#130 - Everyone Wants Us To Talk About This

Summary

Smosh Mouth #130 — "Everyone Wants Us To Talk About This"

Date: February 9, 2026
Hosts: Shayne Topp & Amanda Lehan-Canto

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Episode Overview

This episode is a "curated" Smosh Mouth, with Shayne and Amanda tackling a rapid-fire list of topics suggested by the whole Smosh team. No special one-off guest; instead, Selena crowdsourced questions and themes from across the company to fuel the conversation. The result is a fun, varied episode packed with Smosh in-jokes, rapid pivots, and the usual blend of pop culture nostalgia, fandom, and the hosts’ signature playful banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Smosh’s Busy Schedules & Recent Projects

• Amanda points out January as "the busiest month," while Shayne insists January/February are always the slow, “low tide” months for him.
• They discuss the recent "Smosh Hospital" live show, which Shayne creative-directed.
  • Shayne: “I came up with the story pitch in June... all the improv elements I was coming up with for, like, all of last year.” (03:35)
  • Amanda recaps the show's concept—lots of surprise doppelganger cast swaps and hidden improvisational beats.
• A brief (and tongue-in-cheek) Super Bowl chat—wild predictions, imaginary bets, and punishments: “If the Broncos win, I’m getting a perm. If the Patriots won, you’re going full platinum...” (05:01)

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2. Curated Topics: Rapid-Fire Conversations

K-Pop & Pop Nostalgia (06:34–13:25)

• Ollie pitches "K-pop’s comeback" (BTS off military service). Amanda and Shayne reflect on pop music eras.
  • Shayne: “What K Pop reminds me of is pop music in America back in, like, 2000... choreographed dances, flashy, shiny—N*SYNC, Backstreet Boys, Spice Girls. It was like that vibe.” (08:43)
  • Both admit they know more N*SYNC members than BTS, sparking a conversation about classic pop group energy.
  • Amanda: "Can you name any BTS members? I cannot..." (11:42)
  • Shayne: “The K-pop I love are the girl groups. I think the music just hits different.” (12:04)
  • Quick laughs about their old Smosh sketch referencing the BTS Army.

Pirates & Queerness in Pop Culture (16:48–23:06)

• Suggested: “Pirates and how they are incredibly gay (Black Sails).”
  • Amanda: “I watched a lot of Black Sails and then I couldn’t finish it because it just got so, like, sad. But... it is gay. Gay!” (17:00)
  • Shayne dives into pirate history, explaining how piracy exploded after a major naval war. Both reminisce about their childhood pirate fascinations (Pirates of the Caribbean, The Goonies).
  • Shayne shares about The Wager, a nonfiction book about British “legal pirates”—shipwrecks, mutiny, and indigenous encounters.

Conspiracies — Montauk Project & More (23:09–31:09)

• Alyssa suggests Montauk Project (inspired Stranger Things); general confusion and light research.
  • Amanda: “If you guys know about the Montauk theory, let us know...” (25:16)
  • Shayne: “My unfortunate, really abysmal take with conspiracy theories when it comes to government stuff is... government doesn’t need mind control and telepathy. Propaganda’s worked pretty damn well.” (26:17)
• Favorite conspiracy theories Amanda: JFK assassination (possible driver theory from The Octopus Murders).
• Both discuss the appeal and danger of conspiracy thinking.
• Shayne: “For some reason... all conspiracy theories lead to racism... every time it’s like, ‘oh, this person’s a flat earther...’ and it always is true... it somehow leads to white supremacy.” (30:33)

Pop Culture: “Heated Rivalry,” TV, and Movie Tropes (31:10–45:22)

• Sarah suggests "Heated Rivalry" (romantic sports series sweeping TikTok).
  • Amanda: “The acting is incredible. I started watching it because I was watching TikToks of the two actors and their chemistry is fire...” (32:24)
  • Shayne: “Gay pirates are out, gay hockey players are in.” (32:24)
• Favorite TV/movie tropes (Rain’s suggestion):
  • Rain likes the "girl pretends to be boy" trope (Oron Host Club, She’s The Man).
  • Amanda coins the “Enough Trope” (female revenge in response to abuse, e.g., Enough or Double Jeopardy): “The woman has been beaten down and she’s like, enough. I’m going to rig up this house and I’m going to catch ass and I’m going to learn martial arts.” (37:15)
  • Both rave about anime underdog stories, enemies-to-lovers, and the impact of sympathetic antagonists (“You have to kind of love the villain... that’s what makes a story mean something.” 43:12)
  • Quick tangents about Lord of the Rings (the power of Samwise), Marvel villains (Thanos), and Meryl Streep in The Devil Wears Prada.

Random TV: Lost & Deep Space Nine (45:22–53:20)

• Lost (Caroline’s suggestion):
  • Shayne: “That first episode is, I would argue, maybe the best pilot in television history.” (45:51)
  • Amanda shares the “Lost is purgatory” theory. Shayne thinks the writers didn't know how to end it.
• Deep Space Nine (Caitlin’s suggestion):
  • Amanda is wary of "commitment" shows.
  • Shayne: “If I’m going to watch Star Trek, I’m like, I gotta start with the 60s one... especially Star Trek, it compounds on itself.”
  • Imitations of Captain Kirk and Marilyn Monroe.

Animation — Smiling Friends (53:20–54:35)

• Shayne is a fan of Smiling Friends and the creator (“Psychic Pebbles”).
  Amanda asks, "Is it the adult Spongebob?"

Bidets (54:36–56:47)

• Anonymous pitch: “Why are they so controversial...”
  • Amanda: “I have a Tushy. I’m obsessed with it... The first time I ever saw a bidet was when I was a teenager and my mom and I went to Italy... and I just flipped it on and I was like—” (55:33)
  • Shayne: “I was a toxic American and I scoffed... Then I got one and I used it. It’s life changing.” (55:21)
  • Both recommend Tushy (without sponsorship).

Miscellaneous Lightning Round

• Johnny Appleseed (59:46): He was real; his apples were for liquor, not eating.
• Water Bottle Wars (62:22): Amanda’s into good water; Shayne jokes he doesn’t care.
• Sports Superstitions (64:14): Cubs’ Billy Goat curse; Simpsons-driven Broncos/Cowboys curse.
  • Shayne: “Since that episode of the Simpsons came out in the 90s, the Cowboys have not beaten the Broncos.” (65:16)
• Rubik’s Cube Speedsolving (66:32): Alexina, a Smosh staffer, used to compete; live solve by episode's end.
• Walmart (67:45): Gareth from South Africa is fascinated by Walmart, contrasts east and west coast stores, discusses military base shopping culture.
• Bladed Weapons (71:02): Chance asks which melee weapon they'd pick—Shayne picks knives, Amanda would be "knives in each pocket."
• I Love Lucy’s TV Legacy (71:57): Amanda Barnes pitches a deep dive—multicamera filming, syndication, inter-racial couple, Lucy’s physical comedy and business savvy.
• High School Musical (74:34): Selena suggests reflecting 20 years later. Amanda: “I didn’t really watch... every time our cast wants to sing the songs, I’m just like...”
• 2016 Nostalgia: Amanda met her husband, started Groundlings, posted comedy, and traveled. Shayne had just started at Smosh and did their first big live show.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On K-Pop nostalgia:
  • “What K Pop reminds me of is pop music in America back in, like, 2000... choreographed dances, flashy, shiny—N*SYNC, Backstreet Boys, Spice Girls. It was like that vibe.” — Shayne (08:43)
• On anime/manga underdog power:
  • “It’s always the theme; it’s always been in you vibes. That’s what I do like.” — Amanda (39:34)
• On conspiracy theories:
  • “For some reason... all conspiracy theories lead to racism... every time it’s like, ‘oh, this person’s a flat earther...’ and it always is true... it somehow leads to white supremacy.” — Shayne (30:33)
  • “My unfortunate, really abysmal take... government doesn’t need mind control and telepathy. Propaganda’s worked pretty damn well...” — Shayne (26:17)
• On pirates:
  • “You got a bunch of sweaty half naked men on a boat out in the middle of nowhere. What do you think’s gonna happen?” — Shayne (17:11)
  • “I do love pirates. I feel like also, as a kid, pirates were a huge deal.” — Amanda (18:25)
• On Lucy’s physical comedy:
  • “If you can not speak and make people laugh, it’s why I pitched our TNTL mimes back in the day...” — Shayne (73:57)
• On bidets:
  • “I, I was a toxic American and I scoffed at them for a long time. I was like, bidets? How dare you.” — Shayne (55:21)
  • “Tushy’s the best. It is affordable, it is easy, and it’s perfect.” — Amanda (55:17)
• Rubik’s Cube climax:
  • Alexina solves a live-mixed Rubik’s cube: “It’s solved!” — Amanda (79:38)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [06:34] K-pop and the Return of BTS Discussion
• [16:48] Pirates & Queerness (Black Sails, Pirate History)
• [23:09] The Montauk Project & Conspiracies
• [31:10] Heated Rivalry and Sports Drama
• [36:35] Favorite Movie/TV Tropes
• [45:22] Lost Pilot & TV Finale Talk
• [53:20] Smiling Friends / Animation Nostalgia
• [54:36] Bidets: Why Are They Controversial?
• [59:46] Johnny Appleseed & Alcoholic Apples
• [62:22] Water Bottle Wars
• [64:14] Sports Superstitions (Billy Goat, Simpsons Curse)
• [66:32] Rubik’s Cube Solving—Alexina’s Speed Show
• [67:45] Walmart, Culture, and Military Shopping
• [71:57] I Love Lucy’s Lasting Influence
• [74:34] High School Musical, 2016 Nostalgia
• [79:38] The Live Rubik’s Cube Solve

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Tone & Character

Shayne and Amanda’s friendly antagonism and Smosh-office in-jokes give the episode a breezy, affectionate self-awareness. The episode is energetic and scattershot, but consistently engaging. Amanda often pushes for emotional or nostalgic takes, and Shayne supplies fast facts, pop culture tangents, and off-the-cuff impressions.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is quintessential Smosh Mouth—entertaining and full of variety. It's a fast-paced, highly referential conversation that never lingers too long on one topic, offering a sampler platter of pop culture, fandom nostalgia, and Smosh’s own lore. Even if you don’t catch every reference, you’ll enjoy the playful tone, fun stories, and the genuine chemistry between hosts. Whether you're a die-hard Smosh fan or a casual listener, there's a quirky, relatable moment just around the corner.

Transcript

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[Shane]

Websites as October 2025 hi, welcome to Smosh Mouth. I'm Shane.

[Amanda]

And I'm Amanda. Just Amanda.

[Shane]

Our special guest today is actually kind of everyone at Smosh in a way.

[Amanda]

Yeah. That's so true.

[Shane]

Because what we have today is a curated episode where Selena reached out to everyone who works at Smosh and asked them, hey, what do you want us to talk about? And we got a list here of a bunch of varying topics.

[Amanda]

Yeah. If you guys want to see one of the other curated episodes we've done, we did one for Kiana's birthday where Courtney presented the episode that Kiana curated for us. And it was so much fun.

[Shane]

And I think pretty soon we're gonna do a Courtney episode.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Where Courtney's gonna come on and all of the topics are her pitches.

[Amanda]

Spoiler.

[Shane]

Yeah. But we have a bunch here today. But before we get into this, how you doing?

[Amanda]

I'm doing great. Nice.

[Shane]

Nice.

[Amanda]

I was just saying I feel I Don't know why January feels like the busiest month on the. It's like everyone in the world is like, okay, we rested, so we have to get back to everything. Like, it feels like everyone is trying to do it all in January.

[Shane]

It's kind of funny that you say that, because January and February for me are always very slow, empty months for me. What? Whereas the summer and fall. October is always. Hell, yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

It is the busiest month of my life. Same with September. September, October are nuts. And then January, February, it feels kind of like there's like, a weird. Like, it feels like low tide. And then. And then March, it starts to pick up. And by May, it's like, okay, things are busy. And then my. My summers are always so busy.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Shane]

I don't know why. It's not like I. It's not like I can foresee it.

[Amanda]

But maybe it's just my energy, because I really slow down in December. Like, I'm like, peace out.

[Shane]

I want to, but sometimes I can't see. I think December and then early January were crazy. Cause we did our Smosh Hospital live show.

[Amanda]

Yeah, we did that.

[Shane]

I was creative director for. So, like, I'd been working on that. So cool. I'd been working on that for how.

[Amanda]

Long were you working on that for?

[Shane]

I came up with the story pitch in June, and I was talking to George Primavera back then, and he. He was writing the script. I was, like, giving notes on it all throughout June and July, and then started working on production of it, and, like, all the improv elements I was coming up with for, like, all of last year and meeting with Jeremy to, like, punch up the script and add things, and.

[Amanda]

Yeah, it was so much fun.

[Shane]

It was really fun.

[Amanda]

You guys were doctors. If you haven't seen it, you guys were doctors. You guys were switching off with other castmates who were basically like, your doppelganger. Like, you guys became one, and then there were just surprise improv elements, and I got to be one of them.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Keith and Noah and Anthony and Damien and Chance. We all got to be like, surprise. We're here. And you guys didn't know it. And that was actually really thrilling for us.

[Shane]

I'll let you guys know if it becomes available again. I'm sure it will be available at some point, but to all those who watched it, thank you. Means so much.

[Amanda]

But, yeah, the letterboxd reviews are.

[Shane]

Yeah, perfect. And then. But, yeah, things are pretty chill right now as of this airing. The super bowl was yesterday, so.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God, I'm so Glad they won.

[Shane]

I know. I can't believe they won. Truthfully. Realistically, if I'm a betting man, the Seahawks won. The Seahawks won the Super Bowl. What if the Seahawks didn't win the Super Bowl? It was an upset and it was kind of crazy.

[Amanda]

What are you going to do if they didn't win?

[Shane]

Well, if the Broncos won, I'm getting a perm.

[Amanda]

We know.

[Shane]

If the Patriots won, I'm just really bummed out.

[Amanda]

So by this time, when this comes out, you're going to have a perm?

[Shane]

Maybe not yet. I maybe need to grow my hair out more. But it's on its way. It's going to happen soon. So if the Broncos won. Look forward to that.

[Amanda]

I can't wait.

[Shane]

If the Patriots won, you're going full platinum. You're trimming your eyebrows off, getting a spray tan.

[Amanda]

But I'll do, like, a little fun slit in this eyebrow.

[Shane]

You're going to do that?

[Amanda]

And then I'll make this one really, really thin, and then I'll be really tan, and then I'll just wear something silver.

[Shane]

Okay, great.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

So if the Patriots won. You're doing that.

[Amanda]

Low cut jeans.

[Shane]

Great. Show off my tan. If the Rams won, Scott's gonna make all of our content. Boom. Only. No more microphones, no more lobs. Only booms. Yeah, I love that. And then if Seahawks win, Selena. I don't. I don't know. What are you gonna do?

[Amanda]

She's gonna shave her head.

[Shane]

Yep.

[Amanda]

No, she's not. She has beautiful hair. She's not gonna shave her head. I actually. We can't have that happen.

[Shane]

Yeah, we cannot have that.

[Amanda]

We can't have that happen.

[Shane]

Guys. The Broncos have to win. But I. No matter what, Bad bunny crushed it. Crushed.

[Amanda]

Absolutely crushed.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Killed it.

[Shane]

Do we want to get into some of these topics? We have a lot of topics to talk about.

[Amanda]

Okay, so we asked everyone who works.

[Shane]

At Smosh, and some are anonymous, some said their names. So we know where some of the topics came from. But I have all the topic pitches right here on this. I.

[Amanda]

Hey. All right, let's get into it.

[Shane]

First one, K Pop. It just says K pop.

[Amanda]

I wonder who.

[Shane]

Who. Guess who you think it was. It was Ollie.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Shane]

They. They wrote BTS coming back from the military and having a music comeback and what their general opinions are on K pop music as a whole. Yes.

[Amanda]

What our general opinions are on K pop.

[Shane]

What we think about K Pop. BTS has been gone for five years. They.

[Amanda]

Because they had to go to the military.

[Shane]

They had to do military service.

[Amanda]

That's wild.

[Shane]

They were literally BTS Army.

[Amanda]

That's so wild.

[Shane]

And now the BTS army gets to come back. It was kind of. It was kind of. It had to be insane to be, like, the number one, like, musicians in the world. And they'd be like, we have to leave and go do something crazy.

[Amanda]

Thought. Is that why they released K Pop Demon Hunter? So people could feel a little bit satisfied in the moment?

[Shane]

Oh, well, K popped up. K pop is still gigantic.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Huge.

[Shane]

But it's. I mean, that movie did rock.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And I will admit, when I was scrolling through Netflix one day and I came across K Pop Demon Hunters, I was like, oh, this for kids. Whatever. That's what I'm talking about. K Pop Demon Hunters. Oh, my God. And then a couple friends of mine, my friend Shelby Young was like, have you watched K Pop Demon Hunters? And I was like, no. And she's like, I've watched it five times. And I was like, five? I was like, okay. At that point. She's probably watched it 20 times by now. And then I was talking about it here at work, and Ian was like, oh, I've watched it twice. People were like, everyone's obsessed with it. It does make sense.

[Amanda]

That makes sense to me.

[Shane]

And I finally watched it, and I was like, damn, this. This slaps. It's fun.

[Amanda]

I can't wait. I've not seen it yet.

[Shane]

K Pop rocks. I've been listening to K Pop for a long time. I think I started listening to it occasionally, like, at the gym. I want to say, like, eight years ago. Whoa. Just off and on. I'm more of, like, a singles person. I don't listen to, like, an album, but I kind of in particular love the first K Pop song that really. I was like, damn, this hits. Is that song by twice tt that. The music video. The music video is psychotic. Like, they're just. It just hits different. There's a type of energy. What it reminds me of, What K Pop reminds me of is pop music in America back in, like, 2,000.

[Amanda]

Yes, yes.

[Shane]

Like, in sync. When it was, like, choreographed dances. It was flashy, it was shiny.

[Amanda]

NSync, Backstreet Boys, Spice Girl.

[Shane]

It was like that vibe. And we kind of have lost that a little. I think it's coming back now because of K Pop.

[Amanda]

I think we thought it was like. I think we were like, oh, we've moved on from that. Cause it's not cool. But it, like. It was so.

[Shane]

It was so cool. I got served a video and I forgot about this. When NSYNC did the national anthem for the World series back in 2000, and they're all. They're all sitting there, it's like. And now to sing the national anthem, it's nsync. And there's booze in the crowd because it's a sports crowd. And they're like, nsync, this boy band. And they start singing.

[Amanda]

They slayed it.

[Shane]

And everybody silences, of course. And then by the end, everyone's like, yeah. Because they were that good.

[Amanda]

They were my boy band.

[Shane]

Oh, I loved it.

[Amanda]

No strings attached.

[Shane]

I had that cd, too. I was listening to that shit.

[Amanda]

Do you remember that music video with the model, like, running around like, whoa.

[Shane]

Music videos were crazy back then.

[Amanda]

Music videos were. They were. They were your resume. They were like. They were everything.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's the slow. Like the slow fade in and then all the end, you just hear, hey, hey.

[Amanda]

It's actually one of my favorite karaoke songs to do. Like, hey, hey. Bye, bye, bye, bye.

[Shane]

I miss how campy. Like, people would sing back then.

[Amanda]

Or.

[Shane]

Or.

[Amanda]

Or like jc. JC would come in and he's like. Like, he sings. So.

[Shane]

But Justin's like, what are your thoughts on Chris Kirkpatrick? Chris Kirkpatrick, You. You almost forgot.

[Amanda]

You mean Google? Google Goggles.

[Shane]

You mean Google? You mean Google?

[Amanda]

You mean Google Goggles? So he's there. He just got off a ski trip. He got off the ski list and he came in the back and it was like, yeah.

[Shane]

Do you think the goggles were his choice?

[Amanda]

I definitely.

[Shane]

Do you think he was like, I gotta figure out some way. No.

[Amanda]

Wardrobe was like, we have nothing for you. Put on the goggles.

[Shane]

You're goggles, man. Like, you're a guy who's going fast or swimming. But Joey, Joey Fatone.

[Amanda]

Joey's doing well.

[Shane]

Yeah, a lot of them are doing well. I don't know how, actually. You know what I say? A lot of them are doing well. I have not checked up on them.

[Amanda]

Lance. Lance Bass is doing well.

[Shane]

I've not checked up on a lot of them in a long time.

[Amanda]

JT had some. Had some things. But he's. I. I will forever love jt. I'm sorry. I love him.

[Shane]

Like, that era of jt.

[Amanda]

No, but I still. I still love Justin Timberlake. Like, that album Mirrors, I think it was called, is so good. Like, he's just an excellent, amazing performer.

[Shane]

But wasn't he. But he was. He was awful to Britney, though. That. That came out. He was awful to Britney and, like. And for that That's. I would say Britney Spears. Like, that's the biggest. Like, the biggest L of millennials when it comes to pop culture. Like, we completely let her down.

[Amanda]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

She. And she rocked. I was such a Britney fan, too.

[Amanda]

I was, of course.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

When her and JT showed up in.

[Shane]

All denim, that was a hit.

[Amanda]

But anyways. K Pop.

[Shane]

But anyways. All right, so back to you.

[Amanda]

Well, you guys know NSync members. Do you know. Can you name any BTS members? I. I cannot.

[Shane]

I name it. Jungkook is one of them. Right? Is that. Is that bts? Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah. So Ali says, yes, that's.

[Shane]

Jungkook is the only BTS member I know because he had a single that was a big, big hit. But I don't know all of them.

[Amanda]

Want to know how?

[Shane]

I don't listen to a lot of BTs. I'll be honest. The K Pop that I love are the girl groups. I think the music just hits different. I think, like, twice new jeans.

[Amanda]

Cat's Eye.

[Shane]

Cat's Eye is. Is Cat's Eye K Pop.

[Amanda]

They're. They're.

[Shane]

It's, like, modeled after K Pop.

[Amanda]

Okay, okay. Do you want to know how I first heard about BTS what's Up in a Smosh video? When we were doing a sketch. Member BTS Army. Like, the sketch that we did, and I was playing like this.

[Shane]

Yeah, General we did a sketch forever ago. None of us. I didn't know anything about.

[Amanda]

I didn't know anything. And people like, I stand bts. And I was like, I don't know what you're saying.

[Shane]

I don't know.

[Amanda]

What is it?

[Shane]

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[Amanda]

Who is it?

[Shane]

The BTS Army?

[Amanda]

These are just a bunch of teenage girls.

[Shane]

And Eric and me, technically, I'm 36.

[Amanda]

Anyways.

[Shane]

Oh, and blackpink.

[Amanda]

Blackpink.

[Shane]

That's the shit I love. Like, the sound is just a little different.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I feel like. And I rock with it.

[Amanda]

You rock with it?

[Shane]

It's super good, man.

[Amanda]

You Ashanti, rock with it.

[Shane]

Yeah, dude, I do.

[Amanda]

Is that Ashanti, or is that Aaliyah? Oh, my gosh. I'm now transported into this other universe.

[Shane]

We're back in time. Okay, okay, moving on.

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[Amanda]

Let's go.

[Shane]

Nice. Nice. Ollie, do you feel satisfied? Great.

[Amanda]

He said, not really. Actually, this meant. No.

[Shane]

Our next topic is pirates and how they are incredibly gay. Parenthesis. The TV show Black Sails.

[Amanda]

You better make sure. Black Sails. Oh my God.

[Shane]

So you love Black Sails.

[Amanda]

Okay, I will say I watched a lot of Black Sails and then I couldn't finish it because it just got so, like, sad. But the.

[Shane]

Really?

[Amanda]

Yeah, it did. But it is gay. Gay?

[Shane]

Well, yeah. I mean, you got a bunch of sweaty half naked men on a boat out in the middle of nowhere. What do you think's gonna happen?

[Amanda]

I don't know. Tell me some gay stuff. Yeah, totally agreed. I mean, realistically, pirates, it's such a crazy.

[Shane]

Well, you know what's wild about the era of pirates is it's such a short little period of time.

[Amanda]

But.

[Shane]

And it's because there was a big war. I think it was between. Was it England and France or. But there was a big naval war.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And then after that war, you had a bunch of sailors who were out of a job. And so it's like, what are we going to do? So like the era of pirates wouldn't work because it's not easy to learn how to run a ship.

[Amanda]

But there's still pirates to this day.

[Shane]

Oh, yes. But it's not like those stories scare me. That era of pirates was.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Crazy. I mean, there's always going to be pirates. There always was. There's pirates back in ancient times.

[Amanda]

What's. What's the main pirate's name again?

[Shane]

Blackbeard.

[Amanda]

The other guy.

[Shane]

Oh, I don't know. Black Sails. That. Well, there's Blackbeard, there's. What is it? I mean, Davy Jones myth. Jack Sparrow.

[Amanda]

Well, that's Johnny Depp.

[Shane]

That's Johnny Depp.

[Amanda]

That's drunk Johnny Depp.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Jack Sparrow.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Amanda]

Pirates. I do love pirates. I feel like we also, as a kid, pirates were a huge deal.

[Shane]

Oh yeah.

[Amanda]

Huge deal.

[Shane]

Well, it's because Pirates of the Caribbean came out when we were kids.

[Amanda]

No, it didn't.

[Shane]

Like 2003, 2001.

[Amanda]

Honey, I was frickin not a kid, was I? Okay, Was I a kid?

[Shane]

I was still at my last years of being a kid.

[Amanda]

Oh, yeah, maybe. I guess. I guess you're right. You're right.

[Shane]

I love those movies.

[Amanda]

I love pirates.

[Shane]

Oh, I love pirates. Because every summer when I was a kid, I would go to Key west and so we would be out on a boat out in the ocean in Key west, and I'm like, this is prime pirate time.

[Amanda]

Pirate time.

[Shane]

And I would just like. I was like, it would be so sick to be a pirate. Obviously, it wouldn't be. It would be awful.

[Amanda]

It would be awful. But in the Goonies, I remember watching the Goonies and I was like, oh, my God, these pirates are dead here, down here. And they're stuck. Oh, that sucks.

[Shane]

Yeah. In Oregon or wherever the hell it feels like a.

[Amanda]

It is. It is an Oregon.

[Shane]

They weren't there.

[Amanda]

No. They weren't there.

[Shane]

No.

[Amanda]

Pirates were not in Oregon.

[Shane]

No.

[Amanda]

But pirate to me was always like this mysterious, like, living out on the sea. Like, it always really, really excited me.

[Shane]

And then scared me crazy. Like ships. Like being on a ship, on a wooden ship back in that time. You're gonna die.

[Amanda]

Do you get seasick? No, same.

[Shane]

Not at all. I had a. Courtney threw me a birthday party once on the open sea on a. On a sailboat. And she surprised me with a sailboat and with a bunch of. A bunch of friends, and it was awesome. But, boy, did I learn how many of my friends get seasick because it's a sailboat, which is moving everywhere. I was having a great time. Of course, this is shortly after I'd broken my ankle, so I couldn't move around that much. So I kind of, like, was planted at one part of the boat. But, I mean, lots of people were throwing up over this. Whoa. I felt bad, but I had a great time.

[Amanda]

I mean, you had a great time. You're like, yeah.

[Shane]

People are like, I was singing sea shanties. But yeah, there's an incredible book I read last year. It's not pirates, but it's called the Wager. And it's a true story about how back in the 1700s, England was sending basically, like, hired pirates. They weren't pirates, but they. They were sent to go in and basically rob Spanish galleons because they were against Spain. And they were like, whoa. We got a bunch of Spanish galleons on the Pacific side of South America. We want to sneak this. These boats over there to go steal gold from them. I think it's something along those lines. And. But one of their boats shipwrecks at the bottom of South America, and they. They get stranded on an island down there, and nobody in the world knows about them because it. And so they were stuck for months on this stranded island. And there's a mutiny. And eventually multiple different parties try to escape, and the survivors from it are found. One is found on the western side of South America. A couple others were found on the eastern side. Months later. They had been out at sea. It's a crazy story. And it's all in, like, the 1700s. Just nuts.

[Amanda]

I'm. I'm low key, obsessed with shipwrecks.

[Shane]

It's. It's a. You should read it. It's incredible.

[Amanda]

I really should.

[Shane]

Because it's devastating.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

The. The funniest part, and this isn't spoiling because, like, it's. It's not like, oh, here's some big crazy twists. But there's a part where they're. They're down there, and all of a sudden these natives show up, like people who are indigenous to the area. And they talk about how these people were wearing, like, no clothing. They would. They would cover themselves in seal fat, and that's in, like, oils, and that's how they stayed warm. So they're like. These people showed up, they didn't have shirts or anything, and it's freezing out. And immediately they caught a ton of food and had a ton of stuff ready when they were trying to help these shipwreck guys. It took, like, one day for some of these dudes to be like, we should kill these fucking people and, like, steal from them. And so the indigenous people quickly were like, we need to get the fuck out of here. Yeah.

[Amanda]

Because they're smart and they're helping them.

[Shane]

Left them alone. And then they were screwed. It's like, you dumb asses. Yeah.

[Amanda]

Come on. These people are covered in oil trying to offer you food. Take it.

[Shane]

Yeah. If someone shows up covered in oil, helping me, I'm trusting them.

[Amanda]

Yeah. What is wrong?

[Shane]

It's an amazing. It's an amazing story.

[Amanda]

I love that. A wager.

[Shane]

Really cool.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Shane]

Really cool. And it follows all these real written accounts from back then.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Shane]

Because they kept, like, out at sea, they'd keep logs.

[Amanda]

Yeah, of course.

[Shane]

Like, that was the only record of anything. It was. Why so many blogs back then? Because otherwise, just, like, what happened? We don't know. Especially if there was A shipwreck or if people died.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

All right, moving on from sort of pirates.

[Amanda]

Sort of pirates.

[Shane]

The next topic is the Montauk Project. This was written, like, in Montauk, New York. So, yeah, this. There is a conspiracy theory. The Montauk Project. I looked it up last night. I think it was in Montauk, New York. It was back in, like, the 40s. It's this conspiracy that the government was holding experiments on telepathy and mind control and mind reading and all this stuff. It's the basis of Stranger Things. It's what Stranger Things was inspired from, really, because the government, apparently, was this. Also, I might be wrong. Was the Montauk Project also the Men who stare at goats? Is that. Is that a different.

[Amanda]

The movie.

[Shane]

Is that a different telepathy experiment that the government had? There's been stories about the government having, like. I'm sure the government's tried.

[Amanda]

That makes sense to me. Have you ever been to Montauk?

[Shane]

No, I've not been. I've only been to Manhattan and. And, like, a little bit of Brooklyn. I've not. I've not been.

[Amanda]

Oh, you haven't been up.

[Shane]

I'm not. I'm not like a big East Coast. I don't know east coast that well.

[Amanda]

Shane.

[Shane]

Been in New Jersey a couple times.

[Amanda]

Shane, we gotta get you tonight.

[Shane]

I know, it's crazy, too.

[Amanda]

Berkshires.

[Shane]

I mean, it's crazy because my first memories are of Virginia and a couple of D.C. but that's as most east coast as I have memories of. And. Yeah, I know I'm not an east coast guy.

[Amanda]

I will say I haven't been to Montauk, but I've always wanted to go.

[Shane]

Cause you can read minds.

[Amanda]

Cause I can read minds. And I've seen the show the Affair, obviously.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Who's ever seen the show the Affair? It's all Montauk.

[Shane]

Nice.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Pretty cool. But this makes sense to me. Do they think I know you only looked up quickly? Do they think this, like, stopped at a certain time because people shut it down or that it's still going?

[Shane]

Maybe. I mean, maybe it's like, oh, we haven't heard more about it because they did discover it's real.

[Amanda]

Is this Anonymous?

[Shane]

The Montauk? It's Alyssa, one of our editors.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God. We're not doing Alyssa justice right now because we don't have.

[Shane]

I just don't know. I don't know enough.

[Amanda]

If you guys know about the Montauk theory, let us know, because, I mean, if it's based Off Stranger Things.

[Shane]

Well, Stranger Things was based off the Montauk project.

[Amanda]

Can I ask this question, but maybe I shouldn't, because it's kind of a spoiler of the last episode of Stranger Things.

[Shane]

All right, all right, skip 30 seconds ahead.

[Amanda]

Spoiler alert. Do we think 11 died at the end of Stranger Things, or do we think she is alive and she, like, went to, like, a place with two waterfalls?

[Shane]

I think it's. I think it's your choice. I think it's whatever you choose to believe.

[Amanda]

I think Mike thinks that she's dead and he's making up this beautiful story, and that's my decision anyways. Montauk.

[Shane]

Okay. I. Yeah, I mean, look, this stuff is fun and interesting. I mean, my. I'm sure they ran experiments and they're like, yeah, it's not. We're not finding anything.

[Amanda]

Here's my deal with conspiracy theories. I sometimes struggle because I get really into them, and then sometimes the further I go, I go, mm.

[Shane]

I. I think my unfortunate, really abysmal take with conspiracy theories when it comes to government stuff is I'm like, government doesn't need mind control and telepathy. Propaganda's worked pretty damn well for. Whoa. They. Knowledge. They're just doing shit.

[Amanda]

True.

[Shane]

And we're just, like, seeing it. They're not even hiding it. But the government's dumb as fuck.

[Amanda]

I guarantee.

[Shane]

But they get away with this shit.

[Amanda]

They do. I guarantee. They've had people in, like, doing experiments on them.

[Shane]

Oh, they've done. They probably. Oh, they have. They've done some.

[Amanda]

They have.

[Shane]

In studying psychology, there's some atrocious experiments that have happened on people.

[Amanda]

Cool.

[Shane]

Moving on to the next fun topic. Next one. What conspiracy theory theories do we believe in?

[Amanda]

I. My God. The government said they were going to release papers about JFK and Marilyn Monroe, and I'm waiting. I am waiting.

[Shane]

Apparently, they need to release a lot of papers right now.

[Amanda]

Yeah, they do.

[Shane]

And they're not doing that.

[Amanda]

They need to release a lot of files.

[Shane]

They need. They do.

[Amanda]

Do you know what? I'm. Okay. There's a. There's a theory that I heard about JFK recently that I don't know is true because I am watching a conspiracy show on Netflix right now.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Amanda]

Anyways, there is a theory that JFK was actually shot by his driver. Have you heard this theory?

[Shane]

I have never heard that.

[Amanda]

Yeah, same. Except when I watched this show on Netflix called the Octopus Murders.

[Shane]

But he's right.

[Amanda]

Right. Right. Well, they're saying that the video that we've all seen is like. Is fake. Because how they're saying. And here's the thing. This is. When I. When I heard this, I was like, I don't know if this is true. I don't know if this is true. Because tons of people were like, what?

[Shane]

People were there?

[Amanda]

But they're saying the video that you see of JFK going down the tree in the background is floating. So you can. So it looks like it's floating and there's nothing there. So that's where, like, this is a botch video.

[Shane]

Oh, that.

[Amanda]

See, that's what I do. I go, whoa. And then I go, is it true?

[Shane]

I feel like. And this is. This is. This is ignorance. This is not me claiming anything.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I have not personally heard many firsthand accounts of people who were there, like, in that video, talking about what it was like to be there. I mean, what a horrible event to. Horrible, horrible event.

[Amanda]

But there. Those are, like, where my theories are.

[Shane]

You love the. You love the.

[Amanda]

Like, jfk, Marilyn Monroe, jfk. What was going on there? Unfortunately, when you dig into a lot of true crime, the. The most plausible answer usually is the answer.

[Shane]

But we don't want to accept Razor. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's. It's like we want something to be really interesting and stuff, but oftentimes.

[Amanda]

But I don't know.

[Shane]

Not. I think, like, I don't know what conspiracy theories I believe in. I don't. I'm not quick to believe in.

[Amanda]

People have theories that Elvis is still alive. Like, there's. There's guys. There's theory people. Yeah.

[Shane]

I love hearing when they get really insane. Like, and with the Internet, it's gotten really bad. Right. Like, because flat earth, it's like, how did we bring this back?

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I started hearing ones where people are saying that gravity isn't real. And I was like, damn, we're getting to. Really. In the movie Gravity, there's. There's people on TikTok who say that actually sunscreen is bad for you and that we need to get way more sun. And I was like, this isn't even serving any. Like, nope. I believe the conspiracies of, like, oh, to Big Tobacco, like, hushed all the research that. That smoking is bad for you. That's been proven true. Right. Like, those things are real because it makes sense. Like, there's. There's like a simplicity of, like, yeah, there was money to be made. Like, Dick Cheney made money on the Iraq War. Like, that's like, not a conspiracy. It's like, okay, you can put those. But when it starts getting to places where it's like, flat earth. I'm like, who makes money on this? And, like, that's my shitty reason for being. Like, I don't believe in it. Because who.

[Amanda]

Or like, vloggers, podcasters, people who have, like, a following, who have a hot.

[Shane]

I mean, now. Now attention makes money. So you can just say shit. And here's the thing. Say shit.

[Amanda]

People can believe what they need to believe, but once it starts to get, like, really dangerous and harmful, that's where I get worried.

[Shane]

For some reason, it's so interesting to. Especially when it comes to online conspiracies. Why is it that all conspiracy theories lead to racism? Like, every time it's like, oh, this person's a flat earther. I'm like. And they probably believe other things too. And it always is true. It's not like, oh, I'm just a flat earther. It's like, oh, and you also. Somehow it leads to white supremacy.

[Amanda]

Yep. Why is that always the case?

[Shane]

It's. I need to. I want a psychologist on to talk about that. Or a sociologist. A sociologist to be like, here's why it's always racist. Actually, yeah, we'll probably have some comments that can shine some light on it.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Yeah, I hope so.

[Shane]

Next topic, Heated Rivalry.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God, have you seen it? Have you binged it?

[Shane]

This was pitched by Sarah. I have not watched it yet. I plan on watching it.

[Amanda]

Get in your car.

[Shane]

I know.

[Amanda]

Go home.

[Shane]

Okay, look, look, here's the thing. Our viewers, our DMs, every one of us on Smosh, it's been all. Asking us to watch.

[Amanda]

Here's the deal. I. Okay, first of all, Heated Rivalry is a book. It's a New York Times bestseller. Pretty positive. So I. A lot of people are like, have you seen it? Have you seen it? Have you seen it? Which always makes me go, I don't now want to watch it. I watched it. The first episode. Yeah. Is like, whoa, okay. But the story is so good. The story is so good. It's kind of like. Like, when do we hear about hockey players? Like, gay hockey players who are not allowed to come out? And then I just think the story's lovely. The story's wonderful. The acting is incredible. To be honest, I started watching it because I was watching tiktoks of the two actors, and their chemistry is fire. Like, their friendship chemistry. They're just really supportive of each other. And. Yes. Okay. The first two episodes is softcore porn. Oh, okay. Okay.

[Shane]

Yeah, man. But gay pirates are out. Gay hockey Players are in.

[Amanda]

Yes. Do you know how many people are gonna be like, do you wanna go to a hockey game?

[Shane]

Hockey's gonna see a surge. Yeah.

[Amanda]

But I will say, heated rivalry is very, very good.

[Shane]

Everyone's talking about it.

[Amanda]

It's very good.

[Shane]

I gotta watch it. I am gonna watch it. I've been meaning to. There's just a lot of shows.

[Amanda]

Yeah. The first episode, you're gonna be like, we're in and I'm in. And they're in.

[Shane]

Everyone is in. Each other. Yeah.

[Amanda]

Everybody's in.

[Shane]

Yeah. And that's how hockey goes.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Watch them puck each other. Nice.

[Amanda]

No. Now there's all these tiktoks of hockey players stretching, which is the best stretch ever. But it's them stretching on the ice with their hips and they're like. And someone put like, the song pony to it. And I was like. And here we go.

[Shane]

Nice.

[Amanda]

And it has begun.

[Shane]

Wow.

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[Amanda]

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[Amanda]

Oh yeah. I remember you saying that you needed to find the right cat food because there's a lot of cat food that doesn't have good ingredients.

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[Amanda]

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[Shane]

Okay, I think you're gonna love this next topic. Okay, this was pitched by Rain, another one of our editors that an editor that slays it every.

[Amanda]

Every time.

[Shane]

You know, when it's a Rain video because all the comments are like rain slated on this one.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Favorite TV slash movie tropes Rain wrote. I like knowing why people enjoy the content they consume to give good recommendations. Personally, I've been obsessed with the trope girl pretends to be boy since watching or on high School Host Club and have watched every piece of media that has this trope I can find personally love when men have gay panic, but also love everything else that comes with the trope. It makes me think of the Amanda Bynes movie.

[Amanda]

Yeah, she's the man.

[Shane]

That's a very specific trope.

[Amanda]

Very specific trope. And I think they used to do it a lot more. They don't really do it that often now.

[Shane]

No.

[Amanda]

Which I. I Kind of get.

[Shane]

Yeah, I kind of get, but true. Do you have a favorite movie? Do you have a trope that it's like every time that happens, you love it.

[Amanda]

I personally love. And I'm just going to. This is not what it's called, but I'm just going to say, like, the. Enough Trope. The JLO Enough trope where it's like, the woman has been beaten down and she's like, enough. I'm going to rig up this house and I'm going to catch ass and I'm going to learn martial arts. I'm going to have a bunch of cutcenes where I'm training with a teacher. I'm going to have a burner phone and I'm going to lure you, and you are going to try to abuse me one more time, and then I'm going to take you down. Okay, I. I just created. I coined this term. Enough. Whatever. I don't know what it's called, but it's like, enough.

[Shane]

Like, she's had enough.

[Amanda]

It's like revenge. Like, female. Yeah, Double jeopardy.

[Shane]

Yeah, Double jeopardy.

[Amanda]

One of my favorite, like, back in.

[Shane]

The day movies kind of vengeance.

[Amanda]

It's. It's.

[Shane]

You like a little bit of revenge.

[Amanda]

It's specific, though. It's like abusive relationship vengeance.

[Shane]

Yeah. Okay. That's a very specific trope.

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Shane]

There is a new subreddit that I've been getting served a lot, which is just movie tropes. And it goes into very specific ones that I love. And it had one recently. And what. What they do is they give a couple examples in the post and then people in the comments, all they comment is other examples of the trope.

[Amanda]

Oh, I want to.

[Shane]

And there was a great one recently where it was like, main character has a weakness that gives them an advantage against the opposition. And the example they used is the episode of Futurama where they go up against these super brain alien monsters and Philip J. Fry, the main character, he's the only person who can go into their planet and, like, is a threat to them because he's so stupid that his brain is unaffected by them because they can mind control other people.

[Amanda]

I love that.

[Shane]

But his brain is so stupid that there's nothing for them to control. It's fucking awesome.

[Amanda]

Wait, okay, so this is. This is kind of a protagonist trope in, like, every Romantasy book is these. They call them half breeds, so they're half human, half magical.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Amanda]

So in the fantasy world, Pure Breed is like the best. Right. We can relate it to a Lot of things, yes. These half breeds are always looked down upon.

[Shane]

Right.

[Amanda]

Because they don't have 100% magic or whatever.

[Shane]

Right.

[Amanda]

But they always have something that the others don't. Right. It's always their underdog story. They actually are always meant for something greater because they have to dig deep.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

And it's basically the theme is like it's always been in you vibes. That's what I feel like. That's what I do. Like.

[Shane]

Those tropes I love. I love a lot of like these are kind of like very anime tropes. But I always love an underdog story. Like it's the thing. It's anime and it's sports movies. It's like you don't have enough kid. You're not able to make it. And then they do it. I love also when like in like superhero or fantasy context, when the person does not have powers when everybody else does, but they just find a way to overcome and this person doesn't have powers. The main character, the protagonist does not have powers, but just works so hard and goes so hard.

[Amanda]

That's kind of like the half breed theory slightly.

[Shane]

There's a. There's a very satisfying. There's an anime called My Hero Academia where it's a world where the majority of the world has powers of some varying degrees. And this main character wants to be a hero. So. And at a certain age you find out if you're gonna get powers or not and he finds out he doesn't. And then more stuff happens. But he's just so determined to like become a hero.

[Amanda]

I love that.

[Shane]

It's very much like. That's so many animes is just I want to do this thing. You can't. But I'm gonna work so hard that it's gonna happen.

[Amanda]

Right.

[Shane]

And I love that shit.

[Amanda]

Yeah. It's like that. That theme, that lesson that it's like it's. It's in you.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Amanda]

You don't have to. It's. The outside world is not going to give you your power. It's in you.

[Shane]

Or that. And also that you're gon own version of your power.

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Shane]

There's another show that was like that too. And I forget what it was called. It was a story where it's like the main character's like a prince, but he's like literally the weakest person in the world. He finds out. It's like you are the weakest person on planet Earth, but he finds his own way of being like. Of overcoming obstacles in his own Is.

[Amanda]

This not also Lord of the Rings? Yeah, in its own way, does a lot of things.

[Shane]

But like, Frodo's a perfect example because Frodo's a hobbit, but his willpower is stronger than her. But ultimately, the real power is Samwise Gamgee.

[Amanda]

Sam.

[Shane]

Sam's that Love, Sam. Love. Love and loyalty conquers all. Mr. Frodo. Mr. Frodo.

[Amanda]

Mr.— Frodo.

[Shane]

No, I can't carry it. But I can carry you.

[Amanda]

Saab.

[Shane]

That movie. I watched all three of those movies on a flight on the way back from Japan. I was like, all right, it's time.

[Amanda]

I watch them every Christmas.

[Shane]

They're perfect.

[Amanda]

Christmas every single Christmas.

[Shane]

Oh, I do have to say the other tropes that I love really quick. I love any version of Enemies to Lovers.

[Amanda]

I was just going to say that.

[Shane]

Or Rivals to Friends.

[Amanda]

I was just going to say that.

[Shane]

That's another very anime one.

[Amanda]

That's another romantic.

[Shane]

Vegeta. Vegeta and Goku. Come on.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Yeah. But Enemies.

[Amanda]

Enemies to Lovers and Feyre. Come on.

[Shane]

Enemies to Lovers is awesome.

[Amanda]

Enemies to Lovers is my absolute favorite. But there is a way to do it. Right. I think some people rush the storyline. The best Enemies to Lovers is like, that perfect mix of, like, we don't like each other. We're getting a relationship. We're forced to work together somehow. We're forced to be together. Force, proximity. There's something going on. But it has to have enough time to really let.

[Shane]

You need to really believe it.

[Amanda]

And they have to hate them. But they can't be, like, super crazy mean.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Because that. It's like, it's tricky.

[Shane]

It has to be justifiable, and that's hard to do. Right. You have to kind of like, support both of them.

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Shane]

They need to both have their legitimate reasons.

[Amanda]

Enemies to Lovers is my absolute favorite.

[Shane]

Yeah. I mean, to me, with most stories, because it kind of makes me think of just enemies and rivals. I think almost all stories, how good they are depends upon the antagonist. A bad antagonist makes the story mean nothing.

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Shane]

Right. And you think about so many movies and TV shows that are incredible, and it's because the antagonist was perfect. Right. Like, this is why people talk about.

[Amanda]

Give an example.

[Shane]

Thanos in Marvel. Right? Thanos. So many Marvel movies are kind of nothing and they kind of have been forgotten. But Avengers is so awesome because Thanos had such a. Like, you believed him in his commitment.

[Amanda]

He's like the dad that's like, let me talk to you.

[Shane]

He wasn't evil. For being evil. Like, he truly believed his own shit.

[Amanda]

Which is the best villain.

[Shane]

And he was such a, like, kind of human villain for being such a crazy, fantastical being. It makes him so engaging and entertaining. I'm trying to think of other really good villains on a more subtle scale, like Maleficent. Yeah. I was also gonna say a weird one is like Devil Wears Prada. Oh, is Meryl Strength in that? Like, is such a perfect villain because it's like, holy shit. Like, I have to go against you, but I. But I also love you. Oh, and Darth Vader. You have to kind of love the villain. You have to, like, really enjoy seeing them on screen. But also so much of Star.

[Amanda]

So much of Star Wars. Kylo Ren, like, towards the end of. What was that movie that he's in? Like, that last movie that he was in? Oh, is that the Last Jedi?

[Shane]

No. Rise of Skywalker?

[Amanda]

No, something else. Rey.

[Shane]

Rey. Star Wars? Yeah. Like, Glup Shito in Star Wars. Okay. Glup Shido. Okay, moving on.

[Amanda]

I could go on forever, but moving on. Well, because we have to.

[Shane]

We have a Reddit episode we're gonna do soon, and I will bring up the character thing. Okay. The next topic is another TV show. The ABC primetime television show Lost, which I was obsessed with. I was obsessed with Lost. Would they push the button in the hatch? Man of science or man of faith? Would you do well in a plane crash on a deserted island situation?

[Amanda]

Here's the deal. I did not watch Lost, but I read an article about all of it.

[Shane]

But I heard about it from my cousin once.

[Amanda]

Nope. I read, like, a whole deep dive article about the ending, and I was like.

[Shane]

See, I. I was. I watched Lost when it was airing, and I caught up to it when it first aired. It was such a cultural phenomenon, because that pilot is. I would argue that is maybe the best pilot in television history.

[Amanda]

Really?

[Shane]

That first episode is amazing. It sets up a million characters, which is such a hard feat. It ends. I mean, okay, I'm gonna spoil the first episode.

[Amanda]

I think it's okay, right?

[Shane]

You're like, okay, they're cracking. All you know is like, they're crashing on this island, and this is crazy. And. And then you're kind of just like. All these characters are kind of, like, finding their way to each other and figuring out what's going on.

[Amanda]

Cause they don't know each other.

[Shane]

But. But the episode kind of has this big climactic moment where Locke, the guy who's you find out, was in a wheelchair on the plane. He's standing up and walking on the beach, and it's like. That's all you needed to just set up. Like, this island is weird. And that's kind of the premise of the whole show.

[Amanda]

Can I tell you what the theory of that I read is? Is? Can I tell you?

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Well, I don't know if this is the answer.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Amanda]

I don't know what the answer is.

[Shane]

They never. A lot just kind of never got answered.

[Amanda]

Okay. This person's theory or the article that I read theory was that they died that first episode.

[Shane]

Well.

[Amanda]

And the rest is purgatory. Which. Which that's.

[Shane]

That was like the theory while we were watching it. And it kind of. But it's.

[Amanda]

The main theory.

[Shane]

That's. The main theory was that it was purgatory. That they're kind of in a weird.

[Amanda]

What do you think?

[Shane]

I think the writers got in over their heads. I think they didn't know. I think they truly did know.

[Amanda]

You think they ended it and didn't know?

[Shane]

Well, this was network television. I think originally they wanted it to be one season, Then they wanted it to be three seasons, but they kept getting pushed for how many seasons? Six seasons. And there's a lot of seasons where it's like, this season wasn't necessary. Seasons one through three are some of the most engaging television I've ever watched. And then four through six is kind of like they're. They're figuring it out.

[Amanda]

Is this Anonymous?

[Shane]

This was Caroline.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Shane]

Who was two years old when Lost came. Our next one. This one's great. I needed to get to this one. This person writes in. My special interest is keeping my career intact. My career and reputation is taking a major hit from my Mr. Chips branding, and now I need a PR team to fix it.

[Amanda]

It.

[Shane]

So Jonathan. When Damien co hosted with me, it was a rough time for Jonathan.

[Amanda]

I'm glad that I wasn't here, actually, so I don't. I don't have to take any blame.

[Shane]

Well, Jonathan needed you here. Because he did.

[Amanda]

Because I would have.

[Shane]

I would have supported him. He was on his own with Damien.

[Amanda]

And stuck up with him. So tell me.

[Shane]

There was an episode where Damien and I were hosting, and Jonathan was trying desperately to open up a package of something, and Damien was like, I'm sorry, is there an old lady opening Werther's Original somewhere in the studio? I look over and I see Jonathan across the room, just kind of like. And then later on, Damien, I. I think this was. Oh, this was. Angela was here. Jonathan's Phone went off. And then Damien goes, oh, if it isn't Mr. Chips.

[Amanda]

You know what, Jonathan? Jonathan.

[Shane]

Those were the two times that Jonathan had.

[Amanda]

Jonathan does this.

[Shane]

If you do, Damian.

[Amanda]

Damien could be talking. And then all of a sudden, he goes, did you guys hear that pin drop? Like he. He hears it all.

[Shane]

Nothing escapes Damian.

[Amanda]

Listen, Jonathan.

[Shane]

It's like the Eye of Sauron, Lord.

[Amanda]

Of the is an icon. Okay? Mr. Chips.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Amanda]

That name is dead and gone, ladies and gentlemen.

[Shane]

Yes. Jonathan's loving this.

[Amanda]

It's Jonathan. Okay. It's. It's okay. Can we get you on set? Jonathan, Am I right?

[Shane]

Jonathan?

[Amanda]

Jonathan.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Amanda]

Snatched.

[Shane]

Snatched.

[Amanda]

Mr. Chips. Mr. Chips is dead. Mr. Chips is gone. Also, Werther's are delicious and old people do love them.

[Shane]

So we got a bunch of packs of Werther's Originals to pull a prank on Damien. Ever since, Selena has a couple packages on her desk, and I'll. I'll sneak one of them every now and then. And they are amazing.

[Amanda]

Do you know what they look like?

[Shane]

What?

[Amanda]

Troll bellies.

[Shane]

What the fuck are you talking about? You guys, I just can't get over. There's a Nick Kroll joke from oh, hello on Broadway where they say Werther's Originals are the amber alert of caramels. It's all I think about. It's one of the funniest jokes of all time.

[Amanda]

No, they're troll bellies.

[Shane]

Okay?

[Amanda]

Did you ever have those Norwegian trolls growing up?

[Shane]

I know what you're talking about.

[Amanda]

The ones with the crazy hair, the troll movies, the cute little belly. Trolls. Trolls. Okay, okay, okay. They look like a trolls belly.

[Shane]

All right, moving on.

[Amanda]

Great.

[Shane]

We're going to skip down a couple because someone brought up heated rivalry again. Caitlin brought up another TV show. Star Trek. Deep Space Nine. She says my favorite TV show. And I believe it created the blueprint for a lot of prime type prestige dramas that followed. It would be hard to discuss it without watching all 176 episodes, but I would love if they could watch the pilot if they are willing to do that. Or just, I don't know, look at pictures of the characters and try to figure out who they are and what their deal is. I just wish more people would talk about this show at all. Well, I think your quark.

[Amanda]

Show me a picture. If. If Cork looks like Grinch, you're dead, buddy.

[Shane]

Okay, I'm going to show you Cork.

[Amanda]

If Cork looks like baby Grinch, I'm.

[Shane]

Just like, they look like this.

[Amanda]

What is wrong with you?

[Shane]

Okay, what is.

[Amanda]

Actually, can we put it was the only character.

[Shane]

It was the only name I knew from the show.

[Amanda]

You think I look like that?

[Shane]

No.

[Amanda]

Thank you. Great eyebrows.

[Shane]

So I was Googling. I looked at that. I did some Googling last night, and a lot of lists put Deep Space Nine as the best Star Trek show of all time.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Shane]

Yeah. Star Trek is just such a commitment, man.

[Amanda]

It's so. It's such a commitment.

[Shane]

I don't know if you're like this, but I am someone that. I'm like, if I'm gonna get into a new show or an IP and it's committing, people go, oh, you can start on season four. Or, oh, you can start with the sequel series. I'm like, I can't. I need to know everything.

[Amanda]

I am going to Google from the person who created it, the order to watch it in, read it in, whatever. That's me.

[Shane]

See, like, if I'm gonna watch Star Trek, I'm like, I gotta start with the 60s one. I have to. Especially Star Trek.

[Amanda]

It compounds on its with what's his name?

[Shane]

William Shatner.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And.

[Amanda]

And that guy, Leonard.

[Shane]

Leonard Nimoy.

[Amanda]

Yes. Wasn't he in Star wars too?

[Shane]

No, thank you. I'd have to start here.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Shane]

That was Captain Kirk.

[Amanda]

Do that impression anywhere.

[Shane]

Oh, I do.

[Amanda]

People would love it.

[Shane]

I do that all the time. Oh, wow, Spock, We've encountered a strange planet.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Shane]

That Captain Kirk. Wait, when I was a kid, that was one of my first impressions, where my parents and other people would be like, oh, he's so good at impressions. He should get into acting. I'm over here just quoting Family Guy.

[Amanda]

Do you know what mine was? Was Marilyn Monroe. Mr. President, you're eight years old. Happy birthday to you. I'm not even kidding to you. That was mine.

[Shane]

Oh, pretty cool. That's pretty cool.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And then you talk about the JFK assassination like, she's 8 years old. Who killed JFK, guys?

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

You'd be like, all right, enough of that impression. Who do we think killed jfk? All right, the next one. We have all these TV shows.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Shane]

Someone said smiling Friends.

[Amanda]

I know you watched that.

[Shane]

I have not seen it funny or terrifying. Is it the adult spongebob? This is Anonymous. I am obsessed with smiling friends. But here's the thing. I was obsessed with the animator when he was just making stuff on YouTube, like, 14 years ago.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Shane]

Deep cut. Yeah. Big fan. His name was Psychic Pebbles. And he would make these wacky, wacky sticks. Like, imagine how insane, like, when you watch old smosh sketches from, like, 2010. And you're like, whoa, this is crazy. That era was nuts. Times that by a million. And that was animation on YouTube. And I was obsessed with, with animation. Was that salad fingers, solid fingers was one of them. This is even crazier. This was like salad fingers made me go. Because salad fingers, like, truly that, like, kids were watching that stuff. This was not appropriate for kids at all. In fact, a lot of old animation, when I pull it up, it's same with any old YouTube video. You'll be like, oh, my God, my favorite YouTube video from 2009. And you pull it up and you're going, oh, my God, I forgot what they're saying in this. There's a lot of that. But Smiling Friends, the TV show, is so funny. I don't know if you'd find it funny. You would find. I think you would find. I think I would anything funny. You would.

[Amanda]

That's not true.

[Shane]

But I think if something is really funny, even if it's not your style of comedy, you would appreciate it.

[Amanda]

I would, yes.

[Shane]

It's very, like, quick paced.

[Amanda]

It's a lot of, like, comedy has to surprise me.

[Shane]

Smiling friends would surprise. Okay, it would. 100%.

[Amanda]

All right, then I'm in.

[Shane]

All right, next, bidets. Why are they so controversial? How is everyone not immediately team bidet? If you got poop on your hand, you wouldn't just wipe it off with paper, you'd wash it. Shane just went to Japan and probably met a top tier bidet and maybe has a strong opinion on this. Maybe we should get tushy to sponsor this episode. This is anonymous.

[Amanda]

Here's the deal. Why are you getting poop on your hand first?

[Shane]

Yeah, we got to talk about something else.

[Amanda]

I have a tushy. I'm obsessed with it. We have bidets. I love them. They are everything.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Stop getting poop on your hand. I just have to say that again. Tushy's the best. It is. It is. It is affordable. It is easy and it's perfect.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Like, you just clean it up.

[Shane]

This is a free ad read for them.

[Amanda]

Oh, seriously?

[Shane]

I, I, I was a toxic American and I scoffed at them for a long time. I was like, bidets on the dare, you. And then I got one and I used it. I was like, this is life changing, Isn't it?

[Amanda]

Life changing?

[Shane]

This is life changing.

[Amanda]

The first time I ever saw a bidet was when I was a teenager and my mom and I went to Italy on a special trip. We fought maybe 95% of the time, but it was really fun. I was an asshole. I'm not even kidding. I was like, I want to talk to my boyfriend. Nightmare. No. Awful. I really. I do regret it. I tell her this. I'm like, I regret that. And she was like, thank you for saying that.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Amanda]

But there was a bidet in where we were staying and I just flipped it on and I was like. And it was just like. I had no. I had no idea.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's. Oh. And so I went to Japan and they are insane there. Oh, seat warmers.

[Amanda]

Seat warmers.

[Shane]

Not only bidets, but also, like a dryer. Oh, all this stuff.

[Amanda]

If you've. There's, like one restaurant in LA that has, like one of those toilets.

[Shane]

It's insane.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

You have like a whole mainframe on the wall.

[Amanda]

It's. It's.

[Shane]

You're, like pressing all these buttons.

[Amanda]

They're expensive as hell.

[Shane]

You get a free bbl. How. Moving on. No, no, I'm just kidding. Oh, is that where you came from? It's truly incredible. It's like, man, this is so much cheaper than having all this toilet paper all the time. You make this investment, you just hit the thing.

[Amanda]

It's like, it's so great. Drives you.

[Shane]

I know.

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[Amanda]

This episode of smosh Mouth is sponsored by Tovala. Shane, I have an issue. I have been ordering way too much takeout. I mean, it is burning a hole through my wallet. I need to stop.

[Shane]

We've all been there. You need to be cooking at home.

[Amanda]

I know. Well, thank you for telling me. But here's the thing. I love cooking. But like, I'm getting uninspired. I don't know what to cook anymore.

[Shane]

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[Amanda]

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[Amanda]

Do you feel better?

[Shane]

Back to the show. Our next topic. They wrote Johnny Appleseed. This is anonymous, but we know that it's got to be Luke. His sweat, okay? Especially because they wrote his sweatborgianism. The fact that he would keep dry rusk in his pocket to hand to children. The fact that his apples were not domesticated and couldn't be eaten but could be used to make liquor. Kept a pot on his goddamn head. Yeah, Johnny Appleseed, I guess was a real guy.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

So I walked one time at lunch I walked over and was hanging out with Luke and Marcus and Matt Duran and Alexina, and they were all laughing, and Luke was like, no, Johnny Appleseed is a real guy. And I was like, this is what you guys are talking about. And he was going on a rant about how Johnny Appleseed was a real.

[Amanda]

Person who just spread seeds, and that's where the trees.

[Shane]

Seeds. But they were cider apples. They weren't apples.

[Amanda]

They were alcoholic.

[Shane]

They were for making cider. I think cider was a bigger deal back in the day.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Courtney's so bummed that cider's not a bigger thing. It's her favorite thing, and it's kind of going away.

[Amanda]

I know. It is. Which is so sad, because I love cider.

[Shane]

I know.

[Amanda]

You know what? She should just do really dry orange wine. It kind of tastes like cider. Okay. In a very small way. Yeah. But, you know, that's kind of similar with beer. IPAs were created because they were coming from India or something on ships, and they needed the beer to last, so they added more hops so that the beers would last longer. Oh, that's actually a true fact.

[Shane]

That's why it's called an India Pale.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Because I never understood that.

[Amanda]

Yes. So they added more hops to make it last the voyage. And I can't remember where they were headed to, but that's why it's called India Pale Ale.

[Shane]

I feel like IPAs are on the out. Am I wrong? I feel like they're kind of on the out.

[Amanda]

IPAs. Sours are my favorite.

[Shane]

I feel like they're kind of on the out. Because you worked at a micro bruiser on the out. You worked at a bar that served 72 taps. Wow.

[Amanda]

I had to take the Cicerone beer test.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Amanda]

I was really into beer. I learned so much about beer. Like, the color, the taste.

[Shane]

So cool.

[Amanda]

Where it comes from. Like, I was really into, like, sours and. And monk beers and, like, wheat beers because they would just leave the top off and then have. They would have. It would be called, like, a barnyard strain. A barnyard strain. And these, like, sour beers because they'd leave the top off and then let, like, the yeast naturally. That's where you're getting that funky interesting. I like it because it's connected to wine in that way where you're just, like, the location, the weather, where you're planted, all of that matters.

[Shane]

I love food, and drinks have so much culture to them. It's so. It's so fun.

[Amanda]

I used to drink a lot of beer.

[Shane]

Anyways, Johnny Appleseed, fuck you. Moving on. Water bottle wars. Everyone seems to have really strong feelings about why their brand of water bottle is the best. That's you insulated. Well, I see. I'm trying to. I finally am done. I'm bringing my own water bottle to work, and I'm trying to do that at home.

[Amanda]

Good. Save the planet.

[Shane]

Actually. Don't care.

[Amanda]

Totally.

[Shane]

I don't care. Wow.

[Amanda]

I'm kidding. I have a water bottle that I use every day.

[Shane]

I'll drink whatever water. I don't give a crap.

[Amanda]

What?

[Shane]

I don't give a crap. No, I don't really care.

[Amanda]

I think because I have a son and I was breastfeeding, I had to, like, I was really fricking on it. But also, I don't know. Drinking good water matters for sure, but.

[Shane]

I think a lot of it's good for you. It's just like, people have these ideas that it tastes different, especially, like, really fancy bottle brands. I'm like, you're Voss water. I'm like, it's like, fine.

[Amanda]

It's fine. Like, just get some filtered water, some spring water.

[Shane]

Have you ever, though, been like, to like, a cabin or something where it's like, the water's safe, but it's like, oh, yeah, it's kind of sulfuric. And you drink it and you're like, whoa. Yeah, we're picking up some stuff from the soil in this.

[Amanda]

Yeah. I will say, my friend's place on the east coast was like, oh, yeah, the water is really fresh. Or it comes from, like, this stream or whatever. And it is, like, yummy. Really delicious.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Amanda]

And maybe it's the placebo effect. Maybe it's your mind.

[Shane]

Maybe it's the amoebas that are in it. Moving on. Moving on. Someone said the curse of the Billy goat. This is the infamous curse that kept the Cubs from winning a world series for 108 years. Yes, I've heard of. There's a few. Because there's also the curse of the bambino, of course. Sports are so superstitious. Yeah.

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[Shane]

You want to know a funny one?

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Shane]

So I don't know much about baseball, curses and stuff, but I would just say maybe it's just bad ownership.

[Amanda]

You think?

[Shane]

Look, there's a lot of. When it comes to football, there's a lot of teams that's just like, this team just can't win. I'm like, yeah, because the owners suck. They're bad at investing in the right shit. That's why some teams just keep winning. Like, The Patriots, it's just like, they make some good calls. They hire good coaches, like, I don't know. And then they also got Tom Brady, and that's just lucky.

[Amanda]

Tom Brady's gone.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Bill Belichick is also gone.

[Shane]

You guys have Mike Vrabel and Drake May, who are really good. Whoa.

[Amanda]

I really believe it's like. It's like when you're watching something, you're like, oh, my God, this isn't good. It's like, well, what was the director like? What was the writer? Yeah.

[Shane]

And that's very much a football thing and sports thing. But there is a football curse that is very funny that I know about. And it's called the Simpsons. It's the Simpsons curse in relation to the Broncos and the Cowboys. So there's a episode of the Simpsons back in the 90s where Homer Simpson, all he wanted was to be the owner of the Dallas Cowboys. That was his dream in this episode. And at the end of the episode, Marge is like, oh, Homie, we got you a gift. And it's like, pretty good. And they're like, he's like your own football team. And he runs out in the front yard. He's like, oh, I got the Denver Broncos. And he goes out, he's like, oh, I got the Dallas Cowboys. And he walks outside and it's the Denver Broncos. And he's like, oh, the Denver Broncos. And they, like, sucked, like half the lawns on fire. They're like, hitting each other in the back of the head with the football. They, like, made a huge diss towards the Broncos. Like, they suck. Since that episode of the Simpsons came out in the 90s, the Cowboys have not beaten the Broncos. They have a complete losing streak against the Broncos. What? For how many? It's been like 30 something years now, or 20 or almost 30 years since. And now, to be fair, the Cowboys and the Broncos only play each other every few years, but kind of like they've lost every time.

[Amanda]

This superstition is real.

[Shane]

It's kind of fun.

[Amanda]

It's kind of like with baseball, it'll.

[Shane]

Get broken at some point. But probably, probably when Jerry Jones dies and the Cowboys can finally.

[Amanda]

Oh, Jerry Jones.

[Shane]

They are cursed.

[Amanda]

Until.

[Shane]

Until Jerry Jones is the reason they can't win.

[Amanda]

Oh, yeah, no, of course.

[Shane]

I wonder if there's any Cowboys fans in the comments if they would agree with that. I feel like they will comment Jerry Jones comment if you like Jerry Jones. Actually, really quick, there was one. Someone wrote Rubik's Cube solving cubing. This was by Audrey and they said it's one of my New Year's resolutions to learn how to solve a Rubik's cube. And I learned pretty fast how to solve the first two layers. But essentially cubing is just people solving Rubik's cubes super fast and remembering algorithms. I learned recently that Alexina used to compete in that. We can cut this out if she doesn't want this. What? But I believe Alex Cena.

[Amanda]

Jonathan has no idea about that.

[Shane]

Could we slack Alexina and ask if she competed in Rubik's cube solving competitions?

[Amanda]

That is incredible if that's true.

[Shane]

I'm pretty sure. And I think she's not the first person to work at Smosh who does that. I think we had someone.

[Amanda]

Heidi.

[Shane]

Heidi also used to compete. We've had multiple Rubik's cube solvers here at Smosh.

[Amanda]

She said, yes. I said, wtf? And she said, when I was in middle school. Why?

[Shane]

When I was in middle school. Yes. I remember Alexina told us about this, so.

[Amanda]

Oh my God.

[Shane]

Audrey needs to talk to Alexina about Rubik's Kids. The master.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

All right, next. Someone wrote Walmart. So this is written by Gareth, who lives in South Africa. Yeah. Yep. He said, I have. I've had this weird obsession with Walmart. It sounds like a place you could buy baby items and motor oil in the same aisle. Now, as an adult, I have been able to go a few to a few Walmarts across the US And I have to say my impressions of it matched that of the Walmarts on the east coast, but not of the west coast. Is just an L A thing where the Walmart feels normal. Why is there such a difference? Asking as a foreigner. That being said, Walmart has opened two stores here in South Africa, but they're not as good as the ones in the US in my opinion. Whoa. I haven't been a big Walmart person.

[Amanda]

Same.

[Shane]

But I've been to Walmart plenty of times. But I don't know.

[Amanda]

I don't know the main difference between the east coast and the west coast because I mean, I would say if I've been to Walmart, it's more on the east coast.

[Shane]

Yeah. I would say the Walmarts that I've been to here in the. On the west coast because Arizona and stuff, they were always similar ish to other stores like it. But it is kind of its own thing. You know, a store where you can go and get everything.

[Amanda]

Everything.

[Shane]

My family was. See, I grew up like my. We're in a military family, so we Would go to the base for everything. We'd go to the BX or the commissary and you get shit for. So the base has their own base has everything. It's its own city, effectively.

[Amanda]

So if you are not military, you can't go to the base.

[Shane]

Can't go in there. But because my dad, my whole family had military IDs because my dad was a lieutenant colonel. So we could go in and it's crazy. You drive to the base, drive through the, the, the gates and then you go and like you go get your groceries there. You go get everything there and it was.

[Amanda]

Where is all that coming from?

[Shane]

Everywhere.

[Amanda]

Everywhere?

[Shane]

Yeah. No, they're, they're stock.

[Amanda]

Is it in one, like warehouse or is it multiple stores in one area?

[Shane]

They have multiple. I would go get my haircut there. I would go. There was restaurants. There's everything. Like they've. Because the base. Because military bases have tons of people in them.

[Amanda]

What was it like growing up leaving the base and having to shop and choose places all over that you had to go to?

[Shane]

Yeah. When my dad was out of the military or we just. My dad has access to go to him forever. Same with my mom. But at a certain point we would sometimes not go. But it was kind of weird. Like I grew up not going to like regular grocery stores as often. And we'd go to the commissary. So that was just my norm.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Shane]

But that's why we didn't do Walmart as much. Because we would go to the BX and that had everything.

[Amanda]

Yeah. And we, we didn't really have a Walmart near us. Like it wasn't like down the street or something. Yeah, we had like Shaws and stop and shop and.

[Shane]

But Walmart's. Walmart's crazy. I mean it's got everything.

[Amanda]

It's stacked.

[Shane]

It really does. I'm sure as someone from another country, Walmart's got to be this crazy American.

[Amanda]

Yeah. I'd love to know what Walmart has in South Africa. Like what's the biggest difference?

[Shane]

What's the setup?

[Amanda]

I'm sure there's a lot of differences.

[Shane]

I'm very curious. Chance wrote one. What do you think Chance wrote? What do you think? The top.

[Amanda]

Something about a butthole. I don't know. I'm just kidding.

[Shane]

No, Chance wrote something about Broadway. No, he wrote bladed weapons.

[Amanda]

Oh, of course. Other things.

[Shane]

Specifically, what weapon are you specializing in for one on one duels?

[Amanda]

Okay. I want a bunch of knives.

[Shane]

I was gonna say I want like.

[Amanda]

Knives in each pocket.

[Shane]

I was gonna say, since I'm completely untrained, I would go knives.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

A sword, you need expertise.

[Amanda]

You. And they're heavy as hell.

[Shane]

They're heavy.

[Amanda]

You need to work on your arm strength.

[Shane]

If I. If I had time to train and become a master at any of them, I would choose that one. A sword that's also like a whip.

[Amanda]

Like in Kill Bill.

[Shane]

What's it from? It's like. I think it's an. A weapon in India or something. It's like sword that's also kind of like this big, like, curly metal. It's crazy. But you're. You're likely to kill yourself.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

By trying to wield it.

[Amanda]

See, I don't want that.

[Shane]

But it's awesome.

[Amanda]

I don't want that.

[Shane]

I think it's called. It's sick. I should show you some videos.

[Amanda]

Yeah, sure. Definitely.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

I'll find you later tonight.

[Shane]

All right. One last one that we have. And I'm curious. I'm curious what your thoughts on this Amanda Barnes, who runs our whole production. Amanda Barnes wants us to talk about I Love Lucy and how it revolutionized tv. First time it was filmed on film instead of live, which developed the process of syndication.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

First mainstream representation of interracial couple. Desi invented the multi camera system. Lucy and Desi ran the studio. Desilu Studios. Women in the writers room. When they got their awards for the show, they campaigned for writers awards. It's still funny. Longest live audience laughter ever recorded is on this show.

[Amanda]

Groundbreaking show.

[Shane]

I've watched a couple episodes and I remember watching it and being like, this is so good. Like, it's so well executed, so well done. A fun fact about I Love Lucy is that when Damian and I were on so Random on Disney Channel, it was shot at Hollywood center studios. And at lunch, we would go to a different set to eat lunch, and all the catering was there. And I found out, like, halfway through filming on that show that I was like, oh, this is the I Love Lucy set. That's where we go. And it's a very small studio.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

It's kind of shocking that they fit it all into this small studio with a studio audience.

[Amanda]

What's wild to me is they're married in real life. Yeah, they're married in real life. And they're also running a business together. And they're also like, starting the first sitcom.

[Shane]

Yeah. I can't believe too, because she was so.

[Amanda]

It's still so funny.

[Shane]

She was. I think she was 40 in that show. Like. Yeah. And she was just so incredible. I need to watch more of it. But I've seen. I've seen the, like, really famous one with the, like, vitamins and stuff with the Factory. It's, like, such good.

[Amanda]

It's their perfect. It literally perfect mini sketches. Also perfect. Like physical comedy. Yeah, Incredible physical comedy.

[Shane]

I think, like, physical comedy is so eternal and universal always. Right. Like, I love shows that. That don't.

[Amanda]

I mean, the Three Stooges don't even.

[Shane]

Speak if you can not speak and make people laugh. It's why I pitched our TNTL mimes back in the day.

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Shane]

So I was like, I want us to try to see if we can do this.

[Amanda]

We should do that again.

[Shane]

Oh, we should. It's so much fun.

[Amanda]

I mean, to me, it's. You have such a talent. If you can get across, like, the human interaction by not speaking. Because to be honest, the truth is like. Like, writing jokes are great. They're great. But, like, watching people in earnest interact with each other in a scenario is genuinely funny.

[Shane]

It's so great.

[Amanda]

It's really funny.

[Shane]

Selena has a pitch.

[Amanda]

Selena has a pitch and she wants.

[Shane]

Us to talk about High School Musical and how it was 20 years ago.

[Amanda]

Can I be honest? It was. I didn't really watch a lot of High School Musical. I really. I really. Every time our cast wants to sing the songs, I'm just like. Like.

[Shane]

Selena was wearing a Wildcats jersey this week for the 20th anniversary.

[Amanda]

Selena's big fan.

[Shane]

It was so massive. I mean, I was a teenager when it came out, and I remember. I remember so many of those shows because that was when I was first acting. So, like, all these shows were things where I was like, oh, man. Like, what do I need to be doing to become successful? And I was like, damn, everyone can sing and dance. I'm screwed.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

It was such a big, big show. Courtney's shown me a lot of. Of High School Musical.

[Amanda]

Courtney likes to show you nostalgic things that she loved from the past and shows you.

[Shane]

And. And Courtney was into High School Musical.

[Amanda]

I think I was, like, a year. I don't even want to say I was a year too old. I think it was just like, I didn't really watch it.

[Shane]

Yeah, that's fair. I was watching anime.

[Amanda]

Zac Efron. You're so cool.

[Shane]

I was watching Lost and anime.

[Amanda]

You're so cool.

[Shane]

Sorry, I'm a little busy, guys.

[Amanda]

I was watching, like, Six Feet under on HBO with my family.

[Shane]

Jesus Christ.

[Amanda]

I think that should explain a lot about me.

[Shane]

Did you finish that show?

[Amanda]

Yes, I. The Last song is Sia.

[Shane]

Apparently. Apparently, people say that's the greatest finale of any show.

[Amanda]

Have you seen it?

[Shane]

No, I've never seen an episode. It's a. But it's the best finale of all time.

[Amanda]

It is what I will say. H. Rewatched it all and re watching the finale. You're just like it. I can't even say anything more. All I know is Sia is the last. The whole, like, last episode is one of her songs. And it is so good. It is. It's so dark. It's such a dark show.

[Shane]

Damn.

[Amanda]

Speaking of nostalgia, there's a Trend going on.

[Shane]

2016.

[Amanda]

2016. You posting yourself from 2016. Where were you guys 10 years ago?

[Shane]

2016. You know, we just did our Smosh Hospital live show. I remember in 2016, we did smosh Live, and it was this big live show, and it was such a different beast back then, and that's so wild. We didn't do a live show for a long time after that. But that was a. That was. I was here for less than a year at Smosh, and then we did that show, and it was in front of a huge audience.

[Amanda]

Whoa.

[Shane]

It was live streamed, like, on YouTube. It was crazy. Whoa. So I remember that from 2016.

[Amanda]

2016 was actually a. I was looking back. Cause I heard this trend. I was looking back, and I was like, oh, 2016 was a huge year for me. I met my husband that year.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Amanda]

Doing karaoke. I went to the Azores for the first time ever with my entire family. And then I was in Groundlings. Like, not my first class, but my third class. So I was committed. And I was posting videos all the time. Comedy videos all the time on my YouTube. That was 2016. It was like a wild, wild time.

[Shane]

2016 was a weird year. And then Harambe died.

[Amanda]

Alexina's just doing her freaking.

[Shane]

Alexina is solving a Rubik's Cube?

[Amanda]

Yeah. No. Okay. She doesn't.

[Shane]

She doesn't want anyone to do it.

[Amanda]

Alexina. Alexina. I can't do it. Mix it up.

[Shane]

Mix it up.

[Amanda]

Okay, I'm gonna mix it up. So I am mixing up the Rubik's cube for our champion, Alexina. I'm scared. Don't be scared.

[Shane]

No pressure. You don't have to solve it quickly.

[Amanda]

No, I do.

[Shane]

You used to. What was your best time?

[Amanda]

58 seconds.

[Shane]

58 seconds.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Shane]

All right. Alexina is currently solving the Rubik's Cube.

[Amanda]

But can we, like, talk while I do.

[Shane]

We can talk. Do you have a topic you want to talk about? I want to talk about dance moms. You want to talk about. You do want to talk. You wrote dance moms down here.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I have still never seen dance moms.

[Amanda]

Oh, I've seen some dance moms, but.

[Shane]

I am fascinated by the character of.

[Amanda]

Abby Lee Miller, Tommy's mom.

[Shane]

I know Tommy's. Tommy's hero slash villain.

[Amanda]

What's crazy is, like, that's. It's like, are they a villain? Are they a hero? We don't know because they were put in that role. But how.

[Shane]

When I see people like Abby Lee Miller, it's where I realized, like, oh, this industry I'm in has such horrible people. Cause I'm like, oh, she's just a normal person in so many ways. For, like, us being, like, being a teen actor, I met like 50 Abby Lee Millers a month. Of course, that just was the vibe. Adults were just like that.

[Amanda]

And speaking of Sia, the girl that was always in her music videos was also on Dance Moms.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Amanda]

Was also a spin off show.

[Shane]

I don't even. That's a horrific.

[Amanda]

That's a whole other thing.

[Shane]

What about you, Amanda? We got a few minutes? Got a few seconds.

[Amanda]

Do we have a few minutes?

[Shane]

Well, you can talk about. We can. I've got a show that I want you to. It's solved.

[Amanda]

It's solved.

[Shane]

It is solved.

[Amanda]

I couldn't think of something because I knew she was so close. Wow. Thank you so much.

[Shane]

Alexina, there's a show that I think you would love that I'm obsessed with.

[Amanda]

Tell me.

[Shane]

But it's a very niche show that not many people are talking about. Share company. No, Chair Company is amazing.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Shane]

There's a show and we. Because we were talking about, like, no dialogue and how amazing that is. There is a show that I'm obsessed with that has zero dialogue and it's on its third season. Not a line is spoken throughout the whole show. It's an animated show.

[Amanda]

It's called Primal. Yeah, I love Primal.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Amanda]

Okay. I've already seen. So I've only seen season one. I have not seen the other seasons. I love that show.

[Shane]

That show is amazing.

[Amanda]

It's so good because there's. You don't need words in it.

[Shane]

It's just art.

[Amanda]

You're watching it and it's just. For some reason, it feels like nostalgic anime to me. I don't know why.

[Shane]

Well, it's the guy who did Dexter's Laboratory and Samurai Jack. I don't know if you watch those.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Shane]

Samurai Jack was my shit, but I've heard of it. I'm sure a lot of the chosen comes from me watching Samurai Jack.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Anyways.

[Amanda]

Yeah. All right.

[Shane]

Got my interest in there.

[Amanda]

All right, guys, stay tuned because we're actually gonna try to, like, talk to cast and we do have Courtney coming up soon who's going to do a special intro whole episode on their interests.

[Shane]

That's right. Thank you all for watching. Let us know down below if you have a very specific show or interest or topic that you love.

[Amanda]

Or Conspiracy theory.

[Shane]

Yeah. Or. Or that. Or the Montauk Project. Or Johnny Appleseed. Thank you for watching. We'll see you later. Bye.

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[Shane]

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