S1: #11 - Is Joven Coming Back To Smosh Games?

Summary

Podcast Summary: Smosh Mouth – S1: #11 - Is Joven Coming Back To Smosh Games?

Host and Guest Overview In the eleventh episode of the first season of Smosh Mouth, hosts Shayne Topp (short), Amanda Lehan-Canto (tall), and special guest Joshua "Jovenshire" Ovenshire delve into an engaging conversation about Jovenshire’s potential return to Smosh Games. Released on May 1, 2019, this episode offers fans an insider's look into the dynamics of the Smosh family, the evolution of their content, and the personal journeys of the members.

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1. Jovenshire’s Potential Return to Smosh Games

The episode kicks off with Jovenshire addressing the community’s curiosity about his involvement with Smosh Games. He shares his excitement about possibly rejoining the team, emphasizing his ongoing commitment to the Smosh family despite working on personal projects.

Joshua (00:32): “I am here. People are like, where are you? I'm like, I'm here now.”

2. Reflecting on Past Projects

Jovenshire reminisces about previous endeavors within Smosh Games, such as the pilot for Sellouts and memorable episodes like Grand Theft of Smosh. These reflections highlight the creative processes and the challenges the team faced in maintaining engaging content over numerous episodes.

Courtney (09:30): “What we did was basically our old president of the company walked into my office for the first time in my. At that point, three years working there.”

3. Evolution of Smosh Games into a Unified Family

A significant portion of the discussion centers on how Smosh Games has transformed from distinct groups into a cohesive family. Courtney emphasizes the shift from branded segments to a unified Smosh identity, allowing for more authentic and diverse content creation.

Courtney (07:02): “It's just the Smosh family. If smosh main YouTube.com smosh is the sketch scripted arm and Smoshpit is the more reality-based kind of like personality. YouTube games is just a gaming arm. It's the same group of people.”

4. Overcoming High Content Demands and Travel Exhaustion

The team delves into the demanding nature of producing multiple content streams simultaneously. Jovenshire discusses the relentless schedule of creating five to six pieces of content weekly, leading to significant travel and exhaustion. They candidly talk about the toll it took on their personal lives and well-being.

Joshua (15:06): “Because there was. Sunday was only bonus... We were basically the Simpsons.”

5. Personal Bonds and Maintaining Relationships

Despite the pressures, the hosts highlight the strong personal bonds within the Smosh team. Jovenshire shares anecdotes about being best men at weddings and supporting each other through various challenges, underscoring the familial atmosphere that has sustained their collaboration.

Courtney (59:18): “We've known each other for almost a decade. Nine years that we met. We've known each other for that long.”

6. New Ventures and Creative Projects

Jovenshire reveals his ventures outside of Smosh Games, including his collaboration with Marvel on a new show and pitching a cartoon to Fox. This diversification signifies his growth as a content creator and his desire to explore new creative avenues while still valuing his roots with Smosh.

Joshua (68:14): “I've got a Marvel show that happens once... I'm very excited about that.”

7. Emotional Impact of Avengers: Infinity War

A notable segment of the episode is dedicated to discussing the emotional resonance of Avengers: Infinity War. Matt Robb shares his profound physical and emotional reactions to the movie, connecting with the audience on a shared cultural moment. The hosts analyze key scenes and their personal experiences, fostering a nostalgic and heartfelt conversation.

Matt (31:51): “I was, like, holding onto my hoodie and my hands were shaking uncontrollably that I've never experienced before from a movie.”

8. Future Plans and Content Strategy

Looking ahead, the team outlines their plans to introduce new content formats and re-engage with fans through projects like Summer Games. They express a commitment to evolving their content while maintaining the authentic and personality-driven approach that defines Smosh.

Courtney (62:42): “We're probably gonna do summer games this year. We're probably gonna do summer games this year.”

9. Lighthearted Office Banter and Team Chemistry

Throughout the episode, the hosts infuse humor and lightheartedness, showcasing their chemistry and camaraderie. From playful teasing about office smells to reminiscing about past adventures, the conversation remains lively and relatable.

Courtney (66:57): “It's weird how that happened.”

Matt (67:00): “I've always wondered if smell will ever be a component in, like, TV or movies.”

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Notable Quotes:

• Joshua (03:46): “I didn't see myself at 65 and retiring as a Smosh Games talent. I did not think that was going to be a valuable career.”
• Courtney (07:21): “Cause we hit 273 episodes… that's a lot.”
• Matt (31:51): “I was holding onto my hoodie and my hands were shaking uncontrollably that I've never experienced before from a movie.”
• Joshua (38:20): “Anyways, what’s going on?”

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Conclusion In this episode of Smosh Mouth, the Smosh team offers an intimate glimpse into their creative processes, personal relationships, and future aspirations. Jovenshire’s potential return to Smosh Games serves as a catalyst for a broader discussion on evolution, resilience, and the enduring bonds that keep the Smosh family thriving. For fans who haven’t yet tuned in, this episode provides a comprehensive and heartfelt narrative that underscores the essence of what makes Smosh a beloved name in the digital content landscape.

Transcript

[Jovenshire]

Ramble.

[Courtney Miller]

But I had to have my friends text message me memes. Cause I wasn't getting my memes.

[Jovenshire]

And to be completely honest, I stole the idea from Saturday Night Live.

[Matt Robb]

I was, like, holding onto my hoodie, and my hands were shaking uncontrollably that I've never experienced before from a movie.

[Jovenshire]

The human body is a machine, and you have to know how the different cogs work and what flows.

[Courtney Miller]

Stop it. Just shut up.

[Matt Robb]

I regret this.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. I don't like this at all. This is terrible.

[Jovenshire]

My grandma has a Yadro collection that she said, I'm head up. And I was like, I don't want your Yadro.

[Courtney Miller]

You like Yadro.

[Matt Robb]

All right, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Smosh. Cast. Yeah, we're going. You guys ready to cast this pod?

[Courtney Miller]

Let's cast this.

[Matt Robb]

We're doing it.

[Jovenshire]

I was just asleep. How did you get me here?

[Matt Robb]

You know you actually got some sleep last night?

[Jovenshire]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Robb]

Gosh. Cause barely. Barely me.

[Courtney Miller]

Barely you?

[Matt Robb]

Cause we saw a certain superhero movie. For those listening or viewing, you may notice that I. I am not a bearded white man with glasses, but I'll get there eventually. I'm Courtney Miller. I'm here with Joshua Ovenshire, Jovenshire, and Matt Robb. Is this both your guys? First time on this podcast? Both of you?

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. Yes. No, I haven't. I think we did, like, a testy boy early. Early before we.

[Matt Robb]

Testy boy.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, before we did a real pod. But I don't think I've ever been on this podcast.

[Jovenshire]

Look at that.

[Matt Robb]

It's nice.

[Jovenshire]

All right, we're gonna do it here and have a good time with it. And Courtney will judge us from that side.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. Well, it's my. So you guys will be judging me.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, it's just a Judge city.

[Matt Robb]

Judge city.

[Courtney Miller]

All right, I'm into it.

[Jovenshire]

Next 70 minutes. Nobody knows what they're doing.

[Matt Robb]

Strapping Ian is doing a side project, which is cool. Are we allowed to say what it is? Yeah. He's doing a thing for Tastemade. He's gonna be, like, cooking with people.

[Courtney Miller]

Cooking with Ian.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, Ian cooking.

[Jovenshire]

He's so tasty.

[Matt Robb]

We Santa, kitchen daddy. Yeah. So this is cool.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, man.

[Matt Robb]

I'm very happy I'm doing this with you guys.

[Jovenshire]

This is great.

[Matt Robb]

I love you guys, and I love you together again.

[Courtney Miller]

This is safe.

[Matt Robb]

This is saf space.

[Courtney Miller]

I'm judging you.

[Matt Robb]

Except we're judging.

[Jovenshire]

Safe judging, happy judging.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. It's cool to see you two next to each other. Like, it's been a while.

[Courtney Miller]

I know. It's been a hot second. Joven, you're here.

[Jovenshire]

I am here. People are like, where are you? I'm like, I'm here now.

[Courtney Miller]

You're here.

[Matt Robb]

I probably see that 10 times a day on YouTube comments.

[Jovenshire]

10 is a small number. Yes.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah. It's like 12.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. That's a lot. That's a lot more. So what's the answer to that? Like, do you even respond to comments or.

[Jovenshire]

Well, I do, but I wanted to wait because I felt like this would be a good time to talk about what's going on, where I am, and. And to explain that I am here.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

I'm just not always here. I'm like. Like Captain Marvel during the first Avengers movie. I'm saving a planet somewhere.

[Courtney Miller]

Mm.

[Jovenshire]

It's just. We're getting there. Uh, no. I'm. I'm currently working on my YouTube channel. I am also working on some other career aspect stuff, but at the same time, just to kinda jump right into it, I'm still part of the Smosh family.

[Courtney Miller]

Of course.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

I'm still hanging out. We're going to film some stuff.

[Courtney Miller]

It's just.

[Jovenshire]

It might not be an everyday thing, but, like, you don't get to choose your family. You just.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

And it's all.

[Courtney Miller]

It's all happening.

[Matt Robb]

It's all happening. And, like, so are you going to be in videos or.

[Jovenshire]

So that's the plan. You and I have already started talking about some stuff that we want to do together. I. Over the last few days, I was watching some older videos of ours and being like, hmm, I love that. So I'm excited to jump back into the mix, but just full transparency. I'm just gonna be completely very honest today. And I'm working on other stuff I. I want to see.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, I've seen stuff on Facebook. Like, you've got. You got stuff in doing.

[Courtney Miller]

I.

[Jovenshire]

So I'm in the process of selling shows, and I think that is something that you and I have talked about for a while. Like, what is. Like, what does the career path look like? And I just had to take a moment to figure out, like, I didn't see myself at 65 and retiring as a Smosh Games talent. I did not think that was going to be a valuable career.

[Courtney Miller]

Me, I will be Smosh games. It'll just be me playing video games. Old geriatric hands, and it'll still be funny.

[Jovenshire]

No, I just had to. And this wasn't even, like, when the evolution of current Smosh happened. This was something that was in the making. That happened Last year also, and it was just like, how am I going to retire? Because I'm married now. One day. We want to have a family. I've got three dogs. I'm like, how. How do I maintain what an adult YouTuber life looks like? And it was a matter of just trying to see and make decisions that affected me 30 years from now. So as much as I love filming with you guys and I love hanging out all the time, I knew that that wasn't something that I could continue to do and then eventually have something to, like, a little nest egg or. I needed to know what the next step of. Of Jovenshire's life was. And it was very scary, and it was very sad, and it was a very tough decision, but it was something where it was just like, all right, I got to. I got to take a. I got a bet on me. I have to see if I can be successful as well or if it's just a Smosh thing.

[Courtney Miller]

Right.

[Jovenshire]

Because, like, before Smosh happened, we were clever games, and we were being threatened with $0. So, like, if you don't get views, you're not going to. You're not going to be any fun. The streets.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

And then they're like, yeah, that is.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

And at the time, they're like, hey, do you guys want to partner up with Smosh? And it was just like, wait, they get views, right?

[Matt Robb]

Yes.

[Jovenshire]

Yes, we want to do this. Yes.

[Matt Robb]

But, like, did you know about Smosh before?

[Jovenshire]

I had seen two videos.

[Matt Robb]

Okay.

[Jovenshire]

I had seen the Pokemon video, and then I had seen the Legend of Zelda rap that.

[Courtney Miller]

This is 2012.

[Jovenshire]

Earlier than.

[Courtney Miller]

No, no. Yeah, yeah.

[Jovenshire]

Early 2012.

[Courtney Miller]

Early 2012. When all that went down. But I mean, like, you're absolutely right. You hit on something. I want to talk about is, like, it's about evolution. Right? And it's like, that's what we're doing with Smosh games, too. Like, we're evolving, you know, it's not changing for the sake of change. It's evolving for the sake that we're able to, like, do different things. Like, we hit 273 episodes of Game Bang. 200. A show that we didn't think was going to exist simply because of the name. We hit 273 episodes.

[Matt Robb]

It was 272.

[Courtney Miller]

It was a 272.

[Matt Robb]

272. Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

We called it 272. I think we did an extra one, probably.

[Jovenshire]

We also don't know how to count.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, but I mean, like, that's a lot. That Is like, how many? Like, I can't name.

[Jovenshire]

The Simpsons doesn't have that many episodes.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, no, they do. I can't name more than Simpsons. I can't name many shows that have over 250 shows. That's a lot.

[Jovenshire]

That was five, six years. Every week doing the same show.

[Courtney Miller]

No breaks.

[Jovenshire]

No breaks. Trying to come up with new ideas. Do you know how difficult it was coming up with punishments that other people would agree to? It's very.

[Matt Robb]

After 272 episodes, guys, we're basically the Simpsons.

[Jovenshire]

Simpsons. Smosh games did it first.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. Gangbang did it.

[Matt Robb]

Smosh games did it.

[Courtney Miller]

I mean, it's true. And, like, we have to evolve as well, which is why it's so exciting about the stuff that we're doing. And, like, you get to be in more stuff and Shane and Ian get to be in more stuff. Like, in this new iteration of Smosh games is really rad because we get to, like, actually try things that we've never gotten to try before because we had this daddy corporation that was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. You want to try? You want to experiment? That's not going to do that.

[Jovenshire]

Daddy with a Y or ie. Daddy with a Y or ie.

[Courtney Miller]

Which is the worst one? D, A, D, D, I, E. Y.

[Matt Robb]

Y is the one that makes you feel a little uncomfortable.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. D A, D, D, I, E. But that also sounds like a candy.

[Matt Robb]

I will say, like, I wanted so badly to be more a part of smosh games, like, all the time, like, throughout all of it, because, like, just I love video games. And so it's, like, cool that that's actually happening now. And we have some stuff that you guys are wanting to do with just me, and I'm so excited.

[Courtney Miller]

It's very exciting.

[Jovenshire]

Well, that was something like. That was never on camera either, where, like, you and I would just, like, walk through the kitchen and then start talking about Skyrim or something. I'd be like, oh, that's right.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

Gets it.

[Courtney Miller]

We shot. One of my favorite things we ever did with you was the sellouts pilot.

[Matt Robb]

Oh, my God.

[Courtney Miller]

No. You hate it. But I loved it so much. That's right. Yeah. What we did was basically our old president of the company walked into my office for the first time in my. At that point, three years working there. He was like, you need to make a mobile game show.

[Jovenshire]

Do you know my last name?

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, probably not. He was like, you need to make a mobile game show. And I was like, ah, okay. I guess we could come up with something. At the time, none of Us liked mobile games. We all hated mobile games. We're like, this is a dumb fad. I think it was like just after Angry Birds at the peak of Candy Crush, and we're like, mobile games are just icky. There's no good mobile games. Couldn't do Skyrim. Couldn't do anything fun on a Fallout.

[Jovenshire]

A great Marvel game where you put five cool characters together and make them fight against other characters.

[Courtney Miller]

I haven't heard about that.

[Matt Robb]

But what you came up with, though, was so cool and such a concept and it was really fun to host. I was so nervous.

[Courtney Miller]

I remember.

[Jovenshire]

I remember.

[Matt Robb]

Did that go anywhere?

[Courtney Miller]

It didn't go anywhere. So we originally shot the pilot. It was just.

[Matt Robb]

And you helped me, Jovan.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

It was just the two of you together? Yeah, we played a game together. I don't remember what the original premise of the show was.

[Jovenshire]

I think it was a challenge based game. While trying to play the game, we were drinking fake slam because we played.

[Matt Robb]

On the word sellouts because we're selling out. And we made like a fake.

[Courtney Miller]

We made a fake soda called slam and you guys had to chug slam soda while playing some dumb game. And we shot it and we're like, how do we do a year of this? It doesn't make any sense. So then I was like, what if we just did a thing where they played a game and then we did something out in real life and it was like, so cool. That's cool. Let's do that. I love that show.

[Jovenshire]

I really do. I think, like, on behalf of, like, the entire that Smosh Games cast where it's like, we love. That was our favorite show to do. Because if you ask, like a favorite moment of Smash, like, everyone has a sellout story. One of my favorite shirts is still stained from Greece because of the first sellout that went on air was the. With the suit.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, my God. Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

And they wear a suit of armor. That's a stupid great idea. That was. We came up with some great, stupid, really great ideas.

[Matt Robb]

I love that I got to go to Vegas with you guys. I did like a couple days in Vegas. You, like, talked me into getting a massage while we were.

[Jovenshire]

That's right.

[Matt Robb]

That's right.

[Jovenshire]

That was Vegas.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, dude. That was. And I vlogged that. That was such a fun trip.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

And. And that' actually what I'm really excited about what you guys. What we're doing. You guys are doing next where. And I never really talked to the fans about this, but I was always not necessarily offended, but I Always wanted to correct people when it's like, oh, my favorite Smosh Squad members. This person, but my favorite Smosh Games member was it. I was like, no, there's no. There's no line in the sand. And it all. Sometimes it felt like that on camera there. And I'm excited now that that line is blurred.

[Matt Robb]

Yes.

[Jovenshire]

And you should be on Smosh Games channel all of the time because you love games and you're great at what you do and Shane. And vice versa. And I don't know, it's very exc. Exciting to see that that line is going to get blurred because it should have never existed in the first place. Yeah.

[Matt Robb]

I think. I think this. The whole Smosh Games, Smosh Squad, like, Like, labeling was such a branded thing, trying to package people to brands. And it wasn't about, like, the relationships at all. At that point.

[Courtney Miller]

We were segregated by corporate nature, and it was so stupid. And like, luckily, you know, when we moved into a different part of the office, we were able to be closer to each other. But there was a period in time. The reason why. So Joe Beretta and I created Summer Games. And the reason we did was because at the time in the building, the Smosh Squad and the Smosh Games were literally at the opposite ends of the building. So it's like, we're like, you guys, we're on the same brand. It doesn't make any sense. Like, you guys, we should be doing something. So Smosh Summer Games was created literally as a morale boosting thing. And then we're like, let's shoot some content while we make it happen.

[Jovenshire]

And literally was, I think, some of the best bonding moments. Because we're all stuck in a cabin during a blizzard or in 120 degree heat in the middle of Nevada.

[Courtney Miller]

Yep.

[Matt Robb]

Yes. Oh, my gosh. So fondly. Because I wouldn't see you guys for months sometimes because you're either traveling or just you're so far away.

[Courtney Miller]

Right? Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

The only time we would see each other in the offices, when we came over to your office to do Pokemon Go because you guys were closer to the shop.

[Courtney Miller]

And it was something that we tried to do to break that. And luckily, now that we, you know, with Mythical coming in and like, us being able to be in control of our own destiny, like something that Ian and all of us talked about from day one, was like, we have to make the Smosh family. There's no squad. There's no sketch group, there's no Games group. Like, it's a Smosh family, and it's all of us. And that's what's rad. And that's, you know, being able to. And being able to put Sarah Whittle in stuff, be able to put Tommy and Spencer and me and like, actually show the people the actual family environment that we created as opposed to this weird fake lives that we had to create to show that there was a thing. I was like, that's not what we are.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. Cause it's like, guess what? Like, I have more conversation with Spencer, our editor, on a daily basis than like, Noah. Like, you'd never know.

[Jovenshire]

Wes got onto Smosh Games because he was just our editor that we were friends with and we had a relationship. And again, it's. It's the relationships that really translate and go past what, like, you can see on camera. It makes it special. And. And when you like. I remember the first time we had Tommy on an actual video, I think was a bordf. And I remember seeing him do his thing. I was like, well, he's the newest member of Smosh Games.

[Courtney Miller]

Cool.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, we just shot an episode of Trying not to laugh with him. And it's like a new format. Dude is hilarious about. He crushed it.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, he's very. He's a funny boy. But I think that, like, that's something that we're really pushing for. Cause, like, you know, I get the questions a lot. You do. I'm sure you do. Is like, okay, Smosh Games is back. Like, before we came back, they're like, where's Smosh games? And then as soon as they came back, they're like, okay, so authoritative. Yes, it's back. But like, I need to know exactly who the Smosh Games cast members are. And it's like, that's the thing is like, there is no Zach. It's the Smosh family. If smosh main YouTube.com smosh is the sketch scripted arm and Smoshpit is the more reality based kind of like personality. YouTube games is just a gaming arm. It's the same group of people. It's the same folks. It's the same everything. It's just. Now we can play video games over here.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. We just have different platforms for ourselves to play on. And so when a new viewer comes, they can just subscribe to Smosh Games. If they just want to see us gaming or sketch. If they just want to watch sketch, it makes sense. And I think it's cool because we get to share our relationships because we are sharing our lives with people who are watching YouTube and we want to share the Good parts that we love. Because if we love it, odds are they'll love it too. So when we have people on like, or if they're not on, it's not a big deal.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Matt Robb]

But, yeah, it's just. We want to be honest, I'm sure it was frustrating for the fans, like, because it takes time. We want to ease people into what the news is when we had all this transition period. But.

[Courtney Miller]

And the benefit is like, you know, being able to do what we're able to do here, but also letting you and a lot of the other Smosh games folks that have started different projects and stuff, allowing you guys the ability and the privilege to come back when you can. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Jovenshire]

I have a Marvel show now, and that's super cool. But I still love those moments when I can come back. It's just like I have so little time and it's how you do it and. And so I'm very thankful to the audience for being there and supporting and. And I will always want to give back to them. And by doing that, being able to be on more stuff with you guys, it's a win, win for me because I gotta hang out on you guys.

[Courtney Miller]

At the same time.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

And what people.

[Jovenshire]

Time management, it's.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. Well, people don't realize is like, when we were making Smosh games content, there was a period in time because you guys started at 12 pieces of content a week. 14. 14.

[Jovenshire]

Because there was. Sunday was only bonus.

[Courtney Miller]

That's right.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

So it was two pieces of content every day for seven days except for Sundays. And then I came on board and I was like, no, no, no, this is insane. So we cut it down to seven, and then we cut that down to like five. But I think at our peak when we were just like going ahead, like, we were probably five or six pieces of content that was. We were never not shooting.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, it was constant.

[Courtney Miller]

And then there was traveling for sellouts or traveling for a brand deal. Traveling for some like. Like con or something. Always.

[Jovenshire]

We traveled so much that this year it's literally my goal not to travel. Like, we traveled that much before. I'm like, nah, I'm good, dude.

[Matt Robb]

I feel that. Sacramento every other day.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, my God.

[Matt Robb]

My southwest points through the roof. I have to fly to see my family for free for a long time.

[Jovenshire]

But traveling to Sacramento once a month for us, we soinky lasercorn and I our favorite macaroni and cheese is in a small restaurant in a term in the southwest terminal. Coming back, we gave It a different name because we called it priorities because it was a priority to get there each time. Yeah, we don't know where we were.

[Courtney Miller]

That's good. It's good that you could landmark knowing how much travel you've done. He's been in the middle of a pyramid, by the way. No, I think it's important to be able to show that we're able to kind of like make content at, you know, to the point where we're not killing ourselves, but still able to like keep the channel going.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, because this isn't like even TV shows have season breaks and stuff like that. Like we.

[Jovenshire]

It's constantly again, game bang. 272 weeks in a row is rough, non stop. And then add five or six other shows at the same time.

[Courtney Miller]

Right. Sellouts went for a year. I mean honest game trailers we had. That was a beast. That kept going. Like we had everything going for a while.

[Jovenshire]

People always want to see more Grand Theft Smosh, but like we didn't know what else to do.

[Courtney Miller]

True. And that's another thing. Like things like when we gamified games like Marecraft or Grand Theft Auto, like that's hard because we were essentially, you know, small m Machinima basically taking a video game and turning it into our thing. You can only do that for so long. We did GTA for three and a half years. We did Mario Craft for four and a half years. Like, and that's the beauty is like we can come back. You know, we're talking about potentially doing a mini Mario Craft run and doing a miniseries or doing a GTA miniseries. Like that's when it's exciting because it doesn't feel like it's just like, all right, another 50 weeks of this show, let's do it. Like we want to make stuff that we're excited about making and that that only comes in small doses.

[Jovenshire]

A small behind the scenes tidbit for the fans. If you ever see an episode of Grand Theft of Smosh, whether it was West List, we literally did that because we didn't know what else to do.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, we ran out of ideas.

[Jovenshire]

It's like, let's come up with four races. I don't know anything. Yeah.

[Matt Robb]

What's the west list?

[Courtney Miller]

He basically put like a list of levels together because you could do custom levels and we actually. Yeah. So small teaser. Wes is actually coming back to be in one of our videos and we are going to be doing a Westlist style thing which is fun. And also you're coming back next week and you don't even know what you're coming back for. I hope I know how much we're.

[Jovenshire]

All learning things right now.

[Courtney Miller]

You love getting sticky.

[Jovenshire]

No, no, no.

[Courtney Miller]

No sticky.

[Jovenshire]

No more hot peppers.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, we had hot peppers. We are doing sticky, but not with you. But we are gonna do. We are gonna make you drink some gross smoothie stuff. Cause you know, it's fun.

[Matt Robb]

Remember in my mouth memory.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jovenshire]

I can't forget that. There's some things you look back on. It's like, oh, man, I can't run for office now.

[Matt Robb]

I've never shut my laptop. Watching one of our videos put in my mouth episode where they had a disgusting smoothie. And you.

[Jovenshire]

There was some backfire acts. Not backfire.

[Matt Robb]

Blowback, Spit. Blowback, Backwash. Throw it into a smoothie.

[Jovenshire]

Into a smoothie.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, this is. So we're playing. So they just opened up custom levels in Smash Bros. Oh, yeah. And I'm very excited about that. Like, you can jump on the actual DVD load screen.

[Jovenshire]

Oh, that's kind of cool.

[Courtney Miller]

As it moves and stuff. So I want to play that. But I was like, well, we got to do something different. We got to play with gaming with a twist. So there are 60 different character inspired ingredients that you have to put into a blender. This is all Damien. Damien was like, I got it. And like, I looked at the list and I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, it'll be fun.

[Jovenshire]

Hey, just don't lose. As long as there's no hot peppers. Lasercorn actually tricked me into having a hot pepper recently, like, on camera. And I was not about that life.

[Matt Robb]

Is that real? Because I was like, that was one.

[Jovenshire]

So one of the shows that I do on my channel, totally unprompted, where it's. We write scripts for each other. And Lasercorn wrote in my script that, oh, I love hot peppers so much. And he's like, I've got one right here. That literally. I did not know that was gonna happen. Seriously, I was not happy. But I'm a trooper. Ish. If the camera's rolling, I'll be a trooper.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Jovenshire]

And it's like, all right, cool. I guess I'm doing this right now. And we still had to film five more episodes after that. And you can still see that I'm dying from it. Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

The whole hiccups.

[Matt Robb]

And you have different guests. You have different guests on the show, Right?

[Jovenshire]

So it was me, Wes, Sawinking Lasercorn. So there's different combinations of that. And then they'll do it. But if it does. Well, I would like to have another batch on. I feel like I need to have Damien and Shane off.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, we'll talk about. Yeah, let's spill some tea. Some hibiscus tea.

[Jovenshire]

I like the hibiscus.

[Matt Robb]

Do you like it iced or hot?

[Jovenshire]

Normally iced, actually.

[Courtney Miller]

No, it's hot today, by the way. Yeah. So I saw a lot of comments.

[Jovenshire]

Oh, boy. That was a fun first day.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. So your episode went live and looked like people thought your show was kind of familiar.

[Jovenshire]

I was so proud of this because I paid for a crew. I got the guys in. I was proud of the concept. I edited the video myself, which I haven't done in, like.

[Courtney Miller]

And you're blind. I am.

[Jovenshire]

So I move very slowly and like Yoda. And then the second comment was like, oh, Damien and Shane did this? And I was like, that must have been a one. Awesome. And then a few more comments. I was like, what?

[Courtney Miller]

What?

[Jovenshire]

What? Several shows, apparently in. It was a running segment that they had done on Smosh Pit Weekly. And I will say right now, I did not know that.

[Matt Robb]

I thought I heard Damian say that you complimented him.

[Jovenshire]

No. I also blindly compliment Damien because it, like, keeps him happy and moving forward. So most of the time, I don't know. He'll just come up with a smile. I'm like, hey, the thing you did last week, I loved it. Good job.

[Matt Robb]

Oh, my God.

[Jovenshire]

Good for the night.

[Courtney Miller]

It does keep him going.

[Jovenshire]

It's like the energized feeling to kind of heat it up. The reason I didn't know is I didn't watch those episodes of smoshfit Weekly.

[Matt Robb]

It was a segment in smoshfit Weekly. It wasn't an entire video. So there.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, that is so it was something. And to be completely honest, I stole the idea from Saturday Night Live, literally. It was a segment on weekly news where they wrote each other's jokes. And I was like, that's hilarious. And I had been wanting to do something that felt like old why we're single videos. I was like, let me take this and add a why we're single element with, like, people in the background. It's just more like personality based. And the jokes are there, and then we'll see what happens. And I was so happy with the final product.

[Courtney Miller]

For the record, by the way, Damon and Shane did it before SNL did it. I'm just. Yeah, I want to make sure everyone's aware.

[Matt Robb]

I almost wonder if they saw it because they searched weekly.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, Michael Shea is a huge smosh bit weekly.

[Jovenshire]

That Makes sense. I stole the idea from snl. But to Damien Shane, I will not say this again, so hear this once.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, and it's gonna be foreverzz.

[Jovenshire]

You guys are just brilliant, talented, funny people. So I feel lucky that I came up with an idea that you had already done a few times. That means I'm kind of on the right path to making something entertaining.

[Courtney Miller]

That's very sweet.

[Jovenshire]

So. And. And if they would like to come on, I would love to. I just. I felt bad because, like, I thought I had something great. But here's the thing. It's the Internet. There's nothing original on the Internet anymore. Except for whatever they're about to do on Smosh and Smosh games in the next few months.

[Courtney Miller]

Nobody's drank a smoothie ever. On the history of the Internet. Yeah. We've never done it before, period.

[Matt Robb]

I feel like the Smash. Was that what we said? Okay. Yeah. The Smash Bros idea. I didn't know how secret it was. This seems very original to me.

[Courtney Miller]

I think so. I mean, that's the thing is, like, there is no originality. All you can do is put your stank on it. So, like, you guys put your stank on it. It's how you do it.

[Jovenshire]

It was different.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Matt Robb]

Little Smosh seasoning, a little Jovi season.

[Jovenshire]

I'm sorry. Damien and Shane. I started watching the Gold, but Goldberg's literally just to support Shane. I think he's very talented.

[Courtney Miller]

Your view counts. Every view counts on that show.

[Jovenshire]

I think so. Just like on YouTube.

[Courtney Miller]

Right.

[Matt Robb]

I don't know what to believe now. When you go, that thing you did.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, yeah. No, just. If I sound sincere, I'm lying. Oh, wow. Wow.

[Courtney Miller]

Way to completely negate what you just said.

[Matt Robb]

We're real here. We're real.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, we're here. This is the real, real.

[Matt Robb]

Oh, my God.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, that's good. So, yeah, you've got that show. You got the Marvel Mobile game show.

[Jovenshire]

I pitched a show to Fox next, and I didn't hear anything for months. And I was like, well, there goes my career. I'm done. And then they hit me back up, and they're like, hey, we like this thing. Do you want to do this? And I was like, wait, I'm gonna have a show with Marvel and Fox, which is the most scared I think I've ever been. Because you and I have talked about this, and I want the fans to know no one that you've ever seen, met, or talked to, or have heard of in their life knows what they're doing in la.

[Courtney Miller]

If You're. If you're a coal miner or a teacher, chances are you know what you're doing.

[Matt Robb]

Or a doctor maybe.

[Courtney Miller]

No doctors faking it.

[Matt Robb]

They.

[Jovenshire]

Yes. Every day.

[Courtney Miller]

Little known fact about doctors. They don't know anything.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah. Do you see how many books they have? Do you think they actually read all those book. No, nobody reads that much.

[Matt Robb]

Cool.

[Jovenshire]

And so they came to me and they're like, alright, great, we want to do this. And I was like, wait, I've been guessing my whole life. And now the spotlight was on me and I had to come up with how the show is gonna work, the structure and everything about it. But also having Marvel and Fox looking at the same time at every tiny detail that you do was a new type of pressure. And it was, you know, it was learning experience. And we're having a wonderful working relationship with them. Even though I didn't get invited to a premiere or anything. That's fine. But I still, I don't know. It's something that I'm very passionate about and it's something I get to do with them. And so there's that show. I brought Top five back this week. There's Totally Unprompted, which we'll. We'll go for for another batch and we'll try to get some more in. If Shane doesn't, I don't know, give me a cease and desist or punch.

[Courtney Miller]

A hole through you.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, that too.

[Courtney Miller]

He's been known to do that.

[Jovenshire]

I got Magic the Gathering videos up there because that's a really popular thing and that's something that even you'd get mad at us for talking about Magic Gallery because it's real nerdy.

[Courtney Miller]

I did the same thing with Damien about anime. When he starts talking about his weeaboo stuff, I'm like, I don't, I don't know what you're saying, man. I was like, look, I could tell you literally every single character in every Marvel movie and their history and their first issue, but you start talking to me about like, Boko. No Hero. No, no, no.

[Matt Robb]

There's so much anime. He says a different anime every day. I'm like, there's a whole world that I don't know about.

[Courtney Miller]

Courtney. I think he's making this up. Oh my God, he's making this up.

[Matt Robb]

Have you seen Spirit of the Darkness? Dead Boy, Man, Hero Love.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

You don't know. It's the best.

[Matt Robb]

It's the best. I highly recommend it.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah. I'll need to have him on an episode of where to Start, but it's just manga.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

And that's. That's the comic book show where we go over and I want to have you on eventually because we just talk about like, hey, here are the comic books that you need to know. So I'll have Damien on to do manga. You come on. And he'll love that. And then I can tell him that he did a good job and he'll definitely believe me until he watches this.

[Courtney Miller]

Podcast and his heart literally breaks.

[Matt Robb]

We have such a nerdy office though.

[Courtney Miller]

We do. We really do.

[Matt Robb]

It's cool. Like, even before this office specifically, just our workspace, it's just filled with people with pretty similar tastes. They're just on that same level of nerd, which is cool. So we were up till 3am seeing the new Avengers movie. And this morning you see doors are shut and people are talking. You're like, okay, they're all talking about the movie right now. That's pretty common. And like the new Game of Thrones.

[Jovenshire]

Episode, I feel like you were always very notorious for having your door shut because, like, people would make you shut your door. Because there was always something that we.

[Courtney Miller]

Just saw that people were talking about. The premiere we went to or the latest episode of something. And everyone's like, I don't want to hear this. Yeah, I need another day. Yeah. We were doing that this morning because we finished watching Endgame. I saw it twice in one day.

[Jovenshire]

Big movie. Hasn't even been out for 12 hours, Eddie. I know.

[Courtney Miller]

I saw it.

[Jovenshire]

Six hours of those 12 hours.

[Courtney Miller]

Six of my. Of my 12 hour day was watching.

[Matt Robb]

A video empty by like 4:30.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Matt Robb]

Because everyone was out. It felt like Christmas. Like something big like that.

[Jovenshire]

And it was. It was one of those things where just like for this in Star wars, like you have to get there first or you're going to see something online. Whether it be a troll or just like you can't not talk about it.

[Courtney Miller]

I went on complete social media blackout for two days. I was texting. Cause I couldn't go on Reddit. Cause Spencer told me he's like, front page of Reddit. Big old spoiler. I didn't go on Twitter because. I know. So I told you when I went to Force Awakens, I was like tweeting. I was like gonna go see Star Wars. And literally someone just replied to me like, han Dyes. I'm like, are you serious?

[Jovenshire]

Like, what the fuck?

[Courtney Miller]

That's.

[Jovenshire]

I hate that.

[Courtney Miller]

But I went in total blackout mode. I had to have my friends text message me memes because I Wasn't getting their memes. I was like, please send me memes.

[Jovenshire]

But then they just send you Marvel spoiler memes.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. I was like, nos.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

SoS need meme. Hard day. But I was like, just send me stuff. And then I went in, and then I'm like, okay, good. It was so liberating, right? Being able to go back on the Internet is so liberating after.

[Jovenshire]

Now you're in. Another joke.

[Courtney Miller]

I know.

[Matt Robb]

For the. For the week prior, I was pretty good. I just, like, I was just in general scared of leaks or something. I was pretty good at staying in my lane because I still want to put out my own social media, so I was very good at navigating that. The day of yesterday, I was literally, like, I kept accidentally opening Twitter and clicking the Discover page like an idiot, and I'd see a picture of Rocket.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, get that out of here.

[Jovenshire]

I did a livestream yesterday to kill time, and I was like, I'm sorry, guys. Not looking at the chat, so good luck. I'm gonna do this. And you're there too.

[Matt Robb]

Ian tweeted this morning or last night being like, yep, can't see it until next Friday because I'm busy. Which I'm hoping he'll be able. No.

[Courtney Miller]

So we go to New York on Sunday, and I think we have a little bit of time on Monday.

[Jovenshire]

He's not gonna survive.

[Courtney Miller]

No.

[Matt Robb]

Because of his tweet. Someone spoiled.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, my God.

[Jovenshire]

Did he see it?

[Matt Robb]

I hope not.

[Courtney Miller]

I hope not.

[Matt Robb]

If you're gonna tweet about spoilers, there's gonna be somebody just.

[Jovenshire]

It's.

[Courtney Miller]

It's just Anarchists. It's just people being like, I want to ruin this guy's day.

[Jovenshire]

It's like, I don't care as much, so I'm gonna. That's stupid. But what are you gonna do about trolls? What you're into is you're gonna try to see the movie as early as you can.

[Matt Robb]

When we were at the movie theater.

[Courtney Miller]

I like, yeah, you had to, like.

[Matt Robb]

I pluck my ears and go, la, la, la, la, la, la. We did it ourselves. Talking about it, walking out.

[Courtney Miller]

They had to say in the ArcLight intro thing, they had to be like, also, reminder, when you're leaving the theaters, there are certain people haven't seen the movie yet. Do not spoil it.

[Matt Robb]

Don't be that guy. I am so ready to talk about this movie.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, please and thank you.

[Matt Robb]

Dude, did you see it twice? Did you see it? You saw it twice?

[Courtney Miller]

I saw it twice.

[Jovenshire]

I saw it last night. At 11:30. Got home very, very late. Yeah, but you also saw it really late, right?

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, it was 11:45 showing.

[Jovenshire]

Now is that because that was the first time you were available to do it? Or like me, you procrastinated and just had to find the furthest theater that still had a seat available?

[Matt Robb]

Shane, actually, he was like, there's no way I'm buying tickets. It was super far in advance. He's like, I'm just gonna buy a bunch of tickets right now for this one showing. And so then a bunch of people just hopped on. So I was luckily able to just be a part of that.

[Courtney Miller]

I backed into the fan screening at five. Cause I was like, I'll go. But it's like second row back. And I was like, ah, what if the seat sucks? So I was like, I'm just gonna buy a second row.

[Jovenshire]

Do like this the whole time.

[Courtney Miller]

Like, ah, get out of here. Cause I really wanna see it. And I. It ended up working out. Cause there's so much of the battle that I missed. There's so much of the stuff. Oh, yeah. We getting into spoiled territory. Spoiler boy.

[Matt Robb]

Well, yeah, so basically we. I loved it. I loved the movie.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

Hands down.

[Matt Robb]

You should go see it. But like, you gotta see. There's gonna be people who haven't seen Infinity War that are gonna go see this. Like, there's gonna be people like that. Don't do that.

[Courtney Miller]

It's on Netflix. Watch it.

[Jovenshire]

Like, if you didn't see Captain Marvel, you could survive and watch this movie. You didn't see Infinity War. You'll be confused.

[Courtney Miller]

Yes. Who's the purple dude?

[Matt Robb]

Who is that?

[Courtney Miller]

What's his deal?

[Matt Robb]

What's he like?

[Courtney Miller]

He's nice.

[Matt Robb]

What does he think about? Does he think about me?

[Jovenshire]

He's just farming. Okay.

[Courtney Miller]

I thought it was.

[Matt Robb]

I thought it was spoiler time. Yeah, spoiler time. I don't know.

[Jovenshire]

Just come back and rewatch this all.

[Courtney Miller]

If you're. I mean, this is. This is. You're gonna hear the audio the Wednesday after it comes out. You're gonna see the video the Friday after it comes out.

[Jovenshire]

And by the time, if you haven't seen it, it's already been spoiled for you. So.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Matt Robb]

If you go on social media at.

[Courtney Miller]

All, literally anywhere but.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, let's go.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. I mean, what'd you think? What did you actually think?

[Matt Robb]

Well, my. I had like a physical reaction to that movie. It was so much like that movie. I loved it so much. When the battle was happening, like when it was like on your left. Everybody comes out. I almost cried again when you said that. Everyone started coming out. And when I saw Peter Quill, like, I literally. I grabbed myself and, like, my heart was pounding. Obviously, everyone's was. And then, like, as the battle started happening, I was, like, holding onto my hoodie and my hands were shaking uncontrollably that I've never experienced before from a movie. Like, I was trembling. I was just constantly just, like, crying. Just, like, my eyes just. I didn't want to blink because there's so much going on. I didn't want to miss anything, but, like, my heart. My heart rate didn't slow down until I was home. Like, I was. I did have coffee with dinner, so that may have been part of it. Hands trembling and shit. Like, I. Wow.

[Courtney Miller]

It was. Yeah. Amazing.

[Jovenshire]

And it's. It's. It's funny that you said that you've never had that reaction before. It's because we've never had this experience before.

[Matt Robb]

Exactly.

[Jovenshire]

No one's had this experience before. This is 11 years. And I know that we were all saying this the same thing last year, where it's like, 10 years to get to this one movie. Yes. And this is even more true now because it is 22 movies that led up to this one experience. The best part of this movie is that you will never be able to experience this again. And especially like that. Even if you see the second time and it might be as good, but, like, not knowing what was gonna happen, wondering when the movie was gonna stop. You will never experience 22 movies leading up to one movie ever again.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

Like, people will try, but okay, yeah.

[Matt Robb]

Maybe executed with everybody in it. Executed. I mean, in my opinion, so well, perfectly.

[Courtney Miller]

And everybody had their moment. Everybody was able to have a cool comic book hero shot. Everybody got to have it together. You got your girl squad moment. You got your best friend cap and iron man moment. Like, it was just. It worked.

[Jovenshire]

They just tried every loose end.

[Courtney Miller]

Every loose end. Close. Every loose end.

[Matt Robb]

Pretty almost.

[Jovenshire]

Because we're in spoilers. Let's just get to that moment in the movie where you said you had, like, a physical reaction. I literally jumped out of my seat when Captain America got the hammer.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, yeah.

[Matt Robb]

Oh, my God. This was me.

[Courtney Miller]

For audio people at home. She's making a face from the ring.

[Matt Robb]

And look like a demon. I was so shocked.

[Jovenshire]

I've seen quite a few movies with Laser Gorn and Sohinky, and I did see this movie with them and Mari last night, and I've never noticed before that they'll always switch off who sits next to me because I yell too much.

[Courtney Miller]

It's a thing you do.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah. I get excited, I clap, I cheer, I get into it and lasercord afterwards. Like. Yeah. Then I watched the movie again because I didn't hear a few lines. You were yelling. I was like, I was so good.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

And it was, I'm. I'm so used to that. We saw it together. We saw it was you, me, Damien, Shane, Ryan Finnerty. And I was kind of looking at that. Cause it was a second screening for me, so I wanted to go back because I wanted to watch people's reactions. My favorite thing to do in a movie, if I kind of know what's happening, is to watch what people are doing and how they're reacting. So I kept looking over and you were just in the fetal position. And Shane, no joke the entire time, didn't make a noise or change his face. He's just. Yeah, the entire time. I looked over a dozen times and he just, I was like, is he, is he upset or like, is he sad? He's just in complete, just like comatose face. Like it was so. It was jaw dropping.

[Jovenshire]

Exhausting.

[Courtney Miller]

It was exhausting.

[Matt Robb]

My heart hurt. Yeah. I felt physically drained. I felt like I was in the battle. Like my heart was hurting, my head was hurting. I didn't want to talk to anybody. Like, I tried to be a little bit of conversation, but like, I needed to sit down. My body was not okay.

[Jovenshire]

After watching that movie leading up to this, I almost like, would lose like nerd cred for some people where they're like, mmm, how am I gonna do pee breaks? It's so long. I was like, bitch, you didn't do three hour Lord of the Rings midnight screens also. Come on. This is nothing.

[Matt Robb]

I trained for this moment.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

And then like watching this, I'm like, how much time has passed? It feels like this movie should end right now. No, we're still going. Like, literally when the two armies are going head to head, I was like, it's gonna cut the black, right? But this is the end of the movie.

[Courtney Miller]

No, it's nuts. Like, cuz I, I, I also sometimes time check. And I was like, cool, where are we in the movie? Like, generally try to figure it out. And I was like, when they, when they finally decide to have that brainstorm session, I like turn to my wife. And I was like, there's another 90 minutes to this movie. And when they go into the battle, when the battle ends, there's another 35 minutes. To the movie. And I'm like, this is insane. There's so much content.

[Matt Robb]

I just love that one. It's like, yes, there's more movies.

[Courtney Miller]

No, exactly, Exactly.

[Jovenshire]

I didn't want it to end again. I'm not gonna have this again, at least for a decade. If someone started right now, right? Which I guess Phase five Marvel, maybe.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, you got X Men stuff. There are going to be more geeky moments in the future. We're gonna get things.

[Jovenshire]

This is the first time this ever happened. And the Russo brothers are just in my top three of directors because they know how to do these moments so well. Like, the opening to Infinity War, I think is brilliant how, like, we see how badass Thano is. Thanos is just by Thanos, just by fighting Hulk. Like, you don't really need to see him destroy Xandar. You don't need to see him, like, wipe out all the Asgardians. You just see him fighting Hulk. You're like, oh, all right. He's a bad bitch guy.

[Courtney Miller]

And that was my one gripe with this one. One of like, two gripes with this within game is like, Hulk never got his, like, redemption.

[Matt Robb]

And I think we were saying, I think his version of redemption that they had for him was coming up with the time machine or trying the time machine. And then the snap.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, yeah, the double snap. Snap back.

[Jovenshire]

That moment where just Thanos armor shows. It's like, what the hell is gonna happen right now? And then you just hear the faint sound. You're like, oh, okay. That's the.

[Matt Robb]

Know it.

[Jovenshire]

Oh, my God, it's happening. I know it's happening. And then you just see the strange portal. And you're like. I was like, grabbing people's arms.

[Courtney Miller]

Like, I ugly cried at Avengers Assemble. I was like, I literally. My wife grabbed my hand. I was like, yeah. And it's amazing. And like, when they ended the first movie, because we all saw Infinity War together and, like, the fact that they just blew everybody's minds by killing everybody at the end of the movie. And, like, everyone was like, what? Like, you have a year of us building and, like, theorizing and trying to figure it out. And the fact that they subverted all expectations in the first 10 minutes of end Game, which is amazing.

[Jovenshire]

I did a video after Infinity War. I was like, marvel's making the same mistake that Star wars made, where it's like, if you give someone a year to theorize, the, like, Episode eight just, like, went against what everyone thought. So then they hated it for. It's like, well, this movie won't be what we think it's gonna be, so we're gonna hate it.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

And the movie started off so slow that it almost made me, like, doubt if it was gonna be good.

[Courtney Miller]

Right.

[Jovenshire]

Like, after, like, the Thanos stuff in the beginning, I was like, oh, what if this movie is just kind of.

[Courtney Miller]

Just them dealing with it.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah.

[Matt Robb]

That made me feel super confident in the movie. Oh, like, we're gonna sit here and like, we're gonna. They're emotionally bringing us in, like, so much and like, I cannot believe, like, the amount that cinema and, like, movies can affect a person. Like, it's a bunch of people who have a job and they're doing this thing and they're creating this thing and they're all passionate about it, but it's like the fact that millions gather and just looking at a screen just creates so much response.

[Jovenshire]

It was just done perfectly.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

There might be some issues here and there's some lines cringey, but anytime you throw time travel into a movie, like, for me, it's gonna take me out. I'm like, alright, well, this ruins everything in the timeline. And they did it so well. And literally at times, just by throwing out any preconceived notion of time travel in a movie and just kind of resetting your thought on it, it's like, so this will make sense.

[Courtney Miller]

It just worked. Like, it just worked and it was just kind of perfect. And it's like, honestly, they could never make another movie. And I'd be like, that was. You know what? We did it. That's our Godfather trilogy is 22 minutes long or 22 movies long. Like, honestly, they could never do another Marvel movie. And I feel like. I feel okay with it, you know?

[Jovenshire]

And like, you're right. But like, how do they follow up in two months with what? The movie that's supposed to end, Phase Four, which is far from home?

[Courtney Miller]

I don't know. I have no idea. I mean, it's gonna be Spider man stuff. I mean, that's the benefit of doing something like this. And then something a little smaller is like you go from the macro cosmic to the microcosmic. So this can be more about, like, Peter, his life, how it was affected, all that stuff.

[Jovenshire]

I'm still like, they're really good at having lines where to kind of clear up any questions that you might have. If I had a kid in high school and he got dusted and then he's back all of a sudden, like, I don't know if I'm gonna Send him on a school trip to Europe or anything.

[Courtney Miller]

Allegedly. They're gonna address it. They're gonna address the fact that Peter Parker's five years younger than literally everyone he's in class with. So they'll figure it out. Yeah.

[Matt Robb]

Whoa.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. It's gonna be weird.

[Jovenshire]

Well, yeah, I think you just start. Like some people moved on. All right, great. You're now in college now.

[Courtney Miller]

Zendaya in her 20s now, is that weird? She's dating a 16 year old.

[Jovenshire]

Any character that we knew before probably also got dusted and then maybe then came back. I don't know. It'll get addressed.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, it's gonna be great. I'm very excited. I'm excited to see what the future is. I'm excited to see them kind of do weird, more obscure characters. Like they have to pull a couple more Guardians out of their ass. Like they have to pull a couple more of like, let's. All right, let's take a franchise or a comic book from the 70s or the 80s that nobody gives a shit about, and let's make it a very big and popular thing.

[Jovenshire]

I thought I was excited for guardians 3 and then I got so much more excited for guardians 3 when I was like, oh, throw Thor in it. That's how it is.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, that's gonna be interesting.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, give us fat Thor.

[Matt Robb]

I'll be honest, I think Star Lord, Chris Pratt, I don't know, I feel like he was kind of half assed performance in, in that, in Endgame, man.

[Jovenshire]

It's. It's interesting that you say that because there was a point in time where, especially when like all the dusted characters came back, where I felt like we weren't getting the satisfaction of like seeing, right, these relationships or personalities come forward. And I had to stop myself a few times. Like, it's not Star Lord's movie, right? It's not Strangers movie. This is Captain Iron man and Thor finishing off their story. And like, that's where the magic needed to be. You didn't want anything pulling too far from that.

[Matt Robb]

But when, when he sees Gamora, I like saw like, I was like, I want to feel this right now. But like, he. I think they're saving from him this time.

[Courtney Miller]

I think they're saving it for the third movie. I think that they were teasing like that they're gonna go search, they're gonna do a search for Spock and they're gonna go try to find Gamora.

[Matt Robb]

The thing is like, man, I. Okay, so it's like everyone, all the fans say, like, oh, I'm a Chris Pratt fan. I'm like, I'm more a Star Lord fan than a Chris Pratt fan. I'm sure he's good in other movies, but like Star Lord, Peter Quill and the way he performed that character in previous movies, I like. I've never loved a male character.

[Jovenshire]

Well, it was. And I'll say this all the time on my channel, the way that you make a successful superhero movie is you need to do something different. And Chris Pratt as Star Lord was a very different leading man versus anything we'd seen for the eight years before that. We needed that kind of superhero.

[Courtney Miller]

I mean, he's Han Solo. Let's be honest. I think he's Han Solo.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, he's Han Solo. I see it.

[Jovenshire]

Han Solo.

[Courtney Miller]

He's Han Solo.

[Matt Robb]

I see that. He's got that Han Solo charm.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, he's got the swagger.

[Jovenshire]

He's got swagger, but like, kind of.

[Courtney Miller]

I'm talking Han Solo, New Hope. Like, he's kind of like, he's kind of an idiot, but he's also kind of a hero. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's just.

[Jovenshire]

I could see the comparison. I still have a little bit more lined up down the.

[Matt Robb]

He's gatekeeping Han Solo right now.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, just stop.

[Matt Robb]

Just let it happen.

[Courtney Miller]

But I loved it. I loved every aspect of it. I think, you know, sitting through a three hour movie twice is definitely never something I ever thought I could do. But I did it and I was like, fine. And they made us care about Thor, too.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

That alone is a feat. Oh, my God. Jeez. The moment with the.

[Matt Robb]

I delivered that one out of my brain.

[Courtney Miller]

Right? Everybody did. Which is why I feel like, all right, we got what the fuck happened in Thor 2 script. Did anybody here see Thor 2? Nobody.

[Jovenshire]

Was that actually Natalie Portman that we saw in this movie? Yeah, they brought her back for a.

[Matt Robb]

Shoot I feel like they used. Because I think they used. They had all this extra footage from when they shot those movies. I think they used stuff. And then they used a body double when she gets up and rockets behind her.

[Courtney Miller]

They did. There's a close up of her face and it's definitely now Natalie Portman.

[Matt Robb]

Really?

[Courtney Miller]

I thought so.

[Jovenshire]

I thought so.

[Courtney Miller]

Everybody. That's the one negative of this movie. It's like everybody, like Gwyneth, Renee Russo, everybody's kind of like, oh, that movie was like 12 years ago. Like, I forgot. You've had, like a long time on this planet since that movie happened.

[Matt Robb]

So when I saw that close up of Her. I thought she looked fresh. Thought she looked good.

[Courtney Miller]

Like, back then good, maybe. But also they made Michael Douglas not look like he's the Crypt Keeper. So, like, they probably did a little bit of magic, CGI magic on her face. It was great. It was a great moment. Made me care about it. I don't care about that character, but I was like, this is rad. This is cool. Like, I was into it. It.

[Jovenshire]

What moments made you cry?

[Matt Robb]

Like, so many. Like, so many little ones.

[Jovenshire]

As someone that prides himself on having a lack of emotion that.

[Courtney Miller]

It.

[Jovenshire]

It came a few times.

[Matt Robb]

It's. It came a few times.

[Jovenshire]

It did.

[Matt Robb]

Sorry.

[Jovenshire]

Well, it was that good.

[Courtney Miller]

I did the gym.

[Matt Robb]

There was that wave of emotion, like, oh. Like dozens of times throughout that movie. But I think the. Like Captain getting the hammer. I lost my. When Gamora puts her hand out for New Nebula or like the orange Nebula. Like that for me, like just a sister relationship that I like, literally. I watched up and I was like, that's sad. And then like, even the later scene was starting and I was like, no, I was really sad.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. What about you? Any other cry scenes?

[Courtney Miller]

Honestly, it was just Assemble for me when he says assemble. And like, it's been like they've been teasing it for 20 movies and he hasn't said it fully for the longest time. And then he says it and everybody's there and it's a battle. I lost it.

[Matt Robb]

But they technically are assembled because they already all came together. They. They.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, they were like. They were just kind of looking in different directions. Also, he whispered it, so maybe they didn't know.

[Matt Robb]

Maybe he wanted to yell it, but he's like, wait. But it doesn't make sense.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

[Matt Robb]

There we go.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

You, Thor talking to his mom. Like, just. It got me. And I was like. And then all the way up to Steve Rogers at the very end, the slow down before that when he's on the bench. Oh, yeah. And I was just like. Maybe that was just like the emotional. Like. Like it just even just watching the movie three hours and finally came to this moment, I was like, he's earned this. And he got to like, he saved the world. Who knows how many times is now able to. Like the moment he didn't come back, I was like, oh, I grabbed my wife's hand. I'm like, oh, God, here we go. And then they. I think what also did it was the fact that. That Bucky knew that he was going to be over there. And then pushes Falcon. That way. And I was like, yeah, it's getting to me again. It was just like, that was the perfect ending where it's like, you've earned it.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. For me, that was like, I don't know. I, I, I guess it's good. It's not just killing people off. It's easier. But I was like, this is the first time since Winter Soldier that I actually liked Cap. I've always thought Cap is super vanilla. Yeah. I was like, he's just super boring.

[Jovenshire]

Like, I didn't like the comics at all.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. I was like, he's just, he's whatever. He's Cyclops. Nobody likes Cyclops. Everybody likes Wolverine. You know what I mean? So it's like, for me, I was just kind of like. And then in this movie, I genuinely like Chris Evans. I think Chris Evans is one of the funnier actors out there, and he doesn't get to do it. And I think that they kind of made the decision. They're like, we got rdj and he's rdj. And Hemsworth is really reaching for this comedy stuff, so you gotta be you. But the fact that they let him do it, where he's like, I could do this all day. He's like, I know. Like, those moments actually made me care about Cass. And I was like, this is so good. And then at the end of the movie, I was like, but wait, you don't go, no, I like you now.

[Jovenshire]

I know you're on my team now. Yeah. I think the one issue that I had and the reason I'm bringing up is you kind of touched on the scene. The one thing that I would have done differently because I am a professional.

[Courtney Miller]

Of course, you work with Marvel.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah. So they're listening is when Cap says that line about when he sees himself.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

And, and that fight happens.

[Courtney Miller]

Captain America swears, I know you would have wanted him to say language.

[Jovenshire]

Like, I, I, I thought the other Cap should have been like, language.

[Courtney Miller]

I thought about it, but I was like, it's, there's so many things happening in that three scene shot that I was like, if he says, oh, you got to be me. And then the other one says, I got Loki, and the other one says, I'm not Loki. If they were to say swearing, it felt like a hat and a half.

[Jovenshire]

It would have been another thing in there. I wonder if they actually did film it and be like, maybe I didn't.

[Matt Robb]

Think about the swearing thing.

[Jovenshire]

Was this movie a comedy? Because there are some times where, like, Marvel has always tried to, like, really jump into the comedy.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, the Russos got their start in sitcom.

[Jovenshire]

In sitcom.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. Like, Community was the thing that put them on the map, which is also great. Cause they put almost every Community regular in a Marvel movie. Oh, and we got Danny Poody. They had Ken Jiang.

[Jovenshire]

We got Ken Jiang.

[Courtney Miller]

Nicole Brown was in the. This one. They've done. I think everybody but Alison Breed, Chevy chase, and Joel McHale. Everybody else has been in it.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, it's great. But, yeah, it was just funny. And then, like, sometimes I'm like, is it trying to be too funny? I'm like, no, it's just, like, perfect blend.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Matt Robb]

It just felt like. It felt like, oh, this is a little mini sketch right now that's happening. And for me, that's the difference between Marvel and DC is Marvel knows how to make it look like they are a little. Like, they don't care as much. It's like, we're chill. Like, we aren't taking ourselves so seriously. And I'm sorry, you are a little more on the dc.

[Jovenshire]

I work for Marvel with a Batman tattoo. Don't tell them that.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, I will say, when Cap sees Margaret through the window and doesn't do anything about it, that was like a really powerful moment to me. Cause, like, he's. Cause he's just so strong. He's so strong emotionally, physically.

[Courtney Miller]

Whoa.

[Matt Robb]

But, like, sorry, that, like, just, you know, and it's just. And even when he got knocked down by. Was it Thanos? And he still is just getting back up. I almost yelled, get up. Because it's like, that's Captain always gets back up. He can do this all day. And just the fact that, like, all of their egos were out the window for the most part, like, for this movie, because it had been five years. Whatever. Like, the egos were all super hot in the beginning before the five year jump.

[Courtney Miller]

Thor's got a gut.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

Which it was so refreshing to be able to see a Marvel movie and have a shirtless superhero and me feel like I'm doing okay.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, this was a conversation my wife and I had is like, do you think there's no way they're gonna keep that? She was like, do you think Chris Hemsworth's like, oh, I don't have to get in super shape? And I was like, I don't know, man. I feel like there's a little bit of me that's like, oh, they're representation. But also it's like, I feel like they're probably like, you can't have an action figure with A gut.

[Jovenshire]

Well, you also, like, if. If you look at. I buy it, like, Thor. Thor at the end of the movie was as big of a badass as anyone else, if not the biggest badass there.

[Courtney Miller]

And he had braids in his ear.

[Matt Robb]

When he hit the lightning. The lightning God's like, here's really good for you.

[Jovenshire]

So you look good. And so, like, that is.

[Courtney Miller]

That's.

[Jovenshire]

He didn't get abs in 10 seconds. So that's to show, like, he could still have the build that he has and still be a great character.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. They made a perfect. Like, it's muscular, but it's overweight.

[Courtney Miller]

Right.

[Matt Robb]

He still had all the muscle there, but it's crazy. It was good prosthetics on him.

[Courtney Miller]

No, just pizza.

[Jovenshire]

It's like a ton of pizza. He did Christian Bale just gained all the weight.

[Courtney Miller]

I mean, he is actually. He's very method because it was. It was a master and commander. No, that's the other one. He did the whale movie and he was, like, emaciated. He's lost, like, he's done that thing where he's, like, fluctuated in weight. So, like, part of me was like, did he gain, like, 55 pounds of fat for this movie? But he probably.

[Jovenshire]

It wasn't in his face. So I think it was. I think it was just the suit, but which. Yay for practical effects suit.

[Matt Robb]

And I think maybe some body double stuff. I mean, it makes sense.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, if they could do it with Cab looking like a scrawny kid. They can.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

It's like, all right, we did the scrawny kid, strong guy thing. Now we got to do strong guy, fat guy thing.

[Matt Robb]

And they did Skinny Tony.

[Courtney Miller]

Skinny Tony. They did the Skinny Tony.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

Well, that was. That was hard to watch. It was like, ah, too much.

[Courtney Miller]

We also, like. I mean, the dudes had a hard life, but, like, in the last movie, I was like, yikes. He's only 54. Definitely looks like he's clocking 60.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

Like, it's. He's. He's lived a long time.

[Matt Robb]

I mean, fighting in the MCU when you're saving the universe all the time, you know?

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. Getting drunk and showing up in people's backyards.

[Matt Robb]

Obama, when he first got elected.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

He fought Thanos. Yeah. But it's amazing. I'm excited. We. I probably will go again. Will you go again? Will you go again?

[Jovenshire]

I think I need to.

[Matt Robb]

I think it was so much physically, too. I think I definitely want to see it 10 times more. But I think I need to be in the comfort of my own home more intimately with the screen so I can just look at more.

[Jovenshire]

That's funny. I think my next screening will be like on a Wednesday at like 11am where no one else is at the theater. And I'm just like, all right, cool.

[Courtney Miller]

Good luck.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, I'll have to wait three weeks.

[Matt Robb]

Do you guys remember that period like years ago when people were like, people are gonna stop going to theaters and cinema's gonna die? Like when Internet and Netflix was like such a thing?

[Jovenshire]

People just make bad movies.

[Matt Robb]

And then Marvel happened.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. It's still not doing well. Theaters are still not doing great.

[Jovenshire]

Theaters.

[Matt Robb]

Well, the movies are.

[Jovenshire]

Blockbusters are.

[Courtney Miller]

The movies are.

[Jovenshire]

But blockbusters have always done well.

[Courtney Miller]

Right? That's the thing. It's like you're always gonna have those. It's always gonna do well. But like, you have your Netflixes and your things that are taking a chunk out of movies. I mean, you could just see it in the fact that every movie theater's get a recliner now and you can get food to your table. They're making it very easy. But it's definitely the Marvel. I mean, this movie is probably. By the time this comes out, we'll know. But this probably gonna do better than any movie.

[Jovenshire]

Oh, no. That's something that I find kind of annoying every time. I know it's just good marketing, but it's like every movie has its records that it beats. I'm like, you can't do that every single time. No, but this will. This will. This before the movie came out was.

[Courtney Miller]

Like, oh, it's Shattered Records and presale.

[Jovenshire]

Will it win Best Picture?

[Courtney Miller]

No. No, I don't think so.

[Jovenshire]

I think it might so good.

[Matt Robb]

But it's, it's as a one off movie by itself. I feel like that's gonna be something. So many people are gonna see this movie and like, have not seen infinity. People who just need to see it because, like, oh, well, everyone's seeing it, so I gotta see it.

[Courtney Miller]

Yes.

[Jovenshire]

Didn't Return of the King win Best Picture?

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. But it was also at a time where there was kind of like nothing dropping. I feel like there's also so many. I mean, this. It'll be interesting because this is gonna go up against like a joker. And I feel like a joker is probably gonna be up for more things just because of the Scorsese of it all and the fact that it feels a little more Oscar.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah. You talked about this and it kind of like, as much as I Am expecting a lot from that movie. By expecting very little. Could that be up for Best Picture? Maybe this just like, again, it's just this moment in history that took 11. 11 years to get up to it. I almost feel like it's just like. You've earned it. Take it.

[Courtney Miller]

It's unprecedented, for sure. But I also.

[Jovenshire]

Especially at a time when I think the Oscars are trying to fight for a better audience.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. And. Well, that's why they created the. Like, the Fan Award or the most popular award or whatever. Like, they. They try, but at the end of the day, it's. It's old Hollywood. You know what I mean? They don't want this. They don't want these movies. They want, you know, the movie about the kid that falls in the ice. They want those movies to win. Like, that's just how it is.

[Matt Robb]

I haven't seen trailer for Joker. I actually didn't see any of the Infinity War trailers.

[Courtney Miller]

Nice. Or for Endgame.

[Matt Robb]

For Endgame.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

That's what I meant. Kudos to them. These are the best Marvel trailers ever. It showed us the first five minutes of the movie. Maybe that's it.

[Courtney Miller]

And they didn't do the cool thing. I actually kind of like the marketing trick where they'll change things in the trailer.

[Matt Robb]

Different delivery.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. Or different, like, all the. Like where the. In Infinity War, they show the scene where Hulk is Hulk and stuff like that. And it's like, they didn't do that with this, which is interesting. They did show footage from Infinity War and play it off like it's in this movie, which is kind of fun. But.

[Jovenshire]

But in the Joker trailer. As a DC fan, I was watching this trailer and people like, well, what did you think? I'm like, I don't know. They didn't really give me anything.

[Matt Robb]

You know, I haven't seen Dark Knight and anything following.

[Courtney Miller]

Really?

[Jovenshire]

You never saw Dark Knight?

[Matt Robb]

Never saw Dark Knight.

[Courtney Miller]

Wow.

[Matt Robb]

I love Heath Ledger so much. I just never got around to it. And then it's just been a thing.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

And then go home and watch Dark Knight, girl.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. I was. My family were very much into Batman, but, like, for some reason, you gotta watch Dark Knight.

[Jovenshire]

Like, Dark Knight's just one of those movies where it's just like, no, that's a good movie. You should see that movie.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. Luckily, nothing's really been spoiled. Too bad.

[Courtney Miller]

I mean, it's hard to. He's ledgerdyed.

[Jovenshire]

Oh, no.

[Courtney Miller]

I'm so sorry. I'm the first to tell you.

[Jovenshire]

I'm so sorry.

[Courtney Miller]

This is how you find out?

[Matt Robb]

Oh, my God. Can you imagine?

[Courtney Miller]

He.

[Jovenshire]

What?

[Matt Robb]

He. Wait.

[Courtney Miller]

But I follow him on Twitter.

[Jovenshire]

Like, he's still tweeting that thing.

[Matt Robb]

That's a meme account.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. I always thought it was weird he would have such dank memes, but whatever.

[Matt Robb]

This. I just feel like this is kind of just the conversations that happen at work anyway with or literally.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, I mean, that's the beauty of, like, what we do is, like, on the. You know, when we were just in a. In a hole in the game side, like, we would just talk about the geekiest crap, and. And then we're able to kind of, like, blend in together, and it's like you're able to come in with different things. Like, I've watched you over the last couple years become this Marvel super fan, which is so cool to me.

[Matt Robb]

I was. I was a fan before. Like, I was like. I said, they asked what my favorite movie was in my. In my interview, and I said, guardians of the Galaxy. But. But it's true.

[Courtney Miller]

It's one of those things where you, like, you. It's cool for me. Cause, like, I literally grew up in the comic book industry, so, like, for the fact that, like, all this stuff was, like, kind of passe, and I would kind of get picked on in, like, school for liking comics and stuff like that. And now it's like, if you don't like comics, you get picked on. Like, the kid that didn't go to the end game is like, look at this nerd. Like, it's so weird to me. It's so insane. And, like, watching, like, everybody in the office kind of, like, come in with different things. It's just. It's one of those things that I think is so amazing about these Marvel movies. The superhero movies in general is like, they don't have a bad taste. Like, we, you know, remember Spider Man 3 and, like, going to X Men and being like, why are they in black leather? Like, that was the stuff. It was just, like, so dumb and, like, stuff before that and, like, watching, you know, the Hulk show and all these different things. But now it's like, so. It's perfect. Like, I wouldn't. I wouldn't change most of that movie last night. You know what I mean? Like, I was like, as a fan, who knows a lot of these characters in and out, there's a lot that I wouldn't have changed. And the fact that we're able to share that together in the office is just so rad.

[Jovenshire]

Like, I love that because anyone, anything, whatever your Favorite Marvel movie was like, it had its moment in this. You'd be like, that's my guy.

[Matt Robb]

There was my girl for everyone.

[Jovenshire]

Just perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

[Courtney Miller]

Look at you.

[Matt Robb]

I remember when I first started working here, that was my first time seeing, like, office offices being like, personalized. So when I saw your office having all your cool stuff, like, and you eventually had an infinity gauntlet in there, like before, and I was like, what is that? What's up? What's up?

[Jovenshire]

These are infinity.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. Like, yeah, you, like, explained a little bit. You're like, no, I wasn't nerdy enough yet.

[Courtney Miller]

No, no, you weren't ready.

[Matt Robb]

You weren't ready.

[Courtney Miller]

I was like, trying to explain. That stuff is hard.

[Matt Robb]

No, it wasn't, apparently, because my body physically had an anxiety attack. Your office has always been something that's like a staple in all. Everything I've been through here. Cause it's like, it's got everything that we all love. And like, I remember going at. Even just here, like, you have the video games going.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, yeah, you got it. I mean, that's the most important thing is like. I mean, it's something that we try to do is like, not is try to keep it. Keep it fun.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

Cause if, like, you know, I don't want to be the guy with like a corporate office and just like, who has charts on the wall? I don't know, business papers everywhere. I don't know how it works, but like, I.

[Matt Robb]

It's just a chart.

[Courtney Miller]

Just a chart, guys. It's going up. I don't know what it is, but it's going up. So business is great. I've never wanted to be that guy. So it's like, I've always made sure, like, my office has tried to be like, you know, a moment of me, like a capture of what I love and like the geeky dumb crap. And we'd have a WWF belt hanging out with my ceiling and like, crap like that.

[Jovenshire]

I think that really echoes just like what you need to be successful on YouTube though, is. Is personality first. And it should never stray away from that. Which kind of going back to what we originally talking about is why I'm really excited to see what happens next with you guys is because it's personality first, it's unfiltered.

[Courtney Miller]

For the first time ever, we get to make stuff and not have a committee decide whether it's a good or bad idea based on. On that one chart in my office.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, it's a pulling out chart.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Matt Robb]

I think it's cool. Like, it's all of us coming up with ideas together. I'm really happy you're back and that you don't hate Smosh.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah. You know, we didn't hate my family. It was just. I want to see if I can be successful.

[Courtney Miller]

You gotta try.

[Matt Robb]

You can hate me a little bit.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

I like yours more than my actual family, so it's fine.

[Courtney Miller]

I mean, we've known each other for almost a decade.

[Jovenshire]

Almost a decade? Which. How?

[Courtney Miller]

I don't know.

[Jovenshire]

You survived this long. I don't know.

[Matt Robb]

You're such a crazy kid.

[Jovenshire]

I was the best man at his wedding.

[Courtney Miller]

I was the best man.

[Jovenshire]

He was the best man at my wedding.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

He actually helped me shave.

[Courtney Miller]

I did.

[Jovenshire]

On my wedding day.

[Courtney Miller]

As you, as those who are watching this video can see, he doesn't know how to shave.

[Matt Robb]

Did you tie his tie for him, too?

[Courtney Miller]

No, Mari did the tie.

[Jovenshire]

Mari did the tie. I think maybe while he was, like, putting on my jacket or something. I can't be trusted.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. I had to put your vows on. I had to download a teleprompter app on my phone because you couldn't read your vows because it was so small. Because he's so. I had to get it on his phone. So we. I mean, we've been at each other. This September will be nine years. Nine years that we met. We've known each other for that long. So, like. And the fact that, you know, we were lucky enough to be able to work in an office every day and see each other and not strangle each other was pretty impressive.

[Matt Robb]

I mean, as long as I've worked here, I mean, I seen you guys. It was like Captain and his first mate. That's what it always seemed like.

[Courtney Miller]

Just a couple of semen.

[Matt Robb]

Yep.

[Jovenshire]

Yep.

[Courtney Miller]

Came so fast.

[Matt Robb]

I'd see you, like, you would do this stroll into Matt Rob's office, and the door would shut, and I was like, ah, it's the guys. Don Draper.

[Courtney Miller]

Little do they know, we're just kissing. Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

No one knew.

[Courtney Miller]

Just the little kisses.

[Jovenshire]

Seeing what I could stick to his beard.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. Don't touch the gauntlet. No, but I mean. And that's what's been cool about it, and that's what's exciting about this, is like, you know, we talked about it. We talked about what was happening with Smosh, and we talked about what you had had coming up. And it's like, we want to make sure at the end of the day, we're still able to be who we are on film with each Other, you know what I mean? And like, there's never been animosity. There's never been like, oh, I hate them. Oh, I quit. Oh, I'm leaving. Like, you know, you. You were freelance when the Defy stuff went.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, that's. That's something that a lot of people don't know is May 1st first last year. I didn't work at Defy. Yeah, I was just coming in to film videos and. And if you couldn't tell, then you might not be able to tell now.

[Courtney Miller]

It's one of those things. Like, it's just, you know, the. There were mandates as there were. Was like our cast was too old and we couldn't put certain people on. Everybody had to be a 21 year old and speak nine languages. So, like, it was kind of forced on me to be like, we gotta. We gotta phase them out. And I was like, I don't think it makes sense. So, like, in May, you know, you and Mari kind of became freelancers. And that's the thing that no one really knows and no one really talks about. So now, like, the fact that you guys have able to like, have been able to like, build this career for yourselves and still be able to come back and do stuff, that's the most important part.

[Jovenshire]

And like, when. When the defy thing happened, like, I was there at the office, but because you texted me, I was like driving home. I was just literally hanging out with you that day. I was like, hey, you might want to come back. I was there because again, it's family. I didn't lose my job that day, so I was just there to support and help and, you know, not steal stuff.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, it's. I mean, then the fact that we're able to kind of come back and we're able to like, we're able to completely triumph as. As the failure happened in November and come back as this Phoenix. And you're able to come back and Wes and Mari and Lasercorn and everyone. So hinky, everybody. And we're gonna have you back in more stuff. Like I said, we've got something coming up, you know, next week and.

[Jovenshire]

No, nothing sticky.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, you never said that. Yeah, you never said that.

[Jovenshire]

Hot peppers.

[Courtney Miller]

So sticky. Hot peppers all over your body.

[Jovenshire]

Sounds I physically hurt to hear.

[Courtney Miller]

And I mean, like, you know, we are probably gonna do summer games this year. We're probably gonna do summer games this year.

[Matt Robb]

Yes.

[Courtney Miller]

And you know, you'll be back for that and we'll be able to be a part of it. Yeah, no, maybe you Never know.

[Matt Robb]

But, I mean, different now.

[Courtney Miller]

Times are different. Your time away has made you stronger. Your vision is so strong now. Exactly. Exactly. But, I mean, like, that's the beauty about it. It's like, we can still make stuff together, and you can still be in stuff, and there's no animosity. There's no. Like, I miss the old. It's like, no, the old is the old. Like, we want to evolve. We want to do something different.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah. Everyone's like, do the wax job again. I'm like, no, I'm gonna do different things.

[Courtney Miller]

Like, you saw that. You saw that. Why didn't you see it again? You know what I mean?

[Matt Robb]

Just watch the video again.

[Courtney Miller]

It's there. And if we're gonna do something again, we're gonna do it with different people. Like Secret Hitler. You never got to play Secret Hitler.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, that was my first time.

[Courtney Miller]

You know, I never got to do it. Like, we actually did it.

[Jovenshire]

Play the game.

[Courtney Miller]

You know what? It's fine. And I blame.

[Jovenshire]

It was a fun video.

[Courtney Miller]

It was fun. It was fun.

[Matt Robb]

Was it that. Was it, like, a huge difference? Like, was it a big deal?

[Jovenshire]

No, because, like, at the end of the day, you found the balance, and it worked. The rules are just there to help with the balance a little bit more. I feel like liberals won, right?

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

But it's down to the wire, though.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah. If. If you guys were playing by the rules, I think you guys would have won.

[Courtney Miller]

That was a liberal. That's the crazy part. I was just being in the fascist.

[Jovenshire]

Would have won faster. So what you wound up doing worked better for the video.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. See? Look at that. So weird how that happened.

[Matt Robb]

I was so dumb in that video.

[Courtney Miller]

It was great. No, you were hilarious. You were so funny. And, like, you know, being able to do more stuff. Like, you've got a new series we're trying out where you get to do some crazy stuff in Sims. And, like, we want to try stuff. And, like, that's the beauty about YouTube is, like, you can try stuff, and as long as you guys are with us, we're gonna do it together. Like, you're along the. For the ride. The fans.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. And the comments. There's always gonna be comments of, where's this person? They're not. Just because someone's not in that video. Maybe they're freaking sick, dude. Or, like, during the shutdown, Olivia got to go do a movie.

[Courtney Miller]

Right.

[Matt Robb]

Like, and then Shane was able to do. Goldberg's freaking out about scheduling and making sure he's a part of everything. Like, we're doing other stuff. Like, this is a dream job. It's my dream job. But, like, there's other things we kind of want to do, and it's like, who are we? Or who are. Who is anybody to stand in someone's way of doing something that's like they've been dying to do their whole life?

[Jovenshire]

Yeah. We always talk about, like, oh, you do what you have to do to survive. And I don't think that is us, really, now that I think about it. I think it's like, no, we do what we do to try to live now.

[Courtney Miller]

I mean, there was, for the longest time Defy and we could talk about it, had a mandate that we couldn't do anything outside of Smosh.

[Jovenshire]

I got in trouble by one of the execs when I did that, Legends of Gaming, because I didn't know I was gonna show up on the COVID of Variety.

[Courtney Miller]

And that show sucks.

[Jovenshire]

It wasn't great. No.

[Courtney Miller]

But I mean, like, that's what's crazy, is, like, we're able to do these things now and actually try things. Like the notion that, like, oh, if Courtney goes and does a show, it's gonna be, like, competition with Smosh. Like, no, that's not how the Internet works. And there were these old execs making these demands, and it's like, no. If you go off and become a star on TV and you're still part of the Smosh fam, that's all gonna help each other. Like, that's what's cool about it. And the fact that we're able to come back together and still do it, and you can pop in, you live 10, 15 minutes away.

[Jovenshire]

It did not take me long to get here.

[Courtney Miller]

It's great. And we're all close to each other, and we're able to kind of, like, do stuff and shoot stuff together. And that's the beauty of it. It's how it should have been 15 years ago.

[Jovenshire]

You're gonna hate having an office too close to me, because one day you'll just be in the office. Like, what smells like salami? Just like, me looking like Thor.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, no, we get smells all the time, dude.

[Matt Robb]

Around dude. Like, I. Yeah, the kitchen. The mythical kitchen. It's every day. It's a journey. But I do. I met. Sometimes I show up to work, and I'm like. I am really tight in my shoulders. Like, for people who don't know. Jobin was known in the office for. He's very good massager.

[Jovenshire]

I could have been a masseur as as. As Mari's even said as well. Yeah. And. And I don't know if I.

[Courtney Miller]

This is making me uncomfortable.

[Matt Robb]

I don't like this conversation at all. But I. You. I literally, like. You've helped me so much.

[Courtney Miller]

You got magic fingers, bro. Great job.

[Jovenshire]

No, no, no. A long, long time ago, I used to live with someone that was learning to be a masseuse. And so I just.

[Courtney Miller]

Wes Johnson.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, Wes.

[Matt Robb]

No.

[Jovenshire]

There's, like, maybe one person that likes a West massage, and he thinks that he's good at massages. Court, is Wes good at massages? Who's not here to defend himself.

[Matt Robb]

He is not good at massage.

[Courtney Miller]

Strong.

[Jovenshire]

He's just like. Let me break.

[Matt Robb]

Like, a good massage is just jamming your thumb deep inside of them. And if his thumbnail was too long, he'd probably puncture maybe. He's very strong.

[Courtney Miller]

It's like just sausage fingers. These giant sausage Wes fingers just massaging.

[Matt Robb]

Keith liked those massages a lot.

[Courtney Miller]

Did he?

[Jovenshire]

Keith has probably never had an actual massage. To know. No. The human body is a machine, and you have to know how the different cogs work and what flows and be.

[Courtney Miller]

Able to stop it. Just shut up.

[Matt Robb]

You know, I read this.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, I don't like this at all. This is terrible.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, but it smells like salami right now. What's the deal?

[Jovenshire]

Well, I just like my morning salami sandwiches.

[Courtney Miller]

That's weird. I don't miss your salami.

[Jovenshire]

Dry bread, a lot of mustard and just salami and a few onions.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, gross.

[Jovenshire]

That's my normal scent. That's what you guys don't get on the other side of the camera.

[Courtney Miller]

Thank God. Be happy, because you'd be like, is this an AE show? Does this guy have a problem? This is bad.

[Jovenshire]

This is the intervention.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, this is it.

[Matt Robb]

I've always wondered if smell will ever be a component in, like, TV or movies.

[Jovenshire]

I hope not.

[Matt Robb]

It's like, in 4D stuff.

[Courtney Miller]

Cause I'll have to.

[Matt Robb]

It's like Shrek or the Simpsons Ride.

[Courtney Miller]

Or the Simpsons Ride.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. Simpsons. Bring it back.

[Courtney Miller]

Bringing it back. Full circle, baby. I love it. So you've got a couple shows now.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, so I am at full force on my YouTube channel, but so that's always gonna be present. I am working on. So there's. There's top fives. I've got the Marvel show that happens once. An update when that comes around totally unprompted. Thank you, Shane and Damien, for being the. The inspirations in my life.

[Courtney Miller]

We got Shane right here.

[Jovenshire]

And then. Yeah, we're Just. I. I'm actually. I have sold a cartoon. Hey. And we are currently trying to get that up and moving, so I'm very excited about that. I don't have a lot of information because. Because apparently it takes a long time to do that. True. So it's in the process, and maybe the fans will hear some familiar voices if we get those opportunities.

[Courtney Miller]

It's just you doing all the voices.

[Matt Robb]

So since you work at Marvel now, there's a Guardians 3 movie.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, I know all the details.

[Matt Robb]

If I could just. Get me in there.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah.

[Matt Robb]

Just.

[Courtney Miller]

He's in the room with him.

[Jovenshire]

Into Chris Pratt's green room. In his dressing room.

[Matt Robb]

I mean, to start.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, to start.

[Matt Robb]

Sure.

[Jovenshire]

That's where most people start, actually.

[Courtney Miller]

Wow. I don't like it. You're in. But, yeah. What's going on?

[Jovenshire]

I'm having a great time. I'm very excited with what I'm working on right now because for the first time, I feel like it was always Jovenshire with Smosh games, and it's the first time where I'm definitely on my own. And I feel like I'm an adult and kind of like, I have a business now. I run a production. But at the same time, I. I'm very excited now that you guys are up and running to be able to jump back in here. I'm just excited for us.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah.

[Jovenshire]

I think it's just a. Because, again, I don't think it's surviving anymore. I think now we've.

[Courtney Miller]

We're just.

[Jovenshire]

We're living. We're learning how to do it, but we're all together and we're working on stuff. And like you were saying, like, someone's on the channel. They've got a channel. Go watch and support what people are doing, because that's. That. That's what you want to do. That's why we broke down the fourth wall. So we. You guys aren't just the fans. You're family, too.

[Courtney Miller]

So everybody stuff.

[Jovenshire]

Come hang out with us and then comment back here.

[Courtney Miller]

Where. Why are you not in Spanish games anymore?

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. What. Where are you? Where's this person?

[Courtney Miller]

Where are you? Why are you not the thing that I know. What am I.

[Jovenshire]

What is j. Where is Jen?

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, exactly. Well, that's awesome. And, you know, you're going to be back in a couple weeks for another video.

[Jovenshire]

And as I've been told right now.

[Courtney Miller]

Yes, as you've been told right now.

[Matt Robb]

Right now.

[Courtney Miller]

And you're going to love it.

[Jovenshire]

Maybe a smaller gr.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe.

[Jovenshire]

I like how to Say sm. You have to, like, say it out of the side of your mouth right now because it's not official. Official, just.

[Courtney Miller]

It's just the stroke. It's the stroke you're having.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah. Well, thank you guys so much for coming on.

[Courtney Miller]

Thank you for hosting.

[Jovenshire]

You did an amazing job today. Hosting. I'm going to start commenting. Ian who?

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, yeah.

[Matt Robb]

Ian who?

[Jovenshire]

Ian who?

[Matt Robb]

Who?

[Jovenshire]

No, Ian, I love you. Please, please don't hate me.

[Matt Robb]

Thank you, guys. We literally got four hours.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, you were doing fantastic off of.

[Courtney Miller]

Just like that much. I'm being held up on caffeine right now. I'm waiting the moment we stop.

[Jovenshire]

There's also, like, a bar right behind.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, except she's holding me up like a marionette. Yeah, I'm great, guys.

[Jovenshire]

There's constantly a bar behind me, but it's a different kind.

[Matt Robb]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you guys so much for watching or listening to this episode of Smoshpat. Smosh. Pat Smosh. Cast and.

[Jovenshire]

Or listening and.

[Matt Robb]

Or listening. I hope you guys liked me as a host. Please comment down below. Ian Whocox.

[Jovenshire]

Yeah, for me.

[Matt Robb]

And hit that like, button if you want me to come back. If you are listener, the podcast comes out on Wednesdays and as well as a teaser for the podcast on our Smoshcast YouTube channel. And then if you're a watcher or viewer, comes out the whole. The whole cut on Friday. But you don't get to hear the sweary wood swear words.

[Courtney Miller]

You get to hear us say poop or pee pee.

[Jovenshire]

Ooh, pee pee or poop armpit.

[Matt Robb]

Thank you, you guys. I love you so much.

[Courtney Miller]

Love you too. Love you.

[Matt Robb]

Bye. I did it.

[Courtney Miller]

I didn't like that weird feeling.

[Matt Robb]

I hated it.