The Biggest Karens Of Reddit | Reading Reddit Stories

Summary

Smosh Reads Reddit Stories

Episode: The Biggest Karens Of Reddit | Reading Reddit Stories

Host: Shane Topp
Guests: Tommy, Sarah Whittle
Date: December 6, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode explores the wildest “Karen”-style entitlement stories from Reddit. Host Shane Topp, with regular cast mate Tommy and returning guest/former Smosh leader Sarah Whittle, reads through a collection of jaw-dropping posts about self-centered behavior, provoking laughter, rants, and some real-life empathy from the couch. The trio discusses roommate nightmares, vacation meltdowns, workplace harassment, disastrous birthdays, and relationship implosions—all through the lens of comedic but thoughtful commentary.

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Key Discussion Points & Stories

1. Warm Reunion & Theme Introduction [01:30–04:00]

• Shane welcomes Sarah back, highlighting her foundational role at Smosh.
  • Sarah (02:45): “I'm so proud of what you guys have done since I've left in 2021. I genuinely think you guys are in a golden era.”
• The group jokes about entitlement, setting up the episode theme.
  • Shane (03:54): “Okay, now you're acting a little entitled.”
  • Sarah (03:58): “That’s called a segue. There we go.”

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2. Roommate from Hell: Forced to Leave So Their Roomie Can Hook Up [04:08–21:04]

Story Source: r/AmIOverreacting
Main Issue: Roommate demands OP frequently vacate the apartment for her dates, even though they both pay rent.

Summary:

• OP’s roommate asks them to leave the apartment multiple nights each week for hookups, even when OP has nowhere else to go.
• When OP explains she doesn’t always have somewhere else, roommate accuses her of calling her a “whore.”
• Passive aggressive behavior ensues: slamming cupboards, spilled conditioner.
• The Smosh crew is unanimously appalled.

Notable Quotes:

• Shane (04:29): “I have the right to everything.”
• Sarah (08:46): “Next story. No. Move on. Dear God.”
• Sarah (09:21): “The price of community is annoyance. If you're in a roommate situation, your roommate may hear your lovemaking.”
• Tommy (11:12): “If she [roommate] wanted full dominion over this space, she should pay two-thirds of the rent.”
• Sarah (11:39): “If you have a roster, that is okay, but if you don't live alone, you don't live alone.”
• Shane (13:56): “She needs to like, move the boundary back to a normal place of like, I do not need to leave my apartment. I'm paying rent.”

Takeaways:

• It’s not normal or fair to demand your roommate leaves for your romantic escapades, especially regularly.
• The group suggests: New boundaries or, preferably, get a new roommate.

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3. The Tardy Tourist: Tour Guide Refuses to Play Mommy [21:04–29:05]

Story Source: r/AmITheAsshole
Main Issue: A tourist misses a day trip and blames the tour guide for not waking her up.

Summary:

• Bulgarian tour guide (OP) announces clear schedules, but one tourist is repeatedly late, expecting to be woken up.
• After repeat warnings, when she misses the bus, OP leaves without her.
• Tourist gets angry, leaves bad review, claims guide “cheated her out” of her trip.
• Group is dumbfounded by her entitlement.

Notable Quotes:

• Tommy (24:01): "'No, just knock on my door.'"
• Sarah (25:53): "You're an adult. Be an adult, grow up and take the responsibility to wake up on time."
• Shane (28:44): "'Hun, I deleted that BS from my email as soon as I read it. Lol.'"

Takeaways:

• Being late is your own responsibility—don’t expect professionals to babysit.
• Entitlement can disrespect everyone else’s time and experience.

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4. The Birthday That Wasn’t: Harry Potter Marathon Disaster [29:58–39:37]

Story Source: r/RelationshipAdvice
Main Issue: Girlfriend plans a Harry Potter marathon for boyfriend’s birthday—a night more for her than for him.

Summary:

• Girlfriend organizes a feast and marathon for boyfriend’s birthday, but he’s tired and prefers the club with friends.
• He eats dinner, refuses the themed sweets, and insults her fandom when she mentions a childhood crush on Draco.
• Argument escalates: he demands she “fix her ways,” threatens breakup.
• The trio debates: miscommunication? Or relationship issues deeper than Harry Potter?

Notable Quotes:

• Sarah (34:33): “‘He didn't like his birthday the way I wanted him to like it.’”
• Tommy (36:04): “Bring a cloak and a scarf if you have to.”
• Shane (36:37): “The boyfriend could be mad… But he's expressing it in horrible… just… he's expressing it horribly.”

Takeaways:

• Birthday plans should reflect the honoree’s wishes, not the planner’s.
• Communication gaps and misaligned expectations are often at the heart of “entitled” conflict.

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5. Buttface at Work: Nicknames Nobody Wants [39:44–50:19]

Story Source: r/AmITheButtface
Main Issue: Office “jokester” gets reported for giving an offensive nickname and refuses to take the hint.

Summary:

• Man nicknames new young female coworker “RV Reba” based on where she lives (RV park).
• She asks him to stop; he continues the nickname with others; HR gets involved.
• He’s shocked at being reported—still wants their names.

Notable Quotes:

• Sarah (44:30): “You are not hired to make silly jokes on the job. Be a professional. Be respectful, especially to women.”
• Shane (45:13): “If someone tells you to stop [a joke], you have to stop.”
• Tommy (46:31): “Someone saying, ‘I don’t like that you say that’... you just go, great, I won’t do that anymore.”

Takeaways:

• Persistent, unwanted nicknames are harassment, not humor.
• Respecting boundaries in the workplace is non-negotiable—“It’s just a joke” is not a defense.

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6. Ungrateful Girlfriend Throws Out Dinner, Demands Pizza [50:19–63:26]

Story Source: r/AmIOverreacting
Main Issue: Guy makes elaborate dinner for his girlfriend; she tosses it, demands pizza, and insults him.

Summary:

• Boyfriend makes wine-braised short ribs (her “favorite”), but girlfriend insists on pizza, trashes the meal, and berates him.
• Guests erupt over the entitlement of discarding someone’s cooking—especially when she could have ordered herself food.
• Commenters and hosts agree: Red flags everywhere. Breakup is inevitable.

Notable Quotes:

• Sarah (53:03): “You have your phone in your hands. Get it delivered... There’s a lot of problem-solving here.”
• Tommy (54:49): “There are so many red flags... you could open up an Etsy store selling used red flags!”
• Shane (57:23): “She broke a glass I kept from growing up that was sitting on our counter by throwing it on the ground... at which point I just stopped talking.”

Takeaways:

• Communication and appreciation are essential; disrespect like this can’t be salvaged.
• Trying to “fix” a toxic relationship is futile—self-respect means walking away.

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7. Open Relationship Backfires: Polyamory via TikTok FOMO [63:32–78:05]

Story Source: r/RelationshipAdvice (2022–2024)
Main Issue: Woman requests open relationship out of boredom (inspired by TikTok); boyfriend warns he’ll leave if he falls for someone else—which he does.

Summary:

• OP, bored in her relationship, opens it up; boyfriend says he’ll leave if he falls in love elsewhere—he does.
• OP spirals: tries to win him back, violates restraining order, gets maced, is forced to leave state. Multiple years pass, no closure.
• Crew discusses the complexity and work real polyamory (not boredom) requires.

Notable Quotes:

• Tommy (66:05): “Oh, you wanna fuck someone else? If I fuck someone real good... I go fuck.”
• Shane (69:36): “If you wanna be poly, end your relationship and go start a poly relationship.”
• Sarah (71:01): “[The boyfriend] thought, like, that'll get her to not open up the relationship. I think he...almost broke up then and there.”
• Sarah (77:19): “You are out of touch with reality and perception. You should turn to your closest friends and community... bring it back home.”

Takeaways:

• Don’t ask for relationship changes (especially risky ones) for the wrong reasons or as a quick fix.
• TikTok trends are not personal growth.
• Stalking and refusing to let go are beyond entitlement—sometimes, professional help is the only answer.

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Standout Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Sarah (08:46) [about being forced from your own home]: “No. Move on. Dear God.”
• Tommy (24:01): "'No, just knock on my door.'"
• Shane (13:56): “She needs to ... move the boundary back to a normal place ... I'm paying rent for this day that I'm here.”
• Sarah (44:30): "Be a professional. Be respectful, especially to women. ... Did anyone hire you to be silly?"
• Tommy (54:49): "There are so many red flags ... you could open up an Etsy store selling used red flags!"
• Shane (77:31): "This is beyond entitled. They're in a different world."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:30–04:00] – Opening, Sarah’s return & episode theme
• [04:08–21:04] – Roommate eviction for sex: “The price of community is annoyance”
• [21:04–29:05] – Tour guide vs. tourist who won’t wake up
• [29:58–39:37] – Birthday Harry Potter marathon flop
• [39:44–50:19] – Butt face at work: harassment by unwanted nicknames
• [50:19–63:26] – Girlfriend trashes boyfriend’s dinner, demands pizza
• [63:32–78:05] – Open relationship request leads to restraining order

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Closing Thoughts

Shane, Sarah, and Tommy blend laughter with real advice about entitlement, boundaries, and knowing when to walk away—from roommates, partners, and jobs. The message is clear: Everyone deserves respect, and “it’s just a joke” or “what’s the big deal?” isn’t an excuse for bad behavior.

Tommy (80:44): “Don’t be a butt face.”
Shane: “Don’t be a butt face!”

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End of episode.

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Transcript

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[Shane]

Hi, welcome to Smosh Reads Reddit Stories. I'm Shane and today's theme is entitled and today joining me are two of the most entitled people I've ever known, Tommy and special guest Sarah Whittle.

[Sarah Whittle]

Hello.

[Tommy]

Hi.

[Sarah Whittle]

Hello.

[Shane]

You deserve it.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yes.

[Shane]

Sarah, who you used to be in charge of this channel and so much at sm.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, I think I did. Over the five years I worked here, I think I did every single job.

[Shane]

Yeah, you, you ran like our socials.

[Sarah Whittle]

Coordinator, Pennsylvania cast member for a bit. Like director, executive producer of everything, like literally marketing, social media, did everything.

[Shane]

Yeah. And I feel like Tommy, at a, like when you first joined Smosh, like you were working with Sarah, it was just us.

[Sarah Whittle]

I brought him.

[Shane]

You brought him. You are the reason we have Tommy.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, actually, yes. Cause like when Mythical bought Smosh, it became like we were like GR onto each other. Like the Titanic was Sinking. We were like. You and Courtney were like, sarah, please come back. And I was like, okay, I'll come back. Tommy, come back.

[Tommy]

My body was ice cold. And Sarah was like, oh, whoa.

[Shane]

You reawakened him.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah. So we got Tommy descended back to.

[Shane]

The La Brea Tar Pits, and we had to get him back.

[Sarah Whittle]

Real talk, though, like, yeah, it is. So I'm so proud of you guys. And I know Shane. Shane and Tommy, you guys just visited me in New York. I think we both separately cried. But, like, I'll say it again. I'll say a million times, I am so proud of what you guys have done since I've left in 2021. I've stayed such. I mean, you guys are my best friends. Like, stayed such close friends. But, like, seeing the growth of the thing that I felt so ingrained in creating and, like, seeing where it is now, I genuinely think you guys are in a golden era. And I'm, like, proud mama, super fan. I'm watching all the content. I'm texting you guys all the time. So I am so, so proud of what you guys. And I'm just like, I am the number one Smosh fan.

[Shane]

Thank you, Sarah. Well, I mean, I think it goes without saying, like, Smosh has been in this golden era for a couple years, but so much of it is due to, like, all the things that were put in place for years leading up to that, and so much of it is owed to the decisions you made. I feel like you really molded, like, a lot of the creative that we still follow.

[Sarah Whittle]

That's great. Anyway, I'm waiting for my caviar. I requested it.

[Shane]

Okay, now you're acting a little entitled.

[Sarah Whittle]

That's called a segue. There we go.

[Shane]

All right, let's get into these stories.

[Tommy]

That was good.

[Sarah Whittle]

Thank you.

[Shane]

How much do entitled people bother you?

[Sarah Whittle]

So much. Oh, my God, it rages me so much.

[Shane]

Yeah. And, I mean, look, it exists around the world, but I do feel like in America, maybe this is just because I've experienced this more than anything, but I just feel like America can be the heartland of entitlement.

[Tommy]

Oh, of course it is.

[Shane]

Yeah. Like, individualism's so popular that people are just like, yes, it just comes with it.

[Tommy]

Comes with it.

[Shane]

I have the right to everything.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

All right, well, let's get into these and see what we're dealing with. Our first story comes from. Am I overreacting? This was posted only a couple months ago. Am I overreacting? Roommate constantly expects me to leave so she can sleep with Guys. Oh, hello. Posting on a different account. This happened yesterday. Today she ended up just going to the guy's place instead of bringing him to our apartment. But she refuses to speak to me. In the first slide, the names I blurred out are my boyfriend's name and a friend of mine's name. So this is a text conversation I'll be reading.

[Sarah Whittle]

It's visual aid.

[Tommy]

Slide.

[Shane]

Roommate says, hi, I'm having a guy over tomorrow around like seven. Would you be able to stay somewhere else for a few hours? Op says, how long hours? They say, I'm not sure if he'll be spending the night yet. If ygm, you get me. You get me.

[Sarah Whittle]

You get me.

[Shane]

I don't know if they'll be spending the night yet. You get me. Op says, I don't really. Anywhere I can go have anywhere.

[Sarah Whittle]

I was just speaking in color.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Can you not go over to your boyfriend's place? He's visiting his family. He isn't around. Surely there is someone's house you can go to. Go to Blank. I already went to Blank on Tuesday. Cause you had a different guy over. It's not fair of me to keep inconveniencing people like that. She doesn't even care. And you don't have to say it like that. What? You don't have to say that. Like I'm a whore or something. Op says, I didn't call you a whore. I just said I already went to Blank's place Tuesday. Cause you had a guy over. You said different guy. Like I'm sleeping with loads of different people. Okay, I wasn't trying to make it seem like that. I was just saying it's not fair. It's my apartment too. And this would be like the third time this week I've had to find somewhere else to stay. I don't mind you bringing people over, but when it's happening multiple times a week and I have to look for other places to stay over because of it, it's not exactly fair. The roommate says, yeah, good job on not calling me a whore.

Hope he continues, Everything I said are things that are just factual. You are constantly bringing over guys and I constantly have to stay over somewhere else because of it. That's not calling you a whore. It's literally just telling the truth. You can sleep with who you want. I'm not judging you, but I just don't appreciate having to leave my apartment constantly cause of it. So you can bring Blank over, but just because I'm bringing over guys, I'm not in a Relationship with, it's not okay. Op says, I purposely go to Blank's place because he lives alone, so it's easier that way. And I don't expect you to leave the apartment. Whenever he comes over, when we're literally just hanging out, Blank barely comes over. It's not even comparable to how often you bring people over. Roommate says, I don't get why it's a problem having to stay in your boyfriend's place for a night for or for a few hours. Like, I can understand not wanting to do that to our friends, but literally, why would your boyfriend mind? Op says, are you forgetting that we share the same apartment? He doesn't mind coming over, but my whole point is that we both live in that apartment. I'm entitled to stay there when I want. I live there. It's not fair that you constantly expect me to just leave whenever you want me to. Just want me to, just because I can't go to my boyfriend's place. Roommate says, I just don't understand why you're acting like this is the end of the world because you have to go somewhere else for a few hours and basically insinuating that I'm a whore. I don't know what your problem is. All of a sudden, Op says, I. You in the past try to stop bringing over so many people because of this, and you agreed, but then just kept doing it. We are both trying to make different points, and you aren't understanding what I'm saying about this being my apartment, too. Roommate says, okay, let's end the drama here. I'll figure something else out. Jesus Christ. Op continues. We were both in the kitchen at the same time today, and she kept slamming cupboards and placing things down extremely aggressively. I went to shower after her, and my conditioner had just accidentally opened and spilled all over the shower floor.

[Sarah Whittle]

Oh, come on.

[Shane]

I really don't know if I was being too harsh or not, but at the same time, I don't feel like it's fair that I'm constantly expected to stay in other places so she can bring people over. I asked her to try to bring over less people in the past, and she agreed, but then continued to just do the same shit afterwards. Am I overreacting in this whole situation? No, no, no.

[Sarah Whittle]

Next story.

[Shane]

No. Move on. Dear God, I'm confused. They have their own rooms, probably, right?

[Sarah Whittle]

That's the thing.

[Shane]

I get that. It's like, hey, in common spaces. It's just like, all right, hey, I'm gonna bring a guy over. Like, dinner is it okay, if we kind of hang in the kitchen, like, whatever. Even then, like, if I were dating someone and I go over to their apartment and it's like, oh, and this is my roommate. It's just like, cool, like, nice to meet you.

[Tommy]

You respectfully, it's like, you're gonna be. This is your space too. It's like, we'll have a nice dinner. They come in and they get something out of the kitchen. You don't have to go, hello. You can just keep having your dinner.

[Sarah Whittle]

You're co living.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

I'm gonna ask a question that feels obvious, at least to me. Are they having crazy big band mariachi loud crazy times in both the living room and her room? And that's why she wants.

[Shane]

To be.

[Sarah Whittle]

A nice thing too, on its own. Like, even if she was in the bedroom with her date, maybe she's self conscious about the noise. But again, I go back to like, the price of community is annoyance. Like, if you're in a roommate situation, your roommate may hear your love making. I hate.

[Tommy]

You did a great job. You did a great job.

[Shane]

You did a great job.

[Tommy]

You did a great job.

[Sarah Whittle]

That felt so stupid. But like, that's just like. And then the roommate gets to decide like, oh, am I gonna like, enjoy this? Am I gonna turn up music?

[Tommy]

Enjoy it?

[Sarah Whittle]

Am I gonna like, hate it and leave the house? Right? You're co living.

[Shane]

Her roommate could be like, hey, look, I'm bringing some people over and it's like, great. I'm gonna be staying here too. It's like, great. We're gonna be doing some boisterous fucking. But like, right, that's what it is. Okay, then you will.

[Sarah Whittle]

And also like, if you made it, if you bring home a guy and you're trying to be quiet, ain't that like, that's the little fun part too, right? Yeah, that's sneaky hot part.

[Shane]

But it does make me question what you're talking about. Of like, are they using the whole space?

[Tommy]

The whole space?

[Shane]

But at that point, are some of the contracts being broken?

[Tommy]

I think so.

[Sarah Whittle]

But every time, every time with the new partner, like, I'm not.

[Shane]

It feels strange to like the if I was in if. Because I've had roommates before, but if the rule was whenever we bring someone over, you can't be here. I'm like, that does not work.

[Tommy]

It doesn't work.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, that sucks.

[Shane]

Because what if she breaks up with her boyfriend?

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

It's like, then I need to live.

[Tommy]

Here all the time.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, right, exactly.

[Tommy]

Go on a three Hour walk. Okay. A fun proposal for the person who's bringing people over.

[Sarah Whittle]

Threesome? No. Oh, I thought we were going there. I thought we were going there.

[Tommy]

Whoa.

[Sarah Whittle]

Okay. Whoa, whoa. This is a Christian channel.

[Rocket Money Narrator]

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[Shane]

We have a religious program.

[Tommy]

Yeah, we're live streaming after the rapture right now.

We are left if she wanted to pay for two thirds of the other person's rent, period.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, it's like, oh, you want full.

[Tommy]

Dominion over this space? Well, then I pay $300 a month to sleep in my bedroom sometimes.

Look, I mean, it's crazy.

[Sarah Whittle]

Like, I had. We all know offline that I had like a time in my life in Los Angeles where I was having a lot of fun going on.

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I just love that.

[Sarah Whittle]

And it was a really fun time. It never, like, phased me. Not Shane.

[Shane]

But we.

[Sarah Whittle]

But we.

[Shane]

But you guys did.

[Tommy]

Sorry, Shane. You didn't miss out on anything.

[Sarah Whittle]

You didn't miss on. It's so much fun.

[Shane]

So cool.

[Sarah Whittle]

It was so much fun.

And no shame in the game. So I think it's also, if you have a roster, that is okay, but it's like, if you don't live alone, you don't live alone. So you gotta navigate that as like a normal human being. And there was no name calling in that text. There was no insinuation.

[Tommy]

Whoa, whoa. Did you just say whore?

[Shane]

How dare you. Whoa. This is a feminist program.

No, I've had roommates before, and when people bring people over, I never thought anything of it. I was just like, yeah, dude, we're in our 20s.

[Sarah Whittle]

One time I had a roommate when I lived out here in Los Angeles and I brought a date over, and the next day she was like an older lady in her 40s. I loved living with her.

[Tommy]

That's awesome.

[Sarah Whittle]

And she was so chill and she was just like. She was just so happy to be living. Us living together in Santa Monica. And LAI had a date over one night and she was like, sarah, I was hearing a little bit of last night.

And she was like, that was kind of hot. And I was like, right, right, okay.

[Tommy]

So there you go. Maybe it could be a positive experience for everyone.

[Shane]

That's insane.

[Sarah Whittle]

And I have no shame on that. And I have no.

[Shane]

That's really funny.

[Sarah Whittle]

And like, there was multiple dates going in and out of that apartment. And she never shamed me once. And so it's like. It's just having that open, like, non judgmental conversation. Claudio's gonna love watching.

You notice that.

[Shane]

A painting in your bedroom has, like, scooby Doo. Holes cut out of the eyes. She's like.

That painting. That fisherman seems to be looking around.

[Tommy]

Keep going.

[Sarah Whittle]

Stop it. I hate it. I hate it.

[Shane]

No, no, no, no. This is just like really bad roommate, like, contract. And the problem, I mean, like, what sucks now is she needs to like, move the boundary back to like a normal place of like, I do not need to leave my apartment. I'm paying rent. I'm paying rent for this day that I'm here. Like, if I leave all night, then you owe me that, whatever that amounts to then. Like, that's not fair.

[Sarah Whittle]

And living with a roommate is difficult. Like, it's a very, very hard situation. And so I think like, maybe this is a conversation or something that's just like, hey, whenever the lease is up, I think like, I gotta save up and prep to like, that feels like a good.

[Tommy]

Yeah, yeah, that's a good.

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Back to the show. So in the comments, OP mentions that she has only slept at their apartment six times in the last month. OP needs to. OP is not entitled enough. OP needs to stand for themselves and not tolerate this insanity that's less than.

[Tommy]

A week out of the month. Yeah, she should be paying $250 at that point.

[Shane]

You don't live there.

[Tommy]

You don't live there.

[Sarah Whittle]

You don't live there. You don't live there.

[Shane]

The heck.

[Sarah Whittle]

Okay, that sucks.

[Shane]

That's. This is starting to. Can I be honest? This is starting to not. I'm questioning if this person is sleeping with people. I'm starting to be like what are you actually doing that you are kicking them out of this apartment so often?

[Tommy]

Oh, you think it's like a. I'm just like.

[Shane]

I just start to be like what are all the other options, right? Like you're just having me out of the apartment so much.

[Sarah Whittle]

Well, and that roommate is probably to go down more the conspiracy. That roommate's probably like going out on dates with these people and being like, yeah, come back to my place. Like no one's there. It's like, sometimes go to their apartment. That's also fun to judge because this.

[Shane]

Has become the normal for them. They're just like, oh, I basically have this apartment to myself.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah.

[Shane]

While paying half the rent.

[Sarah Whittle]

And why do you not know if they're gonna sleep over or not? Maybe it's a first date and you don't know how it's gonna happen.

[Tommy]

Why are you doing a first date at your apartment?

[Sarah Whittle]

But no, I'm saying like the after party at the apartment. But you don't know if you're gonna like, kick him out or like, have the sleepover. But at that point it's like, yeah, what are you doing all night long?

[Rocket Money Narrator]

Right?

[Sarah Whittle]

All night long.

[Tommy]

Also, I wasn't like, with that frequency, I would be kind of worried about my stuff.

[Shane]

That's kind of more. I think it's like safety of just like you're bringing strangers.

[Sarah Whittle]

This is true too.

[Shane]

I don't know.

[Tommy]

But if it was like. If it was like three a month, four a month, I wouldn't be as concerned. But it's like I'm at home for six days. I'm out of a month.

[Sarah Whittle]

I'm still six days. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tommy]

It's like I'm gonna be bringing my laptop with me, my passport with me.

[Sarah Whittle]

But that's like a storage unit at that point.

[Shane]

It really is.

[Sarah Whittle]

It's not a home.

[Shane]

Yeah. They're being robbed. Like rent.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Comments? I mean, you two are adults. Just stay home. It's up to the guy to decide if it's weird or not. If she gets creeped out by it, then fucking his house. Yeah.

[Sarah Whittle]

Opie says, then fuck in his house.

[Shane]

Then fuck in his house.

[Rocket Money Narrator]

Dude.

[Shane]

Opie says I've told her in the past that I don't mind just putting my AirPods on and listening to music, but she says she doesn't want want me there. She rarely ever goes to their houses. She only seems to bring them here.

[Tommy]

Something's going on.

[Shane]

Like. Sorry. Someone said the main weird thing here is that either of you think the other has to leave. When you have someone over for sex, you have your own private rooms. I've never heard of roommates expecting the other to leave because they have people spending the night. Do you guys think this is normal? Because this isn't something people usually do or expect. Just because you're gonna have sex in your own separate rooms doesn't mean the other has to leave the apartment.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

Someone says, not overreacting. You are very calm and explain to why you were Upset with her request? Does she always ask you these things? So short notice? It's like you said, this is your apartment too. Sure, there's something to be said about offering each other a private evening every once in a while if there's intimate company over, depending on the housing situation, but three times in one week, regardless if it's the same person or not, is a lot. The fact that she acted like you insulted her and put words into your mouth and then acted very passive aggressively afterwards is not helping her case. I agree with another commenter that it sounds like you need to sit down and talk about this. And if not, maybe one of you needs to find another place, if that's at all possible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sarah Whittle]

This is the biggest red flag Nightmare roommate.

[Shane]

Yeah. And the way they responded to it's like, hey, I'm trying to offer like a.

[Sarah Whittle]

What are you calling me a whore?

[Shane]

Oh, you're calling me a whore. It's just like they're just shutting down the conversation.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

They know what they're doing.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Next story. This comes from amithe asshole also just a couple months ago. Am I the asshole for not waking up a tourist who overslept and missed the day trip she paid for?

[Sarah Whittle]

Just a tourist.

[Shane]

Just a tourist.

[Tommy]

Just one tourist.

[Shane]

All right. Hi guys. I, a 21 year old woman, am a Bulgarian tour guide who accompanies groups to Sicily. On a recent trip, one woman who was traveling alone, mid-30s, was consistently oversleeping. The first day after we arrived, we had a day trip to Etna and Taormina for which we departed at 8am as we do all our other day tours, I make sure that all tourists are informed of the departure times on the bus the day before and they also have my number to call in case they forget so I can remind them. They also all have printed out pamphlets with the schedule made by the travel agency that I hand out that has the time for departure on it. All of the group was on time except one woman. She was 10 minutes late, which, okay, maybe she got caught up in something and was late. I excused it, then mentioned to the whole bus on the mic that I do not tolerate lateness beyond 15 minutes at most in case of emergency, like a forgotten possession, and that I must always be called and informed in case someone is running late. The trip went by okay. Otherwise the next day the same tourist was late again by 25 minutes, almost an entire half hour. I called her twice to no answer and we were just about to leave without her when she came out running and got on the bus. She got lucky as the receptionist of the hotel asked me about a missing piece of info on the rooming list and earned her some time. I reminded everyone again that I will not be waiting anymore for late tourists in the morning and waking up on time is their responsibility. When we came back that evening, she asked me if I could make sure to wake her up on time. I reminded her a third time that I'm not responsible for waking people up. Everyone gets a printed itinerary with departure times and I announce everything. The day before, she kept saying, no, no, just knock on my door if I'm not out by 8:15. And I kept repeating, I really can't do that for everyone. Please set an alarm. Well, on the day we were visiting Syracuse, she didn't show up. I waited 15 minutes after the supposed departure time, called her twice to no response, then left with the bus and the rest of the group. She called me in a panic about an hour later asking where we were. I explained the situation calmly. She called me two days later.

[Sarah Whittle]

Now.

She called me the next business day.

[Shane]

She got angry and said that I had one job and that I cheated her out of the money she paid to go on that day trip. She missed the whole day trip and was furious the next day later, she told the rest of the group that I abandoned her and also called my agency, leaving a bad review about me.

[Sarah Whittle]

No.

[Shane]

Am I the asshole for not personally waking up a grown woman despite warning her multiple times? I wouldn't. No, no, just knock on my door.

[Tommy]

No, just knock on my door.

[Shane]

No, just knock on my door. Dude, if you pay the money to.

[Tommy]

Travel somewhere and then do the travel guide, if you. You sleep past the thing, that's your decision. That's your vacation.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Tommy]

And saying, oh, you only have one job. Sorry. Her job is to do the tour.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly. The job is not to wake you.

[Shane]

Up to do other people.

[Sarah Whittle]

She's not a concierge. She's not like, she's not your mommy.

[Tommy]

She's not your mommy.

[Sarah Whittle]

She's not mommy. Like she has a job and the job is not to wake you up.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

And can I just does it? Not like I have anxiety when I'm running late.

[Sarah Whittle]

Touch. I hate being late.

[Tommy]

I would rather be there.

I'd rather wake up so early and hate it.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Tommy]

And get to the thing on time. Cause I'll wake up late. You'll go.

[Sarah Whittle]

You know that feeling when you're playing hide and go seek and you're hiding and you have to pee? That's what feeling late feels like to.

[Shane]

Me when I'm running late, it frustrates me so much. But it's hard for me to talk on this. Cause I'm someone who wakes up so early anyways. I love to be up early so I can chill for a second before I go do the thing.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, I don't like being rushed. I just. I feel like that starts my day off on a bad day. But especially when I'm traveling. I'm so focused on one thing. The one focus is to be there and be on the tours and go. So I just don't understand, like, these are the consequences of your own action for you to blame someone else for you being late when everyone else understood the assignment. You're not only being disrespectful to the company, you're being disrespectful to everyone else on that trip. And so now they have to start the day by getting a talking to about not being late even though they were not late. It's just so inconsiderate. And to be like, oh, can you help me wake up? It's like, no, you're an adult. Be an adult, grow up and take the responsibility to wake up on time. If you are late, you are late. And that is the consequence.

[Tommy]

They also give the 10 minute oops. You had to do a morning shit.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you're late. Cause you have to shit, right?

[Tommy]

And that's okay.

I'll go. Hey, Alexina, Jonathan. Listen, I'm gonna be about 10 minutes late today. We know why I'm late.

It happened at home and not in the office. And that's okay.

[Shane]

And that's.

[Tommy]

Yeah, that's okay. Ten minutes is fine.

[Sarah Whittle]

100%.

[Tommy]

It's just this woman blows me away.

[Shane]

Cause yeah, like, she waited. It was an hour. And she's like, where are you guys?

[Sarah Whittle]

Where are you guys?

[Shane]

I'm like, so you're expecting everyone to lose an hour of their day trip for you. Cause you can't wake up well.

[Sarah Whittle]

And it's like, I've never been on a cruise. But cruises are similar, right? It's like when they dock at like an island or whatever, they don't show back up. They're like, you better show up at 3pm or the boys or you're stranded at. I can't even imagine the logistical nightmare. I'd rather be there an hour before than even five minutes before. Yeah.

[Tommy]

And be stranded in a place without my shit.

[Sarah Whittle]

I don't want to be stranded in a place.

[Shane]

And I Also understand, like, when I'm late by my own mistakes, I'm pissed off and it's like, but you can't redirect that, that you can't justify it. You have to be like, yeah, I fucked up and I'm mad at myself. She doesn't know how to be mad at herself. Yeah, she's mad. And she clearly never in her life learned how to handle that. So she just throws it out everywhere else.

[Sarah Whittle]

I think accountability in general is really hard to face when you're like, oh fuck, I fucked up, it was my fault. And so I think the natural reaction is to like force it on someone else and be like, no, it was your fault. But like, learn how to take accountability. Grow up. Set an alarm. Set 20 alarms. Like, and maybe they're like, so them.

[Shane]

Calling you is them waking you up.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly. And either way, if there's multiple factors or if there's like a medical thing or like whatever, like you, no one forced you on this trip, on this solo trip. Like, you're also wasting your money if you aren't like totally committed to the right.

[Rocket Money Advertiser]

Right.

[Tommy]

Whatever's going on, she has to prepare herself to work for the greater tour of everyone else.

[Sarah Whittle]

You have to take care of yourself.

[Tommy]

It's like, yeah.

[Shane]

Comments this woman could have also requested a wake up call from her hotel. Yes.

Someone said. I'm an avid traveler. I'd be angry to sit on the bus every morning waiting on someone who is chronically late. Time is money and she'd be wasting mine. If she's worried about hers, she needs to set an alarm. If she complained to other guests, I guarantee you they weren't feeling bad for her. Not the asshole, someone said. Did anyone notice that the tardy tourist was asking OP to knock on her door 15 minutes after the scheduled departure time? Which would mean if they were still asleep, even longer waiting time. Not the asshole.

[Tommy]

Yeah, she's not fully clothed with a coffee in her hand in bed. Ready to go.

[Sarah Whittle]

Let's go.

[Shane]

A small little update. Oh, I talked to my manager today. I was nervous at first because I was already tired of this whole shenanigan and didn't want to spend ages defending myself. So I went to him first and explained the situation before he approached me. He told me word for word, hun, I deleted that BS from my email as soon as I read it. Lol. An icon. They'll remove the bad review. Very good.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yes, we love a like customers always write not.

Right.

[Shane]

Yeah, I've never been to Italy, but a tour in Italy Sounds great.

[Tommy]

Sarah's never been either.

[Sarah Whittle]

Never ever.

[Shane]

Never.

[VRBO Advertiser]

No.

[Sarah Whittle]

We're all gonna go. Oh my gosh. A dream for all of us to go to Italy together. And Claudio tourists around. Oh my God, it's gonna be so fun.

[Tommy]

Claudio could be our Bulgarian tourist.

[Shane]

He has to have a Bulgarian accent the whole time.

[Tommy]

Yeah, he can do that.

[Shane]

He could do that.

[Tommy]

He could do that. Anyway, I hope what's your face gets some good sleep.

[Shane]

And I will, I will be waking up at 10am no matter what.

[Sarah Whittle]

That's not possible for you. Don't even, don't even joke.

[Shane]

I can't.

[Tommy]

No. We'll be up at 5:30.

[Shane]

You guys will. I'll be knocking on cafe doors like open up.

[Sarah Whittle]

And Italy does not start moving until like 10 or 11am I'm up way too early.

[Shane]

They're like, you need to set up.

[Sarah Whittle]

There's nothing gonna be going on.

[Shane]

All right. Our next story comes from relationship advice. It's about a year old. My boyfriend, 32 year old man threatened to break up with me on a Harry Potter marathon night that I, a 29 year old woman, planned because he was embarrassed and would rather drink at the club.

[Sarah Whittle]

At the club.

[Shane]

At the club.

[Sarah Whittle]

Drink at the club.

[Shane]

Yesterday was his birthday. We are both Harry Potter fans, but I'm more into it and he likes golfing in cars more than I do. Yesterday morning I asked him if he wanted to go out somewhere and I told him that I'm planning on a surprise tonight. He didn't ask anything further and left for work. During the evening, I had set the sofas, spread the blankets, arranged the coffee table, fluffed all the pillows and warmed up the place. I made. Damn. Okay.

[Tommy]

Shabbat. An owl.

[Shane]

Yeah.

Learned magic.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I made pizza at home for the first time and made smoothies. I brought all kinds of sweets and made mini Harry Potter like candies with them. I had got this idea from those reels and had always told him that I wanted to try it out. He didn't see my message till around 9.30pm and arrived at 10pm I didn't mind it much, but told him that I had everything prepared and that we could snuggle up and watch together. He told me that he was tired and didn't want to do it. So I tried requesting him to sit with me for at least one movie. He somehow agreed. He ate the pizza but didn't try any of those mini candied structures I made. And then when we were comfortable enough, the broomstick scene came on and I tell him how I used to have a crush on Draco as a kid. He suddenly got up from there and I nearly hit my head on the sofa board. He told me it was embarrassing for me to be obsessing over Harry Potter as an adult. That his friends girlfriends are more mature than me and are actually planning their lives ahead. I didn't know how me liking Harry Potter related to that. Cause I barely ever talked to him about Harry Potter much before. He just walked away after that and I let him. When I don't come to bed, he tells me I have horrible taste for even crushing on Tom Felton and that he looks like a sulken cow now. All right.

[Tommy]

Lol.

[Shane]

What hurt me most was that he didn't even taste the sweets I made or even lie down with me for at least an hour. I would have been okay to even change the movie or shut it down. And when I tried suggesting, he just kept shaking his head. He told me to fix my ways before he gets fed up and leaves me for good.

[Sarah Whittle]

Oh my God.

[Shane]

And that he denied a really good offer to drink at the bar with his friends. It's morning and I haven't talked to him yet. He just left without even looking at me. I might be at fault here for not taking his interests into much consideration. I just thought we would like it because I would show him stuff like that and he always admired it. I feel kind of hurt. The pizza I made was also his favorite, but he didn't seem to show much for it. I don't know if I may be overreacting. I don't know if it's right for me to love this series anymore. It had been part of my childhood and I grew up with it. We have been together for three years now.

[Sarah Whittle]

Woo.

[Shane]

All right. There's a lot of layers.

[Sarah Whittle]

There's a lot of layers.

[Shane]

So it is the boyfriend's birthday.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yes.

[Shane]

So she plans a Harry Potter marathon for his birthday. She.

[Tommy]

Just the two of them?

[Shane]

Just the two of them.

[Sarah Whittle]

Starting at 9:30.

[Shane]

Starting at 9:36am yeah. Watching Harry Potter and he likes golfing in cars more than I do.

[Tommy]

Does that mean she also likes golfing in car? I need some red strips.

[Shane]

This is a little confusing. Yeah.

[Sarah Whittle]

I think the gist is it feels like she's more of a Harry Potter fan than he is.

[Shane]

So she made like a Harry Potter knife for his birthday, which I could see now here's the thing though.

[Sarah Whittle]

And they live together.

[Shane]

They live together.

[Tommy]

Right?

[Shane]

So it's like, okay. But he seems to like blast off on her In.

[Sarah Whittle]

In a crazy other way that are.

[Shane]

Confusing, where he's mad at her for liking Draco Malfoy right now. And then he insults Tom Felton. It's like, hey.

[Tommy]

Which we don't.

[Shane]

Hey, Tom Felton. Tom Felton does not need to catch a stray here. Right.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Sarah Whittle]

I mean, maybe a little base.

[Shane]

Like, if he started going after J.K. rowling, I'd be like, okay, fair.

[Tommy]

Okay, do it.

[Shane]

Like, I thought that was gonna be the angle. He's like, well, I don't like J.K. rowling. She's a piece of shit. It's like, okay, okay, fair.

[Tommy]

Okay, let's throw a party about that.

[Shane]

That's not what he said, though.

[Sarah Whittle]

No. Right.

[Shane]

So we're like, what's going on? Either OP is leaving out tons of history of like, wait, what's the pattern here?

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Cause you're talking. I'll also say she's like, we've been dating for three years. You're talking about your interests as if you're not really sure what you guys are into. But I also shouldn't.

[Sarah Whittle]

You know, there's a little entitlement making it like her TikTok Harry Potter movie night kind of situation.

[Shane]

This feels like her birthday.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

In reading the story, I forgot that it was his birthday and thought it was hers, so.

[Sarah Whittle]

Especially if you're in a relationship that long. But any birthday planning, I always ask the birthday person, what do you want to do? What do you want to do? You want to go out to play?

[Tommy]

What's your ideal thing?

[Sarah Whittle]

You want to stay in? Do you want to do nothing? Do you want a small group? A big group?

[Tommy]

Do you want me to build you candy structures?

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, exactly. And if the person's like, I'm down for whatever, but I want to just stay home or whatever. Like, I think when it comes to people's birthdays, everyone approaches it in such a different manner. For you to make a surprise like this so focused on your interests, it, like, already is a tough situation.

[Shane]

Yeah, it's a little bit interesting. And he did get invites to go hang out with friends, but it's like, did she ask? We don't have a lot of info on, like, what was the planning process of this?

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, there's a little bit of, like.

[Shane]

A lot of confusing stuff.

This all would have been solved if she just made it a Lord of the Rings watch party.

[Sarah Whittle]

Okay.

[Shane]

Cause it's just far superior. It's just far better.

Pretty much anything. Comments?

I know you feel bad, but, sis, you practically planned a night for You. Not for his birthday.

[Rocket Money Advertiser]

Exactly.

[Shane]

Opie says, I honestly wouldn't mind if that means spending time with him. Op. What are. What.

[Tommy]

What does that mean? She's not.

[Shane]

I think she speaks in riddles.

[Sarah Whittle]

She's like, I just want to spend time with him. But maybe you could have spent time at the club with the drinking, if that's what he wanted to do.

[Shane]

You can spend time with him if you make it for him.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly. Right.

[Tommy]

Bring a cloak and a scarf if you have to.

[Sarah Whittle]

But it's also like, I'll say okay. Cause there's so much going on too. Like him picking a fight about multiple random. No one's in the clear here.

[Shane]

I think it's my takeaway is, oh, this communication has been so bad for so long. You guys don't like each other and you have not come to terms with anything.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

The boyfriend could be mad because of the way this birthday was planned for her and not for him. But he's expressing it in horrible. Just. He's expressing it horribly.

[Tommy]

I don't feel seen because this is more about you. Instead, he's like, I think you're stupid. I hate jk.

[Sarah Whittle]

Muffoy's ugly. He's ugly.

[Tommy]

He ugly. Bad taste.

[Sarah Whittle]

He has blonde hair. You want me to get blonde hair now?

[Shane]

Yeah. It's like, oh, so you're calling me a whore?

Someone else said, maybe he'll take you for 18 holes of golf in a car show for your birthday.

[Tommy]

That's awesome.

[Shane]

Got him. Someone says, as a 13 year old man, he may like Harry.

[Sarah Whittle]

Sorry, when I say you said 13.

[Shane]

As a 13 year old man.

As a 32 year old man, he may like Harry Potter, but his idea of a birthday surprise is not a Harry Potter marathon. You sound very entitled. He didn't even taste the sweets I made or even lie down with me for at least an hour. He feels you have different ideas and wants a more grown up evening. There may be more issues at heart for him too. I feel this is the final straw sort of incident. You need to sit down and have a calm conversation with him.

[Sarah Whittle]

I don't like grown up evening, though. Why did that make me mad? Because I think, like, there's nothing wrong with having.

[Shane]

None of this is wrong if it's.

[Sarah Whittle]

What he wanted, like childlike joy. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Shane]

A movie marathon is Disney.

[Sarah Whittle]

Adults like, yeah, you really want to.

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[Sarah Whittle]

But like you're not enjoying but the communication, it's just.

[Shane]

Exactly. Yes.

[Tommy]

We don't need to limit anything. It's just about doing what he wants for his birthday.

[Shane]

Right, Right. And yes. And the comment does point out like she's upset because of what he's not doing.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

On his birthday.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

It's like, hey, this wasn't your night.

[Sarah Whittle]

He didn't like his birthday the way I wanted him to like it.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Right.

[Shane]

All right, moving on. Our next story comes from. Am I the butt face? This is posted in 2019. There's another one. Am I the butt face? There's just a bunch of. There's a bunch of.

[Sarah Whittle]

Is that the Christian one? Cause I don't wanna say assholes.

[Shane]

Not necessarily. They all just have slightly different rules on what can be posted. Cause.

[Sarah Whittle]

So what's butt face?

[Tommy]

What's butt face? Shit out your mouth.

[Shane]

Yeah, probably shit out your mouth. Shut your mouth. I know the og. Am I the asshole? Subreddit. It's not allowed to do with relationships. Like it has a weird that has weird mod rules. So then other ones are made, but faces.

[Tommy]

No eyes. No nose.

[Shane]

Exactly. Well, two cheeks. The butthole is the nose, which is awful.

[Tommy]

I don't know if that's new.

[Shane]

It just smells.

[Tommy]

And I've never thought of that that way.

[Shane]

And it just smells bad all the time.

All right, this comes from. Am I the Buttface 2019. Would I be the butt face if I demanded to know who reported me to hr?

[Sarah Whittle]

Butt face.

[Shane]

Butt face.

[Tommy]

I want to take this seriously, but butt face is so hard.

[Shane]

I know. I am in my early 30s and male. In our office, I am known as a bit of a jokester. Oh, nothing mean. And I don't go out of my way to prank someone or hurt anyone's feelings. But I have plenty of jokes and give lots of silly nicknames.

[Tommy]

I'm not. I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it.

[Shane]

I'm kind of a jokester. I know.

[Rocket Money Narrator]

I saw you.

[Sarah Whittle]

You too. You turned into an American immediately.

[Shane]

Silly nicknames.

[Sarah Whittle]

No.

[Shane]

There is a newer woman in our office. She's in her early twenties and she has a three year old. They live in an RV park a few miles away from work and I've nicknamed her R.V. reba. No, no, I didn't see the harm. It's just a silly nickname. I've given silly nicknames to most of my co workers. If anyone complains about it, I just explain. I don't mean anything by it. It's just a silly thing I do. And there was no reason for them to be offended.

[Sarah Whittle]

RV I like how he's like, no offense.

[Shane]

Yeah, no offense.

[Tommy]

RV Reba.

[Sarah Whittle]

RV Reba shall take no offense.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Shane]

They continue. RV Reba wasn't thrilled with the nickname, said it was insulting. But I explained it wasn't intended to be. It was just something silly I came up with. She asked me to stop using it. I don't use it around her much anymore, but I think it's a silly thing to get upset about, so I still use it around others. Well, someone reported me to hr. I got called into a meeting this morning and given a written warning to stop harassing my coworkers. I don't see how this is harassing at all. They're silly nicknames. I asked who reported me and they said it was not just one person, but multiple complaints. RV Reba and a few others were getting coffee.

[Sarah Whittle]

It's just like every time.

[Shane]

And I wanted to know who reported me. RV Reba said she didn't know, but was glad they spoke to me about it, since I wasn't listening to them asking me to stop. I think it was probably her and one of the two other coworkers who can never take a joke. I want to know exactly who it was, though. A few co workers said I'm already the butt face and should let it go. But I really want to know who reported me. Would I be the butt face if I demanded to know who it was? I just love it says verdict. Butt face.

[Tommy]

Well, yes, he is the butt face.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, but you're a Fred. You are the butt face.

[Shane]

Yeah, you're the butt face.

[Tommy]

I think legally you are entitled to know who reported due to hr.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, it doesn't matter if you're the butt face for demanding it. Multiple people say, that's just not gonna happen.

[Tommy]

Multiple people say, yeah, if multiple people are like, you suck, star. Stop doing that. You should not do that.

[Sarah Whittle]

This is very classic. Like, it's a joke. I'm just joking.

[Shane]

I'm just joking around.

[Sarah Whittle]

That doesn't wash you of your chest?

[Tommy]

Yeah. It doesn't wash you.

[Sarah Whittle]

Or even how people can feel about a certain nickname or a certain joke.

[Shane]

Right?

[Sarah Whittle]

Ever heard of empathy? Ever heard of compassion? Ever heard of respect?

[Shane]

It's true. Even for our workspace where our job is telling jokes and being silly. Right. We're expected to be silly all the time. Now, even here, if someone goes, hey, I don't like that joke exactly, we go, all right, we won't say that exactly. Yeah, but they're in, I'm assuming, a workspace where telling jokes is not part of the job. The job. But even, like, you're not even expected to tell jokes, man. Like, don't, like, tell jokes. That's fine. But if someone tells you to stop, you have to stop.

[Tommy]

You better stop.

[Shane]

You're not expected to be making people laugh.

[Sarah Whittle]

But even if we drill it down to what it is, it's not even like a ba da bum joke. It is a nickname. And you shouldn't give nicknames to people.

[Tommy]

That have names already.

[Shane]

It's also straight up.

[Sarah Whittle]

Also, you're not friends.

[Shane]

Also, if we're gonna talk about giving nicknames. Horrible nickname.

[Sarah Whittle]

Horrible nickname.

[Shane]

RV Reba. You assigned their location and then their name.

[Sarah Whittle]

Well, she's a single mom that works two jobs. Like, come on, that's so.

[Shane]

That's true.

[Sarah Whittle]

Heavy. Like what he's saying. And it's also like, she just started a new job. She's young. She's trying to like, being a woman in the workplace is also very hard. She's trying to make.

A name for herself in the place. Like, whenever you.

[Tommy]

The name is not RV Reba, and.

[Sarah Whittle]

It'S not RV Reba. And I think that's just so condescending and weird and off putting. Like, absolutely should be reported to HR and absolutely should quit this shit. Like, you are not hired to make silly jokes on the job. Be a professional. Be respectful, especially to women. Like, it's just so beyond me that he thinks, like, oh, I'm just being silly. And it's like, did anyone hire you to be silly?

[Shane]

No.

[Tommy]

No. Absolutely not.

[Shane]

Yeah. Cause your explanation makes it sound like she's a little bit more of an Arvy Brockovich. You know.

[Tommy]

We'Ll cut that.

[Sarah Whittle]

But I will say, like, I've been lucky that I've worked in workplaces that, like, even if I am, like, there's a joke that goes too far or something like that, I am the type of person that's like, hey, can you not joke about that? And everyone's been very nice about it. I've always worked in these creative video fields, so sometimes the lines get blurred. And so the fact that having to ask more than once or even just to explain why it's inappropriate, it's just beyond me. We're adults here.

[Shane]

Yeah. Yeah. I wonder if it's because in our creative fields, I mean. No, I hear horror stories about it in our fields, too, but I feel like working at Smosh. Like, inevitably we run into this so often. Right?

[Tommy]

Yeah, of course.

[Shane]

I mean, it's not even amongst ourselves, but just in our videos where we go like, oh, we did something that we. That we won't say that again, or like, oh, that didn't look good. That didn't look good, or whatever. So I feel like it's just part of our job. So we just have so much experience with it. Not to take it so personally when it's like, hey, just don't say that. Learn the behavior now, right?

[Tommy]

Someone saying, I don't like that you say that, or, I don't like that. That doesn't mean that. Like, I mean, maybe not this guy, but that doesn't mean, like, you're a bad person or, I hate you now. It's just like, hey, I'm drawing a line right there for that thing and that's it. And you just go, great, I won't do that anymore. Let's have fun elsewhere, Right? It's insane.

[Sarah Whittle]

And I think, what is he gonna do with that information? If they name names, which they're not going to. Cause they have to protect who did the report like, and what then he's gonna pursue that. He's create a hairstyle interaction. He's gonna retaliate.

[Shane]

He's gonna do.

[Sarah Whittle]

Be mean to that person. Like, grow up.

[Shane]

Yeah. He also is clearly, like, lacking self awareness of, hey, like, nicknames, jokes, it's one thing. But you are a man in your 30s and she is a young woman in her early 20s who is new to this job. And so, like, you have to understand how this is gonna come across. Like, she's in a place where she probably feels scared to speak up for herself.

[Sarah Whittle]

Well, she's new, too.

[Shane]

She's new and, like, the last thing.

[Sarah Whittle]

You wanna do as a new person is, like, ruffle the feathers and, like, be, like, feel like it's hostile. It's a very.

[Shane]

They're stuck there.

[Tommy]

She's in a hard spot.

[Shane]

They're stuck there. Make this easy for them.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly. And we've all met people that kind of don't know when to stop joking. Even breathing, even if they're not funny. Especially they just like, I wish I had that confidence. But we've all been around those people, and I think it is a very difficult situation to sit them down and be like, hey, I get you think you're silly, but this is not silly goose time. This is be a professional.

[Shane]

And HR did their job here, which is to just lay something out as straightforward as possible. Just like, hey, stop.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yep, yep.

[Shane]

We're asking you to stop doing this thing.

[Tommy]

We've had reports and end it.

[Shane]

Comments. I think you know, you're the butt face. Your jokes aren't amusing to others. This has been explicitly spelled out to you multiple times from the sound of it. Therefore, you should have already stopped. If others aren't laughing, it's not funny. If it's not funny, it's not a joke. If it's not a joke, your continued behavior is harassment. Stop it before you quite rightly lose your job. Someone said you are the butt face. Massively. You zero in on something that someone finds embarrassing and repeatedly pointed out to all and sundry. You say it's just a laugh, but plainly not for Reba. I'm glad your colleagues reported you. You sound like a horrible person to have around. Someone said you're the asshole and insulting. What's wrong with you? You are not. You don't get to demand anything you can request. You can be told no. You do not get to decide what people want or like to be called. You do not get to decide what someone feels about Anything with multiple people complaining. I'm shocked you're not in more trouble. What you're doing is harassment and bullying. You're at a place of work. Be more mature and professional.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yep.

[Shane]

Damn, that's right.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah. I also think, like, I've been in relationships and dynamics mostly with like a male and me, where if you do say your boundaries or you're like, hey, that's not funny, or hey, that makes they go, it's a joke. So I think it's like, if your response is it's a joke, that itself needs to be a self reflection thing. Cause you're also brushing off that person's emotions. And I've been in that situation kind of gas lit of like, it's just a joke. Why are you taking it so seriously? And you're like, well, I'm kind of not feeling great after you said that thing. And that's the issue.

[Shane]

Yeah. And like, we work in comedy and we know, like jokes do. There's like a reality to it.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Like, you can't just say like, oh, well, it's just all silly and there's no implications. There's no meaning behind it. It's like all jokes have some reality to it. How much of it is to be determined, but it's a very privileged position as a guy to just be like, oh, it's just fine. It's whatever. It's like, yeah, because you're not threatened in this place.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly. Exactly.

[Shane]

Where she's scared. She doesn't know exactly. All right, our next story comes from. Am I overreacting? It's a new one. It's only like a month or so old. Am I overreacting? Girlfriend threw away the dinner I cooked because she wanted pizza instead.

[Sarah Whittle]

Oh.

What Shitty.

[Shane]

I cooked you dinner.

[Sarah Whittle]

I want pizza.

[Rocket Money Advertiser]

Pizza.

[Shane]

I want pizza. Pizza.

Girlfriend texted me earlier. I'm too tired and frustrated to even respond. I was trying to do something nice for her and surprise her with something she said she really liked, but apparently she wasn't in the mood for it. I feel pretty tired of trying in general. I guess I didn't really ask her what she wanted tonight for dinner, but I still feel pretty angry. Text messages between Op and girlfriend. So the girlfriend texts him, hey, when is your break? Can you pick up a pizza so I have something to eat tonight? Op responds, no, babe, I made the wine braised short ribs you said last night were your favorite. I got up early to cook them. You just have to pull them from the pot. There's that and the small s' Mores cake I made for Wednesday since there's extra and I figured you'd want some. Okay. So he made wine braised short ribs. Yeah. And there's s'.

[Sarah Whittle]

Mores. S' mores cake. Okay, Martha.

[Shane]

Girlfriend responds, I don't really want that, though. Can you just grab a pizza on your break? We can eat that stuff later.

[Tommy]

That's stuff.

[Shane]

That's stuff Opie says. Opie says. No, I'm locked in for the night. What's wrong with the short ribs? You literally just told me it was your favorite thing, so I made it special for you. Kind of sucke. Well, I tried it and it came out kind of gross anyway, so I'm tossing it. Can you ask to leave for a bit and stop by a Papa John's or something? I just want stuffed crust. What do you mean gross? You tossed it. As in, like, threw it away. It just tasted bad. I don't know what to tell you. It wasn't eatable. It's not a big deal. I just need to eat something tonight for dinner, though. Did you ask? Dude, what the fuck? That was expensive meat. Why would you throw it away? I already told you, I'm not leaving work. Well, I don't know what you expect me to do. It's simple as fuck. Just order a pizza. That if you're busy. Like, I have to eat something. Hello? Places are closing soon. I'm busy at work. I don't want to talk about it right now. Please figure it out. We'll talk later. She says, seriously? You're gonna be this much of an asshole over this? I didn't ask you to cook anything. If you can't deal with the basics of being a supportive partner, then it should be something I consider and find someone who will support me.

[Sarah Whittle]

Whoa. Oh.

[Rocket Money Advertiser]

Huh. Dude.

[Sarah Whittle]

Oh, no.

[Tommy]

Why can't she order the pizza?

[Sarah Whittle]

I just. What's going on? That's my confusion. That's my confusion. Why can't she get the Papa John? Dude, with the little pepper?

[Tommy]

I can't do it.

[Shane]

Can't.

[Sarah Whittle]

I can't do it.

[Tommy]

I can't do it.

[Sarah Whittle]

Clearly. She has her phone.

[Shane]

Yeah, you have your phone in your hand.

[Sarah Whittle]

You have your phone in your hands. Like, get it delivered at your workplace and just, like, heat it back up or something. Or like, oh, my God, stop and get, like, a frozen pizza. I feel like there's a lot of, like, problem solving.

[Shane]

Places are closing soon. Papa John's is open forever. Yes, you can get. If there's one thing you can get at any time, it's pizza. You can find a pizza somewhere. I don't know where you live, but, like, you could probably find a pizza. And if not, there's short ribs. She's at home. She threw the short ribs away.

[Sarah Whittle]

I think that's a little brutal to say, like, over text. Like, I feel like I don't even know where to begin with this story. There's so much. I'm like, line by line, let's go. This is a lot. This is a lot.

[Shane]

This is ridiculous. Okay, so this is where it goes beyond, like, needing. Like, if I knew this guy, I'm like, we don't need to talk about this, man. Yeah, I know. It's like, I'd be like, man, look in the mirror.

[Sarah Whittle]

Everybody sit down. Take a breath.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Sarah Whittle]

How long did they say how long they were together for?

[Shane]

No, but, like, we don't get much before the text messages.

[Sarah Whittle]

So who posted this?

[Shane]

The boyfriend posted this, and he posted all the screenshots of the text messages. And.

Yeah. The verdict's not overreacting, by the way. Right.

[Tommy]

Of course.

[Shane]

We probably get some more in the comments. Let's. Let's go to the comments. Yeah, you really shouldn't be dating a teenager. I can't comprehend this person being an adult. Sarcasm aside, get the hell out of this relationship. You want to spend the next 40 years or whatever with someone who throws homemade meals in the garbage, demands pizza from a chain restaurant, and is seemingly incapable of ordering delivery herself and is rude as fuck to you? Dude, there are so many red flags in this exchange that you could open up an Etsy store selling used red flags and become a multimillionaire.

[Sarah Whittle]

Okay, okay.

[Shane]

Fedora time.

[Sarah Whittle]

Okay, okay. Stand up.

[Shane]

Comedian Op responds to that, though, and says, not sure why I can't edit to add more information on mobile, but I'm borrowing the top comment to answer some questions. She lost her card last week while hanging out with some friends and had to cancel her account. She's using mine until her new one comes in the mail. I have not gotten to eat any of the prepared food. Cooking is my love language. I think I mostly just feel heartbroken at this point, and that's why I've decided to just finish work tonight and talk to her in the morning about it. Dude, my God, she sounds useless.

[Tommy]

It's his love language.

[Sarah Whittle]

I know, but that's what my gut. I was thinking, like, maybe their love languages are off. And then there's also no consideration.

[Shane]

She threw it out.

[Sarah Whittle]

Threw it out is crazy.

[Shane]

Throwing it out before even asking before.

[Tommy]

He gets to eat it.

[Shane]

Yeah, yeah, that's a breakup.

[Sarah Whittle]

But I'm thinking, like, maybe there are a stew or whatever is savable.

[Tommy]

A stew's always savable.

[Sarah Whittle]

I feel like a stew.

[Tommy]

Add more of the other stuff.

[Shane]

Yeah, more than. I don't believe her that she tried it.

[Tommy]

No, he wanted a pizza.

[Sarah Whittle]

Pizza.

[Shane]

It's not eatable.

[Sarah Whittle]

Eatable, eatable.

[Shane]

That's all I need. It's not eatable. I mispronounce stuff all the time. But no.

[Sarah Whittle]

And he works quickly. She said it last night and he cooked it this morning.

[Rocket Money Narrator]

Damn.

[Shane]

I know. She could have at least sent a text like, hey, babe, I appreciate you cooking dinner, but it wasn't my favorite. Can we order something else instead?

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

There was no appreciation shown, and just throwing it away was rude, especially if you liked it. I honestly probably would have just ordered myself something else to eat and told you later that I didn't like it, et cetera. Your feelings are vast. Update. Oh, yes.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yay.

[Shane]

After spending the morning at a friend's house, I went ahead and just went back to our apartment. I haven't really slept, honestly, with how anxious I've been. Basically, I went back to the apartment. She was there scrolling on her phone. I went ahead and just came out with it and explained to her that I can't keep trying to make things work with someone who doesn't care about what I do for them. She started to cry and told me it's just the way her brain works and it's not her fault.

She said she's trying in therapy and that she feels like she doesn't deserve to be loved. I more or less.

[Sarah Whittle]

Oh, no.

[Rocket Money Narrator]

Oh no.

[Sarah Whittle]

I gotta go home now.

[Shane]

I more or less followed up and explained to her I can't be the one to keep dealing with her when she treats me like garbage. She basically got angry as hell at this point and told me I never cared and I never really tried or I wouldn't just leave over something so stupid. She broke a glass I kept from growing. She broke.

[Sarah Whittle]

No, come on.

[Shane]

She broke a glass I kept from growing up that was sitting on our counter by throwing it on the ground, at which point I just stopped talking. I spent an hour with her yelling and begging me while I grabbed things I have that are valuable. I'm just going to disappear for a bit at my friends. I need to figure out what to do about the rent and stuff since we have a month until renewal. I know it's not really all that crazy of an update, but I.

[Sarah Whittle]

Not that Crazy. She's throwing things.

[Shane]

But I wanted to just get in and out and be done after thinking about it and being ready to move on from being. I appreciate everyone's comments. And to the people who reached out, I'll be honest, I feel like I've wasted a ton of my life trying to help a broken person. And it's just equal parts depressing while also a feeling of being empty and tired. I'm going to try my best to make things better in my life and only give people who appreciate me and the stuff that I do.

[Sarah Whittle]

That's the whole point, that last sentence.

[Tommy]

You can't be down on yourself for trying, you know, for. For doing that thing of trying to help someone. I know we all have the thing of, you can't. They have to help themselves. You can't be the person. But it's like, I feel like it's a canon event for most people to be in a relationship with someone who is like this, who has probably some wonderful positive things, but then has these other things that are hard to deal with.

[Shane]

It's a pairing that happens, I think, so often. And it's because when you know the source of someone's toxic traits.

[Tommy]

Exactly.

[Shane]

You go, well, I know why they're that way.

[Rocket Money Narrator]

Right.

[Shane]

But at a certain point, you kinda have to be like, it doesn't matter.

[Tommy]

It doesn't change.

[Shane]

Because here we are right now, and you're throwing glass.

[Tommy]

Yeah, you're breaking my glass.

[Shane]

You're breaking glass on the floor.

[Tommy]

Threw my shit away.

[Shane]

Can't be here for that.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly, exactly.

[Shane]

Oh, God.

[Tommy]

Jeez.

[Sarah Whittle]

I think it's also too like, you kind of like. I think I'm a natural optimist, but I think in relationship, everyone is a natural optimist. So you're just like, you know, maybe they had a bad day. You're being very compassionate. You're being very empathetic. But there is a point in relationships where you can also go, this is just not gonna work. And it's like, I still care for the person. Of course there's still emotions there. Like, he's probably going through some heartbreak too. But, like, at some point you gotta be like, this is not my mess to fix, and this is also not my person that I want to continue with. And so you kind of have to, like, break the cycle. So sometimes little things like this break it, where you're like, holy shit.

[Tommy]

When the cycle breaks, you're like, oh, my God. I'm like, finally, I'm free.

[Sarah Whittle]

Frontal lobes are connecting and snapping and you're like contortion. You're like, oh my God. And then like six months later, when it's just a story. Cause everything you do turns into just a story. You're like, holy shit, thank God I got out when I did. Because like, that's just not a mess that I had to clean up. Especially when this is my life as well.

[Tommy]

And you look back and you go, there's no way I could have ever clicked. Like, there was no chance of me ever doing that.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly, exactly.

[Shane]

And you know, I've been in situations where I look back and I go, oh, I was never gonna help this person.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Tommy]

Right, Exactly.

[Shane]

Like by just being there, by just, you know, being part of the toxic. They're doing their toxic things and I'm tolerating it.

[Rocket Money Narrator]

Right.

[Shane]

Like, what's gonna happen here? No, we have to leave this.

[Tommy]

We have to leave this.

[Sarah Whittle]

And there's guilt, I think there's. When you're that person that's finally making call and witnessing all this stuff happen. As he's packing up and she's crying and begging, you're feeling guilty. Cause you're like, oh shit, I am quitting this thing. But some things are worth quitting and some things are worth walking away. And relationships are like, if you're in a bad relationship, it is so. And not even bad, a wrong relationship. It's painful as hell. I'd much rather be by myself figuring out than being in a situation like that. So he's making a good call. Not only for him, but for her as well. Cause she has growth to do too. Saying I'm unlovable. It's like that's taking the account.

[Tommy]

That was a manipulation tactic.

[Sarah Whittle]

Taking the accountability out of it. Because it's like you unlovable. You just crashed a glass from my childhood on the floor.

[Tommy]

Are you trying to prove your own point?

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly. Like it's a self fulfilling prophecy at that point.

[Shane]

Exactly, yeah.

[Tommy]

Oh, God. I mean, it's.

[Shane]

Honestly, I feel bad, but for both.

[Tommy]

Of them in a way, you know, it's like.

[Shane]

But he is making the right move by getting out.

[Sarah Whittle]

And sometimes the chemistry of like two people like that is just like a bad situation. Like I've not been perfect in relationships either. And just that chemistry is often crazy.

[Tommy]

Sometimes you have two people that don't.

[Sarah Whittle]

That don't mix.

[Shane]

Right.

[Sarah Whittle]

It's like the volcano experiment. Like baking soda and the like vinegar.

[Tommy]

Exactly.

[Sarah Whittle]

It's just like, this is not my best and I don't know.

[Shane]

We don't know.

[Sarah Whittle]

You're like, I'm not bringing my A game. I'm bringing my.

[Shane]

Bringing my hydrogen peroxide for this.

[Tommy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Shane]

We don't know their ages, but I do think it sounds like she sounds very young. Maybe she's not, but she's coming across. But I'm glad that she's in therapy. Yes. But I'm sure the therapist would probably be glad to know, like, hey, yeah, that relationship should not be happening, especially if this is the type of behavior she's eliciting. But I'm hopeful if she genuinely puts work in which it sounds like she needs to still do.

[Sarah Whittle]

But you won't ever find that.

Answer to am I unlovable in another person?

[Shane]

Nope.

[Sarah Whittle]

You gotta RuPaul. What does RuPaul say? You gotta love yourself first.

[Shane]

How the hell are you gonna love somebody else?

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, exactly. If you don't love yourself. And that's 100% it.

[Shane]

That's true.

[Sarah Whittle]

If you don't find the reasons why you would fall in love with.

It'S gonna be an endless source of failed relationships.

[Shane]

Right.

Well, I hope for the best for the both of them.

[Tommy]

Same.

[Shane]

And they will, but I'm.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, they will. I'm very optimistic. If they do the work, they will.

[Shane]

Right. All right, moving on to our last story.

[Tommy]

Wow.

[Shane]

This comes from Relationship advice. Comes from 2022. I, a 25 year old woman begged my partner, a 28 year old man, for an open relationship. Eight months in, he left for another woman.

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[Sarah Whittle]

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[Sarah Whittle]

I'll this is a cliffhanger.

[Shane]

So I have read so many stories on Reddit. We don't read a lot of these types of ones here, but I have read so many stories and heard so many stories about poly people in monogamous relationships asking for poly relationships and then it backfiring on them. Yes, I've heard about that so much. It's also similar. There are so many stories on Reddit about people having threesomes and then the aftermath of it and it's. They are crazy stories.

[Sarah Whittle]

This is a wild one to end with.

[Shane]

This is nuts. Eight months ago I, a 25 year old woman asked my partner, a 28 year old man, for an open relationship. As I got bored with him. Oh, nothing wrong, but he just didn't excite me much and he agreed. But he proceeded to tell me there's a catch. If he catches feelings for a partner, he's going to leave me for her. Oh.

[Sarah Whittle]

Oh, this is. This is like, yeah, it's like.

Yeah.

[Shane]

You want to do this?

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

Oh, you want to fucking do this?

[Sarah Whittle]

You want to fuck someone else? Yeah, and if I fuck someone real good, I go fuck.

[Shane]

So he said if he catches feelings for a partner, he's going to leave me for her. And that's exactly what happened.

[Sarah Whittle]

Well, he said it was gonna happen and she was born with it.

[Shane]

And she continues I want him back in my arms. He left me for his new partner. What can I do to win the love of my life back?

[Tommy]

Time machine, baby.

[Sarah Whittle]

Love of my life.

[Tommy]

Time machine.

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[Shane]

I thought he bored you.

[Sarah Whittle]

I thought he was fucking boring.

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[Shane]

Look man, that's not a reason. That's not a reason to get into an open relationship like that. Come on, man.

[Sarah Whittle]

Wait, that's the whole thing.

[Shane]

So that's. I will say there's an update.

[Sarah Whittle]

Oh, okay.

[Tommy]

But that's the maintenance story.

[Shane]

That is the post. Okay, so she posted that being like guys, I was bored. I was bored. So I wanted an open relationship.

[Sarah Whittle]

So I want to open up a relationship.

[Tommy]

And he told me exactly what would.

[Sarah Whittle]

Happen and he told him like bold.

[Shane]

Move on him to be like, well, all right.

[Sarah Whittle]

Cause I've also heard of people like requesting an open relationship, but they have like different rules of let's. You can't go on more than one date with a person. So it's like basically like you have an open door to do one night stands.

[Shane]

From what I know of people who have open relationships is. It is like you. Everything is an agreed upon thing.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

You have to really lay it out. But it's also the people that I know that it seems to be working with. It's like they both got into a poly relationship.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah. It was like, that was to be.

[Shane]

A monogamous relationship and then be like, let's open our relationship.

[Tommy]

That does not work.

[Shane]

At least anecdotally from everyone I know. Same same that I'm like, no one of you wanted to cheat or you were already cheating and this is your way into it. It's like, no, if you wanna be poly, I think you need to end your relationship and go. And then start a poly relationship.

[Sarah Whittle]

On even grounds. Yeah.

[Shane]

But like to go from monogamous to poly, both of you probably have different ideas of it. You're both going into a new thing, like at the same time. Your ideas of it are so different.

[Tommy]

You're starting a new relationship, kind of.

[Shane]

And then it didn't work out. This new type of relationship didn't work for you.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah. I've never explored open relationship. Claudio and I are monogamous, but we've had this conversation a lot. Just to go through the exercise, just.

[Tommy]

To be like, what would that be like if we did that?

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly, exactly. And to me, it's not even like if we're doubling the relationship, it's double the work. I think it's like exponential. I think it's like if I. If we were to have an open relationship, it's not double the work. It's almost like triple the work. Because it's like. Yeah. It's just exponentially. The communication needs to go. The dynamics between all the different things, the nights out. There's a lot involved that there's a social responsibility in those dynamics to put a lot of work into it.

[Shane]

It's a massive change. And if you're making that change, it's gotta be like, oh, this is something so deep in me.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah.

[Shane]

That this is who I am and this is what I want. Not just, oh, I got bored with my partner.

[Tommy]

I can't accept the eye of that.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, it does sound fun. In Fluffy World, it's like, of course. Yeah. I get to smooch the cuties over.

[Tommy]

There and go home to my love of my life. Isn't that nice and beautiful?

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[Sarah Whittle]

Isn't that nice and beautiful? But if you really think about it, it's complex inside.

[Shane]

Okay, See, I have too much anxiety for that shit. I'm like, oh, same. Yeah.

[Sarah Whittle]

I just think it's like what Claudio and I have with us being together and our love is like, I just love it so much. That is like an hour or two of playtime really worth all that extra hubbub to, like, make that worth it. I'm like, well, no. And if I'm bored, maybe in like our sex life or whatever, that's a conversation to have with my partner for before I go exploring. So, like, if she was bored in the bedroom, like, talk about.

[Shane]

She's also blaming. She's like, I got bored with him. And it's like, hey, that's a thing. Yeah, but this is how you're solving it. And it's like, you're bored with him. That may not be just him. That's you two together.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah.

[Tommy]

That's a dynamic.

[Shane]

There was a really interesting. I forget it was in a book I read about, like, you know, when you've been together for years upon years, like, you have to find a way to continue the narrative.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yes.

[Shane]

Right. Cause when you're single and you're dating, it's like, whoa. These exciting elements, like, whoa. And she's looking for a rush that she'll get from meeting new people. But that rush will end too.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

She's treating it like a drug where it's like, you can find that rush.

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

But you have to work on that together.

[Sarah Whittle]

And that's creativity, communication. Like, maybe a sex therapist. Like, these things work totally. They take time and focus.

[Shane]

Not the best, but she made a brash, massive decision, not considering the ramifications.

[Tommy]

I just love that he was like, I will leave you if I catch Felix.

[Shane]

Crazy move. And he did it.

[Sarah Whittle]

He thought, like, that'll get her to not open up the relationship.

[Shane]

I think he. To me, it feels like he almost broke up then and there.

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[Shane]

Like, he was like, this relationship's over.

[Tommy]

I'll go hunting for someone else.

[Shane]

Comments, Comments. Not gonna lie. That's the ultimate reverse card for this situation. Big ups, you're out. Op said, really?

[Sarah Whittle]

He said exactly what he was gonna do.

[Shane]

Someone said, haha, good for him. Get a therapist to help you work on yourself so you learn to end an unhealthy relationship. Instead of pretending to be Pauly, Op said, I have been in and out of therapy for at least a year now. Someone said yes. Really? You played yourself. He didn't excite you. So you asked for an open relationship and now you want him back. When he caught feelings for someone while in the open relationship that you asked for in the first place. You only have yourself to blame for this one. You should stay single for a while and grow up. I don't want to be single. I want to prove to my boyfriend I can be better now.

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[Shane]

All right.

[Tommy]

Okay.

[Sarah Whittle]

It's too late.

[Shane]

Update.

[Tommy]

Oh.

[Shane]

Probably nobody asked for this, but here's an update.

[Sarah Whittle]

It's so aggressive.

[Shane]

Probably nobody asked for this.

[Tommy]

Yeah, the way that this person writes.

[Sarah Whittle]

Polly, nobody asked. Nobody asked for this.

[Shane]

Hey.

[Tommy]

Nice.

[Shane]

I was kicked out of his house last Sunday. That's six days now. And I excruciatingly miss him. I will do anything to get him to return to me. But he looks happy on social media with his new partner that I'm pretty sure he was cheating on me with.

[Sarah Whittle]

But you were open.

[Shane]

You were in an open relationship. Anyways, I tried calling him. No answer. I saw him in public and he pretend to not even know who the fuck I was. He won't acknowledge my existence. So I went to our former place just to. And things got hostile. His new girlfriend hates me for some reason. I didn't even know her. And she proceeded to try and attack me while he tried to split us up and get me out the door. When he had his back turned, she maced me. And now what? And now he's trying to file a restraining order on me. The hell did I do wrong? She attacked me and pepper sprayed me.

[Sarah Whittle]

Didn't you show up at their house?

[Tommy]

Yes, she did.

[Shane]

How can I convince him he's dating a psychopath?

[Sarah Whittle]

Uh. Oh. Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.

[Shane]

Oh, my.

[Sarah Whittle]

That's wild. That's embarrassing. Is this real?

[Shane]

It's probably not. But.

It'S probably. I'll say this. It's probably not. But I know of these types of situations. I know of these anecdotally, yes. Not of showing up and getting pepper sprayed, but of the open relationship turned into regret, into.

[Tommy]

That's a close.

[Shane]

I'm sorry. Sorry.

[Tommy]

Classic story.

[Shane]

Turner Classic comments. You got what you wanted. And if anyone sounds like a psychopath, it's you who is stalking their ex. Seek some mental health or do some inner reflection. But most importantly, leave the man alone and move on. Stalking? I previously lived at that residence.

[Sarah Whittle]

Or not.

[Shane]

So she was. She's like, I got kicked out six days ago.

[Sarah Whittle]

Kicked out is not like I moved out. It's like this feels like Joe from youm. You know how Joe from youm can, like, rationalize every reason he, like, murdered every woman on that show and every person. It's like you are out of touch with reality and perception. You should turn actually to your closest friends and community. Hopefully they can call you out on your shit because, like, bring it back home. Yeah. If it's getting to legal, to Mace, to separating that woman also in the relationship with your ex had nothing to do with this. She was exploring a relationship that I hope he was like, open and honest about being open to. That's. There's no reason to go after her either.

[Shane]

Yeah. This is a delusional person. If they're real.

You need to leave him alone. This isn't going to end well for you. Op responded, I can't walk away until this is fixed.

[Sarah Whittle]

Uh oh, walk away.

[Shane]

Uh, someone said, and if it was an open relationship, then how was it changed? She says, because he left me within eight months. That's way too fast.

[Sarah Whittle]

Eight months is two quarters. Two fiscal quarters. That is a very long time.

[Shane]

Okay, update number two.

[Sarah Whittle]

Oh, here we go again.

[Shane]

This will probably be the last update the restraining order has been.

[Sarah Whittle]

Thank you. Thank you, Queen.

[Shane]

We love that the restraining order has been filled and I am not allowed within 100ft of my. My ex Harry and his new girlfriend Jess. I'm planning to move back to my home in Arizona and start over. They're happy and I just want to find peace with myself. Thanks for everyone's advice and opinions. Yes, I was already in therapy and I am still in therapy. Please, anyone my age or younger listen to my advice. TikTok is not cool. Please delete it. It's done me nothing but harm. And other people's stupidity can really poison your minds. In living proof. Thank you. Take care. I'm starting to go back to thinking this is real and this is a person to trying who is very like, they've lost their mind.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, they lost the plot.

[Shane]

So Op in the comments alluded that TikTok was the reason she wanted an open relationship. She saw some stuff talking about it. So this is a very immature.

[Sarah Whittle]

Wait, wait, wait. You're telling me everything on TikTok is.

[Shane]

Not to be trusted?

[Sarah Whittle]

Not to be trusted?

[Shane]

You're telling me that. Is this some sort of misinformation?

[Sarah Whittle]

You're telling me all the people that are poly on TikTok may not be onto something?

[Shane]

Update number Three.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yes. Let's go, let's go.

[Shane]

So this is two years later.

[Sarah Whittle]

Can I make an assumption that she's gonna, like, open it up with negging herself about doing an update?

[Shane]

She's like, guys, I can't believe literally no one asked for this, but it's been two years. I've tried to stay offline and live life, but my ex and his now wife find new ways to live in my head rent free. I wanted an open relationship. So what? You don't just string me along for eight months, get some new girl who you met through me and then marry her. This isn't fair. She's living in my home with someone who should be my husband. And he's been renewing the restraining order ever since it first expired. And I know he's gonna keep doing it because for reasons beyond my knowledge, the man hates me. Fml.

[Tommy]

Dude, this is why she's doing it.

[Sarah Whittle]

Two years later.

[Tommy]

Oh, my God. This is why he's doing it.

[Shane]

Guys, I fear this is real. I fear this is real. And I will also say the way this is written has me, like, this person is typing this. Not like they're just going off.

[Tommy]

Oh, this is bad.

[Shane]

I'm scared now.

[Tommy]

I'm, like, scared for the husband and wife in the.

[Shane]

This is beyond entitled. This is. They're in a different world.

[Sarah Whittle]

They are living on a different planet, and it's unfortunate. Two years later. Ooh, man. What kind of therapy? I think the on and off. I've been in on and off therapy for. I think that, like, might say it too. Cause it's like, on and off.

[Tommy]

What are you leaving a therapist as soon as they call you out on something?

[Sarah Whittle]

Exactly.

[Shane]

Untrustworthy narrative.

[Sarah Whittle]

That could be a thing. That could be a thing. Yikes. God, take the hint. I don't know.

[Shane]

It's been two years. I don't know why I feel like the hint's gonna stick.

[Tommy]

I don't know what you would do.

[Sarah Whittle]

Also, did she not meet anyone nice when she was open? I find it so to be so sprung. Like, when he's clearly moved on.

[Shane]

The story that I've heard on Reddit, that is one of my favorite stories is a person writes in about their parents, and what happens is their parents are in their, like, 50s. The dad wants an open relationship, so they begin to have an open relationship. He starts sleeping with his secretary, who he clearly had already been sleeping with.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And then the mom just starts sleeping with tons of dudes.

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[Shane]

And the dad loses his mind. And then the mom leaves and the dad, like, then the secretary left him, and it just, like, plays out just horrendously for the dad. I am always amazed. I mean, this person is. This is scary. But I'm always amazed at people who cheat and do so much horrible stuff and then are blown away and cannot handle when their partner leaves them. Yeah. I'm like, wait, you thought you were allowed to just make all these mistakes and do all these horrible things and. And treat your partner so horribly, and the second that they choose themselves, you can't handle it. And they often can't handle it for years.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I think, like, when you're in that position, you're not even thinking of the consequences or you're rationalizing why this can be totally okay. Like, Ned, try guys podcast. Like, that's the kind of situation you're, like, looking into, and it's like. It's just already gone once you've, like, disconnected from, like, the reality of the situation.

[Shane]

Oh, wow.

[Tommy]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Well, that's all our stories.

[Sarah Whittle]

Wow.

[Tommy]

Damn, that was great.

[Sarah Whittle]

That was really solid. I think we did good here.

I feel really good.

[Shane]

I think we did some good work here.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I think we're gonna get an Emmy for this episode.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, let's get an Emmy.

[Shane]

We're getting an ego for this.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah. Brett Lincoln. Right? We got nominated or something. We.

[Shane]

Damn. Sarah. Coming back and just shooting shots at other channels. All right, let's go. Sarah, thank you so much for joining us again.

[Sarah Whittle]

Thank you guys so much. These are so fun.

[Shane]

You're always welcome here.

[Sarah Whittle]

I love coming back.

[Shane]

Well, I think we'll see you on some other videos, too, so.

[Tommy]

Yeah, just a few other ones today and tomorrow.

[Sarah Whittle]

Yeah, just a little bit.

[Shane]

Just a couple other things.

[Sarah Whittle]

Doing a whole tour.

[Shane]

Nice. And, Tommy, thank you for joining.

[Tommy]

Okay, thanks.

[Shane]

Okay. Okay, great.

[Tommy]

Yeah, I live here.

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[Shane]

And thank you so much for watching. Let us know what other types of stories and categories and subreds you want to see on this show, and we'll see you next Saturday. Goodbye.

[Tommy]

Don't be a butt face.

[Shane]

Don't. Hey. Don't be a butt face.

[Tommy]

Don't be a butt face.

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