
The posse gets a wonderful surprise from comedy royalty Will Ferrell (Old School, Step Brothers, Talladega Nights) popping-through for some fresh kombucha. The foursome discuss formidable history with the Columbia House records club, throwing their sons’ cellphones out of moving vehicles, and other things like their careers, etc. “Keep your landlines, folks.”
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Will Arnett
Hey there. Will Arnett here. Welcome to Smartless, our podcast, where Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and I, each week, one of us brings a guest that the other two don't know about. And this week is no exception. We get real into it. Most of the time, we just mess around with each other, and then the guest has to be embarrassed. So let's get right to the podcast. Smart.
Will Ferrell
Less.
Will Arnett
Smart less.
Jason Bateman
Smart.
Will Arnett
Less.
Jason Bateman
Hi.
Will Arnett
Hi. How are you?
Sean Hayes
Good, good. Should we go around the room and just say our names and our roles?
Jason Bateman
Just introduce yourself.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, I'm Sean Hayes.
Will Arnett
People have been listening to the podcast for a minute now.
Sean Hayes
Sorry, so we just skipped that.
Jason Bateman
Same three idiots.
Sean Hayes
Okay.
Will Arnett
In the role of Sean Hayes is Sean Hayes.
Jason Bateman
Should we switch parts today?
Will Arnett
Oh, we could switch parts. Ooh, yeah. I'll play Will. I'll play Will. No, I want to play Will. You guys are assholes. You both want to play? A question?
Sean Hayes
Oh, God.
Will Arnett
Okay. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be Jason. So I was, you know, so. So.
Jason Bateman
Now listen for me, though.
Will Arnett
So when I look back and I think about all the things that you've done. Let's start at the beginning. Okay, so America was founded in 1492.
Jason Bateman
But what if I want to really be understood? No one. No one understands me in my house. You know, I've got a wife and two girls. It just. I start talking, they glaze over. So I really have to fight for attention. I get on this thing, I feel like I've got. I can't I've got to stop describing my question, Right? We've spoken about this before, and I just need to ask the question.
Will Arnett
And then Sean. And then Sean's like a golden Sean comes on and he's like, do you like whipped cream?
Jason Bateman
The golden retriever.
Sean Hayes
Golden retriever.
Will Ferrell
What's your favorite color?
Jason Bateman
If Will was a dog, what kind of dog would Will be on this podcast?
Sean Hayes
Oh, God, that's a good question. Will's probably like a. Like an untrained German shepherd.
Jason Bateman
But messy. Matted.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Just drool coming out on the sides.
Jason Bateman
Bad hips. Like the. Like the German shepherds get. Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Dysplasia.
Jason Bateman
Yeah.
Will Arnett
Jesus. B. B, be like a full size standard, but shaved poodle.
Jason Bateman
So cold, yet fancy.
Sean Hayes
And very proud walks. Very proud.
Will Arnett
Very proud.
Sean Hayes
Lord. Anyway, let's get to our guest, please.
Will Arnett
Yeah, let's do it.
Sean Hayes
And I'm going to tell you, you guys actually know this person, but we're going to find out stuff that we don't. I don't know about this person.
Jason Bateman
If it's my mom, I'm in trouble because I haven't called her for a while.
Will Arnett
Can I just say, if it's your mom. What?
Jason Bateman
Careful.
Will Arnett
This would be such a.
Jason Bateman
Careful.
Will Arnett
No, I'm just gonna say it would be such a mitzvah if it was your mom, because we could really get into. There's so much stuff about you and we've known each other a long time that I want to know, you know.
Sean Hayes
Whose mom is not going to come on mine because she's dead.
Jason Bateman
So that's our first commercial break. We're going to go to a florist commercial break right now.
Will Arnett
Sean, by the way, I will say your mom is dead, but imagine if my surprise guess was your mom. That would really. That would be more surprising than me.
Sean Hayes
Being pale or paler than me. My God. Guys, our guest today is from Irvine, California. His mom was a teacher, and his father played sax and keyboard for the Righteous Brothers.
Jason Bateman
Do we get a chance to guess at any point?
Sean Hayes
No.
Will Arnett
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Sean Hayes
No, don't guess because it'll. I want. He studied sports journalism at usc, but ultimately went on to join the Groundlings, and the rest is history. He's got, like, a million movies under his belt, and I'm sure that's not the only thing. Ladies and gentlemen, William Farrell.
Will Arnett
Oh, my God.
Will Ferrell
Wow. Jason.
Will Arnett
There's his headshot.
Will Ferrell
Jason. Hi, Jason.
Will Arnett
Jason, answer the belly.
Will Ferrell
Jason, it's your mother.
Jason Bateman
First of all, she's British. Will.
Will Ferrell
Oh, okay. Sorry.
Jason Bateman
But let me guess. Let Me guess. And let me guess. And that. Oh, what a great booking, Sean.
Will Ferrell
Congratulations, guys. Can I just. Can I start by saying I'm so excited to be on the Gong show podcast. All things you want to know about the new Gong show, and it is just. I mean, it's sweeping the country, both countries, Canada and US. And.
Jason Bateman
Aren'T that taking fire?
Will Arnett
It's unbelievable. Are you just drinking? Is that just medicine out of the bottle? That's what it looks like.
Will Ferrell
Are you just.
Jason Bateman
That's a kombucha. I know that because my wife drinks those.
Will Ferrell
But it does look like a tonic.
Will Arnett
From old time tonic.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Ferrell
Old time tonic. Yeah.
Will Arnett
And I just. I drink it as a prophylactic.
Will Ferrell
Sure, yeah.
Sean Hayes
Will Ferrell, thank you so much for coming on our. Our little show.
Will Ferrell
My pleasure.
Sean Hayes
And we're all obviously such gigantic fans of yours. And one question. You know. You know, you're one of the rare people in this business, and I think I can speak on behalf of everybody that's, you know, it's really hard to find people like you.
Will Ferrell
Hold on one second.
Jason Bateman
Will Ferrell's got a phone call.
Will Ferrell
Yep.
Jason Bateman
Tight five, everybody.
Will Ferrell
Okay. That's a large pepperoni, right? Uh. Oh, do you want chicken fingers with that?
Jason Bateman
Okay.
Will Arnett
I thought he was ordering. He's taking orders.
Will Ferrell
Can I get the. Oh, all right. Okay. All right, Todd, we'll be there in 35 minutes.
Will Arnett
He asked for the address, and then he knew the guy, so he didn't need the address.
Will Ferrell
Hey, hey. Keep your landlines, folks. Keep your landlines.
Jason Bateman
It is pretty strong.
Will Ferrell
That looks like a banking system collapse. You're going to want to have a landlord.
Sean Hayes
What? I was going to say William was feral. Was.
Will Arnett
Yes.
Sean Hayes
I always wanted to know, what is that one thing or that one event or that one person that made you want to get in the business and pursue comedy? What was Barack Obama correct. Before that? Before that.
Jason Bateman
Great answer.
Sean Hayes
Just like a week before that.
Will Ferrell
The one. The one thing. The one person.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Was there, like, a show or a person or an event or something in your family or.
Will Ferrell
Oh, Jesus. This is supposed to be things you don't know.
Will Arnett
Here come the waterworks.
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
And we are losing light. We're losing light.
Will Ferrell
I said I wouldn't cry. You said you wouldn't try to get me to cry, Sean. But right out of the gate, here's the real answer to your question. Yeah, I enjoyed being funny as a child, but I was actually diametrically opposed to going into entertainment because I watched my father, the musician, go from job to job and Be fired at the drop of a hat. And I thought that's not. Who would want to do that. I'm going to have a job where I carry a briefcase to work.
Jason Bateman
I can relate to that. I had some of the same fears myself, yet I still went into this non meritocracy and fickle sort of industry.
Will Ferrell
You went in early. You were early. You were early child.
Jason Bateman
Right. But you, you. You were young as well. But I mean, not a child. But I mean, you still had a. You had an opportunity to take a different path, yet you didn't. You still. You couldn't resist the allure of the pancake makeup.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. So what.
Will Ferrell
So what about that floor lights? After seeing your dad, Are there still floor lights? Yep, yep. They're scooped. They're scoop lights.
Sean Hayes
Scoop lights?
Will Ferrell
Yeah, yeah.
Will Arnett
Scoop, scoop.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Ferrell
Scoops.
Sean Hayes
No. Okay, listen, Will. But seeing your dad do that over and over again and not like, you know, travel, not hold down, you know, secure kind of jump. So what if that discouraged you? What encouraged you?
Will Ferrell
I. I just kind of slowly started incorporating the. The messing around with my friends, which I'm sure we all did.
Jason Bateman
Let's keep it clean.
Sean Hayes
Okay?
Will Ferrell
Yep.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Okay.
Will Ferrell
You're right. Entertainment of my. Oh, that sounds weird. Yeah, the massage. No, no, no.
Jason Bateman
Tickle giggle.
Will Ferrell
Tickle giggle. You know, we don't. We'd love to have a good gang. Tickle giggle.
Jason Bateman
That's it. We got it. We're back on.
Will Ferrell
No, I just had. I. High school was kind of the moment. Even though I wasn't like a theater kid or anything. And I found myself writing what were essentially skits.
Sean Hayes
But was there like a comedy person that you were like, God, I wish I could do what that guy does.
Will Arnett
Or who did you think was funny when you were a teenager?
Will Ferrell
I kind of the typical interesting that.
Sean Hayes
Will Arnett asks it once and gets a response.
Jason Bateman
The pipes.
Will Ferrell
Yeah, it's the pipes. Exactly.
Will Arnett
I just got down to it. I didn't dress it up with a bunch of bs, Hayes.
Will Ferrell
I was a member of the Columbia House Record and Tape Club. And one of the items.
Sean Hayes
Oh, you're being serious.
Will Ferrell
I'm being serious. For $1 plus postage and handling, which really comes out to about a buck 89. That's where they get you. I got to choose 13.
Will Arnett
Still seething.
Will Ferrell
Well, it's supposed to be for a penny. You got 13 albums and it's not a penny, it's a buck 89. Okay.
Jason Bateman
It's the handling that's expensive.
Will Arnett
Hey, man, we don't work there.
Will Ferrell
It's the posters and the shipping and handling.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Ferrell
Not to mention, if you. You get a. You get one record a month. If you don't send it back within 14 days, you're charged for it. Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Is that how you still use Netflix?
Will Ferrell
I'm doing it the original way. Yeah. I never. I still get the discs. I'm not streaming.
Sean Hayes
I blame you.
Will Arnett
Will drives by Ted Serrano's house and throws discs at his front door. And here's your fucking movies.
Will Ferrell
I'm with these. One of my. One of my was the cast album of Saturday Night Live. And so.
Sean Hayes
Okay, great. So you always aspired to. To be on the show that you.
Will Ferrell
Were on, I guess, quietly. Yes, quietly, I did, but that's.
Will Arnett
So, Will.
Will Ferrell
So you wanted to. And. And. Hold on. I'm not done.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, shut up, Arnett.
Will Ferrell
I know.
Jason Bateman
Fuck. Will, can I talk to you privately real quick?
Will Ferrell
Yeah, yeah.
Jason Bateman
No, no, Arnett. Sorry. Listen. Yeah, listen, Arnett. When the guest is responding to a question, for Christ's sake. No, no, wait until this Conan does. Because silence follows a completion of the fucking answer. Here we go.
Sean Hayes
Okay.
Will Ferrell
Steve Martin. Steve Martin, Yep. And then I was also a Tonight show weirdo. I'd stay up and wait to see who the comedian was. If there was a comedian on that night, I'd watch. If there wasn't, I'd turn it off.
Jason Bateman
Wow.
Will Ferrell
So I was kind of. That's how I.
Will Arnett
So those are the guys. Steve Martin, also an idol of mine, too, comedy wise. I just thought, right. So. So dry and brilliant. But what was that moment? So you. You grew up in Orange county, you go to usc, and then you go to Groundlings. What is that gap between when you. I never knew this, like, from when you finished USC to Groundlings. What was that gap like? How did you.
Will Ferrell
So I graduated USC with a degree in sports journalism. So in my mind's eye, I'm gonna go work on espn. You know, I'm gonna be a sportscaster and.
Jason Bateman
Oh, that would have been great.
Will Ferrell
I. I know I blew it and missed it. In fact, Craig Kilborn brings that up to me every day. Do you remember Craig Kilborn?
Jason Bateman
I sure do. Do you have a. Do you have an ongoing friendship with Craig Kilborn?
Will Ferrell
I haven't seen him in probably 15 years. No.
Sean Hayes
Well, he's on next. He's coming on next.
Will Arnett
Come on out, Craig.
Jason Bateman
You'll see him in the green room on your way out.
Will Ferrell
Come on out, Craig.
Will Arnett
If you were quarantining with Craig Kilborn, that would be it for me. It'd be the greatest. So. So you finish.
Will Ferrell
So, yeah, so I have this. I, I finish and then I start doing my. I mean, there wasn't really a job placement program coming out of college. And so you kind of have to figure out a way. I found like a local Orange county cable access news station I started working at and I was trying to put together a tape which I wish we could cut to that now that. In which. Yeah, I did, you know, started doing some field reporting and you would, you would anchor the news, you'd also work the camera, you would do everything. And there was a light bulb moment in that even though it was this small, rinky dink local cable access, they had legitimate press credentials to all the major sports teams in la. And at that time, the Rams, the LA Rams football team were playing down at Anaheim Stadium. And the editor, you know, of the show, which was actually a teacher of the class, it was actually run out of a junior college. He said, hey, we, we need someone to go interview John Robinson, the head coach of the Rams.
Will Arnett
Sure.
Will Ferrell
At the stadium after this weekend's game. And 40 hands shot up, except for mine, because.
Jason Bateman
But you knew him from sc.
Will Ferrell
Yeah, no, no, I'd never met him, but. But the point was, here were. I'm surrounded by these hungry people who were like, I need that interview on my reel. And my first thought was like, I'm gonna have to check out a camera. Parking, I gotta ask someone. Yeah, parking. I gotta pay for it. I gotta ask one of my classmates if they'll run sound for me.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. And you don't have a lot of money from. You don't have a lot of money left over from that subscription to all those from Columbia?
Will Ferrell
Yeah, no, I'm in debt from Columbia House Records and Tape because he's, he's.
Will Arnett
In the middle of a major lawsuit against Columbia.
Will Ferrell
We are, we are on the five yard line, guys, and if. Please have me on next when we finally come to terms. But I'm giving all the money to charity. But God, we're going to hammer them. But I had no, I had no. I said, this is not a good sign. I should be leaping out of my chair to go and actually get a legit interview with a head football coach from the NFL on my reel so that I can get hired at a, you know, station in Yuma, Arizona. And I said, if I don't, I don't really have that drive, then this other thing that's kind of still gnawing away at me is I should really be looking into this comedy thing. So that's when I signed up for my first class at the Groundlings.
Jason Bateman
Really?
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
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Will Ferrell
Oh, that was. Yeah, that was kind of midway. That was a couple years later during the baseball strike and just kills me.
Will Arnett
Oh, that was a character you did at Groundlings.
Will Ferrell
Yeah, yeah, there was. It was the baseball strike. And I used to. I had. I had a job, the art auction house that my then friend, now wife Vivica, used to work at. I was the appraisal coordinator at the auction house, which was basically. I answered the phones and coordinated appraisals and typed up appraisals and was. Was threatened to be fired on several occasions. But I would. I lived close enough home to drive home for lunch, and I would turn the Cubs games on during the day. And I had never heard of Harry Carey. And I was like, who is this? Who is this guy?
Sean Hayes
Yeah, I grew up in Chicago, so he was part of our lives, a fixture.
Will Ferrell
Right. And so I'm just. I would be listening. And the thing that struck me was listening to a game and listening to this announcer say on syndicated national television, if that ball's a strike, I'm a Chinaman. And I literally did like, a spit take and was like, did he just say Chinaman? Wait, what? Wait, this is like a guy who's paid to do this. He's like. And so I. Not. I just thought, no, this has got to be a sketch somehow. And so I Somehow, even though it was a Southern California audience, I wrote a sketch where it was during the baseball strike. So Harry Carey didn't have games to announce, and he would. He had somehow gotten involved in a play reading and in a local theater. And it was this melodramatic play. And they were just sitting around, you know, let's take it from act one. And it was, you know, Perry had lines like, God damn it, Carol, why don't you ever look at me when we make love? And I And by the end. By the end of the sketch, the audience was, like, doubling over in laughter, even though they. They had no idea that Harry Carey was a real person. This is something that's transcending, you know.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Arnett
By the way, never knowing that, of course, seeing you do the Harry Carey character so many times, but the idea of him doing something, it was always in the baseball context, but seeing him doing something that's completely out of.
Will Ferrell
Oh, yeah. And we had all these other actors, we had a really good troupe, and everyone was just playing it perfectly straight. And, like, this one actress, Maggie Baird, was literally getting herself to cry while she read it. And it was just like, your tears mean nothing to me. This marriage has been broken since the day we crossed the altar.
Sean Hayes
You know, always kind of drunk, right?
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
And quaking a little.
Will Ferrell
And then my friend Roy was the director, like, okay, let's stop there, Harry. I don't know if I'm feeling, you know, just giving the cliche acting notes and like, Harry, I really want to feel it from you this time. And you're speaking to no one but Carol right now in this scene. Okay, let's take it again. And just the starting and stopping of that.
Jason Bateman
And did you do, Harry, when you did your SNL audition?
Will Ferrell
I did. Which was. In fact, I tried to do an augmented version of that. And it was so surreal because, you know, you're just in a. You're just in a void. You're on. You're in 8H in the studio there.
Jason Bateman
God, you must have been so nervous. I would have been just a mess.
Will Ferrell
I just remember listening, waiting in the way. So you guys all know that set up there, waiting by the page desk outside the doors of the studio and hearing the person ahead of you go through their audition while you're on deck and just looking at all the famous pictures of everyone.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Ferrell
Who had just hosted and being in.
Sean Hayes
The spot and the place that you dreamed of being.
Will Ferrell
And now you're walking out to a studio that's pitch black, except for a spotlight and a camera and a boom operator and Lauren sitting in the shadows. And then you just have to do comedy or standing in a void, possibly. So, yeah, that was very surreal. I tried doing it. I don't know.
Sean Hayes
Will Ferrell, I also want to know, like, have you ever desired to do anything? I know you wanted to be a sports announcer, Right. Or sportscaster. But if you weren't doing the thing that you're doing, not quarantining, but in entertainment business, what would you be doing if you had to pick a blue collar job.
Will Ferrell
You had to pick.
Sean Hayes
What would it be?
Will Ferrell
Oh, blue collar. Because I was gonna say I've always wanted to do finance.
Will Arnett
Seems so interesting to you.
Will Ferrell
I love finance. I love figuring out, like a second more, you know.
Jason Bateman
Sure.
Will Ferrell
I can't even do the bit because I don't even know the terms, but.
Sean Hayes
Right. Refi.
Will Ferrell
Refi.
Will Arnett
Low will comes alive when you mention private equity. It's like, what who said?
Will Ferrell
Are you subprime? Is that still a thing? I actually could be a. I could actually be a post person, to be.
Sean Hayes
Quite honest, to deliver the mail.
Will Ferrell
Because I like, like the idea of a route and you get to, you know, have some contact with people and the idea of finishing a task every day.
Jason Bateman
Would you be on foot, armed with the. With the dog spray, or would you be in the buggy?
Will Ferrell
I would go. I would go foot with the trolley. I push the trolley.
Jason Bateman
Nice.
Will Ferrell
Yeah, nice.
Jason Bateman
Those are. Those are sneaky, tricky, those three wheels thing. They will go over on you.
Will Ferrell
I'm sure they. Yeah. In a high wind or. Yeah, yeah.
Jason Bateman
Or if you don't take the letters out, you don't go in a clockwise or counterclockwise rotation. If you take too many out of the left side, it's going to tip over on the right and vice versa.
Will Ferrell
Did you used to do it?
Will Arnett
Hey, how often did you look out the window masturbating at the postman? A lot or a little?
Jason Bateman
Only in the summer months when they wear the shorts.
Will Arnett
Look at that curve.
Will Ferrell
There's David. There's David. David, our postman's here. Yeah.
Jason Bateman
David is gonna topple. David is gonna topple.
Sean Hayes
I'll get the mail.
Will Ferrell
Hey, guys, David's here. Yes. What?
Will Arnett
Wait, cut to the reverse is. Nobody's there. Nobody's there. He's alone. Hey, Bateman, quick question, because you did. We mentioned before you grew up in showbiz. We all know that. We've seen the great things. And people who are listening can right now google up like Little House in the Prairie and see cute little Jason Bateman.
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Will Arnett
Did you ever have a real. Did you ever have, like, an outside show business job?
Jason Bateman
Have you ever had, like a. I didn't. And I genuinely hate that. I'd love to have had a paper route similar to Dave's route with his three wheeler.
Will Arnett
But you were working all the time as a kid.
Jason Bateman
I started at 10. Yeah. So there was no chance to. But I've always legitimately fantasized about waiting tables or bartending. There's something about working for A tip. Which is sort of like the same thing as I. I want them to like me. I want. This table might need something different than that table. Just sort of like, being able to morph into whatever they need me to be.
Will Ferrell
I have. I do. I will say this. All my, quote unquote, civilian jobs, I've been pretty terrible at. So.
Jason Bateman
Because you didn't like authority or you.
Will Ferrell
Were just disinterested, like, slow. Yeah, just like, slow on the uptake. I had a lot of patient managers and supervisors. Who.
Will Arnett
Did you have a lot of job? Like, do you have weird jobs in high school that you did?
Will Ferrell
I never. I was doing sports all the time, so I. But I had, you know, I had, like, the. I worked as a bank teller. I was a valet parker of cars.
Jason Bateman
And how are you taking direction?
Will Ferrell
Well, you know, bank teller, you know, there's certain protocols and procedures you have to follow and this and that. And it just took me a while. I mean, the fact that I was handling numbers and money was. It just.
Jason Bateman
I was, like, euphoric.
Will Ferrell
I mean, that led to my love of finance. But I once had a regular customer stop me in the middle of a transaction and say, can you call your manager over? And I said, sure. And I brought her over. And he. And in front of me, he said, this guy is your worst teller, okay? And I just want you to know this. And he did in a very calm way. And he was like, look. Look at him right now. He's sweating. And I literally was. I was sweating. He's like, he's terrible. He takes forever. He. And the manager, to her defense, was like, please, that's. That's not true. And I was like, no, he's kind of right. And I just want you to know, like, I hate when I have to go to his window. And then he just walked away. And she was like, I'm sorry about that. I was like, you know what? I can't really argue with him. There's. I'm not that great a teller.
Jason Bateman
This was counting bills, counting out cash.
Will Ferrell
Or, you know, everything. Cashing a chat. Yeah. Doing it all.
Will Arnett
So that guy did you a favor in the long run, right? In a lot of ways. Sounds like you need to pen someone a letter.
Will Ferrell
Well, every time I go, every time I put the pancake makeup on, and I picture that guy, and I. I say, who's laughing now?
Will Arnett
So you still do all your own makeup?
Will Ferrell
I insist on it.
Will Arnett
It's crazy.
Will Ferrell
Well, there's allergies, especially in the, you know, post COVID 19 world. We're all about to step into. I will definitely be doing all my own makeup.
Sean Hayes
So, Will Ferrell, you are one of the funniest people on the planet, if not the funniest person on the planet. And everybody kind of. Do you get sick of like, because now you're a parent and you have to show up to like, school things and parent things for your kids. Do people expect that from you? All the time. And what is your reaction?
Will Ferrell
There is. There is a certain level of underwhelming. Is that a word?
Jason Bateman
Yes.
Will Arnett
Yeah, it is.
Will Ferrell
Now I can tell. I can tell there are a lot of let down people continually.
Will Arnett
But Will, I will say this. You know, Will, I don't even remember this. A couple years ago, maybe last year, we were having dinner.
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Will Arnett
I was having dinner with. With Richter and Pete Giles and. And you and Viv came in from a school event.
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Will Arnett
And with a couple other parents. And Will was wearing his name. They're all wearing name tags. And Will says, hello, my name is Will on the thing. Which was, which is great. And that's such a testament to what a great guy you are. And it's like, yeah, man, I'm not here. I'm just here because my kids are at school here. And I'm interested in my kids and their lives in their school.
Will Ferrell
But I'm sure you guys face the same thing. I find more that there are some parents who literally won't say hi because they go so far the other way.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Will Ferrell
I don't, I don't want to bother them. So then you're like, hey, how you doing? And they walk right by like, gosh, what, did I say something wrong?
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
And then do you feel on the, on the opposite of that? Do you feel that you have to sometimes lead with sort of a vibe that is less than sort of friendly or less than sort of solicitous of conversation because you're afraid that if you seem too friendly, they're really going to lean in. And like, how do you kind of say no?
Will Ferrell
I would say that. I would say, at least in the school setting, most everyone is, is. Is relatively normal. I would say that posture, that's my game face for when I'm on a commercial flight.
Jason Bateman
Right. Just sour. Don't come near me. I will rip your head off.
Will Ferrell
I will not here for fun and games. Let's get to flying eye mask and headphones.
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Will Ferrell
They always tell you there's a catch, a compromise, an asterisk.
Sean Hayes
Terms apply. See store for details. May be less than advertised.
Jason Bateman
May vary by mood.
Will Ferrell
Probably Spry zero sugar. It's different. It's the lemon lime flavored refreshment you want with zero sugar.
Sean Hayes
So no fast voice, no caveats, just refreshment.
Will Ferrell
This is spry zero sugar. Obey your thirst.
Sean Hayes
Will Is there anything that you haven't done that you want to do? Either a role that you want to play or.
Will Ferrell
Nope.
Sean Hayes
Talk to you later.
Will Ferrell
Totally satisfied. How do I. How do I turn this camera off? How do I get out of here? How do I, how do I. No, there isn't.
Sean Hayes
Because everybody thinks you can do anything.
Will Ferrell
I don't know. But how do you. How do you. You can't give that answer without sounding like a jackass, right?
Jason Bateman
What, yeah, what would you. What would you do if, like, let's say, let's say Ridley Scott came to you and he want to do King Lear and he just thought he sees something in you that would just be like an incredibly. It's off brand and studio's excited and all of those terms and all of that stuff and the money's just like, like you've never, etc. Etc. Etc. Does your douche meter go off and say, even though you could do it, do you feel like the audience will never accept it?
Will Ferrell
Yeah, I think that would be a. That would be a tough one to try to convince yourself that you could pull that one off.
Jason Bateman
Having said that you have. You have King Lear.
Will Ferrell
Are you about to.
Jason Bateman
No.
Will Ferrell
Jason, are you direct? Are you doing it?
Jason Bateman
No, but you have. But what about what. In all sincerity, I think you've taken what you do and you've pushed it into so many realistic, dramatic, melancholy things that truly nobody else could do, just like no one else could do what you do in comedy. I really think it's admirable how you are so aware of how you come across, what sort of your goal posts are and what you're. You're asking the audience to accept you as I think is. That's a lot of discipline.
Will Ferrell
I appreciate that. But, yeah, I mean, it's. It's fun to do that other stuff, but there are times where I'm. I am always on those sets of more serious things going. This is. This is very hard. And this is hard to not look like you're trying to be the actor who everyone needs to take serious. So it's a.
Jason Bateman
It's a drama face.
Will Ferrell
Yeah. It's so.
Will Arnett
It's so tough, which is so funny because doing. Doing what you do, specifically what you do, Will. Is so. Is so hard. And when I say not many people, like, nobody could do it, and it's.
Will Ferrell
So working out, you mean. Yeah, just work out.
Will Arnett
Well, just lats. The way you do arms and legs. Yeah. Nobody does legs like you. And you've always said that.
Sean Hayes
And thanks for the posts. You always post them, too.
Will Arnett
Not a lot of people know that. Will train Reggie Bush. When I came through sc.
Will Ferrell
I'm a fair. I'm a fairly modest person, I think you guys. I think that comes across here, but I will not hold back. No one does legs the way I do, you know.
Will Arnett
I mean, leg day's a holiday in the Farrell household.
Will Ferrell
Leg day is. Yeah, it's just.
Sean Hayes
Now, here's the other thing. Will Ferrell, you know, you're also known not only as the funniest person in the world, but one of the kindest people. And everybody in this business always just raves about what a great human being you are.
Will Ferrell
That's the hard part.
Sean Hayes
I can attest to that.
Jason Bateman
Because that's what they pay. Yeah, that's the part.
Sean Hayes
They are very, very sweet and. But so that said, I think the thing I always wanted to know what really pisses you off?
Jason Bateman
Yeah, Here we go. This is where we start the interview. He's all kombucha up now.
Will Ferrell
Do you mean. I'm full of.
Will Arnett
We just want names. We just want names that.
Jason Bateman
Yeah. When's the last time you Just screamed your head off and let somebody had it.
Sean Hayes
Yeah. Because I can't picture you angry.
Will Ferrell
No, I, I don't, I don't get, I'm trying to think of the last, I mean, I have screamed before. I have screamed in a professional manner.
Sean Hayes
Or like in life or like at home or like within people and human beings. What pisses you off?
Will Ferrell
I mean, yeah, home, it's, you know, the, the typical frustrations you have with your children. And for some reason I'm always checking myself because I'm holding them to some standard that I don't think I was held to. Like I was, I was, I mean, I did well in school, but I still had, you know, my room was a mess and I never emptied the dishwasher and, but for some reason I'm just like, you guys. Yeah, you, it's not that hard. We're asking you to empty the trash.
Sean Hayes
See, if I was your child, I would laugh at that.
Will Ferrell
And put the liner back in, Put the liner back. Reline the trash can. You're not done. A two step process.
Jason Bateman
Right.
Will Ferrell
But that, for some reason that I get crazy and then I'm like, who is this person? Yeah.
Will Arnett
But I was going to say about holding them to that standard, I, I, you know, during these weird times we had the other day, Archie, our 11 year old, was on a Zoom class.
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Will Arnett
And it turned out he was, he had his camera off and on the side he was on his iPad playing a video game. So I said to Amy, I said to my ex, I was like, I was like, what are we? He's on the thing and blah, blah, blah. And as I was saying to her, like, he's on the, he's on the Zoom class, but he's on pause and he's playing a video game. Beat, beat, beat. I was looking at her, I go, which I probably would have done if given the chance. And you probably would have too. And she's like, yeah, I totally would have.
Will Ferrell
I know.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, exactly.
Will Arnett
It was crazy.
Will Ferrell
I don't, I don't know why. Yeah, I don't know why I go there. But can I have one other thing? I don't on in a work experience kind of Bugaboo.
Sean Hayes
Yeah.
Will Ferrell
I don't love the unit publicist experience on a set.
Sean Hayes
Right.
Will Ferrell
And for those listeners who are wondering, there's a lot of times on a production there's a publicist assigned from the studio and this and that and they're always playing the game of like so and so is willing to do it if you are and then.
Sean Hayes
Right. Guilting you.
Jason Bateman
Yeah, yeah. And they do, they do these wide circles, right? They just do little drive bys every once in a while to gauge whether you're in a good mood or a bad mood. To just want to kind of run something by you.
Will Ferrell
And I'm always, I'm always amazed at, we want to have 20 journalists visit the set and do a three hour interview while you guys are filming. And I'm always like, but wait, isn't the movie the first priority? And I'm always like, absolutely, if we have time. Okay, but when do you think will be a good time? You'll have to check with the first ad. Okay, but is there a window? I have no idea. So you're up for it? Yes, if we have time.
Will Arnett
Okay, great.
Jason Bateman
So you've signed off.
Will Ferrell
If we have time.
Jason Bateman
Right.
Will Ferrell
And then I love those days when there's no time and you just walk by and you go, I'm sorry, there was no time.
Will Arnett
Will, what was the thing? I remember you were telling me once about kind of felt like the same thing. Somebody said to you, hey, we're going to do a golf tournament. Tiger woods is going to come if you're in. And like you felt like somebody. And then somebody had told Tiger that you were going to play. And it was like, yes, yes.
Will Ferrell
Somehow my dad, my dad became. My dad somehow became a middleman. He was asking me, he had some friend of his down in Newport beach who came to listen to him play music. Was like, hey, so he's talked to Tiger woods and Tiger woods is in for it. If you and Tiger woods play golf together and they'll raise a bunch of money for charity for another twosome. So you're a foursome together. And these two, whoever, you know, it goes to the highest bidder to play golf with Will Ferrell and Tiger woods. And that he's already reached out to Tiger and he's good to go. And I was like, well, dad, who is this friend again and how well do you know him? And he seems like a good guy. And, and, and I go, well, you know, a lot of times they'll ask one party before they ask the other. And so maybe I'll check. Let me do some research. And for some reason, some way I had some way to check to see if the Tiger camp had ever heard of this special charity golf.
Will Arnett
Dr. Miller got involved. Dr. James Miller.
Will Ferrell
And it turns out, of course, Tiger. I said, dad, guess what? Your buddy Tiger woods, apparently his team has never heard anything of this. And your friend's lying to you. And he was like, how, how could that be? And I said, I know. That's the way the world sometimes works.
Jason Bateman
What kind of music, what kind of music does he play?
Will Ferrell
He's. He's like an old time rock and roll.
Sean Hayes
Really?
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
Guitarist?
Will Ferrell
No, he's piano, sax. Hammond B3 organ.
Jason Bateman
Wow.
Will Ferrell
Wow.
Jason Bateman
Oh, yeah.
Will Ferrell
Let's hear for the Hammond B3.
Sean Hayes
That's amazing.
Will Ferrell
But yeah, that was Mike. Tiger woods story.
Will Arnett
I. I just, I always love that idea though. I've thought about that so many times. The idea of like, so many. When they go like, hey, we want you to do this thing. And so and so and so and so are doing it. And I always think back to that story of like. And then I'll go, why don't you make sure that so and so and so and so. That's how I found myself on an island with Marie Osmond and Kirk Cameron. You know.
Jason Bateman
Oh, boy.
Will Ferrell
I got asked to play in another charity golf tournament by a friend, assuming that I was going to play with the person I know, right? Only to show up and be placed with four strangers. And these guys were like, in it to win it. And they're like, hey, hope you're pretty good.
Sean Hayes
Did you end up playing?
Will Ferrell
Yeah, I had to play this entire 18 holes with these four guys.
Will Arnett
And they wanted to show you how good they were, right?
Will Ferrell
100%. They're like, we hope you're good because we win this thing every year and.
Jason Bateman
You better be funny and you're.
Will Ferrell
Well. And it was early SNL days, so they kind of had heard of me. Maybe not. And they were like, is that show still on the air? I didn't know people watched it.
Sean Hayes
Sweet. He sounds sweet.
Will Ferrell
And then I literally. We were supposed to be a banquet afterwards, and I said, guys, I'm gonna go put my clubs in my car and I'll meet you back inside. Just. Just drove home and. Did we win? Yes, we won even despite.
Jason Bateman
Did you really? You didn't stick around for the trophy?
Will Ferrell
I didn't stick around.
Jason Bateman
That's strong.
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Jason Bateman
So as we say goodbye to you on this. In this pandemic day. What. What, what do you do the rest of the day?
Will Ferrell
Let's see, it's three in the afternoon. I'm gonna go. I might go. I might go walk our dogs. Peanut and Cosmo. Right?
Jason Bateman
So that's with a mask.
Will Ferrell
They'll be with a mask. I'm gonna do a sweep through the house to find where all the devices have been hidden because these kids are liars. And thieves. And so I'll do a sweep and. And then Vivian, we'll start talking about. We start talking about what we're making for dinner at around noon every day. So we'll have to start.
Jason Bateman
You gotta build a day around that. And then it's sleep by eight.
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Will Arnett
Jason, have you done or Will or Sean? Well, not to your kids, but maybe to Scotty. Have you ever done a thing where you go, you're so had it with the devices? I've threatened during this pandemic a minimum 100 times to throw the devices in the pool.
Will Ferrell
Yes.
Will Arnett
I said this iPad is going in the bottom of the pool if I see it on one more time. Yeah, yeah.
Jason Bateman
But then you quickly realize all that means is more work for you.
Will Ferrell
Yeah, yeah, true. I did throw my, my 13 year old Matias's phone out the window.
Will Arnett
You did.
Will Ferrell
Driving. All of us driving. But it was a real slow crawl and I, I picked a target area where I knew we could find it later and I just chucked it out the window and hit this bush. And he literally was like, what is wrong with you? And he was so shocked that I actually did it. And typical, true to form, we pulled over, he's like, I can't believe it. Burst into tears, went back to. To look for the phone. He's like, I can't find it. I can't find it. I walked right up to the bush. I'm like, here it is. It's right here. And so that was a great little shot across the bow.
Jason Bateman
What you're capable of, right? Don't mess.
Will Ferrell
What I'm capable of. But it hasn't been much of a deterrent.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Will Ferrell
So.
Sean Hayes
Well, Will Ferrell, thank you for being here with us. We love you. You're our comedy hero.
Will Ferrell
Thanks, you guys. So much fun.
Jason Bateman
Can't thank you enough. Very, very nice of you, Willie.
Will Ferrell
Bye, guys.
Will Arnett
Love you, buddy.
Sean Hayes
Bye, Will.
Will Ferrell
Thank you.
Sean Hayes
Guys. That was so fun. How awesome is he?
Jason Bateman
He literally is one of my favorite people in the whole world. And I was a little starstruck there for the first few minutes, but. God, he puts you at ease, doesn't he? What a nice guy.
Sean Hayes
You were Star Trek when I came on or when he was.
Jason Bateman
So sorry. Arnett. Oh, oh, when Arnett was.
Sean Hayes
Yeah, sure.
Will Arnett
Good for you, dude. Good for you, dude. I'm just like, I'm a regular guy. I'm very approachable. Farrell is the best, isn't he? I had the honor and pleasure and good fortune to, to work on a couple things with Him. And they were some of my fondest memories because most of the time we just screwed around.
Sean Hayes
And he's one of those guys who you go, oh, no wonder you're a superstar. Because everybody wants to work with you because you're one of the nicest people in the business and incredibly talented. Right.
Will Arnett
Yeah. He's got. He's got that. As you know, you guys know, he's got that sort of that natural timing that you cannot learn. You just have it or you don't. And he has got it in spades in ways that are. He's got that thing that makes him. He's so surprising, too.
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Will Arnett
Always. He just surprises you with stuff. It's just awesome.
Sean Hayes
Is there anything you guys learned about him that you didn't know?
Will Arnett
Certainly about his dad.
Will Ferrell
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
Isn't that interesting?
Jason Bateman
And all the sports journalism stuff that he was excited about early on.
Will Ferrell
Right.
Will Arnett
It's crazy. I've met his dad a few times and I guess I didn't really realize his dad was a musician. I don't know how.
Sean Hayes
For the Righteous Brothers. I mean, that's crazy.
Will Arnett
Yeah.
Sean Hayes
I did not know he was on Saturday Night Live.
Will Ferrell
Oh, yeah.
Will Arnett
You didn't know that?
Sean Hayes
Wow.
Jason Bateman
Mind blow.
Will Ferrell
No.
Jason Bateman
You gotta go back and look at some of those.
Will Arnett
But you were. You hosted a couple times while he was on the show.
Sean Hayes
I never. I don't look behind me. I don't look behind me. I just look forward.
Will Arnett
Oh, okay. Look. So I don't know how that's applicable in this case.
Jason Bateman
Sean, I'm very proud of you that you. You got. You got Will Ferrell to say yes. Do you have any sort of incriminating photos or does he owe you?
Sean Hayes
How did you.
Jason Bateman
How'd you do that?
Sean Hayes
I have a couple. No, I don't have anything. I can't think of anything. Okay.
Will Arnett
All right, guys.
Sean Hayes
Love you guys.
Jason Bateman
I love you.
Will Arnett
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This episode of SmartLess brings the legendary comedian Will Ferrell into a freewheeling, candid, and delightfully absurd conversation with hosts Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, and Will Arnett. With plenty of banter and behind-the-scenes stories, the hosts ditch the script to explore Ferrell’s comedic origins, unlikely career detours, impressions, parenting challenges, and memories from showbiz and beyond.
[05:55] Will Ferrell: “Can I start by saying I’m so excited to be on the Gong Show podcast. All things you want to know about the new Gong Show...”
[08:13] Will Ferrell: “I was actually diametrically opposed to going into entertainment because I watched my father, the musician, go from job to job and be fired at the drop of a hat… I thought, who would want to do that? I’m going to have a job where I carry a briefcase to work.”
[10:48] Will Ferrell: “One of my [selections was] the cast album of Saturday Night Live… So, I guess, quietly, I did [aspire to be on SNL].”
[12:24] Will Ferrell: “Steve Martin, yep. I was also a Tonight Show weirdo... If there was a comedian on that night, I’d watch.”
[15:12] Will Ferrell: “I should be leaping out of my chair to go [interview an NFL coach], but I had no drive… That’s when I signed up for my first class at the Groundlings.”
[20:47] Will Ferrell: “I hadn’t heard of Harry Caray... The thing that struck me was… listening to this announcer say, ‘If that ball’s a strike, I’m a Chinaman.’”
[24:06] Will Ferrell: “You walk out to a studio that’s pitch black except for a spotlight… Lorne sitting in the shadows… you just have to do comedy standing in a void, possibly.”
[28:14] Will Ferrell: “I once had a regular customer stop me in the middle of a transaction and say, ‘Can you call your manager? ...This guy is your worst teller.’”
[30:12] Will Ferrell: “There is a certain level of underwhelming… I can tell there are a lot of let down people continually.”
[34:20] Will Ferrell: “I don’t know, but how do you… you can’t give that answer without sounding like a jackass, right?”
[35:13] Jason Bateman: “You’ve pushed what you do into so many realistic, dramatic, melancholy things that truly nobody else could do… it’s admirable.”
The group pokes at Ferrell’s reputation for kindness, prompting Will to reveal what truly gets on his nerves.
[37:14] Sean Hayes: “What really pisses you off?” [37:52] Will Ferrell: “I have screamed in a professional manner... but mostly it’s typical frustrations with your children… For some reason I’m always checking myself because I’m holding them to some standard that I don’t think I was held to.”
He also laments “unit publicists” on film sets who guilt actors into endless press duties.
[39:44] Will Ferrell: “I don’t love the unit publicist experience… There’s always this game of ‘so and so’s willing to do it if you are,’ and somehow you’re obligated.”
Will shares a story of being roped into an imaginary charity golf event with Tiger Woods, only to discover it was fabricated.
[42:28] Will Ferrell: “Turns out, of course, Tiger’s team has never heard anything of this… That’s the way the world sometimes works.”
He recounts fleeing a competitive celebrity golf tournament, leaving without saying goodbye after being stuck with strangers:
[44:24] Will Ferrell: “We were supposed to [go to] a banquet afterwards, and I said, guys, I’m gonna go put my clubs in the car... Just drove home.”
[46:04] Will Ferrell: “I did throw my 13 year old Matias’s phone out the window… typical, true to form, we pulled over… he was so shocked… went back to look for the phone. ‘I can’t find it!’ I walked right up to the bush—‘It’s right here.’ [It was] a great little shot across the bow… But it hasn’t been much of a deterrent.”
[05:55] Will Ferrell (comedic deadpan about podcast):
“I’m so excited to be on the Gong Show podcast. All things you want to know about the new Gong Show, and it is just… sweeping the country, both countries, Canada and US.”
[08:13] Will Ferrell on why he resisted showbiz:
“I was actually diametrically opposed to going into entertainment because I watched my father, the musician, go from job to job and be fired at the drop of a hat…”
[20:47] Will Ferrell on Harry Caray’s infamous broadcast style:
“…listening to this announcer say on syndicated national television, ‘If that ball’s a strike, I’m a Chinaman’… I literally did a spit take.”
[28:14] Ferrell’s worst bank customer experience:
“He said, ‘This guy is your worst teller, okay? And I just want you to know this. Look at him right now, he’s sweating.’ And I literally was—I was sweating.”
[31:39] Jason Bateman asks about Ferrell’s “game face” as a parent at school events:
“Do you have to sometimes lead with a vibe that is less than friendly because you’re afraid if you seem too friendly, [other parents] are really going to lean in?”
[35:13] Jason Bateman compliments Ferrell’s unique range:
“You’ve pushed what you do into so many realistic, dramatic, melancholy things that truly nobody else could do… It’s admirable how aware you are of how you come across…”
[37:52] On frustration as a parent:
“For some reason I’m always checking myself because I’m holding them to some standard that I don’t think I was held to… You’re not done. It’s a two-step process!”
[39:44] On press obligations as a movie star:
“I don’t love the unit publicist experience... There’s always this game of, ‘so-and-so is willing to do it if you are’…”
[44:24] On ghosting the golf tournament banquet:
“Just drove home… Did we win? Yes, we won, even despite!”
[46:04] The epic phone-throw incident while parenting:
“I did throw my 13-year-old Matias’s phone out the window… so that was a great little shot across the bow... but it hasn’t been much of a deterrent.”
The episode brims with improvisational energy and camaraderie. Ferrell’s humility, offbeat humor, and willingness to share professional mishaps blend perfectly with the hosts’ signature sarcastic banter. Throughout, the tone is self-deprecating, absurd, and honest, balancing insightful career discussion with side-splitting interruptions and playful digs.
A must-listen for anyone who loves inside-Hollywood tales, genuine friendship, and the art of comedy—served with riffs, real talk, and relentless laughter.