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Jason Bateman
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Will Arnett
Congrats. Who's the dad?
Jason Bateman
Nobody's the dad. Or the mom. We're giving birth to a new episod.
Sean Hayes
What?
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Parker Posey
Oh, my God.
Will Arnett
I didn't even know we were pregnant.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Will Arnett
Oh, my God.
Parker Posey
Cigars for everybody.
Will Arnett
Boy or girl?
Jason Bateman
We don't know yet.
Parker Posey
Oh, gender reveal coming.
Will Arnett
Ew. Are you about to explode?
Jason Bateman
Welcome to Smart List.
Parker Posey
Smart less.
Sean Hayes
Smart less.
Parker Posey
Smart less.
Will Arnett
Oh, good, he's into the hair.
Parker Posey
I'm wearing a hat today.
Will Arnett
Are you gonna get a haircut at any point? Are you gonna keep letting it get. Letting it get. Because I'm gonna work. I'm gonna grow mine out again.
Parker Posey
I think I'm gonna. I'm gonna keep going for a little bit for the summer, because I'm not really planning on doing too much this summer.
Will Arnett
You're gonna let it be long in the summer? Hang on, Sean, no one's talking to you yet. Do you want it. Don't you want it short during the summer, though? Will it mean for heat? Hot?
Parker Posey
I know, it does seem. It does seem counterintuitive.
Will Arnett
Sean, can you mute your mic?
Parker Posey
Sean, he did say. Sean, he did said that we weren't talking to you yet.
Jason Bateman
I know, I know, but let me know. Just give me, like, a hand signal or, like, touch your nose or something.
Parker Posey
I think that he's going to get to you, and you'll know when he's ready. I mean, I don't want to speak for you, Jason.
Jason Bateman
Okay, so go ahead with the hair. Go ahead with the hair.
Parker Posey
Yeah, I think. I don't know. I'm just going to. For the summertime. Going to. Sorry. Thank you, Jason. Sean, even the. Yes.
Will Arnett
And then it's. Even the chuckles.
Jason Bateman
Sorry. God.
Parker Posey
He chuckled. It's a good name.
Jason Bateman
God bless. Wait, but, Will, what would it look like if you cut your hair? You would look so different. Would you ever want to just cut the back? I'll cut it for you.
Will Arnett
No, how about just cut the top and leave the party in the rear?
Parker Posey
Oh, no, no, no. I was thinking about, like. Or just going. I want to go for, like, Italian soccer manager, like that guy's Simone in Gazi.
Will Arnett
Tiny Pony.
Jason Bateman
No, no, no.
Parker Posey
Just kind of like that sort of Euro kind of long, and then. You know what I mean?
Jason Bateman
No. You look like Javier Bardem in no country for Old men.
Parker Posey
Well, that's not a compliment with the heart. No, I know that's not a compliment.
Jason Bateman
No. If you comb it forward, that's what you would look like. And you'd shoot people with a cow thing. Whatever he did with that thing.
Parker Posey
What was that thing?
Will Arnett
Sean, has your hair ever been crazy? Has it always been what you got?
Jason Bateman
My hair has been what? Really long? You know, when I grow it. Really long. Scotty says every single morning, if it's long, he goes, hey, Mav. Which is Tom Cruise, Maverick and Top Gun.
Will Arnett
Well, that's a good thing, isn't it?
Jason Bateman
No, I know, but he's like, does.
Will Arnett
He chase you around the house? Is he saying, what do you say when you.
Parker Posey
When you go to Skevo, when you go to Sky? What do you say? Just give me the accountant.
Jason Bateman
You say, wait, did. Every time.
Parker Posey
Give me the cpa.
Jason Bateman
Let me tell you when I think I told you this. When I went on tour with Kenny Rogers and.
Parker Posey
The Country Western star.
Jason Bateman
When I. When he. He would call people up during the 12 Days of Christmas from the audience, whatever. And this one woman walked up there and she, like, big, almost like Princess Leia, like, things on the side of her head. And backstage.
Will Arnett
Cinnabons.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, Cinnabons. And I was so stoned during that whole tour.
Will Arnett
Why wouldn't you be?
Jason Bateman
It's true. Why would not I?
Will Arnett
By the way, what was he charging per ticket for The Kenny Rogers 12 Days of Christmas?
Parker Posey
That's a great question.
Jason Bateman
I don't remember. I don't remember.
Will Arnett
It's probably pretty steep.
Jason Bateman
It was. Well, it was stadiums. It was, like, huge. But anyway, I go. I said, I was backstage acting like I was in the barber and I commented on the woman. I go. And I look in the mirror and I go, just Planet of the Apes today, if you can. Because it looked. Remember the Planet of the Apes girl? Women had that hair on the side.
Parker Posey
Yeah, we got it. That's why we laughed.
Will Arnett
Thank you.
Parker Posey
It was the laugh was the indicator that we got. You don't need to explain. Don't sell past the sale.
Jason Bateman
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yesterday, Will, I had lunch with our friend.
Will Arnett
This is from the prepared section of Sean's notes.
Jason Bateman
Well, no. Well, it's what really happened yesterday. And I got my tarot cards read for the first time ever. Have you ever had that? Yeah. Have you ever. I've never done it. Anyway, so our friend does this for a living. This person that will and I know. And I got my tarot cards read, but that's the Whole story. I'd never had it done before. I don't really remember, but I had a world card, a judgment card, and a. A guy that was hanged. Like.
Will Arnett
Did you go all in when you saw your hand?
Jason Bateman
No. Yeah, exactly. Have you. Have you ever had a gun?
Parker Posey
Have you ever been hypnotized?
Jason Bateman
No.
Will Arnett
With a stopwatch. I wonder if they still do that.
Jason Bateman
No, I've never been hypnotized.
Will Arnett
No, I have.
Jason Bateman
Have you really?
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Parker Posey
Why?
Will Arnett
Yeah, I forget what was.
Sean Hayes
Okay.
Parker Posey
Is it ongoing?
Will Arnett
I snapped out of it a couple hours ago, but this was. This was like. I don' 15 years ago. It was part of. I was into some heavy therapy at the time. I was trying to, you know, fill some holes and mend some breaks in my. In my brain. And it worked. It worked pretty good. I was surprised because I was pretty skeptical, as one would be going into hypnotherapy, I think they called it.
Parker Posey
What was. What was. And can I. Just to get to the nuts and bolts of it. What was your involvement? Just showing up. Amanda did everything else. Found the person, made the appointment, drove you there.
Will Arnett
Without a doubt. Yeah. Yeah. She did everything except just lay me back easy on the sofa.
Jason Bateman
Well, no. And then she was hypnotized. She did everything.
Parker Posey
Oh, it was her.
Will Arnett
But it was. It was what I was very curious of. Like, what would that be? Do you just kind of zonk out? And it was. It basically took me to the place right before you fall asleep. And so I'm in that space and a bunch of memories easily came back.
Jason Bateman
Oh, wow.
Will Arnett
Like, right there at my fingertips. And I was able to talk freely about all of these things that I guess are under a layer.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. I would just go straight to sleep. I wouldn't be able to speak.
Will Arnett
I know, but that's. That's. That's. That's the hypnotherapist talent. They can. They can kind of keep you just like floating right there on the edge, I guess.
Parker Posey
And you remembered all of it and. As if it.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I guess. Yeah. I mean, I did retain some gain from it. From it. I suppose. So. Yeah. I guess it's a. It's a valid therapy for sure. Never much better than getting dealt a hand of cards. I mean, what's going on?
Jason Bateman
That was kind of interesting, but I don't really remember the tarot cards.
Will Arnett
There's a. That is also super valid. And who am. I don't watch that.
Parker Posey
What are you.
Will Arnett
Yeah. No.
Parker Posey
Are you walking it back?
Will Arnett
These people.
Parker Posey
You owe somebody money or something?
Jason Bateman
What's going on. But, guys, speaking of hypnotic.
Parker Posey
Wow. World class, Sean. World class.
Jason Bateman
Thank you. My guest today studied ballet as a kid, has some legit mime skills. Plays the mandolin. No, plays the mandolin as an actress. She's played a deranged vampire, a real life prosecutor, an actor playing a reporter, a sociopath in outer space, and of course, a dog owner with a lot of feelings. You might not always see her coming, but once you do, she's the only thing you want to watch. Indie Queen forever. Party girl. It's a totally original and someone I love very much.
Will Arnett
Double P. Parker Posey.
Parker Posey
Double.
Jason Bateman
Was that torture?
Sean Hayes
I was hypnotized by that.
Parker Posey
Sure.
Sean Hayes
I was happy to be awake now. Hi, fellas.
Will Arnett
Kind of over here.
Sean Hayes
Love your podcast.
Will Arnett
How have you not been on the show already? Are you sure this isn't your second appearance?
Sean Hayes
Hollywood.
Parker Posey
She doesn't.
Jason Bateman
You don't have to live in Hollywood to be on the show.
Sean Hayes
I know, but I don't. Well, someone didn't ask me.
Parker Posey
I don't live in Hollywood either.
Sean Hayes
You just invite me?
Jason Bateman
I just did.
Sean Hayes
I'm in upstate New York, but I'll come over. Yeah.
Will Arnett
It looks like you live in a very handsome apartment there in the West Village, I want to say.
Jason Bateman
Are you at the West Village?
Sean Hayes
It's called the Chateau Marmont and it's on Sunset.
Jason Bateman
Oh, you are in la.
Sean Hayes
And when I. Yeah, I'm in la.
Parker Posey
Actually, out of all of us, you're the only one who's actually in Hollywood right now, as it turns out, despite the show.
Sean Hayes
Really? Where are you guys?
Parker Posey
We're elsewhere.
Will Arnett
You know, we're in the Wills in Simi Valley. Sean is Chatsworth.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
And I'm in Bray.
Parker Posey
Sean's in. Sean's in.
Sean Hayes
What is going. What?
Will Arnett
We get a bang for our buck. Better.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. Parker, you look gorge. I like the color of your hair.
Sean Hayes
I dyed the hair. I dyed the hair for a movie I did with Sam Rockwell and John Malkovich. A Martin McDonough film.
Will Arnett
Jesus Christ. I'm so jealous of that film. That cast, I mean. But you had to go to South Africa for it, right?
Sean Hayes
Easter Island.
Parker Posey
Easter Island.
Sean Hayes
Easter Island.
Jason Bateman
It's called Wild. It's called Wild Horse nine. Right?
Sean Hayes
Wild Horse Nine. Easter island is the furthest place you can go in the world. Being furthest away from anywhere else. It's a 17 mile island with the heads. With.
Jason Bateman
Oh, with. That's the thing.
Sean Hayes
The cult of the.
Parker Posey
It's off the coast of South America.
Sean Hayes
Right.
Will Arnett
So it's not South Africa. South America.
Parker Posey
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Parker Posey
It would be like, if you flew from, like, Lima, Peru, and you wanted to go to Sydney, Australia, you'd fly right over it.
Will Arnett
Okay, guy, cool it.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Arnett
Everybody's got property in Portugal and familiar with the Southern hemisphere.
Parker Posey
It's smart. Okay?
Sean Hayes
I wasn't. I wasn't. My parents would play a game with me in the car, and they'd be like, what's the capital of Denver? And I'd say, Colorado. And they would just think that was hilarious, how stupid I was at geography and knowing where things were. And I would, like, do this thing. And my grandmother Nani, she'd have this world, this globe. You know, those globes that you would love to spin it. You know, I'm gonna go here. And I would just play that for hours.
Parker Posey
I love that.
Sean Hayes
And say, you know what? I'll know where I am when I get there. And if I'm lost and I don't know where I am, I'm gonna ask somebody and they're gonna tell me.
Jason Bateman
That's how it works.
Sean Hayes
Directions.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
And before the phones, I knew where to go, and I'd ask people, like, directions, and I was fine.
Will Arnett
Yeah. Did you come straight from Southeast Asia, home, repack your bags, and then go to Easter island, or was there a job in between? I'm speaking of the White Lotus show.
Sean Hayes
Oh, my God. That's a good question. Because there's been so much traveling that I wake up in bed and I don't know where I am. It takes me too much.
Will Arnett
You need a nice sitcom over at Universal Studios, than you just relax.
Sean Hayes
Do you know what? You know, I'm really loving Matlock. I'm loving Kathy Bates.
Will Arnett
And you are?
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Jason Bateman
Have you watched.
Will Arnett
I bet you could do a nice arc on there. Just let them know.
Sean Hayes
Oh, I just like that cozy formula. And it's. She's just fantastic. And I'm. I'm. I'm into that. I'm also in. I watched 1923 with Helen Mirren.
Parker Posey
Oh, yeah, I haven't seen that yet. How is that?
Sean Hayes
It was. It's great. You know, I love the costumes and the learning about history and geography and.
Will Arnett
It sounds like you're good about watching stuff. Are you. Do you. Do you gobble up everything?
Sean Hayes
See, I'm doing all this. This is the awards push of Emmys, and, you know, from White Lotus. I've never been a part of the machine that has, you know, had that happen.
Will Arnett
You're taking a look at the competition. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And how do you think your chances are holding Up. Do you think Kathy Bates is the horse to beat?
Sean Hayes
I do.
Will Arnett
Uh huh.
Sean Hayes
She's the one to beat. I wonder if there's a horse named after her. There's a horse named after me.
Will Arnett
Is there really?
Sean Hayes
There's like a Posey Parker and yeah, I lived with a woman named Marcia Brill in the West Village. She was an 86 year old born and bred New Yorker Jewish lady who bet on the hors and she'd go, go ahead, make my day, go get em, make my day. And she would smoke and she was 4 foot 11. I love it. And my friends would come by and they'd be like she's fabulous.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, yeah.
Sean Hayes
Like she is like having a stiff drink at 5 and was an editor.
Will Arnett
You'd go to the OTB with her or she'd just watch it on TV.
Sean Hayes
This was on TV on like a little perfect, you know, black and white, little box TV from the 80s downstairs around the kitchen.
Parker Posey
Amaz.
Sean Hayes
Those times are no longer. But yeah, I'm open to la. I want to, I want to. I'm using this podcast for you guys to tell everyone that I'm moving to Hollywood.
Jason Bateman
True. No you're not, are you?
Sean Hayes
But you're not even. You guys aren't here, you're not in Hollywood.
Jason Bateman
Well, we're in Hollywood. We're not Hollywood.
Parker Posey
I'm in the process of moving back to New York. So you know, I'm going the other way.
Sean Hayes
Is everyone just not.
Parker Posey
Because I'm going back.
Sean Hayes
You are. Okay. I don't really know where to be and I think that's from being in so many stories and I should figure it out and stop this.
Will Arnett
Like wait, but Parker, you've been going back and forth for years and years and years. If you wanted to move out to la, you would have, but you kind of, you're in both all the time and all over the world.
Sean Hayes
I'm in a farmhouse, I'm a lady. I'm a steward of the land on this farm in upstate New York. So I couldn't carry both the city and the country and so now I'm like this.
Will Arnett
So you got rid of the no.
Sean Hayes
Putting birdseed in the feeders? Yeah.
Will Arnett
Really?
Sean Hayes
It was too much. Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Oh, I didn't know that.
Parker Posey
That's a big switch.
Sean Hayes
So yeah, it's a big switch.
Parker Posey
But like, like Hudson Valley type deal.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, the Hudson Valley type deal.
Jason Bateman
Oh wow.
Sean Hayes
Walter Goggins is close by. I just saw him last night. I ran into him. He has completed 18 months of non stop travel and he Did Fallout. He did Righteous Gemstones. He did White Lotus. And I saw him driving up in the parking lot. And I. I was meeting some friends at 5. Well, friends were picking me up at 5:30. 5. It was 5:30. Walton drives up and Walton. And I see him in the car, and I swear he, like, started crying. He was like, I'm done. I'm done. I just finished all of this, you know, mountain of work.
Will Arnett
He gets to relax. He's got a beautiful house. We've seen it in magazines.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, my house isn't like that. My house is really crunchy granola. Sweet. Yeah, I like it.
Jason Bateman
But you love it.
Sean Hayes
The renovations. I'm trying to renovate and get a new kitchen because there's the insulation, you know, the pipes freeze and all that. And I love a project, but. So my house has been this thing that I've. This being, you know, I don't look at my. I don't look at my house like mine. Like, I just want to give to it. Cause it's an old farmhouse, right? So I guess what I'm saying, Will, is like. And you guys, I'm trying to figure out just where to land in a community.
Parker Posey
Let's shoot it. Let's shoot it. Let's cover it. Let's shoot the reno of the kitchen.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, right.
Parker Posey
We're gonna get together with the gang over at Discovery, and they're gonna pay for it.
Will Arnett
We're the twins.
Sean Hayes
Well, I already. That's a great idea because. And that's what I tell the contractors when they come over. I'm like, I wanna. Can you. Are you open to me filming you with my phone? I would love to do, like, a home improvement show. I love this. Would you wear this world? Put this on. Yeah.
Parker Posey
Dress like you're from 1920.
Sean Hayes
Do the hokey pokey.
Parker Posey
Dress like you're from 1923. Can you do that? Can we. Let's do a period Renault.
Sean Hayes
Yes.
Jason Bateman
And get me a hamburger sandwich. And then what about. Wait, so Parker, you also.
Sean Hayes
So I'm pitching all that stuff to, like, dead eyes.
Jason Bateman
You told me that. I mean, I read that you like Duvall Kitchens. Because speaking of renovating your place. What's a Duval kitchen? I had to Google it.
Sean Hayes
Duval is loved spelled backwards, stupid.
Jason Bateman
Just throw away my notes.
Parker Posey
Why don't you just look at the word and see what would be backwards?
Jason Bateman
I didn't know it was that. It's not a real thing. Is it a real thing?
Sean Hayes
Spell out loved and put it. Go to the mirror.
Jason Bateman
I just did it.
Parker Posey
Just look at stuff backwards. You did?
Jason Bateman
Yeah. Wait, it's a real thing. Devo.
Will Arnett
Yeah. What the.
Sean Hayes
They had this on hbo. Max called for the Love of Kitchens. And there are these groovy English people in their 50s, our age, and he was making furniture in the 90s and shopping around antique stores and refurbishing this and building that and meeting all these cool guys and, you know, making a living and being kind of a vagabond artist and making cool stuff. And, you know, that started way back then, right? Like in the 70s, people were making their own furniture and the nomadic life stuff and all that. Then it goes out of style and then it came back. But now I think there's a resurgence. People are like, let me see things get fixed and built and give me the reveal. Let me see how it's made. And so I love a reveal. And so, yeah, she didn't become a creative director on the show Duvall until she was in her 40s and her kids were grown. And so there are this partnership, these two people that are so lovely and have this really beautiful show. And yeah, it's called for the Love of Kitchens.
Will Arnett
Got it.
Sean Hayes
So Duvall is their thing. But see, I don't know if I would. I said bye to the renovation because it's so expensive. I should just like sell it and move somewhere else. Like.
Will Arnett
No, just keep working. Just keep working. Just keep making money and then the price won't matter. Right?
Sean Hayes
It's different for women. Women don't get paid with the guys. I don't know if you've heard about that. What's a big discrepancy? There's a big discrepancy, darling. It just is. In these little indie movies, you don't make money well.
Will Arnett
But you know what? You should be applauded.
Sean Hayes
But you should do an endorsement.
Will Arnett
You should be applauded for. I guarantee you you've been tempted or offered or presented with some very ugly, low hanging fruit that you have avoided, Right? Some big, like, hey, Parker, be the star of this big shitty studio movie. And you're like, yeah, I'm good. I like working with cool people on cool. Is it true? It's gotta be true.
Sean Hayes
You know, it wouldn't be true. Now, I'll be honest.
Parker Posey
It was true when you were younger. It was true.
Sean Hayes
It was true when I was younger. But no, it still is true. You know, I had to turn something down that would have paid me a lot of money after White Lotus and I could barely put a sentence together. I was so wiped from almost Seven months of work in Thailand.
Jason Bateman
Seven months.
Sean Hayes
And what that heavy lift was and what that long distance run was that it's like, you know, after you go through something, there's like a reverb that I need like three months, three or four months to settle down and get back to myself.
Will Arnett
And then they're dangling this big paycheck and still you were in line.
Sean Hayes
And I said, I can't. I can't.
Will Arnett
Good for you.
Jason Bateman
We'll be right back.
Will Arnett
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Parker Posey
You know, it's amazing, Parker, I remember you. We don't know each other, but I lived in New York in the whole 90s when you were doing all the greatest films. And you were one of those people who used to doing the kind of stuff that I wanted to do. Like, I just like admired you so.
Will Arnett
Much and do continue to this day.
Parker Posey
And we. We're about the same age. Maybe I'm 55, but.
Will Arnett
But we're like, you guys both play really young though.
Parker Posey
I would see you around and stuff and I wasn't working and I was desperately. But I'd see you around in the city and then doing stuff.
Will Arnett
Creep.
Parker Posey
And we had a lot of mutual. And I'd be like, I just. I want to do what she's doing.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Parker Posey
I want to do work. You're working with great directors, you're working with great performers, you're working with great writers all the time. Like consistently year after year. All the films, Kicking and screaming, Party girl, whatever. All these great movies that you did.
Will Arnett
All the Chris guest stuff.
Parker Posey
Yeah. And then you had the Chris guest stuff. I mean, you. Come on, Parker, you gotta be really proud. You have an incredible body of work.
Sean Hayes
You have. I just like. But it's. Yes, I am. You know, I can't say that I'm proud. That doesn't really. I feel so blessed. I feel so lucky. I mean, this is lucky.
Parker Posey
Not lucky, fortunate. It's not luck. And you had choice, good fortune, but it's not luck. I hate to break it down.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is there. I see what you mean. But yeah, it is a thing. And I mean, I want to write another book. The last seven or eight years have been so I'm just full of stories, you know, And I know I'm a story maker and I'm here to share what I'm living and what I'm living.
Will Arnett
Now, wait a second, listeners. We have a. You know, we hate the term storyteller on this show for the obvious reasons.
Jason Bateman
But you.
Will Arnett
No, no, but you just said storymaker. I think that's a.
Parker Posey
That's okay.
Will Arnett
I like storymaker.
Parker Posey
Oh, we're gonna allow it. We'll allow it.
Jason Bateman
Thanks to Parker posting.
Parker Posey
Parker, Parker. I'll tell You. Why? And by the way, you could get away with all of it because you have the credibility. There are too many people now in this town. And by this town, I mean in LA and New York, I can consider, who have been that term. Storyteller has become this thing. And they refer to themselves as a storyteller.
Jason Bateman
Well, like influencers.
Sean Hayes
So I'm so. I barely can do zoom right now. Like, I've listened to a few of your. I am so feeding the bird feed, you know, putting the seed in the bird feeders. Like, I didn't even know the storyteller thing was a thing that people are saying.
Parker Posey
But think about it. When you hear people say it all the time, you'll go for lunch and people like, as a storyteller, you're like, you made an episode of a sitcom. Yeah, yeah, up.
Jason Bateman
Exactly.
Parker Posey
Like, what are you talking about? And why are you referring to yourself in the third person as this. As this abstract object that's full of creativity? Like, go yourself right. Right now.
Sean Hayes
You deserve sitting in a chair. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Parker Posey
Like, but you. But you. You're right. Jason's right. And you say story maker and you are full of stories. And you. You deserve it. And there's a. There's a.
Jason Bateman
Absolutely.
Parker Posey
You have that. You can back it up.
Sean Hayes
It feels good to be supported by you guys. You know, like, when my fame hit in the 90s, it's being famous and having that kind of success that I couldn't really explain. And I still don't really understand it.
Parker Posey
Like, look at this, Parker. Look at the screen.
Will Arnett
Look at that. That's Sean P. Hayes.
Jason Bateman
That's me and you in 1998. And you had no idea who I was. And I was like, I'm obsessed with Parker Posey. And I grabbed you and I took a photo, and of course, I was in a movie called Billy's Hollywood Screencast. And I wear the merch. An idiot.
Parker Posey
Oh, Sean, I didn't know you were in that.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, exactly.
Parker Posey
I did it.
Sean Hayes
I saw.
Jason Bateman
I was Billy and Billy's out Screen Kiss.
Parker Posey
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
You were so incredible in that play. Oh, my God. That was.
Will Arnett
Which one?
Parker Posey
Hang on a second.
Will Arnett
Are we talking about. Are we talking about. Stop, stop.
Sean Hayes
What's.
Will Arnett
What's the double word one. What's the double.
Jason Bateman
Promises. Promises.
Will Arnett
That's it.
Parker Posey
That's it. Promises, promises.
Jason Bateman
This place. But then, Parker. Yeah. Speaking about being famous, you said it twice. But so. But being like, I just had that photo at the ready. Cause I wanted to show you because that was you, you know, just Becoming Parker posey in the 90s and being labeled the indie queen, which I. Did you take that as a.
Parker Posey
The literal it girl?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, the literal it girl. Did you take that compliment well or did you not want to?
Sean Hayes
You know what it is? It's like when people point you out in a place as cool as New York and New York City and you're not cool anymore. So it's like I felt like I was called a name in a way where I was trying to be. Or my path was more like. Oh. Greg Mottola did a reading of his movie that he was trying to get financed. And then I introduced him to Liev Schreiber who was in Party Girl. And then we do the Day Trippers a year later because he couldn't get the original script that he wanted. Finance, finance. Because the budget was too. You know, it was such a community back then.
Jason Bateman
Right, right, right.
Sean Hayes
And I felt like when it got exposed that Right. When I got exposed and the whole indie movement got exposed, it also got co opted by the studio system.
Jason Bateman
That's right, that's right.
Sean Hayes
And then it became this other thing. And all of a sudden I wasn't viable to get a movie financed. And it was such a head trip because. And then I would have to audition for Hollywood movies when I carried the lead in independent movies that were shot in 23 days. And all of a sudden I'm in a fluorescent lit room, like sweating and feeling like I'm being gaslit, you know, I can promise I can do and memorize these lines and the scripts and.
Will Arnett
I let's just go.
Sean Hayes
Trust me, you know?
Will Arnett
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sean Hayes
And I wasn't. So I had like a good 20 years of that, you know, after. And then working with great auteurs and doing these, you know, not getting paid a lot, but being able to, you know, work, fulfill your in the world.
Will Arnett
Wealthy with respect.
Parker Posey
Yeah, my creativity and feeling satisfied, I imagine.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, it's a weird thing. It's like, it's a mystical thing. I think my life and people's lives can have a mystical kind of quality if they're paying attention of like. And I think it's a healing thing. I think I evolve, I grow. I'm kind of a hippie like that.
Will Arnett
Well, let me ask you this. Are you at a spot in your career? And then we're gonna talk about your personal life. That's gonna be great. That's gonna be a whole lighting change and a music change, but professionally, costume change. Are you at a place right now that you had the balls to even imagine and dream and hope for. Is this the career you thought you were gonna have or the career that you hoped that you had? It's a lot there.
Parker Posey
Wow. That's a lot. Jb.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Parker Posey
What the fuck?
Sean Hayes
I feel.
Jason Bateman
That's a good question.
Sean Hayes
You know, when you do a lot of traveling and you're not home. I haven't been home for more than five days since February.
Will Arnett
Right.
Sean Hayes
It's so much more interesting than your career or where you thought you would be. And as far as, like, at. You know, the success is something like White Lotus gives you. Right, right. That I feel so blessed. I feel so protected. I feel in my flow, and that is. I feel like I've learned. I've been through a lot, you know, from 45 to 56 was a lot like.
Jason Bateman
What do you mean? What's a lot like?
Will Arnett
Like good or challenging?
Sean Hayes
Like, my dad had prostate cancer for 20 years from agent Orange in Vietnam.
Jason Bateman
Oh, I'm sorry.
Sean Hayes
I'm talking, like, a prolonged grief. Like, anticipatory grief. I think I had a lot of grief with my career and going, like. I don't quite understand it as a woman. You get older and then, you know, and the culture changes. So you have that, and you. You have good ideas that you pitch that are educational and kids would love them and they don't get made. You know, there's a lot of disappointment in the culture right now.
Jason Bateman
Now more than ever now.
Sean Hayes
More as an artist. And you're just kind of like, but this is such a powerful medium. I don't understand why More is being, you know, on the screen. You know, how if the arts are going to be subsidized in New York, is it going to be the apex of creativity? Then what can we make to form something that will be that and will hold that for our playwrights, for our writers who are born to tell there, that have that soul. And I've read in enough scripts and I've seen enough plays to know that there is that, like, divine spark when you read something that is like Our Town or something that is so. And, you know, we used to be a culture that aimed toward that. And I hope, you know, I'm an optimist. Like, I will be that, you know, to Moscow. To Moscow. Chekhov character till the day I die, like, I believe. And, you know, being in Thailand for so long and coming back to America was so inspiring. I mean, everyone. I'm like, ugh. You know, I'm like, this country and these people and these trees and this nature, like, do you know how lucky we are?
Jason Bateman
Right?
Sean Hayes
Like, we gotta like shape up in like this way that has been.
Parker Posey
So what would you do now that you sit here? I love hearing you talk.
Sean Hayes
Is that too much? Tooting my heart.
Parker Posey
Are you kidding?
Jason Bateman
I love that. I love.
Parker Posey
If it was. If you had 20 more minutes.
Will Arnett
Did you just toot.
Parker Posey
If you had 20 more minutes on that, we would be good.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Parker Posey
Having said all that, when you sit so sitting where you are today with all that information, like having all that stuff and you too did. Would you.
Jason Bateman
What?
Parker Posey
What would you. Is there anything that you would have done differently? Was there a moment, was there a thing? Is there something you look back on and go.
Jason Bateman
She just tooted.
Parker Posey
No, see what I mean?
Jason Bateman
Stupid.
Parker Posey
Like, would you, would you have done anything, Would you have done anything differently?
Sean Hayes
Well, I know because you're just all learning about, you know, you're, you're changing and you're like. I mean, I think I, I, I could have been easier on myself. I think I could have not worked so hard and I could have deserved.
Parker Posey
More or felt like you were deserving more. You mean, Is that what you mean?
Sean Hayes
Yes, that's right.
Jason Bateman
But wait, but Parker, I wanna go through things in your life that kind of. I read about that fascinate me. I didn't know you were a mime. You were trained in mind.
Sean Hayes
That was a lie.
Jason Bateman
A mind training was.
Sean Hayes
That was a total lie.
Jason Bateman
Oh, I didn't know that.
Sean Hayes
God, I was like, I had to put a resume and I'm a fan. I saw Marcel Marceau in New York work, like on his 80th birthday perform.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
And I cried my face off.
Jason Bateman
Because you thought it was amazing that he was moving boxes that weren't there.
Sean Hayes
Yes, yes.
Will Arnett
I've never.
Sean Hayes
Now where is anything that can reach like a four year old and a hundred year old? Like what that did, like, it was just so artful and fantastic.
Parker Posey
Jason has a question about mine.
Sean Hayes
I'm not making a fun of mine. You're not getting me to make fun of mine. But I lied.
Will Arnett
No, but it's still good because I feel like it's so sort of kitsch now that you could actually make a run at it if you had. If anyone out there has some mime skills, I bet you could really make yourself a nice living nowadays because it's kind of ironic. And you could probably pack some, some theaters, some large theaters, maybe not arenas, but I think you could do, you could do a theater.
Parker Posey
Is it still going?
Jason Bateman
What about mines?
Will Arnett
I mean, your Overhead's low. Oh, you need something black. Something black and tight.
Parker Posey
No props. You're not allowed props.
Sean Hayes
No words.
Jason Bateman
And just white.
Will Arnett
Go get after it. You need a spotlight.
Parker Posey
Stripey T shirt. And a spotlight.
Will Arnett
And some leggings.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, yeah.
Will Arnett
I'll go see a mime show.
Jason Bateman
Okay. So wait, so Parker, you were named after the model Susie Parker, Correct?
Sean Hayes
Yeah. There are two parts of the story they did love. My parents, you know, fell madly in love and married young. And my dad was drafted and the twins were born.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. You have a twin brother, which I didn't know about.
Sean Hayes
Twin brother. And my mom had a friend when she was a little girl who. My mom was 12. Like, 11 or 12, still a girl Scout. And one of her friends had her sister, had a baby, and named her Parker. And my mom, whose name is Linda with a Y. She always hated it. Linda with a Y. Y to my mother, Linda with a Y. And she goes, oh, there's a little butterfly outside.
Will Arnett
No way. Let's stop for a second.
Sean Hayes
And so my mom said, if I ever have a little girl, I'm gonna give her a strong name like Parker. But then she met my dad with this name, like Posey. And I almost died at birth. My dad was, like, there in his.
Parker Posey
Wait, wait, let's not gloss over that. Hang on a second. We stopped for the butterfly, but you don't stop for the donuts.
Jason Bateman
Are you plow through the death?
Will Arnett
Were you almost dropped or was it.
Parker Posey
What happened?
Will Arnett
Were you still in the oven?
Sean Hayes
I was still in the oven. I was born premature. And a week before, on Halloween, my mom got the news that she was having twins. And so the story was that I was in her ribs, and they didn't even know where I was.
Parker Posey
Oh, God.
Sean Hayes
So I was out at, like, Eve.
Parker Posey
Speaking the Bible, right? Like, Eve came from Adam's rib.
Sean Hayes
Keep going. Yeah, there you go.
Jason Bateman
Wow. There you go.
Parker Posey
It's all coming together.
Sean Hayes
And so, yeah, I was, like, not even three pounds. And so the doctor came in saying, your boy is fine, but we don't know about your girl. We need a name.
Parker Posey
So we're just gonna park her right here.
Sean Hayes
So I'm gonna park her right here. And what's the middle name? And my middle name is Christian. Because they wanted the help of Jesus and God and anyone else who would listen. And so, yeah, my dad would tell this story that he was in the hospital with a six pack of beer, like, kneeling and praying as he's, like, looking at me in an incubator with these, like. And he's like, please, God, please let my little girl live. And at that moment, I screamed, no way. And so my dad. So I was like, okay, now my dad. My dad talks to God all the time. So it was like, such a crazy story to tell, like a little kid, you know how you tell. So I got a lot of that mythologizing. Yeah, that's cool, though, as a kid, which I. And then he also said. And I looked at that beer can, and I said, my girl is the size of this beer can. She's like a beer can with legs. And that was like. Yeah, I was like. And look at me now.
Parker Posey
So were you treated like this sort of the golden child? Cause you kind of, like, against all odds, you kind of came to life and all that stuff.
Sean Hayes
No, no, no, no. They were.
Parker Posey
I think that's often the case, isn't it? Like, sometimes people.
Sean Hayes
I mean, I was definitely daddy's girl. My dad I describe as a comedian without a venue. Like, he was really funny and really up performer, you know?
Jason Bateman
And tell me about that time because about your dad calling you. You were in the summer program. I didn't know you were in ballet. I didn't know you took ballet.
Sean Hayes
I was. I was a ballerina, and my dad. I auditioned. I. I went away when I was 12 for North Carolina School of the Arts to dance, and I loved ballet, and I auditioned for the. For the dance program, and I didn't get in. And I was devastated. And my dad called the dean of the school, and he said, my daughter's gonna be devastated. What do I tell her? And he said, we loved her so much, and she almost got in because she's so much fun, but you just tell her she's an actress. And that's how it all started.
Parker Posey
No way.
Jason Bateman
Really?
Sean Hayes
Yeah. And so I went back to NCSA for acting, and it was there I did clowning. And maybe that's why I, you know, I made fun of mine back then, but I, you know, I've responded. Respect for mime, and I appreciate for sure, mime. And I did movement and dance and all of that. And.
Will Arnett
So where did you grow up? Where was your childhood?
Sean Hayes
Monroe, Louisiana. And so after.
Jason Bateman
Born in Baltimore, raised in Louisiana, and then.
Sean Hayes
That's right. We moved to Laurel when I was 12, so I was already, like, out the door.
Parker Posey
What was your first pro gig?
Sean Hayes
It was a short. I was a junior in college and was a short called First Love, Fatal Love for HBO about a woman and a young person in high school who had AIDS. And this was played by a woman named Alex O'Dare. I love and adore. She's Gabby Hoffman's older sister, and she's just brilliant and a great person and woman. And she wrote a book too, and she's just wonderful. And Steve Zahn. Steve Zahn had 10 lines in that. I had 10 lines.
Parker Posey
How old are you?
Sean Hayes
I was 20, I think.
Jason Bateman
Wow. Wow.
Parker Posey
And then what? And then you went. You did that? You graduated from. Where were you? And then you.
Sean Hayes
What about you? I want to hear, like, little stories. Like, when did that all click for you guys?
Parker Posey
No, but when? What. How'd you get to New York?
Will Arnett
You're in the chair.
Parker Posey
Yeah, you're in the chair.
Will Arnett
You're in the chair.
Parker Posey
So when you moved to New York.
Sean Hayes
So at NCSA, when I was there at 16, because I went for the summer programs and I just loved it. One of the teachers there named Molly and she. She had this big cow. She was a modern dance teacher and she had this big cow patty bun on her head and wore like, you know, cow patty bun leotards and character skirts all day long. She'd been wearing them for like 35 years. Right. And I love the modern dance teachers. She said, you know, you may want to try auditioning for SUNY Purchase for drama and. Because these schools accept different types of actors.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
And so I wanted to. So it was the. I auditioned for ncsa Juilliard and SUNY Purchase. And Purchase was a school I got into.
Jason Bateman
That's amazing.
Sean Hayes
And your roommate was sharing and I was going to. I was living in New York City the June 198990 of my junior year and freelancing with a manager. I know. Gosh, it's wild to think about how long I've been doing this.
Parker Posey
That was the year I moved to New York. 90.
Sean Hayes
Wow.
Parker Posey
Same year here.
Sean Hayes
Where did you live?
Parker Posey
Oh, everywhere.
Will Arnett
We'll be right back.
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Will Arnett
And now back to the show.
Jason Bateman
Parker, you've talked a lot about your you know, you described your family as like these fabulous southern characters that you emulate sometimes and stuff like what is your favorite things to go to when creating characters that emulate your family? Like a lot of my Midwestern stuff. Like I do that, too. Like our mid. We call pop instead of soda. You know, there's Portillo's, which is a very, you know, popular Midwestern chain. Obviously, the pizza.
Parker Posey
This is insane character work you're doing. Just as a quick aside, how do you anything about. How do you keep track of it all?
Jason Bateman
Just as a quick aside, where did you say anything above 50 degrees?
Parker Posey
Are you in character now? Who are we talking to? Who are we talking to right now?
Jason Bateman
I know. I got to chat. I got to. I got to go to 0.
Will Arnett
Soda. You call pop pop?
Jason Bateman
Yes, I get a pen. Cinnamon rolls with chili is very Midwestern. I put ketchup on steak. My mom used to say. Like my mom used to say, what.
Will Arnett
If you were to play somebody from the Northeast?
Jason Bateman
Who, me or Parker?
Parker Posey
What are you putting on your steak?
Will Arnett
No, you. What would you call?
Jason Bateman
I don't know, what they call seltzer, right? Or do they call it seltzer now you're in it. Don't they call soda?
Parker Posey
If you were in the south, you'd call everything a Coke.
Jason Bateman
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, Coke. Anyway, I didn't know if there was any.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, the south is a different. You know, I just. Yeah. Did you read plays? Did everyone read plays as a young actor?
Parker Posey
Always.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I didn't.
Sean Hayes
So is that. Well, you were already on that TV show Jason.
Will Arnett
Dumb. Dumb stuff.
Sean Hayes
How cute were you on that little show?
Will Arnett
I mean, pretty cute.
Sean Hayes
I was like, he's cute.
Parker Posey
He's really cute. He's very cute. He's still very cute.
Will Arnett
Very cute.
Parker Posey
Don't kid yourself.
Will Arnett
Let's go slow through this section.
Jason Bateman
Okay, so listen, then, Parker, I want to go through your hobbies, if it's okay to call them hobbies. Pottery, sewing, Ashtanga yoga, which I have no idea what that is. Ashtanga Ayurvedic medicine. I have no idea what that is. Like, what are all those things?
Parker Posey
So stupid.
Sean Hayes
Oh, my God.
Jason Bateman
What are those things? What's Ayurvedic? Is that it? Ayurvedic.
Sean Hayes
Okay. When I was doing. I did a movie called the Eye with Jessica Alba, and it was based on a Korean film. Yay, Jessica. It was based in a Korean film, a horror film about a woman who's blind and gets a chance to see. And so she. My sister Jessica, gets her eyes. Gets a surgery where she gets these eyes back, and they're the eyes of a murderer. And it was a great part because, as her sister. Because all I had to do is like, what's going on? You seem different, you know, And I was in New Mexico for like, three weeks, and I went to the Ayurvedic Institute. And I. And I sat in on some classes with ayurvedic teacher named Dr. Vasant Ladd, who is like one of these leading Ayurvedic people in the country. And if you know Andrew Weil, I think his name is.
Will Arnett
Sure. With the big gray beard.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, that guy. And so what do you know about it?
Will Arnett
Yeah, no, I know.
Sean Hayes
And I sat in on some classes at the Institute there. And I met this. I hung out at the Annapurna Cafe, which is like the Indian cafe, and found the yoga classes. But heard from this guy Prakash that there was an Ayurvedic school. And I should go because this Dr. Vasant lab is incredible. So I sat in on some classes there. It was really cool.
Will Arnett
What do they teach? What is Ayurvedic?
Sean Hayes
It's a science. It's a science of the body. And, like, we're born into these bodies that tell us what our psychology is and what our diet, how we should eat. And. And then the. There's three different. There's. It's pitta vata and kapha. So everyone falls into these different categories of. Of if. There's like. If, like I burn through energy, you know, like when I'm working, I'm like. I'm quick to grasp things, but I can easily forget them. And so it's like a way of your body, you're designed in a certain way. We're incarnated into these bodies to have this kind of experience. And with these bodies, they are teaching us how to be centered and aligned and open.
Jason Bateman
And there's certain programs that benefit each type of body.
Sean Hayes
That's right. Yeah. And certain foods. So there were people who had cancer who did the Ayurvedic. There's a. It's called pachakarma. I think that's interesting. It's really interesting. And through diet, they've healed themselves. And then they're like, okay, we're opening a restaurant in Hawaii and I'm going to serve Ayurvedic food because this is healing people more than my chemo did, you know? So when my dad had cancer, I just tried to get him to, you know, be more, to be healthier. And I saw someone sent me a docu, a doc called, I think Surviving Cancer, which had an interview of all these people who said, I'm not doing chemo. I'm just gonna see what happens with my diet when I change it. And anyway, it's kind of.
Jason Bateman
That is interesting.
Sean Hayes
I like all that stuff.
Parker Posey
I've met two people in my life who, in the last 20 years, who had different forms of cancer, who did similar things, who changed not just their diet, but their lifestyle, removed stress, and did all that stuff and were able to completely eliminate the cancer. This one guy had been a firefighter, and he developed lung cancer. True story. And he ended up being jb. He ended up being one of the coolest guys ever met. He quit his life. He moved to Carmel, and he became a Cadillac at Pebble.
Will Arnett
No way.
Parker Posey
And he's one of. Yeah, this guy Ryan, and he's one of the coolest people I've ever met. And he's like, I just. I wake up every morning and I walk. My wife does it. We make all this stuff and we. And I've changed my life, and I like being a caddy. I'm out here in the thing. He plays golf as well. He's like. And I've just.
Will Arnett
Zero stress.
Parker Posey
This is what I do now. Zero stress. He. He refused the chemo and he beat it. Now, I. Again, that's amazing.
Jason Bateman
That's amazing.
Parker Posey
I know. I don't know if it works, but he. He really did it. And he went full, full bore. He went. He leaned into it. And in addition to beating the cancer, and I think he was predisposed to be this way. He had an incredible energy about him. He was an incredibly empathetic, kind person, and he had an aura about him. Like, really pretty amazing.
Will Arnett
Or you can wake up every morning and eat a Pop Tart and stress out about your bottom line. Right, Sean?
Parker Posey
And answer emails like a.
Jason Bateman
Like a crazy.
Parker Posey
Like a gopher.
Jason Bateman
That's me. Parker, by the way, before you hit.
Parker Posey
Send, you get a reply from. I agree.
Sean Hayes
Do you Pop Tart shot?
Jason Bateman
I do. Sometimes I have a couple boxes in there.
Will Arnett
With a glass of milk.
Jason Bateman
With a glass of milk. But I have to cut down on the sugar just because it's not. I don't have to cut it all the way out. I just have to cut.
Parker Posey
How'd it go last night?
Jason Bateman
I didn't have a dessert last night for the first time in, like 10 years.
Will Arnett
Did you wake up feeling a little snappier?
Jason Bateman
I did, actually. I slept a little better. Yeah. Actually, yeah. Yeah.
Will Arnett
Now, Parker, when you were in Thailand, did you see a lot of the ayurvedic folks and some of your yoga practice, I bet, was. There was.
Sean Hayes
Oh, my God. I did it all. I was so excited.
Will Arnett
I bet that was a dream for you. You must have loved it.
Sean Hayes
It was a dream. I heard about this place called Kamalaya. Mike's lawyer's wife, she. I just struck up a conversation. We had all just landed there, like a week, you know, and she said, I'm going to this place called Camelaya. It's for women of a certain age. And, you know, I'm gonna go there for two weeks and get this all sorted out. And then I saw her two weeks later, and she was just like, oh, really?
Jason Bateman
What do you mean? Just exhausted?
Sean Hayes
No, transforming. She was like. It changed my life.
Jason Bateman
Oh, wow.
Sean Hayes
She got grounded. She was centered. She. She was like. It opened up a lot of healing. So this place and these. It's very. You know, there's an ayurvedic chef there, and it's a wellness center and has one of those plaques that Mike visited this place for White Lotus, you know, a digital detox. Please, no cell phones at the table and all of that. And there was a communal table. And, I mean, I. I got to stay there for six weeks.
Will Arnett
Oh, my God.
Jason Bateman
Wow.
Sean Hayes
And I did reiki. I did sound baths. I. I went to that liminal space you were talking about earlier in the show.
Will Arnett
Right.
Sean Hayes
The hypnotic where you're in between consciousness and you're in a theta state, I think it's called, too. And I had waking, like, moments and dreams, and I saw things, and it was like it was founded on a Monk's Cave. Like, 25 years ago, this couple, John and Karina, met each other and then reconnected and built this beautiful place. So it's the thing about Thailand that is so special is the people, like a rite of passage as a. I don't know how old is it. 13 year old is, or maybe in high school, is to live in a monastery and live off the kindness of others who are going to drop off food for you to eat.
Jason Bateman
Wow. Wow.
Sean Hayes
So they have. It's a lot of reciprocity. Okay. At Kamalaya, there was a doctor named Dr. Cern. I had this muumu caftan dress on with dogs on it. And so she knew that I love dogs, and so she told me about her. She showed me pictures of her dog, kk. KK means crooked and Thai. And KK had crooked eyes in his little, like, you know, a mix, kind of a corgi mix, but a little stockier.
Parker Posey
Sure.
Sean Hayes
And the dog, she showed me these pictures of KK with, like, carrying a dead leaf, like a leaf or a branch in his mouth, her mouth, even KK Knows to bring offerings when she wants something. So she would make offerings of like a leaf or something. She'd bring it to the door for food at the back door. Isn't that the best?
Jason Bateman
And then. And then when you got back to the United. When you got back to the United States, you're like, oh, this is the best country in the world. So listen.
Will Arnett
Van Nuys.
Jason Bateman
No, wait.
Sean Hayes
They're so kind. Like. Like it's so. There's so coincident with you and it's just so. Yeah. Anyway, I could tell you guys kind of spaced out and checked out.
Parker Posey
No, we were listening.
Jason Bateman
No, I love it.
Parker Posey
We were listening.
Jason Bateman
We were listening. I love that.
Will Arnett
Party girl.
Jason Bateman
No, Dazed and Confused. Party girl. You were Queen of the Indies. All the Waiting for Guffin. Best in Show, White Lotus. You killed in that show. You have remind me the name of the movie that's coming out. It's called Wild Horse. Wild Horse Nine. Yes. And really quick before. Do you remember when I came to your apartment in New York when you were practicing mandolin for Mighty Wind for Christopher Guest?
Sean Hayes
That's right.
Parker Posey
Yes.
Jason Bateman
And I sat there in your apartment with you and you're like, I want to see what it's like to be in a Christopher Guest movie. And you showed me the outline of Best in Show or no of a Mighty Wind. And I was like, oh, really? So you just make all this stuff up? Like you completely improvise. It's really cool. And then you were showing me the song that you were making up with the mandolin and I just thought that was fascinating to me.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, it's so fun. I think I kind of got what it was to learn an instrument at the end there. Like I could start jamming with songs and then get that kind of space. Yeah, that was so cool. I'm so glad I got to do that.
Will Arnett
Do you remember our Oscar winning film we did together called the Sweetest Thing?
Sean Hayes
Yes.
Will Arnett
I mean, was that not you just.
Sean Hayes
I know what you mean.
Will Arnett
The most fulfilling.
Jason Bateman
Right?
Sean Hayes
We killed it.
Will Arnett
I was so excited to be working with you.
Sean Hayes
Will you stay? I really enjoyed hanging out with you guys. You know, you do these things and then you don't really feel like you're hanging out and.
Will Arnett
Well, we're gonna come over to the Chateau right now. We're gonna have lunch, we're gonna speed over.
Sean Hayes
I have something at 2:30 and that's it.
Jason Bateman
Parker, we love you very much.
Sean Hayes
Love you guys.
Jason Bateman
This is great. And I hope you win. I hope you win for White Lotus because you deserve it.
Will Arnett
Yes, please.
Sean Hayes
Thank you. I just hope I'm nominated.
Will Arnett
Yes.
Sean Hayes
Honored to be nominated. And I hope that happens. So thank you for sending out that Hollywood vibe. I love it.
Jason Bateman
Yes.
Will Arnett
You get our votes.
Sean Hayes
Thank you, guys.
Jason Bateman
Bye, Heidi. Love you.
Parker Posey
Thank you, Parker Posey.
Sean Hayes
Love you guys. Thank you.
Will Arnett
Bye. Bye. Bye.
Jason Bateman
Oh, then she covers up. Look at that.
Will Arnett
Look at that. She knows what she's doing.
Sean Hayes
I know what I'm doing.
Jason Bateman
Love her.
Parker Posey
Wow. Yeah. Really?
Jason Bateman
That Parker, so funny.
Will Arnett
She's an original.
Jason Bateman
Yes.
Will Arnett
Oh, it's just consistently exciting to watch.
Jason Bateman
She was on Will and Grace a lot. Many episodes of Will and Grace.
Will Arnett
Oh, really? Why didn't we talk about that?
Parker Posey
Yeah. What happened to that?
Jason Bateman
I didn't know. I didn't know whether to be like, hey, remember when you were in Will and Grace? Yeah. I didn't have any question about it.
Will Arnett
It didn't stop me.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. About what did stop me.
Will Arnett
While we did Sweetest sing together.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, I know, but. Yeah, I mean, she was. She's always been so kind. Oh, really? Isn't she hilarious?
Parker Posey
Yeah, she's amazing.
Jason Bateman
She's great.
Parker Posey
She's as advertised. She delivers.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. And she's. I don't know about you guys. I love all that kind of talk about, like, all that healing stuff and the ivoristic or whatever it's called.
Will Arnett
That's what it was. Ivaristic. Good for you.
Jason Bateman
Or something.
Will Arnett
Ayurvedic.
Jason Bateman
Ayurvedic. That's what it is. Ayurvedic. I want to learn more about that.
Parker Posey
That.
Will Arnett
No, you don't.
Parker Posey
We want you to learn more.
Jason Bateman
I do, actually. I actually do want to learn more about.
Will Arnett
Why don't you go to Thailand for six weeks and go to the. That wellness center and get yourself flushed out?
Parker Posey
Yeah, why don't you go. He won't even go to the 405. What do you think? He's going to break some of the.
Will Arnett
Impacted bowels you've got right out.
Parker Posey
Can you imagine? He had to go to a place that didn't have access to Jeopardy. Every night he'd be.
Jason Bateman
Or Wheel of Fortune.
Parker Posey
Wheel of Fortune. Never happened.
Jason Bateman
No, I'm not going to Thailand. No.
Will Arnett
Yeah, I appreciate these almonds, but do you have any hickory almonds?
Jason Bateman
Absolutely. How about when she stopped for that butterfly? I love that. And you know a butterfly rhymes with.
Will Arnett
Here they come. Here it comes.
Jason Bateman
Butterfly.
Will Arnett
What?
Parker Posey
No, that's not even a thing, man.
Jason Bateman
Rhymes with butterfly.
Will Arnett
No, keep working.
Parker Posey
You can just make.
Will Arnett
Will and I. Will and I are taught. We'll talk for a while and do some Google searching, come up with a buy. Will, what's going on with your mic stand?
Parker Posey
I don't know, man.
Will Arnett
Leave it alone. Is there anyone in the office with you, Will?
Parker Posey
Yeah, there are three people here. Yeah? Yeah.
Will Arnett
What are they doing? Counting paperclips.
Parker Posey
They're working, man. They're working away. We got. We got Twisted Metal season two coming out this summer on Peacock.
Jason Bateman
Oh, look at that.
Will Arnett
Give it a plug.
Parker Posey
Twisted Metal. Well, you asked.
Will Arnett
This is a behind the scenes tour of Hard Rock tour.
Parker Posey
Super Team Canada. We got Super Team Canada coming out. That's already out. That's an animated show. Check it out. It's fantastic. We also have our new doc that just got released. Sexiest man in Winnipeg. Listen, we got a lot of things going on.
Will Arnett
Sure, sure, sure, sure. Yeah. So Sexiest man in Winnipeg. That's about a doctor who just got out of prison.
Parker Posey
Do you want to know? The truth is, it's about a guy who was a sport.
Will Arnett
Anytime you're ready, Sean.
Jason Bateman
I just.
Sean Hayes
I can't find.
Will Arnett
You can't come up with a buy?
Jason Bateman
I had a whole list. Oh.
Parker Posey
It's the Sexiest man in Winnipeg. And it's about a guy who's a sports reporter who started robbing banks. True story.
Jason Bateman
Okay, well, it sounds like a lot of stories going on. It sounds like you're taking one and another one and you're combining them.
Parker Posey
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Sean Hayes
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SmartLess Episode Summary: "Parker Posey" | Release Date: June 2, 2025
Introduction In this engaging episode of SmartLess, hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett welcome esteemed actress Parker Posey. Known as the "Indie Queen," Posey brings a wealth of experience and captivating stories from her illustrious career in independent cinema. The conversation delves into Posey's personal journey, her craft, and insightful reflections on the entertainment industry.
Revealing the Mystery Guest The episode kicks off with the hosts playfully announcing the arrival of Parker Posey. The dynamic between Jason, Sean, and Will sets a warm and humorous tone, immediately making listeners feel at ease.
Early Life and Career Beginnings Posey shares anecdotes from her childhood, highlighting her upbringing in Monroe, Louisiana, and her early aspirations in ballet, which eventually led her to acting.
Transition from Ballet to Acting Posey recounts a pivotal moment when her father’s encouragement steered her from ballet to acting, a decision that shaped her future in the performing arts.
Navigating the Indie Film Scene The discussion shifts to Posey's experiences within the independent film movement of the 1990s. She reflects on the authenticity and creative freedom that indie films offered, contrasting it with the studio system's constraints.
Personal Growth and Wellness Posey opens up about her journey towards personal growth, including her exploration of Ayurvedic practices and wellness retreats in Thailand. She emphasizes the importance of mental and physical well-being.
Challenges and Resilience The conversation delves into the challenges Posey faced in her career and personal life, including dealing with grief and the evolving landscape of the entertainment industry. She shares her resilience and unwavering passion for storytelling.
Creative Process and Storytelling Posey discusses her creative process, emphasizing authenticity and the importance of genuine storytelling. She highlights her work with Christopher Guest and her involvement in projects like Best in Show and Mighty Wind.
Reflections on Fame and Success Later in the episode, Posey reflects on her status as a celebrated actress, the dynamics of fame, and the balance between personal fulfillment and industry expectations.
Community and Connections The hosts and Posey reminisce about their shared experiences, building a sense of camaraderie and mutual respect. They discuss the importance of community in their professional and personal lives.
Notable Quotes
Conclusion The episode concludes with heartfelt exchanges and well-wishes among the hosts and Posey. They celebrate Posey's contributions to the film industry and express hope for her continued success, particularly in relation to her role in White Lotus.
Final Thoughts This episode of SmartLess offers an intimate glimpse into Parker Posey's life and career, enriched by the hosts' humor and genuine appreciation. Listeners gain valuable insights into Posey's artistic journey, personal growth, and the enduring power of authentic storytelling.
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Overall Flow and Engagement The natural and organic flow of conversation, punctuated by laughter and meaningful exchanges, makes this episode both entertaining and enlightening. The hosts' ability to navigate between playful banter and deep, introspective dialogue ensures that listeners remain engaged and connected throughout.
Conclusion Whether you're a long-time fan of Parker Posey or new to her work, this episode of SmartLess provides a comprehensive and heartfelt exploration of her life, career, and philosophies. It's a testament to the show's ability to create thoughtful dialogue infused with authentic humor and genuine connection.