"RE-RELEASE: Kaley Cuoco"

Summary

SmartLess Podcast: "RE-RELEASE: Kaley Cuoco"

Episode Date: August 13, 2026
Hosts: Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett
Guest: Kaley Cuoco

Episode Overview

This episode features a lively and heartfelt conversation with actress Kaley Cuoco, best known for her roles in "The Big Bang Theory" and "The Flight Attendant." The discussion is warm, humorous, and candid, exploring Kaley's life story, career milestones, brushes with danger, competitive streak, and her latest project, "Based on a True Story." The hosts also riff on everything from golf and ice cream to stage mishaps and family support. Kaley’s infectious energy is on full display as she shares both laughs and thoughtful insights.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Host Banter and Personal Updates

• Will’s Birthday & Running Jokes

  • The episode opens with Sean and Jason singing happy birthday to Will (02:04). Will laments his birthday being on May 4th (“May the fourth be with you”), poking fun at Star Wars overshadowing his big day (02:18).

• Tony Award Nomination for Sean

  • The trio congratulates Sean Hayes for his Tony nomination and discuss the show "Good Night, Oscar" (03:06).
  • Will quizzes the group on Tony Awards' origin: “Antoinette Perry Award” (03:45).

• On Reading Scripts & Health Mishaps

  • Light-hearted ribbing about not reading scripts/texts and Sean’s recent eye surgery (04:32–05:12).
  • Sean shares his tendency to faint around medical procedures (vasovagal), prompting laughter and commiseration (05:55–06:41).

• Golf Frustrations

  • Jason’s recent grumpy mood after a bad golf game is dissected, with Will and Sean teasing him about eating too little and venting frustrations in unhealthy ways (08:45–11:12).
  • Joke about Jason’s minimalist snack choices: "He ate a cup of sliced apples. That’s it. That’s not enough." – Will Arnett (10:15).

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[12:00] Kayley Cuoco Joins: Sunshine Wrapped in Skin

Introduction

• Will presents Kaley as "pure sunlight wrapped in skin" (12:00) and details her many talents and achievements, including tennis, horseback riding, new motherhood, and California roots.

Horseback Riding Accident and Resilience

• [12:55–18:33] Kaley recounts her near-catastrophic horse accident:

  • Riding accident during early "Big Bang" years; horse fell, causing a compound fracture (bone protruding from her leg).
  • Had to sign a waiver before surgery in case leg couldn’t be saved (15:24).
  • Miraculously returned to work within two weeks with a boot (17:39).
  • Kaley still has metal pins in her leg; opts to keep them in (18:17).

  “The fall didn’t hurt me. He ended up stepping on me... I heard all the cracking, crunching... it wasn’t just 400 leaves. It was my bones.” – Kaley Cuoco (16:55)

Career Beginnings and Competitive Nature

• From Tennis Prodigy to Actress

  • Kaley played tennis competitively in her youth and nearly pursued it professionally, but chose acting at age 16 (26:12–26:59).
  • Stopped playing for years, recently returned to doubles for fun during COVID (27:18).

  "When you’re competitive in any sport, the fun kind of leaves... to play for fun was not something I wanted to do." – Kaley Cuoco (27:08)

• Game Night Fights

  • Kaley and partner Tom Pelphrey love games, but her competitive streak can be too intense for friends (28:49):
    • “Game night is not... No one wants to let me participate in game night because I don’t make it fun for anybody.” – Kaley Cuoco

Relationship & Motherhood

• Meeting Tom Pelphrey

  • Met at the "Ozark" wrap party, set up by their shared manager (29:48–31:48).
  • Instant chemistry: “The world kind of stopped.” (31:37)
  • Became parents quickly: “We got pregnant two months in, we have a baby. Boom, boom, boom.” (32:04)

• New Mom Life

  • Daughter Matilda born five weeks before the episode taping (32:12–32:19).
  • Open about needing help—family and in-laws—while staying grateful (32:46–33:58).
  • Considering more children (34:00).

"The Big Bang Theory" Walk Down Memory Lane

• Show's End

  • Kaley and cast believed a 13th season would happen, but Jim Parsons’ exit ended the show after 12 (34:31).

    "Jim Parsons really wanted to be done... We were all shocked." – Kaley Cuoco (35:19)

  • Cherishes live audience taping and her father’s tradition of attending every show (35:49–36:33).

    “My dad never missed a tape. He was in the audience every week… Every show night for 12 years.” – Kaley Cuoco (36:08–36:33)

• Pilots and Fame

  • She was the third actress cast in her role, replacing earlier pilots (47:16).
  • Chuck Lorre’s persistence got the show made after several pilots (48:02–48:47).
  • Kaley found the transition to fame gradual after years in the business (49:02):

    "I was such... on a slow, like, uphill climb... I never felt that ‘overnight fame’ moment." – Kaley Cuoco (49:02)

Family Support and Childhood

• Parents (Lane and Gary): not showbiz; dad was a paramedic/firefighter turned realtor, mom a stay-at-home parent (40:39).
• Kaley's sister: also an actor, appeared on The Voice (41:08–41:12).
• Hated school, got GED with full parental support (39:33–39:51).

Fun Facts

• Kaley starred in Barbie and Oscar Mayer commercials as a kid (38:47–39:01).
• Recently re-learned CPR due to new baby (41:20).

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[50:42] New Show: "Based on a True Story"

Premise & Origin:

• Kaley stars alongside Chris Messina in a dark comedy about a realtor obsessed with true crime who gets entangled with a possible serial killer (51:29–53:22).
• Show pitched as “quirky” and "insane," blending Kaley's passion for tennis, crime, and LA life (52:32).
• Kaley was pregnant during filming; wrote the pregnancy into the character (54:24–55:13):

  “I was like, ‘Guys, what if this character was pregnant?’... I was five months when we started. We shot three weeks before I gave birth.” – Kaley Cuoco (54:24)

Chemistry & Experience:

• Praises Chris Messina, the cast, and crew for their chemistry and joy on set (56:03).
• Excited about filming a potential second season in LA with her daughter visiting set (56:14–56:29):

  “I would do a second season in a heartbeat. It was one of the most fun experiences I have ever... I really mean that.” – Kaley Cuoco (56:29)

Release Details:

• Streams on Peacock, June 8th (53:27 & 57:30).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "You're lucky you're not born on 420... The kids like to smoke their weed." – Sean Hayes, teasing Will Arnett (02:32)
• “I need to start, like, really training or something.” – Jason Bateman, on golf-induced self-flagellation (09:28)
• “It’s always nice to talk about bones coming out of bodies...” – Jason Bateman (16:10)
• “We're not going to let you get a word in edgewise. Don't worry about it.” – Jason Bateman, joking with Kaley (13:49)
• “My dad never missed a tape. He was in the audience every week.” – Kaley Cuoco (36:08)
• “Game night is not... No one wants to let me participate in game night because I don’t make it fun for anybody.” – Kaley Cuoco (28:51)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:04 – Happy Birthday, Will! / Opening banter
• 03:06 – Celebrating Sean’s Tony nomination
• 04:32 – Jokes about reading scripts, health updates
• 08:45 – Jason’s golf rage and eating habits
• 12:00 – Introduction of Kaley Cuoco
• 12:55–18:33 – Kaley’s horse accident and recovery
• 26:12–27:01 – Tennis ambitions and transition to acting
• 29:48–32:19 – Meeting Tom Pelphrey and motherhood
• 34:31–36:33 – Ending "The Big Bang Theory"
• 41:20 – Learning CPR for her newborn
• 50:42–57:30 – “Based on a True Story” and working while pregnant
• 59:24–59:46 – Jerry Lewis invented playback
• 61:04 – Kayley as Jason's golf sports psychologist
• 61:18 – Sean’s bowling segue and episode wrap

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Themes and Takeaways

• Resilience & Gratitude: Kaley’s honesty about setbacks, family, and support highlights her grounded personality.
• Competitive, But Lighthearted: Whether in sports, games, or showbiz, she’s fiercely competitive—but always self-deprecating and warm.
• Balancing Work and Life: Open about the role of help in motherhood, and the importance of community and teamwork both at home and on set.
• Embracing New Challenges: Kaley’s ability to pivot (from sports to acting, or incorporating pregnancy into a role) shows adaptability and courage.
• Chemistry is Key: The hosts and Kaley agree that good chemistry is about kindness and normalcy, not mystery.

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Listen for...

• Behind the scenes "Big Bang Theory" stories
• Details about “Based on a True Story” and working while pregnant
• Competitive game night confessions!
• Family anecdotes and childhood career memories
• Hosts’ hilarious sidebar banter—golf, diets, bits, and more

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For more info:
"Based on a True Story" streams from June 8 on Peacock.
Catch more "SmartLess" episodes on Apple Podcasts or SiriusXM Podcasts+.

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Kaley Cuoco: “Sunshine (and Spirit) Wrapped in Skin” (62:54)

“She has great energy, great vibe… You want to hang out with her, immediately...” – Jason Bateman (63:28)

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Transcript

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[B]

Now I can do anything. I like my friends. I like my podcast. I like my Jason. I like my Sean. I like my smart list. I like everybody. Let's go. It's an all new smart list. Smart, Smart, Smart. Less.

[A]

First of all though, I would just like to say really fast. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you.

[C]

Oh, Will.

[A]

Happy birthday dear Will Arnett.

[C]

Oh my gosh.

[A]

Happy birthday to you. And it's on May the fourth be with you.

[B]

I know this which is one of my biggest regrets that somebody came up

[A]

with that I love. Are you kidding?

[C]

It's first I first bumps me up.

[B]

No, because it just. It's just completely, you know taken my birth a hostage forever.

[A]

Well, not for me.

[B]

It's.

[C]

You're lucky you're not born on the on 420. Right? Isn't that the. With all the. The kids like to smoke their weed on the 420, huh?

[B]

Hey man, I've been. I've been looking for ways for you to sound older.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think we just found it. You know what I mean?

[C]

How about this? Does this sound.

[A]

How about it's also.

[B]

But but but Jason, for you and me it's also more importantly it's Cinco de Quatro.

[C]

Cinco de Quatro. Very big day in the people that know about arrested in the Arrest, Development, Canon.

[B]

Sean.

[C]

So thank you, Sean. Thank you for following the show. Speaking of Sean, let's take a moment to celebrate Sean's Tony Award nomination. Yeah, don't wave it away. It's a big deal.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

And very well deserved. Good Lord. Is that so good? Again, just to repeat, anybody going through the tri state area, stop in New York City. It's a fun town. And there's a great show called the Theater.

[B]

What's the theater?

[C]

Good night. Oscar at the Belasco Theater. Some people call it Tabasco, but that's just so they can remember it.

[B]

Jason, do you know what the Tony Awards are short for? Do you know what the actual name of the award is?

[C]

Anthony's Closed.

[B]

No, Sean, you know, right.

[A]

Antoinette.

[B]

Antoinette Perry Award.

[C]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

You know, listener, are you as shocked as me how smart Will every once in a while is? I am. You'd also be shocked to know these actually 67 today.

[A]

He does have a. You do have like an endless well of just knowledge and stuff.

[B]

I got a lot of time. I got a lot of time on my hands.

[A]

Clearly.

[B]

Jason. I said to Jason yesterday, I said, hey, do you want to read this thing that I just wrote? And he said, please don't. Please don't.

[C]

No, he said. He said, oh, I'm going to send you that script. I said, please don't. He says, what do you mean? I go, I don't. I don't even read my own texts. He's like, well, thank you for your honesty. I just thought, you know, it's just a fun script. I said, there's nothing fun about reading.

[B]

He did say that.

[C]

Yeah. My parents really screwed me. Now I'm watching Sean there itch his eye. Sean just had what we call it ocular surgery.

[A]

Laser surgery.

[B]

We don't call it that. But he had a.

[A]

And I can't read. I'm not supposed to read.

[B]

He's not supposed to read. And I said, Sean said. Sean turned to the doctor, said, you can't read. And Sean said, boy, do I have some good news for you. But he does have a detached retina. So Sean's got a partially detached retina. Jason's got a detached personality. So we. We have. Hey, hey. O. Detached less. But, but, but Sean, you're still doing seven shows this week after laser surge.

[A]

Yeah, on my eye. I'm not supposed to read or dart my eye around a lot.

[C]

And that was. That was the direction from the director or from the. The doctor said, don't dart your eyes.

[B]

Wait, his not and the doctor, you

[A]

know, and I said to both of you guys, I'm slowly turning into my mother. I'm going to lose my eye.

[C]

I mean, it's. Let's. You better knock on wood. Now, your mom lost her eye from cancer, you said. Not, not from a detached retina thing.

[A]

She was two years old.

[C]

Yeah, she was two years old.

[A]

She was two years old when she lost her eye. Yeah.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Now we're still looking for it. So wait. And so I went in and I, I get vasovagal. Do you guys get that?

[B]

Hey, man, we're trying to keep it

[C]

clean over here, dude.

[B]

What do you.

[A]

It's when you get nauseous and faint from, like, you know, needles or poking at your eyeballs.

[C]

That happened to me once.

[A]

Oh, I get it all the time.

[C]

Once. So you just go out if you get nervous about.

[A]

I am like, I have to lay down. I need a fan. I need coolness. I'm going to throw up. I'm going to.

[B]

We all feel better with a fan around, let's be honest. Hey,

[C]

what about doing, doing the show? Do you ever feel it coming on just with nerves for the show?

[A]

No, no, that's different. This is all doctor Health related stuff. Like if I'm in, I, I passed out getting contact lenses once. I, I passed out like soft. I, I tried like 10 years ago to get Botox and I passed out.

[C]

But you're trying to get, in fairness, you were trying to get it directly from the cow. Right?

[B]

Sean, would have been amazing is if you passed out going in for Botox and you fell and cut yourself and then you had to get stitches and then you passed out while trying to get stitches from the passing end up getting.

[A]

I do, I get it so bad. You guys don't get that?

[B]

No, man.

[C]

It just occurred to me. We're doing a full talk show. We do a talk show and right now we're doing the Regis and Kathie Lee patter beforehand, right?

[A]

What are you talking about?

[C]

Well, I used to watch that. Like, how do they come up with this stuff? Regis just comes in with his coffee, talks about his weekend, and it, it covers as, as full national entertainment for 20 minutes.

[A]

I could talk about 9,000 things for an hour.

[C]

I, I don't, I don't think people are interested. Right. I mean, what are we, what are we doing?

[B]

What Jason's trying to say is he's not interested in your life.

[C]

I'm not interested in him.

[B]

He's not interested in himself. Let's just say this to you. We are going to get. We are going to get somebody interesting. But I do want to say Jason was so grumpy yesterday.

[C]

Oh, my God, I was embarrassed.

[B]

Jason and I played golf the last three days and then yesterday we. None of us played particularly well. Tuesday we got to play with. With football great legend Gareth Bale, who is just an absolute.

[C]

Soccer for the Americans.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, just an absolute.

[A]

You had to be like, freaking.

[C]

This guy's a real person.

[B]

I was. God, he's unreal, right?

[C]

Yeah. You're a little nervous. It was like you were playing with Charlize Theron.

[B]

I was. So, yeah. Hey, man,

[A]

how does it come about you guys just play golf with all these people? They just randomly show up?

[C]

We host a talk show, bro.

[A]

Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying, like, how do you organize that?

[C]

Well, we met this guy up at some celeb golf tournament and then that's what happens. Hey, let's play go numbers. You know, he's a good guy.

[B]

Yeah, we, we do. We swap numbers. We go like, hey, man, we want to play golf with you, Gareth Bailey.

[A]

So if Charlize wanted to play golf, you would let her play golf?

[B]

I'm not answering this. Listen, I'm plead now. I'm now pleading the fifth.

[C]

So anyway, I was a. I was a real.

[B]

So he was, he was a grump. He. He sped out of the parking lot and to the point that 30 seconds after he left, I had to call and go, hey, man, are you okay?

[D]

Why?

[A]

Why?

[C]

He did call me as I was getting out of the parking lot. I was like, oh, no, maybe I've pissed him off because I didn't really say goodbye to anybody. I just had to get out of there before I embarrassed myself by like going into some sort of. I played a bad golf round rage.

[B]

No, but here's, here's what happened. He went like this. I was putting my stuff in the back of my car and his window, and then as he's putting it up and his car, he's now in drive. He looks over. I'm not exaggerating. He goes like this.

[A]

Bye, Will.

[B]

Zip up the window and peel that. And I was like, fuck.

[A]

He won't wait. All because you played a bad game.

[C]

Yeah, I play too much to play that badly. And I just need to be more disciplined and I need to actually really, if I'm going to be upset about not playing well, I need to have a reason. In other words, I need to start, like, really training or something.

[B]

Jay. Jay. I thought about it. I thought about this, and this is not a joke. We joke about this a lot. We're gonna get to your guests. I feel badly for them, but I just wanna say this.

[C]

You.

[B]

Yesterday, and he does this a lot. Did this the last two days. We're going to. Everybody's like, hey, do you want a little bit of food? They got a little snack shack, and I get like a. You know, a little chicken salad, maybe a thing. And Jason, last two days, goes, yeah, just get me a cup of sliced apples. That's all he had? No. And I'm like, he's starving to death. That's what's going on.

[C]

He's literally. But I still can't shake these five or ten pounds, dude.

[B]

Jason. I told Jason if he loses ten pounds, I'm taking him to the hospital.

[A]

Yeah, you don't need to lose any more weight, Sean.

[B]

He ate a cup of sliced apples. That's it. I'm like, that's not enough.

[C]

When you have nuts on top of

[A]

them, don't you get tired during the day from not eating?

[B]

Yes, tired.

[C]

I came home. You know what I did? Well, here's the sickness. I came home, I saw Amanda in the kitchen. She's like, hi. What's wrong? I go, nothing. I'm a disaster. I'm embarrassed because I'm in a bad mood because of golf. She goes, really? I go, yeah. She goes, you want to talk about it? I said, you don't want any part of me. I'm going to the gym. So I put on my gym clothes and I went and I ran on the elliptical for an hour and then sweated out in the hot box for an hour.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

So two hours. I just had to get into a deep sweat to get all the rage out of me.

[B]

Yeah. By the way, what you don't hear in there is any nutrition going in.

[A]

So I know. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Blood sugar is plummeting.

[A]

That's what your body is, like, screaming at you for.

[C]

Like, up. Both of you.

[A]

Just.

[B]

See, there we go.

[C]

You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

[B]

Let's get to your guest, huh?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Unless you got some other.

[C]

Right. Yes. No, I do. I want to get to the. Great. But want to remind anybody, if you're interested in what you're hearing, we have actual. Actual pictures of us doing this, too. Moving pictures there on Max Smartless on the road, the doc that me, Will, and Sean are enjoying, but we're a little biased. We're in it, but if you're interested, it's on Max. There are our little docu series called,

[B]

you know, May 23rd on Max was the day that. That's right.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah. And they all can get all that same.

[A]

And you can get all six episodes at the same time.

[C]

Yeah. If you're. If you're.

[A]

Yeah, look at that.

[C]

Binger. Binge away.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

All right, all right, all right.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

My guest, fellas, listeners. Do you like funny people?

[B]

Sure do.

[C]

Talented people, kind people. What if you managed to pack that into one woman, add two scoops of charm and a couple conversation skills, and what do you get? You get our next guest, gang. She's an American actress starring new show, which I'm very lucky enough to be a producer on. She's a new mom, an ex tennis player and horseback rider. She's a native Californian, a proud Sagittarius, and the daughter of Lane and Gary. Please welcome pure sunlight wrapped in skin, Ms. Kaylee Cuoco.

[A]

Look at her go. Look at her.

[C]

Cuoco. Have you ever been called sunshine wrapped in skin?

[D]

No, I was. That was so sweet. That was a first. I was literally very much enjoying. Enjoying your guys's car. I was trying to hold my hand over my mouth because I was dying laughing.

[A]

You're the only one.

[D]

Yeah. No, Sean, at your disorder, which I think I have. The fainting disorder. Yes.

[C]

Well, then that. Then that gets me into my first question during my deep research because I'm a crack journalist. You had a horse riding accident where you almost lost your leg. I'm not exposing anything big here. This was already out. Oh, yeah. How did you deal with.

[B]

You're never exposing anything big. Don't worry.

[C]

So, hey, Will, that sounds like a sexual insult.

[B]

No, that's good.

[C]

Now I'm gonna let you correct that for a second because it really sounded.

[B]

No, I just. I wanted to interrupt and just say, hi, Kaylee, how are you?

[A]

Hi, Kaylee.

[B]

I feel like we've only met once before at something that you were hosting. You were backstage and you were, like, in a complete blackout. It seemed like. Not drug drinker. No, you were. Yeah. You had to do a bunch of stuff.

[C]

She's probably focused. She's professional.

[D]

I've never been focused in my life. That is shocking. But it's so. I'm glad to be here. I'm nervous, you guys. This is like one of the best podcasts, and my sister, it's her favorite one, and she's like, if you mess this up, come on.

[A]

Well, there's nothing to mess it up.

[B]

There's nothing to mess up. This is the best it gets.

[C]

We're not going to let you get a word in edgewise. Don't worry about it.

[B]

Yeah, Jason's got a big question for you, so settle in. I hope you packed a lunch. So.

[C]

So. So you're riding a horse. You're riding a horse. You're jumping over gates and going around barrels and whatever the. You do. And then you get. And then. And then, then the horse falls or you fall. The horse falls on you, Lands on the leg. Is stuck on the leg. Broken the leg. Did you ask the horse to get off? Did the horse get off immediately?

[A]

Wait, how long ago was this?

[D]

This was a while ago. This was, let's see, it was beginning of Big Bang. And we've been probably, I don't know, 12, 13 years ago.

[C]

Oh, my God. Okay, so, guys, she almost lost her legs.

[B]

I once asked a horse to get off during a Big Bang.

[C]

It's a family show, Will.

[A]

So it's his birthday. He's on fire.

[C]

You really almost lost your leg on this? And I wish.

[D]

Well, yeah, no, it was a bad accident. It was a very bad accident. And yeah, he. I had fallen. The fall didn't hurt me. He ended up stepping on me. And I remember. I know. And the crazy part is Sean just fainted.

[C]

Shawn's down and he can't dart his

[D]

eyes, so he's just screwed.

[B]

Scotty.

[C]

Scotty, get the paddles.

[D]

So he said, don't faint.

[B]

Kaylee, how old were you when this happened?

[D]

I was. My God. I can't.

[C]

Early 20s.

[D]

I was probably 22. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Okay, so. So now. But you had to sign something before surgery that gives the doctor permission that once they get in there and they see that maybe we might not be able to save the leg, that you won't sue them if you wake up without the leg.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

It was that serious.

[D]

It was really serious. So I had to go under. I had to sign something. Yes, exactly. Right. And luckily I came out and I was.

[C]

So. But wait, talk to. Do you remember? You probably don't remember because you were so under anesthesia, but when you first woke up was your first look down to see if was still there. You remember that?

[D]

Yes, totally. Oh, yeah, No, I have a very.

[A]

Yeah. How. How. What are we talking about? We're talking about it separated from your body.

[D]

Like, I had a. I had a compound fracture. So for those who don't know, it's the bone that comes out of your leg.

[A]

Wait, where, Where, Where. Which bone?

[B]

Oh, that's what I.

[D]

My tibia fibulus. It was near my ankle and my knee.

[B]

My bones always coming out.

[C]

This is family.

[A]

Off. It's caught with his bone out.

[D]

Yeah. No, Right. So you had to.

[B]

That's what it's called. Okay, sorry. I'm going to have to update my.

[C]

That was almost my first spit take in 100.

[B]

I'm going to have to update my. My dating profile.

[C]

That's what it's called.

[D]

So I woke up, and it.

[C]

You're creating a compound fracture.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Okay, so wait, don't come in here. I've got a compound fracture.

[A]

So wait, so your bone is sticking out of your. The top part of your thigh or your bottom part of your knee?

[D]

No, no, no, no. Ankle, ankle, knee. Okay, so there was two. Yeah. And so it just was a horrible, horrible, horrible break. And I had been.

[C]

Why didn't you say it didn't hurt?

[D]

No, it. Oh, no, it.

[C]

It did hurt.

[D]

Oh, my God. I was gonna say when I fell, the fall didn't break my leg. My fall wasn't a big deal. He stepped on me, and I remember clear as day, because it takes a second when something is that bad. I was like, did I. Did I just fall on a whole, like, thing of leaves? Because I heard all the cracking, crunching. Yeah. So I was like, are there leaves? And it took me, like, five or 10 seconds to actually realize it wasn't just 400 leaves. It was my bones. Yeah.

[A]

So what, do you have pins and rods in there now?

[D]

I do. There's four.

[C]

Do you set off metal detectors?

[D]

No. I always thought I would, but it never happened.

[B]

Oh, my God. What was the recovery like for that?

[D]

Like, just, you know, what's crazy? So I was shooting Big Bang. It was on a Friday after work, and so I was supposed to go to work on Monday.

[C]

They put you behind the bar, right? They gave you, like, a bar job?

[D]

Yes. I'm like, I have to call Chuck Lorre and tell him right now that the great Chuck Lori just. Yes, the great Chuck Lori. But you don't want to make that call. And so they literally didn't think I would, like, walk for three months. They thought I would not walk for three months. I was walking in a week with a boot. I was back to work in two weeks. It was, like, miraculous.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, they always say the worst, and then I ended up being okay. But they were very.

[A]

So wait, but you still now have. Because listening to the story, I'm on pins and needles. So you actually have pins in There.

[C]

For real?

[D]

Yes, I do.

[C]

They didn't take those out? They're not planning on taking those out?

[D]

No. I went back in years later and I was like, is this bad to have in there? And they said, honestly, the surgery would be such a pain for you, like if they're not bothered and you leave it. So I'm. I know.

[A]

So can you run and jump and do anything? Oh, yeah.

[C]

Do you have fun scars on the. On the bottom of your leg?

[D]

Yeah, I do.

[C]

That's cool.

[D]

I got some good scars.

[C]

I don't have any good scars. You guys have any good scars?

[A]

No, I do.

[D]

Makes you feel like a badass.

[A]

I fell off the bunk bed when I was a kid and I have. On the side of my head.

[C]

Oh, bless you. Oh, the bunk bed. I've never met a guy that fell off the top bunk. You know, they usually have little bars up there to help. I had a bar.

[B]

Although you just confirmed something that I've long suspected, that you're a top.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, I was gonna say it and I was like, you know what? We'll say it. I do have this scar.

[C]

Wait, Seanie, wait. There it is. Yeah, that's called a belly button.

[B]

Sean, you have lost so much fucking weight. I'm not kidding.

[C]

Yeah, I have lost a lot of weight.

[A]

I know, but I'll gain it right away. Will, what did I get you for your birthday?

[B]

Sean sent me today. This fucking asshole. He sent me four large things of ice cream. And he said, this is what I use to get fat. This is what I. This is what I eat to get fat. Happy birthday. And I'm like you, because now I gotta eat it if it's in. It's calling me if it's in the freezer.

[C]

What kind of ice cream was it?

[B]

It's the best. Haagen dust chocolate and coffee and vanilla.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Huh.

[B]

It's the best.

[C]

So creative.

[B]

It's the best. You either go with the best or you don't.

[C]

You've gotten into it since then, right? Will, you opened it up?

[B]

Not this morning. I had cake last night with the kids. We had ice cream cake. Cause that's my favorite. And yellow cake with chocolate frosting.

[A]

That's exactly right. Did you use the cake lady?

[B]

No, no. Mercy made it. Who is here. And she's a great. The cake lady's great. But Mercy makes an incredible cake. And so I will say. Cause we talked about it earlier. Jason, you going in? I ate the cake. I ate early with the k and about 45 minutes after eating two pieces of cake. Cause one of each night, night. I went, no, motherfucker. And I went down. I came down into the gym and I worked out for an hour.

[A]

Oh, you did. You have to.

[C]

Did you zip into the rubber suit?

[B]

Of course. I always wear the rubber suit, as you know.

[A]

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[C]

All right, back to the show.

[A]

Kaylee, you always look so thin. Do you go crazy with junk food at all ever?

[D]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

[B]

Do you?

[D]

I mean, you know, I definitely do.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

You know what else, Kaylee? You've got great skin. I've always noticed that about you. Yeah, you've got really nice. You've got really nice skin.

[D]

Well, that's so nice. Thank you. I know. It's really nice to have a work thing this morning and not have to do any hair and makeup whatsoever. I was very excited.

[C]

You know, that's on purpose. You know, while we get to look at each other, we're, you know, it's like, I don't want anyone to have to go, ah, makeup and the whole. It's the best.

[D]

I mean, you guys have to look at me. But other than that, no one else.

[A]

Why do you have such good skin? Do you stay out of the sun?

[D]

No, I don't stay out of the sun. I've got quite a skin regimen. All my little products. But I'll bet.

[C]

But you were very good about putting on sunblock when you were almost a semi pro tennis star when you were a youngster. Yes.

[A]

Wait, what?

[C]

Let's get into it. Yes. She decided. She decided at 16. I could go this way. Or we could try acting.

[A]

You were a tennis player?

[D]

I did. I played tennis my whole juniors when I was younger. Yeah. That's all I did. And I really thought I was going to be a professional tennis player when I was much younger.

[B]

Where was that?

[D]

Here.

[C]

Camarillo?

[D]

Yeah, in Camarillo. And then Southern California. And then. But I traveled all over the country and I loved it. And then realized, oh, my God. And I was auditioning and working and then I got my first show and I was like, to be a professional tennis player, you gotta really just do that. I thought, I don't know if I can give myself to both. So I was like, I'm never gonna play again. I put my rackets down at like 16, but I played very competitively for years and years as a young teen.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

And traveled all over and I loved it. Yeah, I loved it.

[A]

It's cool.

[B]

So hard. That takes so much training and so much dedication.

[D]

I loved it.

[C]

And do you still play? A tiny bit.

[D]

So I. I stopped for years. You know, I think when you're competitive in any sport, it's not fun. The fun kind of leaves a little bit. So to play for fun was not something I wanted to do.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

So over Covid, my girlfriend, who is my oldest friend, who was my doubles partner as a young. When we were really young, she's like, let's start playing again. So started playing doubles together during COVID and like entered tournaments. And it was hysterical. And had.

[C]

I loved it because it's socially distant. Right. That. That's why you could do it during COVID That's why Will got back into golf. Son of a.

[D]

So, yeah, I heard that you had some rage, but that was interesting story.

[C]

Real issue.

[B]

Which time? Which time did you hear about you talking about the guy didn't charge his Tesla?

[A]

That's one of the greatest stories I've ever heard.

[C]

Now, see, now, that's a perfect example of. Of me two years ago versus. Versus. Now I exit myself from the situation before I'm accountable for my. I will separate myself from people and just deal with it.

[B]

I will say that he did approach all of us who were playing with him yesterday and said, one by one, I'm not joking. And he said, hey, man, I'm really sorry that I've been kind of grinding and cranky today. And he went and I heard him say it to the other guys, and I thought, fuck. This is a new Jason.

[C]

My beautiful wife Amanda is teaching me how to be a better man.

[B]

Kaylee.

[C]

Guys, don't fight.

[B]

We want to talk to Kaylee so bad. I just want to know if she had rage. When you played, when you was your

[C]

worst moment, did you ever say, you can't be serious?

[D]

Oh, my God. Are you kidding? I broke so many rackets. I had a real bad attitude, actually. Did you really? To this day. You don't want to play Scrabble with me. I am the worst.

[C]

You don't want to play Scrabble? I'll kick your ass and Scrabble.

[D]

Exactly. That's how I get, too. I lose my shit. I love to win. I don't fuck around. It's not a joke to me. Game night is not. No one wants to let me participate in game night because I don't make it fun for anybody.

[C]

Do you have a game night going right now?

[D]

Like, in this moment?

[C]

No, because, Shawnee, sometimes you do. Game nights.

[A]

I like games.

[D]

We love game nights. We are obsessed.

[C]

But again, you say we. We're talking about Tom Pelfrey.

[D]

Are we now, me and Tom Pelfrey, we love game nights.

[C]

Easy on the eyes, I can tell.

[A]

I love that.

[B]

Is that. Is that your guy? Is Tom Pelfrey your guy? Is that your guy?

[D]

Tom is my guy. We love game nights.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

I met him because of. It's really. I have to thank Jason.

[C]

They met at the Ozark wrap party, if you can believe that.

[A]

Sweet.

[D]

You're the reason I met him. Yes.

[C]

Yeah. Now. Now, walk us through this story. What? Did he know you were coming or did you know he was going to be there? Was there any sort of setup there at all? I don't remember.

[D]

I knew. So we have the same. I'm sure you've heard this story a million times, but we have the same manager, and she. The December that Past December, she had said, I want to set you up with someone that I know. And I said it was too soon after my last relationship. I was like, no, I'm not ready. She goes, noted. Fine. So in April, I was going to New York to promote Flight Attendant, and my manager Andrea was like, yeah, so you're sure you can edit the applause in later? That would be great.

[C]

Yep. And we put a little in for Big Bang earlier. Go ahead.

[D]

Thank you.

[C]

Thank you. These are great shows.

[D]

These are. Thank you.

[C]

Please continue.

[D]

So I. She decided to come with me to New York to just hang out. And she goes, actually, I'm gonna. My other client is going. I'm gonna see my other client there. And she didn't even really say it was Tom, but she said, I'm gonna go to the Ozark premiere, and it's during the week, and do you wanna come with me? And it wasn't.

[B]

You were like, what's Ozark? Nobody knows what that is.

[D]

100%. I had no. I never heard of this show. I didn't wanna go. And so she said, come with me. And I was like. I was like, okay. And I. I went with her and got all dolled up. I knew I would meet him, of course, but it didn't occur to me about anything else. And when I got there, we were a little late, and so everyone was piling into the theater. I didn't have a minute to meet him. And I was actually standing near waiting in the line in the restroom. I was faced away, and I overheard, you know, he's got a very sexy voice, Mr. Tom Pelfrey. And I overheard him say to our manager, where is this Kaylee? And I turned around, and it was

[C]

like, she's right in front of you, waiting to take a dump.

[D]

And you were like, that's what I said. Yeah, that's what I said to him. And he thought it was really cool that I was so open. No, I saw him and it was like this very strange. Like, the world kind of stopped.

[C]

Really?

[D]

Yeah, it was really wild. And he gave me this huge bear hug. And like I said, there were so many people piling, and it wasn't a moment to really talk. And so we all just. I was like, nice to meet you. Yeah.

[C]

I mean, he is real easy with that quick smile. Right.

[D]

He's got a nice. That laugh. Come on.

[C]

Yeah. Infectious.

[A]

And so how many years has that been going on?

[D]

We've been together for one year. We got pregnant. Two months in, we have a baby. We were like, boom, boom. Boom.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

We're insane.

[A]

Let's go back to my room. Yeah.

[D]

You know, we're not 20 anymore. We were like, we doing this or not?

[C]

So Matilda is a full month.

[D]

She's five weeks old today, you guys.

[A]

Oh, my gosh. Congratulations. That's you.

[B]

Wait, you had a baby five weeks ago?

[D]

Can you believe that?

[B]

No, I can't.

[D]

It's crazy. I know.

[A]

And look at you. You don't look like you had a. Like, you're just. You look great. Tom.

[C]

Tom actually carried it.

[B]

Oh, no kidding.

[C]

No kidding.

[A]

Oh, that's interesting.

[D]

If a man could.

[C]

They're very progressive.

[D]

Tom would carry the baby. He is that obsessed.

[A]

But how do you have energy? Like, aren't you exhausted?

[C]

Or do you have one of those good babies that sleeps all the time? Time.

[D]

She. No, she's pretty awesome. Look, I'm not gonna lie.

[A]

I.

[D]

We have some very nice help. Yes. I feel even guilty saying it, but we have very nice help, which is why I can like it. Ch. I have. Our relationship is so survived because we have all this help with this baby.

[B]

Listen.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I mean, yeah.

[C]

I mean, if he. If he can. If you got in laws or whatever. Yeah. Just big, big fan of like.

[B]

You used to think about this in the old days. It used to be people all lived with their families in the olden times, and you had. And family would help out and you'd have siblings and parents and grandparents and stuff, and it would all. And now.

[C]

So not at the end of your rope.

[D]

Yeah, and now it's different and it's great. I mean, my mom is here this morning and she was, like, so excited. I had something I had to do so she could hang out with the baby for an hour. So it's like. It's the best.

[C]

Now. Does she. Mom. Does she. Mom. Matilda, like you would, or do you guys have, like, a little bit of tension? Like, don't start trouble.

[D]

Honestly, my mom is the best. And actually so is Tom's mom. They are like. They come in. They help. They don't overstep.

[C]

Do they get along? Do the moms get along?

[D]

Oh, my God, we're so lucky. They all oddly look like each other too. And they're. They've become very close. We're just, like, really lucky.

[C]

Yeah, you're very lucky.

[D]

We're very lucky.

[C]

That's great.

[D]

I know, I know. Five weeks old.

[C]

I can't.

[A]

Do you want more kids?

[D]

Yeah, we do.

[C]

Sean, you move. Are you moving a couple?

[A]

Yeah, I'm moving a couple.

[C]

Do you have Any links you could send her?

[A]

Yeah, Dark Web.

[C]

All right, so let's start with. Now, big bang is something. That was a big bang, right? That was a phenomenon.

[B]

9, 10, 12 seasons.

[A]

12.

[B]

12 seasons. I mean, that's incredible.

[A]

Now, could you have. Could you have kept going? Or was it like the. You know, this is the right time to end this.

[D]

You know, I'll be honest with you. And I've talked about this before. We truly, our group of actors, we thought we were 100% doing the 13th season. We thought, we'll do a 13th. It'll be the last one, you know, and then. And this story is not new. I'm not giving anything away. I mean, Jim really did. Jim Parsons really wanted to be done, and he was kind of the first person to call it. And we were not. We didn't know that was happening. We kind of all thought we were gonna do another season, but we heard it at the beginning of season 12. Basically, after, like, our second table read, we were told this was gonna be it and was actually kind of. I mean, as sad as we all were and, like, kind of a little bit shocked, it was cool. Cause then we had, like, a whole season to really be in the moment play. Yeah, it was cool. We could kind of, like, slowly.

[A]

It was Jim's show. Was it Jim's show Originally?

[C]

Yeah. And then it kind of became more of an ensemble.

[A]

Ensemble show.

[D]

Yeah. He just was. He was done. And we were all just, oh, my God. It was so shocking. But then I think over the few weeks, it was like, okay, maybe this is the right thing. And honestly, I mean, for me, I wouldn't have even done. I don't know if flight attendant would have happened. Like, the timing.

[A]

Yeah, Everything happens for a reason.

[D]

Yeah, totally. So we were. It was fine.

[C]

But that routine of in front of a live audience, that is a. Do you miss that? I mean, it's so.

[D]

I loved it. I loved the audience. I thought it would. I loved, obviously, love the schedule. It was great. I'm happy now not doing it, but it was such incredible memories. I mean, some of those live shows were some of the best nights of my life, for sure. I mean, my dad never missed a tape. He was in the audience every week.

[C]

Every single week. He had his own chair at the back of the audience. Couldn't sit in it. The angel could not even sit. He was standing the whole time. And what we do before each show, with a little thumbs up.

[D]

He gave me a thumbs up for curtain Paul. Every time it came out in the

[C]

crowd, and the cast would do it too. And the crew.

[D]

Yes, the crew started, obviously, my dad. So everyone would do this, like, thumbs up for my dad. I mean, he was there. I'm not kidding. Every. Every show night for 12 years, my

[A]

dad came to none of them. He didn't come to any of them.

[B]

We didn't go to anything.

[A]

Yeah, he didn't come.

[B]

No, he went to Kaylee's shows. Your day, Sean, your dad went to every one of Kaylee's shows.

[D]

He was so wonderful.

[B]

We loved him. He drove her dad.

[A]

He had a chair.

[B]

He was so into it. Kaylee, how many episodes did you guys do of Big?

[D]

Oh, my God. You know what? It was something like that. I actually don't remember the number.

[C]

22. 13. Quick.

[D]

We did 20.

[B]

I'm sure there were some years. There was 24 and.

[C]

Yeah, 250, something like that.

[D]

It was up there. Yeah.

[C]

300. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That's so impressive. And it's so.

[A]

And I. I said, like, once, and

[B]

I'm not just of the schedule, but of. Of like, kind of what Jason was saying, like, being able to go and do that every week in front of the audience, that's so. What people don't understand is how. How much fun.

[C]

Yeah. A live audience really is so fun. It's so fun now when we're a kid and we're at home, we're playing tennis. Where did the whole thing for acting come from? Gary or Lane? Lane. Am I saying that right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Lane.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Lovely.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Were they into acting at all? Like, how did this come about?

[D]

No, it was kind of crazy. No, I did a lot of different things when I was younger. You know, I would go on auditions. Like, I said I played tennis, went to these camps that I loved. Like, it was. I had a million things I was doing. So. And I. It was just. It was smart because nothing ever really got me down. Like, I wasn't like a child actor who was just acting. Like, I just. It was another thing that I did. And then if that didn't, I had a tennis lesson or I went away for the weekend. Like, they just constantly had me in all these different things and. Until it got a little bit more serious. And I remember very clearly they sat me down. I was pretty young. I probably was not even 8 or 9 years old, and they sat me down. They're like, this is a real job. Like, do you want to keep doing this? And there was, like, not a doubt in my mind. I was like, this is what I want to do. Tennis they're like, are you sure?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You're talking about tennis.

[D]

No, sorry. I wanted to be an actor. So keep playing tennis. Keep doing both. Have the second thing. They weren't comfortable with me just doing the acting thing.

[A]

What was the first real gig? Were the first real paying, like, Cheerios, Something like that.

[D]

I mean, I did do all those commercials. I was the Barbie girl for, like, two years. I did, like, a handful of Barbie commercials. I was in every single one.

[C]

Do you still have them on tape?

[D]

Oh, yeah. Somewhere. My mom.

[A]

I want to see those.

[D]

I was the Oscar Meyer. I sang the Oscar Meer song.

[C]

I just give us a little.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know how to spell

[C]

an Oscar Meer exactly.

[A]

Yes, you sang that in the commercial.

[D]

Yeah, I had to do the whole thing and play against a fake little wiener.

[B]

Anybody?

[A]

Anybody? Anybody?

[D]

I was tossing that up for you. Will I know.

[B]

No, no, no.

[C]

All right, so then, so then you're. You're, you're. You're acting along and you're. Was there. Was there a thought? Well, maybe I should go to college, too, to have. Make sure I have, like, a backup or something. Did you go to college?

[D]

Hated school. So that was the one thing I just was not grade school. 7th, 8th into early. I said, I asked my parents if I could get my ged, and I was very clear. I'm like, guys, this is not for me. Like, I know my future is not going to be. I hated school.

[C]

I don't need trigonometry.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. It wasn't for me. Even when I had to do set school, like, the devastation that I had to, like, leave set to go do school, it just killed my soul. So they let. They were like, I can't believe they listened to me. It's kind of amazing. They let me get my ged.

[C]

Well, Gary's very permissive.

[D]

He was like, go ahead.

[C]

That's always been the bump on him.

[D]

They were so cool about it.

[A]

Wait, were you. I'm such an idiot. Were your parents actors, too?

[D]

No. No, they were not. My mom stayed home with us since the minute we were born.

[A]

Jay. How do you know their names? Gary.

[C]

I'm just, you know, doing bits, you know, I did a little bit of research. I know their names and I'm acting as if I know them. It's fine. Gary was a realtor. Gary was in residential real estate state.

[D]

Oh, yes.

[C]

Mostly in the Camarillo area.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

These are guesses. These are guesses.

[D]

He was a. He was a paramedic. Firefighter, actually, for a very long time.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[D]

Yeah. Went into real estate, and my mom stayed home. I mean, my mom truly drove me all around town. Like, that's all she did was brothers and sisters. And my sister. Yeah, my sister's three years younger.

[A]

My sister want to do. Did the same thing or.

[D]

No, she did. She loved school, though. She went to high school. She was like a, you know, a little social butterfly. But she's. She's an actor, too. She has an amazing voice. She's incredible.

[C]

Yeah, she was on mask. No, not mass singer. The Voice.

[D]

The voice, yes.

[A]

Oh, wow. Really?

[D]

On the Voice. Got through a couple rounds.

[C]

Now, with. With. With Gary's history in medicine, do you know cpr?

[D]

What's funny is we just learned CPR because of this baby, right? So we had these private CPR sessions, which, by the way, was terrifying. I don't know if they're showing you how to do, like, the CPR on the baby that was. I'm like, I'm never gonna remember this, by the way. I'm so traumatized by even doing it on the fake baby. So we did technically learn, but I learned it, too.

[C]

But I think I need a refresher. Cause I think I may have forgotten maybe, because, like, you forget one little component, it's useless. Sean, Will. Do you guys know cpr?

[A]

No, I don't, but I can guess. But wait. How to do it. But wait.

[C]

In a pinch.

[A]

Yeah, in a pinch, I could probably just guess what to do. You just plug them. You plug the nose, make out with the person, and then pound on the chest. Saturday. Yeah, but wait. I always thought it was so crazy in, like, movies and TV shows when people, you know, are passed out or whatever, dying, and people have to do CPR and they're pounding on their chest, how does the actor not, like, move? Like, I'd be like, ow, ow, ow, ow. Every time. You know what I mean?

[C]

Like, you're the worst actor. God.

[D]

Well, I think they. I remember we had to do CPR in a scene in Flight Attendant. I mean, they're pretty padded. I don't think we're just socking people in the chat.

[B]

Sean, this is, like, a question. Hey, we got a question from the audience over here for Showbiz. When you guys are shooting a movie, is it real when the. What are you doing, dude?

[A]

I always wondered that. I always wondered that because it looks like, what are you doing? You're pounding. And also when you're breathing. When you're breathing into their mouth in a TV show, or movie and how are you not going like, you know, how do you.

[C]

What about I went down to give you mouth to mouth on Murder Bill and you just. I thought you were gonna let me and then you didn't. And I was like, wait, I'm. You're going to let me.

[A]

And you. I was too embarrassed.

[B]

It was you guys that was so good. Jason, I had to give you. Oh no. I had to put a pill in your mouth.

[C]

You had to put a pill in my mouth and under arrested and I

[B]

kept telling you that I hadn't washed my hands. But.

[C]

But this is about Kaylee.

[B]

I know this is about. This is about. This is about Kaylee. So.

[A]

So they put pads on. They put pad on.

[C]

Can we please escort this guy out of the.

[B]

I know this is.

[A]

They put padding on and then you push on the pad.

[C]

That's right, yeah.

[A]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[D]

Yeah. And then they'll cut to, you know, his chest and they'll take the pad out.

[B]

Sean, you know. You know Star wars, you know they don't shoot that in space, right?

[C]

Yeah. And the lightsabers are not. They won't really cut you in half.

[A]

Hey, May the Fourth be with you.

[B]

God.

[C]

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[C]

Kaylee, were you prepared for the uber success of Big Bang? Like, all the fame, the notoriety, the money, everything changed and sort of exponentially every year.

[B]

Notoriety is bad. Notoriety.

[A]

Didn't you shoot the pilot like a couple times or something?

[D]

Yes. I was actually the third actress to join Big Bang Theory.

[B]

Really?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Wow.

[D]

They did a pie. They did.

[C]

I believe two old Chuck had the. The thinning shears. Out. Huh?

[D]

100% year out.

[B]

Do you know who did it? Do you know the people? You don't have to say their names, but you know the people who did it before you. The picture.

[D]

I knew one of them.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I knew one of them.

[B]

Awkward, huh? Weird.

[D]

Well, yeah. Well, I knew her later, so it was like. It wasn't like she was my friend at the time. I'm like, oh, you got a show? And then I went and took it. But no, I did know her later and she actually ended up guest starring. She was still friends with everybody, it was all fine.

[B]

Oh, good.

[D]

I know.

[A]

So they shot one pilot, trashed it. Two second pilot, trashed it. And then the third pilot, you were in the pilot from the get go.

[D]

They kept rewriting it and revamping it. I mean it was totally changed when I joined. Like, it wasn't what it was at all.

[A]

And so what is it about? Like, this is fascinating to me. What is it about that particular show that they kept throwing money at it and redoing it? And what was it that they believed in so much? Just the concept or. And the actors in it or like why. Whereas opposed. As opposed to other shows, you shoot a pilot, didn't go, they throw it out, like vibe.

[D]

I think I remember Chuck did a couple. I know he's talked about this before, but he just like really believed in it and the studio believed in Chuck. And he kept saying, give us another chance. Give us another chance. Like I can make. I think I'm gonna make this work. And you know, he's Chuck and he does. So they just.

[C]

He single handedly kept sitcoms alive for

[D]

the last 15 years.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

But he kept saying, I'm gonna get this right, I'm gonna get this right.

[C]

And you know, and so what about all the fame and the money and the being recognized on the street all for all that? Because it was, I mean, the show was enormous.

[D]

You know what's so crazy? I feel like my sort of. I hate him in this word, whatever, this fame or whatever. I was such. On a slow, like uphill climb. I was. I feel like there are actors who get like maybe they do, I don't know, they do some huge film or something. Then all of a sudden, right, it's overnight fame and they're like, oh my God. I don't really feel like it was like that for me. Like I've kind of. I've been doing this since I was five years old, right. Like, not that I was famous back then, but like I've always been in the business and I've always done a. And it never affected me that like I never felt that moment of oh my God. I knew when Big Bang Theory because

[A]

it was what you did for a living.

[B]

Yeah. But Big Bang Theory had got like 30 million viewers a week. Like it was insane.

[D]

I know. We were, I mean it was awesome. We were thrilled.

[B]

And Sean and I did, when we did that show, the Millers and especially the first season, we were on behind you guys, behind Big Bang Theory for a year. And you, you single handedly like kept Us on the air because we had the lead in of Big Bang Theory were, like, sweet. We could just air some dial tone if we wanted.

[C]

But then you can't drop off a lot. Right. Then you got the pressure of trying to hold that number.

[B]

We did drop off. Yeah. And then they got. And then they moved us, and then we were like, oh, we're screwed.

[D]

But it was a little phenomenon, man. I don't know. Like, people just.

[B]

I was just massive. And I know. You know who I know. I knew a few people, but I certainly know Johnny a little bit. Such a nice guy.

[A]

Oh, he's the greatest. I love.

[B]

He's such a nice guy. Such a nice soul.

[D]

He's, like, doing his thing.

[C]

Where did he move to? Did he move to, like, Tennessee?

[D]

Nashville. Loving it. Yeah.

[A]

That's so great. He's such a good guy.

[D]

I gotta tell him. I saw you talk to you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Please say hi to him for me. I just. He's such a sweet person.

[D]

I know.

[C]

All right, so now what you've done is you've somewhat combined your passion for acting and your passion for tennis, although you're letting Chris Messina do the tennis part. But tell us about this incredible new show called Based on a True Story, Produced by Agath.

[D]

Do you know that? You probably know this, but when I met Mr. Tom Pelfrey, he had this script in his hand. He was reading it, like, three weeks into dating him. And I go, what are you reading? He goes, I'm reading this Based on a True Story. I, I, I can't do it because I've got this other show. But, yes, and I think I know that. Read it. And I was like, give me that. Let me read. He goes, it's so funny. This is obviously a year ago. And I go, oh, my God, this is hilarious. He goes, I know. It's so funny. It's Jason's. Jason's doing it and all this stuff.

[B]

I said, I stole it from Jason's trailer. He'll never read it. He'll never get around to reading it.

[D]

Well, he was gonna play the plumber. He was looking at maybe playing the

[C]

plumber after working with him on Ozark. Like, anything and everything I heard about or thought about and people were talking to me about him was like, yeah, what about Tom for this? What about Tom for that?

[D]

He loves you so much, man.

[C]

Chances are high. Maybe that was something I was aware of, but it was one of many. Probably had a bunch of stuff.

[D]

Isn't that crazy that I was like. And I, like, whipped through It. I said, this is brilliant. Obviously, that was months before I even ever got the call for it. And things were written very differently. The couple had older kids. The story was a little bit different. So once I got the call and I was kind of talking about it with you guys, I was like, I love this so much, but I don't know if I would have teenagers. We started talking, and then Craig, our showrunner, was like, we'll take away the kids. They were kind of helping me figure out. Figure out how this could be. I loved it so much. Plus, I love true crime. I love tennis, I love working in la. I was like, I need all these things. This is great.

[B]

So the general concept sounds like a good job.

[C]

Yeah. So the general concept is that you and Chris Messina are married. The great Chris Messina.

[D]

The best.

[C]

We'll hold for applause there.

[D]

The best.

[C]

He plays an ex tennis star. You play a realtor that is obsessed with true crime podcasts. You have a plumber come to the house to fix a toilet, played by, ironically, Tom Bateman.

[D]

Yes. Fabulous.

[C]

Isn't that weird?

[D]

Yes.

[C]

And, and, and. And this guy turns out to maybe be a serial killer. And you guys decide, well, we're not going to turn him in. If he agrees to do a podcast with us about his serial killing.

[A]

I got it.

[C]

Serious. And we'll keep his name away from the authority authorities.

[D]

No more zoom.

[A]

Great.

[C]

There's probably a better way to describe it, but that's. That's. That's the bones of it.

[A]

Right? That sounds great. Wait, when is this on?

[C]

This is coming June 8th. June 8th. On the peacock.

[D]

Absolutely.

[B]

What? This is streaming on the cock.

[C]

It's streaming out of the cock, of course. Yep, yep, yep.

[B]

That's what we always say on the. Anything for.

[A]

Wait, but that sounds really great.

[B]

Yeah, I know.

[D]

It does sound really, really good. It was such a quirky. It was so insane, the story. I thought it was so brilliant. I said, I have to the of be part. And then like, after we had. I had signed on, we got everything going. I came to LA to do some chemistry reads and Jason wasn't there, but there was. The producers were there and I was talking to everyone and I sat them down. I'm like, guys. Because they had written it and it was done and ready to go. I was like, guys, what if this character was pregnant?

[C]

Just spitballing.

[D]

Craig goes, I'm like, now think.

[C]

Think about your answer first.

[D]

Yeah, really. Think hard. Cause this could really be. And they were like, well, I'm like, no, really? And they're looking me, and they're like, what? I'm like, surprise.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[D]

Oh, my God. We hadn't. We were like a month out from shooting, maybe a little longer, but I said, do you think you could write it in?

[A]

And how many months were you when we started shooting?

[D]

I was five months. I mean, we shot three weeks before I gave birth.

[A]

Yeah. Wow.

[D]

About up until three weeks before I gave birth. Yes. So I was five months when we started. So let's say I was like four.

[C]

And didn't they say, well, Kaylee, we can delay. Start a production, like, have your kid, enjoy. And you were like, no, no, no, no, no.

[A]

I want.

[C]

Right.

[D]

I want to do it now. Because I also. Not only did I want to do the show, and I was so ready to do it. I actually. And also I wanted to. For them to write in the pregnancy. I actually thought it worked for the show. And once we all talked it out, it actually worked. I don't remember it not being about this couple being pregnant. Plus, the way they wrote it in was so brilliant. Like, it never focused on the pregnancy. It just. This was. I was just pregnant.

[C]

Also ups the jeopardy, too, that you're basically working with the serial killer. And you can see this big, huge baby bucket the whole way through. Yeah.

[D]

Fully pregnant. That's cool.

[C]

So you were five months pregnant and through till what, being eight months pregnant by the time we wrapped, four weeks

[D]

before I gave birth was my wrap day. Yeah. But it was awesome because I got to. I mean, what job. I got to eat what I wanted. I was treated like a freaking queen. I was the best. I wore what I wanted. I felt very empowered. And also, like, comfy shoes all the way. So long. Yes. Comfy shoes. I've been able to, like, play my eight. I've been in this business for so long that I thought it was cool. Like, okay, now people are seeing me like, I'm going to be real about this, and I'm going to show that this is exactly what I am, and I'm pregnant and it's fine. And I'm working. And I thought it was, like, a good thing to do. I don't know. It just felt right.

[A]

That's cool. I would have killed to play that killer. I want to play.

[C]

He's great. He's really great.

[D]

Oh, my God, he is great. Messina, they're all great. It's really cool. Weird show and very funny.

[C]

Now you're very lucky because it's shot in Los Angeles. You're going to be able to bring Matilda to the set if and when there's a second season. Yes. Have you thought about, like, how that's all going to kind of play out?

[D]

I mean, dude, I would do a second season in a heartbeat.

[B]

Let's get this done today.

[D]

It was one of the most fun experiences I have ever. I really mean that.

[C]

That Christmas scene is just a real joy.

[D]

We laughed and that's.

[C]

That's what's fun. Not. Not to. We move on after this. But that. That is real. I mean, the writing is fantastic, Concept's fun and all that stuff, but the chemistry between you two guys, I don't know. It's just. I do. I do stuff sometimes, and people say, hey, boy, how did you guys get such great chemistry? Well, it's. When you have two really nice people, it's pretty simple. Simple. Thanks, Chris or Sean Will. Don't you guys agree, like, chemistry is not. Not a mystery if you're not working with a. Yeah, exactly. Chris is just awesome.

[A]

People are like, well, they had great chemistry. Yeah, because they're normal, nice people.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

Good, right?

[C]

And it's. It's infectious. And it works for the characters, too, because you guys are kind of aw, shucking while working with a serial killer. It's. It's pretty great.

[D]

No, we had a blast, man. It was. It was awesome. I can't even tell you.

[A]

I had a question about.

[B]

Well, I just want to say it out loud. It's. What's it called again?

[C]

Based on a True Story.

[B]

Based on A True Story. June 8, streaming on the. Just so we can say it. Just so I can. Because neither of you can say it, But I can say it.

[A]

You know, I can see it.

[C]

Set his calendar. You're ready to do it. Are we having a viewing party at your house?

[B]

We're gonna do a viewing. We're doing. Are you kidding?

[C]

Are you kidding?

[B]

You did it.

[C]

Would you.

[A]

I want to know. I have something.

[C]

Go ahead.

[A]

Do you have, like. Do you have any kind of desire to write and to be a writer and to write scripts and, like, direct?

[D]

I think I could direct. I think I would be a good director because I like to get in and get out. Like, I don't waste a lot of time. I'm also not every. Like, it was funny working with Messina, who is very. Likes to prepare and likes to rehearse and watch every, you know, playback. I. That is not my jam at all.

[C]

You're in your room.

[D]

Yeah. I would like to get in there. Why are we talking about this? Let's just shoot and then Chris is like, but we have to. What are we gonna do now? Like, he's hysterical. So the two of us together, kind of balance.

[C]

That was like me with Laura Linney. Laura was very, very prepared. Very sort of always. The notes in the script and the lines always learned and, like, it was very admirable. But I just. My brain doesn't work.

[D]

Me too. Very admirable. I mean, my brain does not work that way either. It's just not for me.

[C]

I know, but there. And it makes a great partnership.

[B]

Yeah. I'm not a playback watcher. As an actor, I can't watch playback.

[C]

So, Tracy, what happens here is that you shoot a scene, and then you can go to the monitor, little TV next to where you just shot, and they'll play it back for you so you can see what you did good, what you did bad, what the technical things are you need to look out for. Then you go and you shoot it again.

[B]

And. And it really was initially is not for the actors. It's for. Generally for the director. So the director can watch. Maybe the producer.

[C]

The camera is seeing.

[B]

Yeah. See what the camera's seeing and said, be like, hey, let's get that again. Maybe there's a bump on the camera move. Maybe the light wasn't right. Maybe the wrong line, whatever.

[A]

By the way, you know who invented or created the playback?

[C]

Who's that show?

[A]

Jerry Lewis.

[C]

Is that right?

[B]

Really?

[D]

What?

[C]

Huh?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Huh? Now, some actors will not look at playback, and they won't even see the film once it's all done cut together. And I don't get that. I learned so much about what I did wrong by looking at what I do.

[D]

Like watching the end product.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, shoot it and go home and then go to the next job.

[D]

That's me, too.

[A]

Otherwise, you're just obsessed. You're obsessed about. About, like, what am I? You know, I can't do it.

[D]

I'm the same way.

[C]

Maybe I should do that with golf, Will. Maybe I should care a little bit less.

[B]

Well, let me just tell you, I was gonna say to you, I talked about you at great length with Josh last night.

[C]

Oh, boy.

[B]

This is true. And I did bring up that you're not, you know. Josh.

[A]

Oh, Josh.

[C]

He's a friend of ours, and we play golf.

[B]

Golfer Josh. And so Josh, who's. He's a Kaylee. He's a friend of ours. He's a bald fella. And I keep saying that I want him to start wearing a different wig every day. And I said, it'd be amazing because he keeps his head shaved. And I'm like, if he showed up every day with a different wig, oh, my God, I never. That is so fun. So anyway, we were saying, apart from the fact that, Jason, I think you're malnourished and your blood sugar is abnormally low and that that's what makes you cranky all the time in everything you do, not just golf. I think on, on, on top of that, you need to stand over the ball and hit it.

[A]

Right.

[B]

You have too many thoughts. And Jason is, is, is known as, as one of the slower golfers in the Los Angeles Southern California.

[C]

Yesterday.

[B]

He was so slow yesterday. And he thinks about way too much. And, and Kaylee, you know, as a actual, you know, competitive athlete that sometimes you just have to let it. Your instant take over. You just gotta go, yeah, maybe, maybe Kaylee needs to be the person to come play with you and walk with you and be your kind of sports psychologist.

[C]

Yeah, be my whisper.

[D]

I would be so bad at golf that would, that sport would make me insane. Like, it would make me insane.

[B]

But, but you could talk him through. You could be like, Jay, speed it up. Hit it, get the ball.

[A]

What about, what about bowling? Do you guys like to bowl?

[B]

All right, Kaylee, this has been great.

[C]

Yeah, thank you for joining us today.

[B]

Sorry. Unfortunately, somebody decided to capsize the whole thing with some about bowling.

[C]

That's a Tony Award nominated actor.

[A]

Well, you said, you said Josh is a bald guy and I'm a bald guy.

[D]

And then you went to.

[A]

And I went to bowling and I like to bowl.

[B]

Antoinette Perry just rolled over in Kaylee.

[A]

All right, love you.

[C]

Thank you. You crushed this.

[A]

See you again.

[C]

Crushed this.

[B]

Thank you. This is so great.

[D]

Are a delight. Thank you.

[C]

You got real good chat on you, girl.

[A]

If I was a girl, I'd wear a scrunchie in my hair like you do.

[D]

What do you think of the scrunchie?

[B]

I always do. This is my bit. I always do with scrunch because it's old school. I always go like, listen, guys, the thing is that I think that, I think that what we need to. And I always do my scrunch. Always do my scrunchy.

[C]

I've never seen the scrunchy

[A]

20 years.

[B]

Yeah, guys, I think the problem is, look, if we go over there, can we. And I listener.

[C]

He's gathering his hair.

[D]

He's doing a foe. He's gathering his hair and putting a fake scrunchie in his hair.

[B]

It's my favorite. I love his.

[D]

I have a big 80s scrunchie in.

[B]

I love it. I love it.

[C]

Super cute.

[D]

You guys are awesome.

[A]

Thank you for being.

[D]

You guys are amazing. Thank you so much.

[C]

Have a great rest of the day.

[D]

Bye, guys.

[A]

Honey.

[C]

Bye, Kaylee. Thank you. Bye.

[B]

Bye.

[C]

Bye, you guys. That's just. She's just. That's a real spirit.

[B]

She got great vibes.

[C]

Sunshine wrapped in skin. But maybe it's spirit wrapped in skin, huh? And some sunshine.

[A]

She's one of those personalities, too, that's like a. A phenomenal actress, but you can tell is a fun person and doesn't take life serious. Like she does her work serious, too.

[B]

Kaylee was, you know, I've also.

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Bubbly Cuoco. But, but Kaylee. But it, it. She's so great. She was so great on Big Bang Theory and, and so funny and fun. Yeah. And just like, just like.

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Yeah.

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Just had so much life to her. And then you think like, well, maybe that's the sort of the character she's playing. Nope. She is that person. She has great energy, great vibe.

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Yeah. All the time. You want to hang out with her. I mean, immediately, you know. By the way, have you ever exited a plane when the flight attendant. When you're leaving and the flight attendant.

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It is too early, but go ahead.

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He says, happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Happy birthday sweet, sweet Willie Arnett. Happy birthday to

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you

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