These Are Their Confessions | Reading Reddit Stories

Summary

Smosh Reads Reddit Stories: "These Are Their Confessions"

Episode Date: December 20, 2025
Host: Shane Topp
Guests: Chance, Arasha
Theme: Wild Reddit Confessions

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Shane, Chance, and Arasha dive into a series of jaw-dropping Reddit confessions covering regretful Bitcoin transactions, fraught romantic relationships, workplace dress code drama, petty tattoo revenge, and a relationship scandal with a tragic ending. They deliver their trademark blend of unfiltered commentary, dark humor, and earnest reflection, exploring how online anonymity brings out secrets people would never share elsewhere.

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1. The Bitcoin Escort Regret

Segment Start: [03:04]

Reddit Post Summary:
A man confesses he paid an escort three Bitcoin in 2013 (then worth about $300, now over $350,000) and has obsessively tracked her wallet ever since. Recently, he saw she started cashing it out—triggering intense regret and fixation on his past financial decisions.

Key Discussion:

• Fate and Regret: Hosts compare it to stories of people losing fortunes in early bitcoin days:

  “He seems to be aware that, like, yes, he knows what actually happened. But I know of many stories… of people who had bitcoin and then… lost it.” – Shane [05:54]

• Ownership and Letting Go:

  “It’s not your money anymore. It was a gamble.” – Chance [05:31]

• Empathizing With the Escort:

  “Good for her. That was risky of her to accept it as payment.” – Shane [07:58]

Notable Quote:

“Just tell people that once you had a $350,000 escort and call it a day.” – Shane, paraphrasing a Reddit comment [08:16]

Humorous Spin-off:
A bit about “old people strip clubs” and inclusivity in aging professions, riffing off a relevant Reddit comment. [09:09–10:02]

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2. Ashamed of My Long Distance Boyfriend

Segment Start: [12:35]

Reddit Post Summary:
A woman admits she is ashamed of her long-distance boyfriend’s looks. She hides him from her image-obsessed sorority life, despite loving and being attracted to him, because she fears judgment from her social circle.

Key Discussion:

• Harsh Societal Judgment:

  “She wants the world to see her with this conventionally attractive, large, masculine man… even if she was unhappy, she’d be like, well, at least appearance-wise, we look as if we are prim and proper.” – Arasha [18:00]

• Accessory vs. Real Affection:

  “She’s treating him so awfully. To hide someone like that is so cruel… If he knew this, I’d want to know if someone was embarrassed to be with me.” – Shane [22:24]

• Group Reflection:
  • Critique of the woman’s friend group’s mean-spirited comments (“ugly rat,” “troll,” etc.) and skepticism that people would really say such things unless set up.
  • Arasha and Chance speculate she’s projecting her insecurities and perhaps “setting up” coworkers’ negative comments [26:05].

Notable Quotes:

• “You could let that go and you'd feel so much better.” – Shane [23:47]
• “This is the most LA shit I've ever heard.” – Shane [23:35]

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3. "Too Much Dick" In the Office

Segment Start: [29:19]

Reddit Post Summary:
An office worker’s boss asks him to stop wearing his usual pants, claiming his “bulge is inappropriate.” He insists the pants are regular business casual and posts a photo for proof; the hosts find them totally normal.

Key Discussion:

• Double Standards:

  “Would a woman with large breasts be told she can’t wear anything but baggy clothes?” – Shane [30:29]

  • Commentary from a Reddit poster confirms women are also policed for their bodies.
• Power Abuse and Escalation:
  • The boss offers to “supervise his shopping" if the company is expected to pay for new pants – causing an HR investigation and administrative leave for the boss.

  “I need to supervise your shopping is unbelievable!” – Chance [41:25]

• Legal Perspective:

  “If she hadn’t responded to his emails with ‘this is not a request,’ he would be stuck.” – Shane [41:53]

Memorable Moment:
Finding the situation so normal, they're convinced the issue is with management, not the employee, and are floored when the boss wants to literally go shopping with him. [40:22]

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4. The Wild “Pick-Me” Tattoo Plot

Segment Start: [43:56]

Reddit Post Summary:
A woman describes lying to her "pick-me" frenemy about her tattoo plans (fake story about a Spirited Away dragon sleeve). The friend, trying to one-up her, rushes to get the exact fake tattoo, plus copies another friend’s music tattoo. The hosts marvel at how petty it is to “ruin your own skin” for revenge.

Key Discussion:

• Insecurity and Identity:

  “Her motivation is to upset this other person. And you’re willing to get a permanent tattoo on your entire arm because you think that’s going to really upset them?” – Arasha [48:42]

• Copycat Bullying:

  “She is stuck in that line of thinking as a 25-year-old… like a five-year-old who just wants the toy someone else has.” – Shane [53:02]

• Takeaway:
  • The group is equally bemused and impressed by the dedication and self-own of “winning” a petty contest by permanently altering your body.

Notable Quotes:

“I want to see how far people could go… like ‘I’m going to strap meat to myself and go to an alligator swamp.’” – Shane [53:41]

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5. Affair Guilt and Tragedy: The Story Unfolds

Segment Start: [55:42]

Reddit Post Summary:
A man confesses that his negligence contributed to his affair partner’s death (she suffered an allergic reaction, used an EpiPen, he didn't take her to the hospital). He’s wracked with guilt as his personal and professional life falls apart.

Key Discussion:

• Conspicuous Lack of Remorse:

  “At no point in this story do I believe this guy loves anyone… Amy’s the real deal, but she dies and he says nothing about her.” – Shane [64:02]

• Selfishness Laid Bare:

  “All he’s talking about is his world collapsing… someone died and there’s no guilt or grief.” – Shane [61:37]

• Update/Twist:
  • In a follow-up, OP claims the affair partner was manipulating him for money/promotions and that he’s now at peace, feeling “no responsibility” for her death.
  • Hosts are appalled by the narcissism and the “pivot to victimhood,” as OP quickly absolves himself of any fault.

  “Now that you’re finding this information, it’s justifying all your horrible thoughts and self-centeredness.” – Shane [70:36]

Comments Read Aloud:

• “Everything that’s about to happen to you is your karma.” – Reddit commenter [65:32]
• “She was an adult who had a better understanding of her medical needs… Nothing to do with me.” – OP’s update [69:06]

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6. The Co-Worker's Perspective: Layers of Truth

Segment Start: [75:45]

Reddit Post Summary:
A former coworker reveals new context: the OP in the previous story suffered a traumatic brain injury that affected his judgment, making his actions more complex. The company was corrupt and enabled both his and the affair partner’s misconduct, and even more drama is exposed about office politics and ethics.

Key Discussion:

• Nuance and Hidden Factors:

  “Whenever we get a third-party perspective… there’s always so much more crucial information.” – Shane [82:10]

• Brain Injury’s Role:

  “If you met him on a good day, you could spend a few hours with him and not realize… but there’s definitely something wrong here.” – Reddit co-worker [80:56]

• Muddying the Moral Waters:
  • The co-worker suggests both the affair partner and the company took advantage of OP’s diminished capacity.

Reflection:

• Hosts acknowledge how “real-life” is always more complex than initial impressions from anonymous confessions.
• Distressing note on how workplace environments and health circumstances shape behavior [83:01].

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Most Memorable and Notable Quotes

• On Letting Go of Regret:

  “It’s not about fixing the past, but at least I don’t have to obsessively check an old address to remind myself what I lost.” – Shane, reading Reddit confession [05:16]

• On Image and Relationships:

  “She views partners as accessories. That’s the part of her brain that needs to go.” – Chance [19:26]

• On Petty Tattoo Rivalry:

  “You got a huge tattoo because you think it’ll upset someone else? Is this a sketch?” – Shane [50:51]

• On Self-Justifying Wrongdoing:

  “You can become a worse person when you start justifying bad things to yourself. You lower the bar in your own mind.” – Shane [74:26]

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Section Timestamps

• Bitcoin Escort Regret: [03:04 – 10:02]
• Long Distance Boyfriend Shame: [12:35 – 29:12]
• Workplace Dress Code Bulge: [29:19 – 43:20]
• Tattoo Copycat Revenge: [43:56 – 55:27]
• Affair and Tragedy Confession: [55:42 – 75:44]
• Coworker’s Inside Perspective: [75:45 – 85:39]

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Tone and Host Dynamics

The Smosh cast maintains a blend of biting humor, empathy, and candid reflection—never shying away from roasting poor decisions, but pausing for genuine analysis around society’s pressures and the hidden factors shaping “villains.” Their snark is balanced with earnest cultural critiques (“LA ranking yourself by appearance,” “letting go of shame”), and genuine discomfort at more disturbing confessions.

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For More:
Check out the original Reddit posts (especially the coworker’s AMA) for further follow-ups and extra tea—as well as next week’s Smosh Reads Reddit Stories for more jaw-dropping online confessions!

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Transcript

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[Shane]

Smosh Reads Reddit Stories. I'm Shane and today's theme is confessions. We have some wild confessions today. Some, my producers say, are some of the wildest confessions we've ever had on the show. They've been waiting for months for the right episode. And that's this one right now. And I'm joined by two people who have confessions to make. Chance and Arasha go I'm a virgin.

[Chance]

I don't like truffle.

[Shane]

Okay, me neither. What?

[Arasha]

It's too powerful. It just takes over the long term.

[Chance]

It takes over whatever you're dancing, especially on the truffle oil.

[Shane]

Fuck off.

[Arasha]

Get out of here. It's like horseradish.

[Shane]

I like horseradish. Well, maybe it's just how it's being applied. I think sometimes people go overboard. Maybe they need to just do a little bit sometimes.

[Arasha]

I think a little bit goes a long way.

[Shane]

It does, but just that's why they need to use it the most.

[Chance]

Tiny beat.

[Shane]

Like a tiny bit. I love truffles. So sorry. So, are we ready?

[Arasha]

Yes. Active listening. Caps on.

[Shane]

This comes from September of 2025. I gave an Escort 3 Bitcoin in 2013, and I still obsessively check her wallet address. I don't know much about bitcoin, so I'm guessing. I'm guessing you're able to look at other people's app. Like in the apps you can see what other people's. Oh, I don't know. We'll get into it.

[Arasha]

Seems dangerous.

[Shane]

Okay, this is probably weird, but I need to get it off my chest. Back in 2013, I paid an escort with three Bitcoin. It was worth maybe $300 total at the time, so it seemed like a reasonable transaction. Here's the messed up part. I still check that bitcoin address regularly. Have been for 11 years now. Those bitcoin just sat there untouched all this time. She probably had no idea what they were or how to access them. Recently, I noticed movement on the address. She's been transferring small amounts to Coinbase. Probably finally figured out how to cash them out. Do you know what three Bitcoin is worth today? Around $350,000. I've watched that address occasionally over the years, wondering if she knew what she was sitting on. Part of me hoped she'd forgotten about them entirely so I wouldn't have to think about the money. But now she's cashing out and I can't stop checking the Blockchain Explorer. It's like watching someone win the lottery with money that used to be mine. The worst part is I have zero bitcoin now. Spent it all back as play money and never even tracked any of it properly. Back then, I didn't care about taxes or records. But now when I look at what I let slip away, I realize how badly I handled the whole thing. She probably doesn't even remember me, but she's about to be 350k richer because of a transaction I made over a decade ago. I know this is unhealthy, but I can't stop tracking the address. It's become this weird obsession with what could have been. The thought I could have had so much more money, had I not spent it all on futile things. I. Although I have made some progress in that regard. These days, I keep better track of everything because I don't want the same kind of regret to sneak up on me again. Using proper tools like awaken tax makes it less of a headache because it pulls in my wallets and exchanges automatically. This becomes an ad. Yeah.

[Chance]

Whoa, whoa.

[Shane]

It's not about fixing the past, but at least I don't have to obsessively check some old address to remind myself what I lost. Anyone else have financial decisions from their past that they can't stop thinking about? This is eating at me, and I don't know how to let it go.

[Chance]

Okay, but it's like, not your money anymore.

[Shane]

It's not your money. It was a gamble, which is what bitcoin is. It could have been worth nothing by nowadays. It happens to be worth $350,000.

[Chance]

And it's also a transaction. It's like it took 10 years, but it's like you paid. It's no longer yours, it's theirs. Like, whatever they did with that $300, maybe they bought a bond. Or like, it's the same thing.

[Shane]

He seems to be aware that, like, yes, he knows what actually happened. But I know of many stories, some from people I know and most I read online of people who had bitcoin and then either got rid of it back in the day or spent on dumb things or lost it. There's that famous one where that guy had a hard drive with a ton of bitcoin and he threw it away and he knew the dump that it was put in and. And he spent like a million dollars excavating this dump to try to find it, and they never found it. And it's just like, oh, this hard drive has millions upon millions of dollars in it.

[Arasha]

Heartbreaking.

[Chance]

You can have bitcoin on a hard drive.

[Shane]

I'm not an expert on bitcoin, but it's kind of just data. I don't understand it. I'm not going to pretend like I do.

[Arasha]

Right?

[Shane]

But it's stuff that's worth something.

[Chance]

Hey, I want to see a bitcoin heist. Honestly, I kinda wanna see.

[Shane]

I'll be honest with you. It's probably happening all the time because it's untracked, it's not governed. That's why it's kind of worth something.

[Chance]

And you know what? Now I wanna see. Remember that episode of Fairly Oddparents where they go onto the Internet or maybe they go into tv.

[Arasha]

They go into tv, they Go into a video game.

[Chance]

They go into tv.

[Martha Stewart]

Is that it?

[Chance]

They go into TV and they're, like, channel surfing and shit. I wanna see digital heist. People go into the digital world and have to, like, Tron it up.

[Shane]

That's what that new Tron movie should have been about.

[Arasha]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Chance]

At that point, literally what it should've or.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Arasha]

Hit coin.

[Shane]

That's good. Hit coin. That's movie. Let's write it.

[Arasha]

Let's write it.

[Chance]

Let's make it the Italian hit job coin. Wait. Hit coin.

[Martha Stewart]

No.

[Arasha]

Well, no, no. But it definitely just sounds like that's the risk you make when you do a transaction of any kind. If you give somebody the shoes that you have on, like, later on, they might be worth more. And it's like, yeah, you're gonna regret that, but you never could have known.

[Shane]

Yeah. I think everybody has some version of this in life, and it's painful to, like, see and know.

[Arasha]

Right.

[Shane]

But hope it was worth it. That's how things work.

[Chance]

I'm glad she's cashing it out now.

[Shane]

Hell, yeah. Good for her. Yeah. Nice. Cause that was also risky of her back in the day to be like, I'll accept this as payment.

[Arasha]

Yeah, this thing.

[Chance]

That's true.

[Shane]

Cause he probably paid her thinking, like, this is probably not gonna be worth as much as $300.

[Chance]

That's fucked. Like, maybe.

[Shane]

I don't know. But they agreed to it.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

But it worked out in her favor. Wow.

[Chance]

She knew for her.

[Shane]

She knew she was a bitcoin. All right, Some comments. Just tell people that once you had a $350,000 escort and call it a day. Someone said, you didn't give her $350,000. You gave her $300. You could have easily just bought more bitcoin for $300 back then. Even if you had, you never would have held it this long, though. That's true. Someone said, I have a friend who is an aging stripper and is struggling right now trying to get out of the business. And you can't strip forever. It's a young person's game. So she's trying to transition into makeup school and cosmetology, but it's a real struggle. I have to imagine that for sex workers, it's the same deal. I know you are full of regret, but at the same time, know that you are probably helping someone transition into the next part of their life in an easier way. I was gonna make a joke about old strippers.

[Chance]

It was less of a joke. Less of a joke. More like Old guys and old girls want old people dancing for them too. Why are we so ageist?

[Shane]

It's true.

[Chance]

Yeah, like an old folks home and you have like old strippers.

[Arasha]

Wait, yeah, you drive past like a.

[Shane]

Retirement home, but there's tons of lights and you're like, is this a strip club?

[Chance]

Yeah, I like it. I kind of dig it.

[Arasha]

But I think you like the minimum to get in has to be like 60, 65, you know, just in case like young people want to get in on that.

[Chance]

Yeah, not me.

[Shane]

Can't have that. Can't have that.

[Chance]

But like, yeah, if a 50 year old wants to go hang out with like 70 year olds, let him go hang out with 70 year olds.

[Arasha]

50 feels more reasonable. I just feel like we should put a cap on it so like young people can't get in there.

[Chance]

So like it's like 18 plus, but then instead it's like 68.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Chance]

Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Shane]

We'll figure out the logistics of old people still.

[Martha Stewart]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Chance]

Who are we keeping out and who are we keeping in?

[Arasha]

Who's allowed to go and under can't.

[Shane]

Go, so you're not allowed. But I am.

[Chance]

I'm not allowed either.

[Shane]

Sorry, I can't get in. Come on in.

[Chance]

No, they're like, you're working tonight. I didn't know you had a shift.

[Shane]

I'm like, fuck.

[Arasha]

What are you doing out of your bed, Chance?

[Shane]

Bingo.

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[Chance]

Oh God.

[Shane]

I wanted to show him my world, but not really let him in. The thing is, I don't even think he's that bad looking. He just has a weird beard, yellow smoker teeth and an awkward body shape that doesn't do him any favors. Still, I'm genuinely attracted to him. I wouldn't be as intimate with him if I wasn't. The sex is amazing. I just also know he's not on the same level of attractive that people expect when they look at me. For context, I'm five' three, skinny yet curvy. I have a big ass, flat stomach, 34 DD chest. I have white straight teeth, clear skin, done hair, perfect makeup. I look good in tight dresses.

[Chance]

This is crazy.

[Shane]

I see laser vision. I can fly. I take pride in that. I work hard to keep myself put together because my world requires it. I'm in pr. I'm in a regionally and nationally recognized sorority, specifically my chapter for how Amazing we are. My life revolves around image, presentation, perception. So yeah, when I'm standing next to someone who doesn't fit that image, the disconnect feels huge. He's short, five eight, thin, smells like cigarettes, and has that slightly offbeat look that makes people stare a second too long. Godd, bro.

[Arasha]

Does she like this person?

[Shane]

She said the sex is amazing. She does not.

[Chance]

She does not.

[Shane]

I know I'm more conventionally attractive than him. And I know people who would look at us and think, why him? I can't bring him to the galas I attend or with me to the conventions where I win awards. I'd be taller than him in heels and people would be like, what the fuck? He just can't be the man on my arm because he doesn't fit the role. That's why I don't tell people about him. I never call him my boyfriend. He's always just a guy. I talk to him. No one truly knows how emotionally connected we are. Everyone in his life knows me. They know he loves me and would do anything for me. His family, his friends, they all root for us. But on my end, if someone asks if I'm seeing anyone, I say I'm single. I act like he doesn't exist, and yet he does. He's fun, gentle, and endlessly loving. He's my boyfriend, even if no one knows it. When one of my coworkers accidentally saw us, she went back and told everyone how short and chopped he looked. He asked why I'd waste my time on a bartender when I have so much going for me. She also said she couldn't believe I'd let someone like that defile me. I laughed it off, but it hit harder than I wanted to admit. The truth is, I've spent years mastering how to be seen. I know exactly how to dress, smile, and move through rooms where being admired is currency. He's not built for that world. And somehow he's also the only person who's ever really seen me. I don't know how to make those two versions of my life exist at once. The one the world applauds and the one that's actually real. I hate that I hide him. And I hate that I care this much about what people think. But I do, and it's breaking my heart. Okay. Damn. Number one. Damn.

[Chance]

Okay, got that out of the way. Thank you.

[Shane]

I'm trying to separate. There's the part of me that's hearing this. I'm like, this is awful. You're awful. I'm also like, this is an anonymous post where you're confessing that you know this is awful. I think she's reconciling with. Oh, there's an awful part of my brain, and I'm hating it.

[Chance]

What's the awful part of her brain?

[Shane]

That she loves this guy. And, like, she feels the attraction, but she cares more about society's view of her, I think. I think, Than her actual feelings.

[Arasha]

Yeah, I think that's just the latter. Like, just the. Just the second part of what you said, I think, is the awful thing in her brain that she needs to remove, which is the idea of what other people think. I think that is what's ultimately stopping her, because she's saying, the sex is amazing. She is attracted to him. It's that thing that's like, would you rather be with the person that you find super, super attractive but the world thinks is unattractive? Or the other way around? And she, I think, would rather the opposite. She wants the world to see her with this conventionally attractive, large, masculine man. And she. And even if she was, like, unhappy, she would be like, well, at least appearance wise, we look as if we are prim and proper. And that's what she cares more about.

[Chance]

It also feels a part of me feels like. Honestly, it feels like she's projecting a little bit. She doesn't know what other people think of him. It sounds like what she thinks of him. What she's thinking. Other people. It's her own. Has she asked people what they think he looks like?

[Shane]

Her one friend saw him and said, he's short and chopped.

[Chance]

Yeah, short and chopped. That's true, that's true.

[Shane]

And she said, I can't believe you'd let someone like that defile you. That's true, that's true.

[Arasha]

But it hit home.

[Chance]

But it's like it hit her own insecurities of what she's thinking. Everyone is thinking. What she's putting on everyone else totally was confirmation bias. It's exactly what she wanted to hear. She's like, oh, so they do think my worst fear, which is, he's not attractive enough.

[Shane]

She's the part of her brain that's viewing a partner as an accessory. Yeah.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

She's like, oh, this is just an accessory. It's like, this is you. You're only thinking about yourself.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

She seems to be kind of admitting that.

[Arasha]

Yeah, I think so. But I wonder what would happen if all the people in her life were like, oh, my gosh, he's so attractive. He's so great for you. Would that flip something in her head? Or would she be like, they're lying to me and not accept it? On a human level? It sounds like they chemically connect. It sounds like that part isn't what she can control, but she's observing and analyzing it. She's zooming out and looking at herself with this guy and being like, this doesn't fit. It doesn't look right. I need somebody else, somebody different. Her priorities, I think, are just off. And she cares too much about other people and what they might think about her relationship.

[Shane]

And her network sounds awful, right? What her friend said immediately is so horrendous. If she woke up tomorrow and she didn't look as perfect as she looks, I'm like, yeah, it sounds like your entire friend group would abandon you in a second. It doesn't sound like he would. I don't think he cares. Sounds like he truly loves you, but your network doesn't.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

They view you as an accessory, too.

[Arasha]

And unfortunately, she values that. The way that she speaks about her extracurricular is like her sorority. Like, she has value in it being nationally recognized. She has value in her having perfect makeup. Like, I think those are the things that she's putting on a pedestal. But when I hear that she is describing herself as single and not even calling her boyfriend her boyfriend, it doesn't seem like a badge that she's proud to wear. She doesn't actually love this person.

[Shane]

Right.

[Arasha]

Because if you love them, then you'd want to flaunt them. You'd want to be like, I'm so happy in the position that I'm in. She's hiding that.

[Chance]

Well, I was gonna say, the way that she talked about herself, I think she has a lot of pride and.

[Shane]

A lot of self love and a.

[Chance]

Lot of a sense of accomplishment and drive. And the way that she talked about him, it was just like, I guess he's kind of attractive. I think I know he loves me.

[Shane]

It's hard to know from her description. Cause she doesn't give us much besides his appearance.

[Chance]

Exactly.

[Shane]

And just being like, I don't like his appearance. It's like she does talk about him being like he loves her and cherishes her. It sounds almost like what she wants is like, oh, but the love and cherishing isn't as important to me as like the shallow stuff or just like that's a basis. True.

[Chance]

Right.

[Arasha]

But there's nothing that she's able to pull about him. There's no information that we got of. Oh, and he's such a. He's great with his family. Oh, I love the way that he.

[Chance]

Jokes, touches me, sends me gifts, the way he spends time with me.

[Arasha]

There's no specificity in like. It just doesn't sound like the way you write about somebody that. That you love.

[Chance]

It just sounds like she's comfortable.

[Shane]

If this was a friend of mine and she was saying this, and I'd be like, if you really love this guy, he deserves better than this.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Whether you love him or not, you're not really loving him. You're treating him so awfully. To hide someone like that is so cruel. If he knew this, if someone was.

[Chance]

Embarrassed to be with me or embarrassed to see me out or embarrassed to have me in front of their friends, I would not want to be with that person. I would at least deserve to know you felt that way.

[Martha Stewart]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And you add the layer, like, this is long distance. There's a sacrifice being made here of he's somewhere else committing to her. And it's just like, if he don't do this to him.

[Arasha]

It's a disservice to him. Let him go to him. Yeah. And also, I mean, the qualities in which she describes as. Well, it seems like it's the connotation that she's placing on it. Right. She says stuff like his height, his body type and stuff, which another. Another person could appreciate and love.

[Shane]

Yeah, man.

[Arasha]

Like, they could be like, oh my God, that's the perfect type for me. Oh my God, that's the body type that's flattering next to me. Like, you're robbing him of the opportunity of finding his perfect match.

[Shane]

Yeah, absolutely. I think it's sad. I mean, she's young, so hopefully it's time to like, grow out of it.

[Chance]

How old is she?

[Shane]

She's 21, but it's.

[Chance]

Oh, they're both so young.

[Shane]

They're both so young. But it's just sad that like. And you see it a lot in LA of just like they're viewing themselves as like, ranking themselves based on their appearance. Just like, you can let that go.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And you'll feel so much better the more you're able to let that go. She's imprisoning herself in this shallow world.

[Arasha]

And look, I get it, right? Like it's college, Right. It seems like it's the university of, you know, looking to your friends and being like, how do you perceive me? And am I cool? Am I nice? Am I this kind of person? So I think she's just placing a lot of value on her status right now.

[Shane]

Of course.

[Arasha]

So she's looking at it rather than just being present and being in it.

[Shane]

Yeah. I respect her honesty. I mean, obviously it's an anonymous confession, but like, it's a valuable thing to like, say this all out loudly and transparently because can't pretend like society doesn't every day push this on all of us. Right. Like that's. We're fed this every day. And so she's. Yeah, she's struggling with that. But I think she needs to let that guy go. Cause this is awful.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Comments. Someone said, honestly, let him go and find someone that actually appreciates him and loves him for who he is and wants to show him off to the world because that's what people deserve. OP left a comment saying, I showed him around my campus job cause it's one of the coolest buildings. And every single last one of my co workers gave me that. Are you sure? Look, one called him a troll, the other called him an ugly rat. And another said, a school shooter on heroin now as ugly As I may be, aside from the comments, those were unprovoked statements from people, my co workers. And it low key did hurt because I do really love being with him. It's hard to shake comments when it's being thrown in your face. And rudely at that. There are many more things that were said, but I feel like those really stuck out to me. Cause those were odd things to say when I came back to work and asked who's on the rotation? And then get a response then, how was your weekend with your ugly rat? Like, that's a crazy thing to say to anyone about anyone. Like, I'm not delusional on this part. That was plain rude. But I digress.

[Chance]

Okay.

[Shane]

Is this campus in hell?

[Chance]

I also need to know what she is saying. I need to know what she's saying because there is no way that three different people would say that about like, it does seem like hell yeah. So I need to know what she is saying about her boyfriend. What she has said in the past that she's bringing them in and they feel comfortable enough to say this.

[Arasha]

Truly.

[Rocket Money Advertiser 2]

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[Arasha]

What's precious?

[Chance]

Yes.

[Arasha]

Like, oh, guys, like, I'm bringing my boyfriend around. Like, he is like, you know, not very attractive. So like, when you see me with.

[Chance]

Him, like, she's setting him up for failure.

[Arasha]

Right. As opposed to like, I just feel like you're right. Like, who would genuinely say that?

[Chance]

No.

[Arasha]

If you brought your partner with no other words said before, even if they were like, not as attractive as you in somebody's eyes, I don't think your co worker would say something like, oh, who's this ugly rat?

[Chance]

People are not that malicious. And no, there has to be. I believe in the good of humanity.

[Shane]

I get that there's something suspicious of. Just like all of these people just like said the worst thing.

[Chance]

Troll and rat and heroin shooter. No way.

[Arasha]

Unless you're literally bringing a rat to the campus. Like, I don't think anybody would speak up and say their truth.

[Chance]

It feels like she was dreading him coming and wanted to put out feelers in the warning. Being like, oh, he's kind of. He's just like. I'm like, yeah. And I've had this experience before where people, I mean, especially in college people are like, my boyfriend's coming in town. He's so annoying. Like, we're doing long distance. Like, they're setting them up for failure. It's like, I'm not gonna be with them forever. Like, it's just like right now or this happens all the time. The Breakup trip. They come so they can break up with each other in person, and then they leave. Or even that long distance that happens. It's like you go to their city, and then they break up with you and send you home.

[Shane]

And you were kind of saying this earlier, like, she's trying to find every excuse to be like, I'm gonna break up with this guy. It's just like, just break up with him.

[Arasha]

And she's putting up, like, a defense as well. She's like, before you all judge me, I need to protect you and judge myself and my boyfriend first. So then all of you can't come up with any of these crazy things. And no one was gonna say anything, but she is feeling all of these things, and she's bringing them out. And before anyone else can say it, she's calling him an ugly rat and a troll. Shooter on heroin is crazy.

[Chance]

Word.

[Shane]

Criminal.

[Rocket Money Advertiser]

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[Shane]

That is awful. Wow. Well, there's no update or anything, but sounds like a miserable mindset to be in.

[Chance]

Awful.

[Shane]

I can't imagine.

[Arasha]

And I'm sure this man's is not that beat.

[Shane]

I'm sure if we saw him, we'd be like, that's a normal man, right? Like, what is going on here?

[Chance]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Chance]

So she's the asshole, I guess.

[Shane]

Yeah. So she sucks. And they also say 5, 8, 5, 7. They say that's the best height. In general. They say that.

[Arasha]

See, that was what I was saying.

[Shane]

And they did mention that, so. And he smokes cigarettes, which means he's cool as fuck.

[Arasha]

True, True.

[Shane]

Five, eight guys smoking cigarettes.

[Arasha]

Mm. And yellow teeth. You know he's been using them.

[Shane]

Yeah, he's been using them.

[Arasha]

It's good.

[Shane]

And he uses those.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

I think no matter who she ends up dating or marrying or whatever, she's gonna struggle for the rest of her life if she doesn't get out of this headspace. Cause people are gonna have things to say at some point, or you're gonna worry about what people are thinking.

[Arasha]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

At any point, if you're letting that govern you, you're screwed.

[Arasha]

She's gonna need that approval with any partner.

[Shane]

All right, moving on. Next one comes from True off my chest. December of 2021. My boss just asked me not to wear my normal pants to work, and I've never been angrier. What? I wear normal. Our dress code is business casual, and I've gotten myself sized by a reputable tailor. All my slacks and chinos are from normal brands you'd find at Macy's and are normal, relaxed Fit. However, yesterday my boss called me into her office and told me I would no longer be allowed to wear the pants I normally wear to the office and would have to wear something less revealing. Apparently, my bulge is inappropriate for the workplace. I have a normal sized penis. I actually fucking measured it to make sure I wasn't crazy. And I'm pretty close to the US Average. Would a woman with large breasts be told she can't wear anything but baggy clothes? Would she be told by her boss that she must wear nothing but restrictive sports bras to work? I doubt it. Especially in my workplace where women two seats down from me wear far more provocative clothing than my damn slacks. I asked her, what should I wear instead? These are my size. And she said, just go buy something looser or get a bigger size. I'm not rebuying my entire collection of work pants. Go ahead and report me to hr. Let's see them try to fire me for having too much dick.

[Chance]

That's awesome.

[Shane]

Edit. People have been asking to see my pants.

[Chance]

Here's the exact pants. I need to see a picture of them.

[Shane]

Here's the exact pants I wore on the day of the incident. Note that my member is sitting to the right of the zipper.

[Rocket Money Advertiser 2]

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[Shane]

Relative to the viewer. Show us the dick. You can't see anything. Pants. That's a.

[Chance]

Is that his hog?

[Shane]

I don't know.

[Arasha]

On the right. On the right.

[Chance]

Oh, he said his. I can't see his dick.

[Shane]

You can't see his dick? I thought that was it.

[Chance]

I thought that was it. I was like, holy shit.

[Arasha]

It's this thing, this invo.

[Shane]

I don't think that also could be just a crease or that.

[Chance]

I can't even tell, bro.

[Shane]

I'm honest. This is a photo of just any man wearing pants.

[Arasha]

Wait, let me get another look at it. Actually.

[Chance]

Zoom in.

[Arasha]

I'm thinking that's normal chinos.

[Chance]

What if that.

[Shane]

I don't think it is. I'm going to be honest, I don't think it is. No way.

[Chance]

They've lost their mind.

[Arasha]

Okay. I guess a lot of things could be the dick here. And maybe that's the fact that we.

[Shane]

Can'T definitively see the bulge means there's nothing to worry about here.

[Arasha]

This poor man had to take this lower body shot and post it on.

[Shane]

Reddit of his tapered chinos.

[Arasha]

Right?

[Chance]

Well, that's the most normal picture of.

[Shane]

Pants I've ever seen. Yeah, it is one of the most normal things.

[Arasha]

It is normal.

[Chance]

It's like if you were like, it's a Halloween costume of the onward guy.

[Shane]

You're like, yeah, it's the pants. Imagine if the dad from onward had a huge bowl. Just like, dad, dad, dad, noise, dad. That's crazy.

[Arasha]

Onward and upward.

[Shane]

That's good. He goes on this rant at one point about like, would a woman with large breasts be told she can't wear anything? I'm like, I think you have. I think, unfortunately, yeah, they will take.

[Arasha]

Us a little bit there.

[Rocket Money Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Arasha]

I think when he's kind of started to compare to other people, I think lots of people maybe experience this kind of, you know, sort of dress code situation. I do think he's in the right in that. Those pants seem fine to me.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Arasha]

He's a shower, you know, what can he say? It seems like people are probably just trying to look for a problem there.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Arasha]

Cause that's literally what I think we were doing was we were searching. And it's not obvious. It's not clear upon first glance. You're not like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And therefore, I just feel like that is enough to dismiss it.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Chance]

I could see a NARB situation where he's getting a no apparent reason boner and people like, he doesn't even know it. He doesn't even know it. And it's like around the office and the lady's like, oh, he's got fucking. Fucking boner again. And it's like hard in his hands. So then when he goes to the office, then he doesn't have a boner anymore.

[Arasha]

Yeah, true. Is there a photo with the boner?

[Chance]

Is there a photo with the boner?

[Shane]

No, there's not. No. I think this guy's just being treated unfairly. If everything that he's saying is true, I think this is really unfair. Shane's like, yeah, there's a picture with the boner.

[Chance]

He goes to his own pictures.

[Arasha]

We're like, what do you guys think about this one? Where's the pants?

[Shane]

Oh, he has a full on dick pic here.

[Arasha]

That could be the reason. Like, it could be that, like during the day.

[Shane]

I don't think so. I think the boss would bring that up. Yeah.

[Chance]

Okay.

[Shane]

She's asking him to change his entire wardrobe.

[Arasha]

Sure, sure, sure.

[Chance]

That is crazy, Todd.

[Shane]

Yeah. She's saying he needs to wear different pants. He's wearing completely normal pants. No, this is as unfair as when bosses do this to women.

[Rocket Money Advertiser 2]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And he's dealing with the same situation. Comments. I would be concerned that someone stared at my crotch enough to notice that he said, I am too. I am in a long term relationship and planning to propose early next year. So I can't afford financial or emotional turbulence right now. She didn't say who exactly brought this concern to her, so as far as I know, it could have been anyone in the office. Someone said, you need to complain to HR and ask her why she's staring at your crotch. Send an email so it's documented. Maybe even include this picture and the fact that they're tailored specifically to your professional fit. That's ridiculous. Someone said big breasted woman here. I have absolutely been told to wear different clothing and no, I was not showing cleavage. They just stand out. However, I totally back you. That is some absolutely ridiculous shit. If anything, you should go to hr. I agree with that. I think, I mean my interpretation. I'm like, this feels like harassment.

[Arasha]

Yeah, and he got the pants tailored. It's not like he was like guessing and went too tight. Like those are supposed to fit his body.

[Shane]

Yeah, absolutely.

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[Arasha]

What?

[Shane]

Okay. What?

[Arasha]

They want to shop together?

[Shane]

Good lord. Suddenly, the she wants to bang you theories seemed less crazy. I backed up the emails to a personal account and sent everything to hr. Less than two hours later, I received a phone call asking me to come to HR immediately and drop my work unless it was. I complied. I was told they were taking this matter very seriously and that I should take the rest of the day off. I came back to work today and boss is gone. I was told right before lunch that she had been placed on administrative leave pending a full investigation and that I shouldn't worry. It's against company policy to engage in any form of professional retaliation. I sit here now like a king on a porcelain throne, telling you about my victory during my post lunch dump. Bye bye, boss lady. All right, man.

[Martha Stewart]

Don't.

[Chance]

Now I feel.

[Shane]

Now I feel harassed.

[Arasha]

You had us.

[Shane]

Whoa. She's like, yeah, and I need to supervise your shopping. It's like, all right. You went to that.

[Arasha]

You have a crush on this man?

[Shane]

Yeah. Damn.

[Chance]

What?

[Shane]

Wow.

[Chance]

I need to supervise your shopping is unbelievable.

[Shane]

She put that in writing? Yeah, she wrote it out.

[Arasha]

No, that's. And that's so stupid.

[Chance]

God damn.

[Arasha]

That's so dumb.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Arasha]

Like, she thinks he has no. I mean, he played his cards right by not being like, I lawyered up and I know the truth and whatever and just being like, hey, just want to make sure I have all of this right. Is this what happened? So that she could. In paper writing, we could have. Yes, that is what I said.

[Shane]

Yeah. Damn. I mean, I'm glad for him that she was dumb and did that, because if she didn't, I wonder, like, if she had not responded to his emails that way or responded being like, I didn't say that. Like, he would be stuck. But, hey, happy for him that this all worked out and good on him for doing what he did.

[Arasha]

I mean, I predict that she would have been persistent, though, in other ways. Even if she were to clean up her language on email, I think she would have had another meeting and been like, hey, we need to still fix this problem, and there would have been more discourse there.

[Shane]

Yeah. But, oh, if she's able. If she's moving the way she's moving. Yeah, she's gonna keep doing this to him or eventually do it to someone else if she hasn't already done it to someone else before.

[Arasha]

Right.

[Shane]

She's abusing her power.

[Arasha]

I'm just trying to figure out what her, like, end game was like. She's like, oh, if I tell him to change his pants, he'll be into me. Like, was the plan always to go shopping?

[Shane]

Maybe it's maybe. Maybe in her mind, I don't know. I have no actually idea, but I'm just throwing out thoughts. Is like, maybe just by mentioning his bulge, she thought like, oh, I'm noticing this. You need to change because of this. And he's like, he fortunately interpreted just like, literally. And he's like, wait, I have a normal sized penis. Whatever. Maybe in her head she's like, saying it as a compliment.

[Arasha]

He'll see your big penis.

[Shane]

Yeah, he'll be into this.

[Chance]

But also, it also could be a power play.

[Shane]

It probably is that. Just controlling him. And she gets off on that.

[Arasha]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

I don't actually know.

[Arasha]

Right.

[Shane]

Doesn't matter. She's getting fired.

[Arasha]

She's gone.

[Shane]

Hopefully administrative leave.

[Arasha]

At least she's gone now.

[Shane]

But he's a king. And he took a dump. He's taking a dump.

[Arasha]

That was my favorite part.

[Shane]

Not mine. All right, next story. This is a confession that comes from September of 2025. I lied to my pick me friend and she got a tattoo based off of it.

[Arasha]

Ooh, a pick me friend.

[Chance]

I'm excited.

[Shane]

It'S been about two years since this happened, but I just got confirmation from a friend who attended her tattoo appointment that it was because of what I said. The Backstory I A 25 year old woman was introduced to Peggy, a 25 year old woman, through a mutual friend. She had recently moved into a friend's neighboring apartment unit and was quickly introduced to our friend group. Almost immediately I could tell we weren't going to get along based off of some backhanded compliments that were given, but I decided that it was too quick to judge her fairly and invited her to a game night that a friend and I were hosting. Huge Mistake Game one Sardines During a drunken game of Sardines in the Dark, Peggy faked a fall and pushed my head into a shelf. How do I know she faked it? Because she literally told me in front of everyone and laughed about it saying I found him first. That's why I pushed you. Game 2 King's Cup Peggy called me out during the never have I ever portion for having gone through a divorce. Talking about it normally would have bothered me since everyone who was there already knew about it and were really supportive during that time, but it was the fact that she was trying to single me out and shame me for it. Throughout the rest of the night this kind of behavior continued and by the end I was thoroughly convinced she had some sort of vendetta against me. Finding out what, or in my case who it was took almost no time at all. One of our friends who we'll call Mark was in attendance that first night. Mark, 28 year old man, is a tall, kind, funny and generally attractive guy. Essentially he's catnip for her type. At this time we were pretty close friends and Peggy did not like that. For the next six months, anytime he was around, I had to deal with the most ridiculous, awkward and petty attempts of her trying to single me out or embarrass me. Now here's where the tattoo comes into play. I'd been planning on getting a dragon tattoo for over a year. I am fully aware that dragons are a common and trending tattoo, but I wanted it anyway because it was special to me and my mom. I had even worked with my tattoo artist on incorporating her favorite flowers into the piece and figuring out what kind of style. Other Details I wanted About a month before my appointment, Peggy heard a friend and I talking about the tattoo and started asking questions. I swear I could see the moment the light bulb went off in her head because she grew the biggest shit eating grin I'VE ever seen. My light bulb moment happened shortly after when she asked where and what kind of dragon tattoo I wanted to get. I lied. I told her about how much I loved the movie Spirited Away, because I do. It's a banger, and went on a tangent about how I grew up on that movie, how my dad showed it to me, and that it'd be cool if he Haku was wrapped around my arm or something. Peggy had never seen this movie before, so I encouraged her to check it out and ended the conversation there. Now, considering she had never seen it before, I didn't think she'd actually do it, but read it. She did it. And it wasn't just a tiny, cutesy little thing either. She committed to my exact description. The thing is freaking huge. When she showed it to me two weeks later, I was in shock.

[Chance]

Two weeks.

[Shane]

Two weeks later, I was in shock. And she probably thought I was upset for taking something from me. But I went home that night and switched between feeling awful for lying to her and laughing for how utterly unbelievable she was for doing it. Two years later and I'm still doing that. I had confessed to a friend recently about my lie, and that's when she told me she went to the tattoo appointment with Peggy that day, and word for word, Peggy had said, she's going to be so upset. This is like the exact tattoo she wanted.

[Arasha]

Okay. What the hell? Okay. All right, all right.

[Shane]

We have an update.

[Chance]

Oh, ready?

[Shane]

Holy fuck. I showed this post to the friend who went with her to the appointment, and she was kind enough to supply a. A picture of the tattoo in progress. The crazy thing is, she did this to her, too, with a tattoo commemorating her favorite music artist. From her quote, I initially wanted the tattoo because he's literally my favorite artist. And so I sent my artist, the one you met, my reference photo, and she said she wanted to come because she was thinking about getting one too. So we got there and he started doing my stencil and stuff. And when she saw, she said, oh, my gosh, that's so cute. It'd be so cool if we got matching tattoos. I, being excited and at this point, having no issues with her whatsoever, was like, yeah, girl, it's your body. So I just was like, okay, and let it happen. I guess it's a memento for her. She got the exact same thing and exact same placement, too. Look at how big this tattoo is.

[Chance]

Oh, my God.

[Arasha]

That is a whole sleeve. That's an entire arm.

[Shane]

So she went. So the second that. The second op was like oh yeah. I wanna get the Spirited Away dragon tattooed on my arm. Here's how I wanna have it done. This girl was like, I'm gonna go do that right now.

[Arasha]

Which I don't even know if that's a pick me friend as much as it just kinda sounds like a bully.

[Shane]

I'm so confused. Cause I'm like, are you bullying yourself here? Like you're getting tattoos, like you're doing all this stuff.

[Arasha]

But her motivation is to upset this other person. And it's like, so you're willing to get a permanent tattoo on your entire arm because you think that it's going to really upset another person.

[Chance]

Okay, so remember what I said when I believe in the goodness of people earlier in that last story. Yeah. I'm remembering how many people there are.

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[Shane]

And unfortunately there's a lot of people.

[Chance]

There's a lot of people.

[Arasha]

Yeah. Most are good.

[Chance]

And even that I'm like, oh God. It's like it's good, bad, whatever, the gray. There's so many people who just operate on such a different wavelength that I'm like, I kind of know this person. Right. I think I've met this person. And it's like, no. Like as soon as someone has an idea, they're like, that's mine now. That's my idea. I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna do it.

[Arasha]

Me, Me.

[Chance]

I'm like, well, yeah. Cause you don't have original thoughts and you can't make things by yourself. You need other people to do it for you.

[Arasha]

That comment that she made, I think is just really like messing with me.

[Shane]

She's gonna be so pissed.

[Arasha]

She's gonna be so pissed. Cause it's like at first, you know, especially with the update with the other story of like, oh, we should do matching tattoos. That gives more of like somebody who is maybe not as strong with their sense of self and is kind of trying to find a place within their personality and maybe kind of borrowing or taking other people's desires, like their favorite movie, their favorite musician. Like, why would you want those tattooed on your body?

[Shane]

I think this reminds me of the people who are like bringing other people down. Makes them feel good. Cause they feel so down. Yeah. It's just like stealing stuff, like maybe.

[Arasha]

Making them feel less special and being like, you know, I will also have this so that you can't be possibly better than me.

[Shane]

Just. Yeah. Taking away things from other people is the best thing they can do for themselves.

[Arasha]

Thanks for that.

[Chance]

But it's such a self own.

[Shane]

I don't know. I'm like, you got a huge tattoo on your arm and you're like, ha, ha, owned. I'm like, is this a sketch?

[Arasha]

Right?

[Shane]

This feels like it's always sunny episode.

[Arasha]

You're banking on them being more miserable about it than you.

[Shane]

And you. That's a permanent thing you just did. And a lot. That's a lot of money. That's definitely over a thousand bucks and a lot of time. And you have that forever. People are gonna be 20 years from then and be able to be like, oh, I like that tattoo. It's like, yeah, I wanted to piss someone off.

[Arasha]

Right. I want to go back too, to the game night. Cause the other example I think that stood out to me was with. In King's cup when they were playing Never have I Ever. And it sounds like Peggy had something to say. Like, oh, never have I ever been divorced. And it sounds like she maybe was the only one to put her finger down. And that also feels directly too.

[Shane]

That's the first meeting.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

That's just a jealous person.

[Arasha]

I think so. Just somebody wants to call out another person's flaws or like.

[Chance]

It kind of reminds me of Peter from Heroes, how he takes other people's power. Or the spirit from the last Airbender that takes people's faces. Yeah. What's it called?

[Shane]

The face sealer KO the face stealer. You know what? I actually think this woman is just the face stealer.

[Chance]

I mean, it really is. It's like you have no face of your own. You have to take everyone else's to create a personality. Yeah.

[Shane]

I mean, the best case scenario is like, she goes to therapy or like has a big reconciliation and goes, oh, wow, I'm awful. I'm being a horrible person. And then she just has that tattoo forever.

[Arasha]

Right.

[Chance]

Yeah.

[Shane]

That's a lot to get removed.

[Arasha]

I don't think she was thinking ahead in any of these decisions. A lot of this thought going on. No, it sounds like this is how I feel right now. And this is going to maybe make me a little bit happy.

[Shane]

This is really. It's permanent. This is some very like, look, she's awful. I'm like. But I'm curious as to why, what her motivations deep down. Cause this feels like she got stuck somewhere as like a five year old. Cause this is stuff like five year olds do. Right. When it's like, oh, you have that toy. I want that toy.

[Arasha]

Just copycat it.

[Shane]

Oh, now that you have that toy, I want that toy. She is stuck in that line of thinking as a 25 year old.

[Arasha]

Right, right.

[Shane]

Cause I'm like, it's so. It's perplexing, this type of like thinking that she's doing.

[Arasha]

You're right. You're right. I think, I mean, you know, who's to say? But we can maybe predict that somewhere along the line she became really lost with her own identity. And now she's kind of going around taking from other people's and finding some sense of self esteem in that or like pleasure in just making other people feel a little more uneasy maybe like she is.

[Shane]

Yeah. I just want to see how far people could go with it. Just being like, oh, what are you guys up to this weekend? Like, oh, I'm just gonna strap meat to myself and go to a.

[Chance]

A swamp and she might.

[Shane]

An alligator swamp. She's like, I'm gonna actually, I'm gonna do that. Yeah, it's like great. It's like, oh yeah, there's a bear cave over there. I'm gonna, you know, go walk into it.

[Arasha]

Totally.

[Shane]

Yeah. See what she would do.

[Arasha]

Right.

[Shane]

Be really funny. I forgot to read the comments. God damn. That's some dedication. Just to get on your nerves. Lmao. Or maybe she was just that desperate to be you. Either way, depending on the execution, Spirited Away, especially Haku, is a pretty good choice for a tattoo. Cause the MMA's a classic and the dragon's design can be pretty cool. So I guess it's not too bad for her. Lol. Someone said. As much as the idea is cool and the concept of Spirited Away is beautiful aesthetic, I think it's still bad for her because intrinsically she knows that it's not part of her essence. At one point she will come to her senses. And when she realizes that she wasted her skin just to irritate or try to be the other person, it will be bad for her. And I would make it very clear to her and make sure she knew. Just to make fun of her. Someone said, I think I'd be pissed at my friend for not telling me sooner than that. She said that when they went to get the tattoo, Op said this would be a fair point. But me and her became friends after the incident. During this time, we were just acquaintances, mutual friends. And she ended up cutting Peggy off for her own reasons before we became close. Yeah, I don't think Peggy's gonna have too many friends, so. Wow.

[Arasha]

Yeah, not so much friends as inspiration to clone.

[Shane]

Yeah, Peggy's full on like a sketch character. Like, that's a hilarious character.

[Arasha]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

It's A person who's gonna copy you no matter what.

[Arasha]

And Opie sort of is like, let's see how far she'll go.

[Shane]

And I'm very happy with what they did.

[Chance]

Yeah, you're an idiot.

[Shane]

Before I get into the next confession, Trigger Warning Death this comes from True Off My Chest was posted in June of 2024. My negligence cost my partner her life and I'm about to lose everything. All right, buckle up.

[Arasha]

I hate that I have a feeling.

[Shane]

Peggy's about to look like a very A saint. Like a saint. Everybody that we just read about. The shallow girl from earlier. We're gonna miss her dearly.

[Chance]

I'm nervous.

[Shane]

Me too. I, a 35 year old man, have been married to Lisa, a 28 year old woman for three three years together. 7. A year ago I fell deeply in love with Amy, 24 year old woman and had been planning to end my marriage for her. I know it's terrible and not what my wife deserves, but we were the real thing. Two weeks ago she had an allergic reaction when we were getting food after work, but she used her EpiPen and seemed mostly okay afterwards. She usually gets checked at the hospital after a reaction, but I asked if I could take her home and she could get her friend to drive her there because my wife was expecting me back. All I know is that she had a secondary reaction that evening and died. I didn't even find out about it until the following Monday through a work email. It has been eating me up ever since and I will never forgive myself for not sacrificing an hour of my time to possibly save her. I sent some childish messages to Amy when I didn't hear from her over the weekend because I thought she was angry I didn't take her to the hospital. I am thankful she never saw them and ashamed that I assumed the worst. Our relationship was great and the highs far outweighed the lows, but I have always hated being ignored and I lose my cool when it happens. It is not a regular occurrence and I would have more than made it up to her. Yesterday at work. HR and legal were in the CEO's office all day and my manager ended up canceling our project meeting because he was with them all afternoon. I was on edge, but an affair isn't exactly a corporate crisis and I thought something would have already happened if anyone knew. I am now 99% certain it was about me. A few hours ago, I received a message from Amy's phone which said, this is Amy's brother Tom. I want you to know it was me. I tried to call, but it went straight to voicemail and none of my messages have been delivered. I tried to call my manager more times than I should have, and he sent a message saying, please don't contact me until Monday morning. I can't discuss anything with you right now. So it looks like my universe is going to collapse, I am going to be fired, and my wife will definitely find out why. All I can do is hope that Amy's brother only showed them the messages from that weekend and they were bad enough. I have no family except my wife and daughter and nowhere to go. All of my friends are either people I've met through my wife or my colleagues. On Monday, everything I've spent over a decade working towards disappears. I can't stop it. I can't talk to anyone about it. So here I am. I know cheaters are the devil, so I'm not expecting sympathy, but this is making my chest hurt and I need to get it out there.

[Chance]

I knew it was gonna be allergy. Okay, so I knew it, I knew it, I knew it.

[Shane]

We have a lot of people with allergies at Smosh, and they've explained this to me, that when you use an EpiPen, you then immediately need to go to the hospital.

[Chance]

I didn't know that.

[Shane]

Yeah, an EpiPen is not like, you're done, you're good. You use an EpiPen, it's kind of like, all right, you've delayed. This is my understanding. Basically, I just understand it's not over. It's still going go to the hospital. So he. They use the EpiPen and he's like, oh, yeah, can you get someone to take you to the hospital? I'm out.

[Arasha]

Can't be revealed as a child.

[Shane]

No dying right now just yet.

[Arasha]

So that is like anything he's talking about.

[Shane]

I know I'm a cheater. I'm the devil. I'm like, that's not even somehow the worst thing you've done here.

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[Chance]

It's like you don't care for either of them enough.

[Shane]

You don't care about anyone.

[Arasha]

No. And while you were committing this heinous act of cheating on your wife, think.

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[Arasha]

Happened, and that is what he's admitting to.

[Shane]

And at the end of all of this, cheating on his wife, he is, frankly, largely in part allowed someone to pass away for just not caring about them and taking them to the hospital, he's. All he's talking about is his world collapsing.

[Arasha]

Right?

[Shane]

He's like my friend group, my job, all this stuff. Oh, this is so awful. It's like someone died and there's no.

[Arasha]

Guilt, there's no grief. What about this?

[Chance]

He's not even.

[Shane]

Yeah, he's not going on about Amy.

[Chance]

Nothing. Not even.

[Shane]

He's not going on about, about Amy and be like, oh my God, I can't believe she passed away. This is so awful. No, he's immediately thinking about himself.

[Chance]

I think people ignore me, so I don't. Even though she was dead and not answering my texts, I got mad. It's not right. I feel so bad.

[Arasha]

But he's describing it as childish. And if he's saying that he gets upset when people Ignore him. It sounds like he's like, amy. Hey, Amy. Amy, stop being so immature. I'm sorry I didn't take you to the stupid hospital. I had to come back to my wife so that she didn't figure out that I was cheating on her.

[Shane]

But he don't know. He also probably was texting her about the allergic reaction.

[Chance]

Yes.

[Shane]

And so they know. They have the trail of, like, oh, she used the EpiPen, and then he drove her home and asked if she could have someone else pick her up from home to take her to the hospital. That's a lot of time, dude. You're already awful. Just lie.

[Chance]

Like, find some other lie to tell.

[Shane]

At that moment, someone's life is at stake.

[Arasha]

Right? At that point, other things jump to the top of the list, which is save this person's life. Deal with everything else going on underneath that after the fact.

[Shane]

I also don't trust this guy at all when he writes, she had an allergic reaction. We were getting food after work, but she used her EpiPen and seemed mostly okay afterwards. She seemed mostly okay. I don't know, man. I don't buy anything from this dude.

[Chance]

Did we talk about the brother already?

[Shane]

How the brother? This is Amy's brother, Tom. I want you to know it was me.

[Chance]

That's awesome.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Chance]

Straight up Game of Thrones shit.

[Shane]

He's about to Batman this dude.

[Chance]

Absolutely.

[Shane]

Yeah. This is the worst guy.

[Arasha]

It's like, as if you're trying to excuse the cheating, the affair. He's trying to appeal to us and be like, listen, I know it's a terrible thing. She doesn't deserve that. But Amy, this is the real thing. I love her so much. And then goes on to tell the story where he completely ignores her and is the reason she had a second allergic reaction and died.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Arasha]

So none of that means anything to you? Like, those words are empty. They're nothing. This man has zero, zero consideration for any of the women in his life, any person in his life.

[Shane]

At no point in this story do I believe this guy loves anyone because he. Yeah, Amy's the real deal. She dies and he says nothing else about her?

[Arasha]

No. At all.

[Shane]

He's completely focused on himself. He was like, oh, my wife, who I now hate. But I found a newer model that I like. I think that's how his sickness brain works.

[Arasha]

It feels like there also isn't even that much language about his already existing marriage crumbling. He's like, oh, all my friends that I got through this. Oh, my job, everything else that's gonna collapse when this comes out. Like it's not even this concern of oh I lost my wife, I lost this other person that I was having an affair with. Like it's all about him.

[Shane]

I also think it's funny when people end these types of posts with like, I know cheaters are the devil, so I'm not expecting sympathy. It's like yeah man, you know the reaction you're about to get. Like think about that. Yeah, like you need to change entirely. Yeah, you need help desperately. Comments Tom has real Olenna Tyrell energy. True King Shit someone said. Wow, you hate being ignored but are totally cool with ditching your wife and child. Are you really this self centered? You probably have been ignoring your wife and child for ages over over a lady you couldn't stand to not respond due to her medical emergency. She had a reaction in front of you and you got mad instead of maybe possibly thinking she was dealing with anaphylaxis. Everything that's about to happen to you is your karma. Lastly, someone said it sounds like childish messages is shorthand for abusive language. Your lack of family is a choice you made when you cheated on your wife. The real victims here are Amy, her family, your wife, and your daughter. The best thing you can do is make better choices and try to start being a decent human being.

[Arasha]

It breaks my heart when there's a kid involved like that.

[Shane]

Oh God.

[Arasha]

Like how irresponsible do you have to be?

[Shane]

I mean I could go. We could go on and on about how awful this guy is, but update. I don't know why he came back. Oh God. Like dude, you know there's nothing Tell.

[Chance]

Us you got fired. Maybe it's a big license, there's a lawsuit.

[Shane]

Update. I have been consistently harassed for an update since posting. So please take it gloat because you're such wonderful people in comparison. Then stop following me around Reddit. God damn. I am suffering in the wake of my infidelity and unprofessional behavior as I knew I would. I understand that it is an appropriate outcome and I am taking full accountability. I was suspended from work on Monday and I'll probably be fired sooner than I thought. I'd hoped to be able to save money as HR built their case, but it looks like Amy's brother basically performed the entire investigation for them. After an excruciating three hour run through of everything they had, I spoke to the founder and he recommended the solicitor I am now using. The issue is that the company has come down hard to protect themselves because even though Amy's family doesn't have much chance of a claim. Any suggestion of a cover up could cause damage. Regardless, the founder still thinks my offer to pay them back will keep it out of court. And some more information has come to light, so it's not certain I won't be prosecuted, but I'm quietly hopeful. I can't afford to keep the solicitor if this goes much further, especially with a divorce on the horizon. Things are not good with my wife. I'm still committed to making this as easy as possible for her, but I had to draw a line when it came to my daughter. When I got home from being unceremoniously escorted out of my office, she already had a bag packed for me. She wouldn't let me wait at the house until my daughter was back. She wouldn't let me check I had everything I needed, she wouldn't let me take the car, and she didn't care that I had nowhere to go. I spent two nights in a hotel, then went back. When she refused to let me see my little girl, she tried to stop me, but we owned the house jointly and it was my only option. My wife has family she could stay with, but she won't leave our daughter here and she's absolutely not taking her. So we're at a stalemate right now. I'm keeping out of her way as best I can, which I appreciate is the least I can do. The Amy situation is quite difficult to talk about and a lot hasn't sunk in yet. It turns out that she didn't love me as much as I loved her, if at all. Oh my God. Her brother sent me images of her talking to her friends about me and it's hard to believe they came from the person I loved, but they are real sorry to those who were heavily invested in me being a predatory abuser, but she and her friends had a good laugh about her manipulating me for money and a promotion. The role came with a big pay raise and it looks like her plan was to treat it as free cash, then go work with one of her friends when it fell through. She knew I'd come under scrutiny whenever she messed up and assumed I'd keep stepping in to save her. She was right. Obviously. I'm completely humiliated. I was planning to give up everything to build a life with her and she was treating me like a joke the whole time. My feelings are complicated, so please don't feel entitled to any expansion on this, but I no longer feel guilt over her death. Reddit acted like I kept her hostage while she Begged for help. What actually happened was that I asked if she could ask her friend to take her to the hospital because I had to go home. She said that was fine because she needed to get some clothes back from her anyway, and I dropped her off as normal. Ultimately, she was an adult who had a better understanding of her medical needs than I did. I still don't know what happened between us, saying goodbye and her death. But whatever it was, it had nothing to do with me. I'm sorry for her family's loss, but I bear no responsibility for her passing. After Amy's messages to her friends were passed around, a few people quietly reached out with words of support. I assumed everyone would write me off like Reddit did, as an abuser and predator. Now it's clear that Amy was using me. They see me as a fool who had then lost it all. It's beyond humiliating, but I have learned I'd rather be pitied than despised. It improves my legal position with work. They're small mercies, but I'll take what I can get. I remain filled with regret, and I will have learned many lessons by the time I get through this. I may have been deceived, but I am a grown man who made my choices and I take full responsibility for them.

[Arasha]

It felt like we were starting to get somewhere.

[Shane]

And then he just fully went back down to hell.

[Arasha]

Truly. Truly. I mean, to have everybody turn on their perspective again, like, oh, you know Amy. Amy mistreated me. Actually, I'm the victim.

[Chance]

It's also like, yeah, she was mistreating me while I was trying to manipulate her with money and my position of power.

[Shane]

Yeah, 100%. And cheating on my wife and all this stuff. And then I'm kind of also at the end of it, I'm like, I kind of don't care, man. Like, I don't care if she was worse than that. She used an EpiPen. She's probably not in her right mind. She's dealing with anaphylaxis. And you dropped her off and you were like, oh, well, she's an adult. She can handle it. Yeah, at the time, this was the person you wanted to build a life with and loved more than anything. I don't believe that you did not act as such. And now that you're finding all this information that's justifying all your horrible thoughts and your self centeredness and your cruelty.

[Arasha]

He's excusing himself.

[Shane]

He was always gonna find a reason to justify. Yeah, yeah, we knew that.

[Arasha]

Which is what's confusing, because he starts off by saying, I'm taking full accountability.

[Shane]

Whenever people say that, though, it's also.

[Chance]

So, like, I got to step in and save her whenever she messed up. Like, I got to come in and, like, save her at work whenever she messed up. That is so, like, gross to me. It's so, like, I get to save her. I get to fix her mistakes and save. It's like, princess.

[Shane]

I'm like, I don't care what she was saying to her friends. I don't care about any of it. When we're. We've now gone past, like, we've gone past infidelity and petty squabbles. Whatever. She died.

[Arasha]

She died.

[Shane]

Yeah. And we're going down to that moment of. And you acted so selfishly.

[Arasha]

And was it her brother that sent the messages to him again and was just like, I want to know. I want you to know all of this was happening, too. You know, like, he sent the screenshots of what her friends were saying with Amy.

[Shane]

Yeah. I think that's how he found out. There was a lot, so. But it's also kind of like he's like, oh, but look at all this stuff. It's like, dude, you're getting fired from your job. You have to pay them to avoid a court case. This is all adding up. And the evidence is showing you are worse than you're letting on. Yeah. Right.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Your wife knows you. You were cheating. And then probably from her perspective with not having all the information is like, I don't know what's going on. Did you murder this woman? Yeah.

[Arasha]

And I draw the line at my daughter. No, you fucking don't.

[Shane]

You don't get to draw any lines now, man.

[Arasha]

Yeah, no, no, not at all. It's. And he's like, she is getting full custody. Oh, 100%.

[Martha Stewart]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Yeah. They're like, sorry, there's a. You might be responsible. The person you were cheating, having an affair with is dead.

[Rocket Money Advertiser]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And you were with her that night. You're never seeing your daughter again.

[Arasha]

Right.

[Chance]

What happened to the friend? He dropped her off. And the friend was supposed to take her to the. That's what she.

[Shane]

From my understanding, is he was like, oh, I need to get back to my wife so she doesn't find out I'm cheating. You just used an EpiPen. Let me drop you off at home. And she goes, yeah, I guess I could be dropped off at home. I need to change clothes anyways.

[Arasha]

And then my friend and then drops.

[Shane]

Her off, doesn't wait for a friend to show up doesn't just by herself at home and then leave.

[Chance]

That's crazy.

[Shane]

Yeah. And I don't, like I said, I don't know much about the situation itself, but it's just if someone is in a situation where they have to use an EpiPen, where they have to use life saving measures.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Someone needs to be with them.

[Arasha]

And like, even so, again, it's a terrible, terrible thing that he's doing when he's having this affair. But he could even try to put the words together of like, I was desperate to go home and like not get caught. And now I feel so bad. I should have stayed, I should have helped her. I should have done this. None of that.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Arasha]

Just plain excuses of, well, like, I did everything that I was supposed to and she's a grownup and she knows her body.

[Shane]

I did everything I could.

[Chance]

No, I fucking hate how he in.

[Shane]

The first post is like, I would do absolutely everything for her. She's my world. I want to rebuild a life with her and those. Suddenly it's, well, she's her own person. She can figure it out. She's a grown up. It's like you're changing your entire tact right now, man.

[Arasha]

100%.

[Shane]

You're trying to protect your own sanity right now from the fact that you are the worst person alive.

[Arasha]

Yeah. Again, it reads similar where he doesn't have this sense of self. Again, he's being steered even in the sentiment that he makes, where he'd rather be pitied than be despised.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Arasha]

Like that's all. It just feels like information for him on how he's supposed to feel about himself and his situation. He can't come up with any of that on his own.

[Shane]

I think this is a thing I have read about. You can become a worse person when you do a bad thing and then justify it in your own head. You lower the bar inside your own mind and you can become worse in that way. I think this guy's gonna become a. He's clearly becoming a. Somehow becoming a worse person.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

Throughout all this. We have our final story here. It comes from co worker stories. It was Posted September of 2025. I'm a CO worker of someone whose Reddit story about work went viral. I'm feeling chatty, so ama, I guess inspired by this post, the post we just read. Someone asked if they'd ever seen a Reddit post about themselves. I'm in the comments because I worked at the same company as this guy and in the same department as his affair partner who died under very sad circumstances. You can read all about it from his perspective. Conveniently, I only joined Reddit quite recently, but I was aware of the post a few weeks after it was made because it was passed around the office and gave us all a ton of information which made a lot of things suddenly make sense. We were all extremely invested at the time, and weirdly, the story you all saw set off a series of events which basically led to an entire division of the company quitting.

[Chance]

Oh my God. I'm so excited.

[Shane]

Oh my God. I've seen it repeated on a few of those TikTok Reddit read through accounts, and a few people in the comments of the post I saw earlier today seemed interested. So because the company didn't think to get me to sign any additional confidentiality agreements when I left an equally dramatic but also closely related story, I figured I'd spend a Friday night drinking wine and spilling tea. If anyone wants some.

[Chance]

This person is a godson.

[Shane]

We want is One thing I do need to mention is that the original OP has a brain injury he didn't disclose in his posts. I can't speculate too much on that, but I'm not saying it makes his actions forgivable, but it'd be crazy to pretend it's not a factor. He lives independently, but from what I'm aware, his brother helps him a lot. Okay, wow. All right, so these are all comments with responses from op. Did it end up going to court?

[Chance]

No.

[Shane]

They all used to abuse their expenses and they knew he could bury everyone if it ever saw the inside of a courtroom. He claimed to be running out of money in his last post, but it was common knowledge he got a huge payout after his accident. A sign wasn't properly mounted on a shop front and it fell on him when he was walking past, so he could have easily afforded to take it all the way. So I imagine the first question would have been why they gave someone with brain damage a company card with no restrictions and no written policy on what they could and couldn't use it for. So the company at large was corrupt. Corrupt.

[Chance]

Any chance he could have spent the.

[Shane]

Payout all on Amy or on drugs? I mean, I guess there's a good chance his wife would have noticed, but he obviously hadn't been thinking clearly for a long time. OP said definitely not drugs. He drank in moderation, but was pretty judgmental about anything else. Amy? Absolutely. He spent thousands and thousands on her. She would link him to things over and over again until he bought them for her. The HR Guys were disgusted when they got the phone back and saw all the messages. I haven't seen the messages myself, but they said enough to confirm it was extremely predatory.

[Chance]

Wait, wait, wait. Say that part again, sir.

[Shane]

I haven't seen. The HR guys were disgusted when they got the phone back and saw all the messages.

[Chance]

So whose phone and what op's messages to Amy.

[Shane]

OP messages to her.

[Martha Stewart]

Amy.

[Shane]

I haven't seen the messages myself, but they said enough to confirm it was extremely predatory.

[Chance]

Got it.

[Shane]

Maybe I'm misreading this, but it seems like they're saying Amy was like sending links, like getting him to spend money on her.

[Chance]

That's what it sounded like.

[Shane]

Did any of you know she was having an affair before it all imploded? Did you attend her funeral? What's co worker doing now? We had no idea. They didn't work together directly and didn't have any reason to interact much in the office. The pairing didn't make sense to any of us. You'd never put them together in a million years. She had one friend in the office who attended the funeral and who was dismissed because of the content of their messages to each other. She was in the kind of role that can make or break a project even though she had absolutely no talent, experience or interest. That mystery was obviously solved pretty quickly after she died. So even though it's objectively super shitty, we were basically relieved because we wouldn't have to deal with it anymore. For context, she was project managing a team of physicists and electrical engineers on a pretty heavy government backed project, and she was initially hired as an office admin assistant with zero previous experience. We were all surprised by the promotion, but it was the kind of company you could build your way up in, so it just seemed like a misstep. Former co worker hasn't worked since. From what I know, he's living independently in what I'm vaguely aware of being a retirement type community, but his brother deals with his finances and helps him out with general life stuff. He's allowed to drive and stuff, so he's obviously fine in the ways that matter, but I'm not sure he'll work again. Someone said he never mentioned the traumatic brain injury in his post. In your opinion, did he think of his abilities as diminished post accident? Do you think he could see any of his new shortcomings? Your company wrapped him in cotton wool to protect him, it seems. Was he aware of any of these accommodations, I wonder? Because the traumatic brain injury makes his actions seem far less callous than if he had all his faculties, his personality definitely changed significantly. He can hold a conversation and his knowledge level remained extremely high. But he became quite immature and couldn't deal with anything if he wasn't expecting it. He could provide really insightful feedback about something we were working on, then two minutes later lose his temper or shut down completely because he'd spilled a drink. He had to step back from dealing with clients because he couldn't be trusted. He'd just say yes to whatever they asked for. And it led to a few nasty surprises. He didn't take any new clients after the injury, so they were generally very understanding because they saw the same changes we did. It's tough to explain. If you met him on a good day, you could spend a few hours with him and not realize, but any more than that and you'd almost certainly go through, oh, that was a bit odd to. Okay, there's definitely something wrong here. To my knowledge, nobody tried to figure out how aware he was of the brain injury. The key phrase drummed into us when he started coming back to the office a bit was meet him where he is. And he was a really well respected member of the team, so we were all really sympathetic to the situation. I did hear him make a few comments about his brain being broken, but they were fairly light hearted and mainly centered around him forgetting small things.

[Chance]

This sucks.

[Shane]

This sucks a lot.

[Arasha]

Unfortunately, it does kind of change a lot too.

[Chance]

Absolutely. Now it shifts from him being predatory to her being predatory. Using the brain injury to not only climb up through the company, but manipulate him financially.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Chance]

Oh, God.

[Arasha]

And I don't know if the timeline lines up as well, but I'm feeling like I'm going back to the other story of him having this happy marriage and this daughter. And then I feel like he said, like, but about a year ago I fell for somebody else. Like that also just feels like that complete behavior change.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Arasha]

It has to do with that. These choices that he's making and the contradicting lines that we're talking about of him caring so much about his daughter, but then making this like crazy choice to cheat on his family. It's like, well, he's got a brain injury, he's not thinking straight.

[Martha Stewart]

Yeah.

[Shane]

It's always a fresh reminder for me. And I try to keep this in mind whenever we're reading a story of like, we're missing most of the angles of a story, even when it seems so clear cut.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

But whenever we get a third party perspective and it's just like, oh, and there's always so Much crucial information. And it doesn't necessarily change the situation. Right. Like, it's like he still abandoned her when she needed someone. But it's like, oh, but you introduce a brain injury into this story. And I'm like, well, now I don't know what's going on.

[Chance]

It's also interesting because he wrote the original story and he still seemed like the asshole, but he omitted a big part, which was.

[Shane]

I wouldn't want to talk about that.

[Chance]

All the time either.

[Shane]

Yeah.

[Arasha]

And I'm curious if the wife is considering any of that.

[Shane]

I don't. I mean, where this is now at is in a place where I'm like, I can't.

[Arasha]

We don't know enough.

[Shane]

I have no. I can't offer any. My views are as good as anyone else.

[Chance]

I wanna see the message.

[Shane]

I'm not a neurologist. But it is scary. And I've heard that a brain injury can completely change a person.

[Arasha]

Totally.

[Shane]

It was just so scary.

[Arasha]

Well, and also just like affect the decision making. Right. Because a lot of what we were giving feedback on and critiquing were his choices. The affair. And I mean, the crux of the whole story was him choosing to let somebody who just had an allergic reaction not go immediately to the hospital. Like, it's clear that that was a reason for his misjudgment too.

[Shane]

Yeah. Who we know absolutely for certain is an asshole is the entire company. Because he got a brain injury. It sounds like they completely swept it under the rug. Completely. We're just like, yeah, you're fine, Everything's good. Which then led to all these other events.

[Arasha]

Yep.

[Shane]

And so. And the company was corrupt the way they were spending money and everything.

[Arasha]

Yeah.

[Shane]

So all these awful things happened under it.

[Arasha]

But it sounds like he should not have continued in that job position and.

[Shane]

Having a credit card with no restrictions or anything. I mean, this was wild.

[Chance]

Yeah. The company too. She was an ad administrator and now she's like running a government backed project. She's not equipped to be running the things that she's running. And yet. Oh, God. And they had to show up every time and be like, okay, I'm gonna do this. I guess. Even though she's not equipped.

[Shane]

Yeah. This is one of the wildest stories we've ever read.

[Arasha]

It's just that there's so much nuance.

[Shane]

There is so much going on in one story. No. This is a. I need a miniseries out of this. Yeah. I'm sad she passed away. Like, that's tragic.

[Arasha]

Right. And regardless of her actions before it's still tragic.

[Martha Stewart]

Yeah.

[Shane]

That doesn't mean, like death. Yeah. None of that adds up to she deserved what happened.

[Arasha]

None of it. Yeah.

[Shane]

And here's the crazy thing. We covered a couple questions op. The co worker answers way more. There's probably way more information. So if you're listening to this, watching this, go to that Reddit story. Yeah, there's probably so much more.

[Arasha]

She, like, tucked into her couch with that glass of wine and was just.

[Shane]

Like, yeah, no, that's a story you talk about forever.

[Arasha]

Oh, yeah.

[Rocket Money Advertiser]

Wow.

[Shane]

Damn. Anyways, thank you both for joining me for that ride.

[Arasha]

People had to get stuff off their chest.

[Shane]

Oh, my God. So at the end of it all, Peggy's the worst.

[Arasha]

Yes.

[Chance]

Agreed.

[Shane]

I think we can agree Peggy's worst.

[Arasha]

Because her name is Peggy.

[Shane]

Because her name is Peggy.

[Martha Stewart]

Yeah.

[Shane]

And this isn't Mad Men. Stop. Stop it.

[Arasha]

Yes.

[Chance]

Or Hamilton.

[Arasha]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Shane]

It's always funny. We read a story like that. It's like, all right, now let's go.

[Chance]

To another video where we have to be silly.

[Rocket Money Advertiser]

Silly.

[Shane]

Now let's go play park games. Yeah. Thank you for watching and hey, we'll see you next Saturday.

[Arasha]

Leave a confession in the comments.

[Shane]

Yeah. Confess.

[Chance]

Confess.

[Shane]

Confess in the comments.

[Chance]

Confess.

[Shane]

Confess.

[Arasha]

Confess.

[Shane]

Confess.

[Arasha]

Confetti.

[Chance]

Confess.

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