S2: #51 - Nerding Out with The Boys

Summary

Smosh Mouth – Season 2, Episode #51: Nerding Out with The Boys

Release Date: February 19, 2020

In this lively episode of "Smosh Mouth," hosts Ian Hecox, Damien Hosk, and Shane Todd dive into a variety of topics, blending their personal experiences with their passions for wrestling, gaming, and pop culture. Here's a detailed summary of their conversations, enriched with notable quotes and timestamps.

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1. Attending WWE Royal Rumble 2020

The episode kicks off with the hosts sharing their recent experience attending the WWE Royal Rumble 2020. As newcomers to the wrestling scene, Damien and Ian express their amazement and excitement.

• Ian Hecox [01:43]: “...this podcast is coming out because of the tour... we were at the WWE Royal Rumble 2020.”

Shane Todd explains the unique structure of the Royal Rumble, highlighting its 30-person battle royale format where wrestlers enter the ring every two minutes.

• Shane Todd [02:17]: “What is the Royal Rumble? What separates a Royal Rumble from a different wrestling match?”

Damien reflects on being in the front row, witnessing intense matches and interactions between wrestlers like Brock Lesnar.

• Damien Hosk [04:24]: “...Matt Rob was just like, yeah, you suck. And Brock Lesnar looked right at Matt Rob. It was great.”

The hosts marvel at the physicality of the matches and the crowd's engagement, noting the blend of scripted theatrics and genuine athleticism.

• Damien Hosk [24:23]: “...they do actually get thrown the hell around...”

2. Navigating Finances and Minimalist Lifestyle

Transitioning from wrestling, the conversation shifts to personal finances and lifestyle choices. Both Ian and Damien discuss their approaches to spending and saving, emphasizing minimalism.

• Damien Hosk [12:56]: “...even though my car is a 2007 and it's had problems... I'm fine with that.”

• Ian Hecox [12:08]: “...my car works. In the next couple of years, I could afford to get another car, but I'm like, my car works.”

They delve into the hidden costs of ownership, such as maintenance and fees, and reflect on the psychological aspects of financial habits.

• Shane Todd [10:11]: “If you think about buying a castle, they look cheap on the outset, but it's not the price of the castle that'll get you... it's the castle fees and feeding the serfs.”

3. Exploring Media and Entertainment

A significant portion of the podcast is dedicated to their favorite media, encompassing video games, TV shows, and anime. They discuss expectations versus reality in beloved franchises and share their thoughts on upcoming releases.

• Ian Hecox [44:05]: “...Final Fantasy 7 Remake is going to be a letdown. ... people are going to be like, we should have just let it be a classic.”

• Shane Todd [43:28]: “But I'm glad they're doing it, but... Well, okay, this might be a calling it.”

They analyze the potential pitfalls of remakes like "Final Fantasy VII" and anticipated titles like "Cyberpunk 2077," expressing concerns about maintaining the essence of classics amidst modernization.

• Damien Hosk [45:22]: “...Final Fantasy 7 is set up to fail no matter what... 'Final Fantasy 7 Remake' is going to come out and people are going to be like, 'we should have just let it be a classic.'”

The hosts also draw parallels between wrestling storylines and anime, appreciating the depth and engagement both mediums offer.

• Ian Hecox [05:12]: “...wrestling is essentially anime. Like, the storylines are anime.”

4. Reflections on Fandom and Fan Reactions

The group reflects on the intensity of fandoms, particularly within "Star Wars," comparing it to other dedicated fanbases like "Star Trek."

• Damien Hosk [66:42]: “...if someone is toxic and going after one of the actors, screw them. I don't care. Get them out of there.”

They express empathy towards passionate fans who sometimes exhibit extreme behaviors due to their deep connection with the content, highlighting the fine line between enthusiasm and toxicity.

5. Personal Fitness Goals: Spartan Races and Workouts

Towards the end of the podcast, the conversation turns to personal fitness aspirations. The hosts joke about adopting the "One Punch Man" workout routine and set goals to participate in Spartan races, emphasizing camaraderie and humor in their fitness endeavors.

• Ian Hecox [72:11]: “I do want to do a spartan race this year.”

• Damien Hosk [73:27]: “Let's do the One Punch Man workout.”

They discuss the challenges and motivations behind such fitness goals, sharing anecdotes and encouraging each other to stay active.

Notable Quotes

• Damien Hosk [02:03]: “...the one rule is that to get someone out, you have to get them over the top rope and both of their feet have to touch outside of the ring.”

• Ian Hecox [05:12]: “...wrestling is essentially anime. Like, the storylines are anime.”

• Shane Todd [10:11]: “If you think about buying a castle, they look cheap on the outset, but it's not the price of the castle that'll get you... it's the castle fees and feeding the serfs.”

• Damien Hosk [45:22]: “...Final Fantasy 7 is set up to fail no matter what...”

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Throughout the episode, Ian, Damien, and Shane seamlessly blend humor with insightful commentary, offering listeners a comprehensive look into their interests and experiences. Whether they're dissecting the intricacies of a wrestling match or debating the merits of a video game remake, the dynamic between the hosts ensures an engaging and entertaining listen for both longtime fans and newcomers alike.

Transcript

[Ian Hecox]

Ramble.

[Damien Hosk]

To really love a thing so much that it, like, defines you, but to also never be happy or satisfied, that sucks. Like, is there any part of this thing that you love that you actually love?

[Shane Todd]

My calling it cyberpunk is gonna be a letdown.

[Ian Hecox]

My calling it is that Final Fantasy VII remake is gonna be a letdown.

[Shane Todd]

Fun fact, guys. If you're thinking about buying a castle, they look cheap on the outset, but it's not the price of the castle that'll get you, it's the.

[Ian Hecox]

And castle fees and it's also feeding the serfs.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah, if I chew a cough drop, I won't chew it, but, like, I kind of don't.

[Shane Todd]

That could be.

[Damien Hosk]

No, you can suck on it slightly. Is it audible?

[Shane Todd]

Okay, I'd say, like, just make. Just be mindful of when you're talking, it's not clanking against your teeth.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah, I keep it stored in my gum like I do with.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, you teeth. I mean, if anyone's.

[Ian Hecox]

If I thought you were about to say teeth like I do with my teeth.

[Shane Todd]

I mean, if anyone's going to be good at controlling their voice and they're talking with random things in their mouth.

[Damien Hosk]

Thank you.

[Ian Hecox]

That sucked. That sucked a lot.

[Damien Hosk]

Very sorry.

[Ian Hecox]

No, it's funny.

[Shane Todd]

Welcome, everyone, to the Smosh Cast. This, I believe, is number 51.

[Damien Hosk]

Wow.

[Shane Todd]

Today I'm joined by my lovely two boys, Damien Hosk and Shane Todd.

[Damien Hosk]

It's bros. Like we. Look at this.

[Shane Todd]

Bros. Like we again.

[Ian Hecox]

Yes. Very tired. We. We flew back from. From Houston.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah. What were you guys doing in Houston?

[Ian Hecox]

So this podcast is coming out because of the tour. This podcast coming out in a couple weeks after we recorded it, but we were at the WWE Royal Rumble 2020, baby. So what's nuts?

[Shane Todd]

What is the Royal Rumble? What separates a Royal Rumble from a different wrestling match?

[Damien Hosk]

Apparently there, from what I've been told, there are four, like, big match styles per year. And this one is a 30 person battle royale. Two people start in and every two minutes, or roughly two minutes, another person is added to the mix.

[Shane Todd]

What?

[Damien Hosk]

The one rule is that to get someone out, you have to get them over the top rope and both of their feet have to touch outside of the ring. So sometimes people are thrown under the ropes and they can hop back in.

[Ian Hecox]

Or they're thrown over and they manage to, like, leap across into the, like the barrier and they stand along the barrier and they run around and they like, manage jump back to the. There's a ton.

[Damien Hosk]

Like, their feet didn't touch. Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

As long as it's very much, like, in a way, it's like, kind of playground rules of, like. Like, floor is lava, floors, lava. And they really mess around with it. Like, they make sure every now and then, like, a wrestler gets really close or, like, has one foot. One. In the women's r. A woman got thrown off. And then there was a.

[Damien Hosk]

No Naomi, I think.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. And. And this wrestler named Otis was. Was laying down on the ground, and she landed on top of him. Then she was able to stand up on top of him and then, like, leap back into the ring. They have, like, tons of bits, like, that plan. It's really fun.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

It's nuts, man. And, like, it was cool. They get tossed around.

[Damien Hosk]

Like, they've never seen wrestling before.

[Ian Hecox]

No, I'd never been to a match. And, like, they're destroying. Like, they got thrown into the announcer stand and every, like. And it's not like it's a fake announcer stand. Like, there were. There were TV screens and all this equipment set up. And, I mean, a guy got thrown it and just destroyed it. Like, it just all got annihilated.

[Shane Todd]

And you guys. And you guys got tickies right at, like, the floor. Like, I saw you guys on television.

[Damien Hosk]

They really took care of us because, again, we were kind of spoiled now because we had never seen any kind of wrestling match. Just being there would have been enough. But, like, we were literally behind the announcers, first row, like, floor level. So people kept tweeting us, like, I just saw you on tv. Is that you? And they were like, your face look like a kid in the candy store. But, yeah, as cool as it was, you know, there were times where I didn't really know how to react. Like, I was cheering for everybody as they came out. But then there was, like, I think four or five people into the, like, women's Battle Royale or Royal Rumble. I was like, yeah. And then everyone tapped me, and they're like, no. And I was like, not. No, not her. She's the bad.

[Ian Hecox]

This one Brock Lesnar got. When. When he got taken out, Matt Rob was just like, yeah, you suck. And Brock Lesnar looked right at Matt Rob. It was great.

[Shane Todd]

And then Matt Rob just shrunk.

[Ian Hecox]

Just shrunk. Oh, yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

I have a photo of, like, the guy who defeated Brock Lesnar, like, stamping around on stage as Brock Lesnar like, looks up at, like, me and Matt's area. It's kind of a cool shot.

[Ian Hecox]

It's definitely dope. You get into it. Like. Like, I went in not knowing much about it, but by the end, you're like, yeah, boo.

[Damien Hosk]

Boo.

[Ian Hecox]

You suck, Brock Lesnar.

[Shane Todd]

Fuck you.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. That Trent. That Trent sure is me. It's a. It's a band joke for some very specific people. There you go.

[Shane Todd]

It's a Nine Inch Nails reference.

[Damien Hosk]

Yep. Trent Reznor.

[Shane Todd]

Oh, Brock Lesnar. Trent Lesnar.

[Damien Hosk]

Yep.

[Shane Todd]

Oh, that's a tongue twister.

[Damien Hosk]

Yep. I'm warming up. Brock Lesnar. Trent Reznor. Brock Lesnar. Trent.

[Ian Hecox]

But. But there's a lot of comparisons to it. Like, I mean, we realized wrestling is anime.

[Damien Hosk]

It is.

[Ian Hecox]

In a lot of ways, it's essentially anime. Like, the storylines are anime. The way that it's like, oh, no, he's about to get beaten. He's like. He's, like, unconscious. Like, oh, no. Get up, Ro Reigns.

[Damien Hosk]

Everyone in the audience is like, stand up. We believe in you.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. They'll, like, slowly get up.

[Shane Todd]

It took.

[Damien Hosk]

They just had to believe in me, literally. That's. We even made that joke because we talked about it with, like, a, you know, certain movie that came out recently. It's like, oh, no, now he's gonna believe harder, and that's how he's gonna defeat him. Like, that's. That's how it goes, how it works.

[Ian Hecox]

You just have to do harder.

[Damien Hosk]

Do more of it.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

That's why I hate singing movies and singing, like, TV shows, because they just.

[Shane Todd]

Have to sing harder.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

Like, the dreamworks sing that came out or whatever. It's literally just like, if you want to make a difference, you're gonna have to go out there and sing the best, most goodest, the most you ever did. And then it's like, now I am. Now I can do it.

[Shane Todd]

That's. I mean, if you think about it, every movie, in some. In. In a lot of ways, do that harder. Like in I watch Ford versus Ferrari, and they were like, you just gotta press the gas pedal harder, and then you suddenly speed past the other person. You just gotta. You just gotta. Gas pedal harder.

[Damien Hosk]

Yes.

[Ian Hecox]

What if I just drive car better in a race?

[Damien Hosk]

It'll never work.

[Shane Todd]

What if I just shift? I should have. I need to shift harder.

[Ian Hecox]

I think I know how we win this race. We've been going at 80 miles per hour, but what if we just decide to go at 90 miles per hour?

[Shane Todd]

I only had this gas pedal pressed down halfway. What if I pushed it all the way?

[Ian Hecox]

It's amazing how that trope is used over and over again, but still, every time it's used, there's a part of me that's still always Just kind of like, you know.

[Shane Todd]

Totally.

[Damien Hosk]

You have to add in the trope where it's just like, why are you always pressing it down halfway? It's like, When I was 10 years old, my brother and I pressed it down all the way. He popped. Now I don't do that anymore. And then it's just like, your brother would want you to press down the pedal more. It's just like. You're right.

[Ian Hecox]

I think that's literally the plot of the first Fast and Furious.

[Shane Todd]

Yes.

[Damien Hosk]

Really?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

I don't think it's literally the first one. Wow.

[Ian Hecox]

It's like. Because it's like his father's car, and he's just like, I don't drive. It scares me. Yeah. Yeah. At the end, he's like, all right, I'll drive it.

[Shane Todd]

When he does a burnout and a wheelie at the same time, which is physically impossible. Physically impossible to do both. You didn't leave without. But again, it's badass.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, it's super badass.

[Shane Todd]

Like, they had to. They had to literally rig the car because it was real, it's practical effect. They had to rig it so that, like, it would do a burnout. And then they had, like, some kind of piston down below that pushed the car up to do a wheelie. I'm guessing the director or somebody or the writer was like, yeah. And then the car burns out and then does a wheelie. And then, like, the special effects people are like, what the hell?

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. Amazing.

[Shane Todd]

But, yeah, that's. It's so funny, like, how. How common that trope is in any kind of, like, racing movie, they shift and then suddenly they go way faster. It's like, oh, all we gotta do is shift again.

[Damien Hosk]

Yep.

[Shane Todd]

Nick Cage shifting forever.

[Damien Hosk]

Wait, what is that?

[Ian Hecox]

It's this YouTube video someone cut gone. And it's gone in 60 seconds.

[Shane Todd]

No, it's the beginning of the rock.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, FBI. Yeah, it's the beginning of the movie called the Rock, where and they take this whole chase, this chase sequence, but they cut it down so it looks like he just steals a car and crashes it within 10 seconds.

[Shane Todd]

So it's him.

[Ian Hecox]

They're like, get out of the car, FBI. He gets the car. She's like, wow. It's just all the.

[Shane Todd]

It's just all the in. All in car driving, just, like, steering and shifting and then steering and steering, and then he just crashes. You're going down.

[Damien Hosk]

Mr. Cage, we've just had a movie offer sent to your office. Yes, I'll do it.

[Ian Hecox]

You don't. You don't yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

Yes, I'll do it. I don't want to read it. I can't do anything.

[Ian Hecox]

I read the script. It's great. There's. You don't have a. That's a menu for tender greens on your. On your computer.

[Damien Hosk]

I'll do it. I'll do the Backyard Stack.

[Ian Hecox]

Apparently, his new movie that just came out is. Is good.

[Shane Todd]

Is that the one where he plays himself?

[Ian Hecox]

Well, no, it's the one where it's an. It's aliens. Something like.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, we didn't say we weren't gonna see it. Spoiling.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, I heard about the one replay. He's playing himself. But that's not being filmed yet, Right? Or it's. It's just starting, maybe.

[Damien Hosk]

It's been being filmed for 20 years.

[Ian Hecox]

It's got to be fun to be Nicholas Cage. Just do any movie you want because you're in crippling debt.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, I was gonna say because you're in debt.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, yeah. It's gotta be dope.

[Damien Hosk]

How do you end up in debt?

[Ian Hecox]

Have you seen that. Have you seen the tombstone that he already bought?

[Damien Hosk]

Or. Yeah, well, there you go.

[Ian Hecox]

Pyramid. He. It's that he bought that pyramid.

[Shane Todd]

It turns out mausoleum or it turns out when you buy a lot of castles in Europe.

[Damien Hosk]

Is that right? Is that literally? What?

[Ian Hecox]

Literally.

[Shane Todd]

I think. I think that's what happened. So, fun fact, guys. If you think about buying a castle, they look cheap on the outset, but it's not the price of the castle that'll get you. It's the taxes and castle fees.

[Ian Hecox]

And it's also feeding the serfs.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah, the serfs may have a cut of what they grow and nothing more.

[Shane Todd]

So I think he owns a bunch of castles and then because of that, good God. Debts mount.

[Damien Hosk]

I don't understand. That's got to be. It's got to be a psychological thing where you just become addicted to being like, yes, I can do that. Like, I don't know. I've been in positions before where, like, I've been broke as a joke, but spent money on stupid stuff because it's almost like a comfort to myself being like, see, I. I can do whatever. So maybe if you come from not having a lot and then all of a sudden you have a lot, you just want to be like, yes, yes, I can do that. I never have to worry again.

[Shane Todd]

I think it's also another thing of, like, just running costs. So. So if you're. If you've purchased a lot of things and had a lot of things going on, you have this monthly cost that it takes for your. To keep your livelihood up. And that's how. That's how you get the sort of, like, Wesley Snipes of the world, where, you know, or the MC Hammers, where it's like, everything, you know, seems affordable, but you have this constant running cost of everything. Your. Your cost of living from month to month increases. Like, I. I know this guy that he was. I think he was in oil or something. Made a lot of money. Business wasn't so great. And he was like. And he was like, yeah, just to stay afloat, I need to make $40,000 a month.

[Damien Hosk]

Whoa.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. There's. There's been studies that people, like, just for some reason, psychologically, we adjust to the income we're making. So you. You never actually get to. I don't know. People aren't good at saving. Like, they're not good at going, oh. And they. They're going, oh, I'm making this much, so I can spend this much.

[Damien Hosk]

I don't spend money on anything. For that very reason.

[Ian Hecox]

I don't spend much money either. I've realized, like, we were talking about. We were talking about our cars.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. And how my car is garbage.

[Ian Hecox]

And I like the car that I have. Sure, in the next couple of years, I could afford to get another car, But I'm like, my car works.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

Is my mindset. I'm like, I'm going to drive it into the ground. Because I just don't. But I just don't desire. I'm like, it's impractical.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. To me, they get to the same place at the same speed. Especially when you're living in Los Angeles. Like, it's not.

[Shane Todd]

If you got a Porsche, but you're.

[Damien Hosk]

Stuck in traffic like everybody else. That's what I'm saying. And my car is from 2007, and it's had problems for a long time. It broke down when I was on a mini personal vacation on top of a mountain a couple of weeks ago, and I thought I was going to be stranded and couldn't get back to Smosh for filming because there was, like, one small garage in the town, and it was like, well, they don't open up until Monday. And then it's like, it was literally that. And so even after being stranded on a mountain because my car broke down.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

I'm still just like, well, it's. It's fine. Like, I don't get it.

[Shane Todd]

Wouldn't you end up spending more money on fixing this car over and over and over and over and over again, Yes, I would.

[Damien Hosk]

But also right now, I don't have a car payment, so there's just a part of me that's just like, I don't want to do that. And like, I'm. I'm able to save for the first time in a long time. And I've been enjoying saving. It feels nice. Like, I only spend money on, like, treating myself to food every once in a while, so.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, is it a situation where you're in the back of your head, you're saving up to potentially, like, buy a house someday?

[Damien Hosk]

I would really like.

[Ian Hecox]

Because that's a little different. Because I feel like that's different because then you are. You are. You're not going, oh, I just don't spend money on anything. You're going, oh, I'm not spending money on these things because I have a bigger thing in mind.

[Damien Hosk]

That's fair. It's just. I think that there is a healthy balance, though. Like, right after. So random. I had a good amount of money in the bank, but it. Rent in Los Angeles is so expensive that even though I was. I did the same thing I'm doing now. I don't spend money. It was gone pretty quickly due to just rent and upkeep of life stuff. Cars, fixings, different car, still a piece of garbage, you know? Now I need to find the balance where it's like, when was the last time I bought new clothes? All my furniture doesn't match because it's hand me downs. And I'm fine with that. But like, most of the time I. When I buy new bed sheets, I need a smaller computer table because my room is unnavigable right now. Why can't I do that? I just. I need to find a balance where it's like, it's okay to buy something.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, there is. Because I remember it was a couple months ago where they were getting rid of a, like, not a good couch here in the office. Like, it was kind of like, dirty. And you're like, oh, I'll take that. And I remember I looked and I was like, damien, buy yourself a couch.

[Damien Hosk]

I was like, it's a little too big for my room. It's very dirty, but it's free.

[Ian Hecox]

I was like, damien, you can. You can do that.

[Damien Hosk]

But I'm kind of a. I'm kind of a hoarder in that way. I've gotten better. But remember when we were roommates? That's what I'd be like.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, you are. You are the type that you. It's the practicality, it's like, I'll find.

[Shane Todd]

A use for it.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, you're like. You're like, oh, that'll work. That'll fit. And I'm just like, but you could also buy yourself something that, like, works better or whatever. But you're like, no, but this works. And I'm like, okay. No, the funniest thing, when we live together, I love. This was great. He came home and you definitely. You're not the same at all.

[Damien Hosk]

Like, not quite.

[Ian Hecox]

Because also, we weren't back in the day when we weren't making any money. It did make more sense, right? But you came home one time and you had this giant piece of driftwood.

[Damien Hosk]

But it was a really cool.

[Ian Hecox]

It was really cool looking. And he was just like, yeah, I found this driftwood. I'm going to use it to, like, make a shelf or a headboard or what it was. But then it sat in our garage, and our garage was filled with tons of stuff that all of us were like, I'm gonna get to that at some point.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. I did just have a personal milestone in that department, though. One of our PAs on set while filming recently was like, he. We were talking about video game stuff, and he's like, yeah, well, I play stuff on computer sometimes, but I don't actually have a console because we would need to hook it up to a tv. And my girlfriend and I don't have a tv. And I was like, ooh, you want a tv? Because if you follow my Instagram stories, sometimes you see I had two TVs, one on top of the other one of them I used, the other one. I didn't. It was like 12 years old, but it was still there, and I was just refusing to get rid of it. So I was like, I'm gonna. I want to give you this tv. I'm gonna just get rid of it. And in return, he baked me some. Like, he and his girlfriend baked me, like, a little carrot cake thing. But, like, old Damien would have never done that. It would have been like, well, I kind of need to. One of what if one of the breaks, right?

[Ian Hecox]

It's funny, you and I are polar opposites in that fast fash. I love to get rid of stuff.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

I love to have as little as possible. Like this past weekend even, I was like, let me get rid of this book bookshelf and a bunch of books that. I'm just like, you know what? I read these, or I've had them for years and I'm not going to read them. So I'm going to get rid of a ton of them. I do that every couple months. I get rid of a ton of stuff.

[Shane Todd]

It's healthy.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Todd]

I don't clutter your life.

[Ian Hecox]

I don't like to have things that I don't use. I'm like, I want to just have the stuff that I need.

[Damien Hosk]

I could take a page from your book because I, I have this, like, you know Those IKEA, like, 4x4, like, cubbies that you get and you buy your own. Yeah. So I've had one of those for, like, years. And I realized recently it takes up so much space in my room, it's not very comfortable. I can't really, like, lean back too much when, like, streaming or just at my computer because of that, and I should get rid of it. But I'm like, no, those drawers are filled with things. And literally there is one drawer I actually go into to get stuff, and it's the one that houses all my, like, HDMI cables and computer stuff. Otherwise, I, I could. That. That thing could burn down tomorrow just by itself in a very concentrated fire. And I would not. There's not a single thing. I'd be like, oh, man, that thing.

[Ian Hecox]

No, man.

[Damien Hosk]

Some stuff.

[Ian Hecox]

Marie Kondo it.

[Shane Todd]

Marie.

[Damien Hosk]

But I'm like, I like mess.

[Shane Todd]

I think that's. I think it's also like, you know, some people get that takeaway when they, when they travel. They see how people live with. With less. Because America, we're just used to abundance and it's just like, things and stuff, and then you go somewhere else and you're like, this is nice. Like, you don't need, you don't need this or that or this decorative plate or this old toy from, you know, when you were a kid or whatever.

[Damien Hosk]

Like, yeah, yeah.

[Shane Todd]

You know, it's.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, you. You put a lot. We put a lot of important. It's. For me, it was with books because I, and, and I, I read this, like, because Marie Kondo does that thing where she's like, get rid of this. Get rid of this and look at books. And what books do you want to get rid of? And I remember that part out a lot of controversy. So we were like, don't get rid of books. They're really important stuff. And someone said, owning a bunch of books isn't a personality trait. And I was like, oh. And it like, kind of hit because I was like, I'm keeping a lot of books just because I'm like, I love books and I just want a lot of books and I was like, but these are a lot of books that I don't actually care about. Books that I read that I didn't even like, why am I keeping it other than to just have it there? So it's like, I read that book, I'm like nuts. I'd rather have only the books that I love.

[Shane Todd]

But did you bring a girl home, she sees you got a big ass shelf of books but I don't.

[Damien Hosk]

She knows you're literally.

[Ian Hecox]

I'd rather, I'd rather bring someone home and have like a set of books that I love and could talk about so that they go, oh, those books. I'm like, yes, those are my favorite books. I've read more, but those are my favorites also since I live in an apartment and you know, in la, you move, moving just happens a lot more. I like knowing that when I move it's not going to be that hard. I love that idea.

[Damien Hosk]

You know what, thinking about your apartment, that would be the easiest move ever. Moving is never easy, but damn, you've.

[Ian Hecox]

Done a good job. I do not. So I've, I replaced a lot of my furniture in this past year with like lighter furniture so that I'm just like cuz with that in mind. But also like it's not like it doesn't look good, it's just like it works. I just, I like to be half.

[Damien Hosk]

Nomad, you know, that was the bit when we did your house tour video. Everyone's like, did Damien really steal Shane's table and chairs? And it's like, well, yes, but I was, I, I stoked to like get.

[Ian Hecox]

Rid of before beforehand. I was like, well, yeah, we had planned on you taking all that stuff for a while and I was like, let's just. Yeah, let's just do this.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

Is that too inside?

[Ian Hecox]

Oh no, of course. People probably thought you just brought it right back.

[Damien Hosk]

But yeah, no, it's in, it's in my home.

[Ian Hecox]

And I do own that many candles.

[Damien Hosk]

He really does.

[Shane Todd]

He's like a candle boy.

[Ian Hecox]

Love candles. Candles are great.

[Shane Todd]

The wrestling is great. You guys, you guys feel like you're going to go to more wrestling matches.

[Ian Hecox]

You were saying at the end that you might be like, you could see yourself getting into it.

[Damien Hosk]

I like doing, I like passion. I like when people are passionate about a thing. And like, I know you love like cars. So if you were ever like, Damien, I want to show you this really cool car related thing. Even if it's not my thing, I would love doing that.

[Shane Todd]

Right.

[Damien Hosk]

Same thing. If Matt Rob was Just like, yeah, we're all going to this wrestling event and invited me along, I'd be super down.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, I think I feel the same way with, with wrestling. It's. It's. As long as you have somebody that's there, that's. That's enthusiastic about it and they're not a snob about it. And they're just like, they're, they're welcoming you into their passion and sharing it with you and explaining the things that you don't understand. And you're kind of like, they're cheering.

[Damien Hosk]

Show me why this is amazing. I can't wait to see ye.

[Ian Hecox]

Mari and Matt were so into it. It's infectious to not. Yeah, like, they're pumped about it.

[Damien Hosk]

They were so happy.

[Shane Todd]

And also, there's just so much crowd participation.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane Todd]

In the at wrestling, like, yeah, everyone is just so involved in it. Like you said with like Brock Lesnar where everyone's like, fuck you. Because nobody likes Brock Lesnar. He's a human rhino.

[Ian Hecox]

And like, he was. He literally is. And like, what's fun is like, they play, like, they participate. Whereas, like, in sports, they're doing their best to ignore the crowd for the most part. Whereas. Whereas, like when Brock Lesnar got thrown out and everyone's just like, you suck or whatever. And he, like, he's looking at the crowd, he's like, he's like, stop.

[Damien Hosk]

Be quiet.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, it's like, great. And I'm like. And I know he's playing along with it or like, like Roman Reigns stands up. But like, there's a wrestler, like, sneaking up behind him. He's like, robin, behind you. It's. It's definitely. And like, you find yourself doing it.

[Damien Hosk]

I will.

[Ian Hecox]

The end.

[Damien Hosk]

I will say the one thing that kind of confused me is so random thing. I auditioned for a WWE related voiceover thing way back in the day. So I researched a lot of these characters, like right when I was starting out. We're talking like seven years ago. And so seeing them now, like, these characters undergo changes and evolution and all that stuff. And there's one called Daniel Bryan who's known for being like, he just dresses like he didn't know there was a match that day. He's just like a normal guy. He's a normal guy, but he's positive. So his word is yes. And it's all about the yes movement. So everyone's just like, yes, yes, Daniel Bryan. So watching his evolution now, they've paired him against this other wrestler called the Fiend. Or it's someone's like, alter ego, where it's, like, supposed to be a literal demon that just torments him. But from what I've seen, there is such little wrestling that actually happens between them. Daniel Bryan just gets the snot kicked out of him for, like, 15 straight minutes just being whipped with leather. And every once in a while, he'll just look up and be like. Like, he's really thinking, like, maybe I do have it in me to get it back up. But. But in the audience is like, here for it. But he also keeps losing. So when he finally lost again, this time I was like, what did I just watch? This was like a snuff film.

[Ian Hecox]

That's to set up. That's to set up further. Like it's a continuous storyline that continues forever.

[Shane Todd]

Because I think there was no, like.

[Damien Hosk]

Back and forth, though. There wasn't like a pull of, like, is he gonna do it this time? He just got hit on the ground with 15 minutes with rocks. Just, like, hitting it, hitting him on the head with rocks.

[Shane Todd]

I think when I went, the fiend showed up and kicked his ass. Yeah, but it was. But it was, like, really confusing. No, it was. I think it was somebody else, but it was just, like, really confusing.

[Ian Hecox]

But I think that's part of Daniel Bryan's bit, maybe, is that as like, he's the underdog who's going to keep getting the crappy.

[Damien Hosk]

But you want to just look.

[Ian Hecox]

But he will eventually.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, he also will eventually be the fiend. He looks like a homeless Mormon. That's how I.

[Damien Hosk]

What a specific sentence.

[Ian Hecox]

Accurate. If it. Look, if it turned out, if. If it goes a couple more matches or years and he just keeps losing, and then the Fiend's like, well, I'm retiring and I'm the champion. Then. Then I would agree, but I think they're. I think they're having him keep beating him so that people are like, wow, he's going to keep beating him so that the match where Daniel Bryan does win, it's like, oh, my God. He finally chooses to believe harder.

[Damien Hosk]

But that's the thing. They start off the match every time with him being like, this time I'm believing harder. And you guys are the ones who fueled this movement, the. Yes. Movement of positivity. And I was like, yeah, yes. Like, so that moment's already there. He has to get close sometimes for us to be like.

[Ian Hecox]

I thought he got close a couple.

[Damien Hosk]

Times for, like, one minute out of the 30 that he was just getting his wish.

[Ian Hecox]

Rocks. Look, look, Damien, we're wrestling fans.

[Damien Hosk]

I know. I guess we are now, but I was like, damn.

[Shane Todd]

That's how it happens.

[Damien Hosk]

It's. It's not like a rivalry thing. It's not a back and forth thing. He's just getting bullied.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

I don't know.

[Ian Hecox]

I will also say, like, I know, like, that they plan it out, but, man, they do actually get thrown the hell around.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

There's some stuff where I was like, that definitely could have broken. And there was a couple times also where they, like, those wrestlers would, like, walk off, and you're like, that guy's actually hurt.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

That person got messed up.

[Shane Todd]

And the craziest thing is then they get in a plane and fly to a different town, and they do it the next day.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, they literally have something tonight.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

After that show that we saw last night.

[Shane Todd]

I don't know how, like, they are, without a doubt, like, athletes, but they're all.

[Ian Hecox]

They're all, like. They're all really nice people, and they're all huge nerds.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

Is what blows my mind. Every single wrestler that I've met has been really, really sweet. Like, sweet people.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

And they're dorks. Like, we talked to. Who was the wrestler that we. Or the guy.

[Shane Todd]

Xavier.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, Xavier. Yeah. But we were also. We were talking to Up, Up, down, down about Dark Souls and everything.

[Damien Hosk]

Yes. Adam Cole. Is that the name?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

Or no. I can't remember. It looks like he could be related to you and Tanner.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, But.

[Ian Hecox]

But they all, like. They all love video games. They. A lot of them love anime comic books and stuff.

[Shane Todd]

I mean, because if you think about it, all those guys grew up as wrestling fans. They were. They were fans themselves.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Todd]

And then they had a dream to become wrestlers, and they were one of the many. Few that actually made it right.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

But, yeah, New day. All those guys are love. Total, total nerds.

[Damien Hosk]

Such nerds. It's funny because Matt Rob has always told me there's, like, such a crossover between smosh fans and wrestling fans, and I've always believed it, but never in my life have I gotten so many tweets and messages at the same time from a single event. Like, people have seen stuff before and been like, I've seen you on this thing. But, like, my feed was just flooded with people being like, is that you're behind the announcer?

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

So I liked as many as I could.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah. Yeah. Smosh wrestling fans. We out here.

[Damien Hosk]

Are you. Are you a wrestling boy?

[Shane Todd]

No, I think I'm on the same pages as y'all, where it's just I don't know a whole lot, but I can, I can appreciate it.

[Ian Hecox]

A part of me wants to watch more of it, but it's the same with. For me, it's the same with like, NBA where for the past couple years I've been like, God, I want to watch more basketball games. It's just hard to add. Another thing to be a fan of when I'm like, I just don't have the time. Like, I'm a huge. I love TV and movies and. And football. And I'm like adding another sport. I just.

[Damien Hosk]

I just can't, like, ongoing.

[Shane Todd]

There's like a storyline that you do. Like, you really. Basketball. With basketball, it's like, like, oh, did they win or did they lose? Yeah, who scored more points? Did anyone get injured? And there you have it. That's your update. But with this, it's like, well, this guy said this thing about him backstage, but what you didn't know is that her brother got beaten up outside the arena by this guy's friend.

[Ian Hecox]

And there's a lot to it because, yeah, it was so much. It was towards like the middle of the match when Brock Lesnar was throwing a bunch of people around. And then this guy, Drew McIntyre gets in, which everybody, like, knew and was like, oh, my God. And he gets in and they look at each other and Drew McIntyre goes, I've been waiting for this moment for a long time, you son of a bitch. And I'm just like, what, What?

[Damien Hosk]

What's this? Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

So I'm like, there's a lot going on. And then this guy, which everybody who watches WWE knows this, but all sudden, like the announcement of like, another contender and this guy named Edge comes out and everybody freaks the hell out. And I was like, who could see? Who is this? And Matt Rob was like, he's been retired for. Or he's been out for 13 years. I'm like, so you really have to be committed. Yeah, for a long time.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

I was like, bro, like football, you can hop into the next season and be like, okay, great.

[Shane Todd]

Brett Favre just showed up for him, like, it kind of did it kind.

[Ian Hecox]

Of low key happens.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

What it is. So what the cool thing about the Royal Rumble too is, you know, like I said, every two minutes someone comes out. So they'll put up a countdown of 10 seconds, like 9, 8. And then they don't show the person right away. You'll hear their signature intro music start, and then it pops up on scre screen. So it's this moment of just like, I Saw one of the announcer guys sort of look back at the audience to be like, oh, he's about to check our reaction. Someone big is coming. I know this. And then Edge's music starts. I forget how it goes, but you just hear the first couple notes and all of a sudden everyone's like.

[Ian Hecox]

But I gotta. I got. It's gotta be cool. Like if people like Matt Rob. I know goes to a lot of like the indie scene. Wrestling.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

And.

[Shane Todd]

And literally like craziness.

[Ian Hecox]

But he loves it. And he says it's even like he likes it even more in some ways. But. But like the guy who won the Royal Rumble, Matt Rob, was like, yeah, I saw him in a local wrestling match like two years ago. I'm like, that's gotta be cool. To watch people go from like, just seeing him in a small venue in LA and see them blow up to the national level. That's gotta be a lot of fun.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

To follow it like that, I'm like, that's cool.

[Shane Todd]

A lot of things to be a fan of. What are you guys. What are you guys a fan of right now in terms of books or movies or anything like that?

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, good question.

[Ian Hecox]

Ooh, just stuff. Stuff, stuff. You know, Damian was watching this anime that he told me.

[Damien Hosk]

And now you're pastor watch now.

[Ian Hecox]

I think I watched more because it's way up my alley. It's called Vinland Saga and it's just Vikings. It's literally. It's literally Vikings, like the. The History Channel show. But it's anime and it's very.

[Damien Hosk]

I can tell. There's like no magic, nothing special. It's like grounded. Like if someone gets stabbed, like, oops, that's it. Like it's a. Yeah. Which is cool. It adds stakes.

[Shane Todd]

It's pretty cool. Sometimes they stab people with them. Yeah. Stakes. Or make people out of them.

[Damien Hosk]

No. So you're thinking of Wempires. And that's already way too magic. It's not magic at all. No, no, no.

[Shane Todd]

Do they skip the whole. The not so good things that Vikings do? If you catch my.

[Damien Hosk]

What I can tell they don't know.

[Ian Hecox]

They don't show that stuff, but they don't. Like, all the characters are garbage humans. Cuz like Vikings, they're. They're all like, yes, I like killing.

[Damien Hosk]

There's like one or two people enjoy rooting for who are sort of like victims of circumstance without spoiling too much. And then everyone around it is just like, wow, what a massive gray area you occupy all the time. And I think that's what makes it interesting because you don't have that typical, like, this guy's the hero and we like them the most. But again, you're farther than I am. So I don't know. But Leif Erickson is literally a character that shows up in the first episode. Literally. It's like, hi, it's me, Leif Erickson. Or Leif Erickson. I don't know how to say.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

No, all the characters are brutal.

[Shane Todd]

Vinland Saga.

[Ian Hecox]

Vinland Saga. I recommend it.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Shane Todd]

All right.

[Ian Hecox]

And then Amazon Prime.

[Shane Todd]

Ah, damn.

[Damien Hosk]

And then you have Prime.

[Shane Todd]

I don't have Prime.

[Damien Hosk]

You don't have Prime?

[Shane Todd]

I don't have Prime.

[Ian Hecox]

You've got to be the only person I've ever met who doesn't have Prime.

[Damien Hosk]

What do you do when you need two day shipping?

[Shane Todd]

I go to a fucking store and buy it.

[Damien Hosk]

You leave your house?

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, and I don't have to wait two days.

[Damien Hosk]

I feel bad. So I have this All Might statue now on my desk. Little side note and all might is a character from an anime that we all love. I have a little statue for my desk and that's my first bit of desk decoration. And I went to a local comic shop to get it because I had seen it in their window before. So I was like, yes, support the locals. And I, when I showed up and I was like, hey, do you still have that all statue? They look at each other and they go, we sold it an hour ago. I was like, oh, well, Amazon. Yeah, it sucks. But I was like, man, that's too bad. Like, and they didn't do anything wrong. But I tried. I tried.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't, I don't buy things online. Maladdite.

[Damien Hosk]

Is it out of, like, principle, you just want to support local stuff or is it just, you know, it's just not your thing?

[Ian Hecox]

I'm often the same, but it's out of impatience. Like, I'll just run to Best Buy and get it.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah, or your local mom and pop Best Buy. Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

I'm not helping anything.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah. I don't know. Like, I just don't. I don't feel the need to buy things online. Literally the last thing that I bought online, which I don't. And I don't buy things online, but last thing I bought online. What were these movie posters there? Some people might have seen this, this thing on Twitter in the country of Ghana in Africa between like 1970 and 2000. Basically. There was. There was a lot of factors that led to this, but basically the government Banned printing presses to avoid dissent. I guess it was. It was hard to get, like, movie materials. There was these sort of mobile movie theaters that would go around to, like, the rural areas of Ghana and they would show movies. But since they didn't have access to the movie posters, they would hire local artists.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, I have seen this.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah. To paint movie posters. Thing is, they didn't always have. They didn't always, like, watch the movie or really know what the movie was. So sometimes they painted these posters and they look. They do not represent the movie at all.

[Damien Hosk]

That's awesome.

[Shane Todd]

There's one for Mrs. Doubtfire that I saw that has. It has Mrs. Doubtfire ramming a broomstick through a guy's head. And there's, like, blood everywhere.

[Damien Hosk]

What? Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

Awesome.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, so wait, so you got some of these?

[Shane Todd]

I read the article and I immediately went to ebay.

[Damien Hosk]

Of course you did.

[Shane Todd]

And bought four.

[Damien Hosk]

Are they, like, legit from that time?

[Shane Todd]

Yes.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, my God.

[Ian Hecox]

That's incredible.

[Shane Todd]

I bought one that was. No, these ones aren't as. They're not as funny as, like, the Mrs. Doubtfire one. Because those ones people scooped up already, but they're all original pieces of art, and they aren't because of the. I'm guessing the weather that, you know, printing on paper wasn't conducive to what they needed. So what they did was they stitched flower bags together and then painted.

[Damien Hosk]

Awesome.

[Shane Todd]

So it is a six foot poster.

[Damien Hosk]

What?

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, it's a six foot poster. Each of them. I got one. That's True Lies.

[Damien Hosk]

Amazing.

[Shane Todd]

Which I gifted to Finnerty.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, cool.

[Shane Todd]

Arnold Schwarzenegger's face. For some reason, the faces, they're not too good at the faces. They're good at, like, drawing muscles. And they're all different artists, but sometimes the faces just look bad. I. I got. Since Mari's a big the Rock fan.

[Damien Hosk]

Sure.

[Shane Todd]

I found one for Walking Tall.

[Damien Hosk]

Okay.

[Shane Todd]

Where Solid. The. The painting work is actually really good, but he looks a little Guatemalan.

[Ian Hecox]

Okay. Specific.

[Damien Hosk]

That's very specific.

[Shane Todd]

I got one for Matt Ross because I. I hit him up and I was like, hey, if you were to get some sort of movie memorabilia from these possible things. So I got him a poster of three ninjas.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, of course. You got that one. Yeah.

[Shane Todd]

And then I got Enter the Dragon for yourself for now. No, it is. It is Bruce Lee, like, doing a pose, and his face looks terrible.

[Damien Hosk]

Hell, yeah.

[Shane Todd]

And they spelled his name wrong, which is, like, my favorite part.

[Damien Hosk]

Is it B, R, U, S, E. Is that, like, what?

[Shane Todd]

No, they Did l, I, I. Oh. So okay. Not bad.

[Damien Hosk]

Wait, but you're telling me you did this online? Why didn't you support your local Ghanaian movie poster shop from the 70s?

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah man. Real, real low of you.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. Why don't you go to Best Buy and see what you can find?

[Shane Todd]

That's true.

[Damien Hosk]

Otherwise.

[Ian Hecox]

Unlike me who goes to Walmart.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah. That was a. It's just a funny. It's part prank because I feel like by gifting these they feel like they have to put them up somewhere in their house.

[Damien Hosk]

A six foot tall.

[Ian Hecox]

More of a curse that you put cast upon them.

[Shane Todd]

Yep.

[Damien Hosk]

How's that gonna work for you? You have a cat. I mean if it's stitched flower bags in a frame isn't gonna climb up a six foot frame.

[Shane Todd]

I never thought about that. See, you think about cat stuff. Yeah. Don't.

[Ian Hecox]

You could probably put it in it. You can get a six foot glass frame.

[Shane Todd]

Oh my God.

[Damien Hosk]

That's probably six feet.

[Ian Hecox]

Movie, movie posters come in and I mean movie posters are much smaller than that, but you can definitely get one. It'll cost a lot, but it's gonna be very expensive.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

But also if it's on the wall, like is a cat gonna look at that on the wall and jump?

[Shane Todd]

I don't know where I'm gonna hang a six foot movie poster in my house.

[Damien Hosk]

Yes.

[Ian Hecox]

It's gigantic.

[Damien Hosk]

I don't know. My cats have gotten a lot better about it. But they used to try to like climb up the curtains and Zelda is.

[Ian Hecox]

But the curtains go down to the floor. So if this is like hung up a little bit higher.

[Damien Hosk]

But how tall are his ceilings?

[Ian Hecox]

You've got. You could put it in like the, the stairway area probably.

[Shane Todd]

I don't want to look at it that much.

[Ian Hecox]

What have you done to yourself?

[Shane Todd]

It's a little cursed. Like they're, they're a little cursed.

[Ian Hecox]

Like cursed images.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah. Cuz, like cuz I, I just, I just gave it to Matt Rob and he's like, I had no idea how demonic these children's faces look on this poster. Like they like one kid's eyes are just black.

[Damien Hosk]

That's phenomenal. That sounds so cool though.

[Ian Hecox]

One of them. They could be cursed. You don't know.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

They've been around for a couple decades. That gives enough time for curses to be laid upon them.

[Shane Todd]

But I think it's just such a cool little. Because I like history stuff. So I think it's just like a.

[Damien Hosk]

Cool three ninjas historical documentary.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

One thing I really like this about you, Ian. You're excited about this thing, and you're telling us about this thing, and you ordered four of them, and you're like, so I gave this one to this person, this one to that person. Like, that's your instinct. You seem to be a very gifty man.

[Shane Todd]

I don't usually do gifts.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, I know that's wrong.

[Shane Todd]

Well, I'm usually. No, no, no.

[Ian Hecox]

Idiot.

[Shane Todd]

That's. No, I guess. I mean, I like to. Yeah. I don't know. Like, I. I saw it, and I was like, oh, this would be kind of a funny. I don't know how much I was doing it for me or doing it for them, because there is something really funny to forcing somebody to put a giant, terribly painted three ninjas poster in their house.

[Ian Hecox]

Matt Rob loves that shit.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah, Absolutely. Yeah. You know what you have to do now is schedule hangouts with them within two weeks and just be like, so where do you. Where'd you end up putting it? Oh, yeah. Rough.

[Ian Hecox]

That's rough.

[Damien Hosk]

Finity's got a family. I hope it scares them.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, I don't. I was like, would you want this? Cause I don't want to force it on anybody, but if they take it, they better damn. Well, what movie did you get him again? True Lies.

[Ian Hecox]

Okay. Yeah. Arnold Schwarzenegger's son is just terrified of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, Arnold's face is a little bit. A little bit messed up in the.

[Ian Hecox]

You watch that Jamie Lee Curtis movie? You know, the. The last thing I splurged on was. Actually. It was a. It was a couple weeks ago, I decided to finally get an Oculus Quest.

[Damien Hosk]

That's great.

[Shane Todd]

Oh, dude, I've been looking for that freaking thing. I can't find it.

[Ian Hecox]

You just have to order it, and it's.

[Damien Hosk]

So order it online.

[Ian Hecox]

So I ordered it a while ago, and. And by the time this pod comes out, it still might not have gotten. It's just. It takes a while. Like, it's like. You order it, it comes to you in, like, two months.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, I kept checking Best Buy.

[Ian Hecox]

No, they're never gonna have it. You have to order it from the website, and it's gonna take a minute. But I was just like, you know what? It's about time I get one, because I love it.

[Damien Hosk]

You've been talking about it, and I'm.

[Ian Hecox]

I think it's. I think it's that fear of becoming the person who's home alone in their apartment just in VR, day in, and we're not.

[Damien Hosk]

Not on the quest either. It's not very good. You made the wrong choice. I'm kidding.

[Ian Hecox]

The quest is like a very like it's arcade game type stuff, which is so. It's very temporary games, but like super hot. I could play for hours.

[Damien Hosk]

Totally.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

But that's okay. Like, and also.

[Ian Hecox]

No, I know, I know. I'm just like, you know, I remember.

[Damien Hosk]

When PlayStation VR first came out and I would go over to Joe's place. We got a mutual buddy named Joe. Hi Joe. And he's not listening. And we would just play like Fruit Ninja for a few hours. Like it was a lot of fun.

[Ian Hecox]

It's dumb fun, but that was, you know, it's pricey.

[Shane Todd]

It's like 400 bucks.

[Ian Hecox]

Something like that. Something like that. Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

But great.

[Ian Hecox]

I love that stuff.

[Shane Todd]

It's a lot cheaper than buying a different kind of VR thing and having pay for the PC that goes.

[Damien Hosk]

Exactly.

[Ian Hecox]

And I like it because I can travel with it. Yep. Like if you're staying in a hotel somewhere, I'm like, just pop that on.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, baby.

[Ian Hecox]

Really cool.

[Shane Todd]

Bring that on the. Bring that on the tour bus.

[Ian Hecox]

I mean, I know I'm not gonna have it.

[Damien Hosk]

I wonder how that motion will work with you being on a tour bus. I wonder if it will consider that you're moving.

[Ian Hecox]

No, I don't think so. Maybe I think it has to do with like, I think it bases it all off the floor that you then connect it to. I don't know. I don't know.

[Damien Hosk]

I don't. That's my one thing that's holding me back from VR. I would want to get one of the ones attached to my computer because I do do gaming stuff on my PC, but like I don't have room and even so like Mark has a quest. Matt's. Matt's brother, my roommate Mark, he has a quest and he'll just chill with it downstairs sometimes. But even then I'll like be down there and I'll have to be like, hey man, you got a cat coming at your feet in a couple seconds. Know, just like, don't step on my cat daughters.

[Ian Hecox]

I think as long as you have like a good like 8 foot square area, which I barely have, then you're fine because you can set it up for.

[Damien Hosk]

But there are those other ones that you have to set up and they have like sensors in the corners of the room. So literally maps up space.

[Ian Hecox]

That's a lot.

[Shane Todd]

That's what I want.

[Damien Hosk]

That's fun.

[Shane Todd]

Too much.

[Ian Hecox]

The quest is just simple enough for me and I'm Also ordering it. And a month later, Animal Crossing comes out.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh my God, I can't wait.

[Shane Todd]

You're obsessed with Animal Crossing.

[Damien Hosk]

I mean, we talked about this on the trip. Shane, what are your thoughts on like siblings and Animal Crossing?

[Ian Hecox]

Okay, so I have a. This, yeah, funny little dumb animal crossing story. I was talking about when her. It was yesterday where I was talking about Animal Crossing and how I've been obsessed with that game series since I was young. When it came out for GameCube, nobody really, not many people bought it back.

[Damien Hosk]

Then, like, at least not states away. There I was waiting to be your.

[Ian Hecox]

Friend playing Animal Crossing, Arizona. I was the only person I knew playing it. And I was like, maybe I was like 11, 12 at the time. No. Even younger. No. Around. Yeah. But anyways, I remember playing it and my friends coming over and being like, what's this game? And I was like, so you are, you're. You're a guy and you move to a town where all your neighbors are animals and. But so you're in debt and you have to fit. You fish and you can pick up fruit and if you, you, you can do favors for your animal neighbors, and if you do that, they might give you wallpaper. If you describe Animal Crossing is the dumbest game, but it's somehow the most addictive game on the planet. And nothing happens. Nothing happens. There are zero stakes. Less, Less stakes than Minecraft.

[Damien Hosk]

I think it paved the way for games like Stardew Valley and things like that. I mean, obviously Harvest Moon came before all of it, but like casual games just to have an experience. I think sometimes we lose track of what a game is supposed to be and, you know, nothing wrong with those, like, really intense, really serious games. And there's PvP and all that stuff, but it's just nice to sit down and be like, oh, my neighbor might give me wallpaper. Like, I remember when I was a youngster, I had that like ability to connect the Game Boy advance to my GameCube. And I also had that like e reader. There was like a card reader for it. And I bought one pack of Animal Crossing cards and I would spend like a day swiping the same card so that Bruce the Eagle send me a stereo system, which I figured out was the most expensive thing that a friend could send me. And then I would just make a crap ton of money and be like, time to like make my own museum in my house. No stakes, nothing mattered.

[Ian Hecox]

You just do whatever you want. Yeah, Yeah. I love the games. We have to collect stuff. They get Me, they're satisfying. Yeah. There's a good lineup of video games this year, man.

[Damien Hosk]

Yes.

[Ian Hecox]

And there's. We got a break right now, but Animal Crossing comes out.

[Shane Todd]

I'm so sad Cyberpunk got delayed.

[Damien Hosk]

I know. I'm glad.

[Shane Todd]

But I'm. But I'm glad. I'm glad they're doing it, but. Well, okay, this might be a calling it.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, we call it calling it. Calling it.

[Shane Todd]

All right, sorry.

[Ian Hecox]

What's your calling it?

[Shane Todd]

My calling it. Cyberpunk is going to be a letdown.

[Ian Hecox]

So. Dude, I planned my calling it. My calling it is that Final Fantasy 7 Remake is going to be a letdown. Oh, I think. And I'm. I'm. I'm hoping it's a jinx, but I have a feeling Final Fantasy 7 Remake is going to come out and people are going to be like, you know, we should have just let it be a classic. That's going to be my fear. And I don't think it's going to be bad. I think it's going to be mediocre. I think it's going to be like just like same level or a little bit worse than Final Fantasy 15.

[Damien Hosk]

I'm going to jump on both of Yalls calling it and you're going to.

[Ian Hecox]

Say they're both amazing.

[Damien Hosk]

Not quite. No. I'm not that, not quite that contradictory. Final Fantasy 7 is set up to fail no matter what. Because I can think of no other game that is remembered as fondly as that. Like, it's literally like, what's your favorite band? The Beatles. Like it's. What's your favorite game? Well, this, this, this. In Final Fantasy vii of course, everybody has such good nostalgic memories of it. And even if you don't, if you never played it, you've heard about so you know how good it is. So with this remake, there are going to be changes. The gameplay style is completely different. You are also no longer 8 years old in your room during summer break and have all day to play it and just get lost in it. It's going to be different. The battle system from what I can tell is more like Final Fantasy 15 or like a Kingdom Hearts. Whereas we were used to that turn based strategy thing which is also not a format that works in the modern day.

[Shane Todd]

Oh, it's very much.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah, it's real time. Like it's literally moving in 3D. And you know, there's. They've shown things in the trailer that aren't quite, you know, familiar from the past games. So like, I think it's going to be a great game, but I don't think there's a single damn thing that they could do to please the fans. So I think it's going to get good critic reviews, it's going to get horrible audience reviews and it will be a good game. That is calling it.

[Shane Todd]

I think that's. I think that's pretty.

[Ian Hecox]

That's fair.

[Shane Todd]

I think it's a pretty decent call in it.

[Ian Hecox]

You think Cyberpunk is going to be like. I don't know if I can get on that just because the footage that, that 40 minutes of gameplay that I saw looks so impressive. But it's. There's a lot of factors. I mean it could be bad that.

[Shane Todd]

40 minutes while I sucked up every moment of it. I was not. I was not impressed.

[Ian Hecox]

I also have a hard time believing that the people who made Witcher 3 could make a bad game.

[Damien Hosk]

There's one major.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, sorry, what?

[Damien Hosk]

There's one major difference there. Witcher has so much book lore to go off of, which is. Is interesting. But.

[Ian Hecox]

But isn't Witcher 3 completely their own story?

[Damien Hosk]

Yes, but they built it off of that kind of stuff in the first place. Cyberpunk has. It was like its own DND kind of deal. So they have like lore books to go off of, but not stories necessarily. But. Sorry, I cut you right off.

[Shane Todd]

I really like the writing of the Witcher. I thought that was. I thought that was really fun in the game. I thought, you know, there's well written characters. It seemed like Cyberpunk is just. It's. It's coming off like, like really edgy where, like, ah, I gotta get this gun. Ah, fuck you. And if it just. It just seemed. It just. It's just coming off a little, A little too like edgy where. I think maybe when Cyberpunk comes out, if I was 17, it would be my favorite game. But I feel like it's not going to have the same kind of adult appeal as, as the Witcher. And I feel like the reason it got delayed and who knows, but I think they've created such a massive game. They're loading a game with stuff.

[Ian Hecox]

I'm worried it's going to be too complicated.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah. And. Or just, or just. There's just a. There's just going to be a lot of stuff, a lot of tasks and it's. And it won't be focused enough to deliver like a good, A good interesting narrative. And when a game promises too much, like you could do anything, you could do this, you could do that, like, I think a good example is like, dx and sorry for the people that don't play video games, this is going to be too annoying, maybe. But for dsx, like, they had the same kind of thing where, like, you could do anything. Like you could go stealth, you could go. You could hack, you can just go and shoot everyone. There were open world elements to it, but a lot of the missions were sort of like hallways with. With alternate routes where it. It was a little bit more focused right in the gameplay. I'm just a little. I'm a little worried that we're just going to get a game that has a lot of stuff and has like some good stuff in it, but a lot of monotony.

[Damien Hosk]

That could definitely be a drawback. But I could also see it being an advantage. And actually hearing you say that is something that's gotten me a little bit more excited about the game because I. First of all, I'm a little biased. I really like fantasy settings. So if it is the Witcher, if it's Skyrim, you feel like you're able to just. I want to be in this world, this forest, and there's dragons and caves with treasures. This is like a city setting. It's metropolitan, it's cyberpunk. So that could be one thing that turns me off about it. But if they do make it more, if they are going to go off of the sort of DND aspect of it and you are making kind of your own character in your own story, there are aspects of like, Fallout and Skyrim, which are pretty universally loved games that have that kind of stuff where you can do anything, but there's focus within it. Like Skyrim, it's just like, you can join the Dark Brotherhood or the Thieves Guild or the. You can become a Shield Brother and that kind of stuff. And you can do all of it if you want. But, like, might be the kind of thing that we keep remaking characters and being like, okay, this one I'm going to play all Fifi. And if that's the case, I think it'd be great.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, you're totally right. Because I think I'm also just trying to hype myself down because I am very hyped up. Yeah, it's been hyped and do a lot. I fuck so hard with. With cyberpunk, like, style, like really altered.

[Damien Hosk]

Carbon, not my thing at all.

[Shane Todd]

Blade Runner, like, oh, my God. God, just pump that into my veins.

[Ian Hecox]

So there hasn't been really like a big game in that type of setting.

[Shane Todd]

Well, there's DSX kind of.

[Ian Hecox]

Right.

[Shane Todd]

Like they, they kind of skitter along that. That line. And I was like, yes, baby, yes.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, hopefully we're wrong, but I hope so. If we're right, that means Last of Us Part two going to be Game of the Year.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. Or Animal Crossing coming out.

[Ian Hecox]

Animal Crossing will never win Game of the Year, even if it is.

[Damien Hosk]

The problem is that anybody, anybody who's going to be playing it is not going to want to leave their console for long enough to vote for it.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Todd]

So I just want to know when the next strand type game is going to come out, you know? Yeah, let's see that next strand type game.

[Damien Hosk]

Video Game Gima Video Game Gym.

[Ian Hecox]

A lot of people who played that game really defend it. Spencer defends that game.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

Wholeheartedly.

[Damien Hosk]

Games are just not for everybody all the time. So sometimes the same thing where you're like, wow, this is art. And I'm really enjoying it. Someone might be like, this isn't it at all what I thought. I think that's some of the difficulty that comes with like the enigma that Hideo Kojima creates around himself. If you guys don't know that's the person that used to do all the Metal Gear Solid games, because when you're trying to be like, we don't even know what this game is yet, you're going to whatever, then people make up in their own minds what they want it to be and when it's not that you're going to please a very specific and small group of people.

[Ian Hecox]

It makes me. It reminds me there's so much content out there that I realize I don't ever allow myself to play a game that I know is considered bad going into it. And same with TV shows. But I think it's why the Witcher did so good was because it was finally a show that was popular enough and everyone was watching it. It's not like critically acclaimed great show, right? It is. It is.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah. It is. For Wishy Washy on it.

[Ian Hecox]

It's not. But it also is a very imperfect show. But that's kind of why it's so fun. And it was finally like, loved. No, I loved it. But I hadn't loved like not great show in so long because I hadn't watched one because there's so much stuff. There's such a. I have such a large queue of shows that are apparently so good.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

That I gotta keep watching it. But they're. They're also like very similar in style where it's like very Slow paced and subtle, whatever that I'm like, I don't get to watch something that's like a popcorn thing or play a game that's also like not perfect, like every now and then.

[Damien Hosk]

That's why I enjoy Danganronpa so much. Because the people who love it, flippin love it. But like its reviews are like good, but it's not like 10 out of 10 perfect game. It was like none of my friends play this. Except for Kevin. Now what's up Kevin? We're gonna talk about it. But like none of my friends play this. It's not something I'm gonna connect with a bunch of people on. It's just for me, you know, came out a few years ago. It's not the coolest thing. I can't. Yeah, but that was the Witcher.

[Shane Todd]

The Witcher was the biggest surprise for me. The Netflix show, I mean man, it's.

[Ian Hecox]

And it's, it's. I think maybe by this time the pods come out, it's the most like the most watched first season on Netflix.

[Damien Hosk]

They also. There is a thing about that. Not to poo poo it, but they. Netflix changed the way they started reporting their numbers. It used to be like a certain percentage watch now it's like if you watch two minutes of something, it counts as a full view because nobody accidentally watches two minutes. So. So, you know, it is. I think it did do better than Stranger Things, but it's sort of the same kind of thing where like 80,000 becomes 1 million and it's the same statistics.

[Shane Todd]

Also Netflix completely controls their own statistics and they don't share them with anybody. So they can say whatever the hell they want for publicity purposes. Sure.

[Ian Hecox]

But anecdotally everyone I know who watched it loves it. People are obsessed with, with it and it was really. It was a different viewing experience than I've had in a while. Yeah, it was like. It was, it was fantasy. Fast and the Furious.

[Shane Todd]

I will say though, wow. I will say though, that dragon stuff.

[Ian Hecox]

That that episode was my least favorite.

[Shane Todd]

But, but like the talk Talk, it felt like it.

[Ian Hecox]

It felt like an 80s TV show with better graphics.

[Damien Hosk]

Felt like Dragon Heart.

[Ian Hecox]

It literally was like. It's like, what's up? I'm here. I'm the main guy. I'm gonna have sex with women. And it's just kind of like awesome.

[Damien Hosk]

Cool, man.

[Ian Hecox]

Hell yeah. I'm down for this. This.

[Damien Hosk]

I am the last dragon.

[Shane Todd]

That was, that got. I was like, well, you know what?

[Damien Hosk]

The show is still figuring itself out and I don't think season two is going to be anything like season one because of the way the story is going. And I'm excited line is going, so I'm stoked. I'm excited, too. I just think, like, I think it was them throwing a lot of stuff at the wall, being like, even if 75% of these episodes are winners, we got a good one on our hands.

[Shane Todd]

And that sword fight in the first episode is dope.

[Ian Hecox]

It's insane. Still want them to make a Metro Metroid TV show?

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, someone told me about the other day. It was. They, like, in chat, said, check out the Metroid, the movie on YouTube. Apparently someone did, like, a fan version of it, and it's literally what you're talking about.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, cool. Hell, yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

I haven't looked at it yet, so it could be wrong.

[Ian Hecox]

I don't know. Probably the worst.

[Damien Hosk]

Probably a lie. Probably everyone probably got 100 views. The camera and his cats dressed up in an orange jumpsuit.

[Shane Todd]

I mean, a lot of those. A lot of those fan. Those fan movie things are just like.

[Ian Hecox]

I have a hard time with them sometimes.

[Damien Hosk]

Sometimes they're great.

[Ian Hecox]

I respect. I respect, respect. Like, the work that he put it.

[Shane Todd]

To, but then it just come. Sometimes it just comes off as like, a weird, like, awkward cosplay thing.

[Damien Hosk]

Speaking of Altered Carbon, really quick.

[Shane Todd]

Altered Cabron, what's up?

[Damien Hosk]

So by the time. By the time this podcast comes out.

[Ian Hecox]

That'S actually really funny.

[Shane Todd]

That's what Matt. Matt would say, like, just for.

[Damien Hosk]

Anyways, that comes out, technically the new season. Season two comes out out a week after this podcast comes out.

[Shane Todd]

Altered Carbon comes.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, that's right. And it's with Captain. Well, I've never.

[Damien Hosk]

I didn't watch season one. I'm sorry.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, there's a. But there's a new. Like, this isn't spoiling.

[Shane Todd]

There's a nude. There's a new carbon.

[Ian Hecox]

There's a new carbon. Oh, you need to watch. Oh, but are you gonna watch that show?

[Damien Hosk]

I will. I mean, but like you were saying, there's just so much to watch that, like, when people are like, oh, my God, marvelous, Ms. Maisel. I'm like, yeah, I hear it's the best show ever. I don't have time. Like, what about you? I hear it's an amazing show. Don't have time. Like, I'll get to it. I will.

[Shane Todd]

Listen if this entices you. There's a fight scene where a guy fights a bunch of naked lady clones.

[Ian Hecox]

Actually, it Actually, I forget because there's been so many shows since that. But that show was awesome.

[Damien Hosk]

I remember being at Defy really first came out.

[Ian Hecox]

It also. It just changes a lot. Like it's a very different type of show.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah. There's one actress in there that is straight up garbage. Like, like really bad.

[Damien Hosk]

Like, call her out.

[Ian Hecox]

But it really. It really is like Sci Fi Witcher in a weird way. But I. But I think it's.

[Shane Todd]

I do think it's a time.

[Ian Hecox]

I do think it's a smarter show.

[Shane Todd]

It's interesting.

[Ian Hecox]

There's a lot more to it. And I just think it's also just really cool. Like, there's a lot that I thought.

[Shane Todd]

It'S a fun world that they built.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Todd]

Sort of like commentary on class warfare and stuff.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

Speaking of which, maybe too much of a jump, but does anyone know when the next Westworld is coming out? Because I love.

[Ian Hecox]

It's supposed to be this year a lot. And it's got Jet.

[Damien Hosk]

Hell yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

Mr. Mister. Mr. W. Mr. White Bitch. Oh, yo, what's up with all these? I didn't sign up. I didn't sign up for all these androids. Mr. White. No, no. You got yourself into this. I'm getting out before all this.

[Shane Todd]

Buy my Mezcal.

[Damien Hosk]

Buy my mezcal. March 15th. March.

[Ian Hecox]

That's so soon.

[Shane Todd]

Oh my God.

[Ian Hecox]

Hell yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, y'all are never gonna see me Again in March 2020's 2020 is the year. 2020 is the year I can see clearly.

[Shane Todd]

Didn't go to war with Iran yet.

[Damien Hosk]

Well, we don't know when this is going to come out.

[Ian Hecox]

We don't. Every day is different nowadays.

[Damien Hosk]

Also, for your anime fans, this year we've got the Demon Slayer movie coming out. Promised Neverland Season 2. And in the fall, Attack on Titan, I believe the final season.

[Shane Todd]

Okay, I have to ask. Our anime movies ever good?

[Damien Hosk]

Nope. But this one might be because from what I've heard. Well, I don't want to say anything. From what I've heard, this one has potential to be good.

[Ian Hecox]

The cowboy bebop movie was really good. But that's also kind of different because.

[Shane Todd]

It'S like it doesn't have. They never have like any bearing to the animes.

[Damien Hosk]

Like a side story.

[Shane Todd]

Right.

[Damien Hosk]

The My Hero Academia one I watched very recently and like, it was very corny. But it's also the kind of thing where it's like, hey, we're headed to this island where no one's allowed to have contact with the outside world because of specific reasons. Oh, so we're not going to be able to Talk to any of these people after the summer's done. Done. Nope. And then they show up and like all their friends are there already. It's like, what are you guys doing here? We got summer jobs. Now we're part of the story. And it's just like they breeze right past it. You're done. That's. It was crazy.

[Shane Todd]

That's so. That's. And that's like the funny thing about not just anime, but also I think like Japanese live action is like the shows. The shows are so much more popular than the movies. Like. Like, like movies aren't really like a big, big thing there as much. Like, like movies have always been held to a higher standard than TV up until recently in the us but it seems like it's always like whenever it's like an anime movie. Like it's a movie offshoot. It's just kind of like an extra thing to make money on. And it's not an essential part to the actual.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, budget wise, it's technically only like three episodes of a TV show.

[Damien Hosk]

That's true.

[Ian Hecox]

Like it's just. It's not like it's different. It's just like length.

[Damien Hosk]

They'll often blow the budget on like one major fight scene. I will say I think it was last summer I saw Dragon Ball Super Broly. I was invited out to an event and that was awesome. That was a lot of fun. It was like a big ass episode. But the fight scenes were fantastic and didn't have that much of a bearing on any sort of story. But it was still just like, hey, this is a grand old time.

[Shane Todd]

But that Death Note liveaction movie though, right?

[Damien Hosk]

That starred Laser.

[Ian Hecox]

Never saw that.

[Damien Hosk]

That dude looks like Laser. I also never saw it.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh.

[Damien Hosk]

Apparently they're doing more of a run manga wise. And I think therefore anime of Death Note. I heard that that was announced. But also it's sort of just like isn't that story all set?

[Ian Hecox]

Death Note. Death Note also fit perfectly in the time it came out. Yeah, it came out of the peak of emo culture and that just. It just fits so hard. Like it fit. Death Note sums up 2007. Like it really was the vibe. That was the vibe of 2007. It doesn't fit in 2020.

[Shane Todd]

I love death Note. That. That was like the first Death Notes incredible. First anime that I. That I really watched. Aside from Pokemon.

[Ian Hecox]

It's not. It's not sold. It's not advertised as it should be because it's kind of sold. Like they, they the advertisements or the like, showings of it are very, like, lean into, like, it's demonic and dark. I'm like, no, it's a detective story. Yeah, it's the coolest detective story you're ever going to watch. Yeah, it's Sherlock. It's an ep. It's like the coolest version of Sherlock.

[Damien Hosk]

Where you like the characters on both sides, too. On the one hand you're like, I want this person to get away with it. And on the other hand, you're like, get him, get him. Find them out. Is this the moment?

[Ian Hecox]

It's. There's nothing frustrating than when you watch a show and the show is different than how it looks to a serious degree. And you try to explain that to people and they're like, not that show. And you're like, no, no, no, no, no. It's not what you think it is. You need to watch it.

[Shane Todd]

Also, it had two seasons and it was.

[Damien Hosk]

Does.

[Ian Hecox]

That's how anime. Well, anime is either 26 episodes or 5000 million episodes.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah, we're looking at you one piece.

[Shane Todd]

But it was great that you can just watch this thing, see a great story, and then it ends in a satisfying way rather than just slowly burning out.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah, I respect that. It's the same thing with, like, reboots and live action stuff like Arrested Development. The first three seasons, I think it was one of the funniest, most well crafted pieces of television ever. And when it was like, people were like, oh, it's coming back. I was like, no, please, no. It was so good when it was flying under the radar. And then season four was hot garbage. And then they made another one. It was also hot garbage. And I. It's so sad because things become a parody of themselves and it's like, tell us the story you want us to see.

[Shane Todd]

It became kind of meta. It's became meta.

[Damien Hosk]

And also all the actors were unavailable to film with one another, so they were like, what if everybody has their own separate stories? Like, great. That's not what the show is. It's dealing with a crazy, messed up family forced to be stuck together in a situation. It's not even the same show.

[Ian Hecox]

Nobody. Nobody learned from Avatar Last Airbender. Yeah, perfect. Three seasons, perfect arc.

[Shane Todd]

Never saw it.

[Ian Hecox]

Never watched Avatar Last Airbender.

[Shane Todd]

No, bro, I don't know. That's the M. Night Shyamalan. Oh, yeah, right.

[Ian Hecox]

No, no. God damn it. No. That show is. That show holds the up. Yeah, yeah, it's great.

[Shane Todd]

Wouldn't people argue? That's not anime.

[Ian Hecox]

It's. I'm not saying it's anime. I'm just saying it's a really great.

[Damien Hosk]

But aggressive development is anime. We can rest the development.

[Shane Todd]

It's the ultimate anime. The got all the tropes.

[Ian Hecox]

But that is also why shows that get canceled are held to such a high degree. Because it's like, they went out.

[Damien Hosk]

Firefly.

[Ian Hecox]

They were great. Firefly.

[Damien Hosk]

Firefly.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, Firefly had a movie that was better than the show. Surrender Serenity's dope.

[Shane Todd]

Is it?

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, that movie's dope. I saw it before I saw the show and I was like, that movie was incredible. And I saw it with my mom, who doesn't like sci fi stuff, and she's like, that was a really good movie.

[Damien Hosk]

That's why it all boils down to story. It's like, yeah, the setting can change. Yeah, there can be. You can be in space, whatever. But like, let's. Let's just have some cool stories. That's why I feel, you know, you know, it's not going to be for everybody. And I get sort of poo pooed a lot for being like, you talk about anime a lot. But it's also like some of the stories that I've been able to experience are just so cool. And I feel bad if someone is like completely writing it off to the point where they're definitely gonna miss out on a cool story just because they're like, no, it's all like Pokemon. And you're like, no, it's just a cool story. And they're not limited by what an actor can do or what CGI can do. You're just drawing stuff.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, it's no different than how Mandalorian on Disney plus is based off of Akira Kurosawa movies. Like, it's based off.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

Japanese samurai movies. Movies.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, some of them are. Some of them definitely feel that way.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Or Westerns and that. But Westerns. A lot of American westerns were inspired by.

[Damien Hosk]

Is it called, like, Lone Wolf and Cub or something?

[Ian Hecox]

Lone Wolf and Cub. There's also like, there's a couple. Oh, there's a set. There's essentially a Seven Samurai episode of Mandalorian.

[Damien Hosk]

Right.

[Shane Todd]

That. That episode was so pointless.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, it was. But they had Phil Space.

[Shane Todd]

Mandalorian is okay.

[Damien Hosk]

Just okay?

[Ian Hecox]

You thought it was just okay. I loved it. Did you watch? You watched all of it?

[Shane Todd]

Yep.

[Ian Hecox]

You. Even after that last episode, you felt.

[Shane Todd]

That last episode was awesome.

[Ian Hecox]

But overall.

[Shane Todd]

Overall, I mean, the way they made it was so that you didn't necessarily have to watch every episode. It felt like, and they were just like, so now he's gonna take a piece of all these other things that he did to have no connection and brings it all together for the last episode.

[Damien Hosk]

I think it's a preference thing because the same reason that you seem to be a little turned off by it. I loved that aspect because, because I, I may have talked about this on Pod before, so if I have, I'm sorry. But I enjoy Star Wars. But I wouldn't say I'm like a Die Hard fan. I don't get, like, mad when a movie comes out and it doesn't go where I want it to go. But I've always been a little bit disappointed by it because the formula is like, we're going to start out on Desert Planet. We're going to need this thing. Oh, you need that person and that thing. You're going to have to go to Swamp Planet. All right, now let's go to Swamp Planet. Let's go to this thing. And it ends up being so samey because they don't have much time to spend in each spot. So what I love about Mandalorian is, like, this episode takes place on Swamp Planet. What is there to explore on Swamp Planet? Oh, there's a village. What is daily life like in the village? Like, I've always wanted to be, like, go to the desert planet, but have them explore a temple. Have that be an entire movie, the temple that they find. And.

[Shane Todd]

When dude goes to the Swamp Planet and something happens and then he leaves Swamp Planet, it didn't change the story in any way. It didn't change.

[Damien Hosk]

He was just like, TV used to.

[Shane Todd]

Be like, he just brings Yoda there, and he's like, I can't keep baby Yoda here. All right, here I go. I'm off. Well, nothing happens.

[Damien Hosk]

Well, it did introduce him to some characters that need to come up later. It also shows that, you know, there, you know, someone might say, you know, why wouldn't he just drop off this person and have a safe life? And it's like, well, that is his first thought. Let's explore that. And we as viewers got to have an interesting contained story. It also showed him. This is, I guess, a lot of spoilers at this point. But it also showed, like, oh, he was maybe interested in some love, and he doesn't get to have that. He doesn't get to have that normal life. Like, he's tempted with.

[Shane Todd]

Why are you making me like this show more, Damien?

[Damien Hosk]

I don't.

[Shane Todd]

Stop it.

[Damien Hosk]

I, I, I, I viewed one of my favorite episodes.

[Ian Hecox]

I viewed it very similar to, like, to Witcher, where I'm like, this is just, like, a fun. Yeah. Show. Like, we've gotten to this point where there's. Because there's so much. Where we're, like, we are ranking TV on such hardcore elements. And Breaking Bad was kind of the start of it, where it's, like, it's got to have foreshadowing. It's got to, like, all mean something, every single element of a TV show. Whereas, like, shows like Witcher, Mandalorian. Right. I'm like, this is just awesome.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, that. Why did that happen? Because it's awesome. And I'm like, I'm totally fine with that being the reason. And I'm also just kind of stoked for us to be completely done with the Skywalker Saga, because every time a movie comes out, half of the world hates it with a.

[Damien Hosk]

That's not what he would do.

[Ian Hecox]

And, like, with Mandalorian, you can't have those opinions because it's all new characters that we can't have. So I'm like, let's please never touch on the Skywalker Saga ever again and just make new.

[Damien Hosk]

Sure.

[Ian Hecox]

New characters that everyone can just be down with.

[Shane Todd]

I love how angry people get about it.

[Ian Hecox]

People get a lot. It blows my mind, people. Star wars fans are so much angrier than I've ever seen. Football fans, like, it's insane.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

It's nuts. And, like, I really. I can't think of another fan base that's like that. Because, like, Star Trek fans are all kind of, like, very cool with all of Star Trek. And, like, there's stuff that they'll be like, oh, yeah, that series was terrible. But, you know, it's like, whatever. Like, they're not that mad about it. Whereas Star wars fans. Holy God.

[Damien Hosk]

I feel like sometimes, like, they. There's. I. There's a little bit of pity there, I think is maybe the right word, where, like, you know, if someone's toxic and going after one of the actors, screw them. I don't care. Like, get them out of there. I don't know. To really love a thing so much that it, like, defines you, but to also never be happy or satisfied. It's like, it's like Pirates of the Caribbean. It's like, we can eat and drink all we want, but it tends to ash in our mouths. I'm like, that sucks. Like, is there any part of this thing that you love, that you actually love?

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

And I'm not, like, making fun of them. I'm like, that's just kind of legit.

[Shane Todd]

I think it's sad. I think it's also like a lot of these fans, there's this feeling of like, but I am the real fan. I read all the books, I know all the lore. So I know Star wars and this is not Star Wars. And it's like, well, but it is because somebody wrote it and then they fell and now it's Star Wars.

[Damien Hosk]

I try to, like, put myself in their shoes and like, I love Dark Souls. I love that series. So if they made a Dark Souls TV show and instead of it being like all silent and somber, they had like a wise cracking, like, almost Nathan Drake's Tale, like, whoa, sorry, I had to drop in kind of character, I would really hate that. But I also wouldn't be like, no, no, no, no, sir. It's not that. It's like, it's okay to be like, you know what? That's not for me. And it doesn't take away the aspect of this that I like.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

You know, I more like orange, stout and smug. Am I right?

[Damien Hosk]

Losers to the three people. In the comments, I just, yeah.

[Shane Todd]

Just remembered I was a huge, like, Mass Effect fan.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, yeah.

[Shane Todd]

And then I saw on. On like Hulu or something, there was like a Mass Effect anime movie.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh.

[Shane Todd]

And I tried watching it and it was hot fucking garbage. And then so I was just like, I don't need to watch this. Turn it off. And I haven't thought about it since. Yeah, I didn't like go attacking and say like, this is not real magnificent. You wouldn't do this. It's just like, I was like, nope. Yeah, no, thanks.

[Damien Hosk]

How about that? That it's not for you. And also, like, you see little kids at Star Wars Land now getting lightsabers made for themselves. It's for them. It's always been kind of a corny series. Like Han Solo taps a stormtrooper and then sneaks around like, it's supposed to be a little bit tongue in cheek.

[Ian Hecox]

Sometimes, but, you know, and like, look, to call myself out, like, Game of Thrones was the thing that I was the biggest fan of, but it also wasn't like my day was ruined because Game of Thrones, the final season was just so even. The difference between Star wars and Game of Thrones, I will say, is there was stuff in Star wars that, like, people were so mad about Last Jedi because of decisions that were made as opposed to them just clearly not caring. But that didn't mean that I'm like, not a fan of it. Anymore. I'm just like, yeah. Oh, it's. I can openly say I thought something sucked and not be, like, angry about it.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. The conversations we had were like, well, what's really cool. And what I wish they would have shown was in the books, they sort of allude to this, and I thought that would have been a really cool storyline to see, as opposed to, like, this isn't real Game of Thrones. You don't really know the real thing. Like, I do.

[Ian Hecox]

I'm also not mad at people who liked it.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

I'm just like, yeah, whatever. I thought. I just was like, oh, man, that sucks. I wish it was better.

[Damien Hosk]

Like, I wish I liked it. Like, isn't that lucky that they get to like it, that they got to feel like that ending was satisfying, Cool. Good for them?

[Shane Todd]

I mean, it's.

[Ian Hecox]

The difference there, too, is we also still have the books that.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, I guess I will say Mass Effect, Andromeda was. It was a big letdown for me. I'd say that's. That's more on the company than it is the.

[Ian Hecox]

The product.

[Shane Todd]

That was a disappointment, but the parts.

[Ian Hecox]

That you're still a huge fan are still there.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah. And I didn't go online and. And start trashing them. I'm like, I don't think this was a. Was a finished product. Product.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. No. Not many people set out to make something bad. Like, and they're definitely not doing it to spite anyone.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Shane Todd]

And also with. With something like. With something as big as Star wars, they have so many. So many hands in that. In that.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, they're probably making it. They're. They're probably. What sucks is part of their process now is trying to avoid the hate which ends up making. Causing them to make decisions that cause more hate.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. Yes.

[Shane Todd]

And I would also say that these movies now have to be made with an international audience in mind. So you're like, where Star wars was originally made by, you know, an American with American tastes. Movies now have to be made with international tastes in mind. People that maybe care more about an action scene than a story. Not that I'm saying that non Americans are dumb and they only like to see explosions.

[Damien Hosk]

Damn.

[Shane Todd]

But action is a lot easier to translate. Translate to other. To other countries than. Than maybe dialogue.

[Ian Hecox]

There's also. There's also people. People. There's different things. Like I said, a lot of people, like, want the TV shows and movies to, like. Everything has to mean something. There's got to be deeper. It's like, yeah, but also it's Also, maybe it's just supposed to be entertaining. Like, it's that tough balance.

[Damien Hosk]

Fun.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, it's that tough balance. But also, like, my thought with all of it is, like, there's just so much content out there that I'm not gonna harp on one thing, man. Man, there's just a million. I've gotten in this loop again. I find myself every year at some point where I'm. I. I'll text Dame and be like, man, I really want to, like, play a video game or watch a movie or something. I'm like, I don't know what to do. And I end up not doing anything because I'm like, there's too many choices.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

Like, there's too much good stuff.

[Shane Todd]

There's been so many times that I've left my Netflix just, like, on.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Todd]

Been on my phone and just like, yeah, it happens.

[Ian Hecox]

It happens a lot.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah, it's always. I find it's always interesting what you gravitate toward, because we do have that conversation a lot where it's just, like, you know, I think we kind of got spoiled by specifically Skyrim things, like, where you could just get lost for hours and hours. We want that experience, so we'll check in and do that. But I'll. I'll say to you, like, hey, why don't you try this? Or, why don't you try that? And sometimes you don't, which is normal and fine. Sometimes you'll try something. Like, six months later, you'll be like, so I did finally pick up Persona 5, and I'll be like, whoa. And then other times, I'll just casually drop, like, oh, I heard a new Good show is a Vinland Saga. And then literally that night, you were farther than I was. It's just funny, like, what we gravitate towards.

[Ian Hecox]

Random.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Shane Todd]

Strange tangent, Damien, you look a little swole, bro.

[Damien Hosk]

Oh, thank you, man.

[Shane Todd]

What's up with that?

[Damien Hosk]

Well, I've just been making healthier choices. Even if I haven't had time to go to the gym, I've been, like, making a specific effort at home. Like, all right, push ups, sit ups, dips. Some 100 push ups. One. Oh, yeah. One Punch Man.

[Shane Todd]

Why don't we do the One Punch man workout?

[Damien Hosk]

I would love that. Well, the weirdest thing about the One Punch Man. So there's an anime or manga or whatever where this guy, like, is the strongest hero in the world, and he's depressed because of it, because he can beat anything in one punch. And so he's just sad. Nothing's fun anymore. There's no challenge. But his. The reason he got that way is he does 100 push ups, 100 sit ups, 100 squats, and then a 10k run. Isn't the 10k run kind of a big leap between the others?

[Shane Todd]

10K runs actually not 6 miles.

[Ian Hecox]

That's not that.

[Damien Hosk]

Like, everything else is. Like, it almost sounds like a joke. Like, oh, 100 push ups, that's it. Oh, 100 sit ups, that's it. Then a 10k run is just like, oh, that's. That's going to take some. Some time.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

I don't know. But 100 push ups is a lot for a lot of people.

[Shane Todd]

100 push ups is quite a lot.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah, fair enough.

[Ian Hecox]

It's a setup, but it's a super normal. To me, it's the perfect workout because it's like, it's enough to be like, yeah, you're someone who's getting in shape. Not enough to be like, I'm gonna become a superhero. Like, it's not Batman's workout routine.

[Shane Todd]

Have you tried it, Shane?

[Ian Hecox]

No.

[Shane Todd]

I mean, so you don't know.

[Ian Hecox]

We could do it. Let's do it.

[Damien Hosk]

Let's do it.

[Ian Hecox]

It's definitely, it's definitely a workout. If you're training for a half marathon. Yeah, like, that's a solid workout. If you're like, yeah, I'm going to do a half marathon in a couple months. Like, okay, do that. But that's what's funny about it, that that's how he became the strongest human on the planet.

[Shane Todd]

I said, we just do this forever and see how wacky our bodies look.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

With like, look wacky, you just be like a. In good shape.

[Damien Hosk]

But you'd have very specific. Like, your back wouldn't have any sort of definition.

[Ian Hecox]

No.

[Damien Hosk]

You would be very, like, built in.

[Ian Hecox]

You'd want to add 100 pull ups to it.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. But even pull ups, like, you know, it does this motion, but like, there's no like, forward pull.

[Ian Hecox]

Like, no, it's not a complete workout.

[Damien Hosk]

It's not. Anyway, thank you. Been making healthier choices. Been exercising. I'm down, I think technically £10. I think I said that before, but my scale was not on a. Thank you. My scale was not on a proper surface. So that was a problem before. But I think I'm down to 196.

[Shane Todd]

Hey. Went down below the 200 mark.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. Which is good for me. If I could get to like 186, I'll be happy then. Yeah. And then I'll just Continue building from there. But for me, it's more about being healthy as opposed to the number. But it's nice to know that that, like, I can see that number and be like, oh, there is a difference things I have.

[Shane Todd]

Goal post.

[Damien Hosk]

A goal post. Yeah.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

I want to gain. I want to gain weight.

[Damien Hosk]

That's awesome.

[Shane Todd]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

I want to bulking season. I want to gain some muscle.

[Damien Hosk]

Nice.

[Shane Todd]

Where?

[Ian Hecox]

I don't know. Just everywhere.

[Damien Hosk]

One peck.

[Ian Hecox]

I want to gain, like, 10 pounds.

[Shane Todd]

I think 10 pounds of muscle.

[Ian Hecox]

I love to hit 180.

[Damien Hosk]

You could do that easy.

[Shane Todd]

Where are you going to fit that muscle? Where's it going?

[Ian Hecox]

There's plenty of places.

[Damien Hosk]

One peck.

[Ian Hecox]

What? Both my buttocks.

[Damien Hosk]

Singular packs and one and the other one buttocks.

[Shane Todd]

Can you just. Can you just work the. What is adults? What is this right here?

[Ian Hecox]

I forget.

[Damien Hosk]

Trapezius.

[Shane Todd]

Just work your trapezius. Yeah, get that swallow neck. Can I sing for you?

[Ian Hecox]

I want to do a. Yeah, cuz I want to do that. Cuz I want to do a spartan race this year.

[Damien Hosk]

Okay, so I. The as we're filming this, the podcast where we had said that originally just came out. So that gives you a bit of a timeline. And so a lot of people were saying, you know, whoa, the spartan race is the as hard as they come. Like, we were talking about tough mudder and stuff like that, but some people in the comments were like, no, Spartan races, like the hard one. Like, it's a lot of military exercises.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, I think Wes and. Wes and Mari have done it.

[Damien Hosk]

Yeah. But they're both very fit people. Wes is pretty in shape.

[Ian Hecox]

We have more months to get into it.

[Damien Hosk]

I don't know, man. I got. Look at bronchitis. I want to go to bed.

[Ian Hecox]

I'm gonna do it. Okay, well, I'm gonna do it. Kevin's gonna do it.

[Damien Hosk]

I'll join you.

[Ian Hecox]

All right, we have. We have time.

[Damien Hosk]

We have my punch workout.

[Ian Hecox]

We have time to do the one punch workout.

[Damien Hosk]

Is there one that starts, like, by my house? And also, can I use. Use a vehicle to win the race?

[Ian Hecox]

Dude, if you're getting into shape, you can do it.

[Damien Hosk]

Sassy. I'm being a sassy boy.

[Shane Todd]

I want to know. So. So the San Diego one. I'm not saying this is the one we're doing. It's a 5k with 20 obstacles.

[Ian Hecox]

That's not bad. That's not bad at all.

[Damien Hosk]

5K. There's got to be a 10k fail an obstacle. We gotta do something crazy. That's the thing.

[Ian Hecox]

No, not at all.

[Damien Hosk]

I've heard, like, if you fail an obstacle, you have to do, like, a bunch of things.

[Ian Hecox]

How would they be keeping track? There's thousands of people doing it.

[Damien Hosk]

Like, a guy shows up, he's just like, all right, you didn't climb up the wall. Now you got to kiss me. And you're like, whoa, I don't know about that. He's just like, I. I definitely work for this race.

[Ian Hecox]

I'm Mr. Spartan.

[Damien Hosk]

I'm Mr. Spartan.

[Ian Hecox]

I'd want to do something more challenging.

[Shane Todd]

How about the. Okay, how about this one? New Jersey. This one's the Tri State Jersey Ultra and Beast Weekend. Okay, the Ultra.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, God.

[Shane Todd]

Is a 50K.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, okay.

[Shane Todd]

60 obstacles. This is fastest time time, seven hours.

[Ian Hecox]

That's an Iron man competition. That's. That's. That's.

[Shane Todd]

All right, all right, fine, fine. We'll just do.

[Ian Hecox]

I'm talking, like, I'd love to find, like, a 10 mile. I'd love to find, like, a 10 mile.

[Damien Hosk]

Sure.

[Shane Todd]

The Beast is a half marathon.

[Ian Hecox]

10 mile, 10 mile, 10. Like a half marathon, but with obstacles would be dope. That's pot. That's very doable.

[Damien Hosk]

Does anybody else chafe when they run? And the sound of your thighs scraping together is so loud it hurts.

[Ian Hecox]

You're in such good shape by then, it won't happen.

[Damien Hosk]

And then there's sparks flying everywhere.

[Shane Todd]

Beast is a half marathon. Marathon with 30 obstacles. Doable, three hours. Fastest time.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, that's doable.

[Damien Hosk]

Fastest time, three hours.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, that's totally doable. Think about how awesome you'd feel once you did that.

[Damien Hosk]

I feel great, but I also feel pressure. Like, I'm gonna be the one that everyone's like, you good back there?

[Ian Hecox]

And I'm like, you have months to, like, put. Put yourself.

[Damien Hosk]

Like, as we are going on tour and we're going to Australia.

[Ian Hecox]

This would be in. We'd have months after Australia.

[Shane Todd]

These obstacles have to be tough because I did. Because this is a half marathon. I did the marathon in 3 hours and 28 minutes. So these.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, so I know also. I know also. The point of Spartan races is that you do an obstacle and then you turn back and you help people.

[Shane Todd]

You.

[Ian Hecox]

None of the obstacles are singular obstacles. They are teamwork obstacles. So you'll, like, climb up a wall because people helped you get up the wall. Then you're supposed to turn back and help other people get up the wall. So you're. You are taking your time at these obstacles because it's. It's not that. It's like, oh, it took forever to get up that wall. It's like. No. I stayed for 15 minutes and helped people.

[Shane Todd]

Okay. So the super is 10K, 25 obstacles, 80 minutes, fastest time.

[Ian Hecox]

Okay, we can do that one. If, if that's. If we can get everyone on board. Whatever, whatever we get the most.

[Damien Hosk]

I don't want to drag nobody.

[Ian Hecox]

No. Because there's other people. If I want to see who. I want us to get the biggest smosh team to do this. So we're all together.

[Shane Todd]

I mean, that's, that's a little over six miles.

[Ian Hecox]

That's. Yeah.

[Damien Hosk]

That sounds to me like an achievable.

[Ian Hecox]

Goal also, if we make a video, if we make a video out of it.

[Damien Hosk]

Well, there is. You go.

[Ian Hecox]

Then that's, that's easier to film.

[Damien Hosk]

That's true. Yeah. We've got to have like one incredibly like willing camera person to also carry a camera rig and jog alongside us like a Kevin.

[Ian Hecox]

I do, I do at some point want to run a half marathon though.

[Shane Todd]

Let's do it.

[Ian Hecox]

I would like to do that at some point.

[Shane Todd]

It's not bad.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, it's definitely doable. I, I, I trained for one once and I was doing it and the person that I was running it with couldn't, couldn't finish it. And I was like, okay, I'll, I'll stop with them. But I was, we were halfway through and I was like, I was good. I was like, I could have finished that so well. But I was, I was like, no, I'm not gonna do that and leave.

[Shane Todd]

I did, I did one that went along the beach. I saw dolphins. That's awesome. The race ended with tacos and beer. Great.

[Damien Hosk]

I would probably vom. But that sounds cool.

[Ian Hecox]

Trained. Not if you trained, man.

[Shane Todd]

I went, I took two of my friends and one of them was not prepared and he, he hated it.

[Ian Hecox]

He was tough.

[Shane Todd]

So pissed.

[Ian Hecox]

My, my brother and my sister in law, this was like 15 years ago. She's a runner and she runs all the time. And so she trained for this half marathon and my brother decided did not train for it. And last minute was like, yeah, I'm going to do it too. And they get to the final stretch and he's like, I'm not going to let her beat me. He just kicks and he push and he pushes it. He like beat her at the last second. But then he was better bedridden for a week. And she was fine. She was fine. No, he just didn't train for it. So his muscles weren't prepared for it. So he destroyed his ego. Destroyed his body.

[Shane Todd]

All right, so we'll look. We'll look for a spartan race type race to do. Okay, we're doing it. We're gonna all get on board.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, we're gonna.

[Shane Todd]

You're gonna be so cut by then.

[Ian Hecox]

2020. Smosh. Smosh Crew gets absolutely jacked. Yeah, we're getting. We're becoming titans this year.

[Damien Hosk]

We're gonna be ripped comedians.

[Ian Hecox]

We're gonna be all enjoyed. Everyone's as buff as possible. Yeah, Jimmy, pull that up.

[Damien Hosk]

We're gonna have Elon Musk on here.

[Shane Todd]

Guys, we gotta start hunting elk, like, tomorrow.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, exactly.

[Shane Todd]

Bow hunting.

[Damien Hosk]

I ate camel the other day.

[Shane Todd]

What?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, dude, we got a great pot.

[Shane Todd]

We gotta finish this pod.

[Ian Hecox]

You bring this. You bring this up now at the end of the pod.

[Shane Todd]

We'll get. But we'll. We'll get to this next time because I want to hear about this, and I'm not gonna.

[Ian Hecox]

Damian ate a camel.

[Damien Hosk]

Camel. Some camel.

[Ian Hecox]

All right, some camel.

[Damien Hosk]

A whole camel. That's a lot of camel.

[Shane Todd]

All right. We'll get to that next time. Thank you guys so much. We got some new merch in the store, guys. Check it out. Smosh store. None of us are wearing it, so you gotta go there to find out what it is. It's really cool. Damien, Shane, thank you so much for coming on here. Bros like we Bros like we.

[Ian Hecox]

Bros like we ra.