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Shane
Ramble.
Keith
I didn't know how this was gonna happen. I knew that one day it would happen. I didn't know when it would happen or if it would even happen in my lifetime. But we're here. We are here. And we can see the light. I feel the light. I feel it. I feel change happening.
Jackie
This shit needs to go on. It's like, yeah, last week was hard. It's like, we're gonna have some hard months.
Shane
These people are hurting and now they're getting kicked while they're down by the people that they're up. That at.
Jackie
It's all real up.
Shane
Dude. I got cheesy and my teeth still hot.
Jackie
My mind, oh God.
Shane
You know when it get stuck? Stuck in the back of your mouth.
Keith
Like, oh, yeah, you need some water. You need to sip.
Shane
I did.
Jackie
You need more until it's dissolved. Suck it down.
Keith
Suck it down now. Suck it down now.
Shane
Suck it down. Wait, Jackie, can you sing? Are you able to sing? Not like, can you sing right now, but like, do you sing?
Jackie
Yes.
Keith
Let me. Can we hear something?
Jackie
No.
Keith
Okay. Okay.
Shane
Well, yeah, we did go still. We did go dark last week. Last week was pretty crazy. And the week before that was even crazier.
Keith
A revolution's going on, y'all.
Shane
Yes.
Jackie
And it's amazing. And people are scared. And I love it. I love it.
Keith
Jackie, please hold on. Why? Why do you love it? Why? Okay, explain why you think people are scared of why you love it.
Jackie
I think there's just like every time someone is like, I'm so overwhelmed. I'm learning so much. Like, this is so sad. I'm just like, welcome. Yes. Yes. Come into this consciousness together. Like, I just watched the Matrix too, which is like, also super fitting.
Shane
Dude, there's been so many movies have been coming up like that I've been watching that somehow tie in really well. Like, I've been obviously watching documentaries and stuff to like, educate myself, but also like, I randomly Watched the Joker and it's like, oh, there's hella protesting in this movie.
Keith
Yeah.
Shane
It's crazy.
Keith
Yeah. This next level.
Shane
Yeah, but keep going.
Jackie
Oh, no, it's just like. I mean, the Matrix is all about, like. I mean, Neo is, like, breaking out of the Matrix, right? And, like, this whole set of. I mean, let me not try to, like, actually explain the plot of the Matrix right now. Let me stop myself, because I will go down that train. But it just, like, if you watch the Matrix and just, like, then breaking away from the Matrix, it feels like very much like what's happening to a lot of people and just kind of starting to question, like, the systems that have been in place and like. Like thinking about, like, the system. And it's weird because it's, like, to think about the system being broken, and it's. The system's been working as it should, and it's just trying to actually change the system right now, which is, like, a weird thing to think about. But some of it's super heady, and some of it's very just like, this is just the shit that's happening right now. But it's also just like, yes, I'm also like, come bring your tears over here. We'll cry together. But also like, yeah, but it's a lot.
Keith
This is the amount. The amount of unity that I see. I've been talking about it all week to my mom, my family members, like Sumner Squad, the people. There are more people standing in the gaps that aren't black, and that's why it's working right now.
Jackie
Yeah.
Keith
And I feel that every. The. The gaps are being bridged. I've never seen anything like it. My mom's never seen anything like it. It's such a beautiful thing to see unity. I'm like, well, damn. Come on. Look, y'all late, but come and get some. Come get some.
Shane
Like. Yeah, being late, like, that totally makes sense because, like, this stuff has been like the. Yeah, keep going. Sorry.
Keith
It's been going. It's been going on for so long, and, you know, it's. I mean. But rather late than never, honestly. Rather late than never. And I feel like I was. I've been to so many protests within the last. I want to say, a couple of weeks, and I was just waving. I remember waving just like this at one point. And it was because it was for me. It was for me. I was having fun out there. I'm like, man, this is, like, for me. This is for my people. This is for George Floyd. This is For Breonna Taylor. This is for everybody. Like, this is for people that look like me. Like my family, my. My cousins, my. My brother, my dad. You know, Like, I. I didn't know how this was going to happen. I knew that one day it would happen. I didn't know when it would happen or if it would even happen in my lifetime. But we're here. We are here, and we. We can see the light. I feel the light. I feel it. I feel change happening. Because so many times nothing changes. You know, you go through the motions. You know, the. The cops don't get. You know, they don't. They don't have the same accountability that black people have, and it's just crazy to feel a difference. Like, I feel that I was walking with one of my black homies during a parade, and he was like, I can feel it. I see it. I see it. Like, we just seen everybody, like, screaming and, like, making some noise. Y'all, these protests are peaceful. I mean, don't let the media, like, misconstrue what's really going on. These protests where I go peaceful, the looters and the riots. Such a small percentage of what's going on. Such a small percentage, y'all. I could talk about this forever and I could cry. So if I cried, I know I'm just like, yeah, Keith, yeah, let me lip bug. I started talking so much, my lip done got white. Oh, God.
Shane
Was this your first time protesting all for everybody?
Keith
Yes. Mine. Jackie wasn't. It wasn't yours, right? I think you.
Jackie
Yeah, so, like, I. The first protest that I participated in wasn't was when I was in college when Trayvon Martin was murdered. And so, like, part of our, like, our black Student union, we, like, protested on campus, and it was, like, obviously, like, super peaceful and everything, but this was the first time, like, I was telling you guys, like, this is the first time that I've ever, like, gone out into my city and protests. And it was just like, I think when. I don't want to say when everything started happening, but because, like, that's. It's been happening. Like, let's say recorded. Yeah. Like, let's say, like, Memorial Day. But, like, I feel like Memorial Day was, like, the last, like, straw, right, with George Floyd being murdered. And this is. It was just, like, the first time I've gone out and just been, like, in this, like, in the streets.
Keith
And, like, I was.
Jackie
Yeah. Out in the streets. Just, like, out there. And I was just like. And the first one. This is the one we all went to together. It was like, kind of nerve wracking because up to that point point, there had been a lot of, like, police brutality at the protest. So there was like. It was like, I want to be out there and I'm doing everything I can, but I just like, I. But then you're sitting at home and you're like, so just anxious because you're like, I've given all the money I could give. Like, I've signed all the petitions I can sign. And there's always more, and there's always more to do, but it was just like, I was like, I just need to go. And being. And the fact that we're also. This is all happening, like, as you're in a pandemic is also. It's just like, how.
Shane
What.
Jackie
What it's like. And that was like a lot of my fear in going out initially, but it's just like. I mean, not that it's not still important, but just. It's like, I still have to, like, I was like, okay, knowing that this is happening. I still have to go. And it was honestly the best thing for my mental health to go. It was just like to be surrounded. And I last. In the last week, I've gone to four different protests because I was like, this is great. I love this. I love to scream. And it's just like, there was one protest I went to and it was in Pan Pacific park in la. And it was just. And it was. It was the day after Breonna Taylor's birthday, and it was led by black women, and they had like all of these black women speaking, and it was on a Saturday. So, like, everybody, like, so many people showed up and it was just like. And I. It was just like, everything I didn't know I needed. Just being surrounded by so much community and just people that are just like. I mean, like, in like, improv and stuff, it's like we always start a show with like, I got your back. And like, really feeling that and being in that space to the point where it doesn't feel like this entire burden is on you. Because when I was at home, I just felt like I don't. Like, I have to do it all myself, right? And it's. And. But like, being there, I was like, no, like, there are people that want to help and, like, letting them help and just like, letting them support you and like, letting them carry your weight and everything. And that was just like. It was so beautiful. And then we marched it. I was like, I've never walked this Much in my life marches.
Shane
Yeah.
Jackie
I was like, I've walked, like, 10 miles last week. And I'm like, who is she? I don't know.
Keith
Can I say this? That's another thing. Marching and being out, like, out there in the streets is not for everybody. There's different ways that you can, like, show your solidarity and stand with us. I mean, you can donate. There's so many different foundations and fundraisers and different things going on that you can donate to. It's some people, social media, still a great, like, tool.
Shane
Everybody has their role.
Keith
Everybody has their role. And don't feel bad for not being out there. It might not just be for you. Like, honestly, like, we. I have. You have to take that into account, because a lot of people said, I want to go out there. But, you know, I just. You know, my parents don't want me to go. Like, first of all, respect your parents. You live there. You know what I mean? Like, we don't want you kicked out in the streets like that. Like, stay home, do what you can. Figure out different ways to do it, even if it's just like a sign, you know, that you, like, I don't know what.
Shane
Yeah. Signing petitions.
Keith
Be creative. Be creative. There's so many different ways to show your. Show your support.
Shane
And it's.
Keith
And we see. And we see you. We see you, we see you, we see you, and we love you. We love you. Thank you, guys. We never felt like this. We've not felt like this. I was asking my mom the other day, this kind of messed me up. I was like, yo. I was like, have you ever gone to a protest? And she kind of got defensive, and she was like. She was like, well, we were going today, but we didn't see. I said, no, Mom. Like, answer the question. Have you ever gone to a protest? And she was like, no. I said, mom, you have to go. I said, it's one of the most beautiful feelings. I said, this is for you. This is for us. I said, you're 52 years old. I said. I said, I know you feel like it was this. It's been too late, or, you know, like, why now? Or you feel like you're late to the party or whatever you want to say, but, like, you just never felt led enough to go. And that's okay because that's your truth. That's where you are. That doesn't mean you don't support the movement. Like, we are black. We are all of that. We feel it. We feel everything that, you know, everybody's feeling. Right now. We've been feeling that for years. You felt it for 52 years. I said, just promise me one thing. You'll just go to. To 1. I said, just find one. Just run into one. Just like, even if you're in the car and you're just riding slow with these people just saying their names and just, like, just go, there. She was just. She started crying. And I'm kind of crying, and, like, I had a little drink, so that might have been making me cry because I'm a thug. I don't. I don't. I really don't cry that often.
Jackie
Yeah.
Keith
Cut to me crying, like, a lot. But no.
Jackie
Right.
Keith
We've all seen it. You've heard it. But no, it's just she. I think. I don't know if she's gone yet, but I know the way she was crying. I know she's going to end up going to one and she's going to start crying when she goes to the. To the protest as well. My mom's a crybaby. That's where I get my crybaby syndrome from.
Shane
That was a really cool experience for a first protest for me was when we went to the hall of Justice. I got to just be with a bunch of people I care about and couldn't have asked for a better first protest. Like, I. And it just. It frustrated me because I'm like, I should have been doing these things, like, for so much longer. Like, there were women's marches that I was really close to going to, but I was afraid just because, like, back then, women's marches, like, there was never any videos of police brutality. Like, the videos. There's, like, threads of, like, hundreds of videos of this stuff happening that, like, we've all been, like, sharing like crazy. And that was the reason. Like, that's what I felt. That's when I felt the pole. Like, the most I've ever felt in my life. Because it's like, these people are hurting, and now they're getting kicked while they're down by the people that they're upset at. Yeah, Like, I. I just real fucked up. Like, really, cops, when you're under a giant magnifying glass, is when you're going to still do this stuff. Like, are you serious?
Keith
Because there's no accountability. And when there's no accountability, why do you have to stop doing it? You know?
Shane
Like, well, there's cameras now.
Keith
So there's been cameras, and there's just been no accountability. And the fact of the more that we protest and stop, stick and stay in these streets, like, after we get done with this today, y'all, and, like, we write some stuff. I'm trying to find one. Like, I'm trying to find a protest somewhere. And I might even change my clothes. I want to feel good while I'm doing it. That's the thing, y'all. It's a sense of pride going on that I've not had for my black ass. I just kind of want to take out my damn braids and just have my fro like, just here. Just want to, like, poof it the whole time. Like, I just want to walk just like, what's up, everybody? Like, at these protests, y'all, like, people are passing out waters. Like, every second. They kind of get annoyed. Like, you want a water? Like, now somebody just gave me a water. I got, like a whole box of waters right here. And I get out my face. But it's just like the love in the air. The love in the air, y'all. I'm telling you, the media will make you think something is, like, bad. Like, yeah, don't, don't. Y'all, the media, there's. They. They paint a. They paint a certain picture. They need to sell a story.
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Keith
I was there. I was in it. We, like, up for it. Even my first protest, Like, I was afraid at first because of what the media said that was going on out there. Courtney, we talked about it. I was like, courtney, when you get out there. Because I had gone out a few times before. Courtney, I was like, don't worry, you know, like, you're going to be good. She, you know, she was like, being honest and being transparent. She was like, you know, getting a little anxious. I said, it's cool. Like, it's not what you think. Like, you are protected. You are safe there. You know what I mean? Nobody's going to let anything happen to you. You know what I mean? Like, everybody's, everybody's on your side in these, in those, in those situations.
Jackie
Yeah. There definitely are like safe like things. If you do decide to go to a protest, just like, like re. For. For anybody that's like, I want to go like, read up on it.
Shane
Yeah, yeah.
Jackie
Read up on like what you need to prepare to go to a protest. Cuz like, like make sure you're not in like, just like bright ass clothes. I don't know.
Shane
And like, and like flip flops. Like.
Jackie
Yeah, like.
Keith
Oh yeah. Wear some, wear some sneakers. Wear sneakers.
Shane
Sneakers.
Jackie
Like I. It was, it was. It's like, it's funny, but it's not funny. Like, so honestly the only way that I've been able to get through like the past couple of weeks is with like my sense of humor. But it's like I had, I had written down some emergency contacts onto a piece of paper and just like slipped it into my bra just in case like some shit happened. But then I realized I forgot to tell my emergency contacts that they were my emergency contacts.
Keith
So if you call from jail.
Jackie
Yeah. The next day, I was like, hey, hey, just as an FYI, I expect you to get my ass out of jail if that. If some shit happens. Like, just like, just like want to let you know, just conversation. But I mean, nothing I've gone to is like gotten like that. But I have had some friends that have been shot by like rubber bullets or they've been.
Keith
Oh, really?
Jackie
Yeah. And that.
Keith
Well, how they say it feels not good.
Jackie
Uh, it's not. Yeah, no, the rubber bullets. Like there's people that have like lost eyes.
Shane
They're saying that, well, they were designed to be shot at the ground and bounce up and hit your legs to get you like moving like that.
Keith
They're just like.
Shane
And they're point blank like headshots like, honey, this isn't Fortnite. Fucking stop.
Keith
Like, come on. Like, who would think that going to peacefully protest, you're going to like leave with like just one eye. That's not cool. Cool. That's not cool. It's not cool. Like, I mean, I wouldn't want to lose my eye in a situation like that. I'm going to peaceful, like peacefully protest. Oh, just to think, like I come back and my eyes gone like, no, no, I ain't going for it. Something's not adding up. Yeah, I mean, we need a little bit of accountability. Sorry.
Shane
Even as we were leaving that first protest that I went to, I'm so glad you guys have been able to go to more. Like, I had to. I had to go and get tested for Covid, just in case, because we were gonna be filming, like, with a small crew at the studio soon, and, like, us protesting kind of had to postpone it because they wanted to be extra safe. And that was, like. It was a whole thing. But we're ultimately, like, everything's all good, and we're glad we did it. But, yeah, I tested negative for Covid, so that's cool.
Keith
Congrats. That's.
Shane
A bunch of us got tested. Yeah.
Keith
And, you know, Courtney, honestly, thank you for coming. Like, you and Shane, when you. You guys come and stood with me, like, you don't understand that it meant the world. It meant the world. It honestly meant the world. And it was. I was telling Olivia, you know, Olivia's been out there more days than even I have. You know, she started protesting before I did, and I just did. I didn't expect any of you guys to be out there the way that you were. You know, I just. And to see the. The love and the support, and I feel it off. You guys didn't have to do that. You guys didn't. We've known each other for so long, and you did, and I'm just grateful. I'm grateful to know you guys. I'm grateful that we could experience history together, you know, because you guys have seen, like, even, like, me there. Like, how, like, I had to go through it there as, like, the only black guy. So just for you guys to even stand in the gaps for me there, just to, like. I guess everything came full circle for me, and probably for you, I feel like. I don't know. I don't know.
Shane
I would say, like, well, of course. I think the whole thing was like, this is just. It just felt too important. Like. Like, for me, I mean, I was doing everything I could. It was a slow start at first because, like, I wanted to be, like, you know, careful and like, that I'm. I'm putting out the right information. But it got to a point where I was like, I'm. I'm signing petitions, I'm donating. I'm sharing stuff. And it just didn't feel like I was really, like, putting my money where my mouth was. Like, I. I was like this. And then especially just seeing people getting mass arrested. I was like, we're losing people out there. Like, we're going to need more protesters. And, like, I have been happening to buy boxes of, like, disposable face masks and, like, gloves. So I Was like, I can. I can help these people while we're also like all together fighting for this thing. So, like, yeah, there was a few days where I was texting Keith. I was like, please, like, I want to go. I don't know. I don't want to go by myself.
Keith
Yep, she definitely did. Definitely.
Jackie
I mean, I was texting you too. Like, I was like, yeah, I was.
Shane
Like, we're gonna go to this one.
Jackie
How about this one? Like this one maybe this one?
Shane
Yeah.
Keith
Oh, man.
Jackie
It's interesting though too, like, thinking about ways to get involved because there's some. There's some ways that like my. My friends, they've been volunteering with. What's the name of it? They've been volunteering, basically help people that have been arrested. Helping them like get like due process and stuff or whatever the correct term is for it. But it's like that's another way to show up and like volunteer with different, like, like different like groups that are. Yeah, it's like, it's like the protests and it's like, well, what happens if people get arrested and like all of these other things? Or it's like the people that are at the protest just like handing out snacks. Like, that's like. There's so many ways to get involved. And I think too, like the thing that I'm as. As we like kind of like move. Move through this movement. Like, I think also thinking about it as like a full on marathon. Like, this is. It's like there is like urgency. Right. But there's also like this has to happen for a very long time.
Shane
Yeah.
Jackie
And I don't know. Yeah, like, I don't know the, the exact like, number, but I think it's like when Martin Luther King was assassinated, it was like they rioted for like, I want to say six. It's like six or ten days. And then they pass, like, then they passed law. But they had been protesting for like a whole ass year before that. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's like this is this. This shit needs to go on. It's like, yeah, last week was hard. It's like, we're gonna have some hard months and like, buckle up, everybody. Like, we gotta like, you know what I mean? And so it's also like taking care of yourself and then like, like knowing like when you're like on social media, when you're not on social media and stuff and like taking breaks. Because it's also, I mean, it's like it takes a toll and it's like. I know for me, like, I was getting really upset in the beginning. One thing that was, like, getting me really upset and frustrated was, like, how people were sharing the video of George Floyd. And, like, I've. I've never watched the video in its entirety. Because I'm just saying, why are we, like, sharing, like, why are we sharing, like, this man being murdered? And why are we so easily able to share this man being murdered in this way? And it's just like, look at this video. Look at it. Look at it. And I'm like, yes, I understand the need to. Like, this video needs to be seen. Like, this video needs to exist. Because without this video, like. Like, if you can look at the fucking. Sorry. If you look at, like, the police reports and how. How they're reporting the shit that's happened, like, in these incidences. And, like. And then you have the video, like, it's so important to have these videos. But then you think about, like, how many videos there aren't. But then also thinking about, like, how easily people are just, like, sharing, like, black bodies being murdered and how desensitized people are to it.
Keith
Yeah. But also, let's realize that these people have families. Like, just imagine it being your personal family. Over and over, seeing it on the news, like, I put myself in that position. I was like, I don't, like, see it. No, like, the eight minutes. I don't need to see it. Like, I know what happened. I've seen, like, I know how the. How the end result is, but just imagine his family are, like, on the news, like, everywhere. Like, that is sick. That is sick. That is sick. It's not. Okay. I can't watch the whole thing. I've seen enough of it. I've seen the wrestling part. It's just like, I let it go. Like, oh, yeah. I'm the type of person that likes to watch fight videos on Facebook, but as soon as I see somebody, like, stomping somebody, I'm like, up. Gotta go. Gotta get out of here. Like, that's not like, he looked at him as less than. And it showed. It showed. He. He was up. The. The. What's the. The. The officer's name? Derek. Yeah, up here. He saw himself up here and, like, George, Floyd, down here.
Shane
And they used to work together, too, right?
Keith
I heard that. That's the.
Shane
They were, like, security guards together.
Jackie
Yeah.
Keith
It's so deep.
Shane
How do you go home after that? How do you go home after that?
Keith
Nobody could have wrote, like, shonda rhymes. Couldn't have wrote a Better plot. Do you. You know what I mean? Like, she could not have. That is next level. Next level. To do that to someone that you know as well. Like, I'm. I'm not saying you should do it at all. That's. I do not condone violence, but to someone that you know, I don't care if you got highs, had like a. A falling out or whatever. I don't had a lot of falling outs with people. I'll probably have some more. But I don't think to kill them none. No mercy, you know, and there's the same people that don't give mercy right now are asking like. Or kind of asking for mercy. And it's like, yo, we've not. You've not given it for so long. And the same thing keeps happening. Like, it is unfortunate that the looting and the rioting is happening, but sometimes it takes for stuff like that to happen in. For things to change.
Shane
Yeah, yeah.
Keith
And it's like, I'm not as. I don't support it. I don't condone that. I don't. But it's a part of the revolution.
Shane
It's like it's. And it's. A lot of it is just straight up people taking advantage of this movement, whether they are with it wholeheartedly or not.
Keith
100%.
Shane
Looters are looting.
Keith
Exactly.
Shane
Protesters are protesting, right?
Keith
Oh, man. The amount of people that are protesting. There's thousands of thousands and thousands of protesters. There are not hundreds of looters like at these events like that. They're not. It's not. The media got me, dude. Oh, Lord, it got me fucked up. Oh, this is my Southern woman. Oh, I don't know what's happening, but it got me fucked up. She's. Sorry.
Shane
But if you were to think about. Because like, if the whole protest that even we were at are like that biggest one in Hollywood.
Keith
Yeah.
Shane
That if all those people decided to loot, they would take down an entire city and that.
Jackie
But that's not happening. And also.
Keith
But that's not what they want. Not what.
Jackie
This is the thing. Fucking burn it all. Fuck it.
Keith
But this is the thing. Honestly, this is the thing. That's not what we want. And anybody that's making. And anybody that's making. If everybody is feeling like the. If the looting outweighs the peaceful protest, you are on the wrong side still. Like, you're focused on the wrong things. You worry about the wrong things.
Shane
There's a big.
Keith
So we can't say.
Shane
We can't say.
Jackie
To be honest. I Don't even know what song you're singing.
Shane
Okay, I like it.
Keith
We worry about the wrong.
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Jackie
You know, I've been making up songs with my friends though, like in our group chat, and it's like, okay, come on, look, what is, what was the one, what was the verse? I just, I just came up with. Some of y'all motherfuckers are truly silent and we're never gonna work together again. Some of you motherfuckers are too fucking silent and we're never gonna work together again. And it's like, is that silence? The silence is also. Fuck, that's crazy. Silence is violence. And it's like there are people that have. Haven't said shit. And it's like I, I'm. I'm seeing it and I'm like, do not ever talk to me. But like, if there was.
Keith
It's like, it's people that. And it's usually people that always have something to say, but their silence just like punched you in the, like the, the lip right here and it's busted. I feel it. I feel it. Silence is definitely violence. Like, yo, you usually got the most to say. Usually always online kicking it. You're fighting behind this cause that cause this cause and that cause and I'm, you know what I mean? Like, you know all of this and all of that, but right now you won't mode.
Jackie
It's like if you don't listen and learn.
Keith
And this is the thing, this is my thing. And my thing is like, listen and learn. That's one thing. But like have something to say. You always usually have something to say. And then like start the dialogue. The dialogue needs to start. You need to have the dialogue. And we'll see. That's the thing. The scary part is because people don't want to look racist and that's understandable. So they try not to stay in it. It's just like the dialogue has to start and I Mean, just, like, pick your words wisely. So, yeah, I don't know. I'm asking some people to jump in and just like.
Shane
Yeah, well, no, I mean, it's also, like, just having a good support system of people that you can trust to help you learn.
Keith
Like, 100, dude.
Shane
When I first started working here, I was a very different person. Like, you witnessed that, Keith. Like, it's not like I went from. It's not like I went from one side of the spectrum to the other, but, like, I've definitely grown a lot in terms of, like, knowledge.
Keith
100. 100. And awareness, because. And it starts with us working together, too. You know what I mean? Like, Courtney, we all. All of the squad, we came from different places, and, like, I'm sure having me as the black person in the cast and, you know, we had to do a lot. They. They had to learn a lot about what it is for me and what I go through and everything, whether it was spoken about or not, spoke unspoken. It was a. Definitely a lot of, like, learning on both ends, too, and how to work together.
Shane
Yeah.
Keith
Because it's like we are. We are a different type of people, I will say, then it comes with some. You know, it comes with heavy hearts sometimes and, you know, oppressed oppression and just a whole bunch of stuff that people just don't. Don't see. Like, we really deal with those things. And I've lived it, you know, working as much. I've seen certain things and, yes, you know, certain things that I felt that I just could not put my finger on.
Jackie
Yeah.
Keith
But, you know, like.
Shane
And then even things that I would witness happening to you from other certain people in the office being like, I don't even like that. Like, that is.
Keith
Yeah, it's just levels to it. And like, I was telling Olivia the other day, it's like, yo, like, there's, like, levels to, like, oppression as my. How I treat something and how I react to something is. It's how another black man that's living in Alabama reacts to this. You know what I mean? There's, like, certain privileges that I have, you know, that I have to utilize, and I have to understand my influence and who I am and where I come from and then also put myself in somebody else's shoes and be like, yo, you are me. Like, you know, like, you look like me. This can happen to you. It can happen to me. You got to put. You got to stand in the gap for your people at the same time. And that's what I've been trying to do because like, at the, you know, there's been protests for years. Never felt led enough to go out. Like after the first day, when the riots and everything, the looting and all that happened, for me to even want to go outside after that, like, it was kind of crazy. But it's been my. That was my first time going out, you know, and I just felt led to do it. I was like, I need to be out there with my people. Like, I need to be out there with my people. Like, and I know my people aren't there out there like, like looting and like all that. I need to be out there with the protesters. That is like. That's the bigger part. That's the bigger picture.
Shane
Yeah, that's the bigger picture.
Keith
That's the real stuff.
Shane
Every time I've tried to have conversations with people who disagree that they like, I realized pretty quickly, like, a lot of my followers on Instagram or Twitter think like, similar to me or the ones that don't are already being handled by the community. Like, so I'm not going to be in my replies.
Keith
Nuh. You stay.
Shane
You guys got it.
Keith
We gotta stay out of it. And this is the thing we have to like. I mean, as long as we have the dialogue. Dialogue going, we could. We should not join in the conversation more than what we say on our post because all we're doing is just. It's already said. We said what we said. We said what we said. I don't need to, you know it's true. Yeah.
Shane
I don't need to prove anything to the followers.
Keith
No, it's just like, you already stand where you stand and it's just like, you know, that's the best thing you can do. And once you start arguing, before you know it, you say something hateful, then you start blocking people and then people want to come. Yeah. And then people start coming for you and then it's like, you know, deeper than that. And then they think that you hate them and it's just not what it's about.
Shane
Yeah.
Jackie
What a trap. You could fall.
Keith
Yeah.
Jackie
Have I fallen into the said trap? Yeah, maybe once or twice. Maybe I've said something that I'm not super proud of.
Keith
Yeah, Jackie, hold on. Look, we're going to have a conversation after this because we are not responding to any more of those comments. 2020. No more comments until somebody say some.
Shane
Bullshit I don't like on Twitter or Instagram or what All.
Keith
All of them.
Jackie
Facebook is a. Seth.
Shane
Yeah, Facebook. That's after I quickly realized, like, Instagram and Twitter Was like, okay, that's handled. I realized, like, I have a much better chance at reaching out to people close to me who think differently than me. So I was dedicating a lot of time posting, but I never go on Facebook, man. So when I started going on, I was like, oh, this is a really top toxic place.
Keith
Yeah, Facebook is where it's at. You will get stuck in Facebook forever. I'll be reading the comments. So I do read the comments, and I'll be laughing, and sometimes I'll find myself writing stuff like, don't you say that. And it's like, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete, delete. It's just like, what. What's the point? What's the point? We obviously disagree, and there's nothing I can say to make you feel any different. If you don't feel different now, it's still going to take you a minute for you to come around. But all I can continue to say is, black lives matter. So you hear it. And so that annoys you a little bit. I want it to annoy you. If it annoys you, you should probably get checked out. Because that's not. It's not saying that all lives matter. We just want you to understand that black lives matter.
Shane
Great.
Jackie
I think there is something to be said, though, for, like. Because, like, I'm, like, I'm not trying to argue with, like, still trying to be like, PC. I don't want to. I don't want to say all Trump supporters feel a certain type of way, but, like, let's say. Let's say. I don't know, hypothetically, let's say.
Shane
Avid.
Jackie
Trump supporters are in line with, like, very specific ideologies, like, of the party. Right. But it's like, I'm like, okay, like, they're set. You know what I mean? For the most part, like, it's going to take a lot to make change there. But I'm like, my focus is on the people that are just, like, kind of indifferent, that are like, well, the fact that he was murdered is bad. But. And I'm like, there's no but. There's no but. Like, what is the but? Like, what is. Why are we talking about property? Like, what the. Like, those are. That's my. That's my.
Keith
That's.
Jackie
That's my corner of the world. That I'm just like, shut up, Jackie.
Keith
My dad. My dad always said, you know, whenever somebody says but, they're taking away everything they said before.
Shane
Yeah.
Keith
You know?
Shane
Yeah.
Keith
Yo, I like you, but it's just like, you don't like me like that.
Shane
Then yeah, there's a term for that.
Jackie
No offense, but I can't really like.
Shane
There's been so much good information coming through on people's Instagram stories and like on Twitter and stuff. There is a term for like when people say, yes, your thing you said. But also like, just. There's a term. And I'm sure, Shane, racist off the top.
Jackie
Is assholism.
Shane
Yeah, assholism.
Keith
Honestly, asshole ism. Asshole isms.
Jackie
Asshole isms. Oh my God. The conversations I've gotten into on Facebook, I am not proud of them. Like, not completely proud of them, but it's just crazy. It's really crazy.
Keith
I had a few. I had to unfollow a few people and it's just like, I'm not usually want to do that, but I just. If we don't, I'm not about to argue with you. I just. I look at what you post, I'm probably not going to respond. I'm not going to say. And if it doesn't match up or link up with what I'm like saying right now, I'm just. I don't need to. I don't even need to look at it. And I'm not going to argue with you. There's no need for me to argue. You are where you are. I'm where I'm at. But I'm also just going to move myself out of the picture so that I don't upset myself and stress myself out. And that's another thing. We have to take care of our, like, mental health in this time too. And that's something that I've always struggled with. But I remember the first day this started, like when everything started to get crazy. I remember I would be, you know, on the phone talking to a friend about something, and then I would like start watching the news or like start looking at posts and I would cry and then I would find myself, like, out of it, you know, like, trying to get out of it. So I would call my friend, laugh a little bit, and then I would come back in and just like start to cry again. It was like a big emotional roller coaster. And I feel like we're all going through and it doesn't matter if. If you're black, white, yellow, red, brown, purple, like Barney, like, we are all feeling all of this energy right now. And like, I mean, black people have been feeling this energy for a minute, forever. Like we were born into this energy. But like the. I can only imagine how y'all feel right now, and I know y'all don't wanna feel racist. And, like, it's so many levels to all of this, y'all. And a lot of the times we're not even using the word racist right? But just to, you know, get our points across, it's, like, levels to it. We were, like, racist. Like, we can't wait to use the word honestly. And I'm just trying to even educate myself on how I can do things better. And I do realize a lot of my fan base, a lot of our fan base because of Smosh, is white. So, like, I have to watch how I speak to them because I don't want to start going off because they don't disagree with me. But I also, like, I also don't want to just let people say crazy shit on my pages, you know? But I also can't say anything because if I say something, I'm gonna. I'm gonna be mean, and I want to educate. And all I can do is just by keeping on posting and just letting you see where I stand and not having anything to say after the fact.
Jackie
I think there's, like, a kind of, like, a burden, too, that there's a. I mean, there's the burden of, like, already being black. Like, there's everything that you're born into, like, generationally. Right. But it's also, like, a lot of my friends who mean well. Like, and this is like, that's. It's like, they mean well, but. And they're like, what can I do? What can I do? And I'm like, that's not. That's. That's not my role in that. Like, and so you want me. But it's like, you want me be upset about this thing. The fact that you're upset now, I have to walk you through how to be not upset about the thing that is affecting me. Like, and it's. And it's like. And everyone. And all at the same time. Like, everyone is so different, too. It's like, not all black people are the same. We're not all responding to this the same way. You know, like, some people want you to check in with them, and they're like, well, they didn't say shit to me. Like, we're not friends. It's like. And then there's people like, no, check in on me. Like, I literally had to tell my friends. I'm like, please stop contacting me. Oh, really? I did. I was like, I know.
Shane
I saw that.
Jackie
But, like, yeah, yeah, okay. Because for me, I'm like, the. Because then. Because then I know myself, like, immediately. I'm like, I'm okay, and I'm trying to make them feel okay when I'm not okay. And it's like me telling them like, I'm okay is for them and it's not for me. So I was just like, I just need to stop talking to people and just go through what I'm going through. And then. And I'm like, I will let you know what I need when I need it. And asking for that type of help.
Keith
Olivia hit me up, and then a few other people hit me up and I was like, oh, man, people really care right now. They actually give a fuck. And then it got to a point where more people started hitting me up. My white friends, and I started kind of feeling a certain way. They would hit me up day in and day out. And I was like, hold on. Let me, like, take a step back. They are actually showing that they care, you know? And I had to, like, take a step outside of myself because I started to feel some type of way. I'm like, you don't hit me up this much. I mean, this is how I always feel. It's like, no, they're coming too. They're starting to understand a lot more. So, like, all I can do is just meet them and just be like, yo, like, thank you. I really means the world to me. I kept telling it means the world that you are actually seeing. Like, did it feel weird at first? 100%. But I had to, like, step outside of myself and my understanding and be like, this is what they understand now.
Jackie
Yeah.
Shane
I mean, yeah, from my perspective, like, I felt semi aware of that reaching out to you, Keith, because, like, something about the way you're texting, I was like, okay, I, like, I can see, like, this maybe seems weird. Like, I have seen posts of. Of texting, like, oh, check in on your people. Like, check in on your friends of color. Like, And I did see that and was like, yeah, I obviously want to check on my friends. But I also, like, I can understand that it feels a little uncomfortable that you're being singled out like that, but.
Keith
Yeah, but it's just like, it's all about, like, we were coming to.
Shane
That was a great. That was a great way of coming.
Keith
To, just coming to an understanding. Like, I'm understanding where you are. You're understanding where I'm at. You know what I mean? Like, I can't battle everything. This is not what I need to battle. That's. That's not the battle right now. You know, you asking me if I'm okay, which I do. Like, still agree. Like, I felt like how Jackie felt at first, but I went another way with it. But, like, her way of dealing is still fucking valid because I had the same reaction.
Jackie
We have. We all have very specific needs, like, and it's like, everyone has specific needs all the time. You know what I mean? So we're not all going to be responding to things the same way. Like, the way some of my friends have supported me, they've just been like. They've sent me, like, money on Venmo. They're like, make sure you eat today. And I'm just like, you're right. Because I was skipping meals. I was like. I kept forgetting to eat. Like, I was. I had no appetite. Yeah, I had no food in my house. Like, I wasn't taking care of myself. And it's like, small stuff like that or just like, one. Like, there was a couple days where my friends, like, I had. We'd already been, like, quarantined, and, like, we had been, like, super conscious about, like, the. The virus and stuff. But they just, like, picked me up from my house, and this is when the curfews were come. Were together. And, like, we're gonna go to a protest. We didn't end up going. But then I just, like, spent the night with them, like, at their place, and just, like, they, like, made me dinner, they made me breakfast. And like, we just, like, did stupid. Like, we played, like, horse. Like horseshoes. I'm like, what the Am I just, like, being able to just. It's like, you can support.
Keith
I wasn't supporting a horseshoe.
Jackie
Horseshoes. We played car. Like, Just like. And it. And it's just like, you can be supported in different ways. And, like, I'm like, I just really appreciate. I really, like. Even though I'm like, please don't, like, text me, because I'm already bad at texting. But just the way my friends have shown up for me, I appreciate it. And I recognize it too. And there was one day when I was crying, and it's just like. Because I was really. I was so sad because I'm like, damn, my support system is so strong. And it's like. And I was just like, damn. The fact that not everyone has the same type of support system right now is just, like, it made my heart hurt just, like, thinking about it. Because I'm like, I know. I'm like, my people got me. Like, I know. I'm like, don't talk to me. Like, don't talk to me. I'll hit you up later. And like look, we have that.
Shane
Yeah, good. That's good.
Jackie
But it's like not everybody has that. And it's like also recognizing that and just.
Keith
Jackie, I have a question.
Jackie
What's up?
Keith
Who are your friends that be sending you money for food? Cause I'm hungry right now.
Shane
Oh my God.
Keith
And I like, I want some new, like I'm down to make some new friends after this quarantine. And if they look out for you like that, I'm hungry. I like dollar menus. For real. I'm not. I'm just playing. Do not send me a friend that's in the dollar menus and all of that. I'm expensive.
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Jackie
I'm expensive.
Shane
That's the thing. Like this, this quarantine has made things so much harder. Like normally your friends would be able to take you to a meal or something. But also I feel like the quarantine kind of helped in a way because people aren't working. People are going on.
Keith
Yeah.
Shane
So they're able to show up.
Jackie
Exactly.
Keith
If the quarantine wasn't going on, people would be at work. I had to, I don't think that I would have. If I had something to do. I don't think I would like have gone out there. You know what I mean? The fact that we have been cooped in our houses for so long, everybody is able to see like, you know, like the way that they see it now, you know, they don't have anything to do. You know. That's exactly why. Because if people are at work, they're not going to stop making money to go, to go protest. They're not. That's exactly why the quarantine like Covid, although it's killed some people and like a lot of people.
Jackie
Killed a lot of people. Like.
Keith
No. Killed a lot of people. No. Although it has, it's been somewhat of a like A. I don't know, eye opening experience for so many different people. It's weird. It's like, it's. I don't want to call it a blessing because it's not been a blessing for so many people, but it's definitely been sort of a blessing for other people. It's. It's like finding your light within it, y'all. Because all of this 2020 has been something like, vicious. It's been crazy. We don't know what's happening next, y'all. Aliens are definitely about to come and show out, show up and show out, and I'm just trying to be on the right side. That's all I'm trying to do. Like, Keith Lee, phone home. But Covid definitely stepped. Came on in.
Jackie
Yeah.
Keith
Stepped up.
Shane
Yeah, dude, it's true. Like, people are dying. Like, oh, my God, dude, did I tell you so Keemstar, like, he was. He was frustrating me. I don't care. I will talk a little bit of smack on Keemstar right now.
Keith
Go out.
Shane
Drama.
Jackie
I know Keemstar. Yeah, he's a drama. Drama channel.
Shane
He's a drama alert. He's had a lot of controversy, especially lately, because Ethan Klein, H3H3, like, really went in on him. And it's been, like, so much drama between them too. And, like, he wasn't. And I'm sure his audience is probably a little racist, but he wasn't, like, posting a lot of, like, helpful stuff online at all. It was very, like, TMZ style. Like, oh, shit, this cop just wrecked this dude. And it's really frustrating. And then one day he's like, guys, I decided that I'm gonna reply to every tweet of H3H3 with a horse so that he becomes a better person and stops hating me. Like, that was his sweet. And, like, I literally replied with the picture of Courtney Kardashian being like, kim, there's people that are dying. Like, that's. That's one of those times where it frustrates. Frustrates me. People are using their platform wrong right now.
Keith
Yeah, it's not. It's like, I mean, definitely, like, you know, I like to post memes, and I like to make lighter situations with humor, serious situations for. With humor, you know? But it's. It's. It's a. It's definitely a level of respect that comes with it, and you know what I mean? It's not a joke. It's not a joke. You know, I mean, there can be light found within it and we can laugh at certain things. But this is not a joke, man. Like, I don't know who that person is, but I hope that he can, like, understand that it's a serious issue, you know, Whoever he is. I don't want smoke. I don't like all that drama stuff. I. Look, I put on gloves. Not playing. Like, I'm just saying, I like to fight either. But, like, whoever you are out there, like, I mean, have some respect.
Shane
I think he's gotten a little. A little better.
Keith
Okay, Good about it, for sure. Much love, brother, whoever you are out there.
Shane
But, yeah, that horse tweet, I was.
Keith
Just like, dude, yeah, come on. Who cares? People are dying.
Shane
But that was what made me so. I think I felt the most joy. That day was like, when we were out in the crowd and, Jackie, you were, like, goofing around, and you were making Keith and Shane laugh so hard together. And I can't tell you, I. I can't even remember the last time I heard that in person. Keith and Shane laughing together. My damn apartment for months. I pet Olivia's dog. That was my first time petting a dog in, like, four months. That was the best day. That was the best day of 20, 20, 100%. And there's a pandemic and police brutality happening.
Keith
But can we talk about how, like, I. That we like to find, like, light and, like, humor within things? It's like, we're not laughing at the circumstances at hand at all, but, like, certain things happen. I was talking about it. Somebody. I'm like, yo, like, when we were protesting the first day. The first day I went out there, somebody tripped and almost fell. I'm gonna laugh. You know, I'm sorry. I'm gonna laugh. I'm gonna laugh at your ass, and I'm gonna keep it moving. I'm like, I see you. I see you. Better keep up. You gotta have fun within it. Who says that you cannot have fun? Like, I refuse to go to something like, you know, and not enjoy myself.
Jackie
Yeah.
Keith
Like, the energy is to, you know. Shane felt uncomfortable. He was like, I don't want to, like, you know, be seen laughing. And people think that I'm not serious. I'm like, bro, you're with me. You are fine. We are here saying their names. You know what I mean? We are here protesting. We are bodies here. But if something happens. Funny. I'm not a robot. I'm alive. Look. Yeah, like, it's funny. I'm telling you. Some people smell at the protest. It's like, come on, bro, you gotta put on some.
Jackie
I know. Yeah.
Shane
And then seeing people like that, Remember we saw the red Power Ranger up on the light post? Like, yeah, that makes me happy. That makes me happy. It made me be like, should I put on my Shira costume?
Jackie
Are we cosplaying right now?
Keith
You do come to these protests. Like, come as you are. You can come however you want. Well, hold on now. Do not come in there with a KKK uniform. Like, you might make that not peaceful. Like, don't do that. Be very smart about it. But, like, like, they. People you can come in and costumes. I mean, I wouldn't. But I mean, do whatever. We just want support. We want love. We want to, like, we want to show love. We want peace and hair grease. You know what I mean? Like, it's a. It's a very pleasant.
Shane
Yeah. And even on social media, it's like that, too. Like, we're getting serious. We want justice. We're sharing all the right stuff. And then. Then the people start sharing, like, really, like, memes that really help you feel like, oh, yeah. Together. This makes me feel good. Like, Tick tock is Tick Tock has actually been. All right. I think they're. They're like. Kids are kind of upset because the algorithm will change and they'll, like, not allow Black Lives Matter content to, like, show.
Keith
I seen that.
Shane
It's frustrating, but, like, I think. I don't know. I think they're, like, on a fine line. It sucks.
Keith
Yeah.
Shane
But the meme. The meme culture of this movement is awesome.
Keith
Yeah. We gotta have some light. We have to have some light. That's. Yeah, it's about. You have to have some light in the midst of the darkness, and we have to love on each other. We have to come together and just. Just love on each other and just hear people out. Just actually listen your truth to, like, my white brothers and sisters or other whoever, like, your truths are. Everyone else is true. So when people are complaining or they're yelling really loud and they're crying and they're upset, like, really hear them out because they're not making it up. It's like, you know.
Shane
Yeah.
Keith
Privileges out there that you will not understand that you have them because you have them.
Jackie
Yeah.
Keith
And when you just is here. Listen, be. Be a student. Be a student. You know, this. All this that's going on isn't going on for no reason. Like, it's not just happening for no reason. Like, buildings aren't burning for no reason. Like, I'm not saying that. Yeah. Agree with it. No, but you're right for a reason. And once you just listen and open up and just hear somebody yelling like, yo. I mean, just listen. Listen and just be open. Open to open. Be open to change. Be open and change. Be open to change and be open to unity.
Shane
Absolutely.
Keith
My mom. Yo.
Jackie
Can I tell you 2020.
Keith
I was. Okay. I actually. I was gonna say that with everything that's been going on, my mom called me something. She called me Martin Luther Keith because.
Jackie
Oh, my God.
Keith
Yeah. She was like, look at you. She's like, look at you, Martin Luther King. I'm like, I want to write that somewhere, but I don't want to be disrespectful. That's funny, man. I don't. Look, I don't know what. I don't know what. Mothers laughing.
Shane
If someone's gonna try and cancel you.
Keith
Like, if they try, so they could try. I'm not about to be upset by some. Let me stop. I've been out in these streets. Yeah, that's positive.
Shane
I. What?
Jackie
B.B.
Keith
No, I don't know.
Shane
Sorry. Keith and I call each other bb.
Keith
Oh, yeah. Yeah. From a scene we did years ago.
Jackie
I get it. You've worked together for a long time. Like, can I. Can I have a nickname? Like, you can be BB Too.
Shane
I called you Jack earlier. Is that weird?
Jackie
No, I love it.
Keith
I'm gonna call you Jack O Lantern.
Jackie
Oh, please don't.
Shane
Because you're the light in our life.
Keith
Yeah, exactly. You got a light that's coming out. You know what I'm saying?
Shane
I'm calling you Jack from now on.
Keith
Dude.
Shane
I'm calling you call me Jack.
Jackie
Okay. When I was younger, though, people would call me Jack o'lantern around in October, and I would just feel like it would be in October, and I would just feel like.
Shane
Just.
Jackie
I was like, I am being bullied.
Keith
Yeah, I got to work on. I do bully sometimes.
Jackie
I got to Jack O Lantern. Like, if I'm the light in your life, I'll take that.
Keith
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You have been a. You have been a nice light.
Shane
But speaking of what you were saying about student stuff, I got some reading to do.
Jackie
Yes. Right.
Shane
I literally. I've ordered so many books. Guys, I'm.
Keith
I'm.
Shane
I'm. Your class is in session, and I'm.
Jackie
In front row, bitch.
Keith
Well, you need to get off and go read those.
Jackie
I meant to be a bitch.
Shane
Yeah.
Keith
I'm about to be on set, so I know you're not gonna have enough Time to read all that stuff right now. So we need to get off of here. You need to go read that right now and report back to me.
Shane
I will. Give me a pop quiz. Yeah, we're not going to do a shoe dude today because it's not about that today. It's not about that. It's about.
Jackie
Yeah.
Shane
So I love you guys. Thanks for hanging out and thanks for chatting. You guys are great. All right, before we go, we do have a place that you. If you guys are looking for places to donate. We are still. We still have a fundraiser within the nw, the. The and the naacp. It's. If you want to donate there on the. Like. The link is below our video on YouTube of the podcast and it's also been on a bunch of other YouTube videos, which I heard that when we started supporting Black Lives Matter publicly on our YouTube channels, Smosh Games lost a ton of subscribers and oh, so good riddance because what the fuck?
Keith
Good Lord. And also there's other places beyond the NAACP that you can like donate to. So there's like, I mean Google, Google is your best friend. Like really? Like check them out. Yeah, check your sources. All the situation. Check your sources. Like, what's good?
Shane
A lot of influencers, A lot of influencers, including myself, have Instagram story highlights. We just, I've just been accumulating all the stuff that I've learned. Even if you don't have money to donate, there are videos where you can just watch them and the adsense will go toward cause. That is awesome. And then yeah, places to donate. There's. There's petitions to sign, there's books. Twitter has been an accident. Books to read. Absolutely. I believe I've posted those in my Instagram story as well. I'm not trying to self promote, but you guys as well, posting great stuff.
Jackie
Yeah. I would also recommend following Black Lives Matter because they're, they're. I mean it is. They've started this movement. So if you ever just like what is. What is their mission? And like going. Making sure that you're actively following them, looking at their website, seeing like how they're activating in your city. A lot of the chapters have their own specific media for social media for the specific cities they're in. So like I'm following Black Lives Matter la, What they're doing and like looking at like your local issues too because it's like it is a national, it's fuck, it's a global issue. But it's like looking at how you can activate locally is also super important. Making sure you're showing up to vote. If you're a voting age. Making sure you knowing like who your candidates are.
Shane
Everybody has a role. There's always a way to do your part. And there's so many ways you can do it. And also take care of yourself.
Keith
Yes. Out there in these streets.
Shane
Yeah.
Keith
Or at home, wherever you are. We love you.
Shane
Be safe in the streets. Be safe in the sheets.
Keith
And remember to stay black.
Jackie
I love you.
Keith
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Jackie
I did it. I said it. I said it. Absolutely.
Keith
We love you too, baby.
Jackie
We love you too. Am I trying to like, you know when you're like trying to get too included, like. Yeah, I love you too.
Keith
Sh. Yeah. It's a little weird, but come on.
Jackie
Okay. Thanks. Friends. I love you friends.
Keith
Love you.
Shane
Love you guys. See you at the next protest. See you next. Okay, bye.
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Podcast Summary: Smosh Mouth – S2: #67 - Black Lives Matter
Release Date: June 17, 2020
Hosts: Shayne Topp (short), Amanda Lehan-Canto (tall), and a rotating Smosh friend
Description: In this episode, the Smosh team delves deep into the Black Lives Matter movement, sharing personal experiences from recent protests, discussing the emotional toll, and exploring ways to support the cause effectively.
The episode opens with the hosts addressing the resurgence of the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement amidst the COVID-19 pandemic. They acknowledge the global momentum and the pivotal events that have galvanized communities worldwide.
Notable Quote:
Keith (00:35): "I didn't know how this was gonna happen. I knew that one day it would happen. I didn't know when it would happen or if it would even happen in my lifetime. But we're here. We are here. And we can see the light. I feel the light. I feel it. I feel change happening."
Keith’s First Protest:
Keith shares his first experience protesting, highlighting his initial fears influenced by media portrayals of police brutality. He emphasizes witnessing a sense of unity and hope among the protesters.
Jackie’s Journey:
Jackie recounts her experience during the protests, reflecting on her past involvement during Trayvon Martin's case and how this movement felt different and more personal. She describes participating in multiple protests, finding solace and strength in community support.
Shane’s Involvement:
Shane discusses his motivation to join the protests, feeling compelled to act as the situation escalated. He mentions the challenges of balancing personal safety with the urgency to support the movement.
Notable Quotes:
Jackie (06:05): "The first protest that I participated in wasn't was when I was in college when Trayvon Martin was murdered... And this was the first time, like, I was telling you guys, like, this is the first time that I've ever, like, gone out into my city and protests."
Shane (05:59): "Was this your first time protesting all for everybody?"
The conversation delves into the emotional strain caused by the protests and the broader issues of systemic racism. The hosts discuss the importance of mental health support, acknowledging feelings of anger, sadness, and frustration.
Keith’s Emotional Struggle:
Keith admits to experiencing emotional highs and lows, expressing how witnessing injustice affects his mental state.
Jackie on Coping Mechanisms:
Jackie talks about using humor and maintaining a support system to navigate the emotional challenges of the movement.
Notable Quotes:
Keith (04:10): "And I feel that every gap is being bridged. I've never seen anything like it. My mom's never seen anything like it. It's such a beautiful thing to see unity."
Jackie (15:26): "The only way that I've been able to get through like the past couple of weeks is with like my sense of humor."
The hosts explore various methods to support BLM beyond attending protests, recognizing that not everyone can participate physically.
Protesting Safely:
They discuss practical tips for attending protests, such as dressing appropriately, staying safe, and being prepared for potential confrontations.
Donations and Volunteering:
Emphasis is placed on donating to credible organizations like the NAACP and volunteering in ways that support those affected by police brutality.
Advocacy and Education:
Keith and Shane highlight the importance of educating oneself through documentaries, books, and credible online resources to better understand systemic racism.
Notable Quotes:
Keith (09:18): "There are more people standing in the gaps that aren't black, and that's why it's working right now."
Shane (21:00): "There are thousands of ways you can do your part. There's so many ways you can do it."
The discussion critiques how media outlets often misrepresent protests, focusing on negative incidents like looting rather than the peaceful majority.
Misconceptions Highlighted:
The hosts argue that the media amplifies the actions of a small percentage of looters, overshadowing the peaceful nature of most protests.
Impact of Media Narratives:
They express frustration over media narratives that skew public perception, making it harder to convey the true intent behind the movement.
Notable Quotes:
Shane (13:07): "It's crazy, but it's not funny. Like, this is not a joke."
Keith (24:48): "The media will make you think something is bad. Like, don't, don't. Y'all, the media, there's..."
The hosts address the challenges of engaging with supporters and critics on social media platforms.
Avoiding Toxic Interactions:
They discuss the importance of not engaging in unproductive arguments online and setting boundaries to protect mental health.
Positive Engagement:
Emphasis is placed on spreading accurate information, supporting allies, and using social media as a tool for education rather than confrontation.
Notable Quotes:
Keith (31:52): "We have to take care of our mental health in this time too."
Shane (32:14): "If someone’s gonna try and cancel you, they're trying to not care about the movement for real."
The conversation emphasizes the need for unity both within the movement and among allies from different backgrounds.
Support Systems:
The hosts share personal stories of how friends and family have supported them, highlighting the diverse ways people can show solidarity.
Inclusive Advocacy:
They advocate for building inclusive support networks that bridge racial and cultural gaps, ensuring that the movement remains strong and unified.
Notable Quotes:
Keith (28:44): "We are a different type of people, I will say, then it comes with some heavy hearts sometimes."
Jackie (42:58): "Recognizing that not everyone has the same type of support system right now is just, like, it made my heart hurt just, like, thinking about it."
Despite the serious nature of the topic, the hosts discuss the importance of finding moments of joy and humor to sustain themselves.
Light Amidst Darkness:
They talk about incorporating humor to lighten the emotional burden without diminishing the gravity of the issues at hand.
Building Resilience:
Using laughter and positive interactions as tools to build resilience and maintain a balanced emotional state during challenging times.
Notable Quotes:
Keith (48:06): "We gotta find some light. We have to have some light in the midst of the darkness."
Shane (49:11): "The meme culture of this movement is awesome."
The episode wraps up with a heartfelt call to action, urging listeners to get involved in ways that suit their capabilities, whether through protests, donations, education, or advocating for change within their communities.
Encouragement to Act:
The hosts motivate their audience to take meaningful steps towards supporting BLM, emphasizing that every contribution counts.
Resources Shared:
They provide information on reputable organizations, educational materials, and actionable steps to help listeners engage effectively.
Notable Quotes:
Keith (54:10): "We are here saying their names. We are here protesting. We are bodies here. But if something happens... it's funny. I'm not a robot. I'm alive."
Shane (56:28): "Everybody has a role. There's always a way to do your part."
Final Thoughts:
This episode of Smosh Mouth provides an insightful and heartfelt exploration of the Black Lives Matter movement, highlighting the importance of personal involvement, mental well-being, and collective action. The hosts effectively balance serious discussions with moments of levity, offering a comprehensive perspective on contributing to meaningful societal change.