#115 - The Damien And Shayne Show

Summary

Smosh Mouth Episode #115 - The Damien And Shayne Show

Date: October 20, 2025
Hosts: Shayne Topp & Damien Haas

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Episode Overview

This episode of Smosh Mouth is a classic “Damien and Shayne show,” featuring just the two long-time friends and collaborators riffing on everything from inside jokes and life as performers, to wild podcast tangents about cats, gym etiquette, and their enduring video game obsessions. The energy is playful and deeply nostalgic, packed with stories from their shared past and the peculiar world of internet fandoms.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. The Booster Gold Fan Campaign & Imposter Syndrome

(00:49–05:15)

• Booster Gold Casting Campaign: Shayne addresses the ongoing online campaign (especially on TikTok) lobbying for him to be cast as DC superhero Booster Gold.
• Damien is fully supportive, saying, “For me, so serious, not a joke at all. I really think you could do it and should do it.” (01:55)
• Shayne’s Approach: He’s flattered, but unsure about publicly campaigning for a role:

  “I don’t want to be the type, like, online being like, ‘cast me.’ But I'm like, hey, I'd love to audition. I absolutely, of course, would.” (02:11)

• Imposter Syndrome: Shayne admits to feeling impostor syndrome, while Damien encourages him to “just grab it.”

Memorable quote:
Damien: “Just be the Jack Reacher and just grab… you’re right there.” (04:43)

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2. TNTL ("Try Not To Laugh") Behind the Scenes & Viral Podcast Moments

(06:05–10:01)

• Recap of a chaotic TNTL taping, including unscheduled guests, and orchestrated chaos turning into viral content.
• Jonathan’s crinkling wrappers and ringtone interruption make for accidental comedy gold:

  Shayne: “Jonathan, you just gave us another Million View Short.” (06:45)

• Discuss how some spontaneous bits become sleeper hits online.

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3. Smosh Cast Talents and Alternative Realities

(05:15–05:51, 14:10–14:26)

• Praising castmates’ diverse talents—Trevor as a pro-caliber athlete, Amanda as a would-be TV detective.
• Noting how much talent is “packed into this place.”

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4. Law & Order, TV Parents, and Relatable Nostalgia

(09:08–10:01)

• Brief discussion on Law & Order, Mariska Hargitay, and how their audience isn’t quite the TV procedural demographic.
• Nostalgia about parents watching procedurals for a “resolved by the hour” comfort.

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5. Worst Sounds & Audio Sensitivities

(13:04–24:07)

• Deep dive into personal “worst sounds”:
  • Unwrapping food on mic
  • Gum chewing and food smacking
  • Neighbors making weird noises (e.g., yelling "Matt" at night)
  • Honking cars in LA
• Shayne’s story about his grandpa’s peppermint habit and his mom’s annoyance.
• Damien: “I’m very sensitive to sound, and it’s a blessing and a curse.” (19:51)
• Jokes about growing up in apartments and bizarre neighbor behavior.

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6. Living with Pets: Personalities, Nicknames, and Supernatural Tendencies

(31:01–40:04)

• Comparing their two-cat households: each has a “person” cat and an “animal” cat.
• “Freya is a person. Zelda is just fat as a sow and full of chaos.” — Damien (31:12)
• Elaborate on pet nicknames:
  • Zelda = “piss whale” (31:51)
  • Shayne's Bones = “a man,” not an animal.
• Haunted Cat Story: Birdie acts strange with inherited toy mice, prompting haunted house jokes.
• Cats’ responses to being addressed like people, holiday gag ("It's Christmas!”), and pet manipulation for food.

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7. Gym Culture, Shame, and Other People's Opinions

(26:31–28:23)

• Admiring people at the gym who exercise without self-consciousness—even when doing outrageous Cirque du Soleil tricks.
• Discussing online comments shaming people for odd gym routines, and how to reframe it as admirable.

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8. Stardew Valley, Video Game Achievements, and Gaming Nostalgia

(40:04–44:48, 51:12–54:54)

• Revisiting the infamous moment Shayne “threw away” Damien’s golden cat in Stardew Valley (an expensive in-game item), and the fanbase’s lasting outrage.
• Shayne finally achieves the golden cat on his own game after years (42:03).
• Reminiscing about periods of life consumed by specific games—Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros.—and the inexorable rise of younger, faster “nephews” overtaking them in skill.
• Lamenting how easy “looking up answers online” has made puzzle games, missing the days of huge game guides and scribbled notes.

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9. Inside Jokes: History, Origins, and Explainers

(60:30–71:13)

• Breaking down the origins of several of their signature bits:
  • “Stay fresh, homie, get paid” — from “Buzzin” (61:03)
  • “You need more training” — anime riff, later a T-shirt (62:29)
  • “Buy me In-N-Out” — started as roommate shorthand, now a personal catchphrase (68:14)
  • “Happy birthday Steven” — a bizarre image of an 80s party for a blank-faced kid (69:10)
  • “Pepper” — an in-joke referenced cryptically (“If you’re not understanding, you’re just not thinking about it.” (70:12))
• Mario Party and Smash Bros. rage and heartbreak, and endless riffing on in-game moments.
• Tilda Swinton & “We Need to Talk About Kevin” as repeated punchlines.
• “Hereditary” movie: how turning trauma into comedy became a method for coping.

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10. Friendship, Childhood, and Sharing Hobbies

(44:48–47:46)

• Discuss the sweetness of introducing friends and children to interests with genuine enthusiasm.
  • “Showing interest in someone else’s interest is probably the kindest thing you can do.” — Shayne (45:30)
• Reminiscing about connecting with kids over Pokémon, Mario, or Bakugan.

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11. Gaming Updates and Recommendations

(51:12–56:24)

• Damien shares he’s playing Silksong and Damon X Machina: Titanic Scion.
• Conversation about the challenge/tedium balance in platformers (Silksong's difficulty).
• Rhapsodizing about the mystery game Blueprints and the satisfaction of taking notes together, resisting the urge to Google solutions.

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12. The Power of Riffs, Parallel Thinking & Creative Anxiety

(66:58–68:09)

• On creative work, jokes “you think are original” but later realize might not be, leading to constant mild anxiety.
• Shayne: “Nothing’s original… I’m trying to make my own twist on it.” (67:41)
• Dream story: Damien fretting that dream-Shayne is mad at him for overlap.

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13. Preview: Upcoming Pokémon Episode & Smosh Lore

(59:32–60:11)

• Teaser for an all-Pokémon episode with Tommy, connecting back to Smosh’s YouTube roots.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Damien: “For me, so serious, not a joke at all. I really think you could do it and should do it.” (01:55)
• Damien: “Just be the Jack Reacher and just grab… you’re right there.” (04:43)
• Shayne: “Jonathan, you just gave us another Million View Short.” (06:45)
• Damien: “Showing interest in someone else’s interest is probably the kindest thing you can do.” (45:30)
• Shayne: “You need more training dot com.” (62:57)
• Damien: “Pepper… if you’re not understanding, you’re just not thinking about it.” (70:12)
• Joking about pet names: “Sometimes Zelda walks by and like, oh, it’s the piss whale.” (31:51)
• Shayne on haunted cats: “We joke about Birdie maybe being haunted.” (33:54)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:49 – Booster Gold campaign/Imposter syndrome
• 06:05 – TNTL chaos & accidental viral moments
• 13:04 – Worst sounds
• 31:01 – Pet personalities and nicknames
• 40:04 – Stardew Valley/gaming nostalgia
• 44:48 – The kindness of sharing interests
• 51:12 – Silksong, Blueprints, and game challenge talk
• 60:30 – Inside jokes explained: origins and riffing
• 59:32/60:11 – Pokémon episode tease

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Tone & Style

The conversation is irreverent, rapid, and laced with in-jokes, playful self-deprecation, and the earnest camaraderie of old friends. Frequent detours into nostalgia, tangents about their creative anxieties, and absurd storytelling give the episode a welcoming, chaotic warmth representative of Smosh’s ethos.

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Summary

If you love Smosh’s signature blend of “dumb ideas” and behind-the-scenes warmth, this episode is jam-packed with inside jokes explained (“Pepper,” anyone?), deep dives into creative fears, runaway fandom stories (Booster Gold!), and the celebration of shared, sometimes goofy passions—video games, cats, and bits that have survived over a decade. It’s a Smosh core memory lane, ideal for fans who want to feel like they’re in the room for every laugh.

Transcript

[A]

Hi, welcome to Smosh Mouth. I'm Shane.

[B]

And I'm Damien Haas. The one that's not Shane joining us today is no one.

[A]

Is no one. Because it's just Damien and I.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Welcome to the Damien and Shane show again.

[B]

Yep. We're back.

[A]

We're back.

[B]

Today we're playing divekick again.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

God, those were the days.

[A]

Ah, jeez. For anyone who doesn't know divekick, it's a game where you can dive and you can kick.

[B]

That's the only two options.

[A]

I think I beat Damian one time out of 10.

[B]

I think with dive kick, you were pretty good. I remember you and I being pretty evenly matched.

[A]

Yeah. I guess I'm thinking of what's hog nidhogg that I never could beat you at.

[B]

But you know what? You beat me at so many other things.

[A]

I don't know if that's true.

[B]

You do you.

[A]

When it comes to games. I don't know games.

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, no.

[A]

You got a podcast.

[B]

You're married. Everyone wants you to be Booster Gold. Me included.

[A]

Oh, God.

[B]

Have you addressed that on the podcast?

[A]

I have not addressed. So I forgot that that's been a thing for, like, a while. Like, off and on. On the Internet, there's a clip from like, a year ago of me, like, offhandedly talking about it with Spencer. But then these, like, like a month ago, it. As of this airing, it, like, became a big thing on TikTok for a bit. Yeah.

[B]

For anyone who's not familiar, there is a campaign across all social platforms to. There's a fan cast of Shane being the DC hero. Is it Booster Gold?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Can I be honest with you?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For most of those, I like them. And sometimes more than that, I'll comment and be like, yes, I agree.

[A]

Make this happen.

[B]

My hope is that people take that and run with it and they're like, see? See?

[A]

And you tag James Gunn.

[B]

I. You know what? I'll call in that favor.

[A]

It's. It's. It's definitely funny. Look, I mean, I'm honored. I can't tell where it's a joke and where it's serious.

[B]

I can tell you, for me, so serious, not a joke at all.

[A]

Thanks, man.

[B]

I really think you could do it and should do it.

[A]

I would. Look, when people are like, shane, do this, I'm like. Like, I would turn it down. Like, I'm like, no, dude, no, thanks.

[B]

You know, be crazy if you just even tweeted at James Gunn and be like, hey, man, I'll at least read for it. Like, that would be enough to like. Oh, you could play it off as a joke, but it would also open the door.

[A]

Yeah, I guess it's like, it's a weird place because I don't want to be the type, like, online being like, cast me. Like, you know, I. But I'm like, hey, I love to audition. I absolutely, of course, would. And I've talked to, like, my team or whatever of just like, hey, there's a thing if. If something comes up. Because I don't know if there's auditions.

[B]

But now that's going to be the headline. It's like Shane talking to acting team about possibility, about Mr. Gold.

[A]

Yeah. I'm like, hey, this is a thing. Maybe, like, realistically. I'm like, it could be cool if it gets me on audition. That gets me up a small part.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or something. Because I'll take that. That'd be awesome.

[B]

It's. Sometimes when I respond to it, people are like, oh, my God. And then you should voice skirt or something like that. I'm like, this isn't about me. This is. I don't know who that is. This isn't about me. Don't make it a package deal.

[A]

And Trevor should be Batman and Angela should know. It's. Don't do that.

[B]

This one is. We could do this for real.

[A]

Can I say, though, it's extremely funny because the character in the comics is 6 foot 5, and so the fan casts are. I've seen the, like, here's the list of actors who could play Booster Gold, and it's there. It'll be like, Glenn Powell, Ryan Gosling, Alan Richardson, Chris Pratt, Shane Todd. Yes. Like, okay, it's very funny.

[B]

It's like, what, the actor that played the boatman in the Conjuring, like, all the, like.

[A]

Yeah, and I get that. I'm like, we shift the vibes of characters all the time. Like, Robert Downey Jr. Was Iron Man.

[B]

Think of, like, Tom Cruise. Like, he's like four foot nothing. And he's every action star.

[A]

Yeah. And he played Rich, which is a character who's like 6 foot 7.

[B]

I bet he reaches. Because he's that small.

[A]

But no, I'm aware, and I'm extremely flattered and honored. I think it's really cool that people are like, oh, you. We. Some people at least are like, oh, you could play this superhero. Yeah, I know. He's a silly, like, comedic relief superhero. Which I'm like, yeah, but it's still like, hey, sick man. It's not like, hey, we're all fan casting you as huge dumb idiot. Which I guess is booster gold. But it's.

[B]

It's.

[A]

But it's very cool. But it certainly is where my imposter syndrome also comes in, because I see this, and I'm like, guys, yeah, all right, I'll. Hey, like, I'm not going to turn it down if. If an audition comes my way, but.

[B]

Can I be once again, very real with you?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's one reason why I'm so, like, gung ho about it, because I think I know you have, you know, the imposter syndrome stuff, but I think a lot of people at Smosh, like myself included, have the, like, oh, no, I could not. Don't worry about it. But I see this, and I'm like, just grab it. Just be the Jack Reacher and just grab. Yeah, because you're right there.

[A]

Well, thank you, man.

[B]

Yeah, of course.

[A]

Thank you. Wow. What a way to start this episode. I wanted being hyped up. No, I feel that way about, like, so much of our. I mean, all of our cast. Like, how much talent is packed into this place is crazy.

[B]

I think Trevor could join the Clippers, like, today. You saw Summer Games, guys.

[A]

Sorry. We lost Trevor. He got drafted to the Clippers. Drafted to the Clippers.

[B]

He got his draft letter.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Register to vote.

[A]

Yeah. They don't tell you that the NBA is part of that. Really? Lucky. Yeah. So he's gone to the Clippers. No. What I found out, I still think about when. When Amanda talked about auditioning for the show. Barry.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I was like, my God, there's a world where Amanda could have legitimately been a detective on tv. And I'm like, she would destroy that.

[B]

That clip.

[A]

I want to see that so bad. Yeah. We got to talk about that episode of the. The TNTL episode we did like, a while back now, like, episodes back. But, yeah.

[B]

Dude, that was wild. What a fever dream.

[A]

So I don't know if people have the whole story, but.

[B]

Well, if it isn't Mr. Chip. Well, if it isn't Mr. Doritos unwrapping, where the originals playing music.

[A]

Can I tell you? Can I tell you before we start.

[B]

This timing was crazy, by the way.

[A]

I don't know if anyone heard, but a ringtone went off. But I. Before we started recording, I look over at Jonathan and I go, jonathan, please start unwrapping something in the middle of this episode.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Did tell him to do that. But then that happened, and that is a gift.

[B]

That is a Gift raise.

[A]

Jonathan, you just gave us another Million View Short.

[B]

Thank you. Thank you.

[A]

Thank you so much.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Jonathan, do you want to stop down.

[B]

And get you some Doritos? Do you want some little treats?

[A]

That laugh. Oh, my God.

[B]

I don't know if you can see Jonathan, but it was in response to the laugh, was like, Jonathan just went in response to the Doritos. And that's why I was like, okay.

[A]

Oh, my God. Okay. So that TNTL episode, Crazy jacksepticeye was supposed to come in that day. Yes, that morning. Literally, like, we're all here. You weren't even supposed to be in a. A Smash Mouth episode that day.

[B]

No.

[A]

So you were here for another shoot, like, later in the day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we were like, oh, jacksepticeye's sick. Like, he can't come in today.

[B]

He just did a 360. Ollie. Like, he's so sick.

[A]

He's way too cool.

[B]

Poor thing. Kick flip.

[A]

So it was truly, like, a scramble of, like, what do we do? And then we were like, well, we have you here. We have. And Angela and I were already. Or Angela was also here. Or Sorry. So wait, I have it. I'm getting all messed up.

[B]

Oh, good.

[A]

You were here for the jacksepticeye episode.

[B]

And another couple things.

[A]

And another couple things. And Angela also happened to be here, and we were like, wait, we can. We can just make this episode happen. People wanted to have an episode with just you, Angela and I.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And so we were able to make that happen. And so we just threw it together. We didn't have anything prepared.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We weren't even planning on it. And then that all happened, and it's one of the most insane episodes of anything we've ever done.

[B]

It's wild. So time to. I posted this on Instagram under, like, one of the smosh clips about it. But the moment where I tell Angela, like, they have TVs at the gym, obviously that was seen as me reading her to filth. And I obviously also thanks you. Yeah.

[A]

And then realizes it was a crazy sleeper hit.

[B]

But I can't take full credit for that because I was like, do you remember the tweet a while back where it's like me watching Chappie with my girlfriend. Chappie comes on screen, me turning and being like, that's Chappie. So that was literally like you being like, I watch the TV and I'm just like, oh, they have TVs at the gym. Like, just saying something dumb to add onto your story. And then it became like, You've never been to the gym. And that's.

[A]

Oops.

[B]

And that's why I end up laughing so hard afterwards. Because I was like, why is Shane, like, laughing this hard? Like, it was a little goofy.

[A]

I guess it was just the way you said it too. I. I also want to state a correction. I had it wrong. I was saying Marisha Hargitay. It's Mariska Hargitay.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

Which I think if I had said it correctly, maybe it would have made Angela laugh.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I realized, is she a big Mariska Hargitay fan? I don't think so at all. I do realize after that that we hardly have any Law and Order fans in our. Who watch our show because nobody corrected me on that.

[B]

It's crazy that most of our fans aren't like geriatric parents.

[A]

I know. We have. 070 year olds watching this show.

[B]

Look, they're going to catch the guy again.

[A]

Like, they got him. I was nervous that time.

[B]

I think my parents really liked Law and Order, so.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, they, I think, like most of our parents just put on. They turn on the tv, the procedure and then they just sit there.

[B]

They want to know that by an hour, like, everything's going to be resolved. This is their time.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Have a little glass of wine. Have some popcorn.

[A]

Yeah. This episode of Smash Mouth is brought to you by Zoc Document. Damien. If your feeds are anything like mine, are you getting served weird health trends?

[B]

Yes. There's. I've seen so many. Like chia seeds with lemon for digestion, cottage cheese for protein, tape over your mouth when you sleep, tape for someone else's mouth when I sleep. There's just too many trends.

[A]

Yeah. There's so much I can't keep track.

[B]

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[A]

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[B]

Yep.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

So stop putting off those doctor's appointments and go to Zocdoc.com smoshmouth to find and instantly book a top rated Doctor today. That's Zocdoc.com Smoshmouth Zocdoc.com SmoshMouth Back to the show. You're supposed to stop dancing.

[B]

I can't.

[A]

You have to, Damien.

[B]

I can't. It's like a disease where people couldn't stop dancing.

[A]

The dancing plague of 1518.

[B]

Yep, I get it now.

[A]

I did have a joke planned for the TNTL that I forgot.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That I. I want to try to do now.

[B]

Okay. Please.

[A]

So. So, Damian, don't laugh. I want to see if this will make you laugh.

[B]

But it's, you know, it's. If I'm not in the gigliest mood ever, it's pretty hard to.

[A]

I know.

[B]

Okay. Okay.

[A]

I just. I want you to at least be like, oh, that. That would have been good for the.

[B]

Tn as though I'm back there.

[A]

But let's see if. Let's see if I can make you laugh right now. Selena, could you look up the top song on Spotify for the band Butthole Surfers? There's a band called Butthole Surfers. What's the number one song on their Spotify?

[B]

Why do I know this?

[A]

It's pepper.

[B]

That's pretty good.

[A]

Yeah, it. It. You know, I think in the midst of. If I had done that in the.

[B]

Midst, it might have got me. With the right timing, it could have definitely been, like a sleeper hit.

[A]

But I. I felt like I got you a little bit throughout that episode. Angela, though.

[B]

You did?

[A]

Yeah. I couldn't crack Angela.

[B]

I laughed a few times. Angela's really good at. Someone pointed it out in the comments that Angela's good at, like, laughing without physically laughing, so you could tell, like, the air was escaping. But she was just, like.

[A]

She did cover her mouth a lot throughout that episode. So. You yelled that at her and I did. Yeah.

[B]

I. I. Shane, you yelled at her.

[A]

That was the case.

[B]

We do.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

You know what? It's fine.

[A]

You know what?

[B]

I'm just gonna.

[A]

Dude.

[B]

In for a penny, in for a pound.

[A]

I love that this is happening organically by accident. Can I tell you, I have a bunch of. I have a bunch of things I wrote down for us to talk about on the episode today, and one of them I wrote down was just worst sounds. Just to talk about the worst sounds. And we've gotten a couple of them.

[B]

It's a fucking Eric Andre show.

[A]

All of a sudden, we're gon birds pooping from the rafters. It's just going to get really hot.

[B]

The actor who play Kenneth Parcels was going to pop out of the middle of the desk.

[A]

Like, desk opens up.

[B]

Hiring Eric Andre was a bad idea.

[A]

Selena has a speaker around her neck. Like a necklace, sort of like the albatross.

[B]

It's like penance.

[A]

Yeah. Like she's Flava Flav, but with sound. It's also Selena's birthday that we're recording this on. So Selena has a crown and a sash and everything. This is what Selena looks like right now. Yeah. Pretty. Pretty great.

[B]

Happy birthday, Selena.

[A]

Birthday, Selena.

[B]

You did it another year.

[A]

So people looking this up will realize how far in advance sometimes we shoot episodes. Don't think about that.

[B]

Don't think about it.

[A]

Don't think about that.

[B]

Don't think. Think about it.

[A]

So, yeah, I. Let's see. I wrote down a bunch of stuff to talk about.

[B]

I was gonna bring up.

[A]

Oh, you do? You bring up stuff?

[B]

Dude, I was so.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

You've got your movie thing. You're gonna be Booster Gold.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

I wanted to draw attention to the fact that I was a voice in Naja 2.

[A]

I've been hearing a lot about this movie.

[B]

It's. The animation is astounding and the voices are pretty good. But it was the English release, so I was really nervous because I brought that up on Smosh Mouth a while back. When you're like, what's the highest grossing movie? I think it was, like, Titanic. And I was like, actually, I think Nausea made a shit ton of money in the global market, especially in China. And then I was like, is that too much? Did I say too much? Because it wasn't out then with my voice.

[A]

No.

[B]

And I was a fact. I was. But I was also, like. I had a full message written out to Selena being like, did I end up sending that to you? I had a full message written out that was just like, hey, just for reasons. And like, not for any, like, specific reasons, but, like, you know, I know we're not on strike anymore, but sometimes sad goes on strike. And, like, I just. It was just. I couldn't think of a way to back out of it. So I was nervous about that for a very long time.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah. Speaking of filming things in advance, so I was.

[A]

That's awesome, though. Congrats.

[B]

Thank you. I appreciate it.

[A]

It's really funny. This. This happened, like, a while back. Where we were talking about a Pixar movie and. And I was like, oh, yeah, I haven't seen. I don't know much about it. And Elio and. And fans were like, shane doesn't know that one of his best friends Shelby is like a voice in that movie. And I'm like, you have to understand, at this stage, every time I talk to you or Shelby, you have like five new projects. Like, well, you guys are working so much that I just watch stuff and I'm like, I assume you're in it. I mean, like, truly, Courtney and I were one time watching a Star wars show and there's like a radio playing at one point and we're like, yeah, Shelby, that Shelby.

[B]

I mean, here's the thing. I like to think I work a good amount, but I look at Shelby and go, how do you do it?

[A]

Like, really?

[B]

Yeah, just because Shelby books a lot and it's always these like, higher profile projects and like, yeah, I could like turn to the camera and say like, Damon X Machina, Titanic, Scion out now for all systems. I voice nerve, you know, and that's. I could just say that and I could be like, I was, you know, panty and stocking the episode. Fa fa fucking. I play the hat ghost. But, you know, just. But it's just whatever. But Shelby does so much.

[A]

For. For like maybe the few people who maybe don't know Shelby. And you are two of my. My best friends that I've had for so long. I think I've known you guys longer than anybody else out here in la. And when I met you both, you were not in voice acting at all, but both of you separately became very successful voice actors. Just by happenstance that two of my best friends just ended up in that field. In different corners of that field, though.

[B]

Shelby does a lot of like, animation and a lot of like really professional voice matching. I'm more like the video game animes we like. The Venn diagram middle is video games. Shelby does a lot of animation. I do like a lot of anime.

[A]

Yeah, I don't think she does any anime, but she, like, it's funny because when I talk to her, she's like, dude, Damien's doing all that anime. It's so cool.

[B]

Like, Shelby does so much though. Like, it's.

[A]

It's crazy. It's really cool.

[B]

I think it's funny because I remember walking down Olympic one time, like, headed to an eye doctor appointment. This is years ago. And Shelby like called me and was asking like my advice on a voice acting audition and was like, yeah, what would you do? Like, what do you think? And I remember looking at the phone, you can't see that, but I'm, like, looking at the phone just being like, why are you calling me? Like, you're already kicking ass. Like, she already knew so much more than I probably know now. Like, it's so. I don't know. I think we're always our worst critics, and maybe you should be Booster Gold.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. You know what? I decided. Sure.

[B]

Okay. James. Sorry if you had other plans, buddy.

[A]

Yeah, James. Our cameraman is actually James Gunn, owner. He's James Gunn.

[B]

That's. That's what we call him.

[A]

That is.

[B]

That is.

[A]

You have a nickname for everybody at Smosh.

[B]

A lot of folks I do. And I. I learned this term the other day on the Internet. I don't know if it's an established term, but we're making it now. I don't have a whole lot of nicknames. I have a lot of Nicholas names, which are when you make it longer. Like, court Courtney is quarterly, which is extra syllable.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, that's true. I'm Shanier.

[B]

I think I. I don't think I call you Shanye, to be honest. I think that's a relic from the Disney days, but I don't think I really do that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I had an ex girlfriend that called you Shany Days and Mondays, and I'm like, that's pretty good.

[A]

Like, I don't think I even knew that.

[B]

Well, not to you.

[A]

That's awesome. That's just in reference to me. Like, oh, Shiny Days and Mondays.

[B]

Oh, Shany Days is doing this thing. I'm like, oh, great.

[A]

You know, you're like, what'd you say? Yeah, you don't get to call him that.

[B]

You don't get to call him. I don't get to call him that.

[A]

That's Booster Gold from however long ago.

[B]

From the future, which is Booster Gold's thing.

[A]

It's. It's a. But It's a very cool thing, but, yeah. James Gunn, owner.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What a nickname. That's pretty good. I've never heard of Nicholas names, but you got names?

[B]

Yeah, I got him.

[A]

That's pretty badass, man.

[B]

Thanks.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I appreciate you.

[A]

Appreciate you, man.

[B]

Maybe keep working and one day you'll get your own Nicholas name.

[A]

Okay, I'll keep working at it.

[B]

Okay. Yeah.

[A]

Let's see. What other stuff do I have written down here?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I would. I did want to go back to worst sounds. All right. Because I thought it was very funny that the rapper was happening in the TNT episode, and you called it out, and I was like, what sounds like. Because also, that speaker boom now just happened. That's pretty bad.

[B]

You know what? I think for me, I'm very sensitive to sound, and it's a blessing and a curse. It helps with voice acting when I'm listening back to my own stuff, and I'm like, oh, I know these tweaks, sure. But I think for me, something like the. The boom. The sound box going like. Like, that's not crazy for me, because everybody doesn't like that. That's no one's favorite sound. So I feel less like an outlier because I don't really know what is an acceptable noise. And if I'm just getting tilted because that's how my brain is wired. But when it comes to, like, the. The thing being unwrapped in the previous episode, which is fine, and no one's mad, basically, I. I, like, heard it a few times. And it wasn't until you and Angela, I, like, noticed you individually clock it, that I was like, okay, I have permission that this is a thing that other people.

[A]

We've allowed it to happen. Yeah.

[B]

But, like, gum chewing is really hard for me if, like, you're in a conversation with someone and they're, like, smacking their gum, it's like, my brain is always like, are you not aware that you're doing that?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I used to know someone that would, like, smack their food, like, really intensely. And it wasn't until like, a year and a half to two years of, like, you know, knowing them that I was like, hey, you're doing this. And it's a little hard for me to be honest with you. And they were like, oh, but it's, like, more fun. Like, it's more fun.

[A]

Like, it's more fun.

[B]

It's fun to eat food and be like. And I'm like, you're doing it on purpose. And that was the thing that drove me nut.

[A]

It's fun to be super fucked up.

[B]

I fucking love it. And one of my first experiences filming a sketch with Ian way back in the defy days. Yeah, there was, like, a wet washcloth or something, and he just kept, like, wham. Just, like, whamming it on the table, like, over and over. Like, it was this cool, cool hobby. And he did it for, like, three minutes.

[A]

I know, exactly.

[B]

And I was, yeah, like, too new to the job to be like, hey, man, I'm sure you get this all the time. What the are you doing? But it was still just this moment of, like, I can't. I can't be here. I can't be here. How about you, man, what noises bug you.

[A]

You know what a story that reminds me of is? My grandpa used to always carry, like, a bunch of peppermints or lemon drops in, like, the front of his car.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And he would. He would be front of his car like, or, like, you know, in the. The, like.

[B]

Didn't they, like, cook? He'd have, like.

[A]

He. Maybe. But he'd have, like, a cup full of, like, peppermints. Like, he would go through a whole cup of them.

[B]

I know what you're about.

[A]

So we're driving, and one time we were driving, like, for a good hour or so, and I'm in. In, like, my Game Boy. So I'm. I'm locked in.

[B]

Do you remember the game?

[A]

I don't. It was probably a Pokemon. This probably, like, Pokemon Sapphire.

[B]

I was about to ask, were you, like, a red or blue? Were you.

[A]

I can remember them all. I was silver, I was Sapphire. I was. I feel like I always took kind of like, whatever was, like, in my eyes. The less popular one.

[B]

Sure. I was blue, I was gold.

[A]

I think I took cool tones a lot. I can't remember, but I know Sapphire and silver were, like, nice. I had to take Sapphire. It's my birthstone. But we're driving, my grandpa's driving, and all sudden I turn and I see my mom. My mom is just like this. My mom's just, like, like, pissed because my grandpa's just been smacking on a peppermint. Yep, it's the old man smacking on a peppermint thing. So he would do that now. It never bothered me. So I guess it's not one of my worst sounds because I was just, I guess, used to it for a long time.

[B]

That's great.

[A]

And I don't. I think it's. If a sound is consistent enough, but it's. It's when. You know what I think bothers me the most is you get this a lot in LA is people honking. And, like, when it's like, early in the morning, It'll be like 6am and someone's outside, and they decide instead of calling, instead of going up and knocking on the door, they're going to honk. And they're going to honk at a weird, inconsistent pace. And they're going to do it for a disturbing amount of time. I'm like, it's been minutes. Like, your friend's not coming out, dude.

[B]

You know what's funny, though, is I think you can tell yourself a story. Maybe it is the friend, but that's the boring one. What if there's just a really fucked up deer, like, trying to cross, but then, like, scooting back and, like, looking at him eating a little asphalt? And then, like, going back out and then back in, like, that's. You could fall back asleep. That's like counting sheep.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, you're. You're so right. I should think about that.

[B]

Well, you're clutching the pillow in rage.

[A]

I know I've told this story before, but when we lived together and I lived in, like, the back, like, house area, my wall was like the wall to the neighbor's yard.

[B]

Yeah. It was literally like the stone fence.

[A]

Yeah. Kind of, but like clockwork. For a while at. I want to say it was like 3 or 4am that neighbor, like, to the back of our house. I would hear them. And this would happen every night. It would be like, matt, Matt, Matt. And it would go for like 10 minutes.

[B]

He's a Goldbergs fan. Bradley, dude, that's him.

[A]

But it kept happening. It kept, like, in the middle of the night, it. Matt, Matt. And I, like, I got to a certain point where I. I wanted to be like, matt, Matt, what the fuck? Like, come on. Like, what are you. What are you doing, Matt?

[B]

I think it is neighbor stuff, actually. That's.

[A]

What.

[B]

That's the common thread for you.

[A]

Yeah. I was like, holy shit. I've luckily, though, in living in apartments, like, most of my time in L. A. Never had crazy upstairs neighborhood.

[B]

I've had, like, a toddler live above me. He had parents too, but I've had a toddler live above me. And there was just lots of toddler noise of, like, running around and, like. Yeah. Bouncing a ball. Like.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

But it is what it is.

[A]

Yeah. If you're. If your upstairs neighbors are, like, working out you, you know. Yeah. It's like, oh, they're doing jumping jacks.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And that shit's crazy.

[B]

I always feel like I was the weird neighbor, like, because I was always preparing for, like, film shoot stuff and I was doing voiceover. Even at that time. I must have been, like, 21. And so, like, I'm just screaming about, like, grenades. And I was like, every time I see them, I'm like, are you okay? Like, are you mad at me? Like, do you hear me? And they're like, ah, it's fine. I'm like, great. Grenades. Get down there. I have a gun. But then I also remember, like, being in the parking lot one time, which was just a very small. It was like a fourplex thing and we all shared like a couple spaces and I'm just there like doing a pogo stick. Like, was it you and I that did the Edward and Jacob thing?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Pogo 6.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Yeah, it was for like a YouTube channel that no longer exists and we had to learn how to pogo stick. I remember being in my like, driveway just learning how.

[A]

Uh huh.

[B]

They were like, hey, man, just, just.

[A]

Just doing a little pogo.

[B]

I was like, yeah, it's for work.

[A]

It's for work. Yeah, dude, I have to do this.

[B]

I have to. I'm gonna try to.

[A]

I'm not very good if I like. And this is weird because being an actor, you'd think this would be something we're good at. I'm not good at like doing something with people around that. I'm like, oh, people are gonna wonder what I'm doing.

[B]

Oh, same.

[A]

And then I look, I go at the gym, there are people who like, no shame whatsoever.

[B]

What is that?

[A]

And I'm like, that's so cool that you're doing your like crazy CrossFit, like jumping up and down, like rolling around thing in this, the middle of the gym.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I saw a guy the other day doing like Cirque du Soleil type stuff, which it was impressive as, but I'm like, like he was truly not like in the. You know how there's the like, area where they do like aerobics or like Zumba dance and sometimes you'll see people doing stuff there. No, he was like in the middle of the like free weight area. And he had those pillars where he was up balancing on one hand, like his whole body, like doing crazy handstand stuff just out in the floor. Like people are like, nearby. I'm like, if you fall, you're gonna fall onto people.

[B]

Now see, that specifically feels like that person wants to probably. Which is weird to me.

[A]

Yeah, probably.

[B]

I do respect people just going to the gym and living their lives. Actually, I did see something on socials the other day that gave me hope where someone was like, I just saw this guy at the gym, do two minutes on the treadmill, go do one set of curls and then leave. Like, what the hell? And. And they were like trying to make fun of this person. And every comment was like, hey, what if that's the best he could do? Like, hey, at least it's something.

[A]

Yeah, man. And I was like, yeah, like, that's great.

[B]

Because there is this horror of like what if someone thinks I'm the main character and they're watching me because I.

[A]

Simultaneously cannot imagine caring that much?

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

I'm like, dude, I'm not. I'm like, you paid that. Are you. Are you following this man? Yeah, like, are you following his habits? You watched his whole workout, even if it was short. I'm like, yeah, I'm not paying that much attention.

[B]

I'm like, they've got. They've got videos on your phone now. You can. Yeah, like, you can just do that while you're on the treadmill. You don't have to look at this man and be like, look at this man.

[A]

You can look at other people on your phone. Is that amazing?

[B]

You can look at jacksepticeye.

[A]

Oh, that was a good episode.

[B]

It was a good episode.

[A]

I'm so glad he came back.

[B]

Me too. And it's funny because, like, he's talked a lot now about, like, yeah. Watching Smosh stuff. And I've been watching more Jacksepticeye and I watched his whole playthrough of the Metal Gear Solid Snake Eater remake, and I'm just like. A lot of the stuff he says, I'm just like. I said that about the game too, like, yeah, cool. I used to love this thing too. He's just like me, for real.

[A]

It was nice to meet him because I've. I've seen so much of him for. For so long, and he was truly kind of. He's been like one of those legendary, you YouTube figures, right? That felt like, oh, they're out of our sphere.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So for him to suddenly be, like a fan of us in ways that we're fans of him is so cool. And then he shows up and he's like. It's just like, oh, right, you're just a dude.

[B]

You're a person.

[A]

You're just hanging out like that. That is who you are. And it was so sick to, like, just hang out with him. It was. It was definitely trippy. Yeah. So fun, man. Just badass.

[B]

Shout out to J. Hey, this up and coming youtuber. You guys may not know jacksepticeye. Shout out to Jack.

[A]

Go.

[B]

Go.

[A]

You know what? Go to his channel. Support him, because he needs the views.

[B]

He really does, you guys. God, what if that was a thousand followers overnight?

[A]

It would be so. Guys, that would be like 90 of his followers.

[B]

That'd be insane. Dude, tell him we sent you.

[A]

And I think he makes coffee too. I don't know.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

So, you know, there's that, too.

[B]

The best YouTuber coffee out there.

[A]

Honestly? Yeah, I can't.

[B]

I can't really have coffee anymore. I don't know.

[A]

Yeah, that's right. You kind of quit caffeine.

[B]

Yeah, it sucks. It's a bummer. I miss it a lot. Oh, but it's okay. I'm just.

[A]

Decaf coffee.

[B]

I can. You know. You know what's so stupid? I remembered that the other day I was talking about, like, yeah, I just don't have coffee. And people are like, what about decaf? I'm like, yeah, what about decaf? And I started buying decaf.

[A]

I'm kind of that way, though, where I'm not good at the, like, in between thing.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Like, I'm like, oh, if I'm going to take a break from coffee, I'm not going to do decaf coffee. I'm just not going to drink coffee.

[B]

But you know what?

[A]

I'm just not, like. I'm not. I'm not good at the, like. Oh, well, there's a compromise, I guess.

[B]

You have to sort of, like, completely undo the ritual sometimes instead of, like, replacing it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Do you have anything you want to.

[B]

No, I'm just thinking about my cats.

[A]

Oh, right. We talked about that.

[B]

I forgot you had those.

[A]

I forgot you had those. Yeah, we both have two cats. Cats.

[B]

Hey, what a pair.

[A]

Pretty sick. Yeah, yeah, yeah, your cats. Does it follow the same logic that I believe everyone who has two pets, one is a animal, one is a person?

[B]

Yeah. Freya is a person. Very intelligent. Zelda is just fat as a sow.

[A]

And full of chaos.

[B]

She just barrels around like a bear.

[A]

I also love the way that anyone with two pets talks about what's just like, oh, our one. This is. This is. This is Maggie. She's gorgeous. She's the sweetest thing on the planet. This is hog. He's disgusting. He's a little freak.

[B]

He's a little stinker. So this. Actually, this leads into another question. Different nicknames or Nicholas names for cats or various things you say to them. Sometimes Zelda walks by and like, oh, it's the piss whale.

[A]

Piss whale.

[B]

She's the size of a zeppelin. And sometimes she smells a little like piss. And so, you know, I give her little cleanings, but, like, oh, piss whale.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Freya is my human daughter and Zelda is my baby.

[A]

And that's are the logic applies to us. See, it's kind of flipped, though, because Birdie is majestic, A majestic creature. A majestic creature. She's. She's truly like a wild animal, though.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Like, it's like. Oh, it's like. It's like she barely knows what it's like to. To live in a home. You know, you've.

[B]

Like, you've caged Simba.

[A]

Exactly. But she's very sweet, and she's a beautiful cat, but she's. I'm. We're like, she's an animal. Like, she is a wild animal, whereas Bones is a man. I'm like, I don't think he has any instincts. I think he's fully just a man.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

As a cat, like, I think he doesn't know he's an animal. I think he's like, yeah, hey, I'm hanging out here.

[B]

In what way? Just like, he just.

[A]

The way he acts is just person. Like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And he doesn't act like a cat. Like, he wants attention all the time. He likes to play fetch and demands it all the time. Does like, most cats, you know, like, they. They're like, oh, they want to do their own thing. Like, no, not him. He's always up in our business.

[B]

Yeah. If I go take a nap, both cats are like, they're just saddled either side or at least somewhere in the room.

[A]

Yeah. And that's Birdie. She'll like, be chilling on her own. She doesn't want to, like, beheld or anything. But Bones is opposite. But the way. And he also, like, talks, like, full on talks.

[B]

Oh, Eliza Thornberry situation.

[A]

He is. Yeah, he actually. So he speaks English. Okay. No, he. He's the loudest cat on the planet, which I actually don't mind. I love. Like, with a cat, it's not as bad because they're not so loud that I'm, like, worried about the neighbors. He's just chatty to me.

[B]

They do that when you're trying to sleep, though, because sometimes that's rough.

[A]

Not too bad. That's where Birdie's actually weird. So we. Okay, so we joke about Birdie maybe being haunted.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So. And this is.

[B]

This is the not man. This is animal.

[A]

This is a haunted animal hospital.

[B]

Dumb man.

[A]

Cats are pretty, like, haunted, right? Like. Or not haunted. They're. They're apparently like wards of. Of spirits. Right.

[B]

I don't know. This might be a youth.

[A]

I hear. I hear. I thought I've heard, like, oh, cats, like, are. Are they ward away spirits or something?

[B]

There's a lot of lore about cats and a lot of different things. Like, in Irish, there's like the kachi, which is like a cat fairy spirit.

[A]

Oh, but I don't know about that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I thought it was like. Or people. I feel like spooky stuff always has, like, cats involved. Okay. Or like ghosts, like cats can see spirits or something.

[B]

That's dog propaganda.

[A]

Ah, that probably makes sense, man.

[B]

Yeah. Sorry. So, haunted cat.

[A]

So. So Birdie, normal cat for most. Most of the time. 99% of the time. However, my grandma one time mails me some. Some mice. These like little toy mice.

[B]

Got it. How old?

[A]

Some real mice?

[B]

No, no, it's like 100 years old. She mailed me a bunch of mice in my envelope.

[A]

My grandma sends me some toy mice that are like these little fluffy, like orange purple mice. The ones. And she's like, I've had these for a long time. These were like, like a favorite toy of some of the cats we had, like years ago, like decades ago. But I had them and, you know, want you to have them. And we're like, great, cool. And so we bring about. We throw them on the ground, you know, and they kind of. The cats don't bother him for a long time. And then suddenly in the middle of the night, one night, they're gonna be so freaked out by this. But it's. I think it's kind of funny.

[B]

In the middle there, he starts flying.

[A]

We just hear Birdie, like, meowing this weird, like, meow. Just like, meow, meow. And like, I walk downstairs and it's Birdie just sitting in the middle of, like, our area with the mouse just at her feet. And we're just like, all right, I'm. Put that away.

[B]

There's three lit candles in a circle.

[A]

Yeah. The shadow in the. In the corner. Just like, don't worry. Don't worry about me.

[B]

Yeah. Jesus.

[A]

So we put them away, but if we ever have them out, she likes, like, we'll just grab them and just like, meow. And then now sometimes during the middle of the day, she'll like, walk around with them and meow like that. And we're like. It's clearly triggering some instinct in her.

[B]

I wonder if it's the scent of this cat that she doesn't know.

[A]

I. I mean, but it's. These are old. I wonder how long that scent lingers on them. But yeah, for some reason, she like, we're like, oh. She like, thinks they're like her babies or something.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

But, yeah, we're like, she's haunted. She's got ghosts in her.

[B]

See, if we're going fantasy wise, Zelda is like a treasure dragon, okay? Like I said, she's thick, you see? And so If I have my like phone or a remote control or anything, she will have like just found it and sat on it. And it's her favorite thing to just like hunker down on it. Yeah, she'll do it with my arm too. If I'm laying in bed, she'll just.

[A]

Be like, it's the weirdest thing how cats. If you just lay something on the.

[B]

Ground, she'll just do it.

[A]

They'll just be like, well, I'm gonna sit there.

[B]

But if I can't find my phone, I'm like, wait a minute, like there it is.

[A]

And yes, your hand goes to Narnia.

[B]

People are like, ah. And they never see me again. But no. Yeah, she's. That's her little quirk. And then Freya is just a person.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Do you ever tell your cat specific.

[A]

Things you go on. But we.

[B]

Well sometimes like in the morning I'll just be like, are you ready for your big day? And like I'll be like, come on, it's time for breakfast. Are you ready for your big day? Or like, you know, are you all tired from your big day? Or I'll say, come on girls, it's Christmas. It's Christmas as we run downstairs. Cause they don't know any better. And I feel like we could all use a win.

[A]

It's August.

[B]

Yeah, I do it usually. Not around Christmas time. Yeah, it's Christmas. I'll just be like, freya, it's Christmas. And I'll pick her up and I'll like dance around. I'll be like, you did it.

[A]

Oh, I talk to my cats, but it's a lot of times they love to bother me. Like when it's an hour before they're supposed to be fed and they just start coming up to me and they're just meowing. And I was like, absolutely not, dude. Like you're not going to win this battle. Like not today.

[B]

But sometimes you lose that battle anyway. Cuz it's like the honking. Like Zelda will show up at 6am and just plant on my chest and it's like a thunder blanket and it's very comfortable. But eventually she'll like, get off, get back on, get off, get back on. And I'm like, okay, you want food?

[A]

And I. That's a power play.

[B]

It literally, it's cuz I'm in a position of weakness trying to sleep. Like, no, don't make me go get up and feed you at 6am I don't want to to be the norm. But like, no matter how much I withhold, like, my whole life. I'm like, you shouldn't. No, no, no. But she didn't learn. She's not learning anything.

[A]

I don't know if cats. I don't. I. I know you can teach cats some stuff, but my cats are not learning anything new.

[B]

They both, like, come when summoned. Like, if I. If I use. I use two fingers and rub them together and go beep, beep, beep, and they will just show up.

[A]

A fun thing with cats, too, is if you just do something weird, they're going to get curious.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Like, if I just, like, go into a room and then, like, peek out and then go back in. They're like, the fuck was that, man? Like, now I gotta come see what you're doing.

[B]

I don't have spatial permanence. I thought you went away.

[A]

Disappear.

[B]

That was not okay to do. I was really scared.

[A]

And then. Yeah. Like, I talked to, like, I'll level with Bones. Like. Like, he's. You know, because he's a man. And, like, I'll just be like, hey. Like, so he'll walk up. I was like, what's up, motherfucker? Like, what are you doing, stupid? What's up, dumbass?

[B]

You got to keep an eye on.

[A]

Him, because I know he views me that way, too. Like, I'm like, you're making fun of me sometimes. So, like, I want you to know, like, I'm not taking that.

[B]

Right. So please be careful, because since you're raising a man, you have a lot of responsibility. Be careful. The podcast he watches.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Let him teach him respect.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

No, I. I've been limiting his. His iPad time.

[B]

Okay, good. Yeah, good. Because it starts out and it's just like, dancing little blueberries across the screen, and then that's how they sneak in. Like a Joe Rogan.

[A]

Exactly. No, we. We. We. It's the uncomfortable question of, like, okay, who would my cat vote for? And. And you just don't want to think about. That would be like, I don't want to know.

[B]

Zelda's like, I did Taft again. I'm like, all right, Zelda. Oh, sweet spirit.

[A]

Oh, God. Speaking of cats.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Something I. I actually, I had the goal of before we started doing this podcast together. I've been playing Stardew Valley a bunch.

[B]

Okay. I hear there's another update coming.

[A]

Is there? Yeah. That guy's got to be working on Haunted Chocolatier.

[B]

He probably is.

[A]

Come on, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Stardew Valley is perfect. It needs no more updates.

[B]

We'll get the chocolatier. When we get it, I want a perfect game. So you wait. You take your time. But what are you saying?

[A]

Stardew Valley has a lot of lore between you and I, Damien Chain show, back in the day, because we played Stardew Valley, and in that this was infamous of the time is I threw away your golden cat.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Which is a thing that is, like, one of the end goals of the game. Especially at the time, it was like.

[B]

There was the tippy top of, like, I cost a million or 10 million gold or something like that.

[A]

I think it's. It's a million gold, which is a lot. It's a lot. You have to, like, do a lot.

[B]

I don't have a million gold personally.

[A]

And we were playing it on. On camera. I. I grabbed it and I threw it in the trash can. Threw away a million gold. Yeah. We later did establish that we had planned that we had, like. Like a WWE match.

[B]

Yeah, well, like, it was a backup file, so it wasn't. Co op was not natively in the game. Initially with the Damien Shane show stuff, the. The basic pitch was like, mods. Like, I was like, oh, I want to mod games and, you know, do and install these fun mods. And, you know, it's. It's hard to find stuff that really hits. But one of them was like, oh, co op Stardew. Like, that's a new thing that has been modded into the game. So I had backups of my save buddy. No one had to worry about that.

[A]

But. But some fans, like, held onto that for years.

[B]

They really did.

[A]

I would get DMs, like, years later being like, I can't believe you did that. Like, I will never forget that you did that.

[B]

It's interesting what some people, like, hold onto.

[A]

Yeah. But I finally. I'm not kidding this past week, finally got the golden cat in my game.

[B]

Really?

[A]

It took me so long because I made saves, and then I would, like, start a new game. So, like, over the course of the past, like, seven years playing Stardew Valley, finally made a game where I was like, all right, I'm gonna, like, congratulations. I got it.

[B]

That's huge, man.

[A]

Yeah, man. Got that million gold.

[B]

I mean, we should play sometime.

[A]

Yeah, dude. Oh, you know, actually, I'm good.

[B]

No, it'll be fine.

[A]

No, no, I. It's kind of like a solitary game for me. I love to just, like, you know, zone out.

[B]

Courtney said you guys play together sometimes.

[A]

Yeah, not. Not really. So it's good. I'm good, man. I'm Good. It's all. It's all good.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Yeah. Anyways, yeah, I'm actually. I'm actually cruising in that game in ways that I never achieved, because I also got the desert Obelisk. For anyone who doesn't play Stardew Valley, you probably have no idea what I'm talking about, but you need to play that game.

[B]

It's great.

[A]

It's amazing. It's a game that I wish. I wish Amanda would play that game.

[B]

I think we. Well, I don't think we'd ever see Amanda again.

[A]

Oh, we probably would never see Amanda again. That would be the game that would suck her in. Because it's like, oh, you live in a small town and you make wine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She'd be like, what? Yeah, my dream.

[B]

I can just make your preserves. I make truffle oil. It's great.

[A]

It's fucking amazing.

[B]

I got my little piggies, and they get to name them, and they find little truffles.

[A]

And there's now an island that you get to go to, which I have. I'm not doing yet. Really? I'm staving that off until I'm like, hey, I'm. I'm good in the Valley.

[B]

You're gonna. You're gonna have fun on that.

[A]

I'm excited to get to that island.

[B]

You know what's so crazy is I play a lot of games now that people just comment randomly, whether it's, like, on stream or whatever. They're like, oh, my God. You should play this with Amanda. Like, Amanda specifically is someone that is so fun to, like, show games.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think I've mentioned this before. I understand that, like, when a lot of people watch smosh or YouTube videos in general, when there's a group, it's like, the feeling of friendship. Like, I want to be there. I want to be. I feel like I'm friends with these folks. That's how I feel. When, like, Spencer was playing Resident Evil with everyone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was just like, damn it. I want to show them Resident Evil 2. Like, God, that's so fun.

[A]

Like, you know what's so magical about. Because both Amanda and Angela do this, and it's such a rare thing is that they're not into. They don't play video games.

[B]

Right.

[A]

They've never been, like, into video games. But to get to show someone something that they don't. Don't partake in.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But they show complete openness and interest in.

[B]

That's. It's a.

[A]

It's so magical.

[B]

They are just.

[A]

And it's kind of rare. Like, you realize, like, whoa, that doesn't happen that much. Whenever you show someone something, it's like, hey, I know you don't like this or you're not. You're not an expert in this thing. You don't partake in this thing. But let me show you. Usually it's like, okay, cool. Like, oh, so that's those little guys. Okay. Like, nice. Like, that's usually the response you get is like, okay, yeah, you look, look, you're not interested.

[B]

You know what it is, Shane? They're time travelers. Like, someone was frozen in 1970 and wakes back up. So you don't have to explain. Like, this is what a car is. Like, they know, but then, like, all of a sudden, they wake up in 2025 and you're like, look at all the graphics. And it's who.

[A]

That is truly Amanda's response to, like, video games. And like, same with Angela. Cuz, like, you to show someone something and to be like, I love this thing. Let me show this thing to this person.

[B]

It's very special.

[A]

And their response to is. Is, oh, my God. What?

[B]

It's the best.

[A]

It's like, that's just awesome.

[B]

Imagine being a kid and talking to your parents about Pokemon and then being like, hold up, hold up. Pump the brakes. There's 150 of these and you're like, 150. 151.

[A]

I know.

[B]

That's. No, that's what you want.

[A]

Showing interest in someone else's interest is probably the kindest thing you can do.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

It's amazing, like, how much it makes people feel, like, special.

[B]

Absolutely. Super agree.

[A]

I will never forget in an acting class once, this one guy brought his son in, like. Like, his son was like, six maybe, and his son had a bunch of Bakugan, and he was like, showing me the Bakugan and I knew nothing about it.

[B]

That's the ones that are spheres, right?

[A]

They're spheres, right? And now obviously, I do think they're cool as hell.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And so he's showing me, and I'm like, I'm asking genuine questions. I'm just like, whoa, that's awesome.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, that's so cool. Oh, so do they. Does, like, are there ones that are stronger than other ones? Like, or is there, like. I was like, asking genuine questions, so I'm like, this is really cool. And this kid was just like, yeah. Oh, my God. Like, this. This adult, like, thinks this stuff is awesome. That's so cool. And the next time he came into the Acting class. He brought a bag of more Buck Gun.

[B]

He's like.

[A]

He's like, oh, did you want some of these?

[B]

That's.

[A]

And I was like, oh. I was like, this kid, like, was thinking about.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, that's all.

[B]

It matters a lot.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I got to see my nephew recently, and he's like, seven or, like, 15 or whatever.

[A]

I don't know, to be fair. I'm interested in his interest. I'm not interested.

[B]

It's whatever. I don't.

[A]

I don't care about him as a.

[B]

Person, but, like, he's. You know, I. I sat next to him as we, like, went out for my mom's birthday dinner. And so, like, I was just talking to him, and, you know, he's making these different drawings, but he's also, like, into Pokemon now. And I think. I think it means a lot to kids of that age, 7 or 19 or whatever, where you're just like. You talk to them like a person, not like, hey, big guy, what's going on? Whoa, that's a really cool toy. It's just like, hey, man, how you been? Oh, that's really. Wait, I know what that is. Is that this thing, like, they can pick up on that. And, like, my mom and her husband were both just like, wow. Like, you know, he's really taken a liking to you, and he's, like, really connected, and I'm just like, yeah, you just. I'm just talking to him, like.

[A]

Yeah, it's. He has interests.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, any person.

[B]

Hobbies and interests.

[A]

Yeah, it's definitely.

[B]

I'm.

[A]

I'm reckoning with the fact soon that I will probably stop being able to beat my nieces and nephews at, like, Mario Party and Mario Kart.

[B]

It are so bigger than them, though, right? Yeah, you're fine.

[A]

Yeah. But I think it actually happened last time. We were playing Mario Kart, and they were. They were beating me, and I was.

[B]

Like, mario Kart will get you.

[A]

This is tough because I'm like, they're locked in. Yeah, I'm. I'm like, dang. I need to practice, like, before I visit them next. I'm probably going to practice. I'm like, you cannot. I cannot be embarrassed in this family. Like, I don't know.

[B]

Mario parts are rough one to gauge that on because there's, like, elements.

[A]

Yeah, we played it when we played it on Smosh games. Finally, I lost.

[B]

That just came out.

[A]

I lost miserably. And it was just. I was like, oh, I just had a horrible round. I got hit by Shit.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like, I. I'm crushing it most of the time.

[B]

All it takes.

[A]

But now nobody knows that.

[B]

I'm like, shells.

[A]

I was like.

[B]

Like.

[A]

I was like, you guys, better. See, I can. I can wall ride, and I can grind. Okay. Know that I can do that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's devastating.

[B]

I've seen it.

[A]

Truly devastating. Yeah.

[B]

I think Smash Bros is going to be the game for me that, like, already the newest generation of it is, like, I'm not as familiar with everything, and I've played against people who are, like, professional level, and of course, I get my ass completely kicked. But it was the game that I was always fine, you know, you were.

[A]

Really good at it.

[B]

Well, thank you. Yeah, it's the one where I'm like, I think I could beat most people at, like, your neighborhood level, but, like, once there's the pro. But my point is, once there's another, like, one or two iterations, and I'm that far removed from it, and kids are like, no, no. They've got a special kind of dodge now. That's gonna be my, like, oh, God, my youth.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's gone. All my hair is gray.

[A]

Well, you just have to keep that. You have to keep that gamecube with Melee on it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So that it's like, all right, guys, we've had our fun. Let's. Let's plug in the real game.

[B]

So I do this Brawl was actually mine.

[A]

You and I see, Melee was where I was. I got real good at that.

[B]

We played a lot in our dressing room.

[A]

Yeah. Random.

[B]

So random.

[A]

I remember. I remember playing Doug, and him, at one point, he got so mad, he, like, stomped on the ground, and people, like, came to the room and were like, hey, is everything okay?

[B]

It's just very powerful.

[A]

Oh, yeah. No, we would get mad. Yeah, I. Absolutely.

[B]

A little. A little tilted. I wouldn't say, like, mad. Mad is.

[A]

And we kept it respectful.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It stayed in the game. Keep it on the field.

[B]

But you were very good. You. I. I had to switch characters to play against you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I was playing Roy, and I had to specifically, like, start using the, like, bottom sword poke to get under your shield, because otherwise you were too good at shielding.

[A]

Yeah, Yeah, I was. I was pretty solid at that. I had. I had the methods. Brawl and Ultimate. Never. Never continued. I never put as much time into those as before.

[B]

Brawl was my. Like, I'm a teenager. I'm bored. It's summer.

[A]

Yeah. No, there's, like, specific periods of your life where it's like, oh, I Got real good.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

For better or worse in my life, I was really good at this game. Yeah. And that was. That was. That.

[B]

And that's the good stuff.

[A]

That. That was like, oh, Shane is not booking any work for those couple years. Why is he so good at Super Smash Bros. Melee? It's like. Yeah, because I. My acting career is not going how I want it to go, so I'm really good at this game right now.

[B]

You got. Everybody's got to have something. And you've been. You were my gateway drug to, like, Dark Souls and bloodborne.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

So you also have taken a lot of hours from my life through that, so thank you.

[A]

Yeah. But, hey, and now we're here.

[B]

And now we're here.

[A]

And now all that stuff is applicable.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

So it's kind of nice.

[B]

Thanks, man.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, dude. Good shit.

[B]

Good shit.

[A]

You play anything?

[B]

Right now I'm playing Silksong, which is the sequel to Hollow Knight, and I have. I'm liking it a lot. I have some mixed thoughts on it, and I'm also, like, not just a plug, but Damon, Ex machina, Titanic Scion. I've started playing, so. Because I'm, like, in a lot of it, but it's also just, like, a really fun game, and I'm enjoying it. But Silksong, Yeah. I think people were complaining online that it's, like, too hard. For anyone who doesn't know it's an intentionally difficult platformer game. Think of, like, Castlevania. Think of Metroid. And it's like, it's been anticipated for years. In fact, I got, like, a pin of the main character when I first joined Smosh Games.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like a game story went to. Because I'm like, oh, like, this one is coming out soon. This second one, and now it's out. Which is insane.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, like, people were complaining that it's too hard, and I was just like, no, it's supposed to. You know, you're supposed to be stuck on a part for a day, like.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Got to learn the patterns and all that stuff. And then I played it more, and.

[A]

I was like, oh, it's really hard.

[B]

It's more that the difficulty is fine. It's the tedium that kills me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's, like, a currency that you need to buy anything and everything, but you need it to also buy. Like, when you get to a save point, you need to buy the save point. And I'm like, why do that? That just breaks the flow of your game. Because now I don't have funds for anything else. And I have to specifically go back and beat the same thing over and over and over to build up the amount of funds that you need to get a new item.

[A]

Like, I can't handle that.

[B]

I'm like, no, you just made it tedious. But the challenge is great. Yeah, just, I hate it when stuff wastes my time.

[A]

Can I say a take that I, I, I was just thinking of just now is I, I think some of what's ruined gaming for me is that the Internet is there immediately to give me all the answers to everything. And I'm not very good at resisting that sometimes because I will get frustrated enough that I'll, like, be losing at something, and I'll be like, yeah, how to do this? And then I like, no. And then I'm like, like, okay, now I have the answer. Now it's, like, kind of ruined. Whereas, do you remember back in the day, like, early 2000s, where it's like, oh, I need to know what to do in this RPG. And you would go to a Word doc that's 5,000 pages long, and someone had written an entire walkthrough of, of like, oh, this is. You're trying to play Tales of Symphonia. Like, like, here's the whole walkthrough. Here's a table of contents. And I'm sitting there, just scrolling, and I'm like, okay, I'm on, I'm on, like, page 50 of this walkthrough. And you're, like, looking through, reading. I guess it's like, in order to, like, cheat. It's so much work.

[B]

You know what it was for me is you'd have to wait for your parents to go to a Barnes and Noble, and then they would get, like, a coffee and look at books. I'd be like, I'm gonna be in the video game section. And then you grab the, like, Ocarina of Time or the Final Fantasy 7 book, and you just, just skip through and, like, any, any summons that I missed. Oh, God, yes. Like, what's this puzzle? Yeah, just have to, like, lock it in and remember.

[A]

Yeah, it's like, it's. But now it's like, all the answers are there. And so it kind of. Because, like, some of the. The most satisfying thing in a video game is to hit something that you're like, I don't know, or, I can't beat this. And then you just manage to.

[B]

You're the one that told me about blueprints, and that's one that I've. It's Like a puzzle game.

[A]

Courtney and I were hooked on that.

[B]

And I think that's. It's awesome because I'm still playing through it, and it's. It really is a challenge to try to figure out some of these puzzles, but not, like, impossibly so. And I've, for the most part, resisted looking things up. And it is really satisfying when you're like, wow, I cracked this number. Or, like, I figured this out and. Have you. Were you looking stuff up or.

[A]

We hit a point at the, like, very end where there was a couple things that were just like. We just don't know. But, yeah, for anyone who doesn't know blueprints, it's probably. Probably. It might be my favorite game of the year.

[B]

P R I N C E. Like a.

[A]

Like a royal prince. Yeah. But basically, it's just like, oh, you inherit this house, and this house is filled with mystery. And every day you enter the house, the layout of the house is completely different.

[B]

It's kind of like betrayal at House on the Hill.

[A]

Yeah, it is a lot like betrayal. And. But every room has all these mysteries, and you're just, like, trying things out. You're like, oh, we found a note that has, like, a. A couple numbers on it. Like, maybe these numbers refer to a safe or something. So you're just like. Every time you discover something new, you're just. You're You. We had a yellow pad that. We had pages upon pages of notes, like, playing. And Courtney would be, like, writing stuff down. Yeah. And I'd be like. I'd get so hyped that I'd be standing up next to tv. I'd be like, now you see over here. So I think this is referencing that thing. Go to the notebook. What do we write? What do we write on that first page? What was that number?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So if you look at that, that corresponds with this. And, like, we were. We were hyped. And I'm like, if you just Google it, you ruin the whole fun.

[B]

Exactly. And that's. That's the really exciting part about it. Like, I have a photo album on my phone of, like, instead of taking those notes, every number that's popped up, every, like, book that I've read in Game.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I have it there. And so, like, it gets to the point where, like, I'm trying to figure out, you know, this one thing, and I'm literally looking at the book and being like, well, it said that this place had rainy weather, and it said that it, you know, in a different document, that the guy arrived there by train. So I know they have trains in rainy weather. I wonder if I put in, like, the rainy and train options if it's there and it'll work. And it's just like. Like, you feel so satisfied.

[A]

Really cool. But. But yeah, with games that I. I don't, like, look stuff up and it reminds me, like, I'm like, some of my favorite games were. There's a level of challenge that is necessary.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I think back on that first Dark Souls, and I'm like, dude, I love that. I remember playing that and just being like, I can't beat this. I can't do it. Then I was like, oh, I'm just go it.

[B]

You're, like, hooked.

[A]

And then you're like, I gotta keep going for it. And then you do it and you're like, whoa, I'm awesome. Yeah, you are. Hey, dude, thanks.

[B]

Hashtag. That's my Booster Gold.

[A]

But, yeah, I'm. I. Now I'm just thinking about Hades 2.

[B]

Hades 2 is great. Also, Shelby's in.

[A]

I've not played it yet.

[B]

Really?

[A]

No, I'm waiting for it to, like, be officially out. I don't want to play. I don't want to play a beta. I'm no beta, dude, you're a Sigma player. I'm a Sigma player.

[B]

You play Sigma only?

[A]

I only play Sigma. Yeah. So I'm waiting for that. I'm just still waiting. But that's. That's gonna be my jam.

[B]

So, Shane, how do you do it?

[A]

150 grams of protein a day.

[B]

Is that right?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You hit the macros?

[A]

Yeah, I hit those macros.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So that's pretty good.

[A]

That's what I'm attempting every day. Okay. I'm not always hitting that, but I'm trying to. Yeah.

[B]

I just. I could never do that.

[A]

Yeah, it's a lot. You have to drink a lot of water, too.

[B]

Hurts.

[A]

It hurts. It hurts. Water hurts me.

[B]

Water hurts. I'm like that witch in that one movie.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The green one. Wicked.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Water gets on her. Can you believe water never got on that lady the entire damn movie?

[A]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

That come up.

[A]

It's. It certainly bothers me.

[B]

Yeah. I still haven't seen Wicked.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. Don't tell Angela. She probably.

[A]

She'd be so mad. Yeah, she knows now. Yeah, she's, like, sensed it.

[B]

You know what? Speaking of which, for two podcasts in a row, send us to the zoo. Smosh. I want to see Angela learn about new animals because she doesn't know.

[A]

Doesn't know.

[B]

Can you imagine showing her just like the weirdest looking gibbon possible, and her being like, that's not. That's Disney World.

[A]

Or at the very least, I wonder if we can find a, like, non copyrighted, like, animal documentary that we can watch. And just like us reacting to, like, animal documentaries. Because she'd be like, what the hell's happening?

[B]

Here's what we do. We have a. We have an animal documentary thing, and then we splice in. I think it's a fan made thing, but it's Pokemon Earth, where they, like, make it look like it's like, oh, the woopers are now bathing in the mud to, you know, keep the moisture on their body. We just splice in little moments of like, that's a Pokemon. I want to see if she calls it out.

[A]

I w. I'd have had time to prep, Prep this, because if I had made that, because I was quizzing her on animals in that episode that we did, if I had just thrown in genuine Pokemon names in the midst of animal names and seen if she can decipher which ones are Pokemon, which ones are animals.

[B]

Like Mudkip.

[A]

Sounds like fish. Yeah, like a mud. I mean, because. Mudskip. Mudskipper. Right, A Mudskipper.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

Yeah. So, because a lot of Pokemon are just like, let's just take a animal and just flip a name out.

[B]

Out.

[A]

Or flip a. Flip a letter out.

[B]

Neato. Nidoran mail.

[A]

Exactly. Literally. Oh, and by the way, little, Little teaser for you guys. We are going to do a Pokemon episode in a couple episodes.

[B]

Oh, that's right. I forgot about that.

[A]

Yeah. I feel like we can just let people know that's gonna happen. We're gonna have Tommy on. And I, I. We were talking about it like, oh, let's have Tommy on the podcast. What should we talk about? And it was like, wait, we all love Pokemon.

[B]

We do.

[A]

We've never. We never get to riff like that.

[B]

No. And especially because Smosh got its start.

[A]

It's the foundation is Pokemon Foundation.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Ash starts in Pallet Town. Every town is a color. The palette is the place where you hold all the colors at the very start of things. Shane. This is our palette, which we paint.

[A]

That's crazy. Yep. Never thought about that.

[B]

I got Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres. We're counting. I guess we'll save it.

[A]

Save this. You're blowing my mind. I didn't know that, Shane.

[B]

There's so much out there you don't even know.

[A]

I guess I don't, but you Could. One of the last things I wanted to talk about was you. And I have so many inside jokes.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm trying to remember all of them. And I. I was writing down a bunch, but I wanted to go through a bunch of them and talk about their origins.

[B]

Right. Let's get it out there. Because people ask it all the time in comments. Especially, like, Pepper, like, which I feel like we've explained a thousand times, but.

[A]

We can explain it again.

[B]

Let's do it.

[A]

But let's start from the beginning. I think our first inside joke was more so a phrase that you were saying a lot, which was stay fresh, homie, get paid.

[B]

Yes. Stay fresh, get paid. From the song Buzzin by, man, I.

[A]

Think you just would say it a lot.

[B]

Rules. Stay fresh, homie get paid. Unless I'm getting it by from a different song.

[A]

But I remember on so random, you would just be like, hey, by the way, that.

[B]

By the way. Oh, dude, stay fresh and get paid.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, it was great.

[B]

It was just like a vocal stim.

[A]

But it was awesome.

[B]

I remember, like, you know, I vocal stim a lot. And there was a time where I did Hashtag as a vocal stim. I'd be like, oh, dude, hashtag bummer. Like, I would say that a lot. And there was a point, I think we were playing Brawl in my. In my dressing room where Doug was there, and I was just like, oh, hashtag. Like, whatever. And he was just like, hey, man, you have to stop. And I'm so glad he did.

[A]

I think that one because that was when hashtags were genuine.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like Twitter was about hashtags.

[B]

Sometimes you say something that you think is ironic, but you're still saying it enough that it's like, it might as well not be.

[A]

The amount of times, unfortunately, that that happens here at Smosh is pretty bad. We start with memes and we will be saying it ironically. The problem is we're saying it ironically and we're making fun of the thing. And then on camera, we're like, we continue that by accident. And then people watching are like, like.

[B]

Maybe two months later. People.

[A]

Yeah, people are watching. You're just like. You're just saying it comes across like you're saying it genuinely.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I'm like, that's a huge bummer.

[B]

I'm like, well, if you didn't watch 40 videos and really get to know me, then that's on you. Yeah, but.

[A]

Yeah, that happens to us a lot.

[B]

But anyway, I also think during that same time is when sort of you need more training. Popped out because we would always joke about just anime stuff in general. She's like, hey, Shane. And that's how, like, we made Anime Brothers.

[A]

That's so right. I forgot. Did we say you need more training in Anime Brothers in those sketches?

[B]

I don't think we did. And that's why I felt comfortable making T shirts about it for my stream.

[A]

I mean, even if we had. Who cares? They can't own that.

[B]

Disney the mouse.

[A]

Disney cannot own that.

[B]

Well, that. That was my website for a long time. You need more training dot com.

[A]

I mean, hey, it's. I forgot that it started that long ago though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, hey, pretty badass. Yeah. It's a great phrase.

[B]

I think my first, like, anime friend.

[A]

We definitely joked about anime a lot because I remember. I remember where Anime Brothers started was you had to wear like a very silly wig once. This was like one of the first episodes. You're wearing a very silly wig for a sketch. And I go, dude, that's. You look hilarious right now. And then we started talking about how you look like the opening screens or like character select screens for a fighting game like Tekken. Oh, yeah. And then you just. Crazy. And then you just started doing stuff. You were just like. You did a thing where you, like, you're like, you think you can beat me?

[B]

Is there no other way?

[A]

Round one. And we just were dying at this. And then I think from that we started joking about anime. Yeah. And then it. We created that sketch.

[B]

I would have, in a million years never remembered that. That was specifically how it happened.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That's crazy. The ashwagandha, the ginkgo biloba.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

How's your brain that good?

[A]

I remember, like, tiny little.

[B]

You got good brains.

[A]

I. I feel like I have huge gaps in memory, though. I don't.

[B]

Maybe that's protecting you.

[A]

Maybe. Maybe you're a sleeper agent from boring stuff. Yeah. From all my training.

[B]

I completely blocked out that funeral. It sucked. So boring.

[A]

Oh, dude. You know what that has me thinking about is us going and pitching those sketches to, like, the Disney people was always terrifying because it wasn't like part of the protocol at Disney. It was like, like, by the way, like, this is not technically allowed. Yeah, like, like. And so we couldn't have credit for it because it's like, no, you're the. The right.

[B]

It's not allowed because we would have to, I guess, pay you and credit you. They're like, we can't because we don't want to.

[A]

But it was crazy because we're like, 19. We're. We're like new actors on that show.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we're also still technically, like, guest stars on the show. We're not, like, technically regular because I.

[B]

Was in 23 episodes out of 24, so I'm not a.

[A]

So we're not technically, you know, on the show. Show. But we go and we're like, we have this idea, like, can we, like, throw it to you? And they're like, sure. And then I remember I also pitched that crazy sketch Waffle Cop. This is back in 2011. I pitched this sketch called Waffle Cop, where it just follows like, a trailer for, like, a regular police movie procedural type of thing where it's like. It's like, all right, here's your partner. And it's like. It's just a waffle on the ground. And the cop's like, sir, that's a. That's a waffle. He's like. Like, he's like. He's the best damn cop we've ever seen. And it's just like this cop, like, working with this waffle, and he, like, buckles into his car, and he just, like, turns to the waffle. He's like, now listen to me. We're going to play by my rules. And it's like, turns out this waffle is just, like, a great cop, but you never see it doing anything but just being a waffle. And, like, there's a part where, like, there's a. A. A culprit, like, running down the street. And all sudden they turn and, like, he's just on the ground handcuffed, and the waffle's just on his back.

[B]

This is, like, so way to go modern day.

[A]

But here's the thing. I pitched this to the. To the room of Disney people. I go. And then there's a part where the waffles been kidnapped by, like, by the mafia or something. And he's in an interrogation chair, and they're there with a gun pointed at the cut. The waffle. They're like. They're like, now you're gonna talk. All right. Oh, oh, you think you're better than us? How about this Russian roulette? All right, I'll go first. And then slowly, all the bad guys are dead because they all lose at Russian roulette. And then the waffle's just there. And the cops show up, and they're like, like, way to go, Jesus. I remember the Disney people were like, yeah, you probably shouldn't have told us that.

[B]

Like, so we have some notes. I feel like, you right now.

[A]

We're not gonna put that on Disney Channel. And I was like, yeah, for sure.

[B]

Fine.

[A]

I was like, yeah, but all the other stuff. Yeah, yeah, no, they didn't take it.

[B]

It was great, though. I feel like you should make that now also. Do you think in your heart of hearts that you got the idea for it from someone saying ROFL copter, and you made it Waffle Copper, maybe. This reminds me of the dream I had. Sorry.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

I had a very bad dream the other night that everyone was mad at me, but it started with Shane because Shane pitched a sketch to me and I was just like, oh, this. I'm sorry, buddy. Like, this is verbatim a different sketch that already exists. And he was like, I worked really hard on this, and you're a buzzkill and you always do this. And I just. I was, like, stressed for the rest of the night because dream Shane was mad at me.

[A]

I would not be mad at you. That has happened.

[B]

Oh, shit.

[A]

And. But it doesn't make me mad. It happens all the time. We write so many sketches, we're making jokes all the time, that so often I will say a joke and then I realize, like, oh, no, it's. It's. That was something in my head from a joke I heard 10 years ago. So I live kind of in fear of that all the time. But I also am like, nothing.

[B]

I'm kind of always gripped by parallel.

[A]

Really scared. But nothing's original. Like, I'm like, every joke has been technically made. Like, there's always some joke that I do, and I'm like, oh, that's probably. I probably got inspired from that. From an SNL sketch from the 80s. How it goes.

[B]

How it goes.

[A]

Yeah. I'm trying to, like, make my own twist on it. Yeah.

[B]

So you're not just to say in the camera, on the microphone, you're not mad at me?

[A]

No, no.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No. Good to know, dude.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

We're good.

[A]

More inside jokes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

This one probably lasted the longest, I would say, which is by me. In and out.

[B]

Out. Oh, dude. Yeah. Buy me in and out.

[A]

I totally forgot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That you need to buy me in and out.

[B]

I was going to say real quick, buy me in and out. Yeah. That was just a joke when we were roommates.

[A]

Yeah. And it started just from a genuine place because we would, like, often bring home in n out.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

It was just like an easy thing. Like. And when you're. When you're 20, you're eating so much fast food.

[B]

I had it for the first time in like two years. The other day.

[A]

Really, it was awesome.

[B]

Yeah, just I don't really do fast.

[A]

Food that much, so I don't either, but it's amazing. But we had it all the time. So it truly, it started off genuinely in, but then it just started to become a phrase we would just say.

[B]

Yeah, it was our like, you don't know how to say goodbye or like, you know, it's the well get out kind of vibe. And it's just like, well, hey, buy me in and out.

[A]

Buy me in and out.

[B]

Okay, see you later.

[A]

Happy birthday Stephen. You damn, I should have said that on the TNTL episode. Just threw that out there.

[B]

God, about that.

[A]

That just was a thing. That was another thing that you would just say all the time, Happy birthday Steven.

[B]

You like, what was the context?

[A]

I think you just said you had this like vision that made you laugh of like a kid's birthday.

[B]

So that was just Happy birthday Steven. So Happy birthday Steven was an image in my head of a sad little boy on his own. And then just like think of like an 80s like cool like parachute pants, Flavor Flav kind of guy with like two backup dancers just like directly in front of this kid. Like happy birthday Steven. Happy birthday Steven. And the kid's just like sitting there looking up blank eyed like it was just a kid at his birthday.

[A]

But then Happy birthday Stephen turned into for some reason turned into Happy Birthday Stephen.

[B]

I don't know, I think I just had a lot of goofy things I said and I was just an undiagnosed autistic man living in a fun house with his friends. And my profession was haha, comedy sketch. And so I would just say stuff and if it got a good response I'd be like, I guess I'll say that again.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, it worked out great.

[B]

And then there's pepper and then there's. And then there's pepper, which is the most important one. It's just pepper.

[A]

Pepper.

[B]

I get it.

[A]

People. I think people understand. I think if you're not understanding, you're just not thinking about it.

[B]

Yeah. So Cap's complaint. Yeah, we also got a few more. We got like the Tilda Swinton of it all.

[A]

We've got like Tilda Swinton was a big factor. When I got to actually go to a callback audition and read with Tilda Swinton I was like, this is hilarious.

[B]

Was that before or after the inside joke? I feel like that was. Oh, was that before? I feel like you read with Tilda Swinton. That was before, because we need to talk about Kevin. And then it was later, and that was. We forgot to talk about Kevin. Shit. Damn it. We forgot about Kevin.

[A]

I. I'm really hoping I get to audition for the sequel. Hey, we're bringing up Kevin again. That would be awesome.

[B]

Talk about the Kevin in the room.

[A]

Okay. We need to talk about the Kevin in the room.

[B]

We need to address the Kevin in the room.

[A]

The Kevin of it all.

[B]

The Kevin of it all. And then we have our Mario party inside jokes where I would just always be like, hey, man, don't lose your star. Or, like, don't lose. Don't roll a three. And it would always happen, and I don't know why.

[A]

Stating.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, there is nothing more heartbreaking. None of our. None of the Mario parties that we've recorded here at Smosh have matched the heartbreak I felt when we played it on N64.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Back in the day there, I got destroyed. I had one where I had multiple stars. I had plenty of money. I was doing great. And then one chance time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm.

[B]

Now destroyed everything.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, there's a Mario party one.

[B]

I love him.

[A]

Yeah, that was good. That's hard. That's a hard one to explain.

[B]

No, I can explain. Was like, recognize the sound one. So, like, you know, it'll show you, like, three different things, and it'll be like. And it'll close the curtain. It'll be like, which one made this sound? It'll be like. And you're like, oh, that was like a thwomp or something like that. So, like, they just showed a guy in, like, the curtain closed. And I was like, what if you just hear a gunshot? And Toad is like, no, I loved him.

[A]

No, Toad losing his lover, bro.

[B]

Juliet style.

[A]

Yeah, good stuff.

[B]

Toad just experiencing grief, I think would be just funny.

[A]

I think that's funny.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, we can all agree on that.

[B]

Hereditary. But with Toad.

[A]

Oh, we do also quote hereditary, and we sure do. Which is a funny movie. It's somehow the most messed up movie, but there's also comedy to it.

[B]

I want to die.

[A]

When I watched that movie the first time, that part, like, haunted me for, like, two weeks. But then after that, I think the only way to cope with it was we started just joking about it.

[B]

I think that is. You hit the nail on the head. We cope with grief and difficulty through humor. And that movie is so strongly full of grief, and they really. It's just palpable that afterwards you just have to joke about it.

[A]

You have no choice.

[B]

Actually, I learned something about that movie the other day that blew my mind.

[A]

What?

[B]

You know when. God. Oh, Toni Collette. She's never gonna Toni Colletta live this down. She has that moment where she's like, all you could do is stare with that stupid face on your face. Like, she says that to him and it's like, what is going on? Like, he's just sitting at breakfast. Breakfast. It shows later, like the kid turning and looking at like a locker or something where there's a reflection.

[A]

Yeah. And his face is like smiling face is almost.

[B]

So you're like. You're not realizing that he's just looking at her like an the whole time realizing it.

[A]

Oh. The face that we the viewer are seeing is not the intern.

[B]

What he's actually making is like this eating grin. And that's why she's just like, why are you standing there looking at me like that? And wow. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

[A]

Oh, man. Well, if you like horror hereditary.

[B]

And if you don't like horror, don't watch it anyway. It's funny.

[A]

Damien, I'm so excited to host more episodes with you.

[B]

Me too. This is gonna be great. I'm so excited.

[A]

Hey, Jinx, give me a soda.

[B]

Okay. Buy me in and out.

[A]

Okay. This is gonna be a blast. Thank you for watching and hope you enjoy the next few weeks. Yeah, it's gonna be a great time.

[B]

Time if you can flipping handle it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Get ready for more viral clips.

[A]

That's right. Thanks, guys. Thanks. Jacksepticeye.

[B]

Know you're watching, Sean. Thank you.

[A]

All right, bye. Bye.