S3 Ep3: #3 - Talking Friendships and Smosh Wiki w/ Ian Hecox

Summary

Podcast Summary: Smosh Mouth – S3 Ep3: #3 - Talking Friendships and Smosh Wiki w/ Ian Hecox

Episode Overview In the third episode of Season 3 of Smosh Mouth, hosts Shayne Topp and Amandalee Encanto engage in a heartfelt and nostalgic conversation with special guest Ian Hecox. The trio delves deep into the history of Smosh, the evolution of friendships within the group, and the intricate details of the Smosh Wiki. This episode offers fans an intimate glimpse into the personal and professional lives of Smosh members, highlighting key moments, challenges, and triumphs over the years.

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1. Welcome and Nostalgic Beginnings [00:03 - 05:00]

Shayne and Amanda kick off the episode with an exciting announcement: their special guest, Ian Hecox, returns to the Smosh Mouth cast. The conversation immediately centers around Ian's impressive career and his recent milestone of buying back his company.

Notable Quote:

• Ian Hecox [00:52]: "I feel well today we announced it, and I was... this is crazy."

2. The Emotional Impact of Buyout [05:00 - 09:00]

Ian shares his emotional response to the buyout news, describing the overwhelming reactions from fans and the swift changes that followed. The hosts empathize with Ian's experience, highlighting the intense influx of messages and the sudden spotlight on his personal life.

Notable Quotes:

• Shayne Topp [02:39]: "And yes, I can't imagine how many people are probably getting hit up by random cousins who are suddenly just like, yeah, we're related..."
• Amandalee Encanto [03:44]: "Thank God for God."

3. Reconnecting Friendships: Ian and Anthony [09:00 - 16:00]

A significant portion of the discussion focuses on the rekindling of Ian's friendship with Anthony. They explore the dynamics that led to their estrangement and the steps they took to rebuild their relationship. Ian emphasizes the importance of open and honest communication in forging a stronger bond than before.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian Hecox [06:22]: "We had to completely let go of what we had and just resign ourselves to thinking, might not ever be good friends again."
• Shayne Topp [08:11]: "Oh, it's like we're adults."

4. The Early Days of Smosh: High School Origins [16:00 - 26:00]

The conversation shifts to the humble beginnings of Smosh, tracing back to high school in 2001. Ian recounts how he and Anthony started the Smosh website during their freshman year, creating a community for like-minded individuals to share content. They discuss early projects like flash animations, including the infamous Microwave Furby video, which gained viral attention.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian Hecox [16:55]: "We probably started hanging out in earnest some like, nine months ago or something like that."
• Shayne Topp [20:14]: "But you guys weren't cool. Like K E W L cool."

5. Transition to YouTube and Viral Success [26:00 - 34:00]

As YouTube emerged, Smosh transitioned their content to the platform, capitalizing on its growing popularity. Ian details how their Pokemon theme song video became the most viewed video on YouTube for over a year before being removed due to copyright issues. This period marked Smosh's initial rise to internet fame.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian Hecox [26:13]: "We first did the Power Rangers theme song. Then we did Mortal Kombat theme song..."
• Shayne Topp [30:02]: "It was because, like, before YouTube, there was still torrenting websites."

6. Overcoming Challenges and Anthony's Departure [34:00 - 45:00]

Ian reflects on the challenges faced after Anthony left Smosh in 2017. Managing the business solo proved arduous, leading to moments of personal struggle. However, his recent buyout and reconnection with Anthony signal a hopeful new chapter for Smosh.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian Hecox [13:12]: "What the identity of Smosh with Anthony gone... redefining Smosh was always you and Anthony."
• Shayne Topp [14:55]: "But it really does feel like this all had to happen the way it happened in order for us to be here today."

7. The Smosh Wiki: Fact vs. Fiction [45:00 - 52:00]

Shayne and Amanda examine the Smosh Wiki, pointing out inaccuracies and humorous misinformation. Ian expresses his frustration with incorrect entries, emphasizing the importance of accurate representation. The discussion includes amusing anecdotes about fake trivia and April Fools' pranks.

Notable Quotes:

• Shayne Topp [40:37]: "So something I wanted to do today is to look into the Smosh wiki."
• Ian Hecox [50:26]: "We stopped doing it because... we started getting really, really gross stuff."

8. Personal Trivia and Lighthearted Banter [52:00 - 60:00]

The hosts share personal trivia, revealing surprising and often humorous facts about themselves. This segment includes playful exchanges about favorite characters, fears, and past experiences, adding a personal touch to the episode.

Notable Quotes:

• Shayne Topp [48:52]: "Ian's favorite Pokemon is Ditto."
• Amandalee Encanto [50:31]: "Oh, my God. I don't know how this happened."

9. Closing Thoughts and Future Prospects [60:00 - 62:29]

As the episode wraps up, Ian expresses his gratitude for rejoining the Smosh Mouth cast. Shayne and Amanda commend Ian's resilience and optimism, looking forward to the future of Smosh with renewed energy and collaboration.

Notable Quotes:

• Ian Hecox [62:04]: "I'm happy to be back at the Smosh cast. I think you two helming this thing is really fun."
• Shayne Topp [62:29]: "See you next Monday."

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Conclusion This episode of Smosh Mouth offers an engaging and comprehensive look into the evolution of Smosh and the personal journeys of its members. Through candid conversations and shared memories, Shayne, Amanda, and Ian highlight the enduring power of friendship and creativity in navigating the ever-changing landscape of online entertainment. Fans are left with a deeper appreciation for Smosh's legacy and an optimistic view of its future endeavors.

Transcript

[Shane Topp]

Hi. Welcome to the Smosh cast. I'm Shane Topp.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And I'm Amandalee Encanto.

[Shane Topp]

Today's episode is all about nostalgia. Classic stuff. We're going old school.

[Amandalee Encanto]

We're so excited to invite our special guest, Ian Hecox.

[Ian Hecox]

Wow. Thank you all for having me. Hello, I am Ian Hecox of Smosh and Arctic Adventure on Frozen Pond.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, no.

[Ian Hecox]

Frog Kingdom 2.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, wow.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I totally know what you guys are talking about.

[Ian Hecox]

The hit animated movie Hedgehogs.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Ian has an impressive career.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

You've done everything. And they're bringing that back to another sequel of that movie is coming, and you get to do it. Anthony can't be a part of that since.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, you've done a lot, including buying back your company.

[Ian Hecox]

I did do that recently.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah. Wow. How do you feel?

[Ian Hecox]

I feel. I feel well, today we announced it, and I was. I think I was shaking. I was. I was definitely, like, like, in, like, in the morning. It was like 9am the video went out, but I had to be on, like, another call already. So I was, like, on this call with, like, lawyers about other stuff, and. And, like. But I was also, like, reading the comments as they were coming in, and my hands were, like, shaking. I was just like, this is crazy. This is crazy. So I haven't, like. I haven't had that many moments to like. To just, like, look at this stuff because we, like, today is just like, back to the other things. So. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

I've been kind of, like, offhandedly, like, reading some stuff, and, like, I looked at the Reddit and I looked at. At the YouTube and I looked at some stuff on Twitter and Instagram, and it's just kind of like. Like we're trending on Twitter.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And, like, it's a lot that's going on right now. I feel like you probably won't process until, like, 3am you're in bed. Like, who? What?

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, it's got to be a total overload.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's crazy. Just, like, all these people, like, coming out of the woodwork, being like, oh, like, smosh. Like, they were the first, like, channel that I watched. And, like, yeah, like, yeah, it's. It's. It's crazy. It's crazy to see this.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. So as of recording this, today is the announcement day. So by the time this airs, it's been a couple weeks, but it's been nuts. And, yes, I can't imagine how many people, like, probably getting hit. Hit up by random cousins who are suddenly just like, yeah, we're related, man. You know, hey, we should hang out. If you need a business manager, I'm your guy.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, exactly. Because you've always been a celeb, but now you're like a born again celeb. Does that make sense? That's what you are. You're a born again Christian. You're a born again Christian celebrity. I'm a born again celebrity, and you're Christian again.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. You know, Anthony and I decided to come back to Smosh with Jesus in our hearts, and it actually would have.

[Shane Topp]

Been so funny if you did that. If the whole theme was super religious.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. You didn't see my bio. It says Corinthians.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Thank God for God.

[Ian Hecox]

11:12.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I don't know if I can handle that.

[Shane Topp]

I. I'd be so sick.

[Ian Hecox]

I don't think all this old fashions.

[Shane Topp]

Be like, what the happened?

[Amandalee Encanto]

God found us.

[Shane Topp]

That's what happened, Anthony. We found God.

[Ian Hecox]

That would be a pretty funny turn.

[Shane Topp]

It would be very. It'd be very good. Just only Christian sketches.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

But super, like, clean.

[Ian Hecox]

I mean, rated. I mean, that was Studio C. Studio C is a sketch comp. Is like a sketch comedy channel. And they're funded by the Church of Latter Day Saints.

[Shane Topp]

Okay.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay.

[Shane Topp]

We'll. We'll try to collab with them.

[Ian Hecox]

Or byu.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, we'll try to get them.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, we're gonna collaborate.

[Ian Hecox]

So they're pretty funny. They had a couple funny sketches.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, yeah?

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I can't wait to see them.

[Ian Hecox]

There's a sketch for somebody who gets hit in the head a lot with a volleyball.

[Shane Topp]

Okay. I know. I know that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one's actually genuinely very fun.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Oh, this is.

[Shane Topp]

You've probably seen it. Well, Mormons also made Napoleon Dynamite, so.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, they didn't make it. The guy that directed it was Mormon. I love Napoleon Dynamite, and they shot it in Utah. So I think a lot of, like, the extras and actors are probably more than.

[Shane Topp]

So it's entirely Mormons. Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

That's great. I can't wait to see the volleyball sketch.

[Ian Hecox]

It's really funny. Yeah. I was gonna go.

[Amandalee Encanto]

You're such a Mormon episode back to me.

[Ian Hecox]

Back to talking about me.

[Amandalee Encanto]

No, this is all about you. Actually. Like, we're really interested about going back.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. I want to talk to you about two things. One, and I think first, we've talked a little bit about our reactions and how we found out how you told us. I'm curious how this process started from your perspective also, like, obviously getting back the business, but but just you and Anthony kind of becoming friends like you were back in the day. When did that start? Because Anthony left back in, like, 2017. Yeah, I've seen him a couple times since. Super nice guy. We've been cool. But when did you guys start, like, hanging out again? Like, Like.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, we. We probably started hanging out in earnest some. Sometime last year. Maybe like, nine months ago or something like that.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, birthed a baby.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

That's how long it takes to make a little baby.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay.

[Ian Hecox]

And, yeah, I think prior to that, we would, like, occasionally, like, reach out to each other, but essentially, like, our friendship, as one would define a friendship was. Was not really. We weren't really friends anymore.

[Shane Topp]

Sure.

[Ian Hecox]

It wasn't out of. It wasn't out of, like, spite or anything like that. It was. It was literally just like, you know, we. We. We don't, like, have a lot in common anymore. And, like, we. You know, I think that we started this whole smosh thing as, like, childhood friends, and we witnessed, you know, a friendship turn into a business partnership. And at some point, managing the. The business relationship became more important than managing our interpersonal relationship.

[Amandalee Encanto]

That's so true. I feel like even when I see married couples go into business with each other, I'm like, is it good?

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. It's a scary thing. It was also a behemoth of a thing. It's not just some random business. It was a huge deal.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Probably had a bunch of people, like, pulling at you, trying to define who you guys should be and stuff.

[Ian Hecox]

Sure. And I mean, like, a lot of it was also, like, you know, a lot of. A lot of the brand was, like, Ian and Anthony as, like, best friends. So it's like, we couldn't, like, go. Like, it would be weird to, like, tell people exactly, like, where we were in our friendship. And we didn't really know where we were in our friendship, like, towards the end of, like, Anthony being at Smosh, but it was, like, off.

[Shane Topp]

Right.

[Ian Hecox]

And so, yeah, we kind of. We kind of stopped, like, we stopped hanging out, like, after he left and before he left, like, it was still, like. We would hang out occasionally, but it just, like, never felt right. And so we kind of let that friendship die. And this is something that we talk about, I think on his interview. I haven't watched it yet because it's not out yet. It comes out in, like, an hour. Uh, but. But I went on Anthony's I Spent a Day with series, but we kind of talked about this. This thing we had to like, let that friendship die. In order for, like, this friendship to happen, like, we had to just completely, like, let go of. Of. Of what we had and, you know, kind of just resign ourselves to thinking, you know, might not ever be, like, good friends again. And, yeah, when we reconnected, it was kind of like. It's kind of like, oh, actually, like, we. We still have a lot of the same interests and. And I think what really changed was our ability to communicate with each other.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, it's like, we're adults.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, I'm into that.

[Ian Hecox]

We. I think we both did. I think we both did a lot of self work. And so, you know, prior to us, prior to Anthony leaving Smosh, we did not communicate well. Like, we, like, a lot. It was like, a lot of, like, we were trying to preserve what was going on at the company, so we didn't want to rock the boat. So we never had, like, difficult conversations. And now, like, I think because of the work that we've. That we've done, now we can, like, have, like, open and honest conversations, like, about something. And I think that's, like, totally changed the game in terms of, like, our communication, and we were able to, like, forge a new kind of friendship that's way stronger than the friendship that we had before.

[Amandalee Encanto]

See, this is why I love this story so much, because it's not only, just, like, a story that I get to witness as a viewer, but it is your actual life, Ian. Like, this is your high school friend. You guys started a huge business together, and life happened. You both grew, and now, like, you're coming together in such an amazing way. Like, I just. It's so fucking cool.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, it's really cool. And I think this stuff happens to a lot of people, right? Like, if you think about it, you guys are childhood high school friends. Almost everyone I know has high school friends that were, like, you guys were so close, but as you get older, you. You become different people. That happens and weird stuff. But it's. It's so interesting that you guys have found your way back and you guys have grown into. You guys are the same people, but you've grown into, like, newer, better versions of yourselves that are suddenly best friends again. I think that's really sick. It's been fascinating to think about with all this that I've seen Anthony, like, a handful of times over the years. But we have seen you for these past few years here at Smosh and seen, like, you grow and seen you, like, I think, like, look, you've always been hilarious, but, like, to See, you become funnier in so many ways. And like, I don't know, it's. It's cool to see and to see that old school dynamic, but with so many newer components is really fun.

[Ian Hecox]

Do I seem less depressed than I did, like, when we. When we came back?

[Shane Topp]

I've. I've pointed this out before.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I've never liked that.

[Shane Topp]

It's a bit.

[Amandalee Encanto]

People call that. Think that you're like, depressed and. Oh, downer. I've like, that is not. Ian.

[Shane Topp]

It's not depressed. No, it's the bummer thing that you. Cause you make. You make jokes about bummer things like on try not to laugh. Like, you'd make Challenger jokes on try not to laugh and stuff. So it was the bummer thing. And I think people started to attribute saying your personality as a whole is a bummer, which is not true.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Not true at all. You just like dark, dark topics. So do I, but I do it with a smile. Maybe that's the difference.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. Deliver it with too much of a straight face. But no, in person, you're honestly a very chill, chill dude. You actually are usually, I'd say, in a pretty good mood.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, I think so.

[Shane Topp]

It's just. You're just a chill guy.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Well, I just remember, like, when we came back, like when we came back like, after the. After the mythical deal and like, I was now kind of like taking this, like, position of president and stuff. Like, I think it. I think it was like, pretty hard for me. And like, I didn't really have any chance to like, you know, going from like, the defy shutdown to like, being like, working with Rhett and link to. To. To save this thing. Like, I didn't have like, any chance to like, take a break of any kind.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, yeah, dude.

[Ian Hecox]

And. And then now as kind of in this, like, position that I didn't. I didn't like, originally plan on. And I just remember, like, there was like, several people that would come up to me and be at like, the office and be like, hey, are you okay?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Really?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean that. I think that. I think that first year was. Was pretty. Was pretty rough for me, like, coming back then. And like, I. I mean, like, I really wanted it to, like, work and. And things. And things were. Things were going well and everything, but it was just like. Yeah, it was just. I mean, ever since Anthony, ever since Anthony left, it was always like, I was always trying to make the effort of, like, what is. What is the identity of. Of smosh with. With Anthony gone And I wanted to highlight, you know, the. The whole kind of, like. I don't. I don't like to use this word anymore, but family of people on camera and the people behind camera, and I wanted to, like, redefine what Smosh was and highlight everybody, but it was still like, you know, the. The sort of, like, foundation of. Of Smosh was. Was always like, you know, you and Anthony. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. Friendship.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And I feel like. I feel like what you. I feel like that's so hard for a person to go through, not only, like, a friendship ending, but, like, the business relationship also ending. And I feel like no wonder you were going through a tough time. Like, you had to hold up, like, you were a single mom for a while.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, people call me a single dad.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, you were the Reba of small.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, I was the Reba.

[Shane Topp]

You were totally working multiple jobs here. Yeah, it's. That's very much. That's very much you.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, I am the Reba.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Are you happier now?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, definitely. Like, I mean, like, you know, we were. We've been. We've been trying to figure out what the. What the voice is for the main channel for. For years now. Yeah. Like, we. We would keep trying these different things, and. And it was tough because I. I do think that we. We. We did have a lot of, like, really fun, creative videos and ideas on the main channel, but, you know, that channel was. Was built largely with an audience of people that watched Ian and Anthony videos, so.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

So you're not gonna. You're not gonna convince people, like, overnight to just, like, accept totally different content. You know, would I. Would I take back any of the stuff that we did? No, like, I. I'm glad we did the stuff we did, and. And I'm glad that, like, that Anthony left Smosh. And you can take that sound bite. No.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. Oh, Ian's Happy Hollywood Story.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. But, like, it really. It really does feel like this all had to happen the way it happened in order for us to be here today.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Absolutely.

[Ian Hecox]

I am. Yeah. I'm. I'm so happy with how things turned out.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

So cool.

[Shane Topp]

I think it's. I think you both. It's impressive for both of you, and I think both of you deserve props because Anthony. It was probably such a tough decision of recognizing that he wasn't happy at a place despite it being, like, his lifelong, like, project. And I know he loved Smosh even when he left it, but he recognized he had. He had to go. And. And then he found success on his own, which is so Cool. And then props to you for. For taking it on and, like, leading it for all these years and showing that even just one of you can run a successful smosh. But now you're back together. So cool. Like, success on your own was probably nice, like, to find that identity on your owns and now get to come back and have that freedom and that independence.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

And choose to be friends and choose to be business partners as opposed to when you, like, fell into it and, like, from the beginning, probably felt kind of like, oh, well, this is just what we're stuck with. This is how we have to be, basically.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think about that way that this is. This is definitely a choice.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so sick.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

So now I kind of want to throw it back.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Let's go back.

[Shane Topp]

Look, we'll come back. Whatever. So you guys are reconnecting now? I want to kind of go back to, like, 2005.

[Ian Hecox]

Great.

[Shane Topp]

Just to get, like, nostalgic. A nostalgic, but also a scope of just how long this whole thing has been going. Because I know we say, like, old school, Smosh and smosh. Been around forever to actually comprehend that it's nearly or it is over 20 years old.

[Amandalee Encanto]

22.

[Shane Topp]

So the YouTube channel. But I think I always forget that this started as a website that you guys started years before you started making YouTube video.

[Ian Hecox]

Anthony. Anthony created it. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

So Anthony made this thing. Do you know when you guys actually started saying smosh? Like, when smosh became, like, a thing you guys were saying?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, I think that was freshman year of high school. So that would have been 2001.

[Shane Topp]

Insane.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. What.

[Amandalee Encanto]

What is it like to be in high school and, like, start this thing with your best friend? Like, how did people perceive you in high school?

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, I mean, like, freshman in high school.

[Shane Topp]

What would you.

[Ian Hecox]

I mean, what were you guys? Losers.

[Shane Topp]

You were losers?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Like, actual losers or, like, losers?

[Ian Hecox]

You just.

[Shane Topp]

Just weren't popular?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, we weren't popular. Like, we. We. We had a friend group, so we weren't, like, we weren't, like, not. Not to say, like, if you don't have. If you don't have, like, a group of friends, you're a loser. I'm not saying that, but. But I would say that, like, we weren't. We weren't cool. Like, sure. Like, I mean, I believe that. I was in. I was in cross country.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, cross country. Those are the coolest guys.

[Ian Hecox]

For some schools, apparently, cross country can be cool. No, not ours. Not ours. It was very uncool.

[Shane Topp]

Football players would run out and just tackle you?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Mid run.

[Amandalee Encanto]

You were both cross country runners? Just you?

[Shane Topp]

Just.

[Ian Hecox]

Just me.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay.

[Ian Hecox]

Anthony didn't do sports.

[Shane Topp]

What did Anthony do? Make websites.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, made websites. He did, yeah. He's. He's like self taught on like. Yeah, a lot of like coding and, and graphic design.

[Shane Topp]

Do you know what code he used for smosh.com.

[Ian Hecox]

Php?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh God. The runner just has no idea.

[Shane Topp]

The friggin runner.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay.

[Shane Topp]

Website works.

[Amandalee Encanto]

You guys weren't cool. Like K E W L cool. So did you care? Was that like a big deal that you weren't cool or was making smosh? Did that make you feel cool?

[Shane Topp]

I guess when it was just a website no one knew about it. Huh?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, nobody like Anthony created in 2002 as sort of like a forum for like us to all talk on.

[Shane Topp]

He was like your own form of social media back then.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Like imagine. Almost like a discord.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Right?

[Shane Topp]

That's pretty cool.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, it is.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

So just, it was just for you and your group.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. And then he expanded like so there's this website called Newgrounds which is like a place where people posted these animations. No longer Flash animation doesn't exist as like flash anymore I think. I don't really know.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, I think they got rid of it.

[Ian Hecox]

But Amanda, you wouldn't understand this.

[Shane Topp]

This was for cool.

[Ian Hecox]

So okay, what are we talking about? So imagine YouTube, but it's mostly videos of like animated stick figures. Like killing each.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. Oh, it was a pre YouTube place.

[Ian Hecox]

For videos and people and it was like the first, it was like the first place for like. It was the first place where like, where there was like user generated content. So Anthony created kind of like a rip off of Newgrounds which is you could upload flash animations to our website. So we started with people that were like at our school that were using our website. And then it like grew to being like some people that would upload on Newgrounds and they'd also come to our website and upload there to like get another audience.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Did you voice over the. Can you voice the stick figures?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Is that what you guys did?

[Ian Hecox]

You can? Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

That's pretty cool.

[Shane Topp]

So maybe your. The earliest Smosh videos weren't on YouTube. They were those like flash animations and stuff.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Like. Yeah, Anthony made some.

[Shane Topp]

Okay, so how many users did you have in like 2002? Do you know? Was it hundreds of people by that point in 2002?

[Ian Hecox]

Are you gonna tell me? Do you have.

[Shane Topp]

I don't actually know.

[Amandalee Encanto]

According to Our dad.

[Shane Topp]

I've been. I've been doing a bunch of research, and I knew that in 2001, the name was registered. So I know that you guys were making this early on, which is insane.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

But I was curious. I was curious if you knew, like, oh, if this was just like a dozen of us or if it was like. No, the whole school knew about smosh.com.

[Ian Hecox]

I think smosh.com probably. Probably started getting people in like 2003. Oh. We also had like, a couple, like, weird, like, like, videos that we uploaded there that was like. Some people from our school made like, Jackass style videos. Like, there was one where they, like, lit a tennis ball on fire and were. And we're playing tennis with it. It was called fire tennis. There's another one where this one guy we knew was riding in a car. We had this really. We had this, like. We had the street, and there was a super steep grassy hill next to it. And so he was riding on the car, then jumped off the car and rolled down the hill. We had another one that was called.

[Shane Topp]

Was he okay?

[Ian Hecox]

Probably.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Probably not.

[Shane Topp]

People died for Smash Dog.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ian Hecox]

We had this other one that was actually great and I think kind of became a little bit viral. That was this microwave Furby video. It was. It was a Furby in a microwave and I was like. Then all of a sudden, it just like this lightning bolt.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And that's a good horror. That's a good horror movie plot. Like, Cacadoo comes out.

[Shane Topp]

You said that one went kind of viral.

[Ian Hecox]

It went kind of viral. Yeah, maybe.

[Amandalee Encanto]

So would you say that you were kind of beginning to be famous in high school?

[Shane Topp]

You're like, sophomores at this point. Smashed up.

[Ian Hecox]

Like, we were like juniors, probably senior. We sold. We sold our first shirts to, like, fund the website, like, the hosting FE in 2005, in our senior year. So, like, people at our school bought these shirts.

[Shane Topp]

How many people bought shirts?

[Ian Hecox]

I was like, maybe, like, we might have sold like, maybe like 50.

[Shane Topp]

Holy shit.

[Amandalee Encanto]

That's a lot.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. So it was like Smosh is like, kind of like, oh, there's like, people that, like, know about it.

[Shane Topp]

And this is before the Pokemon video.

[Ian Hecox]

Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

So already so at your high school, Smosh became like a household name actually.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Because there was like, in the yearbook, we, like, we posed this, like, photo of, like, a gathering of, like, Smosh people, and there was like, 30 of us.

[Shane Topp]

Do you have that photo?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, probably. It's like in a yearbook.

[Amandalee Encanto]

That's a big deal. Getting. Getting like featured in the yearbook. I remember being a very big deal.

[Shane Topp]

So Smosh was big enough to be featured in the yearbook. That's.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane Topp]

50 people were wearing. You're walking around like a frigging cult at your high school.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

What are those high school people thinking now? Have they video?

[Ian Hecox]

I have the Furby video.

[Shane Topp]

Let's watch it. What?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, that's it.

[Ian Hecox]

That's it.

[Shane Topp]

Can. Can we show that on here?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Do we. That's kind of brilliant.

[Ian Hecox]

No, it's. It's. I mean, it's. Somebody re uploaded it.

[Amandalee Encanto]

That feels like a Vine.

[Shane Topp]

You before vine, technically, that's a Smosh video.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, somebody. Somebody that was on our website, like, sent us that video and we.

[Shane Topp]

I shit you not, I feel like I watched that video back in the day. Or maybe there other people microwaved maybe.

[Ian Hecox]

I don't know.

[Shane Topp]

Holy shit. Okay, wow. So right. So senior year, Smosh is already known. It's already a big deal. But then YouTube starts. Which one of you was like, hey, let's make a YouTube video.

[Ian Hecox]

We actually started making videos before YouTube. We knew before we knew YouTube was a thing. So.

[Shane Topp]

So you just had videos. Were those re uploads? Did you already like make those videos? Holy.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, we. Well, at that time, we had just made I think the Power Rangers theme song and maybe the Mortal Kombat theme song, but we hosted it on Anthony's website. So we were paying the hosting fees and Anthony figured because. So. So we had a MySpace, right?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Smash.

[Ian Hecox]

We made like a smosh MySpace and we had like, I don't know, maybe like a couple hundred people following us on MySpace. Anthony, he was, you know, he's. He knew some coding, so he figured out a way to like embed video from Smosh onto like your MySpace page.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, wow.

[Shane Topp]

He's a tech wizard.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

So he. So yeah, we first did the Power Rangers theme song. Then we did Mortal Kombat theme song. And then somebody took the Mortal Kombat theme song and. And uploaded on YouTube. Somebody was like, hey, somebody took your video and they put it on this website, YouTube. We're like, what's that? Went there, found out about YouTube.

[Shane Topp]

What's that stupid place that I'll never have a career at?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. And so we realized, like, oh, like if we upload it here, we don't have to pay hosting fees. Like, we don't have to pay for whenever somebody watches this video. So we upload it on there. Anthony figured out this way to like code like a video embed so that like it would post the YouTube video, like, on your MySpace page and then would have a link below that says, like, click this link or copy this link and add it to your MySpace page. So it's like, easy for people to share sick videos.

[Amandalee Encanto]

They could add it to their own MySpace page. So when people go to their MySpace, your videos there.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, that's so. Okay, so wait, the first video you upload on smosh.com are on to. What was the first video? Like?

[Ian Hecox]

The first video we made was the Power Rangers.

[Shane Topp]

Power Rangers theme song. Technically, yeah. What was the first one you uploaded onto YouTube?

[Ian Hecox]

I mean, it would have been Mortal Kombat. Like, we re uploaded it. We asked the guy to take it down. He did that. And then we asked people, we asked our MySpace people to vote on the Mortal Kombat theme song to be on the front page of YouTube. Because that was. That was the only way of discoverability. And back then you could vote for like a video to be like, put on the front page. What that hit the front page, got us a little bit of an audience. And then we asked people on MySpace, we had a poll running. We're like, what theme song do you want us to do next? And we had like, Captain Planet and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and the Pokemon theme song. And the Pokemon theme song was like, overwhelmingly voted for. So we made that uploaded it asked people to vote for that video to get on the front page. It got on the front page. And then like, right at that time, YouTube got a bunch of press for being like, this new thing. People are watching videos, they're like viral videos. And it was just like, right place, right time. And then shortly after that, like, the Pokemon theme song became the most viewed video of all time on YouTube. Yeah. For like a year and a half. And then it was removed for. For copyright infringement, which, like, nowadays, like, I don't think that I. I think that it's like, fair use anyway. It doesn't matter, but.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Whoa. So, like, who. How did you guys know how to do this? Was this just like trial and error or was Anthony like really coding or both of you guys were just like, oh, yeah, we figured it this out.

[Shane Topp]

Coding at all.

[Ian Hecox]

Or was that.

[Shane Topp]

Is that fully just an Anthony thing?

[Ian Hecox]

That's. That's an Anthony thing. Like, he was always like, a lot more into like the technical side of things. And like, whenever, like something. Whenever there's like a problem that needed to be solved, like, oh, we want to like, add an expl. Like, oh, it'd be cool if there was an Explosion here. Then he'd go, like, okay, I'll figure out how I can do that.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I love that. I find that to be so useful also really hard. I don't think that's me.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, it's. It's not me. So, like, that's. That was always, like, a really great, like, quality of Anthony is, like, he's very, like, driven, and, like, when he, Likes when he, like, sets his mind to something, he, like, he gets it done. So it's like, in those early days, like, making YouTube videos, you know, he's like. We're like, okay. Like, I think we started editing on, like, like, Windows Movie Maker, and that was ass. And so he pirated a copy of.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, hell yeah. I mean, look, you're gonna get arrested.

[Shane Topp]

Smosh was made illegal.

[Ian Hecox]

Editing software was very expensive, and. And we were making $0. So we later on did pay for editing software once we started making money.

[Amandalee Encanto]

When did you make money?

[Ian Hecox]

Well, we were probably the first YouTube channel to sell merch.

[Shane Topp]

That merch you sold to your fellow high schoolers.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Did that cost money?

[Ian Hecox]

What?

[Amandalee Encanto]

How much?

[Shane Topp]

They were just giving T shirts out for free.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Were you not You. You weren't giving out T shirts for free?

[Ian Hecox]

No, we made people pay for them.

[Shane Topp]

That's insane.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I love that the people who are, like, the quote, unquote losers were like, all right, buy our T shirt. And people are like, okay.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

I don't think you were as uncool as you said.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, exactly.

[Shane Topp]

People are buying your T shirts.

[Ian Hecox]

I mean, you know, whatever.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay.

[Ian Hecox]

But, yeah, I beat some nerds up. Okay.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay. So, okay, you are a nerd.

[Shane Topp]

Pokemon goes viral. Pokemon goes viral. Does change from there. Or. Or, like.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, I would. I would say, like, was that.

[Shane Topp]

What was that experience? Because going viral was not as common back then. Nowadays, it's like, everyone. I. I feel like a lot of people experience it, and it's a. It's a known thing of, like, oh, you could go viral back in 2005 or 2006, right? You, like. I don't even think that term was used.

[Ian Hecox]

It was because, like, before. Before YouTube, there was still torrenting websites. So, like, Numa. Numa.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, that.

[Ian Hecox]

Like, Numenuma. Star Wars Kid. Like, those. Those videos. Those videos went viral through, like, torrenting.

[Shane Topp]

Like, I remember watching. I watched Star wars kid on eBam's World, dude.

[Ian Hecox]

And, like, all the remixes of those.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Were like, I don't think I've seen Star Wars.

[Shane Topp]

Star Wars Kid. See, that's going viral in the worst way. Yeah. He, he, he. Oh, the news. The. The morning news announcements at this high school. They had like a whole. Yeah, film lab, whatever. And so he recorded himself with, like, a poll, doing a bunch of, like, Star wars moves.

[Ian Hecox]

Like, it was like a BO staff.

[Shane Topp]

And he thought he was so sick. He's so into it. It's so passionate.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay.

[Shane Topp]

And then it. He probably forgot to delete the footage. And then another high schooler must have found it and uploaded it onto the Internet. So it's like four minutes of him just. Just be, like, just spinning a pole around and it's. And they remixed it and, like, they turned it into lightsabers. They turned it into a Matrix trailer.

[Ian Hecox]

There was a gray one where they. It was him fighting himself itself.

[Shane Topp]

It's so great.

[Ian Hecox]

It's insane.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Is that the chosen?

[Shane Topp]

But it's a very chosen. No, the chosen.

[Ian Hecox]

Totally. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Chosen is very much of that time. Like, 2005 is prime chosen era.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Is this kid okay?

[Shane Topp]

Like, I actually think he had to move high schools.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Well, he did have high schools, like, off the planet to move high schools.

[Shane Topp]

For being simply too awesome. I think by this point, people have probably forgotten because you. Do you talk to Anyone under, like, 25? They don't know what Star wars kid.

[Ian Hecox]

That's crazy.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I feel like Gen Z nowadays, like, would do that, and people were like, that's so cool and unique.

[Shane Topp]

Star wars kid would be awesome nowadays.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, but back then when we were in high school, like, no, being unique and out of, like, like, colorful was just like, oh, my God, you're a loser.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

We loved being. We loved, like, the loser term. Like, you're.

[Ian Hecox]

Although I feel. I feel like nerds. Nerds, like, started becoming cool, like, as, like, right as I was, like, about to leave high school. Like, this. This guy that I was friends with who was a total nerd won't won homecoming king. So it definitely felt like there was, like, all of a sudden there was this, like, turn of, like, the jocks and the, like, cheerleaders are not the cool people anymore.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yes.

[Ian Hecox]

There was a shift, I think.

[Shane Topp]

I think there was a shift where nerds became cool. I think early YouTube, you see that. Like, it's a bunch of weirdos.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Maybe that's why. Maybe it's YouTube, I think.

[Shane Topp]

Just. Yeah, maybe. But I thought it was fascinating that early YouTube, it wasn't like your typical, like, super cool people. It was like, a bunch of people.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, it was all weirdos.

[Shane Topp]

It was a bunch of goofballs. And that's probably why you and Anthony probably were the coolest, most handsome YouTubers of that era, to be completely honest with you, man. You guys point out a different YouTuber who is more handsome than you and Anthony in early years. But I think I. I think.

[Ian Hecox]

I mean, Dan and Phil did come in a little bit later.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. Yeah. A little bit later. Rhett and Link were. A little bit later.

[Ian Hecox]

A little bit later.

[Shane Topp]

Just a little bit later.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Rhett and Link were what year?

[Shane Topp]

They were like.

[Ian Hecox]

They were.06, I think.06?

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, man. Old school.

[Ian Hecox]

You know, they used to make music. You know, they were musicians first.

[Shane Topp]

No, music wise.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Wait, is that because link DJs?

[Ian Hecox]

Well, they. No, they were like. They. They played like, real music.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

In a band. Together or separately?

[Shane Topp]

They played music.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

What do they like?

[Ian Hecox]

Like, acoustic guitar and stuff?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Red has a band?

[Ian Hecox]

Well, yeah, Rhett. Rhett has like. Red has like, a solo career now, but. But they got started by doing, like, musical like. Like comedy songs.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Pokemon theme song goes viral. Are you still in high school when that happens?

[Ian Hecox]

No.

[Shane Topp]

You're out of high school?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Damn. You don't get to experience being the coolest people at high school when that shows up.

[Ian Hecox]

Instead, I went to community college and people are like, what is this?

[Shane Topp]

Oh, nobody gave a shit. Well, you weren't walking around, like, playing it on your phone, being like. Or I guess you didn't have. No, couldn't have it on your phone.

[Ian Hecox]

I mean, like, the. The people, like, it was really funny because, like, the people in my. So I went. I continued to do cross country when I went to community college, where. Where I was definitely got completely outclassed. Like, the going from high school to college cross country is. Is just insane. Anyway, it was funny because, like, they. They were kind of, like, seeing me upload these videos. And so, like, they kind of saw, like, the. The change in, like, popularity, and they're like, dude, this is so fucking weird. But, like, nobody else, like, you know, you're going. This was a commuter college, you know, it's not like you're staying in dorms or anything.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Like, oh, you're living at home.

[Ian Hecox]

Yep. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

And you're not making any money. You made zero dollars off of the Pokemon theme song video.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Zero. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

That's insane to think about.

[Amandalee Encanto]

So wait, how long when you started. Smosh. Did you make money?

[Ian Hecox]

Like, how long, probably? Well, we, like, solicited some, like, like, donations to get, like, a camera. So, like, towards the beginning.

[Shane Topp]

But you're not, like, living off of smoke.

[Ian Hecox]

No, no, no.

[Shane Topp]

This is not a career Yet.

[Ian Hecox]

No, No, I was working at Chuck E. Cheese. Anthony was doing, like, freelance web design and. Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Chuck E. Cheese.

[Shane Topp]

You were actively working at Chuck E. Cheese when those first videos started?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

So were you. Were you there? Like, if kids were shitty to you, you'd be like, do you know who I am?

[Ian Hecox]

Y. Yeah. And then I.

[Amandalee Encanto]

No way. I see.

[Ian Hecox]

I strangled them in the ball pit. And they were never seen. They were never seen ever again.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Tell me if I'm wrong. I see Ian, you as being very humble, probably not talking about uploading all your stuff.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, no, I. I didn't. I didn't.

[Shane Topp]

You didn't tell anyone you're there wearing a mask, being like, they don't know who I am.

[Ian Hecox]

They don't know.

[Shane Topp]

I hide my identity.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, were you the mouse? Were you. Were you dressed?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, I was Chucky.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Are you lying?

[Ian Hecox]

I'm not lying.

[Shane Topp]

See, that's when he was really a celebrity. Yeah, that's the biggest celebrity.

[Ian Hecox]

That was the start of my entertainment career.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, my God.

[Shane Topp]

Is there anything you learned at Chuck E. Cheese that you think has transferred over into your career? Do you think you learned anything by being a mouse?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, I actually don't have kids.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, my God.

[Shane Topp]

You did commit to that.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Way to go.

[Amandalee Encanto]

On my way.

[Ian Hecox]

No, I'm not.

[Amandalee Encanto]

No, I'm not.

[Ian Hecox]

Um, yeah, you were.

[Shane Topp]

You were working two jobs. A single mom.

[Ian Hecox]

Working single mom.

[Shane Topp]

Back to Reba.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Ian is a single mom.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, man.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Ian is a single mom. Was Chucky entertainer, very humble, but just like an up and coming artist about to be famous. Good. Yeah, that. I love that.

[Ian Hecox]

The classic LA story, you know?

[Shane Topp]

So you were making videos for a while where you weren't making any money, so you guys were just purely doing it for fun, or were there. Were you guys committing to it in the hook, hopes of it becoming something else? Or was it just really like, hey, we're just gonna.

[Ian Hecox]

I mean, like, we pretty quickly committed to it. I mean, when we saw, like, the Pokemon theme song get big, right? And, like, we were starting to build an audience, it was like, oh, like, they want more. We should make more. And maybe make some, like, original comedy. So we started making, like, little, like, sketches and stuff. And that was the thing. Like, you know, early YouTube was all, like, vlogging, like, in front. Like, talking in front of a camera or sketch comedy. Those are, like, the first two. And lip syncing. Those are, like, the first, like, three things that were on YouTube. And cat videos, I guess, but that's permanent sinking.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Wait, how do they do lip syncing if they had copyright issues or. That didn't come until later because copyright.

[Ian Hecox]

Copyright didn't really become, like, a huge issue until people started uploading south park and Daily show clips to YouTube. And then that's when, like, all the companies were like, hold up. What is this? Oh, and then, you know, Viacom tried to sue YouTube for, like, $2 billion.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Did Viacom win?

[Ian Hecox]

No.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay.

[Ian Hecox]

They lost. But it did, like, start the whole kind of like, claiming process on YouTube and like, DMCA and that kind of stuff.

[Shane Topp]

Wow.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

That's insane. So that is insane. We're teenage years.

[Ian Hecox]

But I didn't start. Yeah, we didn't start making Dynamic. Yeah, we didn't start making money until. Yeah, we started selling some shirts. We had some donations that allowed us to buy a camera and start shooting outside of Anthony's bedroom. And then we made this deal with this, like, YouTube competitor to upload early on their website, and we got, like, a. A monthly, like, payment for that.

[Amandalee Encanto]

So you're living at home. You're going to community college. Is Anthony also living at home and going to community?

[Ian Hecox]

Yes.

[Amandalee Encanto]

What were your. I know your mom started jumping into your videos.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Were both of your parents on board? Or were like. Or were they like, why are you wasting your time?

[Ian Hecox]

No, they're. They're supportive.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I'm telling you, if you were born in Massachusetts, it would be totally different.

[Shane Topp]

My parents would be super confused.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Mine, they'd be like, this is fun. But get back to, like.

[Ian Hecox]

No. Yeah, it was. It was. It was great. Like, my. My dad, who's an accountant, helped us set up the. The. The LLC and, like, make sure that we were, like, set on, like, tax. Taxes and tax work and that kind of stuff. Like, I mean, you know, you want to talk, like, you know, privilege. I mean, that's. I mean, like, I. We. We did have, like, a leg up in certain ways that, you know, my dad was an accountant. He. He helped us, like, get straight on that. Right. In the beginning, you had supported. He had a client that was an entertainment lawyer. So he, you know, obviously we paid him, but he, you know, negotiated a lot of our first contracts and stuff. You know, a lot of people in the early days got taken advantage of pretty heavily, I'm sure. And fortunately, like, we had. We had representation and, you know, we. We had our ducks in the row.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Even in sync, got taken advantage of.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Remember that story?

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, man. You guys are just, like, insane.

[Amandalee Encanto]

You guys are just, like, insane.

[Shane Topp]

Pretty much everybody.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, wow. They already up. They already Updated the photo. So look at that.

[Amandalee Encanto]

What?

[Shane Topp]

I. Obviously I was. I've been doing a lot of research.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane Topp]

And something I wanted to do today is to look into the Smosh wiki.

[Ian Hecox]

Okay.

[Shane Topp]

Which I don't think really has been too aggressively edited or updated for years. But I did notice I pulled up the Smosh page for just the channel as a whole. They've already. They've already uploaded the new photo.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

Now, however, reading it, it's like smosh is a YouTube channel led by Ian Hecox. Oh, so already that has to be changed. That has to be changed, man.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

The Spain Smosh page. Like they. They kind of COVID the history of. It doesn't seem history. Ian and Anthony are best friends who had regularly made videos together ever since high school, which they uploaded on YouTube and the website smosh.com at first, Smosh only consisted of half the pair. Anthony used to make flash games and movies on newgrounds.com under the name Smosh. The name Smosh originated when one of Anthony's friends was talking about a mosh pit he had joined, and Anthony misheard him as saying Smosh Pit instead. Which is kind of funny that we had then ended up changing. Changing the second channel to Smash Pit later on.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Just.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Was that on purpose?

[Shane Topp]

No.

[Amandalee Encanto]

What Smosh Pit?

[Shane Topp]

I mean, just like.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, Smosh Pit was. Was. We. We called the. The website like the. The picture dump kind of content. That was the Smosh Pit at first.

[Shane Topp]

Okay.

[Ian Hecox]

And the second channel was originally. Enh. It was originally my personal channel. And we had started uploading this. This series on there called Ian is Bored, where I just makes silly stupid videos.

[Amandalee Encanto]

So that's why fans are just like having all these things about you, because I'm literally reading this fandom about you about like. Ian was often portrayed as dim witted, ignorant, lazy, irritable.

[Ian Hecox]

Well, then seated, he was a loser. I mean, I mean, that's. That's like my. That's who I am in sketches.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, I know.

[Ian Hecox]

Not. That's not who I really am, Amanda.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I.

[Ian Hecox]

You know this.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I guess I'm still learning.

[Ian Hecox]

But. Yeah. And then we. We wanted to rename the. The second channel. Obviously we didn't want to call it Smosh too.

[Amandalee Encanto]

No.

[Ian Hecox]

Because it's dumb. And we. The Smosh Pit was already a thing and we wanted to bring more attention to the Smosh Pit website, and so we called it Smosh Pit.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I love it.

[Shane Topp]

It's pretty cool.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, it's very cool to be a part of it.

[Shane Topp]

This seems to be pretty accurate. So, yeah, Their rise to fame started in the fall of 2005 during YouTube's early days. The videos they made then were extremely different to their videos now. But I think that's about to change. I think we're getting some old school stuff back.

[Ian Hecox]

The classic style is returning. Not 2005 smosh, but like 2011 to 2014 smosh, I would say.

[Amandalee Encanto]

O. I'm excited. Just on the main channel.

[Ian Hecox]

And then we even. We even have a bikini girl.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, God. Girl one, girl two. Hot girl. Bikini girl.

[Ian Hecox]

Literally. Literally in the script. I'm. I'm so sorry. I. I swear that I respect women. We're off to a good spot.

[Shane Topp]

Which is true.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Which is true.

[Ian Hecox]

But we did. I did write into the script. It is on there. She is credited as bikini girl.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh my God. I'm getting. I'm getting triggered to, like my first casting things. It was like big breasted woman.

[Ian Hecox]

No, no. Shut the fuck up.

[Amandalee Encanto]

No, I'm not.

[Ian Hecox]

What are you talking about?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Not from you. From my own casting. Oh, no, not from when I started.

[Ian Hecox]

Like, I thought you were saying that you got casted as a big breasted woman. I was like, Jesus Christ.

[Amandalee Encanto]

There's no, no, just boss and executive. No, no, no. In my casting. My actual notion. Oh. When I was. Yeah, when I first moved here, it was like, hot woman. Big breasted woman. Mom.

[Ian Hecox]

Mom.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And I was 25 when I moved.

[Ian Hecox]

Here, so I was like, well, that's like a. That's like porn. It's like if you're 25, you're a mom now.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, exactly. Honey, what are you doing in the kitchen?

[Shane Topp]

There's nothing more humbling than getting breakdowns for characters for auditions. Like, you move out here and you're like, I'm going to. I'm going to do this. I'm so excited you get auditioned. It's like stoner one and you're like, fuck, is that who I am? Ugly guy 5?

[Ian Hecox]

Stupid idiot or homely girl.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Homely girl. Better for radio girl.

[Shane Topp]

Like girl you do not want to see.

[Ian Hecox]

Disgusting piece of shit.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

I'm Amanda. I'm reading for Disgusting Pieces. Yes.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Piece of shit. Okay. And that's all we need from you. Thank you very much.

[Ian Hecox]

And I'm 6 5.

[Shane Topp]

I don't think we need to hear the read. I think you've got it.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Great.

[Shane Topp]

So on this, I'm looking at. There's a million series that have been on Smosh over the years.

[Ian Hecox]

Okay.

[Shane Topp]

So a bunch of these new and old, they've got it updated, so it's crazy to see just how much I.

[Ian Hecox]

See GDFNs on there.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, dude, they've got everything. So couples therapy. We start date July 6, 2022. End date July 27, 2022. Dead table talks. Every blank ever lasted for seven years. Food battle, which they say status ended. I don't know. Well, I don't know now.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I don't think I was ever in food battle.

[Shane Topp]

No. Food battle ended in 2016, which was less than a year after I started. Or it ended about a year after I.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And I didn't join until. I don't.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, we. We're gonna go to your wiki in a second.

[Amandalee Encanto]

2019. Oh, right. Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

I. Well, yeah, I will. I will point out food battle at the end if you watch past the credit or whatever. Oh, there's a question mark.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, man.

[Ian Hecox]

This is the end. And then a question mark appears and somebody. A hand comes in and takes the.

[Shane Topp]

Donut and you leave it open ended. But then Anthony left within a year.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

So it was kind of like. I think. I think it's probably ended.

[Ian Hecox]

Right.

[Shane Topp]

But now who friggin knows? Yeah, they've got all of them right here, man. A lot of good shit.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I also have your family tree on your fandom and it says that you're like great, great, great grandfather was Abraham Lincoln.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, this was. This was a.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And Charles K. Anthony.

[Ian Hecox]

Mm. Okay, so this is. This is. This is from one of the epic April fools pranks that we used to pull back in the day.

[Amandalee Encanto]

So great.

[Ian Hecox]

In this one, we. We made a video that I had a. An identical twin.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh.

[Ian Hecox]

So this was. This was like the smosh.com exclusive piece that showed my family tree, which is.

[Amandalee Encanto]

All died in a roller coaster accident. All six of these died in roller coaster accidents.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. And then there's another. There's another woman artificially and inseminated with octuples. And we just use the same.

[Amandalee Encanto]

They kind of look like photo guy.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, it does look a little bit like.

[Ian Hecox]

It does. Yeah. Oh, no.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, God.

[Shane Topp]

So my favorite thing with the Smosh wiki.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Dye your hair blonde again.

[Ian Hecox]

There's like a. Yeah, there's like a hillbilly joke in there because they all. There's like a incest joke. These. These people right here.

[Amandalee Encanto]

See, they're all linked together, all named Zeke.

[Shane Topp]

It's very weird.

[Ian Hecox]

Sorry. Anyway, we're focusing too much on one stupid joke.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Sorry.

[Shane Topp]

My favorite thing about the Smosh Wiki. Yeah. Is there's a trivia section and I'm curious how Much of this is still accurate.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, okay.

[Shane Topp]

So I'm gonna pull it up for you. First Ian and then Amanda. I actually. I'll check yours. You do have a wiki page, and I'm curious how good they are.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I have a WikiFeet page. I have a wiki page. I have.

[Ian Hecox]

Wikifeet will be a different episode for your fake feet.

[Amandalee Encanto]

No, wait, I haven't looked yet. I should look.

[Shane Topp]

Okay. Okay. Ian's favorite Pokemon is Ditto.

[Ian Hecox]

It was probably a video.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah. As revealed in Ditto, the movie trailer.

[Ian Hecox]

Okay. Yeah, sure, sure.

[Shane Topp]

In most mail time with Smosh, Ian kills himself.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it wasn't like. It wasn't a. It wasn't the S word. It was like, there would always be something in the mail that would kill us.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, you would actually just get murdered.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'd be like. I know. Like, one of them was like, oh, we got, like, anthrax. I was just saying that, like, so we would just have, like, random things. We, like, oh, what's this? And then die. And that was, like, how we would end most of the mail time with Smosh episodes is like, something would kill us. We wouldn't. We wouldn't K ourselves, which is.

[Amandalee Encanto]

That sounds so bad because mail time with Smosh sounds like a Nickelodeon, like, spin off. Mail time with Smosh.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, but we stopped. We stopped doing it because, like, you know, the. The crazier stuff would get on video, and then people would send us, like, even crazier things to put on video, and it just, like, went overboard. Like, we started getting, like, really, really gross stuff, and it was like, stop it. It wasn't.

[Shane Topp]

People ruined the fun. Just.

[Ian Hecox]

It would just get gross.

[Shane Topp]

Here's a cool thing. Here's a cool thing. Ian was the one who said the word bitch the most.

[Ian Hecox]

I believe it. Sure.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I've never heard you say bitch.

[Shane Topp]

Well, it used to be, like, a bit.

[Ian Hecox]

It was our. It was our. No, don't give me that face.

[Amandalee Encanto]

What phase?

[Ian Hecox]

You seem disappointed in me.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I am a little bit disappointed.

[Ian Hecox]

No, no.

[Amandalee Encanto]

But is so fun to say.

[Ian Hecox]

We wouldn't say it to, like. We wouldn't say it to women. We would always say it to each other so it. And we wouldn't say, like, you know, like. Like, that way we'd be like, oh, very cool.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Bring it back.

[Ian Hecox]

We. I think we are. Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, okay. Spoiler. Spoiler.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Spoiler, man. Ian has apophobia.

[Amandalee Encanto]

What is that?

[Shane Topp]

A fear of bees. And possibly specifobia. A Fear of wasps due to an instant incident when he was a child where he used a swing against an active wasp hive, causing the bees to attack him.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Is that a real story, my girl?

[Ian Hecox]

No, the story. The story's real. I don't think. I'm afraid. I'm not really afraid of bees. Wasps, I'm afraid of because I don't trust them. But yeah, I was swinging on a swing in my, like, aunt's backyard, and you know the swings that had, like, the. The plastic over the chain?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yes, of course.

[Ian Hecox]

I think they made like a nest thing, like, in there.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh.

[Ian Hecox]

And so, like, when I went to swing on it, they, like, came out of it or something. And. Yeah, I got stung by. By a bunch of wasps.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, Jesus.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, it wasn't fun.

[Amandalee Encanto]

So did Macaulay Culkin.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, my girl didn't work out so well.

[Amandalee Encanto]

He died.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. Spoiler, spoilers.

[Shane Topp]

And then there's a bunch of just random shit here. But then lastly, and I remember this, In July of 2020, Ian changed his Twitter name and avatar to Caillou for an unknown reason.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I knew. I remember that.

[Ian Hecox]

That was just for. That was just for shits and giggles.

[Shane Topp]

Good time.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, that was. That was great. That was a lot of fun. This was fun. I had on Twitter.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Except for announcing smash.

[Ian Hecox]

No, I haven't even been able to engage with people. I've been doing this bullshit.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Oh, my God. Enough.

[Shane Topp]

Okay.

[Amandalee Encanto]

But is your Twitter broken?

[Ian Hecox]

I don't think so.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay, good.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, I think. I think it's still working. I heard smashes Twitter is like, a little bit broken right now because of all the. All the tweets popular popping off.

[Shane Topp]

Amanda, I have your trivia here. I think most of this is correct.

[Ian Hecox]

Was casted as big breasted woman by small.

[Shane Topp]

Primarily works as.

[Ian Hecox]

I think.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Never mind.

[Shane Topp]

It says Amanda is Portuguese.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, yes. But like a specific kind of Portuguese.

[Amandalee Encanto]

My family's from the Azores.

[Shane Topp]

Oh, well, it doesn't have that in San Miguel.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And I'm half Irish also.

[Shane Topp]

Wow. They. So they're not fully correct.

[Amandalee Encanto]

No.

[Shane Topp]

Amanda often has lunch with Angela. Oh, is that correct?

[Ian Hecox]

Is that correct?

[Shane Topp]

I love these facts. I love. Ian's are like these intense, crazy facts. And Norris is just like, she got lunch with Angela.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, she got into her car. Well, there's a lot of accounts that are like, Angela and Amanda are best friends forever. Oh, it's really cute.

[Ian Hecox]

Is that an Irasha prank that she's setting?

[Amandalee Encanto]

No, no, no. There's like a legit. Amanda and Angela are best, best friends Instagram and YouTube. And it's really cute. It's every moment that we've ever, like, touched.

[Ian Hecox]

It's really cute.

[Shane Topp]

The compilation gets so specific.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I do have lunch with Angela a lot.

[Ian Hecox]

Good.

[Shane Topp]

Okay, so that's also true. Amanda has been told that she looks like Adam Sandler and Cat in the Hat, which we know is true.

[Amandalee Encanto]

No, I haven't gotten a female. I've gotten Aubrey Plaza. I've also gotten what's her name from girls.

[Ian Hecox]

I've noticed, like, some. Some, like. Some, like, random, like, men on, like, Twitter are very triggered by your bangs.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Really?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, yeah. Like. Like, some, like, some men are, like, legitimately, like, triggered by your bangs.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Why?

[Ian Hecox]

Like. Like, they're like. They're like. Like, they're like, don't trust a woman that has bangs like that.

[Shane Topp]

I have never seen that.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, I've seen a couple comments. I think there's, like, there's something protected.

[Amandalee Encanto]

By my bangs then.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, there's something that makes, like, some men, like, deeply insecure.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, I. I actually get. I actually get a lot of messages on my Instagram that are like, mommy, your bangs. Oh, my God. Mommy.

[Shane Topp]

Mommy.

[Ian Hecox]

Mother is good.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I get mother all the time. And it's like, your bangs. Like, I would say that on other women. Like, I don't like them, but on you, it makes me feel. Feel something. Like, I feel like I don't even know. And I'm like, yeah, Mike. My messages on Instagram are never like. I'm never like, oh, God. I'm always like, okay, yeah, this is more like Twitter. Okay. Twitter. Yeah. I love that.

[Shane Topp]

Check marks.

[Ian Hecox]

Some blue check marks.

[Shane Topp]

Getting mad about the bangs. So besides that, Amanda, the only thing that I saw in yours that kind of blew my mind, it's under professional information. It says, other works of note. NBC 7 News.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

I don't think I knew that you worked on NBC 7 News. Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

You're a crisis actor.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, no, I worked at. I worked. No, no, no. I worked in downtown Boston. I would take the train, and I worked at Channel 7 NBC News as a writer. I was a news writer. I was like, the people super stressed out behind the reporters.

[Ian Hecox]

You were writing the fake news.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I was writing the fake news. Exactly. And then I was. But I first started off as a PA and a teleprompter.

[Shane Topp]

Okay.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I got yelled at more times than I can count on that job. So I would be the teleprompter person who would turn the little teleprompter.

[Ian Hecox]

That's a serious skill.

[Amandalee Encanto]

It was a Serious skill. But like the. The producer was so angry at me all the time. Because if you go the littlest bit fast, the reporters get so angry.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And so.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I worked at Channel 7, like the 4am shift for almost three years. That's pretty awesome. I enjoyed the news a lot. I thought I was gonna be a news reporter. Cause my mom wasn't like Ian's parents. She was like, okay, all these fun. Cause I would film everything I did. I would make little movies when I was a kid. And she'd be like, okay, that's fun. But be a reporter. It's the same thing that you're doing on the side. I was like, okay. So I pursued reporting.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And I made a reporting reel. And all my friends thought it was a joke.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Because I was so. They were like, this is hilarious. And I was like, I'm talking about murder. And like people tied up. So it was. Yeah. My reel just showed me that I was in the wrong place. So I left Boston. Guys, it's okay. Maybe one day you'll see my reporting reel. I use my hands.

[Shane Topp]

If we can upload that, that'd be so awesome.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I'm like. A man was caught down.

[Shane Topp]

Did you use a different voice?

[Amandalee Encanto]

I used a reporter voice a lot, but I didn't go too hard and I was very awkward.

[Shane Topp]

Do they. Do they like give you a voice?

[Amandalee Encanto]

I was 23.

[Ian Hecox]

Oh my God.

[Shane Topp]

Do they tell you how to talk?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yes. Yes.

[Shane Topp]

They're like, hey, but I like, you need to talk like this.

[Amandalee Encanto]

They. I just like watched them a bunch and then did a lot of writing. And then I would like go out at 4am and shadow a reporter. And then I would jump in and like, while she was outside of court and like jump in and do like my own. They call it package.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah. To think like your. Your career, you could have been like, at this point in your career, like a lead reporter and like Omaha.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah.

[Ian Hecox]

Cause like those. I feel like those people, like, it's so. It's such a weird career. Like you just bounce around in the most like random cities.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Well, that's the thing that I didn't know that I couldn't start in a city that I wanted. I had to start in like Wyoming or Utah or Ohio. And you are a one man band. So you do everything. You film yourself, you set up your shot, you edit, you do your graphics. You do everything. You're literally a YouTuber for like five to six years.

[Shane Topp]

Holy.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And then maybe you can. So those people on the desk.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Have Worked grunt work for like 10 years, which is where they got on there.

[Ian Hecox]

So that's why they're allowed to be very angry.

[Amandalee Encanto]

So angry.

[Ian Hecox]

Teleprompter.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Exactly. And I realized I was just like it's really hard reading the news every single day. It was like really depressing.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Plus I love.

[Ian Hecox]

You have to wake up at like 3am no, you have to wake up.

[Amandalee Encanto]

At like 2:30 if you're on camera to do your makeup. But for me, I woke up at 3am and took the train.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

And we drink donkeys.

[Ian Hecox]

Donkeys.

[Shane Topp]

Donkeys, baby.

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Truth.

[Ian Hecox]

Wow. Yeah. That's wild. I can't wait to see baby Amanda.

[Shane Topp]

We're going to find that and we're going to show it.

[Ian Hecox]

Lastly, drinking donkeys.

[Shane Topp]

Lastly, before we out of friggin time.

[Ian Hecox]

Shit.

[Amandalee Encanto]

I wanted to read yours.

[Shane Topp]

Well, okay, before we go, there's one thing, okay. There's a couple things on mine that I do not understand.

[Ian Hecox]

Okay.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay.

[Shane Topp]

I don't. Because a lot of them. I know the video where they came from, right. I'm like, oh, we did that in a two truths, one lie or something.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah.

[Shane Topp]

So I have a couple here. Shane hates cheese.

[Ian Hecox]

Hmm.

[Shane Topp]

I have no idea where it came from, but it was.

[Amandalee Encanto]

It hurts your tummy?

[Shane Topp]

No, I don't hate cheese.

[Ian Hecox]

It must be a video.

[Shane Topp]

But it says reference needed. So someone just put that on.

[Ian Hecox]

Somebody just trolling.

[Shane Topp]

Someone else put reference needed. One of Shane's favorite TV shows is ABC's Once Upon a Time. He has said, quote, I really like the story of the show. It makes me feel like I am in the scene, which is important to me. I don't understand. Here's the weird thing. I did watch the first season of Once Upon a Time.

[Ian Hecox]

Okay.

[Shane Topp]

But I didn't like love it.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay.

[Shane Topp]

I don't know how this happened. So we need to figure that shit out. Also says Shane's favorite Pringle flavor is the barbecue Pringle, which is also not true.

[Ian Hecox]

Huh.

[Shane Topp]

So I don't know where this shit came from. I'm very confused.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Reference needed on most of these.

[Shane Topp]

Reference needed.

[Ian Hecox]

I will say like speaking of like misinformation on, on the. The wiki as and the fandom wikis, somebody kept putting on our. On Smosh' Real Wikipedia like last month that Anthony and Ian own Smosh funny. And they were like, they were like, they kept writing like because of like some, some clause that Anthony put into the contract and blah blah blah. Now Anthony and Ian own Smosh. And we were sitting there obviously planning yeah. On this deal. And we're like, who is adding this? Who is doing this?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Can't you find out?

[Ian Hecox]

No, it's just, like, track them down. Just a random, Like, Anthony's a tech wizard.

[Shane Topp]

He can track him down.

[Ian Hecox]

But now, you know, that person is like, yeah, I knew it. Yeah, I knew it.

[Shane Topp]

I'm the coolest guy ever.

[Amandalee Encanto]

What? That's really kind of. Did you guys, you guys must have freaked out.

[Ian Hecox]

It was weird. It was really weird. I was like, well, it's, it's like wrong information, so it's like, not a big deal. But, but it was still just, like, so straight.

[Amandalee Encanto]

That's bizarre.

[Shane Topp]

Hilarious. Well.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Well, I have a question for you. Okay. So who would you rather be, or who do you think's cooler? Big Bird or Snuffleupagus?

[Ian Hecox]

Oh, this is a real. I didn't really, I didn't really watch them as that much Sesame Street.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay.

[Ian Hecox]

Property. But I would say it's Nephalopagus, probably because Big Bird is just, like, name, right?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Snuffleupagus, Isn't it Snuffleuphagus.

[Ian Hecox]

Snuffleufagus, isn't it?

[Amandalee Encanto]

Snuffuffalupagus.

[Ian Hecox]

I don't know. You're asking some, like, serious, like, boomer questions. Amanda.

[Amandalee Encanto]

You know what? Fuck Ian. We're the same age, babe.

[Ian Hecox]

That's not true.

[Amandalee Encanto]

How old are you?

[Ian Hecox]

Yeah, but you're married and stuff. That doesn't automatically makes you.

[Amandalee Encanto]

That's like a deep sadness of me. I'm like, am I married? Does that mean I'm, like, old and dead and off the market of life, basically?

[Ian Hecox]

No.

[Shane Topp]

Yeah.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Great. Cool.

[Ian Hecox]

It is a nice ring, though.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Thanks.

[Ian Hecox]

It's been very nice.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Okay, so Big Bird or Snuffle?

[Ian Hecox]

Snuffle up.

[Shane Topp]

All right. Incorrect. Ian, thank you for being here. This has been enlightening.

[Ian Hecox]

Thank you. I'm, I'm happy, I'm, I'm happy to be back at, at the Smosh cast. I, I, I think you two helming this thing is really fun. And, and I wish you, I wish you the best of luck.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Thanks, Ian.

[Shane Topp]

Thanks, Ian. Well, you're welcome back anytime.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Yeah, you're welcome back. I feel like we're about to go on, like, a train ride or something.

[Shane Topp]

We'll see you guys later. Thanks for watching. See you next Monday.

[Amandalee Encanto]

Bye.