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Shane Topp
Hi. Welcome back to the smoshcast. I'm Shane Topp.
Amanda Leehancanto
And I'm Amanda leehancanto. And we have a lovely guest with us, Angela Girtana.
Shane Topp
You just.
Amanda Leehancanto
I just asked her how to say her. Well, I always say Giordani. Giordani.
Shane Topp
It also doesn't help that on. On. You don't have your actual last name. On, like, your. Your.
Amanda Leehancanto
On my socials, she does. She has her full name, Giovanna, because.
Angela Girtana
For some reason, Angela Girdana's taken by some lady in Italy. So I have my full name, my middle name. Angela Giovann Gir.
Shane Topp
I think that's why I get confused. I don't know where the middle name.
Amanda Leehancanto
And the last name begins, where it starts.
Shane Topp
I don't know where. Where it starts, where it ends, what it is.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, it's okay.
Angela Girtana
You could just call me Angela G.
Amanda Leehancanto
I guess I'll call you Angela Girardan.
Shane Topp
Angela Giratana.
Angela Girtana
Yeah, that's it. Honestly, my dad says Angela. My dad says Giratana, so it doesn't really freaking matter.
Amanda Leehancanto
Gear.
Shane Topp
Is that. Does that matter?
Angela Girtana
It really doesn't matter.
Shane Topp
Does your dad not know his own last name?
Angela Girtana
No, it just doesn't matter. I think if you were really pronouncing it, you said giratana.
Amanda Leehancanto
Giratana.
Angela Girtana
I would say that. So you could say giratana or Giratana or giratana.
Amanda Leehancanto
That's actually better for me. Giratana.
Angela Girtana
Okay, great.
Shane Topp
Angela Giratana.
Angela Girtana
Okay, yeah, see, I like giratana.
Shane Topp
Okay, then.
Amanda Leehancanto
Okay, we'll do that.
Shane Topp
All right. You just told us it doesn't matter.
Angela Girtana
I like saying that with my mouth.
Shane Topp
Okay.
Angela Girtana
But I don't care what you say.
Amanda Leehancanto
This is actually perfect that we're trying to figure out, like, which draft to go with, because today we're working on having writer's block. Creative block. All of us have experienced it many times, and I feel like all three of us are going through it right now.
Shane Topp
Well, we were talking about this the other week, and that's why I came up with the idea for this episode. You were talking about how you've been dealing with writer's block this for, like, this whole year.
Angela Girtana
Yeah. I feel like I've had multiple conversations.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah. Yeah.
Shane Topp
I've been dealing with it for years. I really struggle with it. I struggle with motivation and the creature creative world. I think it's because partially here at Smosh, we are constantly doing so much that there is a little bit of just, like, constant burnout. So whenever I get home and I'm like, oh, I want to write something for myself. I just don't have the motivation. And I'm also very much a perfectionist, and that comes in waves where it sometimes gets really bad, where I can't do anything. Then I can. I'm able to let go of it for a little bit, and then I can write and have fun. The thing is, I don't even want to write something or be creative for any sort of productive purposes. I want to do it for fun, but I've had a hard time capturing the fun.
Amanda Leehancanto
I think our cups are empty. I feel like we. I feel like, to have. Personally, for me to, like, have writers, like, excitement and creativity, I have to be out in the world, just taking it in. I have to, like, have a week where I'm, like, introverted and taking it in, filling up my cup and, like, being like, oh, that's fun. I can never sit down and be like. I mean, I've had to a million times, but I can never sit down and be like, I have to write this sketch about this really cool character.
Angela Girtana
That's what you said to me before our huge writer's block conversation. I remember I had, like, a show coming up, and I was like, oh, I have nothing to. I want to bring something new. And you went, just go on a walk and go. Go out. Go to a mall. And I was like, oh, you're right. Like, just go outside and, like, see. Just do something outside of their normal. But then you get really stuck, and then I get it. But it's also the difference, I think here at Smosh, there's like. There's like, the Try not to laugh adrenaline creating, where it's like, there's a gun to your head. You create. And I think I get really used to that when working here, which is like, oh, I love to make stuff when somebody's like, do it now. Do it now. Do it right now. Here's a live show. Make it now.
Amanda Leehancanto
And then it lives and dies there. It, like. It's. It's gone. You don't have to, like, rehearse it over weeks and perfect it and do multiple drafts with. Try not to laugh. You just do it, and then it's gone. Yeah.
Shane Topp
Yeah. There's. There's a lack of. It's scarier when you're putting a lot of thought into something.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah.
Shane Topp
And you are sitting down and you're investing so much more as opposed to, I have to go out there and do this right now. And maybe it'll be dumb, but it'll be funny that it's dumb as opposed to actually working on something for a while. And I know people watching and listening to this. You may not be in the creative space, but. But I think everyone relates to this in some way or another where you know, you love to do something, but you hold yourself back from doing a thing you love because it starts to matter. The result of it matters or if it. How other people view it and you stop getting into that flow state.
Amanda Leehancanto
The joy, the joy of doing it.
Shane Topp
Right.
Amanda Leehancanto
I feel like you lose. You get into like a slump. Exactly. You think about the result and then you lose that. Like, oh, wait, I'm writing comedy sketch. Like this is supposed to be fun or whatever you're doing. You're like, oh, why did I start this? Oh, Cause I really enjoyed it. Yeah.
Angela Girtana
It's not even creative. It goes back to just process oriented stuff. Like, even people at my gym talk about, like just the process of like working out and building a workout or just anything like that. It's just ups and downs and just figuring out ways for your brain to just find never. I mean, your brain gets bored at the same process over and over again. Some people can keep going. Some people can just do the same thing over and over again.
Shane Topp
But then some people are so impressive. Patrick, who worked here for a long time, our good friend, he writes like I've never seen anyone write before. That man just churns it out and he enjoys it and he loves it. But I think that's what I really notice with people like him is that that although he has found a lot of success and he's truly so talented, he doesn't do it for success. He. He does it because he loves it. I feel like that man has to just be creating.
Angela Girtana
He does it to literally process. Like. Like he'll be in the car and he'll say he just. He's thinking through something, like emotionally, and he'll write something.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, exactly. It's like he's journaling a little bit.
Angela Girtana
But he wrote poetry the other day. Right. Like we were laughing about it, but he was like just processing an emotion. I don't. I think he'd be fine with me telling that.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah.
Angela Girtana
But yeah, he just. He's a actual writer who processes emotion through writing.
Shane Topp
But I'm so impressed by. I'm so impressed by people like him and I'm. I'm envious of people being able to get into that state where they're just lost in their work. That's what I want.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah.
Shane Topp
I don't care if people like the stuff I make. I don't care if it does well, if it goes anywhere. I want to enjoy the process, and I've struggled with that for my entire life.
Amanda Leehancanto
But I also feel like your work is your, like, extrovertedness on camera. Like, that's also where your work is right now. And I feel like in order to enjoy the other part, we have to, like, take a step away from that. Because, remember, you're constantly creating just, like, in your head and performing and talking to people. That's like, your art.
Angela Girtana
Yeah, I've seen you, like, give notes on just, like, trying to think of something specific. But I've seen you give notes on just like, I don't even know what it is, but you give notes on, like, camera, like, when we're on camera. And I think you do have a process. It's just different. It's just not writing, but it's on camera. Like, relational stuff.
Shane Topp
Right. I think having done this for so long and when we're just in the zone and going and. Yeah, I guess my flow state is when I'm on camera and we're doing. Try not to laugh or what, all of our different shows, then I'm just creating on the. On the spot. I mean, even our DD show, we're telling a story together. And that. I'm not thinking about that, but I really would like to tap into the other side and be able to sit down and, you know, something truly a dream of mine someday. It does not have to be published, but I would love to write a book.
Angela Girtana
Yeah, you've talked about that already.
Shane Topp
I would love to write a book, just even for my own sake. If it was a draft that was like, up in the attic that my grandkids someday finally, like, oh, grandpa wrote a book.
Amanda Leehancanto
Tape top.
Shane Topp
It's dog shit. But he wrote a book. I just think it'd be so fun, but I hold myself back. It's so tough and so, so excited. Really, really quick. What we are doing today is we were thinking about Angela's writer's block. We were thinking about how we're dealing with it too. Literally. A few days ago, we text Angela at like, 10pm Yeah, 10pm, both of us.
Amanda Leehancanto
Sorry.
Angela Girtana
Hello, Angela.
Shane Topp
And we literally both go, angela, you're on the podcast next Monday. Write a sketch. And we're gonna read it.
Amanda Leehancanto
The dumbest sketch.
Shane Topp
It needs to be bad. Write a bad dog shit sketch.
Amanda Leehancanto
Like, the first draft of it.
Angela Girtana
Jane said, if it's not absolute dog shit, I'm quitting. Smosh.
Shane Topp
If this is good, I'm leaving.
Amanda Leehancanto
So Jane's gonna quit after this.
Shane Topp
It's probably gonna be.
Angela Girtana
No, I absolutely delivered. Cause I was like, he cannot quit. Smosh. I'll write the worst.
Shane Topp
And we didn't tell you that we also were going to write sketches and bring them in. I ended up writing two because I wrote one, and I. I hated it so much that I'm like, I'm going to write another. I also hate that one. I hate them both.
Amanda Leehancanto
See, that's perfect.
Shane Topp
But I'm going to read them. And Amanda.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, I. I did, like, a different writer's block. I went back to my old work where a weird thing that I would have. I would get writer's block when I would write something that I was like, oh, my God, I love this so much. And then I would pitch it to a group, and it just bombed so hard. Like. Like. Like. I think the director was like, what? What? Where did this come from? What made you think that this was, like, good? And I was like, oh. And so that. That causes me. Writer's block is the doubt and the fear. So I wanted to bring something from five years ago that I thought was great.
Shane Topp
Whoa.
Amanda Leehancanto
But it bombed, and it definitely caused me writer's block. Cause I was, like, fearful. I was like, the next sketch, I was like, here's a woman ordering something at a burger place or whatever. Like, I was so afraid.
Angela Girtana
Oh, that's so scary.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah.
Angela Girtana
Have you guys heard the thing that Ira Glass says about the space in between? Or, like, the chasm thing?
Amanda Leehancanto
No.
Angela Girtana
There's a talk. He says, and I think right before we do this, Ira Glass, it's like a. He, like, talks about this, like, the space in between, like, your ability to create and your taste. And it's like your taste level is, like, at a certain level. And you watch things and your taste builds, but your ability to create is at a different level. So, like, your taste can be so high because, like, you. You are watching stuff, and you have good taste at some point, but your ability to create is not that fast, so you'll make something. And you're like, this is absolute dog shit. And he says, like, good artists can sit in the difference between having good taste and being like, oh, here, these are my heroes, and this is their work, and my work is not that. But I could sit there and not be uncomfortable, and I can just keep going. And my ego isn't bruised. I can write bad shit, and I'm just gonna keep going.
Amanda Leehancanto
That's how you get through writer's block, probably. It's like you just keep going.
Angela Girtana
But that's what's so great about this exercise is. Is like saying, hey, we're gonna write bad shit. And, like, kind of not being like it's bad and just being like, this is bad, and we're gonna laugh at it.
Shane Topp
Right. And I've seen both of you write and do such funny stuff, and these are probably gonna make me laugh. I. I'm certain of it. But I think it's also true that what you see, like, the books you see published, the movies that you see out, that's a very, very refined product.
Amanda Leehancanto
That's also multiple people.
Shane Topp
There's tons of people, and that's everything. Even a book that's one author is always a team, but you're seeing something that's probably been revised a million times. They work on that shit for years. So the first draft is probably beyond worse than you could imagine. I remember hearing about, like, the. I forget who told me this. You just hear about things like this in this industry. But apparently the. The initial draft of Good Will Hunting by Matt Damon and Brian.
Amanda Leehancanto
I heard this too.
Shane Topp
Apparently, it was so bad.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, I heard that they had an Easter egg in it.
Shane Topp
What do you mean?
Amanda Leehancanto
Like, they had the Ben Affleck and Matt Damon wanted to sell it to the right person, and they realized that people weren't actually reading the full script, so they put in an Easter egg. Maybe this is a myth, but this is what I heard, that Robin Williams sucks Matt Damon's dick during a therapy session. During a therapy session. They didn't want that in there, but they wanted to see if people would read it. So people like, oh, yeah, it was good. Pass. Whatever. And then I think the guy who bought it was like, I love the script. I don't like that Robin Williams sucks Matt Damon's dick. It doesn't make any sense. And they're like, you got it.
Shane Topp
I take back the myth that I heard that it was bad. That sounds incredible.
Amanda Leehancanto
Brilliant. So I don't know what the truth is, but that's what I heard.
Shane Topp
That's so funny. See, I had heard.
Amanda Leehancanto
Maybe I'm.
Shane Topp
And I think I've heard this about. I think I've heard this about other scripts, too, about, like, the initial draft for a. For a movie. That is incredible.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah.
Shane Topp
That the initial draft was horrible.
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Shane Topp
And that they brought in other screenwriters to help punch it up. And that's a profession in this industry, too, is people who just go in, make scripts better.
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Amanda Leehancanto
See, that's why I feel like writer's block is so universal, because it's like. I think working. Some people thrive working alone. But I think as human beings, like, working alone is really hard because it's hard to ignite that. Unlike Patrick, who, like, literally processes all his amazing emotions through writing. But I think for most of us, starting the engine to work alone is, like, daunting.
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Amanda Leehancanto
Like, what is that book? Art of War. War of. Art of War.
Shane Topp
Art of War.
Amanda Leehancanto
No, no, no, no.
Shane Topp
You're talking about that old school. The Art of War is an old school book, but I don't think it's anything to do with writer's block.
Amanda Leehancanto
No, no, no. The other one.
Angela Girtana
The Art of the War.
Amanda Leehancanto
War of Art. I think it's called War of Art. It's called War of Art. And I've had. It's, like, small. It's white. Yeah. It has black writing. And it's all about writing through writer's block. And it's about go in, open up your laptop, or however you write. If you want to write on a. You know, a feather pen, fine. Great. Love it. Go in and just write for, like, on a timer for, like, 30 minutes. Close it. Do not read it, then go do something else. Go out in the world, then come back.
Angela Girtana
I like the artist's way, how they have you do morning papers.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah. Artist's Way is also great.
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Shane Topp
I just. Yeah.
Amanda Leehancanto
There's so many things to do, but I think starting it alone, that's why these other scripts have collaborative people jumping in.
Shane Topp
Yeah.
Angela Girtana
The process is to make you feel like you are stuck and that you are alone, similar to depression. And I think that you have to realize that it's a like. Just like Patrick. I do know that Patrick has dealt with writer's block and that people deal with it, and the way to do it is to, like, gather together. That's why, like, I do remember when we talked about you guys also having writer's block, it was the best thing. Cause I was like, oh, my gosh, Community. We can handle it together.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah. Human beings have to do things together. Like, that's why I love this. I'm like, this is good. No matter what happens when we read this, no matter how much dog shit we're about to read, we fucking did it. I feel like we did the hardest thing, which is like, sit down and do it.
Shane Topp
And to bring it here is really vulnerable and crazy, too. I want to stress. I wrote these yesterday.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yes.
Shane Topp
And I did not reread them.
Angela Girtana
Me either.
Shane Topp
I wrote them out. I'm like, whatever. And that's what I do with anything I write. Because that's also my fear of perfectionism coming out where I write something and. And I just don't even wanna look at it. I'm like, it's bad. I'm gonna essentially throw it away. And I've written a lot of things over the years that I've just never reread.
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Shane Topp
Bad.
Amanda Leehancanto
So how do we get, like you were talking about? How do we get comfortable in that? In between, how do you.
Angela Girtana
I think it's doing things like this.
Shane Topp
Yeah. I think also for me, though, I have learned. And this is kind of a recent revelation. It's a revelation that I come back to a lot. I was reading this book called Radical Acceptance, which is this more psychological take on Eastern philosophy, like Zen Buddhism and stuff, but taking on a more psychological view of it. And a lot of it's about how the only way to kind of, like, move forward in life is to stop. For me, the way I interpret it is, like, resisting myself. And I have the perfectionism, and I'm trying to get over the perfectionism which makes this war in my head, as opposed to the way that I actually get over my writer's block and just motivation problems in general is to accept who I am without achieving any of those things. It's like, oh, I can never write another thing in my life. I could fail at everything. I could amount to nothing. And that's okay. Yeah, I am accept. I have to accept that before I can then move on. Because there's always going to be that pressure of, I need to do this thing in order to prove something to myself and to others, and that's gonna never allow me to enjoy the thing. And I notice what's interesting is I don't have motivation issues when it comes to working out because I don't think I put that same level of importance. I've done it for so long.
Amanda Leehancanto
It's not your career.
Shane Topp
I've done it for so long that it's truly just a, like, thing that I do for myself. I've often said that if there were no people left on the planet, or if I was stranded on an island but had supplies, I. I would still work out every day because it's more of a meditation thing that I do for myself.
Amanda Leehancanto
It's your process that you haven't attached a pass or fail result to it. And I feel like if anyone watched Soul. Pixar. Soul being blank. Okay, Pixar, Soul Britain. No, it's not at all branding this at all. But if that's like, our artists, our work is not. Is not who we are. It's actually like our joy for life, our hobbies, the things that make us happy. So I feel like if we took off some of the pressure, I feel like that's how you get through writer's block. And I think that's literally like shutting it down and going out in nature and talking to people and having a conversation with a person.
Shane Topp
You have to let it go in order to embrace it.
Angela Girtana
I wrote mine last night too. I wrote it lying down horizontally in bed.
Amanda Leehancanto
How?
Angela Girtana
I was just at my laptop and I was just like, your laptop?
Shane Topp
Beneath your tongue. Literally.
Angela Girtana
Literally. And I was like, have you ever.
Amanda Leehancanto
Had a FaceTime come in when you're doing that and then you're like, oh, the fuck?
Angela Girtana
Like, sup, girl?
Shane Topp
I love those memes. It reminds me of those memes where it's like when Netflix cuts to the black screen, says, are you still watching? And you can see the reflection of yourself in the tv. And you're like, oh, God, you jump. You jump. Scare yourself.
Amanda Leehancanto
You're like, what horror movie is this? But you're just like, it's truly a nightmare.
Angela Girtana
That was me last night. And then I scrolled up and I started reading the first line I had already written. And I went, I'm not gonna reread it.
Shane Topp
You know what? I'm good.
Amanda Leehancanto
I'm glad. First draft. Let's keep it mine. I will say, is not first draft. Like, I kind of worked hard on it. And then when it bombed so hard and I got asked, what made you think of. What made you think of this?
Shane Topp
That's intense.
Amanda Leehancanto
Whenever a director goes, what made you think to do this? What's funny about this to you?
Shane Topp
You have to go, that's so intense.
Amanda Leehancanto
No, that's mean.
Angela Girtana
Oh, that happened to me with my sketch team and I. Cause I pitched Tomato doctor and they were like, what?
Shane Topp
That sounds incredible.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah.
Angela Girtana
And then we ended up doing it, but they were like, what's funny to you about this? And that's always a hard question to answer.
Amanda Leehancanto
Tomato doctor. Just put them together.
Shane Topp
Alright, let's do it. Do we want to hop into one of these?
Angela Girtana
Let's freaking do it.
Amanda Leehancanto
Who wants to go first?
Angela Girtana
I think whoever had the sick idea to do this has to go first.
Shane Topp
All right, fine. So I wrote two. Let's read the second one I made.
Angela Girtana
Okay.
Amanda Leehancanto
The one that you hate less.
Shane Topp
I actually don't know if I hate it less. I have not Reread it, but it's shorter. This is a short one. This is a page long. So everyone, I put casting at the top.
Angela Girtana
Oh, my God, I can't wait.
Shane Topp
Let's see.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, good. You put casting at the top.
Shane Topp
Yeah.
Amanda Leehancanto
So are you gonna. There's no stage. Are you gonna read stage directions?
Shane Topp
I won't read stage directions for this. So this sketch.
Amanda Leehancanto
I can't wait. I love it.
Shane Topp
This sketch is called the Mime Family.
Amanda Leehancanto
Ooh. My name's Cynthia. That's my mom's name. Pretty cool.
Shane Topp
So, Amanda, you are Cynthia, mime. I will be Jeff, mime. Angela, you are Rebecca, mime.
Amanda Leehancanto
Okay, I feel like this might actually be good.
Shane Topp
I don't know.
Angela Girtana
My character's name is in all caps. Your guys characters, not all caps.
Shane Topp
Oh, yeah. Like I said, I wrote this out and I.
Amanda Leehancanto
Wait, that's how you spell your name. We made your name uppercase.
Angela Girtana
Yeah, on my birth certificate.
Amanda Leehancanto
All caps.
Shane Topp
Okay, so imagine this kind of like an intro to a sitcom with the title of it coming on screen.
Amanda Leehancanto
Laugh track.
Shane Topp
Okay, here we go. Establishing shot of a house vo. We now return to the Mime Family. Interior, dining room. Evening. The Mime family. Jeff, Mime 40s, Cynthia, Mime 40's and Rebecca, Mime 17, all dressed fully as mimes with mime makeup, sit silently at a dinner table with nothing on it, eating invisible food with invisible utensils and flatware. We sit on this for several long beats as they mime eating pasta, passing the salt, and Jeff mime pouring Cynthia mime more wine.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yes.
Shane Topp
Rebecca sits with her arms crossed. Another beat passes.
Angela Girtana
I signed up for clown college.
Shane Topp
What?
Amanda Leehancanto
Rebecca, you don't want me to be happy? We want you to find a good mime boy to marry.
Angela Girtana
Oh, and let him cheat on me just like you?
Amanda Leehancanto
Get out. Fine.
Shane Topp
Rebecca leaves and opens an invisible door and slams it behind her. Jeff and Cynthia go back to eating quietly. I'll go get another bottle of wine.
Amanda Leehancanto
Wait, I actually love.
Shane Topp
So the joke of this is that you think they're gonna sit silently the whole time and then it's just a shouting match.
Amanda Leehancanto
Or is that she went to clown college, she's going to fucking clown college.
Shane Topp
And we're like, not gonna be a mime.
Amanda Leehancanto
What about mime school? I love that. I'm like, I want you to find a good mime boy to marry. You guys would have a lot of communication in that marriage.
Angela Girtana
I am obsessed with the fact that, yeah, they just. They mime physical things. But, yeah, they talk. Cause they gotta talk.
Amanda Leehancanto
Jeff is A good husband.
Shane Topp
Yeah.
Amanda Leehancanto
I'll go get.
Shane Topp
I wrote it up. I think it had, like, two pages at one point, and then I just deleted a bunch of shit. I think it would be funniest if it just ends on, I signed up for Clown College. What? And then it just ends.
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah.
Shane Topp
Or they're just there. That's it.
Amanda Leehancanto
That's your second draft?
Shane Topp
That's the second draft that I cut even more.
Amanda Leehancanto
But I also, like, what? And then Jeff's just going, I'll go get another bottle of wine.
Angela Girtana
I'll get another bottle of wine.
Amanda Leehancanto
And he walks down the stairs, but there's no stairs.
Shane Topp
No stairs.
Amanda Leehancanto
Takes the canoe. He's just like.
Angela Girtana
But he comes. He walks down, like, fake stairs, but he has a real bottle of wine.
Shane Topp
I also think it'd be fun. Yeah, there's something with. If she was like, I'm setting up a boundary for myself. And then at the end, one of them gets up and, like, walks into it.
Angela Girtana
Yeah, that's funny.
Amanda Leehancanto
Sweet. There's so much we could do.
Shane Topp
Yeah, there's a lot you could do with.
Amanda Leehancanto
Let's pitch this.
Angela Girtana
It's funny to be like, mime family comes to Netflix. It's funny to be like, what is the mime family? And what are the rules and what are not? You know, like, it's fun that they talk. Like, just decide to break that rule.
Amanda Leehancanto
I like that they talk.
Shane Topp
I've never made any mime jokes, I don't think. Oh, wait, no, I have. I have done some mime jokes on, like, try not to laugh and stuff. But all of it comes back to this one moment in my life that is still one of the most surreal moments ever. And this is, like, 12 years ago. I walk into a Starbucks and there's a mime, a full mime, fully decked out makeup outfit. And he's pouring some sugar into his coffee at the coffee station, and he has a Bluetooth earpiece in. I have thought about that weekly since, where I'm like, you can't use that. You can't use that Bluetooth. You're not allowed to talk on the phone. You're a mime.
Angela Girtana
Holy shit.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah. Honestly.
Shane Topp
Yeah.
Amanda Leehancanto
I got my next shift in, like, five minutes.
Shane Topp
I didn't hear him talk, but I wanted to.
Amanda Leehancanto
That would have been great.
Shane Topp
I think about that all the time.
Amanda Leehancanto
You should find him a mime.
Shane Topp
Talking is just funny.
Angela Girtana
I know.
Shane Topp
That's what. That's.
Angela Girtana
What's so funny about this sketch is that they're just talking.
Shane Topp
It might be funnier if they literally. We don't do any miming. They just talk. And it's just. They're just dressed like mimes.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shane Topp
They're like, we're mimes. That doesn't mean we have. We're miming all the time. We're just mimes. Okay, Relax.
Angela Girtana
And they get into a huge fight, and they're just like. We're just so bad at communicating because it's like a teenager.
Amanda Leehancanto
Exactly.
Shane Topp
Well, thank you for reading.
Angela Girtana
Okay.
Shane Topp
I don't like it.
Angela Girtana
Off to a great start, so.
Amanda Leehancanto
Great. Who's next?
Shane Topp
I think. Okay, let's read yours.
Amanda Leehancanto
Okay.
Angela Girtana
Okay. Yeah, because.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, read mine.
Angela Girtana
Okay.
Amanda Leehancanto
Okay. Mine is called Valet Guy.
Angela Girtana
Oh, no.
Amanda Leehancanto
Okay.
Shane Topp
And you really worked hard on this.
Amanda Leehancanto
I worked really hard on this.
Shane Topp
And when was the last time? So you only reread it?
Amanda Leehancanto
I haven't read. I reread it last night again. Lying down, vertical. I saw what I thought was funny, but then I was like, okay. I was just repeated of like, what is this? I saw what I thought was funny. This actually kind of slightly happened to me, but this is way more unhinged.
Angela Girtana
Sounds like a groundling sketch.
Amanda Leehancanto
It's such a groundling sketch. I pitched it, like, early on in Groundlings. And I was like. Cause it is written. It's not premise based. Well, I guess it could be. It's written straight up from a character that I wanted to play.
Angela Girtana
Okay.
Shane Topp
Okay. So are you a ballet guy?
Amanda Leehancanto
I'm ballet guy.
Angela Girtana
Okay.
Amanda Leehancanto
And let's see. Shane, you're Janet. Okay. And Angela, you're Tracy. Okay. Cool names. Pretty cool. You guys are friends. All right, so I'll read the stage direction.
Shane Topp
Here we go.
Amanda Leehancanto
All right, Valet guy. A middle aged white woman, Tracy, is ordering an Uber on her phone. The valet guy comes up behind her, points to sign. This is valet. You can't park here. Tracy is looking at her phone, digging through her purse.
Angela Girtana
Oh, no. I'm waiting for Carlo in a Honda Fit. It's my Uber. I don't have a car here.
Amanda Leehancanto
Tracy is putting on lipstick in a little mirror while holding phone. Oh, I remember you from last week. You love Don Maggios. You're on a friend date again.
Angela Girtana
Oh, yeah. Hi, yes. My friend Janet is closing our tab. I need to wait for her here.
Amanda Leehancanto
Tracy puts lipstick away in purse, looking back at her phone. Yes. You didn't listen then and you aren't listening now. I am valet. You can't park here. No one ever listens to valet.
Angela Girtana
Right? Oh, yeah, you kept saying that, but I don't have a car? Do you mean stand here?
Amanda Leehancanto
Look at the words coming out of my mouth. You can't be in the vicinity of valet unless I am valeting your car. I am in control here.
Angela Girtana
Okay, well, let me wait for my friend and then our Uber will take us away.
Amanda Leehancanto
Friend Janet runs out of restaurant.
Shane Topp
I left a 15% tip because that chicken marsala burned my mouth.
Amanda Leehancanto
Trace. What the. Tracy rolls her eyes.
Angela Girtana
This valet guy says we can't stand here.
Amanda Leehancanto
So the sign clearly states valet only. I mean, girls, do you have a valet vest like me that you wake up to press at sunrise or. No. Slip grip shoes that you shine? Do you have a custom made utility belt to help you manage rule breakers like you? No. So don't mock me.
Shane Topp
Wow. Well, once our Uber comes, right, Tracy.
Angela Girtana
It says three minutes.
Amanda Leehancanto
Valet guy points to the sign. The sign clearly states the girls turn their back on him to look for Uber. He realizes they aren't listening. Now I have to be hard on you. Valet guy whips out tape measurer from his belt and prods the ladies to move out of his lot. You must be 12 inches from the lot. Move, move, move.
Shane Topp
This is ridiculous. It's not right. No. Let go back.
Angela Girtana
Crazy.
Amanda Leehancanto
Valet guy stops prodding. The girls run back to their spot, both visibly upset.
Shane Topp
Listen, Valet guy, we are human beings too. We deserve respect. Were not moving.
Amanda Leehancanto
Valet guy clips his tape measure back into his belt. All you sheep think you can do whatever you want in my lot. I don't come to your fat, boring insurance job and sit at your dirty desk and type all on your Windows 2000 or whatever monitor you use.
Shane Topp
Oh, my God.
Angela Girtana
How did you know I work for insurance?
Amanda Leehancanto
It's obvious. Wrinkly clothes, dirty shoes, disrespectful voice.
Shane Topp
So true.
Angela Girtana
Janet.
Shane Topp
Sorry. So sorry.
Angela Girtana
It's okay.
Amanda Leehancanto
I'm sorry too.
Angela Girtana
Okay, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.
Amanda Leehancanto
And thank you for leaving. Goodbye forever.
Shane Topp
Oh, my God. Okay, let's go.
Angela Girtana
Yes. Let's go. Yay.
Amanda Leehancanto
Bye. The girls just walk home. Valet guy shines his boots. Blackout. What the fuck? Yeah.
Shane Topp
Where did this come from?
Amanda Leehancanto
Valet guy.
Shane Topp
Did you see a valet guy and have this idea? Do you remember?
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, I do remember. You guys are doing exactly what my director told me.
Shane Topp
No, I actually see the joke of this.
Angela Girtana
I giggled the whole time.
Shane Topp
This was insane.
Amanda Leehancanto
So I. When I was in Groundlings, I sat a lot. I'm dying. Hold on. When I was in Groundlings, I sat a lot in my car to like, wait for the next thing I like. Going home was Too far away. Cause it was always in West Hollywood. So I was always, like, parked somewhere, like, doing rewrites or trying to sleep. Literally, I was in my car all the time. And I was parked in this weird lot with this weird mall that I thought was closed. And I was just, like, enjoying my time. And this fucking valet guy with a name, a vest, was like, you can't park here.
Shane Topp
Wake up.
Amanda Leehancanto
You can't park here. And I was like, okay, I'm just chilling. I'm not even like, I'll leave soon. He was like, do you see this sign? You cannot park here. You are in my vicinity. No one listens to me. He was having a day. He was having a day. And of course, I was so mad at him. And then I was like, that's my sketch. See, you gotta go out in the world. And. But this sketch, my director was like, we're not gonna do this. We're not. We're not gonna do this. She was also like, you can't play a dude unless you crush it. And I was like, okay, but I just love this. I pictured this whole guy. He was in, like, a full vest. He had, like, a whole utility belt. He measured things. And he was just like, you can't be here. Like, he was just so, so intense.
Angela Girtana
What is funny that. I think the funniest part about this is what we just laughed at, which is that no one listens to him again.
Amanda Leehancanto
Again. The girls were like, all right, fuck it. We're just gonna walk home. But I love the way I used to write girls. It was just like, two best friends putting on lipstick and looking at her phone. And I tipped 15%. Cause it's. Damn.
Shane Topp
Jennifer's line is incredible. That line is so funny. Cause it's such a good intro. Just like, I tipped 15% because that chicken marsala was burnt.
Angela Girtana
Burnt my mouth.
Shane Topp
Burnt my mouth. That was so funny.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, that's what I thought. Then I just got.
Shane Topp
I like the thank yous at the end, where they all go.
Angela Girtana
Yeah, towards the end.
Shane Topp
Thank you.
Angela Girtana
It felt like you were like, I'm done writing this sketch.
Amanda Leehancanto
Let's just take it the end.
Angela Girtana
Literally.
Amanda Leehancanto
Literally.
Shane Topp
I'm done. Thank you.
Amanda Leehancanto
Thank you. I had. Well, I originally wanted to write it where he, like, whips them. And then I was like, I can't do that, Amanda.
Shane Topp
Okay, okay, okay.
Angela Girtana
Amanda.
Amanda Leehancanto
No. He was never gonna whip them.
Shane Topp
Is it standard in Groundlings to write stage direction in the manner that you did, where you're like, tracy puts lipstick away in purse, looking back at her Phone Tracy is putting on lipstick.
Amanda Leehancanto
This was early on in my Groundlings career, so probably not. But you do write stage. You do write stage, but you write.
Angela Girtana
Looking back at her phone Tracy puts.
Amanda Leehancanto
You were writing like, I was basically directing the sketch as writing it, but.
Angela Girtana
You'Re writing it like a robot.
Amanda Leehancanto
You know why I wrote it like a robot Is because when you pitch, you perform at Cold Read.
Shane Topp
Oh. So you're kind of.
Amanda Leehancanto
You're literally like, Angela. Okay. Angela, you know, you're Janet, Shane, you're Tracy. So that they have never read this sketch before. They can read. Oh, I put the lipstick in my purse. Okay, whatever.
Angela Girtana
Okay, I got it.
Amanda Leehancanto
But I also don't know why I wrote it so robotic.
Shane Topp
It's holding bones. Like, Valet guy whips out tape measurer from.
Amanda Leehancanto
It's so that they can see without reading it before.
Shane Topp
Got it.
Amanda Leehancanto
But again, guys, this is not the right way. This is not the right way.
Angela Girtana
Still, though, I'll say both of you had a nugget of something that you found funny before you wrote it. Not leading me in a good place before we read mine, because I literally started with an empty page and just started typing.
Amanda Leehancanto
Good.
Shane Topp
That's good.
Amanda Leehancanto
There is no judgment on first drafts. There can be judgment on multiple drafts that I thought was good enough to pitch.
Angela Girtana
Yeah. Dinah, know what the edits you made on this were?
Amanda Leehancanto
Don't know. Do not know.
Shane Topp
I think there's. I think this character's great. Like, a guy who takes his job so seriously, and he's so upset that people aren't taking it seriously. Yeah. Yeah.
Angela Girtana
All right, listen.
Shane Topp
He's just being weird. Like, I think this character could keep coming back. Like, him as a window cleaner or him as.
Amanda Leehancanto
Nobody respects my job. Yeah.
Shane Topp
You guys. You guys can't be here. I'm cleaning this window. It's like we're holding a meeting. It's like no one listens to me.
Angela Girtana
But. And his. Honestly, his justification is really true. He's like, I don't go to your desk. Yeah, that really got me. I was like, you're right.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah. Well, that's what I felt like when this guy was, like, trying to kick me out. He's like, nobody listens to me. The sign is right there. And I was like, oh, God, I caught him on a day. Yeah, it's like, the last day. Cool. Well, that's valet guy. Maybe I'll bring him back. And I try not to laugh. And you guys. Only you guys will laugh at it.
Shane Topp
That would be really funny. That would be so funny. If you do valet guy and then.
Angela Girtana
You'Re gonna say the chicken masala line.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, I only said 50% because the chicken masala burnt my mouth. Burn my mouth.
Angela Girtana
That's so funny.
Amanda Leehancanto
Great.
Angela Girtana
I saw you on a friend date year before. What was that?
Amanda Leehancanto
I was like, don Maggio's.
Shane Topp
Don Maggio's what?
Amanda Leehancanto
That's a made up place.
Angela Girtana
Why was the history of us going on a friend date before? You don't listen.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, also, it's like, why was I upset that they went on a friend date? I know.
Angela Girtana
Why did they go multiple times and you thought it was such a thing?
Amanda Leehancanto
I know. I was like, friend date again. What's wrong with that? I literally. I'm so glad I didn't reread this over. Cause I probably would have wanted to edit it, but I didn't.
Shane Topp
No, I'm. I'm so glad. I think it's. I think it's great.
Amanda Leehancanto
Great.
Angela Girtana
Oh, God. Okay, do you want to do.
Shane Topp
Okay, do we want to do my second one and then close up?
Angela Girtana
Do you want yours to be the finale?
Shane Topp
No, no, I think yours should be the finale.
Amanda Leehancanto
I don't know. I feel like she's itching to go.
Angela Girtana
No, no, no, no.
Shane Topp
I'm.
Angela Girtana
I'm just saying I feel bad making mine the finale because it's going to be really bad.
Amanda Leehancanto
You're our guest.
Shane Topp
If you really want to read yours next week, Hannah, we could read my other one, which is like four pages long and weird.
Angela Girtana
Mine's four pages too, so. Yeah, whatever you feel.
Shane Topp
Whatever I feel?
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Shane Topp
Amanda, what do you think?
Amanda Leehancanto
Go with your gut.
Shane Topp
Why is it? Why is it.
Amanda Leehancanto
Why do I. I feel like we should read Angela's.
Shane Topp
Okay, let's read Angela's.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, God, I'm kind of dying to read it. And then I feel like we should close off with your sketch that you hate.
Shane Topp
So when was the last time you wrote a sketch?
Angela Girtana
A long time ago.
Shane Topp
Really?
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Shane Topp
Like. Like, long time.
Angela Girtana
No, I mean, I wrote a sketch. Like, recently I wrote a sketch. Like, it's been a while since I've typed out a sketch. That's what I'll say.
Amanda Leehancanto
I love it.
Shane Topp
You're getting some asmr?
Angela Girtana
Yeah, we're ripping it up.
Shane Topp
Ripping. This is long.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, I love when Angela just writes.
Shane Topp
All right, I cannot wait for this.
Amanda Leehancanto
Please read the title for us.
Angela Girtana
I'm gonna read the. Oh, it's actually five pages, so if you want to do yours, leave the longest.
Shane Topp
We're doing this now.
Angela Girtana
The title is called Angela's Dog Shit. Dog shit sketch. But the real title of this, it's just called Ham Cake.
Amanda Leehancanto
Can I.
Shane Topp
And you started writing this without thinking ham cake.
Angela Girtana
I'll tell you the process when you've. When you see the ham.
Amanda Leehancanto
I can't wait to hear the process of this.
Shane Topp
So how long did you sit in front of your computer before you started writing?
Angela Girtana
If we're lucky, I want to say 26 minutes is what I wrote. How long this took.
Shane Topp
How long it took to write it.
Angela Girtana
Yeah, the process. It was on my to do list all day yesterday.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah. And push to the last minute. I do.
Angela Girtana
I like, it was like I sat down at my kitchen table at 8pm and then I was like, I'm not gonna do this. Went to bed. No, like, started like, just like, I went to my bed and started just like. I was just, like, laying down. You know, like when you bring your laptop to bed. Cause you're like, I'll do work in bed.
Amanda Leehancanto
Never. And you're like, no.
Angela Girtana
And then I finally started, like, I was just, like, watching clips and just, like, scrolling on my laptop. I was on Reddit for a bit. It took a long time.
Amanda Leehancanto
Procrastination is part of the writer's blog.
Angela Girtana
Yeah. But then once I opened the document, I just started typing.
Shane Topp
I intended to write these things early yesterday.
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Shane Topp
I was going to eat the frog and get the thing out of the way. But I do the thing where I'm like, well, I should go to the gym first.
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Shane Topp
Knock that out. Then I come back, I'm like, well, I need to make coffee and I need to. Oh, I. You know, I need. I should clean the kitchen a little bit. And I procrastinate by being productive.
Angela Girtana
Yes.
Amanda Leehancanto
Me too.
Shane Topp
In all the other ways. Except the thing that I need.
Angela Girtana
Oh, I mopped yesterday. I mopped.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, I completely. That's what we do. Like, we just do everything. We're like, well, the house needs to be cleaned right now. I need to water my plants.
Angela Girtana
I mopped the closet.
Amanda Leehancanto
What?
Angela Girtana
Like, we have. We have like, a relatively large carpeted closet.
Shane Topp
Closet.
Angela Girtana
No, no, it's like a. It's like it's not carpeted and it's relatively large and there's a litter box in there. And I mopped it.
Amanda Leehancanto
See, this is why.
Shane Topp
When was the last time you mopped?
Angela Girtana
Yeah, I haven't mopped in a year. I usually swiffer, but I mopped yesterday.
Shane Topp
Because you needed to write.
Amanda Leehancanto
So, you know, this is why I think us writing this is like, hell fucking. Yeah, we did it.
Shane Topp
Yeah.
Amanda Leehancanto
You Know what I mean?
Angela Girtana
Great.
Amanda Leehancanto
Okay, let's do it.
Angela Girtana
With further ado. Ham cake. Okay, let me cast this.
Shane Topp
Sorry, did you say ham cake or ham kink?
Angela Girtana
Ham cake.
Shane Topp
Ham cake.
Angela Girtana
Ham cake is first smash cast. After hours.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, that's after hours.
Shane Topp
Ham cake.
Angela Girtana
Okay, I think I'm gonna do. I think I'm gonna do.
Amanda Leehancanto
Ooh, it's outside.
Angela Girtana
Yes. I think I'm gonna do Amanda, I think I'm gonna have you be Cecily Mom 3.
Amanda Leehancanto
I'm Cecily Mom 3. Love it.
Angela Girtana
And I think I'm gonna make Shane Mom 2.
Shane Topp
Okay.
Angela Girtana
And you're Mom 1. And I will be Mom 1.
Shane Topp
Okay, here we go.
Angela Girtana
Oh, my God.
Amanda Leehancanto
Okay.
Angela Girtana
Exterior park. Two moms sit at the park, both with strollers in front of them.
Shane Topp
Well, after Benji goes to bed, we usually watch an episode of Yellowstone or play wordle together.
Angela Girtana
Oh, that's fun. Yellowstone is me and Ron's favorite show, but we've never seen it.
Shane Topp
Oh, what do you mean?
Angela Girtana
Mom 3 walks into the park pulling a stroller of her own.
Amanda Leehancanto
I'm gonna pull this stroller.
Angela Girtana
Oh, no, it's Cecily, the weird mom.
Shane Topp
No, but what did you mean you don't watch Yellowstone, but it's your favorite show.
Angela Girtana
Hi, ladies. Which one am I?
Shane Topp
Your mom too, right?
Angela Girtana
Oh, yeah, yeah. Hi, Cecily.
Shane Topp
Hi. I don't think we've met. I'm Maeve.
Angela Girtana
Maeve just moved to town.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, my goodness. Welcome to Rockaster. I must bake you my. I must bake you my welcome ham cake.
Shane Topp
Ham cake.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yes, I make ham flavored cake. Ham cake Cake with the flavoring of ham.
Shane Topp
Ham cake.
Amanda Leehancanto
A dessert that's cake. But ham.
Angela Girtana
See, I told you she's weird.
Amanda Leehancanto
Anyway, what weather we are having today. I told my husband I had to take the little kiddo for a walk to the park. It's too beautiful out.
Shane Topp
I know. Not a cloud in the sky.
Angela Girtana
Except that one teeny tiny one over there by my house.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, how silly. Oh, shoot. My sis.
Angela Girtana
Oh, her iPad starts ringing in her purse.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, shoot. My sister is FaceTiming me on my iPad. Excuse me. It feels way too real for me. Excuse me for one second, ladies.
Angela Girtana
Leslie takes out a container of packaged sliced honey baked ham and uses it like an iPad to my sister on FaceTime.
Amanda Leehancanto
Sis, I gotta call you back. I took a walk to the park. Can I call you when I'm home? Wait, sis, I gotta call you back. I took a walk to the park. Can I call you when I'm back? Ham. I mean, home.
Shane Topp
That isn't an iPad.
Angela Girtana
I told you she's weird.
Amanda Leehancanto
All right. Love you.
Angela Girtana
Hangs up the ham. But it's an iPad. Back to the ladies.
Amanda Leehancanto
Sorry, girls. How rude of me.
Shane Topp
Oh, no, not rude. If anything, I'm just a little confused. How did you make a phone call on a.
Amanda Leehancanto
Have you guys been having sex with your husbands lately?
Angela Girtana
No.
Amanda Leehancanto
Me either.
Angela Girtana
What about you, Maeve?
Shane Topp
Um, well, Darren and I have sex about once every two weeks.
Angela Girtana
Cecily starts crying. Oh, no. Cecily.
Amanda Leehancanto
I'm so sorry to get emotional, ladies. Ray and I haven't made love in so long. I'm so worried.
Angela Girtana
Cecily grabs a slice of ham from her bag and wipes her tears.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, no.
Shane Topp
Deep. Do you need a tissue?
Amanda Leehancanto
I already have one.
Shane Topp
No, that's a piece of ham.
Amanda Leehancanto
What?
Shane Topp
That's a piece of ham.
Amanda Leehancanto
A what?
Shane Topp
A piece of ham.
Angela Girtana
Cecily finishes wiping her tears and shoves the ham in her mouth.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, my God. I really can't get a divorce. It's my worst nightmare.
Angela Girtana
Oh, honey, it's okay. You won't.
Amanda Leehancanto
Sometimes I think little Junior can hear us fighting, even though he's only two.
Angela Girtana
Junior, I'm gonna stop this for a second and tell you. You told me to write a dog shit sketch or you would quit. Smosh. I'm gonna keep going.
Amanda Leehancanto
This is the best script I've ever written.
Angela Girtana
Junior, Cecily's baby starts crying in the stroller.
Amanda Leehancanto
Wait, where are you? Oh, yeah, you're right here.
Angela Girtana
Oh. Page four. Junior, Cecily's baby starts crying in her stroller.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, Junior. It's okay. It's okay. Mommy's here.
Angela Girtana
To the ladies.
Amanda Leehancanto
He cries when he hears me cry.
Angela Girtana
Cecily picks up a block of ham from the stroller and rocks it like a baby.
Amanda Leehancanto
Who'S mom too.
Angela Girtana
Oh, sorry. It's gonna be okay, Cecily. Maybe go bring him to the pond over the other side of the park. It'll soothe both of you.
Amanda Leehancanto
That's a good idea, ladies. This has been so healing. It's so nice to meet you, Maeve. I'll see you around.
Angela Girtana
Cecily, holding the block of ham, rolls her stroller away from the ladies. Both ladies walk away. Both ladies watch her walk away. I told you, she's.
Shane Topp
Yeah, no, you. You told me she's weird. You didn't tell me she's.
Angela Girtana
Oh, yeah, I also forgot to tell you, she's ham. They both sit in silence for a while. A long beat, then wait.
Shane Topp
How can Yellowstone be you and your husband's favorite show, but you've never seen it before?
Angela Girtana
Oh, my God, no.
Shane Topp
Blackout. Angela, that's. I have to quit. Smosh. That was really funny.
Amanda Leehancanto
I actually think we need to perform this live.
Angela Girtana
This is the worst thing I've literally ever written in my life.
Amanda Leehancanto
This is the best sketch I've ever read. Do you know what I really wanted you to say? She's a ham.
Shane Topp
She's a ham.
Angela Girtana
That's what I thought I wrote. Oh, Oh. I meant to write she's a ham.
Amanda Leehancanto
You meant to write, she's a ham.
Shane Topp
She's ham.
Amanda Leehancanto
This sketch is brilliant.
Angela Girtana
It doesn't make any sense. Cause ish is the joke. It doesn't.
Shane Topp
What if she's ham and you look back and there's just a ham on the grass next to the stroller and you're like, wait, I'm crazy.
Amanda Leehancanto
And then it's like, did we finish? Like, did we fucking finish those brownies that we took?
Angela Girtana
Nothing makes sense. Wow. Nothing makes sense because first the game is like the ham cake. But then the game is props with just ham stuff. But then the game. It doesn't make any sense.
Amanda Leehancanto
I love that Junior's crying and then I pick it up and it's just him.
Shane Topp
Yeah, you can hear the baby cry. And then. But she pulls it up and it's ham. Like, everyone's insane.
Amanda Leehancanto
And then I say, I'll call you when I get ham. I mean, home, so I know what the fuck.
Shane Topp
Also, I just love when lines are so insane, where it's like, anyways, have you guys been having sex with your husband? And it just goes so intense.
Amanda Leehancanto
I also love that my husband's name is Ray. God, Cecily and Ray.
Angela Girtana
That's always my. With sketch too. Is when I rest the game or when I try to do the usual thing to make the unusual thing weirder. The time I tried to make it normal is when they talked about clouds or having sex with their husband. And they're like, the teeny cloud over.
Amanda Leehancanto
There, it's over my house. Wait, can you give us a 10 second synopsis of what the game is for anyone who doesn't know?
Angela Girtana
Oh, yeah, I kept saying that. I think I learned sketch in a different way that you did. I learned it at ucb where they were like, follow the funny thing. And it should be one thing. And I think since. Yeah. And they called that the game where it was like, oh. Which is hard to actually identify here because a sketch writer would. A sketch. Anybody would be like, there's not one game here because it's all over the place. Which is why I think my. Which is probably why I had writer's block, too. Because my understanding of what sketch is in the last, like, five years has exploded. Because, like, there's shows, like, I think you should leave and all these different things. It's, like, where it's like there's multiple weird things happening.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah.
Angela Girtana
But at ucb, they always said there should be one thing weird thing happening.
Amanda Leehancanto
And then keeps happening.
Angela Girtana
Yeah. And then it gets weirder and weirder and weirder, which is actually good for people like me, where I'm a little chaotic, where I like a lot of multiple.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, you like structure?
Angela Girtana
Well, no, if I'm naturally gonna.
Amanda Leehancanto
You need structure.
Angela Girtana
Yeah, I need structure. But I get. Lately, I've been seeing a lot of comedy where it's just balls to the walls. And I think.
Amanda Leehancanto
What?
Shane Topp
But I think it's also. And I know we love it, but I'm sure a lot of people watching haven't seen it. But there's a sketch show called I Think youk Should Leave on Netflix, and it's Tim Robinson, and it's the funniest sketches, like, ever. But he does do, like, he sets up, like, a joke that's happening in the sketch. But often what happens is halfway through the sketch, the joke just changes. It just becomes a completely new sketch. Halfway through, all the voices of reason in the sketch suddenly become the silly people, and the silly people become the voice of reason. And I think that's fun. Cause it's just a fun turn. There's rules that are established in things, but the point is to eventually break the rule in the right way.
Amanda Leehancanto
And. Surprise. I feel like the best part about sketch that I love is surprise. And something is grounded in reality. Everything can be nuts. Like mom one and mom two are grounded in reality. But something has to be, like, the character or whatever. But I also think breaking the rules is fine as long as there's something that's grounded in reality.
Shane Topp
Right?
Angela Girtana
Yeah, but they tell you they give you that structure for people who are actually a little, like. For, like, what you were talking about before, where it's like there's Sometimes there's people that are. Anyway.
Amanda Leehancanto
No.
Shane Topp
What?
Angela Girtana
No, no.
Amanda Leehancanto
People that are chaotic, that need structure.
Angela Girtana
Yeah. Yeah.
Shane Topp
I'm that way, too. I. My. My brain will just go all over the place. But then what ends up happening is I. I stick too hard to the rules, and I don't allow it to go all over the place.
Amanda Leehancanto
Me, too.
Angela Girtana
And that's why.
Shane Topp
And then it's kind of boring, and it kind of.
Angela Girtana
Yes. And I filter myself Too much. But that's why it was so fun to write a bad sketch is I just get to go.
Amanda Leehancanto
Nice. So I actually fucking love this.
Shane Topp
I really want to do this. We.
Amanda Leehancanto
We should do it live.
Angela Girtana
This is wild. He doesn't help. And it would fall so flat because it wouldn't make any fucking sense.
Amanda Leehancanto
But I love that the two moms. You're like, she's a little weird. I'm beyond weird.
Shane Topp
We could also just film this and put it on TikTok or something.
Amanda Leehancanto
Let's fucking do it. No.
Angela Girtana
And it would literally get negative views.
Shane Topp
No, I think it would do great. Also.
Amanda Leehancanto
Where am I from? Rochester.
Angela Girtana
I know. I made that up. Like, I'm not gonna look back and.
Amanda Leehancanto
Say Rockster, but I love that. That's what I love so much, is. Cause they're actually like, are you guys having sex with your husbands? That's the thing that's grounded in reality to me.
Shane Topp
But it's still so intense.
Amanda Leehancanto
Also, the Yellowstone is very real to me because I feel like there's so many people, like, love that show. Have you seen an episode? No, I have not.
Shane Topp
No, I've not watched it.
Amanda Leehancanto
Good people in it.
Shane Topp
I love that. I love that. That's still what bothers her the most out of everything. Okay. All right. So last sketch of the pod, I feel like my sketch. This is the one I wrote first. It's a general idea that I've had for years that I've wanted to do.
Angela Girtana
Ooh.
Shane Topp
I. I don't love the execution of this. I don't think it's that funny. But I want you guys to really go all out with your performances on this. I tried to. I tried to hinge it upon that. So it's called Escape Room.
Angela Girtana
Oh, my God.
Shane Topp
And, okay, I. I think I wrote a different iteration of this years ago, and I deleted it because I hated it. But you'll see.
Amanda Leehancanto
I love how big the font is. Thank you. Yeah, it's gigantic for us old people. You know when you look over at women or older guys on the plane and you look at them texting, and you're like, oh, my God. The only thing on their screen is the ant. And you're like, holy shit.
Angela Girtana
My grandma's phone is like that.
Amanda Leehancanto
It's huge. And it must take them, like, an hour to read like, I'm going to the store today. The an aunt.
Shane Topp
What do you think he's trying to say? I don't know. It says I on my entirely.
Amanda Leehancanto
And then if there's emoji, he's fucked. Like, the whole phone is just.
Angela Girtana
Oh.
Shane Topp
If he gets one of those. One of those paste where it's just a bunch of emojis, that'll take you two days. Okay. Okay. So this is called Escape Room. I will be Steve. I am the escape room worker.
Amanda Leehancanto
Can I just say how giddy I get when I get a sketch and I just read it for the first time? I fucking love it.
Shane Topp
It's very fun. Especially when you haven't. It's like, what's about to happen?
Amanda Leehancanto
Giddy. Okay.
Shane Topp
Amanda, you're gonna be Rachel.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yep.
Shane Topp
Angela, you're gonna be Nancy. Okay. Here we go.
Amanda Leehancanto
Okay.
Shane Topp
Interior, Escape room. Day. Steve, an escape room worker wearing a polo and khakis, leads Rachel and Nancy into a room that's designed like an old Alcatraz jail hall. Welcome, criminals, to Alcatraz island, where the two of you have been serving your life sentence here for several years now. But tonight is your chance to escape. The guards are out for the next hour and there are clues and puzzles hidden about to free you to the outside. Understood?
Amanda Leehancanto
Totally.
Angela Girtana
This is so awesome.
Shane Topp
Okay, I'll be locking you both into your cell here. The clock will begin as soon as I leave the room. And if you need a hint, just call out for one. Steve locks them behind the bars.
Amanda Leehancanto
You got it.
Angela Girtana
Sounds good.
Amanda Leehancanto
I'm so excited.
Shane Topp
Steve exits and shuts the door. Rachel immediately slides against the wall and sits on the ground, her face suddenly very seriously. Nancy slumps her arms around the bars. The two begin speaking with Brooklyn accents.
Angela Girtana
Five fucking years I've been locked up on this island. All because I. I get set up by the fucking Bobby Bombanino.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, oh, would you shut. Would you shut up already about Bobby Bombanino. He's either dead or halfway across the world with a different name. And you ain't never gonna know because we ain't never gonna get outta here.
Shane Topp
Steve's voice is heard through a speaker in the corner of the room. Uh, remember, the clock has started.
Angela Girtana
Bob was getting remarried. Still my Irishman. Raising my son.
Amanda Leehancanto
Hey, sounds like maybe he'll have a chance then.
Angela Girtana
What do you say?
Shane Topp
Rachel launches up and gets in Nancy's face.
Amanda Leehancanto
You heard me, you schmuck.
Angela Girtana
You better shut your mouth.
Amanda Leehancanto
You better shut your mouth or the gods are gonna find your cold, dead body in here tomorrow morning.
Shane Topp
Do you. Do you guys need a hint?
Amanda Leehancanto
I actually love this.
Angela Girtana
You think you're a tough guy. Real big tough guy who murdered multiple women and children.
Shane Topp
Why don't you check under the mattresses?
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, you're goddamn right. And I enjoyed it.
Shane Topp
The two back off from each other, but the tension remains.
Amanda Leehancanto
I belong here. I'm gonna spend the rest of my life here, just like you.
Shane Topp
Not if you look behind the poster on the wall.
Angela Girtana
Yeah. Yeah, you're right.
Shane Topp
Nancy pulls out a cigarette and a match lights it and takes a drag. Steve barges in. Nancy puts the cigarette out and hides it.
Amanda Leehancanto
Hey, you.
Shane Topp
You can't smoke in here.
Angela Girtana
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, nobody was doing nothing.
Shane Topp
I could literally see you doing it.
Angela Girtana
You gods. You gods are no different than us.
Shane Topp
What is going on?
Amanda Leehancanto
I'm gonna fucking kill you when I get the chance. What?
Angela Girtana
You fucking are.
Shane Topp
Okay, that's it. Both of you get out. Steve unlocks the cell door and pushes them out of the room. Exterior, street, continuous. Rachel and Nancy quickly shuffle out of the building. They look at one another and smile.
Amanda Leehancanto
We did it. Yeah, we did.
Shane Topp
They begin walking down the road as. Don't you forget about me, please.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, my God.
Angela Girtana
Wait, did you want us to read it like mobsters at the end?
Shane Topp
No, I think at the end. I think at the end it's more of a heart. It's a heartfelt moment where you both.
Angela Girtana
Like, are you still Brooklyn?
Shane Topp
You're no longer Brooklyn, but it's like the end of Con Air or like an escape movie where you both, like, look out at the sunrise and you're like, we did it.
Amanda Leehancanto
Okay, let's do it.
Angela Girtana
We did it.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah, we did. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Angela Girtana
Okay, I'm literally gonna force you to film this with us.
Amanda Leehancanto
Honestly, this is so fucking good.
Angela Girtana
This is so good.
Amanda Leehancanto
I also like my Brooklyn accent. I was like, I'm so Boston right now.
Angela Girtana
I was going in.
Shane Topp
That's okay. I just wanted it to be like, old school mobster.
Amanda Leehancanto
I love it.
Angela Girtana
This is so fucking funny because I just kept picturing you, Shane, being like, you guys need it.
Amanda Leehancanto
It's like, I murdered your family and I enjoyed it. Or you guys could look underneath the poster.
Shane Topp
You could look under the mattresses.
Amanda Leehancanto
Wait, Shane, this is so good.
Angela Girtana
This is so fucking good.
Amanda Leehancanto
I think that's how we have to write sketch now is just fucking write dog shit.
Angela Girtana
This is like. And this is so fucking funny.
Amanda Leehancanto
I don't know what you're talking about.
Angela Girtana
What about under the mattress? Shut the fuck up.
Amanda Leehancanto
You guys can't smoke in here. I'm gonna fucking kill you and your family.
Angela Girtana
I'm obsessed with this sketch. I love it so much.
Amanda Leehancanto
And then they get out and they're like, we did it. Yeah, it was great.
Shane Topp
It was so much fun.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah.
Angela Girtana
And then at the end, that song plays, but we just zoom in on you, and you're like.
Amanda Leehancanto
You're like, holy shit. Love it.
Shane Topp
Holy crap. They got out.
Amanda Leehancanto
It's like the ghost of. Because wasn't what's his name here the famous monster?
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Amanda Leehancanto
Al Capone was here.
Shane Topp
I've been on a tour there.
Amanda Leehancanto
You have?
Angela Girtana
I love Alcatraz. No, I really do.
Amanda Leehancanto
I have not. And I would love.
Shane Topp
It's pretty intense.
Angela Girtana
We should do it as a girls trip.
Amanda Leehancanto
Oh, God. Should we. We just get in there, like, pass me the cigarette. Bobby Benveno.
Shane Topp
Bobby Banana. I think it's Bobby Banano.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah. Also, I love raisin. My son is spelled as raisin. Like, the raisins.
Shane Topp
Raisin. Well, it's like. Like, raisin my son. Like, that's the point. It's like I was trying to do right.
Angela Girtana
Raisin my son.
Shane Topp
Like, tomorrow, raisin some Irishman. Raisin my son.
Amanda Leehancanto
Schmuck.
Shane Topp
That was. What was tough is I was like. I don't know if this. This terminology is accurate.
Amanda Leehancanto
I feel like we should do, like, a special where we do this, like, once every, like, four episodes. Because this is so fun.
Angela Girtana
Big table read, and then you pick, like, one every, like.
Amanda Leehancanto
And then we do them, and then we film it.
Angela Girtana
Because these are. This is so good. I also feel like I would pitch like, that you see us talk a little bit more before, and we're like, yay. So what are the rules?
Shane Topp
Yeah.
Angela Girtana
So then once it's starts, you're like. And you're just annoyed with, like, another friend group, like, asking you questions that you're gonna have to help.
Shane Topp
I had a. I was trying to think at the beginning of, like, you both walking in, being like, wow, I've never done an escape room before. This is gonna be so fun.
Angela Girtana
She's the bride. Yeah, I'm the bride.
Amanda Leehancanto
I'm getting married. I wanted to do something, like, crazy. And you're like, huh, Cool. Cool.
Shane Topp
Yeah.
Amanda Leehancanto
You hate us. And then we get so deep into character. I will fucking kill your fucking family.
Shane Topp
I. The only line that I felt good about was, I'm gonna kill you when I get the chance. That's very. I think you should leave inspired. Cause I feel like in every single one of his sketches, it culminates into him threatening to kill someone. It's always really funny.
Amanda Leehancanto
This makes me actually. This makes me so excited. Like, I Now, with this freedom, I'm like, oh, my God. I want to Write more.
Angela Girtana
I know. Yeah.
Shane Topp
Yeah. It is motivating.
Angela Girtana
And I did not think this would end this way. I thought we would just laugh at it.
Amanda Leehancanto
You knocked out your earring.
Angela Girtana
I did again. Anyway, I just. I did not think this would end this way. I thought we would just make fun of bad sketches.
Amanda Leehancanto
Nope. We're going to film it all.
Shane Topp
I need to see Valet Guy at least on. Try not to laugh. Yes. I genuinely really want to see Ham Cake.
Amanda Leehancanto
We have to.
Shane Topp
With no more edits done to it.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah.
Shane Topp
Ham Cake as it is.
Angela Girtana
Rockester.
Amanda Leehancanto
That tiny cloud. Tiny, tiny cloud over my house.
Shane Topp
I also think in my mind, if we filmed it, I think it's done very dramatically.
Angela Girtana
Oh, yeah.
Shane Topp
I think, like, it's very intense.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah.
Angela Girtana
Play it really seriously. Like. Anyway. Are you guys having sex with your husbands?
Amanda Leehancanto
It's such an HBO drama. Like, you're like, I don't know what's happening here.
Angela Girtana
Yeah.
Amanda Leehancanto
She's such a.
Shane Topp
We need. We need to reach out to Edie Falco, see if he's willing to. She's willing to be.
Angela Girtana
It's a two day rate because we'll do Escape Room after.
Amanda Leehancanto
We have to go to Alcatraz to do this. Can we film a cute little film in Alcatraz?
Angela Girtana
What a beautiful exercise. Thank you guys for this.
Amanda Leehancanto
Honestly, I think we have to do it again because this was.
Shane Topp
I would love to do this more.
Amanda Leehancanto
Yeah. Yeah.
Angela Girtana
This is really fun.
Amanda Leehancanto
We gotta have you back, Angela, so we can do it again.
Shane Topp
Let us know if you want to see this again because we can always write dog shit.
Amanda Leehancanto
Always.
Shane Topp
Yeah.
Angela Girtana
Dog shit. Ham cake.
Shane Topp
Angela, this was. This was so much fun.
Angela Girtana
Thank you so much for having great work.
Shane Topp
Great work. Love you.
Amanda Leehancanto
Love you.
Shane Topp
For Those watching on YouTube, comment ham cake down below. Let's get some love for ham cake. And this has been the smoshcast. So we will see you next Monday. But, Angela, we have one question for you. Amanda, take it away.
Amanda Leehancanto
Sausage or spaghetti?
Angela Girtana
Spaghetti till the day I die. Incorrect.
Shane Topp
All right, goodbye.
Amanda Leehancanto
Goodbye.
Smosh Mouth Episode #8: Reading Our Rejected Sketches w/ Angela Giarratana
Release Date: August 14, 2023
Hosts: Shayne Topp (Short), Amanda Leehancanto (Tall)
Guest: Angela Giarratana
In the eighth episode of Smosh Mouth, hosts Shayne Topp and Amanda Leehancanto welcome their guest, Angela Giarratana, to delve into a personal and creative exploration of writer’s block. The episode centers around overcoming creative hurdles by sharing and critiquing rejected sketches, providing listeners with an intimate look into the creative processes and struggles faced by content creators.
The episode begins with Shayne and Amanda introducing Angela. A humorous exchange ensues as they attempt to pronounce Angela’s last name correctly, ultimately settling on “Giratana.” Angela shares a lighthearted anecdote about her father’s pronunciation, setting a relaxed and friendly tone for the conversation.
Notable Quote:
Shayne Topp (00:10): “It also doesn't help that on. On. You don't have your actual last name.”
The discussion shifts to a common hurdle in the creative world: writer’s block. Shayne admits his long-standing struggle with motivation and perfectionism, attributing part of it to burnout from constant content creation at Smosh. Amanda shares her perspective, emphasizing the importance of external inspiration and the difficulty of initiating creative projects without fresh input.
Angela adds that the high-pressure environment at Smosh, where content often needs to be produced rapidly (e.g., live shows), exacerbates the creative block. The trio acknowledges that balancing content creation with personal creative projects is challenging but essential for sustaining creativity.
Notable Quote:
Shayne Topp (02:00): “I struggle with motivation and the creature creative world.”
The conversation evolves into strategies for overcoming writer’s block. Shayne praises Patrick, a long-time Smosh contributor, for his relentless creativity driven by passion rather than external validation. Angela highlights Patrick’s method of processing emotions through writing, likening it to journaling.
Amanda introduces the idea of collaborative exercises to break the isolation often associated with creative stasis. The hosts discuss the psychological barriers, such as fear of failure and the pressure of perfectionism, that hinder creative flow. Shayne shares insights from the book Radical Acceptance, emphasizing the need to embrace imperfections to move forward.
Notable Quotes:
Shayne Topp (06:24): “I want to enjoy the process, and I've struggled with that for my entire life.”
Angela Giarratana (15:15): “Human beings have to do things together.”
To tackle their creative blocks, Shayne, Amanda, and Angela embark on an exercise to write intentionally poor sketches, referred to humorously as “dog shit” sketches. The premise is to lower the stakes and remove judgment, allowing creativity to flow without the constraints of perfectionism.
Shayne shares his sketches titled "The Mime Family," a short, intentionally goofy sketch about a family of mimes. The trio reads and critiques the sketches, finding humor in their flaws and recognizing the value in producing low-stakes creative work.
Notable Quotes:
Amanda Leehancanto (08:44): “If it's not absolute dog shit, I'm quitting. Smosh.”
Shayne Topp (20:24): “This sketch is called the Mime Family.”
The group reads through their "Mime Family" sketches, discussing how they can enhance the humor and narrative despite the intentional flaws. They experiment with different lines and scenarios, such as incorporating unexpected dialogues and actions that break the mime’s silent facade.
Shayne expresses admiration for the unrestrained creativity that comes from not overthinking, while Amanda and Angela provide constructive feedback to refine the sketches. The exercise serves as a practical demonstration of how embracing imperfection can rekindle creative enthusiasm.
Notable Quotes:
Shayne Topp (22:43): “I think the joke of this is that you think they're gonna sit silently the whole time and then it's just a shouting match.”
Angela Giarratana (30:02): “You guys can't be here. I'm cleaning this window.”
Angela presents her rejected sketch titled "Ham Cake," a five-page piece that initially seemed chaotic but ultimately showcases her unique comedic style. The sketch features two moms in a park, engaging in absurd and exaggerated dialogues, blurring the lines between reality and surrealism.
The hosts read through the script, laughing at the unexpected twists and the blend of mundane and bizarre elements. Angela explains her process of writing under pressure and the significance of relinquishing control to foster creativity. The group praises the sketch’s improvisational feel, acknowledging its potential despite its rejection.
Notable Quotes:
Angela Giarratana (37:22): “Ham cake has the flavoring of ham.”
Shayne Topp (45:03): “Shane, this was so much fun.”
The episode concludes with the hosts reflecting on the benefits of sharing and critiquing poor sketches. They emphasize that such exercises can alleviate the fear of failure and encourage continuous creative output. The interaction fosters a sense of community and mutual support, essential for overcoming creative blocks.
Shayne, Amanda, and Angela express enthusiasm for future collaborative projects, including potentially performing the sketches live or filming them for social media platforms like TikTok. The episode ends on a high note, celebrating their collective effort and newfound motivation.
Notable Quotes:
Amanda Leehancanto (58:20): “This is a two day rate because we'll do Escape Room after.”
Angela Giarratana (60:46): “This is like. And this is so fucking funny.”
Smosh Mouth Episode #8 serves as an engaging exploration of writer’s block and the creative processes behind sketch comedy. Through candid discussions and practical exercises, Shayne, Amanda, and Angela demonstrate the importance of collaboration, embracing imperfection, and maintaining a playful attitude towards creativity. The episode not only entertains but also offers valuable insights for creatives struggling with similar challenges.
Final Takeaway:
By lowering the barriers of perfectionism and fostering a supportive environment, creators can overcome writer’s block and reignite their creative passions.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps: