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Jason Bateman
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Sean Hayes
Do you know that this year this count is. We're coming up on five years.
Jason Bateman
I know. Isn't that amazing? Right? So then how many episodes is that? We've been doing 15 years.
Will Arnett
We're gonna be 250 episodes and I don't know.
Jason Bateman
And 25 is the silver, 50 is the gold. Is there anything for 250? Is that triple silver?
Will Arnett
It's. What is it? What is it? Centennial, wasn't it?
Sean Hayes
Wait, guys, this is the. This is our 250th episode.
Jason Bateman
Also known as Come on.
Sean Hayes
Docento Cinque.
Jason Bateman
Bravo, bravo, bravo.
Sean Hayes
Welcome guys. So nice to be.
Will Arnett
Oh, he came from the back of the theater.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, I came. I finally made it my way to the front. Nice to see you guys. Look at you guys. Anyway. Hey, listen, do you mind if I drop some beats on you? That'd be okay. Let me tell you something about. Just close your eyes. Okay, now imagine. Imagine Italian Riviera, 1982 white Ferrari Mondial, Puff Pu screaming down the autostrada. You have Chenzano with ice. Okay, now you feeling the vibe, huh? Listen, let me ask you something. When you're making a podcast, everybody wants to know, what's that old fashioned recipe? But one thing, one favor. Testa ligera, spitato. What I'm trying to say is. Smales. Huh? Hey, whatever. If you want to do one thing in this year, get smartest.250. Shawnee, how have you been? It's been a minute.
Will Arnett
My nephew and his girlfriend and three friends are visiting in town this weekend, which is super fun.
Jason Bateman
Wait, are we going to see them tonight?
Will Arnett
No, I'm. I know. I think it's too many people. Right?
Sean Hayes
So you're not. You're not going to go?
Jason Bateman
Am I going to see you tonight?
Will Arnett
No.
Jason Bateman
What?
Will Arnett
I know it's going to be bad, but, you know, but I don't get to see my nephew and everybody. For now I feel bad.
Jason Bateman
You saw them last night, right?
Will Arnett
Why don't you come over here afterwards? That'll never happen.
Sean Hayes
Oh yeah, that'll happen. Hey, yeah, Jason, why don't you come over there afterwards, right?
Jason Bateman
Around 8:30 or something, drive across the city and spend another two hours.
Sean Hayes
This will happen. This will happen for sure.
Will Arnett
Yeah, but last night I took him to koi. Right, Last night.
Jason Bateman
Sure you did.
Will Arnett
And I was.
Sean Hayes
Oh yeah, your favorite seafood restaurant.
Will Arnett
It was so good. And I was walking back to the car and there was a pothole that I thought was just like a surface, like puddle. And it was a massive pothole and I completely twisted my ankle. It was so painful.
Jason Bateman
Look at that, Al. Is it all swollen? Yeah. See? Come here, Bobbins.
Will Arnett
Can't see it. It's huge.
Jason Bateman
No, I can see that.
Sean Hayes
You iced it.
Will Arnett
This is going to heal fast, right? Like I freaked out last night?
Sean Hayes
Probably not. It'll probably heal the wrong way and you'll be club. Do you know the term club foot?
Jason Bateman
Dead foot. Well, but fortunately it's not going to take anything away from your life. Usually it means that you can't be playing basketball or doing all the jogging and all that.
Sean Hayes
Luckily you don't do any of it.
Will Arnett
Yeah, this is true.
Sean Hayes
Is that what you're getting at, Jason?
Jason Bateman
Yeah. You'll still be able to shuffle into Chin Chin for lunch and koi for dinner.
Sean Hayes
What if you. What if you. What if you go to the doctor and you're like, will this affect my ability to watch TV all day?
Will Arnett
Well, no, I just prop it up on the couch. That's what I've been doing.
Jason Bateman
Will I still be able to chop celery into my egg salad?
Will Arnett
No, tuna salad.
Sean Hayes
Will I Have to cut. Will I have to cut my sloppy joe intake?
Will Arnett
You know what, though? Here's the deal. They went to the tar pits. You know the La Brea Tar Pits near the museum?
Sean Hayes
They being your nephew?
Will Arnett
My nephew and girlfriend and their friends.
Jason Bateman
Is that still a tourist attraction here?
Will Arnett
It is. They've never been. And they bought crickets. They bought a bag of crickets and they ate them. Sour cream and onion. Crickets. And they pulled them out.
Sean Hayes
What does that have to do with the. Okay, go ahead.
Jason Bateman
Because they're saying the dinosaurs used to eat crickets back in the tar pit days. Why do they sell.
Will Arnett
No, no, no, no. They sell them in the gift shop. They sell them in the gift shop?
Sean Hayes
Why?
Will Arnett
I have no idea.
Jason Bateman
Museum.
Will Arnett
Yes. And they pulled him. You want one? I'm like, I'm not gonna eat a cricket. Oh, God.
Jason Bateman
Why not?
Sean Hayes
Last time I heard crickets was Goodnight, Oscar. It was right after the curtain went down. But that's.
Will Arnett
Look at him. He's on fire day. He's on fuego.
Jason Bateman
Who would do the worst at some sort of, like, outdoor survivor type of show? Where you got.
Will Arnett
I'd lost two seconds. I'd last.
Jason Bateman
No. But I think I wouldn't. I think I might do even worse.
Sean Hayes
Well, you would call your lawyer and say, am I obligated to eat this? Imagine if we took the word obligation out of your vocabulary. You weren't allowed to use obligation.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, I need. I need new shtick. I'm sick of my own fucking voice. I'm gonna be silent today.
Sean Hayes
We love your voice. I miss both of you guys a lot.
Will Arnett
I know I haven't seen you. I'm so bummed. I'm not going tonight.
Sean Hayes
I've been in New York and I've been with lots of friends and lots of people and with. Obviously with Bradley, but I really miss you guys a lot.
Will Arnett
I know. Likewise.
Jason Bateman
I can't do that this morning.
Will Arnett
I'm so jealous I can't see you. Anyway, here we go. Speaking of can't wait to see people. I can't wait for you to see our guest today.
Jason Bateman
Oh, great opening.
Will Arnett
This person is someone we love. Thank you. Thank you. She's someone we all know well. So much so. I'm not sure what I can say about her that won't give it away, but she's a prolific comedian. She's an author, super producer, really great director. She played Dorothy in the wizard of Oz when she was 10. And more recently, I think she played Elphaba in the movie Wicked. I don't Know a Boston? She didn't. A Boston native. Her summer job was working at an ice cream parlor where she'd sing Happy Amy Poe with kazoos. Today, she's a comedic force in Hollywood. Hilarious colleague and the world's favorite cool mom to Regina George is our ridiculously funny friend, Amy Poehler.
Sean Hayes
No way. Wait.
Jason Bateman
Truly, I believe I guess that.
Sean Hayes
Come on.
Amy Poehler
Well, well, well.
Sean Hayes
Wait a second.
Jason Bateman
Holy shit.
Amy Poehler
Well, wait a second.
Sean Hayes
First of all, how many levels am I?
Will Arnett
I know.
Sean Hayes
This is what.
Will Arnett
Of course, my first question is, did you know about this? And of course, no. Okay, good.
Amy Poehler
Not a glimpse of recognition on Will's face when you said all of those things.
Sean Hayes
There's no way that I thought. Well, I knew that you worked at Brigham's, but I didn't. In Boston.
Amy Poehler
Chadwick's. Will. I went to Chadwick.
Sean Hayes
No, sorry.
Amy Poehler
Unbelievable.
Sean Hayes
But we went to Brigham's with your dad and he asked the people if they liked him.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, let him finish, Jamie.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Arnett
I can't believe. Wait, Amy, did you have to. Did you have to because of kids stuff? Did you have to, like, say, oh, I can't, or whatever, or some schedule stuff and lie or something?
Amy Poehler
You know what? It was really easy to hide it. Nobody was asking if I was doing it.
Will Arnett
Okay.
Jason Bateman
Do you think Archie and Abel would have been able to keep the secret? Did you not tell?
Amy Poehler
Well, I think one of them knew. One of them knew. One of them saw Our youngest saw my schedule on the kitchen table and said, you're doing Smartless.
Will Arnett
Oh, wow.
Amy Poehler
Does dad know?
Sean Hayes
No way.
Amy Poehler
No, don't say anything.
Will Arnett
I love it.
Jason Bateman
We all kept the secret.
Will Arnett
It's so cool.
Sean Hayes
No way. And also, Amy and I were texting last night about something else. Zero. That is unbelievable.
Will Arnett
I can't. Amy, I didn't know what to say. I didn't know how to introduce you without them blowing it, so.
Amy Poehler
I'm so honored to be your guest, Shawn, of all three.
Will Arnett
Likewise.
Sean Hayes
First of all, first of all, I've asked her to do it and she said no. And then she said yes to shit.
Amy Poehler
I wanted to wait until you had done 250 episodes to see if this thing was real.
Sean Hayes
Wait, I know.
Will Arnett
We've been trying to get you on for so long, and it's so glad it worked out.
Amy Poehler
I usually give something five years before I try it.
Will Arnett
Sure, sure.
Jason Bateman
Wait, Will, how many times have you asked her to do it?
Sean Hayes
A couple times I asked you to do it on tour, I think, right, Aim?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, I think so. Yeah. But, you know, it just had to I just was waiting. I was waiting for my buddy Sean to give me the go ahead.
Will Arnett
Here I am.
Amy Poehler
Here I am.
Will Arnett
I gave her the green light and she showed up like a race car.
Sean Hayes
Hang on one second. Hang on. Amanda, get over here.
Jason Bateman
What? But wait, Sean, did you think for a second, like, wait, should I. Is this cool? Like, should. Did you ask Bennett or Rob to, like, kind of float it by Will to see if.
Will Arnett
Yeah, No, I mean, Amy's been on my way.
Amy Poehler
What are you guys talking about? Why do you have to float anything past anybod?
Jason Bateman
Well, we kind of do that every once in a while, guys.
Amy Poehler
Nice. By the way. Great. Welcome. Nice to see you all. I mean, Jesus, you're all talking about how weird it is that I'm here. Hi, I'm your guest. Nice to see you. Good Lord.
Sean Hayes
First of all, you can't take over our podcast. You can't.
Amy Poehler
No.
Will Arnett
It's.
Amy Poehler
The only way to talk on this podcast is to completely take it over.
Will Arnett
I believe it. Believe me.
Amy Poehler
It's unbearable if the guest doesn't. Because you make me. You make us sit and listen to you in the beginning anyway, and it's torturous. It's unbelievable.
Jason Bateman
What do you think? What do you think about how every.
Amy Poehler
Single time I hear you guys talk about how much you miss each other? And am I wrong that you talk to each other every week?
Jason Bateman
No, it's.
Will Arnett
We don't get to see each other. We don't get to see each other.
Sean Hayes
First of all, slow down. I'm outraged, like, five outrages ago.
Will Arnett
Okay. This is so great. Wait for Tracy. Just so. Just to really air. Right. For my sister.
Amy Poehler
Of course.
Will Arnett
You guys were married and now you're not. And it's been years and years. Everything's going swimmingly.
Jason Bateman
What a great way to put it.
Sean Hayes
Anyway, let me be the first to say, welcome to Smartlizz.
Amy Poehler
Thank you. Thank you. We're 17 minutes in, but thank you for that.
Will Arnett
Amy.
Amy Poehler
Thanks. And great crickets joke, by the way. Will, that was a really good critics.
Will Arnett
That was a good one.
Sean Hayes
Thank you.
Amy Poehler
Very, very smart. Very smart.
Sean Hayes
Thank you. Jason, are you okay with your mic?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, I'm having a real mic issue this morning. Is it bad for you guys? Is this bad for me?
Will Arnett
No, it sounds great.
Jason Bateman
Okay, good.
Amy Poehler
It sounds fine now.
Jason Bateman
So, Amy, Will, how did you guys first meet? Yeah, we're gonna get into it.
Amy Poehler
No, we're definitely not.
Jason Bateman
First start to fracture.
Amy Poehler
We're definitely not. We're definitely not.
Sean Hayes
Amy, can I tell this story about that you and I were Talking about. About Sedaris the other day.
Amy Poehler
Oh, yeah, that's a good. Yeah, that's a very funny story.
Sean Hayes
And I think I maybe told it.
Amy Poehler
Once before, but you great, great Amy Sedaris.
Sean Hayes
So Amy Sedaris, who's working with us on the film, I was hanging out with her the other day, and she. Years ago. Amy Poehler and Amy Sedaris would often get mixed up for each other. Cause they're both comedians, and they're both sort of blonde and kind of, you.
Will Arnett
Know, cute and funny and talented and charming.
Sean Hayes
So they'd get mixed. And I've been with Polar million times where people, like, people would say to remember him. They go like, I'm such a fan of your brother. And you're like, oh, he's a lawyer. Thank you. He'll really appreciate. So I guess it happened to Sedaris, too. In one time. Like, 20 years ago, I read this article in a magazine where Sedaris says, people come up to me all the time and say, oh, my God, I love you. So great. And I'm such a. You know, I just love you. And Will. And Sedara says in the interview, and I usually say to them, like, yeah, Will and I are having a lot of sexual problems. Which is so funny.
Will Arnett
Yeah, that is really funny.
Sean Hayes
Oh, look at. Bless. He's really having an issue.
Amy Poehler
Bateman's really having. It's so fascinating that he's having microphone.
Jason Bateman
Will, Sean, tell her what it's like when I have technical issues.
Will Arnett
It's not good.
Jason Bateman
I'm gonna slam the laptop in a second.
Sean Hayes
What's wrong? When you close it, we hear amy. We had McConaughey on once, and he was trying to get. And he was in the blind, and Jason was having issues, and it took 20 minutes, and he got so mad, and he was like, fuck. And he started freaking out. And McConaughey starts laughing with his camera covered. And Jason goes, oh, it's really funny. Is it?
Jason Bateman
I said, who's laughing? Who's laughing? That's not helpful.
Sean Hayes
And he slammed his.
Jason Bateman
And I slammed my laptop like a bitch.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Amy Poehler
Wow. It was not all right. All right, all right is what you're saying.
Will Arnett
I was not right.
Sean Hayes
All right. So, Amy, how did you start in comedy?
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
Oh, believe me, we're getting into that. We're getting into that.
Amy Poehler
Oh, Lord. You guys with your questions. They're so good. First of all, your questions are always so good. Right?
Will Arnett
So thought out.
Sean Hayes
We're up. We're up for a. As you would call, we're up for, as you would call it, a Peabody.
Jason Bateman
Hey, wait, Amy. How was. Can we talk about. Can we. How was the. Was SNL50 fun? Because that show was great.
Amy Poehler
It was so fun. It was kind of so great on it. Kind of out of body. Like, it was kind of too. It was. It was almost too big. Like. Like celeb fatigue, almost. Yeah. But it was so fun, and I think it was a big success.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, it was a great show. I started thinking about all the SUVs that must have been choking out Midtown.
Amy Poehler
Like, you want me to give you a. You want me to give you a scoop? You want me to give you a smartless scoop? Like a. Yeah. Making news, breaking news. People had to share dressing rooms, and I shared mine with Meryl Streep. How cool is that?
Will Arnett
Okay.
Jason Bateman
Is she a dirty bathroom girl?
Amy Poehler
Does she fancy?
Jason Bateman
Does she keep the top off the toothpaste?
Amy Poehler
Well, snl, you don't have your own bathroom. You have like a. You know, it is a straight up. Everyone uses, like, a hall bathroom. You don't have your own bathroom and your own dressing room at snl.
Jason Bateman
Do people still smoke back there?
Amy Poehler
No, I don't see anybody smoking. Just maybe vaping. But I. But, but, yeah, but yeah, maybe you could. If you just did it. I bet no one would stop you.
Jason Bateman
Was she a good dressing room partner?
Amy Poehler
The loveliest. We were kind of two ships, but I took a picture of. Of the door because it was nice to have my. My, my.
Jason Bateman
I love that sketch. She did.
Amy Poehler
I know. So funny. Her and Kate. Kate is so.
Jason Bateman
I mean, could she have hiked those jeans up higher? I mean, it was. It was just tough. Just tough.
Amy Poehler
But it was fun. It was so fun. It felt like a high school reunion. Everybody regressed a little bit back into their old roles.
Will Arnett
Isn't that fun?
Amy Poehler
And it was fun. It was. You know, I can't believe I was there, to be very honest. Like, it was.
Jason Bateman
Tina were great in your.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, you and Tina.
Will Arnett
I loved it.
Sean Hayes
You guys. That was a great. That was so good for Tracy.
Will Arnett
Tina Fey. So listen, Amy, when you.
Jason Bateman
I think Tracy's got it, bro.
Sean Hayes
Sean is. You treat Tracy like she's getting dumber.
Will Arnett
I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Sean Hayes
Tell a little bit. Wait, just. Just you guys. And then you and Maya did Bronx Beat, which is an all time fave.
Will Arnett
Hilarious.
Sean Hayes
Can you tell everybody? These guys probably don't know where Bronx Beat came from, the origin story of it, because it's.
Amy Poehler
Oh, yeah, the. The story of that Is there's a amazing hair. The head of the hair department, Jodi Mancuso, is from the Bronx and she has that accent and she would just work with us in the hair and makeup room and we just started talking like her. So there's a real Jody. So when we do the show, we always go into the hair room and just have Jody get you on. Be like our vocal dialect coach. Yeah, get us there.
Jason Bateman
Have you ever thought about bringing her on the sketch?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, but you know, it's funny that we, you know, we brought Donna the dresser on for that moment and those, the crew, like they're so, you know, real professionals, like don't care about being on camera, right?
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah.
Amy Poehler
Like a really actual good professional could give a shit if they're like an. If they're acting.
Sean Hayes
Except for Wally.
Amy Poehler
Wally loves it. Wally does love it.
Sean Hayes
Wally loves it.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, Wally the Cuban, the stage manager.
Amy Poehler
But I said professional. I said professional.
Will Arnett
So. But Amy being back doing that 50, like you said, it's like a reunion. I think I asked you a long, long, long time ago when you departed the show and you decided to leave that. I was like, won't you miss like that?
Sean Hayes
I thought you were kicked off. Sorry, I had a different.
Amy Poehler
I was asked to leave. I was making people uncomfortable.
Jason Bateman
That's why you were given the opportunity to retire.
Amy Poehler
Yes, well, I had a very gentle HR meeting where a man in a suit put me on an elevator severance style. And I don't remember what happened since.
Jason Bateman
Do they have an HR on the show? Cause if so that's gotta be a really high trafficked office.
Amy Poehler
Well, they do, they do have an HR and they do like all of the shows that we've all worked on, you know, I mean, do you remember and do we still have to go through the, you know, all that training every time, which is very good to do every job, but yeah, it is. I believe, I believe that they do that still and should. It's probably a very different environment than I was there 20 plus years ago for all of us.
Will Arnett
But when you like, you're one of the all time greats to ever be on snl. And it's true, it's true. I mean, everybody's great. But there's breakouts and we all know who the breakout.
Amy Poehler
Oh, somebody.
Jason Bateman
What about the after party? Was there a good. There must have been a very robust after party for this one.
Amy Poehler
Robust after party at the Plaza Hotel.
Jason Bateman
Whoa. Was there an after after with the little.
Amy Poehler
There may have been. I didn't, I didn't hang that long. I, I, you know, I, I love bedtime.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I, I used to be a vampire and now I love bedtime. I think about bedtime all day.
Will Arnett
Yes.
Jason Bateman
Do they still do the little, like the little sort of the size of like a, a, a, a fortune and a cookie hand? A little address for after. Is that still something that's done?
Amy Poehler
I feel like one of the things that was different is things are texted and emailed, and I didn't have any of that when I was there. Wildly. We didn't even have phones that we carried around on the floor. I mean, maybe we did occasionally, but we would kind of leave them in the dressing room. But now everything is texted, so I imagine maybe it's a text now. Maybe it's a Snapchat or some kind of YouTube channel people subscribe to. Maybe it's probably a podcast that tells you where the.
Jason Bateman
Speaking of pods, you've got a new pod on Amy.
Amy Poehler
Oh, my God. Thank you so much for that. Yes.
Jason Bateman
Tell us about your new pod.
Sean Hayes
Oh, that's why she's here.
Amy Poehler
Yes, that's right.
Jason Bateman
What's it called and where can we find it?
Will Arnett
Good Hang with Amy Poehler.
Amy Poehler
It's called Good Hang and it's on Spotify.
Sean Hayes
Yes.
Will Arnett
Can't wait.
Amy Poehler
And I'm very excited. It's been really fun. We've been recording and getting ready for our launch. I don't know when this show is gonna come on, when this one drops. How far ahead are you guys?
Sean Hayes
July 2026.
Amy Poehler
Okay, July 2026. So it's been going for about a year and it's been good.
Will Arnett
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Jason Bateman
And now back to the show.
Will Arnett
But wait. But Amy, I was gonna ask you if you ever wanted to do sketch comedy again because going back to what I was saying before, you're one of the all time greats and it's hard to find people that can do what you do and Kristen Wiig does and Maya and Tina and all these, you know, really breakout people can do. And so, but every time I see her do it, I'm like, ooh, I just wish you would go like do.
Amy Poehler
More sketch comedy because how like, what do you mean? Like do a sketch show. That's a lot of work.
Will Arnett
I know, but so you're like, ooh, nap time, bedtime.
Amy Poehler
It just feels like. I know what you mean, Sean. I love doing it. I just don't know if I could get launch back into an actual full time sketch show. It's so much work and creating the material, generating material is so time consuming. But I love it.
Will Arnett
As a fan, I think I speak for a lot of people. Like, oh, when can we see you and everybody together?
Sean Hayes
Like, oh well, we're not really taking questions from fans right now, but.
Amy Poehler
Hey.
Sean Hayes
Amy, do you don't still do. You don't really still do like ASCAT or There's no version of that anymore, no improv.
Amy Poehler
But you know, Tina and I have been on tour. We've been. Oh yeah, we've done our show a bunch of cities last year. We're going back out again in March, April and May for, you know, if.
Sean Hayes
You'Re in Orlando, do you have some dates you want to talk about?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, we have Orlando, we have Detroit, we have Chicago, Boston. Playing Red Rocks.
Sean Hayes
Wow. No shit. Red Rocks.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, that's cool.
Jason Bateman
Is it written or is it improvised?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, so it's, it's written. It's like a long variety show. We have special guests come in and we do, we kind of go through the history of our 30 year friendship. But there's a section in it that, where we talk about Chicago and how we met and so we improvise there, which is really fun.
Will Arnett
Yes, I wanna talk about that. Cause I did Second City too. And you did too. Yeah, and I never performed on the main stage, but you same. Oh, wow. So people think you're probably from Chicago all the time, but you're from Boston.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, people think I'm from the Midwest. A lot. Because also with Parks and Rec, their head goes to Indiana. So they think I'm like a Chicago.
Sean Hayes
Would you consider yourself like a Boston homegirl?
Amy Poehler
I mean, I'm definitely a homie.
Jason Bateman
How was Bill? Tell us how Bill Pola is.
Sean Hayes
Let's talk about Bill. Can we talk about Bill for a minute?
Amy Poehler
Oh, God, he'd love it.
Sean Hayes
So this is.
Amy Poehler
He'd like us to talk for an hour.
Sean Hayes
This is. He would. So this is the reason I got Chad Wicks and Brigham mixed up. I just want to tell this story if I could. We can always cut it aim, by the way, which is.
Jason Bateman
We don't cut anything on this.
Sean Hayes
We went to.
Amy Poehler
Well, I can tell there's no editing.
Jason Bateman
This is super baggy.
Sean Hayes
We go to Brigham's, which is an ice cream store in the mall in Burlington, Mass. Which is where Amy's from. With her mom and dad. Well, with her dad. And there's this girl. She's like, I don't know, 17, working there as, like, her afternoon weekend job scooping ice cream. This is when Amy's first on SNL and her dad goes, like, you know, 25 years and goes. Goes to the girl who's kind of silent, and he goes, you like your job? And she goes. She's like, scooping ice cream. She's like, yeah, I guess so. And he goes, you know who really likes her job? My daughter.
Jason Bateman
Teed himself up, huh?
Sean Hayes
It was so good. That's great.
Amy Poehler
But he's so proud.
Will Arnett
He's proud of me.
Amy Poehler
He will get on the elevator with people and he'll say, do you like TV and movies? That's his question. Like, has anyone seen that?
Jason Bateman
And you're on the elevator with him.
Sean Hayes
We played golf. We played golf with these guys years ago, and Bill and I were playing with some random dudes. And he gets back in the car and he looks at me and he goes, well, I told him. He can't help it. He's so proud, though, in the best way. Both her parents.
Amy Poehler
My parents are like, Boston strong. Very proud. They retired teachers. Yeah. They watched every snl. They came to every early improv show I ever did live. They had a big watch party for me when our show launched in 1998 on Comedy Central. UCD. They just are very, very big fans. And they.
Sean Hayes
They are. They're the definition of supportive parents. I'll give you what you do.
Jason Bateman
Were they the ones that were. That were the first funnies in your family for you? Like, is that where you got your humor from?
Amy Poehler
I think, like, well, I Throw this back out to you guys. Cause I think that you have probably have families like this too. You know, you have to kind of keep up. Like, for me, teasing is a love language. If I like you, I can tease you. And manners are kind of for people you don't know or you don't like, right?
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
So, like, the idea that you could bust each other was a way in which to sharpen your skills. And so we would tease each other. There was a lot of laughs at the table. Like, it's very, like, Boston Irish. And some families, I learned as I went to college are not that, which is always so shocking to me when families are. Families don't get to poke each other. It's like, oh, okay. This is a different set of rules.
Sean Hayes
You would often accuse. Well, first of all, I would say, when you say sitting around the table, let's be honest, it's sitting around the kitchen.
Amy Poehler
Well, let's be honest, it's sitting around the tv.
Sean Hayes
It's sitting around the tv.
Amy Poehler
It was sitting around the tv.
Sean Hayes
But also, you would accuse me of playing too hard. That Jason and I would play too hard.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Well, you guys. You guys, it was deep love.
Jason Bateman
The love was too deep.
Amy Poehler
You know how they call things a love tap. You guys are a love shove.
Jason Bateman
That's what you guys.
Amy Poehler
You love shove.
Sean Hayes
I love it. I like that.
Jason Bateman
It's good.
Amy Poehler
But so it depends on the mood, you know, But.
Sean Hayes
But I agree with you. Like, people, like, you can meet people, and there is that thing of, like, if I'm not teasing you, we talk.
Will Arnett
About it all the time.
Sean Hayes
I'm not interested in you, then I'm not really interested, in a way.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. I mean, but some people have a higher and lower tolerance. Like, you know, you have to just be a little gentle.
Will Arnett
But as far as your. I read too, Amy, that you say that you were parentified at a young age, meaning that, like, you became your parents. Cause your parents are so young when they had you as a child.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, my parents were young. And don't you feel that way? Like, I don't know. I don't know. But don't you feel. And this might be just our generation, too, just feel like we felt very old really fast. Like, we felt we had freedom, which gave us a sense of agency. And then we had jobs really early, and it just felt like we grew up fast. I don't know if that's a generational thing, but.
Sean Hayes
Well, Jason. The thing about it, Jason, I'm not joking. Was out working when he was sweet little JB was working when he was 7.
Amy Poehler
So cute. Like, with a little briefcase and security.
Jason Bateman
Number and a small mustache.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Will Arnett
So you guys. So you both what I'm interested in. And Amy, your background and your parents being schoolteachers and learning kind of from that. Like, what did you take from them for Archie and Abel and Will? What did you take from your parents for Archie and Abel? And how do you do that together?
Jason Bateman
Let me try to bundle that for you. Amy, do you parent like your parents at all?
Sean Hayes
Oh, by the way, look at you.
Jason Bateman
Oh, yeah, no, I've been working on it. I've been working with a tutor.
Amy Poehler
And you've been working on bundling.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, Bundling is sort of a gathering term that he suggested I use internally, but now I'm spreading it.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
That actually you could sell a whole bunch of, like, a series of tapes talking about bundling other people's questions. Let me bundle that for you. You could be so success talking about bundling, if you jumped on a mini trampoline and did a cold dip at the same time, you'd be a bundle, bundle king. I think parenting is a constant, ever changing thing, Right. It's like somebody said this to me once that I always loved, which was, parenting is like a series of short stories. So a short story starts and you think, I don't know how this story is gonna go. I don't know the characters. I don't even know what's gonna happen. And then you're in the middle of the short story and you think, man, I never want this to end. I love this. I love this. I got it. I'm in the groove. I know what I'm doing. And then the short story's over, and you think, oh, no, there's no way the next one could be better. It's just like a series of. Your kid is changing so much, and the world is changing so much, and you have to stay kind of flexible, pliable, learn from your mistakes.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
I think the difference for me is from my own parents is I have to try really hard. Amy, you're really good at this, and you help me do this in concert with you to try to be. To remember to listen to what they're saying and to not try to impose what I think they. You know, you need this, you need that. But to actually sit and listen to what your kid is trying to say, like, you know what I mean? Encourage them to as much as they can, to speak and to really hear, and it's not. I don't combine it naturally. Because that's not how I was raised. Do you know what I mean?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, I'm the same. It doesn't always feel natural. Your instinct is to want to give them advice or tell them what to be aware of or afraid of or share your own personal stuff. That's so instinctual, of course, because we want the best for our kids. And I remember reading somewhere that when your kid tells you something, you just repeat it back to them like you're doing a headline of a news story. It actually works really well with people, too. I believe it happens on this podcast, too. They say, oh, I had a bad. I had a bad day in math. And then you go, you had a bad day in math. That's all you say, period.
Sean Hayes
The end. I mean, I'm usually thinking about what the bit is like, you know what I mean? But no, but you're right. You're right. And the other day, again, we were talking about something with one of our kids, and I said, amy and I were talking on the phone and I said, oh, I identify with that. And I think that my own experience. And you said to me, you're like, they don't really want to hear about your experience.
Jason Bateman
They want you to listen to theirs.
Will Arnett
Yeah, yeah.
Amy Poehler
And we all. This happened. Don't you feel like this happens as adults, too, when someone talks about, like, well, when I used to, you're just like, oh, yeah. You know, even in your 50s, it still happens where someone talks about, well, I. You know, in the business I used to be in, we would be able. And you're like, oh, that's not the way it is anymore, old man.
Will Arnett
Right, right, right.
Amy Poehler
It's not that you don't understand, like.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, Jason, you must get old man a lot, right?
Jason Bateman
A lot more recently. It's pretty shocked. Shocking. Yeah. I find that I'm constantly battling, like, how much should I be, like, leading this parenting thing or how much should I be reacting to this parenting thing? In other words, should I be waiting to see what they need me to parent them at, or should I initiate sort of parenting based on nothing they're actually showing me? In other words, should I wait to see until how they react to a certain situation and then. And talk to them about that?
Sean Hayes
Or. This could use a bundle.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, yeah, we could bundle this.
Jason Bateman
Are we still rolling?
Amy Poehler
Can we go back to what you're trying to say? Yes, Amy, tell Amy, let's bundle. Let's bundle.
Sean Hayes
Wait, Amy, try to guess what he's trying to say.
Amy Poehler
I think the bundle here is, how can I be best of service to my kids.
Jason Bateman
Yes. Thanks.
Will Arnett
That's great.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
When they're teens. Yeah. That's the bundle.
Will Arnett
That's the bundle.
Amy Poehler
You know, I read something, and by read something, I mean I saw it on TikTok. Supposedly, when your kids become teens, you go from producer to consultant. That's the difference. You're no longer producing their lives. You're there for them to consult.
Will Arnett
Yeah. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
So you have to, like, kind of. You have to kind of let them start producing their own lives, which is not easy.
Jason Bateman
Perfect use of the bundling concept.
Will Arnett
Yes.
Jason Bateman
Right.
Will Arnett
And I've also heard that, you know, part of, like, I've heard you love therapy as much as I love therapy. I can talk about it all day long. I love it. I love going to therapy. And.
Sean Hayes
Because you go to therapy.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Are you scared?
Will Arnett
And I'm always trying to make her laugh, and she's like, hey, let's get back on topic. But she's so lucky to have you.
Amy Poehler
You're so funny, Sean.
Will Arnett
Yo. Thanks, Amy.
Amy Poehler
You're the funniest.
Will Arnett
You're the funniest. No, you're not the funniest. And so. But I've heard, which means, I saw on TikTok, that you identify as someone who's a natural, like, fixer, or you want to get into action and problem solve. Because that's kind of how I am a little bit. But as you've gotten older, that you've taught yourself how to pause and feel feelings and stuff. That and how.
Sean Hayes
Got a lot of quote. You got a lot of quotes out there.
Will Arnett
I do my research. I do my research.
Sean Hayes
Talking out. Out loud. You're really living out loud about.
Amy Poehler
I sent Sean a bunch of needlepoint pillows with a bunch of stuff on it and took credit for it. He's got filled with pillows.
Will Arnett
I just regurgitate a Hulk conversation you had on your phone that I overheard. No, that. How has that, like, shaped you today? Because it also read that you. The best work that you've ever done is the work where you feel most present.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. I think improv was really helpful with that. Like, you had to stay super present just to be. I mean, I imagine you guys feel that with this podcast too, right? Like, you're actually where you are as opposed to being ahead or behind, which is really hard. Yeah. I'm still searching for that still. Every day, trying to stay in the present moment. It's not easy for me, like, to not, you know, jump ahead.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Will you talk to me about that? Because I. I've always been told that, like, it's best to just stay in the present. But, like, my brain tells me.
Amy Poehler
I know. You go in there and your brain is like.
Jason Bateman
Like, I got plans, you know? And like, yeah, I've got plans. I've got. I've got a desire for the way I want this meeting to go or.
Amy Poehler
This week's go or something like, with that, too. I know.
Sean Hayes
Oh, jb, that's so sweet. It's true. You do. You do go in with that.
Jason Bateman
Like, what are you. But what are you supposed to do with that? Wait, what is that? Is that me inhaling a bong head?
Amy Poehler
It's not really inside your brain.
Will Arnett
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. It's just.
Amy Poehler
And then. And then a little plan. Plan flies by like. Like a bird. Like, yeah, a little plan.
Jason Bateman
So am I just supposed to react to things and not drive anything?
Amy Poehler
I don't know. It's a great question, actually. I don't know, because I'm struggling with that all the time. How much can I be prepared? Because that calms me down. Preparation calms me down. But life, you cannot control. You cannot control things in life. I mean, it's just like, you have to let go.
Will Arnett
You know what's a perfect example of that, JB Today, when I just told you I sprained my foot really bad last night. It was so painful, I can't even describe it. And I woke, and my old me would have been like, oh, my God, I gotta cancel this. I can't do this. I gotta. And I'm like, this is what it is right now. And I surrender to it. And I go, if I can't do this and I have to cancel that and I can't show up for, then that's what it is.
Sean Hayes
I think.
Will Arnett
And I used to. It used to make me really depressed.
Sean Hayes
I think there is. That is one of the benefits I've been saying recently. I've been saying in therapy that. No, no applause. I've been saying that.
Amy Poehler
Oh, wait, Will, you're going, that's great. And you're. And you are 50.
Sean Hayes
54.
Amy Poehler
Okay, very good.
Sean Hayes
And what I've noticed at 54 is. And especially in the last six months, that I'm. It just kind of occurred to me. I'm like, oh, I'm doing a much better job of this is what the situation is. And I'm realizing it in real time. And I'm not really in a panic about the outcome. I'm just accepting it for what it is. And I said this to you the other day, like, I got this notion of, like. Like, feelings are gonna come. Feelings aren't gonna kill you. Your feelings aren't gonna kill you. That's a big one. And it really. And I went, oh, yeah. And I can let it. I can let it. I can feel it. And then I can let it go, and I can recognize. I think I used to. You know, you'd freak out, and then you'd think about it later. Now I can, in real time, go, oh, this is where I am in a much better way than I. For me, anyway, that I've ever been able to do. And I think that that's the benefit of being older, having experience, et cetera.
Amy Poehler
I find my 50s to be my favorite decade by far.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, by far.
Will Arnett
Oh, really?
Sean Hayes
Yes.
Jason Bateman
Wait till you get to your 60s. It's pretty cool. I'm having a great time.
Sean Hayes
No.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
What if you guys find out you see Jason's license one of these days and you find out he's 62.
Jason Bateman
I thought about that the other day. No, Willie, I like what you said about, like, not being attached to the outcome. Maybe that's a good hack for me. It's like, it's okay to be prepared, but don't be. Be, like, stuck on. It has to end this way again.
Sean Hayes
It's. It's a new concept for me. I've just been kind of going through it, and it's. And it's very freeing.
Amy Poehler
Like, Jason, for example, your mic hasn't been working this whole time and recorded, and you should be fine with that. Like, just let that go. It's gonna be great. It's a great episode. And just let. Let go of the outcome of that.
Sean Hayes
Amy, any funny stuff happen on stage before with people? Any funny stories?
Will Arnett
No. Come on. Wait, Amy, Why? Why. Why is 50 the best decade?
Amy Poehler
I feel like I finally have a better sense of who I am. Kind of what we've been talking about. I have. Some of my priorities are. You know, like, I just feel like there's a. I'm a little kinder to myself. I definitely care less about how I'm perceived by other people, as long as I feel like my side of the street is clean.
Will Arnett
Yeah. Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Nice.
Amy Poehler
And. And I have a lot of wise people younger and older than me. Like, I'm in this sandwich of experience. So I learn a lot from people who are younger than me, and I learn a lot from people that are older than me, and knock on wood, I still feel healthy. Like, being in your 50s, you're like, the Youngest old person. You know, you're the youngest of the old people.
Will Arnett
That's right.
Amy Poehler
You're the freshman of old people.
Will Arnett
That's really true.
Amy Poehler
And so we'll never be this young again again, right? In our 50s. Because, you know, I'm looking to people in their 60s and 70s to seeing, like, how they're living life, how they're doing it, how they're keeping healthy. And then I still feel connected to people in their 20s and 30s. Like, it doesn't feel so far away.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I'm. I'm on medication to reverse the aging process.
Jason Bateman
Ooh.
Amy Poehler
What are you doing?
Will Arnett
I'll text you. I'll send it in the chat. I'll send it in the chat.
Amy Poehler
You're that guy who does all those crazy things to, like, stay and super.
Will Arnett
Oh, that. God, Remember? Did you watch that? Oh, my God. That's wild. Wait, Amy, remember. Remember when you used to come over and we would watch Intervention?
Amy Poehler
Oh, my God.
Will Arnett
We would airplay. We would airplay all the instruments in the opening theme.
Amy Poehler
Great theme. Intervention. What a great theme.
Jason Bateman
I know.
Amy Poehler
That show made me so uneasy. I wanted to tell the story. Or for you to tell the story about. Remember the time that you told your friend that the TV was voice activated?
Sean Hayes
Oh, my goodness.
Will Arnett
Yeah. It's such an.
Amy Poehler
Have you told that story yet?
Will Arnett
I don't remember.
Amy Poehler
Oh, God. Can I try to tell it? Yeah, it was. Sean was with a bunch of friends, right? Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Sean.
Will Arnett
No, no, I was just gonna help.
Amy Poehler
You out, and you guys were really.
Will Arnett
We would get stoned after an episode, after taping an episode of Will and Grace. And we would go. We went back to his house one night.
Sean Hayes
Will and Grace. That's the show you were on?
Amy Poehler
That's it.
Will Arnett
Never got there. That is Amy.
Amy Poehler
I couldn't think of it.
Will Arnett
Yeah, Amy. Never gonna get through it.
Jason Bateman
This guy.
Will Arnett
A story that long will never make it on here.
Sean Hayes
Go ahead. No, no, go ahead. Don't tell it. It's good. It's really good.
Jason Bateman
Just bundle it.
Amy Poehler
All right, well, bundle it. Bundle it.
Will Arnett
I'll try to bundle it. Okay, here we go. So we would go back after his. We would get stoned, and we'd just hang out and talk about the night and whatever. After we tape an episode of Will and Grace. So we go to his house. It was a brand new house, and he has a brand new house, and he has a brand new media system. This massive screen in the screening room, and I'm high out of my mind. I can't even see straight. And he's trying. He goes, I just got the DVD of Castaway. We should watch it where the plane goes down. Cause the effects are so cool, right? I'm like, yeah, let's put it on and watch it. So he walks all the way to the front of the screening room, and I'm way in the back, and I start to giggle. He's like, what's so funny? I'm like, nothing. And he can't get it to play. And I go, is that a Sony? And he goes, yeah. And I go, well, those are the new ones. You don't even know what you have. You're so rich, right? They're voice activated. And he goes, what? And I go, those are voice activated new screens. Like, you have to speak the name of the movie into the DVD player. And he goes, you're making that up. That's not even true. I go, those are the new screens. You have to speak the name of the movie. And he totally bought it. And he goes really close into the DVD player and he goes, goes, cast away. And he looks at the screen and it didn't come up. And the second time, cast away. And I couldn't.
Amy Poehler
Walker. We and Meredith Walker say cast away into our remote control. A lot. A lot. And into our dvd.
Will Arnett
Cast away.
Amy Poehler
Cast away.
Sean Hayes
Oh, Meredith. Let's say hi to Meredith.
Will Arnett
Hi, D. Hi, Meredith. Are you guys still working together? It's a friend of all of ours, Meredith.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Jason Bateman
Is she still in Austin?
Amy Poehler
Yep. Living in Austin.
Will Arnett
She's so great. I love.
Sean Hayes
We love Meredith. We. We love, love, love.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, we say cast away quite a bit.
Sean Hayes
Oh, that's great.
Amy Poehler
I love telling someone something is voice activated when it isn't. I don't like a prank. I'm not a prank person at all.
Will Arnett
For anybody to use.
Amy Poehler
That is a harmless, funny prank. That is harmless.
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Jason Bateman
All right, back to the show.
Will Arnett
Okay, so wait, do you have any.
Jason Bateman
Questions for Amy, your guest?
Amy Poehler
That's okay.
Jason Bateman
I mean, we don't know this is minute 46. I don't think we've had a legit one yet.
Will Arnett
I know I've asked her a couple ones.
Jason Bateman
Really?
Will Arnett
Yeah, yeah.
Amy Poehler
I mean, do we really need to. I mean.
Jason Bateman
No, it's a conversation.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, it's a conversation.
Sean Hayes
Wait, wait, I do want to get into. You touched on it before. Talk a little bit about when you were in Chicago, AIM and how you knew your second Second City. Who was in that when you were on the tour, toured with Second City and improv, Improv, Olympics, Chicago, all that stuff. And then how you, how that moved to New York and UCB and all that stuff. Just bundle it.
Amy Poehler
Well, I mean, it is. I'll bundle it because it is important as a storyteller to discuss my craft.
Sean Hayes
You will get kicked off this podcast if you land your life.
Amy Poehler
I love telling a story and I love crafting story and I love my story craft to be about telling craft.
Sean Hayes
So the only thing we like on this podcast more than independent film is talking about independent film. Go ahead.
Will Arnett
Amy.
Amy Poehler
Started out in Chicago and arrived at Second City in 93. And the seniors to my freshmen were on the main stage of Chicago. Amy Sedaris, Steve Carell, Stephen Colbert, Amazing Mike Myers and Chris Farley had just left to go to like stardom at snl. I rented Chris Farley's old apartment in Chicago. In Chicago. I didn't know I was renting it, but you know, in the Hancock building. No, it was another earlier one. Yeah. You know, back then in the 20s when we were in our 20s and we moved every year. Like, remember moving every year. Yeah, yeah.
Will Arnett
Ye. Yes, that's true.
Amy Poehler
And I think the apartment was probably like 390amonth.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And hard to make that rent yeah, yeah. And then. Yeah. Studied and met Tina there very early on, and met Rachel Dratch, who I was the understudy for at Second City. And it was just. The place was lousy with talent. Everyone was so great. And then moved with. And then ucb. Matt Besser, Matt Walsh, Ian Roberts, Ali Farenaki.
Will Arnett
Oh, great, guys. Yes, yes, yes.
Amy Poehler
Adam McKay, all those. Neil Flynn. They were all part of a big improv group called the Family that we would go and watch. And they were incredible. And then they also had UCB. I joined in 93 and then in 96, which is not that much time now that I think about it. It was only three years, but we left and moved to New York, drove to the city, did a show and just started. Well, at the time it was. And Will, I don't want this to be uncomfortable for you, but I was dating Matt Besser at the time, so it was a date.
Sean Hayes
I knew it. I fucking knew it. No, no, truly, I knew it. But here's the thing. Here's a funny story. And Amy knows this, so 96. And she knows how good I am with dates and this.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, you're very good.
Sean Hayes
96. They come and they do UCB. So it's Amy, Walsh, Besser and Ian, and they do their show, Bucket of Truth, which was an amazing show. It was so funny. It was a sketch show, the improv and sk, et cetera. And they're doing it downstairs at the West bank on 42nd Street. And Peter Principado, the beloved Peter Principado, who we all love.
Amy Poehler
My first agent, first agent, William Morris and Peter Principato.
Sean Hayes
And he was my agent at the time. And he said to me, hey, I've just signed this new comedy group. You've gotta go see them. They're performing at the West Bank. So I went with Duff and Amy. I was dating Missy at the time. I don't know if I told.
Jason Bateman
Touche.
Sean Hayes
So I go. So we go, the three of us, to the west bank, knowing nothing, go downstairs that little stage and watch them do Bucket of Truth, and we're blown away. We go.
Jason Bateman
You had not yet met.
Sean Hayes
Amy had not yet met. We watch the show, we're blown away. We go for a drink after, we're talking about it. We talked about it for a few days. Cause nobody was doing what they were doing. And we were like, God, that was so funny. And it was so inventive and it was so cool and blah, blah, blah. So that is January of 1996. And just like, what the fuck? Continue. Sorry, Am.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, then we were there just slogging away and like Will said. And we remember this too, right? Like people had to come see you live. They had to go actually see you. We didn't have any, like, now you can really deep dive on someone really fast on the Internet. But we didn't have that, so you had to like go see people live.
Sean Hayes
What was that first space you guys had when you started?
Amy Poehler
We had a solo. Arts was the name of a. Yeah, was like the walk where we would improvise there and stuff. So we just kind of, you know, slogged for a while in New York and handed out flyers in Washington Square park and everyone. I was a waitress and just thinking like, okay, you know. And then I started getting some bits on Conan because of Andy Richter. And that's where I got like my SAG card. That's where I got my. You know, I got paid like an under five.
Jason Bateman
And now you're in the building though, right? Like, was it. Could you like taste the possibility of SNL perhaps? Did you allow yourself to start to dream that.
Amy Poehler
That's such a good question. I think you're right. I didn't really put that together, but you're right. Like walking in a 30 rock. You are. I always feel like with jobs and stuff, like Chicago felt like where I was getting my training, but New York and Los Angeles, it's almost like, you know when you're having like a pickup game of basketball and someone's just standing around and you're like, hey, come play. Like, don't say sure. Your proximity to the game can be very helpful. Like getting closer to the game, just being around. So that's what happened when we moved to New York. We were just little closer to the game. So we got asked to do things.
Sean Hayes
And you're doing, and you're doing bits on Conan and you did Andy's sister, Richter's sister, and you started doing more and, and all those guys were there who were writers, a lot of whom were performers from Chicago. You knew like McCann and, and Glazer and all those guys. Brian Stack, one of the all time greats. And like, and all those people, they're all there writing on Conan and you guys are all kind of part of this group of people who are creating comedy, right?
Amy Poehler
Yeah. My decision to move to Chicago was probably the best decision for me in my career because it allowed me to meet all these people really fast who then went on to do things that I got to be a part of. Like they remembered Me for things. They put me in small things. They wrote things for me. And it was just this concentrated feeling of comedy at the time that then Everybody went to LA and New York and you know, and McKay was the head writer of SNL and then Tina got a job there.
Will Arnett
That's amazing.
Amy Poehler
We all just started. It was really, really cool to. And I depended on the kindness of a lot of those people for a long time to have a job.
Jason Bateman
Let me ask you like a tough question that I'll try to bundle here. It's basically after all of the accomplishment you've just walked us through, the whole beginning and everything, it just seems like you've done or maybe even far exceeded what you allowed yourself to dream of at that age. When you were starting. What's left? What would you love to do in your next.
Sean Hayes
Why do you still get out of bed, Amy?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, I mean, there's like, you've just, you've, you've done it. You've like, you've had like this incredible career already and you're still, as you said, a freshman. Like, where would you love. How would you like to use what you've done? The success you've done? Bad bundle? Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Amy Poehler
Well, I am. That's why I'm starting to wind down. And this podcast is the beginning of that. Like I'm just starting to wind down. Away from showbiz.
Will Arnett
Truly just cooler number two.
Sean Hayes
We're the number two most downloaded podcast on the planet. So just.
Jason Bateman
No, no, her podcast, she's talking about.
Sean Hayes
Oh yeah, that is a wind down. You're right, that is the one.
Jason Bateman
No. Or are you talking about us?
Amy Poehler
Well, you know what? It remains to be seen. It remains to be seen. No, but honestly, it is kind of why I'm excited to do a podcast. Because I'm actually. Jason, to genuinely answer your question, I am excited about what is the next. I like thinking about what is the next thing to do. I like trying new things. That's what keeps me feeling engaged in the world and in our creative. So I'm very excited about this new podcast. Cause I really like. I'm a huge fan of podcasts in general.
Will Arnett
Yes, I saw that.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, I listen to them all the time and they're really replaced a lot of like media for me and I'm into the idea of exploring it. Cause I really like talking to people and I'm curious about people and I learn a lot about myself and I like to have fun. Like I think what's happened in the space, especially for women is that women are being asked to be like, teachers and wise leaders and like a lot of. And they don't get to fuck around and, like, do very little research. Like, you guys, you know, like.
Will Arnett
You.
Amy Poehler
Guys do not know who the guest is, which is the wildest con in the world.
Will Arnett
It's unbelievable.
Sean Hayes
By the way. You could have bundled that insult if. That would have been a lot nicer. But let me ask you a tough question. Shut up. Amy. Amy, answer this question honestly. This is a. This is a tough one. This is a hard hitting. All right.
Jason Bateman
All right.
Sean Hayes
And I know you're very serious for a comedian, so that's okay. Her mom used to say that to her when they get into argument.
Amy Poehler
When we get into a fight, she say, he's so serious for comedian.
Sean Hayes
So wait, have you ever listened to Smartless?
Amy Poehler
Of course I have.
Sean Hayes
Okay, you have.
Jason Bateman
That's a little high.
Amy Poehler
I've listened to smart.
Sean Hayes
I did go up on that pretty high.
Amy Poehler
My favorite episode is the one with the lady and the other one with the guy. I love the one with the guy.
Sean Hayes
Oh, my God.
Amy Poehler
Oh, I like the one with Bradley.
Jason Bateman
But so, but in your answer to my unbundled question, extremely sort of gets into the area of there is a slight plan, but you still want to kind of stay in the present and not be too sort of strategic about what the next five, ten years are.
Will Arnett
Right.
Jason Bateman
So, like, how do you find the balance there?
Amy Poehler
I guess it's just figuring out. It's just kind of figuring out what is feels challenging. I like a challenge, so I like mixing things up to feel challenged. And also, a big part of my 50s has been balancing my relationship to work in general. And how do I make sure that there's real balance in my life? Like the last five you guys were talking about being stuff that's not challenging potentially.
Will Arnett
Right.
Amy Poehler
Just relaxing.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Yes. Like, basically how to find ease and enjoy. You know, the past five years have been wild, wild, wild. And you know what you guys do here? What I've been doing is just like trying to just genuinely laugh with my friends. It's been actually how I've been keeping sane. And so I want to just do whatever feels like that, which feels kind of fun and a little bit challenging. And so I'm always trying to figure it out. I don't know. It's a long winded answer. No, I love it. I don't know.
Jason Bateman
No, but it makes total sense. It's basically a combination of all the things and you're able to combine now because you're older and smarter and wiser. And it doesn't have to be like, all go on career or all go on just like, no, fuck it, I don't want to do anything. We're actually able to merge both now finally, at this age, I think, and.
Amy Poehler
Women, I think especially have often a burden to really pay attention to what everybody is doing and feeling. And then if you have the luxury of turning it around and trying to figure out yourself at like, that is what can be great about getting older. And women do really well, I think, when they like, give themselves time.
Sean Hayes
Let me speak to that. Let me speak about women, because I.
Amy Poehler
Think, yeah, let's talk about women.
Will Arnett
But.
Amy Poehler
Well, go ahead. Your thoughts on women.
Will Arnett
But ama, who is that person that you bounce stuff off of or when.
Amy Poehler
You get like, oh, I would say all of my. All of the women in my life have been. Been like, really, really helpful mentors and teachers and friends and stuff. Like, you know, the women in my life that have been through it with me, I think is really the biggest resource for me. You know, people who have kids and people who, you know, who understand what it's like to feel overwhelmed and stuff. And especially the past five years, which has just been a complete insane, insane shit hit after hit of. Of sci fi nightmares.
Will Arnett
Right? That's a dream of mine.
Jason Bateman
But what.
Will Arnett
What's it like? What's it like being. For you and Will? Being on the verge of being empty nesters? It's not the verge, but it's gonna come sooner than later. Do you think about that?
Amy Poehler
And like, I do.
Will Arnett
How that relates to what you're gonna do?
Amy Poehler
I know, I know. I haven't. I haven't really, but kind of in the short story metaphor, I haven't. I'm like. I don't feel like the story. I'm there yet, so I'm not quite. I don't know. I mean, it feels so. I don't even know.
Jason Bateman
I got one about to go to college and it's.
Amy Poehler
How does it feel, Jace?
Jason Bateman
It's bleak, you know, because there's just. It's a mortality thing. It's like, it's, you know, we all kick it well, but it's like it's the concept of the end of something that is just something is conveniently kind of pushed aside and then it. Then it's.
Sean Hayes
Can I say something about that? That I've noticed? And this is, jb, this is. I've learned from you something that. And I mean this gently and I mean this sweetly, which I.
Jason Bateman
Which is this is gonna hurt.
Sean Hayes
No, which is you've been. Jason's been so nervous and anxious about Franny going to college for a few years, and he's talked about it, and so I see him going through the pain for so long, and this is an example of not living in the present. So sometimes I think that you had a tough time enjoying the moment because you're just so. You've been anticipating it for years. You've been putting that out and talking about it, and I'm trying to separate.
Jason Bateman
Myself from her so it doesn't hurt.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, exactly. Which is, by the way, which is so you. Like, remember, you do that. Like, Jason's thing to not laugh when he's in a take is to think about people dying in a car crash. I'm not kidding. And then he doesn't. And then he won't go up. Right.
Amy Poehler
Well, we all know.
Will Arnett
We all do that.
Amy Poehler
We all know Jason is sociopath.
Sean Hayes
No, he's a robot. But the thing is, I. But. But I see that in you. And I. And I. And I've said it to you before. I'm like, it's okay. Like, let that moment come when that moment comes, and enjoy. So I've been using it. I keep reminding myself, just enjoy it now. Enjoy it now. It's. It's not. Again, not easy.
Amy Poehler
It is not easy.
Sean Hayes
No, it's a great.
Amy Poehler
Well, raise your hand if you think you're going to live to 100. And if you want to live to 100, that's me. Okay. Three of us are raising her hand. Sean is not raising ankle. Sean's like, I can't go on with that ankle. I can't with this ankle. No way.
Will Arnett
No, I'm done. The ankle was the last straw.
Amy Poehler
I think we got a shot.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
No, it's really didn't. Didn't one of these really smart scientists lately say that the person that's going to live to 120 or 150 or something is already born? Like, that's kind of common in this generation. Like, 100 is, like the new.
Will Arnett
But what kind of life do you have at 120?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, Sean, I hear you. Like, as long as it feels like a fruitful life. But, you know, imagine if you were like a little. A little dude in a little. In a cute little suit.
Will Arnett
But they cut. Wheeled around like in the news, like the local news. They cut to like, Marjorie is 106 today, and we're going to. We visited her, and she can't talk or move or she.
Amy Poehler
And they're like, marjorie, Marjorie, what advice do you have for people to live this long? She's like, make sure that she's got cake.
Will Arnett
Cake falling out of her mouth.
Jason Bateman
Mouth every day.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Please walk in me. Have a glass of wine and.
Will Arnett
Exactly. I don't want to be that. I don't want to be Marjorie.
Sean Hayes
Remember, remember Ernest Borgnine had that great. He had his great advice on how to live forever, which was to snap one off every day. And Amy, you know, and. Yeah. And then. And you know where he lived in. In Jason and Amanda's house. So I. I always reminded me, think about Ernest Borgnine walking around that, throwing.
Jason Bateman
Goo all over the place.
Amy Poehler
Bor. He had Borg nine lives.
Sean Hayes
Oh, nice. Very.
Amy Poehler
Thanks, guys.
Will Arnett
Amy, I have one last comment before we let you go, because we've had you for too long. And I want to thank you for your time, but thank you, Sean. I told you and both you and Will. I love Archie and Abel so much, and they've. And I love Maple and Franny, too, and both of everybody on this We Love podcast right now. And you guys have done such a phenomenal job with. Between your journey, between you two. Your kids are just unbelievable, great human beings. And it's the greatest compliment, you know, because. To you guys. Yeah. I just love them. And you guys, they're incredible. And I wanted to remind people to listen to Good. Hang with youh.
Amy Poehler
Thank you. It's on Spotify.
Will Arnett
On Spotify.
Amy Poehler
I have great guests coming out. Tina Fey is my first guest.
Sean Hayes
There's no kidding.
Will Arnett
That's great.
Amy Poehler
Yep. Because, you know, why give the. Give America what they want and then.
Jason Bateman
Get Dax on there. Dax will give you some pointers.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Any pointers, Guys, now that you've. You're five years in, you can tell we've learned nothing.
Will Arnett
Yeah. We're less people.
Amy Poehler
I mean, if you. If you guys can do it.
Sean Hayes
It's true. Anybody can do it. By the way, Amy, you won't be surprised that we haven't looked at comments forever. They'd always be like, their questions suck, and they interrupt people all the time. And I'm like, yeah, of course we do. What are you talking about?
Amy Poehler
If you guys have taught me anything and you've taught me all individually and collectively taught me so much, this is going to hurt.
Will Arnett
It's.
Amy Poehler
Don't overthink it. Don't overthink it.
Sean Hayes
Unbelievable.
Will Arnett
So glad you finally. We finally got you. We love you, Amy.
Amy Poehler
Guys, thanks for having me on. It was so fun.
Sean Hayes
Thank you.
Amy Poehler
Okay. Glad it was a fun Surprise.
Sean Hayes
It was such a good surprise. I'm bringing the boys over.
Amy Poehler
Okay, can't wait.
Jason Bateman
Bye.
Sean Hayes
Bye. Bye. Bye.
Amy Poehler
Bye.
Sean Hayes
Bye, Aim. Thank you.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, you got it. My pleasure.
Jason Bateman
So. Well, that was fantastic to meet her. I've been such a fan of hers for. I don't know.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
How funny. I had no. You know what. When you were doing the intro and of course I was like. And then she was like, oh, you didn't. I was like. It never occurred to me.
Jason Bateman
You just thought it was coincidental that all. Oh, well, you know, Amy did all those.
Will Arnett
How did you guess it, Jay? From what?
Jason Bateman
Because you said a queen of Massachusetts or something like that.
Will Arnett
Oh, wow.
Sean Hayes
It's such a. Like. Yeah.
Will Arnett
I love that you didn't know. I told Amanda last week.
Sean Hayes
Oh.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
And yeah, she's.
Jason Bateman
Amanda could work for the government. She is very good about keeping a.
Sean Hayes
Secret, but the kids. Abel. Abel's here right now. He never said a word.
Will Arnett
I love that.
Sean Hayes
God bless him.
Will Arnett
I love your face.
Sean Hayes
I'm going to go drag him out of his bed.
Jason Bateman
How dare you. That was. That was rad. Listen, it's not to get weird, but I hope you're as proud as you should be. And she as well. I mean like, yeah, that went beautifully. Like the fact that you guys not only have raised these two kids so well, but your relationship is so great and healthy and like that you could do a one hour podcast in front of millions of people and not have to fake anything. Like, it's just right. You know, it's really cool.
Will Arnett
I know. It's like full disclosure.
Sean Hayes
It.
Will Arnett
Like any couple that goes through the journey you've gone through, it took a while, but you're there now.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. You know, but you know, we. I, I am really proud of it. And of course it takes. Things take a minute because everybody's sort of adjusting to what it is. But I, I'm also very proud of, certainly as parents, what we've been able to do and that, you know, is. Has been really important to both of us. And yeah, I, I'm. I'm really, really lucky to have her as a part partner in this way for us to, to.
Jason Bateman
To how lucky Archie and Abel are too, that you guys like worked out a brand new relationship that serves you both and them. And it's.
Sean Hayes
And I would say that I probably, you know, there aren't many people I speak to more than I speak to her, which is weird because it. You know what I mean? But it's, It's. It's great. I feel really lucky and I do.
Jason Bateman
Does Josh Shotland get, get jealous at all or.
Sean Hayes
He does. But, but she is, she is somebody that I, I still run a lot of stuff by if I'm thinking jealous.
Jason Bateman
If Josh is not available.
Sean Hayes
He's my buddy Josh, you know, that I face.
Will Arnett
Oh, Josh, I didn't hear what you said.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, but I, I still like, she's the person I go like, hey, I'm thinking about doing this or hey, like whether it's life or work. And I really, I seek her counsel because it's important to me. Cuz, cuz I trust her in that, you know.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. She's a sharp cookie.
Sean Hayes
She's awesome. She's awesome. And so what is the, what did.
Will Arnett
We, what was the buy from the opening?
Jason Bateman
It was a bicentennial like to hunt 250 of episode.
Will Arnett
That's right.
Jason Bateman
So anyway, so guys, that was unbelievable and enjoy the rest of your day.
Will Arnett
It's our 250th episode. I can't believe 200.
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Yeah, you remember 1976 here, United States.
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That was the 200th. That was the.
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SmartLess Podcast Episode Summary: "Amy Poehler" (Released April 21, 2025)
In the 250th episode of the "SmartLess" podcast, hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett welcome the multifaceted comedian, actress, and producer Amy Poehler. This milestone episode delves deep into Amy's illustrious career, personal anecdotes, insights on parenting, and her perspectives on mental health and personal growth. Below is a detailed summary of the key discussions, enriched with notable quotes and timestamps.
Sean Hayes kicks off the episode by highlighting the milestone:
[01:58] Sean Hayes: "Do you know that this year this count is. We're coming up on five years."
The hosts humorously discuss the significance of reaching 250 episodes, referencing traditional milestones like silver and gold anniversaries.
Will Arnett provides an enthusiastic introduction to Amy Poehler, emphasizing her diverse talents:
[07:30] Will Arnett: "This person is someone we love. Thank you. Thank you. She's someone we all know well. So much so. I'm not sure what I can say about her that won't give it away, but she's a prolific comedian. She's an author, super producer, really great director..."
Despite some humorous inaccuracies in the introduction, the genuine admiration for Amy sets a warm tone for the episode.
Amy shares her journey into comedy, starting with her time in Chicago and her involvement with Second City:
[51:43] Amy Poehler: "Started out in Chicago and arrived at Second City in '93. And the seniors to my freshmen were on the main stage of Chicago. Amy Sedaris, Steve Carell, Stephen Colbert..."
She recounts renting Chris Farley's old apartment and the vibrant comedic community she was part of, which included future SNL stars like Tina Fey and Amy Sedaris.
Moving to New York marked a pivotal shift in Amy's career, bringing her closer to opportunities like SNL:
[56:28] Amy Poehler: "And I think the apartment was probably like $390 a month. ... Studied and met Tina there very early on, and met Rachel Dratch, who I was the understudy for at Second City."
Amy reflects on how relocating facilitated connections that ultimately led to her breakthrough in "Saturday Night Live."
A significant portion of the conversation revolves around balancing professional achievements with personal relationships and parenting.
Amy Poehler shares her thoughts on parenting:
[34:26] Amy Poehler: "Parenting is like a series of short stories. So a short story starts and you think, I don't know how this story is gonna go..."
The hosts discuss strategies for effective parenting, emphasizing the importance of listening and adapting to children's evolving needs.
The dialogue shifts to mental health and the significance of staying present:
[38:08] Amy Poehler: "I think improv was really helpful with that. Like, you had to stay super present just to be..."
Sean Hayes adds his experience with embracing the present:
[40:07] Sean Hayes: "And I've been using it. I keep reminding myself, just enjoy it now. Enjoy it now. It's. It's not. Again, not easy."
The conversation highlights the challenges of letting go of rigid plans and the benefits of accepting situations as they unfold.
Amy introduces her new podcast, "Good Hang," showcasing her passion for storytelling and conversation:
[20:53] Amy Poehler: "It's called Good Hang and it's on Spotify."
She expresses excitement about exploring new mediums and connecting with diverse guests, aiming to create engaging and meaningful dialogues.
The episode is peppered with funny stories and light-hearted banter, demonstrating the authentic chemistry between the hosts and Amy. Notable moments include Amy recounting a prank involving voice-activated TV screens and the hosts sharing playful interactions about parenting and personal quirks.
[46:38] Amy Poehler: "I love telling someone something is voice activated when it isn't. I don't like a prank. I'm not a prank person at all."
These anecdotes provide listeners with a glimpse into the hosts' and Amy's personalities beyond their professional personas.
As the conversation progresses, the discussion turns to aging gracefully and planning for the future:
[42:24] Amy Poehler: "I can't believe I was there, to be very honest. Like, it was... It feels like a high school reunion. Everybody regressed a little bit back into their old roles."
The hosts reflect on their favorite decades, personal growth over the years, and the evolving nature of their relationships and careers.
[42:45] Amy Poehler: "I have a lot of wise people younger and older than me. Like, I'm in this sandwich of experience. So I learn a lot from people who are younger than me, and I learn a lot from people that are older than me..."
As the episode nears its end, Amy Poehler expresses gratitude for being part of the "SmartLess" family and hints at future collaborations:
[68:56] Amy Poehler: "I have great guests coming out. Tina Fey is my first guest..."
The hosts commend Amy for her contributions and bid her farewell with heartfelt appreciation.
Sean Hayes on podcast milestones:
[01:58] "Do you know that this year this count is. We're coming up on five years."
Amy Poehler on parenting:
[34:26] "Parenting is like a series of short stories. So a short story starts and you think, I don't know how this story is gonna go..."
Amy Poehler on staying present:
[38:08] "I think improv was really helpful with that. Like, you had to stay super present just to be..."
Amy Poehler introducing her podcast:
[20:53] "It's called Good Hang and it's on Spotify."
Will Arnett on aging:
[43:07] "You're the freshman of old people."
The 250th episode of "SmartLess" featuring Amy Poehler is a rich tapestry of humor, heartfelt discussions, and insightful reflections. Amy's journey from improv stages to mainstream success, coupled with her honest conversations about parenting and personal growth, offers listeners both inspiration and entertainment. The authentic camaraderie among the hosts and Amy ensures a memorable and engaging experience for both long-time fans and newcomers alike.