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Fortune Feimster
This is a headgum podcast with a.
Caleb Hearon
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Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
I'm not just like, you know, let's be positive. And then I'm like, don't look at me.
Caleb Hearon
The pas tower in fear when you come down the hallway.
Fortune Feimster
Like, nah, that's not it for me.
Caleb Hearon
Whoa. Okay. Are you watching that show?
Fortune Feimster
I did watch it, yeah.
Caleb Hearon
I. You've seen all of them.
Fortune Feimster
I have.
Caleb Hearon
I have only seen a couple episodes and I need. I feel like I need to lock in.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, it's always good. Mike White knows what's up.
Caleb Hearon
Once they got Walton Goggins, I was like, it's time to get. For me to get serious.
Fortune Feimster
We had him in Righteous gemstones and that at the same time.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Going from baby Billy to his crazy ass character. They're both crazy, but for different reasons.
Caleb Hearon
Walton Goggins is an American icon.
Fortune Feimster
He's a treat.
Caleb Hearon
I love him. Did you ever watch the Shield?
Fortune Feimster
I didn't.
Caleb Hearon
I watched.
Fortune Feimster
Were you a big fan of the Shield? I did not see that coming, dude.
Caleb Hearon
No. I watched for some reason when I was like 15, I got obsessed with the Shield cuz I loved him and Michael Chickless. I was like, I need to be. And CCH Pounder.
Fortune Feimster
These are my guys.
Caleb Hearon
These are my guys. And I truly. I watched all of. I should not have been watching the Shield at that age. I watched all of the Shield twice.
Fortune Feimster
Twice. I loved it. You were a Shield, Stan.
Caleb Hearon
I was a Shield. Anista I loved it. I watched the whole thing. And that's when I fell in love with Walton Goggins, my guy.
Fortune Feimster
He's great.
Caleb Hearon
I didn't even know he could do. It was such a serious role he was playing.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And then the first time I saw him in a comedy, I guess, was probably like, season one of Righteous Gemstones.
Fortune Feimster
And then didn't he. I didn't watch this either. But on Sons of Anarchy, didn't he wear women's clothing or something? Am I making this up?
Caleb Hearon
Did he wear women's clothing on Sons of Anarchy?
Fortune Feimster
Guys, this. Was this a TikTok that led me astray? I don't know.
Caleb Hearon
I've never seen that show. In fact, I don't really know what it is.
Fortune Feimster
I don't.
Caleb Hearon
In fact, I'll go one further and tell you.
Fortune Feimster
Motorcycle.
Caleb Hearon
Wait, can we pull it up, guys?
Fortune Feimster
Don't let TikTok have led me astray. See? Oh, right, that's him.
Caleb Hearon
Why is he stunning? No, why is he eating down? What the fuck?
Fortune Feimster
Chicken.
Caleb Hearon
One more to the right. Put this one on the screen for the episode. Whoa, he's eating down.
Fortune Feimster
Where are those boobs, Popper?
Caleb Hearon
Yes. Yes.
Fortune Feimster
I saw it on Tik Tok and I was like, I never saw the show, so I didn't experience this character.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, he looks good as. Yeah, I like that for him.
Fortune Feimster
So there's a lot of range there. So what I'm saying.
Caleb Hearon
Have you ever gotten to do male drag?
Fortune Feimster
I mean, kind of every day. Just like wearing. I'm a. I identify as a girl, but I'm all woman. But I wear.
Caleb Hearon
All the time.
Fortune Feimster
I wear men's clothes because they fit me better now.
Caleb Hearon
Where are you shopping?
Fortune Feimster
I almost straight up went the Gap, but I don't. Those are the olden days now. I'm like a Vince gal. I love Vince.
Caleb Hearon
I don't know.
Fortune Feimster
Theory. Oh, that kind of stuff.
Caleb Hearon
Are these places you're going in person? Are you shopping online?
Fortune Feimster
I'll go to like a Neiman's or something.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. I'm an online shopper.
Fortune Feimster
I hate online shopping.
Caleb Hearon
I do, too, but I have no choice.
Fortune Feimster
Fits me.
Caleb Hearon
They don't sell. It's to me, it's that way in stores. If I go in store and I ask them to find a piece of clothing that fits me.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
They couldn't tear the curtains off the wall and get them wrapped on me. They don't have. No store has anything to fit me.
Fortune Feimster
They're just like, oh, bless your heart.
Caleb Hearon
Truly. Bless your. They say, take your big ass to the website. Cuz what they also will do is some of them will carry women's plus in stores and then not carry men's.
Fortune Feimster
That's weird.
Caleb Hearon
Like Target and Old Navy both have. They go up to like 4 or 5x in women's and then in men's they stop at 2 and I say what's that?
Fortune Feimster
Probably online. They carry less of a thing so they just store it in a warehouse, some somewhere. I bet they're like these biggins. Like Fortune will go online and find it.
Caleb Hearon
They know that I'll get my big ass on there and go scouring through the website because I have no choice. I'm a. I'm a store refugee. I have no choice but to go to the Internet and beg.
Fortune Feimster
There you go.
Caleb Hearon
And then do big returns.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, yeah, I'm. But I kind of keep it simple. I don't, as you can probably tell, go shopping a lot. I just kind of rehash the same outfit over and over again.
Caleb Hearon
Well, for guys like me and you, it's easy. We're doing T shirt, jeans and a little overshirt. That's where we're living.
Fortune Feimster
We're getting by on our personalities. Baby, baby. Ain't nobody looking to see what I'm wearing.
Caleb Hearon
Fortune's fun to have at dinner. Let's hang out with Fortune.
Fortune Feimster
What blazer does Fortune have on tonight?
Caleb Hearon
I would love to see you in a blazer as a casual day blazer.
Fortune Feimster
I love a blazer.
Caleb Hearon
Are you doing a casual day blazer?
Fortune Feimster
I'm not rocking it during the day but at like an event. Yeah, I'm rocking a blazer.
Caleb Hearon
What, you're on tour right now?
Fortune Feimster
I am, yeah.
Caleb Hearon
What's been going on on tour? How's this one stacking up to the others?
Fortune Feimster
It's good. It literally just started this last weekend taking care of biscuits. Huh huh.
Caleb Hearon
And yes, it sure is.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, it's all new material. My last special, crushing it came out a couple months ago on Netflix.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
So this is the new stuff. And this will go about a year and a half. It'll be about 100 cities, 150 shows.
Caleb Hearon
You, you. And there you are. Really? You're out there.
Fortune Feimster
I'm an overachiever.
Caleb Hearon
You're busting your ass.
Fortune Feimster
This is how I'm getting my self worth.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Oh, is it? No, I said oh.
Fortune Feimster
Oh. I do like myself, but I enjoy working.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, it's.
Fortune Feimster
It's not even. I know it sounds so like. But I, I love to work, I love to, to tour and I love to do the shows. The travel's hard. The travel part, that, to me, is the kicker.
Caleb Hearon
When it's just on stage, it's so fun. It's like, oh, I'm doing my thing.
Fortune Feimster
The stage part's the cake.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
You're basically getting paid to travel, and.
Caleb Hearon
You'Re getting paid to just have fun and, like, interact with people. Like, you're just talking to the room and seeing how they're feeling.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And telling your jokes.
Fortune Feimster
I love it because, you know, I keep it simple. It's just me. I don't have a. Like, I have a tour. Tour person who goes to all the cities with me, and she's amazing. She takes care of everything. But, like, on the road, it's. My wife used to tour with me a lot, but she's over it now.
Caleb Hearon
She's like, hey, this isn't new for me.
Fortune Feimster
Now I'm done. You're good, right? So I'm like, flying to a city, renting a car, puttering over to the stage. Like, they're always, like, looking for an entourage or something. And I'm like, why? I don't you think I want to take five people to Chili's? No.
Caleb Hearon
I would love to be someone who gets to go to Chili's with you.
Fortune Feimster
That we have to go to Chili's.
Caleb Hearon
If you said, caleb, do you want to hop my rental in Indianapolis and go to Chili's, I'd say, yes, I sure do.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, we're going to get that. We're going to get that cheese pull with those triple dippers.
Caleb Hearon
God, you got something killed with that one. You know, I'm getting a triple dipper combo. I'm going nuts on some Southwest egg rolls and honey spot with chicken crispers. That's good stuff.
Fortune Feimster
It's really good.
Caleb Hearon
Now, see, I'm. As somebody who grew up fat in Missouri.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
I've been on. I've been on chain restaurants, Chili's. I've been a dedicated fan.
Fortune Feimster
Same.
Caleb Hearon
But now Tick Tock is making them, like, famous.
Fortune Feimster
I know. It feels like everyone's discovering these places for the first time.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Like, this is my life, my childhood. Like, everything that I know and love is what you guys are discovering.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. We're just getting here. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
Or yeah. They're like. They're like, can you believe the. There's three dollar margaritas at Applebee's. I'm like, believe it. I was upselling them in high school.
Fortune Feimster
That's right.
Caleb Hearon
Yes, I believe it. Come on.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. We rode off, you know, rode off into the sunset with those margaritas, saying, not driving.
Caleb Hearon
We had a couple of those margaritas and got behind the wheel. Honey. I was asking someone recently, and I don't know, maybe it was a live audience or something, but I didn't know that a DUI was a big deal until I got to college.
Fortune Feimster
Really?
Caleb Hearon
Because everyone.
Fortune Feimster
I was pretty aware of it. Everyone was not good.
Caleb Hearon
Everyone where I grew up had one.
Fortune Feimster
Really?
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, no. They put the fear of God in us. We were not to do that.
Caleb Hearon
North Carolina, where you're from.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
Is, like, crazy strict about driving.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
You guys have, like, I've had. I had a friend who got pulled over for speeding in North Carolina, and they were like, we're the strictest in the country.
Fortune Feimster
They love it. I mean, my mom's always like, if you're. When you're driving from Charlotte to Raleigh, you better slow down.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Because they're bored. They just sit out there and wait for you.
Caleb Hearon
I got, like, advice from a rental car company in Charlotte once. They were like. While I was picking up the car, he was like, hey, man, this isn't like, other places.
Fortune Feimster
Don't.
Caleb Hearon
Don't speed out here.
Fortune Feimster
I don't know if maybe they need the money.
Caleb Hearon
Like, maybe that's how they're doing it over there.
Fortune Feimster
They're just like, y'all. Y'all better round them up.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, get those speeders.
Fortune Feimster
Better round them up. Get that money for the state.
Caleb Hearon
How did your podcast. Handsome with Tig and May.
Fortune Feimster
Yes. We haven't used it yet. It's coming well.
Caleb Hearon
I fucked it up, like, four times. Poor Fortune messaging me and being like, hey, super simple Ask. Do you want to do a question for the show? Here's the parameters. I missed, like, three of the parameters on the first one. Second one. Ask a question that everyone's asked. Like an idiot. Truly. You had to message me, like, five times and be like, hey, hug. Loving the effort.
Fortune Feimster
Hey, Shug. Hey, Shug. This is great. One note, however.
Caleb Hearon
I messed it up so many times, and it's been so long since I sent in the right one. Now I was like, who knows if they'll use it? Fortune might have gotten sick of me. Actually. How did. How did that. I'm interested in how that came about.
Fortune Feimster
Tig reached out to May and I and just wanted to do a podcast that was kind of like, you know, gay. Gay friendly. Didn't know what that.
Caleb Hearon
Okay.
Fortune Feimster
We're pretty gay.
Caleb Hearon
Okay, cool.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
I'm like, wait a minute.
Fortune Feimster
My wife thinks so. Pretty gay. Tag and I are Lesbians. May's trans. A little different colors of the rainbow. May's also bi. So we're checking lots of boxes maze out there and. And we didn't know what it would be at first. And all of us were kind of like, we're busy, but also like, what if this is the greatest plot ever and we're not part of it? You know, that we didn't want to have that FOMO almost said. I almost said pomo.
Caleb Hearon
Well, we don't have pomo either.
Fortune Feimster
Podcast of missing out or. Yeah, so we just like, really enjoyed each other, but didn't know each other really well. Like, I had met May at the Melbourne Comedy Festival years ago, new Tig. But none of us were like, in the weeds with each other as far as, like, daily life or knowing a lot. So we thought it'd also be a cool way to get to know each other. And May's in their 30s, I'm in my 40s. I know it's hard to believe. It is. And tig's in her 50s. So it's also a different era of like approaching any kind of topic.
Caleb Hearon
Oh, that's interesting.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. So the podcast is nonsense. We talk about nothing and everything and it's so silly. But we're about a year and a half in. It's got like 30 million downloads. It's like this wild thing in all of our careers that we never saw, you know, being a big thing. But we had a show at the Ryman the other night and the crowd, they go nuts.
Caleb Hearon
That is so the Ryman. That's so cool.
Fortune Feimster
It's really cool.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, that's really freaking cool.
Fortune Feimster
So it's awesome. We're about to do a 3,000 seat theater this weekend that's sold out. And yeah, people just like the ridiculousness of it. Yeah, I, you know, I like being silly. I like, why else be a comedian if. If not to like, have a good time with it, make people laugh.
Caleb Hearon
I like pretty much anytime you pop up in a wig, when I see you doing a wig, that's where if I see. If I see Fortune's got a wig on, I turn the sound up and stop what I'm doing.
Fortune Feimster
Let's see what's going on.
Caleb Hearon
What's she cooking over there?
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, I've got a bunch of characters that, because I started the Groundlings and these characters haven't seen the light of day, I gotta pop them out one of these days.
Caleb Hearon
I would love to see, honestly, if you ever. Now, if you have the first thing I want for you is a nap because you're doing so much, but if.
Fortune Feimster
You, if you get tired and a triple dipper.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, napping. A triple dipper. I'm gonna bring a triple dipper over your house, tuck you into bed, and set on one of those little bed and breakfast stands for you.
Fortune Feimster
That sounds amazing.
Caleb Hearon
That's Valentine's Day. Yes, that's Valentine's Day. But yeah, if you get a break from, you know, putting out a specials all the time and touring sold out cities and doing all this crazy stuff with the podcast, I would love to see the Fortune Feimster one woman show.
Fortune Feimster
Really?
Caleb Hearon
You pull out those wigs and start doing some characters. I'd be front row, baby.
Fortune Feimster
I've tried it. I've thought about, like, how that would work because there are different parts of my career that, that haven't intertwined with each other. And I've wondered what that would look like to, you know, do a little bit of characters and do a little bit of stand up, do a little bit of improv, a little bit of whatever. Serious stuff. I also don't mind being earnest on stage, too, but I've never melded everything into one.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, you, I, I, you know that I'm such a fan of yours and I know it's awkward to say to your face, but I just think you're so, so, so funny and so, so good at this. And I.
Fortune Feimster
Thanks, Kayla.
Caleb Hearon
Truly one of the most recent times that I was. It's like there's just certain shows, you know, and I'm sure you've had a million of these, but you, you're watching a friend perform or somebody that you know or friendly with or just even someone that you just kind of like from afar.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And they're doing so good that you're like, oh, man, it's so cool that I also do this thing. We get to, like, be a part of this community. And when you performed at Big Slick in Kansas City and you just murdered. Tore the roof off and truly me and I was sitting with a bunch of the folks from SNL and we were just watching like, fortune's a legend.
Fortune Feimster
Fortune's killing up there. It was so cool. That was a really neat show. I did not know what to expect that I got to go to your neck of the woods.
Caleb Hearon
Kansas City, baby.
Fortune Feimster
Yes. And everyone's so lovely there. It's such a community. And we did that show and they, I was like, near the last of the comedians. There was a band after me, but they kept being like, all right, you know, 12 minutes, don't go over. Keep it tight.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
I think they were worried I was gonna just bomb.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And it was ended up being this, a really magical time on stage. The audience was incredible. And that's where I got to meet you. Like, I had seen you, but we had never really chatted and we got to really, like, actually have a conversation and hang out. I'm such a fan of yours. And you're so funny.
Caleb Hearon
Knock it off. Get out of here.
Fortune Feimster
I swear to God, your clips pop up and it is such a treat. You're always saying something ridiculous, but it's always true. It's always like, facts.
Caleb Hearon
Something ridiculous should have been the name of the show.
Fortune Feimster
We missed that one. But I'm always like, you're saying the things that people are thinking, you know, like, yes, that's it.
Caleb Hearon
But it's so funny, unfortunately, it gets me in trouble.
Fortune Feimster
Well, I can see that as well.
Caleb Hearon
Hey, it gets me in trouble every once in a while. Yeah, it. I. I think I first saw your stuff because you. When did. What age did you move to L. A?
Fortune Feimster
I moved at 23.
Caleb Hearon
23. And were you. I know you worked as an entertainment journalist for like six or seven years.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
When does. Did you start that? Right away when you got out here?
Fortune Feimster
No, I moved to L. A. Like, kind of a life experience. I got a job as a PA Personal assistant. I was terrible at it, you know, Like, I'm not an organized person. Like, I can. My calendar is chaos, but I know what it means, you know, But I can't, like, be in charge of someone else's life. So I immediately was awful at that. But it got me out here. It was like that catalyst. Otherwise, I don't think I would have moved to LA. I was from a tiny town, like 8, 000 people in North Carolina.
Caleb Hearon
Is it Belmont?
Fortune Feimster
Belmont, yeah. Nice. Look at you, what you do, Bar.
Caleb Hearon
I'm locked in. I'm locked in. Unfortunate. I know what's going on.
Fortune Feimster
And yeah, two years in, I was. I'd always loved comedy. I watched SNL growing up, like, religiously. Didn't really follow standup. That wasn't my hometown. Like, people just didn't, like, have albums or anything like that. But I had heard of the Groundlings being a place where those SNL folks went. And I was like, that seems cool. So I just started taking improv classes for fun, really, just to make friends. And my teachers just told me, like, you got to keep going. And. And then. But the entertainment journalism started kind of on top of the personal assistant job. It was like a part time job where her, the woman I was working for, her neighbor wrote for like the LA Daily News. And she was like, I heard you can write. Do you want to go cover movie premieres? And as a 23 year old, you're.
Caleb Hearon
Like, hell yeah, I do.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, come on. And those, those premieres are cool. Back in the day, now Hollywood's bleeding money, so there's nothing for free. But back then it was like the heyday. So it was like every party, every premiere, you'd get these giant swag bags full of like all this stuff. It was like the golden era of this town. And then, you know, now they're just like, get out of here. It's a cash bar. Like, we don't need you. Everyone's going to stream this anyway. Yeah, but yeah, it was cool. I did it for like seven years. I got to interview all these people and talk to people on the phone, went to events, went to award shows. I was invited to more things as a journalist than I am as an actor.
Caleb Hearon
Get that fortune in here.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And I feel like I don't think I'm making this up, but I'm recalling on a while ago memory, but I feel like the first time I ever saw you do comedy, like, was on my TV is maybe on like Chelsea lately.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, that was Chelsea. My first technical TV thing was Last comic Standing. But that's like, you know, a couple episodes. But Chelsea was my, yeah, that was my debut as far as like big break 2011. That started. Yeah, I was a writer. I, I got a job as a writer first. And within a week she kind of looked at me like a giant baby doll of like someone she could put in outfits.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
So what you love, you want to.
Caleb Hearon
Be like, oh yeah, dress me up. I know.
Fortune Feimster
But I was like, how much are you to pay me? All right, fine. I was broke, like, because the Journal, the newspapers were starting to fold and the, the, the, the whole world of news and everything was just shifting significantly. So that job was coming to an end. And I had a year of just like being broke. I was like, let me try to like do comedy full time. And I had no money. And her job, the, the opportunity came when I owed my, my roommate rent. I didn't have, I had maybe $20 in the bank. I mean, I was like, I'm about to have to go get another, you know, like, I gotta go walk dogs or go to Starbucks or something.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Which I would have happily done whatever it took because I Love this so much that I. I would have done whatever job I needed to, to keep it. To keep the dream alive, to keep being able to stay out here and. And try and I submitted a writing packet and by some miracle, they hired me.
Caleb Hearon
And did you have like a team at the time?
Fortune Feimster
I had nothing.
Caleb Hearon
So you just truly were like. I heard there was a packet opening. I'm sending one in.
Fortune Feimster
I might have. I did have a manager. We had been together a little bit, and she was. We both. I was getting a lot of no's. There was not an agents didn't want me. I had a lot of agents telling me no. And yeah, I. I finally signed like a commercial agent and never got sent out because weirdly enough, products weren't trying to get this big old gal to sell their stuff. And so, yeah, it was. The business was different, though. I know it. It wasn't that long ago, but it's 2010, 2011. Being different was not it. They did not want it. I. If you sounded different, look different, a bigger person, gay, all the things they. No, thank you. They wanted this cookie cutter thing on television, and Chelsea was that person that was like, no, I like the. The weirdos, the different people, the personalities. Like, she. She really opened the door in that way. And once she said yes, it was off to the races. That was when everyone started to say yes.
Caleb Hearon
That's the tough thing is, like, so often, even when, you know, it's the way to be successful is to be succeeding. It's like people want to put you in things because they've seen you in things.
Fortune Feimster
Exactly.
Caleb Hearon
And so it's like, God, if someone would just.
Fortune Feimster
I know. So, you know, I don't have like a. My own TV show to like, hire people, but you know, like, on the road or. Or shows or clubs, I'm always trying to find different comics that I like or think are funny and like, hey, you want to do. Do some spots tonight with me? It's nothing big that I can do for people, but something, you know, I would have. It would have meant a lot to me coming up to have a comic put me on their show. And yeah, you try to give people opportunities that you just think are funny in hopes that they'll keep growing and get their opportunities.
Caleb Hearon
It's also hard because so much of the, like, if you want to do acting or TV or film or whatever, it's like, okay, well, so much of it is type. And so they have to have seen someone like you do really well, and they have to have seen audiences Respond to someone like you and I. You know, it's an interesting time now because everyone, since I started this stuff has been like, well, you'll probably have to make your own thing.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
You know, because you're fat and gay. And. And so the. For the. If they want a fat guy with tattoos or whatever, they're looking for, like, an older guy who's, like, gruff and straight. And if they want a gay guy.
Fortune Feimster
They want to type.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, no one is looking for me. You know, there are things I can squeeze into.
Fortune Feimster
We could add a podcast called Fat and Gay.
Caleb Hearon
And guess what, Fortune? Whenever you're ready, it's time to walk in the. Our fat gay podcast would go crazy. It would go crazy.
Fortune Feimster
It'd be like, we are unapologetically fat and gay. Anyway, I'll work on that theme song.
Caleb Hearon
Unapologetically Fat and gay.
Fortune Feimster
The word unapologetically. I'm like, unapologetically.
Caleb Hearon
Well, that could be the bit. We call it Big Homo.
Fortune Feimster
That's right. Big Homo.
Caleb Hearon
And all of our listeners are in the pocket of Big Homo.
Fortune Feimster
That's actually a pretty great title for a podcast, I think.
Caleb Hearon
It's not a marketer. Fortunately, I'll walk in on our show. Whenever you say the word.
Fortune Feimster
It's good that you're blazing your own way, because no one else is going to come up with what you're coming up with.
Caleb Hearon
You got to come up with big homework. Yeah, I feel like. But then it's. It's interesting because that was the answer for so long as they're like, you got to make your own thing. You got to make your own thing. And then you try. And it's like the. There are less writers rooms than ever. There are less shows getting made than ever. There. No, there's really not an indie film market anymore. So it's just an interesting time to be someone different. Trying to make your own.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
Own way.
Fortune Feimster
But you know, you're doing the exact thing that you should be doing, like having a podcast that highlights you and your sense of humor that's doing more for you than any. Like, you could get on, like, a TV show right now, but it's like one of a gazillion TV shows that gets lost in the, you know, shuffle. It's not what it once was, that.
Caleb Hearon
Medium well, especially for. For breaking or exposing people. More people watch this show than they do. Like, a lot of streamer shows, for sure. I know you know that because you've seen the numbers for your podcast. It's like more people are watching this than anybody's watching network.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. And people will see this and see you and be like, oh, my God, I love Caleb. I love what he does. I want to put him in my show. And then that, you know, it's. It's exact. You're doing exactly the thing that you have to do now because going the way of, like, studios and networks and. And them giving you the breaks is just not it anymore.
Caleb Hearon
When and when. And how did you get your first. Your first special? What did that look like?
Fortune Feimster
Well, I kind of. I kind of went up the pipeline of, like, you started with like a Comedy Central half hour that was like, always.
Caleb Hearon
Those were my favorites. When they were doing those, I truly. I watched. So I discovered so many comics.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
Through that.
Fortune Feimster
Well, that's because that's what everyone did. I mean, you were. You were. There was no stand up worth their salt that didn't do like a, you know, some kind of Comedy Central stand up thing at that time. So that was 2014 when I was like, I started stand up 2007, started last time. I stayed in 2010, started really touring 2010 11. And then 14 was the half hour. So that got people a little bit more familiar with me. And then I started taking stand Up a little bit more seriously, but still not in the way I do it now, because Mindy Project was right after that. And so I was like, oh, I like this sitcom life. This is good. I don't need to work. I don't need to be on the road. This is nice.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
So I kind of was a little lazy about stand up for a couple years. Still doing it, but not hardcore. But I got an opportunity to do the half hour. Netflix decided to do half hours for the first time. It was a stacked group. It was like Nate Ragazzi and Nikki Glazer, Dion Cole. It was a really good group. And so that was where I got on Netflix's radar. And then I was like, well, I've done a half hour. Clearly they're gonna want an hour. And they're like, not right now. Come back to us in a while. So. But it made me work. Like, it made me start taking stand up really seriously. So I got on the road and just like, you know, was just hardcore doing clubs. And then in 2009, it took two years to get them to, like, pay me any mind again. And they asked me to do a radio show for them with Tom Papa for SiriusXM. And they were like, well, if you're gonna be talking to comics talking about stand up as well. Might as well give you an hour. So that was where it all started.
Caleb Hearon
Well, I. I'm just listening to all that and thinking about this girl. I'm just thinking about this person right here.
Fortune Feimster
I love it when you think about girls.
Caleb Hearon
I just want to. I'm thinking about her.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, that. Look at that. I'm thinking about Pretty princess.
Caleb Hearon
Look at her.
Fortune Feimster
Wow. It looks like that is just so y'all know, that is my brother. And it does look like I'm marrying my brother, which is wild with his accent.
Caleb Hearon
Little did she know.
Fortune Feimster
That is a. That's a true wedding gown.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. You look stunning.
Fortune Feimster
Thank you. That's the most feminine I've ever been in my entire life. It was for the debutante bullcrap my mom made me do. It's. I was so embarrassed of it and would not talk about it for years, but when I did Sweet and Salty, my first hour on Netflix, my. My friend was the producer of it, and she was like, you have to talk about this. And I was like, it's interesting.
Caleb Hearon
It's like a whole part of the country does stuff like that.
Fortune Feimster
I know. It's so old school there. You're. Something about trying to be a lady, learning manners. Clearly, it didn't stick.
Caleb Hearon
It all reminds me of Blanche Devereaux.
Fortune Feimster
I know the club.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. My mom made me do it because I talked about it in my special. My family used to have money back in the day. They were the, you know, keeping up with the Joneses type. My grandfather was a very well known contractor. Built all these schools and houses and beautiful places. But he died young and unexpectedly and. And my family lost all the money by the time I. My brothers and I came around. So I grew up broke because my dad lived, you know, grew up in a trailer park. My mom was a teacher, like, very blue collar life. And. But my mom still had the good old. Her good old days were the debutante days. And she kept wanting to get back to that, but, you know, I'm like, we don't have the money to do that. And then.
Caleb Hearon
We're not debutantes.
Fortune Feimster
We're not debutantes.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And then I'd come home and our couch would be missing so she could pay for the party. And I'm like, I'd rather have a couch. Like, can we get that couch back? I don't want to go to this because you had to pay for all the.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Events and stuff. And I don't want to. I'm like, we're broke.
Caleb Hearon
Did you ever live In a trailer. Like a double wide or single wide?
Fortune Feimster
No, my dad lived in one after my parents split. So, like, I didn't live there full time, but I'd go like stay with them for a night.
Caleb Hearon
I'm only asking because we. I also grew up very poor and we. We had a shitty house for a number of years.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
That just like sucked. And. And then we moved into a double wide. And I just remember every, you know, I'd heard people at school, kids who had nicer houses talking about how, you know, trailer park trash or whatever.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And I was like, damn, that trail. A big upgrade for us. I have my own wing because it was, you know, the way it was set up usually is there's like the master suite or whatever on one end, which was my mom, of course.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And then through the living room all the way on the other end of the trailer. I had my own bedroom and bathroom. I was like, I'm living nice.
Fortune Feimster
That's pretty nice.
Caleb Hearon
I thought it was great.
Fortune Feimster
We had. Our house was big because my mom bought it with what was left of her, you know, inheritance money. But it was like an old house that was built like 1897. Everything was falling apart inside of it. It was haunted for sure. And like, we couldn't afford to heat it and cool it. So I remember friends spent the night in high school and they're like, oh my God, like summertime. They're like, get me out of here.
Caleb Hearon
We're not coming over no more.
Fortune Feimster
They basically were like, never again. I had like two fans on. Everyone. Everyone's just sweating and these old ass houses are, you know, even though they're big, it was just falling apart. It's like the Money Pit house.
Caleb Hearon
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Fortune Feimster
Yeah, I'll go a couple times a year.
Caleb Hearon
My.
Fortune Feimster
My family still lives out there, so I'll go visit.
Caleb Hearon
So. I love North Carolina.
Fortune Feimster
I know. It's nice. I'm from a really cute little town that was very boring and kind of dead when I was growing up. But it's like totally revitalized. People love living there. It's cute. It's a really cute area.
Caleb Hearon
What revitalized it, do you know?
Fortune Feimster
I know exactly what did it. They started selling liquor.
Caleb Hearon
That'll do it.
Fortune Feimster
That'll do it.
Caleb Hearon
Hey. There you go.
Fortune Feimster
It was a dry town when I was growing up. So, you know, nice restaurants like Chili's won't come in there. They're not gonna. No one's gonna open a restaurant if they can't sell alcohol, because that's where they make all their money.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
So there was just nothing, like, cute or cool or anything to, like, attract people. And then when I was in college, they passed. They called liquor by the drink. And my mom was part of the. The group that. That was trying to get it passed.
Caleb Hearon
I know. That's right.
Fortune Feimster
My mom was like, we need alcohol.
Caleb Hearon
That's right.
Fortune Feimster
Belmont's dying. We got. We got to get that liquor in here. And she. Their group, like, shuttled people from the Belmont Abbey College to go vote. Like, they were hardcore.
Caleb Hearon
They're like, we're getting this done.
Fortune Feimster
And all the Baptists were like, this is the devil. Like, you can't do it. And it saved our. I mean, it really changed our whole town. It made all these cute little restaurants come in. The Jonas Brothers, their dad opened a restaurant there. I think he just sold.
Caleb Hearon
In Belmont.
Fortune Feimster
In Belmont. He's, like, from that area or his mom or something grew up in the area. I'm not sure which of the family. The grandmother still lives there.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Or did live there. I think she might have passed. But, yeah, they opened up the first like. Or, no, the second really cute restaurant in town. And, I mean, I think the Jones Brothers came and, like, sang there. They had. Because it was one of those places where you would eat, but there was also a stage and people would perform.
Caleb Hearon
Just eating at the Jonas Brothers dad's restaurant while they're in the corner. That is so funny. Where is Belmont in relation to, like, Boone or Raleigh?
Fortune Feimster
It's right outside of Charlotte.
Caleb Hearon
Okay, Right, gotcha.
Fortune Feimster
So we are on the other side of the airport. We're almost closer to the airport than. Than actual Charlotte is.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, I've been through there, then. Yeah, I've been through there. I love North Carolina. Anytime I get a chance to go. Yeah, I just love it down there.
Fortune Feimster
It's nice folks, you know, good manners.
Caleb Hearon
You think you'd ever move back over there?
Fortune Feimster
I had a house there for a minute.
Caleb Hearon
In Belmont or.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, in Belmont. Thinking I would spend a lot of time there, and I just got. I'm just so busy.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
I never got home, so I don't know. It's like one of those Hallmark movie thoughts of, like, wouldn't this be cute? Like, big city girl goes back home to live. And it's never like that. It's like, well, where's your wife from? She's from Michigan, outside of Detroit.
Caleb Hearon
Michigan's a pretty nice place to. Yeah, if you were going to do another place.
Fortune Feimster
They got all those Great Lakes, so.
Caleb Hearon
It'S pretty up there. Yeah. And it's like the climate refuge. Like, when. When everything's weird on the coast, it's going to be.
Fortune Feimster
There's nothing crazy there except it gets cold, but they don't have. Yeah, all the weather stuff.
Caleb Hearon
And your wife's name is Jax.
Fortune Feimster
It's Jacqueline, but she goes by Jack.
Caleb Hearon
And y'all met and did you meet at Chicago Pride or.
Fortune Feimster
We did, yeah.
Caleb Hearon
How did y'all. How did that happen? How did you guys meet?
Fortune Feimster
It was. Yeah, Pride weekend. They have this lesbian event in the parking lot.
Caleb Hearon
You know.
Fortune Feimster
You know those lesbians? Well, there's, like, all. No, like, you know, there's like, eight lesbian bars in the whole country. Yeah, that's it.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
So we're relegated to the parking lot. And they. It's called Backlot Bash. They do this thing every year. And all the lesbians in Chicago descend upon this parking lot.
Caleb Hearon
Gotta be at, like, 3pm If I know lesbians, Caleb. Yeah, I know.
Fortune Feimster
Cause one hour.
Caleb Hearon
Here's one hour of the day you're getting these folks out of the house.
Fortune Feimster
It is. It is an afternoon situation. And I knew them because I had done a show there a couple years prior, and I had a show in Minneapolis night before. They were like, come through. And I was single. I was like, why not? What do I have to live for?
Caleb Hearon
Why not go to the lesbian parking lot and see what's there for me?
Fortune Feimster
Just, like, fishing. Yeah, let's go fishing in Chicago. And, yeah, I met her, like, right away. She came up with a girl that her friend wanted a picture, and I'm happy to take pictures. And we just started chatting and kept running into each other all night and just sort of blossomed from there. I never thought that would be how you could meet someone.
Caleb Hearon
That is one of the cutest things I've ever heard.
Fortune Feimster
Because before her, I mean, I, you know, I dated some. Some lovely girls, but also dated some duds. And I just didn't know, like, how to meet a quality person. And I was getting kind of exasperated with dating and was kind of ready to just, like, take a break from it. And it was always like, how am I going to meet a quality person? And she just walked up.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And not only quality person, but also, I'm assuming by that point, just being on the road so much and Having a job that takes you away so much is like, yeah, all right, well, even if I do meet someone quality, how am I going to build a thing?
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, for sure. And, you know, the first few years we were together, she was on the road with me a lot. She. She ended up moving to la and after a year of dating, so we were both, you know, we were together but on the road a ton. And in the last couple years, she's like, go, go do your thing. Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
She's like, I'm all good. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
You get. You think the road's cool and fun, and until after a while you're like, this is enough.
Caleb Hearon
But it stops being so charming. Especially on those days when you have to. When you're going in just in time to get to the venue.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And then you wake up and just truly straight away leave. It's like. Like you were technically in Tulsa, but nothing to show for it.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. You're lucky to go to, like, one coffee shop and like, maybe one restaurant.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
At this point, if you're not the.
Caleb Hearon
Person who's doing the fun show on stage, it's kind of like, whoa, maybe stay home. You go ahead.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. It's funny too, because I. I know so many people that live all across the country. I don't know how, just over the years, meeting different people. And every time I'm on tour, friends reach out. Like, let's hang out. And you want to, like, hang out and see people all. But you're also like, I'm so tired, I don't have the energy. But they. But because our job is so fun, they're kind of like, yeah, well, it's not like you're working or anything.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Going up there and telling your haha jokes, you know, like, let's go party.
Caleb Hearon
Well, also, you're so good at it that you do make it look effortless. So people come watch you for an hour and they're like. They're like, oh, Fortune just had a blast. It's like, well, there was a lot of work going on. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
I'm still writing and memorizing and entertaining it. It's not easy to, like, be up there, you know, for an hour with just a microphone and you're supposed to command the attention of 3,000 people. That means you're exerting a lot of energy. Your. Your output is crazy and you're on a tightrope.
Caleb Hearon
I just, I had a friend, we did a. We've done. We do some two show nights on the podcast tour, and I'm on stage during the podcast shows for a little over two hours.
Fortune Feimster
And that's a lot.
Caleb Hearon
It's a lot. We had a two show night and one of my friends was kind of like, you're really not gonna go out with us? And I was like, I'll kill you. I was like, you cannot imagine, you cannot imagine how I'm feeling right now. I want to be a good time. Yeah, I want to be a good time too, but like, good God, I'm tired.
Fortune Feimster
You tell them all the things you'd rather do than hang out with them.
Caleb Hearon
I'm like, I need to sleep, I need to pack, I need to shower, I need.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, yeah.
Caleb Hearon
The whole thing.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. You can't, you can't keep up that pace and also go out in every city. It's just impossible.
Caleb Hearon
It's not good. Well, I have, I had a question I wanted to ask you, which was if you could. Okay, if you could only choose one. This is, this is North Carolina, like real Sophie's Choice for North Carolina. If you can only choose one.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
Bojangles or cookout.
Fortune Feimster
I mean, I, I know people love cookout.
Caleb Hearon
Oh my God. Not it being so easy for you. Not you being like, I've got it immediately.
Fortune Feimster
It's wild because you literally get like a sandwich and they're like as your side. You can get a corn dog or a case, by the way, or a quesadilla. You might side is a quesadilla.
Caleb Hearon
Side options are like, usually it's like french fries or tater tots in a cookout. It's like, did you want a ham steak?
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. It's like not normal. But I appreciate that they offer that up. I'm a Bojangles gal. I'm a biscuits gal. That Cajun filet biscuit, give it to me.
Caleb Hearon
I know.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. So I'm going, I'm going Bojangles. But I know they're die hard cookout fans.
Caleb Hearon
To me. My, my North Carolina move is as soon as I land, usually in the daytime.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
I'm going to Bojangles.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And then after the show or the whatever late at night.
Fortune Feimster
That's the cookout.
Caleb Hearon
That's the cookout moment. Yeah. That corn dog as a side is going to come in handy around 1am yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Cookout was not near where I live, so I didn't grow up on the cookout, but it's I think near where I went to college. So I had a lot of late night college situations there.
Caleb Hearon
I love that.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
What. What's so true to you fortune.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, God. You know, just living life. Living, laughing, loving.
Caleb Hearon
Living, laughing, loving.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. Live, laugh love, y'all.
Caleb Hearon
Is that what you're gonna give to the people is to live laugh love? Is that your edict for the I, I.
Fortune Feimster
That was the name of my last story was Live, laugh Love. But I stand by it. Because who doesn't want to live? Who doesn't like to. You stop.
Caleb Hearon
Well, if we're getting there.
Fortune Feimster
That's right. You want to laugh and love. Yeah. So that's, that's so true to me is trying to stay positive.
Caleb Hearon
I could see you be. Well, you're a very positive person. I could see you being one of those little old southern ladies who has like just a house adorned floor to ceiling and little signs like that. I know, like when we're in the kitchen, you better be eating or dancing.
Fortune Feimster
I used to like make fun of my mom for those signs. And then when Jax moved in, she was like, what is this? And it was a live laugh love sign. And I was like, that's art.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
She's like, no, that's just words on a piece of wood.
Caleb Hearon
But they inspire me. So now what?
Fortune Feimster
It's wine o'clock.
Caleb Hearon
It sometimes it is wine o'clock.
Fortune Feimster
And I had a giant sign made that say gather. Like that is my decor. Like a home goods. Come on. Yeah, but no, I'm just, you know, I'm. I like to be positive. I like to spread positivity. I know it's easy to get into the, you know, the rut of things and especially with, with the way of the world right now and there's so much chaos everywhere. So I try to stay true to that, to like finding the light, to find what the positive thing is in a situation. I just think it helps me get through these kind of times. And that's what I try to bring to my comedy is the silly, the positive, the, you know, taking things that can be hard and you know, like in my, my special sweet and salty, I talk about coming out. I do it in a really funny, silly way. But at the, at the base of that is a sad story about someone being afraid their family was going to disown them. So I try to take these topics that are a little tougher but like, what's the, what's the silver lining there?
Caleb Hearon
So, yeah, yeah, I think it's also like, I just, I, I really appreciate that because I feel like I, I feel like I, like kindness is important to me, but I have no problem being a little like edgier or More like intense about my opinions or whatever.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
But I'm like, that's the thing about any group of people. Like, there's a lot of us doing things a lot of different ways. And I like. I just like that there's so many different. Like, I could never stay as positive as you are all the time. And I love it. Like, I love seeing you on my timeline because I'm like, oh, that feels. It's so fortune.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And it's so nice to just feel that back towards me and to be like. It feels just like. I don't know, it feels like a form of queerness that, like, I am tapped into sometimes, but I just love seeing it.
Fortune Feimster
I think the reason why I can be in the lane that I'm in is because I'm not putting on a show.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
I'm not pretending to be kind. I'm not pretending to be positive. It genuinely is who I am. I wake up feeling pretty good. I mean, I. I'm very lucky. I know not everyone is fortunate enough to. To naturally see the glass half full, but for whatever reason, I was lucky enough to have that. Just come forward in a. In a very genuine way.
Caleb Hearon
It's your actual disposition.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. It's who I am. I'm like, who I am on stage and off stage are pretty similar.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
I'm not just like, you know, let's be positive. And then I'm like, don't look at me.
Caleb Hearon
Pas tower in fear when you come down the hallway.
Fortune Feimster
Nah, that's not it. It for me.
Caleb Hearon
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They do not.
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I'm like, I love them, but they're not the answers person. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
If you knew how their life was running, you would not want them telling you what to do.
Caleb Hearon
Absolutely. I'm like, hey, behind closed doors, that is not your. That is not your person, I promise.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, it's quite a few of those there are.
Caleb Hearon
Where it's. Because they're just people. It's like, that's the thing. Having a million followers on. On Instagram or whatever is like, that doesn't qualify someone to help you run your life or to help you with politics. Like, they're the same as you.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, but that kind of goes with, like, isn't like life coaches and therapists, I mean, God bless them. I love. They're helping people, but sometimes they're the messy. They're messy. Like, absolutely not all of them hashtag not all life coaches, but life coaches.
Caleb Hearon
Though life coaches is a funny one because you're only a life coach when you don't want to get certification. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
You don't want to go to school.
Caleb Hearon
Like, I am a life coach. Like, you can't. Anyone can call themselves a life coach.
Fortune Feimster
That's true. They're like, I don't really want to go get a degree, but I will listen to a Mel Robbins podcast and help you in your life.
Caleb Hearon
I am not certified by the state, but I do have opinions.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. I mean, come to my office. That's essentially it.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Like, do you ever fall down that rabbit hole on Tick Tock where it's all like the. The people trying to give the therapy advice. It's like a girl in her car. Like, let me tell you, the four attachment style. They're like, they're not. They've just a regurgitating something someone else has said. But like, now they're. You're like life coach guru.
Caleb Hearon
That is.
Fortune Feimster
So they literally just max the triple dipper in their car and now they're telling you about attachment styles that you got to go down that therapy rabbit hole on TikTok.
Caleb Hearon
One of the funniest things about the Internet to me right now, I really try not to watch. Like, I don't scroll much. Like, look at what my friends have shared on Insta Stories. That's really where I'm at. But, like, one of the funniest thing is the way that everyone's trying to make their content look casual, even when it's incredibly calculated. And one of the ways that plays out in videos specifically is people choosing to eat. They're like, okay, so. So I was just thinking about it just kind of came into my mind. And then they say something that they've clearly written and planned for months.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And it's like the way that eating has become like. Like a con. A signifier to the audience that I don't care that much about what I'm saying.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
Is so interesting to me.
Fortune Feimster
You know what's interesting to me too, is people are doing a lot of videos just eating. They're not even giving any information.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And it is like the sloppier you eat, the better.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Where they have. Have sauce, like, running on their faces and their fingers.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And these people have like 5 million followers.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. People love it.
Fortune Feimster
I'm like, what? Why? Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
I don't get it.
Fortune Feimster
But I'm not even getting life advice while they're doing this. They're just like, oh, the sandwich I.
Caleb Hearon
Have that you don't.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. Showing it to you on the camera. Huh. And everyone's like, yeah, more of this, please, dude. And we're over here trying to give them stand up clips like idiots.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Us just being like. So anyone got any dating songs? Yeah, yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Here we are trying to write something.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And these people are just like licking their fingers.
Caleb Hearon
Well, it's, it's an interesting. Like, I have so many friends who are. You know, I started in live comedy and then Internet stuff happened afterwards.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And I have so many friends who truly purely came from the Internet and a lot of them have no interest in any kind of traditional media.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
Or stand up or anything because they're like, oh, well, I would make. If I do two brand deals, I make more than somebody acting on a whole season of network tv.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. That's wild.
Caleb Hearon
So it's like I could just sit in my home for an hour and do my brand deals. Why would I want to go work on a really intense network TV show?
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
It's a great. Well, that's the difference between like income and artistry, but like the, the lack of interest in artistry but then sometimes being perceived as artists.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And this doesn't apply. There are so many friends I have that are purely like digital native that are also artists, but there's this weird cross section of people who. It's truly just income for them. And I'm like, oh, that's really interesting. I never thought, like, when I was starting out in comedy, the Internet wasn't really like, maybe it was like that and I didn't know it.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
To me the goal was like, you wanted to get on TV and movies, right?
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
That was like money and you got to make interesting stuff and meet cool people.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
And that was like the thing. But so many people now are. When I do college gigs and talk to some of the college students, they just want to be influencers.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. They want to know like what ticked famous tick tockers, you know, or.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, yeah.
Fortune Feimster
They don't care about Jennifer Aniston or no George Clooney. They're like, ugh. No, know, they're like, Mr. Beast.
Caleb Hearon
If I am out with like a very, like, you know, if I have an actor friend who's been in like a bunch of things and they're really, really talented and well known and we go out, they mostly get left alone. Yeah. If I go out with an influencer friend, it is bananas. I bet it's crazy the way that they get like.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. But you know, that's just where, where it's headed the, the medias. And so that's why I'm just like doing my thing and like, like, if anyone comes to a show or likes the video, I'm just like, thank you, Jesus. Like that I can keep, you know, rolling on this path that I'm on because I don't know how to change it up. I don't know how to. I mean, it took me, you know, I'm still figuring out TikTok. Like it's a different medium. Yeah, I figured out the old way, the studio way and the network way, and now it's kind of this new wild, wild west. But it's, you know, but I'm also the type that is. The more the merrier. There's a lot of seats at the table and there are some comics that, you know, get annoyed by people going up the ladder faster in a different way. And I'm just like, they're funny, they're talented.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
They figured. They figured out a way to do it. Good for them.
Caleb Hearon
Well, and to me, ultimately, it's like, I understand, I understand that perspective. Like, I understand some people who have really grinded and being like, I can't sell tickets and it's really frustrating. I get the perspective, but I'm like, at the end of the day, what you're talking about is people who captured an audience and got them to come.
Fortune Feimster
Out, out and did a lot of work. It's still like, you know, the people that, that are successful on these mediums, like Tick tock, still have to do a ton of work. Those editing the videos and, and capturing the content. That stuff's hard.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, you, you said, thank you, Jesus. And I want to ask you an earnest question, but we.
Fortune Feimster
About Jesus.
Caleb Hearon
I want to ask about finally, you.
Fortune Feimster
Know, me, it's talking about Jesus.
Caleb Hearon
You know, I want to talk about Jesus because I grew up in Missouri. Yeah, it's very similar to North.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, man. Missouri. Really? Every time I drive through Missouri, lots of Jesus billboards.
Caleb Hearon
Very Jesusy.
Fortune Feimster
Very.
Caleb Hearon
Especially down in the southern part of the state. Very. I think it's why I like North Carolina so much. Just reminds me of home. Like, it's very like mountainous and pretty and trees everywhere. Do you. Are you. Do you. What's your feeling on religion these days?
Fortune Feimster
I mean, I grew up Methodist, so kind of the tame version of Christianity. Yeah, I liked my church because it was, I mean, I mean, growing up in the south, you just went to church every Sunday. That's part of the life. The life you live there. That's a huge social aspect of living in a small town. There's a church on literally every corner, it feels like. So that was just a given that you go to church. My college was Presbyterian, but I liked the followings of being a Methodist. At least the United Methodist, they have divided. I don't know if you knew that, but there's a sect that's divided because of the gay. Honestly, the gay stuff is what divided it. The United Methodists are the inclusive ones. So that's what. Where my. My mom still goes to that church. And it was just about being a good person. Be a good person, be good to others. There was always like a nice message. So I took that from that experience. I didn't really want to. I don't go to church. It's not how I. I necessarily. I don't want to spend my time there. I'll go home and go to church with my mom because she. She's like. Just loves having someone go to church with her.
Caleb Hearon
It's her Sunday. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And I'm good at singing hymns.
Caleb Hearon
Oh, I know that's right.
Fortune Feimster
Bless you. No, I don't wanna. I don't want to turn all your listeners on right now.
Caleb Hearon
Too late.
Fortune Feimster
But yeah, I can sing a hymn, but yeah, I. I'm not a church gal, but I. I appreciate the things it gave me. I feel like, you know, morals are important to me. Like, trying to be a good person, that's important to me. Doing right by people. So I take that from my experience with Christianity, I guess. But there's so much about the church that is so complicated. Not that church, but church in general.
Caleb Hearon
Capital C. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Especially being a gay person. You know, it's. It's taught in some religions to hate people based on that. And to that there are others that aren't welcome here. And I just don't believe in that. I don't believe in using religion as a weapon. So I take the good to definitely leave them. Leave the rest.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And just try to a. Be a decent person.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And that's. So I'd say spiritual more than actual real. I'm not religious. More spiritual.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Yeah. It's such. It's so interesting. Like, I. I feel. I feel like Christians must feel similarly to, like, kind of how I feel when people who don't know anything about Missouri talk about Missouri.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
You know, and they're like, oh, those like redneck idiot. Kind of like that. That vibe of tone.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
Towards a place like Missouri or North Carolina, where I'm like. Like, oh, yikes. Because certainly, certainly there are people there who would have ideas that you wouldn't, like if you're a progressive person or a gift person. But, like, there's a whole bunch of people who don't feel that way. And I would say, actually the overwhelming majority of people there are not. Are not the things that you're worried about. They're not racist or homophobic or misogynistic or whatever. But, yeah, the same thing with. With Christianity. You know, I feel like I grew up around some pretty tough opinions.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
About gay people, of course.
Fortune Feimster
Right.
Caleb Hearon
But, like. Like, I don't know, I just feel like most people were kind of like, if you're nice. If you're nice to people, we don't really care what you do.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, that's.
Caleb Hearon
And I'm. That's all I really. That's actually, by the way, all I was asking for.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
I wasn't like, you don't need to wave a rainbow flag. It was like, I don't care what you do. I'm like, that's great.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah, leave me alone. Just leave me alone.
Caleb Hearon
That's fine. I'll take that every day.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, it's interesting because, like, I go on. When I go on tour, I go everywhere and I'll get flack from people about going to certain red states. I got to all the red states. I go to all these conservative places. I don't shy away from it. And. And people will be like, why would you go there? And I'm like, they need someone like me, like you, more than ever. Like, yeah, they need. They need representation there and people coming in telling other stories besides the echo chamber that's in that. That part of town. Because there are people like us when we were young that could have really benefited from hearing someone's story like us that we didn't have access to.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
Luckily, there's more access now as far as, you know, online and TV and whatnot. But, you know, I. I didn't come out till I was 25 because I didn't see myself represented in anything. I couldn't look at someone else's story and be like, oh, wait, I feel that I didn't know how to put what I was feeling into words. Like, what is this that I'm experiencing? Where I think I'm this one thing. But I don't. I don't want to admit it because it's pretty scary because these, you know, people are telling me it's bad, but it can't be bad, but there's no one showing you the way. Yeah. And so I like that, that response. I guess it's a responsibility of just sharing your story of, like, going in these places that need other people to hear a different story than, you know.
Caleb Hearon
The ones around them and just unlocking, like, a possibility. Like, I feel like I didn't know an openly gay adult until I was in my 20s. And the only narrative I had was either from TV, which was extremely slim and stereotypical, or from church, which was even slimmer and hateful. Yeah. And so, yeah. Just to know that a gay person could, like, pay their bills and hang out with their friends or just like be a normal person who had a happy life, like, that was a surprise to me. I didn't know. Know that.
Fortune Feimster
Same here.
Caleb Hearon
I didn't.
Fortune Feimster
I didn't know any out gay people either till I moved to la. And. And that seems crazy to me, you know, in hindsight, but I remember watching the L Word for the first time and people were like, oh, that was so sexy. I'm like, yeah, it was so sexy. But I was into the fact that they were just a bunch of lesbians were having a coffee together, you know, Like, I thought that was great. I was so pumped about that.
Caleb Hearon
Like, you know what turned me on? When they hung out at the park, that latte.
Fortune Feimster
They were drinking together. Just being gay. Gay, gay drinking lattes. Yeah. You just want to see normalcy like that. Like that their life is not that much different than anybody else's life.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. They're just allowed to be happy and regular. It's like, it doesn't have to be some big extravagant, like. And sometimes it is, but like, it doesn't always have to be like, literally waving a flag and be like, accept me. Sometimes it's like, no, I have to go get groceries.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
Just going to coffee, actually.
Fortune Feimster
Sure. Like, or. Or some big scary thing that it's been made out to be by the people that. Against it.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
You know, it's just people living their lives.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
That just, you know, want to be happy and want to. I want to freaking have love. That's what's at the basis of it. It's just like people that just want to love and be loved. That's no different than. Than any straight person I know.
Caleb Hearon
That was a really big thing that when I was in college, I ran in, like, different circles. Like, I had, like, my friends that were very like, kind of conservative fraternity, sorority life people. And then I had my friends that were Most of my friends were very artsy, like, creative types. And there was this. I remember this guy in town who ran, like, a Christian coffee shop or something.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, love. A Christian.
Caleb Hearon
A Christian coffee shop. And he was an out gay guy.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, really?
Caleb Hearon
Well, it doesn't. It's not a good story.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, no. He was. He was in there converting everyone back to. It was conversion therapy.
Caleb Hearon
He was an out gay guy whose thing was like. Like, everyone praised him. Like, all the Christians loved him because they were like, he's gay, but he's chosen celibacy because he knows it's not right. And I was like, I just don't.
Fortune Feimster
Understand you, like, drank the coffee.
Caleb Hearon
I was like, get it out.
Fortune Feimster
Get it out.
Caleb Hearon
This is not the L word latte. I was promised. I want the L word lattes where everyone turns lesbian. Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
That.
Caleb Hearon
I was like, a religion based on love. Like, praising someone for not allowing themselves. I was like, yeah.
Fortune Feimster
There were some. So pumped that he was denying himself.
Caleb Hearon
Loved it.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
That's. They're like. They found this, like, trick code, like, you can be gay and Christian and we're cool with you. There's only one catch. You have to be absolutely miserable.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. You have to suppress every happy thing about yourself. Yeah. Oh, gosh. That's no way to live.
Caleb Hearon
No.
Fortune Feimster
You know, I imagine if we were to circle back with this guy, don't you think he's probably.
Caleb Hearon
Something's probably going on. By the way, the coffee, because ultimately, that's a gay barista. You know what I mean? Like, he's still. He had that gene.
Fortune Feimster
He can't hide that part of himself.
Caleb Hearon
You can't hide how well that latte comes out.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah. He's still. And God, he makes a mean casserole.
Caleb Hearon
God, I bet he does. Fortune, we have a segment for you. This is the true or false segment. All right. Okay. Now I'm Gonna read you 15 statements.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
You're gonna tell me as quickly as you can if you think what I said is true or false. If you get 10 or more correct, we're going to give you US$50, which could change everything.
Fortune Feimster
Which I could buy one of those L word lattes.
Caleb Hearon
Exactly correct. And only one in la. Okay. Newborn baby koalas are the size of a jelly bean.
Fortune Feimster
True.
Caleb Hearon
That is true. Peanut butter can be converted into diamonds.
Fortune Feimster
False.
Caleb Hearon
It's true. Will Ferrell's legal first name is Willard.
Fortune Feimster
False.
Caleb Hearon
False. It's John. Jupiter is the same size as the sun.
Fortune Feimster
False.
Caleb Hearon
False. Belmont, North Carolina, was named after August Belmont, a New York banker.
Fortune Feimster
True.
Caleb Hearon
That is true. Each year. Each year the moon moves closer to the Earth by 4 centimeters.
Fortune Feimster
True.
Caleb Hearon
False. It's moving away. Oh, a lemon contains more sugar than a strawberry.
Fortune Feimster
True.
Caleb Hearon
That is true. Peace College was originally called the Peace Street School.
Fortune Feimster
False.
Caleb Hearon
It was the Peace Institute. Snakes can see with their eyes closed.
Fortune Feimster
True.
Caleb Hearon
It is true. Facebook is older than ebay.
Fortune Feimster
False.
Caleb Hearon
False. The state beverage of North Carolina is bourbon.
Fortune Feimster
False.
Caleb Hearon
False. It's. Do you know what it is?
Fortune Feimster
No. Cheer wine.
Caleb Hearon
It's milk.
Fortune Feimster
Milk. God, I should have known.
Caleb Hearon
In France, it's illegal for employers to send emails outside of work hours.
Fortune Feimster
True.
Caleb Hearon
That is true. Laura Linney is a certified skydiving instructor.
Fortune Feimster
True.
Caleb Hearon
That's false. Oh, the tiny pocket in jeans was made for pocket watches.
Fortune Feimster
True.
Caleb Hearon
That is true. Bullfrogs never sleep.
Fortune Feimster
False.
Caleb Hearon
It's true. How'd she do? One of the best we've had in a while.
Fortune Feimster
Wow. And I almost got the last one. I changed in my mind at the last second.
Caleb Hearon
You. The 11's are really small. Almost had 12 performance. That was killer. I'm like a little in awe right now.
Fortune Feimster
I feel pretty good about myself. It's hard to think that fast.
Caleb Hearon
It is. And the questions are all so tricky.
Fortune Feimster
And honestly, you have a 5050 shot.
Caleb Hearon
You really do. Fortune, it's been such a treat to have you.
Fortune Feimster
Oh, what a treat to be on your podcast, talking with you. I love to watch you. You're such a delight.
Caleb Hearon
I'm such a fan. As you know, same. Is there anything you want to tell the people where they can find you, get tickets, etc?
Fortune Feimster
Well, I am on this brand new tour that will go for a while. Tons of cities have just been announced and a lot more cities are coming. FortuneFemster.com for that stuff and online on the socials and if you like, stand up. I have three specials on Netflix, so check those out. Crushing it being the latest one.
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
Fortune Feimster
And the Handsome Pod, if you like.
Caleb Hearon
And the Handsome Pod with Tiggin May.
Fortune Feimster
Yeah.
Caleb Hearon
We love you. Thank you for doing it.
Fortune Feimster
I love you, bud. Thanks for having me.
Caleb Hearon
That was a hit gum podcast. Hey, I'm Tony Hale. I'm Matt Oberg.
Fortune Feimster
And I'm Kristen Schall.
Caleb Hearon
And we're gonna be hosting the new podcast, the Extraordinarians, where we are going to be interviewing extraordinary people doing extraordinary things. Things that we have never and probably will never do. We talked to people who have broken records on slack lines suspended by hot air balloons. We're talking to people who have done multiple flips on trampolines. You'll have to tune in to find out how many flips they did.
Fortune Feimster
Subscribe to Extraordinarians on Spotify, Apple Podcast, Pocket Cast, or wherever you get your podcast and watch video. God. There's new episodes that we release it every Wednesday.
Caleb Hearon
We do. I've never seen you cry before. I know. I don't know why. This is upsetting for all of us.
Fortune Feimster
They don't let us break for lunch.
Caleb Hearon
They do.
Fortune Feimster
The podcast is so competitive. They make you just talk and talk.
Caleb Hearon
Guys, we're watching a spin out.
Fortune Feimster
Please subscribe. Oh, man. Extraordinarians.
Podcast Summary: “Fortune Feimster Keeps it Positive” on So True with Caleb Hearon
Introduction
In the May 1, 2025 episode of So True with Caleb Hearon, host Caleb Hearon welcomes renowned comedian and actress Fortune Feimster. The episode delves into Fortune’s multifaceted career, personal life, and her unwavering commitment to positivity. Skipping over promotional segments, the conversation offers an insightful look into Fortune’s journey in the entertainment industry, her experiences on tour, and her perspectives on modern media and spirituality.
Career Beginnings
Fortune Feimster shares her transition from a small-town upbringing in Belmont, North Carolina, to the bustling entertainment hub of Los Angeles. At [16:07], Fortune recounts her early struggles, stating, “I was terrible at being a personal assistant… it got me out here. It was like that catalyst.” Her move was instrumental in shaping her career, leading her to take improv classes and eventually joining the Groundlings, which paved the way for her breakthrough in comedy.
Comedy and Acting
Fortune’s passion for comedy is evident as she discusses her initial foray into stand-up and her eventual success on platforms like Last Comic Standing and Netflix. At [17:30], she explains, “Once she [Chelsea Lately] said yes, it was off to the races. That’s when everyone started to say yes.” Her first comedy special, Sweet and Salty, is highlighted as a pivotal moment where she began to take her stand-up seriously, blending humor with personal narratives about coming out and family dynamics.
Personal Life and Relationships
A significant portion of the conversation focuses on Fortune’s personal life, particularly her relationship with her wife, Jax. They met during Chicago Pride at [35:23], where Fortune describes their meeting as “one of the cutest things I’ve ever heard.” The duo navigated the challenges of maintaining a relationship while both were frequently on the road. Fortune reflects, “The first few years we were together, she was on the road with me a lot,” emphasizing the balancing act between personal and professional lives.
Touring and Life on the Road
Fortune offers a candid look into the demands of touring, highlighting both the exhilarating and exhausting aspects. At [06:19], she mentions, “But the travel’s hard. The travel part, that to me, is the kicker.” Despite the challenges, she expresses her love for performing, saying, “The stage part’s the cake.” The discussion underscores the relentless pace of touring, managing multiple shows, and the physical and emotional toll it can take.
Representation and Media Landscape
The episode delves into the evolving landscape of media and representation. Fortune and Caleb discuss the shift from traditional media to digital platforms, noting how podcasts like Fortune’s Handsome with Tig and May have amassed impressive followings. At [23:22], Fortune remarks, “You’re doing the exact thing that you have to be doing now because going the way of studios and networks and them giving you the breaks is just not it anymore.” They explore the challenges and opportunities that come with self-releasing content in an era dominated by social media influencers and digital natives.
Spirituality and Religion
Exploring deeper personal themes, Fortune shares her spiritual journey and thoughts on religion. At [55:00], she states, “I did not want to use religion as a weapon. So I take the good to definitely leave the rest.” Fortune identifies more with spirituality than institutional religion, emphasizing the importance of being a good person and fostering positive relationships. The conversation touches on the complexities faced by LGBTQ+ individuals within religious communities, highlighting Fortune's stance against using religion to marginalize.
True or False Segment
In a lively “True or False” segment towards the end of the episode ([62:35]), Caleb quizzes Fortune with a series of intriguing statements. Fortune impressively answers most correctly, showcasing her quick thinking and broad knowledge base. Notable moments include her correct identification that “Newborn baby koalas are the size of a jelly bean” [62:52] and her humorous response when stumped by “Facebook is older than eBay” [63:31].
Conclusion
The episode concludes with Fortune expressing her gratitude and fans being directed to her ongoing tour, Netflix specials, and podcast. Caleb emphasizes the importance of authenticity and positivity, traits that Fortune embodies both on and off the stage. The heartfelt exchange underscores the value of genuine connections and the impact of sharing personal stories to inspire and uplift others.
Notable Quotes
Fortune Feimster [16:07]: “I was terrible at being a personal assistant… it got me out here. It was like that catalyst.”
Fortune Feimster [17:30]: “Once she [Chelsea Lately] said yes, it was off to the races. That’s when everyone started to say yes.”
Fortune Feimster [35:23]: “So we’re relegated to the parking lot. And they... we met right away.”
Caleb Hearon [23:22]: “You’re doing the exact thing that you have to be doing now because going the way of studios and networks and them giving you the breaks is just not it anymore.”
Fortune Feimster [55:00]: “I did not want to use religion as a weapon. So I take the good to definitely leave the rest.”
Caleb Hearon [56:14]: “The majority of people there are not [racist or homophobic]. They’re not the things that you're worried about.”
Fortune Feimster [58:58]: “I didn't know any out gay people either till I moved to LA.”
Final Thoughts
This episode of So True with Caleb Hearon offers a rich tapestry of discussions ranging from career evolution and personal growth to the intricacies of modern media and the importance of authenticity. Fortune Feimster's infectious positivity and candid storytelling provide listeners with both laughter and profound insights, embodying the essence of what makes So True a beloved podcast.