"Jennifer Lopez"

Summary

SmartLess Podcast – "Jennifer Lopez"

Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett | June 15, 2026

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Episode Overview

This engaging episode of SmartLess welcomes the multi-hyphenate star Jennifer Lopez. The hosts—Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett—dive into an honest and often hilarious conversation with J.Lo, covering her iconic career, roots, the reality of fame, the demands of creative life, and her continued reinvention. The tone oscillates between playful, deeply reflective, and candid, providing listeners with fresh perspectives on Lopez’s work ethic, her impact on representation for Latina women, and the personal evolution behind the global persona.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Arrival and Early Banter

[03:16–10:10] Casual Group Banter & Guest Reveal

• The hosts riff on personal routines, sun exposure, and self-care.
• Will introduces Jennifer Lopez with a detailed career bio.
• Early jokes and warm welcomes set a light, energetic tone.

2. J.Lo’s Work Ethic and Early Inspiration

[15:56–20:26] Work Ethic, Responsibility, and Inspiration

• Will cites J.Lo’s rare drive and discipline:

  "You realize... how rare your kind of drive is..." (16:13, Will Arnett)

• Jason references her documentary, emphasizing her “stacked” career (16:13–16:30).
• J.Lo recalls a pivotal early moment when a co-worker told her:

  "Jennifer, if you can’t do it, none of us can do it." (17:43, Jennifer Lopez)

Notable Quote

“It gave me a feeling of responsibility to do things right all the time.”
— Jennifer Lopez [18:00]

• J.Lo connects her rigor to an athlete’s mentality, referencing a youth spent running track and playing sports before falling in love with dance and musicals, where Rita Moreno was a huge inspiration (20:10).

3. Fame: The Loss of Anonymity and Mental Health

[26:46–32:36] Struggling with Sudden Fame, Panic Attacks, and Boundaries

• Sean asks about the moment J.Lo became truly globally recognized.
• Jennifer tells a vivid story of panic at being recognized post-Selena (27:00–28:00).
• She describes feeling anonymous slipping away:

  "Your anonymity is gone... you can't get that back." (28:01, Jennifer Lopez)

• Will pivots to her candid account of physical and mental overload while filming Enough—breaking down after 98 days straight of work (29:08–31:25).
• Sean and Jen discuss paparazzi craziness and living a curated, limited public life.

Notable Quote

"It was a terrible time for me..."
— Jennifer Lopez [28:11]

“You can't go back. They're always gonna know.”
— Jennifer Lopez [28:32]

4. Cultural Impact: Latina Representation & the J.Lo Brand

[33:19–34:40] The Rise of 'J.Lo' & Cultural Moments

• The origin of “J.Lo” dates to rapper Heavy D dubbing her with the nickname at a studio (33:22).
• Discussion of “Jenny from the Block” as an anthem and perennial character for Jennifers everywhere (34:22).
• Playful banter about how the nickname trend caught on.

5. Hollywood Transition: Proving Herself as an Actress

[35:28–38:53] From Dancer to Critically Acclaimed Actress

• J.Lo credits her first major film (Mi Familia) with proving her acting ability.
• Discussion of Out of Sight, auditioning with Clooney at his pig-inhabited house, and how landing significant dramatic roles truly cemented Hollywood’s acceptance of her as an actress.

Notable Moment

“[About auditioning with Clooney] ...I got there and there was a pig in the front yard… This is some real Hollywood shit.”
— Jennifer Lopez [38:28]

6. Decision-Making, Power, and Reinvention

[39:01–44:32] Career Choices, Agency, and Motherhood

• Jason asks how Jennifer chooses what to do next, given her cross-medium success.
• J.Lo reflects on moments of humility and an internal shift as her twins head to college:

  "For the first time in my life, I've really taken more control... What do you really wanna do?" (41:04)

• She expresses pride in her kids and the life she's built post-turbulence.

Notable Quote

“I have opened up an avenue for myself where there's endless possibility and I can really create a new dream right now for myself.”
— Jennifer Lopez [42:44]

7. Personal Growth, Therapy, and Self-Love

[48:19–56:27] Healing, Growing Up, and Taking Accountability

• The conversation turns toward personal growth, self-reflection, and the importance of therapy.
• Jennifer describes sitting down after her last divorce, halting her tour, and doing the difficult personal work to break old patterns (50:07–51:28).

Notable Quote

"You need to fucking figure yourself out... There's nobody to blame here except yourself in a certain way."
— Jennifer Lopez [50:50]

• Sean and Jen share the importance of self-realization, loving oneself, and the changes that come with parenting and therapy.

8. Grit, Origins, and Financial Savvy

[57:08–60:19] Hustle, Family, and the Untold Stories

• Will and J.Lo discuss her grit—leaving the Bronx, sleeping in dance studios, disappointing her family to pursue dance, and almost becoming a lawyer.
• She reflects on her early practicality and still keeping a keen eye on her business affairs (59:18).

9. Final Speed Round: Tour Fails, Bronx Habits & Fun Facts

[61:01–69:25] Music, Mishaps, and Google Images

• Jennifer describes her recent #1 dance record and performing at Coachella for the first time (61:20–62:29).
• Anecdotes about onstage mishaps:

  “My coccyx was on fire...It ran on CNN for the next three days.” [63:58] A bug crawling up her neck during a show in Spain [65:08–66:12].

• Will reveals Google Images was created after demand for photos of J.Lo in the green Versace dress (66:30).
• Updates on new projects:
  • Office Romance (Netflix, June 5th) written by Brett Goldstein with Edward James Olmos as her father (67:19–68:38).
  • Hints at more musical theater, referencing Bye Bye Birdie and her latest filmed Las Vegas residency for Paramount+ (69:42–70:13).

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Memorable Quotes & Reflections

On Fame and Vulnerability

“...You learn to kind of, like, live a certain way...I don’t go out all that much, you know...”
— Jennifer Lopez [32:11]

On Cultural Impact

“If you can’t do it, none of us can do it.”
— J.Lo’s coworker; pivotal personal responsibility [17:43]

On Perseverance & Adaptation

“People are capable of change because I’ve experienced it.”
— Jennifer Lopez [54:03]

On Loving Yourself

“Stop looking for love in other things...And give it to yourself.”
— Jennifer Lopez [53:13]

On Representation

“Maybe because I was Puerto Rican and from the Bronx...I wasn’t born in Hollywood...”
— Jennifer Lopez [19:12]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [10:10] — Jennifer Lopez joins the show ("A little cappuccino...")
• [16:13] — Hosts praise J.Lo’s ambition and documentary.
• [17:43] — Pivotal moment of “if you can’t do it, none of us can.”
• [26:59] — Story of post-Selena instant fame & panic attacks.
• [29:08] — Exhaustion meltdown on Enough set.
• [33:22] — Origin of "J.Lo" nickname and “Jenny from the Block.”
• [38:28] — Clooney/pig/‘Out of Sight’ audition story.
• [41:04] — Discussing newfound agency with her career.
• [50:07] — Jennifer’s pivot point after divorce, focus on self.
• [65:08] — Onstage bug crawling up her neck story.
• [66:30] — Google Images origin story.
• [67:19] — Office Romance and Brett Goldstein.
• [69:42] — Filmed Vegas residency for Paramount+.

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Final Thoughts & Host Reflections

• Hosts express admiration for J.Lo’s coolness, humility, and “calmness.” (71:01)
• Emphasis on her being a “megastar” who is simultaneously grounded and self-aware.
• Jason highlights her ability to stay in touch with her beginnings, community, and family.
• Panel agrees that while people think they know celebrities, “we don’t really understand other people’s experiences unless we walk in their shoes.” (48:57, Sean Hayes)

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Takeaway

Jennifer Lopez’s episode offers refreshing honesty—revealing not just relentless ambition, but the importance of reflection, therapy, self-love, and pride in her roots. Her journey is painted as both extraordinary and deeply relatable, making this a must-listen for fans interested in what it takes to manage extraordinary success while remaining authentic and evolving as a human being.

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Guest Plugs

• Office Romance – Netflix, premiering June 5th
• Upcoming Las Vegas residency special on Paramount+/CBS
• Recent #1 single "Save Me Tonight"
• (Watch for her potential chocolate chip cookie venture, "J.Do")

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For More:
Listen to the full episode for many more laughs, untold tour stories, inside references, and a masterclass in the art of reinvention from Jennifer Lopez.

Transcript

[Jennifer Lopez]

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[Will Arnett]

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[Jason Bateman]

Okay, this is Jason. I'm doing a cold open. I'm real snacky. It's carbohydrates. They're crunchy. They're salty. They're not good for me, but man, it feels good. Doesn't it feel good, gang? To do a nice crunchy, salty snack or do you like the gooey sweet ones? I don't know. Maybe a combo of both is great, right? But which do you start with? Which do you end with what do you put in between? I know what you put in between. You put in a nice, big, fat, well cooked episode of Smartless.

[Will Arnett]

Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, yum, yum.

[Jason Bateman]

Welcome to Smartless.

[Sean Hayes]

Smart, Smart, Smart.

[Jason Bateman]

The stress, you know, guys, I can't have the stress. I, I, I, I, I, I lost my voice. And it's just. Now. Come back a little bit. I still have a little Brenda feeling.

[Will Arnett]

You screaming at people on the Knicks game.

[Sean Hayes]

Is it from the Knicks games or just. Yeah, screaming at people.

[Jason Bateman]

I think it was. It was a. It was.

[Sean Hayes]

I want my chair over here.

[Jason Bateman]

My. It was. I think it was a cold or it might have been allergies. No, I mean, yeah, it started. It started. Yeah, it started in my throat, and it went to my nose, and then it landed on my vocal cords.

[Sean Hayes]

You're a little fr. Is a little fragile. Is the first time we're meeting the

[Jason Bateman]

real JB right now. And I was a little frazzled getting to Mike today. Because that's what we call it, right? Getting to Mike.

[Will Arnett]

Getting to Mike.

[Jason Bateman]

I'm sure. Because I wanted to have my teeth brushed for you. Do you guys brush your teeth for me?

[Will Arnett]

Of course. Always.

[Sean Hayes]

No, not me.

[Jason Bateman]

You don't.

[Will Arnett]

Don't you brush your teeth? I'll look at his teeth.

[Jason Bateman]

Did you. Did you sleep with a whitener on too long last night?

[Sean Hayes]

No, I went to the.

[Will Arnett]

Look at that.

[Sean Hayes]

I went to the dentist yesterday, and he's like, I don't white my teeth. How about that?

[Will Arnett]

And you smoke. Shh.

[Jason Bateman]

And you drink coffee.

[Sean Hayes]

I don't drink coffee.

[Jason Bateman]

And you self tan.

[Sean Hayes]

Don't self tan. That's the one where. Don't make me mad. You and Kimmel. Kimmel. Nobody loves hitting me my tan more than Molly.

[Will Arnett]

But where does self tan mean? You just lays out.

[Jason Bateman]

That's like a cream. But where do you find the time? And how is it always so even Mr. Trump?

[Sean Hayes]

Well, you know. You know. You know what I do every day? I do my walk every day, and so that's like an hour.

[Jason Bateman]

I don't. I don't talk to me like I'm watching you doing your heavy hands. And you know, you know what my routine. Your Velcro, ankle weights. You know my routine is that with my weight vest.

[Sean Hayes]

Somebody took a picture of me with my weight vest yesterday on lom of I. Oh, really?

[Will Arnett]

I got to see that.

[Jason Bateman]

But will I spend a lot of time when I'm not working on the golf course? As we're aware. What that's that is. That's. That's five hours of sun exposure and I wear 100. So you're saying your 20 minute.

[Sean Hayes]

I don't wear.

[Jason Bateman]

Okay, that's what it is.

[Sean Hayes]

A. And B, I don't wear a bucket hat.

[Jason Bateman]

Right, so you wear no sun protection whatsoever. You're kind of bragging about that right now to get yourself that nice color. I'm not bragging about it. Cancer.

[Sean Hayes]

I'm not. First of all, fucking cool it. It's early for me to die, okay?

[Jason Bateman]

I've had. I've had skin cancer already. I had. I had something shaved off my. My. My eye. Remember that? Go in there and got it all scraped off.

[Sean Hayes]

I get checked. I have a friend of mine, and she's been giving me a lot of shit about sunscree.

[Jason Bateman]

Are these checks that you pay for or is it. You say a friend, like a.

[Sean Hayes]

Like a close friend of mine?

[Jason Bateman]

Does she check for ticks at the same time? And all those tough to find spots.

[Sean Hayes]

Whoops.

[Will Arnett]

Found another one. She just squeezes it out like a zit.

[Sean Hayes]

You're like. You're covered in ticks.

[Will Arnett]

But I found a couple leeches too.

[Sean Hayes]

I'm like.

[Jason Bateman]

So they have to remove the poison.

[Sean Hayes]

The ticks hit the tick.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, my God.

[Jason Bateman]

So wait, so you've got. You've got a. Yeah. Now you're getting into a sweat because you're thinking about all the possible risks you're taking.

[Sean Hayes]

I've also had four coffees today, so I'm having a coffee sweat.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

You know, we were at dinner the other night, jb, you were missed. I know you were missed. And Jen brought a photo up from our big family trip from a few years back where we went with all the kids and everything and.

[Jason Bateman]

God, I love that.

[Sean Hayes]

And there's a photo of all of us. And then my head sticking out the back. Remember how tan I was? And my hair is sticking up and then I've got zinc on my lips. And I look like a crazy person. Right, Sean?

[Will Arnett]

We passed around the photo and everybody had something to say about it.

[Sean Hayes]

And I've never seen it. No, I'd never seen it before. I was like, what is. I look like an insane. Yeah, you look like.

[Will Arnett]

You look like a predator.

[Sean Hayes]

Guys came to the island and found me there. Like I'd laid out, you know, I'd written in the sand. Sos.

[Jason Bateman]

We have to go back there. I know that, guys.

[Sean Hayes]

It'd be fun to go now with the kids a little bit older.

[Will Arnett]

Hey, how's it night? It's not it's fun being back for the weekend.

[Jason Bateman]

It's very nice to be back for the weekend. Yes.

[Sean Hayes]

I'm going to your Q and A, Jay, tomorrow at Netflix because I want to. I know that you're doing a Q and A session.

[Jason Bateman]

Right. Hey, what the hell are you doing there?

[Sean Hayes]

Well, I'm just going to go because I want to ask you questions about directing and stuff. I know you're giving, like, a thing.

[Jason Bateman]

Good.

[Sean Hayes]

And so I got an email from Netflix about it. Like, come join us. So I'm like, oh, I'm Wear the

[Will Arnett]

zinc on your nose so that when you hold your hand up.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Put a fake mustache and a hat. And then I'm going to sit in the back and I'll be like, I've got a question.

[Jason Bateman]

No, you should. You should play the crazy Italian guy from our podcast.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, I love a black.

[Sean Hayes]

These brothers are crazy. You're unhinged.

[Jason Bateman]

I can't believe they sent you an invite.

[Sean Hayes]

No, actually, a different friend of mine got an email about it, and they sent it to me, and I was like, oh, fucking send me that. I want to go. I want to go show up and crash. How good. And then, you know what? I did have the thought. I was like, if I did it, then I make it about me. And I'm not going to go and do that.

[Will Arnett]

Why do you.

[Sean Hayes]

Please, please, please, do I do it enough? There's so many people listening right now who are nodding, going, I know you do make it about you. We hate your stupid stories.

[Jason Bateman]

But what about, like, yeah, so I'm here this weekend to do this. This. These interviews and stuff for. For DTF and for Black Rabbit. And it's all talking. It's all talking. It's, you know, including this podcast. And I was looking at, like, literally 36 hours ago. I. I couldn't. I could.

[Sean Hayes]

Everything was like this. I couldn't.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, really? And I was like, oh, my God. I've got, like, five days of work ahead of me. That's just talking. Luckily, I got a little prednisone in me and. And an anab.

[Sean Hayes]

I was talking to our buddy who's doing Dog Day Afternoon. Not Jon Bernthal, but I was talking to. You guys. Know, Jon Ortiz is the best. He's a great actor, and he's a good buddy of mine, and he is on Broadway right now, and he has a really bad cold, and it's a night. He's like, it's a nightmare scenario.

[Jason Bateman]

I almost called you, Sean, because I knew you'd probably have some like fancy Broadway doctor that knows how to deal with vocal.

[Will Arnett]

Vocal stuff, always. I have two of the best boots.

[Sean Hayes]

Nose.

[Jason Bateman]

Wait, wait, is that. Wait, Sean, are you getting rid of paddles and going with boots?

[Sean Hayes]

Right now he's boots. Right now he's boots.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, Boots McGee. Yeah, and Boots.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, because I have a boot on. But speaking of, Sean's got a point

[Sean Hayes]

that he wants to make. I saw him. Who are you looking at off camera? Who's giving you the cue to go into it? Is it Scott?

[Will Arnett]

No, nobody.

[Jason Bateman]

Me.

[Will Arnett]

It's me. Okay, I'm looking at all of you. No, we have to go because our guest is super famous and she has to work.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, sorry.

[Jason Bateman]

Okay. Yes.

[Sean Hayes]

Here we go. I should have got dressed up. I, meanwhile, got undressed.

[Jason Bateman]

Put your sleeves back on.

[Sean Hayes]

I'm gonna put a nice pashmina on.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, guys, my guest today, who I love and I live for, grew up in Castle Hill, New York, the middle of three sisters in an apartment.

[Jason Bateman]

Andrew Martin.

[Will Arnett]

So small they all shared a bed. There was always music in the house with constant reenactments of west side Story. I could do the whole thing with her.

[Jason Bateman]

Chenoweth.

[Will Arnett]

But her parents still hoped she'd become a lawyer. Instead, she left college to pursue dance full time. Left home and ended up sleeping in a Manhattan dance studio. Somewhere along the way, she taught Kerry Washington how to dance. I can't wait to ask about that. Then she became the first Latina actress ever paid a million dollars for a movie role. Briefly been on this podcast before. It's the beautiful, multi talented and unstoppable Jennifer Lopez. Lopez.

[Sean Hayes]

Yes.

[Jason Bateman]

Go away, Willie. Got it. Very nice.

[Jennifer Lopez]

A few.

[Sean Hayes]

No, when you said briefly and then I remember you briefly on yes.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. I was so close with Andrea Martin. God damn it.

[Jennifer Lopez]

So close.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, my God. Jen, what are you drinking?

[Jason Bateman]

Hi there.

[Jennifer Lopez]

A little cappuccino.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, nice.

[Jason Bateman]

Now, what do you go with for the milk on that? Are we almond? Are we oatmeal?

[Will Arnett]

I'm traditional.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I like a 2% milk. I know everybody's with fancy oats and almonds.

[Will Arnett]

Yes. Cow milk all the way.

[Sean Hayes]

Jason. Jason responds to that. You, beta.

[Jason Bateman]

Well, I know, but I feel. I got. I got word from one of those doctors back in the day that I'm. I'm lactose intolerant or bad with the dairy or something like that. Yeah. And so I've just. I've never had, like, cow milk since then. Plus I did see a documentary once where they said the very disgusting fact, which is humans are the only species that Drink the milk of another animal.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Jason Bateman]

I don't think that. Like, that is weird, isn't it? That we drink milk.

[Jennifer Lopez]

It's weird. It is weird.

[Will Arnett]

I'm the same way. I don't care.

[Sean Hayes]

I know.

[Jason Bateman]

You drink full, tall glasses of milk.

[Will Arnett]

I don't care.

[Jason Bateman]

I know. It tastes so good. It tastes so good.

[Will Arnett]

Plus, but Jennifer Lopez is always working out and exercising and staying in good health so she can have milk in her coffee.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I try.

[Sean Hayes]

Right about that. It's not about that health, Sean.

[Will Arnett]

But I mean, you know, you have to. If you're going to do it, you kind of have to balance. It. Says Jennifer Lopez.

[Jason Bateman]

Says Dr. Ding Dong.

[Sean Hayes]

Very healthy. You look very, very healthy.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Thank you.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

Jen, thank you for doing this. I'm so exc. This is a long time coming for me. You've been on my list since we started.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Oh, you.

[Jason Bateman]

Sweet.

[Sean Hayes]

Wow. This is exciting.

[Will Arnett]

It's true. And I know we kind of know each other, and I love you, too.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Do you dance together?

[Will Arnett]

Yeah. We worked together many times over the years on the Will and Grace. And something else, too. I can't remember what.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Did we.

[Will Arnett]

I think so.

[Jennifer Lopez]

You know what I realized? I'm so bad that, you know, you get to a point where you've done so much with so many people, and people are like, we did that like the other day. Don't hate me. I was watching Monster in Law.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, my God.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And I forgot you were in it.

[Jason Bateman]

I'm gonna talk about that. That's what happens with him.

[Jennifer Lopez]

No, no, because it was just so long ago. I mean, I don't want to say how many years ago it was, but it was so long.

[Jason Bateman]

Wasn't that during Arrested Development? Willie, you did that.

[Sean Hayes]

That was 21 years ago. It was the summer of 2005.

[Jennifer Lopez]

21 years ago.

[Jason Bateman]

Wow. You know, Jennifer, as I'm admiring your beautiful printer in the background there, I then noticed that. Sean, you've moved the award. Didn an award?

[Will Arnett]

Yes, because you made fun of me

[Jason Bateman]

and I made fun of you. Moved it.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, I did, but it's just right there. Both of them.

[Jennifer Lopez]

But.

[Jason Bateman]

But what about how Jen keeps it real? She's got a printer in the bedroom.

[Sean Hayes]

That's a biz.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I'm in a hotel.

[Will Arnett]

You are?

[Jason Bateman]

Where?

[Jennifer Lopez]

In New York. I was here for the upfront, so I just. Here.

[Jason Bateman]

No, but you know. You know, people, like, stack their awards behind them when they do zooms.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah, I do.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

No, you don't.

[Jennifer Lopez]

But in my office at home, I have, like, a wall of all these

[Will Arnett]

Awards all behind me for the Zigran.

[Jennifer Lopez]

They're just there. And then you sit at your desk and they're there.

[Jason Bateman]

You've got so many, you can't point them.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Where are you gonna put them? Exactly, Jason, where are you gonna put them? In your office? There or. Yeah, by the way, they're in the basement.

[Jason Bateman]

Will's looking behind him. He can't fit him in the whisper booth.

[Sean Hayes]

I can't. There's not one. There's not one ojv.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Why? It's so dark in there.

[Will Arnett]

I know.

[Jason Bateman]

So that his tan.

[Sean Hayes]

This is my booth, but hang on a second, I'm gonna show you.

[Jason Bateman]

He's getting a nice bounce off, though.

[Jennifer Lopez]

The shorts.

[Jason Bateman]

I know the shorts.

[Will Arnett]

Like at some. At what age do you stop wearing shorts?

[Sean Hayes]

First of all, look at these.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, that's a hockey glove.

[Sean Hayes]

These are special. Toronto Maple Leaves limited. Toronto Maple.

[Jason Bateman]

When is one of the Toronto Maple Leafs ever had a green hockey glove?

[Sean Hayes]

It used to be the Toronto Saint Pats when they first started. And then look at this. Jason, do you remember this? I've somehow kept this after all these years.

[Jason Bateman]

What is it? Is that the wanna maker from the PGA Championship?

[Sean Hayes]

It's called the VH1.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, boy.

[Sean Hayes]

Big, big in 04. And we got. We went for arrested, and somehow I've kept this stupid huge trophy.

[Jason Bateman]

Wait, so we got one trophy and you got to keep it?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. Obviously everybody elected me because they were like, who's the Most deserving?

[Jason Bateman]

Is VH1 still going?

[Sean Hayes]

I don't know.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, I think so. Hey, welcome to the show.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah. Question for the guest, please, Sean.

[Jennifer Lopez]

No, not at all.

[Jason Bateman]

Gotta break in.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Let's just chit chat.

[Will Arnett]

Well, it's, you know, but it's the thing about, like, we worked together three times on Will and Grace, and the first time. God, did we laugh a lot. I mean, we did. I was kicking you in. Literally physically kicking you in the ass, jumping in between your legs and, like, dancing like fools. It was ridiculously hilarious. And you were so game. And I think you're so game for so many things. And, you know, in researching.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah. So many things sometimes.

[Will Arnett]

No, no, no. But, you know, in doing all this research before today, you realize. Oh, I don't really. I've never done a deep dive on you. We always have chit chat and have a good time, you know, and laugh.

[Sean Hayes]

You never asked her anything important. You were just worried about yourself.

[Will Arnett]

That's right. I was always like, when's the next question about me? So before we get into it, I just Want to say, I realize doing all this stuff, how rare your kind of drive is, your work ethic, the ambition, the discipline you've been doing at such a high level for decades.

[Jason Bateman]

I mean, if you've seen her documentary, that documentary, I think I had a chance to run into you after I saw it and said how much I love it. It's so impressive. I mean, not only just well made, but the scope of it. I mean, your career is incredibly stacked.

[Will Arnett]

It's incredible.

[Jason Bateman]

I mean, non stop.

[Will Arnett]

And this is another thing we'll talk about later, but the thing you do for women in general, whether you do it intentionally or not, I'm sure some of it is intentional. You make them feel empowered. You show them that talent and beauty and sexuality. You can have all that at any age and, and you're fearless about all that. How aware of. Are you aware of how much permission that gives people? Or are you too busy working to even think about it?

[Jennifer Lopez]

I'll say this. When I was starting out and I had just started doing like my clothing line, so I had been acting for a while and dancing and singing for a while. Had my first records out and things like that. So this is, fuck, I don't know, 20 years ago, and I was working with a few girls in my office who are like friends who I just hired, you know, And I remember saying, like it was getting overwhelming and I said, I just, this is so fucking much. Why am I doing this? This is too much. And she goes, jennifer, if you can't. And I probably had just went through some breakup and fucking everything had blown up in my face again. You know what I mean? I was just like, I just don't know if I can go on. She goes, jennifer, if you can't do it, none of us can do it. And when she said that to me, I never forgot it. And I thought to myself, oh, people look at me a certain way, especially girls, like women.

[Jason Bateman]

Inspiration, for sure.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And it gave me a feeling of responsibility to do things right all the time.

[Will Arnett]

A responsibility you like or didn't want.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I don't mind it because I am a hard worker and I do have discipline. Like, I started running track when I was, you know, I don't know, eight or nine years old. And I was practicing every day. Like I always had kind of like an athlete's kind of drive and, and work ethic.

[Sean Hayes]

That makes sense.

[Jennifer Lopez]

So I, yeah, and, and I did track for a while, gymnastics. I played softball. Like I was very much an athlete before I, I fell in love with dancing Once I fell in love with dancing. Sports went out the window.

[Will Arnett]

Right? Because it is a sport.

[Jennifer Lopez]

It is a sport, and it was just an easy transition. But also because I grew up on musicals with my mom and all of that, and I loved them so much. It was like I always wanted to sing and dance and act, but when it took its natural time, I really, like, left everything behind and just fell in love with that. But that really made me feel. That exchange stayed with me even all these years later because it just made me feel like, don't fuck it up. Do the right things. People are watching you for whatever reason. Maybe because I was Puerto Rican and from the Bronx and came from similar places where all these people come from. I wasn't born in Hollywood and kind of that thing. And so there was a real.

[Sean Hayes]

Jason,

[Jennifer Lopez]

a real idea in my mind of you have to do things right. Don't.

[Will Arnett]

Don't fuck it up, you know, and work for it.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And do it. Do it. Like, do the thing. Like, go for the. Go for it.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

What was first for you? Was it an example of someone who was just an incredible inspiration as far as their. Their accomplishments? Was that first, or was it being inspired by seeing an incredible dancer or musician or actor or when you. When you a little girl, what was the first thing that inspired you? Was it accomplishment or was it a specific talent?

[Jennifer Lopez]

No, it was the arts from when I was very little. I remember you brought up Rita Moreno and you brought up west side Story right before us. You were trying to guess who I was.

[Sean Hayes]

He always does. That's all he does. That's all he does is bring up Rita Moreno.

[Jennifer Lopez]

It really was Rita Moreno for me.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, really?

[Sean Hayes]

Really?

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yes. Yes.

[Jason Bateman]

I did want her to be my mom. Watching an Electric Company. I said to my mother once when I was a tiny little kid, I said, I want her to be my mom.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yes. Who wouldn't? And she's so amazing. The thing is, is like, my mom watched west side Story in the theater when it first came out, and she made us watch it every single year. I don't even remember the first time I saw it. Three years old, four years old, five years old. But I do remember watching it on TV one Thanksgiving because it came on once a year and thinking, that's what I want to do. I want to sing and dance and act. I want to dance around. I want to sing. And my mother was kind of that way as well, and very kind of vivacious, take over the room type of person. And I wasn't like that I was more like my dad. I was more quiet and kind of like to myself. But that part I had, like, I wanted to sing and dance and shake my ass too, you know, my mom

[Jason Bateman]

was like, just imagine you dancing and singing around like the living room and stuff like that. Like, like, like kids do. Because like, that's when we have no fear and no, no, no sense of. Of, you know, and like dance like

[Sean Hayes]

nobody's watching, you mean?

[Jason Bateman]

Right. But then there's that moment we all hit when we're about, I don't know, 10, 11 or something where you start to become aware of shame and embarrassment and what other people might be thinking. And there's that transition that. It's almost a sad transition that you see kids go through where they become self aware, but then, you know, you hope that they gather sort of coping skills to kind of have self assuredness and to kind of push through that and have their confidence take over and to be able to push through that. Do you remember that moment where you stopped kind of dancing like no one was watching and you were aware people were watching and we're able to push through that.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I think this is what makes me a little different. That I was never.

[Jason Bateman]

That never happened.

[Jennifer Lopez]

No. I was never afraid to make a fool of myself. That's like, I was always just like, it's fine. I fell down. And maybe that was part of the athlete part too. You know what I mean? Like, it was just like, you're gonna make mistakes, you're gonna fall, you're gonna do the. Like, I was ready. I'm like, get back up. Very scrappy.

[Jason Bateman]

Part of learning, part of success.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

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[Jason Bateman]

And now back to the show.

[Sean Hayes]

I was thinking about when you started and really started to sort of break through and I kind of want to get into what that was because I'm not sure I really know what that thing was.

[Will Arnett]

I have questions about it.

[Sean Hayes]

Thank you. Sean. This is not your Time. I'd like to reclaim my time. Jennifer, I wonder if, you know, like, the moment when you broke through and you broke through on such a global level in such a way that is very, very rare, where everybody in the world knows who you are, and just bear with me that. That you have the moment where you. Where that kind of dawns on you. The level of recognition and fame and then you as a person, the gap of you catching up to that and being okay with that on that kind of a level. Do you remember that time? Was it a struggle kind of between you and.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Was the worst. It was. Honestly, it was the worst. It was. I had just done Selena and the movie came out, and I was still walking around, you know, Hollywood, like, going on auditions. Like, it was still that time.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

But it had just come out, and I was walking down the street, and for the first time, somebody was like, hey, hey. And they come running towards me, and I thought, motherfucker's gonna mug me. What. What the is going on right now? Like, I got really nervous, you know, and I was just, you know, like, any woman in the world, you know, we're threatened by other. So many things. Like, we're so scared all the time in a weird way. And I was just walking to the store from my apartment in la, and it was just so jarring to me. And then I realized they were like, I saw. I saw you in whatever. And I was like, oh, yeah?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I was like, I don't. But. But my thing was like, I don't know you. Like, I don't know you. Like, what are you doing? Like, back up. Don't touch me. I was so scared. And I remember it dawning on me, I was like, oh, you're not anonymous anymore. Your anonymity is gone.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And I don't. And I think in my mind, I thought, you can't get that back. That's something that's lost forever. And I remember that's when I started having panic attacks and.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, did you.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Oh, it was a terrible time for me.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah. Can you talk about that when you were filming enough, right?

[Jennifer Lopez]

No, that was another time. That was when I overworked myself, when I didn't realize my limits.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

But I read about that in preparation for this, and that's fascinating to me because I love medical stories where you. Well, do you. Can you say what happened and why?

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah. So that was the kind of getting used to, like, fame and realizing your life had changed in a way that you couldn't control anymore or go back you can't go back. They're always gonna know. Somebody will always have seen Selena, and somebody will always. And for whatever reason, that really freaked me out. And that took a minute. But what you're talking about is when I was doing enough. I think I had done like four movies in a row, and I had recorded my second album or something like that. So the JLo album, which was really big.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, huge.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And what was like The J. The JLo album. And I was working, filming every day, as you guys know what that is, you know, all the hours. And then I would go into the studio at night, and then on the weekends, I, like, had junkets or video shoots or whatever. And I remember not clocking that I had worked like 98 days in a row without taking a day off.

[Will Arnett]

Right.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Because we went back and counted it. Cause we're like, what happened? And one day I'm sitting in the. On the set of Enough. It's actually kind of thinking about it. And I'm walking to the set every single time. And every time I walk to the set, I start getting a little, like a little pitter patter in my heart. Like it's like rising. And I go. And finally it got to the point I was like, I really feel nervous. And I had the little girl in Enough, and I was like, I'm sorry, sweetie. I feel a little weird today. I said, I feel a little tired or something. And she was like, it's okay. You're gonna be all right. You know, she's like going like this to my face. But I wasn't all right. And I went back to the trailer and I sat down, and all of a sudden, like, I just couldn't see. Like, it was almost like I couldn't see clearly. Like something just went over my eyes and I couldn't move. And one of my girlfriends, who was my friend since the second grade, was my assistant. And she was like, so she has to know. Like, she doesn't know what. She didn't really know what she was doing too much. But we loved dugging it out together and fig figuring it out and being together. And I said to her, arlene, I can't move. I can't see. She goes, stop it, Jennifer. You're scaring me. And I go, no, I really can't move. I said, no, I can't move. You should get somebody. And she's like, stop, stop. I said, get Bob, my security guard. And she got me. And I was like, I can't move and I can't see. And I couldn't move. I was just. Just paralyzed. And he picked me up and put me in the car. We went to the hospital, and it was crazy. And I said to the doctor, I said, am I going crazy? And he said, no, you're not crazy.

[Will Arnett]

It's exhaustion.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah. He's like, you're. You shut down.

[Sean Hayes]

I remember. I remember. Speaking of monster in law, I remember we were shooting a couple days, like, downtown somewhere. And the level of attention. I remember you having to drive to set and they had to put blinders on the thing for you to drive into. And there were photographers on the roofs of the building across the street.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

And I remember thinking. And then. And they had the base camp set up in this parking lot downtown. And I remember these dudes randomly putting cameras under the fence and just shooting like this, hoping to get somebody. And I thought, oh, my gosh, that is so. And by the way, there are a lot of people go like, oh, well, that. You know, that's the price you pay for fame and all that kind of bullshit. And you're like, oh, yeah, that's pretty rough, man. Like, you don't have a second.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah, it can be really tricky. And you learn to kind of, like, live a certain way. Like, I don't go out all that much, you know, And I know where I can go. Yeah. To this day. And I have my, like, very small group of friends, and they come over or we do things, or we go on trips. But even when we go on trips, it's very curated, and you have to learn because it's just. It's part of it.

[Sean Hayes]

Jason calls photographers. He lets them know they have his schedule. They have access to his iCal.

[Jason Bateman]

They never show and they never show. What about now? That sort of surgical masks are so sort of like, accepted in public and so commonplace now. Do you ever enjoy that level of, you know, sort of finding anonym?

[Jennifer Lopez]

People always know it's me, and I feel stupid. Like, if I put on a hat, like, too long, it's like, is that JLo?

[Will Arnett]

You know what I mean?

[Jennifer Lopez]

It's like, stupid. I put a mask on, they even recognize my voice. Sometimes if I'm just talking in a store, like, I'll see people creep around the aisle like they heard me talking or something. I'm like, hi, did your friends call

[Sean Hayes]

you JLO when you were a kid growing up?

[Jennifer Lopez]

No, no, not at all. Not at all. That was something that I always credit Heavy D. I don't know if you

[Will Arnett]

guys remember Heavy Dude.

[Jennifer Lopez]

He's a rapper. Back in the day, and we all. All the Sony artists, there was a place called the Hit Factory here in New York.

[Sean Hayes]

Yep.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And all of us recorded there. A lot of people recorded there. It was a big studio, and we'd always. People would always come in and out, you know, to other people's studios. And I met Heavy at that time, and. And he was. He just always used to call me Jenny Lo. He's like, J. Lo. Jenny Lo. And I was like, I think I'm gonna call my next album J. Lo. You know, I love that.

[Will Arnett]

I think it's just so cool.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah. And that's kind of how it happened. It was really very simple. It just stuck.

[Jason Bateman]

When did Jenny from the Block come?

[Sean Hayes]

Well, I was gonna get to Jenny from the Block. Yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

What was the next album? So that JLo was my second album. My first album was on the six, and my third album was this Is Me then. And that had Jenny from the Block on it.

[Sean Hayes]

Do you know you spawned. How many people in the world probably refer to their friends Jennifer as Jenny from the block? Like, we have a friend.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Oh, my God.

[Sean Hayes]

Right?

[Jennifer Lopez]

You do come across. But also, they all do their names. Oh, my. People call me Ado or.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, right.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Like, they put their name together and stuff like that.

[Will Arnett]

Jason would be jba.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah. You'd be J. Jb. Jb. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

And you're Siha. It doesn't work.

[Will Arnett]

Doesn't work, doesn't work. It's gonna roll off the tongue. So. But getting back to when you were first starting, because I think it's fascinating that you went from the time frame of In Living Color, which was, you know, its own story, which we could probably talk about forever, but In Living Color to Money Train to Selena. At that time, you really had to prove yourself as an actress, and you probably worked hard to do that. Right. What did that period feel like when you look back on it, where you're like, wait, how do I trans? How do I get people to take me seriously from dancing on In Living Color to being an actress?

[Jennifer Lopez]

Well, it's funny. My very first movie was a movie called My Family, Mi Familia, which Greg Nava did. And it had Edward James Olmos. And that was the very first time I worked with him. And I played the young matriarch in the movie. And right from that moment, I think people seeing that little piece of tape, that really helped make the transition because it was a great little role. And I had to, like, cross the river from Mexico into the thing, and I'm, like, swimming and I'm like, I'm actiony and I'm crying with the baby. And it was, like, a great little juicy. It was a small role, but it was just the. And with that piece of tape, people were like, oh, she can act. She's an actress. And I was. And I had worked on it before. I did my first movie. I studied it, acting all throughout. And Living Color really brought me out to Los Angeles, and that's when I started, like, taking classes all the time and reading all the books and doing all the things.

[Sean Hayes]

I love that you did. And then you did. God, I remember. This movie holds up. I love it so much. You're so great in out of Sight.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Oh, thank you.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, my gosh.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, you were so. That movie is so good. So, so good. Oh, you're so good in that. It's such a great movie, you know.

[Jason Bateman]

Really is.

[Sean Hayes]

You really dragged Clooney along, you know, because. No, you did.

[Jason Bateman]

You launched. You launched something there.

[Sean Hayes]

You made Clooney look good. And I don't care if he hears

[Jason Bateman]

this and that Soderbergh character.

[Sean Hayes]

And Soderbergh, too. Yeah, yeah. Steven, too. You really helped those guys out.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah, I really helped him out.

[Sean Hayes]

No, but talk about that movie, if you will, just a little bit, because that was, like, a real. That movie, like, really went, like, huge. She knows what she's doing.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, I mean, you already were, but,

[Jennifer Lopez]

yeah, I was excited. Listen, I got really lucky in the beginning of my career to work with, like, some really great directors. Steven Soderbergh, Oliver Stone, Francis Ford Coppola. Like, I worked with Robin Williams. Like, there was. It was a really beautiful, beautiful beginning to an acting career for me, for sure. Yeah. And working on out of Sight, it was funny. The thing I remember the most about out of Sight was one of the things that Steve's on because we had, like, one of the most epic nights ever, singing musical theater. I think I was singing to him and telling him I was gonna be a singer. And he was like, yeah, right. I was like, I am. I am. I'm working on my album right now. Like, I was so young and kind of, like, goofy and whatever, and he. But I also remember, like, the auditioning process for that and going. I remember the last. Like, I read for Stephen, and he was like, I think I like these. Talking to George. Like, I like this girl, Jennifer Lopez to play this role. And he was like, okay. And they had me go do, like, a chemistry read, and I had to drive to George's house, and I remember getting there and there was a pig in the front yard. I was like, this is some real Hollywood shit. This is some weird stuff.

[Jason Bateman]

And Richard kind collecting the mail.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah, he had his pig. And we were there and we, you know, we read like on the couch together. Literal casting couch. And we were. Just had this chemistry that really worked and Stephen just loved it. And I got the role and I was so happy because it was a really great role as well.

[Jason Bateman]

Did you get it there in the room or did you.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah, by the time I got home, they had called my agent and said that, you know, they wanted me.

[Sean Hayes]

Oh, that's so nice.

[Will Arnett]

That's great.

[Jason Bateman]

How do you. With so much ability across, you know, mediums how. And anything that you basically declare you're going to do, it's going to finally find financing and it's going to find an audience. How do you decide what to do if. If, if. If anything is a viable direction? Like, I mean, you could. You could start a musical tomorrow or you could do another album or you could, you could finance. You could start a movie. You could, you could act in that movie. Direct that movie.

[Sean Hayes]

You could open a game.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, you could start like a cupcake score store down the street that would become.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I do have. I do have Cookie double that. I would think I called J Do.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, for real.

[Jennifer Lopez]

That is the best chocolate cookies in the world. And one day I'm gonna make this. I'm gonna share it with the world because it's so cool.

[Sean Hayes]

But you don't sell. You don't sell it yet.

[Jennifer Lopez]

No, no, that's great.

[Jason Bateman]

That's a mistake.

[Sean Hayes]

We can announce it today.

[Jason Bateman]

Leave the money on the table to

[Will Arnett]

be J Dog, Chuck, Chip, Cookie, truly.

[Jason Bateman]

So how do you decide where to point your energy and your.

[Jennifer Lopez]

You know, it's funny you asked that question, because I don't think. I think one of the things about my career and sometimes, you know, there's. In any long career, there's ups and downs. You. You swing for the fences and you, you know, fail. And then there's times when it's just like, you know, it just. You just hit it out of the park. And right now I think I just didn't ever realize that I had that kind of power. I always felt again, like the scrappy one kind of trying to.

[Jason Bateman]

And erring on the side of humility and not assuming some till you're sure. I think that's a healthy place to be.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And it did serve me in certain ways, but in other ways, I always felt like whatever I got was good. Enough. Instead of going, wait a minute, is this the right thing to do right now? Or is that the right. It was just kind of like, work, work, work, work, work, work, work. I'm working, I'm working, I'm working. And I think it wasn't just. Just now as I'm. My kids are about to leave to college in about a few months.

[Will Arnett]

They're both 18.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Don't make. Make me cry. Okay.

[Sean Hayes]

Wow.

[Jason Bateman]

I'm with you.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah. And they're twins, so they're both leaving at the same time. It's gonna be me by myself. And I'm looking at, like, what I really wanna do. And for the first time in my life, I've. I've really taken more control of exactly what you're saying. Like, what do you really wanna do? Like, do you wanna direct? Do you wanna do musicals? What have you not done that really feels fulfilling to you? Because I actually have realized. Realize that I do have that. That I have earned that over these years. And. And I should be very. I want to be very intentional about what I do over these next four or five years.

[Sean Hayes]

You can take agency over your own life and.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And also, like, give myself a pat on the back, which I never did. I never do, and I never did.

[Sean Hayes]

You should go.

[Jennifer Lopez]

You know what? You. You created this. That little girl with, like. I always say this, with like, holes in her shoes in the Bronx. You know what I mean? In my. I wear my sneakers down where this part of my foot was out all the time. I'm sure that's going to be a meme.

[Jason Bateman]

If I asked you right now, what do you. What do you really love and value most in your life? I'm sure that you would say your kids. But if I. If I. If I narrowed that to what your. What your career represents for you, what it just sort of in a pursuit of, like, trying to find an answer for what you would want to do next or your next chapter to be. What is it you enjoy the most that you. That your career has provided you? Is it. Is it respect? Is it.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Is endless possibility?

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, I think it's the.

[Jennifer Lopez]

That that I have opened up an. An avenue for myself where there's endless possibility and I can really create a new dream right now for myself.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And. And. And I just moved into a new house. Like, everything in my life has changed over the past couple years. I moved into a new house. House.

[Will Arnett]

What happened? I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Oh, that's for another time.

[Jason Bateman]

It's a different podcast.

[Jennifer Lopez]

That's a different.

[Sean Hayes]

Right, right, guys, keep rolling, guys, keep rolling, Keep rolling.

[Jennifer Lopez]

You come over, we have a glass of wine, and you come to the new house. And it's amazing. And I, like, built my little corner of the world dream house. I got my kids some horses. We have stables.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, that's great.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I was like, please come home. Please come back home to your horses. There's horses here. And just really thinking about, like, with all this change, it's actually been a very emotional time for me where, yes, I'm crying because they're leaving, but I'm also, like, staring down, like, what is my life now? The past 20 years, it's been one thing. The past five years has been a tumult, you know, and then the last two years has been kind of the healing process from that tumult where I really got to know myself and the person I am today is so different than the person I was even two years ago.

[Jason Bateman]

It's crazy.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And now I can really look at my life, appreciate it for what it is and what I've created for myself and be really happy. And both my kids got into all their colleges and they both got scholarships and they're going where they want to go, and. And it's just, I was like, you did that shit all by yourself.

[Jason Bateman]

That's great.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Like, you had very little help, you know.

[Jason Bateman]

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[Sean Hayes]

I was just going to say I think it's awesome that you, the way that you talk about it and you seem so sort of clear headed and calm, knowing we sort of joke about it, about how much people perceive or think that they know about your life and what you've gone through and all that kind of stuff. And that's you have to kind of put that in a weird place because you. Right. That people have this sort of thing that they think and then you. But you have to actually go through it. And like you said when you started, like, you're just a human being and people forget that. You know what I mean? It's so crazy to me because we don't really understand other people's experiences unless we walk in their shoes.

[Jason Bateman]

Right. And there's also. I think. I think. I don't mean to cut you off, Willie, but I do think we're all aware of. And some of us are friends with some people that have like. Like this enormous level of celebrity and exposure that actually enables the ability for. Enables them to stay exactly who that is for kind of as long as they want. In other words, there's this real permissive culture around celebrity and you don't kind of have to be the best part of you, and you don't have to grow. Like, you know what you just said, Jennifer, that, you know, the past two years has been about the healing and that you're so different now than you were even. Even two years ago, five years ago. Do you recognize that that can be a real accomplishment for somebody in your position? Like, I think that's a real great attaboy that you've clearly put in time and work and self reflection and you could have just kind of just kept eating the junk food of the permissive culture around you and just kind of lean back. But it sounds like you're leaning into, who am I going to be for this next chapter? What have I learned? Et cetera, et cetera.

[Jennifer Lopez]

100%. Again, there's been different times where I felt like whether people outside knew it or not, where I feel like my life blew up in my own face. And it was because of the choices I made, but also because of the fact that I had things that needed to change about myself that I didn't understand or recognize that was attracting certain things and attracting a certain type of experience into my life. And I really needed. Honestly, it's that thing where. And you can go either way. You're right. It is a choice. So I want to give myself that credit too. But there comes a point where it's all so puzzling and wrong, where you have to sit there. And after my last divorce, I. I just sat there and I was like, I canceled my Torah and I sat there and I was just like, you need to fucking figure yourself out what is going on with you. Forget about everybody else. There's nobody to Blame here except yourself in a certain way. Not that people don't behave in a way that's not great, but what are you doing? What do you have going on? And that was a turning point for me. And that was a couple of years ago now.

[Sean Hayes]

I, I did the same thing about two, three years ago. I will, I've. Maybe I've told you guys this in, in, in private before, but I had a moment before I got into real therapy a couple years ago where one day I was making coffee in the morning and I swear to God. And I went, I remember distinctly what was happening.

[Jason Bateman]

Oat milk.

[Sean Hayes]

Not the date.

[Jason Bateman]

Oat milk.

[Sean Hayes]

Oat milk. And I remember, and I, and I went, I said out loud to myself, it's you, right? And I had this real. I was like, oh my God, I need to do some work. I go, it's me.

[Jennifer Lopez]

But by the way, everybody needs to do that at some point in your life.

[Jason Bateman]

By the way, everybody goes through this. I mean, it's all sort of relative.

[Jennifer Lopez]

It's part of being human. Right.

[Jason Bateman]

Being human is we all have things that blow up.

[Jennifer Lopez]

We get these parents, they do the best they can or they do as much as they can. They form certain parts about ourselves. And then our journey is kind of the undoing and the healing of those things, of the patterns that, that created. And so in doing and looking at those patterns, I was able to kind of like go back to that little girl and really look at her and go, that little seven year old girl, like I said, with the ripped nightgown. Like I can see her right now with it. Like my hair was like up to here and it was about the same color, you know what I mean? 30ft walking around barefoot all the fucking time.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

And I was like, you're barefoot now.

[Jennifer Lopez]

You, you. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Just bad

[Jennifer Lopez]

still. Nothing's changed still Jenny from the block and, and just kind of like going, you did this?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

You, you did all this.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Give yourself a little something, like a little love.

[Will Arnett]

Right?

[Jennifer Lopez]

Stop looking for love and other things.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And give it to yourself.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

There's so much to love in you. Yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah, yeah. And you don't see it because you're in this business and everybody's telling you you're bad at this and you're bad at that and they're scrutinizing, criticizing your personal, your professional life and you're not doing this enough or you didn't choose that Right. Movie or that song didn't do as good as the last one. And you're like, and it plays on you, and it plays on those places that. That were reinforced when you were younger of, like, whatever it is, the impressions that were made on you because of the way you were loved or cared for in different ways. And it's just. It's all so intertwined. And I find it very interesting and I love it because I really do believe people are capable of change because I've experienced it same.

[Jason Bateman]

And a lot of that fuel for change comes from that self love. But that self love is often so hard for all of us to kind of recognize and utilize because it's hard to see because we're living with ourselves every day. You know, you kind of get used to some of the things that you really should be taking a second to be pleased with about yourself. It's like you can't see your own hair grow, right? Like, you see yourself every day.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I understand what it is to love yourself, like, to understand to whatever you want. And I think having kids for me changed a lot of that because I really realize whatever I want to give them, like, why wouldn't I give that to myself, Right?

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Why don't I appreciate those things about. Why don't I? You know, if you want respect from people, you have to respect yourself. Those are actions, right? Like, those are real, tangible things and being. My sister said to me once, Linda, who I think is so smart, and she was like, when are you going to be your own keeper? You keep everybody. You take care of mom, you take care of me, you take care of the kids, you take care of everybody who works for you. You take care. When are you gonna be your own keeper? And I was just like, yeah, and these are all little pieces. I feel like the journey is like pieces, pieces, little puzzle pieces that you fit in little by little as you, like, sit there with the oat milk and go, it's me.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

This fucking thing that just happened me.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, right.

[Sean Hayes]

And, you know, you mentioned the kids. I sort of realized also that, like, that act of the way that we love our kids for, my experience is that act of being loving to them allows. The reason it feels so good is because you're generating that and then you get it back. And it's when you close off and you don't act in a loving way. Pushing. I find the more I push out, the more it comes back. And so, like, with my kids, that that's why it feels so good because you're creating that as opposed to kind of rolling up the window on it. Do you Know what I mean? I don't know.

[Jennifer Lopez]

No, I agree. And the kids are a great learner. But relationships are great kind of learning grounds as well, where you really get to face yourself. If you get lucky enough to be with somebody who actually really cares and loves about you in the right way, there's a lot you can learn from each other, even if things don't work out. You know what I mean? But, Jason, I'm sorry I cut you off. I was just like. Had to get that thought out.

[Jason Bateman]

No, no, I was kind of done. I was just. Just saying it's. It's a dumb metaphor or analogy not being able to recognize your own hair growing because we see ourselves in the mirror every single day. But if you don't see somebody for a few weeks, oh, your hair's gotten long. Your hair's got long.

[Jennifer Lopez]

You have a beard.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, right. Like you can't really see the things inside of you that you probably should be.

[Sean Hayes]

You've got the greatest. You've got the greatest hair of all time.

[Jason Bateman]

I was trying to back into a combo.

[Sean Hayes]

Thank you. Jason's got the greatest hair.

[Jennifer Lopez]

They really do.

[Sean Hayes]

He's got the greatest. It's unbelievable. You know what, Jennifer? You want to know something? He hasn't put a comb or a brush in it since he was 11. That's a true story.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Stop. Stop.

[Will Arnett]

And he doesn't color it.

[Sean Hayes]

He doesn't color it.

[Jason Bateman]

Also true.

[Sean Hayes]

He's so handsome.

[Jason Bateman]

Guys.

[Will Arnett]

You know, I mentioned it before, Jen. It's like, you know, the. Well, maybe I didn't mention. I think I mentioned in the intro where you left home when you were really young and you slept in a dance studio or something. I did as a girl.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I have done the craziest things.

[Will Arnett]

I know, but don't you look back at that with thing we're talking about now and giving yourself and loving yourself, looking at that and going, wow. I was sleeping on the floor of a studio on my own, not even living at home, and look what I've done. Like, it's kind of. It's just mind blowing.

[Jennifer Lopez]

It's crazy because my mom and dad, like, I was about to start college, or I had just done a semester of college, and I was just like, I had a dream that I'm gonna be in church. Show business. And they were like, we lived in the Bronx. We, you know, they were like this crazy. And I was just like, no, dad. And my mom was like, you're not dropping out of college. You are crazy. You know how much we do. So you can go to college. And my dad was like, did you have a dream? Really? I said, daddy, I did. I really did. Anyway, the next few months was tumultuous and I wound up leaving the house and I kept. I kept skipping. I stopped going to class at college and I was going to the dance studio and literally taking class all day. I just.

[Will Arnett]

To be a lawyer.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Fallen in love with it. I was. Yeah, I wanted to be a lawyer. I worked in a law office for a few years during high school and I was like, really good with numbers and taxes and things like that. And I don't know, I just could feel I was just good at it. And they loved me and I. And I just was on this track to be a lawyer and I was going to apply to law school, whatever.

[Will Arnett]

What?

[Jennifer Lopez]

I don't know.

[Will Arnett]

Anyway, yeah, I mean, it's wild to know that.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah, yeah. It didn't happen. And I decided to like, go sleep on the dance floor. I needed somewhere to go and me and my mom had a big falling out and I called the dance teacher and I said, you know, can I come stay? I'll sleep on the couch at the dance studio. And he said, yeah. Wow.

[Will Arnett]

It's crazy.

[Sean Hayes]

Wow.

[Jennifer Lopez]

He liked me. But. Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Do you still have a talent for numbers and. And bookkeeping and that types of things? Like are you involved with your. Or do you just kind of just let you just.

[Jennifer Lopez]

No, I'm smart about it, but I. And I've always been very attuned with my business managers, like not to let my money get away from me.

[Jason Bateman]

But you're not like playing the markets and like, you know, looking on the

[Jennifer Lopez]

stock pages and like, I do some investing here.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

Because like, some people I know, they really like, they handicap companies, kind of like horses and they really follow that.

[Jennifer Lopez]

No, I don't, I don't, I don't. But. And I. I left that behind and probably can, you know, do multiplication now. My kids. Math is too hard for me when I try to help them.

[Jason Bateman]

But you know what I just read the other day?

[Sean Hayes]

This should be good.

[Will Arnett]

The Giving Tree.

[Sean Hayes]

A page of a book.

[Jason Bateman]

They don't teach curses anymore in school. I just haven't done for like the last few years.

[Will Arnett]

I know. Why is that?

[Jason Bateman]

Well, I guess because typing is such a big problem.

[Will Arnett]

I know, but like. But at some point anymore, right? But you gotta sign your name and stuff exactly.

[Jason Bateman]

Like, what is it they teach them

[Jennifer Lopez]

their name in kindergarten, I think. And that's it?

[Will Arnett]

And that's it. We're done. Next.

[Sean Hayes]

How's everybody's handwriting self assessment on your handwriting?

[Jason Bateman]

It's terrible because you don't get to practice it, but I know how my

[Will Arnett]

brain works faster than my hand, so I can't.

[Jennifer Lopez]

You know, I also, when I have to write a birthday card, I'm like, this is horrendous. Wait a minute. Like, I cross shit out. It's crazy.

[Sean Hayes]

Do you do all caps? Do you do all caps?

[Jason Bateman]

I do, like, a hybrid. It's terrible.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah, me too. It's a hybrid.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jennifer Lopez]

What's happening?

[Jason Bateman]

Start every sentence in cursive and then end up going just for legibility alone. I want people to understand what the hell I'm writing.

[Jennifer Lopez]

That's so true.

[Will Arnett]

Okay, so this is like, I'm going to. Just. Because we're all almost at speed, round,

[Sean Hayes]

speed, round, speed, round, speed.

[Will Arnett]

So we're going to do, like a little tiny something. Speed round. If, if. If you

[Jason Bateman]

introduce to the podcast your

[Will Arnett]

music career, which is just massive. And I've been to. I know every other song that you've ever recorded, and I just think it's incredible. I. I mean, what you've accomplished, you

[Jennifer Lopez]

know, it's pretty insane. I just had a number one dance record, like, weeks ago. Yes. Yeah. I had a new record out called Save Me Tonight, and I went and I performed it at Coachella, and after that, like, went to number one.

[Will Arnett]

That's amazing.

[Jennifer Lopez]

It's amazing.

[Will Arnett]

It is amazing.

[Jason Bateman]

Had you done Coachella before?

[Jennifer Lopez]

Never. It was my first time at Coachella.

[Jason Bateman]

Was it. Was it a. Was it a freaky big experience or was it.

[Jennifer Lopez]

It's massive. It's big and it's. I'd never been. I didn't know what it was like or whatever, but you have all these people and I, I. And I hadn't done a dance record in a long time, and David Guetta had this record and I. I was. I was going out on tour last summer to do, like, a little limited tour overseas, and I was like, I need some new songs. Like, I'm tired of performing the same old songs. So I did like five, by the way.

[Will Arnett]

We're not tired of this song.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Thank you. I still do them. I still do them. But I did, like, five new records. Three or four. Like, four. Yeah, Four or five new records. And I put them in the show just for that. And this one kind of popped off, and so we released it a couple months ago or something.

[Jason Bateman]

And what about videos? People still make videos, right?

[Jennifer Lopez]

They do, they do, but it's not the same. Yeah. I don't really even feel like I need to sometimes.

[Sean Hayes]

Do you guys, do you have to pay for them?

[Jennifer Lopez]

I do, I do, yeah. Because it's. It's different. Like when I started, they'd spend millions of dollars on videos. Like a million dollars, two million dollars with videos, you know, Michael Jackson, Jen used to do like $7 million. But now because of streaming and how the record business has changed since I started, it's like a whole different world. You have to shoot them on your iPhone yourself. 100,000 bucks. They. Sometimes they give you 75. It's. It's really a different thing.

[Jason Bateman]

And that's to promote the album that

[Sean Hayes]

you have a limit probably through social media too.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, Right. And it's. And it's not even your album. It's the labels album and your. The way the music industry runs nowadays. Correct me, Most of the income for the artist comes from touring as opposed to album sales. Is that right?

[Jennifer Lopez]

Absolutely, yeah.

[Will Arnett]

Now, speaking of touring, you toured forever. You did, obviously, massive, massive shows your whole life. You know, I love horrible theater stories. You might not know this, but gimme something that happened on a tour that just went horribly wrong. That's funny.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Well, I don't know if you saw this. This. It was.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, yes, I know what you're gonna say. I know what you're gonna say.

[Jennifer Lopez]

The thing on my neck, did you see it?

[Will Arnett]

No, I saw. No, I thought you're gonna say when you fell.

[Jennifer Lopez]

No, that. That happened. But that wasn't on tour. That was on television.

[Will Arnett]

Oh, that's right.

[Jennifer Lopez]

And it ran on CNN for the next three days. My coccyx was on fire.

[Sean Hayes]

Right.

[Jennifer Lopez]

It was just like. It was awful. But no, I was gonna say this summer on tour. I was, I was.

[Jason Bateman]

I just wrote three. Three jokes. Sorry, I'm not doing any of them. There's a coccyx on fire and we take pills for it and all this stuff. Never mind.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yes. This summer when I was on tour, I don't remember where I was. Oh, God. Which actual date it was, but I was there. And I might have been in Spain because I was singing a Spanish song and it was like the slow moment in the show. Usually I'm dancing around and doing the choreography and like a fucking bikini and a G string and whatever, right? Whipping my hair around and it's a good time and same, same, same, same. Yeah. And so I'm standing there fully dressed and I have this thing on. It's like outfit on and I'm singing and it's really quiet. It's just A spotlight on me. And I don't know, like, all during the show, I was seeing, like, little bugs and things around, but, you know, we're outside of this.

[Will Arnett]

I did see this.

[Jennifer Lopez]

They're attracted to the light, and so everything is dark except for me. And I'm singing. And as I'm singing, the audience starts screaming. And usually they do react in this moment because I stop and it's a slow song, and they usually clap and whatever. Before I do the little last line, I do, like, a dramatic pause, but this time they're clapping a lot and screaming. And I was like, what's happening? And I'm just there, and this huge bug is just crawling up my neck, and I feel it. And I thought it was hitting me and going away and hitting me and going away, but when you see the thing, it's just. It starts, like down here, and it just goes. And it lands up right here. And I just feel it a little bit. But I was. I just stayed really still and I finished the song, the last line, and then I just go, go. And I kind of. And it flies into the light like that. And I saw it and I was like, what the fuck was that? Fucking helicopter. It looked like a helicopter. It was crazy.

[Will Arnett]

I love that.

[Jennifer Lopez]

But that was crazy. But it was kind of horrible. Like, if I would have known it was that, I probably would have been screaming and yelling and.

[Will Arnett]

Okay, three final little things. What's the most Bronx thing about you that's never left, no matter where life is taken?

[Jennifer Lopez]

I can't stand. Stop cursing. I try.

[Will Arnett]

Okay, great. I love that.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Potty mouth is terrible.

[Will Arnett]

And then I love it. And then, by the way, I'm telling you, you know this, Jen already. But I'm saying to Jason and Will. Did you guys know that Google Images is because of Jennifer Lopez?

[Sean Hayes]

What do you mean?

[Will Arnett]

That Google didn't have Google Images until that green Versace dress, and then everybody Googled it. So then Google's like, we don't have any anywhere for people to see images, a search engine. So they invented Google Images because of Jennifer Lopez. Isn't that wild?

[Jennifer Lopez]

Serge Sergey has, you know that? He's been asked that after that, he's like, yes, that is absolutely true. Jennifer. When she walked the red carpet in that dress, everybody wanted to have a picture of it. And we didn't have any Google search pics, anything. So we invented it.

[Sean Hayes]

Sue them. Sue them. They're so rich. Sue them.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I was like, don't I deserve some.

[Sean Hayes]

Sure. For sure. We got some good lawyers.

[Will Arnett]

Okay. And then we got to plug this because it's. I can't wait to see it. Office romance comes out June 5th on Netflix. Yes.

[Jennifer Lopez]

You.

[Will Arnett]

Brett Goldstein, he wrote it with you in mind, right? Yeah.

[Sean Hayes]

Super funny, Brett Goldstein.

[Jennifer Lopez]

He's funny, but I love his brand. His brand of, like, writing where it's, like, really kind of hard jokes, but with this wholesomeness at the end of the day. It's just. It's really. I think you guys will like this one.

[Will Arnett]

Okay, good. I can't wait to.

[Jennifer Lopez]

It's made for guys and girls, not just the romantic comedy for, like, girls.

[Will Arnett]

And then this is really cool. Edward James Olmos, who was your dad in Selena, is your dad in this movie?

[Jennifer Lopez]

He is. And I gotta tell you, when we. When we filmed with him and he walked. He walks in on this, like, board meeting, and it's the first time you see him. And when he walks in, like, all the cast and all the extras that were in the board meeting were like, you know, kind of like. He has such a commanding presence. But even more than that, when we screened it for the first time, and he walks in and his first line is, hot damn. With that really deep voice. And people just started clapping in the theater. And I think part because he was my dad and Selena, of course, but also because it's just like. It's Edward James Olmos, you know? And it was great. It was great to get to work with him again. He's amazing.

[Will Arnett]

And speaking of musicals, I love Kiss of the Spider Woman. I can't believe it was your first movie musical ever. You need to do more. And second of all, are you. I read somewhere you're going to do Bye Bye Birdie. But that was a while ago.

[Jennifer Lopez]

That was a while ago. That was a while ago. What you. Do you remember when they were doing, like, these musicals on tv?

[Will Arnett]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Carrie Underwood did one.

[Sean Hayes]

Are you asking if Sean remembers?

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, I was. I did Hairspray live with Ariana Grande and everything.

[Jennifer Lopez]

That's right. That's right. So when they did those, we. They were talking about doing Bye Bye Birdie, but then it kind of went away.

[Will Arnett]

Well, make it happen again.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I don't know. We'll see.

[Will Arnett]

You'd be great, right, Rosie? You'd be a great Rosie.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I would be a great Rosie. Trust me. I practiced all the songs.

[Will Arnett]

Well, they. What they could change it to. Everything is JLo.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah.

[Will Arnett]

All right. Well, honey, thank you so much for being here.

[Jennifer Lopez]

You guys are great. Thank you so much.

[Jason Bateman]

It was very cool of you to do this. Jennifer, thank you so much.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Not at all. Ever since you did it that one day and I walked into the podcast, I was like, I got to do that one day.

[Jason Bateman]

That's right. That's right.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure you're off to go do something. What are you doing in New York?

[Jennifer Lopez]

I was doing the upfronts. Right now I'm editing. I'm working on an edit for the. I just did a residency in Vegas and I did a new show, a brand new show, the JLo show, which you would love. Because what I did is combine my hits with musical theater inspirations of mine. I know it sounds like it would been. Have work, but it worked. Amazing.

[Will Arnett]

Wait, but, but it's, but it's a, it's. It's. It's a residency where you.

[Jennifer Lopez]

We filmed it for Paramount plus and for cbs and so I'm, I'm editing. We're editing that now.

[Will Arnett]

I can't wait to see that.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Yeah, I can't wait to.

[Jason Bateman]

Yeah, that's very cool. Busy as ever. Busy as ever. Keep going.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Singing, dancing show girl.

[Jason Bateman]

It's really so impressive. Jennifer. There he is. Keep going.

[Will Arnett]

Thank you.

[Sean Hayes]

It's amazing.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Are.

[Sean Hayes]

That's amazing.

[Jennifer Lopez]

So kind. Thank you.

[Will Arnett]

Yes. We'll see you soon.

[Jennifer Lopez]

I'll see you.

[Sean Hayes]

Bye Bye. Bye.

[Jennifer Lopez]

Bye.

[Will Arnett]

Bye, honey.

[Jason Bateman]

That's big star.

[Sean Hayes]

That's big star. Massive.

[Will Arnett]

Come on, tell. I mean, when I was, when I was reading about her, it's just. You go, oh, yeah. Oh wait. Yeah, oh wait.

[Sean Hayes]

She's not a star. That's a, that's a, that's a megastar.

[Will Arnett]

That's a mega star.

[Jason Bateman]

That documentary is pretty stunning. I mean, it takes you all the way through. Through it. Everything that she's done, who can do.

[Sean Hayes]

Who does all of it. Everything.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

But it's also so incredibly well earned. It's not, it's not because, you know, there's some sort of celebrity manipulation or something. She's. She's like, no, she does everything and does it at such a high level and people are, you know, paying for it and they're, they're supporting it and they're coming. Like she's just.

[Sean Hayes]

And she has this sort of, as I was saying, like this sort of this coolness and this calmness and this. And this like, no knows who she is clearly. Right. And is like so comfortable. And again, I was kind of getting at that thing of like, we all think that we know, right? And who people are. I remember, I remember watching, remember that Tiger woods documentary came out A few years ago and it started and I remember turning it off because I was thinking like, I don't think he wants me to know all this stuff. Do you know what I mean?

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, right, yeah, yeah, I just turned it off.

[Will Arnett]

Tiger woods wants you to know all that stuff.

[Sean Hayes]

But just anything about people when they. Any people just talking shit like we don't know anything about.

[Will Arnett]

I thought you were saying.

[Sean Hayes]

No, no, no. Until we hear from them what their experience, we don't really know.

[Jason Bateman]

And she does seem so purposefully aware of. Of her, of her beginnings, of her roots and is constantly staying in touch with the people that she surrounds herself with.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah.

[Jason Bateman]

And so that's, that's probably why she's so on it.

[Sean Hayes]

Shani. I mean, that was a great get.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, great get. And there's no way you would be lazy to work in the Bye Bye Birdie thing at the end there of your question.

[Sean Hayes]

I didn't even. He hadn't even thought about it.

[Will Arnett]

Now.

[Jason Bateman]

I think you've used Bye Bye Birdie before many times. We'll just wait. We'll wait for something a little bit better.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah, I know.

[Jason Bateman]

If you need a Google search or something.

[Sean Hayes]

Yeah. There's something that needs to come up. You know what I mean that you.

[Will Arnett]

Well, the by Birdie thing is real because she, she was.

[Sean Hayes]

No, we know it's real, but like maybe if there was something.

[Jason Bateman]

Set yourself up like that.

[Sean Hayes]

No. Yeah. You know what I mean? There's got to be some type away typing and just trying to think.

[Will Arnett]

Well, you guys know from her album this Is Me.

[Sean Hayes]

Sure. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Oh, my favorite.

[Will Arnett]

What do you.

[Sean Hayes]

You mean her 2002 record this is Me.

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, yeah, this is me then. Yeah. And you guys know this Is me now. Yeah, this is me now. Yeah, this is Me.

[Jason Bateman]

You have a favorite song from that?

[Will Arnett]

Yeah, it's so good. It's called Never. It's called Never Good.

[Jason Bateman]

Oh, you sneaky son of a. Bye

[Will Arnett]

Birdie, you're so bad.

[Sean Hayes]

Smart.

[Jason Bateman]

Less.

[Sean Hayes]

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[Will Arnett]

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