
While our host Elliott Kalan is otherwise engaged this week, putting the finishing touches on his 10-part documentary series New Jersey: Jewel Of The Americas, please enjoy another brain-twisting re-release! On this episode of ClueLess, host Elliott Kalan welcomes back his friends, the hilarious Naomi Ekperigin and Andy Beckerman (married comedians and hosts of the podcast Couples Therapy) to flip through the uncanny pages of the Bizarro Movie Guide! A copy of the TV listings has fallen into Elliott’s possession from an alternate universe where things are pretty opposite, can you make heads or tails of the titles in their RomComs section, and translate them back into our world? Keep track of your answers, you’ll need them to solve the MegaClue! And before that: PHOBIAS. Puzzles in this episode are by Jason Reich. Script by Elliott Kalan. Music and sound effects by Devon Torrey Bryant. Buy Elliott’s book Joke Farming: How To Write Comedy And Other Nonsense HERE. Buy Devon’s...
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greetings clueless listeners. While our host Elliott is otherwise engaged this week putting the finishing touches on his 10 part documentary entitled New Jersey Colon Jewel of the Americas, it is I the Bot back To present another repeat performance this week, Elliott is joined once again by hilarious comedians and married couple Naomi Ekparagan and Andy Beckerman, who also host the podcast Couples Therapy. In this episode, it's a trip to the freaky flicks as they have to interpret the titles of movies from a warped alternate universe in our popular game Bizarro Movie Guide. Lights, Camera, Clueless.
Elliot Kaelin
Smart Less. I had to go get a new driver's license the other day because my old one was stolen and they made me give it back to the person I took it from. And the forms that the DMV asked me to describe myself in five words. I put down optimistic, heroic, poetic, artistic and romantic. Then I realized one of those words doesn't belong. Which one is it and why? To find out. Keep listening. This is Clueless.
Podcast Outro Narrator
Clueless.
Elliot Kaelin
Clueless.
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I'm Clueless.
Elliot Kaelin
Welcome to Smartless Presents Clueless, the puzzle podcast that wasn't paying attention and just missed Detect it. Darn. I'm have to turn around. I'm your host, Elliot Kaelin. Don't spend me all in one place. I'm also the author of Joke how to Write Comedy and Other Nonsense, a new book that's on store shelves now. But that's not what I'm here about. I'm here about Smartless Presents Clueless. And I'm here because this week we are joined once again by superstar guests Naomi Ekparigan and Andy Beckerman, the married couple, the comedy superstars whose last names are almost rhyme but don't quite rhyme. Thanks for joining us, Naomi and Andy.
Andy Beckerman
Thanks. Very excited to talk about the power broker.
Elliot Kaelin
Don't get me started. Do not get me started, sir. I will talk about that for hours and hours. As you know Now. Oh, man. Now. You literally mentioned it, and it's like, all I want to talk about now is the Power Broker. For anyone who's interested. I did a whole podcast about the book the Power Broker last year. Look it up. It's in the 99% visible feed. I don't know if I'm allowed to promote other podcasts on this one, but I will promote my book, Joke how to Write Comedy and Other Nonsense. Naomi. Andy, tell me if you've got the guts. What is the answer to today's opening question of this list of words to describe myself? Which one of them does not belong and why? Optimistic, heroic, poetic, artistic, and romantic. There's something about those words that unites four of them and excludes the other. What could it be?
Andy Beckerman
Romantic, Optimistic. I wish I was faster at writing things down, because as you said them, I'm like, you know what? I'll do this with my brain and no other tools. Even though humans are tool users.
Elliot Kaelin
Yeah, right.
Andy Beckerman
Yeah, that's our. That's our chief thing. Using tools, destroying the earth. I guess those are our two things. Those are really the two big things that humans do.
Naomi Ekparigan
Now, you said one of these is not.
Elliot Kaelin
One of these words does not fit with the others. And so, again, those words are optimistic, heroic, poetic, artistic, and romantic. And think about the words themselves, not even necessarily the meanings of the words. Think about the words themselves.
Naomi Ekparigan
Okay, you know, Andy, I got it. Which one? What's coming to you? No, what's coming to you?
Andy Beckerman
Oh, romantic, I think.
Elliot Kaelin
And why is that?
Andy Beckerman
Because the rest of them are all nouns that you add I see to. And there's no such thing as a romantic.
Elliot Kaelin
Exactly correct. You did it. You did it. Through the power of writing things down, you managed to crack the code.
Andy Beckerman
Listeners, listeners, if you have heard the first episode, I wrote nothing down. Not a single word. And I stunk it up. I was a trash pile. All right? I was a sewer. And what happens the minute I write these words down? Oh, my gosh.
Naomi Ekparigan
Fresh.
Andy Beckerman
Watch out, Schrodinger. Watch out, Heisenberg. I'm coming for you. I'm coming for your Nobel Prize. And figure six.
Naomi Ekparigan
Well, Andy, that was good, because. I was going to say optimistic.
Elliot Kaelin
Oh, no, it was. You would have been wrong. But that's okay. Being wrong is just the first step on the road to being right. So beautiful. Somebody put that on a quote thing. Put that on a quote meme. Say Abraham Lincoln or Maya Angelou said it. That's fine. It's okay.
Naomi Ekparigan
Elliot.
Andy Beckerman
Elliot. That was very optimistic of You. We'll be back after this.
Elliot Kaelin
No, no, hold on, hold on. But you're right. Romantic. You can't turn that to Romant. It doesn't work. It just sounds like a Superman villain who is an Italian insect. Romance. And that's not gonna work. Now. I'm not afraid of bugs, although many people are. I'm only afraid of Bugs Bunny because I do not trust a rabbit who carries around that much dynamite. I'm sorry. He's up to something. Today's trivia game is all about fears. Other people's fears of bugs. My fear of Bugs Bunny, fears in general. Naomi, Andy, are you afraid of anything, either of you?
Naomi Ekparigan
Absolutely everything. Quite honestly, everything what it is.
Elliot Kaelin
That's our move through the world.
Andy Beckerman
Yeah. It's our primary mode of being fear.
Elliot Kaelin
Okay, that's good to know. I'm glad you found each other. So you could reinforce each other's fears.
Naomi Ekparigan
Yeah, really healthy.
Elliot Kaelin
Well, I'm going to see if you can define some common fears. This is just straight up trivia. I'm going to name the phobia. You tell me what it's the fear of. We'll start easy. We'll get more difficult. Are you ready or are you too scared?
Andy Beckerman
Well, yeah, we are too scared, but we still move through the world.
Elliot Kaelin
That's. That's the meaning of courage. That's what bravery is. Yeah. All right. Can you tell me what claustrophobia is?
Naomi Ekparigan
Fear of confined spaces.
Elliot Kaelin
You got it. Can you tell me what acrophobia is? Acrophobia.
Andy Beckerman
Fear of open spaces? No, fear of acra. The city in Ghana.
Elliot Kaelin
I'll tell you. Here's my clue. This is a dizzying fear to have ac.
Naomi Ekparigan
Go ahead, then, mister.
Andy Beckerman
Oh, well, no, just acrobat. I'm not exactly sure the. What the. But it's the same. It's the same word as in acrobat. So fear of tightropes. Fear of height, falling off of a.
Naomi Ekparigan
Of a.
Elliot Kaelin
You got it. Fear of heights. I love that. You're like acrobat. What's the thing they do?
Podcast Outro Narrator
Ropes.
Andy Beckerman
They walk.
Elliot Kaelin
But what's the whole challenge of walking on a tightrope? That it's high up in the air.
Andy Beckerman
They walk a tightrope, and then criminals kill their family, and then they become
Elliot Kaelin
Robin and they become Batman's associate.
Naomi Ekparigan
You know, it's so funny. I've never heard acrophobia. I've heard. I know what a fear of heights is, but I've never heard it referred to as acrophobia.
Elliot Kaelin
One of the fun Things about the world is. Everything has a name. And once you learn that name, you're like, I didn't know that I had a name. I know. Can you tell me what aerophobia is? Aerophobia. A E R O Phobia.
Andy Beckerman
Wind.
Elliot Kaelin
Close the closest. In some ways, it's similar to our last fear. Acrophobia.
Andy Beckerman
Fear of wind at. When you're on top of a building and you're worried that the wind is gonna, like, whoosh you off the side.
Elliot Kaelin
Fear of whoosh. That's a very specific fear. Fear of whoosh. Yeah, that would be whooshaphobia, probably. Aerophobia. What's a way that people might find themselves very, very high up in the air?
Andy Beckerman
Fear of plane.
Naomi Ekparigan
Planes. Fear of flying.
Elliot Kaelin
Yes, Fear of flying. Exactly. Fear of flying. What about this?
Naomi Ekparigan
This are supposed to be easy. Oops.
Elliot Kaelin
That. That was the hinge point. That was the hinge from easy to hard.
Andy Beckerman
Hold on. Can I tell you.
Elliot Kaelin
We were.
Andy Beckerman
We were looking for something. This is what. At least what I was doing. I was like, it can't be that easy. Arrow plan. That's a.
Elliot Kaelin
That's what. So that's. You're. You're overthinking yourself.
Naomi Ekparigan
Oh, that's Andy Beckerman in a nutshell.
Elliot Kaelin
Get him out of that nutshell. It's not safe to be in there. Let's move on to the next fear. It is aquinaphobia. Aquinaphobia.
Andy Beckerman
Oh, Fear of Thomas Aquinas.
Naomi Ekparigan
Fear of horses.
Elliot Kaelin
Yes, Fear of horses. Very good. The equine. And finally, this is our last fear. This is a very modern fear. It's nomo phobia. N o M o. Phobia. Nomophobia. This may not be one you've heard of. It was new to me with this game.
Andy Beckerman
No mo Fear of. Fear of phones. Fear of cell phones.
Elliot Kaelin
You're on your way there. It's not that, but it's related to that.
Naomi Ekparigan
Fear of not being afraid anymore. No mo phob. I ain't got no more phobias. I think that's right.
Elliot Kaelin
What a great. I've decided that would be. I'm so afraid I'm gonna lose my fears, and then what. What defines me? Yeah.
Naomi Ekparigan
Who am I? Who am I when I'm not afraid?
Elliot Kaelin
Who am I when I'm not afraid of horses?
Andy Beckerman
Wow. What is this? My. My therapy session.
Elliot Kaelin
So I'm gonna give you one more shot. What is nomophobia? Andy, you were. You were on your track.
Andy Beckerman
Fear of losing your cell phone.
Elliot Kaelin
Yes. It is the fear of being without Your mobile phone. Very rare.
Podcast Outro Narrator
Wow.
Elliot Kaelin
Yeah, so I literally. I think no mo literally means no mobile phone. You know,
Andy Beckerman
every other one of these was taken from the Latin, and then this one is just like some chump over in the Oxford English Dictionary is just like. I don't know. No, I'll just shorten mobile.
Elliot Kaelin
You could see it as the corruption of culture in today's world. Yeah, we're no longer going back to the. To the classical. Not all our buildings have pillars on them anymore. You know, now that we've defined our fears, can you tell me which of these fears doesn't belong with the others and why? Again, those fears were acrophobia, fear of heights, aerophobia, fear of flying, claustrophobia, fear of confined spaces, equinophobia, fear of horses, and nomophobia, fear of being without your mobile phone. Which of those fears doesn't. It doesn't fit with the others.
Andy Beckerman
You know, I'm going to say nomophobia because it's the only one that doesn't come from Latin.
Elliot Kaelin
That's a great guess. That is not the answer that we're looking for. But you know what? That's a. That's an acceptable answer. It's an acceptable answer, but it's not the one we're looking for.
Andy Beckerman
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Elliot Kaelin
Let me reframe it. Let me reframe it. Which of these fears are you unlikely to experience with the others? Let's say that you can explore these fears you could be experiencing at the same time. One of them you wouldn't. Which would be the one?
Naomi Ekparigan
Claustrophobia?
Andy Beckerman
No, equa.
Elliot Kaelin
The.
Andy Beckerman
The horse one.
Elliot Kaelin
And why is that?
Andy Beckerman
Look, unless you're on some, like, weird plane, like the Spruce Goose that can fit horses, when are you gonna. Where are you gonna be with a horse on a plane?
Elliot Kaelin
You're exactly right. You're exactly right. The answer is aquinaphobia. Because you could experience the other phobias on a plane. Fear heights, fear flying, fear confined spaces, fear being at your phone. But unless a fellow passenger has a very loose definition of service animal, you will not be seeing a horse on a plane.
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Elliot Kaelin
Listeners at home, did you soar through those questions? If so, that's great. You've accrued enough frequent gamer miles to trade them in for a second game. And here it is. It's called Bizarro Movie Guide.
Podcast Outro Narrator
Bizarro. Bizarro Movie Guide.
Elliot Kaelin
That laugh at the end really bothers me every time. So, as regular listeners know, I am still on the mailing list for the TV Guide from the Bizarro dimension, where everything is the opposite of our own world. For instance, they still print TV Guide, the opposite of Our own World. I was taking a look through the guide's rom com section. Rom com is of course short for romantic comedy and not romaine computer, which is cutting edge salad technology. Anyway, I was wondering if you can help us figure out the corresponding movie title in our universe to each of the rom coms that they list. So their titles are the opposite of our titles. For example, they've got a listing for something called your Worst Enemy's Divorce. Naomi, Andy. What movie is that? Is that the opposite of what in our world?
Andy Beckerman
Your best friend.
Naomi Ekparigan
My Best Friend's Wedding.
Elliot Kaelin
Exactly. My Best Friend's wedding. So you get it. I'm going to name eight more Bizarro rom coms. You tell me what the opposite movie is that exists in our world.
Andy Beckerman
Bizarro.
Elliot Kaelin
Let's go the first one. Most Despise it cold.
Naomi Ekparigan
Oh, well, you know, I would say some like it hot.
Elliot Kaelin
You got that right. Some like it hot. Number two. Ugly Man.
Andy Beckerman
Pretty Woman.
Elliot Kaelin
Yes. Pretty Woman. You got it. Don't overthink it, Andy. You know these Number three. Hate. Theoretically, Love. Actually, very good. Number four, Hang Around Groom.
Andy Beckerman
Runaway Pride.
Elliot Kaelin
Yes, very good.
Naomi Ekparigan
I did not even remember that movie.
Elliot Kaelin
Okay, this one kind of. Kind of stretching the definition of a rom com kiss. Sober hate.
Naomi Ekparigan
Oh, Punch drunk love.
Elliot Kaelin
Yes. Punch drunk love. Very.
Naomi Ekparigan
Yeah, I wouldn't call that a romcom
Elliot Kaelin
you need to go back.
Naomi Ekparigan
You need to check what's going on in this other dimension.
Elliot Kaelin
The OED says it's a romcom, so we have to, you know. So question number six. Also them.
Naomi Ekparigan
Also them.
Elliot Kaelin
Also them.
Andy Beckerman
They live. Obviously. The best. The best rom com.
Elliot Kaelin
There's a love scene at one point.
Naomi Ekparigan
Wait, no. Also them. Them us. But then also.
Elliot Kaelin
But this is a tough one. Would you like me to give you the answer?
Naomi Ekparigan
Andy, do you have one thought?
Andy Beckerman
I'm just trying to think of, like, the opposite also. What's the opposite of also? That's the what. That's what's like.
Naomi Ekparigan
As good as it gets.
Andy Beckerman
The opposite of two words is four words, five words.
Elliot Kaelin
Once you start going down that road. Yeah, it's like. Well, the opposite of these words would be silence, you know, So I guess it's silence. Directed by Martin Scorsese. So the answer we're looking for is only you instead of also them. Only you. That's a tough one.
Naomi Ekparigan
Okay, okay. Only you.
Andy Beckerman
Wait, what is that? Phil? I've heard of it.
Elliot Kaelin
It's a romantic comedy.
Naomi Ekparigan
You don't know anything about the Rob Cop?
Podcast Outro Narrator
That's Marisa Tomei and Robert Downey Jr. Right. Only you.
Naomi Ekparigan
Okay, Devin, coming through with Marisa tomei, Robert Downey Jr. Rap, you're wel.
Elliot Kaelin
Question number seven. Several awful nights.
Andy Beckerman
One
Naomi Ekparigan
beautiful day. Oh, one fine day.
Elliot Kaelin
One fine day. Very good. I'll give you that one. And finally, question number eight. Unrelated to tomorrow morning. Unrelated to tomorrow morning.
Andy Beckerman
Related to today night.
Naomi Ekparigan
Unrelated.
Elliot Kaelin
You're getting there. You're getting there.
Naomi Ekparigan
Unrelated to Yesterday, Today, Yesterday by Danny Boyle.
Andy Beckerman
What's the opposite of tomorrow? See, this is weird. I would argue that tomorrow doesn't have an opposite necessarily.
Elliot Kaelin
You know what I'm gonna say? You could also say unrelated to first morning.
Andy Beckerman
Last.
Naomi Ekparigan
About last night.
Elliot Kaelin
Yes, about last night. You got it.
Podcast Outro Narrator
Yeah.
Elliot Kaelin
Sometimes it just takes a little thinking of it differently and getting a clue.
Andy Beckerman
Sometimes it just takes the host telling you the answer basically for you to get it.
Elliot Kaelin
That was. You did great. You got seven out of eight. Of course, in every rom com, the stars start out hating each other, but then by the end of the movie, they end up solving a mega clue. Mega clue question. For today's mega clue, I want you to take the first letters of each of the answers you gave me and unscramble them to spell out another romantic comedy. I'm gonna give you those titles again. These are the ones that you. The answers. So you're gonna take the first letters of them. Some like it hot. Pretty woman. Love, actually. Runaway Bride. Punch drunk Love. Only you. One fine day. About last night. So those letters are S, P, L, A, R, P, O, O, A.
Andy Beckerman
By the way, for the first five, I was starting to get sweaty. I was like, is this Welsh? Where is the. Where are the fouls?
Elliot Kaelin
Don't know. We were saving them. Saving them till last. What?
Andy Beckerman
Oh, obviously it's Poor Laps.
Elliot Kaelin
It is the famous romantic comedy, Poor Laps. Yeah.
Andy Beckerman
Oh, wait. Can I tell you what your mistake was?
Elliot Kaelin
What?
Andy Beckerman
To order this in such a way that the word poo is in there. Because that's all my brain is fixating on.
Elliot Kaelin
That's all you trap that we deliberately set for you. Yeah, yeah.
Andy Beckerman
And I walked right into it.
Elliot Kaelin
Well, what Rom com has to work. Poo. And so do you have an answer? Let's see. Do you have an answer?
Naomi Ekparigan
My answer is Splash.
Elliot Kaelin
Okay. Looper and Splash both are incorrect. The answer is proposal. The movie is the proposal.
Naomi Ekparigan
Okay, that is a word with those. Let.
Elliot Kaelin
That's a word with those. You were so close with Prolapse, you almost got there, but you did great in that game. That was fantastic, listeners at home. Did you find love with that game? If not, that's okay. This was the attractive but shallow game that was keeping you from seeing you should be in love with the game you've been best friends with all along. Well, the clock just struck midnight, which means I need to reset the clock to the actual time. Before I do that, I'd like to thank Naomi Ekparigan and Andy Beckerman for showing us how it's done. I don't know what it is, but they sure did it. And they showed us how to do that.
Andy Beckerman
It is a psychic clown that lives in the sewers.
Elliot Kaelin
Oh, okay. That's what it is. Okay. And I'd like to thank you, the audience, for being great listeners. I wish I could bottle how good you are at listening. I call it Listerine. We'll be back next week with more Smart List presents Clueless. Until then, I'm your host, Elliot Kaelin, author of Joke Farming, how to Write Comedy and Other Nonsense on Bookstore shelves now reminding you that if I fail to satisfy, please return the unused portion of me to the manufacturer for a partial refund.
Podcast Outro Narrator
Clueless, you have been listening to Smartless presents Clueless, a Smartless media production in association with Sirius xm. Your host is Elliot Kaelin, who also writes our scripts. Today's contestants were Naomi Ekparigan and Andy Beckerman. Check out their show, Couples Therapy, anywhere you get your podcasts Your producer, editor and engineer is Devon Tory Bryant, who is me. I also write all the music and sound effects. Today's puzzles were by Matt Pack and myself. Talent producer is Anne Harris Associate Producer Maddy McCann Social media producer Tommy Galgano. Executive producers are Elliott Kaelin, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett and Jason Bateman. Executive producers for Smartless Media are Richard Courson and Bernie Kaminski. Remember to follow, subscribe, rate and review the show. It really helps. That's all for now. We will see you again for more.
Elliot Kaelin
Smart bless.
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Guests: Naomi Ekperigin & Andy Beckerman
Host: Elliott Kalan
Original Release Date: April 6, 2026
Episode Length: ~15 minutes (excluding ads)
In this bite-sized, fast-paced episode of ClueLess, writer and comedian Elliott Kalan welcomes hilarious comedians Naomi Ekperigin and Andy Beckerman (the married duo behind the "Couples Therapy" podcast) for a rerun of a fan-favorite installment. Together, they tackle wordplay puzzles about fears (phobias) and dive into a uniquely twisted game: “Bizarro Movie Guide,” where contestants must decode the real-world counterpart of strange, alternate-universe romantic comedy titles.
The mood is playful and clever, filled with pop culture riffs, good-natured teasing, and witty banter.
Segment Start: [02:19]
“Think about the words themselves, not even necessarily the meanings of the words.”
— Elliott Kalan ([04:07])
“Because the rest of them are all nouns that you add ‘-ic’ to. And there’s no such thing as a romantic.”
— Andy Beckerman ([04:32])
"Being wrong is just the first step on the road to being right. So beautiful. Somebody put that on a quote thing."
— Elliott Kalan ([05:14])
Segment Start: [06:15]
Phobias covered:
“Every other one of these was taken from the Latin, and then this one is just like some chump over in the Oxford English Dictionary is just like, ‘I don’t know. No, I’ll just shorten mobile.’”
— Andy Beckerman ([09:47])
“Unless a fellow passenger has a very loose definition of service animal, you will not be seeing a horse on a plane.”
— Elliott Kalan ([11:15])
Segment Start: [13:14]
Elliott presents twisted, “opposite” versions of romcom titles from an imaginary Bizarro universe’s TV Guide. Naomi and Andy’s task: identify the correct movie in our universe.
“That laugh at the end really bothers me every time.”
— Elliott Kalan, on the Bizarro Movie Guide stinger ([13:14])
“Sometimes it just takes a little thinking of it differently and getting a clue.”
— Elliott Kalan ([17:09])
“Sometimes it just takes the host telling you the answer basically for you to get it.”
— Andy Beckerman ([17:14])
Segment Start: [17:20]
“What rom com has the word ‘poo’ in it? … That’s a trap we deliberately set for you.”
— Elliott Kalan ([18:34])
Segment Start: [18:54]
“Being wrong is just the first step on the road to being right. So beautiful. Somebody put that on a quote thing. Put that on a quote meme. Say Abraham Lincoln or Maya Angelou said it. That's fine.” ([05:14])
“[About fears] Absolutely everything. Quite honestly, everything what it is.” ([06:02])
“Watch out, Schrodinger. Watch out, Heisenberg. I’m coming for you. I’m coming for your Nobel Prize.” ([05:03])
“Unless a fellow passenger has a very loose definition of service animal, you will not be seeing a horse on a plane.” ([11:15])
This re-released episode of ClueLess is a breezy, tightly-packed showcase of wordplay, pop culture trivia, and comedic chemistry. Naomi and Andy are game, making it feel like a friendlier, funnier version of a pub quiz, and Elliott’s hosting style provides just enough nudges to keep things moving without giving too much away until the last moment. Fans of playful banter and logic games will find a lot to love.