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Jason Bateman
Guys, welcome to today's podcast. How are you both feeling?
Will Arnett
Does somebody have a gun to your head?
Jason Bateman
Yeah. Well, it's just out of frame. And it's not so much a gun as a crossbow.
Will Arnett
I've never seen this.
Sean Hayes
A crossbow. Welcome to.
Jason Bateman
Have you ever shot a crossbow?
Sean Hayes
Oh, no.
Jason Bateman
Did I blow it? Welcome to Smartless.
Will Arnett
Smart.
Kieran Culkin
Less.
Will Arnett
Smart.
Jason Bateman
Less.
Will Arnett
Smart. Less.
Jason Bateman
Surprise guest. Give us a little snap or a clap, please.
Sean Hayes
Cracker.
Jason Bateman
Oh, hi.
Sean Hayes
Hi.
Will Arnett
Hi. How are you guys? How are you?
Sean Hayes
Can I just dive right in?
Will Arnett
Yeah, do you mind?
Jason Bateman
Oh, you. You have some prepared material. Go ahead.
Sean Hayes
I don't know. I have prepared. Guys. I was in the ER again last night. Here's why. Here's what? I had a kidney stone. I thought I was having appendicitis or something. So I have a kidney stone and so I haven't been to bed yet.
Jason Bateman
Wait, how have you not. Why did you not cancel this record?
Sean Hayes
Yeah, no, it's fine. I'm fine. I'm actually in a good buddy.
Jason Bateman
It would have been such a quick text for me. How? I hear that's the most painful thing in the world.
Sean Hayes
You can't even know. I haven't had one in years and years.
Will Arnett
So you had one out or you had one put in?
Sean Hayes
I had one. So the pain was. Excuse me. I'm like, oh, Scotty, I got it. Scotty, I gotta the er. It was awful.
Jason Bateman
Can you tell me where it hurts? Is it in the tinky or is it in the kinky?
Sean Hayes
No, it's in the. It's in your side. Yeah, it's I'm going to say it's in your kidney. Yeah.
Will Arnett
Hey. Hey.
Sean Hayes
And then I'm still a little bit on morphine. I still like have a. Oh, that's a sisle.
Will Arnett
That's kind of fun. That is fun. Wait a second. So, Shani, so you're in the hospital last week or whenever it was for a couple, Couple times.
Sean Hayes
And then like a month ago.
Will Arnett
Yeah, right. Twice in that one night. And then.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah. And then this.
Will Arnett
And then you're back and then you get the full scope thing that you went and had done. And then you have this. And my question to you is this.
Sean Hayes
Yes. Yeah, yeah.
Will Arnett
Are you paying so much attention to your well being and your condition that your body. You know what I mean?
Sean Hayes
What do you mean?
Jason Bateman
No, that was a half a sentence.
Will Arnett
Yeah, that, that, that. Because you're so. I'm not saying that the experience isn't real.
Sean Hayes
Oh, well, yeah, it's a.
Will Arnett
Obviously it's real. But, but, but there is a lot of attention paid to your health and to your condition at all.
Jason Bateman
You're saying, is he. Is he potentially creating some of this stuff by having such a look at it?
Sean Hayes
Because.
Jason Bateman
Psychosomatic.
Will Arnett
I should have prefaced it by saying I'm not a doctor. And I think that you guys, you're.
Jason Bateman
On morphine too, so.
Will Arnett
Yeah. And also not from.
Sean Hayes
No, but it's like a cycle. I know what you mean. But it's a cycle because if something happens to me, then I want. I fear that I don't want that thing to happen again.
Will Arnett
I'm not saying it's psychosomatic, but I am. But I am suggesting that maybe you spend so much time and energy thinking about your health and your own condition that if you were to think about other things or other people, you do think about other people. You're a very thoughtful person. But I wonder, do you know what I mean? I don't. Again, I don't know.
Sean Hayes
People are going to be.
Jason Bateman
But he's being careless with the food that he eats, you know, so that's sort of like keeping his eye off the ball and being sort of lax.
Sean Hayes
And that is true.
Will Arnett
You know, it's surprising for somebody who's so concerned with their health because you are quite on top of it, that.
Jason Bateman
You should start smoking and you know, like me.
Sean Hayes
You know what, though? I was lying there, I just had like bed head and I have these scabs in my ankles and I had this IV in my arm and I looked at Scotty and I go, I look to Scotty and I go, all this could be yours.
Jason Bateman
Can I ask you about where the scabs from the ankles?
Will Arnett
Yeah. Can I ask too?
Sean Hayes
They just.
Will Arnett
Well, not to see them, just where they came from.
Sean Hayes
I don't know, they just like, I don't know, just dry skin or whatever.
Will Arnett
Wait, so now you've just got like old man scabs?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, yeah, he's got old man scabs.
Will Arnett
I know Sean. I imagine walking into the gym at Sean's gym, walking into the men's locker room and he's got a hairdryer to his nut sack. He's one of those guys. And you're like, fuck, man. Morning, dude. How you doing? Like, dude, these won't drive, dude. Dude. What are you. Funny.
Sean Hayes
By the way, Jay, I. I switched the Nutcracker to the 21st if you want to go.
Jason Bateman
Oh, you did? Okay, great.
Sean Hayes
If. And Willie, please come if you want.
Will Arnett
I'm going to go. I'm going to be back on the. In New York.
Sean Hayes
Okay. And Jay, we're going anyway, so if you can go, great. If not, we'll do something else.
Will Arnett
Jay. And are you going to be just you or are you going to bring your nutcracker with you?
Jason Bateman
No, she'll be there. It's just a great. It's a great. A great blow to the coffee chat. And here comes our guest.
Sean Hayes
Nice.
Will Arnett
Wait a second. I just want to say one more thing. I was just thinking about this and I. And I obviously I smoke from time to time and people don't smoke. I feel like I'm a world class smoker.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, you're great at it. You are.
Will Arnett
I really do.
Jason Bateman
And I feel like you never smell like cigarettes. You don't. You don't smoke a pack a day.
Will Arnett
Thank you. Thank you very much. Obviously they're going to play this clip at my. You know, TMZ will play this clip, but it should be noted. It's fine. It's so great, isn't it?
Jason Bateman
It's a hard thing to beat. Although, you know, when I quit, they didn't have the vapes and the gums and the stickers and shit. So there are. There are things to replace it now.
Will Arnett
Yeah, there are things to replace it.
Jason Bateman
You know what you're going to. You got a lot of shit and you're. You'll get to it when you want to get to it. No, no one's pushing you.
Sean Hayes
I know there are things to replace it, but there's nothing to replace our guest.
Will Arnett
You don't even know who our Guest is. But you're actually right, though.
Jason Bateman
Let Morphine Molly go, by the way.
Will Arnett
Did you know I was about to say that?
Sean Hayes
No, no.
Will Arnett
But one of my sort of cheap segues. By the way, I did move today from where I'm doing the podcast because I wanted to be a little bit cheerier. Oh, okay, good.
Jason Bateman
Oh, yeah, yeah. You used to be in the whisper booth.
Will Arnett
Now you're now in my office. Just because I wanted. I just wanted to be in a. Yeah, I wasn't in the Jack Shack. I forgot about my Jack Shack.
Sean Hayes
Remember the Jack Shack?
Jason Bateman
The Goo Room?
Will Arnett
I think it's the Jack Shack. It's covered in cobwebs. I think they're cobwebs. Okay. But you are right. You are right that our guest today cannot be replaced and certainly won't be forgotten. I don't know why we'd even begin to forget, because this person is so alive and vibrant right now and has been for a long time.
Jason Bateman
Snaps and clicks were great.
Will Arnett
You'll like this. They were really good. Those are the mark of. Those are the kind of snaps and clicks of somebody who has confidence. The confidence, longevity in doing what they do. And I tell you, somebody who loves longevity is old, jb.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
And you're gonna love this guy because you have a lot. You have certain things in common in that both of you have been performing since you were really, really young on a professional level. And I love guests like this and particularly love this guest, whom I do not know, because they are so fucking talented.
Jason Bateman
Kurt Russell.
Will Arnett
Funny and cool and smart. It's not Kurt Russell, but this person has been nominated for Shirley maclain, Emmys, Golden Globes, everything. You can't even imagine the number of films. Sally Strothers, you know him from Igbe Goes Down. You know him from Scott Pilgrim Versus the World.
Jason Bateman
You Michael Cera.
Will Arnett
No, it's not Michael. Ceramic Edgar Wright. No. You also know him from Soderbergh's no Sudden Move, but you're really gonna know him really, really, really, really, really well from his new film A Real Pain.
Jason Bateman
But also mostly Jesse Eisenberg.
Will Arnett
Succession.
Jason Bateman
Kieran Culkin.
Will Arnett
It's Kieran Culkin, God damn it.
Jason Bateman
Finally got it.
Will Arnett
Bateman. Bateman. You ruined the intro. When it's just constant guessing.
Jason Bateman
Sally Strothers was close, though.
Kieran Culkin
Sally Strothers.
Jason Bateman
That was very close.
Kieran Culkin
That was not. Shirley McLean was pretty close, too. Yeah, I thought.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Oh, Kieran, I'm so happy to see you.
Kieran Culkin
It's crazy. This is really exciting for me. This is One of my favorite shows.
Will Arnett
This has been a long time coming. We had a few times where we were gonna have Kieran on, and then. And then we couldn't, for various reasons.
Sean Hayes
That we wanted Kieran. Yes.
Will Arnett
So he's.
Kieran Culkin
And look, I canceled for bullshit like a month ago. And Sean, you can't. You didn't even cancel. You were in the emergency room.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. What, Jay, what were you gonna say?
Jason Bateman
Well, I just. I just was. Wanted to Frame up the 90 second delay on Sean there going, oh, yes, it's Kieran.
Sean Hayes
Just then.
Jason Bateman
No fucking morphine is right.
Sean Hayes
No, no, because I remember he was supposed to be on. I didn't know who it was. But you must have been that guest that we had an issue.
Will Arnett
Yes, Yes.
Kieran Culkin
Y. Not kidney stones.
Will Arnett
Yeah, but it was beyond his control. Have you ever had a kidney stone? Have you ever seen one?
Kieran Culkin
No. To me, that's my biggest nightmare. But I thought the. Like you said, I thought the pain came from the pee. Pee, not the.
Sean Hayes
No, it starts. It starts in your back in the kidney. That's why it's a kidney stone. And then it works way through to the bladder. And now it's out. So it's sitting in my bladder. So I have another painful thing coming when I pee it out.
Will Arnett
Because you're going to pee it out.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, because when you pee it out, that's when it hurts. But it only hurts for five, you know, two seconds.
Kieran Culkin
Because they break it down. Right, don't they? Like. Right.
Sean Hayes
If it's big. This one wasn't big.
Jason Bateman
I think they also have a small tool that can spread your aperture there at the end of your tinky. And.
Will Arnett
The miatas.
Jason Bateman
The dime slot, it's a clamp.
Kieran Culkin
When does that come in?
Jason Bateman
A reverse clamp.
Will Arnett
A dime slot.
Kieran Culkin
When does that come out? When is that?
Will Arnett
Do you just, like, wait until January 15th. Right. Is President's Day weekend. Is that.
Kieran Culkin
Buy a new mattress, pee out a kidney stone.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah, we're gonna. It's gonna be a huge opening weekend.
Jason Bateman
Wait, Shawnee, is that. Is that truly. The next stage is the breakdown. And then the pee out.
Sean Hayes
Your body breaks it down. I mean. No, your body doesn't break it down. It just passes through. What is that? The thing that. The tube that goes from your kidney to your bladder.
Jason Bateman
Urethra.
Kieran Culkin
Penis.
Sean Hayes
No, that's the. Your penis. Hole tube.
Jason Bateman
Pee tube.
Kieran Culkin
Oh, God.
Sean Hayes
Something like that. Anyway. And it hangs out in the bladder. Anyway. Karen, how are you?
Kieran Culkin
Bunch of doctors. This is great. We're doing. We're doing so well.
Jason Bateman
Welcome to Our show.
Kieran Culkin
This is. I love. I love this. This is exactly what I thought I'd be talking about. A of I got my wife, or rather, Santa Claus got my wife a hoodie last year that said, explain it to me like I'm Tracy.
Jason Bateman
No, come on.
Kieran Culkin
You should sue, because I didn't buy it through you. That's. That's merch money that you guys.
Jason Bateman
Is that an Etsy? Is that an Etsy?
Kieran Culkin
It was, like, something. I think. I think it was. Or, like, Red Bubble or one of those things, you know?
Will Arnett
Wait, hang on a second.
Jason Bateman
I don't want to run around Tracy. I want one of those.
Sean Hayes
I do, too.
Will Arnett
Hang on. I do want to say one thing.
Kieran Culkin
I can also talk at the same time.
Will Arnett
No, you can't. I can't believe that JB knows about Etsy. That's the thing that I'm most shocked.
Sean Hayes
How do you know about Etsy?
Jason Bateman
Dude, where do you think I get my throat pillow pillows?
Will Arnett
I don't know, Karen.
Sean Hayes
My sister is a big fan of yours, by the way.
Kieran Culkin
As am I. Oh, wait, Tracy's.
Jason Bateman
That's Tracy.
Kieran Culkin
You haven't seen anything of mine, right? Haven't you guys not watched Succession?
Will Arnett
I'm gonna make a sweatshirt that says, find somebody who loves you the way that Tracy loves Kieran. Why don't. Why don't we just say that?
Kieran Culkin
Get that one, Karen.
Jason Bateman
I do want to get this out of the way. I am very embarrassed to say I am the only person on the planet that is yet to start. Only because I'm very serious about my ingestion of quality product. Ye. I'm waiting till I can sit down and just suck it up like the addict that I am.
Sean Hayes
And it's one of the. It's one of the biggest shows ever.
Jason Bateman
Everybody I know loves it. I've never heard a bad thing about.
Will Arnett
It, and I'm embarrassed to say I started it, and then I got. And then I was like, okay, I got to restart it, and I have it. But I did see most of season one. You are so fucking funny, dude. And so facile and so quick. You can tell that it's. Obviously, it's really well written and there's a great cast, but you have a facility to you that is really unique and really, like, impressive. Do you know what I mean?
Kieran Culkin
Thank you.
Jason Bateman
It seems very. I have seen enough clips of not only that, but everything else you've ever done. I've seen those things. You do seem very comfortable with what you do.
Sean Hayes
Yes, you are.
Jason Bateman
And that's, like, it's fun to watch.
Kieran Culkin
That's lately.
Jason Bateman
Well. Well, then you were a greater actor than I thought you were because you always looked like you're having fun. You're not working too hard in the best sense of the phrase. And as a viewer, you're just. You're relaxed watching you do your thing because it looks you're having fun and you're not stressing about your performance and are you hitting your beats and you know. Oh, God, no.
Kieran Culkin
I don't hit beats. Yeah. Or marks or any of that stuff.
Jason Bateman
You're right. You're rad. I can't wait to see real pain.
Kieran Culkin
About, like, 10 years ago, my wife sort of made fun of me. I was doing a play and I was like, I need to go to work. And she would work. What you do is literally called play.
Jason Bateman
My wife does the same thing. Doesn't give it up. Yeah, yeah. But she.
Kieran Culkin
But I was like, she's kind of right. Maybe I'll go out there and just have fun with it and just stick around. This is not. Not extra serious. This is just us, you know, I don't know. I'd like to go out there and play.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
And do you think that that level of comfort and ease is because you started so young and it was not really ever framed initially to you as like an occupation, a job, a weigh in which.
Will Arnett
Or was it though. Or was it framed as a way of paying the rent?
Kieran Culkin
There's a lot of. There's a lot of stuff that I think, because I started doing it at six, like, that's helped me now is like, I learn lines incredibly fast. I know. I've listened to the show a lot. Jason, you're the same way. Yeah, that's like, Jen, I often like on a Real Pain. Do you guys know Jesse Eisenberg?
Jason Bateman
Not yet, no.
Kieran Culkin
Oh, no, you should meet him. He's just.
Jason Bateman
He's seems awesome.
Kieran Culkin
Anxiety personified. And nothing caused him more panic than me walking to set and going, what are we shooting today?
Sean Hayes
And he's like, what?
Kieran Culkin
No, I wrote. There's like a whole page long speech. What's wrong with you? He's like, I learned the lines fast. Don't worry about it.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Kieran Culkin
And I don't like to rehearse. And I just sort of like, look it over really quickly and go, oh, those are the words. I'll just, just, you know, I'll probably rely on instinct. Yeah, just go. I'm with you. Yeah.
Will Arnett
Yeah. JB. JB's really good. I. I think that that's could be. Obviously, it works for you, and it's very freeing. Right. So that you're not.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah.
Will Arnett
You're not stuck into it.
Jason Bateman
But there are certain parts. If I was more courageous, I would take on some parts that probably deserve a lot more research, study, practice. But I do really enjoy kind of not. Not acting. I think we've talked about this before. Like, I. I love watching actors that.
Will Arnett
Do we enjoy you not acting, too?
Jason Bateman
Believe me, I do like being. I like being the audience as opposed to being, you know, the character Jason.
Will Arnett
Do you take it personally when everybody keeps encouraging you to direct more?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, it's starting to, but wait, But.
Sean Hayes
Kieran, succession of those. Those big scenes where there's lots of people.
Will Arnett
Fucking speeches and stuff.
Sean Hayes
Dialogue and, like. I mean, you almost have to memorize everybody else's lines, too, right?
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, sort of. And I can do that fast. There was. You know, I've done things like that. Like, Sarah Snook and I had a really good rapport. So sometimes I would say, hey, can you just take my lines? Or, you know, vice versa. We even did a scene once for, like, by, like, the third take, I just jumped in and stole her line and gave her a little side eye. And then she looked at me like, all right, game on. And then later on, she took mine, you know.
Sean Hayes
That's great. I love that.
Jason Bateman
That's pret.
Kieran Culkin
But we ran it, like. We sort of did it like a play. There wasn't really a lot of rehearsing. We would go in there. We would always run the full scene, like, three, four, maybe five times. Cameras were always vaguely somewhere. There was no such thing as, like, coverage. Pickup shots.
Sean Hayes
Really nice emot.
Will Arnett
Wow.
Jason Bateman
Wow.
Kieran Culkin
I remember, like, in a camera system, like, he showed up, it was like a new guy, and we were kind of rehearsing. He put a mark down, and I just looked. I stopped the rehearsal and looked at him and said, first day.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That sounds like Arrested Development. You got multiple cameras, and they're just sort of tagging different stuff on each take. And by the time you run it three or four, four times, it's fully covered everything.
Kieran Culkin
That's why that show was so freaking alive. I'm on my third viewing of that show. That show was great.
Will Arnett
We were never. Yeah, but it's true. We were never really aware of the cameras in that way. And talk about a sense of play. Truly, you. We had that same feeling, which was. It was super fun, and you could kind of do anything.
Kieran Culkin
It's so alive that. That's why, like, because you. You guys were connecting and like, you guys were very alive. And that's what people respond to, I think.
Will Arnett
And we didn't learn. We also didn't learn our lines before. We would. We would kind of do it. We'd have. Have. We'd have a sort of a camera blocking, as it were. It was pretty loose and. And we would just kind of. Everybody would just kind of throw it out there and. Right, J.B. yeah. How many times do you remember we. That time we would come back to shoot that extra? The first Netflix season and the whole. The first day, Jason and I had a 12 page 2 man scene which was just. Do you remember that? And then we were walking towards stage. Mitch Hurwitz comes up to us and he goes, hey, guys. So I kind of rewrote the thing. And we're like, uh huh. So he gave us. And we're just going like this on the way to say, going, uh huh, uh huh. And then, okay, you're gonna come in here, you come in the front door. All right, I'm gonna go there, you're gonna go there. And rolling. And here we go.
Kieran Culkin
Perfect.
Will Arnett
And you just kind of fucking go.
Jason Bateman
That's so fun.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, your back's against the wall. You gotta go.
Jason Bateman
And Kieran, are you excited to find another project that is similar to that? Is it now a way in which you love to work that you'd love to replicate on all future jobs, or do you want something like the polar opposite, you know, where it' very, you know, specific and measured and what do you think?
Kieran Culkin
That is a really good question. Because I think, like, when I started working on Succession, I had to throw everything that I used to do out the window because I'd never done a TV show before. My thing was like, be off book months before, learn everyone else's lines, and be extremely prepared. And then, because it's the nature of a TV show where you don't know the next episode. And also our show, we were getting rewrites on the day, similar to what you just said. I had to abandon that and just go fly by the seat of my pants. But it lent itself to that character because he was the kind of guy who could sort of talk his way in and out of any situation, so he didn't really have to think before he spoke. So it was sort of like he was that guy. So I've been trying to mentally prepare for, like, as it feels like going backwards, like, you know, doing a job with coverage. And so when we started doing a real pain, I Sort of thought we were going to do that, which we did kind of on the first day or so. But the character in that movie is like the most spontaneous sort of surprising person. It's the kind of thing where just when you think you sort of have him down just to spite you, he's gonna give you a different reaction than what you're expecting.
Jason Bateman
Which is a great counterbalance to Jesse's character. Correct?
Kieran Culkin
Exactly. Yeah. And he's, you know. And he wrote it, he directed it. He, like, shot listed the whole thing before I got there. He, like, shot it on his phone playing my character. And he would tell me things like, okay, so in this scene, you sit over there. And I would go, how do you know? He's like, well, what do you mean? How do you know? Well, we haven't tried. He goes, well, why can't you sit there? Maybe I could, but we haven't tried it. What do you mean? Why doesn't it work? I'm sure it works. And we talk about being a fricking circle for a while.
Will Arnett
I love you. Get to set the first day. He's like, hey, I gotta cut of the movie right here. You were great. We're just doing pickups today.
Jason Bateman
So then how was he with, like, you would say, like, well, yeah, maybe I don't sit there. Maybe I stand over here. That way he would just, like, throw out all of his coverage and just be like, oh, fuck.
Kieran Culkin
He kind of abandoned it on, like, the second or third day.
Jason Bateman
Wow.
Will Arnett
Really? You forced him to?
Kieran Culkin
Well, because. Yeah. Well, we had to shoot this sequence that he had mapped out. But the whole idea of it was like, we're gonna. I want my picture taken in front of the statue. And then I start gathering the other people on this tour group to come with me. And he had planned it all out. And I was like, well, isn't sort of the point to Just for me to get them into the idea and we're all gonna take a photo together. And he's like, yes. Do you mind if we just try it once? And then he basically just told the cinematographer, like, never mind. Fuck the shot list. Pick up the camera.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jason Bateman
That's great, dude.
Will Arnett
That's great, though. How cool is that? Because then you guys ended up creating something together, much more collaborative. And I wonder if. And JB you can kind of maybe address it a little bit. Having directed so much now, having that for Jesse. I don't know, we should ask him. Having that sort of set, that shot list, everything the way he wants to see it. And he was so ready and so regimented. You come in, you kind of throw a wrench in that whole thing. And I bet you freed him up in a lot of ways.
Kieran Culkin
Maybe. I think it freaked him out a lot though. I'm sure it maybe scared the shit out of him, but yeah, yeah.
Jason Bateman
Cause the clock is ticking. You got this call sheet you gotta get done in 12 hours. And it's like, now I got a fucking pain in the ass actor that's throwing it all up and we're getting.
Kieran Culkin
Our scenes a lot faster. Actually, that's how I felt anyway. I'm sort of like, well, you know, let's just run the whole thing a couple of times instead of picking up these pieces. And then, you know, you get to shoot it how you want.
Jason Bateman
And we will be right back.
Sean Hayes
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Sean Hayes
And now back to the show.
Will Arnett
Kieran, now you're gonna take all of that, that way you're working all that kind of stuff. How's this gonna be different? You're now gonna go and you've worked. Obviously you've done theater before, but you're going back to Broadway, is that right? In the spring?
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, I am. Glengarry Glen Ross.
Will Arnett
Glen Gary.
Sean Hayes
Glen Ross.
Jason Bateman
God damn it. Can I be with it?
Kieran Culkin
Yes. But no. It's already cast.
Jason Bateman
You need an understudy.
Sean Hayes
Who's it with?
Kieran Culkin
That can be my understudy. Bob Odenkirk's in it. Bill Burr, Michael McKean.
Will Arnett
Look at that.
Kieran Culkin
What a. I'm terrified. I thought I was. Yeah.
Sean Hayes
When do you. When do you open?
Kieran Culkin
March. I don't know. They don't even have a theater. But they keep telling me that, that.
Sean Hayes
I think you'll Be fine.
Jason Bateman
Try the Tabasco. It's spicy, it's big.
Will Arnett
It's a great theater. Tabasco, home of. Goodbye, Oscar. And it was a great.
Sean Hayes
Good night. Good night. Good night, Oscar.
Will Arnett
Good night.
Kieran Culkin
You about to ask Shawna, you about to ask me about funny theater stories?
Sean Hayes
Yes, but. Yes.
Kieran Culkin
If you haven't any things that happened.
Sean Hayes
If you haven't, please share them. I love it. But look, Kieran, you can't let him.
Will Arnett
Tell a theater story.
Kieran Culkin
No, I wasn't actually prompting myself for a funny bit. I just know that she wants to ask. It's audition stories or.
Sean Hayes
Yes, jump in. I love. Those are my favorite stories, if you have one.
Kieran Culkin
I got a really quick one, which is. I did a play 10 years ago with Michael Cera.
Jason Bateman
Nice.
Kieran Culkin
This is her youth. And I had food poisoning.
Sean Hayes
It's already funny.
Kieran Culkin
The moment the show started and lights came up, I realized, oh, I'm fucked. So I spent like an hour just trying not to vomit. And by the end of the first act, I had this whole speech and I realized I can't open my mouth. I'm gonna vomit. And I have this whole speech where I have to get the money. There's an amount and what I'm spending it on. And I stood up next to the door to leave the apartment. I'm wobbling. And I had the speech. And there's like a 5, 6 second long pause that's not supposed to be there. And I hold my hand out and I just went, money. And he put the money in my hand. I ran out, and the stage manager, I guess, had put a bucket right next to the door.
Will Arnett
Oh, God.
Kieran Culkin
And I started violently, loudly vomiting in this bucket. They were trying to drag me away, but I couldn't. I was just holding onto this bucket for dear life, vomiting. I asked Michael afterwards. I said, could you guys hear me? He goes, are you fucking kidding me? It was the most surreal shared experience I've ever had with a group of people of listening to a grown man vomit in a bucket.
Jason Bateman
I'm just imagining Michael's just dry takes out to the house while everyone's here, just like he said.
Kieran Culkin
He grabbed a comic book and started trying to capture Read a comic book as if this wasn't happening until you made your re.
Jason Bateman
Entrance.
Kieran Culkin
No, the understudy came in in Act 2.
Sean Hayes
Oh, wow. Really?
Kieran Culkin
While I spent. Yeah, I was vomiting upstairs for the next few hours, and they somehow dragged me home for hours more of vomiting.
Jason Bateman
That's the best theater story we've heard yet, Sean.
Will Arnett
That's really Good.
Sean Hayes
I think that's really great. I love that.
Will Arnett
So, wait, so this was in London then?
Kieran Culkin
No, that one was in New York. But Wikipedia is correct. I did do that play in London, like, eight years before that. No, no, no, Will, you're the one who had time to actually research.
Will Arnett
I actually do know that you did. This is our youth, also in London. I have a very close relationship with. This is our youth because the original cast. Missy Jaeger was in the original cast, whom I lived with at the time. She was my girlfriend in the 90s.
Kieran Culkin
I knew that. Yeah.
Will Arnett
And I remember when they first did it, and she and Kenny first did it, and with Mark and Josh Hamilton, I saw about 42 times. Yeah, it's a great play. It's such a. It's such a brilliant play.
Kieran Culkin
I. I can't let it go. Like, I played it as the. The character Warren in London, and I. I felt like I never got it right. So I spent, like, years trying to do it again and then realized I actually was right for the other part. I just had to spend years convincing Kenny Lonergan that I was right for that part. And then I got to do it, like, in Chicago. Sydney.
Jason Bateman
No way.
Kieran Culkin
I can't seem to let it go. Yeah.
Will Arnett
Oh, that I did not know.
Jason Bateman
Would it. Would it make a good movie?
Kieran Culkin
I. I don't know. I've always tried to crack that one. I don't think. I. I don't know.
Jason Bateman
What about that? What about. What about directing a movie? Direct anything.
Kieran Culkin
I don't know. I don't have that thing.
Jason Bateman
You don't have a directing thing?
Kieran Culkin
I'm not that.
Will Arnett
I doubt that's true. I doubt. Yeah, you've been around. You've been around film. You've been making film since you were, as you said. Well, first of all, what was the first. Let's get into this. What was the first professional experience you had working in tv, film, et cetera, et cetera?
Kieran Culkin
Professional experience I had was a commercial when I was six. And I actually. You don't quite know what it was for, but it was like, for something to do with learning disabilities. And I remember that I was put. The concept was, I'm standing in front of a chalkboard with chalk in my hand, and I don't know how to solve the easy thing in front of me. And the kids in the class are supposed to be calling me dummy and stupid, all that. And I have a distinct memory of being there. And the director going, okay. He's like, action. And he starts going, dummy, idiot, stupid.
Sean Hayes
Oh, My God.
Kieran Culkin
And, like, even then. Even then I'm thinking, like, you know, I get it.
Sean Hayes
I'm six.
Kieran Culkin
Like, stand here and look sad. I'm not fucking Method. I'm six. What's wrong with you?
Sean Hayes
Right, right, right.
Jason Bateman
Oh, my God.
Kieran Culkin
I think he was just.
Sean Hayes
But why do I have. I have this image of you. I can't remember what I was watching, where you were. Either you hosted or your brother hosted snl, and you were.
Will Arnett
Oh, good. I thought you were gonna say, I have this image of you on my hard drive. Okay, keep going.
Sean Hayes
Well, that's. Yeah, that too. But wait, why were you on. What was I watching? Where they did a zoom in on you and you were, like, on stage on SNL or something.
Kieran Culkin
I hosted SNL a couple years ago, and it was. It was 30 years.
Sean Hayes
Oh, that's what it was.
Kieran Culkin
It was 30 years almost to the day. It was like, a couple days shy of being 30 years from when my brother hosted. And I got to be in, like, three sketches, so they had, like, I got to be there for the good nights and stuff like that.
Sean Hayes
That's really cool. That was so cool.
Will Arnett
Was that surreal?
Kieran Culkin
That really was. And I. It was one of those things I thought would never, ever happen, but was. There's very few, like, things I like. I said I'm not very ambitious. I don't, like, have these big aspiring dreams. But, like, hosting SNL was like, that one. That one. And, like, voicing the Simpsons, which I still haven't done yet. Those are, like, the things I've always wanted to do.
Jason Bateman
Here they come.
Will Arnett
I remember. I remember one time. I remember when JB got. Was asked to host the first time. This true story. And you probably don't remember this, and you were first. You got asked to do it. This was in. You did it in, like, January of 2005, I think.
Jason Bateman
It wasn't after, like, the first year or second year of Second year.
Will Arnett
Yeah. Yeah. It was January 2005. And I remember you going, going, dude, dude, they just asked me, I'm gonna host snl. I go, that's great. And you go, I mean, it's like a dream come true. And I was like, yeah, no, obviously, it's a fucking. What do you think you're. This. This was a dream come true for me. Oh, is it?
Jason Bateman
No, but a lot of people. But there's a lot of people. And I won't. I won't mention their names here because maybe they. They're not excited about it, but that they. They will never host snl. Because it's so frightening to them.
Kieran Culkin
I've heard that. Yeah.
Jason Bateman
It's like the thing they would least like to do. And they've turned it down a million times. There's tons of them.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I guess that's probably where I was coming from. Okay, that's one of my favorite.
Kieran Culkin
My favorite good nights stories, you know, like, because when you do the good nights at the end, all that's on the cue card is like the musical guest and anybody else that showed up and like, While you're like 5 seconds TV, Lauren goes, okay, enjoy. And I go, what do I say? He goes, anything you want, and walks away. And all I'm doing is looking at the cue cards. And then, you know. But I said the normal goodnights. But my favorite I've ever seen was Liam Neeson hosted like in early 2000s. And the camera cuts to him and he just goes, modest Mouse. And then it's just quiet. And then they just start playing the music. It's so good.
Jason Bateman
It's just reading the cards, not doing anything.
Kieran Culkin
You literally just read the cue card. Modest Mouse.
Sean Hayes
I started hugging. Karen, you can't be you and not be super smart. Like, you seem hyper intelligent because while you talk fast like I usually do, not today on morphine. But you talk, but you, you. It seems like you're firing an all cylinders.
Will Arnett
Did they say you had to smoke the morphine? I don't get it. So they gave you the option.
Sean Hayes
You were like, no, I want to have a. What is it called? A drip?
Will Arnett
Track marks.
Sean Hayes
Track marks. But you seem really like, you talk fast, which means you think fast, which means you can probably. Like, when Will was talking to you or Jason was talking about directing, it seems like people who fire in all cylinders all the time can do stuff like that. So if you don't want to do that, what do you do to, like.
Jason Bateman
Occupy all that extra bandwidth?
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Kieran Culkin
God, I don't. I don't know, drive my wife crazy. I don't even have, like, hobbies, crosswords. I don't like. Not even. I do like, you know, wordle, quirtle, bullshit. Like, I know you guys do. Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Kieran Culkin
Isn't it weird that I know stuff about you because I listen to your show too much?
Jason Bateman
Will, pull him in. There's. There's that empty seat. Have you guys ever filled my seat?
Will Arnett
Yeah, no, we have better way to say that.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Arnett
We still play every morning.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, I'm still wortle, qutle and octurtle. You do the turtle.
Kieran Culkin
I haven't done in A wle while. Yeah, I haven't done my favorite in a wle. What a. Yeah, you just said I'm smart and I speak fast.
Will Arnett
Qutle was really. I will say today was really tough. And it was a bust. We had three busts on. On quirtle today, which was a big. It was sending shock waves through our. Our turtle Quirtle Wordle what we call nurdle now.
Jason Bateman
Kieran.
Kieran Culkin
I find it hard to believe exist. It's a ma.
Jason Bateman
You're really saying you do not have a hobby? I don't. I don't buy it. What? Tell me just.
Will Arnett
You live in New York full time. Are you in New York, guy?
Kieran Culkin
I live in New York full time, but also like I amazed that people do things in a day. Like, I just don't. I don't get it. So you wake up, time to. Exactly.
Jason Bateman
You get the kid off to school.
Will Arnett
How many kids you have? That's just it.
Kieran Culkin
That's it. That's the whole. I just woke up. Like, I'm already getting ready for bed. How did that happen? What did I. What did I.
Jason Bateman
How many kids you have?
Kieran Culkin
I got two. A three year old and a five year old. So that's my hobby, I guess is that's any. Anytime. I'm not like, this is really lovely and I really want to be here, but I feel like any time I'm doing something, I'm just trying to get home to be with the kids.
Jason Bateman
Are you like me? Do you put on the PJs as soon as you're home if you know you're not leaving again the rest of the day, even if it's 1:30 in the afternoon?
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, like my walking around like it's a pair of shorts and a big T shirt. But. Yeah, it's the same idea. Yeah.
Jason Bateman
And then. So then is it. Is it television? Is it a book? Like, what are you. You're not just sitting on a couch staring at the wall?
Kieran Culkin
God, I haven't read a book since I had a kid, so. That would be five years ago. I forgot you're not a reader because words just keep coming at you. Right, Jason?
Jason Bateman
Yeah. Tv.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah. It's just too much.
Jason Bateman
We're watching tv.
Will Arnett
The words just keep coming.
Kieran Culkin
They really do. They just. It's relentless. Like, you know, almost no time for TV or movies unless, like, I can put it like in a schedule. I don't know.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, it.
Will Arnett
So. So when you're done with us today, what you. You. You log off and then what. What happens?
Kieran Culkin
I have Like a little zoom meeting right after you. And then I have to go do some. I'm still doing press for the movie. So then, like about an hour after that, zoom, I go do a prep. I actually don't know what the thing is I'm going to. I stopped looking at the itinerary. They tell me to, like, get in the car at 11:30. I get in at, like 12:15 and hope for the best. Yeah, I literally. This happened a couple weeks ago. I got in the back of a car about 45 minutes late, and the guy said, delta Airlines. And I went. I don't know. And he said. He goes, jfk. And I said, beats me, man. I really don't fucking know.
Jason Bateman
You probably know.
Kieran Culkin
Literally, I wasn't even sure if I was going to the airport except for that I had a bag that was already packed. I got to the airport, I put my passport in the machine. And as I put it in, I realized I don't know where I'm going today.
Will Arnett
Wow.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah. And it was a good thing, too. Cause it was a long flight. I was going to Warsaw. Glad I brought my passport.
Sean Hayes
Why were you going to Warsaw?
Will Arnett
Warsaw.
Kieran Culkin
The movie was shot. Shot.
Sean Hayes
Oh, oh, oh, oh. This movie. Okay, sorry.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, this movie. It was shot there. Had like a.
Jason Bateman
How did you like Warsaw?
Will Arnett
Yeah, I was about to say I hardly saw it.
Kieran Culkin
I was. We were shooting like six day weeks.
Will Arnett
More like. No saw.
Kieran Culkin
All right. Yeah, that was good.
Jason Bateman
Good for you, Will. It's Poland, I hear, is a very, very beautiful country.
Will Arnett
Oh, you've been hearing that?
Jason Bateman
I have been hearing that. I have not yet visited yet. Yeah, we're like on the grape. On the grapevine or my text thread heads.
Kieran Culkin
Really nice parks. And my w. My wife's from London and she always brags about how the parks in London are the best in the world, but the best parks she's ever seen were in Warsaw.
Will Arnett
Really?
Kieran Culkin
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
So she went with you. The kids went with you at the beginning.
Kieran Culkin
They were there for the first, like, 11 to 12 days. And then once they left, I was. Yeah.
Jason Bateman
And how long. How long were you alone without them?
Kieran Culkin
25 days. That was. Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Oh, no.
Kieran Culkin
That was murderous. Yes.
Jason Bateman
25 shooting days. That's 5.
Kieran Culkin
25. No, 25 full days.
Jason Bateman
25 full days.
Kieran Culkin
And actually, yeah, I tried to actually back out of the movie once I saw that. That was the schedule. Jesse didn't know about that. Wow. Because I had recently. I don't know if you guys have these rules, like I just did when I was doing succession. I Had to do eight days away. And I was like, that was tough, but manageable. And then I had to do 11 and went, I can't do that. Eight is my. That's my new rule.
Jason Bateman
Wait, you live in New York. The show is shot in New York. Why would Jason.
Will Arnett
That's the opposite of your rule. Right. Which is it's minimum six months away or you're out.
Jason Bateman
Well, they're just so noisy, these kids. What about. Wait, where did you have to go for succession that took you out for 8 and 11 days at.
Kieran Culkin
Away from New York, a lot of places. You know, like, there's usually, like, once per season, watch the show that we ended up somewhere else. You know, Italy, Norway.
Will Arnett
Sean's never seen development, and we've been doing this podcast and we've been friends for years.
Kieran Culkin
I know. Still.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Kieran Culkin
I always say I've seen it three times. I haven't seen Ozark. It's okay.
Sean Hayes
I always say I've seen it as much as they've watched. Well, and Grace.
Will Arnett
I've seen a lot of Will and Grace, and I was on Will and Grace.
Kieran Culkin
He was on Will and Grace.
Will Arnett
Yeah. So why don't you. When you're sitting there passing your stone and nothing else that you can't do, all watch a couple episodes. So. So you guys shot in incredible locations for succession that I do know.
Kieran Culkin
You guys shot, like, in Croatia, Tuscany. Yeah, yeah. Norway. We were all over the man.
Will Arnett
I know. How good is that?
Kieran Culkin
But it wasn't that. No, it wasn't that. Like, nice. I remember, like, at the end of season two, my wife was like, like, heavily pregnant. It was August, she's back in New York, and she was basically complaining about hot. It was. And she was alone and all this stuff, and she's like, and you're on a yacht in Croatia. I'm like, I'm not on a yacht. I'm on a set. It's not like I'm going swimming between takes and all that. It's like, that's the thing when we travel all these places. Unless you can specifically get some time off after, you're not really seeing the stuff.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I don't know. Right? Wait, wait, Kieran. So. So you've always been in New Yorker. I want to get back to this because I saw video something of you. You recently. Not even. Not even in anticipation of doing this. I just saw it out in the world of you revisiting your childhood apartment.
Kieran Culkin
Oh, wow.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Oh, yeah, yeah. That was on CBS Sunday Morning, which is a great show. Right? That was a great.
Will Arnett
And it, it was really cool. And I loved you going in and then seeing your former neighbor and, and.
Kieran Culkin
That was not planned at all. We were just like, they were setting up a camera outside and he was like, oh, hi, Kieran. I look.
Jason Bateman
That was a palace.
Kieran Culkin
Oh, thanks.
Will Arnett
Yeah. So talk a little bit about, like, growing up in New York and auditioning for stuff and what that was like. And now, as I mentioned in the lead in that Jason, we often talk about people, about being able to have that longevity and be able to kind of take what you be a child actor and have that translate into becoming an adult actor as well. It's really rare.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. Yeah. Petrified.
Kieran Culkin
I feel like other than what I mentioned earlier about, like learning lines fast and knowing like that stuff, I feel like everything I did as a kid, like, I don't think I apply any of the acting stuff I used to do as a kid to what I do now. So I think, I think it's the. Yeah, because sometimes I see that in former kid actors, I don't know if you know what I'm talking about, where there's sort of like bad habits you can sort of pick up along the way that you just have to be mindful to.
Jason Bateman
Right. You mentioned. And Igbe, the director was like, I'm seeing the kid tricks. Just fucking knock it off and be better, basically.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah. Stop showing me what you're doing. You know, stop, you know. Yeah. Trying to show me what the character's doing or stop showing me what's happening in the scene. Like, you know that.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. Force us to lean in and read your mind. Right.
Will Arnett
So you, you kind of, you shifted what you did. Like Jason. I'm sure a lot of stuff that you used to do, like on Growing Pains, is now different.
Jason Bateman
No.
Will Arnett
Right.
Jason Bateman
No, that's Kirk Cameron. Will. Sorry. Can I talk to you for a second? Yes. This whole time, the whole time, I've never been. Yeah. But now, Karen, did you have the same level of, of panic and horror?
Kieran Culkin
Yes.
Jason Bateman
When you were. Start thinking about, my God, am I going to be able to transition my, my, my, my, my ability to make a dollar into adulthood? Or should I go to college? Should I get something where I have a diploma and I have a reasonable expectation of sort of a base salary and some consistency and predictability in my life?
Kieran Culkin
God, I don't really think all that often. So all I know is I suddenly found myself at like 20. And I remember my manager, who I'm still with. I've been with her for 30 years she like used the word career and I kind of panicked because I'd been doing since six, but it's like a six year old shouldn't really pick their occupation for the rest of their life. That's not really, they're not really qualified to do that, you know. So I think I kind of panicked and was like, okay, well, I don't know if this is what I want to do. So I think I spent many years trying to figure out what I want.
Jason Bateman
To do and doing this in the meantime.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
At that point you're 20, so you could still kind of start college. You'd be a 20 year old freshman, which is not cute, but you still could have done it.
Kieran Culkin
I'm a high school dropout as well. I don't really, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Will Arnett
Well, but, but, but like Jason, you asked, remember we asked this recently to Carrie Russell and she was like, no, I had no thought about making the leap from being a, you know, a child actor to a, like, she didn't worry about it at all. You did, you, you were cognizant of it.
Jason Bateman
I did, but I still didn't do anything to mitigate the risk. In other words, I wasn't taking like night classes in real estate, you know, like, it was just, I mean, it's really, really stupid what I did and what you did, Karen, what Carrie did. Like, we're still at this. I'm 55, I'm still running sort of wild. Great show, by the way. You know, like, if this doesn't work out in the next, what, six months, things could go completely dry at any point in any of our careers. And we don't have a diploma or a degree in something that says, no, no, no, I'm knocking on the door, I should give me a job.
Sean Hayes
But isn't that the thing that drives, drives you? Is that fear? Like.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, but you know, this anxiety that's behind all the time.
Sean Hayes
I know.
Will Arnett
I think a really good antidote to that also for me has been rich parents. I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
Kieran Culkin
They're not really nice.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I'm being, I'm being flipping. It's true. It's not true. It's not true.
Kieran Culkin
I remember my Grandma, like about 20 years ago, she was in North Dakota. She asked me, like, she goes, you still acting? I said, yeah. And she goes, when was your last job? And I said, oh God, got it like a little over a year ago. And she goes, you should get into meat. People always need meat.
Sean Hayes
Really? Really?
Jason Bateman
Your grandma said, not Terrible, not terrible advice.
Sean Hayes
People will always eat it.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
We'll be right back.
Sean Hayes
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Sean Hayes
Forgive me, is it just you and Macaulay that were actors or were there other people in your family?
Kieran Culkin
My brother Rory. Actually, at some point, we were all sort of like, given the opportunity to act. And some of them just didn't take to it. Some did.
Sean Hayes
And then out of all seven of us, and then parents, seven kids. Seven kids.
Kieran Culkin
Seven kids.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
In that smart little apartment.
Will Arnett
Sorry, where do you fall in that?
Kieran Culkin
Right in the middle, Will. Yeah, okay. But I don't really have that middle child thing.
Sean Hayes
Huh?
Kieran Culkin
Because I was, like, the favorite.
Jason Bateman
Yep, There you go.
Will Arnett
I don't. I don't really believe in Birth order as much as other people do.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, you had. You're one of four, right, Willie?
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Yep.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I was the baby, like my whole. I was the baby for almost 10 years and then my brother was born. So, you know, I have two older sisters and I don't know, I just don't buy into it.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, I don't.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, you make of it. You make of it what you will. Like, anyway.
Will Arnett
Exactly.
Sean Hayes
Whatever the order is.
Jason Bateman
Real, real quick. Their names.
Will Arnett
Jack, Wat.
Jason Bateman
And we'll let you come back on that. Okay.
Will Arnett
I do love them, I think.
Kieran Culkin
Look it up.
Jason Bateman
Sean, you have a question for our guest?
Sean Hayes
No, I was just saying. So, but then as far as. As far as the lineage of. The lineage of the cult just threw up right now. And the kidney stone comes out my throat instead of my pe. No, but parents and grandparents and like. Or did this acting bug start with you, the kids of the culture?
Kieran Culkin
It's like my. I think my father and his siblings did it as kids. That's sort of my understanding. Cause actually, I only know that. Cause a few years ago, we went through an old storage unit and I found this, like, pamphlet of, I guess what his parents were trying to like, I don't know what exactly what it was, but it was like, hey, we have a son that's an actor and we have this other son that's a magician.
Sean Hayes
Oh, wow.
Kieran Culkin
It was like, sort of like. Like we have these performing arts kids.
Will Arnett
Wow.
Sean Hayes
Isn't it amazing the stuff you find out about your parents way later? Like, I grew up without knowing anything about my mom or obviously my dad, but my mom.
Jason Bateman
No idea. Your dad was such a great driver. I know.
Kieran Culkin
Do you know the make of the car?
Will Arnett
At least you didn't know that your dad didn't own a map. I guess. Still surprising he had a bad memory. Or he had a bad memory.
Sean Hayes
Wait, do you guys remember that car? The mj mg? The mg? My dad owned that.
Will Arnett
No kidding.
Jason Bateman
He built a car built for one.
Will Arnett
Built for barely two people. And he had five kids. That's the first sign, man. Yes, I know. You should have punctured the tires.
Sean Hayes
I know. Isn't that the truth? Isn't that the truth? Like, that's such a red flag.
Kieran Culkin
Oh, God.
Will Arnett
You know what the other. You know what the other red flag was? When he said, I'm out of here.
Kieran Culkin
Oh, man.
Sean Hayes
So funny.
Kieran Culkin
So weird for me because it feels like. Like you're just meeting me, but I feel like I'm hanging out with my old friends that are just with each Other you are. My wife used to tell me for months she was listening to the show before I listened to it. She. This happened on more than one occasion. She'd be like, oh, my friend said, blah, blah, blah. The other day we were having this chat and I said, which friend was it? And she'd think, oh, fuck, that was smartless. It happens all the time.
Will Arnett
Who is that?
Kieran Culkin
Is that Sean? No, I know. Like a couple months ago we were at this because her favorite episode is the one you guys did with Matthew Reese.
Jason Bateman
Oh, yeah.
Sean Hayes
She loved it.
Kieran Culkin
She listened to it more than once. And she. So we're at this party and she goes, oh, Matthew's here. Let's go say hi. And she started dragging me up and I was like, matthew who? And then she. Right before we got to him, she stopped me and started pushing me away. She goes, never mind. We haven't met him. We're not friends. Oh my God.
Jason Bateman
I love her already. What is her name?
Kieran Culkin
Sweet Jazz.
Jason Bateman
Jazz.
Will Arnett
Hey, Jazz.
Kieran Culkin
J A Z. Z. And it's not short for anything, actually, right when I met her, that was one of the first things I said. It's not. It's dumb. When I first met her, I shook her hand and I said. I said, what's your name? She went, jazz. I said, j A Z. Z. Like the music. She went, yes. I was, well, that's fucking stupid. It just came out of me. And right away I was like, I blew it. But instead she laughed. So it worked out all right.
Jason Bateman
Where was when you guys met? Tell us the story. Is it a meet cute at a bar?
Kieran Culkin
But that was it. I mean that. What I love about the story is it's fast. That was pretty much it. The only other thing was when I walked into a bar, I was with a friend.
Jason Bateman
Is that your ride?
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, that's. This is New York City.
Sean Hayes
You're like, I don't know where the car's taking me, but it's my dealer, that's my dealer.
Kieran Culkin
I walked in a bar, I saw her and I yelled, holy shit.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Kieran Culkin
And I.
Will Arnett
What city? What city were you? New York City. New York.
Kieran Culkin
And I was with this dude. And I said like, hey, we need to go stand near this girl. Which I realize now sounds kind of creepy. And so we stood near her.
Jason Bateman
That's what we had to do before these dating apps. You just had to like kind of circle. Yeah.
Kieran Culkin
You show up fucking easy now, right? This was 13 years ago. She was sitting at a table with some dude and the moment. The moment he got up to leave to go to the bathroom. I just jumped in there and stole his seat.
Will Arnett
No way.
Kieran Culkin
And I literally, like, all I did is I sat down and said, sorry, I just stole your friend's seat. And she went, that's okay. I said, was that your boyfriend? She said, no. I said, do you have a boyfriend? She would know. I said, then I'm Kieran.
Will Arnett
Wow.
Sean Hayes
Oh, wow.
Kieran Culkin
Never been that forward in my life.
Jason Bateman
And then she said, I'm Jazz. And you said, that's stupid.
Kieran Culkin
I said, that's stupid.
Jason Bateman
And then, what are you drinking?
Sean Hayes
You guys have been making music ever since.
Will Arnett
Where. What. What part. What part of town were you in? Do you remember?
Kieran Culkin
It was. What the hell was the name of the place? It was on 7 and 7th and 8th. It was called Cabin down Below.
Jason Bateman
Oh, nice.
Kieran Culkin
Do you know that one?
Will Arnett
I don't know if I know. Cabin down below.
Jason Bateman
7Th and A. That. So that is Lower east side.
Kieran Culkin
I want to say Lower east side. It was one of those places where I kept getting, like, turned away because they kept. Every time I tried to go there, they were like, it's a private party. Because I didn't. I wasn't dressed cool or I wasn't famous, but they knew my wife. Like, there was one time I went there and I was with a couple of, like, I'm not meaning to name drop. I was there with a couple, like, famous Y people. And I walked up first, and they were like, sorry, private party. And I looked back at one of my friends. It was. I'll just tell you who it was. It was Scarlett Johansson. She's like, I got this. And she walked up, she goes, hi there. With me. And he looked at her and said, it's a private party. And then he looked up and went, jessica, Jazz. And she was like, yeah. I was like, oh, are they with you? And she would.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, come on in.
Kieran Culkin
Ah, people.
Will Arnett
She's like, that's one of those New York jazzy Jazz.
Jason Bateman
She's just one of those people, man.
Kieran Culkin
She makes friends everywhere.
Jason Bateman
Now. Now, since you guys are. Since acting is generational, what about the three year old and the five year old? What are you thinking?
Kieran Culkin
I'm not against that.
Jason Bateman
You're gonna support it.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah. I mean, I had a really nice experience with it growing up. I. You did? Yeah, it was. It was nice.
Jason Bateman
However it is that thing getting back to that other point, it's like, are you going to. At some point, you. I would imagine you would say, now, would you want to kind of. Kind of help your odds a little bit by going to college at the same time, maybe.
Kieran Culkin
I would probably encourage an education. I never got one, but I don't know. Yeah, I would probably encourage that. But I don't really know. And I've also heard of people. This is something I kind of wish I. It hasn't come to bite me in the ass really, but I remember doing like a lot of press as a kid, and I feel like I would maybe try to protect them from doing that a bit because sometimes I'll get quoted on something stupid. I said, I'm like, I was 13. That's not what I actually think. Like I don't. You know?
Sean Hayes
What about Sean?
Will Arnett
Remember that? Sean? Remember that time you paid that guy to bite you in the ass? Sorry. It just reminded me of that story.
Jason Bateman
Surprisingly cheap too, wasn't it? It?
Sean Hayes
Yeah. I mean, he was. He. He lowered his rates for me. That's really funny.
Jason Bateman
There's also the part about, like. There's also the part about like training yourself to. To. To believably be someone else at a time when you're trying to figure out who you are. Like starting to act when you're a little kid. Did that ever screw you up at all?
Kieran Culkin
No. I think other things probably screw me up. I don't know if that was it.
Sean Hayes
What?
Kieran Culkin
You guys up?
Jason Bateman
You're feeling pretty balanced now. Have you self analysis or. Or. Or professional analysis?
Will Arnett
Therapy? Therapy?
Kieran Culkin
No therapy. I prefer to go undiagnosed.
Sean Hayes
I love therapy. Just.
Kieran Culkin
I. I should. I know if you guys sound like long walks.
Jason Bateman
Work too.
Will Arnett
Yeah, Sean, you go.
Sean Hayes
Work in progress. I go to therapy every week.
Will Arnett
Oh, yeah, you do.
Sean Hayes
It's like instead of dumping it all on Scotty, I just pay somebody to listen.
Will Arnett
Again.
Jason Bateman
Again. Confuse and beat me to it.
Will Arnett
I know.
Kieran Culkin
Oh, my God.
Jason Bateman
All right, Kieran, what about. Are we a sports fan? Television show fan? You've said no.
Will Arnett
You won't watch tv?
Kieran Culkin
No hobbies. I don't do anything. Zero.
Sean Hayes
Wait.
Jason Bateman
It's so like.
Sean Hayes
It's. Yeah. I don't understand it.
Kieran Culkin
I don't know. I just don't have time. I don't even get to the gym.
Will Arnett
So you go. Do you meet people for coffee? Do you, like.
Kieran Culkin
No, I don't really even have friends anymore. Click.
Sean Hayes
And you just hang up?
Kieran Culkin
Kind of.
Sean Hayes
What will you do after this, Karen? After you're done with this little.
Jason Bateman
He's got a zoom. And then he's got to go do more press.
Kieran Culkin
Not like a press thing. And I got the thing. You know, I like doing this. Hey, this is. This is Kind of a new one. I think I need therapy because I like doing. I like flower arrangements now.
Jason Bateman
Do you really?
Will Arnett
Okay. There you go.
Kieran Culkin
I do. I like doing great. That gives me some calm.
Jason Bateman
What about a garden on the roof of your apartment?
Kieran Culkin
That's such a nightmare. It's New York. That's not going to be nice.
Jason Bateman
No matter what, there's public gardens. You can. You can rent a public square garden in a public square.
Kieran Culkin
Bit of a bummer, too, I find.
Sean Hayes
I'll do. I'll do crafts with you, too. Until we.
Jason Bateman
Careful, Karen.
Sean Hayes
All the time.
Will Arnett
Until.
Kieran Culkin
Until what?
Sean Hayes
Yeah, I don't know, but let's. We could get macaroni and glue and make stuff on a paper plate.
Kieran Culkin
I can do that with my children. But. Yeah, please come on over.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, you can join us. We got all that stuff.
Will Arnett
Please turn into a morphine addict. He's gonna steal your silverware. It's not.
Kieran Culkin
I'll never leave him alone with the kids. But, yeah, he can come over. Supervised.
Jason Bateman
Now, when do you start rehearsals on the play?
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Kieran Culkin
Oh, gosh. February or something like that. That terrible.
Sean Hayes
Can we.
Will Arnett
Can we. Can we get a commitment? Can we. Can the three of us come to the opening night of your play?
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, you're invited.
Jason Bateman
The public is invited. Stupid ass.
Kieran Culkin
You got your own publicist. You need me to, like, give up one of my five tickets to three?
Will Arnett
Yes.
Kieran Culkin
I mean, I could. Yeah, fine.
Sean Hayes
It.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, no, leave them alone.
Kieran Culkin
I'm sure you have connections yourself, but fine, you three are my guests.
Will Arnett
You want to come?
Kieran Culkin
No plus ones, though.
Jason Bateman
Exactly. Now, is jazz in the business as well?
Kieran Culkin
No, not at all.
Will Arnett
No.
Jason Bateman
But she understands enough about what you do to.
Kieran Culkin
It's taken a while. She used to think that, like, she goes, I don't understand why, like, actors get awards and things. She's. She literally thought that, like, directors puppeteered the actor, told them where to sit and the cadence on how to speak. So that's literally what her point of view was on it. She had never been on a set or anything around it.
Will Arnett
Right.
Kieran Culkin
She's come to understand.
Will Arnett
Where'd she grow up? Chechnya. Like, what's going on?
Kieran Culkin
London. But, yeah.
Will Arnett
Oh, okay.
Kieran Culkin
Closer than you.
Jason Bateman
I do.
Will Arnett
Like, you guys spend a lot of time over there as a result.
Kieran Culkin
We do. Yeah. I love it out there. We always.
Sean Hayes
I do, too.
Will Arnett
I noticed the throw. The throw pillow.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, that is. And, yeah, that's what we do here.
Jason Bateman
Look at Sean. Look at. Sean's right eye is at.
Kieran Culkin
Oh, my God. Is it open?
Jason Bateman
No, no, the Whole show, it's just been half open. The left one's fully open, the right one is really tired.
Sean Hayes
Like that.
Will Arnett
This morning, Sean spent 45. He's spent 45 minutes bent at the waist outside his front door this morning in that. It's so true.
Sean Hayes
It's so true. I was at the ER at Cedars and there's like, it was a seven hour wait.
Jason Bateman
What.
Kieran Culkin
What is wrong with you? Why aren't. Why didn't you cancel?
Sean Hayes
Because I had. There's no other option.
Jason Bateman
Was Scotty with you?
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
So you didn't. You didn't take the. The driverless cab this time?
Sean Hayes
I told him. I'm like, fuck off. I'll just take the thing.
Jason Bateman
What's it called again?
Will Arnett
That's sweet, Waymo.
Jason Bateman
And you did have a good experience, right? Right.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, I love the Wayo.
Jason Bateman
Do they have that yet in New York?
Kieran Culkin
I. I would. I've never heard.
Will Arnett
It's the driverless. It's the. It's the driverless.
Kieran Culkin
Oh, that scares the out of me. No, I haven't seen any here. No.
Jason Bateman
How do you get around New York? Are you a bike rider?
Kieran Culkin
Oh, God, no. I don't do that either. See, that would fall under hobby, probably, or at least exercise. And I don't do that. Yeah.
Sean Hayes
No.
Jason Bateman
Are you a subway guy?
Kieran Culkin
Subway, yeah. Yeah. That's the best way to get my kids to school. And.
Will Arnett
And if it's ready, you take a cab.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, no, not today. It's rainy today.
Will Arnett
How do you.
Jason Bateman
What do I. You know what I've never figured out about the subways. Once you come up out of the stairs after you've reached your destination, I can't figure out whether I'm looking north, south, east, or west because I can't find the stuff.
Kieran Culkin
Because you're used to getting in the backseat and your driver just taking you places.
Jason Bateman
Sir, can you change your radio station?
Will Arnett
A whole host. I actually requested nobody talk to me on this ride. You know how. You know, a lot of the times JB is. Because on the avenues, certainly on the avenues, you know which direction they go, whether they go uptown or downtown. So you can get.
Kieran Culkin
You can look at the numbers. I think if you can count, you can sort of figure out.
Jason Bateman
But you. That that necessitates walking a block to see if the numbers are going up or down. That's. That.
Kieran Culkin
Oh, that's yes.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Kieran Culkin
You might walk one block out of.
Jason Bateman
The way, but, like, I shouldn't have to walk a block to figure out which way I'm going.
Kieran Culkin
You Know, well, you also have, like, smarty phones.
Will Arnett
Now, do you want to go to a council meeting in New York? Maybe you can be heard. You know what I mean?
Kieran Culkin
What would you suggest? There's somebody at the exit of every station telling you where to go.
Jason Bateman
In England, they take the time to paint on the road there. Look left. You know, like maybe. Maybe New York can say you are facing north on the road.
Will Arnett
Yeah, but it doesn't say which direction you're facing.
Jason Bateman
No, but I'm saying north or south.
Will Arnett
It's case dismissed.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah, that's so you don't get hit by a car.
Jason Bateman
I'm saying. No, I understand, but I'm saying there are efforts that the infrastructure folks can go to, you know, to help out the people on the road.
Kieran Culkin
This is real stuff.
Will Arnett
Sean. Sean, remember last year, we were having dinner at Richard and Jenny's, and you came outside and I was bent over at the ways. This is true. And I said. And I looked at him and go, yeah. Do you remember that?
Sean Hayes
Oh, God. That was one of the hardest things to do. What is your laugh?
Will Arnett
Being hunched over at the waist.
Sean Hayes
You know Richard. Richard Ehrlich.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. The world's best realtor. If you're looking for a house in Los Angeles area, contact Richard Ehrlich.
Will Arnett
That's a true story.
Sean Hayes
That is a true story. And we walk out to our cars, the night's over, and we're walking out to the part, to his driveway, and Will goes, acting like he's completely bombed out of his mind. He goes, hey, hey, man. Can I ask you something? I go, yeah. He goes, do you know where I can. Do you know where I can get some heroin? I'm just asking for a friend. I'm asking. Heroin. I'm asking for a friend. I don't want it. I don't want anything to do with it.
Will Arnett
By the way, let's not make light of people who are struggling with it.
Sean Hayes
No, of course not.
Will Arnett
We're not. We're not. We're just having fun because Sean happens to be hooked on morphine right now.
Sean Hayes
Hooked on.
Will Arnett
I don't mean addicted to.
Jason Bateman
Karen.
Sean Hayes
Karen, this is it.
Will Arnett
We could just talk to you all day knowing that you have nothing else.
Jason Bateman
To do all over again. He's got to do it all over again, right?
Will Arnett
Is there anything you want to ask Sean? Is there anything because you've listened to a few episodes. Is there anything you need to know from Sean?
Jason Bateman
Go ahead, ask him why he hates his colon so much.
Kieran Culkin
Yeah. Why are you always in the hospital? What is Wrong.
Sean Hayes
No, cuz my. Yeah, well I'm not just my heart thing was the big. Is the big thing. But it's all being taken care of.
Will Arnett
Well, you know why, Kieran? If you went, if you went to Sean and Scotty's house every day, every meal, it's like a 12 year old's birthday party.
Sean Hayes
This is true. Okay, I know it's true. It's true.
Jason Bateman
Napkins on.
Kieran Culkin
Laughs I kind of eat the same. I'm kind of the same when it comes to the food thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jason Bateman
You like the food?
Kieran Culkin
I do. And it's the shitty stuff. Like my wife the other day reached in and grabbed some Cheetos that I was eating, was about to. And then she let go and said what am I doing? Wait, what are you doing? Where did these come from? And I said they were in the house. She goes, how. Stop putting this in our house.
Jason Bateman
Right.
Will Arnett
How old, how old a man Are you?
Kieran Culkin
42.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Kieran Culkin
And I can't be eating like that.
Jason Bateman
So you go to the. Do you go to the. Do you guys take turns going to the market and doing the shopping?
Kieran Culkin
Yeah. And then you know I do that thing where I shop hungry and then I'm buying the. I find that they have like that chicken and a biscuit. You know those like boxes. Ch.
Sean Hayes
I love those.
Kieran Culkin
I'll buy like I buy them by the case.
Jason Bateman
I love just pushing the cart row by row by row. No list at all. I'm just going to go down each row, however long it takes and look at everything and. And see what I want.
Kieran Culkin
But you don't put anything in the cart. Right?
Jason Bateman
I feel it.
Will Arnett
Jb I love hearing you describe sort of normal, you know, everyday necessities for people as a novel idea. You know what I mean?
Kieran Culkin
It's like a hashtag relatable.
Will Arnett
You don't fun can do anything office and to all the places.
Kieran Culkin
I like to pretend I have a job. Work, work, work.
Will Arnett
Amazing. Amazing. Kieran, what a delight you are.
Sean Hayes
You are absolute delight.
Jason Bateman
You're a good man.
Will Arnett
You'd be a good dinner hang. We'll maybe we'll hit you up for dinner in New York.
Kieran Culkin
Come come see the show and.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, I want to see the show. I really want to see the show.
Kieran Culkin
Hang out and do the thing. Yeah, you guys never do repeat guests on your show either, right?
Will Arnett
Cuz we have done it on live. When we did the tour we did some repeats and had some friends.
Kieran Culkin
I remember that. I watched that doc. He was great.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Kieran Culkin
That's when I learned from You, Jason. And I think about it every time I'm about to shake a salad. You said, don't shake it. Do you remember that? You put like whenever you put the dressing in a salad, you don't shake it.
Will Arnett
Don't shake it.
Kieran Culkin
I think of it every time now. And I go, oh, wait, I'm not supposed to shake it. And I go, wait, why? What's wrong with you?
Jason Bateman
Cascade.
Kieran Culkin
Why shake it?
Sean Hayes
No, you gotta shake it to get it even.
Jason Bateman
I'm a pretty vigorous shaker. Now.
Kieran Culkin
Let that dressing. Let it see merch. This is what you guys need. More quotes like that.
Will Arnett
Let it.
Kieran Culkin
Cascade. That's a sweater right there.
Sean Hayes
And the Tracy one.
Jason Bateman
That's right.
Kieran Culkin
And the Tracy one, which she wears like I'm Tracy.
Will Arnett
You are a guy who. You deserve all the success that you're having now. Especially considering how hard you worked and how talented you are. Such a massive fan, dude. Honestly, what a thrill to have you.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, keep.
Kieran Culkin
This is a dream come true. I mean it. Thanks, guys.
Sean Hayes
Casey, Casey.
Kieran Culkin
Big, big fan, man.
Jason Bateman
See you in a few months. Go get them.
Kieran Culkin
Bye, guys. Bye.
Jason Bateman
Thanks, pal. And he's slamming it.
Kieran Culkin
They told me to not slam it, but I'm slamming it.
Jason Bateman
Who says not?
Will Arnett
No, no, no, don't slam it.
Kieran Culkin
They said don't slam it.
Will Arnett
Cuz you've got a redundant record at home.
Kieran Culkin
I am. That's why I got to do a thing. Wait, do I do a thing now?
Jason Bateman
And then I do your thing and then you can.
Kieran Culkin
This is a great goodbye. I don't know how to do it. What? What do I do? What do I do with the thing? I don't know. So do.
Will Arnett
So if you bring your mouse to the bottom, do you see that little sound icon?
Kieran Culkin
No. No. Yes. No. Yes.
Jason Bateman
Click on that.
Sean Hayes
Yes.
Kieran Culkin
And then I hit stop.
Will Arnett
Stop. And then hit save.
Kieran Culkin
You gotta. You guys gotta use this as part of the goodbye. Okay. I press stop. And then. No, I just press stop. I don't see anything that says safe. We're at the top left. File and save. Share. Save.
Jason Bateman
So embarrassing.
Kieran Culkin
Save these. Oh my God. This is such a great goodbye. Yeah, use it. I'm done.
Will Arnett
Do.
Kieran Culkin
I can slam it now.
Sean Hayes
Slam it.
Kieran Culkin
Slam it.
Jason Bateman
It. Love you.
Will Arnett
Bye.
Sean Hayes
Love you. Bye.
Jason Bateman
Now, there's a nice young fella. Will.
Will Arnett
There is a nice young fella. You're right. What a great guest.
Sean Hayes
A good guest.
Will Arnett
Good guest. I've been excited to have him. And like I said, we had a sort of. We had to reschedule and that was, you know, a whole thing. But I was like, oh, God, we were so close to getting him. So glad we had him on. He's so.
Jason Bateman
Always wanted to wait. The interviews I've seen him do, I used to like, God, that's a great guy. I. I wonder if they just got him on a good day.
Will Arnett
Right?
Jason Bateman
You know, I hope he's really like that. And he really is. What a guy.
Will Arnett
He really is like that.
Jason Bateman
I want to work with him. I want to hang with him.
Will Arnett
Hey, Sean. Now, as you. As you scan the buyers.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, I wanted to. I wanted to talk to him about his ice. Well, I'm about to watch Home Alone again because I watch. We watch it every year, and he's got a little Home Alone.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. I love it.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. I bet she's still getting residuals on that. They're not. They're not. They're not. They're not thick ones anymore, but fun to see, actually.
Will Arnett
You know. You know what film he was in? He was in the first one and also the second one.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Which was what?
Will Arnett
Father of the Br.
Sean Hayes
Br. That was pretty good.
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SmartLess Podcast Episode Summary: "Kieran Culkin"
Release Date: December 23, 2024
In this episode of SmartLess, hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett welcome actor Kieran Culkin as their surprise guest. The conversation kicks off with light-hearted banter about Sean’s recent visit to the ER due to a kidney stone, setting a humorous and relatable tone for the discussion.
Sean Hayes shares his painful experience with a kidney stone, providing a personal glimpse into his life:
Sean Hayes (02:08): "I was in the ER again last night. I had a kidney stone and thought I was having appendicitis or something. The pain was awful."
The hosts express concern and camaraderie, with Jason teasingly asking Sean if he "smashed" the crossbow (a prop joke), highlighting the show’s signature humor.
Kieran Culkin delves into his approach to acting, emphasizing spontaneity and minimal rehearsing:
Kieran Culkin (16:20): "I sort of just go fly by the seat of my pants. I can rely on instinct and just go."
He contrasts his method with traditional acting techniques, illustrating his preference for natural and improvised performances. This philosophy is particularly evident in his role in the film "A Real Pain", where his character's spontaneity is pivotal.
The conversation shifts to Kieran’s significant roles, especially his portrayal in "Succession":
Will Arnett (08:15): "You have a lot in common with us, having started young on a professional level."
Kieran discusses the challenges and growth he experienced while working on a high-profile TV show, highlighting the shift from child acting to mature roles. He also touches upon his latest project, "A Real Pain", detailing his collaboration with director and co-star Jesse Eisenberg:
Kieran Culkin (08:49): "The character in 'A Real Pain' is the most spontaneous and surprising person, just when you think you have him down, he gives a different reaction than expected."
Reflecting on his journey, Kieran shares insights into growing up as a child actor and transitioning into adult roles without falling into common pitfalls:
Kieran Culkin (40:22): "When I started working on 'Succession,' I had to throw everything away that I used to do as a kid. It wasn’t about sticking to a strict regimen anymore."
He emphasizes the importance of evolving his craft and avoiding the "bad habits" that can accompany early exposure to the acting industry.
Kieran Culkin provides a candid look into his personal life, balancing his acting career with family responsibilities:
Kieran Culkin (35:05): "I have two kids, a three-year-old and a five-year-old. That's my hobby, really."
He discusses the challenges of maintaining a private life amidst a demanding career, opting for minimal hobbies to prioritize his family. The hosts humorously probe into his daily routines and parental duties, revealing Kieran’s grounded and relatable nature.
Throughout the episode, Kieran shares several entertaining and heartfelt stories:
Hosting SNL:
Kieran recounts his experience hosting Saturday Night Live, highlighting the surreal and joyous aspects of the event:
Kieran Culkin (30:29): "Hosting SNL was a dream come true. Being part of three sketches was incredible."
Theater Mishap:
An unforgettable theater story where Kieran battled food poisoning mid-performance showcases his resilience:
Kieran Culkin (26:22): "I had to deliver a speech about money but ended up vomiting on stage. The stage manager had a bucket ready, and it was the most surreal experience."
Meeting His Wife:
Kieran describes his fortuitous and quirky meeting with his wife, Jazz:
Kieran Culkin (50:12): "I walked into a bar, saw her, and literally stole her friend's seat. That was the beginning."
These anecdotes not only entertain but also illustrate Kieran’s ability to find humor and grace in challenging situations.
The hosts explore how Kieran manages the demands of his acting career while staying present for his family. Kieran discusses the logistics and emotional toll of lengthy shoots:
Kieran Culkin (37:55): "I tried to back out of a movie once because of the long schedule, but the experience taught me to adapt and embrace the role fully."
He emphasizes the importance of flexibility and prioritizing family, even when faced with demanding work schedules.
As the episode draws to a close, the hosts and Kieran engage in playful interactions, reflecting on the enjoyable and insightful conversation. Kieran expresses his appreciation for being on the show:
Kieran Culkin (64:08): "This is a dream come true. Thanks, guys."
The episode wraps up with light-hearted banter, reinforcing the genuine and friendly dynamic between the hosts and their guest.
This episode of SmartLess offers an engaging and in-depth look into Kieran Culkin’s life, both professional and personal. His candid storytelling, combined with the hosts' witty interactions, provides listeners with valuable insights into the challenges and triumphs of transitioning from child actor to adult roles, maintaining personal relationships, and balancing a demanding career with family life.
Whether you're a fan of Kieran Culkin, fascinated by the acting industry, or simply enjoy authentic and humorous conversations, this episode is a must-listen. Tune in to SmartLess for more thoughtful dialogues and organic hilarity.