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Shane
Hello and welcome to Smoshmouth. I'm Shane.
Amanda
Hello, I'm Amanda. And we have a wonderful guest with us today, Court.
Shane
Hi.
Amanda
I don't know why you do this
Courtney
every time you come.
Shane
Yeah, every time. We're like talking normally and then we're like, all right, we're rolling. Okay, we're intro. And then you're like, I don't know why I cannot. You cringe away. I do.
Courtney
I don't know why. Okay.
Amanda
I was watching this TikTok. Crazy of this guy just doing an impression. Yeah, crazy of this guy just doing an impression of a woman who's excited and she's just like, oh, the outrageous
Courtney
woman in the kitchen. Oh, my Christmas tree.
Amanda
That's you right now, Kourt.
Courtney
I don't know, I suddenly got the feeling of like, you know when, like when you're a kid and your parents are like, okay, Come out and show everyone your trick.
Amanda
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Courtney
I suddenly got that feeling.
Amanda
Yeah.
Courtney
So I don't know. Hi. Thanks for having me.
Amanda
Of course.
Courtney
I love being here very much.
Shane
Yeah. Cause you got to pick all the topics for this episode, Amanda and I have no idea what we're gonna talk about.
Amanda
Zero.
Shane
And you know, everything.
Courtney
And you love how you called it special interests.
Amanda
It's your special interest that does feel very parents.
Shane
Okay.
Amanda
Show everyone your special interests.
Shane
What are you into?
Courtney
Whose idea was this to put me here?
Shane
Well, we did this with Kiana a long time ago, where Kiana got to format the whole episode, and it was really fun. And then we did it with all the crew picking stuff, and so. Yeah.
Amanda
So we thought you.
Courtney
That's so nice.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
I think you. You have a lot of things that, you know, you love, and you love to talk about them.
Courtney
It was fun when. When Selena sent me a little message about it, I was like, oh, I gotta, like, write out my interests. And it was interesting to, like, dig into my own brain of, like, the things that I spend a lot of time thinking about. What do I look like my special interests are?
Amanda
Well, first of all, you look incredible. Your hair is incredible.
Courtney
Thank you.
Amanda
You look like you pay attention to detail, currently. Thank you. The jewelry, like, you're wearing all silver right now, and I saw you yesterday, and you were in your gold, so now you're in your silver, and everything's matching. Everything's connected. And the hair.
Courtney
Thank you.
Amanda
Yeah.
Courtney
I do love details. That is one of my special interests.
Shane
It is.
Courtney
Details.
Amanda
Details.
Shane
We actually brought up in last week's episode with Noah. It came up organically. We talked about burlesque.
Courtney
Oh, shit.
Shane
So I don't know if that's gonna come up later in the season. We all watch True shirt.
Amanda
I made him watch that.
Courtney
I made him watch the show.
Amanda
It's the best movie. It's the best movie on the planet.
Courtney
It's an amazing piece of work.
Amanda
You must watch it every single year. And as Shane said, that I'm essentially Cher.
Shane
You are Cher in that movie. Nop. That her song is insane.
Courtney
Oh, I'm back on my knees.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
I can't. I can't with her song. But I do love her. My club. I gotta.
Courtney
I will never, ever get rid of this club. You gotta show me you belong up there and that no one can get you off that stage.
Amanda
Tess.
Shane
Tess.
Amanda
You know all the music. You tell me which one you want to see.
Courtney
We can see the whole movie. I can't.
Shane
You guys are Just doing the entire movie right now.
Courtney
Tell me which one you want to see.
Shane
Wagger, we're watchers.
Courtney
Didn't anybody ever give you a chance? I'm dying to be up here. Just give me one chance.
Amanda
One chance. Tess.
Courtney
What's wrong with a little male attention?
Amanda
Yeah, seriously. And Kristen Bell.
Courtney
Oh, yeah.
Amanda
She's a in it.
Courtney
She's a hot bitch.
Amanda
She's a hot bitch and she gets really wasted.
Courtney
She's a hot drunk and she's like, bitch.
Amanda
She really is. God, that movie's incredible.
Courtney
How did I not know I was queer when I was watching that movie? You know, like it, like. Well, I watched that movie so many times, I was like, I just love this movie.
Shane
Well, like, why do I like this movie?
Amanda
So what does it say about me? I also love it too.
Courtney
Yeah, what does it say about you, Mindy? Give the fans
Amanda
querious. Seriously though.
Shane
Anyways, so burlesque.
Amanda
Great. We got it.
Courtney
Well, women. Speaking of women dancing.
Shane
Okay,
Courtney
Selena, I feel like you should read what I wrote for the first special interest.
Shane
Okay. We got our number one here.
Courtney
Okay.
Amanda
I've been very into looking at Sabrina Carpenter. Do I want to be her? No. Do I want to meet her?
Shane
No.
Amanda
I simply like looking sometimes even listening. But nothing else. I spend a lot of time simply looking and nothing else. Okay, okay, let's break that down.
Shane
Yeah, let's break that down, shall we?
Amanda
So you don't want to be Sabrina Carpenter?
Courtney
No.
Amanda
You don't want to meet her?
Commercial Voice
No.
Amanda
You just want to look at her? Yeah.
Courtney
Yeah.
Amanda
You know what? I fully accept that.
Courtney
Shane likes to watch football. I like to watch. I like to look at Sabrina Carpenter dancing around. Looking and looking.
Shane
Here's you, like whenever she has a music video drop, you're like, oh, we gotta watch this.
Amanda
I kind of can't take my eyes off of her though. To be. To be completely real. Like, she's so. So there's something.
Courtney
It's like magnetic.
Amanda
Yes, she's magnetic. And also like, you know, like when you see like a squishy little thing, you're just like, oh my God, you're so freaking cute. That's how I feel about her.
Courtney
People talk about how small she is. She doesn't like, I guess, cuz I'm only seeing her in my phone. She doesn't look small. She just looks like a normal woman. Yeah, but she's always so sparkly and like I can tell where she gets a lot of her inspo from. And it's all like the same shit. Like in her SNL performance where she's. She's in a bedroom and just a T shirt with a hairbrush. She does this one dance move that I talk about all the time. I literally wanted tattooed on me, which is when Cameron Diaz in Charlie's Angels is dancing in the mirror with her Spider man underwear on.
Amanda
That's the best scene.
Courtney
It's iconic. Like, that's who that is that embodies so much.
Amanda
And then the guy, like, delivers that package and she's like, oh.
Courtney
She's like, whoa.
Amanda
She's like, you can just put it in my slot. That's what she says. And the guy's like. She's like, yay. Bye. She has a retainer in, right?
Courtney
Yeah. And I can tell she. She know is Betty and Veronica, the OG Riverdale comics. Like all the. All the classic girly pop stuff of. Of like mid century modern and. And 90s and so on, but like, she just creates a silhouette and she so loves it. Yes.
Amanda
It's just. It's that feeling when you're watching like an amazing ASMR video or like, oh, someone doing like, perfect lipstick or like someone getting really excited about a color. You just feel that, like, you, like, excited, like glitter.
Shane
I think it's like, it's great to see a really great performer. Like, and she really is, like, she's hitting every mark and not. It's also with like, the expression and everything. Like, she's really in it and doing such a great job.
Amanda
She's incredible.
Courtney
And she, like, leans into the Barbie doll of it all of like, here's the outfit today on each show.
Amanda
I love that.
Courtney
So Barbie. Love it.
Amanda
So Barbie.
Courtney
Yeah. That was kind of a joke one, but it's real.
Shane
What?
Amanda
No, that one's real. That one's real for me.
Courtney
It's real for me.
Amanda
No one's asking, but is there anyone
Courtney
you like to look at? Do you like to look at anyone
Amanda
you like to look at? Butts playing football. Why do I always say butts?
Courtney
Yeah.
Shane
I'm only looking at the butts.
Courtney
I look at the butts.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
Only looking at the butts.
Amanda
Yeah. Who do you like to look at?
Courtney
Who do you like to look at?
Amanda
Shane.
Shane
I don't know.
Amanda
He's stressed out.
Shane
You're putting me on the spot.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
Sorry you had time to think about this.
Courtney
Yeah. Sorry. It's your job to be on the spot. You're on a podcast.
Amanda
Yeah. You're on a podcast. We're improvising right now.
Shane
We're literally improvising. Get up on that stage.
Courtney
Cher.
Amanda
I do love to look at Cher. I love Cher.
Shane
It is crazy, like, because I'm watching that, like burlesque, and I'm just like. She's in her, like, late 60s there. It's crazy.
Amanda
She's.
Shane
She. Yeah, she's been around forever.
Courtney
Hey, hey, relax.
Amanda
Hey, slow down.
Shane
I think it's amazing.
Amanda
Yeah, it is amazing.
Courtney
She's amazing. And she did it, too. She was like, check out this outfit today. And she claps and go down the stairs in her new outfit. Who share. When she. When she would be on stage, she'd have the. The outfit, and it would always have a reveal outfit. And she. She would take it off, and then she always claps and then goes down the stairs because she's trying to act casual about it.
Shane
Yeah.
Courtney
She goes, all right, let's go down the stairs.
Amanda
She's. She's brilliant.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
Okay, so women.
Shane
Well, women, okay.
Courtney
Sabrina Carpenter, like, scratches a brain itch. And I would never want to meet her because I simply would not know how to act. I don't want to break that.
Shane
Okay.
Courtney
Don't. No.
Amanda
Is that, like. Do you not want to meet people that you're, like, your heroes? Not saying she's your hero, but you know what I'm saying?
Courtney
I think as someone who's, like, forced to experience that early on in this career, when I had to slow dance with Chris Pratt, that's. That's. I've been through it. I've seen war.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
I've seen war in the best ways.
Courtney
In the best ways. And slow dance with it. No, it's just. I think it's, like, an attraction thing. Like, I'm gonna. It. I feel like a. I don't know how to talk. I can't even speak right now.
Amanda
I get it.
Courtney
Like, don't. We don't need to do this.
Amanda
I. It's not. It's not my same. It's not my dream to meet someone that I, like, really am into on the screen.
Shane
I think I recognize from what we do, and, like, it goes in a million ways. Right? Like, you talk about attraction, you also talk about, like, who you respect. But I'm like, what I am into isn't technically real. Like, it's a projection.
Courtney
Right.
Shane
Right.
Courtney
The idea. Yeah.
Shane
And so I'm like, I don't want to meet my heroes because I'm like, you're probably not what I think you are. And I'm inspired by what they've created. That's what I like. So I don't want to meet the real thing because I don't know who they are really. Right. Like, I think I've talked about this with when, like, we see comments and whether they're right or wrong. But when I see comments, when they're like, they're like, oh, Shane seems like a great guy. I'm like, you don't know. You don't know. Because I'm also a piece of.
Amanda
Because you're not.
Shane
Think about that. We're like, there's people that I'm like, I. I think they're incredible and I'm like, so inspired by them. But I'm like, if I met them, they may not be that. But what I am seeing is what motivates me to be better and is inspiring. And I want to hold on to that.
Amanda
Agreed.
Shane
And so I don't need more than that.
Amanda
Agreed.
Courtney
I like that. I also just like, if I there's like a hot, like, male celebrity that I wasn't married to that I like, met, like, I care about the woman's opinion of me more. Do you know what I mean?
Amanda
One thousand million percent. So a thousand guys can whatever. A thousand million percent. And here's the thing. I enjoy I married to a man. But like, a woman's opinion matters so much. Like the guy like Shane, whatever he says, I'm just like, dude, nobody cares. I bury it. I'm just like, I don't care. What you say doesn't matter.
Courtney
No, I'm just kidding.
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Did you follow the recipe?
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Shane
Right back to the shell.
Amanda
No, no, we're going. We're going back to the show.
Shane
You go ahead.
Amanda
Oh, buddy, don't do this.
Shane
I'm gonna stay here.
Amanda
All right, well, I'm heading out.
Shane
Okay.
Amanda
Gonna bring my stuff with me.
Shane
All right.
Courtney
All right.
Amanda
See ya.
Shane
See you later.
Courtney
That's not my only special interest. Ha ha. Anyways, I forget what else I put.
Amanda
I love it. I love finding new music that isn't served on TikTok or top charts. I used to treat Spotify's Discover Weekly like my fortune teller. I love music so much, how it can take our emotions by the throat in movies, music videos, or just simply the note being played. In high school, I used to spend evenings hunting through websites and forums for unique music that was usually free to download. And I would make a bunch of stuff. CDs with songs to hand out to friends. That was you. So I had friends like that who would make CDs, and I thought it was the best gift ever. Someone who can make a playlist has this, like, specific, like, creative part of their brain. Someone who makes playlists.
Shane
Like curation.
Amanda
Yeah, exactly. My friend Sam. You guys know Sam. Sam makes playlists. That's her thing. And it always tells a story. And I just. I just think it's just such an amazing way to express I. Your stuff.
Shane
I think that's a very underrated and missing element from, like, current day. I know I've talked about this, but, like, how algorithms have kind of, like, killed a lot of culture because we lack, like, curators who are, like, leading the, like, oh, here's what we should. Like, here's the good stuff to listen to. Here's all this. It's just algorithms just kind of feeding you a loop of, like, oh, this is what you listen to. So here's more of that.
Commercial Voice
Yeah.
Shane
So you're not discovering new things and it's not branching out, and it's not based on anything. It's just kind of like.
Amanda
Right.
Shane
And it's really bad for me because I'm. I'm like, Tommy, where I listen to a lot of singles.
Courtney
Yeah.
Shane
Like, and I'm not listening to an album. And so it just kind of starts giving me the same thing over and over again. So for me, a lot of times, like, for music, it's. It's been hard. So I kind of have to just go and just like, find an album and just listen to it.
Courtney
Yeah.
Amanda
Do you share your findings with him?
Courtney
Yeah, I mean, he has to. He's forced to, because, like, really good stuff. Being in the car at the same time, I'll be like, oh, I found this new one, and I crank it up to Too Loud and I love it. Yeah. Do you guys have a Discover Weekly playlist that you check on?
Amanda
Yeah.
Courtney
Yeah, one of those. I literally used to treat it like. I was like. It was like, oh, this song is telling me I should go back to my ex, like, oh, no, this song actually means. Okay, so I should actually be doing my own thing, and I really should be. Huh.
Amanda
It was like your. It was like your cards.
Courtney
Yeah, it was like your P cards for a bit. That was like 2014 era. What?
Amanda
What? What, like, new music did you just discover now?
Courtney
I've been really into Hemlock Springs, who is a super unique artist. Such good music. It's so different, so fun.
Shane
They feel like a musician's musician. Like, I bet they're respected by, like, other musicians.
Courtney
Oh, yeah. She, I think, falls into, like, a category of, like, where it's like, your favorite artist's favorite artist.
Shane
Yeah.
Courtney
As said by. And where are you finding.
Amanda
Where are you finding these?
Courtney
So I love Discover Weekly still.
Amanda
Yeah, it's.
Courtney
It's sometimes skewed. I actually had to, like, turn. I have a bunch of playlists that I use for, like, to practice singing or, like, to. To specifically help me, like, think of ideas. And I don't want them to skew my algorithm, so I have to, like, turn those off. But the Discover Weekly, I love it because it's like, it just gives me something different, even if it's not new.
Amanda
Yeah.
Courtney
And so, yeah, I'm like, Springs. I found one of her songs through that and then, like, someone mentioned her and I was like, okay, so I need to go to her artist page. I need to go to artist pages more. When. Because I'm a song by song person too.
Shane
Yeah, same.
Courtney
Yeah. Like, there. There was these websites called, like, Fresh New Tracks.
Amanda
Yep.
Courtney
Where I would just be like, you could just download some songs off there, like, and it would be artists that nobody knew. Or like, I found this one song that in 2012, I was obsessed with this song, and it was like a mega mashup of every song. And then it went viral on TikTok last year.
Amanda
Oh.
Courtney
It was validating. But I was also like, what the. I. I liked this song so Long Ago, and I felt so weird. But, yeah, it was so fun. Like, being up late in the night on my laptop and it'd be like weird songs that nobody knew and then, like, paradise by Coldplay.
Shane
Sure.
Courtney
A lot of Skrillex. I loved. I Was a dubstep girly back in the day.
Amanda
Really?
Courtney
Yeah.
Shane
That tracks.
Courtney
But it's like a sensory thing. I think dubstep is such a massage on your brain.
Shane
It really is a. A massage gun turned into a sound. It's a.
Courtney
The gun to your head.
Shane
Yeah. Truly, that's. That is a similar sound.
Courtney
Yeah.
Amanda
Wait, when you were making CDs for people. You were making them for your friends. Were they, like, catered to them? Or were they, like, songs on the CDs that you really liked that you wanted them to like as well?
Courtney
So I would. Okay, so it's a little different than what. What Sam is doing, because I love that. What I would do is be like, I have found 10 plus songs. Put them in a playlist in a way that flows. And I'd make like, I burn like 12 CDs.
Amanda
Yeah.
Courtney
And have them in a Ziploc bag. So they were. They were probably a little scratched, but. And then I would be like, do you want one? Do you want one? And then people would start going, oh, my God, I want one this week. And that was really fun.
Shane
That's awesome.
Amanda
Did you name them ever?
Courtney
I think I did. I wish. I wonder if I have any anywhere. But, like, I would just kind of draw on them or, like, write the names of the songs on it.
Shane
I miss Physical Media, man, because it was, like, special.
Amanda
The big. The big CD thing you would have in your car. And you're like, all right, what do we want to listen to?
Shane
And it was like, so precious. I remember getting in my brother's car because he would, like, I would go spend the days with him at. He was a counselor at a summer camp or like a day summer camp thing. And I'd hop in his car and he would be blasting punk rock. And like, he had his just rack of those CDs that you put on the. The mirror, the visor and the visor. And so he's just blasting, like, no effects and stuff. And. But it was just like. It's like, that's what we're listening to because that's what you have. And so like a new album comes out and it's like, oh, sweet. We have new songs.
Courtney
And so truly, when you're a younger sibling, you're at the mercy of your older siblings taste and everything. Because I would get the CDs that they were over, like, and done with. So, like, I randomly am super obsessed with this one season soundtrack of the O.C.
Shane
oh, well, because that a good.
Courtney
Just a bunch of random songs that I'm like, yeah, those songs are ingrained in my DNA.
Amanda
I mean, I loved the OC I
Shane
watched all of them.
Courtney
I need to rewatch it. I think every.
Amanda
I could be wrong, but I feel like a lot of people watched the O.C.
Shane
i didn't, but it was the biggest show.
Amanda
Or Laguna Hills.
Shane
Like, those were the shows.
Amanda
Yeah.
Courtney
And the soundtrack. California.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
Oh, yeah.
Courtney
That song rips.
Shane
That was. That was that era where California was like, people are like, that's the coolest place in the world.
Amanda
Yes, yes, yes.
Shane
California's the sickest all. Every Disney Channel TV show was in Hollywood.
Amanda
Yep.
Shane
The OC Was going. Everything was like, guys, we're all going to California.
Amanda
It felt untouched. And this magical place that you get to. It took.
Shane
It took less than 10 years. Everyone would be like, wait, that place sucks.
Courtney
Like, I need a bath just by being here.
Shane
Yeah.
Courtney
Yeah. And, yeah, with music, like, it's so cool that something that people have created and is, like, as old as people themselves, like, can affect you in a physical way. Like, make you, like, amplify a moment. Like, I once when I was in high school, I was, like, on a road trip with a friend, and I had my little ipod playing music, and I was finishing a YA novel. And this one song perfectly timed out with the ending of the book. And because of the song amplifying everything that I was reading, I was a wreck.
Amanda
Yep.
Courtney
My friend was like, are you okay in the car? As her dad's, like, driving us to whatever city. And I was just, like, sobbing, reading the end of this, like, zombie book about zombies in high school. Yeah. It's just so cool how music can do that. And, like, I think I kind of try to touch into that whenever I've directed, like, with the funeral trailer, making a music, like, special music for it.
Amanda
So good.
Courtney
Music is so important, I think, to every part of art. I think.
Amanda
I agree. Albums can be a milestone, too. I connect albums to projects that I've done or, like, big life events that I have done. And I. It's like. It's like when you taste food and you, like, have a memory of something. When I hear a song, I'm, like, brought back to that time in my life. And it's like. It's just.
Shane
It makes me think of movies and how most of the most famous quintessential movies of all time have a super recognizable score.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
How, like, score is one of the most important parts of a movie or TV show. And it's like.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
If you think about any super famous one, it's like, yeah. The song plays in your head.
Courtney
Yeah.
Shane
And if you don't have that, it's kind of hard to make a movie that really stands out. Like, truly, like, all the biggest things. Like you say if someone says Star wars, like, it plays in your head.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
If you say the Godfather, it plays in your head.
Courtney
And similarly, Like Guardians of the Galaxy. I felt like reawakened that part of movies.
Shane
Yeah, that's a good ass soundtrack so
Courtney
much because, yeah, the soundtrack soundtrack hit.
Shane
And like, yeah, a lot of movies nowadays, I think. I think it's an underrated aspect where it's just kind of all the same. And so you're watching it, you're like, why does this movie feel the exact same as all the others? The lighting. Lighting and score have been very. Just repeat, repeat, repeat, same song. So things don't stand out. But music and. And sound just impact us so much.
Courtney
Fun fact. We were gonna try and license a song for the Summer Games trailer. Like, we were trying. We were like, gonna budget it out. We like, what are the songs we'd like? We even like Crazy Frogs.
Amanda
Oh, my God.
Courtney
Like, a bunch of songs. Because we were trying to find something, like, something that was affordable in licensing that was from 2005. And it was so hard, we couldn't do it.
Shane
It's so much.
Courtney
But one day, I should have put that on the Smosh predictions. Like, we will license a song or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shane
Well, okay, so we have.
Amanda
Wow.
Shane
We have music and women, and they're kind of.
Courtney
Sabrina Carpenter embodies both.
Shane
Yeah. Literally. That makes sense.
Courtney
Yeah. What's next? What's next?
Amanda
Makeup. Even though I feel I've perfected my makeup routine for shoot days, I still love learning the newest tips and tricks. I used to do SFX makeup. Before Smosh.
Courtney
That's right. Yes.
Amanda
Yes. Okay. Makeup, Makeup. You are incredible at makeup.
Courtney
Thank you.
Amanda
And you also are always learning.
Courtney
And then you used to do special effects makeup. Yeah.
Amanda
So before Smosh.
Courtney
Before Smosh, I. For like a year, like, end of high school, and then helping college students in their, like, films and stuff, I got really into bruising was like, the first thing I got really into.
Amanda
Oh, cool.
Courtney
And then I. I painted a face to be dead and their eyes were burned out for, like, a college student film.
Shane
Whoa.
Amanda
I find that to be so fascinating. Simply, like, bruising cuts.
Shane
Like, it's incredible.
Amanda
It's crazy. But, like, it's so. It's so mad. It's so cool. What I love can do.
Courtney
It's like the face is the canvas. Just like Cher says in. In. In burlesque, you're. You're painting a face. But yeah, like, there was. I think I've told this story before, but, like, I worked for this music video production company for a few months, and then Olivia was like, hey, do you want to audition for Smosh? And I Was like, see ya. But in those few months, there was one music video. It was Soulja Boy. I think the song was designer. And I paint a broken nose on Logan Paul, who now gets broken noses all the time. Maybe.
Shane
Yeah.
Courtney
But, yeah, and it's like, that's still on YouTube. And I was really proud of that broken nose. It looked really good. So I covered my mouth as I'm talking into the mic. But, yeah, and that was really fun. And I, like, did a lot of practicing on myself, but I was really bad at regular makeup back then. Like, I was mostly special effects, and then this music video production company would, like, have me come in, and I did not have shade range. And so, like, I, like, it was not good. I think I talked about this on another podcast. But, like, I had, like, two shades of foundation because it was, like, my shade that I just, like, bought when I. And, like, had extra of. And, like, there was people of color on the. On these sets that I was like, I'll do my best, and had bronzer. And it was just, like. So I was. I think I was, like, 18. And it was such a wild experience. But it was because we don't have, like, or, like, definitely. When we first started, me and Olivia at Smosh, we didn't have a makeup artist for, like, Smosh second channel, which is now Smosh Pit. And so I was like, okay, I'm gonna learn how to get good at makeup. And so, like, it's so crazy, like, how much of a science it is. Like, oh, such a science. You're like, making a cake every time. Like, this exact amount. How long you let it sit, let it rest.
Amanda
Color correcting different shades for different people. Tones. Cool and warm tones. Like, I still feel like I'm scratching the surface of makeup still. Sometimes I'll go and I'll be like, oh. I'll be like, oh, this color doesn't look good on me. And a makeup artist will be like, have you what? Yeah, let's try that. Cause, like, for me, I have very specific colors that don't look good on me. And it's like, pinks. Like, light pinks don't really look good on me. And, like, cherry red. So, like, light pink. Cherry red. Like, yeah, those colors just don't. Don't look good on me.
Courtney
No. I think when I first started getting my makeup done in Sacramento on sketch, I was getting told that my. They're like, oh, well, your skin tone, you need, like, warm tone foundation. So I was, like, getting yellow. Oh, no, no Undertone. And it didn't work. I mean, I'm like, a neutral, maybe slightly cool tone, but it's also crazy how, like, where you put blush on your face completely changes the depth and shape of your face. Like, and I finally have found the color blush, and I'm like, this is my color. And, like, yeah. And it's so funny, like, the things that we don't think about when, like, I think someone here the other day asked me, like, hey, like, I'm trying to figure out, like, where to put my. Like, this. This contour, this bronzer. And I was like, okay, well, what are you trying to highlight? And they were like, what? It's like, because every face is custom. It's not like you just slap it on. It's like, are you trying to accentuate your cheekbones? Are you trying to reduce the depth of your cheekbones? Like, everybody has different goals for their face. It's like, oh, do you want something to do that's easy? Do you want to have something you never have to touch again throughout the day? Like, I love that it's, like, such a custom skill that you're not just learning a skill. You're learning your face and how to do it with yourself, and then to do it on another person is, like, also so hard. Like, I've done. I've done people's makeup on Smosh so many times. It's not. It's hard as hell.
Amanda
Yeah, I. I. I used to. I used to do, like, some friends makeup, but I'll do, like, my mom's, but I don't. I just. I'm just, like. I've just decided that that's not the route I'm gonna go. I want to just try my own, but my friends and I have this, like, back and forth thing. So when my friend really, really loves makeup and she discovers all these new makeups, so she'll, like, do, like, a trial run and put it on, not post it, just send it to, like, us on this group text. And it's. It helps me learn so much about her face, but also, like, what might look good on me. And there's, like, a thousand products, so it's almost like you're getting product reviews, because at first I was like, oh, yeah, you just get one line of products.
Courtney
Yeah.
Amanda
No, no, no.
Shane
Mix and match.
Courtney
I love your eyeliner today, by the way. I love the color shift in it.
Amanda
Yes. It shifts.
Courtney
Yes, it does.
Amanda
It, like, changes colors. And I'm obsessed with these liners because they pop the best outside.
Courtney
Ooh.
Amanda
They pop the best in like nature, which is like, we're not filming outside. But for me, for me, a big, A big deal for me is like, I like makeup. Yes. That you can wear all day, but if you're outside and it looks crazy, I'm not interested. I do not livable. I want it to be livable. I do not like, like crusted over full coverage. Yes. I don't, I don't enjoy it. I don't feel good in it. I want to take it off immediately.
Courtney
I was a 2016 full coverage baddie. I had it on. I was caked up.
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Courtney
And then just gradually use less and less because. Because I had really bad acne back in the day and so I was learning how you like, cover that shit up.
Amanda
Yeah. Right.
Courtney
And yeah. That's. I've gotten older and I guess that the acne kind of just goes away or at least it feels like it has at a certain.
Shane
For some people.
Courtney
For some people. But what was going to say, oh, have you heard of pre shower makeup?
Amanda
No.
Courtney
You got to get into pre shower makeup.
Amanda
Tell me.
Courtney
Pre shower makeup is when you're organizing your vanity or going through your makeup bag or whatever and you got products. You're like, oh, I forgot I have this bright purple lip liner. What's this look like again? Oh, yeah, let's put that on. Okay. Oh, I forgot I have this blue eyeshadow. How I haven't even tried that. I should just put that on. You just try all your crazy before and then you're like, well, I'll go get in the shower. It's gone. But it's pre shower makeup. It's huge on Tick tock.
Shane
Oh, you're just trying things out.
Amanda
You're trying things out and then you
Shane
take a shower and wash. You could also experiment.
Courtney
Yeah. Like if you know you're going to be taking a shower, you could go just like fuck around, play around.
Amanda
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense.
Shane
It really is like an art form for you. Like you, you. It's like a true hobby for you.
Courtney
It's really fun. I think I joke about this where it's like, oh, thank you. It's the only thing in my life I can control.
Amanda
You said that. And that has stuck with me forever because I, I'm kind of with you on that.
Courtney
I also think, I don't think people clock it within themselves. Like if you do makeup, if you spend time doing your makeup or doing your hair, you actually have a lot more meditative time in your day more than a lot of people do. That don't do those things and like because I don't sometimes I don't put videos on or music or anything and I'm just like with myself and my thoughts doing my makeup. But like that's important time that I am like taking for granted, not even realizing how I have that.
Amanda
It's actually my favorite time. That's why I don't, I don't come here and do my makeup here. I love doing my makeup at home. I do it like an hour before I do all my makeup and it's like sometimes I'll listen to music, sometimes I'll listen to like my book or like a podcast or whatever or, or it's just dead ass silent.
Courtney
It's just non verbal time.
Amanda
Yes. And then you're like enjoying and you're getting ready and then it's just like from then on it's just chaos.
Shane
I have a lot of respect for it, you know, and there was, I think there's a lot of narratives about fashion and makeup and stuff as being
Courtney
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Shane
you know, covering up insecurity or just vanity. And I think what I really see it as with so many is just truly honest expression. Right. Like, it's a form of communication to express who you are, like, and to communicate who you are. And that goes to so many different things. But I think I've really appreciated that with, like, style and stuff, you know? And I used to dress fully out of insecurity, like, trying to just cover up.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
Everything. Where. But now I'm like, it's so cool to see, like, there's ways to, like, tell people who you are through how you dress and being proud of who you are and, like, trying new things and stuff. And I think that's really interesting, and I really love it. So. And I see that, like, I think with. With makeup, especially nowadays, like, it's. It's kind of this way to communicate confidence and communicate, like, hey, this is who I am, and I'm proud of being who I am. And I think that's really interesting and,
Amanda
like, an expression, too, of. Of. I was talking to Court about this yesterday. Just, like, you wake up and you. I don't know. I feel different every day when I wake up, so sometimes I want to be more femme. Sometimes I want to be more, like, more aggressive.
Shane
Sarah Christ.
Amanda
More Sarah Christ. Well, I always want to be Sarah Christ. But, like, that. That's. That. That's in my makeup. Sometimes I want to have more fun. Sometimes I want to be playful. Sometimes I want to be, like, clean face.
Shane
Right.
Amanda
And I feel like it's the best way to express yourself. You feel, like, cozy in your body when you're able to put on the clothes that you want and the makeup that you want and.
Shane
Right.
Amanda
Yeah.
Courtney
You guys have seen me through some eras.
Shane
Yeah. It's crazy. Like, it's crazy to look back. It's. It's crazy to look back on so many, like, eight years ago, watch videos. Just, like, it's just interesting. Like, you've. You've really, like, evolved.
Courtney
Yeah. I feel like I'm boring now, but it's, like, zero. It's, like, simple.
Amanda
I completely disagree. I feel like you. You have refined, refined, refined, and you're, like. You're popping.
Shane
I don't think interesting always relates to just complicated or big. Like, I think there's ways to be really interesting in very subtle ways.
Courtney
Thank you, guys.
Amanda
You're so welcome.
Shane
Okay. Music, makeup, women.
Courtney
Music, makeup, women.
Amanda
Wow.
Courtney
We've been in a very femme territory.
Amanda
Music, makeup, women. What else? The idea of being small and interacting with food.
Courtney
Oh, yes.
Shane
Okay. The culinary crimes clip.
Courtney
Interacting with food. Not culinary crimes. I first talked about this in a games video when we were playing a card game that we were talking. You shush.
Amanda
You.
Courtney
No, I'm just.
Amanda
How dare you?
Courtney
You guys ever would want to be small and be interacting with food? We talked about this.
Amanda
Explain this to me.
Courtney
Hour on Smosh Games. Imagine you are six inches tall, and there's a cold jar of pickles. Spear. Pickle spears. And you climb up, and. And it's cold and crisp. And you get in, and your arms are out on the sides like it's a Jacuzzi, and it's cold and it smells good. And you bite. Bite one of them on just the tip of it.
Shane
Yeah. Do I want to get in a bath of vinegar?
Amanda
Yeah.
Courtney
Mmm.
Amanda
You know what?
Shane
No.
Amanda
It's like that feeling when you go.
Shane
That would be awful.
Amanda
When you go to museum. Just real little. And there's, like, large cups. There's like, large, like, coffee cups. And you go to museum, and you're like, I'm so tiny. Look at that big cup of coffee.
Courtney
This is real. And so. But imagine being in the pickle jar, and then you dip your head down
Shane
and you go, nobody can be mad at me. I'm so tiny.
Courtney
I'm so tiny. And then you get out of the pickle jar, you dry yourself off, and then. And then you go roll around on a sour cream and onion pringle.
Shane
What?
Amanda
What? Okay, you had me, and now I'm gone.
Courtney
Oh, my gosh. And then you go. And you just lick the sour cream and onion pringle. And there's so much of the flavor powder on the pringle.
Shane
I think. I think this would not turn out how you want it to turn out. The texture would be so different. Because when you're that small, those salt crystals. Gigantic. No, they're huge. They're, like, the size. They're, like, gonna be this big.
Courtney
You underestimate me, Shane.
Amanda
Hey, you guys could do this if you want. You could get a big thing of vinegar. No, no, no. Shove Courtney in the vinegar and then take her out and roll our bathtub.
Shane
We'll fill our bathtub with vinegar, be
Courtney
around the pickles and. Okay, guys, I talked about this. Okay? Imagine. Okay, hold on. Imagine there's a lovely, lovely piece of garlic bread in front of you, and it's this big in front of you. You can't even, like, gutter it. Like, bumper it with your hands. You can't even. So big. Take a big Bite of that bread. A big bite. And then slam your head against it. Also slam your head against the garlic bread. So much flavor. Smells so good, and there's so much of it. And then you can take a nap on it. I don't.
Shane
I'm not gonna take a greasy nap.
Amanda
Yeah. Yeah. Are you wearing clothes?
Shane
Greasy, cheesy nap.
Amanda
You're small, so your naked little bodies. A loaf.
Courtney
They cut a loaf of sourdough bread in half, and they prop it up, and you get up in, and you start digging with your hands. And it smells so good.
Shane
You just want to be a mouse really bad.
Courtney
And what's wrong with that?
Shane
No, this is what it's like to be a mouse.
Courtney
Threw Swiss cheese and climbed bubble and bite it and hit my head against it.
Amanda
I think I know, like, what Kurt's next birthday is.
Shane
We just make things big. We got to make some big Charlie
Courtney
in the chocolate factory. To be real.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
Honestly, we wrap, we go, good night, Courtney. And it's just a sub roll. And we're just like, good night, Courtney.
Courtney
Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. Get out of the shower. And then a fruit. The fruit roll up. The big one. The. The. The wide one. Wrap it around me. So sweet and smelling so good. And then bite it and bite it. And I get the tattoo on me from the fruit roll up, and it's big on me.
Shane
You wear it like a dress.
Courtney
It's like a dress. Yes. Oh, my God. Fruit roll up dress.
Amanda
I am so into this because I'm just. It's such a surprise for me.
Courtney
Take a nap in a hot dog bun.
Amanda
Do you feel this?
Courtney
No slap.
Shane
No Food is, you know, the ideal size because we've made food the ideal size for us.
Courtney
You come across a hot dog, you are.
Shane
In fact, I think our portions are too big.
Courtney
Smacking a hot dog wiener. Smacking it with your hand. Slapping the hot dog wiener really hard with your hand, smelling it and then taking a bite. And I got it. As much ketchup and mustard as you want, because it's not that much for you.
Amanda
I got it. First of all, I'm visually picturing all of this. Like, Courtney on top of a hot
Shane
dog bun would be like, this is just the plot.
Courtney
I'm small. I'm small. I'm so, so small.
Shane
This is just the plot. This is just ratatouille.
Amanda
No, no, Courtney. This is how they connect with things. They need to touch them. I do feel the texture. They need to do a couple little hits, little slaps, little. They need To. They need to wrap. They need to envelop in the texture of something to connect with it.
Courtney
A jar of salsa. Sit in the jar of salsa and then. And slap your arms on it. Splash around, but it be me. And then someone puts tomato.
Shane
That's gonna burn.
Courtney
And then someone puts a chip in the. In the salsa. And then I climb up the chip, and you go, whoa.
Shane
You want to skimboard across it. You get on a tortilla chip and.
Courtney
Oh, oh. And my favorite one that I said, jelly donut. Jelly donut. No, open on one side where the jelly is because they injected the jelly. Put your feet in. Pull yourself in so your head is sticking out of the jelly donut. The listeners know that is actually.
Shane
I don't think they do that.
Amanda
I'm in it.
Shane
It smells so good. Someone is actively throwing up on their commute.
Amanda
No, I think. I think there are gonna be a lot of people who go, yes, yes, yes. But the. I was like, kind of. I was kind of with you. But the jelly part. I don't like things that can be. You can take a bath, and the
Courtney
bath is also small. And it's tea. And the tea bag, you can sit on it, and you scrub, scrub. And you could, like, use a broccoli as a loofah.
Amanda
And
Courtney
you cut a cherry tomato in half.
Amanda
Did you know this?
Courtney
Put the other side on your head as a hat and imagine peas. I've said this on the video too. Peas in your hand. So big. Eat it.
Shane
These are all like. This is all cartoons from, like, the 40s.
Courtney
Peas in your hand. So big.
Amanda
Eat it.
Courtney
Our life is so simple.
Amanda
Wow.
Shane
I think mice would tell you life is not so simple being that small.
Amanda
No. I think mice would be like, get in here, girl.
Courtney
This is a controlled setting. I am safe.
Amanda
You are so safe. You're not a mouse. This is. I literally picture you in a white room with all this stuff, and you're like. And then you go into all these things and you eat peas and you
Courtney
eat corn on the cob. Oh, my gosh. Lay on the hot butter melted on the corn on the cob. Pluck one corn fromst.
Amanda
The.
Courtney
The shuck.
Amanda
I love that you just let me. I love that, Shane. Just let me logicalize whatever the that word is. I love that Shane just let me kind of, like, understand it.
Courtney
And his face was like, you're shaking your head at me.
Shane
No, I get it.
Amanda
Do you? No, you don't. I don't. I don't, actually. No, you don't.
Shane
I don't no, you don't. Me, who doesn't put sauce on anything?
Courtney
You don't.
Shane
I do sometimes.
Amanda
You don't put sauce.
Shane
I put sauce on things available. Oh, it's because I'm lazy, Shane.
Amanda
Is it?
Shane
It's because I'm lazy. But if sauces are available, I will deck a hot dog.
Courtney
I'm lazy, so I just deny myself
Shane
happiness on a regular basis?
Courtney
No, we go to the movie theater, we get hot dogs.
Shane
I will also get whatever on anything.
Amanda
Huh.
Shane
I'm down to go hardcore too.
Courtney
Okay, so Shane is here.
Amanda
She's about to dump his whole body into a donut. All right, keep going.
Courtney
Mustard packet. I sit on it and launch someone else if they want.
Shane
Oh, you're talking like one of those. One of those, like, things on a lake. You see someone get launched and you don't see them come back down.
Courtney
Yeah, but. But no, Shane, we get, we get hot dogs at the movie theater. He eat that shit plain.
Shane
Yeah. Cause I, that. What? It's just like, it's.
Courtney
Why get a hot dog?
Shane
I'm just like, I'm not gonna unwrap this here and then rewrap it.
Amanda
Are you joking?
Shane
But if I'm out on the street and if I'm, like, in another place and I'm like, hey, load it up. Onions, relish.
Amanda
It's actually crazy that you're eating a dry hot dog in the movie theater.
Shane
I'll eat a dry hot dog.
Amanda
That's actually, I will.
Shane
But I also will get it loaded with everything. I'll eat a hot dog with anything.
Amanda
No wonder why Courtney's fantasizing about jumping into a thing of sal Salsa is because you're bland as f. Our fridge is stocked.
Shane
I'm easy to please, but I also will go hardcore. I will eat anything. You know that I will also. You know that I will also eat anything, guys.
Courtney
Yeah, that is true. But it's like, why just be happy with. Be happy. Make your food be happy.
Shane
I, I, I'm fine with a hot dog. The dog itself tastes so delicious. I don't need sauces on it for it to be good.
Courtney
A movie theater hot dog is so good.
Shane
They're actually pretty good. No, sometimes the cheapest of hot dogs are the best.
Amanda
Wait, what's your. What's your gu. If you could only have one sauce forever, what would it be? Oof.
Courtney
Oof, Oof.
Shane
Well, for everything.
Amanda
Yeah, that's what I said. You have to decide.
Shane
Damn, dude.
Courtney
Maybe soy sauce.
Amanda
Well, this is my world.
Courtney
Soy sauce. What are you Going to pick soy sauce or mustard.
Shane
A barbecue sauce could be a good pick because I'm like, it's kind of good on everything. Like a tangy barbecue sauce.
Courtney
You love barbecue sauce. Yes.
Shane
That could work on a hot dog. Oh, what are you talking about? Why would it not. Why would it not work on a hot dog?
Amanda
Honestly, I think like a. I think like a grain mustard.
Shane
That's actually not a bad pick.
Amanda
I think a grain mustard mustard, about
Shane
like a type of like. Like a honey mustard could also work. Or a Dijon. Are you saying. See, here I am whole grain. Talking about sauces.
Amanda
Yeah, but you.
Shane
I clearly. I clearly know ball. I am a ball knower when it comes to sauces.
Courtney
Ball knower is a what?
Shane
Guy who's just watched heated rivalry. Ball knower.
Amanda
Ball knower. God, you're dumb.
Courtney
Pov. You're a ball knower.
Shane
So dumb. Ball knower. Ball knowledge.
Amanda
Shane has watched. He did rivalry. You have not.
Courtney
You watched it all?
Shane
Not all of it. One episode.
Courtney
I will eventually watch it.
Shane
What? All of it.
Courtney
I have a abstained. I have. I am heated rivalry celibate voluntarily. Because our audience. You guys. You guys have been so intense at me on social media about watching it.
Shane
People have been very intense about it
Courtney
that I'm like, great, good job. Congratulations. I'm never watching it now. Yeah, maybe. Maybe one day you can watch it. Our girl Nicole Rafi did a video on, like, the Chronically Online girl explains. He did rivalry lore. She doesn't explain the whole show, but she talks about all the culture surrounding it. Oh, I love her so much. So I was like, okay, maybe I will watch it because of her, but
Amanda
not because of your ball knower husband.
Courtney
So that's my food interest.
Amanda
Wow.
Shane
It's a very specific one. I now I think you need to draw, guys. Draw some fan art of Courtney. Tiny.
Amanda
Yes.
Shane
In food.
Amanda
That's what I want to see. I want to see Courtney in a salsa jar. I also want to see her with a cherry sauce in a pickle jar, swimming, splashing. And I want to see Shane with a dry hot dog sitting sad somewhere.
Shane
Give me the, like, sad Keanu treatment. Me just with a hot dog. Just like.
Amanda
And you know what he said? He was like, I was just really hungry, guys. I wasn't even sad.
Shane
He's chilling, man. All right, what else? What's next?
Amanda
Switching it up a little bit. I watch a lot of commentary. YouTubers cover TikTok creators who pretend to have DID. It is surprising how many do it and why they do it.
Commercial Voice
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Courtney
Yeah. So there's plain. So there's. I have like, there's a couple commentary youtubers who cover this weird niche subject which is like, there, there has been like a several year span where TikTok creators are pretending to have DID, which is dissociative identity disorder, a very real thing that. I think they call it something else now because it became so notoriously a problem of people being falsely diagnosed or pretending to be diagnosed. And like, these are. There are so many TikTok creators that would be live or are just posting videos. Almost like they're pretending they have a whole cast of people living within one body.
Amanda
What?
Courtney
And I. And one of the creators that I watch a lot of her stuff, she. I think it's her roommate who actually has it and who's very educated and therapized in it. And like, like, so she. This, this creator, Michelle Mana, will like, educate you on the disorder while also, like, talking about these creators. And she does it in a great way where she's not like, saying this person's a liar and a terrible person and they're wrong, which will be like, hey, this is rare that this can happen, but it's highly unlikely that it happens like this where, like, there's. There's creators that they'll be like, yeah, I'm going to film every time I switch. Each person that I switch to is gonna record and be like, hey, what's up? It's trevor and it's 12pm Then it's
Amanda
like, hey, what's up?
Courtney
This is RUHN and it's 3pm and whoa. They have an entire TikTok account, like, about all the people that are within this system, which is what people consider the multiple identities within one disorder. It's so interesting. I know, it's an intense thing.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
But you're watching, you're watching.
Courtney
I'm watching commentary cover how someone, like, was making lots of videos doing this and then getting caught with a fake diagnosis. Like, they'll. They will forge a, like, paper that says they have all these disorders that's like, you clearly photoshopped and used like, the logo that's like, not the proper logo for the hospital and things like that. And it's like they're kind of exposing
Amanda
them a little bit.
Courtney
Yeah. And people let me know in the comments if, like, you've seen this stuff. Like, there's just a lot of people on Tick Tock who pretend to have that. And like, there was a whole wave of creators pretending to have Tourette's. Yeah, that Was wild and making it a comedy.
Shane
Like it's.
Courtney
It is like taking this very real thing that is. Makes that people struggle with and. And are like dealing with in real life and making it like a funny
Shane
bit kind of fetishizing it. Yeah, well, what also the problem is, we live in an era where attention is monetized so easily. So it's like, oh, if I can fake this and make money off of it very easily, they're selling merchants there. If you're getting money off these live streams, like, people will do anything.
Amanda
Oh, yeah.
Shane
I mean, I see this a lot. What I. What I. Infuriates me, funny enough is, is rage bait. Right? Like, people who purely just make fake things, fake dilemmas, fake takes, fake hot takes and stuff just to piss everyone off so they get more viewers. You see this a lot with Jubilee, right? Like, I. I'll say it out outwardly, like, I think Jubilee is absolute dog for what they're doing. And it's just like. Like they're purely just making stuff that makes people angry, so they comment on it, upset, and it does nothing. It only makes the world worse. But it gets more attention. But in a flip side way, like with people faking, people are willing to go to such extremes and fake all sorts of shit. And maybe with some of these people, maybe there's a kernel of truth to it, but the exaggeration and it's like, I don't know, I get really frustrated because, you know, I still have a very limited understanding of psychology and what people go through. But. But when people talk about it, it's like all cutesy and stuff with, like, did. And I'm just like, these are responses to horrific trauma. This is. This is not fun. This is. This is a real thing that people deal with and it is brutal and it makes life really, really hard. And for these people to go out and fake it then makes it only harder for those people.
Amanda
Who. Who is. Are people, like, going and watching all their videos and then like. Like uncovering things and then calling them out and exposing them.
Courtney
Yeah. So these. So I think if you. If people want to check it out for themselves. Michelle Mana is one creator who covers it where it's like, it's not just like, oh, this creator is doing this right now. It's like, here's the rise and fall of this creator doing all this and then disappearing from the Internet when they got caught. Because there's. There will be likely a subreddit of people talking about it. A lot of people who actually have this disorder Talking about, like, hey, this person made a video about how one alter wanted to surprise another alter with a cake. And it's like, it's really. The stuff is not likely to happen.
Amanda
It's going to the extreme.
Shane
The problem too is like, you know, even after getting a degree in psychology, I know barely anything about DID and the average person, complicated. The average person doesn't know much. All they know is from what they learn on the Internet. So it's easy to fake it and go, this is what's real. And everyone going, oh, I guess. I guess so. I guess this is real. It's easy to trick people with that.
Courtney
Even the most convincing creators online have been considered to, like, potentially. It's, it's, it's sad because when there's people faking something like this, that is a very real thing. It, it ruins the experience. It takes the wind out of the sails for real people who are trying to educate others and help other people learn about it. It's, it's wild. There's like so many.
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Amanda
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Shane
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Courtney
Actually, I think we can.
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Courtney
Creators. Like, TikTok was filled with creators faking this stuff.
Shane
Yeah.
Courtney
And it's just so interesting, the, like, mental process of that of, like, creating. Like, there's some ones that were, like, really bad faking, like, really bad. Like, this is not. This is not even close. You can't even consider this to be real, where it's like, like we're. We're wearing wigs for different altars and things and doing makeup and. And all this stuff. And like, some. Some people might do that in some rare cases. But, like, it's just very intense and it feels like we're cosplaying at a certain point. So I just think it's so interesting. She'll. She'll break it down. This one creator will break it down how these people on TikTok are doing this and educate you on how that is or is not likely. And I just think it's fascinating what people do on social media to get attention.
Shane
It's, It's. It's important, especially now more than ever with AI and everything is to just, like, be wary of everything you watch. Like, to kind of just always take that second to be like, is this.
Amanda
And what. I think it is also, like, the truth always comes out. Remember that apple cider vinegar woman?
Courtney
Did she get really small and sit into the vinegar?
Amanda
No, I wish she did.
Shane
Just turns out she was in that and she died.
Amanda
No, she. She, like, claimed that. That she had cancer and then created a cookbook and was like, I ate all these foods, and every single time I went to get checked out, my. My cancer started to, like, disappear and go away.
Courtney
Yeah, she was so.
Amanda
All these people were like, aggressively following this. But then she would post photos of her in the hospital being like, chemo day two, and they're like, why does she look so good? Like, I had this part of my, you know, neck taken out and I had my hair falling out. So, like, people were comparing themselves.
Courtney
That's.
Amanda
And she got so far into the lie that she was like, no, I have cancer. And it was like, you actually don't have cancer. You lied. Yeah, but I think. I think some people. I don't know if this is true, but, like, people want to feel like they belong and belonging to something where there is a lot of attention given is what they go for. It's not right. But I think there's a small part of them that just feels like they want to belong.
Shane
The lengths people will go for It. Everybody knows someone who will go to great lengths for attention.
Amanda
Right.
Shane
You add social media, you add the ability to make money off of lies, and it's rampant. I mean, we've seen. There's a million. There's literally just careers right now that are just people who lie and will destroy society in the process. And they don't give a shit. They're just. They're making money off it. People are making a lot of money off just lying.
Amanda
It's wild.
Shane
It sucks. We've really seen the return of snake oil. Sales salesman on social media.
Courtney
Oh, yeah.
Shane
It's every day. Every day on. I boot up some social media platform and I'm being told something brand new, some new product, and I'm just like, I don't buy it because another month will go by and it's gonna be some other thing.
Amanda
Yeah.
Shane
And I'm like, I wish miracles, like, this existed.
Amanda
I know. But you know what I. You know what I love out of this is, like, people getting to be these, like, mini reporters where. Whether. Whether, like, like, they. I mean, it's. There's bias always in the news and always in reporting. But, like, I love this idea that, like, there's like, many reporters that are able to, like, give commentary, but it's very clear that it's from them. They're not coming from, like, a company.
Courtney
It's like personal channel.
Shane
It's just wild west. It sucks.
Courtney
It's the wild west. But I. I do have so much respect for people who do journalism on social media. Like, even if it's, like, in the niche corners of the Internet, like, I think it's so cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's that very specific women makeup.
Shane
Being tiny.
Amanda
Being tiny.
Shane
Food and lies and then lies. People getting caught in lies.
Amanda
People getting caught in lies.
Shane
People getting caught in lies is. Is very satisfying because I hate liars. And so seeing someone get caught, it
Amanda
kind of makes me feel a little cringed. Like, like secondhand Korean.
Shane
It's tough.
Amanda
I don't enjoy that.
Shane
Try. Oh. In true crime documentaries, when someone gets caught in that moment and they're, like, trying to scramble, they don't know how to be. Stuff's rough.
Amanda
Yep. What's next? The game 2048.
Courtney
Yes. So what, y' all know the game 2048?
Amanda
Nope.
Shane
You. You will know. You played a game similar to it probably at some point.
Courtney
It's a very, very old mobile game that I downloaded a few months ago for the first time in years, and I was like, is it the same? And it's exactly the same. It's even, like, pretty much ad free until you die. And then one ad and then you just close the app and open it up again and the ad is gone. But it's. I. I showed it to you when we were at your house the other day, and you were like, oh, h should play this game.
Amanda
Oh, let me see.
Courtney
Sorry. I was looking at the mythical essentials line earlier.
Amanda
How old is 24? Oh, yes. You were showing me this. And what's the goal of the game again?
Courtney
So you're sliding numbers to stack them and double them. So twos can only stack with twos. Fours can stack with fours. And so. And then you get the numbers get bigger and bigger to, like, 128, 256, and 512. Yeah, I'm severance.
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Shane
Show the camera. It's literally a severance minigame.
Courtney
It very much.
Shane
Yeah. I will every now and then look over, and Courtney's just.
Courtney
But I love it because it's. It's like organizing. It's like, almost like ASMR in that sense. But also it's like the one game that I can play while having an active conversation with somebody. And what I just think. I, I.
Amanda
Everything you're saying, I'm just. I'm picturing Shane, like, chatting with you,
Shane
and you're like, this is. This is what Balatro is for me. I play Balatro on my phone.
Courtney
Yeah.
Shane
And I love it.
Courtney
If I need to, like, figure out something and, like, think about how I need to address something, I will be sitting and playing this and scheming while playing this game. I don't know why. It's just like, it's like an organizing game. So it's like I'm organizing my thoughts while I'm playing the game. Like, I. I had this. What was I trying to find fixed the other day? And I was like, oh, I think I know how to fix that thing. Oh, I had a. I had a sweatshirt that's one of those dual zipper sweatshirts that can, like, zip both ways. And one of the zippers, when I opened the package of the sweatshirt, the zipper was broken off. And I was like, I need to fix this. Tried to fix it. Then I had to go to the gym. And then I was, like, in between sets at the gym playing 2048. And then I, like, was thinking about the sweatshirt, and I was like, oh,
Amanda
I think this was.
Courtney
Is a way that I will be able to fix it.
Amanda
Whoa.
Courtney
So then when I got home from the gym, I, like, tried it, and it didn't work, and I returned this one.
Shane
This makes me think of bad ideas, but it's.
Courtney
I be scheming and, like, thinking with this app where it's like, ooh, how do I want to go about this conversation later today? And, like, be thinking about what I want to say, like, just kind of organizing my thoughts while playing this game.
Amanda
You're a problem solver.
Courtney
You need.
Amanda
You need to be doing a physical activity to figure out the problem that you're trying to solve.
Shane
I get that.
Courtney
It's good. It's good. And the leaderboard is insane. Oh, yeah, the leaderboard. The top number that you can get in in this game, global top score, is 10 million. 10 million is the number one score. My high score.
Amanda
How many hours do you have to be on that to get to 10 million?
Courtney
I don't know. I truly don't know. And I sometimes, like, wonder if there's more that I need to know about the game of, like, why numbers show up.
Shane
There's probably an algorithm.
Courtney
A new number shows up. It's usually a 2, but sometimes it's a 4. And I don't know why, but I need to figure that out. But my high score is 35,476.
Shane
This is really good.
Amanda
Wow.
Courtney
And it's like achieving a tile. So when numbers stack, like, it has to be 16 with 16, so it's like, oh, it's like multiples of eight usually. And then each time it doubles. And so, like, there's the. So I said 128 tile stacks into 256 tile stacks into 512. And then it's like the. The 1024. And then it's called 2048 because, like, that's like, you won. You did it. You got to the 2048 tile. But now at the top, it says your next goal is to get the 4096 tile. I've never gotten that tile, but I've.
Shane
I've damned.
Courtney
It's been months, and I can't beat my high score.
Amanda
My brain's like, what's happening to your phone while you're playing this?
Shane
Nothing. That's. That's a simple little game.
Courtney
I think it's trying to take my data.
Amanda
That's what I.
Courtney
But I turned off some. Some features that it had. But it is. It is odd.
Shane
What data is it getting from you?
Courtney
How much I love numbers. Has no text messages.
Shane
You. You. All a sudden, the CIA shows up, and their makeup is impeccable.
Amanda
They're like. They're Like, I want to jump into a jar of pickles.
Courtney
I also think it's messed up when any app doesn't have the time showing in the corner.
Shane
Yeah, they don't want you to know that.
Courtney
Pretty messed up when they hide the clock.
Shane
They don't want you to know, like,
Courtney
what are you doing?
Shane
Stay there forever.
Amanda
What does it say about me that that stresses me out?
Courtney
It stresses me out too. Doesn't stop me, though.
Amanda
All of it. Yeah, all of it stresses me out.
Shane
The numbers I used to play this game, it was a different version. It was the threes.
Courtney
Threes.
Shane
It was threes.
Courtney
What was it called? 333 for 38.
Amanda
36.
Shane
But I, I was really bad at it. I'm too impatient.
Amanda
You know the New York Times games. I love those.
Shane
Wordle and everything.
Amanda
Wordle. I love those. But if I'm on my phone playing them for too long, something in my brain, like, gets really overwhelmed. I, I, it starts to, like, I, I don't know. I think I get over stimulated. What does that say about me?
Courtney
Think about that. That stuff's normal.
Shane
Their brains are like that.
Courtney
Do you want to try?
Shane
Brains are weird.
Amanda
Weird.
Courtney
I once let Shane's niece play, and then she lost, and she was like, oh, no, it's done. And I was like, it's okay. I start over, like six times.
Amanda
I don't even know how you start this.
Courtney
So slide, don't go.
Shane
Don't slide to the left.
Courtney
So the best thing with that game is keeping all your numbers on in, like, one place. So slide right and left. Don't slide. Oh, you already slide.
Shane
And Amanda's off to the races.
Courtney
But it's okay.
Shane
We can't see what it looks like. We don't know what's. What's happening. I can only assume she's winning, bouncing around.
Amanda
I'm not doing well.
Shane
I think probably most people know the type of game that we're talking about.
Courtney
2048. Check it out.
Shane
See, Courtney has that. I gamble away all my money on sports immediately.
Amanda
It says game over. So I think I did something wrong.
Courtney
Oh, you have an ad. Yeah.
Amanda
You lost.
Shane
Oh, that's gone, dude.
Amanda
Guess I can't ever play it ever again.
Shane
Guess you're never allowed to play. Whoops.
Courtney
Menu, how to play challenges. New game.
Amanda
So we have women makeup.
Shane
Lying, lying. And now little tiny game that you play.
Amanda
Little, tiny, little tiny person.
Courtney
Little tiny person, big food.
Shane
Yeah. Do we have one final?
Amanda
Yeah. Do you have one final?
Shane
Was that all?
Courtney
Let me cook.
Shane
Wow.
Amanda
Well, I mean, I think that's literally perfect. You literally. You literally timed it out perfectly. Lovely.
Courtney
Thank you.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
Great.
Courtney
That was my plan all along.
Amanda
I loved it.
Shane
That was really, really enlightening.
Courtney
Imagine a martini olive. Nothing in the martini olive. Punch your arm into the martini olive.
Shane
And now you're mega man.
Courtney
And now you're mega man and you have a big olive and you bite it and you punch somebody.
Amanda
Here's the thing. I can feel that excitement from you. And I'm like, yeah, I love that. I don't know if I want my body in food. I feel like I need to, like, get it off.
Shane
Yeah.
Courtney
Take a bath. I need to take a bath and then go back.
Amanda
You take a bath and then you go back. Is the bath tiny?
Courtney
It's as big as you want the bath to be. I don't care about the size of the bath. I care about the size of the food.
Amanda
Okay.
Shane
Okay.
Amanda
There's specifics in this fantasy.
Shane
Yeah.
Courtney
What the heck?
Amanda
So, yeah, Courtney's Courtney, thank you so much for sharing your special interest with us. Us.
Courtney
Thank you.
Amanda
We love you.
Courtney
Thanks for letting me. That's a lot of talking about me, guys.
Amanda
That's the point. I will never get out of the image that you have a grape cherry tomato top hat and top hat side
Courtney
hat sit in it.
Amanda
All of it.
Shane
Yeah.
Amanda
I can't wait to bring this fantasy to life.
Shane
Yeah, we'll find a way.
Amanda
Yeah, no, we're going to find a way.
Courtney
It's going to be amazing.
Shane
Thank you for being here.
Courtney
Thanks for having me. You guys are my favorite.
Shane
What? We're gonna tell everybody else to talk.
Amanda
I'm telling everybody.
Shane
All right.
Amanda
Okay.
Shane
Thank you, guys.
Courtney
Bye. Bye.
Shane
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Amanda
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Shane
Have they ever broken a bone?
Amanda
No.
Shane
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Title: Courtney's New Obsession
Date: February 23, 2026
Hosts: Shayne Topp (Shane), Amanda Lehan-Canto (Amanda)
Guest: Courtney Miller
This episode of Smosh Mouth spotlights Courtney Miller's "special interests." With Amanda and Shane mostly along for the ride, Courtney takes full creative control, sharing quirky, sincere, and hilarious obsessions—from pop culture crushes and deep music nerdom to strange food fantasies, makeup techniques, and TikTok oddities. It's a playful, freewheeling episode full of fun tangents, personal stories, and thoughtful insights—all in true Smosh style.
“It's your special interest—that does feel very parents. Okay, show everyone your special interests!” — Amanda (02:44)
“Do I want to be her? No. Do I want to meet her? No. I simply like looking. Sometimes even listening. But nothing else.” — Courtney (05:53)
“What I am seeing is what motivates me to be better and is inspiring. And I want to hold on to that.” — Shane (11:47)
“I used to treat Spotify's Discover Weekly like my fortune teller. I love music so much… In high school, I used to spend evenings hunting through websites and forums for unique music…” — Courtney (16:03)
“It's so cool that something... as old as people themselves, can affect you in a physical way, like amplify a moment.” — Courtney (23:06)
“It's like the face is the canvas. Just like Cher says in Burlesque, you’re painting a face..." — Courtney (27:12)
“If you spend time doing your makeup or hair, you actually have a lot more meditative time in your day...” — Courtney (33:53)
“Imagine you are six inches tall, and there’s a cold jar of pickle spears... you climb up, arms out like a Jacuzzi... and you bite one just on the tip..." — Courtney (38:59)
“I am so into this because... it's such a surprise for me.” — Amanda (42:17)
“It ruins the experience... It takes the wind out of the sails for real people who are trying to educate others...” — Courtney (55:44)
“If I need to, like, figure out something and, like, think about how I need to address something, I will be sitting and playing this and scheming while playing this game.” — Courtney (63:23)
“I will never get out of the image that you have a grape cherry tomato top hat...” — Amanda (69:33)
On the joy of “just looking” at Sabrina Carpenter
“Shane likes to watch football. I like to watch... Sabrina Carpenter dancing around. Looking and looking.” — Courtney (06:24)
On not meeting your heroes
“What I am seeing is what motivates me to be better and is inspiring. And I want to hold on to that.” — Shane (11:47)
On music curation nostalgia
“I miss Physical Media, man, because it was, like, special.” — Shane (21:18)
On the meaning of makeup
“If you spend time doing your makeup or your hair, you actually have a lot more meditative time in your day…” — Courtney (33:53)
“It's a form of communication to express who you are, like, and to communicate who you are.” — Shane (36:22)
On food fantasy
“Imagine you are six inches tall, and there's a cold jar of pickles... you climb up… arms out... like it's a Jacuzzi... and you bite one...” — Courtney (38:59)
On TikTok disorder fakers
“It, it ruins the experience... for real people who are trying to educate others and help other people learn about it.” — Courtney (55:44)
“The lengths people will go for attention... It's rampant.” — Shane (59:42)
On the meditative joy of 2048
“It's like an organizing game. So it's like I'm organizing my thoughts while I'm playing the game.” — Courtney (63:23)
On episode highlights
“Music, makeup, women. Little tiny person, big food.” — Amanda (68:14)
| Interest | Segment (approx.) | Highlights | |---------------------------------|-------------------|----------------------------------------------------| | Watching Sabrina Carpenter | 05:53–10:03 | “The joy of looking” | | Music Discovery & Playlisting | 16:03–26:14 | Curation nostalgia, emotional memory | | Makeup as Art & Meditation | 26:16–38:29 | SFX roots, daily ritual, pre-shower makeup | | Tiny Person / Food Fantasies | 38:32–46:46 | “Imagine a Jacuzzi of pickles…” | | Investigating Online Fakers | 50:20–56:05 | Commentary channels on TikTok mental health trends | | 2048 & Organization Games | 61:44–63:14 | Meditative, structure for thinking |
Even if you missed the episode, this summary captures the heart of the discussion: a celebration of weird obsessions, authentic self-expression, and the fun in following rabbit holes—especially when they lead to Jacuzzi-sized pickles. The camaraderie and genuine curiosity bring each “special interest” to life.