Smosh Mouth Podcast #119 – Smosh’s Deepest Lore
Date: November 17, 2025
Hosts: Shayne Topp, Damien Haas, Ian Hecox (guest)
Theme: Exploring the concept of "iceberg" lore both on the internet and within Smosh’s own history, with deep dives into video games, pop culture, and Smosh’s obscure and not-so-obscure moments.
Overview
In this episode, the Smosh crew dives into the phenomenon of "icebergs"—internet maps that layer the lore, myths, and in-jokes of any niche, from video games to Smosh itself. After exploring famous icebergs (like Mario 64’s) and their own Smosh lore, they reflect on the collective memory, fandom myths, and the evolution of internet communities. The hosts get nostalgic and nerdy, trading stories, deep cuts, and inside jokes, and end by imagining their own Smosh “iceberg.”
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Warm-Up Banter and Pop Culture Chat (00:30–05:44)
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Icebreakers: The hosts riff about mobile games (Genshin Impact, Uma Musume), getting off makeup after shoots, and a tangent about beeswax production that morphs into a realization it’s like “bee dandruff.”
- "So for those at home who aren't up to date on bees, you know, new update just dropped." – Damien, 01:52
- They tease niche jokes, referencing obscure sitcoms ("Don't Trust the B---- in Apartment 23") and their LA billboards.
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Reality TV Frustrations: Shayne admits to resisting Love Is Blind despite friends’ enthusiasm. Ian bemoans toxic male behavior on the show and the overall lack of self-awareness among contestants.
- "Men gotta figure out what feelings are." – Ian, 05:44
- "At this stage, the only people who are signing up for that show... are lacking self awareness." – Shayne, 06:34
2. Theme Park Horror Stories (08:03–14:20)
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Rough Rides: Damien and Ian swap traumatizing roller coaster memories (Ninja at Six Flags and broken-down Disneyland rides). They discuss being stuck on rides (Haunted Mansion, Small World) and the chaos that ensues.
- "Every time you ride that thing, Six Flags Over Georgia, the ninja...you lose a couple IQ points." – Damien, 08:08
- "This is making me racist now." – Shayne, stuck on Small World, 12:47
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Pet Peeves: Shayne and Damien express their frustration with people recording everything at theme parks or concerts and not living in the moment.
- "It's like nobody's there to actually be there; they're there to tell other people." – Shayne, 15:48
3. The Iceberg Phenomenon Explained (19:05–21:13)
- Definition: Internet icebergs visualize a fandom or subject's lore, with surface info at the top and deep, obscure or conspiracy-level trivia at the bottom.
- Fascination: The hosts describe how myths emerge—especially in gaming circles—highlighting the joy of urban legends, glitches, and childhood rumors.
4. Deep Dive: Mario 64 Iceberg and Gaming Urban Legends (22:20–29:38)
- The group explores the Mario 64 iceberg, with surface knowledge like “backwards long jump,” and deep cuts like “Bowser broke the door” or AI-personalized copies.
- "At the surface, the top of the iceberg is like all the well-known things... then you get to the 'depth'—this is the lore nobody knows." – Shayne, 19:09
- "Every copy of Mario 64 is personalized... that’s the most chosen thing I’ve ever heard in my life." – Shayne, 27:57
- They bond over how these legends parallel their childhood playground rumors (Missingno, secret Pokémon, unreachable GoldenEye bases).
- "My cousin got the ghoul medal... Like, really? I'll ask him how he did it." – Damien, 25:00
5. Reddit Icebergs & Internet Forum Clichés (31:40–36:55)
- Reddit Tropes: Shayne reads from an “annoying Reddit comments iceberg”—“Happy Cake Day,” “Not all heroes wear capes,” “Sir, this is a Wendy’s,” “Not my proudest fap.”
- "Now, as a Reddit user, I can pretty much accurately guess the top comment of every single post I see. It's always a pun." – Shayne, 33:10
- Forum Culture: They comment on how popular forums devolve, while niche communities (bread making, bug identification, leather crafting) are still useful and wholesome.
- "The more niche it gets, the better Reddit is. And that’s the case for kinda everything." – Shayne, 37:00
6. Cartoon Network and Other Deep Fandom Icebergs (37:34–41:58)
- Fusion Fall & Toonami Tom: Damien shares lore about “Fusion Fall” (a CN MMORPG) and the evolution of Toonami’s Tom.
- Ed, Edd n Eddy Finale & Dark Kids TV: They recall the unexpectedly heavy Ed, Edd n Eddy finale and share a wild story about Uncle Grandpa’s creator posting a “canceled” sketch.
7. Building the Smosh Lore Iceberg (43:07–63:45)
- Shared Memory: The hosts attempt to map the Smosh fandom’s iceberg, sorting moments by depth—surface-level memes (the Bear Shirt, "Where’s Anthony?", Olivia’s jumpsuit, “I need to calm down”, Food Battles) vs. obscure or “deep sea” lore (Anthony’s Age of Empires website/maps, un-aired Jake Paul episode, Sleepover/Part Timers/Hard Times Timers, the COVID lockdown era videos).
- "Let’s say four sections—tippy top is one, deep sea fangly fishes is five." – Damien, on iceberg structure, 43:28
- "What would go on the bottom?":
- Anthony’s Age of Empires forum/map
- "Had one of the most popular custom maps... I put that at the deepest depths." – Ian, 49:05
- Randall (Disney channel inside-joke character), never-aired shows (e.g. "Ian!"), behind-the-scenes evolution
- COVID-era production woes and the "lost" era of the channel
- The “Every Blank Ever” paradox: most viewed, never discussed
- Anthony’s Age of Empires forum/map
- Meta-Jokes and Playful Theories:
- The “bottom of the iceberg” is where the absurd rumors go: “Shut Up was a candid recording,” “Ian’s name is Anthony,” “The Chosen is hidden in all Smosh videos,” “Shane and Damien died playing Doki Doki Literature Club,” or “Trevor is a clone of Rhett and Link.”
- "At the depths, there’s always some weird, vague statement... like the AI in Mario 64." – Shayne, 59:31
- "Shut Up was a candid recording." – Shayne, 62:32 (his favorite made-up theory)
8. Closing Reflections and Future Teasers (64:24–66:44)
- Shayne & Damien wrap up with heartfelt thanks, joke about hosting duty trade-offs, and a meta joke about big shoes to fill.
- "It was very special and I love it, and I thank you." – Damien, 65:34
Memorable Moments & Notable Quotes
- “Every copy of Mario 64 is personalized.” – Shayne, 27:57
- “Men gotta figure out what feelings are.” – Ian, 05:44
- “At the depths, there’s always some weird, vague statement.” – Shayne, 59:31
- “Shut Up was a candid recording.” – Shayne, 62:32
- “Let’s say, tippy top is one, deep sea fangly fishes is five.” – Damien, 43:28
- “It always makes me really sad, like, any venue now, just everybody's recording... they're not there.” – Shayne, 15:32
Timestamps for Core Segments
| Time | Segment/Topic | |------------|--------------------------------------------------------| | 00:30-05:44| Banter, Beeswax, Reality TV (Love Is Blind) | | 08:03-14:20| Theme park horror stories, public recording annoyances | | 19:05-21:13| Intro to Icebergs and their Internet/Fandom usage | | 22:20-29:38| Mario 64 iceberg and gaming legends | | 31:40-36:55| Annoying Reddit comments and forum culture | | 37:34-41:58| Cartoon Network iceberg, Fusion Fall, Toonami | | 43:07-63:45| Building the Smosh Lore Iceberg | | 64:24-66:44| Closing remarks, reflections, and gratitude |
Tone and Language
- Playful, self-aware, and nostalgic: Consistently irreverent, occasionally biting, but ultimately warm and inclusive. The hosts lean heavily into deep cuts, their own meme-status, inside jokes, and meta-commentary on the Smosh fandom.
- Willingness to poke fun at internet culture (“My brother in Christ,” “Not my proudest fap”), and themselves (“We used to do good April Fool’s videos, until you f---ed that up with your wedding”).
For First-Time Listeners
This episode is a smorgasbord of Smosh and niche internet lore—perfect for deep fans and anyone curious about how pop culture fandoms organize and mythologize themselves over time. The hosts go from light banter to the arcane depths of online legends, always with humor and a wink at the audience. Even if you’ve never seen Smosh, you’ll leave understanding the anatomy of fandom memory (and probably wondering what terrifying thing lurks at the bottom of your own favorite iceberg).
