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Bark Sandin
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Luke
Brains on Universe.
Bark Sandin
Hi, friends. It's me, Molly. We are busy working on a whole batch of new Smashboom best episodes. We can't wait. Wait for you to hear them. We'll be back in May with those new episodes, but in the meantime, we wanted you to know that forever ago, our history show is back with new episodes right now. So we wanted to share this episode, all about the history of teddy bears and another little fella named Billy Possum, who didn't quite catch on. It's hosted by everyone's favorite debater, Joy Dolo. Enjoy the show,
Luke
Joy. I think I finally got Hermy the elephant's trunk just right.
Joy Dolo
Luke, you nailed it. That's the most perfect plushie I've ever seen. Most people would think to buy peanuts for their pet elephant's birthday, but Hermey, the elephant who lives in my closet, is no ordinary pet. He deserves something special, like a tiny stuffed version of himself. What do you think of the stuffy I made?
Luke
Is that a plushie can opener?
Joy Dolo
Yes. I'm naming it Candace.
Luke
Who knew a can opener could be so cuddly?
Joy Dolo
Me. I did. I knew it, Luke, because I sleep with one every night. How do you think Hermey got so obsessed with them in the first place? My influence is powerful.
Luke
Okay, so we've got Candace the can opener, a tiny stuffed elephant version of Hermey. What about a teddy bear?
Joy Dolo
Teddy bears are the stuffed animal.
Luke
Yeah, why is that? Why not a stuffed bunny or cat or axolotl? And what's with the name Teddy?
Joy Dolo
Well, the teddy bear's fame is all thanks to a couple of toymakers and an American president.
Luke
Whoa, a president. Sounds like an excellent podcast topic.
Joy Dolo
Ooh, that just inspired another plushie idea.
Luke
Let me guess. A stuffed microphone?
Joy Dolo
I was thinking of a plushie microphone stand.
Luke
Always thinking outside the box.
Joy Dolo
Well, you know, they don't Call me Joy. Outside of the box Thinker Dolo for nothing. You're listening to Forever Ago from brains on Universe. I'm your host, Joy Dolo, and I'm here today with Luke from Hanover, Massachusetts.
Luke
Hi, Joy.
Joy Dolo
Hello. Today we're talking all about the history of stuffies, which are fluffy stuffed animals and one of the most popular plushies, the teddy bear. Luke, I want to know, do you like stuffed animals?
Luke
I do like stuffed animals. I have a favorite one. He's a tiny. I don't actually know what he is. It's kind of like an elk.
Joy Dolo
Ooh.
Luke
And his name is Ted.
Joy Dolo
What does it look like?
Luke
It's like half a foot tall. It has a big head. It has horns.
Joy Dolo
Oh, wow. Have you ever had a teddy bear before?
Luke
Um, yeah. I have a teddy bear now. I go to build a bear sometimes, and the last time I went, I made a Harry Potter bear that when you clicked its paw, it said expecto patronum. So.
Joy Dolo
Oh, wow, that's so neat.
Luke
What about you, Joy? Did you have a favorite stuffed animal?
Joy Dolo
I actually grew up with a lot of stuffed animals. Cause I have four sisters and I'm the third one. So, like, whenever my oldest sister was done with her toys, I would get them. So I always had bears and things coming down. But the one that I rem remember the most wasn't a stuffed animal. It was my little pony. Do you have you seen that show that. My little pony? It's like a little pink pony with a horn with a unicorn. It must be from a long time ago, but. But they were not fluffy. They were hard and they were plastic, but their hair was really silky. So I used to love to just like, brush their hair and braid it. And I used to sleep with mine all the time.
Luke
Joy, you said the teddy bear started with tour makers and an American president.
Joy Dolo
It's true. But hold your horses.
Luke
I'm already holding my horses. This stuffed horse I made for hermey.
Sound Effects / Narration
So soft.
Joy Dolo
People have been making stuffed toys for thousands of years, long before the teddy bear. Folks in ancient Egypt and Rome made fabric dolls stuffed with paper and rags.
Luke
Dolls made from rags, also known as rag dolls.
Joy Dolo
And these rag dolls were popular across different cultures for centuries. But stuffed animal toys, at least how we know them, didn't become popular until the Industrial revolution.
Luke
Industrial revolution.
Joy Dolo
The Industrial revolution was a period in history during the 1800s, when people started making all sorts of different stuff in factories instead of by hand.
Luke
People could use mach more things more
Joy Dolo
quickly, including stuffed animals. One of the first mass produced stuffed Animals was made by a German seamstress named Margarita Steiff in 1880.
Luke
That's around the same time as lots of other stuff was invented, like the telephone or light bulb.
Joy Dolo
Right, and this first stuffed animal wasn't a toy. It was a felted elephant, originally sold as a pin cushion for sewers to stick their pins and needles in.
Sound Effects / Narration
Aw.
Luke
A stuffed elephant. Just like the Herme plushie I made.
Joy Dolo
Exactly. And just like your stuffed Herme, the pin cushion was so cute that lots of kids started using it as a toy.
Luke
Okay, so how do we get from a stuffed elephant pincushion to a teddy bear?
Joy Dolo
Well, there's two stories. So one starts a few years later with Margarita's nephew Richard, who started working at his aunt's toy factory. Richard wasn't a seamstress like his aunt. I'm an artiste. Richard loved to Dr. Often visited the zoo to sketch animals. That's where inspiration struck. That brown bear is so cute. Oh, it would make the perfect toy. So in 1902, Richard created the Stife bear, a plush stuffed bear with movable limbs.
Luke
Opposable stuffed bear. That's unbearably cute. But why did we start calling them teddy bears?
Joy Dolo
That has to do with our 26th President of the United States. But before we dive any deeper, I can't bear it any longer. It's time to play first things first. This is the game where we take three things from history and try to put them in order of which came first, second, and most recent in time. Today's three things are three famous bears. We've got Winnie the Pooh and Kung Fu Panda and Paddington Bear. So look, do you know these three bears?
Luke
Yeah, I've heard of them all. Yeah.
Joy Dolo
Yeah. So which do you think came first, which came second, and which came most recently in history?
Luke
Because I've, like, watched the Kung Fu Panda, like, movies. I think that's most recent. Like. Oh, yeah, and then Paddington in the middle. Because, like, I just feel like Winnie the Pooh is kind of old. So, like, Winnie the Pooh is from, like, the 1940s maybe.
Joy Dolo
Oh, yeah, that makes sense.
Luke
Yeah. So I think the order is Winnie the Pooh oldest, Paddington Bear second, and Kung Fu Panda third.
Joy Dolo
All right, well, we'll hear the answers at the end of the episode right after the credits, so stick around. Hey, we're doing an episode soon all about slang words. You know, words like Riz, Slay, Flex, all the slang. Did you know you can just make up your own, too. Like Beastie. That's a beast. Who's also your best friend. Beastie. Yeah, you know I'm talking about you, Hermie, my Beastie. We want to hear your slang words too. Make up a word and tell us what it means, then send it to us@brainzon.org contact bonus points if you use it in a sentence. Oh, I can't wait to hear what you cook up. Beasties. You're listening to forever ago. I'm Joy.
Luke
And I'm Luke.
Joy Dolo
And today we're talking about the history of stuffed animals, especially one of the
Luke
most iconic stuffed animals, the teddy bear.
Joy Dolo
Before the break, we learned people have been making stuffed toys for centuries.
Luke
But stuffed bears didn't become popular until after the industrial revolution. Industrial revolution.
Joy Dolo
Some people say stuffed bears started with German toy makers. Others point to the 26th President of the United States, Theodore Roosevelt.
Luke
I've heard of that president. He loved being outside, right?
Joy Dolo
Yeah. Roosevelt loved the great outdoors, adventure and hunting, which was a very popular sport back in the early 1900s. And a hunting trip is where our next story starts. It was 1902, the same year the stife German toymakers made their poseable stuffed bear. Meanwhile, the President Roosevelt was in Mississippi hunting for bears. There was just one problem.
Narrator / Additional Voice
There are no bears.
Joy Dolo
Roosevelt couldn't find any bears to hunt. Panicked, his assistants found an old black bear and tied it up to a tree for Roosevelt to shoot. Mr. President, we found a bear for you. But Roosevelt didn't like the idea of shooting this poor old bear. It didn't fly. Feel very sportsmanlike. He was rumored to have said, I
Narrator / Additional Voice
couldn't be proud of myself if I shot an old, tired, worn out bear that was tied to a tree.
Luke
Saving an animal like that sounds like the bare minimum to me.
Joy Dolo
Totally. But this story was quite a hoot at the time. News spread fast about Roosevelt and the bear. A cartoonist even drew up the scene for the newspaper showing Roosevelt refusing to show Shoot the cuddly bear.
Luke
See, it's a very fluffy looking bear
Joy Dolo
with Mickey Mouse shaped ears, a certifiable cutie patootie. This cartoon inspired New York candy shop owners Rose and Morris Mitchum to make and sell a stuffed bear of their own. They called it Teddy's Bear, named after President Teddy Roosevelt. They even got the President's permission to use his name.
Narrator / Additional Voice
Teddy's Bear, you say? It does have a nice ring to it.
Joy Dolo
Teddy's Bear was a wild success. So much so that the Mitchums stopped making candy altogether just to become full time toy makers.
Luke
So Teddy bears got their name from President Theodore Teddy Ro.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
Why is it always teddy bear and never Billy Possum, huh?
Joy Dolo
A giant possum just walked into the studio.
Luke
Oh, okay. It has pointy teeth, long snout, and long skinny tail. Kind of looks like a big rat. But, Joy, possums are not that big.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
That's because it's me. Let me take off this headpiece real quick.
Joy Dolo
It's forever ago producer and professional yapper Nico Gonzalez Whistler.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
Don't forget president of the Billy Possum Fan club.
Luke
Hi, Nico. I guess that explains why you're in that possum suit.
Joy Dolo
That explains nothing. I've seen Nico wear that to the grocery store.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
No, I wear my raccoon suit when I go grocery shopping. It's a totally different tale.
Joy Dolo
Oh, yeah, and way fewer teeth. My mistake. So you're the president of a possum fan club, huh?
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
Not just any possum. Billy Possum.
Luke
Who is Billy Possum?
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
Only the greatest stuffed animal inspired by an American president ever.
Luke
Another presidential plushie. I gotta hear more about this.
Joy Dolo
And we will right after the break. We love getting fan art from our listeners. We love fan art like Nico loves Billy Possum. Since this is an audio only podcast, I can't exactly show them to you, so I'm going to describe one of these wonderful drawings. Okay, so I am there with the beautiful sunshine and a beautiful purple top and some jeans. And my best friend Hermie is next to me with these lovely round ears and a giant trunk and a little bubble that says hi, which is classic Hermie. It's a wonderful drawing. Thank you so much. So if you want to send us a drawing of a teddy bear and Billy Possum line dancing or a sonnet to your favorite stuffy, please send us mail. You can visit brainzon.org contact to reach out.
Luke
Thanks.
Joy Dolo
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Luke
I'm Luke.
Joy Dolo
I'm Joy.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
And I'm Nico, President of the Billy Possum Fan club. AKA the best presidential stuffed animal ever invented.
Joy Dolo
Why am I just learning about Billy Possum now?
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
Because our world is filled with Teddy bear propaganda. Don't even get me started on Care Bears. It all started with the next president after Teddy Roosevelt, President William Howard taft. It was January 1909, a couple of months before President Taft was officially inaugurated. He was invited to an honorary dinner in Atlanta, Georgia, where the president elect requested a dish he was excited to Try. For the first time, Possums and taters. AKA roasted possum and sweet potatoes.
Luke
Wait, people used to eat possum?
Joy Dolo
Yep. It was considered a southern delicacy back then.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
Taft said it was his lifelong dream to taste it.
Luke
Wow. So this dude really wanted to eat possum.
Joy Dolo
Yeah.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
It was a big spectacle. News of the dinner spread far and wide, once again inspiring a cartoonist to draw a picture of Taft holding up a possum.
Joy Dolo
See, Let me take a little looksies. The cartoon reads, if Teddy bear, why not Billy Possum? It even calls Billy Possum the new national toy.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
That very cartoonist presented Taft with a tiny stuffed possum pin at his Possums and Taters dinner. It was sort of a joke, but it inspired a woman named Susie Wright Allgood to go all in on Possumania. Susie started mass producing Billy Possum stuffed animals in hopes of replacing Roosevelt's teddy bear.
Sound Effects / Narration
Possumania Susie or scroll Possum. Possum posses.
Bark Sandin
Oh, yeah.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
She handed out possum pins to Georgia delegates for Taft's inauguration.
Sound Effects / Narration
Possumania Possum pins for politicians.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
She staged events with real possums, including possum parties and an appearance on Broadway.
Sound Effects / Narration
Possum Mania. Razzle dazzle. Public possum stunts.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
There were Billy Possum songs, books and postcards.
Sound Effects / Narration
Possum Mania. Awesome possum merchandise,
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
and Billy Possum toys of all sizes.
Sound Effects / Narration
Life size medium, 4 inches long.
Luke
Life size medium.
Sound Effects / Narration
Possum.
Luke
It sounds like Suzy was all in on Billy Possum. Were they as popular as teddy bears?
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
Well, no. Turns out some people don't find stuffed possums very cuddly compared to stuffed bears. One paper even claimed Billy Possum gave babies nightmares.
Luke
Oof. That's a tough review.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
It also didn't help that their company got hit with a lawsuit over contracts and a warehouse fire.
Joy Dolo
Impossumbly bad luck.
Nico Gonzalez Whistler
Billy Possum Mania ended as quickly as it started. But he lives in my heart forever. And I live inside his head in this possum suit. As president of the Billy Possum fan club, I'm determined to revive his chaotic legacy.
Luke
I'm down for the cause. Can I join?
Joy Dolo
Me too. I can even sew up some Billy Possum plushies for all of us right now. I bet Hermey would like one, too. Possumania. People have been making soft stuffed toys for thousands of years.
Luke
Some people think the first stuffed bear started with German toy makers after the Industrial Revolution.
Joy Dolo
Others think it was created by New Yorkers who were inspired by American President Theodore Teddy Roosevelt.
Luke
William Taft. The president, after Roosevelt also got his own stuffed animal, Billy Possum.
Joy Dolo
This episode was written by Ruby Guthrie. It was produced and fact checked by Nico Gonzalez Whistler and edited by Sandon Totten. Engineering help from Rob Bossi with sound design by Rachel Breese. Original theme music by Mark Sanchez. Special thanks to Jason Scott and if
Luke
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Joy Dolo
Okay, Luke, are you ready to hear the answers for first things first?
Luke
No.
Joy Dolo
Come on, it's gonna be super fun.
Luke
Yay.
Joy Dolo
Okay, so as a reminder, we're putting these three famous bears in order from oldest to most recent. And yours were Winnie the Pooh, Paddington Bear, and then Kung Fu Panda. Is that your final answer? Yes. All right. Da da da da da da. Oh, wow. Oh, no.
Sound Effects / Narration
Oh,
Joy Dolo
you were right.
Luke
Yay.
Joy Dolo
Luke is the smartest kid I know. So Winnie the Pooh, you were right, was the oldest and that was created in 1925. It first appeared as a children's story published in a London newspaper for Christmas Eve. And it was written by author A. A. Milne and illustrated by E H Shepard.
Luke
I've never heard of either of those people.
Joy Dolo
Me neither. You know, Winnie the Pooh is actually based off of a real bear named Winn who was at the London Zoo. Oh, that's neat. Milne and his son Christopher Robin would go to the zoo often and even bought a stuffed bear, which inspired the lovable, honey loving, no pants wearing character.
Luke
Did they buy one of the teddy's bears from the toy makers?
Joy Dolo
Oh, maybe. I'm not sure. But I am familiar with the name Christopher Robin because that was on the show. The Pooh Bear. Winnie the Pooh Bear. It was. Christopher Robin was his best friend. Next up, again, you were right. It was Paddington Bear. And that was 1958 that he appeared for the first time in a book called A Bear Called Paddington by British author Michael Bond. So the story follows a lost bear from Peru who finds himself in London, complete with a big hat, raincoat and suitcase. And the book sold over 35 million copies around the world and translated into over 40 languages and have inspired so several hit animated movies. Have you seen any of the Paddington Bear movies?
Luke
I've seen the most recent one on a field trip last year with my class. Oh, we saw Paddington in Peru.
Joy Dolo
Oh, was it good?
Luke
It was really good.
Joy Dolo
Oh, great.
Luke
It's when he made it back to Peru.
Joy Dolo
Oh, that's cool. It's nice. He had a full circle. So Paddington's favorite food is a marmalade
Luke
sandwich, because marmalades grow in Peru, where he's from.
Joy Dolo
M. Have you ever had marmalade jelly before?
Luke
Yeah, my dad always has marmalade jam at. At our house, so.
Joy Dolo
Yeah, I like it too. I like it with. On toast.
Luke
I put it on rice cakes, but yeah.
Joy Dolo
Oh, yum. That's good too. So marmalade is a type of jam made from citrus, like oranges. After the first Paddington's film release in 2015, the UK saw spikes in marmalade sales across the country. Possibly inspired by Paddington himself. Maybe. And last, but certainly not least, is Kung Fu Panda from 2008. So the Kung Fu Panda is the smash animated movie that came out in 2008, and it features Po, a lovable panda who dreams of becoming a kung fu master and is voiced by Jack Black, who's like one of the funniest folks. The Kung Fu Pandas filmmaker spent years researching Chinese art and kung fu movies. The movie's animators even took kung fu classes to get a better understanding of the characters movements. Whoa. I didn't know they did so much work on that.
Luke
I know.
Joy Dolo
Yeah. So out of these three bears, which one is your favorite?
Luke
Probably Paddington.
Joy Dolo
Yeah, yeah. It's the Peru, it's the marmalade, it's all of that. I still have to go with Winnie the Pooh, because Pooh Bear. Winnie the Pooh Bear. Looking for fun? Join us next week for an episode all about the history of diamond engagement rings.
Luke
Thanks for listening.
Podcast: Smash Boom Best (Brains On Universe)
Episode Date: April 2, 2026
Host: Joy Dolo
Guests: Luke (kid cohost, Hanover, MA), Nico Gonzalez Whistler (Forever Ago producer)
This lively, playful episode of Forever Ago—shared here on Smash Boom Best—dives into the fascinating history of stuffed animals, focusing on the origins of the beloved teddy bear and its lesser-known flopped rival, Billy Possum. Host Joy Dolo and kid cohost Luke explore when and why teddy bears became cultural icons, the presidential stories behind them, and why some “presidential plushies” just don’t catch on. The episode is filled with fun facts, interactive games, and warm anecdotes about childhood stuffies.
The episode is upbeat, packed with humor, puns (“impossumbly bad luck!”), giggles, and good-natured banter. Joy’s warmth and Luke’s curiosity keep things relatable for families and kids, while occasional zany interludes (like the possum-costumed producer) add a playful spark. The style makes learning history fun, leaving listeners with both trivia and smiles.
“Forever Ago and the History of Teddy Bears” is a delightful, engaging exploration of stuffed animal history—spotlighting the plush personalities that’ve captured and failed to capture American hearts. Through stories about innovation, childhood, and even possum parties, Joy and friends show how the toys we love have surprising, and sometimes hilarious, origins.