#85 - Let Us Cook w/ Mythical Kitchen

Summary

Podcast Summary: Smosh Mouth Episode #85 - Let Us Cook w/ Mythical Kitchen

Release Date: March 17, 2025
Hosts: Shayne Topp (Shayne), Amanda Lehan-Canto (Amanda), and rotating guests
Featured Guests: Josh and Trevor from Mythical Kitchen

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1. Introduction of Guests

The episode kicks off with Shayne and Amanda warmly welcoming Josh and Trevor from Mythical Kitchen. They express excitement about finally having them on the show after a long hiatus.

• Amanda [00:32]: "And we have two very special guests with us today. Josh and Trevor from Mythical Kitchen. Hi."
• Trevor [00:50]: "It's so good to be back. It's been so long. You know, it's always fun when I get to come hang out."

2. Getting to Know Each Other: Speed Dating Segment

To break the ice, the hosts engage Josh and Trevor in a quick "speed date" to learn more about their backgrounds, fears, and personal lives.

• Shayne [02:07]: "This is every conversation with Joe."
• Josh [02:03]: "Biggest fear? Disappointing people."
• Amanda [01:34]: "Drowning and tight spaces."

3. Experiences with Cooking and Past Projects

Josh reminisces about his previous collaborations with Smosh, including the "Funeral Roast" and the "Never Aired My Ex's Special," highlighting the challenges and humorous moments during filming.

• Josh [03:05]: "And that has been so long since you've been here at Smosh, even though you've been on, like, several shows."
• Josh [05:50]: "How do you experience lemonade? Does it taste nice to you?"

4. Culinary Challenges and Personal Health

The conversation shifts to the intense cooking shoots at Mythical Kitchen, where excessive caffeine consumption led Josh to temporarily lose his vision and experience a severely burned tongue from malic acid.

• Josh [05:37]: "But I did a shoot with Santi from Food Theorists where it was, like, testing different ways to neutralize sour."
• Amanda [06:02]: "Why did you do that?"

5. Discussion on Nutritional Habits Post-Shoot

After demanding shoot days, Trevor and Josh share their less healthy eating habits, resorting to junk food and sugary snacks to cope with the stress and exhaustion.

• Josh [08:21]: "I wasn't cooking. Yeah, you know, he was eating like a handful of goldfish."
• Trevor [08:38]: "And we're not making healthy stuff in the Mythical Kitchen."

6. Favorite and Least Favorite Foods

The hosts delve into a discussion about peculiar food experiences, including eating bugs and the cultural perceptions of different food textures like natto and malic acid-infused dishes.

• Shayne [10:31]: "Have you seen Yellowjackets?"
• Josh [12:25]: "The flavor is great. It's got this like very cheesy fermentation to it."

7. Relationship Dynamics and Engagement Stories

Trevor shares his excitement and challenges surrounding his engagement, emphasizing the societal pressures and personal feelings associated with being labeled as "fiancé."

• Trevor [28:56]: "It's so awesome just to be able to call her my fiance."
• Amanda [30:53]: "Do you think they're asking you that?"

8. Upcoming Events: Creator Clash and Mythical Kitchen Live

Trevor discusses his participation in Creator Clash, a YouTuber boxing event, detailing the physical and emotional toll of training and sparring for charity.

• Trevor [39:16]: "I'm in it, dude. It's exhausting."
• Josh [50:18]: "And I love that."

Additionally, Josh and the team announce an upcoming live show, "Survive, the Mythical Kitchen Live," featuring cooking competitions with physical challenges inspired by shows like Squid Game and Survivor.

• Josh [49:00]: "It's gonna be a good time."
• Trevor [52:12]: "Like, we're gonna hire, like, a taquero for it."

9. Personal Growth Through Cooking and Relationships

The conversation highlights how cooking and wedding planning have impacted their personal relationships and mental well-being, emphasizing the importance of compromise and support.

• Josh [62:41]: "I was happy to just go along with the ride."
• Amanda [63:33]: "So why did I just let them do that?"

10. Interactive Segment: Would You Rather

The hosts conclude with a fun interactive segment, "Would You Rather," where they pose culinary-related dilemmas to each other, revealing personal preferences and humorous insights.

• Shayne [71:43]: "Would you rather have your secret recipe leaked or never make your signature dish ever again?"
• Josh [71:49]: "Leak all my secret recipes, man. There's no secrets online anymore."

11. Closing Announcements and Final Remarks

Wrapping up the episode, Shayne and Amanda encourage listeners to attend the upcoming live show and tease future podcast features, including bingo cards to make the show more interactive.

• Amanda [68:25]: "We're not allowed to know what's on the cards."
• Josh [76:25]: "And so much of relationships is about finding that compromise."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Amanda [02:03]: "Biggest fear? Disappointing people."
• Josh [05:37]: "But I did a shoot with Santi from Food Theorists where it was, like, testing different ways to neutralize sour."
• Trevor [28:56]: "It's so awesome just to be able to call her my fiance."
• Josh [12:25]: "The flavor is great. It's got this like very cheesy fermentation to it."
• Amanda [68:25]: "We're not allowed to know what's on the cards."

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This episode of Smosh Mouth provides an in-depth look into the lives of Josh and Trevor from Mythical Kitchen, blending humor with personal anecdotes about cooking, relationships, and the pressures of content creation. The hosts create an engaging and relatable environment, making it a must-listen for fans and newcomers alike.

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[Shane]

Void where prohibited by law 21 + terms and conditions apply. Welcome to Smosh Mouth. I'm Shane.

[Amanda]

And I'm Amanda. And we have two very special guests with us today. Josh and Trevor from Mythical Kitchen. Hi.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

And also from Smosh.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Shane]

No, today Trevor is from the Mythical Kitchen.

[Amanda]

No, you're not from Smosh today. You don't remember this place. You're at Mythical Kitchen.

[Trevor]

It's so good to be back. It's been so long. You know, it's always fun when I get to come hang out.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Trevor]

Which I never get to do.

[Josh]

It has been kind of long for me. Hi. How are you doing?

[Amanda]

Good.

[Josh]

I walked in today and somebody goes, have you been here before? And I was like, it's been so long. I've been neglecting all of my friends. So I'm sorry that dad just left to get cigarettes. But he's back now.

[Amanda]

Well, dad, we never met, so. You really were such a great dad. They were like, he's coming back. And I was like, well, I never met him.

[Josh]

So I feel like we. Since we've never worked together before, we need to do like a little, like, speed date and get to know each other and. Where'd you grow up?

[Amanda]

Let's do it.

[Shane]

Okay. Yeah. Okay, great.

[Josh]

Go for it. Where'd you grow up?

[Amanda]

Massachusetts.

[Josh]

What part? What part?

[Amanda]

Easton, Massachusetts.

[Josh]

Never been. How many siblings do you have?

[Amanda]

Three sisters.

[Josh]

What's your biggest fear?

[Amanda]

Drowning and tight spaces.

[Josh]

Is it the metaphor of drowning or, like the actual physicality of it?

[Amanda]

No, physicality of it.

[Josh]

Do you sometimes feel like you're drowning in your own life?

[Amanda]

Sometimes, yeah.

[Josh]

And that makes you feel stressed and overwhelmed?

[Shane]

This is every conversation with Joe.

[Amanda]

How many? Wait, where were you born?

[Josh]

I was born in Columbia, Maryland. Moved to Kansas City. I was 4 and then ended up in Orange County, California, where I stayed put mostly.

[Amanda]

How many siblings?

[Josh]

One sibling. Older brother.

[Amanda]

Okay. What's your biggest fear?

[Josh]

Biggest fear? Disappointing people.

[Amanda]

That's real. I mean, you're a chef.

[Josh]

It's true. And you will constantly disappoint people all the time while cooking. Yeah.

[Trevor]

You've often disappointed me.

[Josh]

I know, and I'm sorry.

[Amanda]

Have you told. Are you comfortable telling him that. That you're disappointed, or you just, like, hold it in and then tell him later?

[Trevor]

I hold it in and never tell him. Actually, this is the first time I've.

[Josh]

Told him it's gonna come.

[Amanda]

Is that real?

[Josh]

Yeah, it comes out in short verse only when we're on camera, which then I'm like, oh, God, was that real or was it performance?

[Amanda]

That's really hard. Cause, like, how can you guys have a close relationship if you don't tell him? And we'll get into that.

[Shane]

What the hell?

[Amanda]

Hi, Shane.

[Shane]

How do you guys feel after that? Do you feel good?

[Amanda]

I actually feel really good.

[Josh]

Like, I know her so much better now.

[Amanda]

Yeah, you know me really well.

[Shane]

Thank you. Great. Well, Josh. Yeah. It's the first time you've been on this podcast, and it has been a long time since you've been here at Smosh, even though you've been on, like, several shows.

[Josh]

I have. The funeral roast. That was a big highlight.

[Shane]

That's right.

[Josh]

Arasha, her performance. That was maybe the funniest thing I've ever seen.

[Shane]

Yep.

[Amanda]

She was the coroner.

[Josh]

Yes. Yeah.

[Amanda]

Love that character.

[Josh]

Something about me dying with a condom on, or as. Or as chefs call it, making a marinade. And that just killed me. And then. And then we shot the Never aired My Ex's special where I came in and I had thrown out my back, and I said, I cannot physically sit down. Can we do this standing? And I was in so much pain trying to film. And so that was special. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I couldn't tell if Trevor was doing my actual ex.

[Trevor]

I think there was a weird line there. I was in a gray area in.

[Josh]

A weird emotional space.

[Trevor]

It was like Patrick and Jeremy were like, oh, so, like, yeah, you'll be kind of like Josh's type. But then, like, it really did just kind of end up being your ex.

[Josh]

And I was like, what are you doing to me?

[Amanda]

You did a whole roast on your ex or you.

[Trevor]

No, it was the interviewing.

[Shane]

It was the interviewing exes. But this is right before we, like, Ian Anthony, debuted their first sketch.

[Amanda]

That feels like a century ago when we did exes.

[Shane]

It was a century ago.

[Amanda]

So long ago.

[Josh]

Maybe it was the last time I filmed here.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Josh]

I know.

[Shane]

Crazy.

[Amanda]

Wait, that was also.

[Shane]

You were here for the Eat it or Eat it, where we discovered I have grave mouth.

[Amanda]

Yes. That was you. I heard about this.

[Shane]

That was you. And it was kind of like you who solidified it. Because, like, I was eating this burger that was covered in malic acid and not reacting, but then you took a bite and then literally couldn't, like, handle it for a second.

[Josh]

My entire mouth felt like it was on fire.

[Shane]

And we knew that if you couldn't handle it, then something was wrong. Wait.

[Amanda]

Malic acid is horrible.

[Shane]

It's sour. Yeah, extremely sour.

[Amanda]

Every time I went on eat or eat it, I got malic acid.

[Shane]

Well, they started putting it in every episode because I didn't react to it. And actually, they were putting it in there to get reactions from other people, because anytime I didn't eat it, people would freak out. But I kept somehow landing on the malic acid things and not being affected by it at all for some reason.

[Josh]

I have more questions about that. How do you experience lemonade? Does it taste nice to you?

[Shane]

Yeah, it tastes great, and I taste like the tart sourness, but it's just never. It never does the thing where I have to pucker up or anything. Like, it's fine. I used to just pop warheads as a kid.

[Trevor]

That's crazy.

[Amanda]

Absolutely not. Like, blue raspberry warheads.

[Shane]

Sour.

[Amanda]

Gross.

[Shane]

Loved them. So maybe I just, like, damaged my mouth.

[Josh]

I did a. I'd always heard growing up that warheads would, like, cause a hole to burn in your tongue. That was, like, a weird.

[Amanda]

That's what I heard, too.

[Josh]

Yeah, that was like.

[Shane]

I guess so.

[Josh]

But I did a shoot with Santi from Food Theorists where it was, like, testing different ways to neutralize sour. And we just ate so much malic acid that day that it did bore a hole in my tongue. I couldn't eat for, like, three days.

[Trevor]

It was brutal.

[Amanda]

Wait, an actual physical hole?

[Josh]

Not, like, all the way through, but, like, you could see the physical indent. It just started eating in it. Like the scene in Fight Club with the lie on the head. It was like that on my tongue. Yeah, it was really brutal.

[Amanda]

Why did you do that?

[Josh]

Oh, Internet clout. A fear of disappointing people. As we've talked about Amanda.

[Amanda]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Shane]

You go hard. Cause just before we started recording, you were talking about the time that you drank so much caffeine, you went blind.

[Amanda]

So I missed that conversation.

[Trevor]

Josh has a really healthy relationship with food.

[Josh]

No, no, no. Yeah, that was actually. That was a long shoot day in mythical kitchen, and I'd gotten acute caffeine intoxication multiple times before, probably twice before.

[Shane]

Okay, so it's no big deal.

[Josh]

Well, this was the first time that I lost vision for probably five minutes and I got really scared. I was drinking cold brew concentrate straight out of the bottle.

[Shane]

The jug.

[Josh]

The jug, yeah. And everybody warned me, hey, don't do that. You're making us uncomfortable. All that. Part of being a chef is being able to measure freehand.

[Trevor]

Yeah, you can see that.

[Josh]

You know what 2 tablespoons of soy sauce looks like. I was like, surely I know how much I'm consuming here. And then everything went white and I.

[Amanda]

Couldn'T stand it for five minutes.

[Trevor]

It was also like in this weird time where it was like post, but we're kind of coming out of it. But it was still like limited people on set and the vibes were just insane. And I mean, we were just getting like, like bags full of bang on the company card, just stocking them in the fridge. And it was just. There was always so much caffeine readily available and we. Yeah, we weren't really concerned with the consequences. It was like coming in at 8am for like what was gonna be a 10 hour, 11 hour shoot day and just breakfast bang, lunch bang, and then halfway shoot.

[Shane]

So many times like a breakfast bang.

[Josh]

You know, there was so much anxiety during those shoots. And that' specific error because you would just get. Somebody would get a slack and just go, everybody out, everybody out. When like a positive test came back.

[Amanda]

I'm sure y'all dealt with the same thing.

[Josh]

And so it was already like, okay, how fast can we cook until somebody tests positive.

[Trevor]

Yeah, we were doing like four episodes in a day. Like, I feel like the max number of videos we'll do like cooking videos we'll do in a day is like two now.

[Josh]

Yeah. Cause we now run it a lot more professionally and no, we were just.

[Trevor]

We were cranking through those.

[Amanda]

And when you guys got home, did you cook or did you like die and fall apart and order yourself food?

[Josh]

In that era?

[Trevor]

I didn't.

[Josh]

I wasn't cooking. Yeah, you know, he was eating like a handful of goldfish. Every day we would try and nutrients during the day.

[Amanda]

Do you eat nutrients?

[Trevor]

Well, no. I mean, it's tough when you're going in. Especially like in the four videos a day. You're eating food for four videos. And so it's like you go and you just gorge yourself. And we're not making healthy stuff in the mythical kitchen. So I'm just going and having the most diabolical food.

[Josh]

Doritos calzone, Korean corn dog.

[Trevor]

And then I'm getting home and I'm like, I don't Even wanna look at food. I just wanna drink Diet Coke and play video games and that's just.

[Amanda]

Oh, yeah, your body, your little body.

[Trevor]

It was pretty bad. Yeah, it was not healthy.

[Amanda]

Yeah. When you guys are cooking, are you tasting everything? Are you tasting it or are you actually eating it and consuming it?

[Josh]

So there's the initial taste on camera. And then this happened yesterday. We made a ton of pizzas in a shoot. And so you're like tasting everything while you're cooking. You're eating on camera and explaining things, but then the camera shut off and there's just like three whole pizzas and two backups left over. And you're sort of like stressed from the shoot day in general. So you're just in the car and so you just start going to town and the entire crew just crowds around the pizza. I'm pouring bottles of like ranch and Thousand island and putting hot sauce in it and just putting sandwiching the pizzas together. And then you get home and you just like, you have post shoot clarity and you're just like, I'm so disgusting. What's happening?

[Trevor]

It's also so funny because when we're shooting cooking videos, it's like the food is a prop. I mean, imagine you're like doing a bit. It's like the crutch, it's like you have this thing in your hand and it's a, it's a thing to be funny with. And so when I'm on camera, it's like I'm not even eating the food or like realizing it's like I'm using it as, as a prop, as a crutch to do funny or whatever. So it's like, it's funny if I just start let, you know, crying and shoving my mouth full of pizza and I'm not even thinking about the fact that I'm just like, oh, shoving my mouth full of pieces. And then I get done, I'm like, oh, why did I do that?

[Amanda]

Like Jekyll and Hyde. You get home and you're just like, who was that?

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Shane]

After eating almost everything on the planet, is there anything at this stage that you're like, oh, man, I will not touch that. Like that, personally, is just too much for my mouth. Or I mean, because I feel like.

[Josh]

Yeah, there's only, there's only one barrier left to bugs. No bugs. Oh, we've eaten bugs.

[Shane]

Literally. Josh made me eat an entire tarantula.

[Josh]

That was.

[Shane]

An entire tarantula. I did not know it was coming. You lifted the thing and there was two Full tarantula.

[Josh]

Not like live. They were dead.

[Amanda]

No, but that's.

[Shane]

But they had everything.

[Amanda]

No, no, no.

[Josh]

And I eat bugs for fun. Like chapulines. Chapulines are really great. You go to, like, a Mexican restaurant. They got the deep fried little crickets with the chili salt.

[Shane]

Dinner with you. And we did have bugs. There was something.

[Josh]

It was the ants, right? Yeah. Chikatana ants. Cheekahana ants. And we had worms. We had worms, too.

[Shane]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh]

We had Sal de Guisano. We had agave worms. So bugs are not there now. Have you seen Yellowjackets?

[Amanda]

I stopped, actually, after season one. What a great transition. After season one, I stopped because actually it made me physically ill. And I didn't like the feeling of, like, the kind of the torture. I was like, well, what's happening? Who's a real villain in this movie?

[Shane]

You got some answers?

[Amanda]

Yeah, I need some answers. I enjoyed all the older actors. Like, I was Christina Ricci. How cool. And like, Hilary Swank is on it now. I'm like, nice.

[Shane]

What?

[Josh]

Hilary Swank's in Yellowjackets now?

[Amanda]

Yeah. Are you watching it?

[Josh]

No. Season three out.

[Trevor]

I thought you said you stopped watching.

[Amanda]

I did stop watching. My sister. My sister's obsessed with yellow jackets and she keeps going. Don't watch it. But I'm obsessed.

[Josh]

Love it. Juliette Lewis is fantastic. Nicole Maines is fantastic.

[Amanda]

Juliet Lewis. Incredible. Incredible.

[Trevor]

It was such a hard show to come back and, like, just start into season three. I'm like, those first two seasons, so much is going on and so much that you have no clue what's going on. So then you just jump back in and you're like, I didn't know what was going on when I was watching it. And now it's been a year and a half since I've seen an episode and I really don't know what's happening.

[Josh]

So I watched season one when I had Covid and I had 104 fever for, like, three straight days. And I watched all of Yellowjackets while. While having 104 fever. Yes. It was actually one of the best TV viewing experiences of my life.

[Amanda]

Holy shit. Yeah.

[Josh]

I was talking about human meat. No, that's the only thing now. Wouldn't eat. Would not eat meat.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Shane]

That's a moral thing.

[Josh]

Yeah. They eat Ella Purnell.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Ella Purnell.

[Josh]

Ella Purnell.

[Shane]

She's the frozen meat.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane]

But that's. You're talking about a moral thing. I'm talking about, like, is there a thing that you want to be honest.

[Trevor]

I thought that you were talking about semen.

[Josh]

Oh, no, I've eaten, like, cod semen. You've had cod sperm before?

[Trevor]

No, I haven't had.

[Shane]

Of course you have cod semen.

[Amanda]

Actually, I.

[Josh]

You should try. It's semen. It's called shirako. It's a really expensive delicacy. It tastes a lot like uni. It's got this kind of like, iodine y milky.

[Amanda]

I love uni.

[Josh]

You might like uni.

[Trevor]

I don't really like.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Josh]

If a food exists, it's because somebody finds it pleasant to eat, Right?

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Josh]

I think humans are generally so much more alike than they are different. And so, like, if somebody from one culture can like something, I think you can like it too, even if it's not to your taste. So I don't think there's any food.

[Amanda]

I'd be open to it.

[Shane]

Yeah, I think you would try anything, but I feel like you've tried almost everything. So are there foods that it's like, whoo, I never again. Because I believe I'm aware that Rhett and Link, the. The food that they struggled with the most was. Is it like the pig blood taco or something?

[Josh]

Oh, that's just, like, delicious. Like, that's really good.

[Shane]

They just didn't like it.

[Josh]

Well, you shouldn't just put it in an Ortega standing stuffed taco shell, but there's like a Vietnamese dish called bun ba hue. Just this, like, spicy pork trotter soup with, like, a ton of fragrant herbs. And you put the blood cube in that, and that's really delicious because, like, the more intense flavors you have, the more they can balance against other intensity.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And so, like, everything in context. Right.

[Shane]

Of course. Of course. I know that. That's something that got pointed out forever ago on Smosh. We used to do a lot more like, punishment style things.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And it was. What's the Australian spread for toast?

[Josh]

Vegemite.

[Shane]

Vegemite. But whenever we had vegemite, we would have, like, a huge heaping spoonful of it.

[Josh]

Exactly.

[Shane]

And of course it's gross like that. And we'd have tons of comments being like, hey, man, don't eat it that way. Like, it's gross because of the way you're eating. Drink a cup of mayonnaise. Like, of course it's gross in that.

[Amanda]

That'll be hard to drink.

[Shane]

Yeah. Except Damien might.

[Amanda]

Does he love mayo that much?

[Shane]

Yeah, he loves mayo.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Shane]

Next time he's on, we'll ask him. But. But yeah, we get those. That type of context. And then whenever I try foods and I'm like, this is gross. I do think about how someone does love it, and I kind of want to try to, like, figure out how to love it. I'm like, is there a way different cultures?

[Amanda]

Like, I feel like I would love to go to a different culture and have it explained to me and, like, the history of it. And then I feel like I could really love it where it's like, hey, you know, we're in America. Here's this. Here's this thing that you should try from Vietnam. It's like, wait a second.

[Shane]

I know. I think. I think environment definitely would help. I. The food that I struggle with, that I. I want to like, is natto.

[Josh]

Natto is. Same here.

[Trevor]

Wait, Natto.

[Shane]

Fermented soybeans.

[Josh]

It's fermented soybeans, but the way that it ferments, the soybeans are whole, but there's this, like, almost cobwebby stickiness around it. It's a little bit. So when you whip it up with chopsticks, it gets really, really stringy and slimy. But it's interesting the way that we think about, like, crispy.

[Shane]

Right.

[Josh]

We view that as a good adjective for food, and we view slimy as bad, gross. But that's only in, like, you know, a very American English context. So there's. In a lot of other cultures, like, crispiness is kind of weird. Like, why would you. It's like shattering. It's hurting your teeth. It's whatever. And so, like, natto, that texture is a lot more common in Japan. Also in a lot of Chinese cooking, there was this Nigerian whole goat barbecue are out in Van Nuys.

[Trevor]

Wow.

[Josh]

And I remember in an interview, he was talking about making this, like, traditional Nigerian whole goat barbecue. And Americans would come and they'd eat it and they'd go, oh, this meat's tough. And the Nigerians that came and eat it and went, this is perfect. So then he's like, cool, I can cook this lower, slower, longer. Americans came and went, this meat's so tender. That's great. Nigerians came and was like, this isn't meat. It's falling apart in my mouth. You're supposed to chew meat. What is this? And so, like, you know, what we view as objectively good in food is not how every other culture would view it.

[Shane]

That's so interesting. Yeah.

[Amanda]

I think I've had natto before, actually, as you're talking about it. I think I was in Seattle and we were in this really amazing restaurant I remember it being very slimy and I was a little taken aback by it just because. You're exactly right. Like in my culture, slimy. It's like slimy. It feels like it's alive, but it was delicious.

[Josh]

The flavor is great. It's got this like very like almost cheesy fermentation to it. And I've tried natto every which way. I've tried it drunk, I've tried it sober. I've tried it on sashimi. Like, I'm the same thing with you.

[Shane]

I think I need to be drunk when I try new things. That's how I sneak it past my brain. Yeah. It's so fun when you try something and you don't like it and somehow you find a way to view it differently. Cause that's me with like some types of cheeses, like blue cheese I used to not be able to touch. I was like, this is disgusting. But at this stage, I don't know what happened. Eventually I had it in the right context or like paired with the right thing. And I was like, okay, I understand it a little bit more. And that's such a fun experience to like, learn to like something.

[Amanda]

Also pairing it with something brings out all the different flavors of it. I was kind of like obsessed with food pairing. I don't know if I'm like that good at it at all, but like simple things like meat and cheeses or like dips and cheeses, and I'm just like, what's the. I remember I went wine tasting one time, this woman, she went over her whole explanation of pairing. And I. And I was right there with her. I was like three glasses of wine deep. I was like, yeah, I get that. And I left being like, what did she say? She was like, salty sweet. What did she say?

[Trevor]

It's like the scene in Ratatouille where he like gives his garbage eating friend the brother. Just like the grape and the cheese. And there's like this scene with the flashing colors and it's so beautiful.

[Shane]

Yeah. For me it was honey with blue cheese that finally made it work.

[Amanda]

So that makes sense. It's like pairing is everything. You guys have the answers, right?

[Josh]

Yeah, but I mean, I think that's like one so much when you're talking about the person at the winery, like telling you all these stories, that's ultimately what it is. It's storytelling. Right. Like, wine is the best example of that. It is literally just rotten grape juice. So all these notes of like nectarine and honeydew rind. And that's all just something people are making up based on what this rotten grape juice kind of smells like to them. I remember talking to my brother, who was like a certified sommelier, and he worked for a little bit in the wine industry, and he was saying, there's a tasting note, or actually it's. What do they call it? Like, an olfactory. An olfactory note. A violet. Like, this wine smells like violets. Violets are an odorless flower. Violets don't smell like anything funny.

[Amanda]

But your mind makes it up.

[Josh]

Yeah. And you would say, oh, beautiful violet aroma. Check that out. And then you go, oh, yeah, I smell violets. But you're sort of paying for that storytelling, that human connection, the connection to history, because wine is thousands of years old. And, like, that's it. It's all. It's smoke and mirrors, but so is life. And I kind of love that about that.

[Amanda]

That's kind of why I love wine, because it's like, there's a funny comedy to it. It's kind of like bullshit. It's like when you wine taste with your mom and you're like, I know this is bullshit, but she's like, grass, dirt. Oh, my God. It's like salt dirt. I'm like, okay.

[Josh]

And the people, like the psalms who work at the winery are like, it's a little bit like a stripper, where it's like, they're paid to be nice to you, right. Because they want you to spend money, like, 100%. It's like. And so you'll say, like, smells like dirt. And they're like, yeah, definitely.

[Trevor]

Good nose.

[Josh]

You know, these grapes actually grow in dirt.

[Amanda]

You picks that up. Wow. Good nose. You must know a lot about wine. And you're like, wow, I drink a lot of wine. That's really all you.

[Shane]

So when you pass the psalm test, it's just other psalms determining whether you, like, do the bullshit correctly kind.

[Josh]

I imagine it's like getting into the Magic Castle as a magician. You're like, how did I get here?

[Amanda]

There's so many magicians before.

[Shane]

As long as you sneak past the other magicians there, then you're in.

[Josh]

Same thing for being a psal.

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah. It's exactly the same magic castle.

[Amanda]

I feel like there's a lot of people who live there in, like, secret walls. Have you been in there? Where you're just like, what does this door lead to? And it's a whole family, like, hello.

[Shane]

For people who don't know in la, there is a castle in the hills called the Magic Castle. And it's where every magician strives to work. Yeah, it's a magic castle. And if you're a magician, which there's a lot of magicians in LA for some reason, it is the like, it's the SNL of magic kind of here in this city, that's where you want to work. And you can only get invited via. Like someone else.

[Amanda]

Yes, someone else. And also as a guest. You can only get invited to go in.

[Shane]

Yeah, you can't just walk up to the magic cast.

[Trevor]

I've never been.

[Shane]

If you, if you do, if you haven't. I've never been either.

[Josh]

Wait, I've never been either. Are you the only one that's actually been.

[Amanda]

I guess I'm the only one who's ever been. So. A guy that I did growlings with was a hilarious comedian and also an unbelievable magician. And him and his girlfriend did magic together and he was so good. And he's kind of like this. He has this whole like old Jewish man act that he puts on. And it's not an act, it's like.

[Shane]

Definitely who he is. It's not an act.

[Amanda]

It's not an act.

[Josh]

Such a funny character you're doing.

[Amanda]

It's such a good character. But like he does magic based on that and he's like slow and takes his time. But it's so. Everyone's like. And he invited us one time and I was like, holy shit. There's like rooms and bars from like years and years and years ago and you have to get the food and you know, the martini glasses are like tiny and freezing cold and the steak's pretty good and you're just like, where am I? I feel like they're like 90 year old ghosts just like roaming. It's such a bizarre. It feels like the whole thing is like carpeted, like wall. Well, I can't even, I can't really describe it, but you have to go.

[Shane]

I guess we have.

[Amanda]

I know you have to get invited.

[Trevor]

But like just kind of wander around in there too.

[Amanda]

You, you usually go, usually go for the food or you go and like sit and have a drink and then you wander around and try to like wait in line for the different shows. So like each. There's like all these little like rooms that you like that are kind of hidden and you have to wait in line and get there in time and then you go in and then magic magicians like put on a whole show, but you don't even have to do that. Sometimes they're just walking around and they'll be like, hey, wanna pull a card for me? And you're like, where did you come from? To me, it's so, like, funny. It's like how you're talking about with psalms, like, making you laugh. It's like. That also makes me laugh because there's like, they're dressed up. You have to be really dressed up.

[Josh]

They don't drive you in.

[Shane]

You have to be, like, in a suit.

[Amanda]

So everyone's really dressed up and pulling cards and it's kind of funny.

[Shane]

Magicians are such a specific personality. Like every magician is. It's like, yep, they're mysterious. Are they?

[Amanda]

I don't know.

[Shane]

I don't think magicians are too mysterious.

[Amanda]

Here's the thing. I feel like they go home to their couch and they're in, like, their sweats and they're eating chips and they're like, what's on tv? And then they put on a suit and they're like, here we go.

[Josh]

You tweeted something about how you're so polite that even if a magician pulled you wrong card, you just go, haha, yeah, man. That's it. Which is kind of my fundamental problem with it. That's what I feel like. I feel like I have to manage their emotions because I want them to succeed. Because if they fail, then it's gonna be.

[Shane]

It's never happened.

[Josh]

You know what I mean?

[Shane]

It's never happened. But if a magician did fuck up on the trick, I would pretend I'd feel so bad.

[Amanda]

What?

[Shane]

I'd feel really bad.

[Amanda]

I feel like this back is not my card.

[Shane]

I'd be like, it's not my card. Fuck you.

[Amanda]

No, I just feel like, I'll give you another chance.

[Trevor]

I feel like there's this pressure. Cause I feel like every time I get approached by a magician and they're doing a card trick, I'm like, I know you're gonna have the card. I've never had a magician, not like someone who's like a professional magician, not pull the card. And so I feel like there's this pressure to be, like, amazed by it at the end where I'm like, oh, my God. But, like, the whole time, I'm like, I know you're gonna get my card.

[Shane]

I know you're tricky.

[Josh]

No, the only real magician is David Blaine. And his best trick is where he just eats a wine glass.

[Trevor]

David Blaine, there's no trick.

[Josh]

He's just eating a glass and it messes up his teeth really bad.

[Shane]

I've yet to impersonate David Blaine.

[Trevor]

That's real magic.

[Shane]

I haven't actually seen much magic in person. Like, I've seen, like, little card tricks where I'm like, okay, I understand the, like, deceit of it all, but I've yet to see a magic trick in person that's like those David Blaine levels.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Like, the one where he, like, has a car, he, like, throws it at a windshield, and suddenly it's, like, in the glass. I want to see something like that.

[Amanda]

I'm gonna see it at the magic.

[Shane]

Did you see? What's the. Do you know what the craziest magic trick you've ever seen is?

[Amanda]

Ah.

[Shane]

Is there one that you're, like, something.

[Amanda]

With, like, this guy had a bunch of coins, and then all these different people had coins, and he knew what the were, and the people were like, how? And, you know, they're, like, 60 plus old, so, you know, they're not fudgeing around. You're like, that bitch didn't come up with those points.

[Josh]

They lived through the Cold War.

[Amanda]

Yeah, exactly.

[Shane]

I've yet to have, like, I'd love a trick where there's something on my person that they've put there, and I'm like, how did that end up. I'm telling you that I'm so curious about that.

[Amanda]

I'll find a way to get you in.

[Shane]

Okay, let's break me into the Magic Castle. Because if you're not invited. If you're not invited, you open up the front door, and it just leads to the exit. And you're like. You're like, oh.

[Josh]

Through.

[Trevor]

And you're just walking out.

[Shane]

Walking back out. Yeah, that's what happens.

[Trevor]

I love, like, I think the impressive part about magic, though, is just the sleight of hand. Like, it's. It's insane that they are able to do that. There's this guy who. There's, like, a documentary. I think it's on Netflix. It's not even magic. But it's this guy who is blind, and he is just so incredible at shuffling cards. He goes through, like, an entire deck of cards a day from shuffling it so much, but he can shuffle a deck of cards and reshuffle it so that it's completely in order. Like, his hands have just touched cards so many times that he can tell exactly where every card is when he's shuffling it fully blind. He can shuffle a deck, pull out a card, and tell you exactly what it is. It's unbelievable. The most insane documentary about him. Whole documentary. And all he does the entire time is just. He's always shuffling Cards, when he's talking, when he's doing anything, he's shuffling cards and practice. And it's the most.

[Amanda]

So much practice.

[Trevor]

Unreal thing I've ever seen.

[Shane]

Isn't it true, this always blows my mind, that every time you shuffle a deck of cards, that's the first time that organization of cards has ever existed. Like, the odds is that when you shuffle a deck of cards, that just the way that the odds work, that order of cards has never before been shuffled into place before.

[Amanda]

I don't know.

[Trevor]

I think I've heard. Yeah, I think I've heard something like that.

[Shane]

We'll have Selina a fact check so that I'm not just lying to you.

[Josh]

It's like one of those things where it's like if you. You put a monkey in a typewriter in a room with enough that the odds eventually. You know what I learned last night?

[Trevor]

I learned last night, Raven and I were watching Wedding Crashers.

[Shane]

Okay.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Trevor]

Incredible films.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Trevor]

But Owen Wilson makes a joke about Australia and how the toilets, like, flush the opposite way. And Raven was like, what? I was like, oh, no, that's a real thing. Like, if you go to the, like, southern hemisphere, the toilets flush the opposite way. And I googled it. Completely imitated.

[Josh]

Not sure.

[Shane]

Yeah, completely a lie.

[Trevor]

It's not true, but it's like something I saw like, a video of probably when I was like, in high school, and I was like, dude, that's crazy. And then they're like on the equator, the. The water doesn't spin at all. It just goes straight down. And I was like, oh, my God. I looked it up. Completely a myth.

[Shane]

I miss just. There's really no excuse for, like, buying into that shit nowadays, but it happens more now.

[Amanda]

And that's freaking magic. But you tell you believe it. It's like point 0, infinity, 4, 5% statistically, when you.

[Shane]

Or when you shuffle a deck of cards, that's the first time that has ever existed.

[Josh]

How long. How long until we get to a point where we will have had a repeat? You know what I mean?

[Shane]

Yeah. We're not counting this blind guy who's shuffling all day, that's he's made so.

[Amanda]

Many different iterations outside of his card. And he know. He's, like, memorizing the feel with the card. That's what I mean.

[Josh]

Billion people on earth. Yeah. Each person's probably shuffling a deck of card, what, 15, 30 times a day.

[Shane]

Yeah. Every person is every person, you know what I mean? Playing Balatro. Yeah. All day, every day. Speaking of Wedding crashers. Trevor, you're engaged, dude.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Trevor]

Engaged. How crazy.

[Shane]

Join us.

[Trevor]

It's so awesome.

[Shane]

Is it awesome?

[Trevor]

It's so awesome just to be able to call her my fiance. Cuz like we don't, I mean we don't have like a date for 90 days. Yeah.

[Amanda]

I love that you're on that show.

[Trevor]

No, I mean it's like. Cause like I love her so much and. But it always felt weird being like, oh yeah, this is like my girlfriend. Like it just doesn't feel that serious, you know? So like we don't have a date set. We're like saving money. You know, we live in LA and we're broke. Like we're not gonna have a wedding probably anytime really soon. But it's like now I get to go around and be like, oh yeah, my fiance. And it just feels so official. It's like, it's like, no, dude, I swear I really love her. Like she's my fiance. I really love her.

[Shane]

I swear.

[Amanda]

Dude, people question it when it's like your girlfriend. They're like, ah, yeah, yeah.

[Trevor]

There's like okay, your girlfriend. But no, it's not.

[Amanda]

It does have a weird connotation. My girlfriend. People are like, okay, it just doesn't so long. And you're like, dude, you got a girlfriend for years.

[Shane]

I think the problem. Yeah. Is that that term is so all encompassing. Like it can so many different like levels.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Shane]

It's why I kind of like what people have been saying partner a lot. And I'm like, I think that adds like.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

A different layer.

[Trevor]

Yeah. We, we would say partner. And like.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Trevor]

That did feel more official. But now it's like fiance. I'm like, yeah. And then people ask me, have a date. And I'm like, no, probably never going.

[Josh]

To take your time if you think they're asking you that. She is going to get asked so often that is going to ruin her life. Was that your experience?

[Amanda]

Oh, so much. I mean I have three sisters.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

So when. And what colors are you thinking? Like what should I wear and what. And both my sisters have two kids and they were always going to be in the wedding and they're like, so what? For like suit. I'm like, I don't, I don't have a dress myself. Like I don't. I think I like learned that. I feel like people in life, they're. It's like the next best. It's like the next question that they should ask.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Like they have like a book that's like how to be Social when it comes to this stuff. And it's like, that's the next question that they ask. You're engaged. They're like, great. When's the date? Because all they need to say is, like, that's awesome. They can't live in that unknown gray area, so they just say the next thing. So I kind of stopped taking it so personally. But I remember being engaged and being extremely overwhelmed. Like, I was so excited, but people are like, can I throw you, like, an engagement party? And I want it to crumble and die. And now I'm thinking, like, why did I just let them do that? But you just get so. I don't know. You get so overwhelmed. Cause you're like, I also wanna have a say in this, but I don't know what I want it to look like. And people are like, they're ready. They're like, when's the next thing?

[Trevor]

Yeah. And then it's like, once you're married, then it's like, oh, are you thinking about kids soon?

[Amanda]

100%.

[Trevor]

Good God.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Josh]

The escalator, man. You hop on the escalator and you just never hop.

[Trevor]

Then you have kids and you're like, well, when are you gonna die?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Wait, Amanda, how long was your engagement?

[Amanda]

Really? Not that long. And honestly, why I'm saying, don't rush. Like, my husband was like, we could wait another year. And I felt so much pressure just from myself and, like, the outside world that I was like, no, no, we have to. So my engagement was, like, really a year? Yeah, really not that long, but we could have done two years. Now, don't get me wrong, the wedding day was, like, one of the best days of my life. It really, really was. And I didn't think that I was like, oh, God, everyone says it's the best day of their life, but it fucking was. It was unbelievable. And I'm so glad when we got married, like, I. I'm. I'm glad we didn't wait, but, like, we could have waited. So it was only a year. It wasn't that long. And yours was.

[Shane]

It was only a couple months ago, right?

[Josh]

My wedding, Yeah. I got married a couple months ago, but our engagement was almost three years.

[Trevor]

Wow.

[Josh]

There was so much pressure. We started planning early, but there was so much pressure to throw the perfect wedding. And that's something that, like, really freaks me out about the world in general is just like, the bachelor party, the bachelorette party. And we're traveling, we're going to park, smoke the shower, the everything. And I'm Just like invite. Like, I grew up in like a crappy apartment complex that had like a party clubhouse. And like growing up, you'd get a gallon of store brand ice cream and a crappy sheet cake and you'd just invite friends over there. And that's what I want to go back to for like engagement parties and bachelor parties.

[Amanda]

Yes.

[Josh]

You know, bring one Craigslist erotic dancer to that apart, whatever the version of that apartment clubhouse is because there's just so many different events and all your other friends are getting married and it's so expensive and it's just been this like escalation over a long period of.

[Amanda]

Time and you're, you're, you're kind of. I feel exactly the same way. I was like, I do better. I love big groups of people, but I personally do better with small groups. So I split shit up like the whole year. I was like, I'm essentially getting married for the whole year. Like, I'm going to have like a hangout with my sisters on the east coast and that's going to be like a bachelorette party. But essentially it's just a weekend. And then I'm going to have like, like the Craigslist stripper, which I definitely.

[Josh]

Had like, like fireman doctor. What was, was her jeans.

[Amanda]

Well, actually, actually I, I love tarot cards and my friends booking. We rented a house on this horse ranch, which I was like, this is sick. And he was showed up as a tarot reader, but he like, wasn't prepared. He, he was the wrong guy. They were like, this is not who we picked. And he showed up in this big gaping gown that my friend had from Groundling. She was like, I stole this from the basement and gave it to him. And then he had tarot cards and he went, it's gonna be a fun night. You and your friends are gonna have a good time. Let's party. And I was like, thanks for my card reading.

[Shane]

Oh, your card is the huge ball card. Uh oh.

[Josh]

Oh no. The swordsman. Something terrible has happened in.

[Amanda]

Nothing better than a stripper in jeans, let me tell you that.

[Trevor]

The movement was.

[Amanda]

It was like he was a snake. He was like. He also was a little injured. I'm not really sure.

[Trevor]

Oh no.

[Josh]

The only time my friends have earnestly gotten strippers and it was from Craigslist. They were lovely. They were from Bakersfield was when I won our Fantasy Football Championship, 2016. And they were dressed like Guy Fieri. They had.

[Shane]

That's awesome.

[Josh]

My buddy put together the costume. I swear they had the Fu Manchu mustache, everything. And hell yeah, put out a giant tarp. And they. They poured five gallons of barbecue sauce on me. And that was the most contact that, you know, there was not.

[Shane]

Nobody was shot with a gun.

[Josh]

Same real thing that happened in my life.

[Amanda]

Yeah, that was the most contact.

[Josh]

Well, yeah, we did. I mean, none of us were like, there for, you know, the actual, like, stripper part of it. We were more there for the Guy Fieri of it all.

[Amanda]

I was like, flipped and, like, slammed on my face. I was like, ow.

[Shane]

Holy shit.

[Amanda]

It's awesome.

[Josh]

You don't know where to go from the barbecue sauce. And there was. There's a whole, like, Guy Fieri. Like, there's like a trapped out Guy Fieri song of just him saying, like, welcome to Flavortown, you know, and they danced to that. And so.

[Amanda]

Stop.

[Josh]

But that was not the bachelor party.

[Amanda]

That was just. See, that's the thing is, like, I'm so sick of these words of like, a shower, a bachelor party, a bridal shower. And like, let's just all you. The whole point of a wedding is to hang out with your friends and be like, hey, we're doing this. Thanks for being there for us. Like, thanks for being our tribe. Like, that. That to me was the whole thing. Like, we didn't have an engagement party. I didn't really have a shower. I just had like a bachelorette with my sisters from home and then my friends here. Because that, to me, that was like plenty. It was a lot for me to process. But then, I don't know, like, I felt like I was, like, not really relaxed. I get really overwhelmed with, like, a lot of attention. And I. And. And crazy when I. I'm a actor. But, like, I had a 40 person wedding. Like, I had it small and like, if my husband were to choose, he would have had 500 people. Like, he's like, let's party and dance.

[Shane]

It's a different kind of attention.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

When it comes to this type of stuff. And it's also attention from, like, your family, like, people in your life that. That kind of can stress you out more easily than anyone else.

[Amanda]

So they're like, how you feeling?

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Trevor]

And you're like, I was feeling good until you asked me that.

[Amanda]

They're like, yeah. And you're like, what. What's the hidden meaning here?

[Shane]

I think it's one of those times in life where you feel this pressure, where it's like, does everyone expect me to know absolutely 100% for sure what I want in every aspect of my Life. And it's like, man, I'm really unsure of a lot of things.

[Amanda]

I don't know.

[Shane]

But the way people talk to you, they're just like. Like, yeah, so you know what you're doing? Do you know what you want with this and this and this and this? And I'm like, maybe I don't.

[Amanda]

I think they feel better. I think, for what I learned about my mom and I really had to dig through this is like, she just wants to know that, like, I'm going to be okay and, like, I'm going to have a good time.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

But it comes off in all those questions, you know what I mean? Like, and people are like, why don't they trust me? And it's like, no, they. They just want to make sure you're gonna be good and set up and ready to go. And it's like, I can say that now. Cause I already went through all of it. But, like, you really have to, like, dig through that and be like, what is. What is the hidden meaning here? And it's like, they just want to make sure that you're good.

[Shane]

Yeah, most of them.

[Josh]

It's funny talking about the different kinds of attention, but the people are definitely a big part of that. Cause if you would imagine, like, your mom and all your closest family members being on set every day, you would probably have very different feelings about your work in certain ways, right?

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Because you. You're, like, carrying so much baggage from such a young age with all those people that they say, one thing, you know, there's like, is everything going okay? It's like, well, why would it not be? Why would I be? You said that to me when I was 8 and things weren't going okay.

[Amanda]

Yeah, totally true. So everything's gonna be okay when you're having kids.

[Shane]

What has been on your mind more, Trevor? Has it been the engagement or has it been the fact that you're gonna be in Creator Clash?

[Trevor]

Oh, God.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Trevor]

Dude. No, I.

[Amanda]

How's your nose doing, by the way?

[Trevor]

Nose is doing good. It doesn't really hurt too much. Thank you.

[Amanda]

Did you get some Arnica? You didn't?

[Trevor]

I don't. I don't go to the store.

[Amanda]

Okay.

[Trevor]

I'm sorry.

[Amanda]

I should have just bought it for you.

[Shane]

Tiny bit of context. Creator Clash is a YouTuber boxing event that's been going on for a couple years where YouTubers beat the shit out of each other. And, Trevor, you're in it this year.

[Trevor]

Yeah, I'm in it, dude. It's exhaust. It's so weird to be like, I've played sports my whole life, and I've never been. It's been so long since I've been bad at a sport, you know, like, learned a sport. So, like, going into it, I was like, I'm athletic. Like, I haven't boxed before, but, like, surely it can't be, like, you know, I'm going into this with athletic experience. And, dude, how humbling it is to just get punched in the face. Yeah, it's. It's brutal. But I finally feel like I'm getting better, which is nice. It's starting to click a little bit for me. I'm getting less scared. But it's become so tiring because now, like, the last couple weeks have been so busy. Like, just long shoot days. Long days. And then on any of the days that I'm not shooting, I'm getting beat up.

[Amanda]

You're training.

[Trevor]

I'm, like, going to a gym, and a Bulgarian man is just punching me. He's loving it too. Yeah. Oh, he loves it. He, like, punches me in the face, and my nose is all bloody, and he goes, oh, sorry. He's like, but get back up. And I'm like, hero's journey.

[Amanda]

You're on the hero's journey. Boo.

[Trevor]

Yeah, no, it's really outside my comfort zone, though, and I think it's really good for me because they're genuinely. That picture of my bloody nose, when he punched me, I got sent to the ground and just, like, couldn't help myself from just immediately, like, crying. I was just on the ground crying, and I was like, I want to get up and I want to walk out of this gym because this isn't fun, and I don't really like punching people. So, like, that's not even fun the other side of it. But no, I mean, it's a challenge, and it's for a really awesome cause. It's, like, for charity. It's really cool, and it's an awesome group of people. So it's outside my comfort zone. It's hard, but I'm glad that I'm doing it. And once it's done and after I win, I'm probably not ever gonna box again.

[Amanda]

And after you win?

[Trevor]

Yeah, after I win.

[Shane]

That's been so many interviews with people who've participated in Creator Clash. They're like, so are you gonna keep doing this? They're like, no, I'm done. No, no.

[Trevor]

I'm gonna go back to just playing pickup basketball. It's so much fun. Pick up basketball. So much Fun. Getting punched in the face. Not fun. Just like going home and hurting.

[Amanda]

That's extremely painful.

[Trevor]

I started sitting down in the shower again. I haven't sat down, like in movies.

[Amanda]

When people are really falling apart.

[Shane]

Boxing dramas now.

[Trevor]

Dude, I haven't sat down in the shower since I was, like, unmedicated for my mental health issues. And now I'm like, getting home and I'm like, grave. This is gonna be a long one. I gotta sit down for a minute.

[Amanda]

Oh, I can just picture you, like, turning it on. Yeah.

[Shane]

No, no, you can't do this, Trevor. You gotta give it up.

[Josh]

Get up, Trevor.

[Shane]

Yeah. Amanda's from Boston. She knows like 15,000 boxers.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Because everyone in Boston's a boxer.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Yeah. I did a lot of Muay Thai training. I did like two and a half years of Muay Thai training and I loved, loved it. But I will say it took me a really long time to not be afraid of being punched in the face. The training that I'm doing, they're not actively punching me in the face, but still they go for it. And you're supposed to slip. And I, in the beginning, I'd be like, yeah. And they'd be like, you can't, you cannot shut your eyes. And I was like, but it's natural.

[Shane]

I shut my eyes, it goes away.

[Amanda]

So it took me months to like, open my eyes to a fucking punch coming towards me. Me.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

No.

[Trevor]

And that's what scary. He's like, you got to have a poker face when you're in there. He's like, you can't flinch. You can't look like you're getting tired. Like you just have to sit there and see a punch coming at you. Just straight faced. Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's a whole.

[Amanda]

Different kind of like wedding planning. You know what I'm saying? Just focus on creator clash.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's the same thing.

[Trevor]

I could see boxing being fun as, like a casual workout where, like, I'm going in and I'm getting punches in on a bag. Like, it is tiring and it's a full body. Like it's everything.

[Amanda]

Good cardio.

[Trevor]

But yeah, I sparring and just getting hit over and over again. And you get to the point, like, it's so tiring. And when I got my face, like, really punched, we were doing four three minute rounds of sparring. That was in the first round. So then I had to go three more rounds, just blood pouring out of my nose. I was also, like, kind of sick at the time, so. It was mucus y and, like, there was just, like, snotty blood hanging out of my nose. And I'm so tired to the point where I can't even throw punches. And I'm like, I just have to get through this last couple minutes without being hurt more. And Grisha, my coach, literally, he's, like, looking at me. He puts his hands down. He's just like, just punch me. He's like, just punch me. He puts his head down. He's like, just punch me. And I'm just, like, punching him. He's like, see, if you punch, he's like, that's why you keep your head down. It doesn't hurt if you get punched up here. He's like, just keep punching me. I was like, I just want to go home.

[Amanda]

Why do I love this guy so much? Like, this is fucking great.

[Shane]

He has such a specific personality to me type. It's kind of like we were talking about at the beginning. Like, chefs have such a specific personality type. I feel like boxes.

[Amanda]

Yeah, chefs, you guys are a little. Totally unhinged.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Absolute freaks.

[Shane]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Josh]

Suckers for pain and punishment, too.

[Trevor]

Well, he's got the craziest story because he grew up in Bulgaria, like, communist Bulgaria. And it's like he was fighting, and that's what he was good at. So that's what he did. It's like he was good at fighting, so all he did was fight, like, since he was a kid. And he's just telling me these stories about, like, him. Like, he's like, the jump roping that he would do with, like, a hose because he didn't have a jump rope. And then he, like, came to America and was, like, fighting on, like, the American national team, but just, like, he was just going through it. Like, that's all he did was fight when he was younger. And he loves to get punched. He loves to punch people, and he.

[Amanda]

Loves to get probably nostalgia.

[Shane]

That's got to be really scary when you're fighting someone who enjoys it.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And it's like, yeah, punch me. That's what I feed off of.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Trevor]

No, he pulled up this YouTube videos, like, check it out. And it was like this, like, professional, like, famous boxer. He's like, yeah. He's like, I had him punch me and show. He shows this YouTube video of just, like, this professional boxer, and Grisha's just there, shirtless, like, holding this pose, just getting rocked in the body by this guy, just. And he's, like, so proud of it. Like, dude, why would you want to.

[Shane]

Do that Watch me get beat up, dude.

[Trevor]

Yeah. I get punched in the kidney once, and I'm like, I gotta go home.

[Amanda]

How many people has he shown that video to?

[Trevor]

Like, at a bar?

[Amanda]

He's like, watching. Watch me get punched.

[Shane]

Check out this video.

[Amanda]

Yeah, I'm giving punch.

[Shane]

That's cool, man.

[Josh]

All right, feel yourself getting tougher. Like, can you feel that level of progress? Because that's, like, the fun part of sports in hard endurance training.

[Trevor]

Yeah, No, I definitely do feel like every time I get punched, it does feel, like, a little bit less. Like, it hurts. Like, I'm more ready for it. I'm expecting it. It doesn't take me as long to recover. Even within those four rounds. Like, after he gave me a bloody nose, like, he got me in the face more. It wasn't like he was like, all right, I gave you a bloody nose. I'm just gonna try and hit the body. Like, he kept punching me in the face, and it was like, every time I was like, I just got to get back up quicker. Like, I gotta get back up faster. And I'm just like, all right, keep going. Just waiting for that little. That timer to go off, that the round is over, because. Yeah, no, it's crazy.

[Shane]

And so you'll be training for the next few months.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Shane]

This is just the beginning.

[Trevor]

Yeah, this is just the beginning. And it's only gonna get tougher.

[Shane]

I mean, it's gonna get worse and worse.

[Trevor]

Yeah, he's just gonna keep punching me harder. But I will say, it's nice to know, like, in the back of my head, that the person that I'm fighting, and honestly, anyone, that I will spar probably until the fight cannot punch me as hard as he did.

[Shane]

Sure.

[Trevor]

Like, he can't. Nobody's gonna be able to, like, hit me and put me through as much pain. Like, he's so fast. His hands move so fast. It's like, everything that I know about the sport, once I'm actually sparring just goes out the window. Like, I can. I can, like, slip and have defense and, like, block punches as much as I want. When we're doing, like, glove work and stuff, as soon as he's in there and throwing those punches, I'm like, I can't even see what's going on. Like, I can barely throw punches myself.

[Amanda]

It's meditative. It's like, you have to tap into something that's really focused, and I feel like that takes years and years and years to do.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Very cool.

[Shane]

It's like practice.

[Trevor]

Yeah. But it does Feel good to get better. I was even, like, talking to him yesterday when we were training. Like, something clicks, and it's like, oh, this footwork thing clicks, where, like, I can feel the punch getting harder because of this thing that I figured out how to do with my body and feeling more comfortable throwing more punches and more combinations. Like, it does feel good to get better, but, you know, then when I fight against him, I feel like an idiot, and I feel like I can't even do anything. Like, anything. But I feel like once I'm in there against someone who, like, is the similar skill level to me, everything's just gonna, like, slow down, you know?

[Josh]

Cool. No amount of pain that he's put you through can compare to the amount of pain that the Soviet government put him through.

[Amanda]

You know what I mean?

[Shane]

Think about that.

[Josh]

That's true.

[Shane]

And keep that in mind.

[Amanda]

Think about that. Think about that.

[Trevor]

No, no, I do. He often reminds me.

[Amanda]

I was gonna say. How much does he talk about it?

[Trevor]

Oh, all the time. All the time. It's awesome. I encourage. I'll just ask him about it. Sometimes I'll just be sitting there just doing, like, doing, like, 200 crunches, and I'm like, so tell me a story about when you were young.

[Amanda]

Tell me the story.

[Shane]

You need to.

[Trevor]

How was a Gorbachev?

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Another thing that's coming up. Cause I feel like you guys have so many things coming up. Is your live show.

[Amanda]

You guys have a live show?

[Josh]

We have a live show. Which Trevor.

[Trevor]

April 3rd.

[Josh]

Nothing but April 3rd, 7pm Pacific Time, live with Kiswee. Kiswee's our partner on that one. And Trevor's competing in. Which means that Trevor doesn't know much about it at all. He knows when to show up, and he knows that he's wearing a cool costume.

[Shane]

Mike Tyson is gonna come out.

[Josh]

It's actually Grisha.

[Trevor]

He's gonna put you through.

[Josh]

No, but it is a cooking competition. It is the hardest cooking competition. It's gonna be all four of the kitchen. It's gonna be Trevor. It's gonna be Lily. It's gonna be Vee. It's going to be Nicole competing against each other for a grand prize. That is a secret right now, but it will be revealed that you are, like, you are genuinely going to want to win.

[Trevor]

No, I. Annelise asked me. She was like, I. She's like, do you have your passport? Like, and I was like, is this, like, a joke? Like, is the winner actually going to.

[Shane]

Get, like, such a funny thing to ask someone at any point? Like, passport up to date.

[Amanda]

I mean, the only reason I asked for a passport is because you're. You're going somewhere.

[Josh]

But, no, it's basically, you know, I have had to do so many very fun but also very dumb and very hard things throughout Mythical Kitchen. That has all been produced by all the kitcheneers. And so now I'm turning the tables, and I am going to run them through the hardest cooking test possible. We have some really fun surprise guests coming up, and I'm gonna be drinking. Emily, who is one of the funniest people I have ever had the chance to work with. Emily Fleming is going to be the bartender throughout this.

[Amanda]

You're gonna be drinking and you're hosting and also telling them exactly what they need to do and judging them.

[Josh]

And then also going through some physical challenges myself. Yes.

[Amanda]

Physical.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

Do you plan on getting, like, drunk?

[Josh]

Uh, no comment.

[Amanda]

He just said he went blind.

[Shane]

He went blind from caffeine, so we can't really trust him.

[Josh]

Moderation is not my strong suit in anything. Thank you.

[Shane]

Have you been drunk on a live show before? Cause Rhett and Link have done that type of thing before.

[Josh]

Trevor, have you ever been drunk during a live show?

[Trevor]

Mmm, couldn't say. I'm pretty responsible at work, generally speaking.

[Josh]

Nothing comes to mind.

[Trevor]

No, nothing comes to mind.

[Josh]

You did pour a lot of olive oil on me during the good mythical evening, obviously. We've done good mythical evening. Yeah. That live show, and that one's a lot more sexual than this one is because Rhett and Link can do that with each other, and it's fine because they've known each other.

[Shane]

Everybody knows that, lore.

[Josh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But. Yeah, but I build you up. Yeah, yeah. We got a lot of olive oil on that set during a live stream. That was the safety issue. That's fine. But this one going to be slightly less sexual.

[Amanda]

Incredible.

[Josh]

Thank you so much.

[Amanda]

The physical challenges that you're doing are going to be less sexual.

[Josh]

Yes. And I love that.

[Amanda]

So are you. So you're gonna be.

[Shane]

That's great.

[Amanda]

Fantastic. You're gonna be covered in barbecue sauce in the middle.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

And they're gonna be.

[Josh]

That's not sexual. That's sensual.

[Shane]

That's different.

[Amanda]

No, that's sensual. That's for a wedding. So they're gonna be, like, in their own different areas. There's four of them.

[Trevor]

Yes.

[Amanda]

And they're gonna be in their own different areas, and they have no idea the challenges that are. They're not even slightly prepped.

[Josh]

Not even slightly prepped for the Challenges. No. And we are. At some point. I'll give you some of the lowdown. At some point, divide you up, and you will have to compete one on one at points. You will have to compete all four. It's effectively like Mario Party, I just realized, but in real life.

[Shane]

Well, Trevor knows Mario Party.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Shane]

He knows how to play. He's a bunch of minigames.

[Trevor]

Really good at losing Mario Party.

[Josh]

And there is going to be certain elements of deception and backstabbing. Trying to sell your teammates down the river. We were inspired by a lot of the great TV shows of our generation. Squid game. Survivor Cutthroat Kitchen.

[Trevor]

Squid game.

[Amanda]

Squid game. Where they die. Where they literally die.

[Josh]

No, we're actually only speaking Korean is the squid game element. But we're really excited. We've been working super, super hard. I know, like, y'all have all produced livestreams, and it's such a fun new challenge that we have never done before on the mythical kitchen side. And so it's really cool because we now also have an excuse to do, like, bigger, better, cooler things.

[Amanda]

So are you gonna have an audience in there or is it. It's only gonna be live streamed.

[Josh]

Only gonna be live streamed. And there is, like, no room. There's no room for anything else in the kitchen right now because we've blocked out, like, all of the SoR locations. I'm also gonna have to be running from location to location during this.

[Trevor]

So this is happening at the mythical studio.

[Josh]

This is happening at the mythical studio.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah. What do you think we're gonna do?

[Trevor]

I don't know. Four people were in that kitchen.

[Shane]

We know as much about it.

[Trevor]

Yeah. That's insane. I thought maybe we'd be going somewhere.

[Josh]

We did ask you if you. Yeah. Had a passport, so I understand.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Josh]

We're going to Greenland to film it.

[Amanda]

That would be sick. Little Traders action. Go to Scotland and cast.

[Trevor]

That's even crazier. That kitchen is so small. Like, when you actually, like, put four people there trying to cook, that's tiny.

[Shane]

A fun fact of lore is a lot of old smosh sketches were shot in what is now the mythical kitchen.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Like, you watch, like, every dominoes ever. It's like, that was shot there.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Shane]

We used to.

[Amanda]

I was in that.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

I had, like.

[Shane]

You were there.

[Amanda]

I was there. And it was such a weird time. Like, me and Damien were playing these characters who were, like, fighting over a buttery phone. What a time.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Well, that's tiny.

[Josh]

Yeah. It's not big. It's gonna Be real cozy. It's gonna be real intimate in there.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Okay. So are there, like, three different dishes? You probably can't say anything. Never mind.

[Josh]

So a lot of them are going to. I will say the finale does involve cooking your best dish, but only two people will be in that.

[Shane]

And what's your best dish, Trevor?

[Amanda]

Well, beef Wellington.

[Josh]

There's going to be some catches. And you, you know, there's going to be some catches on what that best fish has to include. I will say that. I will say that.

[Trevor]

Okay.

[Josh]

But otherwise, a lot of it is, you know, going to be testing your. Your mental fortitude. It's going to be testing your speed. It's going to be testing your efficiency, your ability to follow directions.

[Trevor]

Okay.

[Josh]

Your ability to follow. It's going to get intense.

[Trevor]

That's really good for me.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God.

[Trevor]

I have gotten so much worse at cooking, I think, after having, like. Not. Now that I'm not cooking, like, full time for a.

[Shane]

Now that you're at smosh. You suck.

[Trevor]

Yeah, now that I'm at smosh, they made me bad at cooking.

[Amanda]

Yeah, we're bad kids.

[Shane]

And you went to college for baking?

[Trevor]

Yeah, no, my ba. I feel great about my baking. I like baked bread at home. Made a lovely loaf of brioche. But no, I feel like cooking. I'm like. I forget stuff sometimes. Like, I used to just. I don't know.

[Shane]

Can I.

[Trevor]

Out of practice.

[Shane]

I gotta be completely honest. It was only, like, in recent years when I was like, oh, baking and cooking are considered two different things. They are. Yeah, completely.

[Amanda]

I feel like baking, if you miss an ingredient, because I like to bake bread, and I feel like if you miss an ingredient, you are.

[Shane]

Is baking just anything to do with bread? Is that what clarifies is baked? What. What. What is the category of baking?

[Amanda]

Like, pies, cookies, and tarts and all that?

[Josh]

It's not like a hard line, per se, of what. What is cooking, what is baking, et cetera. But I don't know. How would you describe it? Because there's, like, baking and then there's, like, pastry. The French have different words for all of it, right?

[Amanda]

Pastry.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Boulanger, patissiere.

[Trevor]

Yeah. I think that like, like, bread things, specifically, anything that's having to do with, like, anything yeasted or risen, like, that's gonna be where, like, the science and the precision really matters.

[Amanda]

Cultures and all that.

[Trevor]

Yeah. And then things like, there are some things, like, I don't know, making, like, a really nice smooth custard, like, that's, like, just A lot of, like, technical, like, timing stuff.

[Josh]

But, like, to me, that's cooking. Like, the custard is cooking. I can make a custard, right?

[Trevor]

Yeah, custard.

[Josh]

And once I start working with. To me, a lot of it's like, architecture in a way. You know what I mean?

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Like, with actual pastry.

[Amanda]

That's so true.

[Trevor]

No, Yeah. I made a. I made a creme brulee a couple weeks ago.

[Amanda]

That's my favorite dessert.

[Shane]

That's cool.

[Amanda]

I love custard.

[Trevor]

I bought a torch just for it.

[Amanda]

Wow. You have to.

[Trevor]

Yeah, the top. I went to a little sur la top, got myself a torch. Yeah. And some nice little. Little creme brulee dishes. This is Valentine's Day. I wanted to make something special.

[Amanda]

I want that. That's amazing.

[Josh]

That's my, like, cheater. Like, chef ass dessert is making some sort of, like, a creme brulee or, like, a panna cotta will be my thing, but I'll like grapefruit zest panna cotta, you know?

[Trevor]

Cause it's so good.

[Josh]

Bergamot whipped cream, candied kumquat.

[Trevor]

What?

[Josh]

You know, Come on, now.

[Trevor]

Like, a creamy, like, custard dessert is just so good. It's just pudding.

[Amanda]

It has to be done right, though. I feel like, yeah, I love custard, but I don't really like super sweet desserts. I'm weird. I kind of like. Like lavender and Earl Grey and Ube, like, all these different flavors.

[Josh]

Same.

[Amanda]

And so sometimes I'll get custard, like, a banana custard, and I'm like, this is so sweet.

[Josh]

Let me sell you on grapefruit zest panna cotta.

[Amanda]

No, you said that. And the kumquat. I was like, that is my shit.

[Josh]

A lot of bitter, a lot of acid, a lot of freshness cutting through it. You should have come over for Valentine's Day. It would have been great.

[Amanda]

Oh, my God. It was my birthday. I should have been like, bye, husband. I'm going over to Chef Josh' with his wife.

[Shane]

When you were in college for baking, was it, like, you had to bring in your sourdough loaves to the. To the study hall?

[Trevor]

It actually, like, my sourdough loaf culinary school does just basically seem like a bit like they had me writing, like, I wrote an essay on, like, the origin and history of, like, like, laminated doughs and croissants. And then, like, I had my final, and I had to make a souffle for a final. I actually burnt the shit out of my thumb and finger. Because it was like a final and it was timed. And like, souffle is like, you got to get them right out of the oven. You don't want them to deflate. So I have my souffle coming out of the oven, but I'd already plated, and I had to get the souffle onto the plate. And I was like, I won't be able to grab this with enough precision with, like, a towel and get it on the plate without screwing up the plating. So I was like, if I do it fast enough, it can't hurt that bad. And so, like, straight out of the oven. Oven. I'm just like, looking at this, at this D and. And I just picked it up and put it on the plate. Really? It hurts.

[Shane]

What was the material like? What was that? Was it like.

[Trevor]

It's like a ceramic, Like.

[Josh]

Okay, yeah.

[Shane]

And I don't know if it was like castle or something.

[Amanda]

Oh, that would be like.

[Trevor]

No, it was so bad.

[Josh]

Spit on your hands. That would have helped you. Yeah. And so really, it has to heat the spit first.

[Trevor]

Just, like, instantly blister and. But I had to, like, take it up and, like, get graded. So I just go up and I, like, have my hand behind my back and I'm just, like, trying so hard to keep it together because my hand hurt so bad. But, yeah, I don't know, it's just silly. I just, like, come in and be like, oh, it's pizza day. We're making pizza.

[Josh]

Normal pizza class.

[Amanda]

That's like improv school. It's like, all right, which character are you coming up with? And they're gonna be in CVS and you got to talk to this random guy and let's get out the who.

[Josh]

The what, the where.

[Amanda]

And you're like, here I go. Or you'll do like a whole space work challenge where it's like three minutes of you making coffee, but there's nothing there. It's all space.

[Shane]

Is there a school?

[Amanda]

There's school.

[Shane]

Because there's no college where you can major in improv, though. But that'd be hilarious.

[Amanda]

This is later when you're an adult and you've made the decision making money.

[Shane]

What'd you major in? You know, just figuring it out, the gray area.

[Josh]

I mean, I was a political science major and I wrote. I wrote a 10 page paper on. On the Iggy Azalea music video. It's spelled P U. Dollar sign. Dollar sign Y. I don't know how to pronounce it, but yeah, I wrote a very serious 10 page paper on that and like subverting the male gaze. I don't know. But normal college.

[Amanda]

Sigh.

[Josh]

Who's to say? But who's to say? Yeah. So normal college is also a little bit of a bit, depending on what you study.

[Shane]

You didn't go to culinary school?

[Josh]

None. Not at all.

[Shane]

You just learned it on the streets.

[Josh]

Culinary school. Hard knocks.

[Amanda]

I love that though.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah. And I have a. Shortcomings in the kitchen because of it.

[Amanda]

Tons. Tons.

[Josh]

Yeah. Don't know how to do a lot. Oh, ask me to filet a fish. I can barely do it. I just, I watch the YouTube videos.

[Amanda]

I feel like that's filleting a fish is hard though.

[Josh]

Yeah, I am so.

[Amanda]

I mean, do you think in school you would learn all of those things? Oh, you can't bake.

[Josh]

Can't bake? No. Jeff ever seen me try stuff?

[Shane]

Doesn't know what Braids.

[Amanda]

Baking is a separate thing.

[Josh]

It's a separate thing.

[Amanda]

It's so hard. When I. When I had to learn how to bake, it was so many failed attempts. Making my own culture with so many failed attempts. It's like there's so many things you can't control. It's like heat, temperature, timing.

[Josh]

No.

[Trevor]

You can let a dough sit out on the counter for like 15 minutes too long. Proofing, and then the whole bread is just like torn and over proofed and crazy. Like, it really is super precise. I know. Culinary school was every single day we did something different. Every single day we baked or made a different dish or dessert or something. And so it was like really, like, I learned so many techniques and about so many different kinds of foods, which was really helpful. Like, it wasn't. It was so much knowledge. And it also helped me realize the things that I hate because I love baking. But my like, final, final for my entire, like culinary school, like cold, like time was a wedding cake and it was the worst thing ever, really. I had to like make. I had to decorate like a wedding cake. And it was awful and I hated it. And that was a moment I was like, I'm never making a wedding.

[Amanda]

Precise little.

[Trevor]

Oh, yeah. I was doing like gum paste flowers. Like, I had to make like these hyper realistic, like orchids, like, to go on the cake. And it was, it was.

[Shane]

So now you're gonna do that again? Yeah.

[Amanda]

You're making your own wedding cake?

[Trevor]

People ask me that. They're like, are you gonna make your own wedding? Hell no. No, I don't want to work.

[Amanda]

You don't want to, like, did you want to cook on your wedding? I know you didn't, but, like, was that, like, ever a thought?

[Josh]

I. I would have wanted to if it was just me. I catered a buddy's, like, 80 person wedding once just by myself, like, no help whatsoever.

[Trevor]

That's crazy.

[Amanda]

That's really hard.

[Josh]

I had the best time. I love to kind of. It's the sicko mindset, you know? It's like, I love. I stayed up for, like, two straight days doing it. It was awesome. So for my own, I would have, like, wanted to do that. And I even had talked to Julia about doing that for a little, like, engagement but party, because we're gonna hire, like, a taquero for it. And I was like, I can just do this all myself.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Josh]

But so much of it and so much of relationships I stare directly at you is about finding that compromise where you realize that it's actually been. The coolest thing about marriage is like, oh, this is no longer about me. Like, I've been indulging in my own kind of, you know, selfish bullshit for, like, my entire life of, like, well, I want to do this thing and I'm gonna do it.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And now it's like, well, no, this is for the unit and for the greater good of what we're, like, you know, going to achieve in her life. And so, yeah, I was happy to just go along with the ride and.

[Amanda]

Yeah. Because at the end of the day, she wants you. I feel the same way. I mean, my husband also, and it did happen the night before my wedding. He wanted to barbecue, like, like, literally, like, meats and vegetables on this huge grill in Santa Barbara for everyone the night before. And it was a big struggle in mine, but it was, like, something that was so important to him. And I was like, you know what? It's the night before. It's not our actual wedding. You can do it. Did I see him that whole night? No. But was he so fucking happy? Every picture of him is like. And he has, like, just so much meat and, like, vegetables. And I'm like, okay, well, I can't take that away from him.

[Josh]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Amanda]

But on our actual day, I could see. Because she wouldn't ever see you.

[Josh]

Exactly. Yeah.

[Amanda]

She wouldn't see you. And you be up all night thinking about it.

[Josh]

And I was, like, really shocked on my wedding day of, like, how present I was able to be in that moment, because, I don't know, I kind of struggle with especially the very kind of sentimental stuff, especially when it's something that's like, very rote and de rigueur in life. I kind of just like scoff at.

[Shane]

It a little bit.

[Josh]

But the actual, like wedding ceremony, I was so incredibly emotional during it and it felt like so hyper real in a way that I really didn't expect. And it was. It was like, really meaningful.

[Trevor]

Yeah, I cried.

[Josh]

Yeah. Trevor, you actually cry. I cried at you at my vows.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Julie each had like five minute vows.

[Trevor]

I think it was like. I think I had like. It was like twice. I think during. I think it was when Jules was walking down the aisle and then.

[Amanda]

Oh, yeah.

[Trevor]

A bride walking down the aisle. I don't know. I always cry at weddings. And then. Yeah, during the vows it was. Shed some tears.

[Josh]

It was like a really intimate setting too. And knowing that, like Julia built the chuppah and we had her grandfather's talis, you know, on it. And her brother did the actual ceremony and he said some like, sweet things and. Wow.

[Amanda]

So sweet. That is so.

[Josh]

And I'm glad I didn't. I wasn't worrying about, like, are the flautas still crispy?

[Shane]

Exactly.

[Trevor]

I also had a. I had a cocktail. Cocktails during the ceremony.

[Shane]

Whoa.

[Josh]

That was something we made sure.

[Amanda]

Really?

[Josh]

You have a penicillin?

[Trevor]

Yeah, penicillin.

[Josh]

Favorite cocktail of all time.

[Shane]

But cocktails during the ceremony.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Well, we got married at the same place, different times.

[Josh]

I didn't know that.

[Amanda]

We got married at the courthouse. I got Santa Barbara courthouse.

[Shane]

But I just mean I haven't been to many weddings.

[Amanda]

They didn't have cocktails, weren't allowed.

[Shane]

I haven't been to many weddings where there's any drinks during the ceremony.

[Amanda]

I think it should be a must now that I'm like.

[Josh]

That was like on our list. We're like. We don't want anyone to ever feel like they wish they had a drink in their hand. And they don't.

[Amanda]

It's so much better because it really is like that whole the ceremony part. And I love the ceremony when you read your own vows and all that, but it's like, with a little cocktail would be just so nice.

[Josh]

And every wedding we'd been to, we're just like. We're sitting there during the ceremony and we're like, God, I wish I had a drink.

[Amanda]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Amanda]

Damn.

[Shane]

Damn.

[Amanda]

Damn. Well, we weren't allowed them. That was like the biggest thing. There were like, no champagne.

[Shane]

Not fucking drinking.

[Amanda]

It's like a part.

[Shane]

Then they punch you in the face.

[Josh]

We did have an open bottle of malort floating around. But we got married in A restaurant Malort is the worst tasting alcohol. Have you had Malort?

[Trevor]

So have you heard of it?

[Shane]

No.

[Josh]

Jepsen's Malort. Does anybody in the room know Malort?

[Shane]

That's what peasants call their king.

[Josh]

Did you drink it?

[Trevor]

No, I didn't drink it because I've already drank it. And I had multiple people at different points come up and be like, you want some alert?

[Josh]

I'm like, no, go away from Chicago. It's one of those liquors that I believe the two main flavoring agents are mugwort and wormwood, which sounds like Harry Potter.

[Shane]

Sounds like Jagermeister.

[Josh]

But imagine that mixed with just like, pure ether and, like, gasoline.

[Amanda]

Why is it a thing?

[Josh]

A friend brought it to the wedding and we just started, like, taking handle. Pulls them away. It was on New Year's Eve Eve, and I think a lot of people. Did you stay through midnight?

[Trevor]

No, no, I.

[Josh]

People got too drunk and had to leave before midnight.

[Trevor]

Yeah, no, we. We bounced early. I felt bad. Well, you came by and we were. Because it was, like, indoors, but then there was, like, this little outdoor kind of patio area. And so Raven and I, we took a break, went to sit outside, and you came by and, like, handed me a warm bottle of champagne.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Trevor]

And then you got up and walked away. And then I was like, I just have this warm bottle of champagne. And drinking champagne out of a bottle is just the worst thing.

[Josh]

Fizzes out of your mouth.

[Amanda]

It's too much.

[Trevor]

It's so awful.

[Josh]

All it does is fizz.

[Trevor]

And then. And then your brother came over, and I was talking to him for a while, and I was like, do you want the champagne? He's like, no. I was like, I don't know what to do with this. So I just set it on the ground.

[Amanda]

And then.

[Trevor]

I think you still think about that bottle of champagne. Yeah. No, I felt bad because. But I don't know.

[Josh]

I don't think.

[Trevor]

I didn't want it.

[Josh]

I don't think it was.

[Amanda]

I don't think you thought about it. I didn't remember.

[Trevor]

I was really stressed about it, so I get that.

[Amanda]

Holy shit.

[Shane]

I realized something I meant to bring up at the start of this episode is Amanda and I are doing something very fun now from here on out on the podcast, we have bingo cards.

[Amanda]

Yep.

[Shane]

So it's. This has started at the beginning of this. Right. Of just. There are things that Amanda and I tend to do. Tend to say in every episode. So Selena now has bingo cards for each of us.

[Trevor]

Oh, wow.

[Shane]

That have a bunch of Traits. And I think things have already been axed off. We're not allowed to know what's on the cards.

[Amanda]

We're not allowed to know.

[Shane]

But not specifically. No.

[Amanda]

We did like a whole. Until one of the posts about it too.

[Josh]

Oh.

[Shane]

So we're now just playing bingo. So, like, for instance, I think you mentioned the east coast at some point. That's definitely okay.

[Amanda]

That's my hometown.

[Shane]

Just. Just like little things that we do and say. So that's going to be going on in the background now from here on out on this show.

[Amanda]

Excellent.

[Shane]

Starting with this episode.

[Trevor]

Wow.

[Shane]

So I don't know. I don't know what things we. We marked off.

[Amanda]

Well, the stripper definitely wasn't on there because nobody knew about that.

[Shane]

Not mentioning barbecue sauce.

[Josh]

Thank you for opening up.

[Amanda]

You're so lucky. Welcome. I still watch the videos and cry. And I show Guardian. He was like, I don't need to see those. And I was like, but it's so funny. He's like.

[Shane]

Then he goes back to playing civ. Did he graduate from civ?

[Amanda]

So I, I up.

[Shane]

What do you mean? A couple episodes. A couple episodes back, she was talking about how my husband plays civ.

[Amanda]

But I was like, he told me that he's retiring Civilization.

[Shane]

The game Civilization.

[Amanda]

Never heard of it. You never need to worry about it because you'll get addicted. Don't.

[Shane]

Don't love Civ.

[Amanda]

So he was like, I'm gonna retire once I become immortal. And I was like, awesome. Cool. So I fucked up. I was like, hey, I went on the pod and said that you're gonna retire from civ. He's like, it's dota. I'm gonna retire from dota, babe. He wasn't even that mad at all. No way.

[Shane]

So he's still playing Civ?

[Amanda]

Yeah, he's still playing Siv.

[Shane]

He's retired. But he retired from dote.

[Amanda]

No, he hasn't become a immortal. He's busy.

[Trevor]

He's playing Dota in the year of our Lord 2025.

[Josh]

Yeah.

[Trevor]

That's incredible.

[Amanda]

Sick.

[Trevor]

He's a gamer.

[Amanda]

Eastern European. And he's a sick.

[Shane]

It's my favorite visual that you say sometimes you crack the door open and he's in there quietly speaking in Russian.

[Amanda]

Well, he has five friends from. That he met online from Ukraine and Russia and Belarus that he's speaking Russian to them all night. So sometimes I'll be in the kitchen of like. I'm like, I like how.

[Josh]

That's your.

[Shane]

I like how after being. You're married to him and that's your impression?

[Amanda]

You not learned any? No, I'm a horrible.

[Trevor]

Even there speaking Russian.

[Josh]

No, listen, I love you down. Like, do you know. No.

[Trevor]

She should have been able to say it.

[Amanda]

I have sonishka, what he calls me, which is the sun. And that's works like I. I told his mom. I was like, I gotta learn Russian. She's like, do you have to. I'm like, why? She's like, he's so hard. So don't.

[Shane]

You can't.

[Amanda]

Don't.

[Shane]

You can't do that.

[Amanda]

But he. He'll try to teach me. Here's the thing. Don't try to learn another language from your husband. Husband.

[Shane]

What?

[Amanda]

It's so I. You get so frustrated with them because he's like, no, no, no. And it's like, my mouth doesn't work like that. I didn't. But I. I'm going to. I will. I will do this. Trust me. I wake up in a panic being like, I gotta learn. Russ.

[Shane]

I really had you look at the mirror.

[Amanda]

He would kill me if he heard me say that.

[Shane]

Does he listen to the podcast ever?

[Amanda]

No.

[Shane]

Okay, good. No, that's good.

[Amanda]

We love each other. We support each other. He doesn't have to listen to everything.

[Shane]

Okay. Solid.

[Amanda]

No, I'm bad.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Amanda]

Horrible wife.

[Shane]

Before we sign off, Selena wrote down a bunch of would you rathers? Let's quickly go through them for both of us. Yeah. For that.

[Josh]

All right.

[Shane]

Okay, Here we go. Would you rather have your secret recipe leaked or never make your signature dish ever again?

[Josh]

Leak all my secret recipes, man. There's no secrets online anymore. We've created our own police state in the name of content.

[Shane]

Okay. Wow. All right. Cook based on vibes or cook based off of a recipe?

[Trevor]

Oh, surely. I always. There will be times when I choose to follow a recipe if it's something that I haven't cooked a lot. But I have so much more fun if I'm going on vibes. Vibes. So definitely on vibes.

[Josh]

I'm 100% of vibes based. I haven't cooked from an actual recipe in.

[Trevor]

I hate reading from a recipe like, it's only something if I'm like, I really don't know how to make this thing. But yeah, cooking on vibes.

[Josh]

Well, you read a recipe through and then you're like, oh, I understand, like, the technique and I understand the why. And then now you can start, like, tinkering with it.

[Shane]

Yeah, I like this one. Would you rather be vegan or gluten free? Oh, oh, oh. You're a baker. That's tough.

[Amanda]

Neither of you guys are vegan or gluten free?

[Josh]

No.

[Trevor]

No, Wouldn't say so. Ah, I think, I think I might rather be vegan.

[Amanda]

I knew you were gonna say that.

[Trevor]

I think I love sweets and desserts and bready things, like, too much. And I know that they're like, really? We've made so many advancements in the world of like gluten free technology, but it's still just like, I think I would really miss it.

[Shane]

We have a couple gluten intolerant people in our office, and so we always have gluten free options. And I'm amazed how many glute options there are out there. Yeah, they've really, really cracked the code.

[Amanda]

Crack the code.

[Josh]

I think, I think I would do. I mean, right now I do try and eat a lot of protein, but like, my actual doctor has like stopped doing that. And so eventually I do have plans to probably be something close to vegan. I think they're kind of correct about most things. Yeah. And I actually, like cooked like this crazy eight course dinner feast for vegan friend the other day. It was some of the most fun I've had. I think I would do really well at both. The entire civilizations have thrived without gluten. You know what I mean? The Mesoamericans, wheat didn't exist. You look, a lot of East Asian cultures just eat rice. And so I think I could do both really well. But for right now with protein goals, I'd rather be gluten free.

[Trevor]

Yeah.

[Josh]

Wow.

[Trevor]

It's crazy because I feel like I actually really. I don't drink milk. Like, I don't really have milk and I don't love cheese that much. The only thing that would be like, probably like a change for me is.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Trevor]

To like, not eat chicken. But even that, like, I don't eat a ton of meat. I feel like, so. And I love. I tell you what, I love, like a black bean burger.

[Josh]

Oh, yeah.

[Trevor]

Oh, I love a black bean burger.

[Josh]

I love eating meat. But like, I love. I don't know, it's just the. The world of food is just such an, like an infinite opportunity to eat delicious things. And we're talking about other cultures earlier, like, gluten free. Me and Julia were talking about this and she was like, you eat flour tortillas all the time. I was like, I would merely switch to corn.

[Amanda]

Right.

[Josh]

You know, I get the flour tortillas for you because you make case it is like, I would just do that. And I'd do it perfectly fine. And like, you've read that Brazilian cheesy bread, Bao de cajo. You know what I mean? Little popovers. Brazilian cheesy popover breads.

[Trevor]

I don't know if I have.

[Josh]

I know. That's good. You guys never been to Fogo de Cho?

[Amanda]

No, I've been once a really long time.

[Shane]

Oh, wait, I have to go give.

[Josh]

You a little roll. Anyways, the only ingredient is just. It's cassava flour. You know, fairly gluten free. I just make cassava flour everything.

[Amanda]

Oh, that sounds amazing.

[Josh]

But I understand that's like, very specific. Specific to me. Yeah, because I love cooking.

[Shane]

And last one I can think of is what. What carb would you have to eat for the rest of your life if you had to pick one? See, it's like potatoes, pasta.

[Amanda]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Shane]

What? Rice? Rice, yeah.

[Josh]

Millet, sorghum and bread.

[Shane]

Amaranth and bread. So you have to pick one. It's like, for me, I'm like, man, to go without potatoes. They every form of them are so good.

[Amanda]

Mine's bread.

[Shane]

Bread.

[Amanda]

I love bread so much.

[Trevor]

Yeah, it'd have to be bread. Potatoes would be really. That would be a really hard thing to give up. But I. I still think I'd pick bread.

[Josh]

It's my New Year's resolution to eat more potatoes this year. Cause I just. I don't like cook with them that much. I've never been. I love fries, obviously, but to me, like, almost, there's so many potato dishes that I think would be, like, better with other vegetables. But I'm trying. That's my own bias and I'm trying to get over that. But like flatbread, specifically, the best genre of food. It exists in almost every culture. Some sort of flatbread that you swipe through a spicy stew.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Josh]

And you know, that's tortillas, that's naan, that's lavash. That's even looking like Nigeria. Like, you have, like, the swallows and the stews. It's just some sort of tacky bread thing.

[Shane]

Wow.

[Amanda]

So hungry.

[Josh]

I know.

[Shane]

Well, damn. Put down below which carb you're aligned with.

[Amanda]

Put down below.

[Shane]

And keep an eye out for Survive, the Mythical kitchen Live.

[Amanda]

Yeah, we'll link it. We'll link it.

[Shane]

April 3, 7pm Absolutely. Nailed it.

[Amanda]

When are the tickets on sale?

[Trevor]

That's so cool.

[Josh]

Now the tickets are on sale now. You can go to MythicalKitchenLive.com and get your tickets. We have a really cool T shirt if you want to buy that too. It's gonna be really fun time.

[Shane]

Hell, yeah. That's so close.

[Trevor]

I can't believe it's already march. I'm freaking out.

[Amanda]

He's like, man.

[Shane]

He'S gonna break his nose.

[Josh]

And I'm wearing like a white tuxedo and I've already got. Stay. I've already got it stained during the promo shoots. It's like, we gotta figure out that.

[Amanda]

That's great.

[Trevor]

It's gonna be a good time.

[Josh]

It's gonna be a good time.

[Shane]

Well, thanks for both being here.

[Amanda]

Thanks for being here.

[Josh]

Hey, Amanda. Nice to meet you.

[Amanda]

Hey, nice to meet you.

[Josh]

This was fun.

[Amanda]

This was so, so fun.

[Josh]

You and your two other sisters.

[Amanda]

3. You and your older brother moved on.

[Josh]

I had the number three, but I couldn't remember if it was three total or three.

[Amanda]

I forgive you.

[Shane]

So embarrassing. Thank you for watching. We'll see you later. Bye.

[Josh]

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