#107 - The Angela And Shayne Show

Summary

Smosh Mouth #107: The Angela and Shayne Show

Date: August 25, 2025
Hosts: Shane Topp & Angela Dunst

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Episode Overview

This episode of Smosh Mouth features just the core duo—Shane and Angela—digging into their dynamic as hosts and friends without a guest. Their goal is to test their on-air chemistry, explore what sets this show apart from other Smosh content, and, as always, riff off whatever comes to mind: from Shakespeare and caffeine to the perils of social media and memorable bad-luck stories. The episode’s tone is relaxed, playful, and occasionally introspective, giving listeners a behind-the-scenes feel of two colleagues learning more about each other—and themselves.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Easing Into the Show: Dynamic and Nerves

• [01:21] Angela and Shane repeatedly "restart" the intro, playfully poking at podcast nerves and format.
• They note how rare it is for them to have 1-on-1, non-game time together, with Angela stating, "I never just sit down with you without a game in front of us" ([02:05]).
• Both acknowledge how the loosely structured, just-hang-out format makes this show unique within Smosh, and can be initially intimidating.

2. Podcast Sibling Energy & Roasting Culture

• Discussion of being perceived as having “sibling energy” due to their ease roasting each other and being comfortable with playful meanness.
  • Shane: “We both can trash talk and we do not mind it. We think it’s funny.” ([07:04])
  • Addressing fan reactions, Angela observes that fans sometimes miss the mutual enjoyment in the “roasting” and take it literally.

3. Art, Set, and Smosh Office Culture

• The duo comment on studio decor, including a “yasified Shakespeare,” inside jokes with sketches/props like “ham cake,” and a two-dollar bill from Hank Green.
• Discussion about Smosh team combinations and who would make the weirdest podcast pairings.

4. Coffee & Caffeine Rituals

• [11:54]–[15:56] Extended segment on coffee consumption habits:
  • Shane's morning Chemex ritual, Angela’s shifting “caffeine culture” since joining Smosh.
  • Both discuss how caffeine is tied to performance and creative rituals, not just taste or need.
• The dangers and culture of energy drinks ("Have you ever had a Four Loko?"), culminating in Angela’s wild Vegas story involving Four Loko, improv friends, and stolen bedsheets ([19:00]–[23:35]).

5. Luck (Good and Bad), Cars, and Chaos

• [24:00]–[34:00] On luck:
  • Shane claims bad luck with games and parking but feels lucky otherwise. Angela shares a run of bad luck: “My car’s been stolen twice,” including a legendary story about her car being stolen with dogs inside ([27:47]).
  • They compare accident resumes—Angela: “I’ve been in 8 car accidents,” Shane in a four-car chain-reaction crash, sparking a debate about whether this is just "car karma" or the statistical norm.

6. Social Media, The Internet, and Misinformation

• [41:29]–[44:45]; [55:16]–[60:55]:
  • TikTok, Instagram, and Reddit: their addiction, the feedback loop of the algorithm, and how social media can sap creativity by serving up endless critique, not original art.
  • Shane shouts out the book Filter World by Kyle Chayka about how algorithms flatten culture.
  • Discussion on curating feeds, the bleakness of Reddit, and Instagram as “least toxic.”
• Misinformation: The duo joke about the harmlessness of chia seeds and Reiki TikToks, but stress the importance of weighing if content leads to action in one’s life.
  • Shane: “If social media is telling you something that leads to an action… you need to scrutinize it.” ([57:28])
  • Angela: “Sometimes it’s so hard not to like, give it so much weight because it is interaction with a human. But it also isn’t.” ([58:11])

7. Routine, Sleep, and Mental Floss

• [63:32]–[65:54] Angela describes her “advertising alarm app,” which only lets her snooze by answering surveys or puzzles that, “gets me up.” Shane hates this dystopian morning ritual.
• The hosts compare sleep patterns and approaches to mornings. Shane is an early riser: “Waking up at 5:30 on a Saturday… this time doesn’t count… it’s bonus time” ([65:30]–[66:51]).

8. Pets, Preferences, & Corporate Animal Mascots

• Debate about cats vs. dogs and how pets pick favorites in a household ([67:21]).
• Reminiscing about iconic corporate dogs: Target’s bullseye and Taco Bell Chihuahua, and the shift in brand slogans to more “human” or algorithm-friendly platitudes ([69:12]–[71:17]).

9. Food: Morning-Meal Philosophies

• Angela proposes quirky food classifications: “pancakes are breakfast cakes; acai bowls are breakfast ice cream,” while Shane pushes back on the logic, (“There is—the texture is completely different!” [54:17]).

10. Deep, Unexpected Moments

• The question of vulnerability: “What’s your biggest fear?” Both cite fears of insignificance, letting others down, and social discomfort—Angela adds, “I love people so much and I fear them as well.” ([38:42])
• Fear of one-on-one hangs, the pressure to perform/be likable, and how that has affected their lives, friendships, and dating.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Angela: “Can two birds be born out of their mother’s puss?” ([09:19])
• Shane: “Plagiarism had to go crazy back in the Renaissance.” ([03:57])
• Angela (on Four Loko): “I was like, I’m feeling the best I’ve ever felt in my life… My cheek was twitching like crazy, and we don’t want it to freak you out.” ([21:47])
• Shane (on bad luck): “My luck is terrible… when things go wrong, they go wrong so perfectly that I’m like, that’s gotta be something.” ([25:07])
• Angela: “I’ve been in 8 car accidents.” ([32:51])
• Shane (on energy drinks): “An energy drink is psychotic. Like, what are we doing?” ([18:33])
• Angela (on sibling energy): “Any moment when we’re actually at each other's throats, you can see it’s making us laugh.” ([34:49])
• Shane (about TikTok): “My feed is always people just telling me stuff. There’s no longer any original thing—it’s critique of things.” ([42:42])
• Angela (on misinformation): “I think what you said is really important… Am I losing something when I take part in this?” ([57:15])
• Shane (on bonus morning hours): “The world is not moving. This is free time… This time doesn’t count.” ([65:54])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:21 | Podcast jitters and intro restarts | | 07:04 | Sibling energy, roasting, Smosh team chemistry | | 11:54 | Deep dive: coffee and caffeine routines | | 15:56 | Four Loko madness and ritualistic drinks | | 24:00 | Luck, car accidents, and chaos stories | | 41:29 | Social anxiety, fears, and vulnerability | | 44:45 | TikTok, the algorithm, critique vs. creativity | | 55:16 | Social media toxicity, Instagram vs. Reddit | | 63:32 | Alarming (literally): Angela’s wild alarm clock strategy | | 65:30 | Celebrating the sanctity of early-morning “bonus” hours | | 67:21 | Pet loyalties and animal preferences | | 69:12 | Corporate dogs, brand slogans, and “Filter World” insights | | 73:26 | Testing Amanda: “Text us potato, potato” if you listen! |

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

The show is lighthearted and honest, frequently diving into tangents that reveal the hosts’ quirks, vulnerabilities, and creative energy. Even topics like social media toxicity and personal fears are approached with humor and candor. The friendly roasting and sibling-esque banter set a playful tone, revealing how Smosh’s on-screen chemistry translates into real off-the-cuff conversation.

Listeners take away not just laughs, but insights about Smosh team dynamics, the culture of content creation, and everyday anxieties. Plus—next time you see a “breakfast cake” or turn off your alarm by answering a detergent survey, you’ll hear Angela and Shane’s voices echoing in your mind.

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End of Summary

For the next episode, Amanda: Text “potato, potato” if you listened all the way through!

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Transcript

[Angela]

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[Angela]

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[Shane]

Hi, welcome to Smosh Mouth. I'm Shane.

[Angela]

Can you just do it again?

[Shane]

Yeah. Hi, welcome to Smosh Mouth. I'm Shane.

[Angela]

I'm Angela Dunst. And I'm Angela. Too loud.

[Shane]

Nailed it. And we don't have a special guest, so you don't have to say that part.

[Angela]

Okay. Could we just do all that again?

[Shane]

Sure.

[Angela]

I'm a little nervous.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's fine.

[Angela]

Okay. Welcome to Smosh Mouth. I'm Shane.

[Shane]

And I'm Angela. And we have a very special guest. No one. This is good. This is good. This is good stuff. We're off to a hot start. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to the show. This is trippy. This is really trippy.

[Angela]

I'm very nervous.

[Shane]

Why?

[Angela]

Because of how trippy it probably is for you.

[Shane]

It's not like that wild.

[Angela]

Okay. I mean, just said this is trippy.

[Shane]

It is trippy, but it's not like, whoa, yeah. Oh, my God.

[Angela]

It's like, yeah. Yeah.

[Shane]

It's just like, we knew this was happening.

[Angela]

Yeah. No. 100%.

[Shane]

For months.

[Angela]

And I prepped.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

Mike, did you listen to my episode with Damian and Amanda? Yeah, I prepped. That was my prep. When being like, what is Shane like?

[Shane]

Okay.

[Angela]

Yeah. And I feel as if I'm ready for this challenge, but I'm also just ready. I feel like we talked about this. I feel like I never just sit down with you without a game in front of us.

[Shane]

Yeah. And we just do. We do so much, like, group stuff, I guess. We had Gardic Phone.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Where we were like, hanging out. But rarely are you one on one with people.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

So, like, Amanda's kind of the only person that I really feel like I've just had so much conversations with.

[Angela]

Truly.

[Shane]

When we started SM mouth, I had not had many of those moments with Amanda.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

So it's trippy. And then you, like, you. You learn your dynamic.

[Angela]

I also just. Just the pattern of the show. I love this show, but it always takes me a bit because it is so different than all of our other stuff because it's just hanging out.

[Shane]

It truly is.

[Angela]

And just telling yourself, like, you're enough. You don't have to do bits. Like, I already did a bit right at the top. I didn't need to.

[Shane]

You're allowed to do bits.

[Angela]

Wait. I'm dying to see what's behind me. I was trying to ignore it because.

[Shane]

Yeah. Yeah. The art made a board that. And this is who you are. Whoa. So there's Shakespeare. For those listening, there's a portrait of.

[Angela]

Shakespeare and that looks like a yasified Shakespeare.

[Shane]

That's a pretty. Pretty good Shakespeare.

[Angela]

I don't think he looked like that. I think he's wearing the hats, you guys.

[Shane]

Ah, God, that's really put their. Put their all.

[Angela]

He looks like chiseled with like.

[Shane]

I feel like that's the standard Shakespeare portrait.

[Angela]

This. He looks like a. A step away from death. If you see like the real. That looks like he's like.

[Shane]

Do you think that's how. Do you think it's one of those things where we don't know how he actually looked or is that how he actually looked?

[Angela]

I mean, some people sometimes. Have you heard the theory people that he's not real, that he just never wrote that stuff.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

Sometimes I'm like, I'm hop. Skipping to jump away from believing that.

[Shane]

Or that it was like multiple people.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Kind of compiled it. Like, yeah, Shakespeare.

[Angela]

Who fudgeing knows? Who knows if he even looked like that.

[Shane]

Plagiarism had to go crazy back in the Renaissance.

[Angela]

Oh, my God.

[Shane]

Just be like, I wrote that. And they'd be like, well, we have no proof.

[Angela]

Even like kids writing essays. They didn't have chat GPT. Like, if you use. I can't even think about being a kid now when you can have to write an essay and. Yeah. Anyway. Oh, my God, that's my favorite one.

[Shane]

Yeah. You in the lime shirt dressed as me.

[Angela]

Wow.

[Shane]

And then ham cake.

[Angela]

Yeah, that looks disgusting.

[Shane]

That looks awful. I thought it was salmon cake at first, but. No, that's ham.

[Angela]

No, that's a different sketch that we will write soon.

[Shane]

We kept Hank Green's two dollar bill there.

[Angela]

That's awesome.

[Shane]

Yeah. Very cool. And then your baby. Wow.

[Angela]

What a great picture of Cho.

[Shane]

And then Selena wrote, are they compatible? Hosting a podcast together.

[Angela]

Gun to your head. Are we compatible? I think water gun to your head.

[Shane]

Water gun to your head. I think any two. Any combination of two people at Smosh could host a podcast, and it would crush.

[Angela]

Okay, I agree.

[Shane]

Okay. Yeah.

[Angela]

I think the weirdest. I don't know if me and Ian could do it.

[Shane]

I think you could do it. I think people would be there for.

[Angela]

It, and it would be, like.

[Shane]

Been on any good freeways lately?

[Angela]

No. Ian like the Chase Sapphire rewards program.

[Shane]

Yeah. How he's now hating on it. He.

[Angela]

We just traveled with Ian, and he wouldn't shut the fuck up.

[Shane]

Ian will, like, be the bearer of bad news so often where you're like, oh, yeah, this. This cool thing. He's like, no, you shouldn't do that. It's actually bad.

[Angela]

Wait, do you actually do that? You shouldn't do that.

[Shane]

No, it's actually a huge scam.

[Angela]

You could put your credit card down. He's like, are you part of that rewards program? Whoa, dude. You're losing a lot of money.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

And then you just got to kind of sit in it.

[Shane]

Yeah, man. You're getting screwed over, unfortunately. All right, cool. Thanks, man.

[Angela]

Anyway, I'll pick up the bill.

[Shane]

Huge. I'll put my card down. Just don't look at man.

[Angela]

Okay. And then there's. I've seen your side. Yeah, but it's really good. It's nice to look at them all.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's.

[Angela]

It's really cute.

[Shane]

No, our art department really is. Is incredible. They're doing so much stuff all the time. They. They do a great job. I love the color of the curtains.

[Angela]

Yeah, it's really. I love the burnt orange.

[Shane]

Yeah, no, I love a good burnt orange.

[Angela]

In your original Smoshmouth photo shoot, aren't you guys in roller skates?

[Shane]

Not in roller skates, but we're in just, like, very, like, 70s. Are we in roller skates? No. I do.

[Angela]

I have in my head that you guys are in rollers.

[Shane]

It's very 70s aesthetic.

[Angela]

Okay. Okay.

[Shane]

We were kind of going for, like, Sunny and Cher type of vibe.

[Angela]

I love that.

[Shane]

And.

[Angela]

And I know I'm only doing, like, a couple episodes, but we have a whole photo shoot Planned, right?

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Angela]

Whole like, five look.

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah. It's going to be huge. We're going to put them on billboards around la.

[Angela]

Yeah, that's.

[Shane]

With no context.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Just photos.

[Angela]

Injury call.

[Shane]

Injury call here. That'll be great. All right, well, we're just hanging out today.

[Angela]

We're also gonna see if. I think we, like, like, what goes on underneath the fun, competitive, fun stuff. Like, are we. Are we a good vibe?

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah. Like, we're gonna see how these next few weeks are gonna go.

[Angela]

Yeah. A lot of people think we have sibling energy. Why do you think that is?

[Shane]

I think.

[Angela]

Is it because you don't want to kiss me?

[Shane]

Yeah, that could be part of it. Yeah, that could be. That could be one of them, I guess. I. I see the sibling stuff all the time, and I think it's because very early on with you, starting here at Smosh, I think we both clocked, like, oh, we. We both can trash talk.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And we do not mind it.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

We think it's funny.

[Angela]

Yes.

[Shane]

And I think there's other people, too, that we, you know, that you can do it. Like Trevor.

[Angela]

Yeah. Trevor's like.

[Shane]

But what's funny is I think fans, some fans don't. Don't clock it as. As quickly.

[Angela]

Yeah, we're.

[Shane]

They're like. They're like. They're being mean to Angela. Like, Shane is being so mean to her. And same with Trevor. I saw a TikTok where it was like. It was like, Trevor's in a video and they're being mean to him. It's so great. And I'm like, oh, if only they knew. Like, when we. When we cut, we're like, laughing about it. Like, that's funny to us. Like, getting roasted is funny and roasting other people is funny. But I only do it with. With people that. I'm like, okay, it's gonna land.

[Angela]

Yeah. It's like when you see those dogs and they're just like. You hear like, I. At the. Do remember there was two different sounds when dogs are like, hardcore playing. And it's like. It sounds kind of crazy, but you can tell the difference between like and, like.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

So that was a little asmr.

[Shane]

That was really good. You're.

[Angela]

Still.

[Shane]

Still playful. You're like, Caesar Milan.

[Angela]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Shane]

You understand their behavior.

[Angela]

Caesar Milan videos, dude.

[Shane]

That was. That. That was the vibe for a while. For a while in the 2000s, we were all. Everyone was obsessed, and he really wasn't.

[Angela]

Doing much besides just being like, it's not the Dog, it's you.

[Shane]

It's you. You're the problem. Every time it hit, it was incredible. Did he it that there wasn't like a situation where it was like, oh, he's a hoax or he's a scam. Right. I always feel like sometimes like 10 years later you'll be like, oh, but did you hear, like, it was.

[Angela]

There was like four dog handlers back there?

[Shane]

Yeah, it was puppets. It was actually not. They would swap out the dog with a better behaved dog. Like, I feel like that's always got twin dogs all the time.

[Angela]

That would be crazy if they had twins. But dogs do other animals have twins.

[Shane]

Why have I never thought of that?

[Angela]

Me either.

[Shane]

Do they have to Wait, hold on.

[Angela]

Are we the only species with twins?

[Shane]

We're like identical twins, like, born at the same.

[Angela]

Like, can two birds be born out of their mother's puss?

[Shane]

I guess. I guess I wouldn't know. Like, you see it? You see like a horde of penguins. It's not like you're like, well, they're all. Some of them got to be twins.

[Angela]

Which one of you are twins?

[Shane]

Come on. Which one of your identical twins? They're all moving exactly the same way. Maybe they're all the same name. Yeah.

[Angela]

Going to see a bunch of penguins. Which one of you guys are twins?

[Shane]

Which one of you guys are twins? So this is what you're in for for the next few weeks is a lot of penguin jokes, some Cesar Milan.

[Angela]

Jokes, a lot of twin shit this episode.

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[Angela]

Absolutely, Shane. There's too many doctors and I have to see them all. And I don't know when to do it and how to organize it.

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[Angela]

Yeah. Especially you.

[Shane]

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[Angela]

And we are too.

[Shane]

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[Angela]

Especially with our, our timelines showing us so many different types of health hacks that aren't really doctor approved, but they're like, okay, put this red light mask on. It's going to make your skin better. That's not a dermatologist. You need a dermatologist.

[Shane]

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[Angela]

What was that?

[Shane]

Back to the show. I had a. Okay, so I did think. I was thinking of some questions these past few days. First off, you're drinking a cup of coffee. Who do we think is drinking more coffee? Like lately, like on the regular?

[Angela]

Me or you?

[Shane]

Me or you?

[Angela]

Okay, let's talk about it.

[Shane]

All right, so this. Is this your first cup?

[Angela]

Yeah, which is why I'm drinking it now. Because usually I try to have my first cup before we roll.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

Sometimes I don't time it right.

[Shane]

Do you just straight black coffee, nothing in it.

[Angela]

First cup is black.

[Shane]

First cup is black.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Angela]

Throughout the day we add more treats to it.

[Shane]

Okay. Do you like, are they separated or do you kind of just keep refilling the cup?

[Angela]

Depends. Depends. But I. Yeah. Okay. So you like a hot coffee all the time is what I've noticed about you.

[Shane]

I can do. I like a cold brew.

[Angela]

Oh, really? Because I feel like when we take an afternoon coffee order, you're getting something warm usually.

[Shane]

Yeah, it depends. I. In the afternoon, I never feel like I finish it. It's. It's also, it's tough because like, if I'm doing Reddit stories or something, I'm afraid of like ordering like a latte. Cuz if there's milk, I think that affects how you talk.

[Angela]

You think?

[Shane]

Right. Doesn't it kind of like.

[Angela]

I know it affects kind of the way you sing. Like it dehydrates.

[Shane]

You can kind of like. Yeah, it can kind of affect speech a little bit. Make it a little bit harder. I'VE heard, so I just kind of take that. So I. I feel like I sometimes order like an iced coffee or cold brew, but.

[Angela]

Okay.

[Shane]

But I think it varies. I'll feel.

[Angela]

Top of the day.

[Shane]

You're having a black top of the day, hot coffee. I make my own. I do the pour over. I have the Chemex, the hourglass thing, and I make like, a pretty decent amount. And I do. Over the course of, like, from when I wake up to probably like 11am I'm drinking that whole thing.

[Angela]

That. That whole thing.

[Shane]

Yeah. So like now that's like two or three cups that it feels.

[Angela]

You drink more coffee than me.

[Shane]

But I. But I kind of stopped usually by. By noon. I rarely drink coffee in the afternoon.

[Angela]

You don't have your 4pm cup.

[Shane]

I don't really do a 4pm cup that much. So that's.

[Angela]

4Pm cup is more important than my.

[Shane]

I might. I might drink more coffee in the morning, but I stop at a certain point. I think you drink more coffee throughout the whole day. So we might be kind of tied.

[Angela]

Yeah. But also it is. It is interesting because I think my culture around caffeine completely shifted when I started working here.

[Shane]

I really.

[Angela]

I don't. I think it's a brain thing. I don't think it has anything to do with how much coffee I like. I think, like, for some reason, at the top of every video, it's like, I could have a placebo. It could really be like, not.

[Shane]

It's the ritual of it.

[Angela]

Like, I need, like, a little something to be like. And we begin.

[Shane]

Right.

[Angela]

Like, even, like, there's a whole thing right now. My friend Will Branner, he's a star kid, but he was on Broadway and he was like, everyone on Broadway needs a Celsius before the show.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

And now it's just becoming a thing where, like, you just. Yeah. Like, it's just wild, though, because it's just your brain being like, okay, I'm about to do this thing, like a performer thing. I don't know what it is, but being like, I need to, like, spice it up.

[Shane]

I. I only recently. And I. What I don't touch is energy drinks. Right. But recently I've done a couple. And it's because we had a couple times. So we were in Canada, Yumi Courtney and a few others. And we had a show that ended at, like. It ended pretty early, but then we went to another improv show. We watched Dropout do improv. It was a long night, and it ended at 11:30. And then we Knew we had to leave for the. For the plane at 4:30 in the morning.

[Angela]

Yes.

[Shane]

So all of us collectively decided we're just not gonna go to bed.

[Angela]

We realized that the previous nights the parties had been ending at about 2 or 3. So we were like, if we go out and we talk to all these people that we just watched perform, we're gonna be talking to them for a bit. It's gonna, like, if we don't get out before one, it's not worth it.

[Shane]

We recognize we're all gonna at max get sleep for like an hour and a half, two hours. So you might as well. Our logic was you might as well just power through. I know that ultimately any amount of sleep is better than.

[Angela]

I don't buy that at all.

[Shane]

I think. I think any amount of sleep is better for you. No, is better health wise. You might feel shittier because you, like, are falling asleep and coming back up. But you think. I think sleep is one of those things where, like, no matter what much good you can get, it's. Yeah, there's a limit of how much sleep you. Yeah, you can start oversleeping and that's bad.

[Angela]

But I wonder though, if you're getting an hour, if you're even hitting REM and if it was even worth it. Because if it's not rem, I don't even know what the fuck REM is. But I learned what rem, like, someone told me about hit rem. Like, well, if I didn't get enough rem, what even is rem?

[Shane]

I'm not even entirely sure either. But we. I need it.

[Angela]

But I also need to know if birds can have twins.

[Shane]

Yeah. Can birds have twins? What is rem? Yeah, we're asking some.

[Angela]

Someone get Hank Green on the phone.

[Shane]

But that night I was like, all right, I'm gonna drink a Red Bull. And I. Oh, yeah, I did see.

[Angela]

You drink a Red Bull.

[Shane]

I drank a Red Bull and I got through that night. Yeah. I was like, I am not the type.

[Angela]

Did you feel buzzed?

[Shane]

I felt. I definitely felt a little crazy. I wasn't even drinking any alcohol that night, but I was. I was like, whoa, Like, I'm feeling this because I do not drink them. And then recently I did the. The show. The dread show at Dynasty.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And our show is at 7:30pm we had filmed all day here. So I was like, oh, man, I'm feeling a little sleepy. I need to be up and, like, aware. So I drank a Red Bull right before going out on stage. So I. Gentlemen, 7:50pm And I was amped for that show. And then I got home and I went to bed at like midnight, right? And I was like, oh, yeah. It's like I'm able to sleep on caffeine. I Woke up at 5:30 in the morning. I woke up at 5:30, like, like. And I was like already. My mind was like, have you thought about this? Have you thought about this? You should be pissed off about this. And I was like, whoa, like what? I woke up, my brain was already mad about stuff. And I was like, what is going on?

[Angela]

So much about me.

[Shane]

I was like, what is going on? I usually wake up and I. I'm. I'm an early morning person normally, but I wake up and you just have that moment where you're just like, what's going on? Like, all right, I've been had that. I've never woken up where my brain is moving at that pace. I was like, I might get emotional.

[Angela]

Maybe that's my problem.

[Shane]

A drinking caffeine later in the day is. Is bad for you. You can drink. I think you can drink a lot of caffeine as long as you stop at a certain time. I'm not a doctor. Do not take my advice too hard because I grew up Google this research.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I'm always scared to say research for yourself because some people, when they research for themselves, they end up.

[Angela]

It's like giving them a loaded place. But yeah, water.

[Shane]

What I've heard more than anything is, is how far from going to sleep you drink. Caffeine is more important.

[Angela]

But then I go into like, if I've been doing it since I was a kid. Oof, that's stark. But I mean, like in my household, it was like espresso after dinner.

[Shane]

Sure. I think, I think there's variations because espresso is not the same as like an energy drink. That a shot of espresso is the.

[Angela]

Devil'S lettuce in another way.

[Shane]

What do you mean?

[Angela]

The energy drink. I just think you're right. You're. You're so.

[Shane]

An energy drink is psychotic.

[Angela]

Like, what are we doing? Have you ever had a four Lego?

[Shane]

I think I have not. But I've heard so many stories about four Locos. My. I have friends who have the most insane four Loko stories from when it was four Loco.

[Angela]

Yeah. What the. When you're the original four Loco for.

[Shane]

The kids, but it was extra loco. Millennials can tell you the loco stories.

[Angela]

You're wondering why all millennials are cringe. Because we're drinking that gasoline.

[Shane]

Because we're still coming down from the Four Locos.

[Angela]

I'm half of my membrane or whatever the fuck's back gone. Because I was drinking four Locos when my brain was trying to grow.

[Shane]

Our brains are all small beans. Because we were drinking four Locos.

[Angela]

It's like taking a piss on a. On a little sprout.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

My God. I was. I was.

[Shane]

I won't say who and I won't tell the whole story because it's theirs to tell. I will say I have a friend who was like, we drank four Locos. We woke up the next morning and we had decorated for Christmas and it was August. I was like, that's awesome. I was like, holy shit. I never had one. I was terrified. I was terrified of 4 Lord.

[Angela]

Let's get them on the phone. Let's do a branded live show.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

And it's the last under the influence we ever do.

[Shane]

We drink Four Locos. No, but the Four Locos now are not now they're. They've pared them down quite a bit. Because back in the day, they were like, yeah, it's the equivalent of five cups of coffees and seven beers. I'm like, that's called dying. That's cuts. You're gonna die.

[Angela]

I'm crying. We gotta get an OG for a.

[Shane]

Loco and put one on the table. Also right now, it cuts to this episode of Sponsors is brought to you by four Loco. Four Loco.

[Angela]

Okay. I remember my first Four Loco was everyone at ucla. There was one weekend where they would pick to all go to Vegas.

[Shane]

God, you're at UCLA when 4 loco.

[Angela]

Is at its peak.

[Shane]

That's crazy.

[Angela]

And you guys wonder why. I don't know. A lot of logic.

[Shane]

I don't remember anything, man. What was the flavor?

[Angela]

I don't even remember.

[Shane]

Twisted Ball Cruncher.

[Angela]

Arctic Titty Twister.

[Shane]

Conservative.

[Angela]

This one's half calf. Oh, my God. So I remember the first time I ever had one. We were all in Vegas. Everyone at UCLA picks one weekend to go to Vegas. And then you're walking around Vegas and you. It looks like ucla because everyone's there. Yeah. And it's like, big school, big decision. Everyone goes right there. Big decision, big decision. So then I was like, young in my alcohol drinking life. I had just kind of started. So I remember I had a sip of one and I'm drinking it and my. And I'm like, I'm feeling the best I've ever felt my life. Okay? And I'm like, oh, my God. This is. This is life. This is all these Lights are gorgeous. Everything in this Vegas is the most gorgeous place in the world. And then my friends are literally going, don't tell her. No, it's okay. I think it'll freak her out. Don't. No, I don't think so. And I was like, what's going on? What's going on? What's going on, guys? And they're like, no, we shouldn't. We shouldn't. I was like, guys, what's going on? So your. Your. Your cheek is twitching like crazy, and we don't want it to freak you out. Like, my cheek was like, you're like.

[Shane]

Five sips into a full loco, probably.

[Angela]

I was like, what do you mean? And they're like, I think it's just going to freak her out.

[Shane]

And I was like, your mouth is migrating to your forehead. Don't tell her. Just don't tell her what's going on, you guys.

[Angela]

And it was all my improv friends. And. Okay, wait, I'll tell you this story really fast because I just remembered it that night, the four loco night. Me and all my improv improv friends, we were like, okay, we don't have a room to stay in. We, like, only stayed one night, and we decided to stay another night. But we're like, all these frats and sororities, they have all these big suites, and we were like, we'll go to one of them and we'll know somebody and we'll just. Just lay down.

[Shane]

That's.

[Angela]

It's crazy.

[Shane]

Out of this world.

[Angela]

It's crazy. And only improvisers drinking for locos could decide to do.

[Shane]

You're gonna improvise?

[Angela]

Like, we were just like, oh, we'll be like a personality hire and just kind of lay down on the. On the ground. So then. So then we're going up, and then we see one of the housekeeping carts, and we grab a ton of sheets. Okay.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Angela]

And we're like, great. So we're just literally plug and play. We'll just, like, literally walk in, hang out, and just fall asleep, you know.

[Shane]

Walk in with a bunch of sheets.

[Angela]

And then, yeah, one of us, like, put them in the corner, and the rest we all just start hanging out and we're. It's like a big party in this suite or whatever. And it was like all these, like, cool or UCLA people, and we're hanging out, and then at some point, we, like, try to start to lay down, and then someone's like, hey, you guys got to get up. You're not. You didn't pay for the room. And then it's like me and, like, six of my buds, right? We get up and we leave, and then we're walking out, and my friend goes, we left the sheets. And my friend goes, we gotta get the sheets.

[Shane]

We gotta get those sheets.

[Angela]

He knocked on the door, and I'll never forget. They're like, what's up? We're like, we want our sheets back.

[Shane]

We want our beds that we brought to your hotel room.

[Angela]

They're like, fine, go get them. And then we went in there. Holy.

[Shane]

How many of you were there of this improv team?

[Angela]

There were six of us.

[Shane]

I think six people tried to walk into a hotel suite and go to bed.

[Angela]

And then I took a nap on a slot machine, woke up and was fine.

[Shane]

You took a nap on a slot machine?

[Angela]

They kind of just like.

[Shane]

I guess. You know what? To be fair, I see old people doing that all the time when I go to Vegas, and if they can.

[Angela]

Do it, so can we.

[Shane]

Yeah, that's true. Wow.

[Angela]

We should go to Vegas together.

[Shane]

That'd be crazy. Do you like to gamble?

[Angela]

You'd be unhappy.

[Shane]

You'd hate it. We need to go. You'd hate it. I. You know what's funny? I actually don't like to gamble that much.

[Angela]

I think you like to gamble when that's not a game.

[Shane]

Like, I don't like to gamble money.

[Angela]

Okay.

[Shane]

I enjoy chance. I enjoy games of chance. I love, like, in video games, when there's a chance element or board games and there's a chance element, because that's just fun because it's on your own.

[Angela]

I mean, Day at the Races, the original gamble.

[Shane]

Yeah. Mario Party, Day at the Races. It's the best.

[Angela]

What a gamble.

[Shane]

But when I'm in Vegas, I actually don't find myself gambling that much because I. I do have bad luck when it comes to gambling in Vegas. So I. I don't. It has a bad taste in my mouth because I've just not won that much.

[Angela]

Yeah. I've worked with you for a couple years, and I know you always roll low on the ice.

[Shane]

It's actually kind of shocking.

[Angela]

It's, like, pretty remarkable. Like, always roll low.

[Shane]

I. I say this. I've said this before where, like, I'm not. I'm a skeptic. I'm very skeptical of everything. The only times in my life that I believe in, like, the divine or, like, the supernatural is when my luck is terrible. Because my luck, like, when things go right.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I'm like, oh, yeah, things went like that. We Got lucky there. Whatever. It seems like. It just seems kind of random. But when things go wrong, they go wrong so perfectly. Then I'm like, that's gotta be something. And so, like, truly, like, there's gotta be something there that went so poorly in, like, a way that challenges me in such a specific way where I'm like, oh, right, that's a sign.

[Angela]

I'm actually thinking about that for that. That Christmas dread when it was like, you rolled so low. So then you became Santa.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

Or like, Santa jumped into your body.

[Shane]

I got unlucky in that way. But, yeah. In all of Baft legacy and when we played dd, I screwed me bad. Like, I would roll well sometimes, but the average was so low. Always so average Roll. Like, if you total it all up, divided it, it had to have been, like three to seven. Like, it had to have been in that low range. It was shocking.

[Angela]

But that's weird. I feel like. Okay, so do you think you have bad luck?

[Shane]

No, I think. Okay, if I'm buying into. If we're going to talk about luck here, I think I'm actually an extremely lucky.

[Angela]

I think you are, too.

[Shane]

I'm extremely lucky. Where I have bad luck is just located in these games of chance.

[Angela]

Okay.

[Shane]

And I'm fine with that.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Because I can choose not to gamble, but I have bad luck when it comes to dice and parking.

[Angela]

Okay.

[Shane]

Parking. I think I have actually. I have, like, I have pseudo bad luck because I, I, I'm gonna always find a parking spot, but it's just not gonna be close. Whereas I know some people, like my dad and my mom will be the. She'll be like. She'll be like, we're gonna find a spot right. Right up close. He always does.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And it'll just truly, like, someone will pull out right at the front, and he just always finds that. And some people have that type of luck.

[Angela]

Yeah. My parents always have that luck where they're always in line. The line was not aligned. And then you look back and they're like, glad we got here at the right time. That's a good lines really long.

[Shane]

That's a good type of luck to.

[Angela]

Have parents have that luck in a big way.

[Shane]

I think a type of. I don't think this is luck, but Courtney and I feel like, have good luck with, like, waiters being really cool, but I think we're just really chill to waiters. Yeah.

[Angela]

I think you guys.

[Shane]

So I think we get a lot of, like, free shots sometimes we don't want. We don't do shots, but people will bring them. And we're like no, no.

[Angela]

Like see I'm. I have really bad luck. And then randomly incredible and then back to bad back. Maybe that's just how luck works. I don't know. But like it'll just be so bad. Like my car's been stolen twice.

[Shane]

Holy shit, bro.

[Angela]

Right? And then, but then sometimes like I'm like just like sometimes I'll roll.

[Shane]

Like sometimes you get a free car.

[Angela]

Sometimes the cars just fly at me sometimes.

[Shane]

And then I got hit by a car. I was like hey, hey car.

[Angela]

And I went in it, drove it.

[Shane]

Got into the passenger seat, stole it.

[Angela]

And then looked at the registration in my name.

[Shane]

You've had two cars stolen?

[Angela]

Literally.

[Shane]

Holy crap, dude.

[Angela]

In this day and age is what they say, it's so stupid to get your car stolen because they find it so fast is what the cops told me. They were like, don't worry. Stealing a car is so lame right now. This happened to Mild Miles Bensonor recently too. He's got his car stolen and the cops said the same thing. They were like, we're going to find it. You just have to hope it has all its in it. Like cuz people will take it for a joyride and then take apart. But then they find it because there's the like with the license plate they can find it so fast.

[Shane]

Did they find your cars? Yeah, both times.

[Angela]

Yeah. The second time is pretty known. I've told you about it. I've told you my story. When my car was stolen with dogs inside of it.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Angela]

Found the car then. And then the first time it was, it was like my first car ever. I had a RAV4 and I guess RAV4s at that model were really easy to steal. Didn't know.

[Shane]

Wow. And you got that one back.

[Angela]

Yeah, it was stranded somewhere in like a field or something and it, the radio was gone.

[Shane]

Whoa.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I. And by the way, for, for listeners who haven't heard the story, you had a car stolen with dogs. But all the dogs were okay.

[Angela]

The dogs were okay. So was I and so was the car. But it was a very, it's a very long winded story that I've tried to say in a minute under I can't. But yeah, my car was stolen with a bunch of dogs that I was walking.

[Shane]

I cannot think of a worse situation. Like just as far as like agony and stress and anxiety goes like oh my God.

[Angela]

It's like I remember all the dog walkers in that in the community because I was like, I would Go to the dog park every day with. With my job. Every one of them was like, we can't believe this happened to you. We've all been doing this for 20 plus years, and this happened to you. So it's like, that's the kind of luck I get, where it's, like a little performative, where it's like, wow, this bad luck is bad.

[Shane]

Yeah. That's like. That's like a movie, like a TV show.

[Angela]

You're like, this was a little bit written to be back.

[Shane]

Come on, please. They get in the car full of dogs, and they would drive off with.

[Angela]

It, and they found the dogs walking together. Come on.

[Shane]

That's. That's. That's the only wholesome part of that story is the dog stuck together.

[Angela]

It's really good.

[Shane]

Wow. Holy crap. I one time left my car unlocked, and someone stole the airbag out of it.

[Angela]

You could take that out perfectly.

[Shane]

I hop in. I see that my. My door is slightly ajar when I walk up to my car, and I'm like, oh, shoot. Like. Like, what does this mean? And I get in, and truly the steering wheel just empty, like, on the middle part, just. They had perfectly taken it out. I take it to a shop and they go, whoever took this was an expert. They were like, this person rocked.

[Angela]

It's the airbag.

[Shane]

Because they're like. They're like, had they, like, ripped it out, done terribly, you would be replacing so much more. Because they perfectly took the airbag out. They knew exactly how to do this. All you have to do is replace this airbag. And I was like, thanks, thief.

[Angela]

Thanks, dude.

[Shane]

Hey. Hey. Thanks.

[Angela]

He's going. Scalpel.

[Shane]

Thanks. Bad guy.

[Angela]

2, 3, and up.

[Shane]

Like, immaculate. It was just crazy to see, like, the steering wheel without the middle chunk.

[Angela]

See, that's good luck.

[Shane]

I was like, okay. As far as bad luck goes, that's good luck. They also stole my saxophone, which was in my trunk.

[Angela]

To be fair, that was so sad and lame.

[Shane]

To be fair, it had been in my trunk for years. Your saxophone?

[Angela]

They took my saxophone to my airbag.

[Shane]

Oh, boy. My saxophone's gone. I was never gonna play that thing again.

[Angela]

Sapphire, guys.

[Shane]

Sapphire, my favor.

[Angela]

My saxophone's gone, Guys. Okay, Here's a sibling dynamic thing I want to ask you about, okay? We can revisit it later.

[Shane]

It's something.

[Angela]

I'm just floating. I want to get a new car. I don't know what to get.

[Shane]

I'm not the one to ask about a new car. I've been driving the same car forever.

[Angela]

Because I wanted to get a Prius, but people take the shit out of the Prius.

[Shane]

Oh, do they?

[Angela]

People take the catalytic converter. And I'm like, so what do we get? What's an affordable?

[Shane]

I don't. Fuck it. I don't know, man. I've been driving the same car for. I've been driving the same car. I was driving the same car before I got the car I got when I was 17. It got totaled because I got rear ended so hard that I hit the car in front of me. And they hit the car in front of them. And they hit the front of them.

[Angela]

Four.

[Shane]

Four cars. It was crazy, bro. It was. I got my car, like got lifted off the ground, it got hit so hard.

[Angela]

Were you okay?

[Shane]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I was fine.

[Angela]

Whoa.

[Shane]

I was perfectly fine. I did not, like, seriously, not somehow miraculously. Good luck.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Nothing wrong. But the lady, like, lady in front of me gets out, she's like, what the heck? And the lady in front of her gets out and she's going. And I was like, this person's screwed. I was like, that sucks. And I was getting calls from an insurance company for like a year or so, being like, yeah, do you. Have you suffered any injuries or whatever? And I'm just like, no, like, whatever. But I'm like, oh, I know that person.

[Angela]

Yeah, you're like, all insurance payout.

[Shane]

I. I am. This is like a very dumb thing about me. I'm more afraid of like, fender benders than like a big ass car accident. I'm terrified of both.

[Angela]

Why is that?

[Shane]

But, like, because the hassle of like a car accident, of like, insurance forever, I'm just like, yeah, that's. Then now you're dealing with that forever.

[Angela]

What if I told you I've been in a lot?

[Shane]

I've been in a couple car accidents.

[Angela]

I've been in a lot.

[Shane]

How many car accidents have you been in?

[Angela]

8.

[Shane]

Eight car accidents.

[Angela]

And I'd say four of those are fender benders. But they were pretty. Like once I was driving on the 101 and A in a big truck, rear ended me and my entire glass window came flying. Like, it felt like it was raining. I was driving, didn't feel the hit.

[Shane]

My God.

[Angela]

Felt all this glass.

[Shane]

Holy shit, bro.

[Angela]

There was just like a bad car karma I had for like three years. Four years, you're saying karma?

[Shane]

What did you do to.

[Angela]

Oh, no, I didn't ask for it. No, I didn't know. I didn't earn it.

[Shane]

You're just bad luck.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Just bad Luck just.

[Angela]

Yeah, but now it's done at you.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's done. I think you got it all out of the way.

[Angela]

Truly. I got all my car shit for my entire life out of the way.

[Shane]

I wonder what the average amount of car accidents is for an American. I feel like it's. It's got to be like. It's shockingly. I think it's got to be like 2 to 5.

[Angela]

God, that.

[Shane]

Cuz everybody's been in a car accident. Cars are awful. I truly hate them.

[Angela]

They suck. Especially when you're drinking a four Loco. I know it's hard to operate.

[Shane]

I'm trying to drive my Jeep on the opposite side of the freeway, drinking my Four Loko, and people just don't get out of my way. Three to four is the average. How terrifying is that shit?

[Angela]

That's so scary.

[Shane]

I hate them. I hate cars. I'm really like. I'm always a little. I'm always actually very scared when I'm in a car.

[Angela]

What really freaks me out is now it's the norm to have a dash cam.

[Shane]

I know. Because like, yeah, it's truly. It's Mad Max. We're already in it. It's awful.

[Angela]

God.

[Shane]

Anyways, anyways, I wrote out some questions.

[Angela]

Some stuff too.

[Shane]

All right. Sick.

[Angela]

JK. I'm just gonna go on MySpace.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Angela]

I'm pulling up my shit.

[Shane]

All right, hold on. Okay. Okay. All right. Oh, the first question I had, we've already kind of covered it was like, do we hate each other?

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

No, no.

[Angela]

I think you could. Like any moment where we're like actually at each other's throats. I think you could see it's making us laugh.

[Shane]

It's very funny. Yeah. And then followed up with that is now that we're actually sitting here talking, do you actually like, mater from cars?

[Angela]

Yeah. Let's talk about it.

[Shane]

The other day you were like. Yeah, I don't actually.

[Angela]

There's not a lot of love there.

[Shane]

So many fans are crushed right now.

[Angela]

I hate saying this.

[Shane]

There's not a lot of love there.

[Angela]

I do hate that what's his face gets all the attention.

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[Angela]

Yeah. What's his. That's all.

[Shane]

I feel like they split the attention pretty well.

[Angela]

No. I think every single little rolly kid backpack is Lightning Queen.

[Shane]

I guess that's true.

[Angela]

And I feel bad for our. Our beloved tomato, but I actually don't really give a. And you can even see in that clip you say. You say. Makes you make me laugh so hard by being like, you love Mater. And that idea makes me laugh so hard that I'm like, I love that.

[Shane]

I want to love him.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I'm gonna be hurt by this. Yeah. Okay.

[Angela]

I did something crazy.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Angela]

And so I have to. I have to kind of go through this, but one of my best friends recently wants to get engaged with her partner.

[Shane]

Oh.

[Angela]

And she goes, we're doing 186 questions. And I was like, what?

[Shane]

100.

[Angela]

And she goes, questions? Have you heard of the 180. Oh, 183. One hundred and eighty three questions. And it's the. It's like this thing people use, and it's 183 questions to answer before getting hitched.

[Shane]

Whoa.

[Angela]

And listen, I know you're taking.

[Shane]

I feel like there's a new one of these every. Every day because I know Selena has The, like, the 36 questions to fall in love.

[Angela]

Yes. Yes. But this one is like. I thought this one was just fascinating because she said that they spent, like, two months every, like, a couple nights would sit with a couple of them, talk, and by the end, they finished.

[Shane]

And they got divorced.

[Angela]

And. And he walked and they broke up. No, but he. I. She wouldn't mind me talking about this. He was just slower, and she was more ready. And by the end, he just went, all right, I'm ready.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Angela]

And I asked her to send it to me.

[Shane]

That's.

[Angela]

Some of them are crazy.

[Shane]

Interesting. Yeah. I mean, hey, that makes a lot of sense because you do need to, like, be on the same. Same page.

[Angela]

Like some of these. There's a whole finances section.

[Shane]

Yeah. That makes sense.

[Angela]

It is kind of crazy that you could just get married to anybody.

[Shane]

It's true. I, I.

[Angela]

What schooling do you want for your kid?

[Shane]

Oh, when you get into kids. That's crazy.

[Angela]

Public school or if you had a kid right now. Public school or private?

[Shane]

Public.

[Angela]

Yeah. I don't fucking know. Now.

[Shane]

There's charter, there's charter, there's. There's Spectrum Internet, There's.

[Angela]

There's zoom, there's.

[Shane]

There's chat, GPT There's.

[Angela]

Yeah, you'll learn on chat. Gbt. Wait, so I'm finding some of these. Okay, okay.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Angela]

What's your biggest fear?

[Shane]

Oh, it's something like metaphorical, right? Or if that's anything you want, like. Like being like, failure, Public failure or just personal? I think maybe personal failure, like. Yeah, the insignificance.

[Angela]

Oof. Yeah. Like being forgotten.

[Shane]

Yeah, maybe that or. And definitely fear of letting people down. Fear of hurting people. Yeah, that's big.

[Angela]

Yeah, I have a fear of people.

[Shane]

Fear of people or fear of.

[Angela]

Yeah, no, I. I think if you're scared down. If you boil it down, I love people so much and I fear them as well.

[Shane]

I think I'm on the same page. I. Oh, I have some questions regarding this later. But, like, TikTok will occasionally throw some, like, therapy stuff at you.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

It'll be a person being like, do you feel this way about this stuff? Then you probably have this. And it's like, stop scrolling. And it was like, oh, do you view, like, hanging out with friends as, like, an obligation? Oh, yeah, you need to meet. And I'm like, yeah, you do. Oh, yeah.

[Angela]

Do you think that's cause of the job?

[Shane]

I think it's from performing for so long. I fear boring people. I fear annoying people and. And like, just wasting people's time. I'm like, oh, well, I don't want to hit them up because, like, I don't want to make them. They're. They're probably busy. They don't want to text me, you know, like, so then I end up not texting people and I'm like, oh, shit. Like, they think I don't like them.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

But it's because I'm afraid of, like.

[Angela]

Yes. Oh, no. I totally agree. Something I don't talk about a lot is that I fear one on one so hard.

[Shane]

It's really hard.

[Angela]

And like, it's always been a thing for me since I was a kid.

[Shane]

Group hangs or like, group situations are so much easier because you feel like you have fallback.

[Angela]

Or three.

[Shane]

Yeah, three is easy. Two people. It's. I'm like, fuck. Like, okay, so it's on me.

[Angela]

And I feel like I like, zone in on what that person wants and needs so much more than just being present.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

And I kind of just like. I don't know what it is.

[Shane]

Like, yeah, it's why I was. I've mentioned this a million times. It's why I was horrendous at dating.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Because I would go on a date. I'd go on a couple dates, and after a couple dates, I'd be like, I. I have not been myself at all in these dates. Like, I am so trying to just.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Say the right things and do the right things. That I don't even know if I like this person or not. Because I've been just. All I've been caring about is their approval.

[Angela]

Yes.

[Shane]

That I don't even know if we do vibe. Because I haven't been genuine. Like, I've been away. I've been lying to you this whole time because I'm putting on a performance.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And I can't. It's so hard to not do that. And that's why I think, you know, Courtney and I worked so well because we were in an environment for so long where we were just friends. And we were.

[Angela]

And it's just like, you don't have to force it.

[Shane]

Then it just kind of happens.

[Angela]

I mean, that's why I think I, like, some people rely on, like, some type of something because, like, I do love a glass of wine to get me to just, like. Like something like that. Or like, when I'm sick, I'm so tired that I can't think about the other person. I'm just thinking about getting through, like, just getting through this. Right. So I'm so better at. I'm so much better. Like, when I have just a little hindrance to get out of my head.

[Shane]

Totally.

[Angela]

But then you can't rely on that. You got to learn how to, like.

[Shane]

Right. Yeah. Because you can't do that forever. You can't do that in every situation. I was gonna change the subject really quick, please. To something a little more.

[Angela]

I'm scrolling through finance shit. I'm like, let's talk about mater.

[Shane]

Let's talk about finances. TikTok. I feel like, what is your, like, social media of choice? Oh, like what? Like, not that you like it or like, oh, this is the best one. What do you find yourself on?

[Angela]

A lot changes for sure. Right now. I am. I am a little bit on TikTok more.

[Shane]

Yeah. It's just so easy to pull up and just scroll.

[Angela]

Right. But Instagram is, like, the toxic one right. Where I, like, I need it. I check that all day.

[Shane]

See, I think Instagram, to me is, like, the least toxic to me sometimes.

[Angela]

Wow.

[Shane]

The way it affects me. Right. Noticed that all of them affect me in different ways. And I think they're all. I think all social media is toxic in some way or another. And I think, especially now, it's gotten so Algorithmic. The second algorithms became a thing with social media. It all went to right just cuz now you have an AI like going, oh, you like this stuff? So we're going to give you more.

[Angela]

Give it to you more.

[Shane]

You're not experiencing new things, you're just experiencing more of like a heightened and heightened version of what you were already going for.

[Angela]

Or like the act of boredom doesn't happen anymore because I'm being served something before I knew I needed it.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

And that's such a weird space, but.

[Shane]

TikTok is like an easy one to pull up. And what TikTok has just become is just discourse. It's just people telling. I realize I scroll and I'm like, oh, every single one is a variation of someone telling me something. I'm like, there's no longer like. And it's all critique of things. I'm like, you're not seeing anything original. You're just seeing critique of stuff.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And there's an interesting, I got served an interesting clip where this professor was talking about how like she's like, yeah, she's a literature professor and she's like, all my students are terrified of making stuff now because we're all terrified of being cringe because the Internet is just critiquing everything and telling like so all we're doing is critiquing stuff and not making stuff because it's easier to critique things. We have a million, we have an endless amount of critics, but nobody making original stuff.

[Angela]

That, that's pretty mind boggling. Like how most podcasts now are watch back podcasts.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

Instead of actually generating something and I.

[Shane]

Find myself watching reactionary stuff. It's fun to watch that stuff. But I realize sometimes I'm like, am I, how often am I actually ingesting original content? Or how much am I ingesting the echo of the reaction of the reaction of the reaction. And I'm like, God damn, what is my brain actually getting right now? And that's the same with what an algorith of is is. It's just kind of, it's just kind of a repeat situation. And I'm like, this is, this is not healthy for me. And I'm like, no wonder I sometimes feel like the. This past year or so I'm like, I really struggle with creativity.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I'm like, because I'm like, what am I? Because creativity is like an engine and you need like fuel for that. And fuel is original things.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And nothing's better than the real world and walking around. But it's, my brain's not even primed for that. Sometimes you walk around, it's hard. And I hear so much about how hard it is for everyone to focus nowadays. I'm like, yeah, because the world is telling us not to all the time.

[Angela]

Preach.

[Shane]

Yeah. I didn't mean for this to become a deep conversation like that. I meant to ask, like, my TikTok feed is always telling me stuff and it's always a very different thing.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And it switches up all the time.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And. But lately it's been one that I actually appreciate and I think has been good. I think I benefit from this one. And it's just been two.

[Angela]

And it's alpha male tiktoks and it's.

[Shane]

Alpha males and it's don't listen to women. No. It's suddenly been like, like fiber. That's what my TikTok feed is. It's just like, hey, fiber. You need to be eating fiber. And I was like, whoa. Had no idea.

[Angela]

Wait, that's so funny. My tik tok's going, it's your cortisol levels.

[Shane]

It's every now and then it's like, hey, man, I, I, I scroll right past the ones that I see are selling something.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

So I'm like, I don't trust you.

[Angela]

And that's almost everyone.

[Shane]

It's all selling you something. And that's why they're telling you. They're like, they're like, here's what you're doing wrong in the world. You're trying to sell me something. But a lot of it's like, like, hey, fiber. And for a while it was just chia seeds. And it was just tick tock being like, you need to be eating chia seeds every day. And it's like. And then it's like you get those and then you get followed up by a tick tock. That's like, be careful with your chia seeds. Make sure you're doing it right.

[Angela]

Guys, slow down on the cheesy.

[Shane]

And it's like, you need to soak your chia seeds. So you need to put them in water.

[Angela]

Oh, go yourself. You have to soak your seeds.

[Shane]

What are we doing? Because they expand.

[Angela]

What are we doing? It's God created a seed. We don't need to wash it.

[Shane]

It's like created chia. See God, they are beautiful as they are.

[Angela]

Don't you love it when you get a pack of lettuce and it was pre washed and they say pre washed three times. And I go, thank you.

[Shane]

Yeah, it Was pre washed. It was pre washed a month ago. And then it sat in this package.

[Angela]

Yeah. And I'm like, thank you so much. I'm not washing my seeds. How do you even wash a seed?

[Shane]

You don't wash them. You just put them like. So like you can make chia pudding, which I've been doing, See? So check this out. One cup, one cup of almond milk, Put it in a mason jar. Four cups of protein, a fourth, a cup or less of chia seeds. Throw that in there. A tablespoon of maple syrup and a teaspoon of vanilla extract. Stir that up, throw that in the fridge. Next day, it turns into like a pudding.

[Angela]

And what is that?

[Shane]

It's good for you.

[Angela]

No, but I mean, like, what is that? So. But actually, like, what is that? You know what I mean?

[Shane]

What is that? It's fiber. It's good for you.

[Angela]

It. See, you remember fiber? 1 bar.

[Shane]

I never really had them, but I. I feel like an old ass man that I went to the grocery store and I was like, what? Cereals are high in fiber?

[Angela]

Dude, you're getting so fucking old.

[Shane]

Okay?

[Angela]

You're washing your fucking seeds. God. Someone needs to take this guy on a walk.

[Shane]

Take him on a walk to the back of the barn.

[Angela]

You give me a podcast, Mike. And then because I'm watching so many fucking podcast clips. Lips. Then sometimes I'll. I'll see myself, like, go off.

[Shane]

Yeah, that's the thing that you do with podcasts. Okay.

[Angela]

But my. Okay, so I've gotten into something that I highly recommend for people, okay. My friend Kylie got me into it. She goes, I have a second Tick Tock account.

[Shane]

Oh.

[Angela]

And I go, what? She goes, it's my sleepy algorithm, okay. And it makes me sleepy, okay. And it's a bunch of stupid, boring. And she just scrolls through it and it puts her to bed.

[Shane]

That's pretty smart.

[Angela]

We're reinventing the lullaby, folks.

[Shane]

Do you are. Do you get into ASMR at all?

[Angela]

No.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

Why would I do that?

[Shane]

Some people are into it.

[Angela]

I'm getting. People are into it. I do like ASMR when it's with a visual.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

Sound isn't just good enough for me.

[Shane]

Sound, I realize, is not. So I. I don't. I, for the longest time thought I didn't get it at all. I think I get it with. But it's a very specific, weird thing. And I realized my entire life where I think I felt ASMR is when I get a stethoscope, when the doctor's like, putting it on your back. And they're like, all right, breathe in. Yeah, breathe out. And I, I like, for some reason that. And then I realized, like, there's a ton of ASMR people who are doing like, fake doctor stuff where they're like, all right, we're gonna measure your face. And. Okay. And we're gonna measure right here. And then there's this one that's really popular.

[Angela]

Wait, I'm obsessed with this.

[Shane]

I know. I'm like, wow, how specific they get. And then there's one that's really, really popular where they're like, okay, we're gonna do this test where we have this thing here. It's. It's got like a, like a wheel at the end that's got like, kind of like pointed ends. And it's like, all right, I'm gonna roll this on you. And then I also have this thing that's just like a cotton tipped swab. And I'm gonna press this on you and I'm gonna go back and forth, and you're telling me if it's sharp or dull. And so they'll just be like, all right. And here we go. And then they'll just be pressing it on a person and their eyes are closed and it's like, all right. And what's this? It's like, that's sharp. Dull. It's like, that's dull.

[Angela]

Soft.

[Shane]

Okay. Sharp. Dull. And honestly, I'm sorry, are you hearing.

[Angela]

Something different for dole and sharp?

[Shane]

You don't really hear anything. You're just watching this person, like, get this test done where it's not a real test, it's not a real doctor thing.

[Angela]

I know, but you're just hearing someone go, that's dull. That's sharp.

[Shane]

Yeah. I mean, they're saying, they're kind of like whispering. It's not like they're, they're like, yeah, it's sharp. Yeah, that one's dull.

[Angela]

Ouch.

[Shane]

That's got to be sharp. No, it's like, it's like, it's like tall, Sharp.

[Angela]

Tall. And you like that?

[Shane]

I don't, I like. It is a weird way to say it.

[Angela]

And you're sitting there with your grown man pudding watching that.

[Shane]

My grown man putting going like, oh, that one's sharp. No, I, I, I, it's not. I don't think I feel any asmr, but I'm kind of like mesmerized by it a little bit. But sometimes they get it wrong. Like, there's clearly parts on our body where we don't feel that well. Where they'll like, roll it against, like, like their temple and they'll be like, dull. And I'm like, that was sharp, you idiot. Like, I'm not into this. They're stupid. I'm just kidding. But then what I also, you know what I also get? You know what I also get that actually I like what. So a thing that's big in LA and you're not gonna be surprised by is Reiki healing.

[Angela]

Okay?

[Shane]

Now Reiki healing is. Some people are gonna be mad at me for saying this. Reiki healing is for rich people who have expendable money to throw at things that don't do anything.

[Angela]

A rich woman gave Spork A rich woman gave Spork Reiki healing once, and I'm 50%. I think it changed him. 50%. Think he was just a hug, you know, it was a hug.

[Shane]

I. Okay, I'm skeptical of it. I'm skeptical a lot of things.

[Angela]

I do kind of believe it.

[Shane]

People are allowed to. Hey, if someone says I believe in it, I'm not gonna say they're wrong. Good. I don't personally believe good trained Internet boy, but I will come across reiki healing on TikTok, and I love that shit because it'll be like this, this, this like Australian man who looks like Jesus, and he'll be like. He'll be like, if this video has found you, it means you have, like some negative energy that I'm going to purge. And he's got, he's got like a crystal. He's like, he's like, here we go. And then he's like. And I'm, I'm sitting there like, yeah, well, I mean, he's. I have to watch this because if I have negative energy, he's going to take care of it. And I'm like, I'm skeptical. But hey, if I me, maybe he's right. You lose nothing, I lose nothing. I only stand to gain something.

[Angela]

You're sitting there with your cup of seeds. Just sit there, get your energy.

[Shane]

That's also how I view because the Internet is filled with misinformation, right? That I gauge that most things I'm getting served are misinformation. So as long as I'm like, okay, if I buy into this misinformation, as long as I'm not hurting anyone and I don't get harmed, you don't lose anything, then I'm like, okay, I'm willing to play along. Like fiber, right? I'm like, I know, I know. It's healthy. I knew that before.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

But I'm like, okay, that's not bad advice to get that I need to eat more fiber. But also if, like, a guy's like, hey, I'm going to heal you really quick with this crystal right now. I'm like, like, I don't believe you, but sure, why not? Hey, why not?

[Angela]

Yeah, there's some witches. There's like, witches on Etsy that you can, like, buy a spell and then you have to put something down. Right. But if I'm just watching and they're like, stay on here so your day can be blessed tomorrow. Yeah, I'll buy it.

[Shane]

Because then there's misinformation. That's 90% of the misinformation is bad, and it leads to bad things. And it's like, hey, believe this about the world. And I'm like, no, man. Like, you're like, I lose a lot. Let's read some books and. And back this up. Yeah, but okay, wait, really quickly.

[Angela]

Do you mind if I go back to Chia See it?

[Shane]

All right, we'll go back to Chia.

[Angela]

See, just really quick. You called that pudding?

[Shane]

It's chia pudding.

[Angela]

I'd say because it was in the morning, I'd call that oatmeal.

[Shane]

It's not oatmeal. There's no oats in it.

[Angela]

I'd say pudding is for the evening. Oatmeal is for the morning.

[Shane]

You think pudding is for the evening? You also thought yogurt was yellow, right? Or pink?

[Angela]

I think most yogurts are pink. But I want to go back to this really quickly.

[Shane]

That's the wild. That's wrong.

[Angela]

I think cake.

[Shane]

Definitively wrong. You think cake.

[Angela]

I want cake.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Angela]

Is morning pancakes, and that's cake.

[Shane]

Right.

[Angela]

Go with me.

[Shane]

Sorry, Sorry. What? You think cake?

[Angela]

I think I have this on my phone somewhere. I've been thinking about it for a while. I think pancakes. Pancakes are breakfast cake. That's it.

[Shane]

The other pancakes. Yeah, Cake is.

[Angela]

And I think oatmeal is breakfast pudding. Nope. Nope. Yeah. Pudding for dinner. Oh.

[Shane]

I don't see in any way how oatmeal is pudding. There is. The texture is completely different.

[Angela]

I just think those are. Hold on. Let me figure this out. A cookie.

[Shane]

A cookie.

[Angela]

Breakfast biscuit.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Angela]

Just different times of the day.

[Shane]

Okay. I mean. Yeah, well, in. In many parts of the world, they. That. That is a biscuit. Right.

[Angela]

French toast.

[Shane]

Okay. What are we going with this?

[Angela]

I think they all are the same. Just time of day. Acai bowl is breakfast. Ice cream.

[Shane]

I would. Okay. I would argue an acai bowl is closer to a smoothie than ice cream.

[Angela]

If it's in a bowl, I think it's ice cream.

[Shane]

So if you dumped a smoothie into a bowl, it's now ice cream?

[Angela]

Yes. At night.

[Shane]

But a smoothie doesn't have a smoothie.

[Angela]

I lost ya. I was doing so well.

[Shane]

This whole thing's fucked.

[Angela]

And I was like, ooh, this will be fun. I could bring up my whole theory about pancakes and cakes. Yeah.

[Shane]

I mean, pancakes are technically a type of cake. It's pancakes.

[Angela]

So then what's the bagel for the evening?

[Shane]

A bagel for the evening. I mean, bagel for the evening. I don't know. A bagel.

[Angela]

Bagels. A bagel for the evening.

[Shane]

You can have bagels at any time of the day.

[Angela]

Is the bread basket.

[Shane]

What? A bread basket.

[Angela]

What is the steak for the morning?

[Shane]

Steak for the morning. Steak and eggs. Steak.

[Angela]

A sausage breakfast. Sausage.

[Shane]

That's pork. Pork or chicken or turkey.

[Angela]

Yes, it's. You're going literally beef. I'm like, let go. Let go. Like, really thinking of theory. Like, what is the vibe?

[Shane]

Stop. Okay. You're just talking about vibes here. All right? You're just. They're equivalents. Yeah. He likes. He, like, sucks the energy, and then he, like, does this, and it's that part that is kind of, like, weirdly satisfying. It's like, oh, you're grabbing energy, and then you're, like, just, like, kind of dusting it off.

[Angela]

Putt, pull.

[Shane]

I like it. And then there's some Reiki girls who have these, like, weird sticks of gems, and they're, like, tapping them together, and I'm like, this is working.

[Angela]

I gave. Yeah. My friend. My rich friend took care of Spork one day. This was so long ago. And I came back, and she was like. He was a little anxious, so I gave him a whole Raiki treatment. And then he's looking at me like.

[Shane]

He's like, hello, Angela.

[Angela]

And he's drenched in lavender. I was like, you smell amazing, dude.

[Shane]

Damn.

[Angela]

And she goes, he really responded well. Or like, I used to, when I was a dog walker, would drop off dogs for acupuncture in Brentwood.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Angela]

And I was like, my God, this dog's getting better treatment than I.

[Shane]

Some dogs. Oh, do you get. Do you ever get served the things where people are, like, putting out the. A meal for a dog, and it's like, all these organic, crazy ingredients, and it's truly. It's truly like, a hundred dollars worth of stuff. Or it's like an entire chicken. Like an entire whole chicken to, like, quail eggs, like, tomato, and then, like, all these powders and stuff, and I'm like, this dog is playing in the NFL.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Like, oh, my God.

[Angela]

Overnight oats is oatmeal.

[Shane]

Yeah. Literally, overnight oats is oatmeal.

[Angela]

But then why. Why does it say overnight oats and not oatmeal?

[Shane]

What? It's just what I'm asking.

[Angela]

What overnight oats are overnight oats. And what's the difference between that and oatmeal?

[Shane]

It's overnight oatmeal. It's. It's. It's oatmeal.

[Angela]

But what is the difference? There's. There has to be a difference.

[Shane]

There's literally no difference.

[Angela]

Overnight meal is hot. Overnight oats are cold. Right.

[Shane]

Overnight oats are not cold.

[Angela]

What is overnight oats?

[Shane]

Overnight oats is when you. You can make it in a crock pot. Right. Is that my. Am I wrong here?

[Angela]

I thought overnight oats is chia pudding. Overnight oats you put in the fridge.

[Shane]

Oh, you do put in the fridge. Okay. But that's still there.

[Angela]

Fuck you.

[Shane]

So there I'm right about everything that we just talked about.

[Angela]

We did all 83 questions.

[Shane]

So there we go. All misinformation is good. No, just kidding. By the way, I just want to. I go back. I feel like I said it, but misinformation is bad.

[Angela]

Misinformation is very bad.

[Shane]

Let me say that misinformation is bad. In no way was I saying that any information is good.

[Angela]

Yeah, no, you're.

[Shane]

There's some. Where I just go, okay, I'm gonna allow this for right now.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

But then I'm gonna wipe.

[Angela]

But it's what you said, I think is really important, where it's like, looking at our Internet, like, activity and seeing, am I losing something when I take part in this? Does that make sense? Like, yeah, because there's so like.

[Shane]

Or does it. Does it lead to an action? I think if social media is telling you something that leads to an action in your life, you need to really be scrutinizing it and know that your. Your feed is telling you things that it thinks you like, and it'll keep telling you, so it'll feel like the whole Internet's agreeing. Yeah, but it's just your little corner, and that's how people end up with these twisted mindsets.

[Angela]

I even go that way with Instagram, where I'll see, like, someone will do something out of the story or someone won't repost a story. I tagged them in and I go like. And I'm like, oh, are they mad at. And I'm like, nothing really just happened. I was just here. There was no action that actually happened. But I was just like. Sometimes it's so hard not to like, give it so much weight because it is interaction with your a human.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

But it also isn't.

[Shane]

I don't know. I know. It messes me up. It messes me up. And then Reddit depresses the shit out of me when I did.

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[Shane]

Go on Reddit too much. I'm like, oh, man, everything's really bad.

[Angela]

Okay, you're in line for your coffee. What's your scroll like?

[Shane]

Like, unfortunately, sometimes it's Reddit because, like, it's. It's just articles and just like it goes all over the place.

[Angela]

Was it Twitter before it was Twitt.

[Shane]

And I refuse to go on Twitter. I hate, I hate it there.

[Angela]

It was nice when it, like, I feel like Twitter was what Twitter was. Yeah.

[Shane]

I had curate. Sorry to interrupt. I had curated my Twitter account years ago to be so funny. And it was just comedians posting dumbass jokes. And I would go there and I'd be laughing my ass off. And I know it can still be that, but I can't support it.

[Angela]

It's so.

[Shane]

And it's got. It just got really bad and it's really negative. And there's a lot in the world to critique in a fair way. I think Twitter is often just feels like, just really. It's just bad. Took a turn also like Twitter, I felt. I was like, I'm seeing people say words that I thought we put in the closet forever ago. I was like, God damn, Twitter got.

[Angela]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane]

Like, what the hell? And it's. I'm like, people that I thought were like, people are thinking it's good. Like in some ways. And I'm just like, guys, stop. Like, what the hell? We gotta get. This is what Internet does.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Is like it. It becomes your reality and it affirms things that you should, like, take a step back and go, wait, what's the real world?

[Angela]

Can you curate Reddit? Does it have an algorithm?

[Shane]

Yes. Yes, you can. So you subscribe to different subreddits.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And you can only get those subreddits. You can make it very positive. Reddit can be kind of anything, but even still, it's communities. Right. And I just find, looking through comments, I just feel like the top comments a lot are just always like, oh, yeah, the world's awful and everyone's bad. Yeah, it's like, all right.

[Angela]

Like, all right, I need to take.

[Shane]

A step back sometimes.

[Angela]

Yeah. It's interesting, though, because if I'm, like, waiting for my coffee, I need visual. Like, I don't want to read. Like, I have to, like, kind of sit if I want to read.

[Shane]

My Instagram for you page is actually the most positive out of all of them because it's just fashion stuff. Oh, no. It's kind of shopping esque, which I'm also like, this isn't great that it's. You can add to cart, but I'm like, okay. Like, it's kind of almost a Pinterest board of men's fashion.

[Angela]

That's. That's using it in a great way.

[Shane]

Yeah. And so that's probably the positive one. I try to now sometimes just be like, do I need to get on my phone? Like, I'm waiting in line. Fifteen years ago, I would have just been here, but now I'm finding that I'm like, similar to what you were talking about with having a drink to be able to talk to someone. I'm like, can I literally not be bored? Can I literally not sit still anymore? And I'm like, that can't be good.

[Angela]

It's so terrifying.

[Shane]

Hard as hell, though. I did so hard.

[Angela]

I did a dropout show yesterday where we couldn't have your phone, and I had to sit, and it was like, so it's crazy that something that should be so simple, which is just sitting with your thoughts, has now become a battlefield because I've let in so many other quick.

[Shane]

Like, I know. I know. I'm the same way. My brain moves way too fast, and it's. But I find it going slower when I. I actually go a couple weeks with, like, I have a timer on my phone now for things, but I often don't listen to it. It's like, hey, your time's up. And I'm like, yeah, right. It is.

[Angela]

Yeah, right, it is.

[Shane]

I'm asking for 15 more minutes. And I'm gonna ask for 15 more minutes after that.

[Angela]

Oh, my God. I wanted to tell you this morning. It happened. My alarm clock alarm.

[Shane]

And did you watch an ad?

[Angela]

Yeah. But now they got me answering questions.

[Shane]

What?

[Angela]

I was gonna screenshot it, but I was half asleep. But I remember going, oh, I gotta tell Shane this. But it was like, which one of these brands do you use? And I like, was like, none of them. I. I was doing, like, literally surveys.

[Shane]

Can I tell you, this is a. That is a scene straight out of Blade Runner. That is some dystopian right there that you wake up. You wake up in order to sleep. You need to watch an ad and ask questions.

[Angela]

Yeah. If you guys haven't heard this, I have this intense alarm that will. That will change the sound every day and then also make me fill out memory me. Like, what is it? It'll show me, like, puzzle. A little puzzle. It'll show. I used to do math. Had to stop doing that. But I can do little puzzles. And it gets me to wake up faster because I just get.

[Shane]

I don't let corporate America attack me first thing in the morning. I will not do math.

[Angela]

I'll take all the surveys you want, but I ain't adding or subtracting.

[Shane]

I wake up and immediately tell you what detergent I like, but I am not doing long division skin off my back for that.

[Angela]

Literally. It showed me this morning. It was like, I want. Only when I asked a snooze. Only when you asked a snooze does it make you do work.

[Shane]

That's crazy, dude. And this sounds like. Hell, no.

[Angela]

I. Oh, God. It gets me up. It gets me.

[Shane]

Yeah, of course it does.

[Angela]

What sound do you. You're not like a wake up before your alarm.

[Shane]

I do wake up before my alarm. I wake up before my alarm.

[Angela]

God, you are a mystery to me. I am so far from you, it's crazy.

[Shane]

What time do you go to bed?

[Angela]

Like, when caffeine goes through your body? I think it's like one pipe.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

And my.

[Shane]

I've got a special organ called caffeine.

[Angela]

Organ up my arm and goes.

[Shane]

You're a giant silly straw.

[Angela]

Literally. And you're just like, tank, tank.

[Shane]

It's because of all the fiber I have. It's those chia seeds. They're. They're managing it.

[Angela]

Cup of seeds.

[Shane]

Yeah. It's that old man pudding. I mean, disgusting. Yeah. What time do you go to bed?

[Angela]

Different every night.

[Shane]

That's why.

[Angela]

Are you kidding?

[Shane]

Sleep schedule. You have a bedtime sleep schedule. I just like. I'M in bed by a certain time and I'm falling generally like a window.

[Angela]

I have a window during shoot weeks. Non shoot weeks. I don't have a window.

[Shane]

Oh, okay. Like weekends, you're up a little bit later, that's fine.

[Angela]

But you're. Do you set an alarm?

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

Okay.

[Shane]

I also think like, I think what I've heard is like, oh, if you need to start like going to bed at a certain time, like it's easier to just wake up earlier and then you'll be tired that night. Yes, but, but I need my alarm for that.

[Angela]

I love waking up earlier.

[Shane]

I plenty of times use my alarm and I wake up from my alarm. But I, A lot of times I do wake up before it. Yeah, but you know, I wake up and go to the gym. But like today I set an alarm for 5:45 and I woke up at 5:30.

[Angela]

You're a special breed.

[Shane]

Once you get, you get used to it. Yeah, because I used to not be able to wake up at 5:30.

[Angela]

I mean no matter what, I'm up early.

[Shane]

Totally. Like if I don't have an alarm, usually we're here by 8am which means we're usually all waking up by 5:36.

[Angela]

Like on Saturdays I will wake up like at 7 or 6. And then I sleepy. I'll go get back on there.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Angela]

And I turn my brain off and.

[Shane]

Go back to sleep.

[Angela]

I try to.

[Shane]

Oh, see, I love like on a weekend, waking up super early is awesome.

[Angela]

Awesome.

[Shane]

It's the best.

[Angela]

Getting a lot of nods. A lot of nods.

[Shane]

Favorite time of day. No, truly. Waking up at like 5:30 in the morning. If I wake up at 5:30 on a Saturday. Yeah. Cause check this out. I wake up at 5:30 in the morning. I feel good. If I feel good, I'm like, oh, extra awesome. I go down. I'm like, this is. I'm like, the sun's not even fully up yet. I'm like, nobody's up. The world is not moving. This is free time. It's as if like this doesn't count.

[Angela]

No, but there's only boring people around you.

[Shane]

What are you talking about?

[Angela]

I'm not sick as hell. People are asleep.

[Shane]

I'm not going out. I'm staying in.

[Angela]

You're right, you're right, you're right.

[Shane]

And I'm like, oh, playing a video game, low volume. Or like watching a TV show or reading a book first thing early in the morning is incredible. And what's great is like I have cats and cats are always up oh, but they're. They're up. But this is like 5am to 7am is when cats are up, but they're not doing crazy stuff. They're just kind of up and kind of hanging out.

[Angela]

So they're being adults.

[Shane]

I sometimes, like, I'll wake up up and I'll. I'll go down and like on my couch, my cats are just chilling there. Just like up, but just like kind of sitting. And I'll sit down and play video games and they'll just be like, chilling, just like hanging out. I'm like, this is awesome. Like this, this time doesn't count.

[Angela]

Oh, my God.

[Shane]

Cuz like, cuz like 8am, 9am rolls around, it's like, okay, what am I doing now?

[Angela]

You're up with America, but you're looking at the market.

[Shane]

5Am doesn't matter. It's like nobody can judge me for what I do at 5am because nobody's up.

[Angela]

They don't like bonus time to you.

[Shane]

That's what it feels like.

[Angela]

Wow. Can I ask you a question about your guys cats?

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

My parents are having a crazy thing with this cat. I rescued them a cat two years ago, and the cat is now her name is Pino. She is. My mother named her and. You're kidding. Not kidding. Pino is. Do your cats kind of play sides with you and Courtney? Because Pino is doing this thing where Pino in front of my mom is my mom's number one.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

And then the second my mom closes her eyes, Pino will go to my dad.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Angela]

But if my mom wakes up, Pino's like, I'm not friends with him.

[Shane]

Whoa.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Our cats don't do anything that extreme. I mean, Birdie definitely likes Courtney more. I think both of them love Courtney. Bones annoys me the most. Like, he knows, like, I will mess with him and play with him a lot. So he will come to me and he'll be meowing at me a lot. They have different schedules, though. Like in the afternoon, I feel like they want to, like, be around Courtney more. And in the morning, every morning, like 5am or even earlier, like 3 to 5am he gets up in bed with me and he wants to, like, be.

[Angela]

A little spoon at your core. Are you a dog or cat person?

[Shane]

I think I'm both, man. I've had. I had both growing up. I love them both. I like kind of like all animals. My take is like, I can talk as much shit as I want because there's certain breeds of dogs. I'm like, oh, Little dogs. Like, I'm not into little dogs. I'm like, if. If I had a little dog, I would then love it.

[Angela]

I was a big dog person. All my. Like, I just loved big dogs, and I never wanted a small dog.

[Shane]

They're all great.

[Angela]

It's crazy how it just happens.

[Shane]

I like them all. Like, and it also depends on the individual animal. Like, some dogs suck, some cats suck. And then you meet, like. Like, growing up, I was like, oh, Chihuahuas. Because we were in the era where there was just Chihuahuas everywhere.

[Angela]

Yeah. And they were all shitty.

[Shane]

And because they were po. Poorly trained. Right. Because people just got him. Because it was a fad.

[Angela]

But, like, they're a Taco Bell Chihuahua, too.

[Shane]

Yeah, man. No, the early 2000s, it was Chihuahua central. There was movies about Chihuahuas.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

But I hated them when I was a kid. Sounds like they're annoying. They're not friendly. They're just barking. But then, like, over the years, I've met some Chihuahuas that are amazing.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I'm like, whoa.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

This is the best dog I've ever met in my life.

[Angela]

Trying to think of now all the corporate dogs. There's the. That. That Bullseye target dog.

[Shane]

He's not around anymore.

[Angela]

He went.

[Shane]

They got rid of him.

[Angela]

Him.

[Shane]

The Taco Bell Chihuahua got rid of him too.

[Angela]

Wasn't there? They all went out of work or they just died.

[Shane]

Well, I'm assuming it was multiple dogs.

[Angela]

Twins.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Angela]

What are other dogs that were like.

[Shane]

That were big symbols, like corporate dogs? I think those were the two big ones. And they're no longer in business.

[Angela]

Have you heard the whole theory that all these food chains are now making their. Their slogans less about food and more just like, life advice?

[Shane]

Yeah. So that's a big live mod. That's an algorithmic thing.

[Angela]

Really?

[Shane]

That's an algorithmic. What do you mean it's an algorithm thing? It's because it's a matter of, like, they want them to have a personality. They want them to be, like, humanified so that, like, oh, I love this brand. Like, I love, like, its personality and stuff that's wild. And also, once again, take. Don't take my word fully for this, but there's a. Oh, God. There's a book that I read by. The author's name is Kyle Chayka, and it's called Filter World. And it's a book all about, like, how the premise, the essay of the book, is how algorithms flatten culture. And he talks. The big example that you can all see is coffee shops Coffee shops in the 90s all had personalities, and now they're all these slate gray, like, blank things. And he's also talking about with bookshops. He's like, sometimes it's a good thing, right? Like, indie bookshops have had a big rise in the past few years, but it's not about like, oh, is this bookshop good? Do they. Is there inventory? Whatever. It's the personality of the bookshop. And so that's. Everything needs to have a social media presence, that it doesn't matter in real life what you are, what you do, how good the business is. It's your social media presence. It's. It's what. How people read, the personality of it.

[Angela]

That's interesting, because I thought with stores, it was just like a. A style thing where I remember everything shifted to min. Minimalism. And the Apple Store. I remember the first time I ever went in the Apple Store, I was like, oh, my God, there's just tables with nothing on it.

[Shane]

The Millennial Gray. Yeah, the Millennial. Because it, like, 2010, you started to see, like, everything. All color went away, all design went away.

[Angela]

But then maximalism is kind of back.

[Shane]

I hope it comes back, man.

[Angela]

It is like TGI Fridays aesthetic. It's kind of. I mean, look around.

[Shane]

I just want, like, uniqueness. I don't want it to all be the same, though, because what I think.

[Angela]

We'Re getting cool, like, having individual, like, gallery walls are like, they've been bad.

[Shane]

Right, right. We're talking about maximalism. But I'm. I'm. I'm saying, yeah, I'm down for it. I'm down for anything, but I don't want them to all do the same thing. Yeah, right. Cause that's what we're seeing now, and that's algorithmic, is that it's like, oh, but this is what people want, this is what's selling, and this is what the Internet wants. So we're all gonna do this now, and I just don't want to see all the same. Cause that's what happened with the Millennial Gray is that everything looked the same.

[Angela]

Yes. Yes.

[Shane]

And so I'm like, I'm down for maximalism. I'm also down for just every place that you walk into to be a different vibe.

[Angela]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And you get that with indie stuff, like small businesses and things, but you.

[Angela]

Don'T get that with big chains.

[Shane]

But I'm like, if all of them just start doing the same exact thing.

[Angela]

But I couldn't read a book like that. It would rip me a New asshole. Like, sometimes I need a little. I need a little bit of ignorance. Bless.

[Shane]

Yeah. It was a fascinating book. I highly recommend it because what I've said today, I'm sure I'm sort of wrong about some things, but Filter World, one of my favorite books I've read this year. Really awesome.

[Angela]

Next to a new car, I'm also looking really quick. I'm also looking for some new music. Do you. Are you listening to music or are you out of it?

[Shane]

I have not been listening to a lot of new music lately. I've fallen off my album a week thing. I need to get back on it. Courtney's been listening to some incredible stuff and I feel like I just hear it by proxy.

[Angela]

Having a partner that's like a music guru is so helpful.

[Shane]

What is it, Marina? Is that. Yeah, that shit rocks.

[Angela]

Fuck. Yeah.

[Shane]

There's just so much good stuff.

[Angela]

There's so much stuff.

[Shane]

But anyways, we are. Are overtime.

[Angela]

We're. I'm just. I'm just.

[Shane]

Dude, we were just. I was thinking this was going to be like more laughter, fun time. We. We.

[Angela]

Sorry.

[Shane]

Some serious. No, that's how it goes. That's how it goes, bro.

[Angela]

Dude, it's how it goes.

[Shane]

But I'm excited for these next few weeks.

[Angela]

We're gonna do some silly shit, the shit we have planned. I'm really so.

[Shane]

I'm really pumped. It's gonna be a great time. I wonder if Amanda's gonna watch these episodes. That. That adds pressure.

[Angela]

That's really sweet. I hope she does. Let's say something like, so we'll know if she did or not.

[Shane]

Yeah. Amanda, if you watch this, text us potato, potato.

[Angela]

And it's gonna look bad if you don't, babe.

[Shane]

It's gonna be really cringe, cuz, like, what are you doing?

[Angela]

Like.

[Shane]

Like, what are you up to?

[Angela]

Just be on YouTube right now. I don't know what else you could be doing.

[Shane]

I'm sorry. Sorry. You've got time.

[Angela]

Potato.

[Shane]

All right. Thank you guys for watching. Well, hey, we'll be here next week.

[Angela]

That's so fun.

[Shane]

Sick, dude.

[Angela]

Bye.

[Shane]

Bye.