S1: #20 - Side Yard Hookups and The Case Of The Mystery Pooper

Summary

Podcast Summary: Smosh Mouth S1: #20 - Side Yard Hookups and The Case Of The Mystery Pooper

Release Date: July 3, 2019

In the twentieth episode of the inaugural season of Smosh Mouth, hosts Shayne Topp (Shayne), Amanda Lehan-Canto (Courtney), and Damien Holmes delve into the humorous and often chaotic world of shared living spaces. Titled "Side Yard Hookups and The Case Of The Mystery Pooper," this episode navigates through personal anecdotes, roommate dilemmas, and quirky mishaps that highlight the unpredictable nature of communal living.

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1. Roommate Realities: Cleanliness and Communication

The discussion kicks off with Courtney expressing her initial reluctance to appear on camera, setting a candid tone for the episode. She shares her morning routine dilemma, highlighting the balance between personal appearance and public appearances on the podcast.

• Courtney Miller [02:20]: "I should probably give a crap about my [appearance]."

Shayne and Damien contribute by reminiscing about past roommates and the challenges they faced, particularly around maintaining cleanliness and respecting personal spaces. The trio emphasizes the importance of open communication to mitigate common roommate issues.

• Shayne Topp [08:37]: "We all had those chores growing up. It's tough when living with roommates."

2. The Enigma of the "Poopy Ghost"

A recurring theme in the episode is the humorous concept of the "poopy ghost"—a playful term coined to describe mysterious bathroom messes left by roommates. Shayne narrates his frustration with unexpected bathroom upheavals, leading to a lighthearted investigation among the hosts to uncover the culprit.

• Shayne Topp [19:16]: "You've got yourself a poopy ghost."

Courtney and Damien share their own experiences, detailing specific incidents that range from forgotten menstrual products left in shared spaces to unexplained food left out causing fruit fly infestations.

• Damien Holmes [12:48]: "It was just a month after they moved out, and I was like, thank God they're gone. But not good roommates."

3. Navigating Shared Spaces: Bathrooms and Beyond

The trio delves deeper into the intricacies of sharing common areas, particularly bathrooms. They discuss the challenges of maintaining privacy and cleanliness, especially when multiple roommates have access to the same facilities.

• Courtney Miller [07:50]: "We have to have some form of family time once a week, like making dinner or watching a movie."

Shayne recounts his own experiences with roommates invading his bathroom space, leading to a mix of humor and frustration. The segment underscores the delicate balance required to coexist peacefully in shared environments.

• Shayne Topp [16:45]: "I need my bedroom connected to my bathroom because I'm the only girl in the house."

4. Neighborly Encounters and Safety Concerns

A standout moment in the episode is Courtney's unsettling encounter with a neighbor’s passing away alone. She narrates the emotional impact of realizing someone might have been living in solitude, highlighting the vulnerabilities associated with living alone.

• Courtney Miller [30:39]: "I saw an ambulance leaving her area a few weeks back. I thought she had passed away then."

Shayne adds his own creepy tale of teenagers trespassing in his backyard, enhancing the episode's blend of humor and real-life concerns about safety and privacy.

• Shayne Topp [24:33]: "They were clearly teenagers, walking around our backyard. It was one of the weirdest instances."

5. Living Alone vs. With Roommates: Pros and Cons

The hosts engage in a reflective conversation comparing the experiences of living alone versus sharing a residence. Courtney touches on the importance of social interaction for mental health, while Damien and Shayne share their preferences and challenges associated with each living arrangement.

• Courtney Miller [06:34]: "It's important to have connections for my health."

• Damien Holmes [20:41]: "Living alone is the greatest thing of all time."

6. Personal Anecdotes and Humorous Mishaps

Throughout the episode, laughter ensues as the hosts share various personal stories, from awkward bathroom situations to the peculiarities of former living spaces. Shayne's tale of cleaning up unexpected messes and Courtney's humorous recount of "poop tornadoes" add levity to the discussion.

• Courtney Miller [36:34]: "I had poop tornadoes come out of my tub. It was not my poop."

• Shayne Topp [38:14]: "Sometimes I just hold it. It sucks, man."

7. Reflections on Past Shows and Career Transitions

Towards the end, Courtney reminisces about her time on the show "so Random", sharing behind-the-scenes insights and the transition to joining Smosh. The conversation touches upon the challenges of adapting to new roles and the evolution of their careers in the entertainment industry.

• Courtney Miller [57:03]: "I auditioned for Sketchpad, which became so Random, and then I joined Smosh. It was like a full circle."

• Damien Holmes [58:44]: "It's been a trippy experience, being part of multiple shows and seeing how people react."

8. Conclusion: Embracing the Chaos with Humor

In wrapping up the episode, the hosts maintain their signature humor, encouraging listeners to engage with their content and merchandise in a playful manner. The episode concludes on a high note, celebrating their camaraderie and shared experiences.

• Shayne Topp [75:00]: "Live the Chumba life at chumbacasino.com."

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Notable Quotes:

• Shayne Topp [19:16]: "You've got yourself a poopy ghost."

• Courtney Miller [36:34]: "I had poop tornadoes come out of my tub. It was not my poop."

• Damien Holmes [20:41]: "Living alone is the greatest thing of all time."

• Courtney Miller [30:39]: "I saw an ambulance leaving her area a few weeks back. I thought she had passed away then."

This episode of Smosh Mouth masterfully blends humor with relatable roommate experiences, offering listeners both laughs and insights into the complexities of shared living spaces. Whether you're navigating the challenges of having roommates or reminiscing about past living situations, Shayne, Courtney, and Damien provide a humorous yet heartfelt exploration of their personal journeys.

Transcript

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[Damien Holmes]

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[Shane Topp]

Ramble.

[Courtney Miller]

You really. You're a real person. On recording, I'd be like, nope. I have hair, emotions, everything. I'm a human.

[Shane Topp]

Then I come home and, like, some roommates are home. And I open my bathroom door and it's like, someone destroyed my bathroom.

[Damien Holmes]

You've got yourself a poopy ghost.

[Shane Topp]

Poopy ghost.

[Courtney Miller]

Those are the worst ones. Walking by Shane. And for whatever reason, I know this sounds corny, but for whatever reason, I felt like I'm gonna know that dude. Interesting.

[Damien Holmes]

I had Demi's old dressing room, I believe. Really? I believe mine was Demi Lovato.

[Courtney Miller]

Was it haunted?

[Damien Holmes]

It was haunted by Demi Lovato.

[Courtney Miller]

He's still very much alive.

[Shane Topp]

Cool. Guys, I'm really excited.

[Courtney Miller]

Burp. I'm a burp and I don't want to. This is your brand.

[Shane Topp]

It's okay.

[Courtney Miller]

Okay. It was a false alarm.

[Shane Topp]

That was gross.

[Damien Holmes]

Whoa.

[Shane Topp]

What a way to start this beautiful podcast.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, I hope we haven't started yet.

[Shane Topp]

We have.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, damn it.

[Damien Holmes]

God.

[Shane Topp]

Welcome to another episode of the Smush. It is Courtney hosting today with my boys, Shane Topp and Damian Hounds.

[Courtney Miller]

I'm the second one.

[Damien Holmes]

Damien Holmes.

[Courtney Miller]

Damien Holmes.

[Shane Topp]

I'm so excited to do this with you guys today.

[Courtney Miller]

Me too.

[Shane Topp]

Like, just love spending time with you guys.

[Courtney Miller]

I do, too.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

I woke up this morning and forgot about it for the first part of my morning. So I was like, I was ready to roll in, like, completely, like, five days. Unshaven, a sloppy shirt, just like, my glasses, and I was just like, oh, Wa. I am gonna have to be on camera today. I should probably give a crap about my.

[Shane Topp]

I love rugged Damien.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane Topp]

I love smosh boys.

[Damien Holmes]

You don't say.

[Courtney Miller]

Thank you, Colonel. Colonel. I'm dummy thick.

[Shane Topp]

Would you grow a mustache?

[Courtney Miller]

Never just a mustache. It doesn't compliment my face very well. I did once for a short film that my friends were doing, but beyond that, nah. Really?

[Damien Holmes]

But you have darker hair. See, I feel like, for me, I can't. Cause with blondish hair, a mustache would look like I'd end up on some sort of Netflix documentary about how I'm the worst person. Yeah, that's like.

[Courtney Miller]

We're calling you out, Gus Johnson. Those with blonde mustaches.

[Damien Holmes]

Blonde mustaches make you a criminal. They make you, like, literally, look, Gus Johnson's a criminal. It makes him look like, possibly. I think he would agree, maybe.

[Courtney Miller]

I feel like our number one comment is gonna be from Gus Johnson being like, hey, don't speak for me anymore. Don't do.

[Damien Holmes]

Hey, man, I. You know, I help you guys out a lot, and. Wow. Okay, that's my Gus Johnson impression.

[Shane Topp]

I want to see everyone in this. Cause we have a lot of bearded and, like, facially hairy men in this smosh staff.

[Courtney Miller]

We do.

[Shane Topp]

I would just love to have one mustache Monday just for me.

[Damien Holmes]

Well, yeah, that was the joy of when we had Joe Beretta around. You know, Matt, Rob, and Ian both have beards. I say Ian needs to go mustache Ian soon.

[Shane Topp]

I love mustard.

[Damien Holmes]

Cause we've seen beard Ian. A mustache Ian.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, but not, like, handlebar mustache like he's done in the past, I think, like, reverse Hitler.

[Courtney Miller]

Like, just missing here.

[Damien Holmes]

Just missing in the middle. Mustache around, but not under the nostrils.

[Shane Topp]

I feel like, Shane, you could totally just rock. Like, the simple. Like, the simple upper lip.

[Courtney Miller]

The.

[Damien Holmes]

Like, the hipster mustache.

[Shane Topp]

I think you could totally do it. I see it. Your hair's not that blonde.

[Damien Holmes]

It's salt and peppery, I guess.

[Courtney Miller]

But it's visible, though. Like, you can see it, right? Yeah, I don't know.

[Damien Holmes]

I just. I don't know. Every time I've done it, I'm like, it's not visible enough. It's kind of just like, oh, did you get a tan right there?

[Shane Topp]

Mustache Monday, guys. Okay, I want Mustache Monday. I'll do it, too.

[Courtney Miller]

You know what? If Tinder for hot dogs gets 10,000 likes, we'll do, uh.

[Damien Holmes]

Oh, that's right. That's out today. Ladies and gentlemen, Tinder for Hot Dogs.

[Shane Topp]

Hot dogs. You wear in the shirt.

[Damien Holmes]

I'm wearing the Tinder for hot dogs shirt. You can still get it. If you get it, you will feel powerful, you will be stronger, you will run faster, you will ace your exams. I promise.

[Courtney Miller]

I don't think legally we can make those kinds of promises.

[Damien Holmes]

You will get everything better.

[Shane Topp]

And look down then. The hat. He's wearing the hat. He's wearing the hat.

[Damien Holmes]

He's wearing a hat. Smosh hat.

[Shane Topp]

And we're drinking. I got two beverages going on out of these smosh cups.

[Damien Holmes]

Your thirst will be so much more quenched by a smosh water bottle.

[Shane Topp]

Hold on.

[Courtney Miller]

I don't think you can say any of this.

[Damien Holmes]

Yes, it will be more quenched than if you drink water on its own. It's not as good.

[Courtney Miller]

My roommate was listening to that video last night, and I just came downstairs hearing, like, what will you learn? I was like, oh, yeah, you're my roommate. Hu. Video dude.

[Shane Topp]

How's that been? How's it been living with Mark?

[Courtney Miller]

It's great. For those of you that don't know, my roommate is Mark Rob, also known as Matt Rob, our boss's little brother.

[Damien Holmes]

And they look exactly the same.

[Courtney Miller]

They look the same. Their speech patterns are the same. But Mark is a certified weeb like myself. So we're always just talking about video games. And like, we watched the My Hero Academia movie last night. Yeah, we. It's good. He's coming from Matt Rob's place. Like, they're big on family. Family is important to them. So when we moved in together, he was like, you know, you know, I'm reclusive. Like, I stay in my room even though I've got this whole apartment to myself.

[Shane Topp]

I am.

[Courtney Miller]

And then he is too. So he was like, you know, the only thing I ask is that once a week we have some form of, like, family time. Whether we make a dinner together or we watch a movie or something like that.

[Damien Holmes]

Fly kite at the park.

[Courtney Miller]

Like kite at the park. And I'm the kite.

[Shane Topp]

Play catch.

[Courtney Miller]

Play catch. And I'm the ball. But, you know, I like it a lot. It feels good. It feels like, you know, I don't have a lot of connections that I hold on to necessarily. So it's important to have that in the home space.

[Damien Holmes]

That's really awesome.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, that's really sweet. I had no idea that he did that. That's something really nice.

[Damien Holmes]

He's a good dude. I've always liked Mark. Yeah, he has a very, like, meme type humor.

[Courtney Miller]

He is a meme.

[Damien Holmes]

He literally is a meme. Lord.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, he. He. I think he Was one of the first, like, meme lords in our office.

[Damien Holmes]

He was. He was making memes for the Smosh games Instagram for a while for us. Yeah, he was kind of.

[Shane Topp]

He was kind taken a pretty big part in, like, some of the Smosh games content. When Matt Rob was around.

[Courtney Miller]

He was the originator of Munge.

[Damien Holmes]

That's right.

[Courtney Miller]

He was off camera saying munge. And then it became a Shane thing when.

[Damien Holmes]

Well, what happened was we were. I think it's in the footage of the. Of the Marecraft is you hear off camera. Cause I'm trying to come up with words. I'm like, what's a word for this? And off camera, Mark Robb just yells munge. And I start laughing, and I'm like, great. And I just started using it a ton. So that voice that's off camera that you hear is Mark Robb.

[Shane Topp]

Aw.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. And we've come full circle.

[Damien Holmes]

Yep.

[Shane Topp]

That's great.

[Courtney Miller]

Now he's my roommate.

[Shane Topp]

I miss having roommates. I'm not gonna lie.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. I feel like I. For a. I like living alone, but after we had that, like, smosh party over the weekend.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, the Smosh summer party.

[Shane Topp]

The Smosh summer party. Yeah. That was just a fun little night. And, like, seeing our crew's house was so sick. And, like, that's how my previous roommates. That's how we wanted our place to look when we lived together. But, like, we were all, like, too poor and, like, couldn't make it. And it was also three guys. It was their first time living away from home. And boys, I love you, but mama fairy is gone. Yep, the dishes don't disappear anymore.

[Courtney Miller]

Also, shame on you if you already made your mom do all the dishes.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

Pull some weight, kids.

[Shane Topp]

Dude. Coming from a lot of siblings, we all had those chores. I came from doing my favorite chore growing up was sweeping and doing the floors. So I. And I was the only one really doing that, for the most part, at the apartment.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, snap. You hear that?

[Damien Holmes]

Apartment mates called out, uh, oh.

[Shane Topp]

I think there's just a lot people forget that need to be cleaned in an apartment, like floors.

[Damien Holmes]

It's also a tough thing with roommates. Cause I feel like I live alone, and I have for most of my life, and I will go through phases where I'm bad at doing the dishes or whatever or taking out the trash.

[Courtney Miller]

That's trash.

[Damien Holmes]

And you go in and out of those. But when you live with roommates, you really notice when your roommates are going through that phase, but you're unaware of when you're going through that phase, so that can be tough.

[Courtney Miller]

There's less pressure because, you know, if you're okay with it.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

And you don't have to worry about, like, you know, Barq and I being roommates. Last night, like, there were a ton of dishes piled up, and I was like, hey, what's the deal with the dishwasher? He's like, oh, it's full. I'll deal with it later. And I was like, great. As soon as you do that, I'll do the dishes and put them in and reload it. And it's like, great. So as long as there's open communication, it's fine.

[Shane Topp]

That's good.

[Courtney Miller]

If there wasn't that, it would be an issue.

[Damien Holmes]

I think when Damie and I live together, what's tough is when you have more than three roommates. Cause that communication becomes impossible. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

It's harder to place blame and stuff.

[Damien Holmes]

We sometimes we filtered through a lot of roommates in that year.

[Shane Topp]

Really?

[Damien Holmes]

When we were there.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Damien Holmes]

It was a total. How many people overall? There was four at a time. Right.

[Courtney Miller]

It was the four of us to start. Then one of our roommates left out of town or moved out. And so we had another girl that I knew from college come live with us. Then another roommate of mine that was a friend from college left for a while and had a couple move in and take his space. And then they left. He came back, and then his boyfriend moved in. And so. And that was. That was tricky for me because living with a couple is very difficult.

[Damien Holmes]

So we had two different couples.

[Courtney Miller]

Two different couples.

[Damien Holmes]

Both times, look, I'll throw shade. Cause I don't know them that well. Both times, we weren't aware it was gonna be a couple. I wasn't aware that it was gonna be a couple. And so suddenly, I think the second time.

[Courtney Miller]

The second time he asked my permission, he's like, would you be comfortable if my boyfriend moved in? And I was like, let me think about that. And then.

[Damien Holmes]

That's right. The second time was a little bit more known. The first time I didn't know. And I was like, what is this? And yeah, it was a lot of cars in our driveway. So that would sometimes be a thing. You'd get up, I'd get up 6 in the morning. I'd be like, well, gotta wake up three people to move their cars to get out. And that would happen sometimes. Yeah, it was a thing. And then sometimes the dishes were just there.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, yeah, they ruined a pan of mine. Cause they scrubbed it with like, steel wool. And the bottom of it, it was extremely scratched. So I had to, like, hit up my. The actual friend that I knew. And I was like, hey, man, like, the friends you had move in, they just destroyed a lot of my, like, cookware, and I don't really know how to bring it up.

[Damien Holmes]

They were messy. They were messy.

[Courtney Miller]

We call them. We delightfully and lovingly call them. They were a couple of dirty hippies, dude.

[Damien Holmes]

When they first moved in, I pretty quickly was like, they're kind of dirty. And Damian was. Was giving the benefit of the doubt. He was like, nah, man, they're great. Like, they're good people. Like, you know, I think they're just getting used to it. Maybe they're just, like, adjusting, whatever. And then, like, cut to two months later, Damien just like, oh, my God.

[Courtney Miller]

Should I tell the gross story?

[Damien Holmes]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I got a face full of the gross story. Oh, wait. Oh, there's several. You have a growth. You have a worse story.

[Courtney Miller]

1.

[Damien Holmes]

I have a different growth story. All right, you go first.

[Courtney Miller]

So this is really rough. Y'all prepare yourself. Skip to, like, a minute and a half from now if gross things ain't your thing.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

So I just opened the door one day to the bathroom that was shared. There were two bathrooms. One was me and this couple, and the first couple, the hippie one, not the ones that I actually knew. And so I open up the door, and I'm just hit with this ungodly smell. And I realize the girl and the couple was on her period. She had taken out a tampon and wrapped it in a toilet paper roll to be like, I'll deal with this later. Left it on the counter and wasn't running the fan, was running the heater. So it was a full day of hot air, cooked, period. Fly baked tamp. It was just like. Like, it was just. It was. Oh, my.

[Shane Topp]

That is not cool, man.

[Courtney Miller]

It was not particularly hygienic.

[Shane Topp]

That is. That.

[Courtney Miller]

That was.

[Shane Topp]

But she must have been so embarrassed.

[Courtney Miller]

I didn't bring that.

[Damien Holmes]

I don't think. I don't think they just threw it away.

[Shane Topp]

And.

[Damien Holmes]

No, but also. Also, I can't stress, like, they seemed like people that didn't care. That's the only.

[Courtney Miller]

That's nice, too. Like, they were really nice.

[Damien Holmes]

Look, I have relatives who are like this people who just aren't bothered by messiness at all. So their apartments will be messy. Their homes will be super messy, and it doesn't bother them. That's fine. But when you live with roommates that Gets really tough because I'm super bothered by that. Like, living alone, I. I can handle disorganization. I can't handle, like, if a piece of food is just on a. On a counter, I'm like, I gotta get. That's gross. That's slimy and gross. And it'll start to smell.

[Courtney Miller]

Unless it's bananas.

[Damien Holmes]

Unless it's bananas, which I got all over the place. No. So my gross story was, after they moved out, they. They were really bad. They would leave food all over the place. They, like, our fridge was gross when they were there. Cause they would just leave unopened food all over. Oh, my God. And, like, not. Not throwing things away, but after they. It was like a month after they left, after they moved out, and I was like, oh, we're like, thank God they're gone. Like, nice people. But, God, I'm so, like, not good roommates.

[Courtney Miller]

Nice people. Not good roommates.

[Damien Holmes]

Right? We were getting a lot of fruit flies, and I was like, what is up with this? I'm like, we're cleaning. I'm like. And we were. All us all being roommates. We all had our specific cupboards and, like, shelves that were ours, so we knew to clean those, take care of. And we're getting so many fruit flies. I'm like, where are these coming from? They're not coming from the fridge. There's no food out on the counter that I see. Eventually one night, I look at a cupboard that. I'm like, whose cupboard is that? None of us have been using that for a while. So I go and I open it, and I'm talking like a horror movie. Just a swarm of fruit flies, Winnie.

[Courtney Miller]

The Pooh style, Like a cartoon.

[Damien Holmes]

Like a cloud of black flies out. And I think Damian probably heard from his room, me just going, oh, my God. And he comes out to the kitchen. He's like, flies everywhere.

[Courtney Miller]

And what they had left was like, honest to God, we don't know. It was a literal black sludge. It wasn't even the shape of a fruit or anything anymore. It was just black.

[Damien Holmes]

And it was high up in one of the top shelves of a cupboard. So we just didn't see it and somehow didn't smell it, and it just rotted. And I mean, it was awful. We threw that away and then set up a ton of fruit fly traps and just had just. God. Oh, no.

[Courtney Miller]

So this brings us all back to the original point. Courtney, you miss having roommates? Do you miss having roommates, Courtney?

[Shane Topp]

I think if I were to go back into the Roommate game. It'd have to be in a house like the crew did. And it has to be like, people that I know. And I don't want to be people that are moving out of their mommy's house for the first time.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, that's a big one.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. Noah, sorry you're out of the race. If we were ever to become roommates. Cause you used to live with your mommy, but. Yeah, that's awful. It never got bad like that for me.

[Damien Holmes]

Well, and also for the crew living together. They're all a little bit older and just cool. Cause you know, I look back on what I was even like when we were still roommates, whatever. And I was 22. 22, 23. Yeah. I mean, I am much more organized and clean now than I was then.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Damien Holmes]

I mean, that's just the fact of the matter, I think.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. I had a mystery pooper, though. So when I first moved into our place, I was like, guys, sorry, I need the master because I need my bedroom connected to my bathroom. Cause I'm the only girl in the house.

[Damien Holmes]

I think that's totally fair.

[Shane Topp]

I like to walk from between my bathroom and my bedroom and don't have clothes on yet.

[Courtney Miller]

Is that how you presented it though? Like, sorry, guys, it's just the way it is. I have to.

[Shane Topp]

No, I just. And I said I was like, I paid more for it and stuff. But like, so I had my own bathroom and I had a squatty potty. A nice one. To this day, I still have it. It's like a nice wooden one. Squatty potties, guys get them. They help you with your poops and they're very comfortable.

[Courtney Miller]

I don't need help.

[Damien Holmes]

I have a pull up bar above my toilet and I hang upside down.

[Courtney Miller]

You don't even poop. You just lift once and it stays in the same spot. The poop just suspends in air.

[Damien Holmes]

I hang like a bat from my ceiling.

[Shane Topp]

Oh my God.

[Damien Holmes]

Just poop down my. Just trails down my back.

[Courtney Miller]

It's only natural, you guys. It's how we were designed, guys.

[Damien Holmes]

It's. It's new age medicine. It's how you rid your body of toxins.

[Courtney Miller]

I do a pull up and then I kiss a little essential oil right at the top.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, my God. Which also helps me. What is this Squatty potties? What are you in the 70s?

[Courtney Miller]

Is that a 70s thing?

[Shane Topp]

No, I was just trying to make squatty potty sound old.

[Ryan]

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[Shane Topp]

Mm. Okay, so I had a Scotty hottie. And this is a commodity. You know, some people need to a commode commodity.

[Courtney Miller]

So had to.

[Shane Topp]

So sometimes like after a day of being away, I leave my apartment's clean, smelling normal. Then I come home and like some roommates are home and I'd open my bathroom door and it's like someone destroyed my bathroom while I was away.

[Damien Holmes]

Oh, there's been a lot of times.

[Courtney Miller]

This happened more than once.

[Shane Topp]

Uh huh. And I would, I would. We'd had a group chat and I'd be like, hey guys, please ask me before you enter my space and use my bathroom. Like if you need to use my bathroom, go for it. But like, I feel uncomfortable. People go through my. Open my door that's shut. Go through my bedroom into the bathroom and not see me.

[Damien Holmes]

Totally, totally.

[Shane Topp]

So like, they would all be like, yeah, for sure, totally. And then it happens.

[Damien Holmes]

One of them's a liar.

[Shane Topp]

I was like, dude, unless there's some.

[Courtney Miller]

And they just.

[Shane Topp]

Landlord. No, they would flush. It would just smell awful. Or like, clearly things were moved around.

[Damien Holmes]

You've got yourself a poopy ghost.

[Shane Topp]

Poopy ghost.

[Courtney Miller]

Those are the worst ones.

[Shane Topp]

And then it got to the point where like two of the roommates were like, dude, I seriously don't know what the hell's going on. One of them had their own bathroom as well. Like they were attached to a bathroom. So there was no reason for them to go into mine.

[Damien Holmes]

There was three total bathrooms.

[Shane Topp]

There's two. So it was like a one that was. It was connected to another bedroom and connected to the kitchen.

[Damien Holmes]

What probably happened is one of them was using it and the other one had to take a just massive dump and was like, I gotta. You know what? I gotta enter the lair.

[Shane Topp]

Oh no.

[Courtney Miller]

Dumper's gotta dump, dude.

[Damien Holmes]

Dumper's gotta dump.

[Shane Topp]

But it got to the point where I was like finding evidence of like which roommate. It was like a specific kind of steven like, there's a specific kind of hair. And I was like, I know which roommate this is.

[Damien Holmes]

Oh, my God. God. Well, only one of my roommates takes hairy poobs.

[Courtney Miller]

Like.

[Shane Topp]

I've seen all your crotches. I know which pubes this was. No, it was. They each had very distinct hairstyles. So I. It was very obvious and just like, it never. It never got addressed.

[Damien Holmes]

Oh, man, that sucks.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Damien Holmes]

There is literally nothing better than. I think the number one perk of living alone is taking dumps in your home. Alone is the greatest thing of all time.

[Shane Topp]

With the door open.

[Damien Holmes]

Oh, no. See, I love full on security. Like, I wish I had a compound like Area 51, where I'm like, well, I gotta use the bathroom. I go, there's an elevator. Welcome back, sir. Heading down to level 50. It's like, good thing, sir. See you in a month. And like, I take this elevator down to the core of the earth, and it's a airtight cell. Like, nothing's getting in there. Nukes could not affect this place. And there is a single toilet, and I can use that.

[Courtney Miller]

But if you die there, no one would find you. Oh, what's up?

[Shane Topp]

What is your ideal bathroom? Like, what would you keep in there in that bathroom in the core of the Earth that if you died, you'd probably be lost?

[Damien Holmes]

You know, probably some nice essential oils, like, you know, like some nice scents. A candle or two. Wow. One of those, like, old school, like, bathtubs that are kind of like out in the open, not attached to a wall.

[Courtney Miller]

The claw bathtub.

[Damien Holmes]

Yes, one of those just right next to it. I would never use it, but it's just there for decoration.

[Courtney Miller]

Inside of it is a harpist.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, no, but see that, that ruins the vibe. It had to be a robot harpist because I can't have a human. Can't have a human there.

[Courtney Miller]

I thought that was implied.

[Damien Holmes]

And yet somehow, if I had a cat, that cat would still find its way to the doorway of that cell and just be clawing underneath it.

[Courtney Miller]

They love rubbing up against my legs when I'm taking the Duke.

[Damien Holmes]

There is something cats just despise. When you close the door and take. Take a dump. They're like, no, what are you doing? What are you doing in there?

[Shane Topp]

It's weird, actually. Cause I was helping someone who had gotten a cat, and it's actually good to put their litter boxes in more social places, like, instead of hiding it away. So I wonder if they're like, why are you hiding your boobs?

[Damien Holmes]

You gotta be social with Your boobs. I'd love to give a show.

[Courtney Miller]

All right, everyone, if you would look towards the foyer. Hey, everybody, I'm going to drop Duke several. Duke, what are you sparing for? It's a party. Hey.

[Shane Topp]

God.

[Damien Holmes]

Oh, God.

[Shane Topp]

Anyways, did you have a bathroom connected to the guest house when you.

[Courtney Miller]

No.

[Damien Holmes]

When I lived with Damian, I lived in this back house area that was really not meant to be lived in.

[Courtney Miller]

Let's just call it a sunroom attached to a garage.

[Damien Holmes]

That's really what it was. It had cement walls. It's not a guest house. Cement walls, terracotta floor.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, your back wall was the neighbor's fence. Yes, my back wall was concrete gate.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, the back wall was the cement wall that the other side was another person's backyard. Also, another wall was just the wall for the garage, and it had a window into the garage, even though it would be pitch black at night. So I'm like, that.

[Courtney Miller]

I ran an extension cord through so you could use.

[Damien Holmes]

Damien was super useful in, like, setting up, because it really wasn't meant to be lived in. It had one outlet, and we were, like, trying to figure out. But so I put my wardrobe up against that window, even though late at night, like, I'd be sleeping, and I would see the light go on if you were doing laundry or whatever.

[Courtney Miller]

It was not ideal.

[Damien Holmes]

And that.

[Courtney Miller]

That.

[Damien Holmes]

That garage was also just kind of creepy because it was just dirty and, like, weird.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. Found a stray cat. Get in there once. That was an adventure.

[Damien Holmes]

We had a bunch. So we had a bunch of stray cats. We had a family of stray cats in our backyard, and they would chill on my sunroof a lot of the times. So I'd wake up and just see a couple, like, laying on it.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, speaking of laying around your guest house, you had an interesting thing happen.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, yeah. I want to hear this story.

[Damien Holmes]

So, yeah, the guest house had a sliding glass door, which, when I first moved in, didn't have curtains or anything. So it was just kind of like, here I am. Here's my whole room. So I had to put up curtains, but they were kind of like. I could see shadows moving back and forth on the other side of it. And, you know, people would go in and out. We didn't use our front door a lot because I think it was kind of broken. Right.

[Courtney Miller]

Was it the front door?

[Damien Holmes]

The front door was broken, so you had to use the back door. So people would enter and exit through the back door. So I got very used to that. And one day, I'm at Home. And all of a sudden, I see a couple figures walk past. And I'm like, who is that? And they just go to our backyard, but they're walking slowly, and I'm like, what is this?

[Shane Topp]

What time of day was it?

[Damien Holmes]

Middle of the day.

[Shane Topp]

What?

[Damien Holmes]

Like, middle of the day? I just wanna say 2 or 3 o'clock p.m. damian's not home. I'm home. And one of our other roommates is home, and she was inside the main house. So I kind of, like, look out one of my windows, and I see it's just two teenagers. Clearly, like a couple. Like, I don't know how old. I'm assuming teenagers. They look like teenagers. And they're kind of, like, walking around, and I'm just like, what the hell are they doing trespassing in our backyard? And they go around our corner to the other side, where it's just an.

[Shane Topp]

Like the side yard.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, side.

[Damien Holmes]

Side yard, whatever. And they walk back there, and I'm like, what are they doing back there? And suddenly I see his feet just, like, laying out from the side. And I'm like, all right. I don't know what they're doing. I become, like an old man here. I'm like, what are these teens doing back here? Well, you texted me, I texted Damien, and as they were walking back, I sent him a photo of just these people in our backyard. I'm just like, there are people in our backyard. I don't know what they're doing here. They didn't do anything because I opened up my sunglass door. I run into the house. Shut the. Shut the door kind of hard so that I'm like, they'll hear that. And I talked to my other roommate. I'm like, there some teens in our backyard. There are teens in our backyard, and they're up to mischief. And she kind of walks out, and we're in the kitchen, and we're just like. She's like, what are they doing? I'm like, I don't know what they're doing. And all of a sudden, they come back around, and they're just in the backyard, and they're kind of looking through our window. They probably saw us just looking at them. And they just slowly make their way back and just leave. And I'm like, yeah, whatever. I don't know if they're trying to, like.

[Courtney Miller]

I think they were trying to, like, find a nice secluded spot to make whoopee if we're gonna keep sounding like.

[Damien Holmes]

Elderly f. Yeah, I mean, whatever. Because I'm assuming, like, they probably live on the street with their family, so they have no privacy or whatever. And so they thought, let's. You know what? You know the best place to find privacy? Someone else's backyard where there are several.

[Courtney Miller]

Cars in the driveway.

[Damien Holmes]

Tons, like, obvious people are home. And I'm like, what are you thinking? And also, they're lucky. Like, I'm like, there's a lot of crazy people that lived on that street. I'm like, if you would have been.

[Courtney Miller]

A territorial person who's like, get off my property. I have a gun. Like, that could have gone south. Real dude.

[Damien Holmes]

That. And that happened. Like, there are crazy people who are excited about the idea of someone entering their property unwanted.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, I'm ready to go.

[Damien Holmes]

I'm, like, lucky that I was like, just leave, please. I'm glad I didn't have to confront them. I'm glad they just left.

[Shane Topp]

I can't believe it was in the middle of the day.

[Damien Holmes]

A lot of it made no sense.

[Shane Topp]

And you mean, like, really, like, young teens or like 16, 17?

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, probably more like that. They could have been 20 for all I know. Like, they. I had no idea. But he looked like a young skater dude and his skater girlfriend. Like, that's what they looked like.

[Courtney Miller]

Sick.

[Damien Holmes]

So sick, dude. It was one of the weirdest instances there. And we also had. Yeah, I was also wasn't sure if it would be. We had a neighbor who was a elderly man who had a little bit.

[Courtney Miller]

Of dementia I think he was suffering.

[Damien Holmes]

From sometimes would kind of enter our property as well, like, bring in our trash cans or whatever. He was. He was a really sweet guy, but. So I was used. I wasn't, like. I was kind of used to that idea of, oh, there might be. Could be a number of people.

[Shane Topp]

That's wild.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, it's weird.

[Shane Topp]

That's scary, man. Like, living alone. I think the one thing that. Other than, like, the fact that you don't have roommates, they're, like, around. Chumming around. Being bunnies.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

Pooping in your toilet.

[Shane Topp]

Pooping in my stuff. Pooping everywhere. The fear factor. Like, the. Like. Cause I. When I had Django, there was one time when someone, like, entered my little yard area and, like, that. That scared the shit out of me. It was like, middle of the night, I woke up to Django growling, which he always does. He'll just hear a noise, and he'll growl a little bit, and I'll calm him down, go back to sleep. But I don't calm him down too much. Cause I actually like that behavior. I Was very lucky that he happened to be a really good watchdog. But one night he was really growling and I heard a gate open and I couldn't tell if it was mine or the person next to me. But then next thing you know, I hear my motion detecting camera go off, like on my phone, like seconds after my dog detected the person. And I look at the video and this man busted through and it looked like he was drunk. But I couldn't tell if he noticed the camera and ran away or didn't even mean to push my door open. But at the time, the gate was really hard to open. Like I've had to adjust it and fix it to make it easier. So I think it took a little bit of work for him to get that thing open. I was terrified. Luckily, the neighbor above me, I texted her, I was like, hey, do you know what's going on? And she sent her gladiator giant boyfriend out to hell. Yeah, he closed my gate. Gate for me and even walked around. I called the police and reported it and stuff since I have the video. But like, that stuff freaks me the hell out. And like, if I didn't. If I didn't have the roommate to text, like, I don't. I wouldn't have been. I didn't sleep very good that night anyway. But like, that stuff's scary, dude. Like that. Then that's why it's cool like that. I grew up being surrounded by people my whole life.

[Damien Holmes]

Well, that's what's nice about living. That is a perk also of living in an apartment complex is like, there are people who are generally in the room next to you who will hear stuff. Like, I live in a very busy apartment complex and there are constantly people walking past like, you're never gonna get a chance to. Like, there will be people around. My landlord lives in the room next to mine, which it's the only perk, I would say.

[Shane Topp]

Your landlord lives next to you?

[Damien Holmes]

She lives in the. Or she's. Yeah, she's often in the apartment like right next to mine, which usually sucks. Cause it's just like, ah. Like I can't make too much noise probably. Yeah, but she's often like out and about, so she would see anything suspicious.

[Courtney Miller]

Sorry. I had something weird kind of happen the other day that you reminded me of.

[Shane Topp]

Oh my God.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, dude, I think I mentioned this to you.

[Shane Topp]

Apartment lights.

[Courtney Miller]

So I was. I was streaming on Saturday and then when I finally finished up, I looked at my phone and I had like a bunch of missed texts and calls from My roommate. And it was only like 15 minutes before the end of my stream, so I just missed it. But it was all like, hey, man, a little urgent. Can you come down here? Hey, dude. Super urgent. Check your phone, dude. Cops are here. And it was like, whoa, What? And so apparently the lady that lived next to me, who was a little older, and, you know, I only met her because I moved in pretty recently, so I'd only met her once or twice. She had just gotten out of the hospital. Apparently, she passed away and had been there for quite some time, which is, you know, there's. Dying alone is incredibly sad, but for, like, no one to notice for a long time, that really sucks. And so they wanted to talk to me because I had seen an ambulance outside of our place leaving her area, like, a few weeks back. So I honestly thought she had passed away then.

[Damien Holmes]

You told me about that. Yeah, you go. I remember it was a few weeks ago. You were like, I think my neighbor passed away. And I was like, oh, yeah, so sorry.

[Courtney Miller]

I thought it happened. So I came home from work, right? And I see a firefighter slash paramedic come out of her place. And I, like, nod and smile, and he sort of gives a look like, you know, like a solemn nod in her slips. And then another guy comes out, and I nod and smile, and he does the same kind of like. Like, grim look. And so I thought she'd passed then, but for her to. I guess she passed after that. And so whatever. But either way, it was just. It kind of screwed me up all weekend because, one, the idea of it is very sad. But two, like, they're this very thin wall, you know, separating me from a person decaying for like a week, two weeks, I don't know. But it was just like, oof.

[Damien Holmes]

That's sad. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

So scary.

[Damien Holmes]

I'm surprised if she was having, like, recurring things like that. That she wasn't in hospice or.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, she had, like, a lot of helpers. Like, I'd often see people leaving her place who looked like they just made, like, a delivery. And she'd be like, all right, thank you very much. Thank you. Goodbye. And so I think, like, can you deliver this? And also help me reach this light bulb kind of situation. Yeah, yeah.

[Shane Topp]

There's like, hospice type stuff where someone will come by for a few hours a day.

[Damien Holmes]

I think it happens a lot, and I think with, you know, with elderly people who live alone, I mean, it just. It just happens, man. I mean, I certainly hope, you know, she. She might have just passed away in her Sleep or something like that.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, they also wanted to talk to me and Rumi Mark because they were saying like, yeah, we have to make sure it's not a murder. And I'm like, oh my God.

[Damien Holmes]

Do you think she.

[Shane Topp]

Like, maybe she fell?

[Courtney Miller]

I think it was probably a slip and fall situation. That was my guess. I don't know anything about it. And it even feels weird to, you know.

[Shane Topp]

But still it's so crazy like when it's real, like. Cause you hear about it or see it in movies and you're like, oh, it's this thing. But then when it's real, it's like not the same at all.

[Damien Holmes]

It happens all the time. I've read. And I honestly, it's weird. Cause in these past couple weeks I've read several stories about that where it much worse. Where it left like people for years are. Oh, you were mentioning that there was one. Some story I read. I don't have the link or anything, but I think it happened in Sweden. An elderly woman, it was like 10 years. Oh my God. In her place. And some like she had automatic payments set up for everything. So no bills, like racked up and somehow the smell or whatever didn't, you know, get around. So. You know, it is really sad though. Cause that, you know, a lot of elderly people, maybe they just don't have family or whatever.

[Shane Topp]

That sucks that they were just eating away at her funds too. Like as. For years.

[Damien Holmes]

Well, yeah. Cause that means she. Those payments shouldn't have been a thing because it's not a. Yeah, it's tough, man. It's so tough.

[Shane Topp]

I don't think she was watching Black Mirror in her afterlife, you know, paying for that Netflix.

[Damien Holmes]

I think also there's a lot of. My grandmother was, you know, she lived alone up until the very end. And like a lot of. A lot of people are just very proud and. And they don't want to go live in a home or whatever. So they want to live. Live by themselves. But at that age, anything can happen. I mean, it just sucks. But.

[Courtney Miller]

Sorry to make this a downer.

[Shane Topp]

No, it's okay.

[Damien Holmes]

And like I will say, it also reminds me forever ago. And I've thought about it myself too, because I'm always like, if I. In my apartment by myself, if I ever start choking, my immediate thing before I even try to get it out is I'm like, I'm gonna open up my front door and I'm gonna. Or at least leave the front door open so that I'm like, if I choke, whatever. People Will, like, you should have a.

[Courtney Miller]

Little metal pipe by your door so that you can go out to, like, a gate or something and be like, rr and like, really?

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Everyone should just have a bell.

[Damien Holmes]

Like in the old west, when they would avoid getting buried alive, so they'd have a bell attached to the coffin.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, my God.

[Shane Topp]

I can't believe that that's a thing that people would have the bell. I wonder if it.

[Damien Holmes]

I don't think it. I think you'd probably suffocate.

[Courtney Miller]

No, I think there are stories, though.

[Damien Holmes]

Is that really?

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Damien Holmes]

Wow. Hey. God, that would be the worst.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. Dude.

[Damien Holmes]

He's ringing the bell over and over again.

[Courtney Miller]

Nobody hears it.

[Damien Holmes]

Someone's like, hey, that's a very lively skeleton. Better leave him be.

[Shane Topp]

God damn, dude.

[Courtney Miller]

That's adorable.

[Shane Topp]

Have you ever lived alone, Damien?

[Courtney Miller]

I have my first ever bachelor pad. After Shane and I were on Disney, I lived alone. It was looking back the prices nine years ago, I was just like, I paid that for my own apartment with laundry. Like, oh, man, I miss those days. It was a great apartment. I really enjoyed it. I became too reclusive because that's my natural state. And I think that's why it's good for me to live with people. I realized, other than recording voiceover auditions, because that's right when I started that out, I would go literal days without talking to or seeing another human being, and I was like, ooh, I like this too much. I need to not do this for my health, probably.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. Dang.

[Courtney Miller]

It was a great apartment. I would never have left except for, you know, I wanted to live with roommates again. And that's when I moved into that house with Shane and my other buddies. And roots often grew into the pipe system, so sometimes it would back up. And me being on the bottom floor, I often had poop tornadoes come out of my tub.

[Shane Topp]

No.

[Courtney Miller]

And I was like. I ended up cleaning it up myself because I'm like, I'm not gonna hire some poor old lady to be like, hey, can you come on by and clean the crap out of my tub? Don't worry. None of it's mine.

[Shane Topp]

I swear. It's not mine.

[Courtney Miller]

This was not my poop. I know my poop. It's not my poop.

[Shane Topp]

I love the smell of my poop. It definitely doesn't smell like this.

[Courtney Miller]

I just remembered the smell. Mm.

[Damien Holmes]

Brutal.

[Courtney Miller]

Nope.

[Damien Holmes]

Oh, God.

[Courtney Miller]

Bathroom was nice, though. We're talking, like, all black stone countertops and black stone floor and original crown molding. It was great.

[Shane Topp]

How long did you Guys live together about a year. Only a year?

[Courtney Miller]

A little longer, right?

[Damien Holmes]

Like maybe a month or two longer.

[Courtney Miller]

I think at that time that's when I started dating an ex girlfriend. And I ended up spending most of my time at her place as. As those things go. So we were still roommates for a big chunk of it. But I would only check in once every couple weeks and be like, yeah, hi, I live here.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. So yeah, you were connected. Shane's thing was connected to the place. So wait, did you have to go like when you had to go to the bathroom?

[Damien Holmes]

I'd have to leave. I'd have to open up my sliding. If it was in the middle of the night, I would have to open up my sliding glass door, just take. Walk out like past, like kind of just up some steps to the back door, unlock it, get inside, then use the bathroom, then get back out, lock, re. Lock the door, go back, open up my sliding glass door.

[Shane Topp]

And then would you ever just like. Just be like, I'll hold it. Fuck it.

[Damien Holmes]

Sometimes I mean. Yeah, it sucked, man. It really. That was probably the worst part about it.

[Shane Topp]

What if it was raining?

[Damien Holmes]

It never rains.

[Courtney Miller]

There was a little awning over the top.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, I wouldn't bother. But we also covered driveway. This was during the 50 year drought that we were in. So rain's not a problem.

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[Damien Holmes]

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[Courtney Miller]

Oh God.

[Damien Holmes]

So sun would go through the sunroof, heat up that room because it's cement and terracotta. And it would be. I think it was around in the 90s in my room.

[Courtney Miller]

Jesus. It was so greenhouse effect because it.

[Damien Holmes]

Was a greenhouse effect. It was essentially a greenhouse. And it was so hot that I would be dripping sweat in the middle of the night.

[Courtney Miller]

It was dope.

[Damien Holmes]

It was really awful. And then in the winter it would be the opposite where It'd be like 50 degrees in that room and I would wake up and Just immediately throw a fur blanket around and just like, be watching TV in a fur blanket.

[Courtney Miller]

That sounds nice.

[Damien Holmes]

It made me really, honestly, before that, I lived in an apartment with great AC and everything and had become very sensitive to temperatures. After that, after that, I can handle anything. I still don't use my AC that often.

[Courtney Miller]

Wow.

[Damien Holmes]

I just. Am I. Yeah, I can handle. Yeah, handle it.

[Courtney Miller]

What I did love, though, I'm just getting a lot of, like, sense memories right now. There's something about your room, the way it was set up. Like, you've always taken great care of your space. Right. Like, if you have any extra money, you're like, I want to live in a good organized space, or I want to buy some clothes that make me feel good about myself. So anyway, going into your room, I remember the smell of like, that wardrobe that you bought that was pine. And so it was like a nice pine smell with the heat mixed with the fabric of like a new sofa, things like that. And I just. I don't know. I really loved being in that space.

[Damien Holmes]

It was nice to visit when the temperature was nice. It was actually. I felt really proud of the room because I had made what was essentially a non livable space livable. And that was cool. I mean, there was a lot of things that did suck. I'd get a lot of like, daddy long legs spiders in there.

[Courtney Miller]

But those are friendly.

[Damien Holmes]

Those are friendly, but they're just so creepy looking. So when I'm trying to sleep, the thought of one crawling across my face was not cool. Damon, your room was really cool. I liked your room a lot.

[Courtney Miller]

I liked it a lot too. It was. It was the master. Thank you. And I, you know, because I'm a reclusive person, if my room functions as like a studio apartment, I'm happy. And I also worked out of there because I worked customer support at the time. Oh, yeah. So I had my computer set up, which I'd built. I had a nice bed. I had a couch and a tv. Almost was like a separate seating area. And because everything was a very square layout, you could fit everything. So I really liked that space. I didn't like that the walls were so thin you could hear everything all the time, forever.

[Damien Holmes]

See, that was nice for me, living out in the. That was a benefit because I was separated. So I felt like I had privacy in that weird way. But I would wake up some mornings and I would hear Damian doing customer support already. Like, you start super early.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Damien Holmes]

So like 5:30 in the morning, or would it be like 6?

[Courtney Miller]

It would be like 6 or 7, I think.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

But pretty, pretty early, especially if I had voiceover to get done first. And I tried. I did a little game with myself. I don't think I can say the company I worked for because I don't want to give away like trade secrets or whatever. So I'll just go like bop, bop. And so I would try to make my voice sound not necessarily robotic, but like a recording and just it would really disarm people so that when they figured out I was a real person, they'd be like, oh, I forgot that I was pissed off. So I'd be like, thank you for calling Bop Up Customer support. My name is Damien. How can I help you today? They'd be like, ah, great, another recording. I'm like, nope, I'm a real person, I promise.

[Shane Topp]

And they'd be like, you can trust me.

[Courtney Miller]

You really, you're a real person, not a recording. I'd be like, nope, I have hair, emotions, everything. I'm a human.

[Damien Holmes]

Did you really say that?

[Courtney Miller]

I would say that all the time. I have hair, emotions, everything.

[Damien Holmes]

Hair, emotions. That is really what makes a person not a robot. Yep.

[Courtney Miller]

And emotions. I will say I had the top customer support rating in the whole gosh dang.

[Shane Topp]

Wow. Do they have your picture somewhere?

[Damien Holmes]

That's really cool.

[Courtney Miller]

I don't think they do because I almost got fired from that job because my. I was so when I first started there, they were super. That face is incredible. Be sure to watch the podcast to see that face. So when I first started there, they were super. Like, you know what, we do customer support differently. We want to be the place that'll like fix it no matter what. So if someone needs like a refund, great. If somebody needs a couple free, this great. Like whatever you do can make to make them happy. We want to keep that reputation. It was like, great. And then slowly but surely that became like, alright, guys, we're a corporation and we need more numbers. Better numbers, bigger numbers. Do it faster, do it better. And so I was still in the mindset of like, I want to help people. Like, people would call in and be like, you know, hi, I'm wheelchair bound. I can't move anything but my neck. I will be using voice to speech to type in things today and I can't get into my account. That call might take me an hour to try to get that person into their account and I'm gonna do that. So my numbers started to dwindle when it was like, hey, you didn't answer 16 emails this hour. And you're like, that's correct. I was helping a disabled old man. Was like, wow, that's great and everything, but you gotta. So I was just like, I'm gonna keep doing this. I will try my best to do what you guys want, but. But I was hired with the mindset of, like, let's help people. That's what makes me enjoy this job.

[Damien Holmes]

So, so stupid.

[Courtney Miller]

By the end of it, I quit, and my direct supervisor was like, I'm glad you came to this decision on your own.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

I was just like, yeah, well, peace. So, geez.

[Damien Holmes]

Dang. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

That's wild.

[Damien Holmes]

I remember one time, somehow you. You hurt your neck at one point. So I remember you doing. You had like, that. One of those, like, oh, yeah. Neck pillow things. And like, you were doing customer support like this with this neck pillow. Just like. Thanks for calling. My name's Damian. How can I help you today?

[Shane Topp]

I have hair, emotions, everything, Pretty much everything.

[Damien Holmes]

It would be so funny, though, waking up sometimes at like, 6 in the morning, like, getting ready to go to the gym or whatever, and just hearing this faint, like, thanks for calling. So and so. My name's Damian. How can I help you? That's great. From wherever. It's so, so funny. That's so cool. And then, like, you'd immediately get off the clock and immediately charge up Dark Souls 2 or something like that.

[Courtney Miller]

Absolutely.

[Damien Holmes]

You'd be like, all right, it's gamer.

[Courtney Miller]

Time for video games. Finally I can go home from. Stay in the exact same chair and just. Oh, I was so happy. I also took long bathroom breaks.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, it was great. Honestly, that house, like, looking back, there's so many stories just because pictures. I have some photos of my room when I had this. Oh, really? Yeah. It doesn't look as bad because what made it tough was not how it looked. What made it tough was just literally like, what it was made of. Like, it was cement hiding the elements. Yeah, it was what it was. But. But it looked. It looked okay. But of the actual house, I don't think I have any, but I'm sure you do.

[Courtney Miller]

I don't. Well, I did. I think the day we moved in, I was very. Again, I was having stomach problems that I. I don't know if I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but I battled, like, major stomach issues for a long time and sometimes had trouble eating. Sometimes it would be like a day or two until I could do that again. So I, like. We moved and I hadn't eaten in a long time, and I Was very out of it. So I was just moving my car for whatever reason, and I took out this like brick structure leading to one of our staircases and I was like, well, great first day. There goes security deposit. Probably take a picture of this so I'm sure I got a picture of that somewhere. Oh, my God, what a bummer.

[Shane Topp]

I've messed up a couple security deposits. I still somehow get them back. The place where I live with the guys, the roommate one was fine, but Django chewed up the doors of my current one and the one I was living in previously, the one I hated, it was basically just like a little. It was so small.

[Courtney Miller]

You were there for like 15 minutes.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, no, I think I was there for like three months.

[Courtney Miller]

Django did work.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, I tried to fix it myself. I used that paste to kind of like shape it and I sanded it back down, but I never repainted it. It was white. But yeah, I still got the deposit back and more because they were. They were actually what? That place was terrible. They. They lied about what my rent was. They lied about a lot of things. It was crazy.

[Courtney Miller]

Place is known for that. I don't think we can say the name, but like in la, that place is known for being shitty.

[Damien Holmes]

Place I lived at when I was a teenager. When I first moved out here, it was. It's an infamous place. You probably can guess it.

[Courtney Miller]

If you're in la, you know what this is. But they gave you more money.

[Shane Topp]

Okay. Yeah, so. So. Well, first of all, for the people listening or watching, you're getting an apartment, try to find ones that are more like mom and pop vibes of the ownership or management. Sometimes that's better than a corporation because it's not as there's trade offs, but corporate ones.

[Damien Holmes]

You know, your rent is probably gonna get raised by at least a hundred bucks every year.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, but my experience, these people, they said in an email and on the tour, they said what my rent was gonna be. And then when I started making those payments online, I started seeing like the base rent was like $100 more than what they said. And normally, like, first of all, they never responded to emails ever. Like, until I moved. Like, they were super quick when I was getting in the process of moving in. But yeah, once I was in there, it was like you'd never get a response. And I had one specific person that I was always like, trying to keep my work consistent with. Like, okay, I always talk to this guy and I would call the office and be like, hey, I sent you an email. And he'd be like, yeah, what's up? I'd be like, read the email right now.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

And like, he would. And like, a lot of times, if it wasn't something like, I was lucky that in the email they said that my rent was gonna be lower than what they were charging me. Otherwise they would have been like, well, sorry, you agreed to it on your contract, so you have to pay that. They also on the tour were like, oh, yeah, no, security's great here. We're gonna keep you super safe. Nobody gets in.

[Courtney Miller]

Everyone gets in there.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, dude. All I have to say is like, oh, I'm an Uber. And then they don't even check any credentials. Like, nothing. They just let you in. And like, when I. I went back in my contract, and in your contract, it says, like, we did not tell you that we could keep you safe from anything. We have no responsibility over your security. And we did not tell you that we could keep you safe.

[Courtney Miller]

Get out of here.

[Shane Topp]

Like, literally protecting their own people.

[Damien Holmes]

Like that in super fine text. It's very small. It just says we have Tremors. Don't worry about it. Wait, what's this thing about tremors? What? Just don't put your boombox on the ground.

[Courtney Miller]

Haven't heard of Tremors in a long ass time.

[Damien Holmes]

I thought it was a perfect time for a Tremors reference. Tremors is an awesome movie about giant monster worms that live underground that react to sound and will eat anything.

[Courtney Miller]

Tremors 2 is better, just so everyone knows.

[Damien Holmes]

Which is the one with Chuck Norris. Is that there's one with Chuck Norris, or am I completely making that up? Is that a weird childhood memory where, like, I. I made something up? Because I've seen. Maybe I am. I am making it up. It was Kevin Bacon in the first Tremors.

[Courtney Miller]

I saw a tweet the other day that was.

[Damien Holmes]

Thought Chuck Norris was in one of them, but I think I'm completely wrong. I think that's my memory. Yeah, you saw from when I was like, six, watching a movie, making things up.

[Courtney Miller]

I saw a tweet the other day that was like.

[Damien Holmes]

Yo, Jimmy, pull that up.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. What?

[Courtney Miller]

Dean, while you're looking for that, I saw a tweet the other day that was like, Was this a real animated movie or just a childhood fever dream starter kit?

[Damien Holmes]

I saw that.

[Courtney Miller]

Rock a doodle Doo. Once Upon a forest.

[Damien Holmes]

We're back. We're back.

[Courtney Miller]

A dinosaur story. And then Rodney Danger. Not Rodney Dangerfield.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

Rover Dangerfield.

[Damien Holmes]

Rover Dangerfield. Danger Field. So Chuck Norris is not in them, but There is an assistant editor named.

[Shane Topp]

Charles Norris who did Tremors 5.

[Courtney Miller]

You're probably thinking of the assistant editor.

[Damien Holmes]

I'm thinking of the assistant editor.

[Shane Topp]

Made that mistake.

[Damien Holmes]

I. Oh, this is changing the subject kind of. But I remember watching Tremors when I was staying with my grandparents in Florida. I would stay with them for like a month or so in the summers when I was a kid, when I was like, 7 to 12 years old. And back then, you know, there wasn't Netflix. There wasn't any back in my day. But so I would end up watching so weird, random movies. And one time I was watching a Chuck Norris movie with my grandpa, and there comes apart in this movie. It's some cheesy, cheesy, like, random Chuck Norris movie where, like, Chuck Norris and this other guy have, like, each other at a standoff. They both have their guns pointed at each other, and they both drop their guns and, like, lift up their hands and they start, you know, throwing hands, roundhouse kicks, whatever. And my grandpa, like, in all earnest, just. Just goes. Now, see, they dropped their guns because they want to test each other's kung fu abilities. Like, dead serious. Like, he was just teaching. He thought it was a teaching mortality. See, what they're doing here, grandson, is they're dropping their guns because they need to test each other in kung fu.

[Courtney Miller]

See, Chuck Norris knows Wushu Kwan, whereas this other guy is more of like a Shaolin kung fu style.

[Damien Holmes]

Legitimately breaking down a Chuck Norris movie.

[Shane Topp]

That is so funny.

[Damien Holmes]

It was honestly very cute. Like, it's an adorable moment. Yeah, it's very funny.

[Shane Topp]

You don't know what my grandpa used to do. He used to pirate DVDs and give them to us by the stack.

[Courtney Miller]

Hell, yeah.

[Damien Holmes]

My grandpa could never. My grandpa is the most honorable man. He could not break a single law.

[Courtney Miller]

He's not like a dirty rogue like you grandpa.

[Damien Holmes]

Like your grandpa.

[Shane Topp]

He would download the movies, cut out all the inappropriate parts, and then give them to us. And he would even, like, somehow get the COVID of the DVD on the disc.

[Damien Holmes]

Now it's much more adorable.

[Courtney Miller]

That's cool.

[Damien Holmes]

I like to think he recut movies so they'd have happy endings like Pulp Fiction. They're all friends at the end.

[Courtney Miller]

It's just the dancing.

[Damien Holmes]

And that's how they ended up problems.

[Shane Topp]

I don't think I saw the sex scene in Titanic until I was like, 13.

[Courtney Miller]

Wow.

[Shane Topp]

Cause I don't think I knew, like, when. Cause Marissa had. Cause Titanic was so long. If you got it on vhs, it was in two tapes, right?

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

So you'd have to take out the first one, put in the next one. And I was like, what? There's two tapes.

[Damien Holmes]

I miss that sort of stuff. Cause that was the same with video games too. There'd be some where you'd have to take out the first disc was the second.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, I just got chills thinking of a boss you fight in seven. Final Fantasy seven. And they're like, please enter disc two. And I'm like, I finally did. Was always my sister's game, so I could only get so far. And then when I finally made it to disc two, I was like, we killed Aerith.

[Damien Holmes]

Now put in disc two, dude.

[Courtney Miller]

Spoiler. You have to cut that out. They're doing the remake. So many people don't know.

[Damien Holmes]

If you don't know that by now, you're not a true gift gamer.

[Courtney Miller]

A lot of people out there aren't.

[Damien Holmes]

I guess that's fair. Gamers do.

[Courtney Miller]

What you didn't know about that you're not some kind of true gamer.

[Shane Topp]

I'm a true gamer.

[Courtney Miller]

What's your thoughts on Final Fantasy 8? Better or worse than 7?

[Shane Topp]

I haven't played a single Final Fantasy, but I've played lots of Lego and lots of Dead or Alive and lots of Star wars, buddy.

[Courtney Miller]

The same.

[Shane Topp]

There are like three video games.

[Courtney Miller]

What do you think? Squall, Titus or A Cloud. Which one's best?

[Damien Holmes]

Obviously Cloud. Cloud.

[Courtney Miller]

Shane. Good. Fair answer.

[Shane Topp]

Sun.

[Courtney Miller]

Okay, let's. Guys, thank you for joining us for Smoshcast today. This is over.

[Damien Holmes]

Gamercast is not happening.

[Shane Topp]

Gamercast. Dang it.

[Courtney Miller]

The answer was Ramza from Final Fantasy Tactics.

[Shane Topp]

By the way, that's like Final Fantasy. That's like the anime of video games, isn't it?

[Courtney Miller]

No, I wouldn't.

[Damien Holmes]

I mean, not really. There's more that are more anime than that.

[Courtney Miller]

Like the Tales series.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah. And that's the first RPG I ever played. Tales of Symphonia, baby. That. That shit changed my life. That was a great game.

[Courtney Miller]

Demon Frang.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, Kevin knows what I'm talking about.

[Courtney Miller]

He's nodding.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, it's a great game. Really, really cool. Because you're trying to save the planet. You're trying to bring back like, like happiness and joy to your. To your world. And halfway through the game you realize by doing so, Courtney's yawning. But, but listen, listen up. Halfway through the game you realize by bringing light and everything back to your world, you're sucking it out of a parallel, like, dimension. It was so.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, it was funny because back on the days of Shane and I being on so Random. My dressing room was the one where we set up some game systems so we could actually. I used to be. I don't know why. I wasn't reclusive back then, but this. At that point, I was like, hey, everyone, come hang out. So we played Tales of Symphonia together. And it only took, like, one or two boss fights where, like, I remember watching something happen. I'm like, there looks like there was a shadow in that portal. Like, there's someone on the other side. We're doing bad stuff right now, aren't we? We're gonna end up being the bad guys. Like, we're doing the bad thing. And, like, that's the. Shane was just, like.

[Damien Holmes]

That took me so long to figure out.

[Courtney Miller]

You're also, like, 10. What?

[Shane Topp]

You had your own dressing room?

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, we all did.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, we all had our own dressing rooms.

[Shane Topp]

So what were they? Like? How big were they?

[Damien Holmes]

They were pretty decent size.

[Courtney Miller]

About the size of this room.

[Damien Holmes]

I had Demi's old dressing room, I believe.

[Shane Topp]

Really?

[Damien Holmes]

I believe mine.

[Courtney Miller]

Was it haunted?

[Damien Holmes]

It was haunted by Demi Lovato.

[Courtney Miller]

He's still very much alive.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, my gosh.

[Damien Holmes]

They were very cool. It was a sweet setup. God, I remember one time playing dumb. I was playing our cast mate, Doug Brochu at Super Smash Brothers. And I just. I was on a winning streak. And he got so mad, he slammed his feet down so hard that everyone in the entire hallway of dressing rooms heard. And, like, some people came to our room, was like, is everything okay?

[Shane Topp]

Oh, my God.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, we're just kicking some arse. Don't even worry about it.

[Damien Holmes]

And I would save every. I started saving every script. And we would go through four different scripts every week. Cause we'd have several, like, writers drafts, production drafts, whatever, and final drafts, drafts. And by the end of my stint on so Random, that stack was like 6ft tall, lots of paper. And that wasn't all of them. That was just from when I started, which was like, halfway through.

[Courtney Miller]

I wish I still had those.

[Damien Holmes]

I don't believe I have a couple scripts. I've kept a lot of scripts. I have a script from my guest star on iCarly. Every guest star ever did. I kept the script. I kept a script from the indie film I did in 2008.

[Shane Topp]

So cute.

[Damien Holmes]

Kept some so random ones.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, I did that for my, like, cartoon. I do it for voiceover stuff. I did it for, like, my Cartoon Network stuff.

[Shane Topp]

Was there, like, a lot of downtime when you guys were on so Random?

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, I remember it was one of our final weeks on so Random. And me, Damian and Matthew Scott watched the final episode of Oprah. Remember that? It was one of our final days on so Random. And so we all watched the final episode of Oprah.

[Courtney Miller]

Wow.

[Damien Holmes]

And yeah, I remember that that was like kind of a very sad moment because it's like, wow, Oprah's ending, Everything's ending. And so Random.

[Courtney Miller]

Oprah, there's no TV left. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

You guys know, knew it was gonna be the final.

[Damien Holmes]

Like, we knew the season was ending. And I mean, some of us, we all had different hopes of if the show would get renewed or not. I had a feeling that it wasn't. I was very, like, pessimistic about it. I think you were you.

[Courtney Miller]

I was very hopeful because here's the thing about it. Disney shows usually go three or four seasons because that's enough that a generation grows up with that show, loving that show. Then they get. They age out of it and then the show is done by the time they like age out of it. Also, like, you know, you make more money each year with your contract, so they don't always let things go too far. It's a smart money making move for dis. Our show was a spin off of Demi Lovato's show. It was Sunny with a Chance and it became.

[Shane Topp]

I loved that show.

[Courtney Miller]

Exactly. But like after four or five years, you wouldn't have probably been into it. Right. So like, it was a spin off where they took the sketch show that was within that show and made its own thing called so Random. But contractually it was not a new thing. It was the fourth year of Sonny with a Chance and you had a lot of those actors who had been there for all four years. So it had kind of rocked on its course. And on top of that, part of their, like business model, at least as I understand it, is if you look like something like Bella Thorne show, Shake it up or kickin it or something like that. They can sell the lunch boxes. They have the Bella Thorne clothing line at Walmart that you can buy. They have all that. You don't get to do that with a sketch show.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

And so there was just, I think.

[Damien Holmes]

Probably one of the weirdest things in my life has been when I joined Smosh and just hearing all the same exact, exact things being said about me that I had heard years prior on so Random.

[Courtney Miller]

What do you mean?

[Damien Holmes]

Which is I hate all these new people. Oh, it was better when Demi was on and now then it became. I hate when Smosh added all These new people. And then it was better when Anthony was on and I'm just like you. It's the same exact situation.

[Courtney Miller]

It's hard, man.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, it's so much. People just don't. People are just resistant to change, I think. But it's necessary and there's no option. Like with so random. There was no choice. Like that's. That's just what. What both parties wanted.

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[Shane Topp]

What was your guys's first encounter with each other?

[Courtney Miller]

I know the exact moment. Oops, sorry. I bought the table. Sorry.

[Shane Topp]

How dare you.

[Courtney Miller]

Shane had already been on the show for a week or so by the time I joined. They were adding people very slowly. And so I remember getting on a set not knowing exactly where I was going, but walking by Shane. And for whatever reason, I know this sounds corny, but for whatever reason, I felt like I'm gonna know that dude. Aww, interesting. And so, yeah, then I went up for the table read and he was there. We introduced ourselves and there you go.

[Damien Holmes]

I remember. Yeah, it was the table read that I really like saw him. And I was nervous at first because I had done one episode. So they brought me on for one episode and I had assumed because it was me and like two or three other new people on top of this new cast. So I was like, oh cool. Like we're the new cast that they're adding. And then so I was like, I'm doing a good job. Like, I felt pretty good about how I did that episode. The next week I see Damien and I go, oh God, I did a terrible job and they're replacing me. That was my initial thought. It was nothing to do with, with you. I was just like, I was like, oh God, like I would have thought the same crap. Like, whatever. And then you were in the table read. You were crushing it because you had like, they all kind of like took character. Some. Some characters that we'd kind of done in our auditions or whatever. So you had like, what was it that you did, was it. What was your character?

[Courtney Miller]

The ones that I did in the table read, they all wrote for me. It wasn't anything.

[Damien Holmes]

Oh, really?

[Courtney Miller]

I don't think.

[Damien Holmes]

What was the one that you did first? It was like the something kid in. In school.

[Courtney Miller]

Zombie man or Olaf Glutella.

[Damien Holmes]

Olaf Glutella was the one.

[Courtney Miller]

Okay.

[Damien Holmes]

Olaf Glutella.

[Courtney Miller]

He was a fake foreign exchange student.

[Damien Holmes]

That's really great.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, my God.

[Damien Holmes]

And then kind of the same thing happened the following week, which is when our friend Matthew Scott joined.

[Courtney Miller]

I thought he joined before me.

[Damien Holmes]

Did he join?

[Courtney Miller]

Thought it was you and Matthew Scott. And then I came on.

[Damien Holmes]

Were you the third week?

[Courtney Miller]

I think so.

[Damien Holmes]

Then I'm getting things mixed up. Cause both times then I was like, oh, God, this person's replacing me.

[Courtney Miller]

Because Matthew Scott was after. Cause I thought. I thought the same thing. I was like, he's funny as hell.

[Damien Holmes]

Because Matthew Scott came in and Matthew Scott just has a presence about him. And he did this character that did become a huge hit on the show. So if I had known, like, and I eventually realized after like week four that I was like, we're all just staying on. That's awesome.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, here's the problem. They brought us on as guest stars, right? And so the way things are organized for tv, if you're like a main, you know, cast member, then you're there. You're pretty much there every week. If you're a co star, it's like a guest situation. And that's sort of what they kept us at. So they were like, hey, we're gonna bring you on for like two to three weeks at a time. And then, you know, nothing else and be like, great. So we would do those two weeks and be like, I don't know. And then they'd be like, oh, yeah, we're bring you on for a couple more. And it'd be like, oh, great. Finally more work. That's awes. It wasn't until pretty much near the end of it that I was like, oh, we're doing a full season of a show. But people ask, like, what was it like getting the news that you were on this show? And I'm like, I never got that news. I literally thought, like, okay, cool, one more week of work.

[Damien Holmes]

They would let us know every week if we were on the next episode. It is.

[Courtney Miller]

It's kinda sad.

[Damien Holmes]

We all missed. They would all make sure that we missed one episode each so that they could keep us as guest stars.

[Courtney Miller]

Is that why they did that?

[Damien Holmes]

That is why because legally speaking, you can't be a regular, I don't think. But it was very specific that we all were in 25 out of 26 episodes.

[Courtney Miller]

That's crazy, dude.

[Damien Holmes]

Pretty brutal. Disgusting, because I remember it was also, they. I don't know if it was on purpose or not, but my manager, at one point. Cause it was like, week seven, my manager was like, hey, what are the chances of him becoming a regular? And they're like, it's not possible. And also, we don't need him for next week's episode. And I was like, all right, they are going for it. And I armored. That week just sucked because I'm just like. Because at that point, we were all friends, whatever. So I'm like, great. They're all there filming an episode, and I'm at home. Like, you're not even. I'm not even a regular. So I don't have any way to get on set that week. I am literally not allowed to go on that lot. Like, I'm not allowed there. So I'm just like, oh, I'm forbidden now for this week and then I'll be back. It was weird, man. Eight straight months on that show, but we were never officially on it. It was really trippy. It's a trippy experience. We even went to D23.

[Courtney Miller]

We did.

[Damien Holmes]

We went to D23 convention, Disney's Vill Vidcon. And.

[Courtney Miller]

But the show had not premiered by that time yet. I don't think so. Especially for us new cast. Like, people never knew who we were. Like, especially. We would have a live audience taping, and they'd be like, oh, we got one of the stars of the show. Bring out Shane Topp and Damien Haas. And all the kids would be like, who? Where's denim, dude? Bring out Denim Labomba d'Emma. So it was very weird. And so again, I talked about this the other day with someone, but, like, because we never filmed at a time when the show had already premiered and because I became sort of a recluse after that and went to the gym during the day when kids are in school, went to the grocery store during the day when kids are in school. I didn't get recognized for so random for, like, years. And so I assumed, like, ah, nobody watched that show. So it wasn't until we joined Smosh that people are like, I didn't put that together. That those were. He's Zombieman and those were the anime bros. Which character? Shane and I pitch.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, you guys just. I happened to show that video this morning.

[Courtney Miller]

Someone tweeted it to me today, so.

[Shane Topp]

Good.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, Anime brothers.

[Shane Topp]

I will say I was obsessed with Sonny with a Chance. I was a big. I watched a lot of Disney Channel when I was growing up and like, I was obsessed with that show. That first episode where Sunny comes in, I feel like that was exactly how I was when I came into small. She's just like, interesting. I'm here. Who's that? Who's that? And. And like, I remember eventually seeing like, oh, what's this? So random. Okay, I wonder what that's. It's probably the same thing.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, so you saw that and I.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, I think I saw like a couple episodes and I was like, wasn't a fan. I was like, oh, I get it. Okay. So this was the sketch show that they were making. Okay, click.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah. You actually just reminded me of something kind of funny. Years before, Sonny with a Chance was the original pitch name was Sketchpad. And I know that because when I was a teenager, I auditioned for that.

[Damien Holmes]

I think the vlog auditioned for that too.

[Courtney Miller]

That's crazy.

[Damien Holmes]

I heard about it and I couldn't get an audition for it.

[Courtney Miller]

Somehow I auditioned for it and went back for like three rounds. And this was when I was still in Atlanta and I didn't end up booking it, but it was for one of the like, main. I don't know if it was like Sterling Knight's part or whatever, but when I walked into the audition room years later for so random, I was like, this sounds like the same thing. Like Sketchpad was supposed to be a sketch show. It became Sonny with Chance. And then it became back. So random. So when I walk in, it's the same casting director and she says, oh my gosh, I remember you. I'm so glad you're here. I can't wait to see what you've got. And I was like, that's the best way ever to start an audition. And I flippin booked it.

[Damien Holmes]

So it was like, casting directors have the most insane memory.

[Courtney Miller]

They do.

[Damien Holmes]

They really do. They'll remember.

[Courtney Miller]

Shout out Cheryl Levine. Can I say that?

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah.

[Courtney Miller]

Shout out Sheryl Levine. I love you and miss you.

[Damien Holmes]

Do not murder anyone in front of a casting director because they will remember your face, your name, your expressions. I always forget that I knew Sterling Knight when I was a teenager.

[Courtney Miller]

Interesting.

[Damien Holmes]

I was. I like, knew him and we knew, like. And then I ended up booking that and it was like, oh, hey, how's it going, man? Good to see you again.

[Courtney Miller]

Sup, dude?

[Damien Holmes]

Sup? What's up, man? So, yeah, Sarandom was a weird time, man. It seems like this weird fantasy like dream that happened.

[Courtney Miller]

It's a long time ago, but also not that long ago.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah. Really not. It was a only eight or nine years ago, so it was only seven years ago that it ended.

[Shane Topp]

Seven years.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, closer to eight, but still. That's not that long ago, but it feels like a different age.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Wow. So. And here you are doing a sketch comedy still.

[Courtney Miller]

Here we are.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, doing it.

[Courtney Miller]

And here you are hanging with the two guys from your favorite show.

[Shane Topp]

Yes. Courtney's favorite show with Denim labombo.

[Courtney Miller]

Denim labombo on some.

[Damien Holmes]

I just love when I get dms that are like, were you on that? So random. They still. Everyone still calls it that. So random.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, that's funny.

[Courtney Miller]

So random.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Dude, that's nuts.

[Courtney Miller]

That's so random.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. And then I got the smosh job on one of my first auditions ever.

[Courtney Miller]

That's rad. How old were you?

[Damien Holmes]

I was. You were 12.

[Shane Topp]

I was 19. I was 19. I was nineteen. About to turn 20.

[Courtney Miller]

Vote.

[Shane Topp]

Couldn't even vote.

[Damien Holmes]

I was 35.

[Shane Topp]

Wow.

[Courtney Miller]

Now I'm.

[Damien Holmes]

I'm younger. I actually, I actually somehow I think I do look younger now than I did when I really. I think I look. I think I looked like a dad when I joined. I also just the way I dressed and everything.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, and you kept your hair dark. Like Courtney was saying my hair was.

[Damien Holmes]

Dark still when I joined. But I just think I also just didn't. I don't know. I was. I just didn't give a crap at that point. I thought, so cute.

[Shane Topp]

What did you look like, Damien?

[Courtney Miller]

When I first joined? Yeah, I was just coming out of my stomach issue stuff and so I was much thinner but not in like a super healthy way.

[Shane Topp]

It was just like freaky skinny.

[Courtney Miller]

Not freaky skinny.

[Damien Holmes]

Stephen King's thinner.

[Courtney Miller]

No, I was just like a lot skinnier. Had mostly wore my glasses. Yeah. I also was like broke as a joke for a long time before joining small. So, like new clothes. What are those? I'll wear hand me downs for my boss at the retail store that I work.

[Shane Topp]

Oh my God.

[Courtney Miller]

And they were often like stained and I'm like, whatever. Cool. Thanks for the clothes. They're four year ago fashions, but that's dope. I'll take them.

[Shane Topp]

I was wearing hand me downs for most for like up until I was like 15. I started finally being able to like get my own clothes.

[Damien Holmes]

Nice. I wore. My wardrobe was so small when I joined. Not. I didn't have a Ton of money. But also just. That's just how I was. I had one pair of boots that I wore every day. I had one pair of jeans that wear a lot and then just a couple shirts that I would rotate through. But that's kind of like an actor wardrobe because you just are like, well, I can't wear logos. I'm gonna generally wear blue for auditions, so I'm gonna keep the same.

[Shane Topp]

Crazy.

[Damien Holmes]

And then what I also wore, what I started wearing a lot shortly after joining was I would wear shorts with a tank top and like a button up, short sleeve shirt over that and flip flops. And our head writer wrote. Despised it. He hated it so much. And I would come in, just do my flip flops to work, and he'd be like, oh, so this is what you're. All right. This is what you're doing today. I'm just like, you got it.

[Courtney Miller]

You dress like a tourist coming to California, being like, I gotta fit the part. I gotta look like a Californian.

[Damien Holmes]

Cali, Cali, baby, Cali Life.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, my God. My fashion was weird. It was just mostly me trying to hide my crippling insecurity. Insecurities.

[Courtney Miller]

I feel that.

[Shane Topp]

I feel that it was like, in between her fashion. You're like, I'm just like. I wore the flannel around my hips to make my hips look bigger. But, like. And that was. Yeah, there's not a lot going on.

[Damien Holmes]

I feel like that's what people wear when they're teenagers because I. That's kind of how I dressed up until I was like, honestly, like 20.

[Courtney Miller]

To make your hips look bigger?

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, to make my hips. No, but I would just. I would wear things based more on what did I want to hide.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Damien Holmes]

As opposed to now I dress in a way of like, oh, this looks cool. That'll. Or this is crazy. This will pop.

[Shane Topp]

Totally. Yeah. We're so cute now.

[Damien Holmes]

We're all just very. We're all just honestly very cute. Make sure to watch the video version of this podcast to see how cute we look.

[Shane Topp]

Yes, do that. And the video version comes out on Fridays. If you just want to hear us, which you get to hear all the swear words, which I don't think we said a whole lot of swear words.

[Courtney Miller]

We dropped a couple S's and one F. And then you had a jc, but it's whatever.

[Shane Topp]

What's jc?

[Courtney Miller]

Jesus, Crystal.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, just chilling. Ah. Just chilling.

[Courtney Miller]

Oh, whoa. Do you know how many baby angels you just killed by saying that? Calm it down, Miller.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, okay. But yeah, the whole Audio version comes out on Wednesdays, full video version on Fridays or so. When you just. If you love us, hit the bell. There's a bell somewhere.

[Damien Holmes]

You'll hit the bell if you love us. If you don't hit the bell, then that means you don't love us.

[Shane Topp]

Hitting that bell is a little equivalent to getting. Giving us a little kiss right below.

[Courtney Miller]

The right eye on each individual.

[Damien Holmes]

And if you also. Side note, if you don't go watch Tinder for Hot Dogs right now, I don't care if you've already watched it, you need to go watch it again right now. That video. If that video doesn't get a million views, if it's not at 10 million views, if it's not the number one, if Jimmy Fallon isn't looking up to Tinder for Hot Dogs going, how do I do that? Then I swear the sun is going to explode.

[Courtney Miller]

Dude, please. Saying please never hurts.

[Shane Topp]

Or at the very least, if you want to check out this Tinder for Hot Dogs merch or our other Smosh merch. We have those on Smosh store. Check them out.

[Damien Holmes]

Our merch is so comfy.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Damien Holmes]

Can do anything in our merch. If you wear our shirts, you will be more powerful.

[Shane Topp]

Dude, I'm gonna get sued.

[Courtney Miller]

Yeah, the FCC is gonna be. You can't promise that T shirts will.

[Damien Holmes]

Make people more powerful. It'll give you plus one charisma and.

[Courtney Miller]

And plus two against ogres.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah. Plus two against ogres.

[Shane Topp]

Nice.

[Damien Holmes]

Plus one charisma.

[Shane Topp]

The water bottle gives you plus three.

[Courtney Miller]

Stamina, but you have to take an exotic penalty because it's an exotic weapon.

[Damien Holmes]

Yeah, exactly. Dang it. The Tinder for Hot Dog shirt, though, gives you plus one at all stats. Charm, all stats. You're in un style strength.

[Courtney Miller]

I think Tinder for Hot Dog's shirt would be one of those that has, like, a drawback where it's like, you know, you get, like, plus 10 strength, and you're like, oh. But, like, minus five wisdom, and you're like, oh. So you have to. Cause, you know, Tinder for Hot Dogs is dumb as hell. I love it. It's dumb as hell, but also very powerful.

[Damien Holmes]

It's. No, it's incredible. It's the greatest thing. And the video is even better.

[Courtney Miller]

I mean that in a good way.

[Damien Holmes]

Listen, it's. Look, there are haters out there. There are doubters.

[Courtney Miller]

Well, I'm not a hater.

[Damien Holmes]

Damien is the number one doubter of Tinder for Hot Dogs.

[Shane Topp]

Prove him wrong.

[Damien Holmes]

Prove Damien wrong.

[Courtney Miller]

I love Tinder for Hot Dogs. I just think it's lunacy.

[Shane Topp]

This is us going for.

[Damien Holmes]

Look, Damien, you're not alone. Everyone is doubting Tinder for hot. It's weird. That's why it is an underdog story. Get out of here, guys. How have I not used that up until now? Holy crap. Guys, it is an under hot dog story.

[Courtney Miller]

All right?

[Shane Topp]

We gotta get out of here. I need to go watch some Sonny with Chance.

[Courtney Miller]

And I gotta go see a bathroom in Courtney's bathroom.

[Damien Holmes]

Hey, and I need to make sure that you're all watching Tinder for hot dogs.

[Shane Topp]

You boys are so cute. Thanks for being on the show. Thanks for letting me host.

[Damien Holmes]

Thanks, Courtney.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, my gosh. I'm so happy that this happened.

[Courtney Miller]

Shucks.

[Shane Topp]

Okay.

[Courtney Miller]

Okay. Goodbye.

[Shane Topp]

We gotta go.

[Courtney Miller]

All right.

[Damien Holmes]

We have to leave now.

[Shane Topp]

Okay.

[Damien Holmes]

Gross.

[Shane Topp]

Bye.

[Courtney Miller]

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[Damien Holmes]

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