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Ramble Johnny Bravo. I did watch quite a lot. I loved all the sexy girls that he would come across and hit on. Like, how did I ever think I was straight?
Damien Haas
Honestly, I remember playing like runescape and that was my first like game where there was a lot of other people and I immediately just got kind of like shat on for like being new at the game.
Courtney Miller
I wish I could tell my younger self, hey, these girls are putting you down because they're threatened by you and they don't want you to look prettier than them. Fuck them. Wear and look however you want.
Damien Haas
Hated Jimmy Neutron with a passion.
Courtney Miller
Why did you hate it?
Damien Haas
He's an asshole. He doesn't learn anything ever.
Courtney Miller
Sound sync for me real quick.
Damien Haas
Sound sync for Damien. I'm kidding.
Courtney Miller
I don't need to say done. Dang.
Damien Haas
Thank you. Thank you. I think. Did you hear Kevin? Was that Kevin? Get out of here.
Courtney Miller
Kevin. Get out.
Damien Haas
Stop it.
Courtney Miller
Go get.
Damien Haas
Go on. Get out of here. Don't you see we can't keep you anymore, boy.
Courtney Miller
Boy. Oh my gosh. I just realized you're wearing your. What are those?
Damien Haas
Shirts. Actually, it's. How much in the world money is it? Does it cost? That's the name of the. The shirt that we made up. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Courtney Miller
I didn't. Sorry. Got to put my phone on. Do not disturb.
Damien Haas
That's okay. I'm assuming that we've already started and that this whole minute and a half is already in. I'd like that very much.
Courtney Miller
Kevin says sure.
Damien Haas
Kevin. Kevin. For those who the itchiest nose. Sorry.
Courtney Miller
No, it's fine. For people who watch or listen, we usually record on our own computers, but then we go through Zoom and Kevin is sometimes able to hit us up in the chat on Zoom and either remind us tell us if their sound is bad, which usually is what he has to tell me. And so yeah, that's usually what we're referring to. But. Hello, welcome to Another casting of a pod. Hey, we are tis I, Courtney, mayor of Smosh, alongside of my right hand man, Dammen house.
Damien Haas
Hi, it's me, Damaman House. I am known as friend of Courtney and employee of Smash.
Courtney Miller
Employee of Smash. So Olivia is CEO on Smosh. Ian is president of Smosh. I am a mayor. What. What would the government official position would you like to take for Smosh?
Damien Haas
I would like to be the viceroy of the principality of Smashes colonies.
Courtney Miller
What is that?
Damien Haas
I don't know, a vice versa. Some kind of. Some kind of official. Sorry, I'm in like. I'm in like the goofiest headspace today. I've been like all over the place this morning. Do you ever just like wake up and you're like, I feel dumb and cranky like all at once. Like I feel like I'm there.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, I just want to. What did you eat before bed?
Damien Haas
I didn't. That's the thing. So I had a very bad stomach last night. And although I ordered some delicious Mediterranean food, it remains in my fridge to this day. Because I was like, no food for me. Not on this day.
Courtney Miller
Did you eat this morning?
Damien Haas
I did. I postmated some Starbucks as a treat.
Courtney Miller
Oh, nice.
Damien Haas
So I had some cafe and then I had some of their sous vide egg bites. Which is a brilliant marketing technique by them because they're like, how can we just like rapid fire crack some eggs and like, you know, 20 cents worth of eggs charged. Some idiot. Six dollars. Yeah, like now I'm. I'm that idiot. Hi. Yes, please.
Courtney Miller
I always get those little bagel balls.
Damien Haas
Oh, the bagel balls.
Courtney Miller
The bagel bow.
Damien Haas
Oh, I wonder, wonder whom I do my whom. What's in a bagel ball?
Courtney Miller
Well, it's like an everything bagel, but it's like a little sphere and inside is like this veggie cream cheese.
Damien Haas
Ooh. What's the like ratio of bagel to cream?
Courtney Miller
Because I feel actually pretty good and I usually strategically will bite certain spots. So I'll get some extra cream cheese there and I'll nibble on some bread there. Oh.
Damien Haas
So it's like a soup dumpling. You bite it first, blow on it for whatever reason.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, it's a good like on the way to work treat nice.
Damien Haas
Well, back when we used to leave.
Courtney Miller
Our homes, dude, I used to like feel so good whenever on our way to work, on our way to the office, I would go through the drive through at that Starbucks near me. The workers, they're so sweet and friendly and it's not like the annoying sweet and friendly, you know, where it's like, it puts a bad taste in your mouth. It's like genuine kindness. And I'm like, I'm literally as. They're like, okay, you have a good day. Okay. And I'm like, yes.
Damien Haas
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
And I'm driving away and I'm like, fuck yeah. That was so nice. Yes. Niceness. And then I have a good day.
Damien Haas
I didn't really realize it until you just said that, but I think I define different points in my life by which coffee shop I would go to and how the employees were. So before I ever moved, like nearby. Smosh. Mythical. In the first place, there was, There was a coffee shop on the way that I'd stop at and it was like just the nicest people. They'd be like, so happy to see me again. And they'd be like, no, I'm going to spell your name right one of these days. They'd like remember the order and all that stuff. And then after that, I started going to a closer one that was a drive thru, like you're saying. And it's. They're very nice, but they did have a little bit of that, like, saccharine, like, I'm so happy to take your order today. And I'm like, I don't know if you are. And it's nice that you're saying that, that. But like, yeah, you can just give me the bean water and we'll be polite, but you don't have to be like, this is the best moment. Hot bean Worder.
Courtney Miller
Hot bean water. You were the first person to ever say that to me and I, I think it's so funny. That's bean water. Yeah. I'm really excited about this episode of the podcast because we're diving into our childhoods a little bit.
Damien Haas
Who needs therapy? Am I right?
Courtney Miller
I know it's weird because I've actually been taking this time in quarantining. Like, I still do video chat therapy and I've been just taking this time to like, dive into my past and like, really digging out the issues that have affected me today.
Damien Haas
That's huge.
Courtney Miller
It's a lot. I feel like it's also made me kind of extra sensitive in these last few weeks because, like, those wounds are open.
Damien Haas
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
But I'm getting, I think I'm finally at a point where I'm like, okay, I've, I've gone through all of that dirty laundry and I think it's good. I don't need to, I can, I can go now.
Damien Haas
I Can definitely relate to that. I had a lot of rough patches as a young and, like, a lot of weird, difficult circumstances that everybody's got their struggles, but, like, mine were weird. I feel like I've done a good job of, like, capping them and being like, all right, it's. That's in the back of my brain. We're good and all that stuff, and I can go through life being just fine. So it's like you're saying, like, do I open the wounds again and be like, all right, right, time to deal with this and what is there to deal with, you know?
Courtney Miller
But I know. I think one thing I've learned is like, you have no idea how much these small things that happen in your childhood affect you when you're a 40 year old. Like, it is even the smallest things. Like, I realize I have entirely built this entire construct in my head of how I look at everything in my life. But also it's also the positive things that affect our lives, like toys and video games, that really shape our creativity.
Damien Haas
I like that. Good segue.
Courtney Miller
Thank you. I do my best.
Damien Haas
I'm going to call out every, like, producer y thing that we do here. I'm going to be like, hey, I see what you.
Courtney Miller
That's going to be a good edit.
Damien Haas
Yeah, it's going to be great. Why edit at all?
Courtney Miller
But, yeah. So we got questions on Twitter from all you guys asking. Basically wanted to know what your questions were or references to things that we had growing up, whether it was video games, memories, cartoons, you know, stuff like that.
Damien Haas
So I'm going to say toys too. I saw a lot of response about toys, so, yeah, slip that in there.
Courtney Miller
Too, because our notifications were freaking like, oh, much pictures. A lot of them were just pictures of toys. So, yeah, I'm down to. To do some mentions of those as well.
Damien Haas
Nice.
Courtney Miller
Are you ready to get right into it, my guy?
Damien Haas
Are you ready to get right into it, my guy?
Courtney Miller
Yeah, you are too good at that. Let me try. Are you ready to get right into it?
Damien Haas
That was the. How did I say it twice? Wow.
Courtney Miller
You didn't say anything.
Damien Haas
You didn't say it twice.
Courtney Miller
He did it. Okay. All right, the first question comes from Opic Breezes. Tropicbreezes. What were your favorite games growing up? I didn't have a console, so the first game that really stuck with me was the Sims 2. Mm. Did you play Sims?
Damien Haas
I did. You know, I only did at, like, a friend's house because my parents. My parents were like, open to video game Stuff like right off the bat. So nice. I remember like we had like an old Mac and I tried to play like SimCity on that, like the original, I think Sim City.
Courtney Miller
Yeah.
Damien Haas
So I was familiar with it there and I really liked the like city building aspect of the game. My first video game memory was I was in Germany still, so I must have been three or younger. And my family got a Super Nintendo which is like really lucky. Like I don't, I can't even imagine like inflation wise how much that would have been a hit to a family back then. So I was really grateful to have it. So I remember watching my sister play Super Mario World and then when she was done I would play Super Mario World and like, wow, that I must have been two and a half or three. And then from there like all the Super Nintendo things like Donkey Kong Country, Super Super Ghouls and Ghosts, which I think influenced my love for Dark Souls because it was hard as hell and very spooky. Star Fox, F0, all those games, I loved them. And then the first game that was ever mine was I. We had a poetry competition in, in my like school system from like kindergarten to high school. And so the first year I did it, it was all recitation. It wasn't like writing anything. So the first year I did it my parents told me that like, you know, if you do a good job, we'll, we'll get you a treat. And I'm like, oh, okay. And I had been playing this demo disc of Diablo which was an incredibly mature and terrifying game. I was five years old and so my parents like after I, I ended up winning it, but my parents were like, hey, we wanted to get something for you either way because you tried your best and which is looking back, really lucky. So they got me Diablo. So that was the first game that was ever mine and it was like I was like five and it was a very mature game. But I love it is how much.
Courtney Miller
That like with Lara Croft in it, right?
Damien Haas
No, you're thinking of a Tomb Raider, which is still a mature game. Diablo is the one where like literally looking back it's sort of like a, almost like a D and D style thing, but it's like a top down, it's an isometric view.
Courtney Miller
Oh yeah. I think it played one of the.
Damien Haas
Newer ones probably and it's much more like arcade nowadays. But back then it was like incredibly dark. You couldn't even really see what was going on in the game and there were just like monsters around you and like there's the walls are covered in pixelated blood and horrifying, but amazing. And I loved it.
Courtney Miller
How about you?
Damien Haas
Cordelia was your first game. What did you think?
Courtney Miller
Oh, man. So my. My household, we didn't have any kind of counsel. I think growing up, my mom was very fixated. We were all. A lot of us were homeschooled. My older siblings were homeschooled up until like, middle school, high school, some of them. I was just homeschooled for like the first couple years. But I was, in a way, kind of raised by homeschool kids. So I feel like I see fans making edits of like, this. Courtney has homeschool energy, and I think I do.
Damien Haas
That's funny.
Courtney Miller
So a lot of our games were like computer games that were like Reader Rabbit and like, I loved math games. Right. I loved them too. They were definitely very fun. But that was all I had for a while.
Damien Haas
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
And then when we would visit my cousins who lived in Utah, they had a Nintendo and we played James Bond. Goldeneye.
Damien Haas
Goldeneye. That was great.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. I was always so bad at it, but I loved it. And that was the only one I ever wanted to play.
Damien Haas
That was always the game that like. Like you, your cousins had. It was always. Yeah, that, like, every friend had. I did not have it. It was that Turtles in Time. Those were the two that every friend had and I didn't.
Courtney Miller
Oh, Turtle in Time. I haven't heard of that one. Oh, it's a good time. And I didn't even see the James Bond movies. I didn't even know what James Bond was. It was just the video game. And then my mom had Sims, the very first one. And me and my sisters, like, because, you know, I had a lot of siblings, so I was always fighting over getting time on the computer. And my mom loved it too, because she would, like, do coding and try and like put pictures of people's faces on the Sims. But it was actually really terrifying looking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then my. We finally got an Xbox and the first games we played that I. I love to this day, Halo, all the Halo games sure played so much of that. And then Dead or Alive 3.
Damien Haas
I've heard you bring up Dead or Alive many a time. I feel like it's really influenced you.
Courtney Miller
Yes, it has. Creatively, sexually, you know, I feel like.
Damien Haas
The second one is true for a lot of people who play Dead or Alive.
Courtney Miller
Yeah.
Damien Haas
I did not know. This is very. Even, like Xbox era, which is interesting because, like, how many years are between us, Courtney? Four or five?
Courtney Miller
Five.
Damien Haas
I think five. So that's like, especially, like, the 90s to mid 2000s. Like, there's a lot of technological leaps just moment to moment there. Like the Xbox. Like, you describing Xbox as childhood. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's right. Like, that's interesting. Whereas Xbox for me is like, I'm a little bit older, like, preteen. Like, so that's. That's funny. I can't imagine what it would have been like for me to play Dead or alive at that point.
Courtney Miller
I know, but my first. My first, like, my game. Oh, and we had dance. We had DDR. We had Dance Dance Revolution.
Damien Haas
Love DDR.
Courtney Miller
We had two of those pads. We'd, like, hide them in the garage.
Damien Haas
They're in my car right now.
Courtney Miller
I have those pads in your car?
Damien Haas
Yeah, Well, I don't clean my car very much. And we had done a video with them at Defy, and so I had put them in, like, a garage storage unit at some point, but then I. I just moved again. So, like, now they're back in there. And Lord knows when I'm actually gonna, like, yeah, pull them out and do anything.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, it's a whole. It's a whole thing. But now they have the space. It's gonna be. That could, like, they could, like, look cool. Cool in your. In your office or something.
Damien Haas
I'm literally thinking, I want to find a way to put a TV up there and, like, have a PS2 connected so I can do DDR. And also, I want to get a VR headset for my room.
Courtney Miller
Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think that's a good idea. My. My very first game, that was mine. I remember some other cousins in Arizona were like, oh, this game is really great because you can actually beat it. Because, like, I wasn't good. I don't have very good motor skills. So they told. They're basically telling me it was easy. And it was Fable, too.
Damien Haas
Fable. So good.
Courtney Miller
So good.
Damien Haas
So good.
Courtney Miller
So much. The graphics blew my mind at the time. And then I went on to play the other Fables as well. Like Fables, I've only done three. Three is pretty good. Three is pretty good. I haven't played play before, I don't think.
Damien Haas
But wait, then maybe I played four. I think I played the. The most recent one, whether it's three or four. And then they just announced a new one with a teaser trailer. I think there's something to be said. Since you brought up graphics. I think there's something to be said about games that go for the fantastical as Opposed to the realistic because there was a big push. Like take Gears of War, for example. A lot of people love that game for good reason. But when it first came out, people made fun of it for being like, oh, how many browns and grays can we jam into a texture? And it's all like bleh and sad. Whereas with something like Fable, even if you're looking back several console generations, if they're trying to do a babbling brook next to this pretty green grass, tuft of bushes and a fairy meadow, like it holds up and you still get that same feeling of like, I want to explore.
Courtney Miller
I want to feel like, yes, dude, it is so nice. I remember in Fable 2, I think at certain point in the game you'll all of a sudden just start getting like heckled and roasted by this voice that's in the trees. And for years I could never find where this voice is going to be like, you think you're good at that you're never going to blah, blah, blah. And I, I was like, where the frick is this coming from? And apparently recently it's like some, I think it's like a dwarf or like, like, like, like Snow White style dwarf but. Or like a gnome type thing. But my little brother recently went back to play it and he found one in a tree and killed it and never heard the voice again.
Damien Haas
Oh my gosh.
Courtney Miller
I love stuff like, my God, that's yeah.
Damien Haas
What I do love about Fable, for better or for worse than anything made by so Peter Molyneux is I think the dude who originally pitched it and made it and, and he's very much like a dreamer. He is the kind of guy that's like, this game is gonna change everything. Like every choice you make in the game matters and will affect the rest of the games forever. And looking back, it's like, no, you choose if you wanna be good or evil and that's gonna change the storyline. But he's such a big pitch kind of person that sure, there might be a little gnome in the game chillin in a tree that you can kill. Like those are the good things that come out of it. The bad things are like the just the shattered expectations when like I'm sorry.
Courtney Miller
You were about to say no, no, no. And that was the first, that was the first game that was open world that I ever experienced. How to have fun anytime, anywhere.
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Courtney Miller
Open World is my favorite within reason. I like Open World to this day. Yeah, I think, I think it's maybe the ADD in me that is just like, oh, I can go over and do this thing and I can finish that task later.
Damien Haas
I didn't know you had add.
Courtney Miller
It's undiagnosed, but it's just so apparent in, in my being stimulated and everything. I'm sure if I like, wanted to. To get it officially diagnosed, I could, but it's like, I wouldn't want to take medication anyway because I'm just. I just prefer not to take that stuff.
Damien Haas
But no, I was just relating because, like, I got the OCD label later in life and it was just like, like, I understand why I'm like this now. So.
Courtney Miller
Yes, no, yeah, I've had, I've had a little bit of that, but with something else that we can talk about off the podcast because it's really odd. But yeah, and then Knights of the Old Republic was another one of those games that I was obsessed with and it's like, it's so sad. It's also like, I tried playing it recently and it's like kind of a bad game. The story is good, but the maps are so insanely large for no reason.
Damien Haas
Empty. What a beautiful time, though, in gaming where, like, you didn't have the capacity, or maybe we were just young enough, but you didn't have the capacity to be like, this is a bad game. I don't get it.
Courtney Miller
I know.
Damien Haas
Like, you just have beautiful memories of it. Like, I remember being a teenager and getting Digimon world for the PlayStation 1. It is universally despised as a wretchedly bad game.
Courtney Miller
Wait, what game?
Damien Haas
Digimon World.
Courtney Miller
Oh, okay. I was like, what?
Damien Haas
So. Oh, no, not Kotor. Not so. I remember, like, playing it and having a really hard time and just constantly thinking to myself, wow, this game is really hard. I need to get better at it as opposed to being like, this is trash. And I'm like, what a nice little gift of ignorance. I kind of wish I had that naivete still.
Courtney Miller
I know when we got to that age where you start hearing people criticizing games like that I was like, what?
Damien Haas
Like, yeah, yeah.
Courtney Miller
I don't understand, but I kind of do now. When you look at certain games and how they're, how they're done. But I think I love, like, it's cool because I was obsessed with Halo growing up and now there's Destiny, which is like a kind of an open.
Damien Haas
World Halo, it's a spiritual successor made by the same people. Bunger.
Courtney Miller
Exactly. Bungie is great. Yeah. Knights of the Old Republic. I heard that they were going to try and make a series out of that era and I was like, oh my God, that would be so cool to be like, in that. You ever just like hear about projects that are like literally your soul and you just wish you could be a part of it, but you don't know how.
Damien Haas
Oh yeah, Courtney. I'm a voice actor. I constantly get emails for auditions where I'm like, all my dreams are right in front of me. Am I going to go for it or let it slip? And then if you don't book it, you have to be like, that's okay, everything's chill. I got time. Oh, what was I going to say? Right before the project thing, you were talking about Silver Republic. Oh yeah. That's always been sort of my problem with Star wars in general. And it's gotten better. I like Star Wars a lot, but I'm not a fan that gets like upset about things. If something is off of my expectations, I don't care. But I get why people do. But I think Star wars historically has been a very much like a tell don't show kind of series where like someone will show up and they'll be like, that's General Parkus. Don't you know he did the beatbop run in 48 bleples and he once battled all the Bleeples. And I'm like, show me the battle with the peoples and show him all that stuff. They just like show a dude in robes, like, yes, you have heard of my tales. And I'm like, there's only so much that you can do and still have me go like, uh huh. So I guess he's really cool. I hit it.
Courtney Miller
So I'm trying to think of other video games.
Damien Haas
I mean, Final Fantasy was huge for me.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, that's right.
Damien Haas
Love Final Fantasy. And it was my sister's game. So I remember it being the kind of thing where it was like I was never allowed to play it at first because it would be like, no, you're going to overwrite her saves. You can't do that. But my sister and I had our own individual memory cards. And so I remember one day being like, hey, I now have enough knowledge to know how this console works. Like, I'm going to go ahead and play this game, if that's cool, because this is nothing to do with her memory card. And changed my life.
Courtney Miller
Hell, yeah.
Damien Haas
I also was of the age to rent Super Nintendo games from Blockbuster.
Courtney Miller
Oh, Blockbuster.
Damien Haas
So many bad games. So many good games. God, I miss it.
Courtney Miller
God, I miss Blockbuster. That was the coolest store. It's really sad that it's not a thing anymore. I mean, I get that the business model itself was kind of not the best, but the fact that you could go into a store and, like, literally plan an entire weekend, like, the snacks, the candy, the movies, the video games, the posters, like, the toys were all there.
Damien Haas
Loved it.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. It was a party. Going to Blockbuster. I remember if I heard my mom was going, I'd be like, oh, I want to go with you.
Damien Haas
Same. I would always be like, oh, can I come? And can I pick something out?
Courtney Miller
Like, yeah, it was such a fun place. We used to have one really close to me.
Damien Haas
Same, same.
Courtney Miller
Gone now.
Damien Haas
It was one of the few places I could go on a. On a bike. Did you. Did you, like, bike around your neighborhood and stuff?
Courtney Miller
Yes. I could have biked to Blockbuster. I usually bike to Carl's junior After a sleepover.
Damien Haas
Oh, that's cool. I never did food stuff as a kid, but it would always be like, do you want to go to Kmart and just look at the toys? Like, yep.
Courtney Miller
Okay. So, yeah, I guess that kind of carried into the next question, which was at the Pixel Punch thing first. Video game memories, perhaps. So, yeah, I hope that answered the question. Pixel Punch. Oh, this is a cute one. This isn't so much about games or anything. This is from Elstagram. And the question is, not to be cliche, but what would you tell your younger self?
Damien Haas
Do you have anything in the barrel ready to go?
Courtney Miller
I mean, there's a lot of things. I mean, there's also things where. Actually, one of the things that I was working through in therapy was, like, growing up, the popular girls would kind of shame anyone that tried in terms of looking cute. And I had been friends with those girls in elementary school and into middle school, and every time I tried to curl my hair or wear cute boots or dress up, they would kind of heckle me and tease me about having curly hair or, wow, why are you dressed so like that for? Just school. What the hell? Like, when they're obviously dressing so nice and so pretty. You can see pictures of me all through, like, senior year, junior. All through high school, I was always wearing hoodies, jeans, or like, track pants and. And like, maybe a razorback, like, tank top similar to this. And if I curled my hair, they. They just, like, would glare at you. And it was very subtle sometimes. And they would be like, they would, like, laugh at a girl who once would like to wear high heels sometimes. And so, like, to this day, I have a really hard time looking pretty at things where I don't need to look pretty. Like, vidcon and stuff. I'm like, yeah, it's fun. I can dress up and it's a show and it's a good time. But yeah, like, I ultimately, I dress for comfort and it's. And not just physical comfort, like emotional comfort. So I wish I could tell my younger self, hey, these girls are putting you down because they're threatened by you and they don't want you to look prettier than them. Fuck them. Wear and look however you want.
Damien Haas
What weak humans they are. Like, absolutely. I straight up pity people who, like, can't raise themselves up so they keep others down. Like, that's the lowest form of, like, I don't know. It's just. It's just so animal to me. It's not human.
Courtney Miller
It's crazy how, like, people need to shake the idea, like, other humans don't exist for you. Like, we are all existing in our own space and we can all do whatever we want with our own space as long as we're not hurting anyone.
Damien Haas
Exactly.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. So I, even to this day, I struggle with. I own skirts. I rarely wear them. I own nice high heels and boots. And I did have a period of time where I would try and wear those sometimes. But then I be like, I feel ridiculous because I'm like, wow, some. Someone in the corner is going, wow, why is she trying so hard? Like, that is that voice that I was always afraid of. And I wish I could tell. Yeah. My younger self. Hey, it's okay.
Damien Haas
Yeah, that's. That's really sweet. I'm sorry you had to go through that.
Courtney Miller
It's all right. I think it's just like. I think a lot of girls unfortunately, maybe went through that. But what about you? What, what, what. What would you tell younger you?
Damien Haas
I was trying to think, and I feel like I've answered this question before, like it's in some interview or some something. But honestly, today I kind of feel like it may be a cop out Answer. But I don't think I. I don't think I would do that. I don't think I would say anything because for all my struggles, all of. And this goes for anybody, like, all your mental turmoil, anything you go through, it does make the person you are, absolutely. The mistakes very much included. So I don't know what my life would be like had I had any extra knowledge. And I like where I'm at now. I really do. So if anything, if anything, I might say something to the effect of like, hey, you have ocd. You need to, like, lighten up a little bit and learn that, like, it's okay to stray off the straight and narrow every now and then.
Courtney Miller
I can relate to that in a not so much. No CD sense. But I get that. And yeah, ultimately there are no regrets in life. But I mean, if. I guess I would frame the question more so, like, if I were to find someone who is clearly on the same path. I lately really wanted to, like. I've gotten more and more intrigued by coming becoming a high school film teacher because I just really want to help kids like that, like, that are dealing with that stuff and also just giving them good taste in movies and games and stuff. Because we. We have good taste, I think.
Damien Haas
I think so. Yeah. I think I've had the. I've had the, like, fantasy of being a teacher as well. I think my fear is that, like, I think a lot of teachers start out super gung ho and happy, and then, like, the meanness of youth just beats it out of there.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, dude, I believe it. And you're not getting paid enough, so how can you feel happy about anything? But I would hope that if it's an elective, I would feel okay. Yeah, but I think I like that answer, though, that you wouldn't tell them anything. It makes sense.
Damien Haas
Thanks.
Courtney Miller
The next question is from Chloe DT100 or Chloe DT00. Favorite childhood cartoons and did they shape the type of humor you have today?
Damien Haas
Yeah, I was. I was a big Nicktoons and Cartoon Network kind of person. Didn't ever do the Disney stuff, to be honest with you. Which is why it was so ironic that I ended up working on the Disney Channel. But Nickelodeon stuff. I loved the Angry Beavers. I loved Invader Zim, which definitely influenced my humor. It's dark as hell for a children's show. Cartoon Network stuff. I loved Ed Edd N Eddy, Courage, the Cowardly Dog. Again, a spooky, funny show. Dexter's Lab was like, eh for me. Loved Powerpuff Girls.
Courtney Miller
Oh, yeah.
Damien Haas
Hated Jimmy Neutron with a passion.
Courtney Miller
Why did you hate it?
Damien Haas
Oh, it just is so nestled in that uncanny valley of like, everybody looks horrible and disgusting in their heads are horrifically misshapen. Yeah. It's just there's no shading on their bodies and his head is the size of a peanut and also somehow like a medium sized dog. And he's an. He's also. We can curse on this podcast. He's an asshole. He doesn't learn anything ever. He's like, that's my latest invention, Goddard. And then he ruins everything for 30 minutes and then wonders why everyone has a problem with him. And I'm like, I hate this kid just as much as the villains.
Courtney Miller
His voice. What was his voice? Ah, Goddard, what are we.
Damien Haas
What do we have today, Goddard? It's, I think Brain Blast. And like, the voice actress who plays him is great. She's awesome. I just. I hate the character.
Courtney Miller
Yeah.
Damien Haas
How about you, Courtney?
Courtney Miller
What are your favorite cartoons? I watched a lot of spongebob.
Damien Haas
Yes. How could I forget?
Courtney Miller
Yeah. That's classic. I think. I think Nickelodeon just. And Cartoon Network definitely did cartoons better. Definitely did cartoons better than Disney. Johnny Bravo. I did watch quite a bit. I loved all the sexy girls that he would come across and hit on. Like, how did I ever think I was straight? Honestly? How?
Damien Haas
Because when you're a little kid, you probably have, like, ideas and thoughts and feelings, but you're not sitting down and contemplating, like, so sexuality is a river that I'm rafting down.
Courtney Miller
Yeah.
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Courtney Miller
I loved. I loved Dexter's Lab because it totally reminded me of my relationship with my siblings. Of like, don't touch my things. Stay out of my space. What else? I actually loved Jimmy Neutron at the time, though. I. I was bothered by the proportions.
Damien Haas
They're nightmarish.
Courtney Miller
They then when they had to have, like, romance stories between these children, it felt weird. It definitely was like this Isn't. I don't believe this. I don't know why I liked it so much.
Damien Haas
Do you know why they. They canceled it?
Courtney Miller
Why?
Damien Haas
Because the same studio spent a bunch of money to work on a film called the Ant Bully, which was equally.
Courtney Miller
Hard to look at.
Damien Haas
And it was a cinematic film failure. It also made no money, and they spent so much and lost so much on it that the entire studio is like, well, we're. We don't make cartoons anymore, which sucks.
Courtney Miller
But I do remember the Jimmy Neutron movie, which was kind of iconic from what I remember.
Damien Haas
That was okay.
Courtney Miller
That was okay for me. But yeah, the animation. I, for one, I remember Fairly oddparents was a good contest and great story, but Timmy's voice. I just remember. I think I've told this story before where I would. I would be watching George Lopez till three in the morning, and then I'd fall asleep and then wake up to Cosmo Wanda. And I hated his voice so much that it was hard to get past.
Damien Haas
Sometimes because the voice actress is also in literally everything you've ever heard, ever.
Courtney Miller
Oh, I'm sure. Because I see the pictures of, like, I voice all of these characters, and that's, like, everything I've ever watched. That's funny. Do you remember that show? I don't know. Maybe. It was on Disney, like, about being 16, and it was like a group of kids at the mall, and they would just always sit at that table and drink smoothies and like, talk about drama.
Damien Haas
Oh, wait, are you talking, like, Daria?
Courtney Miller
Not Weekenders. Not Daria. I think it was called, like, 16 or something, where one girl worked at, like, a lemon booth and she sold. It was like kind of like a hot dog on a stick.
Damien Haas
Why does that sound so familiar?
Courtney Miller
And they're always at the mall. There was one skater dude. Like, the girls were pretty.
Damien Haas
And this might be the generational thing, because this is after my time, but Are you talking about Total Drama Island?
Courtney Miller
No, but that was the same animators.
Damien Haas
Okay, well, because that's what I'm like. I did that. Missed me entirely. In the meantime, while you're thinking of that, I want to give special shout outs to, like, the weird Saturday morning cartoons. Like the one Saturday morning recess. Recess was really good. The Weekenders, which Kevin just typed was really good. Oh, the. Kevin just sent us a message, y'all. The show you're talking about is called 6:16. Oh, I've never even seen.
Courtney Miller
I'm showing the picture in the video right now, but yeah, like, the number six and then teen and It's. It was so. It's kind of cool how the cast is like pretty diverse. Ish. Yeah, just like a bunch of cool teenagers at the mall.
Damien Haas
I think that's probably the kind of show that you didn't watch as a teenager though. You watched maybe like a 12 year old in excitement for being like, yeah, I'm an older kid. I'm watching this older kid show.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, it's like when you're like a little kid and you get your first Barbie. Like, clearly this is an adult female doll. It's aspirational, controversial. But you're talking about Saturday morning cartoon. Sorry.
Damien Haas
No, that's totally fine. In fact, I got so excited to talk about it, but I can't really think of any anymore. I will say Doug was better on Nickelodeon than the Disney version slash, Saturday morning cartoon version. Even in being in Germany watching the Saturday morning version of Sonic the Hedgehog. Not. Not the Toon Disney one. Not the like, whoa, chili dogs and whatever. There was like a very like gritty one that was kind of dope and I loved watching that.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, I never, I never got hugely into Sonic cartoons. I. But like sometimes you just turn it on and be like, what is this? And you like watch the episode and then you move on. Teen Titans.
Damien Haas
Teen Titans.
Courtney Miller
Original Teen Titans. Especially when it got like really dark sometimes with like Robin and Slade. Dude, that storyline was incredible. I loved their group too. And I, I gotta say, I kind of hated the, the relaunch where like, where Raven was like this cutesy character. Really upsetting. Really, really upsetting.
Damien Haas
They're doing a really good job with that show though. The difficulty is that they, they're suffering from their own success as a franchise because the first time they nailed the style for like, people to watch like teenage versions of DC superheroes and like, care about it. Even if you don't care about superheroes. They FL and nailed it. They did it. And Teen Titans Go, the new one could have on its own been just as good and just as fine, even though it's an extremely different style. But now you can't help but compare the two. And if you truly love one more than the other, you're always going to have this little bit of a. Just a little bit of a rub. Not feeling it. Speaking of dark shows, there is one more. Oh, Kevin's asking about an Invader Invader.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, I never, I never got into Invader Zim.
Damien Haas
It was just a really dark show that was made by a comic book writer that had previously done like, only very adult Comics. I don't. I don't know if they were. I don't think they were like sexual, but I think it was just. The humor was just so dark. And how did it shape my humor? I think my humor was already kind of there, but I was like, oh, this show is. Is here for me. And, you know, finding humor in the darkness of things. And like, the show would frame humans as being like these horribly gross creatures. And it was just kind of funny to be like an angsty teen and like laugh at that. But the thing I did want to say before Kevin had suggested that, which is in the same vein. This is going to be a generational thing for us. Did you ever know the show Mighty Max?
Courtney Miller
Mighty Max sounds really familiar.
Damien Haas
I might have talked about it before. Maybe a.
Courtney Miller
No, I think I'm going to look it up. So it was.
Damien Haas
It was an older, like Saturday morning cartoon back in the days where a lot of people don't know this, probably this generation. Cartoons used to be made in conjunction with toys at the same time so that you could sell those toys. He, man, he. Exactly. It's exactly the same thing. So Mighty Max was the quote, unquote, boy version. And I know that's not what we would generally say, but that's how they marketed it, the boy version of Polly Pocket. So they would sell these little playsets where you could open it up and yeah, it's like a little dungeon. You'd be like you. But it was about this kid that got a hat that. And it was a very special hat that had these amazing universal powers. It's like the Hat of Power or something like that. And it warped him to this crazy D and D style world where he's. His. His companions are like this huge barbarian guy. I think his name was Victor. And then this like foul, like Birdman wizard thing. But it's so dark. I remember the last episode. I'm going to spoil it because it's from like the 80s, early 90s. Everyone dies, they fail, they fail. And the. The thing that they leave you on is the last minute the hat sends Max back in time so that he can start the whole adventure over again. And it's kind of like stuck in a time loop that ends with his friends dying. It's like what this is for children?
Courtney Miller
Holy smokes.
Damien Haas
I loved it. So good. So dark.
Courtney Miller
Crazy Infinity War stole that premise.
Damien Haas
That's true. It's the Time Machine by, I think H.G. wells. That was. Definitely came.
Courtney Miller
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Damien Haas
Is that. I have to look up who did the time machine. Yeah, H.G. wells. Okay, cool. I'm not dumb.
Courtney Miller
I really loved actually a weird cartoon that I was super into but only existed online or unless you found the DVD or sometimes if you bought the doll, you get the DVD with it. Because I was super. Well, it was a kind of girly thing is my scene dolls which were. So Barbie was a thing, right? And then this other company came out with Bratz, which was like kind of for older, like, like more preteen kids. And then so Barbie tried to come up with flava. What's your flava? Basically copying Bratz, dude. Toy companies were low key savage with their copying of each other. But then Barbie came out with my scene which was like kind of like Bratz and Barbie were married together where it was the same height and Barbie doll but their lips were bigger and their hair was more voluptuous. Bratz, multiracial cast. And like they would had these movies on Barbie.com because you could go, go to Barbie.com and then you could switch to the Polly Pocket side or the my scene side and you can watch animations and cartoons of these 16 year olds that somehow go to Jamaica by themselves.
Damien Haas
Like before the time of being an influencer. No, I can't now.
Courtney Miller
But I mean, yeah, I guess you're right. But yeah, so I was very much into those cartoons. They had like a jamming in Jamaica. They always masquerade all these crazy little cartoons that came with the dolls.
Damien Haas
Did that. Was that a success as a toy? Because I know Bratz just blew up because like you said, Bratz was definitely more diverse because like with Barbie it was like, oh, don't worry, she has a black friend, whereas she has. It's like brown, whatever you look like. That is the normal word. Advertising. All of this.
Courtney Miller
Like there was straight up a very strong period of time where being a brunette was diverse because like straight up in like the whole cast of my scene, you couldn't even tell. Like this one girl, her name was Noli or Nolay and was like, is she Asian? I don't know. You kind of just. It's like they made them like androgynously different looking interesting, like playing it as safe as they possibly.
Damien Haas
So it was like it was made by like a boardroom of like white men probably without consulting anybody else.
Courtney Miller
And like all the, all the boys, all they had the weirdest names like Sutton and like, like that dude plays lacrosse.
Damien Haas
I've never even seen something that plays lacrosse.
Courtney Miller
He had a shell necklace.
Damien Haas
We all did though, is. Were There ever any toys that, like, maybe even ones that you didn't have, but just like 90s toys or early 2000s toys that you just see commercials for that like, stick with you to this day?
Courtney Miller
Yeah, dude. The immediate one that goes to my head is the robot dinosaur that could move by itself and walk around.
Damien Haas
Is that Zoomer Dino or Zoomer Dino? Too recent.
Courtney Miller
Let me see. But what were you saying?
Damien Haas
I remember there would always be these, like, not board games, but like self contained games like Bullseye Ball where it would be like, go. There's a trampoline on the whatever. And you've got to throw these balls to get them. But make sure you do it before, before the timer. Or you get sprayed and be like water. But then in reality when you play it, it's just like dink, dink. Ah, it's in my eye. Like that's. It's never as cool as.
Courtney Miller
The commercials were so epic.
Damien Haas
They were like, they wanted you to feel that adrenaline of like, open up. Mouse trap. Good luck, you know?
Courtney Miller
Yeah, dude. For me. So it was called the Robo Raptor. I'll show you the picture.
Damien Haas
Please.
Courtney Miller
No, no, I don't want it on ebay. Ebay.
Damien Haas
Don't want it on ebay. Get it out of there.
Courtney Miller
They were like this. Oh, I'm showing a picture to Damien right now. It basically looks like a robotic raptor. And I just thought that was the coolest thing because we couldn't have pets. We had our cats, but then they got eaten by coyotes. And then I didn't have anything else after that. Those were the coolest. And for real pets, I always. Yeah, animatronics were always so interesting to me. So, like, having your own animatronic pet was the coolest thing.
Damien Haas
You just blew my mind. I think the first one of those that was like readily available during our childhood was that dog with the like, almost emoji, like LCD screen eyes or LED eyes. I can't even remember what that was called, but like, holy crap.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, dude.
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Courtney Miller
Yeah.
Damien Haas
Instead it was like, this is a cheetah with a water gun. No, this is a polar bear that turns into a bat.
Courtney Miller
And you're like, I think we. I think my brothers had the cheetah.
Damien Haas
Oh, the cheetah was great because you could actually fill it with water.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. I can't remember.
Damien Haas
Laser people.
Courtney Miller
So I had Barbies and I was super obsessed with Barbies. And then my older brother and he had GI Joes, like a ton of them. He had so many. I think, because my mom loved them too. So, like, if she liked them, she would buy you a ton of them. Them. So I would mix those with my Barbies and stuff. But then also my little brothers had hundreds. I think of Hot Wheels cars.
Damien Haas
Hot Wheels were where it's at for sure.
Courtney Miller
Like, did they have the tracks? Yeah. Yes. We build crazy tracks. And then there was this even. There's a movie, the entire movie is on YouTube called World Race. And it was like these really weird looking cars with superpowers. And you had to race. You go. You have to go 300 miles per hour in order to activate the portal. And then you go into this different world that has this track, but it's all on YouTube and so, so dorky.
Damien Haas
Amazing. Do you remember which tracks you had for Hot Wheels? I remember I got the, like the car wash one at a garage sale. And then I had crisscross crash where you just make the track and like a four leaf clover pattern. And it's like they're going to go until they don't.
Courtney Miller
And then they hit each other.
Damien Haas
Yes, Chris.
Courtney Miller
And then like my dad, when you get like the thing that speeds them up, that's the coolest little device.
Damien Haas
Yeah. The crisscross crash one was like. I remember it had a dial for the amount of speed that you wanted. And if you wanted it like too fast, usually it would just fly straight off the track and probably hit something. And then a parent would yell from the other room, like, what was that? You're like, nothing.
Courtney Miller
Yeah.
Damien Haas
I think the biggest disappointment one I had was called Metal Molder. It was another one where it was just like an awesome, like, commercial of like people hammering things with metal. And it's like, you can make real crap out of metal kids. And you know they'd show like, oh, cool. I made jewelry, like a cool skull ring. And so I ended up getting it for Christmas and it didn't work. Like, I guess my version was broken. But, like, you would get these, like, little pellets of like, quote unquote metal. I think it was plastic. And you would, like, pour it into these molds. It was like an Easy Bake Oven, but, like, for future blacksmiths, I guess.
Courtney Miller
Wow, that's awesome. I never. I never had the Easy Bake Oven. That was the one that my friends had. I would be like, oh, my God.
Damien Haas
I always kind of wanted more.
Courtney Miller
Just like, so weird. They're like basically microwaving little baby cakes, I guess.
Damien Haas
But it's not even a microwave. It's done with like a 10 watt light bulb. So it's like, oh, yeah. I would love to make a tiny cake over the course of eight hours.
Courtney Miller
Yes. It took a while.
Damien Haas
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
Oh, my gosh. So let's. Let's go to this next one. I'm gonna this one from at CE Karen Tit instead. What are some of the movies you watched at too young of an age? I remember watching things like Predator and seven when I was a child, which probably explains why gore, gore, horror has no effect on me as opposed to suspense horror.
Damien Haas
I mean, I didn't really have any restrictions when it came to movies and stuff. Yeah, my parents were dope.
Courtney Miller
Oh, my God.
Damien Haas
But I mean, if there was like a nude scene or whatever, they tell me to, like close my eyes and all that stuff, which is probably why I thought sex or anything mentally relating to sex was bad for a very long time. It took a long time to be like, oh, it's not actually bad. You just had to close your eyes because you were a kid. But yeah, I remember, like, we would watch our movies and I was always there for it. And maybe I'd play a handheld game at the same time, but it was like movie night. And so I remember. I don't. I don't even remember what the movie was, but I remember hearing my teachers talk about something one time and I, like overheard them and I walked over and I was like, oh, yeah, I saw that movie. That was good. And they were like, I don't think your parents would let you watch that one. I'm like, no. Then this happens and this guy's there and they're like, do your parents know you watched it? I'm like, yeah, I was. I was like, with them, it was a good. Can we talk about this like adults that we Are like, you know, I was that kid.
Courtney Miller
Gosh.
Damien Haas
Yeah. How about you? What was your situation like?
Courtney Miller
Like, so I was very restricted to actually, like, very restricted. Even like this weird thing on Sundays. I wasn't allowed to watch TV or movies or anything unless it was like the Book of Mormon stories that were weird. Weird cartoons basically explaining the Book of Mormon and the Holy Bible stories, which I wonder if I like went back and watched some of those. Like, if there was anything weird or not. Okay. But a lot of them was like, lying is bad. Like stuff like that. Or like dating, like weird claymation. Yeah, lying's fine. Lie whenever, just lie.
Damien Haas
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
But I remember watching Mars Attacks when I was way too young.
Damien Haas
Yeah, that was a good one.
Courtney Miller
That one was weird and like, still kind of when I think back on it, it was really scary to me.
Damien Haas
Yeah, I think I was a little scared of that one actually, just because.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. And then I wasn't allowed to watch really, like, scary movies ever because my mom. My mom instilled in me. And I think I've mentioned this a little bit where it's like, you can't watch those and humor the idea of dark spirits in your home because dark spirits will be in your home.
Damien Haas
Wow, that's a lot of pressure.
Courtney Miller
So I wasn't really watching scary movies until I was in like my late teens. Even then I like, what was your first thriller? I remember the first, like, scary movie, but it was a thriller. Was the Knowing that Nicholas Cage movie.
Damien Haas
I don't know where I know that one.
Courtney Miller
It's so weird. It is so weird. I can't even explain to you what's happening. Basically the world's ending and he, like, somehow knows it's ending. Then I think in high school I finally watched the Ring, that one film.
Damien Haas
Scary. Wow.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. And then like, which one's the one that's like Seven Days.
Damien Haas
That's the Ring. Yes.
Courtney Miller
Yeah.
Damien Haas
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
And then like I watched signs. I think signs when I was really little freaked me the out and I had nightmares and couldn't sleep for months and was just like scared of aliens coming. Yeah. I think that one was the one that turned me off from scary movies for years and years and years. And like, so I still to this day, I can't watch them alone. Even like murder stuff I'm like, kind of okay with, but I'm usually. I have to watch with somebody.
Damien Haas
It's usually the opposite for a lot of people because, like, you know, believe in what you're going to believe in. Some people do acknowledge you Know, ghost spirits, they are real or could be real, but murders are definitely real. So I know a lot of people watch something with, like, a goblin or a monster, and they're like, who cares? And with the murder, it's like, yeah, people are evil. They can do that.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. I don't know why I, like, I would rather watch a murderer movie than a ghost movie, even though one is much more likely than the other.
Damien Haas
Well, maybe it's because you already deal with the possibility of, like, that's a real dark thing that exists in the world directly in front of your eyes, and it's, you know, demonstrable and all that stuff. So you already have sort of walls built up to be like, I can. I deal with this all the time. Whereas, like, ghosts and stuff, your imagination runs away and you don't have the toolkit to actually rationalize. Like, well, if there was a ghost, I would just, you know, do it.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, like those. Those spooky, fucked up video games where it's like, there's ghosts in the halls and you open a door and you see a face. I'm like, new sir. I see clips on Twitter and stuff and I'm like, absolutely fruitful.
Damien Haas
No, do you know which one you're talking about? Because I kind of want to play it. I love horror.
Courtney Miller
I don't know.
Damien Haas
I really do.
Courtney Miller
I'm, like, so disinterested when I see those clips that I don't even want to know what they were. The only time I ever could watch someone play them was PewDiePie because he was so silly.
Damien Haas
I was literally about to say that. Courtney. Yeah, that's crazy, because I. That's the whole reason I found pewdiepie because he was playing some, like, terrifying Japanese horror game for the PS3. It was like Blood Parasite or something. It was horrifying and I loved it. And I was like, who is this guy? This is fun.
Courtney Miller
And I would always watch his, like, Funny Moments compilations, and it was so much of those spooky. So that's probably why I didn't know what the games are called because they're always like, you know, a compilation.
Damien Haas
He was famous for doing Amnesia, the Dark Descent, where he'd, like, have a statue he'd call a Stefano, and he'd be like, Stefano. And that's where, like, barrels. Barrels, Stefano.
Courtney Miller
Those old days.
Damien Haas
Those are the days.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. I think in terms of movies, I was fairly restricted. And when I finally. I think it was like when my parents got divorced and I had a different support system in my life at that time, like, knew, like, my dad was seeing someone who they were married for a while and I still considered consider her like a member of my family. She was like an awesome stepmom and was basically the one who loosened. Helped loosen the reins on my life of like, I was allowed to wear. I wouldn't be allowed to wear this shirt, like, stuff like that. But when we were with her, like, then my dad, I think more my dad was the careless one. So like, then we were allowed to watch Super Bad or Pineapple Express, all those movies. But those later on, I'm trying to think of other Vivid movies I watched. I had so much Disney shoved down my throat. And I don't really complain, but because since my grandmother was an animator for forever, which is so cool, so I had to watch it.
Damien Haas
Do you think it also came from, like, was that a safer bet from your mom that you can watch Disney because we know Disney's okay, or was it still your dad letting you?
Courtney Miller
No, that was from my mom. My mom had a lot of dictation. Like, she probably let me buy Fable 2 because she liked the artwork on the COVID but she didn't. She wasn't a huge fan of Harry Potter because of the magic. Because that's like, not real.
Damien Haas
I know a lot of people because I grew up in Georgia. Same thing where people be like, you're allowed to read those books. And I'm like, what is life like for you?
Courtney Miller
Yeah.
Damien Haas
No disrespect, but like, wow.
Courtney Miller
So odd. A lot of stuff I had to watch was like, educational or whatever she wanted me to watch.
Damien Haas
So sorry, that just unlocked a memory because we were talking about video game stuff. I think I had one before Diablo, even though it was really mine. But my dad would play doom or doom 2 on the computer every night, or Duke Nukem or Wolfenstein, all those, like, you know, first person shooters, like very primitive ones. He loved those. And so I'd watch him every single night. It was like a very special ritual. And then as I got a little bit older, probably starting like five or six, I would like play after he was done. I'd be like, can I try? Like, can I do it? And I remember, like, I had some neighbors that were pretty religious and they were like, shocked that I could play that. To be like, you actually play those games? They're devil games. And I remember. But I remember being so surprised by that because I didn't have the scope of understanding of like, why people believe what they believe. And I always knew to be respectful. But I didn't, I just didn't get it. And I tried to like reason with them by being like, well no, in this game you're killing demons, you are defeating the devil. Isn't that a good thing? And they were like, no, it's the imagery. And I was like, I don't, okay, I don't get it. But you know, and no, again, if that's how someone feels, is how they feel. But I just didn't have a toolkit as like a six year old to be like, oh yeah, you know, I agree.
Courtney Miller
I have, I have weirdly vivid memories of my older brother. He would play like games where it was like you're in a SWAT team and it was like a mix of video and like I have no idea what it was called but it was very strange. Like just hunting for someone in a house that was under arrest.
Damien Haas
Did your brother play Night Trap? Maybe that was the game that like made there be game ratings because similarly like again you're watching these like girls have a party and you're in the police trying to stop the killers by looking at different cameras of like actual like video footage and stuff. But it was like a, it was like a political thing where I think some like senator was like, there's a game where you're trying to trap women in a house. And it was like, that's not what the game is about. And they were like, no, we need to get this out of the hands of our kids. They're going to do drugs because of it.
Courtney Miller
And I'm so thankful that we were raised with this technology and with these things around us because we, with, with being able to understand them. We are not those people. Like because, because these people don't understand something, they are opposed to it. And instead of wanting to understand it, they just think it doesn't make sense.
Damien Haas
I wonder if we'll ever become those people though. I wonder if there's going to be a leap in technology where like we, without even realizing it, we just sort of miss the boat. And I don't mean like in the next five, ten years, I mean like if we're 50, 60.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. I mean I hated TikTok when it first was a thing. I was so opposed to it. I hope that we never become those people. I like to think that we're just in general very open minded people so will at least have that in our advantage and like being tech savvy that we could at least try and figure those things out. But I think we're also in the age where like consumption, a lot of it was surrounded around kids and like fun stuff, games was about kids. Whereas all those kids have now grown up and these adults are playing video games and video games are all about.
Damien Haas
Older people playing them and we have disposable income now.
Courtney Miller
Yeah.
Damien Haas
Whereas like before it would be like, you know, and even, even at best you're marketing to their parents. Yeah, it's all sort of pointed at adults in a way, which is exactly. The one thing that I think is bizarre though about that is when I was a kid and I played whatever game I wanted the most I'd use the Internet for would be to like look up cheat codes and that would be fun, but there wasn't that social aspect to it. Whereas I remember playing like runescape and that was my first like game where there was a lot of other people and I immediately just got kind of like shat on for like being new at the game. And I'm like, there aren't too many interactions in life or too many situations where like a 10 year old and a 30 year old would be like on the same plane and playing field. And so it's interesting where like socially you're like, how does that affect people? Like kids over Xbox Live are toxic as hell. Like where's that coming from? And what's that going to do to the psyche?
Courtney Miller
Yeah, I mean that's still like a thing. Yeah. In rust and stuff there's just like toxicity in, in the gameplay. Did you ever play or. It wasn't really something you could play or maybe there was games but I never did them. Did you ever hear about Gaia online?
Damien Haas
I didn't do Gaia. I did Ragnarok.
Courtney Miller
I don't know Ragnarok.
Damien Haas
Similar, similar Gaia.
Courtney Miller
For those who don't know, it was like a very. I'm sure tons of Weebs played it and used it. It was basically where it was like Club Penguin, but with none of the games. You just wear this pretty anime character that would walk around towns and like chat with people and then there was forums that people would role play and stuff like that. That was my first time ever seeing anything like that.
Damien Haas
Gaia and Ragnarok, I'm looking it up now. They basically look the same.
Courtney Miller
That's crazy. And then Club Penguin. I was very into Club Penguin.
Damien Haas
Wow. I didn't do that one. I did neopets. Neopets. What was your. What was your Neopet?
Courtney Miller
Or there was a unicorn that I loved very much. I don't remember the names, but I always tried different ones. And I was. I was not very good at maintaining them because, like, I wasn't allowed to go on the computer very much. So they would always be famished and things like that.
Damien Haas
My favorite one was I did the griffin at first and I think it's griffin, but I ended up switching to Aara. Akara was cool because it was a little, like. It was like a little cat looking thing, but it had tendril earring ears.
Courtney Miller
Oh, I do remember. I do remember.
Damien Haas
But there was like a really thin, live cat looking one with tendrils. I'm not talking about that one. I'm talking about the fluffy one. Like, I feel like for neopets, they would end up designing like three different concepts for the same one. And then some executive would be like, great, print them all. And you're like, well, no.
Courtney Miller
Oh my gosh.
Damien Haas
This is the tendril cat. They're like, nope, we got three tendril cats.
Courtney Miller
Oh my God. All right, we're running a little short on time.
Damien Haas
No. Had so much fun.
Courtney Miller
I know this is good stuff. Good childhood stuff. Like maybe we can do more episodes with other people.
Damien Haas
Sorry if I talk more about it too much. I've just been so excited to.
Courtney Miller
Absolutely not my guy. So the next segment we have planned is a new segment that's basically called what I'm Watching. What I'm Watching. We watch things. Want to know what we're watching?
Damien Haas
Oops.
Courtney Miller
Time. Hold on.
Damien Haas
I am going to not say a show, actually.
Courtney Miller
No.
Damien Haas
There's so many things. I've been hooked on a YouTube channel lately called Extra History. It's a. It's really fun. They've been doing it for a few years now, so it's like really sort of rudimentary drawings, but fun and like a lot of personality to just sort of. They'll. They'll basically narrate in a very digestible way something that happened in history that maybe you just need more context about. About.
Courtney Miller
Nice.
Damien Haas
And they'll just like show and like act it out with these little like, not quite stick men, but like, is.
Courtney Miller
It cartoon animation or.
Damien Haas
It's not quite animation. It's like they might do like little like bits here and there. But I discovered it like maybe a month or two ago where I like was just sitting around. It was like midnight, but I wasn't ready to go to sleep. And I just thought to myself, I don't know enough about Hawaii and I'd like to. And I don't really know about its history, but before it was like straight up ruined by. And fetishized and fetishized by European culture and American culture.
Courtney Miller
Yeah.
Damien Haas
So I was like, I'd like to know about this. So I just googled like history of Hawaii. And then like one of the first things that came up was like the legacy of Kamehameha, who was the person that sort of unified all the islands to make it Hawaii as like one unit. And it was just like a four part series. And I was just like hooked. And I was like, this is great. And then the next one I clicked on was. Was like, yeah, right. Then the next one I clicked on was like about Mansa Musa, who was like the richest man to ever live ever. Like even by today's standards, the richest person, like he would travel and just by tipping people, change the economy and like make there be inflation. Like, people would kind of be mad when he visited because they're like, our entire economy is in shambles because you just dropped our yearly GDP in like a minute. It's just like interesting because I'm like, I missed out on that history because I, you know, I'm of European descent and I feel like a lot of American textbooks really focus on that. So it's like a black man was the richest man to ever live. Like, that's awesome to hear about. And then I was like, I don't know enough about the Byzantines. So right now I'm like learning about Justinian. And that's really cool.
Courtney Miller
Like, there's so much good educational stuff on YouTube that isn't like, it doesn't. I don't know why I got such a bad emotional attachment with, with educational stuff growing up. But like, there is some really cool stuff. Shane has showed me a lot of different things. Like this is what happens if you drink an entire bottle of soy sauce. Like weird, weird stories about like this man got a 711 hot dog and it was. It spread a virus through whatever. Like weird stories like that are real history like that. But I want to, I want to check out what you're watching as well.
Damien Haas
Extra history, extra, extra history.
Courtney Miller
My YouTube has been kind of growing garbage. I always watch on my tv. It's like harder to navigate. And I swear to God, I watched one drama tea spill video and my home page is literally okay because I use lo fi hip hop live streams a lot. And then I watched one drama video and now it's like, it's literally like live stream drama, live stream lo fi drama. Tea spill spill. Here's the tea drama. Like all these different channels and I'm like, God, I don't. Now I don't even want to go on YouTube anymore, so I need to vet it.
Damien Haas
It's so interesting how long the apps have been out for things like Xbox, PS4 phone, and how difficult it still is to navigate.
Courtney Miller
We'll get there. I think it's hard because you can only do so much with a controller, you know, and when the remote. Yeah, I haven't watched. Yeah, I haven't been watching, like, a ton. I've been in a weird rut where I just watched. I've been watching a lot of Netflix. I love that series. It's a series called Glow up, where it's, like, basically America's Next Top Model, but it's, like, with makeup artists and being given a prompt and. And doing, like, crazy, like, oh, you need to do this. The makeup for this play tonight on Broadway. Okay. Now you need to do this editorial photo shoot. And it's really cool because I love makeup. And then there was Next in Fashion, which was, like, a fashion.
Damien Haas
I did watch Next in Fashion. Yeah.
Courtney Miller
So good. And I'm so sadly not making another season. I think it was probably because it was too expensive and probably exhausting for people, but it was. That was really good.
Damien Haas
I also think it was kind of weird the way they did teams sometimes. Like, I feel like every. They wanted drama, but in reality, I would have just to have liked to have seen more cohesive ideas.
Courtney Miller
There were. There were teams that were like, oh, these people know each other, and they're. They seem great. And then there's people who literally met the day before, and, like, that was their downfall.
Damien Haas
And they had polar opposite, like, styles where someone's like, well, I want something a little bit more reserved. And someone else was like, I would like there to be a sparkly cheetah pattern, and if we could have fire coming out of it, that'd be great. And I'm like, well, that's not. Those two. Don't. That's not gonna work.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, it's not gonna work.
Damien Haas
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. But it was good. And then I've been trying to watch more movies that I've been putting off. Like, I finally watched Silence of the Lambs for the first time.
Damien Haas
Ooh, nice.
Courtney Miller
That was really good.
Damien Haas
What'd you think?
Courtney Miller
I thought it was amazing. I mean, it was scary and super intense. And luckily, my friend was staying with me, who had been social, like, distancing, quarantining, and stay with me for the weekend and got to watch it with her. And I'm just like, oh, I'M like, is she going to die? And she's like, can't tell you. I'm like.
Damien Haas
Oh, yeah. Was she like a great big fat person? Like, you know what you look like to me with a good bag and cheap shoe?
Courtney Miller
So good. Like, so good.
Damien Haas
So good.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. And then last night I watched 12 Years a Slave.
Damien Haas
Oh, wow.
Courtney Miller
Random. A random watch. It always was a very sad movie, but it, like hit me really hard this time around because, you know, I saw this tweet the other day. A tweet was like, white people calling the protests. Everything going on right now. It's like, God damn.
Damien Haas
Wow. Yep, yep. Yeah.
Courtney Miller
With the protests and everything going on right now.
Damien Haas
And there you go.
Courtney Miller
It hit a lot.
Damien Haas
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
I think it's just because we're in a huge awakening right now. So that movie was like. It just seems even more insane the way these people were treated anyway. Yeah, yeah. Other than that, I haven't been watching a ton.
Damien Haas
Sorry. One more thing specifically relating to that because I've always been really interested in Haiti and Haitian history as well. Well, watch the extra history on Haiti because it's incredible. It is the only successful slave revolt in the history of recorded history. And so they break down, like how it happened and why and what all the social classes were in Haiti and how the French Revolution and American Revolution both affected that all at once. But I think it was there that I saw like a, like a chart for like how long slavery had been going on compared to like, like how long it wasn't. So like, it was just. It's just. It's really eye openening. That's why I've been digging history more and more lately is just give me that, give me that context, that sweet context.
Courtney Miller
Well, I think that will conclude this segment of what I'm watching. You know, I'm glad we were talking about history because I think we're going to be learning about someone named John's history in this episode of Shoot Dude.
Damien Haas
Hey, Courtney. That was. That was a good. That was a good segue.
Courtney Miller
Thank you. Thank you very much.
Damien Haas
Shoot dude.
Courtney Miller
Shoot dude. Shoot dude. Shoot dude.
Damien Haas
Shoot dude.
Courtney Miller
Shoot dude.
Damien Haas
Shoot dude.
Courtney Miller
Shoot dude. And for those of you who don't know what a shoot dude is, these are basically viewer or listeners submitted stories that provoke a shoot dude. They're basically embarrassing moments or yikes moments that. That really suck that they happened. So we're gonna read these stories and we are going to determine if they are indeed a shoot dude or something else. Are you guys ready? Damien, would you like to read it or would you like me to read it?
Damien Haas
I can. I can do it. I don't think I've read one before.
Courtney Miller
I don't think I've. I didn't read it. I like to be surprised, so please read it.
Damien Haas
From John. I was just in a call presenting two weeks of findings over the course of half a dozen meetings. I was sharing my screen to go over a spreadsheet as a group. I always remember to turn off things like push notifications and other personal apps. However, I forgot something this time. I was talking to the clients on another monitor and I saw them start cracking up. Unsure what the issue is, I just kept going for another 10 seconds or so. Eventually I turned to the screen I'm sharing and see an email notification saying your receipt from Manscaped. I quickly closed it and then pretended it didn't happen for the remaining 30 minutes. Minutes. I have a pretty thick skin and so I'm already laughing about it, but it sure felt like a shoot dude.
Courtney Miller
Oh my gosh, Courtney, would you say.
Damien Haas
That'S a shoot dude?
Courtney Miller
I pretty. I think it's a pretty mild shoot dude. If it's a mild shoot dude, it's a. Yeah.
Damien Haas
Because I. Obviously it's embarrassing if people laugh at you for anything, even if it were something that you're super proud about.
Courtney Miller
Yeah.
Damien Haas
Like manscape. Let yourself be however you want to be, hygienic wise. Or trim your hair, let it grow. Who cares? Men, women, non binary, who cares? Do your thing. Live your life.
Courtney Miller
Honestly, I feel like if I saw that, I'd be like, oh, all right. Nice. Cool.
Damien Haas
Yeah. Be like, hey, sir, thank you for the. Thank you for the presentation. I just want to say I'm glad to know that you keep a trim down there.
Courtney Miller
Nice to know we have a well self disciplined, hygienic queen.
Damien Haas
Exactly. No, I think that's great. It is a little shoot dude though. Anything personal coming up, especially if you're very aware about the notifications.
Courtney Miller
And you're totally right, it sucks when you're just like laughed at in general. Even if it is something you're just legit proud about. So. Yeah.
Damien Haas
Yeah.
Courtney Miller
But yeah, I can't. I can't say I've ever experienced anything like that. Have you ever experienced something similar?
Damien Haas
It's not, it's not like an embarrassment thing or presentation thing, but I do audition for a lot of things, voiceover wise that are like very confidential. Like I have to sign non disclaimer closure agreements to even receive the email. And so sometimes I Have these panic moments where, like, that's the last thing left up on my screen. So I'll open my computer around friends, then immediately be like, well, hey, nothing is there. There's no new thing from that really cool property that you really like coming out. Like, it's just.
Courtney Miller
Yeah, yeah, I get that. I think the worst I've ever had is, like, showing a someone something in my camera roll and being like, shoot, where's that other photo? And scrolling past, like, a few photos that parents don't need to see.
Damien Haas
I think I've done that.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. Just something, you know, or like, why do I have 10 Chris Pratt photos in a row? That's weird. Why do I have wonderful.
Damien Haas
That is the thing working. Working with social media as part of our job. Sometimes you pull down a bunch of photos for, like, a purpose, and then you go back later and you're like, this looks really suspect. Huh.
Courtney Miller
I could say that my camera roll is very weird. It's a lot of cursed images. And, I mean, I feel that's more common nowadays.
Damien Haas
But, yeah, I'm gonna text you one right now, and that'll just be for us.
Courtney Miller
Thank you. I appreciate it.
Damien Haas
You got it.
Courtney Miller
Well, this has been a lovely episode of the Smosh cast. It's been quite nostalgic for me. I hope that we sparked some nostalgia in those listening. If you would like to submit your own shoot, dude, you can send an email to us@shootdudeshmosh.com that's S H o o t D o o d@smosh.com and I received the photo. That looks pretty good. From what I'm saying, it's a pretty funny meme. And then if you want to ask questions for future episodes, follow us on Twitter or Instagram. Because we. We post our prompts or questions as tweets or as Instagram stories, and if you don't want to miss them, you can put notifications on as well. But yeah, other than that, you can just pop by to listen or watch us on. On any listening apps on Wednesdays and then video apps on Fridays, which is basically just YouTube. So subscribe to Smashcast on YouTube and.
Damien Haas
Always remember to go beyond +Ultra. Do your best.
Courtney Miller
Hell, yeah. What is it called? One for all. This was fun. Dame.
Damien Haas
This was fun. This is the most. This is the most you've ever talked to me.
Courtney Miller
I know. We never. No, we talk more than this. Wait, what is. What did Kevin ask? Kevin said, damien, how did this one feel as far as Best Friends podcast compared to last week's Best Friends episode.
Damien Haas
I feel like we probably got more legit bonding done because I didn't just look up Wikipedia articles about Courtney the whole time.
Courtney Miller
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Damien Haas
No, it's fun as shit.
Courtney Miller
Yeah. I like talking about childhood stuff because you really do learn about each other and about ourselves in a way. What. What really makes us happy, so.
Damien Haas
And I also forget a bunch about a bunch of shit.
Courtney Miller
It's also like, when you find out something that you haven't common with somebody from your childhood that feels a little more special than now, where it's like, oh, you like Avengers? Cool. Wait, you hated Jimmy Neutron? Oh, my God. Like, all right, let's get out of here, shall we?
Damien Haas
Oh, I thought we were already done.
Courtney Miller
For like a minute. No, no.
Damien Haas
Oh, we're still.
Courtney Miller
We are still rolling.
Damien Haas
Please, please cut all of the.
Courtney Miller
Bye.
Damien Haas
No, I'm serious.
Courtney Miller
No. Deem.
Damien Haas
Please. No. Corny. Corny.
Courtney Miller
Oh. Bye. Bye.
Damien Haas
Oh, bye.
Courtney Miller
Bye.
Damien Haas
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Podcast Summary: Smosh Mouth – Season 2, Episode #78: "Advice for Our Younger Selves"
Release Date: September 2, 2020
In the 78th episode of Smosh Mouth, Courtney Miller and Damien Haas delve into nostalgic reflections, sharing their childhood experiences, favorite games, cartoons, and the valuable lessons they've learned over the years. The episode, titled "Advice for Our Younger Selves," offers listeners a heartfelt exploration of personal growth and the impact of early experiences on one's present self.
Courtney and Damien open the discussion by touching upon their personal journeys and the therapeutic processes they've undergone during quarantine.
Courtney Miller shares her experience with video chat therapy, stating, "I've been taking this time in quarantining... to dive into my past and really digging out the issues that have affected me today" (06:25).
Damien Haas echoes similar sentiments, reflecting on his past struggles and how he's managed to compartmentalize them: "I've done a good job of capping them and being like, all right, it's in the back of my brain. We're good" (07:04).
They discuss the profound impact of childhood experiences, both positive and negative, on their adult lives. Courtney emphasizes, "You have no idea how much these small things that happen in your childhood affect you when you're a 40-year-old" (07:31).
The duo reminisce about the video games that shaped their early interests and provided countless hours of entertainment.
Damien recounts his early gaming memories, mentioning titles like Runescape, Super Mario World, and Donkey Kong Country. He shares, "The first game that really stuck with me was the Sims 2" (09:00).
Courtney discusses her limited access to consoles growing up, highlighting games like Reader Rabbit and Sims. She fondly remembers playing Goldeneye with her cousins: "I played Goldeneye and loved it, even though I was always so bad at it" (12:09).
They also touch upon the mature themes of certain games they were exposed to at a young age. Damien shares his unique introduction to Diablo at five years old, describing it as "incredibly dark" yet fascinating (11:12).
Courtney and Damien explore the animated shows that left a lasting impression on their sense of humor and creativity.
Damien lists his favorite cartoons, including Angry Beavers, Invader Zim, Ed, Edd n Eddy, and Courage the Cowardly Dog. He remarks, "Invader Zim definitely influenced my humor. It's dark as hell for a children's show" (28:32).
Courtney shares her love for SpongeBob SquarePants, Johnny Bravo, and Dexter's Lab. She comments on the unique humor of these shows: "I loved Dexter's Lab because it totally reminded me of my relationship with my siblings" (29:56).
Damien expresses his disdain for Jimmy Neutron, criticizing the character's annoying traits and the show's animation style: "He's an asshole. He doesn't learn anything ever" (29:05).
The conversation highlights how these cartoons not only entertained them but also shaped their comedic styles and storytelling preferences.
"What I'm Watching": Courtney and Damien introduce a new segment where they discuss their current viewing habits and interests.
Damien talks about his newfound interest in the YouTube channel Extra History, mentioning episodes on the history of Hawaii and Mansa Musa: "Extra History has been incredible. The episode on Haiti was eye-opening" (61:10).
Courtney shares her recent binge-watching experiences on Netflix, including Glow Up and Next in Fashion, and expresses her appreciation for educational content despite her past aversions: "There is some really cool stuff on YouTube. Shane has shown me a lot of different things" (61:43).
"Shoot Dude": This segment involves sharing and reacting to listener-submitted embarrassing or "yikes" moments.
Damien reads a story from a listener named John, who accidentally displayed an email receipt during a professional presentation:
"From John: I was just in a call presenting two weeks of findings... I see an email notification saying your receipt from Manscaped. I quickly closed it and then pretended it didn't happen for the remaining 30 minutes." (66:03)
Courtney and Damien humorously analyze the situation, labeling it as a mild "shoot dude" moment. They discuss the importance of maintaining professionalism and handling such slip-ups with grace.
Towards the end of the episode, Courtney and Damien reflect on the advice they would give to their younger selves based on their life experiences.
Courtney offers profound advice regarding self-expression and dealing with peer pressure:
"I wish I could tell my younger self, hey, these girls are putting you down because they're threatened by you and they don't want you to look prettier than them. Fuck them. Wear and look however you want." (25:21)
Damien reflects on embracing his identity and mental health:
"Hey, you have OCD. You need to lighten up a little bit and learn that it's okay to stray off the straight and narrow every now and then." (27:18)
They emphasize the importance of self-acceptance, resilience, and understanding that past struggles contribute to personal growth.
In "Advice for Our Younger Selves," Courtney Miller and Damien Haas provide an engaging and introspective look into their formative years. Through discussions on childhood games, cartoons, personal challenges, and current interests, they offer valuable insights and relatable moments for listeners. The episode serves as a reminder of the lasting impact of early experiences and the continuous journey of self-improvement and acceptance.
Courtney Miller at [06:25]:
"I've been taking this time in quarantining... to dive into my past and really digging out the issues that have affected me today."
Damien Haas at [07:04]:
"I've done a good job of capping them and being like, all right, it's in the back of my brain. We're good."
Courtney Miller at [25:21]:
"I wish I could tell my younger self, hey, these girls are putting you down because they're threatened by you and they don't want you to look prettier than them."
Damien Haas at [27:18]:
"Hey, you have OCD. You need to lighten up a little bit and learn that it's okay to stray off the straight and narrow every now and then."
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This summary captures the essence of Smosh Mouth's episode, highlighting the hosts' reflections and the engaging conversations that offer both nostalgia and meaningful advice.