
Share your cookie-dough with the world! …It’s Jennifer Lopez. Reading all the books, doing all the things, endless possibility, and a little piece of tape. Plus more advice from Dr. Dingdong, on an all-new SmartLess.
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Jennifer Lopez
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Will Arnett
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Jason Bateman
Okay, this is Jason. I'm doing a cold open. I'm real snacky. It's carbohydrates. They're crunchy. They're salty. They're not good for me, but man, it feels good. Doesn't it feel good, gang? To do a nice crunchy, salty snack or do you like the gooey sweet ones? I don't know. Maybe a combo of both is great, right? But which do you start with? Which do you end with what do you put in between? I know what you put in between. You put in a nice, big, fat, well cooked episode of Smartless.
Will Arnett
Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom, yum, yum.
Jason Bateman
Welcome to Smartless.
Sean Hayes
Smart, Smart, Smart.
Jason Bateman
The stress, you know, guys, I can't have the stress. I, I, I, I, I, I lost my voice. And it's just. Now. Come back a little bit. I still have a little Brenda feeling.
Will Arnett
You screaming at people on the Knicks game.
Sean Hayes
Is it from the Knicks games or just. Yeah, screaming at people.
Jason Bateman
I think it was. It was a. It was.
Sean Hayes
I want my chair over here.
Jason Bateman
My. It was. I think it was a cold or it might have been allergies. No, I mean, yeah, it started. It started. Yeah, it started in my throat, and it went to my nose, and then it landed on my vocal cords.
Sean Hayes
You're a little fr. Is a little fragile. Is the first time we're meeting the
Jason Bateman
real JB right now. And I was a little frazzled getting to Mike today. Because that's what we call it, right? Getting to Mike.
Will Arnett
Getting to Mike.
Jason Bateman
I'm sure. Because I wanted to have my teeth brushed for you. Do you guys brush your teeth for me?
Will Arnett
Of course. Always.
Sean Hayes
No, not me.
Jason Bateman
You don't.
Will Arnett
Don't you brush your teeth? I'll look at his teeth.
Jason Bateman
Did you. Did you sleep with a whitener on too long last night?
Sean Hayes
No, I went to the.
Will Arnett
Look at that.
Sean Hayes
I went to the dentist yesterday, and he's like, I don't white my teeth. How about that?
Will Arnett
And you smoke. Shh.
Jason Bateman
And you drink coffee.
Sean Hayes
I don't drink coffee.
Jason Bateman
And you self tan.
Sean Hayes
Don't self tan. That's the one where. Don't make me mad. You and Kimmel. Kimmel. Nobody loves hitting me my tan more than Molly.
Will Arnett
But where does self tan mean? You just lays out.
Jason Bateman
That's like a cream. But where do you find the time? And how is it always so even Mr. Trump?
Sean Hayes
Well, you know. You know. You know what I do every day? I do my walk every day, and so that's like an hour.
Jason Bateman
I don't. I don't talk to me like I'm watching you doing your heavy hands. And you know, you know what my routine. Your Velcro, ankle weights. You know my routine is that with my weight vest.
Sean Hayes
Somebody took a picture of me with my weight vest yesterday on lom of I. Oh, really?
Will Arnett
I got to see that.
Jason Bateman
But will I spend a lot of time when I'm not working on the golf course? As we're aware. What that's that is. That's. That's five hours of sun exposure and I wear 100. So you're saying your 20 minute.
Sean Hayes
I don't wear.
Jason Bateman
Okay, that's what it is.
Sean Hayes
A. And B, I don't wear a bucket hat.
Jason Bateman
Right, so you wear no sun protection whatsoever. You're kind of bragging about that right now to get yourself that nice color. I'm not bragging about it. Cancer.
Sean Hayes
I'm not. First of all, fucking cool it. It's early for me to die, okay?
Jason Bateman
I've had. I've had skin cancer already. I had. I had something shaved off my. My. My eye. Remember that? Go in there and got it all scraped off.
Sean Hayes
I get checked. I have a friend of mine, and she's been giving me a lot of shit about sunscree.
Jason Bateman
Are these checks that you pay for or is it. You say a friend, like a.
Sean Hayes
Like a close friend of mine?
Jason Bateman
Does she check for ticks at the same time? And all those tough to find spots.
Sean Hayes
Whoops.
Will Arnett
Found another one. She just squeezes it out like a zit.
Sean Hayes
You're like. You're covered in ticks.
Will Arnett
But I found a couple leeches too.
Sean Hayes
I'm like.
Jason Bateman
So they have to remove the poison.
Sean Hayes
The ticks hit the tick.
Will Arnett
Oh, my God.
Jason Bateman
So wait, so you've got. You've got a. Yeah. Now you're getting into a sweat because you're thinking about all the possible risks you're taking.
Sean Hayes
I've also had four coffees today, so I'm having a coffee sweat.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
You know, we were at dinner the other night, jb, you were missed. I know you were missed. And Jen brought a photo up from our big family trip from a few years back where we went with all the kids and everything and.
Jason Bateman
God, I love that.
Sean Hayes
And there's a photo of all of us. And then my head sticking out the back. Remember how tan I was? And my hair is sticking up and then I've got zinc on my lips. And I look like a crazy person. Right, Sean?
Will Arnett
We passed around the photo and everybody had something to say about it.
Sean Hayes
And I've never seen it. No, I'd never seen it before. I was like, what is. I look like an insane. Yeah, you look like.
Will Arnett
You look like a predator.
Sean Hayes
Guys came to the island and found me there. Like I'd laid out, you know, I'd written in the sand. Sos.
Jason Bateman
We have to go back there. I know that, guys.
Sean Hayes
It'd be fun to go now with the kids a little bit older.
Will Arnett
Hey, how's it night? It's not it's fun being back for the weekend.
Jason Bateman
It's very nice to be back for the weekend. Yes.
Sean Hayes
I'm going to your Q and A, Jay, tomorrow at Netflix because I want to. I know that you're doing a Q and A session.
Jason Bateman
Right. Hey, what the hell are you doing there?
Sean Hayes
Well, I'm just going to go because I want to ask you questions about directing and stuff. I know you're giving, like, a thing.
Jason Bateman
Good.
Sean Hayes
And so I got an email from Netflix about it. Like, come join us. So I'm like, oh, I'm Wear the
Will Arnett
zinc on your nose so that when you hold your hand up.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Put a fake mustache and a hat. And then I'm going to sit in the back and I'll be like, I've got a question.
Jason Bateman
No, you should. You should play the crazy Italian guy from our podcast.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I love a black.
Sean Hayes
These brothers are crazy. You're unhinged.
Jason Bateman
I can't believe they sent you an invite.
Sean Hayes
No, actually, a different friend of mine got an email about it, and they sent it to me, and I was like, oh, fucking send me that. I want to go. I want to go show up and crash. How good. And then, you know what? I did have the thought. I was like, if I did it, then I make it about me. And I'm not going to go and do that.
Will Arnett
Why do you.
Sean Hayes
Please, please, please, do I do it enough? There's so many people listening right now who are nodding, going, I know you do make it about you. We hate your stupid stories.
Jason Bateman
But what about, like, yeah, so I'm here this weekend to do this. This. These interviews and stuff for. For DTF and for Black Rabbit. And it's all talking. It's all talking. It's, you know, including this podcast. And I was looking at, like, literally 36 hours ago. I. I couldn't. I could.
Sean Hayes
Everything was like this. I couldn't.
Jason Bateman
Oh, really? And I was like, oh, my God. I've got, like, five days of work ahead of me. That's just talking. Luckily, I got a little prednisone in me and. And an anab.
Sean Hayes
I was talking to our buddy who's doing Dog Day Afternoon. Not Jon Bernthal, but I was talking to. You guys. Know, Jon Ortiz is the best. He's a great actor, and he's a good buddy of mine, and he is on Broadway right now, and he has a really bad cold, and it's a night. He's like, it's a nightmare scenario.
Jason Bateman
I almost called you, Sean, because I knew you'd probably have some like fancy Broadway doctor that knows how to deal with vocal.
Will Arnett
Vocal stuff, always. I have two of the best boots.
Sean Hayes
Nose.
Jason Bateman
Wait, wait, is that. Wait, Sean, are you getting rid of paddles and going with boots?
Sean Hayes
Right now he's boots. Right now he's boots.
Jason Bateman
Oh, Boots McGee. Yeah, and Boots.
Will Arnett
Yeah, because I have a boot on. But speaking of, Sean's got a point
Sean Hayes
that he wants to make. I saw him. Who are you looking at off camera? Who's giving you the cue to go into it? Is it Scott?
Will Arnett
No, nobody.
Jason Bateman
Me.
Will Arnett
It's me. Okay, I'm looking at all of you. No, we have to go because our guest is super famous and she has to work.
Sean Hayes
Oh, sorry.
Jason Bateman
Okay. Yes.
Sean Hayes
Here we go. I should have got dressed up. I, meanwhile, got undressed.
Jason Bateman
Put your sleeves back on.
Sean Hayes
I'm gonna put a nice pashmina on.
Will Arnett
Oh, guys, my guest today, who I love and I live for, grew up in Castle Hill, New York, the middle of three sisters in an apartment.
Jason Bateman
Andrew Martin.
Will Arnett
So small they all shared a bed. There was always music in the house with constant reenactments of west side Story. I could do the whole thing with her.
Jason Bateman
Chenoweth.
Will Arnett
But her parents still hoped she'd become a lawyer. Instead, she left college to pursue dance full time. Left home and ended up sleeping in a Manhattan dance studio. Somewhere along the way, she taught Kerry Washington how to dance. I can't wait to ask about that. Then she became the first Latina actress ever paid a million dollars for a movie role. Briefly been on this podcast before. It's the beautiful, multi talented and unstoppable Jennifer Lopez. Lopez.
Sean Hayes
Yes.
Jason Bateman
Go away, Willie. Got it. Very nice.
Jennifer Lopez
A few.
Sean Hayes
No, when you said briefly and then I remember you briefly on yes.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. I was so close with Andrea Martin. God damn it.
Jennifer Lopez
So close.
Will Arnett
Oh, my God. Jen, what are you drinking?
Jason Bateman
Hi there.
Jennifer Lopez
A little cappuccino.
Will Arnett
Oh, nice.
Jason Bateman
Now, what do you go with for the milk on that? Are we almond? Are we oatmeal?
Will Arnett
I'm traditional.
Jennifer Lopez
I like a 2% milk. I know everybody's with fancy oats and almonds.
Will Arnett
Yes. Cow milk all the way.
Sean Hayes
Jason. Jason responds to that. You, beta.
Jason Bateman
Well, I know, but I feel. I got. I got word from one of those doctors back in the day that I'm. I'm lactose intolerant or bad with the dairy or something like that. Yeah. And so I've just. I've never had, like, cow milk since then. Plus I did see a documentary once where they said the very disgusting fact, which is humans are the only species that Drink the milk of another animal.
Sean Hayes
Right.
Jason Bateman
I don't think that. Like, that is weird, isn't it? That we drink milk.
Jennifer Lopez
It's weird. It is weird.
Will Arnett
I'm the same way. I don't care.
Sean Hayes
I know.
Jason Bateman
You drink full, tall glasses of milk.
Will Arnett
I don't care.
Jason Bateman
I know. It tastes so good. It tastes so good.
Will Arnett
Plus, but Jennifer Lopez is always working out and exercising and staying in good health so she can have milk in her coffee.
Jennifer Lopez
I try.
Sean Hayes
Right about that. It's not about that health, Sean.
Will Arnett
But I mean, you know, you have to. If you're going to do it, you kind of have to balance. It. Says Jennifer Lopez.
Jason Bateman
Says Dr. Ding Dong.
Sean Hayes
Very healthy. You look very, very healthy.
Jennifer Lopez
Thank you.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Arnett
Jen, thank you for doing this. I'm so exc. This is a long time coming for me. You've been on my list since we started.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, you.
Jason Bateman
Sweet.
Sean Hayes
Wow. This is exciting.
Will Arnett
It's true. And I know we kind of know each other, and I love you, too.
Jennifer Lopez
Do you dance together?
Will Arnett
Yeah. We worked together many times over the years on the Will and Grace. And something else, too. I can't remember what.
Jennifer Lopez
Did we.
Will Arnett
I think so.
Jennifer Lopez
You know what I realized? I'm so bad that, you know, you get to a point where you've done so much with so many people, and people are like, we did that like the other day. Don't hate me. I was watching Monster in Law.
Sean Hayes
Oh, my God.
Jennifer Lopez
And I forgot you were in it.
Jason Bateman
I'm gonna talk about that. That's what happens with him.
Jennifer Lopez
No, no, because it was just so long ago. I mean, I don't want to say how many years ago it was, but it was so long.
Jason Bateman
Wasn't that during Arrested Development? Willie, you did that.
Sean Hayes
That was 21 years ago. It was the summer of 2005.
Jennifer Lopez
21 years ago.
Jason Bateman
Wow. You know, Jennifer, as I'm admiring your beautiful printer in the background there, I then noticed that. Sean, you've moved the award. Didn an award?
Will Arnett
Yes, because you made fun of me
Jason Bateman
and I made fun of you. Moved it.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I did, but it's just right there. Both of them.
Jennifer Lopez
But.
Jason Bateman
But what about how Jen keeps it real? She's got a printer in the bedroom.
Sean Hayes
That's a biz.
Jennifer Lopez
I'm in a hotel.
Will Arnett
You are?
Jason Bateman
Where?
Jennifer Lopez
In New York. I was here for the upfront, so I just. Here.
Jason Bateman
No, but you know. You know, people, like, stack their awards behind them when they do zooms.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, I do.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
No, you don't.
Jennifer Lopez
But in my office at home, I have, like, a wall of all these
Will Arnett
Awards all behind me for the Zigran.
Jennifer Lopez
They're just there. And then you sit at your desk and they're there.
Jason Bateman
You've got so many, you can't point them.
Jennifer Lopez
Where are you gonna put them? Exactly, Jason, where are you gonna put them? In your office? There or. Yeah, by the way, they're in the basement.
Jason Bateman
Will's looking behind him. He can't fit him in the whisper booth.
Sean Hayes
I can't. There's not one. There's not one ojv.
Jennifer Lopez
Why? It's so dark in there.
Will Arnett
I know.
Jason Bateman
So that his tan.
Sean Hayes
This is my booth, but hang on a second, I'm gonna show you.
Jason Bateman
He's getting a nice bounce off, though.
Jennifer Lopez
The shorts.
Jason Bateman
I know the shorts.
Will Arnett
Like at some. At what age do you stop wearing shorts?
Sean Hayes
First of all, look at these.
Jason Bateman
Oh, that's a hockey glove.
Sean Hayes
These are special. Toronto Maple Leaves limited. Toronto Maple.
Jason Bateman
When is one of the Toronto Maple Leafs ever had a green hockey glove?
Sean Hayes
It used to be the Toronto Saint Pats when they first started. And then look at this. Jason, do you remember this? I've somehow kept this after all these years.
Jason Bateman
What is it? Is that the wanna maker from the PGA Championship?
Sean Hayes
It's called the VH1.
Jason Bateman
Oh, boy.
Sean Hayes
Big, big in 04. And we got. We went for arrested, and somehow I've kept this stupid huge trophy.
Jason Bateman
Wait, so we got one trophy and you got to keep it?
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Obviously everybody elected me because they were like, who's the Most deserving?
Jason Bateman
Is VH1 still going?
Sean Hayes
I don't know.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I think so. Hey, welcome to the show.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. Question for the guest, please, Sean.
Jennifer Lopez
No, not at all.
Jason Bateman
Gotta break in.
Jennifer Lopez
Let's just chit chat.
Will Arnett
Well, it's, you know, but it's the thing about, like, we worked together three times on Will and Grace, and the first time. God, did we laugh a lot. I mean, we did. I was kicking you in. Literally physically kicking you in the ass, jumping in between your legs and, like, dancing like fools. It was ridiculously hilarious. And you were so game. And I think you're so game for so many things. And, you know, in researching.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. So many things sometimes.
Will Arnett
No, no, no. But, you know, in doing all this research before today, you realize. Oh, I don't really. I've never done a deep dive on you. We always have chit chat and have a good time, you know, and laugh.
Sean Hayes
You never asked her anything important. You were just worried about yourself.
Will Arnett
That's right. I was always like, when's the next question about me? So before we get into it, I just Want to say, I realize doing all this stuff, how rare your kind of drive is, your work ethic, the ambition, the discipline you've been doing at such a high level for decades.
Jason Bateman
I mean, if you've seen her documentary, that documentary, I think I had a chance to run into you after I saw it and said how much I love it. It's so impressive. I mean, not only just well made, but the scope of it. I mean, your career is incredibly stacked.
Will Arnett
It's incredible.
Jason Bateman
I mean, non stop.
Will Arnett
And this is another thing we'll talk about later, but the thing you do for women in general, whether you do it intentionally or not, I'm sure some of it is intentional. You make them feel empowered. You show them that talent and beauty and sexuality. You can have all that at any age and, and you're fearless about all that. How aware of. Are you aware of how much permission that gives people? Or are you too busy working to even think about it?
Jennifer Lopez
I'll say this. When I was starting out and I had just started doing like my clothing line, so I had been acting for a while and dancing and singing for a while. Had my first records out and things like that. So this is, fuck, I don't know, 20 years ago, and I was working with a few girls in my office who are like friends who I just hired, you know, And I remember saying, like it was getting overwhelming and I said, I just, this is so fucking much. Why am I doing this? This is too much. And she goes, jennifer, if you can't. And I probably had just went through some breakup and fucking everything had blown up in my face again. You know what I mean? I was just like, I just don't know if I can go on. She goes, jennifer, if you can't do it, none of us can do it. And when she said that to me, I never forgot it. And I thought to myself, oh, people look at me a certain way, especially girls, like women.
Jason Bateman
Inspiration, for sure.
Jennifer Lopez
And it gave me a feeling of responsibility to do things right all the time.
Will Arnett
A responsibility you like or didn't want.
Jennifer Lopez
I don't mind it because I am a hard worker and I do have discipline. Like, I started running track when I was, you know, I don't know, eight or nine years old. And I was practicing every day. Like I always had kind of like an athlete's kind of drive and, and work ethic.
Sean Hayes
That makes sense.
Jennifer Lopez
So I, yeah, and, and I did track for a while, gymnastics. I played softball. Like I was very much an athlete before I, I fell in love with dancing Once I fell in love with dancing. Sports went out the window.
Will Arnett
Right? Because it is a sport.
Jennifer Lopez
It is a sport, and it was just an easy transition. But also because I grew up on musicals with my mom and all of that, and I loved them so much. It was like I always wanted to sing and dance and act, but when it took its natural time, I really, like, left everything behind and just fell in love with that. But that really made me feel. That exchange stayed with me even all these years later because it just made me feel like, don't fuck it up. Do the right things. People are watching you for whatever reason. Maybe because I was Puerto Rican and from the Bronx and came from similar places where all these people come from. I wasn't born in Hollywood and kind of that thing. And so there was a real.
Sean Hayes
Jason,
Jennifer Lopez
a real idea in my mind of you have to do things right. Don't.
Will Arnett
Don't fuck it up, you know, and work for it.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
And do it. Do it. Like, do the thing. Like, go for the. Go for it.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
What was first for you? Was it an example of someone who was just an incredible inspiration as far as their. Their accomplishments? Was that first, or was it being inspired by seeing an incredible dancer or musician or actor or when you. When you a little girl, what was the first thing that inspired you? Was it accomplishment or was it a specific talent?
Jennifer Lopez
No, it was the arts from when I was very little. I remember you brought up Rita Moreno and you brought up west side Story right before us. You were trying to guess who I was.
Sean Hayes
He always does. That's all he does. That's all he does is bring up Rita Moreno.
Jennifer Lopez
It really was Rita Moreno for me.
Jason Bateman
Oh, really?
Sean Hayes
Really?
Jennifer Lopez
Yes. Yes.
Jason Bateman
I did want her to be my mom. Watching an Electric Company. I said to my mother once when I was a tiny little kid, I said, I want her to be my mom.
Jennifer Lopez
Yes. Who wouldn't? And she's so amazing. The thing is, is like, my mom watched west side Story in the theater when it first came out, and she made us watch it every single year. I don't even remember the first time I saw it. Three years old, four years old, five years old. But I do remember watching it on TV one Thanksgiving because it came on once a year and thinking, that's what I want to do. I want to sing and dance and act. I want to dance around. I want to sing. And my mother was kind of that way as well, and very kind of vivacious, take over the room type of person. And I wasn't like that I was more like my dad. I was more quiet and kind of like to myself. But that part I had, like, I wanted to sing and dance and shake my ass too, you know, my mom
Jason Bateman
was like, just imagine you dancing and singing around like the living room and stuff like that. Like, like, like kids do. Because like, that's when we have no fear and no, no, no sense of. Of, you know, and like dance like
Sean Hayes
nobody's watching, you mean?
Jason Bateman
Right. But then there's that moment we all hit when we're about, I don't know, 10, 11 or something where you start to become aware of shame and embarrassment and what other people might be thinking. And there's that transition that. It's almost a sad transition that you see kids go through where they become self aware, but then, you know, you hope that they gather sort of coping skills to kind of have self assuredness and to kind of push through that and have their confidence take over and to be able to push through that. Do you remember that moment where you stopped kind of dancing like no one was watching and you were aware people were watching and we're able to push through that.
Jennifer Lopez
I think this is what makes me a little different. That I was never.
Jason Bateman
That never happened.
Jennifer Lopez
No. I was never afraid to make a fool of myself. That's like, I was always just like, it's fine. I fell down. And maybe that was part of the athlete part too. You know what I mean? Like, it was just like, you're gonna make mistakes, you're gonna fall, you're gonna do the. Like, I was ready. I'm like, get back up. Very scrappy.
Jason Bateman
Part of learning, part of success.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah.
Will Arnett
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Jason Bateman
And now back to the show.
Sean Hayes
I was thinking about when you started and really started to sort of break through and I kind of want to get into what that was because I'm not sure I really know what that thing was.
Will Arnett
I have questions about it.
Sean Hayes
Thank you. Sean. This is not your Time. I'd like to reclaim my time. Jennifer, I wonder if, you know, like, the moment when you broke through and you broke through on such a global level in such a way that is very, very rare, where everybody in the world knows who you are, and just bear with me that. That you have the moment where you. Where that kind of dawns on you. The level of recognition and fame and then you as a person, the gap of you catching up to that and being okay with that on that kind of a level. Do you remember that time? Was it a struggle kind of between you and.
Jennifer Lopez
Was the worst. It was. Honestly, it was the worst. It was. I had just done Selena and the movie came out, and I was still walking around, you know, Hollywood, like, going on auditions. Like, it was still that time.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
But it had just come out, and I was walking down the street, and for the first time, somebody was like, hey, hey. And they come running towards me, and I thought, motherfucker's gonna mug me. What. What the is going on right now? Like, I got really nervous, you know, and I was just, you know, like, any woman in the world, you know, we're threatened by other. So many things. Like, we're so scared all the time in a weird way. And I was just walking to the store from my apartment in la, and it was just so jarring to me. And then I realized they were like, I saw. I saw you in whatever. And I was like, oh, yeah?
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
I was like, I don't. But. But my thing was like, I don't know you. Like, I don't know you. Like, what are you doing? Like, back up. Don't touch me. I was so scared. And I remember it dawning on me, I was like, oh, you're not anonymous anymore. Your anonymity is gone.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
And I don't. And I think in my mind, I thought, you can't get that back. That's something that's lost forever. And I remember that's when I started having panic attacks and.
Sean Hayes
Oh, did you.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, it was a terrible time for me.
Will Arnett
Yeah. Can you talk about that when you were filming enough, right?
Jennifer Lopez
No, that was another time. That was when I overworked myself, when I didn't realize my limits.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Arnett
But I read about that in preparation for this, and that's fascinating to me because I love medical stories where you. Well, do you. Can you say what happened and why?
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. So that was the kind of getting used to, like, fame and realizing your life had changed in a way that you couldn't control anymore or go back you can't go back. They're always gonna know. Somebody will always have seen Selena, and somebody will always. And for whatever reason, that really freaked me out. And that took a minute. But what you're talking about is when I was doing enough. I think I had done like four movies in a row, and I had recorded my second album or something like that. So the JLo album, which was really big.
Will Arnett
Yeah, huge.
Jennifer Lopez
And what was like The J. The JLo album. And I was working, filming every day, as you guys know what that is, you know, all the hours. And then I would go into the studio at night, and then on the weekends, I, like, had junkets or video shoots or whatever. And I remember not clocking that I had worked like 98 days in a row without taking a day off.
Will Arnett
Right.
Jennifer Lopez
Because we went back and counted it. Cause we're like, what happened? And one day I'm sitting in the. On the set of Enough. It's actually kind of thinking about it. And I'm walking to the set every single time. And every time I walk to the set, I start getting a little, like a little pitter patter in my heart. Like it's like rising. And I go. And finally it got to the point I was like, I really feel nervous. And I had the little girl in Enough, and I was like, I'm sorry, sweetie. I feel a little weird today. I said, I feel a little tired or something. And she was like, it's okay. You're gonna be all right. You know, she's like going like this to my face. But I wasn't all right. And I went back to the trailer and I sat down, and all of a sudden, like, I just couldn't see. Like, it was almost like I couldn't see clearly. Like something just went over my eyes and I couldn't move. And one of my girlfriends, who was my friend since the second grade, was my assistant. And she was like, so she has to know. Like, she doesn't know what. She didn't really know what she was doing too much. But we loved dugging it out together and fig figuring it out and being together. And I said to her, arlene, I can't move. I can't see. She goes, stop it, Jennifer. You're scaring me. And I go, no, I really can't move. I said, no, I can't move. You should get somebody. And she's like, stop, stop. I said, get Bob, my security guard. And she got me. And I was like, I can't move and I can't see. And I couldn't move. I was just. Just paralyzed. And he picked me up and put me in the car. We went to the hospital, and it was crazy. And I said to the doctor, I said, am I going crazy? And he said, no, you're not crazy.
Will Arnett
It's exhaustion.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. He's like, you're. You shut down.
Sean Hayes
I remember. I remember. Speaking of monster in law, I remember we were shooting a couple days, like, downtown somewhere. And the level of attention. I remember you having to drive to set and they had to put blinders on the thing for you to drive into. And there were photographers on the roofs of the building across the street.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
And I remember thinking. And then. And they had the base camp set up in this parking lot downtown. And I remember these dudes randomly putting cameras under the fence and just shooting like this, hoping to get somebody. And I thought, oh, my gosh, that is so. And by the way, there are a lot of people go like, oh, well, that. You know, that's the price you pay for fame and all that kind of bullshit. And you're like, oh, yeah, that's pretty rough, man. Like, you don't have a second.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, it can be really tricky. And you learn to kind of, like, live a certain way. Like, I don't go out all that much, you know, And I know where I can go. Yeah. To this day. And I have my, like, very small group of friends, and they come over or we do things, or we go on trips. But even when we go on trips, it's very curated, and you have to learn because it's just. It's part of it.
Sean Hayes
Jason calls photographers. He lets them know they have his schedule. They have access to his iCal.
Jason Bateman
They never show and they never show. What about now? That sort of surgical masks are so sort of like, accepted in public and so commonplace now. Do you ever enjoy that level of, you know, sort of finding anonym?
Jennifer Lopez
People always know it's me, and I feel stupid. Like, if I put on a hat, like, too long, it's like, is that JLo?
Will Arnett
You know what I mean?
Jennifer Lopez
It's like, stupid. I put a mask on, they even recognize my voice. Sometimes if I'm just talking in a store, like, I'll see people creep around the aisle like they heard me talking or something. I'm like, hi, did your friends call
Sean Hayes
you JLO when you were a kid growing up?
Jennifer Lopez
No, no, not at all. Not at all. That was something that I always credit Heavy D. I don't know if you
Will Arnett
guys remember Heavy Dude.
Jennifer Lopez
He's a rapper. Back in the day, and we all. All the Sony artists, there was a place called the Hit Factory here in New York.
Sean Hayes
Yep.
Jennifer Lopez
And all of us recorded there. A lot of people recorded there. It was a big studio, and we'd always. People would always come in and out, you know, to other people's studios. And I met Heavy at that time, and. And he was. He just always used to call me Jenny Lo. He's like, J. Lo. Jenny Lo. And I was like, I think I'm gonna call my next album J. Lo. You know, I love that.
Will Arnett
I think it's just so cool.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. And that's kind of how it happened. It was really very simple. It just stuck.
Jason Bateman
When did Jenny from the Block come?
Sean Hayes
Well, I was gonna get to Jenny from the Block. Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
What was the next album? So that JLo was my second album. My first album was on the six, and my third album was this Is Me then. And that had Jenny from the Block on it.
Sean Hayes
Do you know you spawned. How many people in the world probably refer to their friends Jennifer as Jenny from the block? Like, we have a friend.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, my God.
Sean Hayes
Right?
Jennifer Lopez
You do come across. But also, they all do their names. Oh, my. People call me Ado or.
Will Arnett
Yeah, right.
Jennifer Lopez
Like, they put their name together and stuff like that.
Will Arnett
Jason would be jba.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. You'd be J. Jb. Jb. Yeah.
Jason Bateman
And you're Siha. It doesn't work.
Will Arnett
Doesn't work, doesn't work. It's gonna roll off the tongue. So. But getting back to when you were first starting, because I think it's fascinating that you went from the time frame of In Living Color, which was, you know, its own story, which we could probably talk about forever, but In Living Color to Money Train to Selena. At that time, you really had to prove yourself as an actress, and you probably worked hard to do that. Right. What did that period feel like when you look back on it, where you're like, wait, how do I trans? How do I get people to take me seriously from dancing on In Living Color to being an actress?
Jennifer Lopez
Well, it's funny. My very first movie was a movie called My Family, Mi Familia, which Greg Nava did. And it had Edward James Olmos. And that was the very first time I worked with him. And I played the young matriarch in the movie. And right from that moment, I think people seeing that little piece of tape, that really helped make the transition because it was a great little role. And I had to, like, cross the river from Mexico into the thing, and I'm, like, swimming and I'm like, I'm actiony and I'm crying with the baby. And it was, like, a great little juicy. It was a small role, but it was just the. And with that piece of tape, people were like, oh, she can act. She's an actress. And I was. And I had worked on it before. I did my first movie. I studied it, acting all throughout. And Living Color really brought me out to Los Angeles, and that's when I started, like, taking classes all the time and reading all the books and doing all the things.
Sean Hayes
I love that you did. And then you did. God, I remember. This movie holds up. I love it so much. You're so great in out of Sight.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, thank you.
Will Arnett
Oh, my gosh.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, you were so. That movie is so good. So, so good. Oh, you're so good in that. It's such a great movie, you know.
Jason Bateman
Really is.
Sean Hayes
You really dragged Clooney along, you know, because. No, you did.
Jason Bateman
You launched. You launched something there.
Sean Hayes
You made Clooney look good. And I don't care if he hears
Jason Bateman
this and that Soderbergh character.
Sean Hayes
And Soderbergh, too. Yeah, yeah. Steven, too. You really helped those guys out.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, I really helped him out.
Sean Hayes
No, but talk about that movie, if you will, just a little bit, because that was, like, a real. That movie, like, really went, like, huge. She knows what she's doing.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I mean, you already were, but,
Jennifer Lopez
yeah, I was excited. Listen, I got really lucky in the beginning of my career to work with, like, some really great directors. Steven Soderbergh, Oliver Stone, Francis Ford Coppola. Like, I worked with Robin Williams. Like, there was. It was a really beautiful, beautiful beginning to an acting career for me, for sure. Yeah. And working on out of Sight, it was funny. The thing I remember the most about out of Sight was one of the things that Steve's on because we had, like, one of the most epic nights ever, singing musical theater. I think I was singing to him and telling him I was gonna be a singer. And he was like, yeah, right. I was like, I am. I am. I'm working on my album right now. Like, I was so young and kind of, like, goofy and whatever, and he. But I also remember, like, the auditioning process for that and going. I remember the last. Like, I read for Stephen, and he was like, I think I like these. Talking to George. Like, I like this girl, Jennifer Lopez to play this role. And he was like, okay. And they had me go do, like, a chemistry read, and I had to drive to George's house, and I remember getting there and there was a pig in the front yard. I was like, this is some real Hollywood shit. This is some weird stuff.
Jason Bateman
And Richard kind collecting the mail.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, he had his pig. And we were there and we, you know, we read like on the couch together. Literal casting couch. And we were. Just had this chemistry that really worked and Stephen just loved it. And I got the role and I was so happy because it was a really great role as well.
Jason Bateman
Did you get it there in the room or did you.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, by the time I got home, they had called my agent and said that, you know, they wanted me.
Sean Hayes
Oh, that's so nice.
Will Arnett
That's great.
Jason Bateman
How do you. With so much ability across, you know, mediums how. And anything that you basically declare you're going to do, it's going to finally find financing and it's going to find an audience. How do you decide what to do if. If, if. If anything is a viable direction? Like, I mean, you could. You could start a musical tomorrow or you could do another album or you could, you could finance. You could start a movie. You could, you could act in that movie. Direct that movie.
Sean Hayes
You could open a game.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, you could start like a cupcake score store down the street that would become.
Jennifer Lopez
I do have. I do have Cookie double that. I would think I called J Do.
Will Arnett
Oh, for real.
Jennifer Lopez
That is the best chocolate cookies in the world. And one day I'm gonna make this. I'm gonna share it with the world because it's so cool.
Sean Hayes
But you don't sell. You don't sell it yet.
Jennifer Lopez
No, no, that's great.
Jason Bateman
That's a mistake.
Sean Hayes
We can announce it today.
Jason Bateman
Leave the money on the table to
Will Arnett
be J Dog, Chuck, Chip, Cookie, truly.
Jason Bateman
So how do you decide where to point your energy and your.
Jennifer Lopez
You know, it's funny you asked that question, because I don't think. I think one of the things about my career and sometimes, you know, there's. In any long career, there's ups and downs. You. You swing for the fences and you, you know, fail. And then there's times when it's just like, you know, it just. You just hit it out of the park. And right now I think I just didn't ever realize that I had that kind of power. I always felt again, like the scrappy one kind of trying to.
Jason Bateman
And erring on the side of humility and not assuming some till you're sure. I think that's a healthy place to be.
Jennifer Lopez
And it did serve me in certain ways, but in other ways, I always felt like whatever I got was good. Enough. Instead of going, wait a minute, is this the right thing to do right now? Or is that the right. It was just kind of like, work, work, work, work, work, work, work. I'm working, I'm working, I'm working. And I think it wasn't just. Just now as I'm. My kids are about to leave to college in about a few months.
Will Arnett
They're both 18.
Jennifer Lopez
Don't make. Make me cry. Okay.
Sean Hayes
Wow.
Jason Bateman
I'm with you.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah. And they're twins, so they're both leaving at the same time. It's gonna be me by myself. And I'm looking at, like, what I really wanna do. And for the first time in my life, I've. I've really taken more control of exactly what you're saying. Like, what do you really wanna do? Like, do you wanna direct? Do you wanna do musicals? What have you not done that really feels fulfilling to you? Because I actually have realized. Realize that I do have that. That I have earned that over these years. And. And I should be very. I want to be very intentional about what I do over these next four or five years.
Sean Hayes
You can take agency over your own life and.
Jennifer Lopez
And also, like, give myself a pat on the back, which I never did. I never do, and I never did.
Sean Hayes
You should go.
Jennifer Lopez
You know what? You. You created this. That little girl with, like. I always say this, with like, holes in her shoes in the Bronx. You know what I mean? In my. I wear my sneakers down where this part of my foot was out all the time. I'm sure that's going to be a meme.
Jason Bateman
If I asked you right now, what do you. What do you really love and value most in your life? I'm sure that you would say your kids. But if I. If I. If I narrowed that to what your. What your career represents for you, what it just sort of in a pursuit of, like, trying to find an answer for what you would want to do next or your next chapter to be. What is it you enjoy the most that you. That your career has provided you? Is it. Is it respect? Is it.
Jennifer Lopez
Is endless possibility?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, I think it's the.
Jennifer Lopez
That that I have opened up an. An avenue for myself where there's endless possibility and I can really create a new dream right now for myself.
Will Arnett
Yeah, for sure.
Jennifer Lopez
And. And. And I just moved into a new house. Like, everything in my life has changed over the past couple years. I moved into a new house. House.
Will Arnett
What happened? I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Jennifer Lopez
Oh, that's for another time.
Jason Bateman
It's a different podcast.
Jennifer Lopez
That's a different.
Sean Hayes
Right, right, guys, keep rolling, guys, keep rolling, Keep rolling.
Jennifer Lopez
You come over, we have a glass of wine, and you come to the new house. And it's amazing. And I, like, built my little corner of the world dream house. I got my kids some horses. We have stables.
Will Arnett
Oh, that's great.
Jennifer Lopez
I was like, please come home. Please come back home to your horses. There's horses here. And just really thinking about, like, with all this change, it's actually been a very emotional time for me where, yes, I'm crying because they're leaving, but I'm also, like, staring down, like, what is my life now? The past 20 years, it's been one thing. The past five years has been a tumult, you know, and then the last two years has been kind of the healing process from that tumult where I really got to know myself and the person I am today is so different than the person I was even two years ago.
Jason Bateman
It's crazy.
Jennifer Lopez
And now I can really look at my life, appreciate it for what it is and what I've created for myself and be really happy. And both my kids got into all their colleges and they both got scholarships and they're going where they want to go, and. And it's just, I was like, you did that shit all by yourself.
Jason Bateman
That's great.
Jennifer Lopez
Like, you had very little help, you know.
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Sean Hayes
I was just going to say I think it's awesome that you, the way that you talk about it and you seem so sort of clear headed and calm, knowing we sort of joke about it, about how much people perceive or think that they know about your life and what you've gone through and all that kind of stuff. And that's you have to kind of put that in a weird place because you. Right. That people have this sort of thing that they think and then you. But you have to actually go through it. And like you said when you started, like, you're just a human being and people forget that. You know what I mean? It's so crazy to me because we don't really understand other people's experiences unless we walk in their shoes.
Jason Bateman
Right. And there's also. I think. I think. I don't mean to cut you off, Willie, but I do think we're all aware of. And some of us are friends with some people that have like. Like this enormous level of celebrity and exposure that actually enables the ability for. Enables them to stay exactly who that is for kind of as long as they want. In other words, there's this real permissive culture around celebrity and you don't kind of have to be the best part of you, and you don't have to grow. Like, you know what you just said, Jennifer, that, you know, the past two years has been about the healing and that you're so different now than you were even. Even two years ago, five years ago. Do you recognize that that can be a real accomplishment for somebody in your position? Like, I think that's a real great attaboy that you've clearly put in time and work and self reflection and you could have just kind of just kept eating the junk food of the permissive culture around you and just kind of lean back. But it sounds like you're leaning into, who am I going to be for this next chapter? What have I learned? Et cetera, et cetera.
Jennifer Lopez
100%. Again, there's been different times where I felt like whether people outside knew it or not, where I feel like my life blew up in my own face. And it was because of the choices I made, but also because of the fact that I had things that needed to change about myself that I didn't understand or recognize that was attracting certain things and attracting a certain type of experience into my life. And I really needed. Honestly, it's that thing where. And you can go either way. You're right. It is a choice. So I want to give myself that credit too. But there comes a point where it's all so puzzling and wrong, where you have to sit there. And after my last divorce, I. I just sat there and I was like, I canceled my Torah and I sat there and I was just like, you need to fucking figure yourself out what is going on with you. Forget about everybody else. There's nobody to Blame here except yourself in a certain way. Not that people don't behave in a way that's not great, but what are you doing? What do you have going on? And that was a turning point for me. And that was a couple of years ago now.
Sean Hayes
I, I did the same thing about two, three years ago. I will, I've. Maybe I've told you guys this in, in, in private before, but I had a moment before I got into real therapy a couple years ago where one day I was making coffee in the morning and I swear to God. And I went, I remember distinctly what was happening.
Jason Bateman
Oat milk.
Sean Hayes
Not the date.
Jason Bateman
Oat milk.
Sean Hayes
Oat milk. And I remember, and I, and I went, I said out loud to myself, it's you, right? And I had this real. I was like, oh my God, I need to do some work. I go, it's me.
Jennifer Lopez
But by the way, everybody needs to do that at some point in your life.
Jason Bateman
By the way, everybody goes through this. I mean, it's all sort of relative.
Jennifer Lopez
It's part of being human. Right.
Jason Bateman
Being human is we all have things that blow up.
Jennifer Lopez
We get these parents, they do the best they can or they do as much as they can. They form certain parts about ourselves. And then our journey is kind of the undoing and the healing of those things, of the patterns that, that created. And so in doing and looking at those patterns, I was able to kind of like go back to that little girl and really look at her and go, that little seven year old girl, like I said, with the ripped nightgown. Like I can see her right now with it. Like my hair was like up to here and it was about the same color, you know what I mean? 30ft walking around barefoot all the fucking time.
Will Arnett
Yeah, yeah.
Sean Hayes
And I was like, you're barefoot now.
Jennifer Lopez
You, you. Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Just bad
Jennifer Lopez
still. Nothing's changed still Jenny from the block and, and just kind of like going, you did this?
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
You, you did all this.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
Give yourself a little something, like a little love.
Will Arnett
Right?
Jennifer Lopez
Stop looking for love and other things.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
And give it to yourself.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
There's so much to love in you. Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, yeah. And you don't see it because you're in this business and everybody's telling you you're bad at this and you're bad at that and they're scrutinizing, criticizing your personal, your professional life and you're not doing this enough or you didn't choose that Right. Movie or that song didn't do as good as the last one. And you're like, and it plays on you, and it plays on those places that. That were reinforced when you were younger of, like, whatever it is, the impressions that were made on you because of the way you were loved or cared for in different ways. And it's just. It's all so intertwined. And I find it very interesting and I love it because I really do believe people are capable of change because I've experienced it same.
Jason Bateman
And a lot of that fuel for change comes from that self love. But that self love is often so hard for all of us to kind of recognize and utilize because it's hard to see because we're living with ourselves every day. You know, you kind of get used to some of the things that you really should be taking a second to be pleased with about yourself. It's like you can't see your own hair grow, right? Like, you see yourself every day.
Jennifer Lopez
I understand what it is to love yourself, like, to understand to whatever you want. And I think having kids for me changed a lot of that because I really realize whatever I want to give them, like, why wouldn't I give that to myself, Right?
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
Why don't I appreciate those things about. Why don't I? You know, if you want respect from people, you have to respect yourself. Those are actions, right? Like, those are real, tangible things and being. My sister said to me once, Linda, who I think is so smart, and she was like, when are you going to be your own keeper? You keep everybody. You take care of mom, you take care of me, you take care of the kids, you take care of everybody who works for you. You take care. When are you gonna be your own keeper? And I was just like, yeah, and these are all little pieces. I feel like the journey is like pieces, pieces, little puzzle pieces that you fit in little by little as you, like, sit there with the oat milk and go, it's me.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
This fucking thing that just happened me.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, right.
Sean Hayes
And, you know, you mentioned the kids. I sort of realized also that, like, that act of the way that we love our kids for, my experience is that act of being loving to them allows. The reason it feels so good is because you're generating that and then you get it back. And it's when you close off and you don't act in a loving way. Pushing. I find the more I push out, the more it comes back. And so, like, with my kids, that that's why it feels so good because you're creating that as opposed to kind of rolling up the window on it. Do you Know what I mean? I don't know.
Jennifer Lopez
No, I agree. And the kids are a great learner. But relationships are great kind of learning grounds as well, where you really get to face yourself. If you get lucky enough to be with somebody who actually really cares and loves about you in the right way, there's a lot you can learn from each other, even if things don't work out. You know what I mean? But, Jason, I'm sorry I cut you off. I was just like. Had to get that thought out.
Jason Bateman
No, no, I was kind of done. I was just. Just saying it's. It's a dumb metaphor or analogy not being able to recognize your own hair growing because we see ourselves in the mirror every single day. But if you don't see somebody for a few weeks, oh, your hair's gotten long. Your hair's got long.
Jennifer Lopez
You have a beard.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, right. Like you can't really see the things inside of you that you probably should be.
Sean Hayes
You've got the greatest. You've got the greatest hair of all time.
Jason Bateman
I was trying to back into a combo.
Sean Hayes
Thank you. Jason's got the greatest hair.
Jennifer Lopez
They really do.
Sean Hayes
He's got the greatest. It's unbelievable. You know what, Jennifer? You want to know something? He hasn't put a comb or a brush in it since he was 11. That's a true story.
Jennifer Lopez
Stop. Stop.
Will Arnett
And he doesn't color it.
Sean Hayes
He doesn't color it.
Jason Bateman
Also true.
Sean Hayes
He's so handsome.
Jason Bateman
Guys.
Will Arnett
You know, I mentioned it before, Jen. It's like, you know, the. Well, maybe I didn't mention. I think I mentioned in the intro where you left home when you were really young and you slept in a dance studio or something. I did as a girl.
Jennifer Lopez
I have done the craziest things.
Will Arnett
I know, but don't you look back at that with thing we're talking about now and giving yourself and loving yourself, looking at that and going, wow. I was sleeping on the floor of a studio on my own, not even living at home, and look what I've done. Like, it's kind of. It's just mind blowing.
Jennifer Lopez
It's crazy because my mom and dad, like, I was about to start college, or I had just done a semester of college, and I was just like, I had a dream that I'm gonna be in church. Show business. And they were like, we lived in the Bronx. We, you know, they were like this crazy. And I was just like, no, dad. And my mom was like, you're not dropping out of college. You are crazy. You know how much we do. So you can go to college. And my dad was like, did you have a dream? Really? I said, daddy, I did. I really did. Anyway, the next few months was tumultuous and I wound up leaving the house and I kept. I kept skipping. I stopped going to class at college and I was going to the dance studio and literally taking class all day. I just.
Will Arnett
To be a lawyer.
Jennifer Lopez
Fallen in love with it. I was. Yeah, I wanted to be a lawyer. I worked in a law office for a few years during high school and I was like, really good with numbers and taxes and things like that. And I don't know, I just could feel I was just good at it. And they loved me and I. And I just was on this track to be a lawyer and I was going to apply to law school, whatever.
Will Arnett
What?
Jennifer Lopez
I don't know.
Will Arnett
Anyway, yeah, I mean, it's wild to know that.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, yeah. It didn't happen. And I decided to like, go sleep on the dance floor. I needed somewhere to go and me and my mom had a big falling out and I called the dance teacher and I said, you know, can I come stay? I'll sleep on the couch at the dance studio. And he said, yeah. Wow.
Will Arnett
It's crazy.
Sean Hayes
Wow.
Jennifer Lopez
He liked me. But. Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Do you still have a talent for numbers and. And bookkeeping and that types of things? Like are you involved with your. Or do you just kind of just let you just.
Jennifer Lopez
No, I'm smart about it, but I. And I've always been very attuned with my business managers, like not to let my money get away from me.
Jason Bateman
But you're not like playing the markets and like, you know, looking on the
Jennifer Lopez
stock pages and like, I do some investing here.
Will Arnett
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jason Bateman
Because like, some people I know, they really like, they handicap companies, kind of like horses and they really follow that.
Jennifer Lopez
No, I don't, I don't, I don't. But. And I. I left that behind and probably can, you know, do multiplication now. My kids. Math is too hard for me when I try to help them.
Jason Bateman
But you know what I just read the other day?
Sean Hayes
This should be good.
Will Arnett
The Giving Tree.
Sean Hayes
A page of a book.
Jason Bateman
They don't teach curses anymore in school. I just haven't done for like the last few years.
Will Arnett
I know. Why is that?
Jason Bateman
Well, I guess because typing is such a big problem.
Will Arnett
I know, but like. But at some point anymore, right? But you gotta sign your name and stuff exactly.
Jason Bateman
Like, what is it they teach them
Jennifer Lopez
their name in kindergarten, I think. And that's it?
Will Arnett
And that's it. We're done. Next.
Sean Hayes
How's everybody's handwriting self assessment on your handwriting?
Jason Bateman
It's terrible because you don't get to practice it, but I know how my
Will Arnett
brain works faster than my hand, so I can't.
Jennifer Lopez
You know, I also, when I have to write a birthday card, I'm like, this is horrendous. Wait a minute. Like, I cross shit out. It's crazy.
Sean Hayes
Do you do all caps? Do you do all caps?
Jason Bateman
I do, like, a hybrid. It's terrible.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, me too. It's a hybrid.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jennifer Lopez
What's happening?
Jason Bateman
Start every sentence in cursive and then end up going just for legibility alone. I want people to understand what the hell I'm writing.
Jennifer Lopez
That's so true.
Will Arnett
Okay, so this is like, I'm going to. Just. Because we're all almost at speed, round,
Sean Hayes
speed, round, speed, round, speed.
Will Arnett
So we're going to do, like a little tiny something. Speed round. If, if. If you
Jason Bateman
introduce to the podcast your
Will Arnett
music career, which is just massive. And I've been to. I know every other song that you've ever recorded, and I just think it's incredible. I. I mean, what you've accomplished, you
Jennifer Lopez
know, it's pretty insane. I just had a number one dance record, like, weeks ago. Yes. Yeah. I had a new record out called Save Me Tonight, and I went and I performed it at Coachella, and after that, like, went to number one.
Will Arnett
That's amazing.
Jennifer Lopez
It's amazing.
Will Arnett
It is amazing.
Jason Bateman
Had you done Coachella before?
Jennifer Lopez
Never. It was my first time at Coachella.
Jason Bateman
Was it. Was it a. Was it a freaky big experience or was it.
Jennifer Lopez
It's massive. It's big and it's. I'd never been. I didn't know what it was like or whatever, but you have all these people and I, I. And I hadn't done a dance record in a long time, and David Guetta had this record and I. I was. I was going out on tour last summer to do, like, a little limited tour overseas, and I was like, I need some new songs. Like, I'm tired of performing the same old songs. So I did like five, by the way.
Will Arnett
We're not tired of this song.
Jennifer Lopez
Thank you. I still do them. I still do them. But I did, like, five new records. Three or four. Like, four. Yeah, Four or five new records. And I put them in the show just for that. And this one kind of popped off, and so we released it a couple months ago or something.
Jason Bateman
And what about videos? People still make videos, right?
Jennifer Lopez
They do, they do, but it's not the same. Yeah. I don't really even feel like I need to sometimes.
Sean Hayes
Do you guys, do you have to pay for them?
Jennifer Lopez
I do, I do, yeah. Because it's. It's different. Like when I started, they'd spend millions of dollars on videos. Like a million dollars, two million dollars with videos, you know, Michael Jackson, Jen used to do like $7 million. But now because of streaming and how the record business has changed since I started, it's like a whole different world. You have to shoot them on your iPhone yourself. 100,000 bucks. They. Sometimes they give you 75. It's. It's really a different thing.
Jason Bateman
And that's to promote the album that
Sean Hayes
you have a limit probably through social media too.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, Right. And it's. And it's not even your album. It's the labels album and your. The way the music industry runs nowadays. Correct me, Most of the income for the artist comes from touring as opposed to album sales. Is that right?
Jennifer Lopez
Absolutely, yeah.
Will Arnett
Now, speaking of touring, you toured forever. You did, obviously, massive, massive shows your whole life. You know, I love horrible theater stories. You might not know this, but gimme something that happened on a tour that just went horribly wrong. That's funny.
Jennifer Lopez
Well, I don't know if you saw this. This. It was.
Will Arnett
Oh, yes, I know what you're gonna say. I know what you're gonna say.
Jennifer Lopez
The thing on my neck, did you see it?
Will Arnett
No, I saw. No, I thought you're gonna say when you fell.
Jennifer Lopez
No, that. That happened. But that wasn't on tour. That was on television.
Will Arnett
Oh, that's right.
Jennifer Lopez
And it ran on CNN for the next three days. My coccyx was on fire.
Sean Hayes
Right.
Jennifer Lopez
It was just like. It was awful. But no, I was gonna say this summer on tour. I was, I was.
Jason Bateman
I just wrote three. Three jokes. Sorry, I'm not doing any of them. There's a coccyx on fire and we take pills for it and all this stuff. Never mind.
Jennifer Lopez
Yes. This summer when I was on tour, I don't remember where I was. Oh, God. Which actual date it was, but I was there. And I might have been in Spain because I was singing a Spanish song and it was like the slow moment in the show. Usually I'm dancing around and doing the choreography and like a fucking bikini and a G string and whatever, right? Whipping my hair around and it's a good time and same, same, same, same. Yeah. And so I'm standing there fully dressed and I have this thing on. It's like outfit on and I'm singing and it's really quiet. It's just A spotlight on me. And I don't know, like, all during the show, I was seeing, like, little bugs and things around, but, you know, we're outside of this.
Will Arnett
I did see this.
Jennifer Lopez
They're attracted to the light, and so everything is dark except for me. And I'm singing. And as I'm singing, the audience starts screaming. And usually they do react in this moment because I stop and it's a slow song, and they usually clap and whatever. Before I do the little last line, I do, like, a dramatic pause, but this time they're clapping a lot and screaming. And I was like, what's happening? And I'm just there, and this huge bug is just crawling up my neck, and I feel it. And I thought it was hitting me and going away and hitting me and going away, but when you see the thing, it's just. It starts, like down here, and it just goes. And it lands up right here. And I just feel it a little bit. But I was. I just stayed really still and I finished the song, the last line, and then I just go, go. And I kind of. And it flies into the light like that. And I saw it and I was like, what the fuck was that? Fucking helicopter. It looked like a helicopter. It was crazy.
Will Arnett
I love that.
Jennifer Lopez
But that was crazy. But it was kind of horrible. Like, if I would have known it was that, I probably would have been screaming and yelling and.
Will Arnett
Okay, three final little things. What's the most Bronx thing about you that's never left, no matter where life is taken?
Jennifer Lopez
I can't stand. Stop cursing. I try.
Will Arnett
Okay, great. I love that.
Jennifer Lopez
Potty mouth is terrible.
Will Arnett
And then I love it. And then, by the way, I'm telling you, you know this, Jen already. But I'm saying to Jason and Will. Did you guys know that Google Images is because of Jennifer Lopez?
Sean Hayes
What do you mean?
Will Arnett
That Google didn't have Google Images until that green Versace dress, and then everybody Googled it. So then Google's like, we don't have any anywhere for people to see images, a search engine. So they invented Google Images because of Jennifer Lopez. Isn't that wild?
Jennifer Lopez
Serge Sergey has, you know that? He's been asked that after that, he's like, yes, that is absolutely true. Jennifer. When she walked the red carpet in that dress, everybody wanted to have a picture of it. And we didn't have any Google search pics, anything. So we invented it.
Sean Hayes
Sue them. Sue them. They're so rich. Sue them.
Jennifer Lopez
I was like, don't I deserve some.
Sean Hayes
Sure. For sure. We got some good lawyers.
Will Arnett
Okay. And then we got to plug this because it's. I can't wait to see it. Office romance comes out June 5th on Netflix. Yes.
Jennifer Lopez
You.
Will Arnett
Brett Goldstein, he wrote it with you in mind, right? Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Super funny, Brett Goldstein.
Jennifer Lopez
He's funny, but I love his brand. His brand of, like, writing where it's, like, really kind of hard jokes, but with this wholesomeness at the end of the day. It's just. It's really. I think you guys will like this one.
Will Arnett
Okay, good. I can't wait to.
Jennifer Lopez
It's made for guys and girls, not just the romantic comedy for, like, girls.
Will Arnett
And then this is really cool. Edward James Olmos, who was your dad in Selena, is your dad in this movie?
Jennifer Lopez
He is. And I gotta tell you, when we. When we filmed with him and he walked. He walks in on this, like, board meeting, and it's the first time you see him. And when he walks in, like, all the cast and all the extras that were in the board meeting were like, you know, kind of like. He has such a commanding presence. But even more than that, when we screened it for the first time, and he walks in and his first line is, hot damn. With that really deep voice. And people just started clapping in the theater. And I think part because he was my dad and Selena, of course, but also because it's just like. It's Edward James Olmos, you know? And it was great. It was great to get to work with him again. He's amazing.
Will Arnett
And speaking of musicals, I love Kiss of the Spider Woman. I can't believe it was your first movie musical ever. You need to do more. And second of all, are you. I read somewhere you're going to do Bye Bye Birdie. But that was a while ago.
Jennifer Lopez
That was a while ago. That was a while ago. What you. Do you remember when they were doing, like, these musicals on tv?
Will Arnett
Oh, yeah, yeah. Carrie Underwood did one.
Sean Hayes
Are you asking if Sean remembers?
Will Arnett
Yeah, I was. I did Hairspray live with Ariana Grande and everything.
Jennifer Lopez
That's right. That's right. So when they did those, we. They were talking about doing Bye Bye Birdie, but then it kind of went away.
Will Arnett
Well, make it happen again.
Jennifer Lopez
I don't know. We'll see.
Will Arnett
You'd be great, right, Rosie? You'd be a great Rosie.
Jennifer Lopez
I would be a great Rosie. Trust me. I practiced all the songs.
Will Arnett
Well, they. What they could change it to. Everything is JLo.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah.
Will Arnett
All right. Well, honey, thank you so much for being here.
Jennifer Lopez
You guys are great. Thank you so much.
Jason Bateman
It was very cool of you to do this. Jennifer, thank you so much.
Jennifer Lopez
Not at all. Ever since you did it that one day and I walked into the podcast, I was like, I got to do that one day.
Jason Bateman
That's right. That's right.
Will Arnett
Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure you're off to go do something. What are you doing in New York?
Jennifer Lopez
I was doing the upfronts. Right now I'm editing. I'm working on an edit for the. I just did a residency in Vegas and I did a new show, a brand new show, the JLo show, which you would love. Because what I did is combine my hits with musical theater inspirations of mine. I know it sounds like it would been. Have work, but it worked. Amazing.
Will Arnett
Wait, but, but it's, but it's a, it's. It's. It's a residency where you.
Jennifer Lopez
We filmed it for Paramount plus and for cbs and so I'm, I'm editing. We're editing that now.
Will Arnett
I can't wait to see that.
Jennifer Lopez
Yeah, I can't wait to.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, that's very cool. Busy as ever. Busy as ever. Keep going.
Jennifer Lopez
Singing, dancing show girl.
Jason Bateman
It's really so impressive. Jennifer. There he is. Keep going.
Will Arnett
Thank you.
Sean Hayes
It's amazing.
Jennifer Lopez
Are.
Sean Hayes
That's amazing.
Jennifer Lopez
So kind. Thank you.
Will Arnett
Yes. We'll see you soon.
Jennifer Lopez
I'll see you.
Sean Hayes
Bye Bye. Bye.
Jennifer Lopez
Bye.
Will Arnett
Bye, honey.
Jason Bateman
That's big star.
Sean Hayes
That's big star. Massive.
Will Arnett
Come on, tell. I mean, when I was, when I was reading about her, it's just. You go, oh, yeah. Oh wait. Yeah, oh wait.
Sean Hayes
She's not a star. That's a, that's a, that's a megastar.
Will Arnett
That's a mega star.
Jason Bateman
That documentary is pretty stunning. I mean, it takes you all the way through. Through it. Everything that she's done, who can do.
Sean Hayes
Who does all of it. Everything.
Will Arnett
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Bateman
But it's also so incredibly well earned. It's not, it's not because, you know, there's some sort of celebrity manipulation or something. She's. She's like, no, she does everything and does it at such a high level and people are, you know, paying for it and they're, they're supporting it and they're coming. Like she's just.
Sean Hayes
And she has this sort of, as I was saying, like this sort of this coolness and this calmness and this. And this like, no knows who she is clearly. Right. And is like so comfortable. And again, I was kind of getting at that thing of like, we all think that we know, right? And who people are. I remember, I remember watching, remember that Tiger woods documentary came out A few years ago and it started and I remember turning it off because I was thinking like, I don't think he wants me to know all this stuff. Do you know what I mean?
Jason Bateman
Oh, right, yeah, yeah, I just turned it off.
Will Arnett
Tiger woods wants you to know all that stuff.
Sean Hayes
But just anything about people when they. Any people just talking shit like we don't know anything about.
Will Arnett
I thought you were saying.
Sean Hayes
No, no, no. Until we hear from them what their experience, we don't really know.
Jason Bateman
And she does seem so purposefully aware of. Of her, of her beginnings, of her roots and is constantly staying in touch with the people that she surrounds herself with.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
And so that's, that's probably why she's so on it.
Sean Hayes
Shani. I mean, that was a great get.
Jason Bateman
Oh, great get. And there's no way you would be lazy to work in the Bye Bye Birdie thing at the end there of your question.
Sean Hayes
I didn't even. He hadn't even thought about it.
Will Arnett
Now.
Jason Bateman
I think you've used Bye Bye Birdie before many times. We'll just wait. We'll wait for something a little bit better.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, I know.
Jason Bateman
If you need a Google search or something.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. There's something that needs to come up. You know what I mean that you.
Will Arnett
Well, the by Birdie thing is real because she, she was.
Sean Hayes
No, we know it's real, but like maybe if there was something.
Jason Bateman
Set yourself up like that.
Sean Hayes
No. Yeah. You know what I mean? There's got to be some type away typing and just trying to think.
Will Arnett
Well, you guys know from her album this Is Me.
Sean Hayes
Sure. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Oh, my favorite.
Will Arnett
What do you.
Sean Hayes
You mean her 2002 record this is Me.
Will Arnett
Yeah, yeah, this is me then. Yeah. And you guys know this Is me now. Yeah, this is me now. Yeah, this is Me.
Jason Bateman
You have a favorite song from that?
Will Arnett
Yeah, it's so good. It's called Never. It's called Never Good.
Jason Bateman
Oh, you sneaky son of a. Bye
Will Arnett
Birdie, you're so bad.
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Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett | June 15, 2026
This engaging episode of SmartLess welcomes the multi-hyphenate star Jennifer Lopez. The hosts—Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett—dive into an honest and often hilarious conversation with J.Lo, covering her iconic career, roots, the reality of fame, the demands of creative life, and her continued reinvention. The tone oscillates between playful, deeply reflective, and candid, providing listeners with fresh perspectives on Lopez’s work ethic, her impact on representation for Latina women, and the personal evolution behind the global persona.
[03:16–10:10] Casual Group Banter & Guest Reveal
[15:56–20:26] Work Ethic, Responsibility, and Inspiration
"You realize... how rare your kind of drive is..." (16:13, Will Arnett)
"Jennifer, if you can’t do it, none of us can do it." (17:43, Jennifer Lopez)
“It gave me a feeling of responsibility to do things right all the time.”
— Jennifer Lopez [18:00]
[26:46–32:36] Struggling with Sudden Fame, Panic Attacks, and Boundaries
"Your anonymity is gone... you can't get that back." (28:01, Jennifer Lopez)
"It was a terrible time for me..."
— Jennifer Lopez [28:11]
“You can't go back. They're always gonna know.”
— Jennifer Lopez [28:32]
[33:19–34:40] The Rise of 'J.Lo' & Cultural Moments
[35:28–38:53] From Dancer to Critically Acclaimed Actress
“[About auditioning with Clooney] ...I got there and there was a pig in the front yard… This is some real Hollywood shit.”
— Jennifer Lopez [38:28]
[39:01–44:32] Career Choices, Agency, and Motherhood
"For the first time in my life, I've really taken more control... What do you really wanna do?" (41:04)
“I have opened up an avenue for myself where there's endless possibility and I can really create a new dream right now for myself.”
— Jennifer Lopez [42:44]
[48:19–56:27] Healing, Growing Up, and Taking Accountability
"You need to fucking figure yourself out... There's nobody to blame here except yourself in a certain way."
— Jennifer Lopez [50:50]
[57:08–60:19] Hustle, Family, and the Untold Stories
[61:01–69:25] Music, Mishaps, and Google Images
“My coccyx was on fire...It ran on CNN for the next three days.” [63:58] A bug crawling up her neck during a show in Spain [65:08–66:12].
“...You learn to kind of, like, live a certain way...I don’t go out all that much, you know...”
— Jennifer Lopez [32:11]
“If you can’t do it, none of us can do it.”
— J.Lo’s coworker; pivotal personal responsibility [17:43]
“People are capable of change because I’ve experienced it.”
— Jennifer Lopez [54:03]
“Stop looking for love in other things...And give it to yourself.”
— Jennifer Lopez [53:13]
“Maybe because I was Puerto Rican and from the Bronx...I wasn’t born in Hollywood...”
— Jennifer Lopez [19:12]
Jennifer Lopez’s episode offers refreshing honesty—revealing not just relentless ambition, but the importance of reflection, therapy, self-love, and pride in her roots. Her journey is painted as both extraordinary and deeply relatable, making this a must-listen for fans interested in what it takes to manage extraordinary success while remaining authentic and evolving as a human being.
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Listen to the full episode for many more laughs, untold tour stories, inside references, and a masterclass in the art of reinvention from Jennifer Lopez.