"Jeremy Allen White"

Summary

SmartLess – "Jeremy Allen White"

Hosts: Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett
Guest: Jeremy Allen White
Released: December 22, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this lively and sincere episode, the SmartLess crew (Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett) welcome acclaimed actor Jeremy Allen White, best known for FX’s The Bear and Showtime’s Shameless. The conversation is a blend of classic SmartLess humor, deep-dive industry insight, and heartfelt reflection on fame, career transitions, and balancing art with family.

The episode explores Jeremy’s journey from Brooklyn dance classes to Emmy-winning stardom, the anxiety of leaving a long-running series, the explosion of The Bear, learning to become Bruce Springsteen, and the everyday reality of being recognized (and raising kids) in the public eye.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Warm Up & Golden Globe News

• [06:38] The guys discuss receiving a Golden Globe nomination for SmartLess. Will gives credit to their team behind the scenes:

  “A lot of it has to do with our friends Michael, Terry and Bennett Barbacow and Rob Armyard. Those guys… the wind beneath our wings.” – Will Arnett ([06:44])

2. Announcing the Guest & Early Banter

• [09:10] Will reveals Jeremy Allen White as the guest, celebrating his recent Golden Globe and Emmy acknowledgments.

  “We have somebody who is okuránt, as they say… It is Mr. Jeremy.” – Will Arnett ([09:19])

• [10:13] Jeremy enters, joking with the hosts about Amanda (Jason’s wife) texting him, cementing the show’s tone of playful intimacy.

3. Origin of Jason & Jeremy’s Friendship

• [13:15] Jeremy and Jason recount how they got “set up” by their mutual friend Jamie—first with movie nights, then a Dodgers game—highlighting the awkwardness and excitement of new adult friendships.

  “Jamie, who I think is friends with everybody… set us up.” – Jeremy Allen White ([14:00])

4. Jeremy’s Brooklyn Childhood & Creative Roots

• [16:22] Jeremy shares his Brooklyn upbringing and discusses how people mistake him as a Chicagoan due to his work.

  “I did a show before The Bear also set in Chicago. So I’ve been on like a Chicago set show my whole adult life.” ([16:33])

• [18:21] Talks about his parents’ theater backgrounds, his high energy as a kid, and finding focus through dance (ballet, tap, jazz) and eventually switching to drama because the dance program “didn’t take it seriously enough.” ([21:59])

5. First Stage Experiences & The Love of Acting

• [22:04] Jeremy describes the thrilling calm he felt acting for the first time in middle school, and how it provided focus for his busy mind.

  “There’s like a real simplicity or focus… that’s why I like acting so much.” – Jeremy Allen White ([23:02]-[23:53])

6. Early Career & New York Hustle

• [28:51] His drama teacher, John McEnany, played a pivotal role, helping him land his first jobs via Backstage casting calls – off-off-Broadway and commercials.

  “He was so serious… He would come to school with, like, nosebleeds when we were doing dress. He cared very much about it.” ([29:08])

7. The Musical Switch: Dance, Not Singing

• [30:38] Clarifies he wasn’t a singer early on—just a dancer—though recently had to learn to sing and play guitar for his Springsteen role in Deliver Me from Nowhere.

  “I had about six months to learn guitar… we just learned the couple songs that I needed.” ([32:35])

  • Bruce Springsteen gifted Jeremy a 1955 Gibson J200 guitar as thanks for his portrayal. Jeremy keeps it under his bed to protect it from LA’s weather / home breakdowns. ([33:22]-[33:53])

8. Shameless, LA Transition & Growing Up on TV

• [34:40] Jeremy landed Shameless right after high school, moving to LA at 18 and staying on the show until he was 30.

  “I was 18 when we did the pilot, and I was 30 when we finished. …That takes you through a lot.” ([34:54])

• [36:50] Talks family – he now has two children (Ezzy, 7; Dolly, 5), juggling bicoastal living through shooting years.

9. Post-Shameless: Panic & New Beginnings

• [38:02] Jeremy discusses the emotional instability of finishing a long-running series:

  “I was driving home… had a full panic. I had to pull over. My arms went numb… it had just been such a comfort…” ([38:30])

  • He was contacted by Chris Storer (creator of The Bear) exactly as promised years prior, opening a new chapter in his career just as the anxiety peaked.

10. The Bear: Expectation and Breakout Success

• [45:03] Jeremy reflects on not anticipating how The Bear would “resonate with fans and critics… My greatest hope was that maybe people in service would dig this show.”

  “That was the goal: will kitchens like this show?… The fact that it connected with as many people as it did… was definitely a surprise.” ([45:03]-[46:06])

11. Life in the Public Eye & Family Dynamics

• [47:25] Jeremy relates to the hosts’ love of privacy and routine, expressing discomfort at the scrutiny of public life, especially when it impacts private rituals like his weekly farmers market visits.

  “That thing that was mine… that private, kind of, like, nice routine has kind of been… spoiled by that sort of attention.” ([49:16]-[49:41])

  • He explains to his daughters that “people get excited about thinking they understand a version of your dad, but it’s not really your dad.” ([49:44]-[50:33])

12. Navigating Parenthood & Fame with Kids

• [53:26] The hosts compare notes on how to navigate their children’s awareness of public fame—Jason recalls “overcompensating” and accidentally making his daughter feel acting was a bad thing.

13. Dream Roles & Genre Fantasies

• [54:53] Sean shares a dream of playing an unexpected violent character:

  “I want to play a complete fucking maniacal serial killer… the super nice guy… and then he rips people’s necks apart when nobody’s around.” – Sean Hayes ([57:02])

• Will jokes about wanting to star in a Bourne-style action movie (“The Newborn”) where he takes Matt Damon out, seeking a last compliment from Damon as he does. ([58:19])

• Jeremy, meanwhile, focuses on “who are the directors, writers, and actors I want to work with” rather than a particular dream role or genre. Names Paolo Sorrentino and Paul Thomas Anderson as examples. ([56:06])

14. Real Estate Obsessions & Fantasy Escapes

• [62:57] Jeremy confesses his decompression outlet is “reality real estate shows” and browsing listings on Zillow and Realtor, fantasizing about other lives.

  “I send listings to friends and they’re like, just buy it then, like, what do you want from me? …but that’s my… like, I just look at stuff.” ([63:00]-[63:49])

• His weirdest near-move fantasy: Bisbee, Arizona, where everyone seems to just pass through and stay. ([64:33])

15. Place, Pace, and the City vs. Small Town Life

• The group discusses whether, as they age, they’d genuinely want to retreat to small towns or if the city’s energy suits them better. Jeremy’s open to a slower place someday, but sees the pros and cons. ([68:30]-[69:19])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Leaving Shameless:

  “I finished that [ADR], and I was driving home from Warner Brothers and had a full panic. I had to pull over. My arms went numb.”
  — Jeremy Allen White ([38:30])

• On Public Recognition:

  “That thing that was mine… that very, like, private, kind of, like, nice routine has kind of been. Yeah. Like, spoiled by that sort of attention… none of it feels normal.”
  — Jeremy Allen White ([49:16]-[49:41])

• On Friendship & Fame:

  “I want to be a local immediately.”
  — Jason Bateman ([64:27])

• On Acting as Focus:

  “When I’m on set or performing, there’s like a real simplicity or focus… that’s why I like acting so much.”
  — Jeremy Allen White ([23:53])

• On Success of The Bear:

  “Will back of house like this show? Does this seem real? …the fact that it connected… was definitely a surprise.”
  — Jeremy Allen White ([45:03]-[46:06])

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Important Timestamps & Segments

• [06:38] – Hosts announce their Golden Globe nomination for SmartLess
• [09:10] – Will introduces Jeremy Allen White as the surprise guest
• [13:15] – Jeremy and Jason discuss their mutual friend Jamie and new friendship
• [16:22] – Jeremy’s Brooklyn upbringing and how Chicago keeps showing up in his career
• [21:59] – Dancing as a kid and the turn toward drama
• [34:40] – How Shameless took Jeremy from NY to LA
• [38:30] – Jeremy’s panic attack post-Shameless
• [40:13] – Chris Storer’s three-years-later offer for The Bear
• [45:03] – The Bear’s unexpected critical and popular breakout
• [49:16] – Navigating being recognized, and how it affects family life
• [54:53] – The hosts and Jeremy discuss their dream roles
• [62:57] – Jeremy’s surprising reality TV and real-estate hobby
• [64:33] – Bisbee, Arizona: Jeremy’s almost-move fantasy
• [68:30] – Group discusses big city vs. small town living as they get older

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Tone, Language, & Style

• Conversational, quick-witted, warm and honest
• Playful roasting among friends, with Jeremy quickly embracing the SmartLess rhythm
• Openness about therapy, anxieties, ambition, and work/life balance

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Summary Conclusion

This episode is an essential listen for fans of The Bear, Shameless, or anyone interested in the uncertain path of showbiz. Jeremy Allen White’s humility and introspection, matched by the hosts’ signature banter and candor, make for an informative and entertaining hour. The show balances laughs (hypothetical serial killers and “the Newborn” action movie), heartfelt industry talk, and the very real struggles of adapting to success—on screen and off.

Final word:

• [70:07] – “Jimmy, you’re the man. Just… you are the man, man.” – Will Arnett

Jeremy’s wisdom about “taking things as they come” and building his career on relationships, not just roles, rounds out an episode that’s as much about friendship and self-awareness as it is about acting.

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For More

• Watch The Bear (FX/Hulu)
• Keep an eye out for Jeremy’s turn as Bruce Springsteen in “Deliver Me from Nowhere”
• If you’re ever near Bisbee, Arizona, say hi to Jaw Dog.

Transcript

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[A]

Good morning to you. Good afternoon, wonderful day.

[B]

Oh, or a good evening for maybe some of our listeners. It could be an evening lesson.

[C]

I'm just saying, depending on where you are. Good that time of day.

[B]

I think most people listen to this show during the day or during the night.

[C]

You know what? That's a really great question. And we'll get to it right after this all new episode of Smartless. God Smart.

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Less.

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Smart. Smart lettuce. Smart lettuce.

[B]

I will say in the blind right now, my wife said to say to the guest that she loves them. So I don't know who this is, but just know. Oh, because she told my house loves you already.

[A]

Oh, that's nice.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Because Will talks to my wife more than I do and something we should get into.

[A]

Hi, Willie.

[C]

Let's go there now.

[B]

Let's go there now. Will, why do you talk to my wife so often? You talk to her as if I don't want to say some of these crashes. There's something going on, but it's. It's married to her. I'm married to her and I live with her and I talk to her X amount. You talk to her X + amount. So where does that put your relationship?

[C]

Well, let me just say this. Is there something going on? Don't ask me point blank.

[B]

Should I ask you kind of in a nuanced way?

[C]

I'm just saying don't ask me point blank.

[B]

Cuz you don't like to lie to me.

[C]

I don't like lying.

[B]

Okay. If. If you were to cheat on one of your friends, wives, would you. Would I be in the running or husbands?

[C]

You be. Yeah, you have been in the running. Sorry. You would. Sorry.

[A]

This hypothetical about Amanda or.

[C]

You are the running.

[B]

Well, I thank you, Mr. Mark.

[C]

It's a compliment to you that I love your wife. No, I do love your wife so much. And she and I have a special. She and Sean have a special relationship as well.

[B]

Are you talking to us from a gorgeous new place in New York?

[C]

Not new, no, no, no. I'm just in that same place.

[B]

Oh, the rental.

[C]

Yes, sir.

[B]

But did you not just get another new kind of.

[C]

Maybe? Yeah, maybe did. Maybe I did.

[B]

Yeah, you might actually.

[A]

I want to stay there. Can we stay there when we come visit?

[C]

But not. But not yet. You have a place here.

[A]

Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right.

[B]

It's uptown though. I'm sorry. Should we take a break?

[C]

We'll just. Yeah, sure. We'll just give you a minute.

[B]

Are you still on lunch? We're not back yet.

[A]

Snickerdoodle man.

[B]

It's not. Sorry, just 11:30.

[A]

I know I hang out. I know I have. I have a late lunch, so. By the way, I just had a chicken wrap and a snickerdoodle and glass of milk.

[B]

Wait, wait, but you just said you have a late lunch coming up.

[A]

Yeah, 11:30. Right.

[B]

So why are you eating lunch food and let me just ask, tonight's dessert?

[C]

Well, no, this is tighting you over at 11:30 to. What time's your lunch?

[A]

2. 2 o'. Clock.

[C]

Oh my God.

[B]

So you're gonna eat dinner at 2:30.

[A]

At kind of like. It's like I'm gonna be a weird thing because then who wants to eat at 5 or 6 when I normally.

[C]

Are you powerlifting these days? Are you into powerlifting? What'?

[B]

You got a big contest coming up.

[C]

I would love if you just stood up and your legs, your glutes and everything were just popping.

[B]

You know, I think I recognize that snickerdoodle from. From the Country Mart? No, because I had one this weekend.

[A]

Oh yeah, no, they're. They're They're. They're pretty big.

[B]

I do like a snickerdoodle.

[A]

It's. They're really good.

[B]

They're like, what's your current favorite cookie, Willie?

[C]

It's always. Always. It's current and always chocolate chip cookie. I'm always in search of the best chocolate chip cookie thing.

[B]

You know what I like? I like a nice peanut butter cookie because they're usually soft and gooey in the middle.

[C]

They're often too dry for me.

[A]

You remember we were on the set of Is this thing on coming out or. It's already out, I think. And the craft service lady made fresh chocolate chip cakes. Remember those, Will and Will's like, I know. I couldn't believe it. And you're like, boy, that smells really good.

[B]

Sounds like someone on the set was honoring the fact that it was an on camera job, Sean.

[A]

Not me. I ate like five of them.

[B]

You still eat like you're doing a podcast.

[A]

That's right.

[C]

Eat like you're doing a podcast.

[A]

That's really good.

[C]

Hey, kudos to us on the podcast. We got recognition today.

[B]

Found out today. Yeah.

[A]

We got a little Golden Globe now.

[C]

And I. I want. We did. And I want to say. I want to say a lot of it has to do with our friends Michael, Terry and Bennett Barbacow and Rob Armyard. Those guys.

[B]

These are the winds beneath our wings.

[C]

And that's why. That's why I'm happy. I'm. I'm happy those dudes because how hard they work. And we love them so much. And thank you, guys. We love you. We don't need to hear from you. We love you. Yeah.

[B]

Who turned your mic on? You know. You know what Bennett and Rob and Michael would like. They would like probably for the three of us to show up to set award show in the event we're lucky enough to win. They'd probably like us to get up there and give a nice speech and not be stuck in New York at a play or stuck in Long island petting a dog or something like that.

[C]

You know, I would love to, but I'm not going to be. Yeah, I. Man, but Robin, Bennett and Michael should go in our stead. That's what I.

[B]

No, you're both coming. Wait till Amanda gets a hold of you both.

[A]

I know. By the way, she already did.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Willie, maybe we fly back together just for the night.

[B]

Yeah. There you go.

[C]

Well, we'll talk about it.

[A]

All right.

[C]

Oh, guys, the one thing I do want to mention before we go any. I want to say that we want to let you know about a new smartless media show that. That is celebrating the world's dumbest criminals. Right.

[B]

You want to let the audience know. You don't want to let. Sean and I are well aware this is a great little child of. Of smartless media little baby called. Okay, yeah. It's written by journalist Josh Dean and comedian Rory Scoville. Yeah.

[C]

What do they do? What do they do?

[B]

What do you mean? Every week Josh tells Rory a story or two or three, you know, about some ridiculous stranger than fiction crime starring some of the most hilarious ding dongs that you guys could possibly imagine. I want you to think of like, you know, like Coen brothers films. But it's, it's real, you know, crimeless.

[A]

It's like dum dums. It's like crime dumb dumbs making crime talking like.

[C]

Like stage deaths and.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Like pretend p. Hitman or drugs.

[B]

Like insurance scams, but. But done by idiots.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

People that don't know how to pull it off.

[C]

Okay, so we got new episodes of this and when. When are they coming out? People were like I want to get. When does it.

[B]

When would you want to hear it? You don't want to hear it on a hump day. Right. You'd want to hear. Just to get you through the week.

[C]

To get you through the week. Wednesday, perfect.

[B]

On a hump day is wherever you get your podcast. Crimeless.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

So anyway, hey, Will, you feeling good about your guest?

[C]

I'm feeling really good. In fact, I want to say, speaking of which, our guest is a Golden Globe nominee. Freshly minted. I think he has a couple. Yeah, that's right, guys. We have somebody who is okurant, as they say. He's. He's a.

[A]

He's a.

[C]

A very. He is an award winning celebrated actor. I do. And my mom, you know him as a lot of people know as. As Carmi from his acclaimed fx. Okay. He's earned him an Emmy, a Golden Globe SAG award for best actor. He was just nominated for Golden Globe for Deliver me from Nowhere, you guys. It is Mr. Jeremy.

[A]

All right.

[B]

I will second my wife's love for you now that I see you.

[A]

Everybody's love for you, my dear.

[C]

And not only that, not only that. Jeremy, before you start, welcome. He's also. He was also my surprise guest for our rained out Hollywood Bowl.

[A]

Yeah, I just thought found that out.

[B]

I just found that out too. This is, this is, this is. This is not as good as loving up on you on the Hollywood bowl stage, but we'll we'll take it.

[D]

We'll take it for sure. I'm so happy. I'm so happy to see you guys. I was just texting Amanda as you guys spoke about her.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Everybody'S sleeping with Amanda.

[C]

Let me. Jason, let me say. And I mean, Sean, if she turns.

[B]

You, that's going to be it. That'll be.

[C]

I mean this in the most friendly way. A friendly, friendly. And I mean this in a nun, but your wife really gets around from. To texting people.

[A]

To text people.

[B]

Yeah, let you finish.

[C]

Let me finish. God. Is what I said to her.

[B]

Yeah, listen, she's a. She's a lover. She's a real lover. Jeremy, welcome.

[A]

This is so nice. It's so nice to meet you.

[D]

Be here. So happy to meet you.

[B]

Yeah, congrats on the nomination.

[C]

You guys have never met. Yeah, congrats on the nomination. And Sean, you and Jerry Allen White have never met.

[A]

Met. Never met. But I'm a big fan.

[D]

I'm a big fan.

[B]

And when you meet him, you're gonna be. You'll be in love. I'm serious.

[D]

I thought the eating thing also. I listen to the show a lot. I'm a subscriber. All of it. I thought the eating thing was like a bit, but it's all a bit.

[A]

No, A lot of times when you.

[D]

Brought out that cookie, I couldn't believe it.

[B]

Show them the milk, too. I bet you got milk right there.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[C]

But Jeremy, here's. Here's one thing. First of all, Sean, enough with the Foley work.

[B]

Do you need to keep it in? Take it out of the bag?

[A]

Oh, no, I'm keeping it fresh. I'm keeping it fresh.

[B]

What do you mean in a paper bag?

[C]

It's a wax paper that's open on one end. How is that keeping it fresh from six minutes that you're taking to eat it?

[B]

Can you grab a hat? What's going on with your hair?

[A]

I know, sorry.

[B]

It's like you're gonna catch on fire in a second. I'm gonna buy a product for Christmas.

[C]

We're gonna get Jen Distance and Lola V. Over. She should have an Em.

[B]

True.

[A]

I'll call her on smartless mobile to get me some Lola baby.

[C]

Smart.

[B]

Very smart.

[A]

Anyway, Jeremy, where are you today?

[C]

Welcome. Yeah, where do we find you?

[D]

I'm in. I'm in Los Angeles. I just got back the other day. I was in Vancouver for a little while and I'm. I'm in.

[A]

Are you in an office in your house?

[D]

Yeah. It's like. It's I try to make it an office, but it just becomes kind of storage.

[A]

How do you feel about that? That AC unit that's sticking out of the wall? I mean, they work, right?

[D]

No, I'm wearing the hat right now. It's like my house is falling apart. Nothing really works here. I got that put in recently. It doesn't work. So it's pretty chilly in here. But this is like a separate kind of room, not a guest house. There's nothing in here other than the acoustics are good.

[A]

Yeah, the acoustics are great. Can you give us a monitor?

[B]

Laughing right now?

[D]

No, no.

[B]

Hey, is that. Is that a chef's apron behind your left shoulder?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, I've got. I've got. Yeah, the chef's apron. It's like a collection of little stolen things.

[B]

Everybody needs a spot.

[A]

Yeah. You know, and Jeremy, you can. You can. You can tell us those stories into the mic. That would be great.

[D]

Oh, my gosh. I like. I like gesturing. Can you guys hear me now?

[A]

We can.

[D]

Okay, good, good.

[C]

So, Jeremy, I want to kind of get. I finally want to put the Amanda issue to bed again, but Amanda, when I knew that you were coming on to our live show. Yeah, Amanda was so. Amanda. Anka was so excited because she had explained to me that you and Jason are kind of newish friends in the last few months.

[D]

We got set up.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've seen each other a couple times now.

[D]

A couple times. Exciting.

[C]

Jb, cool it.

[B]

Okay, dude, you look great today. Jeremy.

[D]

I feel the same. I feel the same way.

[A]

That's really exciting.

[C]

Tell me how this newfound. I love new male friendships and how they. Start, baby. Start. Jeremy. I want to hear Jeremy's tale, baby.

[D]

Well, it was. It was Jamie, who I think is friends with everybody. Jamie.

[C]

I love her.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Who set us up. A great, great connector. Yeah, she set us up. We went to see some movies over at the house first, so we had, like, a group hanging first to make sure that everything felt. It wasn't awkward, felt right, and it wasn't uncomfortable. But then we got to go. We went to a Dodgers game, which was.

[A]

That's what always happens. The two of us always happens there.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like an hour long ride.

[C]

So I guess the first one's free.

[B]

Yep. And then you sit next to me for a few hours. I've got the radio in one ear, so it's still not super pressured, you know?

[D]

Yeah, that's true.

[C]

Well, and also, you don't have to fully connect with the person, so you don't have to be too vulnerable.

[D]

You've got something going on.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Yeah. Did you, did you get to sit on the side of, of the ear that had the thing in it or not?

[B]

No, no, no, no. He's always. How dare you, Sean?

[D]

He's on the, on the open ear.

[A]

I've had both. I've had both happen to me.

[C]

You've had both? Sean went to the playoff. The longest baseball game in playoff history.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Will got really exciting. I mean. Yeah, I was thinking about you a lot during, oh, last year.

[C]

I went, I went last year, the World Series, but. But Sean went this year.

[A]

Yeah, it was great. I loved it.

[B]

Even though it was 18 innings.

[C]

A little more enthusiasm. Next delivery.

[A]

I really did love it. I love going.

[B]

He really, he got, he got thrown in the deep end though there with that 18 inning game.

[D]

I learned a lot. Yeah, I don't know a lot about baseball.

[C]

So, Jeremy, I mean, you must have, you must have learned a lot from like hanging out with an older dude.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Because I know that he's always looking to. We call him Dracula because he's always looking to suck the young blood. He said he's always, he's like, I need, I need.

[B]

I worked on my outfit for a couple of days.

[C]

I need to get me some youth. I need to get an injection of youth.

[B]

Yeah, I went for a looser cut on my jean that, that day.

[D]

I don't know if I'm good for that. Yeah, I'm not sure. Did you get anything?

[B]

I did. I picked up on a couple of things. I, I don't want to really want to reveal it here, but maybe on our next date you'll see, you'll see some improvements.

[C]

But did you find JB saying a lot of stuff like that? Sounds pretty dope, dude.

[D]

I think I caught a couple fire. That's so fire. A couple things were.

[B]

A couple things were. Susan and Jeremy definitely had a lot of Riz that day.

[A]

Wait, Jeremy, I don't know anything about you. Where did you grow up?

[D]

I grew up in Brooklyn, New York. Oh.

[A]

See now because of the show, I think Chicago, like, Chicago. That's real. Like that you. No, not that the show's real, but I thought that you had.

[D]

That makes sense. I also, I did a show before the Bear also set in Chicago. So I've been on like a Chicago set show really, my whole adult life. That's what you got. So I. So I understand you don't shoot the show in Chicago.

[C]

Sean's always wondering what Tom Selleck felt about Growing up in Hawaii.

[D]

We shoot. We shoot all of the bear in Chicago. Yes.

[B]

Tom, do you serve?

[A]

Oh, how many?

[B]

We gotta get Tom on the show.

[C]

We gotta get Tom. So I can dispel that. But you've got the Detroit Tigers hat.

[B]

Now. What's.

[C]

Was one of your parents from Detroit?

[A]

So, Jeremy, did you eat the food.

[B]

In Chicago where your parents brought.

[C]

Jeremy. Jeremy. All your time in Chicago? Did anybody ever bring up Glenn? Ellen? No, not once.

[A]

Well, let me ask you. Let me ask you this. Did you eat Portillo's?

[D]

Yes. I love Portillos.

[A]

Isn't it great?

[D]

Portillo's is great.

[B]

Will, if you could just back the gum off the mic.

[D]

Yes, the chocolate. Chocolate shake.

[C]

The chocolate shake is delicious.

[D]

Yeah, it's incredible. Yeah.

[C]

From Portillo's. Sean was waxing on about it before we went to Chicago. We're like, okay, okay. And then that chocolate shake arrived, and I was like, this is the real cake shake.

[A]

It's great. By the way, Jason mentioned the cake shake, Portillo's cake shake in Ozark. And he didn't remember that.

[D]

Yeah, no, I don't remember that either. That's wild.

[C]

Well, he was in a blackout at the time. Do you want to address these rumors?

[A]

Okay, so wait.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Go ahead.

[B]

All right, so, Sean, you were happy.

[C]

They put the cake in a shake. Have you ever asked them to do it in an iv? Like, that would really just get it straight to the bloodstream.

[B]

So. So, Jeremy, we're in Brooklyn. We're in Brooklyn. We're. We're just learning how to read and write. We're watching.

[C]

Your parents were in the theater. You're. When you're a kid. Is that true?

[D]

That's true.

[B]

That's true.

[D]

You read that correctly? Absolutely.

[B]

And they say to you, just as you're learning how to read and write, hey, here, why don't you read this play? Or did it start that early? How'd you get started?

[D]

No, no, they weren't particularly pushy with all that. You know, when I was a kid, I had a lot of energy, and I think they just wanted to get rid of the energy. So I played sports, and that wasn't enough. And I did dance, which was kind of my first, like, getting on stage and performing sort of thing. And dance and. Yeah, So I did ballet. Ballet, tap, and jazz for a long time in New York.

[C]

That's great.

[A]

Can you still do it?

[D]

I can look like I can do. I mean, tap was my favorite, and I can shuffle a little bit. But no, it's been a Long time.

[B]

But when you're at a party and there's a dance floor, like, to me it looks like a quicksand pit. Like, watch out, don't get anywhere near it. Like, I've got an allergy to it. Are you thinking, like, okay, all right, there's my plan for a little bit later on. Like, are you excited to dance?

[D]

There was a time like in my mid-20s, I had in LA and New York, like a dance spot for almost every night of the week.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

No way.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Yeah. Not like ballroom dancing, but like there was like a dance yourself clean night and there was a spot in Chinatown that was like an 80s night.

[B]

There's a level of confidence to your dancing that it actually, it's something that you look forward to. And this is, it's a bit of a. It's a little bit of a flex when like you've, you've. I don't want to put you on the spot, but. Words in your mouth. But it's not something you avoid. Let's put it that way.

[D]

It's not something I avoid. I like to dance. God, I wish.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I'll say it.

[A]

Hollywood is going to go nuts for you because you're straight and you can dance. They're going to put you in so many.

[C]

Yeah. Wait till Hollywood gets a notice of you.

[B]

You're going to do great.

[A]

No, Matt, no, I meant like, what's that? Ryan Gosling.

[D]

Oh, La La Land.

[A]

Yeah. La La Land.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Jeremy, let's say it's a Tuesday night and you know of a place in New York. You're like, all right, I'm gonna go out. There's like a 70s dance thing and you've got, you've got your new buddy JB and it's late for him because it's 9 o' clock and he's a little nervous about how he danced.

[B]

He wants to go to the disco. What would.

[C]

Could you teach him how to dance, do you think? Please?

[D]

Yeah. I mean, there was a place, Sway in New York. They are the Smith's night. And I think you could, you could do that, right?

[A]

I love that.

[B]

Smiths.

[D]

Yeah. It's like Smith's mature. Like, you know, you can, you could figure it out. Yeah.

[A]

Wait, how old?

[C]

Jason, you shut your mouth. How can you say I go about things the wrong way?

[D]

Right?

[B]

So I can just sort of just rock and sway as opposed to boogie. I'm not much, but you've got boogie moves. Yeah.

[D]

I mean, I feel like the more we talk about it, someone's really gonna try to get me to.

[C]

But you got. Man, I was looking for something.

[D]

I can dance. Yes. I've got some rhythm. I can dance. I can dance.

[B]

Yeah, man. I'm very jealous.

[D]

And I'm sure you could do it, Jason.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

So you're singing and dancing as a kid, which you've continued into adulthood, and then what happened? You start doing theater?

[D]

Yeah, so I joined. I joined kind of a new school in middle school in seventh grade, and. And I joined the dance program, naturally, because I'd been doing that for a while, but I didn't find the class took dance seriously enough. I didn't feel the teacher took it seriously enough.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

And so I switched to the drama program.

[B]

Did you have leg warmers on at the time? You were in this level of disdain?

[D]

Yeah, I was stretching. I had the warmers on. I did the whole thing, and I just swings. They were taking it as a big boat.

[B]

My belly.

[D]

My. My belly was showing. But I just didn't think they took it serious. Truly, though, I mean, it sounds ridiculous, but at the time, I was like, this doesn't feel. You know, it's like they're not taken seriously enough. And I found a drama teacher at this school, John McEnany, who took things so seriously. And some of my best friends were in this school already in this class. And, yeah, my first time acting was, like, in a little black box at this school in Brooklyn, this middle school in Park Slope. And I remember, yeah, getting on that stage for the first time and really feeling, like, a sense of, I don't know, like, focus or presence or something that I hadn't been able to find, like, a real, like, ease.

[B]

Did you feel anything from the audience? Was it a comedy? Did you get a laugh? Or with drama, did you feel that you'd move them?

[D]

It was no, funnily enough, it was like an exercise where we had to have two actors where a monologue was being performed, but there were two actors on stage, and I was the actor not speaking.

[A]

Dream job.

[D]

And. Yeah, but it was amazing to feel like if you could feel focused on the person across from you and really be listening. Like, I felt attention on me, even in silence, just kind of, like, focusing on somebody else. And I felt like, I don't know, my mind wasn't racing. I wasn't like, there is something. And still, that's why I like acting so much. Like, I find I'm so ahead of myself a lot of the time or anxious or, you know, and then when I'm on Set or performing. There's like a real like simplicity or focus or something happens.

[B]

That's really interesting way to put it.

[A]

Yeah. Do you have like a little bit of ADD or something like that? Yeah, same. And then when I'm doing this, I'm working on this play right now and it's a monologue, it's 40 pages. And I find that when I have the one thing like you're saying to focus on, it actually calms my mind.

[D]

Everything else gets kind of quiet.

[A]

And there's something really nice, interesting. Oh, Sean.

[C]

You would describe yourself, Sean, as having a little bit of ADD.

[D]

Did you say 40 pages?

[B]

It's a one man show. It's another way to put a one man show. He's learning.

[C]

I can't believe they bring puppetry of the penis back.

[D]

That's so exciting.

[A]

Where is the show at Studio Seaview, which is. John Krasinski just did his show there last summer, I think. Yeah.

[D]

When does it go up?

[A]

January 31st. It opens.

[B]

I can't make that.

[A]

That's fine.

[C]

I know.

[A]

Oh, no. Well, I think that's. Previews start January 1st anyway. But I know what you mean about it. You being able to focus. It gives you something to focus on that you can put all your energy towards as opposed to.

[D]

Yeah, it's just a calm down feeling very like scattered. That's what my brain works. I feel very scattered.

[A]

And same.

[B]

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[B]

And now back to the show.

[C]

So you find this thing and you're like, I'm locked in. I feel locked. This is something that I respond to and I like. And then you go, you start auditioning for professional roles.

[B]

What happens?

[D]

Yeah, this teacher who was so serious, I mean he had us doing, we did Macbeth and Twelfth Night as 12 year olds back to back. He was just so serious.

[A]

That's crazy.

[C]

Keep it light for the kids.

[B]

How does a 12 year old learn Shakespeare?

[D]

He would wake up, he lived near the school, and he would come to school with, like, nosebleeds when we were doing dress. Like, he was so, like, in it and focused and, you know, he really.

[C]

He was in something.

[D]

I mean, he cared very much about it. And he would send me out on, like, he would go to backstage, which is like, you know, where you could do open casting calls. And I got my first couple jobs, you know.

[C]

Yeah. Going on through backstage.

[A]

Oh, that's great.

[C]

No way. That's so rad. What was the first one? Do you remember?

[D]

I did this off off off Broadway play called the Present, and that was kind of my first job. I think we got paid. I hope. I hope we got paid. But yeah, that was my first job. It was like on the Upper west side.

[C]

And you were in middle school.

[D]

I was in middle school.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

And then I think I got a commercial maybe. And then. And my first movie. They came to do an open casting call at the school, and a great casting director, Cindy Tolan, was casting that film. And she told me, you know, we don't know if this movie's ever gonna come together. It'll take a long time. It was a very small budget film. But she said, you know, you're good at this and you should really audition more. So she wrote me a really great letter to take around to agents and stuff. So I ended up getting an agent.

[A]

That's great. That's great.

[D]

W. Cindy Tolan.

[B]

Now, was singing ever a part of this? I forgot. It was not.

[D]

No, no. Just dance. Yeah.

[B]

So then musical theater was never really a. A draw or a temptation. But how about now? Now that you've taught yourself how to sing, I mean.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Your performance is so mind blowing in the Springsteen thing. I don't want to embarrass you. We don't have to talk about it because I'm sure tired of talking about it. But it's just effing incredible. The fact. And the fact that you learn how to sing in someone else's voice on top of that. And learned how to play guitar, I think.

[D]

Yeah, too.

[C]

So you had to learn how to.

[B]

Play guitar for this role to take.

[D]

On that at least look like I could handle it. Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Wow. Wow. Incredible.

[B]

Huge nards taking that on and doing.

[C]

Such a great job.

[A]

Yeah. Jason was telling. Was going on and on about how. I'm so sorry, I haven't seen it yet, but it's on my list, I swear. But Jason was just raving about your Performance. And as everybody else, he's incredible. I can't wait to see it.

[B]

So now that you've got the singing and the dancing and I don't know if you'd need the guitar part for musical theater, but, like, do you think about doing, like a musical on Broadway or something?

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Like a lala or.

[B]

Yeah. Or film.

[D]

No, I mean, it's never been. I mean, I have no issue. And I've, like, enjoyed musical theater, but it's like, seeing it, but it's never been. Like, in high school, I went to a performing arts school and I would do theater, but it was usually kind of straight plays and stuff. And. Yeah, I don't know, I've never had that. That draw to be in it. I've been. I've been a fan of it.

[B]

You wouldn't run if somebody brought you something, let's say, like, like. Like the new Hamilton kind of thing.

[C]

Or like. Or like, as Sean would mention for 50 times, La La Land. Jesus Christ.

[D]

La La Land 2. I would definitely be interested in doing.

[B]

How about the Christmas sequel, FA La La Land.

[C]

JB that's really good.

[B]

Thanks, guys.

[D]

That is nice.

[A]

Wait, so do you play an instrument now? Like, do you play anything? Piano or anything else?

[D]

No, I mean, I never really learned how to play anything. And I remember I had about six months to learn guitar, which isn't enough time really, to learn how to play the guitar. But I got together with a really great teacher and. And we just learned the couple songs that I needed to learn. But it makes it very hard for me to learn or to play other things now because I didn't learn in a traditional way. So even if I try to learn something else, I kind of end up playing Mansion on a Hill or something. Like, it doesn't. It doesn't translate.

[B]

You still have calluses on the tips of your fingers or have those run away.

[D]

Yeah, they're still a little rough. Really. And I still pick up. I mean, you know, Bruce Springsteen, he was so involved in kind of the process of making the movie and really lovely and supportive all the way through.

[B]

But, yeah, you seem to really love it.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, he's seen it a lot. But he bought me a 1955 Gibson J200, which is the same model. And almost a year he recorded it on 1954. But after our first meeting, he sent me this guitar, which is very beautiful guitar. And so I do pick it up every once in a while just because I feel guilty letting it.

[B]

How cool.

[D]

Collect.

[A]

That's so cool. Yeah.

[B]

Is it there in the office in your. You know what?

[D]

As I said, my house is falling apart. When that rain was happening, I was nervous that there would be some moisture in here, so it's actually under my bed at this point where it's really safe. That's smart.

[C]

You know, obviously, I bought a Christmas tree here yesterday in New York, and I dragged it back. Back to my. My place here. We decorated yesterday.

[A]

Oh, did somebody film it?

[C]

And I thought, you know, yeah, obviously I film everything. And. And I thought about. I thought about it, like, if. If I ever wanted to, I'd have a. I'd have a Christmas tree stand down on Spring street, you know, just this season, and I'd call Spruce of Spring Street. You know what I mean? Just.

[A]

Nice. Nice.

[D]

Bravo.

[A]

That was worth it.

[B]

We'll tighten it up.

[A]

So, Jeremy, so what was the first thing, then, after all that theater experience that got you out to the West Coast?

[D]

I got a job. I was very lucky. Right out of high school, I got a job on a TV show called Shameless.

[A]

Oh, yes, of course. Of course. You were on that. Yeah. Fantastic.

[C]

That you were on for, like, a decade. Am I right about that?

[B]

More.

[D]

I was, man. I was 18 when we did the pilot, and I was 30 when we finished. Wow, wow, wow. Takes you through a lot. 12.

[A]

And that was the first gig or the first big gig I did.

[D]

Yeah, I did some film and, like, every Law and Order and stuff like that when I was in New York. But, yeah, Shameless brought me to Los Angeles and kept me in Los Angeles.

[A]

Yeah. That's so cool.

[D]

That's so cool.

[C]

That's incredible. 18 to 30.

[D]

Yeah. It doesn't happen.

[B]

Right. So you're inside that cocoon, that comfortable cocoon of a series through your whole launch.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And you got great notices through that, and you're meeting everybody and you're getting other opportunities during the hiatuses in between each season? A little bit.

[D]

Yeah, I try to do something, you know. Yeah, I try to do something each hiatus. We shot about five months, and, yeah, if I was lucky, I'd get a movie or I did another, like an Amazon sort of series one time. But, yeah, I mean, I didn't have to. I mean, I was so happy and felt so lucky to have that kind of, like. Like, I don't know, that consistency and kind of continuity in my life, especially in my 20s, especially as an actor, to kind of just have. Have someplace you. You knew where you were going to.

[B]

Be, study employment for four months.

[D]

Every year, five months every year.

[B]

Did you have time to. To. To also have a life? I mean, that's. That takes you all the way through your 20s. Like, that's. That's a time when you really want to have fun. Did you find time to do all that stuff too? It's just.

[D]

Yeah, definitely found time for all that stuff. Yeah. I mean, I bounced around like, we sh. And I got a place back home in New York when I was like, 22. And so I kind of like split my time between LA and New York and then. Yeah. I mean, by the time we finished the show, I had, you know, I had my two daughters. A lot of life happened. Wow, you have two kids, Ezzy and Dolly? Yeah. Yeah. Two daughters. Yeah.

[A]

How old are they?

[D]

Dolly turns 5 on Friday and Ezzy turns 7 in October.

[A]

I mean, you still look like you're 30, which is crazy.

[C]

I know.

[D]

Yeah. Well, we have. How old were we? I mean, I was 27. Yeah. When. As he was born. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

In. In that time, did you ever cross over? I think he wrote on your show. Michael Malley. Didn't he write.

[D]

Oh, my gosh, of course. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

He's a good friend of ours.

[B]

Mike was a writer on show.

[D]

He was on Glee at the same time too, which was like such a huge show. And I was like, oh, wow, you're. You're such a big actor and you're writing on our. Our show.

[B]

Mike's had a really cool career.

[C]

The really cool career, right? Mike's.

[B]

Mike's had a really cool career so far. Yeah. I love that guy. Has he done acting, stand up, writing, producing?

[C]

He's done it all. He's such a talented guy, such a talented writer, and we all. I mean, it just. He's such a great, old, old friend of mine and ours.

[B]

He's that old.

[C]

Well, no.

[A]

Right.

[C]

He's just. He's just the best. We love you, Mike. Anyway, he's a sweetheart. He is a sweetheart. So that takes you through to your. All of a sudden. So now you're 30, and it's weird coming off a show when you've been on it for a long time.

[A]

Right?

[C]

That's a weird.

[D]

Absolutely.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Did you think, like, okay, it's all gonna be downhill from here, 100%.

[D]

I felt totally. I mean, you know, I leave the cocoon. Yeah, I remember. I mean, I really did. We did ADR for the last. For whatever. The last episode of the 11th season of Shameless at Warner Bros. Tracy, that's.

[B]

Where you rerecord some dialogue if it wasn't recorded well on the day. It's sort of a.

[A]

There you go.

[D]

There you go. Yeah, it means kind of the end. It's your last connection often with the thing. And I finished that, and I was driving home from Warner Brothers and had a full panic. I had to pull over. My arms went nut. I was. So, yeah, I mean, it had just been such a comfort. And, you know, I was with those actors for 11 years, and, I mean, they're like my family, brothers and sisters. Like, I got so close with everybody, and I felt like I was saying goodbye to not only kind of like my work environment and that sort of like comfort and security, but also saying goodbye to these people who have been so solid for me for so long. And. Yeah, I just didn't know what was next, and I had a very hard time.

[B]

How did you. What was the thing that was most helpful that got you to. Cause I know that panel well. Yeah. What do you. Did you. Did you lean on a friend? Did you go into therapy? I mean, I'm just citing all the things that I did. Friends, therapy. I partied. I, like, you know, just everything. Yeah.

[D]

Why, I certainly. Yeah, was in therapy and was talking about it a lot and then. But I was also very lucky, like, so, I mean, you know, there's so much luck involved in all of this thing. But, you know, I. I spoke to Chris Storer, who created the bear. He produced this movie. I did the rental, like, after season nine of Shameless. And Chris, I didn't see him on set a lot. He was kind of back and forth. But he comes up to me on kind of the last day, and Chris goes, hey, what do you think you're gonna be doing in three years? And I went, you know, I don't really know. Like, you know, I think I got a couple more years of Shameless.

[C]

And.

[D]

And he goes, all right, buddy, I'm gonna call you in three years. And he walked away. And I was like, what a fucking jerk. Like, what a Hollywood jerk. Like, there's no way I'm ever gonna hear from that guy ever again. And he called me just as we were wrapping up season 11 and said, I have to show the bear. No way. I'd really like you to do it. But I was hesitant at first. Cause it was, you know, I love Chicago, but based in Chicago again. And. And there was some kind of, like, family dynamics that seemed similar upon first read to me. And so I just wasn't sure I'd do it yet. But I Just kept reading the script for the Bear and the pilot and it was so great. And I got to the point where I was just like, you know, it's not my business to pass. I have no right to pass on something this good. So even though I was anxious about the future and all this stuff, I was shooting the pilot for the Bear probably two months after that panic attack, you know, I knew I was going somewhere, so I was able to kind of throw myself into something else.

[B]

Yet it was still just a pilot. Right. So you had to sweat the delivery of that, the reading it or, sorry, watching it and giving it a pickup. Right.

[D]

Fx, I believe, still is one of the. I don't think it's like this kind of inside baseball or. But it's like, you know, I think a lot of shows will go straight to series these days with streaming, but FX continues to sort of. They shoot a pilot, everybody watches it, they see what it looks like. They take a look at what you want to do with the first season.

[C]

Well, they make pretty good shows over there, so. Their treasure.

[D]

They do.

[A]

I have a question about staying in Chicago. So those 11 seasons you did of Shameless and then the Bear, do you find a new place to stay every time you go or do you have a hub that you stay at? Chat.

[B]

What a great question, Sean. That's great, thank you.

[C]

What part of Chicago? Who's your broker?

[D]

So we shot, we shot most of Shameless in la, but we'd go for like a week at a time.

[A]

Oh, I got it. Okay, got it.

[D]

So we'd stay in a hotel.

[A]

I thought you shot the whole thing there.

[D]

No, no, no.

[C]

Yeah, no, first week in showbiz, we do. We're catching.

[D]

We do. We do shoot all of the bear in Chicago and we, we stay all in the same place and it's great, cuz all of us are like on the same floor and we all cook together and eat together and.

[A]

Oh, that's great.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

But yeah, so Apollo 13, the movie, didn't. They didn't film that in space then?

[B]

No, a portion of it.

[C]

Okay, so you get the bear. So now you start doing the bear. So you, you come out of this. By the way, Sean, I was gonna ask you, you also had that thing with like Will and Grace. How long was that on the air?

[A]

That was like a total 11 seasons, but broken up to eight and three.

[D]

So did you feel when that was over?

[A]

Yeah, well, you know, I tried to be self aware. I'm sure these guys did too, during arrest Development that you know when something's working and you have a gig and you have job security and somewhere to go every day and hopefully every year with each season that you start trying to think ahead, like, okay, okay, I'm self aware enough to know that this is working now. I have to use this to get another. I have to make sure I can parlay this into another gig. And as hard as you try, you just can't. Like Jason always says, you can't control it. You can't control, you know, where your career goes. You can try, but it's like, you.

[B]

Know, just kind of do your part.

[D]

You do have to let go. Yeah, we never.

[C]

Well, certainly unarmed. We never had.

[D]

How long was arrested.

[C]

The first incarnation was three years.

[B]

Oh, right.

[D]

But then you guys came back.

[C]

We never had job security. Even when after we won the Emmy, we were like, we were on the verge of being canceled the next week. That's crazy.

[D]

It's such a great show. That's unbelievable.

[B]

Every time we go past the guard shack at studio, we'd wonder if there'd still be a drive on for us.

[D]

But you guys knew how good it was. Everybody, like, you guys could all feel how good it was, right? I mean, it's like a boring dude.

[B]

But it was like. But we were all. We're all a bunch of weirdos on that show. We're like, well, is this going to translate? Are other people going to think this is funny?

[C]

Yes. We never knew. I never had.

[A]

Had.

[C]

I never had that job security. I never had, like a long term job in that way.

[A]

Right.

[C]

I've. I.

[A]

And yet. And yet you work more than literally anybody I know if that's true.

[C]

But it's.

[B]

You're doing okay? Well, yeah.

[A]

All right.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Thank you. So. So you get that. So now you come off that, and then all of a sudden you find yourself, you're shooting the pilot and then the show gets picked up. And could you. Could you have predicted that the bear would make. Would. Would resonate with fans and critics and everybody as much as it did? When.

[B]

Even more so than Shameless?

[D]

Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, you know, I think all of you guys know that the feeling of kind of making something and knowing that it feels exciting and fresh and that you love all the other actors and everybody's doing such great work, but then, you know, that almost doesn't matter. You know, you put something out and will it connect or will anybody watch? It's just a whole other thing. So I think we all knew how exciting it was to Make. And we all hoped we could do more. But I think my greatest hope for the show when we were shooting the first season was like, maybe we can find kind of like a niche sort of market where people in service really dig this show or it's respected by. I think that was the goal is Will Kitchens like this show. Will back of House like this show. Does this seem real? So the fact that it connected with as many people as it did and was watched as much as it has been was definitely a surprise.

[B]

And you're on year. What? You're on year four of the Bear.

[D]

We will start shooting five next year.

[C]

Wow.

[D]

Yeah, wow.

[A]

Think about that. How many episodes a season it changes.

[D]

Sometimes it's 8, sometimes it's 10, but it's always right around there.

[B]

Yeah, that's great. And now you are a great, big movie star on top of it all. Like, how are you gonna stuff it all in, bud?

[D]

Oh, man, I feel like I want to take a. Take a nap. I don't know. I'm very, like, I'm excited to go do the, you know, the next season of the show. And then I'm like. I mean, it's been so lovely what the show has given me, but I'm definitely. I definitely want to hang out at home and take the kids to school and stuff.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cause it does seem like those things.

[B]

There are people that are uniquely suited to constantly be in a public position and sort of do that away from.

[C]

Home and all that stuff.

[B]

And then there are others that. Yeah. That really like to be at home, that are sort of private, that are sort of shy, that it's sort of antithetical to the whole public job. Right. And you do seem to be someone that enjoys. Like me. I. I like. I think all three of us who kind of enjoy being kind of nest. Nesters.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Trying to find a bit of a routine or a little bit of, like, I don't know, rhythm. You know, I. I get very thrown.

[B]

And when you go out, you feel like you got to, like, kind of throw the switch a little bit and kind of. Okay, now we got to kind of do this a bit. But it kind of becomes a part of you. Is that. Has it become a comfortable part of you?

[D]

Which part? Like, just, like, flying around and.

[B]

Yeah. And doing the thing and. And. And. And promoting showing up in the room.

[C]

And every, like, looking at you and.

[B]

Going, like, being a public figure.

[C]

There's Jeremy, you know.

[D]

I mean.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I don't know. I mean, I. I don't think that'll Ever feel for me, like a comfortable thing. But I think you can get better at sort of like hiding your anxiety, perhaps. Yeah, for sure.

[C]

You know. You know what's funny, Jeremy? Like, this weekend, actually, at one point I was on somewhere on social media and a photo came up and as you have, and our friend Jamie, who we just mentioned. Yeah. And. And it. And it was like, scene with Unident, and I was like. Like, there we go. You're there with Jamie, who you work with.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

And then. And then people sort of glob, you know, sort of lobbing comments and seeing, like, who's this person?

[D]

Who's the person? Yeah, who's the person?

[C]

And then. And you're just like, hey, man, the guy's out, he's working, or he's doing this and he's in the city. Like, it's just. And this. That part is bizarre, right? It's just. It never gets really.

[B]

Are you able to see that as kind of fun and funny?

[D]

Yeah, I mean, you know, I love Jamie and I've known her for so long, so, like, that kind of thing is funny. And that's what I get from. For, you know, whatever, staying at the Bowery. But I just. But no, that stuff is. Yeah. It's like, it's strange. You certainly don't get used to it. Like, I have this farmer's market I love to go to and I've gone to for, you know, six, seven years. That's very close to my house, and I go every Sunday and I feel like that thing that was mine or me and my daughter's or like, whatever, that very, like, private, kind of, like, nice routine has kind of been. Yeah. Like, spoiled by that sort of attention. So, yeah, when those things happen, I mean, I understand it comes with, you know, I'm very lucky to be working a career that I've wanted to be in for so long and have these opportunities and this is something that comes with it. But, yeah, none of it is normal, you know, none of it feels normal.

[C]

Do you talk to your. Do you talk to your kids about it? Like, do you explain. Try to explain it to them?

[B]

Are they old enough yet?

[D]

Yeah, I mean, I just try to explain it as, like, people get excited. You know, they know I'm on television and they'll see, like, posters and things. And, you know, I explain that people get excited about kind of thinking they understand a version of your dad, but it's not really your dad. And I'm, you know, you know, me and these people don't really know me, but that's, they get excited because they see this version of me, I guess. But Ezzy, my oldest spots people, you know, quicker than, than I do. She's got like a real like Hawkeye for, for people kind of when someone pretends going through their email, putting up their, their phone or doing a double take, she'll be like, we gotta keep moving. So she's seven, so it's nice that she's sharp. Yeah, I, I'm glad that she's, you.

[C]

Know, I was, I was with somebody once and, and somebody was taking like a sneaky pic of them and then came up and said, can I get a pic? And they said, you already got it.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Respect, you know, Respect.

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[C]

JB what have you. Have you ever. What do you say to your girls? I mean, your girls are older now, but did you say back in the day, have that convo with them?

[B]

I made a mistake early on of.

[C]

We know, but I want to know about this.

[B]

I remember once we were driving past the poster and, and, and one of my daughters said, oh, we were driving to school. And she's like, oh, I can't wait to tell my friends that, you know, you're on a poster. And I, my instinct was, I, I said, no, no, no, you can't do. Don't, don't ever say. And I kind of. Because I didn't want her to be, you know, bragging or like, being like, I try. I overcompensated and kind of. Right.

[D]

It landed in a way that was like, panicked about.

[B]

Right. That you should hide the fact of what your dad does. Like, they almost thought that what I did was a bad thing.

[D]

Right.

[B]

Right. And so I kind of had to undo that. But, you know, what do I. I'd never had kids before his first.

[D]

I mean, how old were. When was. Yeah. How did you guys handle that kind of stuff, you and Amanda?

[B]

It's, you know, you just, you try to keep an eye on what, like, when's the first possible moment they can understand the smart version of this conversation.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You know, and try to have it then as opposed to the dumb version of the conversations, which is what I had. And it's just sort of just like, you know, a big, dull, you know, dumb, blunt instrument, you know, saying, no, this is bad. Don't talk about it. This is, you know, over here is good. And it's just, just was kind of stupid, so I just kind of kicked the can down the road for a bit.

[C]

Yeah, I guess.

[A]

Jeremy, what's your dream role?

[B]

Great. Great. I want to hear this. Yeah. Know, this is great.

[C]

One more thing on Chicago. So what was the commute like from the place you guys were staying?

[D]

Well, Sean, I will. I mean, do you, do you go back a lot like, do you have a restaurant I should be going to that I don't know about? Like, what's going on?

[C]

Slippery slope, Jeremy. Okay, go ahead.

[A]

I love the RL Restaurant. The Ralph Lauren Polo.

[D]

Of course. We get. I mean, that's.

[B]

Come on, really.

[D]

We can all walk. It's the best. Yeah. For lunch, we're there. Chris Door, the creator of the bears there. Every.

[A]

It's a tat, and it's attached to the Ralph Lauren store.

[C]

So you just shop.

[B]

I believe it's Ralph Lauren.

[C]

You know what? The. The one in. The one in Paris is very good, too. It's extra real. Yeah. Really, really good.

[A]

Yeah, but. No, but, Jared, like, is there. Because you have so much going on, you have to balance, you know, like, you said it'd be nice to take my kids to school or whatever. Is there something that's coming up or something that you've always wanted to do where you're just like, I really need to do that. I really want to do that. I have to clip this.

[B]

I can't do it because of kids.

[A]

Or I have to figure it out.

[D]

I don't know. I mean, I don't think of. You know, I kind of take things as they come.

[A]

Like, you were like, I have to play Bruce Springsteen. It was more like a collaborative. Hey, what do you think about this?

[D]

Yeah, I mean, that came. Yeah, Bruce came to me, and the script came to me through Scott Cooper, who's a director I've, like, admired for a really long time, great filmmaker. And I think that's how I always move is sort of, who are the directors, who are the writers, who are the producers? Like, who are the actors I want to work with? So, like, the genre or the world, while those can be, like, very exciting things, are almost secondary to, you know, I really want to work with Paolo Sorrentino, or I really, like, every actor wants to just do like, a line in a Paul Thomas Anderson movie or, you know, that's always kind of what I'm looking for. There's no sort of, like, archetype or world that I'm necessarily like, I need to do this.

[A]

Got it, got it, got it.

[C]

Sean, what about you? Something fun? What would you like to do right now? I'm serious. That somebody said you can pick a genre right now. What would you do?

[A]

I want to play. I told you. I want to play a complete fucking maniacal serial killer. Killer. Or someone who's just. You would never, ever expect me to play. Like, I want to play the super. The super nice guy who Is, you know, affable and kind of just like funny or whatever. And then he rips people's necks apart when nobody's around.

[C]

I mean, that's his mo. That's his mode is he rips people's necks apart.

[A]

That's right. I wrote it down. You want to, you want me to send it to you?

[B]

Okay, again, what kind of weapon would you, would your guy use, Sean?

[A]

Me. Just my hands.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

How about a cake knife?

[C]

How about. Think about it for a second.

[B]

Jesus. Let me get the question.

[C]

Trying to cover up the motivation. Let him finish the. Just my hands.

[A]

But no, you know, kind of like.

[D]

You know, like ripping throats out with your hands.

[A]

You know, like Anthony Hopkins in Silence of the Lambs. When we saw the movie, you're like, you're like, who is this guy? Like, he can't, like. No, he wasn't. I mean, he worked all the time before that, but that was what made him famous. You're like, wow, that's such a cool, crazy he.

[C]

Sean, do we need to go look into your garage? Is this something. Do we need to check your search?

[A]

Everything's fine. Everything's fine.

[C]

Everything's fine.

[B]

Willie. Willie, what about you?

[C]

Yeah, what's that?

[B]

What about, like a drink? You could rub the genie bottle. Next. Next role. Next part.

[C]

It's, it's.

[B]

Or it could be a genre.

[C]

It's the newborn.

[B]

The newborn. You'd like to be, like to do some action work?

[C]

Yeah. In the first scene, Maddie and I battle it out and, and then I, and with the silence, sir, I, I, I take him out.

[B]

And you take his wallet and his identification.

[C]

And I take his identification. And right before he does, he. Damon looks at me and goes, you're the best. And then, and then I take over.

[A]

Wow. But you haven't thought about it.

[C]

Well, I want him to compliment me before.

[B]

You know what I mean, his last words. Now, do you. But in all honesty, if somebody came to you with like a big ass action film right now, would you not think about the fact that the stunt work could be very challenging?

[D]

I feel like that stuff's exciting to me. I mean, that's, yeah. That all. You're younger than we are.

[C]

He's a young guy. Of course not scared of that, Jason?

[B]

No. Well, what about you, Will? Do you think you'd. You'd take. You, Would you say yes to some stunt work? You'd blow out your hammy coming out of your dressing room?

[A]

Coming out of your dressing room.

[C]

I'm out. I'm out.

[D]

I'm out.

[C]

Says you. JB would show up for his first stunt, they'd be like, you can't do this in slippers. But I think that, yeah, I. I would actually think about. More about the time that would take to be away to do something like that. And for sure it would freak me out more than anything, to be honest.

[D]

Yeah, that's looking like six months.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. It is.

[C]

It.

[A]

It is such a big factor in deciding, isn't it? Like, where am I going to be and for how long and what? Yeah, yeah.

[C]

And, and we all have, you know, we have kids and, and you have lives and stuff. And especially at our age. I mean, Jeremy, you're know, you, you're lucky that you're sort of young. You have all these kind of. But for me, I'm like, oh, God, I'm so tired.

[D]

Yeah, you have, you have a young one. You have.

[C]

I do. Yeah, I do. I have a 5 year old. I have a 5 year old and a 15 year old and a 17 year old. So these are like.

[D]

You are tired.

[C]

Yeah, I am tired. And these are. Although my 5 year old slept through the night last night, which he hasn't been doing for a while, but he did last night, which was a big. Even though I look crazy exhausted.

[B]

Does he sleep in bed with you? No, no, because that, that, that's a super slow.

[C]

But it is a slippery. You know, sometimes I'll go down and sort of get in and, and, and sort of calm him down and stuff like that if he wakes up in the night. But yeah, he's. He's not a great sleeper. But anyway, we're getting, you know. Hey, listen, it's cool. I'm 55.

[A]

Hey, Jer, when you can, you can. You were. Sure, why not? I don't have. I don't have the time. Time.

[C]

Do people call you Jared? You have. Are you called Jer by your friends? Jer?

[D]

Yeah, Jer. J. Bears. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

How about. How about Jaw Dog?

[D]

Yeah, Jaw Dog is. Yeah. A lot jaw.

[B]

Truly.

[D]

Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Jaw was in like middle school, high school on the bear. On the bear set. Jaw Dog is really around this. I'm being genuine. Yes.

[B]

I love that. Jaw Dog.

[A]

Yes, of course.

[D]

Well, my, My initials. Yeah. J. W. Yeah, yeah, I got it.

[A]

We can do the math. Okay, so listen, but when. Cause I know what you mean.

[C]

Sean, your hair is distracting. I will say.

[A]

I know it looks. I gotta get it cut. I'm getting it cut.

[B]

Yeah. What time's the gig later on? You just Cover all Flock of Seagulls and nothing else, Right?

[A]

No, I have a figure skating gig next. A little bit, but. Jer, do you have. Cause I was talking about the anxiety thing and stuff. Like, do you. Can you. When you're not working and you have family, can you shut it off and not think about agents and lawyers and deals and scripts and all that stuff? Can you completely separate or is it always kind of there?

[D]

I think, yeah. I mean, that's, you know, when I'm around. Yeah. My kids. That you're forced to just. You have to be completely present. It's like, so. So I guess that's. Yeah. The second time I found kind of real peace or focus is. Yeah. And having kids, everything just kind of like narrows and you're like, oh, this is it. This is, you know, this is where my attention is. This is where I want to be. This is, you know. Right. And so, yeah, I'm able to do that when I'm home. Yeah.

[A]

For sure.

[B]

And when it's not. Not kids. When it's not. What else are you do. Like, what is just you? What do you do to completely decompress? No work, no kids. Something stupid. Something settling. Is there? What. What would we be surprised to learn is your weird ass hobby or your shitty TV show that you watch?

[D]

I mean, I watch.

[B]

I.

[D]

Well, okay, so I'm obsessed with like, reality real estate shows. And I'm like, always on my Realtor app. I don't buy anything, but I like to fantasize about, like, buying stuff all the time.

[A]

That's why these shows are so popular.

[C]

They do too. The three of us.

[D]

Insane. I send listings to friends and they're like, just buy it. Then like, what do you like, what do you want from me? And I'm like, no, I don't know. I don't know.

[B]

Wait, so like those like, weird realtors.

[A]

Million dollar listing.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Owning Manhattan. Just very excited. My guy, Ryan Sirhant. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Brian Sirhant is like, incredible. Came from nothing and built an empire.

[D]

I'm very impressed by that, man. Yes.

[A]

No, but I mean, it's cool.

[D]

No, yeah, but that's my. Like, I, you know, I just like look at stuff if I'm visiting, like, I don't know, I'm like traveling for work or even like, I like doing road trips. And if I'm in a small town I think is really sweet, instantly I'm kind of on like Zillow or the Realtor app. And I'm like, what if I. What if I got another Place here. What if I just, like, you know, would come here all the time?

[B]

What is that? I do the same thing wherever I go. I'm immediately thinking about getting a place there. Is it? Because that's how I could feel like, at home there, so I'm not homesick. Yeah.

[D]

Maybe it's a way to try to, like, get some control over. I feel like a lot of it comes back to control for me. Yeah, exactly.

[B]

I want to be a local immediately.

[C]

What's the weirdest place that you ever, like, seriously considered? Like, maybe I will get a place here. Was there ever one of those?

[D]

Bisbee, Arizona. Wow. Really? I was really considering. Yeah. I did a road trip. I've driven cross country like four or five times, and I did one from LA to New York in December. This was like, I don't know, 10 years ago. And the first stop was Bisbee, Arizona, which is like a very small town. It looks kind of like Laurel Canyon. Like, the buildings are very pastel colors and it's kind of hilly, but it's in the middle of nowhere. It's like desert, desert, desert. Very small town, but very sweet. And we spent the night there in a bed and breakfast. Got up the next day was like, walking around talking to locals. And everybody I spoke to, like, nobody was from Bisbee. Everybody was just passing through. And then they opened a sandwich shop or they opened a clothing store. And it started to feel a little like Twilight episode Y where I was like, oh, maybe this is one of those towns you stop in and you just. You can't get out of. And I did get out, but then for about six months I was considering getting like, a little house in Bisbee, Arizona.

[B]

Now, what about these drives across country? Did you ever have a big run in with a cop? Do you like to speed?

[D]

I didn't. I'm really responsible on the road.

[B]

You are. So you do the speed limit across the country.

[D]

I go 10 above the speed limit. Limit.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah, it's. You set the cruise control, they won't nab you.

[D]

I just keep going at 10. Yeah, just. But I did get a flat in St. George when I was driving cross country a couple years ago. In the middle of the night, there was no one around. I didn't have cell service. And that was spooky.

[A]

That's the worst.

[D]

And then I. And then I finally got a cop stopped and I got a spare and I was going to spend the night in Vegas. I was on my way back to la, but there was like a fight night and everything was Booked, everything. I'm talking like Holiday Inns were booked. All the nice hotels were booked. Eventually I got a hotel room. It was like the only hotel room left in Las Vegas. But it was like $2,000 for the night. Oh my God, it had a bowling alley. It was like so absurd. So I spent $2,000 to like lie down at 2am and then pretty much get up at 6am to go get a real tire put on the car.

[B]

Right, because you just had a little.

[D]

Pizza cutter back to la. I just needed to sleep. Yeah.

[A]

Just slept in your car.

[D]

I should have. I should have.

[A]

That's what I'm here for.

[C]

Another thing for you. The list for your time machine.

[A]

I know what you mean about that. Real like anytime Scotty and I go anywhere, we immediately go. I always ask them like, could you live here, could you live here, could you live there? And it's always.

[C]

Those are mainly like, like Duncan franchises and stuff like that, right?

[A]

No, but like it's always the same thing. Where I think I would go. I think the idea of living smaller in a quaint town like Bisbee or whatever is great. But then the reality is, I don't know, this New York or LA or Miami or Chicago. The city really keeps you kind of going and alive.

[B]

And it's like I'd feel too isolated, I think. Yeah, a little bit. I need some big towns too.

[C]

You're for two things. A Sean that is. Sean does do that. Because I know for a fact you, Sean will go even further. He won't even just look at online. He'll go and look at property with a local realtor.

[A]

100%.

[C]

He does it. He does it all the time.

[A]

All the time.

[D]

Oh, whoa.

[C]

Yes.

[D]

Commitment and. But you bought and. And you'll pull the trigger.

[A]

No, God, no.

[D]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A]

I just thought he's wasting these people.

[C]

He's wasted so many realtors time, it's not even funny.

[B]

He's like realtor thinks I got a real. A real whale. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

But the other thing that I've noticed. Sorry, go ahead, Sean.

[A]

No, I just skipped that idea, Jeremy. The idea like, do you come from a small town and you prefer cities now or. No, I could actually.

[C]

He's from Brooklyn.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Here I'm at the start of the show.

[A]

I know, but like Brooklyn isn't like, you know, Brooklyn's city. Like so do you go on. Do you prefer the opposite of that as you get older? Cause you didn't grow up that way. Maybe.

[D]

I mean, yeah, I definitely like the idea of maybe one day having a place that's more slow moving and I have, you know, a smaller place in la, or if I'm back in New York, I have an apartment in the city and go upstate or.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Long island or something like that.

[B]

You ever see yourself getting like, a bunch of land and being like one of those guys with a bunch of, like, ranch, ranch tools and again, like.

[D]

The fantasy of it. Yeah, I think.

[C]

Stuff that the prop department hands you.

[B]

Yeah. You know, one of those cap guns.

[C]

Holding it upside down.

[D]

Mr. Bateman, I'd be so useless. I think for a week.

[C]

Week.

[D]

It could be fun. Yeah. Have the fantasy of it. But very quickly I'd realize there's no.

[C]

I could see you upstate. I could see you upstate or on Long Island.

[D]

Yeah, I have some friends that are, that are up there. And, and it's, and, you know, I, I think it's Swede and, and then, and then, yeah, Long Island, I think, is, is really nice. And I had, I rented a place last summer there that I really loved. And, and we love and, and, yeah, and my, all my people. My, my folks are still in Brooklyn. My sister's in Brooklyn.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

That's great. So I like going back there and being close.

[B]

Well, personally, I'd like you stay here in Los Angeles.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You can see each other.

[D]

Yeah, it is nice. What was the last movie? What was the last movie night?

[B]

It's been a while. I mean, I'm still watching them. Yeah. But the door is still unlocked. A jar, even waiting for you people.

[C]

Less creepy would be great. Just a little less creepy would be nice.

[B]

That's the name of my autobiography.

[D]

The Door's a Jar, the Door's a Jar.

[B]

Oh, God.

[C]

God, it's so gross. Jimmy, you're the man. Just. You are the man, man.

[D]

I appreciate you.

[A]

It's just incredible.

[C]

No, listen, we're all continued success. Congrats on all of it. It's so well deserved. You've worked hard for it and you've been just consistently great all the way along. So, yeah, we're big, we're big, big fans. I, I, I speak for Sean. Jason has his own take on, on it, which is a little more lascivious.

[B]

But no, I'm not there yet.

[C]

Okay. Okay.

[D]

I'm working on him.

[B]

I'm trying to play hard to get. I really appreciate it you get over here. Again, this is a pleasure.

[D]

Thank you. Thank you. Nice to meet you guys. You're the best.

[B]

See you soon, man.

[D]

See you. See you.

[B]

Will. Did you get that full plate of food done.

[A]

I know.

[C]

First of all, he said, you're the best. And he's looking at me. Do you see that?

[B]

No. He was my box.

[C]

My box. He was looking me.

[B]

You had a full plate of food delivered to you at the beginning of the interview. Did you get it all done? What is it? It was like matzo bread.

[C]

Like a chicken. Chicken salad.

[B]

Chicken salad, yeah. It would seem like somebody was on their hands and knees down there at the, the door opening. What was.

[C]

She didn't want to interrupt. She didn't want Carolyn.

[A]

No, it was Carolyn.

[B]

That was Carolyn on her hands and knees.

[C]

She wasn't on her hands and knees. She bent down to put it on the, at the door cuz she didn't want to interrupt. She was being very responsible, respectful.

[B]

She should have come in, said hi.

[A]

I love her.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Love her. Don't you mess that up, Will.

[C]

Oh my God. Jesus.

[B]

If it starts to get wobbly, you just hand it over and let us fix it and then we'll give it back. That's how relationships work, right?

[D]

Yeah, sure.

[C]

That's exactly how it works. Get over.

[B]

Oh my God.

[A]

I'm out of milk.

[C]

Sean. Sean. Is this the same snickerdoodle?

[B]

Yeah, just killed it. Killed the last bite. Good boy.

[A]

There's some more left.

[B]

Well, how great is he?

[A]

I've never met him.

[B]

Oh, he's just the greatest.

[C]

He's such a nice guy. I've only met him. He's so nice.

[A]

Good, normal person.

[B]

Great. It would have been great up there on that stage. Are we going to reschedule that? Are we going to do, we going to do the bowl? Maybe like in the spring or something like that. Maybe.

[C]

Let's make a commitment that we're going.

[B]

To do something spring, summer.

[A]

Yeah. Why don't we do the bowl or let's for sure do it when it's not rainy.

[B]

Can't do it in the summer because they do the, the, the, the, the philharmonic there in the summer every night. It's, most of it's programmed.

[A]

Why can't you do it over the summer? Or what about the beginning?

[B]

La La fills in there through the summer.

[C]

December or like octo you before the rain starts.

[B]

Don't argue with me. I, I, I'm happy to do it at any point. I think it's all about the guests. When, when could we get guests in there? Yeah, you're right.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know, we got to, we got to get some big shot guests cuz we're, we're not cutting it, okay? People aren't coming out to see us just blather on, sitting on a couch. They want to go.

[A]

Wait, how did you and Jeremy meet again?

[B]

Grindr.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

Jb, I didn't. I don't. Jb, you didn't know this? Sean didn't want to say because he's embarrassed because the same guy created the bear Sean is about to do. They're doing the spin off. He's doing the cub. It's a different show. Different.

[A]

Doing the cup.

[C]

It's on you. It's on YouTube or it's on porn. Porn tube or whatever.

[A]

But whatever.

[C]

It doesn't matter. Hey, listen. Sounds fun. Sounds fun.

[A]

By the way, when I saw the title of the bear, I was like, I'm in. Click.

[C]

Oh, it's about a restaurant.

[A]

Click off. People talking about food.

[B]

Wait, is Grinder. Is Grindr the hetero one or the. The gay one?

[C]

Nice try.

[B]

Which one?

[C]

Listen.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

Hey, I'm confused. What are you doing here? I'm so confused.

[B]

Hand of God. I'm like, kid's life. I don't. Which is. Which is. Which.

[A]

Which is what? What are you asking?

[B]

Is it Tinder? One of them's the gay one.

[A]

Yeah, Grinder is the gay one.

[C]

Nervous?

[B]

Want to make sure they get that on?

[A]

We're still recording. Count. Wait, you know, I. When Jeremy was playing Bruce Springsteen.

[C]

Oh, boy, here we go. Jesus.

[A]

There is a song that I wonder. Because I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen the show. Oh, yeah. And I wonder if he sang the song in the movie called Johnny Bye Bye. Do you know that song that.

[C]

At least commit to it.

[B]

No, I was just like, go right.

[D]

Bye bye.

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