#24 - What Vibes Do We Give Off? w/ Tommy Bowe

Summary

Podcast Summary: Smosh Mouth Episode #24 - "What Vibes Do We Give Off? w/ Tommy Bowe"

Introduction

In Episode #24 of Smosh Mouth, released on December 11, 2023, hosts Shayne Topp (referred to as "Short") and Amanda Lehan-Canto (referred to as "Tall"), along with their guest Tommy Bowe, delve into the intriguing topic of personal vibes and confidence. The episode explores the nuances of "serving" different vibes, particularly focusing on the term "serving cunt," its origins, and its cultural significance.

Understanding "Serving Cunt"

The conversation kicks off with Shayne mentioning the buzz around the term "serving cunt," a phrase gaining traction on Twitter and within certain internet communities. Amanda adds, “People on the streets of Los Angeles, California, are really using this new term.”

Tommy clarifies the term’s usage on his own YouTube channel, Serving Cunt, where he judges various subjects based on whether they are "serving" or not. He explains, “It's like the Runway portion of RuPaul's Drag Race. And that's it with objects and things and creatures and no people.”

Shayne attempts to define "serving cunt" with Amanda offering her interpretation: “It is a, like, borderline... you're exuding a confidence that is perhaps almost offensive to some, but you don't care.”

Tommy Bowe’s "Serving Cunt" Show

Tommy provides an in-depth look into his show, “Serving Cunt,” detailing its structure and creative process. He describes the format: “You come in, there's the intro, we dive right in, and we decide out of five pictures, which one is serving the most.” Each episode involves selecting finalists, playing light-hearted games, and ultimately choosing a winner based on their "serving" prowess.

A notable moment occurs when Tommy discusses his episode with Rachel, mentioning, “Angela on the episode with fish” indicating the variety of themes he explores. He emphasizes the show's flexible nature, allowing each guest to bring their unique perspective on what constitutes "serving."

Defining Different "Serving" Terms

Shayne and Amanda brainstorm various "serving" terms beyond "cunt," illustrating the versatility of the concept. Shayne remarks, “Is this an arrogance? Is there arrogance involved in this?” leading to a discussion where Tommy explains, “It's more about how you're showing up to work... it's how you exude your own self. It's a power. It's an energy.”

Amanda shares a personal anecdote from Vidcon, where she was told she was "serving clunt" (clown cunt) for her bold jumper, highlighting how serving is about embracing one's true self without concern for others' opinions. She reflects, “It's like when you tap into this part of yourself that's like, yes. And you don't give a... you don't give a shite who.”

Serving Among Smosh Staff

The hosts and Tommy take a lighthearted approach in identifying who within the Smosh team "serves" the most. They discuss various personalities and styles, attributing different "serving" personas such as:

• Courtney: Recognized for her consistent and polished appearance, Tommy declares, “Courtney, hands down, really well.”
• Shayne: Described as serving the "Toyota Corolla" vibe, symbolizing dependability and relatability.
• Amanda: Identified with "top energy," embodying confidence and assertiveness.

Shayne muses, “I will say that you're serving Boston light right now... there's nothing that's gonna stop them,” referring to Amanda’s confident demeanour.

Personal Reflections on Confidence and Vibes

The conversation transitions to personal experiences with confidence and serving vibes. Amanda recounts her wedding day as a peak moment of serving confidence: “I felt like I was serving that day.”

Shayne shares his struggle with consistently feeling confident, questioning whether he ever truly serves: “I don't think I ever have,” though his friends disagree, noting his confident moments in promos.

Tommy reflects on moments when serving confidence peaks, such as during the production of his show: “I put in a month's work... I was serving exhausted,” illustrating the ebb and flow of maintaining one's vibe.

Passion Projects and Self-Motivation

The discussion shifts to Tommy’s passion project—his YouTube show—and the challenges of self-motivation. He emphasizes the importance of creating something enjoyable: “It's crucial to have fun during the whole process as much as you can.”

Shayne shares his own challenges with starting personal projects, highlighting the difference between obligations and passion-driven creativity: “If it was something that was purely for fun, then it's a little different.”

Amanda adds, “A passion project has to be something that's fun... it's like a fire that's inside of you,” underscoring the necessity of passion in creative endeavors.

Tommy elaborates on his process, mentioning, “I feel like Servicing fear. That's actually what I serve the most,” pointing to fear of time slipping away as a motivator for his work.

Gossip Segment: "Lip Service"

In their final segment, "Lip Service," the hosts share light-hearted gossip and personal stories:

• Tommy's Tea: Tommy humorously reveals, “My dad is working toward retirement,” poking fun at his father's future.
• Amanda's Tea: Amanda shares a funny anecdote about breaking her intermittent fasting routine: “I was like, it's soda water.”
• Shayne's Tea: Shane confesses a childhood mishap where he broke a friend's bike, adding, “I'm serving asshole right now.”

The segment concludes with a call to action for listeners to watch Tommy's show and share their own "vibes."

Conclusion

Episode #24 of Smosh Mouth offers a deep dive into the concept of personal vibes and confidence, using the playful framework of "serving" different personas. Through engaging conversations, personal anecdotes, and the introduction of Tommy Bowe’s creative project, the hosts provide listeners with insights into embracing and understanding the energy they project. The episode wraps up with a fun gossip segment, leaving listeners entertained and inspired to explore their own vibes.

Notable Quotes:

• Shayne (00:30): “Today's all about our own vibes and our own confidence and how to exude the best of ourselves.”
• Amanda (06:50): “If you are wearing an outfit that you like, you feel good the whole day.”
• Tommy (07:13): “It's the unabashedness. It's that, like, damn, you just commit to yourself.”
• Tommy (51:36): “Fear. Oh, fear. Amanda. Oh, Amanda. The answer would be fear.”
• Amanda (59:22): “Time is precious.”
• Tommy (64:40): “I was just like, okay. And I never heard anything about it since, but I did that.”

Timestamped Highlights:

• Introduction (00:04-00:16): Hosts introduce the episode's theme of vibes and confidence.
• Defining "Serving Cunt" (04:23-07:13): Hosts and guest discuss the term's meaning and cultural relevance.
• Tommy’s Show Overview (11:28-12:20): Detailed explanation of Tommy's "Serving Cunt" show format.
• Personal Serving Examples (16:34-20:37): Amanda shares her experience of serving clown cunt at Vidcon.
• Serving Within Smosh (36:00-42:32): Identifying and attributing serving personas to Smosh staff.
• Passion Project Discussion (49:12-62:17): Tommy talks about the creation and challenges of his YouTube show.
• Gossip Segment (62:44-67:11): Hosts share humorous personal stories and teas.

Final Thoughts

This episode of Smosh Mouth not only entertains but also encourages listeners to reflect on their own confidence and the vibes they project. By blending humor with meaningful discussions, Shayne, Amanda, and Tommy offer a relatable and insightful exploration of modern internet culture and personal growth.

Transcript

[Shane]

God, I need a haircut. Hi, I'm Shane. Wait, Sorry.

[Amanda]

I'm Shane.

[Shane]

Hi. Welcome to Smosh Mouth. I'm Shane.

[Amanda]

And I'm Amanda. And you know what? Shane and I have been really trying to figure out how we can best serve ourselves and how we can best be confident in this world and really like, how we can really have a good vibe.

[Shane]

Yeah. Today's all about our own vibes and our own confidence and how to exude the best of ourselves. A term some people use. This is a morning show, people. Amanda, have you heard people are using a term called serving cunt?

[Amanda]

Yeah. People on the streets of Los Angeles, California, are really using this new term. We decided to pop it over to our man on the street to tell us how to best serve cunt.

[Tommy]

I'm a man on the street because I have no home.

[Shane]

Yeah. Here with us is Tommy.

[Amanda]

Tommy. So you basically created this term.

[Tommy]

No. No. What?

[Amanda]

Tommy, you basically invented the words.

[Shane]

This is Amanda. Or if this is the.

[Amanda]

So you invented the word serving and cunt, which, by the way, so our editor doesn't murder us, we're going to say bunt or hunt or whatever we want, except for the word cunt, so we don't have to get it bleeped out all the time.

[Shane]

Well. And we probably will inevitably say the word. So. Tommy, on. We'll. We'll preface this a little bit later, but, Tommy, could you give us a sound for when we accidentally do say the word?

[Tommy]

Oh, my God. I. Yeah. This is great to be on this side of this question. Wow. I have never thought about it. It's good to do a vowel that I know. And it has to be short and quick.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Tommy]

So I'm going to go.

[Shane]

Oh, I love it.

[Tommy]

I'm going to give some options just in case, as I do in my show. Which is why if it ever cuts to and they're sitting differently, it's because we took, like, three minutes where I'm like, faster. And then like, how about this? Oh. Oh. All right. There we go.

[Shane]

I like that.

[Amanda]

So should we say serving? That was.

[Shane]

For those of you listening who might be confused, we are referring to the term serving cunt, which I feel like everyone's got to have heard it by now. It's.

[Tommy]

It's big on Twitter.

[Shane]

I feel like it's big on Twitter. And, Tommy, you have a show on your own YouTube channel called Serving Cunt, and you judge different things on whether they are or are not serving.

[Tommy]

Absolutely.

[Amanda]

Yeah. And you bring guests on there, and.

[Shane]

You brought Angela on You brought Angela on?

[Amanda]

Rachel.

[Tommy]

Rachel, yeah. Courtney's episode's out soon.

[Amanda]

When did it start? Give us the lowdown.

[Tommy]

You want, like, the full story, front to back. What are you looking for?

[Amanda]

Yeah, dude. Yeah, dude.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah. You motherfucking cunt.

[Tommy]

Tommy on the street, tell us what's going on.

[Amanda]

We're anchors, so we're gonna say. So, Tommy, please tell us a little bit about how your show started and what's it all about. What's it serving?

[Tommy]

Well, I wanted you to cue me up in the anchor as the news person.

[Amanda]

And here today, we're here with Tommy on the Street. We wanna know exactly what your show is all about. Give us a little bit of the details. And what was the origin date of your show?

[Tommy]

Origin date. Okay. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Okay, so about the show, first. I'll hop into that. It's basically like if. Go and watch it, please. Please. It's like the Runway portion of RuPaul's Drag Race. And that's it with objects and things and creatures and no people. That's a hard rule I have where it's like, no people. At one point, I was gonna do Sims characters, and I'm like, but those are people.

[Amanda]

Those are people.

[Tommy]

So it's like. It's a exercise in imagination and being critical for no reason. It's like the stupidest show I could possibly come up with. Yeah.

[Shane]

And it's a definition. It's a term that I still. I think I know it.

[Tommy]

Right?

[Shane]

But I. I sent you a video the other day of a koi fish, right, that people were saying, serves. And I was like. I was like, yeah, this fish does. And you were like, no, no, it's not.

[Tommy]

No, she served royalty. Class and elegance.

[Shane]

It was this. It was this koi fish that had. It was this white koi fish with long, flowy fins, and it was. It was. Was gorgeous. And I was like, oh, is this. And I was like, oh, it's not. So I'm still figuring it out. My take. Because I've tr. I've asked. Courtney has tried to describe it to me.

[Amanda]

Yeah, Shane, give us your hot take on what serving is.

[Shane]

Here's the definition of serving bunt cake. It is a, like, borderline. Like. You're exuding a confidence that is perhaps almost offensive to some, but you don't care. Like, it's. It is. You, like. I don't know. It's.

[Tommy]

It's an. It's. Yeah, you're. You're very close.

[Amanda]

And my hot take.

[Tommy]

Yeah. Please.

[Amanda]

So at Vidcon, Tommy said that I was. I had this really wild jumper that was, like, all the way buttoned up, and it was blue, and it had, like, these big ruffles on the shoulders, too. And then, like, squiggly lines and patterns. Patterns.

[Tommy]

But it was like. It was like snatch at the same.

[Amanda]

Time and then snacks at the waist. And he said I was serving clunt. Serving clunt, which is clown cunt. Clown cunt. And I loved that because it was really the first time anyone had ever said that to me with, you know, the clown part in it. And I felt so seen in that moment. Cause I'm like, maybe that is just me. Maybe not even just in that moment. Maybe that's just me at my best. And so my hot take of serving is. It's kind of like when you tap into this part of yourself that's like. Yes. And you don't give a. You don't give a shite who. Who cares what people are saying about you as long as you are feeling yourself and being like, this is 100% me, and I know I look good. To me. That is serving that.

[Shane]

I agree with that. That's what it seems to be. It seems to be, like, 100% confidence.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And it's exaggerated, and it's borderline over the top.

[Tommy]

Well, it can be. Yeah. Yeah.

[Amanda]

So what is your definition of serving Bundt cake?

[Tommy]

So a fun part of this journey, of this little show is everyone's got their own take on it. It's kind of like the word. Like, awesome. It's like, anything can be awesome or kind of awesome, but if you're in.

[Amanda]

Boston, awesome is the word. Wicked awesome.

[Shane]

Or if you're in the UK or Australia, they're just saying it all the time.

[Tommy]

You're both hitting on, like, the piece of it that's important. And it's that, like, unabashedness. It's that, like. It's like, damn, you just commit to yourself. And it's also like you have your own sense of bundt cake. It's like you have your own version of serving cunt, and you have your own version of serving cunt. Everyone has. Cause it's like it's you. You serve cunt. You know what I mean? It's not like. It's not fashion. It's not a fashion thing.

[Amanda]

Cause like, every term that's universal. That works for everyone.

[Tommy]

Exactly.

[Amanda]

Got it.

[Tommy]

It's how you exude your own self. It's a power. It's an energy.

[Shane]

It also seems to be very much a choice.

[Tommy]

Yes.

[Shane]

Someone has to make. It's not. Nobody. Like, it's not based on your actual looks. It's not. There's no. It's no. This person is actively making this decision right in this moment and with how they started their day.

[Tommy]

It's how you're showing up to work.

[Amanda]

If there is serving bundt cake, it sounds like there's a lot of other servings.

[Tommy]

Oh, yeah. Like the koi fish served, like elegance royalty. Like. Like. Like glamour matron. Like, wow.

[Shane]

Everybody's always serving something. Right?

[Tommy]

Right.

[Shane]

Like, it's.

[Tommy]

It's like I. I'm serving uncle right now.

[Amanda]

Really? I was going to say daddy.

[Tommy]

Okay. Uncle could have a kid.

[Amanda]

I was going to say office daddy.

[Shane]

I will say. I would say Amanda is serving Boston light right now.

[Amanda]

Be like, Boston Light.

[Shane]

Like, it's not over the top. It's not over the top, but you're. It's. There's some. There's some Boston ish vibes going on here. The hoop earrings, the. The. The denim.

[Amanda]

That's true.

[Shane]

Lined and boots. And boots. Like, you look like you're east Coast.

[Amanda]

K. I will take that. I don't really. It's a bad thing.

[Shane]

Boston light.

[Amanda]

No, I think that's great. Boston light also kind of 80s.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

The big bangs.

[Shane]

Well, I kind of feel. This kind of also feels like when forever ago, Noah told me that I'm the human version of an acoustic guitar, and I was like, all right, wait.

[Amanda]

That'S the cutest thing I've ever heard.

[Shane]

That's actually, like, I get it.

[Amanda]

Pretty legit.

[Tommy]

Call me an umbrella that wishes he was a real boy. Yeah, it's pretty good. Pretty good. Noah's got it okay. To me. You're serving outdoor seating at a decently nice cocktail bar.

[Shane]

Oh, okay.

[Tommy]

Daytime. Daytime.

[Amanda]

And what is Shane serving right now? He's wearing a T shirt, a chain, and a jean jacket. Actually, Shane and I look pretty similar right now.

[Shane]

I'm wearing a Broncos T shirt, jeans, denim jacket.

[Amanda]

I'm wearing a pumpkin spice colored shirt.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

You're serving Sedan.

[Shane]

Sedan?

[Tommy]

I think so, yes.

[Amanda]

What year? Sedan.

[Tommy]

Oh, it's a good, like 2008.

[Amanda]

Oh, fuck it. A little beat up. Cool. No, no, no, it's well kept.

[Tommy]

It's well kept. It's a classic. You know what I mean?

[Amanda]

We all know what we're serving. So when people come on your show, do you guys figure out if something's serving together?

[Tommy]

Yeah, it's kind of different per episode, which is why it's a blast is because each person that comes on has their own idea of what serving is. They read the brief that I gave them. But we filmed all of the episodes in one day, which is why I'm wearing the same outfit the whole time. I had a bunch of different outfits planned, and I was like, I can't do this. No, I'm gonna be in the same outfit. I can't be changing.

[Shane]

Yes.

[Tommy]

But I did change my bandana in every episode.

[Amanda]

Very good. Very good.

[Shane]

Smart thing to do.

[Tommy]

Yeah. That was the tail end of my bandana.

[Shane]

When you film future episodes, are you gonna wear the same outfit now?

[Tommy]

No, it'll be a different outfit if I do another season or the plan right now is to do a season one, part two, and then do, like an All Stars and then an All Winners, and then have that be, like, the package. And then if I want to do another. If I want to do that, I'll wear the same thing, probably. But if I want to do another season, it'll be a different outfit.

[Amanda]

Got it. So you bring them on and you kind of. And they get their own idea of serving.

[Tommy]

Right. And so, I mean, what you see in the show is what happens for the most part. Although the way we film it is we do all of the serving stuff first and then we do the games last. So how the show works is you come in, there's the intro, we dive right in, and we decide out of five pictures, which one is serving the most. And then we take that one and they go to the finals. Then we play a game, Little stupid game.

[Amanda]

Love it.

[Tommy]

And then we do it again for round two. So that's the second finalist. Another game. Then there's the third finalist. Then we go into the finals and we eliminate one of them, which is dramatic. Very dramatic.

[Shane]

I know.

[Tommy]

And they're eliminated with a whip sound, and they get ripped in half.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Tommy]

It's very fun. And then we choose a winner, and then that's the end of the episode. It's very fun. 20 minutes.

[Shane]

It's great. I have to admit, I think I've watched every episode or. Yeah, I've watched most the episodes, and I remember watching the one with Angela, and I think it was fish. Was it? Did you guys do fish or was it.

[Tommy]

I did fish with Rachel.

[Amanda]

Rachel.

[Shane]

No. What was the. There's one. There was one Pasta. Was it Pasta. Was it? I think it was lamps. There was one, and it all had lamps. I remember there was one where I, I, I. It hit a point where I'M like, okay, I'm learning what this is. And then there's sometimes where I'm like, I absolutely disagree. Yeah, I disagree with your decision.

[Amanda]

Do you ever read like the comments and kind of debate on seeing different sides of it?

[Tommy]

Absolutely, I do. I love that. That's the point of this. Like, when I wanted to do this show, I was like, okay, I moved to LA to like, you know, do comedy. And it's like, great, I'm here, I'm, you know, doing comedy. I check marked my fan doing comedy, right? Ding dink. I. And so I kind of. I've been like, knocking at windows, walking into walls, just like, boom, boom. And finally I'm like, okay, I'm on a YouTube channel. People know me from YouTube now. Like, that's what the thing is. So I'll just do a YouTube show. And I'm like, okay, in this crazy ass world we're in right now, what is a good YouTube show? Something that's like escapist and like fun and light and like, not really. Not a lot of brain juice happening. And people love Drag Race. And I was like, okay, well, what could I do that's like in that same realm? And then I was like on Twitter one day and there was just. It was about Megan, the horror movie.

[Shane]

Yeah, I remember you talking to me about that months ago. I love it online, saying that she serves. Yeah, I was like, what?

[Amanda]

She absolutely serves. Bun cake. I mean, my God, I was like, she's so cool.

[Tommy]

Exactly.

[Shane]

Does not give a yes. Does not care.

[Tommy]

And so I was just like, that's a fun phrase. And that's a phrase that's been around in gay culture. And all gay phrases in gay culture start with black, trans, queer, LGBT people. And then it gets passed forward until we're talking about it on a show.

[Amanda]

Look at us.

[Tommy]

But that's how it always. That's how it goes. And so I was like, damn, that's a great idea. And so I just started, like, when I was like, with friends, I would just be like at a bar and they would have little like tincture bottles for like bitters. And I'd be like, I'd be like, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Everyone come here. Look at these bottles. Which one is serving? Cut. And then we'd like start doing that. And then I'm like, this is a blast.

[Amanda]

The one that looks like the genie lamp. The genie lamp. The bitters that look like a genie lamp is always serving.

[Shane]

I catch myself too, nowadays. Now, having watched your show, I catch myself kind of just, like, I sometimes find myself interpreting it, like, does that.

[Amanda]

I can't imagine Shane pulling up to a bar and going like, hello, sir. Your bitters bottle is serving. Cunt. Sorry, I'll have a Manhattan. Nothing.

[Shane]

It's not offensive for me to say that your Ford F150 is serving. Serving, man. I just want you to know that. No, I'm a big fan. Hey, thanks. I appreciate it. Has me also thinking constantly. We talked about our vibe right now.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

But you, at one point, then at Vidcon, did serve.

[Tommy]

Oh, absolutely.

[Shane]

A little bit.

[Amanda]

Yeah, I served. I served clown cunt. And I was clunty. And I remember when you gave that to me, I was like, oh, to me, it's so fun to get to have, like, a word for something that I'm feeling. Right. Because I was feeling a little bit like, ooh, I don't know if I should be doing this. Like, when I put on that jumper, I was like, I don't know. This feels a little, like, dangerous. Like a little faux pas. Like, I don't know.

[Shane]

It makes. If you don't have the confidence, you're scared.

[Amanda]

You're scared. It doesn't work, and it doesn't work. But if you do, if you're like, yep, yes.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I'm wearing this, and people are like, oh.

[Amanda]

And I felt so. I felt so good at Vidcon wearing that and also around your presence, because I feel like you and me are attached at the hip at Vidcon, always. You're my husband at Vidcon, My so.

[Shane]

Many wonderful gay husband drinking aperol spritzes. Yes.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Shane]

Do you think that's. Do you think there's ever been a time in your life where you served more Helen Hunt than. Than that?

[Amanda]

Helen Hunt? I was like, helen Hunt. Oh, my brain went to a weird place.

[Shane]

That was your peak confidence, like your most badass.

[Amanda]

I think my wedding day, I was pretty serving.

[Shane]

That's a good day to go.

[Amanda]

And what's crazy is I went for a dress, and I'll soon share the pictures online, but I went for a dress that is a little bit out of my comfort zone, but also is very much serving. Bless you.

[Tommy]

Just. It just doesn't have a bottom.

[Amanda]

You're completely new to the top. No bottom. It just has two nipple stars right here. And that's it.

[Tommy]

And just two veils.

[Amanda]

And I walked down the aisle with my dad, and I was like, bye, dad. Thanks for giving me la die, Dad. I promise you'll meet him soon. Hi, honey. Hi, honey. Hi, honey. Hi, baby. Hi, baby. What the hell? This is me as a bride. If I stayed in Boston.

[Tommy]

No.

[Amanda]

My dress was, like, really low cut, like, all the way down to here.

[Tommy]

Wow.

[Amanda]

And it was just all lace in the back. And it was. And it was, like, cinched and snatched. And it was so beautiful, but also so beautiful. Slightly a little bit traditional, too, but romantic and, like, fairy, like. And I felt like I was serving that day. And then some days I'll come into smosh and be like, I feel like I look pretty good. And then, like, people will be like, oh, I love your outfit. And I'm like, oh, thanks. Yeah, no worries. And inside I'm like, yes.

[Shane]

Fuck, yes.

[Amanda]

Cause it feels good. Like, if I'm wearing an outfit that I like, I feel good the whole day.

[Shane]

No. And I feel like I can tell now nowadays when I'm just like, oh, that person. They're at 100%.

[Amanda]

They're at a hundred.

[Shane]

They're going for it, and there's nothing that's gonna stop them. I think my hot take is. I don't think I ever have.

[Amanda]

That is so not true.

[Tommy]

That can't be true.

[Shane]

No, but by definition. No. I mean, I don't mean, like, I've never had days where I. I feel good or look good. I just mean, like, that specific vibe, you know? And I mean, I. Not even that I haven't tried at some points in my life. I just feel like I. I've seen.

[Amanda]

You at work before in these outfits, and I'm like, when you.

[Shane]

But is it serving or is it more? Is it a different vibe? Because, like. Like we talked about. Let's ask.

[Amanda]

Let's ask the. The professional.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Yeah. Tommy, what do you think?

[Amanda]

The inventor of serving fun cake.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

I'm less of a professional and more of, like, the Jane Goodall of serving. Cut.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Tommy]

Like, I've had a lot of experience, but, like, there's still more to learn.

[Amanda]

So serving a bunch of gorillas and you're staying Goodall.

[Tommy]

Yes, exactly.

[Amanda]

And you're on the poster being like, she hasn't aged a day. Swear to God. Okay, keep going.

[Tommy]

It's. Cause she started old.

[Amanda]

She started old, and she just had older.

[Tommy]

It's the Betty White thing. It's like, oh, you never aged. It's like, no, she just was old at 40. And that's what I'm going to do.

[Amanda]

Helen Mirren.

[Tommy]

Yeah. Oh, no, you definitely have. You also are, like. You're like a humble, confident person. You're not Walking around like, I'm the fucking shot guy.

[Amanda]

I feel like serving Helen Hunt is very like, almost like you're on a.

[Tommy]

Runway, but if you demand attention, you then lose.

[Amanda]

You then lose your.

[Shane]

Yeah. Because you're not desperate.

[Tommy]

Right. Desperation is out.

[Amanda]

You just. People see you and go, wow, it looks like she's on a Runway, but you don't know it.

[Shane]

Is it an arrogance? Is there arrogance involved in this?

[Tommy]

No. Because as soon as there's like that, like, negativity involved, you know, then it gets like. But if it's like arrogance without me putting it on you, people have to be in.

[Shane]

It's more people. You want people to be in awe of you.

[Tommy]

Yes. And you'd like.

[Shane]

So you're not. You're not seeking that.

[Tommy]

No, no.

[Amanda]

You're doing it for yourself. It feels very self fulfilled.

[Shane]

That's true.

[Amanda]

It feels very like you're. It's like a divine embodiment. It's like I'm embodying divinity.

[Tommy]

Yeah. And you suck the air out.

[Shane]

It feels like too, that it's a person who's serving. They can be sexy and attractive, but it doesn't feel like it's about that. It's more of an ethereal thing.

[Amanda]

It's a vibe. It's a vibe.

[Tommy]

It's a vibe. I wanna. Really quick. You said that you come into Smosh sometimes wearing an outfit and you're feeling great. And then people are like, oh, my God, I love your outfit. Yeah, I just got this really nice. And I think everyone's seen it. This really nice trench, this country with my shoulders serving. And I was very, very London look. And I came in and everyone and some of the editors were in the kitchen. They all went, whoa, what are you on the case? They're like, why are you doing that?

[Shane]

What?

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Tommy]

I was like, all right.

[Amanda]

I'm so glad we're talking about this, because this is the biggest issue with serving is there is a. There's a group of people who just are blind to it. They don't see it. In fact, they feel so uncomfortable in the serving that they make you feel like shit. Because I swear to God, if I was wearing that jacket, the same thing would happen to me. Like, what do you want to say?

[Tommy]

What are you doing?

[Amanda]

My sisters would do that. Except my sisters would do it in a very loving way. But my little sister would probably do that. She'd be like, are you on the case, Sherlock? Like, where is the fucking murderer?

[Shane]

I love when people dress, like, when they go for it, and I Also, like, when people dress really nice, even for no occasion, I'm like, that's badass.

[Amanda]

Unless it's a ball gown at work.

[Tommy]

Or like a tuxedo, you know, but.

[Shane]

At smosh, it's like, can you really dress that weird? Like, we're always dressed crazy for something. We got pajamas, we do whatever we want here. We got pajama people.

[Amanda]

I can't believe they said that. What was your. So what is your response when you know you're serving and you get a response that like shoots it down?

[Tommy]

Oh, I went, okay. I was like, sure. Yeah. In a way that I was just like, you know, I'm like, okay, I get that I showed up today.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

But like, don't.

[Amanda]

Or you could be like, I'm about to solve the case. And you guys, I did that.

[Tommy]

I was just like, okay, yeah, let me get my magnifying glass out.

[Amanda]

Let me solve the case.

[Tommy]

Go go gadget cunt.

[Shane]

I am about to solve the case of your piss poor attitude.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And then they shut up and they left.

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Shane]

Went home.

[Tommy]

They left work and now we're behind on our shoot schedule and now we.

[Shane]

Can'T edit anything and it sucks.

[Amanda]

So I have a question. Can you call your. Can you tell your. Can you say out loud that you're.

[Shane]

Serving or is that defeat?

[Amanda]

Would that defeat the purpose or would that defeat the purpose?

[Tommy]

I feel like this is up for debate, but I think if you are telling yourself that you are serving cunt, you then destiny yourself to serve more cunt. Whoa, I'm serving cunt. Then it's like, you're right. I am. I'm right.

[Amanda]

I am so yourself manifest it. But telling others like, good morning guys. Can you guys see that I'm serving?

[Tommy]

Then you're not correct. No way. Get out of here.

[Amanda]

Get out of here.

[Tommy]

That's the arrogance. I'm like, how dare you?

[Shane]

How dare you, Tommy, do you have a time in your life where you think you served the most or times recently where you're like, yep, I was on it. I was there.

[Tommy]

I.

[Amanda]

That jacket was definitely one.

[Shane]

I see.

[Tommy]

Yeah. I mean, that trench slayed. Absolutely. But I don't know if I have like a specific memory in mind where I like, truly did. I will say, that shoot day when we shot the show, it was one of those things where it's like, you know, you put in a month's work of pre production and planning and finding the pictures and making up the games and hiring people and scheduling it and you know, people dropped out and Hiring, you know, finding new talent to be on the thing. And so it's like all of that work, and then it's like, I'm gonna put on my little black vest and my little bandana, and my hair looked perfect. And then it was like, all right, pa, let's get the. And I was just like, oh, I'm running a production.

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Tommy]

And I look like this. So probably on that day, I was serving cunt. Except for, I think, like, maybe after lunch. I was like, all right, we got three more of these. All right. Serving exhausted.

[Shane]

I will say a moment where I don't think I was, but I think everyone else was, for the most part, the. The promo for Anthony's funeral. Oh. And we are recording. We are also recording this episode before shooting the live show. But this episode's going to air after y. The live show and the promo already out. We'll see how. What. We served on the live show, which you can still probably go see the VOD of. But I know at least that in the promo, I thought everyone was like, oh, you. Yeah, I think. I think. I think Amanda. That was. That was definitely.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

Stun.

[Shane]

I think you stunned.

[Amanda]

Ian said he didn't recognize me, and I was like, does that mean I look like absolute poop? Poop every other day?

[Tommy]

I didn't recognize Ian. He was giving father. And I was like. I was like, how'd that happen?

[Shane]

When that tablecloth.

[Tommy]

Oh, my God.

[Amanda]

And he's like, this.

[Shane]

That was pretty intense.

[Tommy]

I'm like, put it away.

[Amanda]

I was like, why go away? I'm like, like, yeah.

[Shane]

Very excited. It's like, huh. No, it was the first time the booger guy.

[Tommy]

I don't know.

[Amanda]

I told.

[Shane]

I told Courtney this, but I was like, that's the first time Smosh has ever done something where I'm like, we looked cool.

[Tommy]

Yes.

[Shane]

And I was like, that's weird, because we've done. We've done big promos before, but we're always silly.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

We're always dumb.

[Shane]

It's like, kind of. It's always. Our content was always making us look stupid, and that was what we went for. But this was the first time where Courtney was determined to make us look really good.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Which is so weird, which is Courtney is literally serving all the time, in my opinion. So I am so glad that she was the director of this promo, because I think it's so good for Smosh to be seen as serving once in a while, because it's like. It's like when you watch a show you're like, okay, this is fun. There's a crime, there's silliness. Where's the sex, man? Like, we need a little bit of that, like, edge. Yeah. And it was, it was fun to see us all in that while playing characters that seemed like us.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

So.

[Tommy]

Well, I think my character is me.

[Amanda]

Your character is you. I'm the only one that is version of you, though, right? It's a darker version of you. It's like.

[Shane]

Is it darker?

[Amanda]

It's a living in the shadows version. It's almost like you haven't seen slept in days version of me.

[Tommy]

But that's just me.

[Shane]

That's just actually.

[Amanda]

Well, you covered up pretty well.

[Tommy]

Hey, thanks.

[Shane]

Hey.

[Tommy]

Hey.

[Amanda]

Okay, so us.

[Tommy]

Oh, us. Okay, so, us.

[Shane]

Okay, so us.

[Tommy]

You go.

[Amanda]

You go.

[Shane]

See, I still thinking back, I just feel like I didn't think I served as the chosen in that. I think it was like a different vibe, though. I think I looked. I think it was, it was cool.

[Tommy]

You were serving something.

[Shane]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm. What I'm saying overall, even going back to myself is not saying I'm not serving anything. I just feel like I'm not serving specifically bunt.

[Amanda]

Bundt cake.

[Shane]

And I guess, dare I say, is this an. I don't know if this is a wild opinion, but, like, how often are, like, CIS straight dudes like myself serving? I feel like it's just often not our, Our vibe.

[Tommy]

I would say it's a rarer.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

I think more experimental clothing styles usually open the door to doing something.

[Shane]

Like Timothee Chalamet maybe sometimes does. Or is that he gives off.

[Tommy]

One of those little pencils you use at the lottery stand. So it's like, I don't know if, like, there's no power in that.

[Shane]

Know what I mean?

[Amanda]

What about Harry Styles?

[Tommy]

Harry Styles? I, I'm sure we could find somewhere where he served cut. But, like, I, I.

[Amanda]

He's trying a little too hard. Is that what you're thinking?

[Tommy]

Sometimes I'm like, okay, good for you. But there's other times.

[Shane]

You know who I bet is at some point is maybe I'm wrong on this. Willem Dafoe.

[Tommy]

Honestly, probably.

[Shane]

I feel like that guy, that guy doesn't give a. Like, honestly, I'm not kidding him. In moments as Green Goblin in the.

[Tommy]

Spider man kind of context.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Like, there's so Conte.

[Shane]

He's just so, like, you know, I'm something of a scientist myself.

[Amanda]

You're like, you're doing it absolutely Serving.

[Shane]

Yeah. Like, I feel like that's. That's a good indicator of it.

[Tommy]

That's. That's.

[Amanda]

Is there, like, like, a top person out in this world on the Internet that you think is serving the king.

[Shane]

Or queen of Kant?

[Tommy]

I.

[Shane]

It's.

[Tommy]

It feels like a.

[Amanda]

Other than RuPaul.

[Tommy]

RuPaul doesn't serve cunt all that much. Sometimes.

[Amanda]

Sometimes?

[Tommy]

Well, I mean, it depends on the Runway. Sometimes it's mum, sometimes it's mother, sometimes it's cunti.

[Amanda]

Mother. It's very mother.

[Tommy]

It's usually like, how much leg do you got going on? But anyway, my. It feels like a cop out, but I think Tilda Swinton serves cunt all the time.

[Amanda]

100. That is not a cop out. 100%.

[Tommy]

It's just. I mean, I even, like, mentioned it in, like, in the show at one point. It's just.

[Amanda]

So Hilda is 100% serving because she is unapologetically, completely herself. She has such a unique look, but it's not even her look.

[Tommy]

No.

[Amanda]

Swear to God, she could, like, what was 300 years of longing? She dresses kind of like an old, frumpier woman, and I'm like, you're still serving?

[Tommy]

Yeah. It's just something about her, this air of art and, like, power and, like, timelessness to her. That's so cool.

[Amanda]

Yeah, it's just unique and. Yeah.

[Tommy]

Yeah. And she looks like a. Like a throwing star as a person.

[Amanda]

What is a throwing star?

[Tommy]

You know, like a little ninja throwing star.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God. To me, she looks like a vase. Like. Like a. Like a marvel. Like a marble vase that has, like, little, like, like iridescent vibes to it where you're just like.

[Tommy]

Pearly chips.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Pearly chips. She's a pearly chip.

[Tommy]

I'm hungry. Yeah.

[Amanda]

Thank you.

[Shane]

Okay. I respect that. That. Yeah, I really respect that. Damn. Okay.

[Amanda]

Do you have a. A. A white CIS male in your mind that you think is serving?

[Shane]

I mean, I.

[Amanda]

On the Internet, I'm.

[Shane]

I'm guessing. I don't really know. Willem Defoe was probably my.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Shane]

My number one. And I would say, like, when I think of it, I just think of, like, who's. Who are the most confident people who are themselves. And honestly, like, another one that comes to my mind is, like, Danny DeVito, but I'm also not.

[Amanda]

I can't. I can't.

[Shane]

I'm not kidding, though.

[Amanda]

I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't.

[Shane]

See, I am still learning. I am still learning.

[Amanda]

I 100 have thought this from the day. Monica Bellucci.

[Tommy]

Don't know who that is.

[Shane]

Oh, yeah, yeah, I know who you are.

[Tommy]

Googling her picture of a woman.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's a woman. Monica Bellucci. Okay, I get that.

[Tommy]

I don't know if I know her from things.

[Shane]

What. What. What movies is.

[Amanda]

She's now with Tim Burton.

[Shane]

Oh, well, that's.

[Amanda]

Which is so interesting. She's been in the Matrix. She's been in Spectre 4. Matrix Reloaded. Okay, that would be my.

[Tommy]

She's female. She's the. My husband doesn't touch me, but if you kiss me in the bathroom.

[Amanda]

Correct.

[Tommy]

Neo to Neo.

[Amanda]

Yes, Correct. Correct. Correct.

[Tommy]

She's kind of serving in that.

[Amanda]

I also think that Trinity is always serving.

[Tommy]

Oh, oh, oh.

[Amanda]

In the Matrix.

[Shane]

Okay, what about. What about Neo in the Matrix?

[Tommy]

Honestly, Kind of. Yeah, well, like, later on, like, at.

[Shane]

The end of the end of the first Matrix, when he, like, flies away, Morpheus is serving. Is he?

[Amanda]

Oh, in that Jack Matrix one.

[Shane]

The first Matrix, when he calls in.

[Amanda]

That jacket when he's just.

[Shane]

And when he calls him, he's just telling him what to do, he's like.

[Tommy]

Yeah, but I feel like Morpheus serves the most when he's on top of that big truck with, like, the swords. The sword fight. Matrix 2.

[Amanda]

2, 2. 2.

[Tommy]

Matrix 2. We got the two, like, squiggly ghost people.

[Amanda]

Yes, yes.

[Tommy]

All right. The twins. And then, like, he's on top of the thing, and he's like. He's got his little glasses.

[Shane]

Oh, okay.

[Tommy]

So cool.

[Amanda]

So how do we serve better?

[Tommy]

The science is not in yet. We're still learning in science.

[Shane]

But what do you think holds you back most?

[Amanda]

Yeah, my mind.

[Shane]

Because you have that. You've acknowledged that some days you are super confident.

[Amanda]

Honestly, as a female. Some days I wake up feeling like I am, like, feeling good. And then some days I wake up feeling I got hit by a truck, and I'm just like, ugh. And nothing fits.

[Shane]

I mean, I relate to that.

[Amanda]

Some days I'm like, ugh. Everything feels good. I feel light. And some days it's like, my. How did we get here? What happened to me?

[Shane]

What?

[Amanda]

I, like, come out especially with bangs.

[Tommy]

Who.

[Amanda]

Bangs are tough. In the morning, you'll put your hair through your bangs, and it's like, up, and you're just like, I look like a woman from the 80s and I live, like, in a park, and I'm just like, my son's out back.

[Shane]

Like, it's.

[Amanda]

Sometimes I'm just like, who am I?

[Shane]

You've been really. They've been. They've been slowly.

[Tommy]

Your bangs are banging.

[Amanda]

My bangs are coming back.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

I'm growing them out, though.

[Shane]

How are you gonna keep growing them out forever?

[Amanda]

Yeah, I'm gonna grow them out forever.

[Tommy]

Really long in the front and short.

[Amanda]

Yeah, really long in the front. And then I'm gonna do the Boston haircut where I shave the whole back up to here, and then I keep this long.

[Shane]

Awesome.

[Tommy]

That sounds great.

[Shane]

That's really, you know, that's really cool. Yeah.

[Amanda]

Serving.

[Shane]

I saw a photo recently of you from, like, I don't know, a year or so ago, where I was like, damn, your bangs were at one point.

[Amanda]

Super short on my wedding clothes.

[Shane]

My roast of you having the haircut of a 13th century crusade. Very accurate.

[Amanda]

My. My wedding photos were micro bangs, and I remember, and I loved them, and I still love them. And I've been like, having those nights where I'm like, I'm just going to cut them. But my mom, I remember before I got married, she was like, are you going to keep the bangs for your wedding? And I was like, mother, your mom.

[Tommy]

Was going to shave them off.

[Amanda]

I was like, no, I'm going to let them grow out in one week.

[Tommy]

Huh.

[Amanda]

And I love.

[Shane]

I think in that. I think in that moment, your mom was serving.

[Amanda]

Yeah, she was definitely serving cunt.

[Shane]

I think.

[Amanda]

In that way.

[Tommy]

In the way that Instagram takes down my post about it. Not in that way, please.

[Amanda]

She was serving. Yeah. Can serving be in a word, or is it all.

[Shane]

Is it more of a look? Is it more look, or is it more attitude?

[Tommy]

It's more attitude than it is the look. The look is definitely part of it. When you say a word, do you mean, like, if we looked at the word, the word sentence, and we were like, is the word sentence serving? Ooh.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Is that what you're saying?

[Amanda]

Sure.

[Tommy]

That's like a big brain stretch. But we could.

[Shane]

That's intense.

[Tommy]

We could stretch the imagination there.

[Amanda]

I wasn't saying that.

[Shane]

You're gonna get to that episode eventually.

[Amanda]

Yeah, maybe that.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

So, okay.

[Shane]

I'm trying to think of who we know also, because, like, I don't think. Okay, who. Who. If you had to vote, like, who out of, you know, who work here at Smosh, who would you say maybe serves the most?

[Tommy]

Courtney, hands down, really well.

[Shane]

Courtney's gonna freak out.

[Amanda]

I completely agree 100%. She's always serving.

[Tommy]

There's always a. They've always got a fit going on. Hair done. Even when it's just, like, a scraggly time. It's just like Courtney's so. Courtney, you know?

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Tommy]

And that's like, part of it completely.

[Shane]

I'm not gonna disagree with it, but I think the name that comes to my head is Chance. Because I just feel like Chance is just always so confident. Chance. Chance is one of the most confident people I've ever met.

[Amanda]

Absolutely.

[Shane]

But I also. I.

[Amanda]

That's tough.

[Shane]

That's enough.

[Amanda]

That's tough. I feel like. I don't know. That's really hard.

[Shane]

That is interesting, though. Courtney's going to freak out.

[Amanda]

Okay, so. So both of them are kind of up there. I do feel like Olivia is serving sometimes. Like, Like, I feel like she. She's usually serving, but sometimes when she's like coming in late and getting ready, she's. She's on her way to serving. I feel like she naturally is serving.

[Shane]

Olivia, who of the dudes in this office, do you think? Because, like, let's see, there's. There's like Alex.

[Amanda]

Alex and Games.

[Tommy]

Alex.

[Amanda]

Alex and Games is serving a man that can tuck his sweater into his pants. I am, I am.

[Shane]

I am impressed by Alex's ability to tuck full on sweaters into his pants.

[Tommy]

And it doesn't look. Fabric.

[Shane]

It doesn't look bad.

[Amanda]

Doesn't matter.

[Tommy]

It works.

[Amanda]

Fabric. He looks amazing. His earrings are always unique and different. And his hair is beautiful.

[Tommy]

It's that effort you put into yourself before you go outside that, like, adds to it also. See, serving, it's kind of like a smoothie. There's like a lot of pieces to it. Got a lot of factors. It's not ever just one thing. It's the accumulation of. Wow. I had something in my eye. Sorry. It's the accumulation of a bunch of different factors that altogether give you this power.

[Amanda]

I love it. So if there's serving cunt, there's other things. What are other things that Shane and I could be serving? Not just today, but in general. Like, if you thought of us in.

[Tommy]

Your mind, what is Amanda serving? You're. You know, you'll hate this. You'll hate it.

[Amanda]

No, I won't.

[Tommy]

But you have a supportive energy and very, like, comfortable, but you're also, like, a little haughty. And so there's this like. There's this like, aunt, young, hot aunt vibe. See, I told you you'd hate it. I told you you'd hate it.

[Shane]

Amanda, you constantly complain about being like, I'm like a mother.

[Amanda]

I don't want to be like, but mother is fine. Mom is.

[Tommy]

Yeah, you're not mom. You're not mommy.

[Amanda]

Well, I'm not upset. I'm not upset. I think that this is great. I like to know, because I am comforting someone the other day said that I give off top energy.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

That I'm like a top. Do you know what I mean by that?

[Tommy]

Shane, he's learned.

[Shane]

I know very.

[Amanda]

I'm like top energy. And I. I kind of fucking love that. And I told my husband that. I'm like, babe, I'm like, top energy. He's like, that's why I married you. And I was like, okay, cool.

[Tommy]

And that's the one. Sit down. And that's the one thing you're like, do the dishes. Yeah.

[Amanda]

And then I slapped him so hard across the face, his head went through the door.

[Shane]

People, our fans love to call me Shane Bottom.

[Tommy]

How do you feel about that?

[Shane]

I don't care. I. I think it's funny. I am completely unbothered by it. Truly. And. Yeah. No, it's. I think anything.

[Amanda]

Why are you crying right now? Why are you tearing up?

[Shane]

Matter to me.

[Amanda]

Okay, so if I'm top and Shane's bottom, what else is Shane? I'm mommy. Auntie. Comforting hottie. I heard that.

[Tommy]

Top, auntie, Hottie. Like, yeah. Mother love.

[Amanda]

Love.

[Shane]

Let us know in the comments, too.

[Amanda]

Those are really good.

[Shane]

What? Other nouns or adjectives. I feel like it's always nouns when you're saying you serve. It's a noun. Never use an adjective.

[Amanda]

Also, auntie is cool. Auntie's the type of person that picks you up from the party and is like, I won't tell your mom.

[Tommy]

Sit down.

[Amanda]

Sit down.

[Shane]

To see.

[Amanda]

Yeah, exactly.

[Shane]

That's great.

[Tommy]

Like, is okay if you get into some trouble and might get into some trouble with it. Yeah.

[Amanda]

But then also, I definitely have mommy. I definitely have some mommy vibes too.

[Tommy]

But, like, good. Like, mommy, Mommy. Not like. Not like mommy. Mommy. Honey, honey. Mommy, please.

[Amanda]

Okay, so then what is Shane? We already know he's bottom. He doesn't give off father energy to me.

[Tommy]

No.

[Shane]

Yeah. People don't. People can't make a decision.

[Amanda]

I would say he gives off more uncle. But then not.

[Tommy]

No, no. It's the vibe is his cousin. Energy is sexless in an okay way.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God. What? No, it's like, what?

[Shane]

Tommy, continue.

[Tommy]

Not that you don't have. I'm sure you do.

[Shane]

Yeah, I do.

[Tommy]

But it's like, that's not what you're like. You're not like, I'm trying to be sexy or I'm trying to be like a hottie.

[Shane]

Right. I'm not trying.

[Amanda]

No, keep going. I had mine. You keep going.

[Tommy]

Let's see, what do you serve? It's like. That's what I mean. It's like. It's not. It's not like. It's not like father. It's not top. It's not bottom.

[Amanda]

That's not what he serves. Hometown.

[Tommy]

Is that a thing you serve like best friend? Like. Like. Like buddy. Like confidant. Like, like. Yeah, yeah. Sedan.

[Amanda]

Yes, sedan. It'll get you there. Might riding once in a while, but it's gonna get you there.

[Shane]

I'm serving Corolla right now. Toyota Corolla.

[Amanda]

No, sedan is way cooler.

[Tommy]

Dependable, like, awesome. Well known. Go to, like, a rock. Like a rock.

[Amanda]

You know that commercial, Like a rock. Probably can't sing it here.

[Shane]

Yeah, you could probably get away with that. Just.

[Amanda]

Okay, maybe the truck commercial. I also feel.

[Shane]

I respect it.

[Amanda]

I also feel like hometown boy vibes.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I mean, like, guy who's.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

I mean, that's just Shane in general.

[Amanda]

That's just Shane in general.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Those are. Those are really good vibes.

[Tommy]

They're good vibes.

[Shane]

No, sexless is great.

[Amanda]

That's absolutely what you. I did not say sexless.

[Tommy]

Amanda didn't sign off on that.

[Amanda]

I didn't sign off on sex.

[Tommy]

And I. I further explained what I meant for sure.

[Amanda]

I think all you said was.

[Shane]

I think it's. I think it's really awesome. Tommy, you're serving huge.

[Amanda]

Loser.

[Shane]

Idiot.

[Tommy]

No.

[Amanda]

Oh, can we do. Can we do. Tommy.

[Shane]

Okay, I think I have an idea. I think I have a thought. Okay, with. Now, without the glasses. It's different with the glass.

[Amanda]

You had glasses on.

[Shane]

I think you're serving scientist. I was gonna say sexy science. I'm not seeing science. I'm seeing scholar. I'm seeing, like, we need to decipher something. Like, an ancient presence is known. I know an expert who might be able to help us out.

[Amanda]

You're serving. You're serving university. You're serving university. Like, boy in the shadows. Like, the guy who's like, boy in the shadows. Have you been in this house yet? Watch. Let me show you. You're serving like senior talking to freshmen.

[Tommy]

Let me show you the rope spots.

[Amanda]

No, no, no.

[Shane]

Like, no, I see, like, assistant professor. Like, he's new to the university.

[Tommy]

Ones that has to grade all the papers.

[Amanda]

See, I see the guy who's on the side who has a cigarette and is smoking it and is like, hey, do you know about the house on the hill? Come with me, guy in the shadows at the university who's just like.

[Shane]

I see that.

[Tommy]

Okay, okay, okay.

[Shane]

I see it sometimes now without the glasses. It's very different.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Tommy]

Stupid little boy.

[Amanda]

Not at all.

[Shane]

Not at nothing. There's nothing here.

[Tommy]

You're giving nothing.

[Amanda]

No, no.

[Shane]

I can't even see you at all. I don't know.

[Amanda]

It's hard. Also, you're giving. You're giving, like, first of all, to me, you're always giving, like, 80s, like, funky, like. Like quirky vibes, but also valedictorian, a little bit university, but then also boy in the shadow sea. You're giving me a lot of different things. But that's hard because I know you.

[Shane]

Yeah, it is hard.

[Amanda]

I know your personality. So I guess just by your looks, it's tough.

[Shane]

What I. What it makes me think about is. Yeah, it's hard for me to say specifically right now, but compared to when I first met you years ago, back when we were working at Defy, I feel like you have so much more confidence now than back.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

That. It is crazy. Like, I compare you now to then, and I'm like, well, whatever it is, you're serving far more of it now than back then. Yeah, back then, you served only anxiety. And I. I know that because you would say it. You would say how anxious you are.

[Tommy]

I'm not.

[Shane]

Well, you would say something like that.

[Amanda]

So, yeah, you're serving. You're serving less anxiety, more like, what is. What is this? Not royal, but like.

[Tommy]

Like a. Like a prissy confidence.

[Shane]

Regal. Not regal, just success.

[Amanda]

Serving, like, top of your class, valedictorian. Yeah, valedictorian. What? I actually, that. I did say that you're serving very. You're serving very university, very valedictorian, very in the know.

[Tommy]

Very big brain.

[Amanda]

Very big brain. You're serving, like, a little bit of, like, Queenie. Like a little queenie energy. Like a little, like.

[Tommy]

Is it, though. Is it mean?

[Amanda]

No, it's more like in the know.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Amanda]

Like, you're in the know. You have told you. You're the boy in the shadows who's just like, you know about this. You know about this place. You know what's going on here? Well, I know. Come with me. More like that.

[Tommy]

I'll take it.

[Amanda]

That's what I think.

[Shane]

I've got a question.

[Tommy]

I've got answers.

[Shane]

Who's. Who's got a better. Who's got a more confident vibe? Who's serving more of the two? Ian or Anthony? Oh, I think that's tough.

[Amanda]

Serving Hunt.

[Shane]

Serving Helen Hunt. I feel like that's tough.

[Tommy]

It's tough.

[Shane]

I feel like it's tougher than people think. Cause I think people are gonna just initially go, anthony. But knowing them, I don't know.

[Amanda]

I think it's really hard. And it's different in every scenario.

[Tommy]

Ian's also very much lately been more, like, confident and happy with himself and did a wardrobe shift. And he's got a different vibe than he used to have. So I feel like they're like.

[Amanda]

And Anthony's more of, like, the new guy here, so he's still figuring things out.

[Tommy]

Giving. Timid when he's getting.

[Amanda]

Yes, exactly.

[Shane]

Their confidences are in such different realms. Realms, you know? Cause Anthony really, I think, puts a lot of effort. Ian does, too, and especially lately. But Anthony really puts a lot of effort into, like, how he dresses. And, like, he's got all these cool tattoos and piercings and all this. This stuff. Like, he's put in a lot of work there that I think Ian just doesn't care about.

[Amanda]

I'm not sure that that's serving Ian's.

[Shane]

Ian's personality. Sometimes Ian really can be, like, unfazed in a way that's like, oh, you actually just won't let that hurt you. Or won't that let that affect you? And, like, going back to that promo, there's moments in it where it's just like, damn, Whoa. To see him all confident like this.

[Amanda]

I mean, yeah, Yeah. I had, like, a crush when he was the father.

[Tommy]

I was like, in that promo. Ian served maybe the most cut in that promo.

[Amanda]

That was probably him at his peak, I think. I think Ian's definitely serving. I really do. I think Anthony definitely serves. But I think right now, as being more of the new kid in this building, which is where we see him the most. I think Ian is serving because he's just got that, like, air of, like, I don't care. You know what I mean? That's what I'm thinking.

[Shane]

It's so interesting, though, how they are confident in such different ways. Yeah, I feel like it flip flops.

[Tommy]

This is what the show's like. There's no right opinion. You just kind of look at a thing and go, yeah, maybe that is.

[Amanda]

Go watch Tommy's show.

[Shane]

Yeah, definitely. Go watch it.

[Tommy]

Hopefully at this point, all five episodes will be out. We shot a sixth episode.

[Shane]

Shh.

[Tommy]

But it turned out really bad. Maybe I haven't looked at on set. It felt very. We tried something. Cause that was the whole point of it. We had the day. And so each person who came on, we had the thing that's kind of tailored to them and their vibe. And so each episode has its own very unique vibe to it, which is cool. And the way it's edited also by me, is very structured and uniform so that there's at least something. Because you go to a YouTube show, you want the same thing over and over again, but in different fonts. And one of the episodes turned out a little too off the tracks in a way that, like, maybe if the other episodes do really well, I'll release the sixth episode as a little surprise. Whoa. Wow. But, yeah, I think by now all five episodes will be out, and I think Courtney's is probably one of my favorites.

[Shane]

Ooh, fantastic. How much work? Cause you do so much on it. How much work was it and how long of a process was it from start to finish?

[Tommy]

I thought of the idea, like, probably like four or five months before we started filming. But that was right before my friend Alex and I did the Everything's getting worse here at Smosh. So we, like, had to throw that aside and just dive into adapting that to a streamed thing as opposed to a live show. Anyway, and so after that was done, I needed help in producing all of it. So I went back to Alex and we worked on it and produced, built it out and all that. And that probably took a month and a half, maybe two months. Ish. And filming was a day crazy. And then right after that, I had a little shakeup in life, and so I took a few weeks to kind of have some fun and recenter. And then I dove in to edit. And yeah, the first episode was crazy because it's like when you're diving into something that isn't made yet.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

And it's like we recorded a bunch of extra stuff, like on the day, little catchphrases and things like that, in case we wanted to use it.

[Amanda]

Yeah, right.

[Tommy]

Also, like, after the day was over and we realized that we didn't want to use that episode, which then also canceled out. Another thing that we filmed, it was only going to be five. So anyway, building out, like, making the sound effects, making the music, because I've made the music and the sound effects so I don't have to do a deal with copyright crap.

[Amanda]

Wow.

[Tommy]

Editing the graphics. Like, it's all me. It's all me. Front to back crazy. The end to and fro. So it's like I leave Smosh. I go home, I work out, I sit down, I chill out, and then I open my laptop and I work for Three or four hours, so. And then I come back here the next morning.

[Amanda]

How do you. So as a person who. I'm a very collaborative person and this seems like a project that is very much you on your own. How do you stay self motivated to continue to work a full time job and then come home and do your passion project by yourself? Like no one's telling you to get it done. How do you stay self motivated?

[Tommy]

Fear. Oh, fear. Amanda. Oh, Amanda. The answer would be fear.

[Amanda]

Serving.

[Tommy]

Serving fear. That's actually. I think what I serve the most is fear.

[Amanda]

And what are you like, fearing?

[Tommy]

Oh, just it's. For me, it was like having those three weeks off, it's like, wow, it's been almost a month since we filmed it. I need to get this done. What am I doing? You know, it's like I'm always scared of time going by too fast and then I'm old and then I'm dead. Like that's like always in the background. That's like the driving force of my person. Which is why, like, if you waste my time, I'm gonna be fucking pissed off at you.

[Amanda]

Right. Time matters.

[Tommy]

You stole my life is how I see it. It's very stark, but it's how I see it. So it's like there's only so much time left in the year. Right now as we're sitting down, I have three episodes out. I just kind of finished the fourth one at my lunch hour. Oh, I also work on my lunch hour when I'm here. For the most part.

[Shane]

I don't know how you do that.

[Tommy]

And well, I don't. It's this one time that I've been doing this. Otherwise, like, I don't feel. I think it was also all the effort leading up to it that's like, well, we gotta finish. We gotta finish the story. We gotta finish the job.

[Amanda]

Gotta finish the story. And it sounds like you've given yourself deadlines.

[Tommy]

Tried to. Absolutely tried to.

[Shane]

So.

[Amanda]

Tried to give yourself. Cause when you're self motivating and it's your own passion project, there's no one saying, hey, Tommy, this is due. Except for yourself. So setting deadlines is really good to kind of give yourself a basis of when this needs to get done and a bit more of a hurry. Yeah, right.

[Tommy]

But then also the other side of that coin, which is a great thing, is like I put out the first episode on a Saturday, I put out the second episode the next Saturday. And then I realized I'm too far behind and I can't make the next Saturday. Like, I can't. That deadline just couldn't be done. And so, like, I was just like, oh, I can do whatever I want, actually. And so I was like, see you in two weeks.

[Shane]

Oh, it's my channel.

[Tommy]

Yeah. And then I did. And then I did the two weeks, and there's that one. And then I ran into a humongous roadblock. And so it's. It's going to be two more weeks until the next episode's out. But, like, whatever.

[Shane]

Who cares?

[Amanda]

You are your own.

[Tommy]

I'm going to watch it.

[Amanda]

You are your own boss. You are your own CEO.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Would you. Would you rather be on your own in that sense, or would you rather have a team being like, no, that's not okay, Tommy. But then also help you with deadlines and stuff?

[Tommy]

It would be different if I was getting, like, also paid to do this work, even though it's, like, my thing, you know, if there was, like, for me, the motivation's just, I want to get it out and get it done. But, like, if a team was like, tommy, you need to do this, I'd be like, well, who produced the show? Who's editing the show? You know, I'd be like, I'd be. Get off my ass.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

So I'm glad no one's doing that right now. But if it was more official, like, let's say this turns into, like, a chicken shop date kind of thing, which is like, the idea. It's just like, I want any person to come on and sit down with me and have a box. You got it. So fun. So it's like, if that were to happen, then I'd want a bigger team, and then it would be like, hopefully by then I would have an editor who can see the format and just do that.

[Amanda]

Right.

[Shane]

But you're not doing this with any. You've talked to me about it a little bit over the months, and you're doing this ultimately for fun.

[Tommy]

Yep.

[Shane]

Like, you're doing it for the passion of it and the joy of it. And that's probably why it turned out so great and probably part of why you actually were able to do it. Because, like, if you're going about this, like, I need to. To be doing my own projects, I need to. Because that's my line of thinking when I'm trying to do stuff outside of Smosh. And it's why I feel like I haven't succeeded is because I'm coming from this place of obligation of, like, oh, I should. I should be doing other things. And I. Yeah, I gotta find something to do. And I. I make it more work, and then I just hate it. And I'm exhausted because we. We film long days here, and it's a lot of work, what we do. And so I get home and I'm like, The thought of expending more creative energy, I just don't have it. But if it was something that was purely for fun.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Then it's a little different.

[Amanda]

A passion project has to be something that's fun. And I also see it as like a fire that's inside of you, that if you don't tend to it, you're gonna burn up, you're gonna burst. That's how I see passion projects. Like when I wrote my One Woman Show, It, I literally wasn't like, and now I will write my One Woman show it, like, bursts out of anger and sadness and excitement and fear and joy until I was, like, listening to music that I was obsessed with and just writing. Like. I feel like passion projects have to birth from this big magic moment. I love Elizabeth Gilbert, and that book is amazing. But that big magic moment, you're like, bing, light bulb. And then if you gotta. It's almost like if you don't jump on it, you're gonna combust.

[Tommy]

Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, the fun part is the most important part. Like, as much as it is work and it is stuff like that, it's like trying to have fun during the whole process as much as you can.

[Amanda]

You have to remind yourself of that because sometimes you can get to a place where you're like, I've gotten so far. I feel sick right before I'm about to perform. Why am I doing this?

[Tommy]

Literally.

[Shane]

And some parts of anything are just not fun. Nothing is fun through and through. And you have to accept that. It's like, okay, well, parts of this are gonna suck.

[Amanda]

Yeah, parts of this are gonna suck.

[Shane]

But if the most of it will be fun.

[Amanda]

Yeah, exactly. If you think about it and there is that, like, level of fun, it is what's gonna drive you. But if it's not fun, if you're doing it for someone else or if you signed onto a project with another collaborative person who you almost like, oh, then those are things that I just think nowadays are just not worth it.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Time is precious.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

But maybe that's because we're all 30.

[Amanda]

Yeah. I just think it's so cool that you're doing this.

[Shane]

It's really cool.

[Amanda]

Amazing.

[Shane]

Is there added pressure? Because the. You know, it. It's done very well, thank you. And, I mean, I don't know what you were expecting when you put it out, but.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Does it add more pressure? Has it changed your point of view on making it now that you know a decent audience has watched it and likes it?

[Tommy]

Yeah. I mean, the Mac episode is like 200k views, which is like, that's really great. That's a good amount when you're.

[Shane]

When you're doing it all yourself.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And that's like some of your first episodes on a channel that's actually insane.

[Tommy]

It is crazy.

[Shane]

You know, you think about it, like, most YouTubers truly go years getting hardly any views.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And so by the time you're getting views, it's like, well, I've been doing this so long that it's one thing, but this is your first.

[Tommy]

Yeah. I mean, the. It adds pressure in a way where it's just like, I want to get them out. You know, it's like. It's like if it's already. If the audience is there and is hungry for it, then it's like, like, damn, this extra week that I have to take to edit it, I'm like, it's not my favorite thing, but that. So that's like the only pressure. Otherwise. It's like, I feel like with most things, you just have to convince someone to buy into your idea, and then once they're bought in, they're bought in. So it's like, even if one episode doesn't hit the same way or whatever, it's like, you'll still enjoy it. They're still part of it. Yeah. But, yeah, there's no big. I literally was like, this'll get 30k views total. I literally was like, all the episodes total will get. And then that'll be that. And that'll be fun. And that's fun.

[Amanda]

Fun and low expectations are also part of a passion project. If you do it for fun and low expectations, like, I'm just doing this because it's fun. And then something bigger happens.

[Shane]

That's how you do it the best. Someone said this recently, I think I want to say it was. Alex said something that there's, like, a saying at some university of, like, they have a no masterpiece policy. And when I heard that, I was like, oh, that's really great. Because what's held me back over the years is my perfection. And it's something that I've thought about for my entire time at Smosh. It's been like a, oh, well, I should make my own videos. I should work on my own channel, and it's just so hard. But I think part of that is that I put this pressure of, like, what it needs to be, as opposed to, like, I could literally film some bullshit and upload it to a channel, and that might be better than nothing. It's certainly something I am. I have been pondering and would love to try and do at some point, which is making my own channel and making my own stuff. But I'm not making any promises to those.

[Amanda]

I think that that's awesome, because I think the best way to kind of move through that is to just make stuff that you're passionate about in that moment. And a lot of it will happen, and it happens, and then it just goes. But you get used to making and then moving on and making and moving on and making, and then maybe something else comes from that, and then it's like a double meaning. It's like, oh, someone. You know. It's just. If you are passionate about it, jump on it. Because I always think that when I am, like, old, hopefully in my bed dying, like the woman on the Titanic, I hope that I'm like, God, I jumped on most of my passion projects, and one did well. I always think back to that. That is my motivator.

[Tommy]

It's kind of the same thing that I have where it's like, I'm gonna be dead one day, and so I better be happy about that.

[Amanda]

And the Titanic woman, too.

[Tommy]

A thing that I. So before it did well, there was a different kind of pressure that. I see what you're saying. I didn't think about. I was like, wait, this is my debut in this medium. I was like, oh, oops. I didn't think about. I was just like, yeah, I'll shoot the show and it'll be fun and edit it, and we'll put it up. And then as it was happening, I was like, oh, my God, this is me doing it feels actually way bigger than just like, oh, yeah, put it on my YouTube channel. And then because I kind of, like, accidentally fell into doing that, I was like, all right, whatever. I was like, okay, if it does well, who cares? Or if it does. If it doesn't do well also, who cares? And. And who knows? I could put out five episodes of Serving Cunt and then put out a different thing on that channel or I'll disappear. I'll do whatever I want to do, actually.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

And, yeah, all that matters, actually. Fine.

[Amanda]

You're following your passion.

[Tommy]

Mm.

[Amanda]

You know.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Right?

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Hell, yeah.

[Tommy]

Just, like, letting go of that, like, the Pressure of it. It's still there.

[Shane]

Well, it's still there. Yeah. And, I mean, look, you're killing it, but it's.

[Amanda]

It's there in, like, a fun way.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

But we do want to have a little end segment.

[Shane]

Yeah, Our. Our one for today is we're trying new things. We're trying new things. Did we have. Okay. Yeah. Lip service?

[Amanda]

Yeah, lip service.

[Shane]

So this is. This is our little gossip segment.

[Amanda]

This is like silly tea or gossip or things that we have insider into that maybe you might not know.

[Shane]

Yeah. And it could be about. You know, it can be about anything you want. It doesn't have to be. It doesn't be like, celebrity gossip or even gossip about here at Smosh. It could be like any. Anything in the whole world.

[Amanda]

Anything in the whole world.

[Shane]

I have been thinking about it all day, and I'm struggling. This is definitely. I am not good at coming up with tea.

[Amanda]

This one's. This one's hard.

[Shane]

This one's really tough.

[Amanda]

But if you're good at coming up.

[Shane]

With tea, here's our segment that we're putting right on you.

[Amanda]

Here's our segment. Tommy, would you like to go first?

[Tommy]

Yeah. Yeah, I can go first. At least the tea. And the Bow family right now is. My dad is working toward retirement. Whoa. Which is awesome. Oh, that is key, because Mr. Thomas Bowe Jr. Needs to sit down. He needs to sit down, and he needs to have another rum drink. And you should, Tom. Yeah, yeah, that's up and coming. Okay, there's that.

[Amanda]

Yeah, I like that. That's very good. Here's my tea. It's very dumb. I just thought of it right now, this moment. I kind of lied to my husband last night, but. Whoa. This is tea. So we're both kind of intermittent fasting. And I was like, yeah, I'll do it with you. Absolutely. We were supposed to be done at 8, and then at 8:15, I went in the fridge and I poured myself a little gin and soda with, like, a lime. And I was like, oh, shit. It's past intermittent fasting. And I opened the soda water and poured it in, and he went. Got up and ran into the kitchen and went, what's that? I just went, soda water. And he was like, it's after our time. And I was like, it's soda water.

[Tommy]

Damn.

[Amanda]

He was like, to his face. Really? And I was like, yep. And he was like, yum. Can I have some? And I was like, no, I'll make you one. And I made him one. He knew I was fucking lying. And I was just like, I'll make you one. And he was like, okay, okay. I was like, okay. And that's my fucking nutty tea.

[Tommy]

That's some nutty tea.

[Amanda]

That's my lip service for today.

[Tommy]

Shane, you got anything?

[Shane]

It's, it's. It's more confessing a secret, but it's. I guess so in a way it's tea. Back when I was. I want to say I was like 15, we were visiting my family and I were visiting some family friends, and they had a son who was like, had to have been like 8 to 10 years old. But in their backyard, they had like a really nice backyard. And like any. They were, you know, like a middle class, upper middle class family. They had like a bunch of nice toys. And like, he had like several bikes and stuff like that, like, you know, that kids have. But he had like, they were like small little bikes. And you know, me at 15, me still now. If I see any form of like, bike, I'm gonna try to see if I can ride it. You know, if it's like a tiny. But you know when a bike is like too small for you and it's just really tempting to be like, well, can I ride this little tiny bike? And so like, there's a little, tiny bike in their backyard. And I was kind of just like alone just in the backyard, and I was like, I'm gonna try to ride this tiny little bike. I get on this tiny little bike and I break the fucking seat off like, fully.

[Tommy]

How instantly did it happen?

[Shane]

Oh, pretty instantly. Like I sat on it, fucking broke off. And I was like, like broke off from the, like the rod of the sea level. It's. But, well, it wasn't. I don't. I forget how it broke so easily, but I was like, oh, my God. And I like kind of repositioned it back and then was just like, okay and didn't tell a soul and just kind of like put it back where it was. Maybe it was a cheap bike and it doesn't matter. Maybe they wouldn't care. They'd be able to easily get another bike. And it was also not their only bike. But I definitely was just like, okay. And I never heard anything about it since, but I did that. And I felt bad. I think about it occasionally because I.

[Amanda]

Saw the mom was in the window.

[Shane]

Like, I saw what he did.

[Tommy]

She's like, finally, that bike's going to be.

[Shane]

I saw you break his bike. I felt more bad that I'm like, that kid's going to try to sell that bike Break.

[Amanda]

The friggin rod's going to go.

[Shane]

No, it wasn't. It didn't break like that. It didn't. It didn't break like that. It broke in a way that that wouldn't be what happened, but it's still.

[Tommy]

That kid's in a full body cast.

[Shane]

From that light accent.

[Amanda]

You're serving asshole right now.

[Shane]

But I feel bad about it.

[Amanda]

Wow. Lift service.

[Shane]

The tea is on myself.

[Amanda]

The tea is on yourself. The tea's on all of ourselves.

[Shane]

I spilled tea all over myself.

[Tommy]

I'm wet.

[Amanda]

You're wet.

[Shane]

Oh great.

[Amanda]

And with that, guys, please go watch Tommy's show. Serving cunt. AKA serving Helen Hunt.

[Tommy]

Yeah. YouTube.com serving I think it's slash at now. Slash at. Fun to say. Tomey bones. T O M E Y B O.

[Amanda]

N E S We'll attach it below.

[Shane]

Hell yeah. And let us know what our vibes are.

[Tommy]

Yeah. What are we all serving?

[Shane]

Yeah. Give us the vibes, give us the nouns.

[Amanda]

What are we serving?

[Shane]

And we'll see you later.

[Amanda]

We'll see you later. We're so proud of you, Tommy.

[Shane]

Proud of you, Tommy. Bye.

[Amanda]

Love you. Love.

[Shane]

I love you.

[Tommy]

I mean, sorry.

[Shane]

No, love you.

[Amanda]

I mean, can you pick me up now?

[Shane]

Oh, God.