S1: #35 - Demonetized For Life w/ Mini Ladd

Summary

Smosh Mouth Podcast - Season 1, Episode 35: "Demonetized For Life w/ Mini Ladd"

Release Date: October 16, 2019
Hosts: Smosh (Ian, Damien, and rotating guests)
Guest: Craig Thompson (also known as Mini Ladd)

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1. Introduction and Guest Introduction

The episode kicks off with the usual light-hearted banter among the hosts, introducing Craig Thompson, a well-known YouTuber and friend of the Smosh crew. They set the tone for an informal and engaging conversation, steering clear of strict podcast formatting to maintain a fun and spontaneous atmosphere.

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2. Craig Thompson’s Tour Experiences

a. Challenges on Tour Buses Craig delves into his recent touring experiences, highlighting the physical and logistical challenges faced on tour buses. He shares anecdotes about unstable bunk beds and uncomfortable sleeping arrangements, emphasizing the toll it takes both physically and mentally.

• Notable Quote:
  Craig Thompson (00:43): "Sleep up there because it's too wobbly. Say for example, I was insane."

b. Introduction of Stand-Up Gaming Hybrid Tour Transitioning from his touring woes, Craig discusses his new venture—a stand-up gaming hybrid tour called the "Demonetized Tour." He explains his desire to blend comedy with gaming to create a unique show that resonates with both his existing audience and new listeners.

• Notable Quote:
  Craig Thompson (52:20): "I want people to leave with a message of, you know, life can get real shitty. You gotta, you gotta go through the bad to really enjoy the good."

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3. Navigating Industry Relationships

The conversation shifts to the complexities of maintaining friendships and professional relationships within the content creation industry. The hosts discuss the difficulty of discerning genuine friendships from connections made purely for mutual benefit.

• Notable Quote:
  Ian (49:06): "If somebody is only reaching out to you saying like, hey, you wanna grab drinks? You wanna, how are you doing? You know, as a person, that's good."

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4. Content Creation and YouTube Policies

a. Demonitization Struggles A significant portion of the discussion centers around demonetization issues faced by content creators on YouTube. Craig shares his personal experiences of deleting raunchy videos in an attempt to align with YouTube's brand safety standards, only to find that his channel still struggles with monetization.

• Notable Quote:
  Craig Thompson (55:37): "Everything is fine. I would upload that same kind of content onto my new Craig Thompson channel. And most videos I upload on my Craig Thompson channel get trending...the other doesn't show up and recommended."

b. Balancing Authenticity with Platform Restrictions The hosts reflect on the challenge of maintaining authentic content while adhering to platform-imposed restrictions meant to make content "safe for all ages."

• Notable Quote:
  Ian (54:16): "It's interesting how it's affected some channels more than others. And I know you've been fighting with that for like over a year."

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5. Video Games and Pop Culture Commentary

a. Favorite Games and Gaming Experiences The discussion includes a deep dive into favorite video games, with Craig highlighting classics like the original Pokémon series and the BioShock franchise. They also touch upon newer titles like Sekiro and Goose Game, sharing personal gaming experiences and preferences.

• Notable Quote:
  Craig Thompson (44:50): "Favorite gaming series is BioShock. BioShock 1's fantastic. BioShock 2 is as good. Just a little bit short. BioShock Infinite was a little."

b. Critique of Media Franchises The hosts critically analyze popular media franchises such as Star Wars, Transformers, and Game of Thrones. They express disappointment with certain creative decisions, particularly in the later seasons of Game of Thrones and the prequels of Star Wars.

• Notable Quote:
  Craig Thompson (20:02): "The whole, literally like five seconds beforehand... I'm like, it's a dragon. Come on."

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6. Cultural Discussions and Personal Interests

a. Northern Ireland and Portland Living Craig shares his personal journey from Northern Ireland to Portland, Oregon, discussing the cultural differences and his reasons for relocating. He emphasizes the importance of self-care and maintaining a balance between work and personal life.

• Notable Quote:
  Craig Thompson (28:22): "I love LA, but I'm a big believer in making sure that you're okay as far as like self-care."

b. Music Production and Future Plans Looking ahead, Craig reveals his plans to venture into music production, aiming to release his first single or EP. He discusses his passion for house music and his desire to be taken seriously in the music industry beyond his YouTube persona.

• Notable Quote:
  Craig Thompson (56:10): "I'm writing music right now and I'm trying to release my first single and EP next year."

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7. Thematic Discussions on Friendship and Support

The episode concludes with a reflective discussion on the nature of friendships within the industry, stressing the importance of loyalty and maintaining a close-knit friend group. The hosts encourage supporting one another genuinely rather than seeking relationships based solely on mutual benefit.

• Notable Quote:
  Craig Thompson (48:24): "Just keep your friend group small. Stay loyal to them and they'll stay loyal to you."

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8. Conclusion and Closing Remarks

As the episode wraps up, the hosts promote Craig’s upcoming tour and his music endeavors, reinforcing the supportive community among the Smosh crew and their guests. They also briefly touch upon continuous efforts to adapt content in the ever-evolving digital landscape.

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Key Takeaways:

• Touring Challenges: Craig Thompson highlights the often-overlooked physical strains of touring content creators.

• YouTube Policies: There's an ongoing struggle between maintaining authentic content and adhering to platform monetization requirements.

• Authentic Relationships: Genuine friendships are crucial, as opportunistic connections can lead to disillusionment.

• Passion Beyond Content Creation: Diversifying into other creative fields, like music, can provide personal fulfillment and career growth.

• Critical Media Consumption: Engaging critically with popular media can lead to deeper discussions and varied perspectives among creators.

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Notable Quotes:

1. Craig Thompson (00:43): "Sleep up there because it's too wobbly. Say for example, I was insane."
2. Craig Thompson (52:20): "I want people to leave with a message of, you know, life can get real shitty. You gotta, you gotta go through the bad to really enjoy the good."
3. Craig Thompson (55:37): "Everything is fine. I would upload that same kind of content onto my new Craig Thompson channel. And most videos I upload on my Craig Thompson channel get trending...the other doesn't show up and recommended."
4. Craig Thompson (56:10): "I'm writing music right now and I'm trying to release my first single and EP next year."
5. Ian (49:06): "If somebody is only reaching out to you saying like, hey, you wanna grab drinks? You wanna, how are you doing? You know, as a person, that's good."

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This episode of Smosh Mouth offers a candid look into the multifaceted lives of content creators, balancing professional challenges with personal growth, all while fostering genuine connections within the creative community.

Transcript

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[Ian]

Ramble. You think you're like a pretty good friend with somebody that's that's also in the industry. But then you realize they only hit you up when it benefits them to.

[Craig Thompson]

Sleep up there because it's too wobbly. Say for example, I was insane. Oh my God. Kinda like when you're doing a squat, your back has to kinda like lock up in the right position to make sure you go down. My back didn't lock up, so my back kind of folded back in. And itself.

[Ian]

You did like a full score can.

[Craig Thompson]

Confirm that fucking hurt. What happens if the CEO of Keurig is watching this video right now?

[Ian]

He can go fuck himself.

[Craig Thompson]

There you go.

[Damien]

What if that's what he already does while watching our videos? Now what?

[Ian]

Well then keep it up.

[Craig Thompson]

You're doing great.

[Damien]

Not getting in any names, but a major video game company had some big ramifications for some people. What is the responsibility of games companies when it comes to stuff like that is free speech and play. Do they have to deal with the business side of things first? Happy birthday to me. I have messed mein trousers.

[Craig Thompson]

I own three nightclubs in Cologne, Germany.

[Damien]

I would like to order the shrimp, please. I would not like them cooked.

[Craig Thompson]

Can you also bring the naked man in? The bastard. Please. Wait. What is it?

[Damien]

I told you we were trying to cancel you.

[Craig Thompson]

I knew he was German.

[Damien]

Hey, I was born there, so we're good.

[Craig Thompson]

Oh, really?

[Damien]

Yeah. I give you a pass.

[Ian]

Hey everybody. Welcome to the Smosh cast. Today. Today. Oh, hi, I'm Ian. And today I'm joined by my good boy, Damien.

[Damien]

Hi, I'm a very good boy. Treat. Give me treats.

[Ian]

But also joined by another good boy, Craig, otherwise known as Minilad on the YouTube.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, yes, I'm good boy.

[Damien]

You're a good boy.

[Craig Thompson]

Is this really how we're starting the hell yeah. I'm all down for this.

[Ian]

I mean, we're. Whatever about it.

[Damien]

We are not the most, like, I don't know, formatted podcast. We just sort of do what we do and have fun with it.

[Craig Thompson]

I mean, I've done a lot of stuff with you guys over the years, so I know exactly how this goes back from what it called. You posted that a few years ago. Classics.

[Ian]

Yep. We're bringing it back.

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. That was so fun.

[Ian]

I feel like that. That actually wasn't that long ago, but it feels like forever ago.

[Craig Thompson]

It does. Well, I mean, you guys have also been through the wars recently.

[Damien]

Yeah. Like, think of all the life changes that's happened since then.

[Ian]

Wait, what are you talking about? Nothing's happened. Like, what happened? I guess that's the last time that you were. That you were with us then, right? You posted that? Damn.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, that was me. Me, Sonya, omg, Firefox, and Captain Sparkles.

[Ian]

That's right. That's right.

[Craig Thompson]

And then the next week, you guys got Chris Pratt and just shoved everything I did aside. It was like, I can't compete with his beauty. I can't.

[Ian]

You can't. He's just. And his crazy person.

[Damien]

That's true. No, you can try. No, I can get a roll on Parks.

[Craig Thompson]

I'm pretty sure it was Courtney's profile picture for a while, so every time I saw her profile, I'm just like, oh, I have to. Have to relive getting out. Shunned by Chris Pratt. Got it.

[Ian]

Y. Well, we all got out.

[Damien]

Yeah. I was like, is that a surprise to anybody? He's outshine anyone in whatever room he's in.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Wait, did I. Can I go up?

[Damien]

Are you bumping the table, son? Don't bump that table.

[Craig Thompson]

And you're short enough as it is. You want to go up?

[Damien]

Oh, welcome to the. Yeah, welcome to. Let's shit on Ian Cass. Like, hey, beard man.

[Craig Thompson]

Non bleached hair, ass.

[Ian]

Oh, yeah. We're talking about this because. Yeah. You guys both. You guys both color your hairs. And I think the reason is. I mean, we're truers.

[Craig Thompson]

Covering up from my insecurities.

[Damien]

We're video gamers. Oh, video games. Oh, yeah. No, that's fine.

[Ian]

Yeah, you stream right now and again. Now and again.

[Craig Thompson]

Just kind of like, off and on whenever I can.

[Ian]

Yeah, it's hard.

[Craig Thompson]

I haven't been home in a while.

[Ian]

Yeah. Cause you've been touring, right?

[Craig Thompson]

I went on tour in between leg three and leg four right now, so I am tired at all times. Damn.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Damien]

How long is that going for you? When do you get to rest?

[Craig Thompson]

So I just finished up Falls Church, Virginia. Then I did a show at Times Square. Wow. PlayStation 2. That was cool.

[Damien]

Hey, PlayStation.

[Craig Thompson]

Hey. Oh, yeah, you weren't sure?

[Ian]

Yeah, the PlayStation Theater is like in Times Square, right?

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. So we pretty much sold that out, which is nuts. And then Philly and then Pittsburgh, and then I come here for a few days to hang out with you beautiful guys. And then I'm doing la, San Diego and Arizona, but by the time this gets aired, I've already finished them.

[Ian]

Hey, congratulations. I hope it went well.

[Craig Thompson]

I hope so too. Future me.

[Ian]

And then another leg of the tour or are you taking a little respite?

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, so I, I structured it so there's four days on a week off.

[Damien]

Nice.

[Craig Thompson]

That's smart because, I mean, I have to go back and do the, you know, the fart jokes and things like that.

[Ian]

So.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, of course I, I got three weeks off after this, which I'm so excited for, man. All right, so it's because living in a coffin, you know, for most of your life. Well, most of my tour life has been difficult because as far as the tour buses goes, it's kind of like stacked three way. One, two, three. The top. Suppose you're not meant to sleep up there because it's too wobbly. Say, for example. Oh, it was insane. Oh, my God. We practiced. Oh, I was harmonizing against each other.

[Damien]

Top of the bus.

[Ian]

Yeah, we probably should have just. Just kept it at that. One thing we said.

[Damien]

Oh, no, we made him giggle.

[Craig Thompson]

I'm arousal. But so the top, the top's a bit too wobbly and the bottom's too loud because near the engine. So like in the middle is the sweet spot.

[Ian]

Oh, that's good to know.

[Craig Thompson]

But they're like. I mean, right, we're talking maybe three feet is the side of the bunk and there's no like barrier to stop you. So if all of a sudden the bus driver goes, skirt, you're gone. Dang, you're off the side.

[Ian]

Okay, so. Yeah, so you're talking about on the tour bus. You sleep on the bus from city to city, right?

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

Cause normally it's like eight hour drive in between different places.

[Ian]

Yeah. So they have these beds that are essentially, like, they're essentially. They're almost like shelves. Right?

[Craig Thompson]

They're shelves. Imagine kind of like like a hard hammock.

[Damien]

Like a, Like a morgue.

[Ian]

Yeah, no, yeah, like, Like a mausoleum.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, exactly. Like a Mona Lisa, you know?

[Damien]

Yeah. Like an ossuary.

[Ian]

Yes.

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

Like an ostrich.

[Ian]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I get, I think I, I Think I'm getting it now. Okay, so. So you. You have. You have gotten skirted out of bed skirt. The. The. The bus skirt, and then you rolled out of the bed onto the floor.

[Craig Thompson]

Onto the floor. It hurt. Jeez. Dang, dude. As far as wake up calls go, that sucked. That is the worst.

[Damien]

Because the engine noise don't sound so bad now, huh? Do the bottom bunk.

[Craig Thompson]

Well, because, you know when you fall asleep in a car and your head's on the side of the. On the side of the seat, you kind of hear the road and everything going on really loud. It's kind of the same thing because where your head's kind of on the side, your head's on the bus, basically. Right. So, you know, you get those, like, drag strips across the side of the roads, like. Oh, yeah. To wake you up. So we had a driver, his name was Forrest, on leg two, and for the entire eight hour trip, he drove on. He drove on top of the goddamn strip.

[Damien]

You can't do that.

[Craig Thompson]

God damn it. You're not watching this, because I'm pretty sure you don't know what the Internet.

[Ian]

Is, but God damn you, that sucks. Nobody told them. Nobody had the heart to say anything.

[Craig Thompson]

Put it this way. This guy only wore a wife beater. His name was Forrest, and he started every sentence with well. And you know exactly what kind of person that is.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

Yep.

[Damien]

Last time we had some. Somebody drive us from, like, an event, and I won't say which, the driving was actually very bad. Very bad and scary and terrifying. So we actually, like, we're texting each other in the back, and it's like, do we say something? And then eventually we're like, ian, you're the boss. Say something.

[Ian]

Ye.

[Craig Thompson]

I love how it gets shoved off onto you.

[Damien]

He's the boss.

[Ian]

Yeah. Yeah. So I. Yeah, that was. That was a little sketchy. And it was just because, well, we were in this long, kind of like. It wasn't a bus, it was a van. The drive, it's very windy. It's going from, like, essentially the desert, like high desert, back to Los Angeles. And, yeah, there's some wind and stuff. And this person, I don't think they had ever driven.

[Damien]

Never driven a vehicle like that before, ever.

[Craig Thompson]

Oh, no.

[Damien]

And they were going fast. And see.

[Craig Thompson]

Oh, God.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

Y'all are quite the duo.

[Ian]

We're like the Merrill twins, you know?

[Damien]

Oh, my gosh.

[Ian]

I'm Vanessa. I'm Veronica. I'm Ronnie.

[Damien]

I'm Elizagur Meryl. The fourth one that they don't talk.

[Craig Thompson]

About, hi, I'm Smosh games. Nice to meet you.

[Ian]

But, yeah, that was. We kept, like. Cause every time she would go to pass somebody, we were in the back, so we would feel more of the.

[Craig Thompson]

Sway along the way.

[Ian]

She would, like, jerk the wheel so the whole back of the van would whoosh, whoosh, whoosh.

[Damien]

I'm not a religious man, but I kept being like, whoever. Whatever is out there listening, can you just do me a solid? Like, I'm legit texting my mom that I love her. And it's. But see, that's how polite I am. Cause I'm like, I would rather, like, get all my affairs in order and die than just, like, say, like, excuse me, miss. You're driving horribly. Could you stop?

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, it's like, I could confront her, or I could write my will in the back of the van.

[Damien]

I'll just die.

[Craig Thompson]

It's fine.

[Ian]

Yeah, and also, like, I was willing to be like, hey, can you pull over and I'll just drive. But I also realized that it might come off as being like, you're a woman. You don't know how to drive. Let a man drive.

[Craig Thompson]

No, not even.

[Damien]

So you're also a car guy. And she had never driven this type of vehicle before. I think if it's like, you'd had equal experience and time and that kind of thing, and then you were like, move over, sweetheart. Then you're an ass.

[Ian]

So eventually, I was just like. Because we kept looking at each other. I was getting those nervous sweats every time the bus, like, the van, like, swayed back and forth. And I was just like, hey, can you slow down, please? Because it's. It's. You're. You're being very jerky, and it's scary. And then she was like, okay. And then.

[Damien]

And then she was not happy.

[Ian]

Yeah. She was not stoked about that. And then we stopped somewhere. Everyone got off, and I was like, hey, sorry for, like, calling you out in front of everyone. It was just like, you know, it's just the van trying not to die. And she was like. She was like, well, I didn't feel anything.

[Craig Thompson]

Well, yeah, you're holding a wheel. You don't really feel the G forces when you're holding on to the vehicle.

[Ian]

Yeah. So I was just like, okay, I'm glad I said something, because she had no clue.

[Damien]

Our point is, you should text Forrest and let him know your true feelings about how much you disliked his driving.

[Craig Thompson]

I should. I wrote a heavily worded letter, and.

[Ian]

He go, well, well.

[Craig Thompson]

And then whatever he says.

[Ian]

Yeah, so the, the tour, other than Forest Force driving has been good.

[Craig Thompson]

The tour's been amazing. Yeah, it's. I mean, I had no idea what was going to happen going into this because I know I'm not badmouthing YouTubers here, but a lot of YouTubers do a Q and A, which is fine. I mean, if your audience really likes Q and A. And that's awesome. For me, I wanted to try and put on some kind of a show. Sure. So I wanted to try and do some kind of a stand up, some kind of like fan interaction, gaming, stand up hybrid thing. Rad. I don't even know how to describe it. So I had no idea how the hell this is going to be perceived. And then coming out every night, it's kind of like a pantomime cry where everyone's like, yes. You know, I could be like, how's it going? I could take a shit on stage and I will be like, yeah, push it out. Like it's.

[Ian]

Can we do that? No, because you're, you're. Because you're. I'm going to go to your Friday show.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Can you take a shit on stage?

[Craig Thompson]

Do you want to come on stage and take a shit on stage?

[Damien]

Ian, do it.

[Craig Thompson]

Here, take my card. If you want to organize it, take my card and just let me know and we can try and get something organized for you.

[Ian]

Great. I'll take some Metamucil beforehand.

[Craig Thompson]

Perfect, perfect.

[Damien]

I was thinking of like, what's the one? Okay. Miralax. That's the same. Yeah, yeah, just take some Miralax.

[Ian]

Okay. Yeah. Are you, are you brand specific with.

[Damien]

Well, one time I had a very bad stomach issue and I needed to go, so I took Miralax.

[Ian]

Okay.

[Damien]

Up Miralax?

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. Sponsored? Actually, no, it's not.

[Ian]

They also have laxatives that come in little chocolates.

[Craig Thompson]

Oh, really?

[Damien]

Dangerous.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

I feel like someone got pranked with that in high school. It's like someone's chocolate and put laxative and it's like, oh my God, this is genius.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

And they just made their entire career around.

[Ian]

I mean, if you could make every medicine a chocolate, wouldn't you?

[Damien]

Yeah, because I mean, like near kids.

[Craig Thompson]

I mean, I don't smoke. A lot of people are just like, oh, I don't really like to smoke, but I do like this brownie.

[Ian]

Yeah. Dangerous.

[Craig Thompson]

Very dangerous.

[Ian]

You don't want to. I feel like everyone that's. That's had a weed brownie experience has had a bad weed brownie experience.

[Craig Thompson]

One thing I think is funny is there's news articles right now of people saying like, just watch your kids. Make sure you know what they're eating. Cause there could be edibles in there. I'm like, oh yeah, bruh. Like, how much money are you willing to spend on these kids?

[Damien]

Yeah, you're not even gonna see that happen. You're like, I bet in about an hour it's gonna kick in. It's gonna kick in.

[Craig Thompson]

The little eight year old Jimmy dressed a dinosaur. He's gonna be feeling things. I'm like, no, I'm not gonna waste money on that.

[Ian]

I'm so glad that I spent $2,000 on this epic Halloween prank where I drugged children so that you don't get.

[Craig Thompson]

To see the outcome.

[Damien]

You just wait for the cops to show up. You' the waiting game.

[Craig Thompson]

I bet those kids are smiling or.

[Ian]

The guy like, he, he gives them the brownies, but he's like, but you're gonna need to wait here for about an hour. You need to eat the candy right now.

[Craig Thompson]

The mom's there. Like, it's like, why can't I go and just handcuffs the kid to the fence? Like, no, I must see this.

[Ian]

We watch. We watch him trip. We must.

[Craig Thompson]

Yoda watch him trip, we must.

[Ian]

Yeah. I don't know why I worded it that way.

[Craig Thompson]

I don't know either. But it was great.

[Damien]

I think it was just. There was the character that you were making. Whoever is crazy enough to do that also speaks.

[Ian]

Watch him trip, we must.

[Damien]

Well, there you go. Now it's just straight up.

[Craig Thompson]

To be fair, the person who made Jar Jar Binks was obviously clearly high.

[Ian]

On something that was George Lucas high on money.

[Damien]

High on his sweet, sweet money.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. Well, I mean, it was. Was Georgia, episode one.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. George had no money.

[Ian]

This is the thing. Like, like George Lucas, like, yeah, he, he had a lot of. He had a lot of say in the first three Star wars movies, Episode four, five and six, but the prequels, he had like complete control over. Oh, like, like he didn't. Like, like, basically. He obviously proved that, like, you know, Star wars is a great thing and basically. But I think Fox had a lot of control over the. Not the prequels, but 4, 5 and 6. They didn't. So he also had control over 4, 4, 5 and 6. Oh, so they're all of a sudden.

[Craig Thompson]

They'Re just so much better.

[Ian]

Yeah. And then he just paid for the. He had to get some money, so he had to make some compromises, but.

[Craig Thompson]

Story wise, it's all him interesting.

[Ian]

And then he went batshit crazy because he had all the money when he came back in 99 and paid for it all himself.

[Craig Thompson]

He had so much money.

[Ian]

Paid for it all himself.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. That's insane.

[Ian]

See, I don't. Do whatever you want, then. Yeah. Like the ball dumbass characters. Like, it's all your money. Do whatever you want, George Lucas.

[Craig Thompson]

I do want to say I am going to shit talk one streamer right now.

[Damien]

Whoa.

[Ian]

Oh, whoa.

[Craig Thompson]

I know.

[Damien]

That's the tea, sister.

[Craig Thompson]

I love you, Jack Courage. J.D. but he thinks Transformers is better than Star Wars.

[Ian]

Oh, that's. Which is a really bad opinion. Are we talking, like, the Animated. The old, old Animated.

[Craig Thompson]

No, I like Dark side of the Movie. I'm pretty sure. Like the Shia LaBeouf Megan Fox ones.

[Ian]

That's a big old. Yikes, my boy.

[Damien]

He's spicy. Oof.

[Craig Thompson]

The one is a bit interesting, though, is he thinks that Inception is better than Interstellar.

[Damien]

I never saw Interstellar, so I don't know.

[Craig Thompson]

You haven't seen Interstellar?

[Damien]

I don't like movies.

[Ian]

I would. Okay. I. I would side. I would side on. Enter in on Inception being better than Interstellar.

[Craig Thompson]

I like both. I think. I think they're both great. I think the reason I like both are fantastic. The Star wars one blows my mind. The. The Transformers. But the one thing I like about Interstellar is the fact that they played with the idea of fabrics of time.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

Into physical fabric. I'm like, oh, you guys are smart.

[Ian]

Yeah. The whole, like, library thing was weird.

[Craig Thompson]

Like, I loved it. Absolutely loved it.

[Ian]

But I did, like. I did like the idea of, like. Yeah. The fact that since he spent, like, five seconds or whatever near the black hole, that was like 50 years or whatever.

[Craig Thompson]

Right.

[Ian]

That was a cool. That's kind of concept.

[Damien]

I didn't say I wasn't going to see it.

[Ian]

Oh, I didn't hear you say that.

[Damien]

You know, I haven't seen it.

[Ian]

You haven't seen Interstellar?

[Damien]

It's okay. No spoiler. Look, if a movie's been out for, like, three, four, or five years and you haven't seen it, you can't be.

[Craig Thompson]

Like, okay, here's a question. What is the threshold? Like, after a certain amount of time, can you say, okay, now we're good? Because for Avengers Endgame, the directors literally came out and went, all right, y'all are good now. But, like, do you think it should be, like, a specific time, like six months?

[Ian]

I think it depends on the cultural relevance of. Of the thing. So if it's Game of Thrones and it's a weekly thing. If you. If you haven't seen it in the first three days, you can't get mad at somebody for talking about it because you got to get on the ball with something like Endgame. Everyone was assumed to have, like, saw it on opening week, right? I didn't. And I still somehow managed to not have a lot spoiled for me. I saw it maybe like, three weeks in, and I was.

[Craig Thompson]

I did the same thing, and I streamed. I just think called a meme stream on my. On my YouTube and I screwed.

[Ian]

I know.

[Craig Thompson]

I started the stream. Everyone was going. I was like, hey, guys, how's it going? So and so dies. I'm like, God, yep, damn it, I'm seeing it tonight. I waited this long.

[Damien]

I had to do the same thing for two weeks. I would have, like, filters on my stream and, like, all mods coming out and just being like, you know, hey, just. I'm gonna have it on, like, a one minute delay for typing and just find what you can and root it out. And I think it's a matter of also just being polite. Like, is there a rule for, like, cultural relevance and when you can say it? Not really. But I think even if it's, you know, everybody has different circumstances. Some people have kids and they can't go out to the movie theater for three and a half hours to go see a film. So it's nice to just be like, oh, I want to talk about endgame. Has everybody here seen it? And then if they say, no, I haven't, I'll go take a crab or something. Like, it's okay for them to leave. You don't have to stop all conversation, but still give a heads up.

[Craig Thompson]

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[Ian]

Yeah, yeah, I think.

[Craig Thompson]

Mm.

[Damien]

What do you think?

[Ian]

That's what I was thinking too, but Iron man dies.

[Craig Thompson]

Oh, yeah. Well, there it is. I tried by saying something. Something. It's been out for, like, a year.

[Ian]

And even now feels like it's been.

[Damien]

What if Someone has kids and hasn't been able to see a movie this year.

[Ian]

Good. Shouldn't have had a kid.

[Craig Thompson]

Fuck. Fuck him. Wait, how long has Endgame been out for?

[Ian]

I mean, it's been out since like eight months. It's been out since Game of Thrones was out.

[Craig Thompson]

Oh, good old. Are we all Game of Thrones fans here?

[Damien]

Yeah, when it was good. I like the books. I like all the books.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah.

[Damien]

After season five, it's just like you can tell when you ran out of material. Oh, God, no. The sand snake fight, that's when I knew it went downhill and I wanted to die.

[Ian]

Wanted to die. The Viper in the mountain, that fight.

[Damien]

No, that was great because they still had book material. The sand snakes in the books have been. And that's Oberyn Martell's daughters. The viper's Daughters is like bastard daughters. It had been built up in the books. Like they' amazing warriors and no warriors stood against them. And they gotta keep emerging in town. And then they just stand there like, I'm gonna do half dancing, half whip movement as this looks like a 1990s Power Rangers style fight. And I was like, no, no. I just knew what the next few seasons were gonna be like.

[Craig Thompson]

Yep.

[Damien]

Stone Men.

[Ian]

I mean, I think. Yeah. Yeah. The stuff with the dragons really bummed me out.

[Craig Thompson]

Oh. As far as the way it got taken out, I mean.

[Ian]

Yeah. Like both of them.

[Craig Thompson]

So the one thing that annoys me is literally like five seconds beforehand, like, oh, we need to watch out for the ships coming in. Yeah, we need to watch out for the Greyjoys. And it's like there's a pan out shot where the dragon is here above the mountains and then just behind the mountains. The dragon was already taller than the Greyjoy fleet was already there. I'm sitting there going, it's a dragon. Come on.

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

The first one gets taken out with one good shot. The second one swoops in around and fuckadoodle do. And then I'll miss everything.

[Ian]

That's what I was thinking about. But also, like, I did kind of. I thought it was kind of funny where. It wasn't funny. It was terrible to watch. But, you know, the first arrow hits the dragon. I'm like. I'm like, okay, hit the wing. It was like, yeah, that could probably. And then the arrow goes through his throat and I'm like, jesus Christ. It was just like blood. Just a shower of blood going out of its mouth. I was like, oh, my God.

[Craig Thompson]

The one thing I'm at Game of Thrones season 8 that I will say is it looked incredible. Sure looked incredible. But then again, it kind of same thing goes with video games. Like games can look amazing, but the story can be shit and kind of. Right.

[Damien]

You can make Goose game, which is like an isometric view. And I love good games. Oh, what's your favorite. What's your favorite game of the year, by the way? Randomly, Because I'm loving Goose game.

[Craig Thompson]

Goose game. Sekiro.

[Ian]

Sekiro.

[Craig Thompson]

Yay.

[Damien]

You're a front software guy.

[Craig Thompson]

Mm. I finished the game twice.

[Ian]

Got some try hards over here.

[Craig Thompson]

I never. I never play a game on screen because I'm always like guilt myself. Like, I could be streaming this. I could be recording this. But this one, I. She's like, I need to give this my time of day.

[Damien]

I always have two games going at any given time. My personal file and the stream file.

[Craig Thompson]

Oh, smart. Okay. I. So without getting too much into it, you know the part where it kind of like you kill the dad or you can kill the dad if you really want to. So you can. I saved the part just before that so I can go back.

[Damien]

That's where my save is. That's where my save is.

[Craig Thompson]

Give me that.

[Damien]

Do we just become best friends?

[Ian]

Yep.

[Damien]

Ian, look at us. We're best friends.

[Craig Thompson]

Best friends.

[Ian]

I'm a little jelly.

[Craig Thompson]

We'll work on the synchronicity thing. Yes. Best friendship. We're getting there.

[Ian]

I thought he said best French.

[Damien]

We're the best Frenchman. An Irishman and a German fella make the best Frenchman.

[Ian]

Hey, kind of meet. Kind of meet in the middle, right?

[Damien]

Yeah. Are you by the way playing code vein at all?

[Craig Thompson]

No, I haven't played really anything.

[Damien]

It's a. Oh, sorry. It's a bandai Namco release that is like they literally are doing their best to be like, hey, we like bloodborne and Dark Souls. What if we made exactly that? And so it's just like a nice little snack to like tie over until the next from game. But it's anime Dark Souls.

[Craig Thompson]

Basically. There's as an article released today that I saw before coming in here that the creators of Simpsons Hit and Run were like, yeah, we should remaster it soon. Please, please, please, please.

[Damien]

Love it.

[Ian]

Oh, I never played it, but I heard it kind of like a cult following.

[Damien]

Very much.

[Ian]

It did.

[Craig Thompson]

I loved.

[Ian]

It was like a crazy taxi version of like the Simpsons.

[Craig Thompson]

Literally. Yeah. Imagine like GTA Simpsons, but there was no death or blood or.

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Ian]

You big Simpsons fan?

[Craig Thompson]

Used to be. I feel like everyone kind of went through a Simpsons.

[Damien]

We Just were talking about this earlier today.

[Craig Thompson]

Everyone there are Simpsons phase. Everyone goes out of said Simpsons phase.

[Ian]

And it's still going.

[Craig Thompson]

And it's still going. I mean. And then more car. Yeah. So supposedly, big mouth got nominated for an Emmy. Supposedly Simpsons beat big mouth to an Emmy. I'm like, simpsons are still winning awards.

[Damien]

Dang.

[Ian]

I mean, somebody's out. Somebody out there is watching it. I don't know who.

[Damien]

Yeah, that's my question. Because, like, I used to watch it back in, like, no joke. In preschool, they would ask, what's your favorite show like to interview students? And I was like, oh, the Simpsons. They're like, sweetie, I don't think your parents are letting you watch the Simpsons. And I'm like, I did. When my mom gets here, we'll talk about it. But, like, I don't watch the Simpsons nowadays. And so I'm just like, if not for me, who's it for?

[Craig Thompson]

Maybe it's just people who are that secluded from society that it's the only thing left on their borderline color tv. Like a little boss. Like a new Simpsons. I love this show. Even though three, four.

[Damien]

Perspective.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Ian]

I don't. I don't know. I feel like the last time I saw the Simpsons was the Simpsons movie, which was good.

[Craig Thompson]

It was a good film.

[Ian]

Yeah, that was good.

[Craig Thompson]

Remember, Homer has, like, epiphanies and things like that.

[Ian]

All I remember from that is spider pig. And they're like, when he moves to Alaska. And they're like, welcome to Alaska. Here's some money. Because that's what happens when you move to Alaska. They just give you money.

[Damien]

Is there a stipend for moving there?

[Ian]

I think so. For just living there. Right.

[Damien]

I didn't know that.

[Ian]

We got to get our sound guy Greg in here.

[Damien]

Yeah. Or Jackie. We got two Alaskans here.

[Ian]

Yeah, we got two Alaskans.

[Damien]

Jackie and I talked about the Iditarod race the other day. Yeah, it's a dog sled race in Alaska. But I, like, randomly brought it up. And I started, like, I didn't hear a reaction when I said the Iditarod. And I was like, oh, sorry. It's this dog racing thing. Wait a minute. You're in Alaska? And she's like, yeah, I know all about it. My uncle. My great uncle or something like that was in it.

[Craig Thompson]

And I was like, God's going to annoy me. There's a Disney film about a balto ball.

[Damien]

Yeah, but it's not Disney.

[Craig Thompson]

Oh, is it as a Pixar?

[Ian]

You're thinking of Snow Dogs.

[Craig Thompson]

Oh, okay.

[Ian]

With Koopa Gooding Jr. Yeah, that was a good film.

[Craig Thompson]

Was it? When it first came out? Was a great film because standards were a lot lower when you're a lot younger.

[Ian]

True.

[Craig Thompson]

Now all of a sudden when you actually have some kind of a cognitive mind, I'm like, well, darling, I don't think. Yeah, so real quick. In Alaska they pay their citizens $2,000.

[Ian]

A year just to live there.

[Damien]

Dude, that's easy money.

[Craig Thompson]

Yearly stipend of $2,000.

[Ian]

I think that's because of the, the oil money or they just really need.

[Craig Thompson]

People in the middle of nowhere.

[Ian]

What's the, what's the ratio of men to women in Alaska? I gotta reach around the mic.

[Craig Thompson]

Is it cuz everyone who links lives in Anchorage is like a fisherman or something or is this like an actual like thing?

[Ian]

It's not that crazy. I thought it was a lot crazier, but it's a 108.5 men to a hundred women. Yeah, but I thought it was a lot more men than women. But maybe, maybe that's only in like the oil towns.

[Craig Thompson]

Probably. That makes sense.

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

Because I mean it's America, but it's also not surrounded by anything to do with America in between. Imagine being sandwiched between Canada and Russia. Like two very different countries.

[Ian]

Oh really? What's different about them?

[Craig Thompson]

Let's talk about.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Damien]

Welcome to PoliticsCast.

[Ian]

Yeah, yeah, I forget, I forget why, why we put this down on here, but the sort of like what's the responsibility of video games as far as a political situation?

[Damien]

Oh, that question came from, you know, not getting in any names. But a major video game company had some big ramifications for some people based on their political stance. So like what is the responsibility of games companies when it comes to stuff like that? Is free speech and play. Do they have to deal with the business side of things first?

[Craig Thompson]

Like it's, it's kind of a difficult one because as a company you want to, you want to make sure that your security is tight. You want to make sure that you're, you're also, your morals are in play. You want to make sure that everyone's happy. But in situations like that it's very, very difficult. Yeah, it's very difficult.

[Ian]

I guess you gotta, then I guess you gotta ask do, do corporations even consider moral responsibility? Or is it just about the, the bottom line or their shareholders?

[Craig Thompson]

But at the same time, the decision they came out with to ban said.

[Ian]

Player, you know, and, and casters.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. And the cast. Exactly. So you're saying about. We're gonna make decision based on our, our money is basically what you're saying. And based on our financial. Well, they're going to lose a lot of money because there's been a trend about people who are closing down their big MMO subscriptions. If we're trying to avoid.

[Damien]

I think probably. Yeah, I mean, a good idea.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. I'm trying my best here.

[Damien]

No, you're doing great.

[Ian]

It's, it's not, it's not a good time. Let's just move on from this one. That's how you know we're talking about Blizzard, though.

[Craig Thompson]

God damn it.

[Damien]

Actually, no, actually cut it out. Actually cut it out.

[Ian]

I mean, everyone knows what we're. What we're. Who we're talking about.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah.

[Damien]

But no one could piece that together. We did such a good job.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Damien]

Everything was completely under the table and.

[Craig Thompson]

No one knew the Mason's, the numbers Mason. What do they mean, the Mason's number?

[Damien]

Declaration of Independence.

[Ian]

So you, you, you moved. So you were. So you started, you got it, you started your, your sort of YouTube life in your hometown in Northern Ireland. Yeah, Northern Ireland. And then a couple years ago you moved to LA.

[Craig Thompson]

20, 20, 2015. I moved here for six months because that's how long my visa was for. And then I went back and then July 16, when I've been out here full time.

[Ian]

Yeah, and then you came here and then you're like, LA is not for me. And then now you're, now you're up north in the Pacific Northwest.

[Craig Thompson]

Yes, I am.

[Damien]

Fancy.

[Ian]

So LA just, just didn't do it for you.

[Craig Thompson]

I think of it as I love la, but I'm a big believer in making sure that you're okay as far as like self care. And I love la, but as you know, we, we guys, we live here. There's a lot of people that are just dicks. Yeah. Absolute scumbags. You guys, you guys are all right. But I mean there's a lot of people out there where it's just so fake and so evident. So I decided to move up there just because it's a lot closer. To what? North. You know, Northern Ireland. Temperament. It's an hour and a half flight away from la.

[Ian]

Rainy.

[Craig Thompson]

It's. Well, Seattle's rainy. Portland is kind of like, it's in between desert and rain. So it's kind of like in the middle or it doesn't rain too much. Oh, it's kind of like, it's just mountainous area. Perfectly in the middle. But I went up there Just to kind of like make sure that whenever I come to la, I work hard and whenever I go back home and work on my videos and whatnot, I have that separation between work and play.

[Damien]

That's awesome.

[Craig Thompson]

Just so I know that I can, you know, I can work on myself as well as work on my brand.

[Damien]

Is it a lot of work having to keep Portland weird?

[Craig Thompson]

Well, thankfully I don't live inside Portland, but I can attest Portland's pretty weird.

[Ian]

Okay, isn't that Austin's slogan? Austin weird? Oh, it's both. Oh, come on.

[Craig Thompson]

Weird.

[Ian]

Two cities sharing the same slogan.

[Damien]

Oh, God, I thought Austin's was. When you're here, you're family.

[Ian]

Oh, no.

[Craig Thompson]

And then LA is just like fuck you or don't. But I think with Portland it's not even weird. It's just very hipster y. It's imagine like LA history without the people.

[Damien]

So Los Feliz the city?

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, yeah, pretty much.

[Ian]

Yeah. I love Portland. I think it's great. But it's also cause I'm a hipster.

[Damien]

You are, aren't you?

[Ian]

The food scenes, great.

[Craig Thompson]

The coffee's good. I'm a big. I'm a big coffee guy.

[Ian]

Yeah, coffee's. Coffee's great. Speaking of which, I got you. Oh, ding. You know what? Today segue today we just officially launched.

[Damien]

I had no idea what the actual release day was. That's awesome.

[Ian]

Yeah. So you can actually officially get this right now. We had a pre order, like a.

[Craig Thompson]

Couple days for those who aren't watching it. What are you holding right now?

[Ian]

I'm holding the my favorite coffee mug. It's actually filled with water right now. But in front of me right here is the cold brew that we're also selling. The my favorite coffee cold brew. It's some good stuff, man.

[Craig Thompson]

So tell me, Ian, where can you get it?

[Ian]

Well.

[Damien]

Well, dude, we like it. You can come back anyway, I'm the.

[Craig Thompson]

Guest here and I'm like plug, plug, plug.

[Ian]

You can get it@my favoritecoffee.com. you can get. There's two different blends of coffee. You can get it either in whole bean or ground.

[Craig Thompson]

Wow.

[Ian]

You can get the cold bre. There's also a subscription system that I keep forgetting to mention.

[Craig Thompson]

Please tell me more.

[Ian]

I will. If you subscribe, you get 50% off your first bag and 25% off any other bag that is after that first bag.

[Damien]

Sounds like people would be losing money if they didn't do that, Ian.

[Ian]

Wow, that's such a great deal. You're so right. So if. Yeah, basically you're an idiot if you don't buy this guy.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, that's a good way to promo it.

[Ian]

No, you're not an idiot if you don't buy this coffee. You're an idiot if you drink Keurig instead of this coffee.

[Damien]

What happens? I'm drunk to sell cakes.

[Ian]

We're not selling cake cups.

[Craig Thompson]

What happens if the CEO of Keurig is watching this video right now?

[Ian]

He can go fuck himself.

[Craig Thompson]

There you go.

[Damien]

What if that's what he already does while watching our videos? Now what?

[Ian]

Well, then keep it up.

[Craig Thompson]

You're doing great.

[Ian]

Yeah, it's. This is. This is kind of the battle lines are drawn. My war against Keurig has begun. We will reign victorious.

[Craig Thompson]

Well, thank God my favorite coffee is my favorite coffee.

[Ian]

Thank you.

[Craig Thompson]

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[Ian]

But yeah, I love. I love Portland. I think it's. I think it's such a cool little city. I mean, the homeless situation is. Is sad.

[Craig Thompson]

But then again, I feel like if you live in any major city across the world, you're gonna get homeless people.

[Damien]

It's just Tokyo.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

Well. Well, I feel like just Japan in general. It's just a whole different breed of just bliss. Yeah. Yeah, I love that. I've never been there. Love that place.

[Damien]

I'm going.

[Craig Thompson]

I know.

[Damien]

I've got some suitcase room if you just want to hop on in. Oh, yeah, I do.

[Craig Thompson]

It's annoying because I'm a massive rugby guy and the rugby World cup is.

[Ian]

Oh, and they won. And they. They beat. Was it Ireland?

[Craig Thompson]

I won't talk about that, but. Oh, cool. Next segment. Awesome.

[Ian]

I. I felt so happy for him. I don't follow rugby, but it's always fun seeing like underd happy for them too.

[Craig Thompson]

I'm like, yay. But at the same time, I'm like, yeah, but my dad's English, so I also have to support England. So whenever England play Ireland, I'm just like, yay. Aw.

[Ian]

Yay. Yeah. Are Ireland and England tough rivals?

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. So Ireland's.

[Ian]

Well, it's almost like there was some kind of, like, history between the two.

[Craig Thompson]

Ireland's two in the world, England's three in the world.

[Ian]

Oh, where's New Zealand at number one?

[Craig Thompson]

Ireland was number one till they got beat by Japan.

[Ian]

Oopsie daisy.

[Damien]

Big old basket of whoopsie daisy.

[Ian]

What's your favorite thing about rugby? Because I don't know anything about it.

[Craig Thompson]

No, it's fair. I just. I love that because I was able to get my aggression out in something that you actually played it. Yeah. So. So before YouTube, I actually went pretty far in rugby.

[Damien]

Really?

[Craig Thompson]

That's awesome. I nearly got selected for my country in rugby, and then I had a really bad back injury.

[Ian]

Oh, wow.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. So in rugby, there's a thing called a scrum, which is the top.

[Ian]

That's the only word that I know. Right.

[Craig Thompson]

Probably just from knowing me over the years.

[Ian]

Yeah. You're always like, oh, this is such a scrum.

[Damien]

Just wait for someone to ask was that.

[Craig Thompson]

This is such a scrum.

[Ian]

That's what I've heard you just offhandedly mention.

[Damien]

Only when one person throws a. My favorite coffee on the table and we're all grabbing for it, then it's.

[Ian]

The best coffee you could find.

[Craig Thompson]

That was beautiful.

[Ian]

Sorry. So you're saying. You're saying, though.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. So the scrum is with the top eight biggest players gonna come together and, like, imagine kind of like a reverse tug of war where they're pushing against each other. Mm. I'm the guy right in the middle. So at the training session where I went to after I got selected, my back. Kinda like when you're doing a squat, your back has to kind of, like, lock up in the right position to make sure you go down. My back didn't lock up and my back, for those who don't know, I'll explain in a bit. My back just kind of went and went and just folded. So my back kind of folded back in itself. For those who are listening on audio, scorped. Yeah, pretty much.

[Ian]

He did like a full score.

[Damien]

Did a waning crescent moon.

[Craig Thompson]

Yep. That can confirm that fucking hurt. So then, ever since then, Now I'm a YouTuber, so.

[Ian]

And who would have thought that being the guy in the middle of a scrum would have that happen to him with. With eight strong large men pressing against you?

[Craig Thompson]

Do you know what it is? I didn't have my Favorite coffee to really push through.

[Ian]

You know, if you did, you would have had the energy to just push through.

[Craig Thompson]

I would be playing for my country right now.

[Damien]

Question, though. What's it like in countries with, like, rugby culture here in America, when we have football, like, players get injured all the time, but they're often like, well off before that happens, you know. But they do have health issues their whole life. What's that kind of culture like in Ireland? Like, it's players just toast after they play.

[Craig Thompson]

No, so it's players who are really, really good. Like, you know, they'll actually let them go through and recuperate and come back at. I feel like with American football and NFL, like, when someone gets injured, like, well, that's it, you're done. You make your money, you can dip.

[Ian]

I've also heard that because. Because football players wear so much padding and so much gear, they hit each other way harder.

[Damien]

Oh, because of the weight, like the torque.

[Ian]

Because. Because rugby, there's no, there's no protective gear, right?

[Craig Thompson]

It's yes and no. I think that with rugby, they still hit each other with everything they have, but it's. It's kind of more controlled because otherwise you're gonna Yourself. With American football, because they're wearing helmets and pads, you can. You can still hit each other with the same velocity, but you're also not really caring about you or you're not really caring about where you hit them. Interesting. So you're going in with a big old headbutt in American football wall. So if you do that in rugby, you're going to die.

[Ian]

And when this. Does the scrum start with everyone, like in that circle or.

[Craig Thompson]

No. So imagine like a scrum is what happens when basically a penalty happens.

[Ian]

Okay.

[Craig Thompson]

So in rugby, you can't pass the ball forward, or if you drop it forward, that happens.

[Ian]

But is there ever a moment, like in American football, everyone lines up and then runs at each other and just collides. Does that happen in rugby or at.

[Craig Thompson]

The start, kind of like after they've scored, like, as you guys call a touchdown, I call it a try. That kind of thing happens where they kind of kick off the start and then they kind of run towards each other then.

[Ian]

Okay.

[Craig Thompson]

That's probably the only case I can think of.

[Ian]

Okay. Because I'm thinking, like, that's like, of course you're gonna get injured. Like the. Like, if you're. If you're. What is that? Linebacker. Ryan, you're the sports guy. Linebacker. If you're a linebacker, your job is to Literally stand in a line facing another guy, like, what, 5ft apart, 5ft away from, 10ft away from them, and they're like, go. And you just run as hard as you can at this person while they run as hard as they can. And you just. You guys just collide.

[Craig Thompson]

So what's your job?

[Damien]

Extreme hugging.

[Craig Thompson]

The way it works in American football is like you guys run to each other and there's a pause and you do it again. With rugby, it's the ball gets recycled. So when you go down, you get the ball back and then you run it up again. So imagine like the line, but it's all 15 players. Whoa, 13. They're all in line against each other, and then they run against each other, and then the ball, ball hits the ground, then they reset. So in rugby, there's a thing called pillars. So whenever you go down, you have to stand by their back foot and there's one guy either side, and everybody else in the team has to be behind the pillars, I guess you could say. And then the other team that has the ball, they have to be behind the guy who's throwing the ball because you have to pass backwards. So then it's just crash into each other, recycle, go back, crash into each other, go back. It's just this for 80 minutes.

[Ian]

Damn, boy.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, it's. It. It's a tough one.

[Ian]

Wow. So you were on your way to being, like a national player.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Or you were. You were on the team already or you were.

[Craig Thompson]

I was on my way. I was, I was really. I was nearly getting there and then that happened. I was like, well, what do we learn?

[Damien]

Well, I mean, seems pretty. Damn.

[Ian]

Yeah, it's. It kind of worked out.

[Craig Thompson]

And now I live in the west coast of America, so, I mean, it's. So, it's cool, the fact that, like, you know, whenever that happened, I'm like, well, there it is. I'm gonna go work in Walmart for the rest of my life. And then all of a sudden, this kind of came around.

[Ian]

Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, that's good. I'm glad you're happy, man. I'm glad you're happy. Okay, so this is. This is a weird question. I don't. We went out for karaoke when we were in New York.

[Craig Thompson]

Yes. Yes.

[Ian]

And you sang a country song, Alan.

[Craig Thompson]

Jackson, it's 5:00 somewhere.

[Ian]

Mmm. And you said. And I don't know if you were. If you were joking, but you said, everyone in Northern Ireland knows country music.

[Craig Thompson]

I mean, Northern Ireland's A very rural.

[Ian]

Country, but they all listen to country western music.

[Damien]

American country.

[Craig Thompson]

Well, it's the same thing as, like, if you go to farm town, farm towns in America, chances are there's gonna be someone who listens to country music, right?

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

It's kind of the same thing in Northern Ireland. But imagine an entire country where everyone is kind of. And also, there's also a massive drinking culture in Northern Ireland, so a lot of really famous country songs.

[Ian]

Drinking songs.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, it's good drinking songs. Exactly. So whenever you're having a barbecue or something like that, you're gonna put on like an Alan Jackson, Garth Brooks or Toby Keith or something like that.

[Ian]

See, that just blows my mind because I always just thought country western was such a. Like, such a. Just a solely American thing. Like nobody else in the world gave.

[Craig Thompson]

A crap about it. There's like, there's Irish countries.

[Damien]

That's what I was gonna ask, like, is there?

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, I mean, you got. You got Japanese country music, you got, you know, everywhere. There's kind of like everywhere where there is rural parts, AKA pretty much everywhere, there's gonna be their variation of country music. So American country music is very like tractors and beer and blue jeans. Whilst in. In Ireland, they talk more about places like the hills of Donegal or places like that, you know?

[Damien]

I like that.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah.

[Damien]

I used to listen to Irish music all the time, like Irish folk music, while I did leather crafting.

[Craig Thompson]

Nice.

[Damien]

Skyrim npc. Out of time.

[Craig Thompson]

Immerse myself.

[Damien]

Yeah, exactly.

[Craig Thompson]

That's cool.

[Ian]

That actually makes a lot of sense. I think I would do that too.

[Damien]

It was a lot of fun.

[Ian]

Would you. Would you close your eyes and imagine you're back on the show?

[Damien]

Wake up with one less finger. Yeah. Oh, crap. I definitely should have watched while I was chiseling that leather apart.

[Craig Thompson]

When you wake up and you actually do before you get on the game, you're like, what the.

[Damien]

Light armor means Light on your feet. Smart man. You're like, oh, God, I've become them.

[Craig Thompson]

I can't wait for Elder Scrolls. Six it is six, right?

[Ian]

Yeah, it is.

[Craig Thompson]

Sorry I doubted myself there for a second.

[Ian]

I don't know, man. Bethesda. I just don't know anymore.

[Damien]

What do you mean?

[Craig Thompson]

With Bethesda, it's. They make broken games, but they make it broken enough so it works, but it doesn't. For example, Skyrim horses.

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

Skyrim horses are the most buggy pieces of shit in video games, but they're like, you know what? We realize it's a bug. We gonna leave it in there because it's kind of funny.

[Damien]

Maybe it's funny to watch a horse take a vertical.

[Ian]

I did that. They did that in the Witcher too, probably. Which are like CD Projekt Red like made it. They're like. They just kind of acknowledged that the. The horse was kind of bugged.

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

That was very disappointing though, is I also tried to. In when I played red dead redemption 2, I just tried to take it up a vertic vertical plane.

[Damien]

Yeah, you were spoiled from Skyrim and.

[Ian]

Just smack right into the wall.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. And they have animations for horses falling over. I'm like, boo. Let me just go directly vertical.

[Damien]

We've all become sort of spoiled now where it's like that game wasn't a one to one direct recreation of my reality. And it's like it's not always going to be perfect. Like, let's have fun. Is it fun? Are you having fun? Yes.

[Ian]

Good.

[Damien]

Okay. Good game.

[Ian]

Yeah. That definitely shocked me the first time I played Red Dead Redemption and I kind of nudged up against somebody else on a horse and I fell off the horse. I was like, whoa. And then that guy started shooting me. I was like, it was a complete accident, bro.

[Craig Thompson]

Dude, be chill.

[Damien]

Do. Yeah, quit shooting me, dog.

[Craig Thompson]

You have a funny feeling that wasn't the terminology they used as a voice.

[Damien]

Actor in red Dead Redemption 2. It is exactly.

[Ian]

It was. Yeah. It was actually the part. It was actually the part of the game. It was the part of the game where you actually play as a dog. So it was actually accurate.

[Craig Thompson]

Oh, so you actually just bark?

[Damien]

Yeah. God, no. It's like. It's like the Lion King level in Kingdom Hearts where you're all of a sudden a lion, but you still have human speech and language.

[Craig Thompson]

Okay.

[Damien]

It was just that I just am a fever dream you're having one night and I'm just like, hey, I'm a dog. How's it going? Like, ah, shit. Shouldn't have eaten all those Arthur Morgan beans.

[Craig Thompson]

There it is. There it is.

[Ian]

Did you ever pet your. I guess like when you get like a higher bonding with your horse. Arthur. Arthur gets a lot more sexual with like whenever you go calm your horse.

[Damien]

Hey, girl.

[Ian]

He's like. He's like, that's a good girl.

[Craig Thompson]

That's a good girl. No. Oh, yeah.

[Ian]

Good girl. It does get like more oddly sexual. Like, did you play much Red Dead?

[Craig Thompson]

No, I didn't.

[Ian]

I did. And it gets. It gets a little uncomfortable because like sometimes the horse freaks out because there's a snake or something. So you have to like, whoa, girl.

[Damien]

How'd you get close to your horse? Because mine just kept dying constantly.

[Ian]

Oh, I took good care of my horse. Nobody. And dude, that was that spoiler. No, I know. I won't. I won't spoil it. Okay. Yep. I'm gonna move on.

[Craig Thompson]

And segue.

[Ian]

What was your. What was your favorite game in 2019?

[Damien]

Yeah, what's your favorite kind of horse? I mean, you already said. Yeah.

[Ian]

What's your favorite game of all time?

[Craig Thompson]

Can I do a two parter in this one?

[Damien]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Craig Thompson]

Favorite game is the original Pokemons on Game Boy. Color?

[Damien]

Blue version or red version? 3, 2, 1.

[Craig Thompson]

Blue.

[Damien]

I don't know.

[Ian]

Yellow.

[Craig Thompson]

It doesn't ha. My brother had yellow. Fuck him. But favorite gaming series is BioShock. BioShock 1's fantastic. BioShock 2 is as good. Just a little bit short. BioShock Infinite was a little.

[Ian]

It was.

[Craig Thompson]

It was all right. I forced. I kind of forced out to play it because I loved the games.

[Ian]

They promised a lot. Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

And they delayed it year after year, and then they end up where it tied everything together. I'm like, you guys are okay.

[Ian]

Yeah, I never played any of them.

[Damien]

I think you'd like it. I've got the remastered for Xbox. You can buy.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah.

[Ian]

I even. I even bought. I bought it, like, used. I bought the first one used. And I was like, I'm gonna play this. But like, I. It seemed a little. A little too spooky for me at the time when I was like. I was like, nah, I don't feel like playing a spooky game.

[Craig Thompson]

I would even call it spooky as much as kind of like, would you even call it a thriller? It's just kind of dark.

[Damien]

It's just.

[Craig Thompson]

It's tense. Yeah.

[Ian]

And then I had it spoiled for me. So, like, I was like, well, okay, the best part that was taken out.

[Craig Thompson]

The game's 10 years old. You can talk about it.

[Ian]

I don't know. Well, I don't even remember the full thing.

[Damien]

Square Enix tweeted something the other day about a new character being added to their fighting game Dissidia. And they were like, you know, join this character as he battles through all this stuff. And so many people were like, dude, spoilers. I'm like, Final Fantasy 12 came out in, like 2006. Like, it's. I'm like, come on. Like, when it's a decade and a half, you can just move on.

[Craig Thompson]

Well, people are gonna do that anyway, just the same way as people just follow Brand Accounts on Twitter just, they can reply to every tweet going silence brand every time. Like, whether it's Wendy's or just.

[Ian]

I love, I love the silence brand. Never gets.

[Craig Thompson]

They're getting creative now.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

Because. Because you can't really use the same picture twice. You have to, you have to keep it fresh.

[Ian]

Yeah. I think like one time the brand even responded with like the crab shooting, like, like shooting back at the crab or something.

[Craig Thompson]

Okay.

[Ian]

I was like, no, that's good.

[Craig Thompson]

That's good pr.

[Ian]

So you kind of mentioned like, you know, you, you've made friends and you made friends in this sort of quote unquote industry. You mentioned that like, you know, some people, some people in the industry, not, not great people. There is like some. I'm not saying like names.

[Craig Thompson]

No, no. But I mean, there's. There's people like that in every industry. Like, you're always gonna come across people who you just don't like. It's just, it's what makes people people, you know, like. Yeah, it can. What kind of. What makes things interesting. Everyone has their own personality traits. I will see certain personality traits clash. It's just, it's the way the world works. You're people who are like, oh, no, let's not do that. And then you just, you just don't talk to those people and you move on. You sit close, you stick to your, your friend group.

[Ian]

Would you say there's anything that, that anything that you learned that would be good wisdom for, for other people that are looking to, you know, that are kind of taking that next step in their life and maybe something they should.

[Craig Thompson]

Look out for as far as that goes. I mean, just keep your friend group small. I mean, as far as business wise, you can feel free to get as many, you know, connections as you want. That's fine. People are gonna help you out. But I mean, as far as your friends who you can talk to and trust, people who you've known for a very, very, very long time. Because a lot of people out there, especially, you know, especially in this industry that, you know, no one that anybody knows, you know, more people like behind the scenes in certain companies that they're only gonna choose people who's gonna better themselves. And you can tell that right off the bat. We've all come across people like that. So my best bit of advice is just keep your friend group small. Stay loyal to them and they'll stay loyal to you.

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[Craig Thompson]

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[Ian]

Terms and conditions apply yeah, I think, I think there's definitely something to that for sure. Because I think, you know, it's that kind of quantity over quality kind of thing. You can't be best friends with 50 people.

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Because you can't be that investing in that many people's.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, you can't keep up the.

[Damien]

It's exhausting. It's exhausting because you also want to give people, you know, your time and attention and you know, how much bandwidth do you have to do that?

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, if you're.

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Ian]

And you can kind of, you can kind of spot that. I think sometimes when, when you know, you think you're like a pretty good friend with somebody that's, that's also in the industry, but then you realize they only hit you up when it benefits them in some sort of way and you're like, oh, okay. I think that's, I think that's really important. Not even for people that are in the industry, but just in life in general. If somebody is only reaching out to.

[Craig Thompson]

You because they need something or using you for a specific reason. Exactly. Like if they're going to reach out to you saying like, hey, you wanna grab drinks? You wanna, how are you doing? You know, as a person, that's, that's good. I mean, that's an actual friend, but someone who's just like, hey. So I have this podcast on Smosh. No, I'm joking. I'm sorry, I'm messy there. But it's people who, yeah, like you said, only reach out for a specific reason just to better themselves. It's very fake like that.

[Ian]

Yeah.

[Damien]

I think though, just devil's advocate here, there's like an aspect to it where sometimes you meet people and like you said, you're not going to have the bandwidth to be best friends with everybody you meet. So there's a line you can sort of walk where like you meet someone who's in your same industry, you get along plenty fine and you know you're not gonna be best friends, but it's just sort of like, let's keep each other and each other's like Rolodexes in case stuff comes along. We would work well together if something comes up. Like, what's the difference between that and the point where you're feeling like you're used? Like, what is the big like red.

[Craig Thompson]

Flag for you if you, if you're going to a place where you don't want to be just because you know it's gonna better them.

[Damien]

Got it. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Craig Thompson]

Like say for example, like you're gonna come across people who, you know, you meet on an adult. You're like, yeah, it's good to see you. You know, they, they kind of join on to that group and you get drinks together and hang out and that's fine, you know, cool. It's, it's the people who. You don't hear from them for six months and they're like, hey, so I have this thing. I'm like, nope, I'm good.

[Damien]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Also it's like, it's like kind of, I don't know, is quid pro quo quo the right, the right usage of that where it's like, it's like, yeah, you do something for me, I'll do something for you. Yeah, but if it's like, but if it's like, you know, I'll do something.

[Craig Thompson]

For you and then I'll do something.

[Ian]

For you and then I'll do something for you and when, yeah, and then when I ask you to do something, you just don't respond to my text.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah.

[Ian]

Then it's like, oh, I see what this is.

[Damien]

You're not on my team.

[Craig Thompson]

Like, yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Damien]

I can, I can see that for sure.

[Ian]

That's not boys supporting boys.

[Damien]

No.

[Ian]

You know, girls supporting boys or the other way around. There you go, people supporting people.

[Damien]

There we go. Yeah, that is the spice.

[Ian]

So what can I expect going to your tour in two days?

[Craig Thompson]

It's, it's a stand up gaming hybrid. It's something I've been working on the last like two years, I want to say, because I wanted to try and create something that people can actually just enjoy, whether you know my content or not. Yeah, it took a while to write and then I brought on Big Jigglypanda Anthony to come on tour with me because I feel like a, I think me and him, our dynamic works really well together. And also I wanted people to leave with a message. You know, sometimes you watch some Netflix specials and they're, you know, their message is like, don't do weed unless you're five years Old, you know, bullshit. I wanted.

[Ian]

I said it's a pretty good message.

[Craig Thompson]

It's not, but, you know, differencing opinions. I want people to leave with a message of, you know, life can get real shitty. You gotta, you gotta go through the bad to really enjoy the good. And I feel like I have some really good stories for that. Anthony has some really good stories for that. It's a fun night. Some crowd interaction. There's some just bullshittery. And I'm really proud of it.

[Ian]

And it's called the Demonetized tour because I know, I know you've been demonetized. You, you got hit hard by the Demonetized band, you know, Banhammer. Interesting. Big jiggly panda as well.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, we both did. For all. Because we, we swear a lot in our videos. I didn't swear for like six months and then now I'm getting back into it because I'm like, wow, I didn't actually do anything.

[Ian]

Really? Yeah.

[Craig Thompson]

So crazy. I deleted a lot of my really raunchy videos to try and see if it would help out. But, you know, more of an experiment didn't work out. What do we learn? But I think because I have a thousand videos of me swearing in it, YouTube has already put like a flag on the channel saying like, hey, we know this channel swears this is not brand safe according to them. But then the weird thing is YouTube is very like. Or sorry. YouTube even said themselves like, you know, your brand safe is if you can show your video to a five year old. But then you've also got YouTube coming out now, taking video, taking commercials off and comments and things like that. So it's like we're trying to make videos for five year olds, yet you take away ads for videos that are made for five year olds.

[Ian]

Yeah, it's, it's a very, I mean, it's playing a very, very, very safe game. I mean, they're trying to be, I'm guessing, about on par with television.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, that's.

[Ian]

And that's kind of the game that we've always played is stay, Stay appropriate for television. Like network television. Bleep out curses, don't show too much heavy violence.

[Damien]

I had to stop showing my butt in videos.

[Ian]

Yeah, I know. I had to stop.

[Damien]

Took an A B. Be sorry for the world, man.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah, no more. You do have a great ass and I always, always think of that.

[Damien]

I appreciate that.

[Craig Thompson]

It may not be in videos anymore.

[Damien]

Thank you.

[Craig Thompson]

But it's still on you.

[Damien]

Thank you, man.

[Craig Thompson]

No problem.

[Damien]

That's, that's behind me.

[Craig Thompson]

Now, nice, nice. Okay, nice. No, don't cut that out. No, you don't live with that.

[Ian]

Yeah, and I had to stop. I had to stop wearing, you know, unitards that showed the dick imprint on my. On my leg all the way. Yeah, all the way down. Yeah. It's interesting how it's affected some channels more than others. And I know you've been. I know you've been fighting with that for like over a year.

[Craig Thompson]

Well, it's funny how, like, this is a good example of this. So. My man. Sorry for the slight flex, by the way. But anyway, listen, so the Melod channel, I did a lot of, like, used to do a lot of reaction videos and you do a lot of skits and the videos would do well, it'd be great. The videos get monetized. Everything is fine. I would upload that same kind of content onto my new Craig Thompson channel. And most videos I upload on my Craig Thompson channel get trending. Like, not just gaming trending, but like actual, like American trending every single time. So I'm doing pretty much the same video. One of my many lad and one of my Craig Thompson. Both me. Both, same kind of humor. Some came kind of whatever. One's on trending and one doesn't show up and recommended.

[Damien]

So you do think that that video has been sort of. I mean, that channel has been.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah. Oh, 100 knocked.

[Damien]

Yeah. That's interest.

[Craig Thompson]

You know, that doesn't mean I'm not gonna upload there. It just means it's like I'm just gonna go back to swearing and just enjoying it.

[Ian]

Yeah, that's good because I mean, not.

[Craig Thompson]

Swearing on my videos, it was. It was difficult. It was difficult. I didn't bleep it, like beep. It was just like. I did just cut it completely, so. And then nothing.

[Damien]

That's funny.

[Ian]

I think that's smart. I think that's. That's just sort of an evolution. Obviously, the. The tour is an evolution for you as well. What's next?

[Craig Thompson]

I'm writing music right now and I'm trying to release my first single in EP next year.

[Ian]

Oh.

[Damien]

Irish country.

[Craig Thompson]

Right. I'm a singer.

[Ian]

No, many lads somewhere.

[Craig Thompson]

Just with the. The amount I used to work at for my rugby days, I kind of fell in love with house music.

[Damien]

Oh, that's great.

[Craig Thompson]

Aggressive kind of EDM house music. So, yeah, so my original plan in life was I went to college for music production because I wanted to try and make jingles for commercials. Whoa. So that was my original plan in life. And then I. Whenever YouTube came along, put on the back burner. But the last, like, three years, I've been working behind the scenes to try and get it up to, like, a professional quality, and now I think it's slowly getting around that time. So I'm gonna try and work hard and try and get some music out next year.

[Damien]

That's really awesome. Grants.

[Ian]

I think that's a. That's a cool thing about. About, you know, YouTube and. And, you know, building a sort of fan base that. That enjoys what you do because they're gonna be there to support you through whatever sort of passion you have.

[Craig Thompson]

Well, for me as well, it's also, like, a fine line because I want to release music. It's not. It's not gonna be called Mini Ladies. I don't know if I'm gonna call it Craig Thompson or something else, but I'm trying to pitch it so I'm not just, like, another YouTuber musician. So for me, like, I'll probably. I want to make a video saying, hey, by the way, I released a song. This is me. Cool. And then that'll be it. I might just leave it there and then. So, you know, I'll get a little bit of a boost at the start, and then I'll just let it grow by itself. That's really cool, because for me, I'm kind of afraid that people will. Or, like, especially in. In the music industry, they'll see me as just another YouTuber musician. I don't really want that, because when I be kind of taken somewhat seriously with it. So I'll probably just mention it once and then just let it do its thing. If it blows up, it blows up. If it doesn't, it doesn't. But at the same time, like, I put my heart and soul into it. I can be proud of it. So. Yeah, that's great.

[Ian]

Well. Well, before this smosh cast ends, can you. Can you give us. Can you give. You said you wanted to do jingles. Can you give us a jingle for my favorite coffee? Just, like, throw on the spot. On the spot jingle.

[Craig Thompson]

My favorite coffee Energy for you and me. Coffee, Please give me money. Okay.

[Ian]

I love it. Craig, thank you so much for coming on.

[Craig Thompson]

Thank you. You guys are always amazing.

[Ian]

Best of luck with the. The rest of the tour. That already happened by the time that this is out.

[Craig Thompson]

Yeah.

[Ian]

And I love you, man.

[Craig Thompson]

Love you too.

[Damien]

It was great meeting you, man.

[Ian]

And I love you guys for. For listening. Thank you so much for listening to another smoshcast. And if you're not yet subscribed to smoshcast. Please do. So we got. Yeah, it's. It's.

[Craig Thompson]

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