SmartLess Podcast Episode Summary
Title: John Lithgow
Host/Authors: Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett
Release Date: March 24, 2025
Introduction
In this episode of SmartLess, hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett are delighted to welcome the esteemed actor John Lithgow. The conversation delves deep into Lithgow's illustrious career, his early beginnings in theater, his notable roles, personal anecdotes, and his approach to acting. Throughout the episode, guests share heartfelt and humorous moments, offering listeners an intimate glimpse into Lithgow’s life and craft.
Early Life and Theatrical Beginnings
John Lithgow recounts his introduction to acting at the tender age of two, participating in a production of Henrik Ibsen's A Doll's House alongside his father.
- John Lithgow [07:18]: "I was a theater rat from... the first acting I ever did, I was about two years old, one of Nora's children in A Doll's House with my father playing Torvald."
Growing up in a family deeply rooted in theater, Lithgow was exposed to Shakespearean productions through his father's Shakespeare festivals. This immersion fostered his passion for acting from a young age.
- John Lithgow [08:12]: "From a very young age, I thought I should be an artist. I wanted to be an artist."
Lithgow attended Harvard, majoring in English, history, and literature. Despite his scholarly pursuits, his environment naturally steered him toward acting, leading him to become a campus star.
- John Lithgow [11:30]: "I had just been around actors... I had lived in that world, so it just came very naturally."
Career Highlights and Notable Roles
John Lithgow's versatility as an actor shines through as he discusses his diverse roles across television, film, and theater.
Third Rock from the Sun
Lithgow reflects on his time in the sitcom Third Rock from the Sun, describing it as one of the happiest periods of his acting career.
- John Lithgow [16:39]: "I absolutely loved it. Just, I consider those... It was like the six happiest years as an actor."
He also shares humorous behind-the-scenes moments, including awkward interactions with co-stars and memorable on-set experiences.
The Crown: Portraying Winston Churchill
A significant highlight of the conversation is Lithgow's portrayal of Winston Churchill in The Crown. He discusses the depth and complexity of bringing such an iconic figure to life.
- John Lithgow [27:02]: "I have to play Emperor Alfred... He was quite an anomaly, and I think that came in handy."
Lithgow emphasizes the personal aspects of Churchill, exploring his childhood insecurities and personal struggles, which added layers to his performance.
- John Lithgow [28:33]: "He was growing up a failure with very neglectful parents and just feeling like a screw up."
Conclave and Other Projects
Lithgow also touches upon his recent work in Conclave, highlighting the collaborative effort with a talented cast and the challenges of shooting in diverse locations like Rome.
- John Lithgow [31:35]: "That was a fabulous job. That was two months in Rome with Stanley Tucci and Isabella Rosselli."
Approach to Acting and Craft
Lithgow shares his philosophy on acting, emphasizing adaptability and the importance of collaboration with fellow actors.
- John Lithgow [32:20]: "We don't do nearly as much choosing as everybody thinks we do. You just wait. You wait for good things and good people and good writers."
He discusses how interacting with exceptionally talented actors like Ralph Fiennes and Geoffrey Rush enriches his own performances, creating a dynamic on-screen synergy.
- John Lithgow [43:49]: "There's a minimum of two, because it's all about the interaction and playing off each other."
Personal Life and Balancing Act
Balancing a demanding acting career with personal life, Lithgow speaks candidly about his family dynamics and the logistics of living between Los Angeles, New York, and London.
- John Lithgow [37:06]: "I've been married 43 years to my wife Mary... We have a little cabin on a lake in northwestern Montana and we... That's kind of our runaway place."
He highlights the support of his wife, Mary, a UCLA professor, and the importance of maintaining a stable home environment amidst his international commitments.
Anecdotes and Behind-the-Scenes Stories
Throughout the episode, Lithgow shares entertaining anecdotes that showcase his humorous side and the unpredictable nature of acting.
Golden Crutch Award Incident
Will Arnett recounts a high school incident where he tripped while accepting an award, leading to an embarrassing yet humorous moment.
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Will Arnett [54:29]: "I had it in my hand and I tripped and I knocked the tooth out of Missy Vogelsinger's mouth."
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Sean Hayes [55:37]: "And it was so, very embarrassing."
Tony Award Mishap
Lithgow describes a memorable moment during a Tony Award-winning performance where he inadvertently exposed himself on stage, navigating the situation with professionalism and humor.
- John Lithgow [56:06]: "I reached down and sort of flicked it inside my... And I would say that was by far the most embarrassing."
Reflections on the Acting Industry
Lithgow offers insightful commentary on the challenges actors face, including the unpredictability of roles and the emotional impact of being cut from projects.
- John Lithgow [59:01]: "I must have the record for the most Tony awards won by actors in roles that I turned down."
He emphasizes the importance of resilience and maintaining trust in the creative process, advising young actors to embrace opportunities and remain open to collaboration.
Final Thoughts
As the episode concludes, Lithgow expresses his gratitude for the opportunity to share his experiences on SmartLess, highlighting the enriching conversations and the enduring connections within the acting community.
- John Lithgow [64:03]: "It's real. I've always loved this show and I was very honored to be on it."
The hosts and Lithgow share a heartfelt farewell, celebrating the depth and breadth of his career and the lasting impact of his work in the entertainment industry.
Notable Quotes
- John Lithgow [07:18]: "I was a theater rat from... the first acting I ever did..."
- John Lithgow [27:02]: "...this is no small thing."
- John Lithgow [28:33]: "He was growing up a failure with very neglectful parents..."
- John Lithgow [32:20]: "We don't do nearly as much choosing as everybody thinks we do."
- John Lithgow [43:49]: "There's a minimum of two, because it's all about the interaction..."
- John Lithgow [59:01]: "...the most Tony awards won by actors in roles that I turned down."
This episode of SmartLess offers an engaging and comprehensive exploration of John Lithgow's career and personal life, enriched with humor, heartfelt moments, and profound insights into the art of acting. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to Lithgow's work, this conversation provides valuable perspectives on his enduring legacy in the entertainment world.