S1: #33 - Does Keith Resent Ian?

Summary

Smosh Mouth S1E33 - "Does Keith Resent Ian?"

Release Date: October 2, 2019
Hosts: Shayne Topp (Short), Amanda Lehan-Canto (Tall), and rotating Smosh friends

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1. Keith's Fake ID Experience [00:00 - 17:07]

The episode kicks off with Keith sharing his hilarious yet nerve-wracking experience of getting caught with a fake ID. He recounts how his fake ID falsely indicated he was from Florida, which backfired when the officer turned out to be actually from Florida. Keith humorously describes his predicament:

• “I was fucked. I was fucked. I got man titties and my dick don't work no more.” [00:00]

This anecdote sets a light-hearted tone as the group navigates through the awkward encounter, highlighting the challenges of using fake IDs and the importance of being prepared for unexpected questions from law enforcement.

2. Michael Jackson Controversy and Legal Battles [01:02 - 05:39]

Noah Grossman introduces a serious topic by discussing the Michael Jackson documentary "Leaving Neverland" and the subsequent legal battles faced by Jackson’s estate against HBO. He vehemently defends Michael Jackson, dismissing the allegations as "complete bullshit":

• “The Michael Jackson estate just won a legal battle with HBO... It was just bullshit.” [03:54]

The conversation delves into the complexities of legacy and defamation, with Noah expressing his deep admiration for Jackson and his belief in the strength of the estate's legal standing. Olivia and Keith engage by sharing their limited knowledge, emphasizing the personal impact of Jackson's artistry.

3. Contracts, Relationships, and Policing Partners [05:39 - 12:54]

Transitioning into the dynamics of personal relationships, the hosts discuss the concept of prenups and the controversial idea of including clauses about a partner’s weight. Noah recounts a disturbing conversation with a friend who suggested penalizing a partner for gaining weight through a prenup:

• “If you put something like a contract with terms like that above someone's head. Because that's not a relationship.” [10:34]

The discussion critiques the ethics of such agreements, highlighting issues of control and objectification in relationships. Keith humorously returns to his earlier joke about "man titties," while Olivia underscores the importance of mutual respect and understanding in partnerships.

4. Personal Health, Weight Struggles, and Fitness Journeys [12:54 - 30:37]

Noah opens up about his battle with depression and weight gain, revealing his efforts to lead a healthier lifestyle through hiking and exercise:

• “I started thinking, what makes me happy?... I'm searching.” [23:49]

He shares a vivid account of a challenging hike that pushed him to his physical and mental limits, illustrating his commitment to self-improvement despite the hardships:

• “I felt like I was gonna die... but I realized how much just getting through it was for me.” [27:32]

Keith and Olivia provide supportive commentary, reinforcing the importance of perseverance and mental health awareness. The conversation emphasizes the stigma around seeking therapy, especially within certain communities, and encourages listeners to prioritize their well-being.

5. Reflections on Past Work and Production Challenges [32:03 - 58:34]

The hosts reminisce about their time working with Defy, discussing the bureaucratic hurdles and financial struggles they faced while producing content. Keith details the difficulties of not being paid adequately and the strain it put on the crew:

• “They... were glad to just take the money out from us, so we couldn't really produce things.” [52:31]

Olivia adds to the narrative by describing the logistical nightmares, such as constructing sets that ultimately failed due to poor planning:

• “We turned a whole building into a fake Chuck E. Cheese... it was a rough build.” [56:20]

Despite these challenges, they reflect positively on the camaraderie and friendships forged during these turbulent times, highlighting the resilience and dedication required to sustain creative endeavors in a constantly evolving YouTube landscape.

6. Personal Growth, Dreams, and Future Aspirations [58:34 - 66:16]

As the episode progresses, the conversation shifts towards personal ambitions and the evolution of their dreams over the years. Noah discusses his realization that his core aspirations remain unchanged despite the challenges:

• “The foundation of it is honestly still the same.” [61:45]

Keith reflects on his growth, mentioning how his experiences have refined his comedic approach and deepened his understanding of storytelling:

• “I enjoy being able to help make things better and at least stand behind something.” [65:09]

Olivia shares her journey into leadership, acknowledging the unexpected responsibility that came with her role and the adjustments she had to make:

• “I knew I had to take this position because nobody else could.” [46:42]

The trio emphasizes the importance of adapting and evolving while staying true to their foundational goals, showcasing their commitment to personal and professional development.

7. Promotion and Closing Remarks [66:16 - 68:35]

In the concluding segment, the hosts briefly promote their merchandise and upcoming projects. Keith humorously highlights the camaraderie and shared experiences, while Olivia reinforces their collective support network:

• “We’re all rooting for you.” [68:18]

They wrap up the episode by encouraging listeners to seek mental health resources and reiterate their support for one another, leaving the audience with a sense of unity and ongoing journey towards self-improvement.

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Key Takeaways:

• Authenticity and Support: The hosts openly discuss personal struggles, emphasizing the importance of honesty and mutual support within their community.

• Mental Health Advocacy: Noah’s candid conversation about depression and the stigma around therapy underscores the need for greater mental health awareness.

• Navigating Creative Challenges: Reflecting on their time with Defy, the hosts highlight the complexities of producing content in a dynamic environment, stressing resilience and adaptability.

• Personal Growth and Leadership: Olivia’s insights into stepping into leadership roles illustrate the personal growth that accompanies professional responsibilities.

Notable Quotes:

• “We don't know what we're doing. That's the beauty and problem with YouTube. Nobody knows what's going on. We're all just adapting.” – Olivia Sway [00:28]

• “I'm fighting. Just honestly, like, fighting for my life.” – Noah Grossman [00:37]

• “Do not put women in that position.” – Noah Grossman [10:57]

• “It’s a historic moment because we were the guinea pigs.” – Olivia Sway [50:22]

• “All that matters is that you make it to the other side. Cause it's the climb.” – Keith [28:37]

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This episode of Smosh Mouth delves deep into personal anecdotes, societal issues, and the intricate dynamics of creative collaboration, offering listeners a blend of humor, introspection, and heartfelt discussions.

Transcript

[Keith]

Ramble. I've gotten called out for a fake ID before, and it said that I was from Florida for some reason. I had just memorized it the day, but apparently this guy was from Florida. So I was fucked. I was fucked. I got man titties and my dick don't work no more.

[Noah Grossman]

I don't like that. Say it like that. That's good.

[Keith]

What if I whisper it? I got man titties, my dick don't work.

[Olivia Sway]

Look, we don't know what we're doing. That's the beauty and problem with YouTube. Nobody knows what's going on. We're all just adapting.

[Noah Grossman]

I think I might be more depressed than I've ever been. And I beat myself up when I'm alone and everything. And I'm like. I'm fighting. Just honestly, like, fighting for my life.

[Keith]

Oh, my God. Keith, what are you doing?

[Noah Grossman]

Ah.

[Keith]

Yep, that was good for everyone to hear.

[Olivia Sway]

Welcome, everybody, to the. To the 32nd podcast smoshcast podcast.

[Noah Grossman]

Did you say 32nd?

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah.

[Noah Grossman]

So we're doing this in 30 seconds?

[Olivia Sway]

Yep, the 32nd podcast. Get everything you want out right now, Keith.

[Noah Grossman]

Okay, can I just start by saying, like, with Michael Jackson. Can we just go straight into it?

[Keith]

Listen, you got 30 seconds.

[Noah Grossman]

30 seconds to talk about Michael. I just wanna say the.

[Olivia Sway]

I'll give you more time to talk about Michael.

[Noah Grossman]

Okay.

[Olivia Sway]

I didn't even say who was here. Who's here today?

[Keith]

Oh, Noah.

[Noah Grossman]

Noah Grossman and Olivia Sway.

[Olivia Sway]

Hi, Olivia Sway. You look different.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, Hell yeah. We switched it up.

[Olivia Sway]

I know you're eager to redeem yourself from.

[Noah Grossman]

Redeem myself?

[Olivia Sway]

The last time you were here.

[Noah Grossman]

What do you mean, redeem myself?

[Keith]

And I don't know. I'm not sure. What was the public response to the last time? That it's redemption?

[Olivia Sway]

I have no idea. It was just ugly all around.

[Keith]

Yeah. I thought, as someone who was here the whole time, I thought it was really fun.

[Olivia Sway]

It was.

[Noah Grossman]

This is a fun situation, guys. I mean, this is entertainment for you guys, but this is serious. You know, Michael Jackson is, like, dead. He's, like, turning over in his grave. Y'all gotta realize. First of all, let's just say I just wanted to start out by saying if you guys heard about the Leaving Neverland or whatever, it was complete bullshit. The Michael Jackson estate just won a. A legal battle with hbo, and I am here. Like, I mean, come on, guys. Like, some of just the cracks in the case. The cracks? Well, the case. It wasn't even a case. The cracks in the documentary. I mean, it was just bullshit. And I'm just glad that the Jackson estate are like. And, you know, they're just due because to, you know, I just. I know that guy's just turning over.

[Olivia Sway]

That's so bad. You came ready to fire.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, for sure. For Michael Jackson. Do y'all understand who he is to me?

[Olivia Sway]

I don't know who he is.

[Keith]

I understand who he is to you.

[Noah Grossman]

Who is Michael Jackson to me, Noah? Please tell me.

[Keith]

So Keith would only ever draw two people his entire life. And Keith is a great artist. He would draw himself, and he would draw Michael Jackson.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Maybe there were others here and there, but I have heard him repeatedly tell me that and do it like, I've watched you draw for the last five years, and you either draw yourself or Michael Jackson.

[Noah Grossman]

True. And I send you pictures of Michael Jackson here and there, which is like, I am, like, beyond a fan. I am, like, a crazy person.

[Keith]

You're a defender.

[Noah Grossman]

Yes, for sure.

[Keith]

Yeah. I'm not educated. Thank you.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, I'll defend you.

[Olivia Sway]

Thank you.

[Noah Grossman]

I'll defend. All y'all in here. All y'all in here. I will defend y'all.

[Keith]

Thank you.

[Noah Grossman]

At all costs. Maybe.

[Olivia Sway]

So. Yeah. So it's. It's very clear. You're a fan of Michael Jackson.

[Noah Grossman]

No. You love him.

[Olivia Sway]

No, this is. This is too. Okay. I'm not saying. Okay, what's gonna come.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, I wouldn't. Yeah, well, because I was trying to.

[Olivia Sway]

I was trying to think. I was trying to think of a. I was trying to think of a scenario of. Of how far would your love for Michael Jackson go? And. Because I was thinking Michael Jackson to you is like a God. Right.

[Noah Grossman]

I wouldn't say he's a God. I'm just. I really appreciate his work. Okay. I like it a lot. Like, A lot. Like, yeah, maybe, but, like. I don't want to say that, but. Yeah, maybe. I guess when you. Yeah. Yes.

[Keith]

That was the best.

[Noah Grossman]

I had to just go through the whole. Okay, where do I start? Who do I think about? That is definitely a godlike figure.

[Olivia Sway]

So they. So they sued HBO for, like, tarnishing his name or whatever?

[Noah Grossman]

Pretty much. Something like that. I don't know the logistics. I don't.

[Olivia Sway]

They sued HBO because when he did in the 90s, a concert on HBO, in the contract it said, you can never disparage Michael Jackson.

[Keith]

Somebody that's up to creepy shit.

[Olivia Sway]

Has that contract set up someone who's not. Doesn't worry about it.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, no. Okay. You should get on this. You should get on the mic.

[Olivia Sway]

You know, I should Start. I should start putting contracts in. Like, if you come into this building, you can't ever disparage me.

[Noah Grossman]

See, but that's the thing. Like, Michael Jackson was that big. Like, he could. Like he was coming up with the contracts. Like, the way I feel like a lot of companies, they come up with them for you. I feel like he comes to you like, yo, this is what it is. This is how we gonna work.

[Keith]

I don't. I don't disagree. But I will say, like, when we worked at Defy, like, that was. That was in my Defy contract. That was like a non negotiable section in the Defy contract that you couldn't disparage the company that you work for.

[Noah Grossman]

Or your own personal image.

[Keith]

No, there's no. I mean, Defy definitely had stuff to hide and they hid it from all of us. But my point is that it's definitely like shady and it's shady and a.

[Noah Grossman]

Lot of people do that shit, but it's not shady. That's the thing.

[Olivia Sway]

I think Justin Bieber, like, I think.

[Noah Grossman]

Something similar where it's. Everybody does that.

[Olivia Sway]

If you go to meet him, like, they take away your phone. You have to sign a contract so you can't talk about anything that happened.

[Noah Grossman]

Justin Bieber, okay? For example, Olivia was with her friend at like somewhere and Justin Bieber, they were all at a table together. Olivia's always in the end circle. I don't know how she gets there, but like, I just want to go to like a dinner with her. She went to like some meeting and her friend was there with her. Justin Bieber happened to be at the table and they're all just like sitting, talking, you know, she's like, he's a really nice guy. He's chilling. You could tell he's trying to have a good time. This was like a few years ago, one of her, like friends, not really her friend, but somebody that she knows, tries to take a picture and the flash went off, y'all.

[Olivia Sway]

Oh, my gosh.

[Noah Grossman]

Went off.

[Olivia Sway]

Amateur.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, like, terrible. But Justin Bieber, where it's like, yeah, like, good job. Like, yeah, don't do that. It's just like, isn't that sickening? But like, come on. Like, I mean, if you around people and people want something out of you all the time, like, I would put that too in like some contracts.

[Keith]

I mean, a lot of rich people don't have sex without a contract.

[Noah Grossman]

Whoa.

[Keith]

Thought I'd put that in just.

[Olivia Sway]

Cause I've heard about rich people having like beauty contracts for their wives. That, oh my God, if they get fat, they're not entitled to any money. If they get divorced, that's just a misogynist.

[Keith]

That's a rude human being.

[Olivia Sway]

I mean, when you're, I'd imagine when you're that level of a disgusting, kind of like billionaire guy, you probably view everything as an object.

[Keith]

See, But I would hope that a contract is mutually, to some degree. So like in, that would be like, if you get man titties and your dick don't work no more, I get to leave with the money, you know.

[Noah Grossman]

Like that's how it would work. Let's not say man titties and dick don't work together.

[Keith]

I got man titties and my dick don't work no more.

[Noah Grossman]

I don't like that. Say it like that.

[Keith]

Is that better?

[Noah Grossman]

That's good.

[Keith]

What if I whisper it?

[Noah Grossman]

Just don't ASML r or whatever.

[Keith]

I got man titties. My dick don't work. That one's worse. Cuz it's like, how did they get so close without me realizing I'm gonna.

[Olivia Sway]

Make, I'm gonna make that my dating profile.

[Keith]

Man titties and dick don't work no more.

[Noah Grossman]

That might actually work for you, dude.

[Keith]

Maybe people think you're just being super funny until they get in the bedroom with you and they're like, oh, you're really honest.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, sorry, hold on. But back to what you said. You said rich men. I know someone that I just met when I was in New York. I took a trip to New York recently, like a few months ago, and I had to do some work out there. And I ended up hanging out with my friends for like longer than I actually had to work. I just said, yeah, I told my team, I said, yo, can I fly out like at, you know, like a week later than what I'm supposed to. Yeah, I had some of the best time in my life. Like some just like, just awakening. Just like I started. I had a stylist, my homeboy Matthew, he styles me now and he just started giving me some great clothes and stuff. And I dress how I feel right now. But to go back into what you were saying, this one guy, not a rich guy, black guy, he's dating this white lady. They live in Seattle or whatever. I don't want to put too much out there, but pretty much met him, like really great person. But we all started talking about prenups and just different things. And he honestly kind of said that, like, if, you know, like in the prenup, like, why shouldn't it be a point to not have your girl, like, gain weight? If she gains weight, like, it can be over and you don't have to like, pay. I'm like, whoa, like, this is where your mind is, bro. Is this serious? And, like, everybody started getting heated and, you know, like, people started using the word policing women. And that is not like just the police, you know?

[Keith]

Yeah, that's such a.

[Noah Grossman]

It got to the point, he was like, but who am I not to police? I said, okay, brother, like, do you like the police your damn self? Okay, the word police just not sound good for this situation. Nobody should be policing their woman, their man, their anything. Like, it was sickening. It was a sickening conversation. But the guy was actually really cool. But he wasn't rich. I think he's like, I don't wanna say where he's working, but he's doing really good things.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah, interesting.

[Keith]

He's got levels that I would argue are like, actually insane. That's an insane opinion. Like, that's an opinion of someone who is not applying to others what they apply to themselves.

[Olivia Sway]

I think that's the thing. It's gotta be mutually agreed upon. So I could understand that if, if it go. If it also applies to you as well, like, okay, like, because I think it comes down to, like, taking care of yourself. Like, if we're talking about, like, okay, yeah, you put on weight, I mean, everybody's, you know, metabolism slows down, or, hey, you might get injured, or, hey, you know, you might go through some kind of illness and you put on weight, whatever. But if it's just like a sheer fact that you just like, aren't trying, then, I mean, that's. That's also just like a character thing.

[Keith]

Yeah, but that's already grounds to not be with someone is because, like, oh, we're going in different, direct. Like, that is actually insane to like even put something like a contract with terms like that above someone's head. Because that's not a relationship. That's immediately like a fucking teacher and a student and there's some homework.

[Noah Grossman]

And not only that, women gave so much weight, like, after like having a baby too, you know, and it's just like, it's difficult. Like, I've seen like certain friends, like.

[Keith]

They also just messed up.

[Noah Grossman]

It's so messed up. Don't put women in that position. Like, do not. Like, can you imagine?

[Olivia Sway]

He's like. He's like, oh, you're two pounds, you're getting. Yeah, yeah, you better hurry up.

[Noah Grossman]

I don't think he Look, I don't think he would police that much, but he's definitely like.

[Keith]

He would definitely write the contract to those terms.

[Noah Grossman]

He's like the cool police that every now and again he like, writes a ticket. He's like, okay, I'm gonna let you off this time, but next time, you know what I'm saying? Like, we gonna have to deal with some. Like, we might go to the courthouse and get a divorce.

[Keith]

That happened to me on Christmas Eve.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, we both got a divorce.

[Keith]

No, not a divorce. Me getting passed on a ticket.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, really?

[Keith]

That happened to me on Christmas Eve. Yeah, that was so great.

[Noah Grossman]

You know what? That must be so great to be white and driving, getting left.

[Keith]

You wanna know what happened? So it was Christmas Eve and Christmas Day. Or no, it was the 23rd, and it was the morning of the 24th, and my girlfriend and I were going somewhere with family and she needed a dress, but she had forgot it, so I had to drive her to her apartment.

[Noah Grossman]

Got you.

[Keith]

And I had come back from set pretty late. I took a nap and then we drove, but I was still super tired. It was probably like 3am When I was going. And I was like, all right, I just wanna go and come back. So the speed limit's 65. I'm probably going like 72. And so a cop pulled me over and he pulled me over and he was like, all right, have you had anything to drink? Why are you out this late? And I'm like, no, I just need to get my girlfriend's dress.

[Noah Grossman]

What if he would have said yes?

[Keith]

Yes. Y. You called me red handed. Yeah, no, but he was like, I'm still gonna have you step out and do a sobriety test. And I was like, okay, there's no problems. I'm gonna pass it. But I was so nervous that I wasn't gonna pass it.

[Noah Grossman]

See, that's the thing. Everybody's nervous in those situations.

[Keith]

And they also try to make you not pass it. Like, one guy had me following his finger while the other guy had a flashlight in my eyes, going in and out and in and out. And I was like. Before I even started, I was like, I am scared. And they were like, it's okay. Just do what we tell you. But in the end, it was all okay. I passed. They didn't give me a ticket.

[Noah Grossman]

Were they nice to you at least?

[Keith]

Yeah, I mean, I would say intimidating for sure. Yes, they were. Yes, they did not frighten me more than they did with their presence, if that makes sense. See, that was it.

[Noah Grossman]

That should not be the vibe.

[Keith]

Well, I mean, I think it is because they have guns. And also, if, you know, they wanted to, they could take my car away by being like, oh, you're too tired. Or like, oh, you didn't walk this line right. Like, you can't. You have to step out of your vehicle.

[Noah Grossman]

You are one clumsy mother. Shut your mouth. So, like, you probably would do better drunk. Yes.

[Keith]

Yes. Good Lord.

[Olivia Sway]

Don't say that.

[Noah Grossman]

Like, honestly, don't do it. But, like, he probably would. He probably would.

[Keith]

Yeah, I did that here this morning.

[Olivia Sway]

I always feel guilty about things for no reason. Like, I remember, like, back when. Back when I was, like, a few years after turning 21, every time I was asked for my ID, like, when I was buying alcohol, I was always, like, nervous. I was. I was always, like, afraid that I was, like, looking guilty. Like, it was a fake id, And I never used a fake id. Like, I never tried to buy alcohol before I was 21. I turned 21 and, you know, was buying alcohol, and every time, I'd give them my ID and I'd be, like, a little nervous that they're gonna, like, bust me.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, good Lord.

[Olivia Sway]

So I feel like I'm in the same situation if I was ever pulled out for a sobriety test.

[Noah Grossman]

Like, you. Honestly, like, on a scale of 1 to 10, how bad do you. How bad would you feel?

[Olivia Sway]

What?

[Noah Grossman]

Like, just, like, buying alcohol, like, when you were 21?

[Olivia Sway]

Oh, I was just nervous.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

I don't know.

[Noah Grossman]

Why.

[Olivia Sway]

Cause I just thought, like, somehow they would think it was a fake ID or something.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia Sway]

I don't know.

[Noah Grossman]

Good Lord, I could not wait to turn 21 and use my ID. I'm like, yo, look at this. Look, I'm 21, bitch. I can drink. Not outside, though. I'll get in trouble.

[Keith]

I've gotten called out for a fake ID before.

[Noah Grossman]

Really?

[Keith]

Yeah. I was.

[Noah Grossman]

Got you?

[Keith]

Yeah, I was using a fake ID and it said that I was from Florida, and.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, my God, I can't believe you just said that.

[Keith]

Well, yeah, I'm of legal age to do everything now, I guess that you can legally do. But at the time I had a fake ID at this specific time. I guess I won't mention the time now. You're making me feel nervous.

[Noah Grossman]

You're making me feel nervous. Cause I knew you had one.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, I did. You are putting me in the hot seat right now. He did not have a fake id, and I did not know. Sorry.

[Keith]

Anyway, so I was buying alcohol from a liquor store, and the guy and I'm 20, by the way. I was 20 at the time.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, okay. So you were almost 20?

[Keith]

Yeah, I was almost 21. He called me out and he asked me for my address, where I was from. Florida. And for some reason, I had just memorized it the day of. I was like, you know what? This would be weird if, like, for some reason, this guy asked me. So I memorized it enough where, like, I passed, but I probably didn't look like I know, but apparently this guy was from Florida. So I was fucked. I was fucked. He asked me immediately, no, I wasn't in Hollywood. This was in the Valley. Yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

He's like, what's the weather like in March?

[Keith]

No, even worse. He was like, if I'm going from. What was it? Is Destin a place? I feel like he said, destin. He was like, if I'm going from Destin to Tampa, which interstate will I take?

[Noah Grossman]

What an asshole.

[Keith]

I looked at him.

[Noah Grossman]

I don't drive. Oh. I said, you were a driver on there too?

[Keith]

Yes, it did.

[Noah Grossman]

I got it. A lot of yes.

[Keith]

He was asking me. Well, because the first defense is he asks me why I have a Florida idiot if I'm in California. And I said, oh, I'm out here for school.

[Noah Grossman]

He was the damn police.

[Keith]

But I still have my other id, Some shit like that. And he was like, okay, so what interstate do you take if you go from Destin to Tampa? I didn't know. So I said, what did I say? I think I picked like, three. Something like that. I picked a very low number. Cause I felt like maybe the interstate started on the east coast and came out here. So I was like, maybe the numbers are low. I don't remember what he said to me, but I think I said three. And it might have been like seven. But there was no way that I was gonna guess what the interstate.

[Olivia Sway]

I think you actually got it. Opposite interstates start. Interstates start at the low numbers on the West Coast.

[Keith]

Really? And they go to the high.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Oh, I was so fucked.

[Olivia Sway]

Pretty sure. That's why we have i5. And I think Hawaii has one. Highway 1.

[Keith]

Hawaii has the first one.

[Olivia Sway]

No, wait, no. We have Highway 1. So Hawaii has Highway 0. Negative.

[Keith]

Hawaii has boats.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah. No. So, yeah. Sorry.

[Keith]

Damn. I was completely the opposite.

[Olivia Sway]

So you could have just guessed, like, I don't know, 2000?

[Keith]

Yeah, 2000. That is the road I take.

[Olivia Sway]

I love that you tried, though.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

You're just like, uh, six at this point.

[Keith]

I definitely had to. It was more fun. I was like, I'm definitely screwed, but let's do it.

[Noah Grossman]

Did he take your id?

[Keith]

No.

[Noah Grossman]

Okay, but somebody ended up taking your ID One time.

[Keith]

Yeah, when I tried to get in. Oh, when I tried to get in to see Jaden Smith when he played at the Roxy, they took it from him.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, I didn't know you were going to see Jaden.

[Keith]

Yeah, no, one day. So it was like his, I guess, his first concert off of, like, his new album. Like the new Jaden Smith. It was his first concert. So I bought like three tickets and yeah, that was it. I went there. He screamed a lot on stage. He did a lot of moonwalking. And my ID got taken. That was it. And I could still go in. And the worst part is I didn't know I wasn't planning on drinking. I drove, but I thought it was 21 plus. It was 18 plus.

[Noah Grossman]

Can we make this. Hold on. Can I just say.

[Olivia Sway]

So you got your ID taken, but you got to go in?

[Keith]

Yeah. Cause it was 18 blocks.

[Noah Grossman]

Guys, can we make this a thing? I want you to meet Jaden Smith.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Noah Grossman]

I really want you to get an experience to go to his concert. What's a good hashtag for this?

[Keith]

Like, I don't know. I know a lot of people that know him know Jaden Smith. Like, that matters.

[Noah Grossman]

Really?

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Noah Grossman]

You suck for saying that. You know what?

[Keith]

I don't want to die. I wanted to die right now.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Nevermind, guys. I was gonna come up with a hatchet.

[Keith]

I don't know what we'd talk about. I feel like both of us would just kind of sit there.

[Noah Grossman]

No, it's not like. Not necessarily talk, but, like, just like go to a concert or something. You settled in. Experience.

[Olivia Sway]

No, he went.

[Keith]

No, I still went.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh. Oh, there's just a couple.

[Keith]

Yeah, yeah, I just got taken. It was 18 plus.

[Noah Grossman]

Why'd you show the fake one?

[Keith]

Because I thought it was 21 plus.

[Noah Grossman]

Belle, you showed a fake one to the people at the bar?

[Keith]

No, to the people walking in. They asked for my ID and I showed them the fake one.

[Noah Grossman]

Why would you do that?

[Keith]

Cause I didn't know.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh my God.

[Olivia Sway]

You're the only person to get your ID taken and still get into the place?

[Keith]

Yeah. Seriously? Cause I was like, oh my God, really? And he was like, yeah, dude, I'm taking this. I was like, and I can't have it back. He's like, no. And I was like, dang, so what am I gonna do? And he was like, stok. And I was like, oh, okay, all right.

[Noah Grossman]

Did you show him the real one?

[Keith]

Yeah, but it didn't matter. I came in with a fake one. I'm. Obviously. He can let me in. I just can't buy the alcohol. It's fine. He doesn't care. I'm just not doing anything illegal in there.

[Noah Grossman]

Concert without alcohol.

[Olivia Sway]

There's some places that are incentivized to take fake IDs. They get paid.

[Keith]

Really? By whom?

[Olivia Sway]

I think the county.

[Keith]

Oh, to take them and turn them in. I thought you meant take them as in let them in.

[Noah Grossman]

Like there was some evil man, AKA snitches.

[Keith]

Shit, that's funny.

[Olivia Sway]

So, Keith, you've made some changes in your life?

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, yeah, I have, actually. Not as much as people think. Like, I've been trying to get a lot more healthy. I've been trying to go on hikes because, like, I do have a lot more free time. And I see that I am starting to gain weight. I'm 27 years old now. Don't tell nobody but God, but I'm 27 years old, and weight is sticking to me like never before.

[Olivia Sway]

27 is the turning point. That's. That's the. That's the final dying gasp of our metabolism.

[Noah Grossman]

So let me just say this. So I went. I weighed myself. I didn't even know, like, one of my roommates has, like, a scale in the bathroom. And I never weigh myself. I don't really. I weigh myself, but, like, not that often. And I happened to look over and I was like, okay, let me just weigh myself. Let me see where I'm at. Because my weight fluctuates. You know what I'm saying? It just say up and down, up and down. So I ended up weighing myself, and I was like, 140 or 141. I can't remember. My memory's not that good anymore. And, like, by the next week or the. A week after that, I wanna say I was 145, and I had started hiking. I had started, like, doing, you know, like, a couple pushups. Like, not, like, just a few. Just a few. Like, 10, 20 here, 30 if I'm feeling real nice, nice. But I've been doing that. But, like, to gain weight, I know it's not muscle. Like, I know it's not muscle. So, like, I also have to eat healthier. And I just. I honestly have to, like, honest, like, just monitor what I eat, what I do, what I drink. I can't drink beers as much. Y'all know I love a free beer at kitchen 20. I shouldn't have said that you guys are gonna find me there. I'm going after this. Good lord. But like, like, dead ass, y'all. Like, I. I looked at the. The. The. The scale, the. The next two weeks or so, and I, like, weighed 145. And that scared me because I was like, yo, I'm actually trying to, like, take, you know, precaution and just, like, you know. Yeah. Weigh this shit out.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah. Drinking's a big one, man. That'll catch up for sure.

[Keith]

Also getting the right nature.

[Noah Grossman]

It caught me. It caught. I'm starting to get, like, on my size right here. Yo, I'm start love handles, like, beyond. My mom calls them side items. I got side items, but they also got some dents in them. And I'm like, well, damn, I ain't never had no dents. Like, potholes everywhere. They some little cute ones. This like, kind of like a beanie baby. You know how, like, when you touch it, it's just like the little, like, thingies in there that collect collection how side items are. Yeah, you got something to hold on to. But I've definitely been like, working out. I'm going hiking after. This is why I'm dressed like this. I'm very, you know, like, comfortable. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. Get you a shirt.

[Olivia Sway]

Oh, yeah. You gotta get the slush cult merch before it's all gone. The collab. It's good shit.

[Noah Grossman]

It's really good.

[Olivia Sway]

This shirt's actually incredibly, like, comfy. This material is super nice. I don't know about that.

[Keith]

This is the last limited edition, which is super dope. But the hat is awesome. It's like a straight up custom stitch. What is this called? The five panel. Except I don't know how many.

[Olivia Sway]

Camp hat.

[Noah Grossman]

I like how this turned into a commercial. And it's not about me anymore.

[Olivia Sway]

Sorry.

[Noah Grossman]

It's a. Okay. Get your stuff, though. Get your. Get your. Get, Get. Get your merch.

[Olivia Sway]

Smash that store.

[Noah Grossman]

Yep, yep, yep.

[Olivia Sway]

Back to you, Keith.

[Noah Grossman]

But definitely just, like, trying to watch myself. And the funny thing is, like, people think that I'm better. Ryan was talking to Olivia recently, and he was like, yo, like, how's Keith? And he's asking her questions and she's like, yo. He's, like, healthier. He seems happier. And guys, I am fighting so hard for my happiness. You know what I mean? I like when he. He brought it up earlier. Cause, you know, we do talk about a little bit about, like, what we're gonna talk about before we get here, you know, just to, like, have a understanding of where things could go. And I started thinking when he asked me, I was like, yo, like, I think I might be more depressed than I've ever been. And I beat myself up when I'm alone and everything. And I'm like, I'm fighting. And I feel like. Oh, like, even saying it, I'm kind of getting emotional. Like, just honestly, like, fighting for my life. You know what I mean? And it's yes, yes. And I find myself, you know, Like, I go to church and everything, and I'm just trying to find something. Like, I mean, like, I'm not here all the time. You know what I mean? We don't come in Monday through Friday. I have a lot more time. I'm auditioning and stuff now, more so. And, you know, like, ideas. Like, what makes me happy?

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah.

[Noah Grossman]

Like, what do I enjoy? Like, what's my identity? Like, who am I? Like, I'm really going through it, y'all. Like, when you have. Have, like, so many people watching you, you have to. You start to watch yourself more, and to the point where you judge yourself way more than what you ever, like, would have if you only had a couple people, you know, eyes on you. But I honestly realize I am, like, I'm pushing through. I'm persevering. I take pride in just persevering and moving forward. But, like, I am doing these things, and, like. Like, just because I don't feel the best, you know what I mean? I don't feel 100%. I'm trying to find it. I'm searching, y'all. I am searching. And the only way to, like, do. I'm doing something new. I used to make fun of people for hiking, and now I'm like, yo, I see why people do it. I see why people work out. Remember, I will always say, like, I'm not working out for shit. I'm not doing this. Like, no, it's stupid. I didn't have to. Now my body's changing. Like, that's one thing. But, like, just the things that you're. Your psyche and your mental. Like, I have to do that for that. Like, just going on the hikes, I get down, like, out the first day. Let me just start by the first day. The first day I did the hike. I had drank the day before. Just being transparent. Being very transparent right now, guys. I drank the day before, and me and my homeboy from Ohio, Zach, we had the idea to go, and we had it for a week, like, a couple weeks, but I just never did It. But this time, like, I ended up waking up and I got a message from him. He said, yo. And this was like 30 minutes before we were supposed to go because I was gonna bathe. Like, I was gonna bail. Like, just straight up. I was like, hungover. I shouldn't be doing this. Like, I'm dehydrated.

[Olivia Sway]

And like, how late were you up the night before?

[Noah Grossman]

I wanna say two or three. So, like. And then like. But this is the thing. He hit me up at 10:30, so I can, like, I can move and like, you know, make things work. Like, I'm a professional. He ended up, like, FaceTiming me. Like, after, like, I seen a message and no, I FaceTimed him and I was like, bro, you know, hopefully that he would, like, be like, see my face. Like, okay. Like, he doesn't wanna do it. But he was like, are we still doing it? I was like, yes. And I got up, I jumped up and y'all, it was the worst decision of my life. I felt like I was gonna die. I was walking up there. He brought his dog. So we're going. I'm like, oh, my God. I just started walk, got out the car and I'm walking up this damn hill and my calves are on fire. What is going on with me? What happened?

[Olivia Sway]

And I'm guessing, did he not. And I'm guessing he probably didn't bring water, you know, I ain't bring water.

[Noah Grossman]

You know, I brought some soda, non platter, but I brought some water. And I'm walking up and we start getting up there. We stop. He had to make a phone call. He does like, real estate or some stuff. So, like, we stopped and we're talking. I'm like, well, this is great. This is great. We stopping, we're having a good time. I'm like, on my phone, like, face, like, Instagramming, you know, just, you know, making content. And then we started walking, but we go like up this, like this steep ass hill and we walked up. It almost slipped. And I don't have good gym shoes. Gym shoes, tennis shoes. What are they? Sneakers? I don't know. Hiking shoes. So, like, I kind of slipped and I was like, okay. We get up there, like, to this, like, weird area and we do pushups. I'm like, okay, this is cool. I shouldn't have did the push ups. Y'all shouldn't have did the push ups. And I should have had water. Started walking. I'm like, okay, we're talking. After like five minutes into it, y'all, I felt the Wind. It was hot. Then it got cold. And then I was like, whoa. I ain't never felt like this before. What's going on? What's going on? So I keep walking. I'm like. He looks back, he's like, keith, are you okay? And I was like, no. But we keep walking. I'm like, I'm gonna keep it going. I'm, like, hoping, like, somehow, some way he would see, like, he could tell that I wasn't good. And every. Like, his do dog wasn't either. His dog had, like, a fucking chinchilla fur on. What? Yeah, the dog had a full ass. Chinchilla.

[Keith]

One second. One second. Chinchilla is the finest fur according to Jay Z.

[Noah Grossman]

That's what I'm saying.

[Keith]

The dog had on chinchilla.

[Noah Grossman]

Yes. A whole chinchilla fur. So he's just panting. He's like. I'm like, do you see your dog? Your dog's dying. Your dog's dying. And we keep walking. He's like, are you okay? I'm like, no, don't ask me that again. Let's keep going. Like, if you're not gonna ask me to go down, let's just keep going. So we keep going. We got up there, y'all. I felt like I was gonna die. I didn't feel good. But, like, once, like, you know how they tell you don't sit down, like, and put your hands behind your head? Definitely sat down. Definitely did not do that. I was that bad. Like, I didn't feel like I was gonna make it. And I didn't have water. And I will never walk up a damn hill at all. I don't care what hill. If it's just a heel like this that I just made, and I walk over this, I'm carrying some water with me. But did not feel good. But at the same time, I realized how much just, like, getting through it was for me. Like, just moving. Getting over the hill, y'all. Like, honestly, getting over the hill and fighting for it, Keith. Because I did not feel good. I did not feel good, and I don't feel good right now. So I'm just being honest.

[Keith]

Just so you know. It doesn't matter how you get there, okay? All that matters is that you make it to the other side. Cause it's the climb.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, is that Miley Cyrus?

[Keith]

That's Miley Cyrus. I might have misquoted.

[Noah Grossman]

I was serious. I almost cried and shit. She didn't even write that.

[Olivia Sway]

And plus, if you keep doing the climb, it'll only get easier. And it's pretty remarkable. If you just keep committing to that, every single time is gonna be easier than the last. And then maybe one day you'll run up that thing.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, I gotta stop doing a few things for that.

[Keith]

That's funny. I was gonna ask you, did you end up passing out or just feeling like you're passing out?

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, I felt like it. I was pretty close to it. Like, I've never passed out, I don't think. I don't know. No, I passed out before on top of that, but definitely passed out before, but definitely felt close to it. I did not feel good. My body was, like, hurting, you know, don't do it, y'all.

[Keith]

Don't do it.

[Olivia Sway]

How good did he feel after?

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, man, I felt good. Like I said, I realized why people do it, you know, why people move forward. It's, like, beyond. Like, working out is not only, like, a workout or a distraction. It is like, it's a building, like, tool, you know? Like, it's one thing to distract yourself when you do stuff, you know, yo, like, you go through a breakup or something. Like, yo, I'm gonna distract myself. But it's another thing to, like, distract and build at the same time. I'm building up my endurance. I'm building up my calves. I got chicken legs. I don't know if y'all can see them. These are chickens. Oh, he really has chicken legs. But just, like, everything, you know, just like my body, you know, trying to lose some weight, but I'm gaining it. It's so weird. It's so weird. It's okay.

[Keith]

Dumb hurt. It's okay. Thank you. Ooh, Lord. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for sharing in safe space.

[Olivia Sway]

I think going back to, like, you were saying that, you know, you're trying these new things. Cause you're trying to, like, chase your happiness or whatever. Yeah.

[Noah Grossman]

Find it. Oh, wow.

[Olivia Sway]

I think there's also a pressure online to not change. And, you know, you came into this whole thing as Keith four years ago or five years ago, and the Keith then is not the same Keith as now. But maybe, maybe, maybe you've had this external pressure to stay who you were before.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, for sure.

[Olivia Sway]

And, you know, that can cause a lot of internal strife.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

Do you feel. Do you feel that way? Like, do you feel like you're. You can't. Like you're wondering, like, why you can't be a certain way or.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, like, that's like. Yes. You can't be a certain way. You can't do certain things. You gotta Watch your back. It's just a transitional period. Like. Like having so much time. Not so much time, but more time to self. You realize you have time to really reflect on self. Like, when I was working, I would reflect, but I didn't have time to think. But really think. Go into it. Now I have more time to think. And now that I have the time, I'm fighting. I'm like, okay, let's move forward. Let's move forward. However, I gotta get there. I'm gonna get there. I just gotta keep mo. I gotta keep living. You know what I mean? But, like, definitely all those things. Yes, definitely. Be transparent.

[Keith]

Like, your glasses.

[Noah Grossman]

Thank you. I like yours.

[Keith]

Thanks.

[Noah Grossman]

No. Okay, this is one thing I always tell you. Noah has really nice eyes. They're green. Yo. So, like, with Noah.

[Olivia Sway]

I'm trying to change Noah's subject.

[Noah Grossman]

No, no, Keith, we're talking about.

[Keith]

Wait. I was having a compliment. I liked it.

[Olivia Sway]

Okay, sorry.

[Noah Grossman]

Okay, so, like, Noah has really compliment.

[Olivia Sway]

Then we're back to Keith.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Noah Grossman]

We have really nice eyes. Right? Take off your glasses. Watch how big and nice his eyes are.

[Keith]

I don't know. I might have a unibrow.

[Noah Grossman]

No, you don't. It's.

[Olivia Sway]

No, unibrows are in. That's okay.

[Noah Grossman]

Look at this. Look at those, like. And do it like sexy eyes.

[Keith]

I don't. I'm uncomfortable now.

[Noah Grossman]

Give me one of these smirks.

[Olivia Sway]

For the audio listeners. Right now, Noah is giving some just sexy looks.

[Noah Grossman]

Is that what I did with my lips? Yes. Yes. Good job.

[Olivia Sway]

Okay, that's beautiful.

[Keith]

Thanks.

[Noah Grossman]

But here we go. What's up?

[Olivia Sway]

Keith, you ever thought about going to therapy?

[Noah Grossman]

Yes, I. At one point. I know I talked to Ryan about this. Ryan just knows too much. Ryan, why do we all talk to you about everything?

[Keith]

Dude, Ryan's a great dude.

[Noah Grossman]

He's a great guy. I think I had, like, a breakdown. I wanna say, like, two years ago. How long ago? It was about a year and a half ago. Two years ago at the office in Beverly Hills. At the. And it was like. It was rough. Like, I just could not get out of my own way. And y'all, like, I really, like. I deal so much. I'm very here. And I just remember having a breakdown. And even Ryan, like, I was like, I came to the conclusion that I needed to go to therapy. And I'm, like, talking about it and I would say it like, I need to go to therapy. I need to do this. I need to do that. Like, understanding that it was time, you know, like, just understanding it was Time. And Ryan said to me, and it stuck with me, and at the time, it didn't hit me, but until, like, over time, I'm like, I should have went. He said, but you're the type of person that won't go because you understand that you need to go. He said something like that. And I was like, dang. Like, that actually was what it was like. Ryan has been around the block, and he sees people for. He. Honestly, he sees people's soul. And for him to see my soul and just know, like, I'm over here, like, yeah, I need to go. Like, breaking down. I just need to go to therapy. I need to, you know, talk to someone. I need some help. And he was like, yeah, but, like, he said, you know, you said, that's good. Like, definitely go. Definitely go. But you're not gonna go because, like, you already, you know, you're here, you know, So I need to go. I definitely need to go now. There was a time. Look, I'm not necessarily breaking down, but, like, sometimes I think I've told Noah this. When I'm by myself, I find myself. I'm very, like, positive and optimistic, and I believe that anything that I want, I will have. And anything that I say, like, I'm all about that whole. You know, it's how I grew up. Always had support around me. Like, there are people that don't have support, y'all, and that don't have, like, a support system. My family's a very big support system in my life. I, like, look at my nephew right now, and he has the same support system. I'm like, yo, this is how they work for me. Everything starts at home. But even beyond that, like, having your. I lost my. One second.

[Olivia Sway]

You're far from home.

[Noah Grossman]

Definitely far from home. Don't have anybody here, but, dang, I lost my train of thought.

[Keith]

You were talking about how, like, you're a very positive person who believes things come with you, but when you're alone.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, yeah, okay. So, like, I'm very positive, very optimistic. I get on Noah all the time because he can be a little, you.

[Keith]

Know, I'm cynical as fuck.

[Noah Grossman]

Cynical. Noah's very cynical, and that drives me nuts. And don't think that I'm cynical or anything now, but, like, I'm just. When I'm by myself, I've started talking out loud and saying negative things to myself. And that has never, ever, ever been a thing. And I'm like, yo, where did this come from? Like, who's, like, spirit or whatever that I know around me?

[Keith]

No, no, no, no, no. But, like, who's.

[Noah Grossman]

Like, whatever. Like, who got on me? Like, where is this coming from? And I'm like, I have no ideas. But, like, whenever I find myself saying some of the nastiest things to myself, and it's not even, like, nasty nasty. It's just, like, wrong to, like, say certain things about yourself to yourself by yourself. It's like, yeah, I need a therapist.

[Keith]

Who.

[Noah Grossman]

Out there. I need a thorough pause. I need a thorough pause. I need some therapy. But, like, when you say those things to yourself, I correct myself and I stand corrected. And I always be like, no, like, this is not what it is. That's not true. That's not true. Because you. You shall have what you say, y'all. So make sure that you're speaking positive affirmations over your life. I mean, like, the cliche, y'all. The cliche is a cliche because everybody, like, goes through it. Cliche is not a bad. It can be, but, like, if somebody's giving you some advice, sometimes you don't want to just take advice from everybody. But sometimes when you get something like, shit, and it's just like, yo, like, this is what it is. Like, oh, that's the cliche. Like, you want more. Like, stop looking for more. That's. It is what it is. It's simple, but it's so difficult at the same time. I'm just here, y'all. You know. You see me just over here, like, going, balance. I'm a libra, too, so I'm like, ooh.

[Keith]

I don't know what that means.

[Noah Grossman]

What? Libra?

[Keith]

I don't know what any of those mean.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, you. Oh. Like, okay, so, like, we're very. We're about balance. So, you know, like, I'll be saying one thing, and I'll be like, positive. But then I'll come negative, you know? So I'll do that. We're caring. We're loving. I'm just about to give you all the good things. Yeah.

[Keith]

I don't know.

[Noah Grossman]

I don't wanna talk about the bad things.

[Keith]

I just feel like those apply to hopefully everyone. You know what I mean?

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Okay.

[Noah Grossman]

See, this is a problem with him. Cause he, like, sorry. Yeah. Like, that's the thing. Like, I'll be having fun with something, and he'll be like, okay. But, you know, like, what about this? Or what about, like, it's just like.

[Keith]

Hey, what if you stopped having fun with that? Right?

[Noah Grossman]

Like, let me live.

[Keith]

Sorry, bro.

[Noah Grossman]

You never let me live.

[Keith]

I'm sorry.

[Noah Grossman]

Good Lord. Sorry. Look, we just made it about some other shit.

[Olivia Sway]

I think I'm generally a positive, optimistic person, but, I mean, yesterday, like, I was. I didn't. I didn't come into the shoot until, like, three in the afternoon, and that wasn't until I was called. Normally I'm. I'm coming into the office at 9am Every single single day. And then it was just because the shoot was. Was later. I had all this extra time, and I was, like, getting in my head and. And was just, like, thinking these kind of, like, negative things, like doubting. Doubting my whole sort of, like, place and, you know, in work and in life.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

And, yeah, it's like. It's a. It's a scary place to be. And then, you know, I came here and then. And then started working on stuff, and I felt a lot better.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

But it's. It's that kind of thing where it sounds like you're probably very similar, where, you know, you. When you're just alone in your own thoughts, that's when you just. You start stewing in it. And I mean, yeah, obviously, like, positive affirmations, if that helps. Totally.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, for sure.

[Olivia Sway]

But you got to ask, do you know the root cause of these thoughts? And are you actually.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, for sure, for sure. Sure. Yes, by all means, like, every. Yes, yes. You know, and I think understanding where, like, a lot of things come from and like, knowing that I need therapy because of certain specific situations. You know what I mean? Just knowing that, it's, like, frightening. It's very frightening, y'all. And, like, also in the black community, we do not. We do not go get therapy. I think I told my dad. My dad's a minister, and he's. I think he's changed. He's definitely changed his viewpoints now, but I told him, like, right after the conversation with Ryan, the breakdown, I had a meltdown. Guys. You guys would have loved to have seen that, but had a meltdown. And, like, what my dad and I ended up talking to my dad about, and I was like, yo, like, dad, I need to go to therapy. And he's just, like. He said, just pray. Like, honestly. Honestly just said that. He said that to me. And I'm thinking, like, no, that's the problem. That is the problem. Why can't I pray? Angola therapy, you know what I mean? Like, I get it. Like, I get it. I grew up that way. That is energy that I go to, that I reach out to. You know what I mean? Hands up, like, I will go There, like, that's easy for me to do therapy. I need to talk to somebody. Like, I need to talk to somebody. And it's so funny that I say this now because, like, just a couple weeks ago, my dad ended up saying, you know, I kind of went off on him, and, like, I ended up getting off the phone. I'm like, I'm talking to you about, like, you, like, you need to go to therapy, obviously. But then he ended up writing on Facebook, he's my dad that is, like, changed into, like. I don't know what has happened to him, but, like, just the things that he posts on Facebook right now is just so positive. And he said, yo, beyond the church, like, the church needs therapy. We. We need to, like, go seek, like, counseling and, like, therapy and all that. I was like, whoa, like a year and a half ago, you just tell me to pregnant. You know what I'm saying? And I like. And I did. And I did that. You know what I mean? But, like, for him to say that and just come around, it just. Oh, no. I guess parents do kind of hear their kids out too.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah. I mean, there's certain communities that are. That it's, you know, mental health is stigmatized where it's, like, seen as a. As a sign of weakness.

[Noah Grossman]

Yes, for sure.

[Olivia Sway]

And, I mean, for a long time, I saw it the same way. Like, therapy. What, are you crazy?

[Noah Grossman]

Exactly.

[Olivia Sway]

And, I mean, even after I accepted the fact that, like, you don't have to be having problems to go to therapy, it still took me a long time and a few sort of, like, cataclysmic events to decide to finally go.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

So, I mean, it's a process, and you can only go once you feel like you can. But, you know, we're all rooting for you.

[Noah Grossman]

That's. Oh, thank you. We were all rooting for you.

[Keith]

I'm on the other team.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, no. You cynical ass.

[Keith]

I don't know what team that is, but I'm on that team.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, no, no. Thank you, though.

[Olivia Sway]

I really appreciate that, you guys, completely.

[Noah Grossman]

We are like, I love this guy.

[Keith]

I love you too, bro.

[Noah Grossman]

I love you.

[Keith]

I've been through a lot of life with you.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah. Like, car accidents.

[Keith]

Yeah. I still hurt from those.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, I do, too. I should have sued you. Oh.

[Keith]

You know, instead of a therapist, see a chiropractor.

[Noah Grossman]

Yes. Can you pay for that?

[Keith]

No.

[Noah Grossman]

No. Okay.

[Keith]

I wish I could.

[Noah Grossman]

Good Lord. You definitely asked me, said, yo, do you need, like, anything? Yeah, you said it up. You're good.

[Keith]

Well, dude, I had To. I was already getting sued by the other people.

[Noah Grossman]

I should have took a piece of that cake.

[Keith]

Oh, there was none left. There's none left.

[Noah Grossman]

Well, I'm glad I didn't.

[Keith]

Y.

[Noah Grossman]

That's what friends are for.

[Keith]

Yeah. Really not to sue you.

[Olivia Sway]

I mean, talking about change. I mean, holy shit, Noah. We got you when you were 17.

[Keith]

Oh, God.

[Olivia Sway]

Like, we. You came into Smosh when you were literally a minor.

[Keith]

Mm. I think I technically illegally signed the contract.

[Olivia Sway]

No, you were legal 18.

[Keith]

I was legal 18, but I don't think in the contract asked for a parental seat.

[Noah Grossman]

You see what I'm talking about?

[Olivia Sway]

Did your parents not sign it?

[Keith]

No, I think I signed it illegally. I would have stood, but thinking back on the very first moments of working there, I definitely did not. There's a section that's missing on the contract.

[Olivia Sway]

Oops.

[Noah Grossman]

Well, why did you sign? You're a criminal.

[Keith]

Yeah, I was being a loose criminal. Well. Cause at first in the contract, I was gonna leave at two years and then go to school, but I still didn't want to be a lawyer, so I was like, I'm gonna stick it out. I'm keep doing comedy.

[Olivia Sway]

I like that. So your plan was almost like you went on, like a. Like you were planning on going almost like a Mormon mission. You leave for two years, essentially, you leave high school for two years. Do do your mission and then. And then go off to college.

[Keith]

Yeah, kind of. Yeah. Just because. And yeah, I mean, the whole. The whole setup at Defy was really great and also, like, really hard in certain situations. So I definitely fought so that I could at least get out of the contract that I was signing, just because it was a four year contract and not knowing what I was going to get into. But the only way that I could have an out was in order to go to school. And Defy made it so that if I did, I would have to go to school full time and I'd have to send them my schedules every week, and all of my homework assignments couldn't be posted online.

[Noah Grossman]

That's crazy.

[Keith]

Like, some wack stuff. Yeah. But it still was enough for me to be like, okay. And also convince my parents, which I would have done it anyway, that it was okay that I was not going to school. So at least there was still a school.

[Noah Grossman]

If Kim Kardashian can do it, you can too. Let's just say that you can still go back to school.

[Keith]

Oh, she went back.

[Noah Grossman]

I still do comedy.

[Keith]

Oh, is she doing law school right now? That's amazing.

[Noah Grossman]

You can do it too.

[Keith]

I might do that. Yeah. Once I have that much money.

[Olivia Sway]

Are you thinking about going back to school?

[Keith]

Not currently, no. I mean, to some degree, the schooling that I'm doing now is more like improving my comedy tools and more so making myself more better. More better, More better. Making myself more better. But I'm showing. I should read a book. But yeah, at some point I would. Yeah. I guess the only option would be, like, online school, which is what Shane did, which is awesome. But also it takes a long time.

[Olivia Sway]

He's finishing up this year.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, damn.

[Keith]

But he's been doing online school since I've known him. Yeah, like, since I've known him well back, like, way back then.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, my God.

[Keith]

Like, he was working towards it and I'm sure, like different levels of like, degrees and stuff like that.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah, yeah, he's getting in.

[Keith]

It takes a long time.

[Olivia Sway]

He's graduating.

[Keith]

That's also. Cause he's successful, though. Like, he could have done it quicker, but he was too busy, like, being a successful actor and being really funny and still having together. Oh, my God.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, he's good.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah. I don't. I don't know how he. How he does it all. I love him because he does. He does Smosh, he does Goldbergs, and he's going to school. It's insane.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

But it just kind of shows, like, if. I mean, there's always, you know, a lot of times, like, you can make excuses about, like, oh, I don't have time to do this. There's always time. You just have to find it.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah. Freaking Shane, man.

[Noah Grossman]

Hold on. How are you, bro?

[Keith]

Oh, yeah, we have not asked you. How are you?

[Noah Grossman]

How are you?

[Olivia Sway]

Oh, I don't answer questions.

[Keith]

Oh, why not?

[Noah Grossman]

How are you?

[Keith]

That's an honest question.

[Noah Grossman]

Come on.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah, it's been interesting. It's been an interesting, like, I don't know, six, seven months. It's weird because, I mean, yeah, I've always kind of been one of the leaders in Smosh, but I've never had to be a leader. You know what I mean?

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

And so that's been interesting because I've always been. I've always been. I'm more of a follower type. I'm always more of a watch where other people fuck up and then improve on that.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, can I ask you, did you not feel. Did you. So you didn't know that you were a leader? You didn't know that that was like your position? Because I think that's us coming into it. That's we, you know, we expected leadership, you know what I mean, from you.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah. I think, you know, going into this new venture, I knew I had to take this position because nobody else could. So it was kind of like. It was just kind of like my duty to be in this position, but it's not. I never had, like, an aspiration to be, like, the boss and telling people what to do.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

You know, it's. I'm always. I'm more of a. I'm definitely more of a diplomat than I am, you know, a policymaker. I sort of like. I sort of, like, take in. Take in everybody's, like, thoughts and feelings about everything and then. And then sort of formulate my own. My own opinion based off of that. To be in this position, it's kind of like. I don't know, like, I sometimes struggle with the fact that, like, is this something that I'm not equipped for or is this. You're definitely.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah. I really have to say this, bro. I used to, like, honestly, I'm gonna be transparent with you, brother. And I kinda held resentment toward you for a little bit because I didn't feel that you. You led us in the beginning, you know what I mean? And you saying this makes me feel so much better because you didn't know. You honestly didn't know. And I was like, why isn't he, like, showing us the ropes? Like, what is he like? But you honestly didn't know that was your thing or, like, nobody knew. None of us knew what the we were doing, bro. And I'm just over here like, where's our. Like, what. We don't. You know, nobody knew. And, like, you saying this, bro, I'm so glad because I just. Like, a part of me is, like, at peace knowing that, like, you didn't know. You know, like, I'm over here like, yo, like, help, you know, without asking for help, because nobody's gonna be like, help. But, like, at the same time, like, you were. You're like, I'm just glad I asked you that. I just got some peace.

[Olivia Sway]

Oh, interesting. I mean, I would have loved for you to ask for help. I mean, like, the thing is, you know, nobody's a mind reader, and we don't know when people are struggling until they tell us or until they're having a mental breakdown. So, yeah, it's. That's. That's also, like, one of those. One of the issues that. That I'm dealing with is just everybody's. Everybody's struggling with something.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

And. But not everybody wants to just tell you Flat out, they might go complain to somebody else, and then you hear through somebody else that somebody else is having a problem. You're like, oh, what? So that's. That's been kind of. That's been kind of an interesting thing we're dealing with. But, yeah, I mean, look, we. We don't know what we're doing. Yeah, that's. That's. That's the. That's the beauty and. And problem with YouTube. It's like nobody knows. Nobody knows what's going on. Like, we're. We're all just adapting. We're just. We're just changing on the fly. You know, something changes on YouTube. We're like, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right, let's do this.

[Keith]

That.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah. So, I mean, you know, our goal was to. Was to always bring on people and develop them into these, like, YouTubers, you know, like. Or, you know, develop them as talent or as writers or as producers and sort of build it up. We didn't have a playbook for that because nobody on YouTube has ever done that. Like, like, how many YouTube channels have changed. Have changed talent? Nobody.

[Noah Grossman]

Wow. I just got chills. I just got chills.

[Keith]

That's what we used to talk about, that we were the guinea pigs.

[Noah Grossman]

We were the guinea pigs.

[Keith]

And it's like, future of the industry.

[Noah Grossman]

History.

[Keith]

History. I'm very thankful.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah, I mean, we're all guinea pigs. I mean, this is like, we've. When. When Anthony and I started on YouTube, there was straight up. There was no playbook. Yeah, like, it's. It's constantly evolving. So.

[Noah Grossman]

No, like, I really think that's why, like, I didn't know that that's the answer that I would get, you know, And I just. It just. A light went off in my head, and I'm like, oh, my God. Like, you know what I mean? Like, fuck, yeah. Good Lord. Like, you didn't know. You honestly didn't know?

[Olivia Sway]

I mean, because you guys all have your specific talents and stuff, and we always wanted to try to find out what that is and sort of, like, raise it up. Because we all come from different backgrounds, and I think that that's one of the cool things that we're able to do with our sort of, like, ensemble of people is like, my hope was that you're able to bring in people from, like, different life experiences and then. And then use those experiences to elevate the comedy, because we, you know, there's only so much comedy that. That I can make from my perspective.

[Noah Grossman]

Exactly.

[Olivia Sway]

So. So, yeah, I mean, that was always that was always the goal.

[Noah Grossman]

Thank you for sharing that, brother. Like, it just. It definitely, like, put so much peace in my head of, like, concerning, like, like just it all, like the whole experience for, like, the past, like, almost five years now.

[Keith]

Yeah, it was a rough place where we were. And that's like, once it all went down, that's definitely, like, where I started to get my peace from it too. Cause, like, it's very difficult to not hold and not even, like resentment at specific people, but the entire system and how it was structured was that at which on every level, people were given different jobs that they had to do under different terms, and then they were forced to interact without the management. That was technically everyone boss correctly interacting. Because, like, for me, technically I was working for Defy and then leased to you guys, but I was like, with you guys every day. And that's where I was working. But I was still under different terms with a different chain of consequences in command that I had to go through along with you guys having to deal with kind of just rich assholes who didn't really know what they were doing, but were gladly just taking the money out from us, so we couldn't really produce things or correctly invest in what we wanted to do on all fronts. So, yeah, it was just like a big shithole. And I realized that once it all crumbled, that it was like, oh, it wasn't one specific person. Like, everyone was trying to survive in this just horrible, horrible, horrible place.

[Olivia Sway]

I mean, it's hard to adapt as it is.

[Keith]

I love the people that I worked with, and I mean legitimately, everyone that I met and even the people who, like, I would say, like, oh, you drove this company into the ground. Like, I would gladly sit at dinner with them. And I know that sounds weird, but it's. Cause they were so nice to me legitimately. It's just the entire, like, I don't know what was going on. We just had no money. And I know that I didn't have it.

[Noah Grossman]

My thing is, what the fuck do we need to sit down and talk about?

[Keith]

I don't know. They're nice cars.

[Noah Grossman]

Whoa.

[Keith]

Could I sit in that once?

[Noah Grossman]

Can I borrow it?

[Keith]

Hey, you remember that time that you couldn't provide. No, never mind. We're not gonna do that. We're not gonna do that.

[Olivia Sway]

We can cut it out if it's too.

[Keith]

I feel bad. I've just been fine. I'm getting a nod from Ryan. Okay, fine. Okay. So I guess we'll just go back. I guess we'll Just go down a list of things that I feel okay with now because I've had to.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, my God.

[Keith]

But I guess list number one would be part timers. When we were working on Part timers, we did 22 episodes, which was supposed to be 44 episodes. But I guess first gripe is number one. And obviously it's not up to you. Cause I don't work for you. I worked for a different company that owned you. And it creates a very strange relationship that's difficult on everyone, which is like something that you don't understand until you work in a place that's got bureaucracy. Bureaucracy. How much? That is the weight and stress of every day on everyone. But I was supposed to be paid and not much money for 22 episodes. I was supposed to walk away with like $3,000, which 15% would leave me. Okay, all good. And then taxes, doesn't matter. But it was like, okay, this is great for me to be off and doing something that's super fun. Getting to work on the project, which was great. The second season rolls around. First off, I never got paid at all, even though they told me I was getting paid. But the bigger issue is that the second season comes around. Yeah. Apart from me not getting paid when I was supposed to. The second season comes around and they didn' Lunch. For the crew. It was a walk off lunch. And I know if I'm not getting paid my hundred dollar day rate, like, how much money is the crew getting? And now they have to go off and buy their own lunch. And the first off, I have to sit there as a cast member and eat lunch. Because I get lunch for the eight of us. Because it's like, obviously we need lunch. Because I have people who represent me and will like, make this a bigger shithole than it already is. Because you're not paying me, you know, like, I want to be a part of this. Everyone does. But you're making it hard for everyone who wants to be a part of this. So the crew has to walk off. Whatever. The only day when everyone got lunch, it was when the executive producers were coming by, which is normal that you would do this on a set that when the executive producers come by, you're gonna have the nicest food possible. But normally people are eating every day. But no, the one day everyone got to eat it was freshly grilled steaks out in front of you. Like it was a big show. Like, it was nuts. And the producers come by and they're like, wow, this is a great place. Well, they really are putting Their stuff into it. And then they leave and no one's eating. And I was just like, man, that's such a rough position for me because I'm friends with these people. I'm friends with Otto who made the cake cannon. Like I'm friends with. And I'm watching them leave as I'm eating my shit sandwich every day. It felt so bad. But overall, that experience was fun. Minus that. It's just really hard to, like, feel great about things.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah.

[Keith]

When like, you're like, oh, shit, this company. And then like one of the producers who once again, really good friends with him. I'm not gonna name it.

[Noah Grossman]

I don't know what you're about to say.

[Keith]

Because I like him. He's actually a fun person. He's just also someone that is willing to watch people not eat lunch and then at the end buy a new Audi. And it's like, where did you get that new Audi? Was that off of your salary for this one project or have you been saving? You don't owe me an explanation, but maybe don't drive it here. That's it.

[Olivia Sway]

I remember that.

[Noah Grossman]

Good lord. That's so nice.

[Keith]

But they're really great people and people that I would love to work with again. And not even just cause I need a job. Because they're actually fun people. They're just also so in the thick of the bullshit. Cause it's like they're also in the system. It's not like they're the one who designed it. They're dealing with their own bullshit. They're just also not helping the people below them lift the ladder.

[Olivia Sway]

I think that was also just an issue of people being used to TV budgets and whatnot, having to adjust to a YouTube budget. And I just don't think they did the right accounting, bro.

[Keith]

There should have been a documentary happening of us producing that show because we shot.

[Olivia Sway]

I want to say there was some cool stuff. There's some cool stuff with that show. Like, I. I think there was some. There's some good stuff that came out of it. Like, I mean, just the fact that like, we didn't build a set. We rented like a whole building or.

[Keith]

Movie theater turned wedding planning studio.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah, we turned a whole building into like a fake Chuck E. Cheese. It was kind of dope. Like, they definitely didn't. I don't know if they did it to permit because they were just like cutting holes in the ceiling and putting in lights and stuff.

[Keith]

They didn't.

[Olivia Sway]

And. Well, they definitely didn't because season two ended and we didn't want to do another. We were on, we were supposed to do season three and four. We convinced YouTube to. Instead of doing that for us to do Ghost Mates.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh yeah, yeah.

[Olivia Sway]

Okay, okay. So after season two, we were like, okay, we don't want to do season three and four. I ran into the, one of the producers and, and she, she didn't know at the time that we weren't going to do it. And she was like, yeah, did you hear like it. It rained and the whole building flooded and it ruined everything. And I was like, oh no.

[Noah Grossman]

Yes.

[Olivia Sway]

Oh, I don't know what we're going to do, but I think it flooded because they cut those holes in the ceiling.

[Keith]

Oh, definitely. It was not a good build, but.

[Olivia Sway]

We had an entire frickin ball pit. We had a giant, we built a giant ball pit that we had no idea what to do with all the ball pit balls afterwards. We're like, does anyone want ball pit balls?

[Keith]

That's like the most disgusting thing.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Keith]

But they would sanitize them. They would take them and they would sanitize them every now and then.

[Noah Grossman]

It's cool. I just don't want to be up in no balls.

[Keith]

Dude, that place, that was like a vacation.

[Olivia Sway]

That experience, that was wild, man. We shot it out in Santa Clarita, bro.

[Noah Grossman]

We shot about all of that.

[Keith]

Literally shot 11 full episodes. 11, like 20 minute episodes in I think 13 days.

[Olivia Sway]

It was wild, man.

[Keith]

And then the second season was maybe 14 days. Like it was a total of 30 days at most to produce 22 episodes. That's ridiculous.

[Olivia Sway]

It was a lot of content.

[Noah Grossman]

All I remember is you not being at the office and my light was a little dimmed because you were there.

[Keith]

I thought you were about to say it was a lot easier to get along with everyone.

[Noah Grossman]

I get along with everybody. But it was just like, where's my friend?

[Keith]

Thanks bro.

[Noah Grossman]

Meet my friend.

[Keith]

It was super fun. I remember. Oh my gosh. It would work the mornings and then work the nights and I would just sleep in the middle and then I'd go home and I'd wake up and I'd do it again and it was so fun.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah, it was a good, it was a good like just like distraction from the usual thing. And I think that, you know, it's one of those things where we realize like, oh, the fun. This is like a fun sort of like diversion from the normal day to day YouTube stuff. Also I, I think we had the best way of killing off a character, which was right after you shared A romantic first kiss with you.

[Keith]

The wire in this shot, by the way.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah. I mean, you know, again, limited budget, but we killed off a character in probably one of my favorite ways, and I think it was. I don't want to take credit for it because, I mean, there's so many other people that wrote on it, but. So you guys have a kiss. Whatever. She falls off a building right after you guys have a romantic kiss. She trips on some rags or something and falls back off the building, lands on the ground, and you're like, oh, my God, she's dead. And you look over and she's like, oh, I'm okay. I just landed on some rags. And then a car runs her over right afterwards, kills her.

[Keith]

And it's actually pretty funny because they do the shot of, like, the bumper of the car. Like, it's kind of some scary movie.

[Noah Grossman]

Shit where it's just the camera coming.

[Keith]

At her and she's just like. It's pretty funny.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, my God.

[Olivia Sway]

I have to say, like, I think we killed off a character in one of the funniest ways.

[Noah Grossman]

That's good.

[Keith]

You want to know what the best part of Part Timers is?

[Olivia Sway]

What's that?

[Keith]

The director and not the dp, but one of our camera operators are now married. Laura and Hunter are married. Laura, the director and Hunter, who I think. I don't know what the rules would be, but he wasn't the director of photography, but I think he was, like, first cam op. I don't know if there's an order.

[Noah Grossman]

You think that's where they.

[Keith]

No, that is where they met. And now they're married. They're married. We made it where they met. Yes.

[Noah Grossman]

That's beautiful.

[Keith]

Both of them were the best. And Laura is. Is, like, totally female director killing the game right now.

[Olivia Sway]

Oh, yes.

[Keith]

She's, like, got articles about her. She's doing a whole bunch of stuff. I want to say she, like, directed an episode of Broad City or something like that, but I could be lying.

[Noah Grossman]

Go ahead.

[Keith]

But, like, general comedy stuff, and she's, like, all out here making sure all of her sets are all women. Like, she's.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, like, she's like. She's it.

[Keith]

Yeah, she's killing.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, that's incredible. That's incredible.

[Keith]

And then she's got her husband and, like, filming shit, like, on the set is perfect.

[Noah Grossman]

It's really cool.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Noah Grossman]

They just got married, like, everybody. She has a whole, like. Like, women. She has a one. A woman crew. Crew filled with crew. Filled. I cannot say crew to fill up with the Women. She has a crew filled with women. But, like, her husband's the only guy.

[Keith]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, even all her male actors are female.

[Noah Grossman]

Yes, I'm with it.

[Olivia Sway]

So, guys, we're almost rounding up on our time, so I just want to ask one, one last question. How do you think your dreams have in the last four years?

[Keith]

I don't remember them as much.

[Noah Grossman]

Like I was saying, like, transitional period. The transition for me is realizing also that my dreams haven't changed and I have to continue forward, like, with what I've already created. You know what I mean? Like, things change, ideas change. I could wanna do more stuff, but the foundation of it is honestly still the same. It's the same. Although, like we said, Keith has changed. You're not the same. I am. And that's, I think, running from, like, what I was doing before, you know, and not trying to, like, from the, like, the parodies and everything. I got so let down, like, within the, like, last few months, like. And I was like, I don't wanna do that anymore. And I'm like, what should I do? Like, what should I do? Should I do, like, this type of sketch comedy? Should I do the parody? Do all the shit that I've been doing? Like, when you start changing stuff, I mean, you can add onto it, but the foundation of it has to be. And, like, I'm glad that I just found that out. Two days ago, like, I had a meeting with my manager, and I wish we were just discussing, like, different things and different ideas. And I started, like, pitching him ideas for stuff, and he was just, like, writing them down, like, just trying to grasp. Hold. He's like, how many people we need for this? How many? Just the whole thing. And I'm like, whoa, I just gotta do it. I just have to do it. Just do the work. Ain't shit changed. Ain't shit changed. But I was gonna say something so wrong.

[Keith]

Continue.

[Olivia Sway]

Just say. Say we can cut it out.

[Noah Grossman]

No.

[Keith]

So funny. No, no.

[Noah Grossman]

It's not worth it.

[Keith]

Okay.

[Noah Grossman]

I was gonna say ain't shit changed, but the size of my dick. Cause it's cold.

[Keith]

That's funny. That's not as bad as.

[Noah Grossman]

That's probably not gonna make it right.

[Olivia Sway]

I thought you were gonna say something extremely racist. So that's.

[Noah Grossman]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Keith]

Age should change by me getting fired from snl.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah.

[Keith]

Let me just say something horrible right now so when I'm, like, 45, I can fuck myself.

[Noah Grossman]

Do it, do it, do it, do it.

[Keith]

Okay.

[Noah Grossman]

I'm here for this.

[Keith]

Yeah. Except, wait. Nobody would ever say those things. Nobody would ever say those things and say that. That's really a joke. If anyone listens to those sentences that this man has said.

[Noah Grossman]

You talking about the SNL guy? Yeah.

[Keith]

I think his name's, like, Shane Something with a G. Much less funny Shane.

[Olivia Sway]

We already forgot about him.

[Noah Grossman]

He's that canceled.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah. I don't.

[Keith]

Bro, I wouldn't even say cancer canceled. Like, he just has a consequence for what he did. He wasn't canceled. There was a consequence.

[Noah Grossman]

Right. Yeah.

[Keith]

If you make those statements publicly and then go on a show that just now is hiring their first Asian person.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah.

[Keith]

You probably are not gonna stay there.

[Noah Grossman]

No.

[Olivia Sway]

Technically, Ron Schneider was the first Asian classmate. Oh, he's Filipino.

[Noah Grossman]

He's the second one.

[Olivia Sway]

Oh, okay.

[Keith]

But I don't mean to speak for anyone else.

[Olivia Sway]

Yeah.

[Keith]

But I guess they've got a lot of Jewish.

[Noah Grossman]

Love it.

[Keith]

Really love it.

[Noah Grossman]

I'm killing the game. They got, like, two black people.

[Keith]

Yeah, but Kenan's been there for a long time.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, yeah, whatever. I love Keenan, by the way. He's great.

[Olivia Sway]

So your dream's still the same?

[Noah Grossman]

It's still honestly the same. Oh, okay. Oh, like, Mike. Have you guys ever seen that movie?

[Keith]

I love that movie.

[Noah Grossman]

Okay, hold on. I gotta be honest, y'all. Like, I ate some hot shit last night and my stomach is burning.

[Keith]

Dude, I had Jack in the Box. Tacos and fries.

[Noah Grossman]

Listen, hold on. If I could. Prairie Dog. I couldn't. That's what. That's what I'm saying. It's just coming out as liquid.

[Keith]

No. Cause the back half is softer than the front half.

[Noah Grossman]

Oh, my God. Yes.

[Keith]

So your body's made of cloth.

[Noah Grossman]

Could we wrap this up?

[Keith]

Yeah, wrap it for sure. Wrap it. Oh, my dreams. I'll answer the question, too. My dreams.

[Noah Grossman]

I like the paper. Toilet paper.

[Keith]

Yeah. I like the wrapping.

[Noah Grossman]

Hurry up.

[Keith]

Okay. My dreams. I guess I didn't really have many dreams beforehand. Now I don't know if I've got huge dreams that I got. More like daydreams. Just really fun ideas that I enjoy to make. And if there's stuff going on, I like to improve it. I enjoy being able to help make things better and at least stand behind something. Like a lot of the smosh content I've ever worked on. My favorite thing to say is that I could teach PowerPoints on it, which is what I like to say about all my content. I don't care if you like it or not, but I'll gladly sit here and be like, oh, no. This is a conversation that was had and why it was had and why we're saying these five specific words instead of these other five specific words. And this is technically a joke, whether or not you like it. But we set it up in a structure that is actually comedy versus kind of just random ideas being jumbled together. So that is super fun. And that I would credit to my experience here. And I gotta say, Ryan, Trinity, who's off to my left, that dude is captain teacher of life and skill and ability. That person get you one.

[Olivia Sway]

Captain teacher.

[Keith]

Captain teacher.

[Noah Grossman]

Yeah, that's Captain teacher.

[Olivia Sway]

Captain teacher.

[Noah Grossman]

Ryan, y'all don't have to dookie anymore, so take your time.

[Keith]

Well, all right. Well, I finished.

[Noah Grossman]

You finished?

[Keith]

Yeah. So I'm sorry for you.

[Noah Grossman]

Good Lord. That was a lot. I started sweating. I had to take off the headphones.

[Keith]

Duke. More than once a day.

[Noah Grossman]

It depends on the day.

[Keith]

Okay.

[Olivia Sway]

Well, knowing Keith, thank you so much for coming on.

[Keith]

Of course.

[Olivia Sway]

Wow. We dug deep, guys.

[Noah Grossman]

Yes.

[Olivia Sway]

This is like. This was a frickin. This was a. This is a deep one. I don't know if we've ever. I don't know if we've ever gone this deep before.

[Keith]

Ooh, deep in the 60s.

[Olivia Sway]

We haven't even gone this deep in just, like, normal real life.

[Noah Grossman]

This is the deepest we've ever gone. There's depth here.

[Keith]

Keith and I have gone so deep into Rihanna versus Beyonce. A day.

[Noah Grossman]

That is. No, that is Olivia.

[Keith]

Yeah, I know.

[Noah Grossman]

Noah and I don't have. Okay, we're wrapping it up for another time.

[Olivia Sway]

For another time. For another time. And thank you guys so much for listening and watching. You can listen to us on any of the podcast apps, or you can watch us on the smoshcast. YouTube. Also, you guys gotta get this smosh slush cult collab while it's still here. Cause it's going fast. People are just snatching this stuff up. Fiast. We got hats. We got hoodie. We got the shirt right here. We got stickers, we got pins. We do have socks coming. They're on their way, but they're fly, so look out for those socks.

[Noah Grossman]

They're fly. Fly.

[Keith]

That was the one thing that I asked for. They were like, you get one thing. I was like, I want those socks.

[Noah Grossman]

And we're like, so they only gave you one thing?

[Olivia Sway]

No, we can give you guys everything.

[Keith]

No, no, I was saying my original conversation. That's what I was recounting. I did get a separate email. Sorry. Where I could get more items.

[Noah Grossman]

That's what I'M saying. I'm like, you only got one. Cause I got all of it. Ye stingy.

[Olivia Sway]

You get 20% off.

[Noah Grossman]

I'm sorry.

[Keith]

Left foot or right foot?

[Olivia Sway]

Thank you guys so much for coming on. Of course, bro.

[Noah Grossman]

Anytime.

[Olivia Sway]

This was. This was really great. Thank you. Do you guys feel good?

[Noah Grossman]

Yes, I feel good here. I'm just putting it out there. If anybody's doing free therapy session. This is the worst.

[Keith]

It is the worst, actually. Like, thank God. Because of where we are. You can go to the LGBTQ center whether or not you identify, and they will give you help or find you a resource legitimately for free. It's the closest thing to health care that we have.

[Noah Grossman]

Okay.

[Olivia Sway]

Also, there's a. There's a website resource that I could. That I can send you.

[Noah Grossman]

Really?

[Olivia Sway]

A lot of therapists will do sliding scale.

[Noah Grossman]

Okay.

[Olivia Sway]

Based on your income.

[Noah Grossman]

Okay, cool.

[Olivia Sway]

It's also some fact out there for you guys.

[Keith]

Hell, yeah.

[Noah Grossman]

Go get therapy, y'all.

[Olivia Sway]

Therapy isn't always really expensive. Sometimes it is, but it's not always. You can look into it.

[Noah Grossman]

Bye.