Josh Sharp Returns - So True with Caleb Hearon

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Podcast Title: So True with Caleb Hearon
Episode: Josh Sharp Returns
Release Date: July 24, 2025
Host: Caleb Hearon
Guest: Josh Sharp
Platform: Headgum

Episode Overview

In this lively and engaging episode of So True with Caleb Hearon, beloved gay comedian Caleb Hearon welcomes returning guest Josh Sharp. The duo delves into a variety of topics ranging from Josh's latest theatrical endeavors to personal anecdotes, community perspectives, and interactive segments that engage their listeners. The conversation seamlessly blends humor, heartfelt moments, and insightful discussions, providing a rich listening experience for both longtime fans and newcomers.

Josh Sharp's Return and Current Projects

The episode kicks off with Caleb expressing his excitement to have Josh Sharp back on the show. Josh discusses the intense preparation for his latest show, "Tada," highlighting the challenges of rehearsals, multiple performances a week, and the emotional toll of portraying deep, personal stories on stage.

Josh Sharp [04:23]: "And it's almost a joke because the show opens tomorrow, so I've been in rehearsals and tech and previews. And for a while, as a joke, I was sending to my friends an image of that T-shirt that says, 'I can't. I have tech.' And now it's real. Like, it's become real."

Caleb empathizes with Josh's exhaustion, sharing his own grueling work schedule of 12-hour days involving filming and editing.

Caleb Hearon [05:45]: "At the moment, I am waking up, getting in the shower, getting in a car, and then working for 12 hours."

Show "Tada" and Opening Night

Josh provides an inside look into his show "Tada," detailing the collaborative efforts with director Sam Pinkleton and producers Mike and Carly. He shares memorable moments from opening night, including interactions with cast members and the exhilaration of receiving positive feedback from both the audience and critics.

Josh Sharp [03:32]: "Greenwich House Theater. Josh Arp Tada, directed by Mr. Sam Pinkleton... But I will just tell the audience that Josh's current show, Tada, has at least three jokes that I think about once or twice a week."

Caleb recounts a touching moment from Josh's last tour where Josh acknowledged his straight male fans, making them feel seen and appreciated.

Caleb Hearon [02:15]: "Have straight male audience... they felt seen in that moment."

Personal Life and Relationships

The conversation shifts to personal updates, with Josh proudly announcing his relationship with performer Blake Daniel Blake.

Josh Sharp [23:06]: "He is now in a relationship with performer Blake Daniel Blake."

Caleb shares his support and enthusiasm for Josh's relationship, adding humor and warmth to the discussion.

Tithing and Generosity

Caleb and Josh explore the concept of tithing beyond traditional religious contexts, emphasizing personal generosity and supporting friends in need. They discuss how small acts of kindness, like picking up checks for friends, serve as modern forms of tithing.

Josh Sharp [14:04]: "I set a percentage that works for you, and every month you should give it away... find someone and give them your money."

Caleb relates by sharing his own approach to generosity, balancing between supporting friends and managing personal finances.

Behind-the-Scenes and Handling Feedback

The hosts address the challenges of creating content that resonates with diverse audiences. They acknowledge critical feedback while emphasizing the importance of staying true to their creative vision.

Caleb Hearon [38:49]: "Sometimes people will be like, 'Oh, I don't like when the musicians come on. They bore me.'"

Josh emphasizes prioritizing the creative process over external opinions, fostering a supportive and loving environment for their collaborations.

Josh Sharp [39:20]: "It's about trusting our own instincts as performers and being like, I'm trying to do the thing that makes me feel good..."

Interactive Segments: Telepathy Game and True or False Quiz

To engage their audience, Caleb and Josh introduce playful interactive segments. First, they attempt a telepathy number guessing game, encouraging listeners to participate by thinking of numbers and guessing what the hosts have in mind.

Josh Sharp [53:20]: "Say the number now, listener. Now."

Following the telepathy game, Caleb presents a True or False quiz, challenging Josh with 15 statements. Players can win tickets to Josh's show "Tada" in New York City by correctly answering at least 10 out of 15 statements.

Caleb Hearon [56:43]: "I'm going to read you 15 statements. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if you think what I just said is true or false."

Notable highlights from the quiz include playful misconceptions and humorous revelations, reflecting the hosts' comedic chemistry.

Perspectives on Weddings

Caleb and Josh share their unconventional views on weddings, advocating for simplicity and personal preference over traditional ceremonies. They express a desire to avoid the often stressful and commercial aspects of weddings, proposing alternatives like courthouse ceremonies followed by casual parties.

Caleb Hearon [61:16]: "I do not like weddings. I don't want to be invited to a wedding. I do not want to come to your wedding."

Josh Sharp [62:05]: "It's the perfect wedding. One party, no dress code, no gifts. If you don't come, we explicitly do not care."

Their candid discussion provides a refreshing take on societal expectations, resonating with listeners who share similar sentiments.

Sports Banter: Baseball, Soccer, and Football

In a spirited segment, Caleb and Josh debate their preferences for different sports, critiquing the narrative structures and cultural aspects of baseball, soccer, and football. Their banter highlights their personalities and adds a relatable layer to the conversation.

Caleb Hearon [64:53]: "Specifically baseball, by the way. Way."

Josh Sharp [65:31]: "It's war. It's not narrative. It's war."

Their humorous exchange underscores the duo's ability to discuss varied topics with wit and depth.

Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

As the episode winds down, Caleb and Josh reflect on the importance of community, love, and authenticity in their creative endeavors. They reiterate their commitment to creating content that feels true to themselves and meaningful to their audience.

Josh Sharp [38:24]: "It's process over product... It's all about how it feels to us and the people who made it."

Caleb Hearon [40:24]: "That's really beautiful. I want to adopt that."

Their heartfelt conclusion leaves listeners with a sense of camaraderie and inspiration, encapsulating the essence of So True with Caleb Hearon.

Notable Quotes

Josh Sharp [04:23]: "And now it's real. Like, it's become real."
Caleb Hearon [40:27]: "That's really beautiful. I want to adopt that."
Josh Sharp [65:31]: "It's war. It's not narrative. It's war."
Caleb Hearon [67:57]: "It's good to be hot in the summer."

Conclusion

"Josh Sharp Returns" is a testament to the dynamic chemistry between Caleb Hearon and Josh Sharp. Through a blend of humor, personal insights, and interactive fun, the episode offers a comprehensive look into their lives, creative processes, and shared values. Whether discussing the intricacies of theatrical productions or engaging listeners in playful games, Caleb and Josh deliver a memorable and heartfelt conversation that underscores the essence of authenticity and community in the world of podcasting.

Listen to the full episode on Headgum to enjoy the complete conversation and all its delightful moments.

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[00:02]
Caleb Hearon
This is a Headgun podcast, I'm scared to say, because it's so far off. What do you want to try and guess? Hold on, I'm thinking of another.
[00:10]
Josh Sharp
No, now you do it. Now you do it.
[00:12]
Caleb Hearon
Okay, I'm thinking.
[00:12]
Josh Sharp
Send it to them.
[00:13]
Caleb Hearon
And this is for listening, y'.
[00:14]
Josh Sharp
All. Thought inside baseball musicians was bad listener.
[00:22]
Caleb Hearon
Joshua Cassandra Sharp.
[00:25]
Josh Sharp
Here we are. Caleb. Caleb. He a Ron. Everyone's saying it wrong.
[00:29]
Caleb Hearon
They are saying it wrong. He.
[00:30]
Josh Sharp
You start with your pronouns, he and then a Ron.
[00:33]
Caleb Hearon
A Ron. Yes.
[00:35]
Josh Sharp
Me, me. When somebody goes, that's Ronald Weasley. No, He, a Ron. He a Ron. Is that a joke? Was that even a joke, Y'?
[00:46]
Caleb Hearon
All, we are locked in for Josh's.
[00:47]
Josh Sharp
Return, who's a famous Ron. And the first one was Weasley. Sorry to platform the turf and bring up Weasley within 30 seconds.
[00:54]
Caleb Hearon
JK is invoked in the space.
[00:55]
Josh Sharp
I know. Got her. She's an apparition now in the Cor. Turner. You said she's glad. It's a bunch of he hims. She is glad. I'll say that much. She. Her. Say it with your chest is glad.
[01:06]
Caleb Hearon
You say. You say the. You say the he a Ron joke and someone says, are you serious? And you go, no, I'm jk. Damn. We are all.
[01:16]
Josh Sharp
We could end the pod right now, literally. Y' all are so lucky for these last 90 seconds.
[01:21]
Caleb Hearon
Josh. I wish these. I wish these gay people out there listening to us. I wish that they were in. Although I've learned we have straight male.
[01:27]
Josh Sharp
Fans, I've learned that, too, about my fan base in a way that's shocking, but it's there. You know, they're. They're a blessed minority.
[01:33]
Caleb Hearon
What do you think they get from us, these straight? Because I've learned there are.
[01:36]
Josh Sharp
And I know their girlfriends.
[01:38]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. What they get from being fans of us is head from their girlfriend.
[01:46]
Josh Sharp
It's, you get head on. On your birthday. And when you go with me to the Beacon to see Caleb Aaron, when you go with me to see Josh Sharp, Tada. At the Greenwich House Theater, you go get head.
[01:58]
Caleb Hearon
I wish you could have seen Josh at last tour, about 15 minutes into the show when I would say, hey, and I just want to give a special shout out to all the guys whose girlfriends made them come. The number of straight men that would light up like Christmas in that audience to feel seen. And they did. They felt seen. They would go. They would go, yeah, yeah.
[02:16]
Josh Sharp
They.
[02:16]
Caleb Hearon
They felt so seen in that moment. And that's your nice straight male audience.
[02:20]
Josh Sharp
Not to give away a joke in my show where I'm doing, you know, stand up and storytelling with a bunch of slides. But there is a part where I go, be honest, are there any straight guys here? And the slide behind me says straight guys, question mark. And then a couple of them clap and then I go, lord knows why. And I flip the slide and it says cultural exchange and that. And when they are out, like up on their feet at that idea that they are sort of an Erasmus student.
[02:43]
Caleb Hearon
Yes, here. Yes, here.
[02:46]
Josh Sharp
To take in our culture, they're at.
[02:47]
Caleb Hearon
Interlochen learning the delicacies of piano.
[02:51]
Josh Sharp
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Their mom made them go, but they got there and they're sort of like, there's something to this.
[02:55]
Caleb Hearon
You know what? You know what? Yeah. I really love that. Wait, what was I going to say? Oh, yeah, let's just get. Let's get the plug out of the way now because I don't want people to wait until the end of the episode to know you're here because I love you and I'm excited to have you back. Period. At the same time. Period. Full stop. But at the same time, you do have an incredible show going on right now.
[03:15]
Josh Sharp
Why not be here as friendship and also to do our. Our public relations obligations.
[03:20]
Caleb Hearon
Exactly correct. To fulfill those quotas for the people. You're at the Greenwich Theater doing your show tada, which I have seen a work in progress version of and raved about, mind you.
[03:27]
Josh Sharp
And if the fates allow, you'll be at opening night tomorrow just to locate the listener. Time and space. I don't know when this comes out.
[03:32]
Caleb Hearon
This comes out likely Thursday.
[03:34]
Josh Sharp
Oh, that's beautiful. Then the show will be in full swing seven times a week through August 23rd. Moving more. And yeah. Greenwich House Theater. Josh Arp Tada, directed by Mr. Sam Pinkleton.
[03:46]
Caleb Hearon
Mr. Sam Pinkleton.
[03:47]
Josh Sharp
And. And produced by Mike and Carly. The. The oh Mary Gang back together.
[03:51]
Caleb Hearon
Yes. Once more.
[03:51]
Josh Sharp
But for my cum jokes and my pathos.
[03:53]
Caleb Hearon
You have. I'm not going to say, say any of them because of course I don't want to spoil it. But I will just tell the audience that Josh's current show, tada, has at least three jokes that I think about once or twice a week.
[04:04]
Josh Sharp
You love that.
[04:05]
Caleb Hearon
I do.
[04:05]
Josh Sharp
You love that. I can't wait to hear them off air.
[04:07]
Caleb Hearon
I will tell you. Off air. Yeah, I will tell you off.
[04:09]
Josh Sharp
Okay.
[04:10]
Caleb Hearon
But they're really. They're really good, Josh.
[04:12]
Josh Sharp
Thank you, King.
[04:12]
Caleb Hearon
And I'm just a huge fan.
[04:14]
Josh Sharp
So what's going on with you? Come On. Well, you know what's so funny? And I know we're gonna bring in some lobby talk into the podcast space. Yeah. I feel exhausted in a way I haven't felt.
[04:24]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[04:24]
Josh Sharp
And it's almost a joke because I. The show opens tomorrow, so I've been in rehearsals and tech and previews. And for a while, as a joke, I was sending to my friends an image of that T shirt that says, I can't. I have tech.
[04:37]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[04:38]
Josh Sharp
And now it's rit. Real. Like, it's become real.
[04:41]
Caleb Hearon
It is reality.
[04:42]
Josh Sharp
When I say Friday, I hit a wall, and I was like, I've never been this tired in my life.
[04:45]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[04:46]
Josh Sharp
And some of it is just like, oh, I'm, like, doing this. I've never done this type of run where you're doing this many shows a week. And then especially in, like, the preview stage, it's like you're doing rehearsal during the day, and then you're doing the show at night, and you're ch. Change and things in your. And then also some of it not to get too heavy is, like, because of some of the content of the show. And Sam sort of pulling me a little bit from comedian into actress mode of, like, what's it like when you recount.
[05:09]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[05:10]
Josh Sharp
This story of this awful accident you went through or your mom dying, and you're not just sort of outside observing it. You're also sometimes, like, in it, telling it. Storytellers.
[05:17]
Caleb Hearon
As a human being that experienced that literally.
[05:19]
Josh Sharp
And doing that every night of the week, I think it caught up to me. That was like, okay, I get this actor.
[05:23]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[05:23]
Josh Sharp
In some small little way, it's like. It's still. It's still that type of show, but it's like pulling me into that space more. So I. Lately I've been like, damn, I'm exhausted.
[05:31]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[05:32]
Josh Sharp
But in a blessed, great way.
[05:33]
Caleb Hearon
I know.
[05:34]
Josh Sharp
You know what I mean?
[05:34]
Caleb Hearon
Like, if that was the caveat. That's the caveat of our. Of both of our moment.
[05:37]
Josh Sharp
I think every day I'm waking up in my bed. Like, I've never been this tired.
[05:41]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[05:41]
Josh Sharp
I don't know how to do this.
[05:42]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[05:42]
Josh Sharp
And so I make myself lay there for, like, two more hours than I normally would.
[05:45]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[05:46]
Josh Sharp
Because luckily I have that where it's like, you're probably having call times at, like, 4 in the morning.
[05:49]
Caleb Hearon
I'm not getting that at the moment.
[05:50]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[05:51]
Caleb Hearon
At the moment, I am waking up, getting in the shower, getting in a car, and then working for 12 hours.
[05:55]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[05:55]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. I'm. It's I feel similarly, though, where I'm like, I am. And I always. It's so funny because I forget this every time I'm not filming something. I go, man, I wish I was filming something. And then I book a job and I go, how did you forget what this is like? And I love it, and I still want to do it, but I'm like, the brain does do a funny thing where it's like, almost like a. There's an animal thing that has to turn off me remembering what making a movie or TV show is like so that I can want to do it again because of how much I love it.
[06:19]
Josh Sharp
It's the version of that, but it's also new. It's like, I've never. I like, know that conceptually speaking, but I've also never done this type of theatrical run. So it's both like, me turning. You knew this was hard. And also, like, learning every day the way in which it's hard.
[06:30]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[06:30]
Josh Sharp
Also, I swear we're going to tell jokes soon.
[06:32]
Caleb Hearon
No, this won't be funny. I refuse to let this episode be funny.
[06:36]
Josh Sharp
Came in hot that first 180 seconds. Damn. Y' all remember he a rolled you remember he jk. Wow, y'. All. Wow. We came in hot this.
[06:45]
Caleb Hearon
We might play with the order a little bit. You know, we might have chance. Cut this up.
[06:49]
Josh Sharp
Chop and screw.
[06:49]
Caleb Hearon
We might move. Yeah, we might move some of this initial stuff way to the back.
[06:53]
Josh Sharp
God, I wish J Dilla was alive. Think of what he would do with this. The producer J Dilla.
[06:58]
Caleb Hearon
Who's that?
[06:59]
Josh Sharp
No, J Dilla.
[07:00]
Caleb Hearon
No.
[07:00]
Josh Sharp
Oh, God, you're losing fans. Who is that incredible, incredible hip hop producer. You got it. Worked with MF Doom a lot. Worked with a lot of the legendary legends.
[07:11]
Caleb Hearon
Wow.
[07:11]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[07:12]
Caleb Hearon
Wonder if he worked with Tech9.
[07:15]
Josh Sharp
I bet so. But I actually can't recall.
[07:17]
Caleb Hearon
Tech9 is my guy, but my point.
[07:19]
Josh Sharp
Is chop and screw this. Absolutely. In the edit, you'll find the episode.
[07:22]
Caleb Hearon
We'll do what needs to be done.
[07:23]
Josh Sharp
We'll do what needs to be done.
[07:24]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. In rehearsal, we're rehearsed this episode a couple times. We'll put it on its feet. We'll see how it feels.
[07:28]
Josh Sharp
But can I say, to also answer your question, when today is, like, my one, like, day off between, like, sort of two weeks on and then opening night tomorrow, which is, like, a big to do.
[07:35]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[07:36]
Josh Sharp
And they were like, keep it free. And then you asked to do the podcast, and I was like, I'm gonna do it. And producers were like, are you up for that? I was like, this is one of those things that isn't exactly work. It does give me, like, me getting to talk to you is like a buoyant thing that gives me energy.
[07:51]
Caleb Hearon
Oh, Josh.
[07:51]
Josh Sharp
Do you know what I mean?
[07:52]
Caleb Hearon
For real, though, I just feel the same way.
[07:53]
Josh Sharp
Any other podcast would be. No, but I'm like that. I get to sit. I mean, duh, it's like plug Josh Harp, tada.com. but it's like, mostly it's like I get to sit with Caleb for 90 minutes.
[08:02]
Caleb Hearon
I haven't gotten to see you in a minute.
[08:03]
Josh Sharp
Well, you. You've been so busy. I've been so busy. So here we are.
[08:06]
Caleb Hearon
It's nice when we reconnect catching dam up.
[08:08]
Josh Sharp
Who.
[08:08]
Caleb Hearon
Okay for. For the heads. Who is. Be honest and don't mince words. And don't you dare try to skate around this, Josh.
[08:15]
Josh Sharp
Okay.
[08:15]
Caleb Hearon
Who is the most exciting person that is coming to opening?
[08:19]
Josh Sharp
You know, the only. I'm not gonna mince words. The only trouble is we're saying this because of how time works the day before. Yeah. And you know how it is. There's many who've RSVP Yes. And you just never know who is.
[08:28]
Caleb Hearon
The most exciting person. That's R.S.V.P. yes. Come on.
[08:31]
Josh Sharp
That's. Well, honestly, to me personally, of course Nathan Lane is coming, but he's bringing as his guest Nathan Lee Graham, who I love and know for years, but I do believe. I mean, Nathan Lane is legend. We could talk about this all day.
[08:44]
Caleb Hearon
Nathan Lane is mother, father, everything.
[08:46]
Josh Sharp
But so is Nathan Lee Graham.
[08:47]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[08:48]
Josh Sharp
And I want to stake the flag in the ground that I think especially for a certain generation like. Like Nathan Lee Graham as that fucking assistant to Magatu in Zoolander.
[08:57]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[08:58]
Josh Sharp
Is like queer canon. Like there were no funny parts.
[09:02]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[09:02]
Josh Sharp
Nathan Lee Graham is. Is like mother to a lot of people who don't.
[09:05]
Caleb Hearon
Many of us have paid our bills off of playing gay assistant due to.
[09:09]
Josh Sharp
The works of Nathan, who's a legend.
[09:12]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[09:13]
Josh Sharp
I love him.
[09:14]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[09:14]
Josh Sharp
But when I. When I heard Nathan was coming, was bringing Nathan Lee Graham, I was like, well, come on. The Nathan, it doesn't get any better than that. The Nathan's are coming together.
[09:22]
Caleb Hearon
Nathan and Nathan.
[09:23]
Josh Sharp
So again, watch them both wake up tomorrow with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They play because they have chlamydia.
[09:30]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[09:30]
Josh Sharp
It's not even like Covid or something. They're both just like, sorry, we each got the clap. Not from each other.
[09:34]
Caleb Hearon
But it is very serious, Josh. It's very serious.
[09:38]
Josh Sharp
So that's fun. Who else is coming? Well, Amy Ryan's coming and I love her.
[09:45]
Caleb Hearon
Josh, this is a star studded cast.
[09:46]
Josh Sharp
Well, I think she won't mind me saying that we went to one of Nathan Lane's openings. Cause Aaron and I know Nathan Lane and she was a Broadway opening like a year and a half ago, and she was famously in Beau Is Afraid with him. And so we went to this little after party Nathan threw at Sardis. And when I say he was like, I just invited a few friends come by, you know, it's just a couple of my friends. It's like Baranski and Meryl Streep. So they're at one table and effectively the kids table is me, Aaron Jackson and Amy Ryan and Ari Aster being like, look at Meryl Streep, you know what I mean? That's the kids tables. Amy Ryan, Ari Aster, and the stars of Dick's the Musical.
[10:24]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[10:25]
Josh Sharp
So Amy and I really got along that night. When I say me, Amy Ryan, Ari Aster, Aaron Jackson fully are doing the thing, we're at the table and I'm being like, take a picture of me. Just to frame Meryl Streep behind Jeremy. We're like, we're like, we're like fully doing that. Like we're fucking randos in Times Square. Just being like, oh, get a picture of me. And truly just. There's pictures of me in the bottom left corner. Yeah. Just to get Meryl sitting next to Baranski.
[10:50]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, Meryl glowing in the background.
[10:51]
Josh Sharp
Oh, my God. Having Martin. And we didn't say hi. Are you kidding?
[10:54]
Caleb Hearon
Of course not. We're not insane.
[10:55]
Josh Sharp
No, we're not insane. I sit there with Ari Aster and Amy Ryan and we crack jokes all.
[10:59]
Caleb Hearon
Night, just as I'm supposed to.
[11:01]
Josh Sharp
Amy Ryan a legendary, legendary, funniest people. And she was so good in doubt.
[11:06]
Caleb Hearon
Unreal.
[11:07]
Josh Sharp
She was so good in doubt.
[11:08]
Caleb Hearon
Unreal.
[11:09]
Josh Sharp
Anyway, anyway. God, all this name dropping.
[11:11]
Caleb Hearon
God, this is silly.
[11:12]
Josh Sharp
It sucks.
[11:13]
Caleb Hearon
You've changed.
[11:14]
Josh Sharp
I've changed in a big way.
[11:16]
Caleb Hearon
You've changed.
[11:16]
Josh Sharp
Off Broadway, I'll change a girl.
[11:18]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, I tell you what, you're different. You walked in here and you said, where's my tea?
[11:22]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[11:22]
Caleb Hearon
And I said, part Josh.
[11:24]
Josh Sharp
Oh, sweetie, I'm making three figures a week now.
[11:26]
Caleb Hearon
It's.
[11:29]
Josh Sharp
That off Broadway money will change you.
[11:31]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, I'm changed. I'm being different towards everybody. What did I say I've changed about recently? Oh, well, I posted a picture of. I. This was a joke ultimately, but I posted a picture of my.
[11:41]
Josh Sharp
It's all a joke.
[11:42]
Caleb Hearon
It's all a joke.
[11:43]
Josh Sharp
Say that to your listeners.
[11:44]
Caleb Hearon
Say that.
[11:45]
Josh Sharp
Some of y' all are like, this is real.
[11:46]
Caleb Hearon
Oh, they're so serious. My. I've gotten a little. I've read some of the comments on the YouTube lately. Some of our listeners need to stop listening because they've started to piss me off.
[11:53]
Josh Sharp
What kind of stuff are they saying?
[11:55]
Caleb Hearon
They said, my charm has fallen. I was telling you came in here. Someone. Someone commented recently and said, there's no other way to say this. Caleb's charm has fallen.
[12:08]
Josh Sharp
Well, I want to say two things. One, the man is tired, by the way. Okay, the man is tired. But two, I'd love to give you a platform right now to do something quite charming.
[12:16]
Caleb Hearon
Oh, Joshua.
[12:18]
Josh Sharp
That was it. There it was, Joshua. Not so there. It was.
[12:22]
Caleb Hearon
But what was. What were you talking about? Oh, I've changed. Well, I posted my mom on my close friend story. I was going to post my mom on my close friends story. Just a picture of her at lunch being cute. And without even thinking, sort of instinctually, I put the Paris filter on her. I smoothed her. I smoothed my beautiful mother. And if. And she looked good in it. And I posted her smooth.
[12:40]
Josh Sharp
Mothers are God's perfect angels.
[12:42]
Caleb Hearon
I know. I smoothed my own mother who gave birth to me. And I posted. And then I said, oh, Caleb, you can't be smoothing mother.
[12:48]
Josh Sharp
And not on close friends for close.
[12:51]
Caleb Hearon
I didn't even smooth her for public. I smoothed her for like a public.
[12:54]
Josh Sharp
My cousin and five comedians considering her.
[12:56]
Caleb Hearon
Vanity, but smoothed her for you and Chance.
[13:00]
Josh Sharp
That's my clothes that sucks.
[13:02]
Caleb Hearon
I know. I smoothed her. I smoothed mother.
[13:05]
Josh Sharp
When this is done, text me and Chance the picture of her. No Paris filter just to make amends.
[13:10]
Caleb Hearon
Mother, you've been smoothed.
[13:12]
Josh Sharp
I want the raw footage.
[13:14]
Caleb Hearon
You've been struck by a smooth Instagram filter. I really, truly smoothed mother, and I couldn't believe it. And I said, caleb, I don't like this is dark. Where you're. You're headed, that's dark. You're going down a dark path, son.
[13:28]
Josh Sharp
I hope it's Sunday. I hope you're going to church after this.
[13:30]
Caleb Hearon
I went before and I'll be going after.
[13:32]
Josh Sharp
Of course.
[13:32]
Caleb Hearon
I was at church early this morning.
[13:34]
Josh Sharp
Yes, absolutely. I go to the 8 and the 11.
[13:36]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, because you need it a lot of heaven.
[13:37]
Josh Sharp
Yes, I want to go to heaven.
[13:39]
Caleb Hearon
Yes. And Wednesday nights. I know that they see you down there as well.
[13:41]
Josh Sharp
Also, you know I'm doing the collection plate now. Yes, I pass It. I do that thing.
[13:45]
Caleb Hearon
They asked you to stop doing so much with your hips, did they not? Well, with the collection plate, weren't you doing a lot of hip work?
[13:51]
Josh Sharp
The numbers don't lie. I'm telling you. When these. When these other he. Hims be passing that plate, they don't get as much as me.
[14:00]
Caleb Hearon
I considered. I recently. I considered beginning to tithe.
[14:04]
Josh Sharp
Oh. I thought, what if I talk about this? I believe it. I think that's one of the best parts of church. I really do think you should tithe.
[14:10]
Caleb Hearon
I'm like, what if I started.
[14:11]
Josh Sharp
I set a percentage that works for you, and every month you should give it away. I mean, of course, we're leftist, so I mean, like, give it away to, like, mutual aid and stuff. Not to a church, and also not to anything on Axe Blue. But I just mean, like, give it to, like, mutual aid or just, like, give it away. Yeah, just, like, find someone and give them your money. I think is, like, a really good spiritual practice.
[14:30]
Caleb Hearon
Do you know what I did? I started to think about. I was typing an email to the people who need to know that maybe I want to start tithing. And then I said, you know what? Go look at how much money you spent on other people's meals and cars this month, like friends, you know, and just see what the number is. And the number was such that I said, we're gonna put the email off for a month.
[14:48]
Josh Sharp
Well, that's a form of tithing.
[14:49]
Caleb Hearon
I said that. That's my tithing for this month.
[14:51]
Josh Sharp
It is true that one of the greatest times when you're, like, having checks, feeling flush.
[14:57]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[14:57]
Josh Sharp
Is. Is picking up dinner for your friends.
[14:59]
Caleb Hearon
That's the only thing.
[15:00]
Josh Sharp
And we've talked about this because you've picked up some for me recently.
[15:04]
Caleb Hearon
Because I'll do it again.
[15:05]
Josh Sharp
Absolutely. Because I would say we haven't been flush lately, and this shall change.
[15:09]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[15:09]
Josh Sharp
But I've talked about this with friends where it's like. Because there were times I was flush picking up checks. And for those of us in this business, you know, girl, four years. Who knows who's gonna be picking up checks.
[15:18]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[15:19]
Josh Sharp
So we sort of are always doing it to invest in, like, you're gonna be picking up mine in a couple of years. I have no doubt.
[15:23]
Caleb Hearon
You will get me back.
[15:24]
Josh Sharp
You will get me back.
[15:25]
Caleb Hearon
You will. You will.
[15:27]
Josh Sharp
Not just because you're gonna pop off. Because I will fall.
[15:29]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. I will fall.
[15:30]
Josh Sharp
From the charm is down.
[15:32]
Caleb Hearon
The charm has fallen. Olympus has fallen. Truly, there is, like, an acute awareness. I Think Unless you've been, like, very, very, very rich, which none of us are for, like, 20 years. Other than that, everyone that we hang out with, everyone in our, like, walk of life, even when they're doing well, has this awareness of, like, hey, who knows?
[15:52]
Josh Sharp
I got six months at best.
[15:53]
Caleb Hearon
Exactly. It's like, who fucking knows? I'm not counting on anything because you just don't know.
[15:59]
Josh Sharp
So I do think what you're talking about is a form of tithing. But I also think you're not wrong to be considering that and maybe going, oh, maybe I'm not gonna stop picking up cars and dinner for my friend. Maybe the percentage is much smaller than I think, but it's like, I'm still gonna carve out some little percentage that's like, on the. On the monthly. Goes towards something. Yeah, I think that's a beautiful practice. Do you know one of the most flagging. We need to talk about cotillion.
[16:20]
Caleb Hearon
We need to talk about cotillion. Let's get back to Catalan.
[16:22]
Josh Sharp
That's related to tithing.
[16:23]
Caleb Hearon
One of the most accurate things that's ever been said to me is that when I was about to move to Chicago, my dad's. My dad was terrified of me moving to Chicago, partially because he had that.
[16:30]
Josh Sharp
And he said, son, you gay.
[16:31]
Caleb Hearon
He said, son, you gay.
[16:33]
Josh Sharp
Accurate thing.
[16:34]
Caleb Hearon
Well, he actually. Yes, almost identically that I talked about that in the special. But the he said. He said, well, I'm a little worried about you because you're a bit of a good time Charlie. And what he meant. What he meant by that is, even when you're broke, you'll be throwing that card down for stuff you can't. And I was like, oh, he clocked the hell out of me. I was like, I do.
[16:50]
Josh Sharp
Even with your flush, you're backing up on it.
[16:52]
Caleb Hearon
I'm doing things I shouldn't be doing. And that's good time Charlie behavior.
[16:56]
Josh Sharp
Good time Charlie. I'd never heard of his good time Charlie.
[16:58]
Caleb Hearon
You haven't have heard that reason. I want it all the time. Good time Charlie.
[17:01]
Josh Sharp
For some reason, I'm drawn to. I want to be like good time Gary. I want to go.
[17:04]
Caleb Hearon
You want to.
[17:05]
Josh Sharp
But I like Charlie. Charlie is correct.
[17:06]
Caleb Hearon
Or t. Good time. You're a good time Good Time Terry. Yeah, Terry. Oh, Terry's more fun.
[17:10]
Josh Sharp
Good time Terry. Good time or a giannity Good time General Terry. He's in the military. Or is it better. He's doing great.
[17:18]
Caleb Hearon
Or is it better to sandwich. Is it Good time Timmy Generals. Is it like gttg, you know?
[17:24]
Josh Sharp
No, you're right. Good Time Theodore Gash.
[17:30]
Caleb Hearon
Good Time Theodore Gash sounds like the name of a play that I'd be forced to go to in college.
[17:36]
Josh Sharp
Oh, God, yes.
[17:37]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, for. Because Chance was in it.
[17:38]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[17:39]
Caleb Hearon
Good Time Theodore Gash.
[17:40]
Josh Sharp
Good Time Theodore Gash.
[17:42]
Caleb Hearon
Cotillion.
[17:43]
Josh Sharp
Well, we were talking about this off air, and Chance had questions, and it feels related to tithing.
[17:47]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[17:47]
Josh Sharp
First of all, did you do cotillion?
[17:49]
Caleb Hearon
No, not in. No. But I took etiquette classes. It was a different thing. But that.
[17:52]
Josh Sharp
But these are related fields.
[17:53]
Caleb Hearon
Yes, they are.
[17:54]
Josh Sharp
Because Chance said, that's for girls only. And I said, well, then why. Why my he. Him ass be in it?
[17:59]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Well, Chance is a gender essentialist. It's very.
[18:01]
Josh Sharp
Well, absolutely.
[18:02]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[18:02]
Josh Sharp
Yeah. Sorry to bring up JK again. Yeah. Chance and JK over there going cotillions for girls.
[18:07]
Caleb Hearon
Very in cahoots. Yeah. Those two.
[18:10]
Josh Sharp
No, it was. To answer your question, Chance, it was for all genders. And you did learn manners, but you also learned the foxtrot.
[18:15]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[18:16]
Josh Sharp
And then the last week, you would bring your parents in and you'd foxtrot your mom around. Yeah. You do, like, box step with your mom while they played Baby Faces. If I could change the world over and over again.
[18:26]
Caleb Hearon
Yes. And it's beautiful, by the way.
[18:28]
Josh Sharp
It was beautiful.
[18:29]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[18:30]
Josh Sharp
We didn't have a dance component in your universe. As I grind on my mom in a Southern conservative way. You know what I mean?
[18:38]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Grinding in a Southern conservative way is a law.
[18:40]
Josh Sharp
So really something good. I'm like to the left and back, to the right and back.
[18:46]
Caleb Hearon
You know, it's kind of sort of softly gripping your mom's curves on.
[18:49]
Josh Sharp
Absolutely.
[18:50]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Nice, baby. If I could tell them.
[18:54]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[18:54]
Caleb Hearon
Is there singing. Is there a singing aspect of your career coming up?
[18:58]
Josh Sharp
Career? I hope not in this show, but, yeah, I couldn't. It was hard enough on the Voice to do this show where I'm just talking at my pace.
[19:07]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[19:07]
Josh Sharp
You know.
[19:08]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[19:10]
Josh Sharp
But it would be fun to sing again.
[19:12]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[19:12]
Josh Sharp
You know what I mean?
[19:13]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[19:14]
Josh Sharp
Are you. Do you think there's a singing phase in your career?
[19:16]
Caleb Hearon
No, I couldn't possibly.
[19:19]
Josh Sharp
Well, not to bring up something on it from another podcast, and we'll do this briefly and move on a bit. We'd been saying for years that Bowen and Matt finally said on the podcast in a way that was like, okay, well, now this is going to be real. Is. We're like, the four of us will do a concert tour one One day and call it for the tour. Yeah. Rhyme easy and do everyone sings at all times.
[19:37]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[19:38]
Josh Sharp
There's never one voice.
[19:39]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. I can't imagine.
[19:40]
Josh Sharp
I think that will actually happen and maybe in the next year, because it's. Now they've like, staked it and they're like, we're really doing this. And we've always joked about it, but known we were really doing it. But it was a secret.
[19:49]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[19:49]
Josh Sharp
And now they said it to their fans. They're like, in the comments, like, when is for the tour? So I do think I'll do that.
[19:56]
Caleb Hearon
I can't imagine that it wouldn't happen. Number one. And number two, I can. I can already, like, of the four of you, I'm like, matt's gonna have a ball. Like, all four of you, of course, will have a blast, but Matt's going to have a ball also.
[20:11]
Josh Sharp
And then relatedly, one year, and I don't know when is the right year, but Aaron and I need to do Dick's the Movie, the concert, Easily, you know, Or Dick's the Musical. The concert.
[20:18]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[20:19]
Josh Sharp
Like, that needs to happen. But we need to give it enough time to sort of feel like it's.
[20:22]
Caleb Hearon
Well, you need to start booking guest acts now, because you need to get on. You need to get on Megan's calendar. You need to get all the special folks in there.
[20:29]
Josh Sharp
Yeah. And we'll do it at Hollywood Cemetery.
[20:31]
Caleb Hearon
Yes, of course.
[20:32]
Josh Sharp
In the middle of winter.
[20:33]
Caleb Hearon
Yes, of course. Easily. It's. Winter's fine out there. That's part of the whole thing.
[20:36]
Josh Sharp
That's true. God. Yeah. I wasn't thinking. I thought that was a joke, but it's not. It was really good. Producer.
[20:41]
Caleb Hearon
But produce, people forget you're a producer. Pga. Give him a ring.
[20:46]
Josh Sharp
But how about. But how about you? You gonna sing?
[20:48]
Caleb Hearon
No. Josh. No. I'm too shy. And I couldn't. I couldn't go ahead. I don't know. I just think that maybe someday. No. I don't know. You know, we'll see what happens. I'm mostly invested in coming to your shows, hanging out with you, following you around the country.
[21:06]
Josh Sharp
Me, too.
[21:07]
Caleb Hearon
I'll be it for the tour. Every night.
[21:08]
Josh Sharp
I'm invested in going, doing set visits with you.
[21:11]
Caleb Hearon
Come on over. Come on over to premieres. Yes.
[21:15]
Josh Sharp
Reading my tickets. Oh, I'm in the overflow room. That's okay.
[21:18]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Yeah, I'm doing it.
[21:19]
Josh Sharp
That's all right. I'll see Caleb at the party.
[21:21]
Caleb Hearon
I'm putting you in the overflow room. You. You.
[21:23]
Josh Sharp
It's okay.
[21:23]
Caleb Hearon
You'll get your pass at the end. It's not the party pass. I will tell you. There's only been one time. There's only been one time that someone has asked me to come to their show, like their concert, and I've come and then I realized that I didn't have the special pass, that they just, like, ga'd me and that I was.
[21:37]
Josh Sharp
Like, I have one of those two. And I'll say off air what it was because it's so funny, but I can't put it on the record. Yeah, I can't put it on.
[21:43]
Caleb Hearon
Tell me off air what it was.
[21:44]
Josh Sharp
But please remind us. Chance, off air. God, I love to do this stuff to tantalize the people.
[21:48]
Caleb Hearon
Oh, they hate it. They hate it.
[21:51]
Josh Sharp
They hate it.
[21:51]
Caleb Hearon
They hate it. They're not into it at all.
[21:53]
Josh Sharp
But don't forget we're charming.
[21:54]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Well, your charm has lifted, my king.
[21:57]
Josh Sharp
Absolute.
[21:57]
Caleb Hearon
It has not fallen.
[21:58]
Josh Sharp
Take a bath. What's mine is yours. Take a bath in my charm.
[22:04]
Caleb Hearon
Oh, my gosh. We haven't even.
[22:05]
Josh Sharp
IMDb charm meter. Mine's rising.
[22:07]
Caleb Hearon
Theodore Charmer over here.
[22:08]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[22:09]
Caleb Hearon
General Theodore Charmer. Yeah. We haven't even told the listeners about our beautiful day together that we had.
[22:14]
Josh Sharp
Oh, the one in the park. Yes, with our plus ones.
[22:17]
Caleb Hearon
Yes, with our plus ones.
[22:18]
Josh Sharp
I love dear plus one.
[22:19]
Caleb Hearon
Your gorgeous, beautiful, lovely boyfriend who I connected with on a soul level, which Chance brought up.
[22:24]
Josh Sharp
Is now the time to drop it or that's something for later?
[22:26]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, I'll read this.
[22:28]
Josh Sharp
We did this as a bit last time. Right?
[22:30]
Caleb Hearon
Josh Sharp's personal life has developed.
[22:32]
Josh Sharp
Yeah. For years, the only thing on my Wikipedia under personal life was read the first sentence.
[22:37]
Caleb Hearon
Sharpe is openly gay and he enjoys reading.
[22:40]
Josh Sharp
Yes, openly gay, enjoys reading. I didn't know this, but Chance found there's an addition now.
[22:46]
Caleb Hearon
So now Josh's. Josh's personal life reads as such. Sharp is openly gay. Citation. He enjoys reading. Citation.
[22:54]
Josh Sharp
Chance, you know what the citations are? One of them is, I think, talking to Z way on Instagram live and Deep Covid.
[23:00]
Caleb Hearon
Unreal.
[23:00]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[23:01]
Caleb Hearon
And now there's a new one with a new citation. He is in a relationship with performer Blake. Daniel Blake.
[23:07]
Josh Sharp
Hard launch. Eleven and a half years in and we're hard launching.
[23:10]
Caleb Hearon
Hard launching.
[23:11]
Josh Sharp
Blake is a performer. Don't forget, I just love replaced Gideon Glick in Spring Awakening.
[23:16]
Caleb Hearon
Of course.
[23:16]
Josh Sharp
Great acclaim.
[23:17]
Caleb Hearon
To great acclaim.
[23:18]
Josh Sharp
We had a good time.
[23:19]
Caleb Hearon
You brought your gorgeous boyfriend and I brought, of course, my friend Leo.
[23:22]
Josh Sharp
I loved Liam. We're in the DMS Being friends, you.
[23:25]
Caleb Hearon
Know, this special boy.
[23:26]
Josh Sharp
He's a special boy.
[23:28]
Caleb Hearon
Album coming out soon. In the next half a year. Ish. I think. I don't know the exact date.
[23:33]
Josh Sharp
And the great straight.
[23:34]
Caleb Hearon
Yo. Yeah.
[23:35]
Josh Sharp
You know.
[23:35]
Caleb Hearon
Yes. A great straight one of. One of our great.
[23:37]
Josh Sharp
Not to make everything about your Alphabet, but it's essential.
[23:40]
Caleb Hearon
Everything is about your Alphabet. And people who don't think so are weird.
[23:43]
Josh Sharp
Sort of first day of like our. And of course, we could do it on this show.
[23:46]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[23:46]
Josh Sharp
First day of like, the crew. I was like, everybody, what's your Alphabet? And then after we did it, we were like, everybody feels cool about that. Right? That wasn't like an HR thing. We liked that. And everybody was like, yeah, we liked that.
[23:57]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. That was nice.
[23:58]
Josh Sharp
It was nice to be like, you know, my name's this and I'm a B. You know, just everybody getting their Alphabet out there was really nice.
[24:05]
Caleb Hearon
Imagine working on.
[24:06]
Josh Sharp
And we were like. And safe space. If it's S. To be clear.
[24:08]
Caleb Hearon
No worries.
[24:09]
Josh Sharp
You're outnumbered vastly. But we. We want to know. And we want to celebrate you for being S, which means you're also a ally and maybe a asexual. I don't know.
[24:16]
Caleb Hearon
We'll see. I can't imagine working on the Josh Sharp show and being upset. You were asked your sexuality.
[24:21]
Josh Sharp
Absolutely. And, you know, we're in theater more firmly. We left the Gowanus, you know, Comedy Canal, and now we're in the equity space.
[24:28]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[24:29]
Josh Sharp
And there's a lot of she Theys.
[24:31]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[24:31]
Josh Sharp
Who are stage managing in the world. You know what I mean? Like, the world of theater is lesbian she Theys. Of course bisexual she. They run theater.
[24:42]
Caleb Hearon
The city runs on their work. If that. If, God forbid, that bicycle gets a flat tire.
[24:46]
Josh Sharp
Absolutely.
[24:47]
Caleb Hearon
These shows will not go on. The stages will be dark.
[24:49]
Josh Sharp
So even if I was trying to, like, find a straight guy to stage manage me.
[24:53]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[24:54]
Josh Sharp
It's like, sweetie, in this town, you couldn't. You couldn't, and God help you.
[24:58]
Caleb Hearon
So now you have to rely on the Brooklyn Bridge.
[24:59]
Josh Sharp
By God, an AC would fall on your head.
[25:02]
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[29:00]
Josh Sharp
You know what I mean.
[29:00]
Caleb Hearon
If that Brooklyn Bridge bike lane is not open, your show is not going on.
[29:04]
Josh Sharp
Say that mama the she they need.
[29:05]
Caleb Hearon
To get over to work.
[29:07]
Josh Sharp
Your. Your population is mostly she they's. And I feel like you've got more than one stage manager listening to this. I bet you have triple digits. She they stage managers.
[29:15]
Caleb Hearon
Oh yeah. And they won't be in the comments because they don't do that.
[29:19]
Josh Sharp
They don't have time.
[29:20]
Caleb Hearon
They're listening in the wings and the. The.
[29:21]
Josh Sharp
They're calling cues on waitress in Bridgeport, Connecticut. You know what I mean? They got cues to call on Waitress at the Pantages.
[29:33]
Caleb Hearon
The closest they'll come to commenting is when they see me in public. They will do this back down, back to. It's. It's one eye contact, big eyes, opening of the mouth, close back down. That is the closest they will come to commenting.
[29:46]
Josh Sharp
Well, that's beautiful. That's all we need.
[29:48]
Caleb Hearon
That's all we need as a performer.
[29:49]
Josh Sharp
That's all I want is big eyes and avert your gaze.
[29:52]
Caleb Hearon
Beautiful. Really, really beautiful. I do love a she they. I do love a she they. They are probably the biggest part of my cons. They're. They're what's going to carry the swing states for me.
[30:00]
Josh Sharp
Absol.
[30:01]
Caleb Hearon
When I run. They're what's going to carry Michigan. They're going to.
[30:04]
Josh Sharp
And are you prepared to announce?
[30:06]
Caleb Hearon
Well, I am 30, Josh. And there will be another election in a couple years that I won't be eligible for.
[30:12]
Josh Sharp
Never too early though.
[30:13]
Caleb Hearon
The one after that I am eligible. And was that a Conor Ratliff bit?
[30:17]
Josh Sharp
Yes.
[30:17]
Caleb Hearon
Where he started running for.
[30:18]
Josh Sharp
He started running for president because he was 35, funny. He is so funny. Also, people need to put respect on Conor Ratliff.
[30:24]
Caleb Hearon
Connor Ratliff is one of the funniest living people.
[30:25]
Josh Sharp
Let me say something that will mean nothing to almost anyone. And yet, and yet, and yet I feel it needs to be on the record.
[30:31]
Caleb Hearon
It'll mean a lot to these two guys because, you know, he's a Missouri boy.
[30:34]
Josh Sharp
Well, yes, yes. So the way the UCB theater worked is that you would, before you got a run for your sketch show, you would do what was called a spank. And that was like a 6pm show. That was like an audition show. You do it one time early and that's what you would do in front of a crowd for them, decide like, do we give this a run or not? But then there was something sort of between a spank and a run where it's like if you were an established performer who maybe, who maybe was like, I don't even know if I'm running this, but I just want to try it. They would give you a slot called the Workout.
[31:02]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[31:02]
Josh Sharp
And it was like maybe at 7 or something. And maybe you were trying it for a run. But it's more like, you know, you just deserve theater space to work on something whether or not you want to run. And we'll give you the early slot. So people would use it for all sorts of things that they were working out. Connor for years used the Workout slot to do a show where he would physically work out on stage and he would do like a 30 minute workout, like Jane Fonda style. But Connor doing it. And then you would always have like two backup people. And it was often me or Aaron Jackson or Darcy Gardner. We were the three dancers. When I say we didn't speak a word and we were just in back mirroring whatever he did. And it was like one of the most creatively fulfilling things I've ever did. Like an in joke on an in joke for an already niche crowd. And he would just do that. But that's what Connor is good at. These kind of things that he's like playing for his crowd hard.
[31:59]
Caleb Hearon
The number of things you were so deep in reference, like the number of things you have to know to understand, it's just insane.
[32:08]
Josh Sharp
That's a mad lib where every proper noun is like, who?
[32:11]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[32:11]
Josh Sharp
What?
[32:11]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, you know what I mean?
[32:12]
Josh Sharp
But if you get even 2/3 of them, that's funny.
[32:15]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, that is so funny. Conor Ratliff is so funny. We all, my little college comedy buddies, chance included, and I We used to, anytime we could come to New York, we would see a Conor show show. Anything he was in.
[32:26]
Josh Sharp
We were like living improviser love. There's like four or five other names you could say, but Connor's one of them.
[32:32]
Caleb Hearon
Adore that guy. I would try to listen to an episode of 12 Hour Day, his podcast.
[32:36]
Josh Sharp
Oh. With J.D. amato.
[32:38]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[32:38]
Josh Sharp
Who I also love.
[32:39]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Hilarious.
[32:40]
Josh Sharp
One of my old school people that we met like when we were UCB students.
[32:44]
Caleb Hearon
Really crazy.
[32:45]
Josh Sharp
Anyway, Connor rules. Connor's been in these streets doing the work.
[32:48]
Caleb Hearon
Connor does rule. Really, really funny. I mean, that's one of the. The. Probably to me, one of my favorite things. You know what I had the other night? I. Friday night? I.
[32:56]
Josh Sharp
Sex with my wife.
[32:57]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Josh, how did you know that?
[33:00]
Josh Sharp
Well, she texts me.
[33:01]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Oh, does she? When we have sex.
[33:02]
Josh Sharp
She's been frustrated.
[33:03]
Caleb Hearon
Well, we've been so busy on Friday night.
[33:05]
Josh Sharp
You've been so busy.
[33:06]
Caleb Hearon
No, my wife does not get touched.
[33:10]
Josh Sharp
Samantha.
[33:11]
Caleb Hearon
Samantha with a T. Thank you to Mantha. Samantha Hieron. I know. I left. I filmed. I left set. I went directly to a show at the Bell house to watch my friends and they said, kayla, why don't you do a set? And I said, no, I couldn't. I'm so shy and I haven't prepared anything. They said, kale, please do a set. I said, okay. On the Late show. And I did a set and I had a great time and the audience was lovely. And I hadn't done a show in a minute since I filmed the special, actually, which was a very stressful version of doing a show and all the shows before that were stressful versions of doing a show. So it was the first time I'd really just been on stage to have fun in a minute.
[33:45]
Josh Sharp
It.
[33:45]
Caleb Hearon
And I had one of those nights that you have in comedy every once in a while. Maybe other people have them more often than I do. I don't know where the fog kind of clears and you can just look around at all these. I mean, it was such a great show. It was like Joe Sunday, Esther Phallic Love. It was Mary Beth Ronan Holmes. It was their show.
[34:04]
Josh Sharp
Come on.
[34:05]
Caleb Hearon
It was an incredible show. And now I'm feeling bad that I might have forgot someone. Oh, Jared Goldstein was on it as well.
[34:09]
Josh Sharp
Literally every single person is perfection.
[34:11]
Caleb Hearon
I know. And it was like. And everyone was so funny and good.
[34:14]
Josh Sharp
Casting, can we say truly. And I don't just mean like demographically, I mean comedically, like a well cast show where those are people who are uniquely Good at the thing they do.
[34:22]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Different styles. And Jerry. Yeah. Jared was there and was so funny. He's in town right now. And it was just one of those moments where the fog around everything that is doing comedy cleared a little bit. And I just looked around and watched all my friends do killer sets in front of a hot audience. And I was like, this is the most special thing in the world.
[34:37]
Josh Sharp
I had a version of that. And I can't decide if this is tacky to say, but we're just. We're just going to say it, say it, and then if afterwards we feel bad about it, you know, snip, snip.
[34:45]
Caleb Hearon
Well, simply, we're good.
[34:47]
Josh Sharp
The shows have been great so far, but because it is like theater, but it is also sort of stand up, like something Sam and I are talking about a lot is like, how much to be a stand up and how much to be an actress. And some of the stand up, like, talent is like, I can work the room in a way you can't always in theater. Also in that theater, because I have a giant screen and it's small, I can see every single motherfucker's faces.
[35:08]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[35:09]
Josh Sharp
In a way I don't necessarily need to, but it's like, so I'm like, very in the room with you. And so we can sort of like, you know, feel the energy. It's like a little witchy. Whatever. So they've all gone well, but they have, like, very different energies sometimes. And when I say the one we did the other week when we were in previews was like the. There'd been many that were like, damn, that one was firing. Hell, yeah. Insanely good. But this one, we walked off and I was like, well, it'll never get better than that. Yeah, like, that's as good as performing is. Like, the crowd was with me the whole time and the energy was electric and some, like, unique, like, of the moment in the room. Things happened and I was in my absolute bag. And then I went down there and all the producers were there in a way where I was like, usually one of y' all come, not all of y' all come. And then they were like, you crushed. And I was like, dude, we crushed. That's the show. And they went. Good news. That was the night the Times was reviewing us. And when I say for theater producers, that's like sports. They're all like, chest pumping. And truly the part that's tacky about saying this and trust, I don't literally give a shit.
[36:10]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[36:11]
Josh Sharp
The Times did not Like, Dick's the Musical. Like, I don't care. They might write a shitty review. Yeah, I totally am fine with that. I actually think most of if your art is getting good reviews uniformly, like, look in the mirror. I like shit that, like, dick's got a pan in the Times and a rave in the Post. And I think that is so funny. So they might hate it, but just the feeling of being like. It felt like sports, but for she, they.
[36:36]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[36:36]
Josh Sharp
Where we were all like. We were like, like, hugging each other and chest bumping.
[36:41]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[36:41]
Josh Sharp
And it was like, not only was it just, like, also, it was like, mostly fun to do that show for the other 198 people. Like, we all walked off being like, this is as good as it is to do this. What a, like, beautiful feeling. And that then on top, they're like, and you won the big game.
[36:54]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you hit the game winning shot.
[36:57]
Josh Sharp
Literally, it felt like that. It felt like I hit a buzzer beater.
[36:59]
Caleb Hearon
Well, because there's just these. There's these moments in your career when you do creative stuff that you do want to rise to the occasion just to see how much juice you can squeeze out of the thing you've been working on. And it's rare that everything lines up, that you have the great night, they show up the way they were supposed to. Everyone agrees that it was great. So that whatever comes out of those people coming, whether it's good or bad, you know, that you gave the best version of it for the, like, just to feel so at peace, I think is what it really is.
[37:23]
Josh Sharp
That's what it really is. And again, the tacky part is. But I don't think we need to cut this. I think I feel okay about saying this, but the tacky part is, of course, you may now look at the times and it will be mid and be like, energy was off. And then you're like, huh?
[37:35]
Caleb Hearon
But.
[37:36]
Josh Sharp
But what's true is, like, all that really matters about the shit we're doing is how it feels to us and the people who made it and how it feels in the room to the people we made it for. You know what I mean? So it's like at the end of the day, it's like, we all know those of us who were there on that night, like, damn, that was special. You know? And so when you have that sort of feeling, it's like, oh, my God, this is why we do this. And it's mostly, it's about just like, trusting our own instincts as you Know performers and being like, I'm trying to do the thing that makes me feel good, that feels most true and blah, blah, blah. And then when that also syncs with their energy and you're like, look at all of us sort of on the same page, like, riding this ride together. Yeah, girl, come on. That's why we do this.
[38:14]
Caleb Hearon
It's so good. And it's also.
[38:15]
Josh Sharp
And it is communal. It's like, I. I do believe I have to sort of like, do what I do. Not for them, but it's like. But when they're fucking with it in the right way, we are like, all doing this thing together. It is witchcraft.
[38:24]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. And it's hard because there's a lot of different, like, inputs that come at you all the time. I've honestly felt that way about this show where I'm like, I think we who are making this podcast know exactly what it is, which is that we're in the room, we feel special about everyone that we bring in. But it's hard because there's, like, feedback. You know, like, sometimes people will be like, Sometimes people be like, oh, I don't like when the musicians come on. They bore me. Or I don't like when you talk. When you talk too much inside baseball with comedians. Or I don't like, like, people have different things that they do.
[38:49]
Josh Sharp
And we're about to bring a musician on, actually, after all this baseball. So this is going to be a rave.
[38:54]
Caleb Hearon
Or they'll. They'll. I'll bring on a. You know, like the two activists I've had on the. They. Someone. And that feedback will sometimes reach you.
[39:00]
Josh Sharp
Literally. My favorite episodes, by the way.
[39:02]
Caleb Hearon
But I'm like, I just think the what the thing you're talking about, like, when you're creating anything, even if something is like, silly and not a cool off Broadway theater show as a podcast is like, yeah, you just got to feel good about it and know that you like what you're doing and be like, yeah, this is going to find in different fragments of this will find the people it needs to find the other thing.
[39:20]
Josh Sharp
And I hope this is inside baseball, but in a sort of way that I think is applicable to every single thing are doing. But I have become increasingly convinced too, that it's like you have to be process over product, by which I mean, of course you need to be like, I believe in this thing. I want. I stand by it. I feel good about it. But it's like the building of it and the making of it. Like, to me, the coven building of this theater piece where it's just like, I want people, I want to go out of my way to like show love and gratitude to these people we've assembled. And I want people who are like feeling good to be in this room making something. And that has felt true this whole time in a way where we're all sort of like squeezing each other's hands. Being like this is like one of those rare ones where we're sort of all like in love with each other and feeling good about it. And like that's all that matters. It's like, who fucking cares? But also that part makes the product better. Yeah, but it is just like, how do you make it that you're like lovingly, you know, like giving all of yourself to all the other people you're collaborating with and trying to have be open for that to come back and just all of you leave at the end of the day being like, wasn't it fun to do that together? Yeah, it's like, yeah, great, great. That's like all it is.
[40:24]
Caleb Hearon
That's so.
[40:25]
Josh Sharp
I do think that's the thing you have to like put as your North Star.
[40:27]
Caleb Hearon
That's really beautiful. I want to adopt that. Yeah, I do. Because that sounds really special. I abuse my staff and I would just. And they're both shaking their heads right now. Yes. Because they, they go through hell and back. But I'm now thinking that maybe I should do it your way where it's actually love and gratitude. Cuz I do. I hit and I yell.
[40:43]
Josh Sharp
Just try it.
[40:44]
Caleb Hearon
I'm going to try it. Maybe I'm going to try. Although we've gotten results out of hitting and yellow. That's the problem, you know, because it's like, of course it sounds nice. We had Kumbaya. We play the guitar, we sing the songs. But it's like I hit and I yell and we make money, you know. So yeah, I don't know, but it is hard.
[40:57]
Josh Sharp
You are picking up the checks. So maybe I should do that. Maybe I should hit and yell. I'm making three figures a week.
[41:04]
Caleb Hearon
I hit and yell. But everyone in this room, sans you who works on this show, they drive Bugattis, you know. When it's good, it's good. When it's good, it's good.
[41:12]
Josh Sharp
A Bugatti in New York City, they what a choice.
[41:15]
Caleb Hearon
They street park because they know I'll get them another one. And I hit.
[41:22]
Josh Sharp
You can't drive it down 14th anymore. That's a bus way.
[41:25]
Caleb Hearon
It's a bus way. They're doing too many de Blasio.
[41:28]
Josh Sharp
Damn de Blasio. I'm still many about that. I used to take my bugatti and cruise 14th street just back and forth.
[41:35]
Caleb Hearon
I know it.
[41:35]
Josh Sharp
From C to 10th.
[41:36]
Caleb Hearon
I know it. That's.
[41:38]
Josh Sharp
That was what actually all that gay. I was saying about being nice to she. They when you work with them.
[41:43]
Caleb Hearon
Thank you.
[41:44]
Josh Sharp
What life is about is being behind the wheel of that Bugatti.
[41:46]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[41:47]
Josh Sharp
Starting in Alpha picture bet city and cruise until you hit meat packing.
[41:50]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[41:51]
Josh Sharp
And then back again.
[41:52]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[41:52]
Josh Sharp
All day, every day, man.
[41:54]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[41:54]
Josh Sharp
And then I drive back to Brooklyn. I don't pay a single surcharge to get into the island or leave the island. Damn de Blasio. Everything up.
[42:05]
Caleb Hearon
Yep. And then Eric Adams is trying to fix it, but they're not even going to give him.
[42:07]
Josh Sharp
They're not even let my guy Eric Adams have a chance.
[42:10]
Caleb Hearon
They're not going to give him enough.
[42:11]
Josh Sharp
Tithe to Eric Adams right now.
[42:13]
Caleb Hearon
Tithe to Eric.
[42:14]
Josh Sharp
What's his. What's his party platform again?
[42:16]
Caleb Hearon
It's like.
[42:17]
Josh Sharp
It's so insane.
[42:18]
Caleb Hearon
His what? I keep seeing signs for it and crack some. Unfortunately, some of the businesses I love in my neighborhood are big Eric Adams people.
[42:24]
Josh Sharp
Sure.
[42:24]
Caleb Hearon
But there it's. His thing is like. His thing is like coming through, showing up or something. Like, what is it? Get stuff done. Get stuff.
[42:31]
Josh Sharp
Yeah, sure.
[42:32]
Caleb Hearon
It's like gar. Name it. He is camp, though. I mean, I will say some of the. Some of the videos he puts out really crack me up.
[42:38]
Josh Sharp
Oh, absolutely. I can't wait to just to be. Be popping into the cellar a video guy, you know what I mean? Y' all are lucky tonight. Former mayor Eric Adams is here.
[42:48]
Caleb Hearon
Oh, I love it. That'd be great.
[42:49]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[42:50]
Caleb Hearon
What do you think?
[42:50]
Josh Sharp
Lisa Trager getting bumped because Eric Adams wants to do 30 and Lisa.
[42:54]
Caleb Hearon
Lisa would love that. She would be very calm about that. Josh, what do you think is the best thing that could happen to you this week?
[43:01]
Josh Sharp
This week?
[43:02]
Caleb Hearon
Like, what is the best thing that could happen in general? Like, the best singular thing you can.
[43:06]
Josh Sharp
Imagine for me because of this week and how tired I've been. 1. I want opening to be slayer. I want to have a great time at the after party. But then I have to do a show the next day. So I'm like, for like Tuesday, Wednesday, I want to get enough rest that by like Thursday, Friday I can do this show. And in the day I'm like, I can go on a big bike ride.
[43:23]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[43:23]
Josh Sharp
Like, that's what I want. Is to sort of be back. I want to go on a big bike ride.
[43:27]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[43:28]
Josh Sharp
Waking up and being like, I have the energy to bike around my beautiful city and then go do my show.
[43:32]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[43:32]
Josh Sharp
That's what I want.
[43:33]
Caleb Hearon
Where are you going to bike? Are you going to wait. Are you going to back it up to the show so you can bike to the show, or are you going to do like a.
[43:37]
Josh Sharp
No, because I don't like to bike at night.
[43:38]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, yeah, same.
[43:40]
Josh Sharp
You know what I mean? So I don't do that. So I couldn't bike in and bike home after. So really what I like to do is either because I'm in Williamsburg, Brooklyn, either go down to Prospect park, do a couple laps, come back. Incredible, by the way, or go north along the river to Astoria Park. Those are my two favorite bikes.
[43:58]
Caleb Hearon
Huge.
[43:58]
Josh Sharp
Or biking. Darice is fun, but half of it is awful.
[44:01]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[44:02]
Josh Sharp
Once you get sort of to the coast.
[44:04]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[44:05]
Josh Sharp
There's like a bike highway. That's cute as hell.
[44:06]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[44:07]
Josh Sharp
Before that, when I say you're. You're like, like, damn, am I in St. Louis? You're like biking on like six lane highways.
[44:12]
Caleb Hearon
You don't like it.
[44:13]
Josh Sharp
Literally. Parts of Queens I've never heard of.
[44:15]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[44:16]
Josh Sharp
And I love Queens and I've lived here 16 years. But they're inventing new parts for you to bike through on your way to Reese.
[44:21]
Caleb Hearon
And. And they're not inventing it with the idea of you biking through it, I'll tell you that.
[44:24]
Josh Sharp
Oh, sweetie. It is adversarial, the relationship between you and them. And them Bugattis.
[44:29]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, them. Street Park Bugattis.
[44:30]
Josh Sharp
Team Wheeler Bugatti.
[44:31]
Caleb Hearon
Hey, everybody. We are Street Park Bugatti. All we need. Get started. Started.
[44:35]
Josh Sharp
That's so good.
[44:36]
Caleb Hearon
The bike highway on the west side of Manhattan that I took when I left you. The other. Most recently, we hung out at the park. I love it.
[44:47]
Josh Sharp
Wonderful.
[44:47]
Caleb Hearon
When it's just a separate lane away from the road and all it is is cyclists and the occasional person standing there for no reason and you just go, move.
[44:54]
Josh Sharp
What's your. Yeah, what's your play?
[44:56]
Caleb Hearon
When they're standing there, I got a.
[44:58]
Josh Sharp
Bell and I ding.
[44:59]
Caleb Hearon
When it's a person standing, I bell. When it's the only thing I'm in.
[45:02]
Josh Sharp
The theater, I can't use my voice.
[45:03]
Caleb Hearon
No, you're saving. The only time I scream. I did it yesterday, I was biking. Is when a car is just turning into the bike lane, I do not slow down. I just start yelling at the top of my lungs. No.
[45:13]
Josh Sharp
Well, sometimes People show the share those videos, and they're like, look at this. And it's like one of the bikers who's sort of aggressively going through the bike lane, like, yelling at everyone.
[45:20]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[45:21]
Josh Sharp
And he's being an asshole about it. But I'm always like, well, he's right.
[45:23]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Also, by the way, cyclists are. I've always said the cyclist community are at the very top of the being. Right. But making your case unlovable by being an asshole about a community. They're at the top of that community. They are. They're correct. And they are not listened to because they're fucking douchebags. However, spend one day biking through your city and tell me you don't feel.
[45:42]
Josh Sharp
The same when you realize it's coming at all sides. Like cars, obviously, but pedestrians, because they're just, like, not aware of you and because you're not a car.
[45:48]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[45:48]
Josh Sharp
They're sort of like, walking blindly in front of you. And I'm like, baby, I hit you. And we both are suffering.
[45:53]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. They're leaving shit in the lane.
[45:55]
Josh Sharp
They're often looking to see if a car is coming, and then. And not clocking me is a bike coming. And then I'm having to, like, throw on brakes to not hit him. And I'm like, this doesn't end well for us either.
[46:03]
Caleb Hearon
Mind you, there's a bike behind me. So now I'm throwing on brakes. They're almost running into me. Everything's bad when that happens.
[46:08]
Josh Sharp
Oh, everything's bad.
[46:09]
Caleb Hearon
I don't yell at people, though. I think maybe once or twice I've yelled at them.
[46:12]
Josh Sharp
It's city's fault. You know, you bike in Copenhagen, you bike in Amsterdam, you go, well, this is how it could be.
[46:16]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[46:18]
Josh Sharp
We can't be neoliberal here, putting it at individual actors. It's systems.
[46:22]
Caleb Hearon
Thank you.
[46:22]
Josh Sharp
It's systems.
[46:23]
Caleb Hearon
Thank you. That was powerful.
[46:23]
Josh Sharp
And that's what I'm here to say.
[46:24]
Caleb Hearon
That was powerful.
[46:25]
Josh Sharp
Your listeners like this.
[46:26]
Caleb Hearon
Well, we've done inside baseball and now.
[46:29]
Josh Sharp
Deep leftist policy about. About bike lanes.
[46:32]
Caleb Hearon
Well, now all we need to do is have you talk about an album you've got coming out.
[46:35]
Josh Sharp
But y' all remember he a Ron. Remember jk? Like, we were coming out, so we came out swinging. And I think your people. I'm not in the comments of your thing as much so, you know, I think they like our vibe.
[46:47]
Caleb Hearon
Me and you together.
[46:48]
Josh Sharp
Yeah. Like the jokes, of course. But I think they see there's a certain, you know, energy. There's a kinship.
[46:54]
Caleb Hearon
And you can Tell by the number of times that both of us are speaking. That's kinship. I mean, for us as gay and Southern.
[47:00]
Josh Sharp
One of the comments that did get to me. Not about your podcast, about somebody else's. They were like, oh, I just feel like Josh, like, talks a lot. And I'm like, well, I'm the guest.
[47:08]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[47:08]
Josh Sharp
You think they invited me here to not talk?
[47:10]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. What would you have me do?
[47:11]
Josh Sharp
My friend loves when I talk trust.
[47:13]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. So you need to get on board.
[47:14]
Josh Sharp
Yeah. Get on board.
[47:16]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Get on board with Josh. I'm on board with Josh talking. That's why I have you.
[47:18]
Josh Sharp
I'm on board with kids, Caleb. And also, two gay men can speak at the same time and both hear each other. It's sort of one of our special talents. Do you know what I mean?
[47:26]
Caleb Hearon
That's what people don't understand.
[47:27]
Josh Sharp
Talking over. And yet I. I just did it to you, and I heard you say, I know everything. Don't understand.
[47:32]
Caleb Hearon
You know, people don't understand.
[47:33]
Josh Sharp
We're just like, we're on it. Yeah, we're on it.
[47:35]
Caleb Hearon
It's a superpower forged. It's a superpower forged from God, given to us.
[47:39]
Josh Sharp
It's four dimensional.
[47:40]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. It's given to us by God. And we. We, of course. We of course foster and culture it, but it was given to us directly from God.
[47:46]
Josh Sharp
Absolutely. Y' all are down on the ground up. And I'm up in outer space.
[47:49]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. You know what I mean? You're so 2000 and late.
[47:52]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[47:53]
Caleb Hearon
Really?
[47:53]
Josh Sharp
Absolutely.
[47:54]
Caleb Hearon
If you think about.
[47:54]
Josh Sharp
I'm 20, 25. Reelect Eric Adams on the. Get stuff done.
[47:58]
Caleb Hearon
Get stuff done. You should run.
[48:02]
Josh Sharp
Run, run, run, run. A5 a Turkey Trot.
[48:07]
Caleb Hearon
There you go.
[48:07]
Josh Sharp
I found it. I have a request. Keep the embarrassing story where I confess to being excited to learn the Times was there, but I want you to cut the part in which I stutter over 5k. So it goes right from run up and it goes directly to turkey truck.
[48:25]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. I. You. You've certainly never watched me do the ads on this show, but the number of times I just completely up an ad and go, leave it in. I'm human.
[48:33]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[48:33]
Caleb Hearon
I've just stopped. I don't. I don't edit them anymore. I'm like, they need to know. That stutter was humiliating. And they need to know. This is like Rosemary's granddaughter. Spitting image of my father.
[48:43]
Josh Sharp
Rosemary's granddaughter.
[48:44]
Caleb Hearon
Do you know this song?
[48:45]
Josh Sharp
No. I am, for some reason thought it was maybe a joke on Rosemary's baby.
[48:49]
Caleb Hearon
No, no. Granddaughter Spinning image of my father. Wait, what's the day is done. My mama's still my biggest fit.
[48:58]
Josh Sharp
Now it's feeling familiar.
[48:59]
Caleb Hearon
Who I Am by Jessica Andrews, One hit wonder. Sorry, Jessica. I. That was. Seems that. I don't mean that derogatory. I think having a hit is a beautiful gift.
[49:05]
Josh Sharp
Are you kidding?
[49:06]
Caleb Hearon
And so to have one hit is like most people have zero hit. Can we actually talk about that?
[49:10]
Josh Sharp
Well, there are songs, and I'm about to mention one that's not a one hit wonder. But there's songs like, like Tears for Fears. Everybody Wants to rule the World. When that song comes on, I go, if I wrote this in 1980, whatever, I could be like, I'm done creatively. I did it. I could wake up every day, hear that song on the radio and go, well, life well lived. Like there's some where I'm like, are you kidding? Yeah, one hit hit. One hit is all it takes.
[49:37]
Caleb Hearon
One hit is all it takes.
[49:38]
Josh Sharp
I just think like, respect.
[49:39]
Caleb Hearon
No, we use one hit wonder as I think sometimes culturally it's seen as an insult. Think about.
[49:44]
Josh Sharp
You're ignoring wonderful. You're ignoring the word wonder.
[49:48]
Caleb Hearon
It's really. We should be in awe wonders. The big part.
[49:52]
Josh Sharp
We should have. We should have wonder at these people.
[49:54]
Caleb Hearon
Because they had a hit.
[49:56]
Josh Sharp
We should fall upon our knees in the glory that is this one hit, by the way. You know what I mean? In deep awe. In deep. We should be overcome. We should be speaking in tongues.
[50:06]
Caleb Hearon
99.7% of the world's population lives their entire lives without having a hit.
[50:10]
Josh Sharp
When Bitch by Meredith Brooks comes on, fall to your knees and speak in tongues.
[50:15]
Caleb Hearon
What am I? A bitch, A lover, A mother, A child? I mean, who else could have? No one did. That's what happened.
[50:23]
Josh Sharp
No one did.
[50:23]
Caleb Hearon
No one did. I feel really passionately about that. And I got very worked up and I had pizza for lunch. So my tummy's just a little ups, you know, upset. But it's. I'm just. I'm rife for something to go wrong.
[50:34]
Josh Sharp
I see that.
[50:34]
Caleb Hearon
And I can't have any more caffeine today, I told myself.
[50:37]
Josh Sharp
And yet I'm about to do a caffeine challenge with you for our sponsor, Red Bull xxl.
[50:43]
Caleb Hearon
I wish Red Bull would.
[50:45]
Josh Sharp
We're gonna. We're gonna chug caffeine's Red Bull advertised with us?
[50:49]
Caleb Hearon
Red Bull advertised with us. They throw advertisements.
[50:50]
Josh Sharp
I've been getting into Red Bull for the first time in my life.
[50:52]
Caleb Hearon
I've never had one.
[50:53]
Josh Sharp
Well, here's the Thing as someone who doesn't do powders.
[50:56]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[50:57]
Josh Sharp
At the club.
[50:57]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[50:59]
Josh Sharp
One, there's all this shit going around.
[51:00]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[51:00]
Josh Sharp
Two, I got the love of Christ. What more energy do I need than the love of Christ?
[51:04]
Caleb Hearon
God is in you. Yes.
[51:05]
Josh Sharp
Hide it under a bushel. No.
[51:06]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[51:07]
Josh Sharp
And most of all, I got that deviated septum. It's not worth it.
[51:09]
Caleb Hearon
Right.
[51:10]
Josh Sharp
So I have half a Red Bull. I'm like, why are any of y' all doing cocaine?
[51:14]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[51:15]
Josh Sharp
My heart is thumpa thumpa. I can be up till seven on Half Bull.
[51:17]
Caleb Hearon
It's working like that. Okay.
[51:19]
Josh Sharp
So, you know, once a month when I'm at the club, half a Red Bull.
[51:23]
Caleb Hearon
I've never had one. And I think. I think maybe I would benefit from it. I would like to develop a nasty drug problem, I think, for a while. And I don't mean to drug in which era? Yeah, I think because I'll say.
[51:35]
Josh Sharp
It's hard to imagine being in my 80s and not being like, let's give heroin a go.
[51:38]
Caleb Hearon
Right? I mean, heroin is the enticing one.
[51:41]
Josh Sharp
Come on.
[51:41]
Caleb Hearon
Heroin's the enticing one. Not now. Not now. It's not the right time.
[51:45]
Josh Sharp
Set at 4 in the morning, coming in.
[51:48]
Caleb Hearon
I'm coming in doing heroin.
[51:50]
Josh Sharp
No.
[51:50]
Caleb Hearon
I mean, it just won't work. And this is not to trivialize anyone who had a drug problem, of course. But for me, I do think I live. So I just think my life could. I could benefit from it artistically, from a big problem.
[52:00]
Josh Sharp
And there's nothing trivial about it. And even when there is, remember, we are the jesters.
[52:04]
Caleb Hearon
I'm a court jester.
[52:05]
Josh Sharp
It's actually our job to trivialize. And there's power in trivializing.
[52:08]
Caleb Hearon
I am clown.
[52:09]
Josh Sharp
Your issue is when you go, don't trivialize that. Oh, that has a negative connotation to you.
[52:13]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[52:13]
Josh Sharp
For me, trivializing is one of the highest forms of.
[52:16]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[52:17]
Josh Sharp
You know.
[52:17]
Caleb Hearon
Thank you.
[52:17]
Josh Sharp
Are we not clown? Are we not jester?
[52:19]
Caleb Hearon
You've changed my perspective.
[52:20]
Josh Sharp
Do we not have an essential role in the culture? Teehee. And Haha.
[52:24]
Caleb Hearon
I posted to look at the culture.
[52:27]
Josh Sharp
From afar and go, well, that's a little funny. There's something a little off about that.
[52:34]
Caleb Hearon
This is our ministry for listeners only. You can't see how beautifully Josh just emphasized his point. Sort of. Let me see, listeners, tell us in the Spotify comments if you get what I'm about to do.
[52:45]
Josh Sharp
This is our ministry. Yeah, that was that. I think there's a silent version of ASMR that just happened. You Heard nothing, but you could feel energetic energy.
[52:54]
Caleb Hearon
I bet there are people just listening right now who will inherently do what we just did and then come over to the YouTube to say, I got it right.
[53:01]
Josh Sharp
I actually bet this is witchy. I bet we can send them things with our mind.
[53:05]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[53:06]
Josh Sharp
Wait, I'm going to think of a number.
[53:07]
Caleb Hearon
I was going to do the exact same thing. Let's.
[53:09]
Josh Sharp
Let's think of both. Think of a number. Well, I'll do it first.
[53:11]
Caleb Hearon
Okay.
[53:12]
Josh Sharp
And I want. Or do you want to go first? Are you going to actually think of it and send it to them? And I want you, the listener at home, to say out loud what you think it is, and I'm going to say what it is, and I bet a lot of them are going to be right.
[53:20]
Caleb Hearon
Are you going to give any parameters? My number between. Usually people do that just to help.
[53:24]
Josh Sharp
No, I trust your. They don't need that.
[53:28]
Caleb Hearon
Okay. Okay.
[53:29]
Josh Sharp
We're going to go first or second?
[53:30]
Caleb Hearon
I want to go second, and I want to just.
[53:32]
Josh Sharp
Okay, okay, okay. I'm not going to make. Make. I'm about to make no noise. Yeah, for like 10 seconds. Yes, in that 10 seconds. And then I. And then I'm gonna go.
[53:41]
Caleb Hearon
It won't be 10 seconds, by the way. It'll be probably like five.
[53:44]
Josh Sharp
It's gonna be 10 seconds now that you did that to me.
[53:47]
Caleb Hearon
Now it needs to be 10 seconds. Keep it in my badge. Just.
[53:50]
Josh Sharp
And then at the end of that, I'm gonna go say the number, and you in your home or your car or at the gym or during sex with your husband.
[53:56]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[53:57]
Josh Sharp
Say the number, and then I'll tell you what it was. Okay. So. Okay. And here I'm sending it.
[54:15]
Caleb Hearon
Hold on, Josh.
[54:16]
Josh Sharp
Okay, hold on.
[54:17]
Caleb Hearon
Keep your eyes closed. I want to. I want to signal to chance now what I think it is. Just so there's.
[54:20]
Josh Sharp
Oh, that's good.
[54:20]
Caleb Hearon
That's proof on the record of what I was thinking of.
[54:22]
Josh Sharp
That's good. Eyes are closed. And now I'm keeping my eyes closed. Do you feel like the. And now I feel the listener can say out loud what you know. What you know the number is because I've sent it to you.
[54:35]
Caleb Hearon
Say the number now, listener. Now.
[54:37]
Josh Sharp
And the number that you received from me was 69. Oh, what'd you think?
[54:44]
Caleb Hearon
I'm scared to say.
[54:46]
Josh Sharp
That's okay.
[54:46]
Caleb Hearon
So far off. What do you want to try and guess? Hold on. I'm thinking of another.
[54:49]
Josh Sharp
No, now you do it. Now you do it.
[54:51]
Caleb Hearon
Okay, I'm thinking.
[54:51]
Josh Sharp
Send it to them.
[54:52]
Caleb Hearon
And this is for listeners.
[54:53]
Josh Sharp
God, y' all thought inside baseball musicians was bad listener. Ah, be careful what you wish, listeners.
[55:00]
Caleb Hearon
This is for only you. If you're viewing, you might have already.
[55:02]
Josh Sharp
Seen gay coming to haunt your ass.
[55:04]
Caleb Hearon
I'm sending you a number, listeners. Only viewers. You've already seen cuz I flashed it to chance. Listeners, I am sending you a number. You now know that it is not 69. I want you to listeners, say now. My number say now. Do you want to guess?
[55:19]
Josh Sharp
Okay. Your number was 454.
[55:30]
Caleb Hearon
It was 13. Wow. Wow. But.
[55:34]
Josh Sharp
But you have to admit, right?
[55:36]
Caleb Hearon
I mean, take a look. You have to admit because 1369 and 454.
[55:41]
Josh Sharp
13 times 69 is 454.
[55:44]
Caleb Hearon
I bet.
[55:44]
Josh Sharp
Wait, run that back.
[55:45]
Caleb Hearon
I bet. Run that chance. Run those numbers.
[55:48]
Josh Sharp
Run that back.
[55:48]
Caleb Hearon
There it is. He just showed us. It's. That's what that is.
[55:50]
Josh Sharp
13 times 69.
[55:52]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[55:53]
Josh Sharp
450. Look at that.
[55:54]
Caleb Hearon
That's crazy. Wait, that's crazy. Show them. Trying to guess. Trying to gaslight my audience.
[56:03]
Josh Sharp
That's crazy.
[56:04]
Caleb Hearon
That.
[56:04]
Josh Sharp
That says 454.
[56:05]
Caleb Hearon
We can't. Enough of these people have been in grippy socks that.
[56:08]
Josh Sharp
Josh Sharp, tada.com.
[56:10]
Caleb Hearon
We can't play these games. It's going to hurt these people. They're unwell. I actually would pay money to know how many of my listeners have been in an institution. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot. I know it because a lot of my friends have. So I'm like, I can't even imagine what I'm sending out.
[56:28]
Josh Sharp
I don't want to go there. Not when I'm in previews.
[56:32]
Caleb Hearon
I have tech.
[56:33]
Josh Sharp
I can't. I have tech.
[56:37]
Caleb Hearon
I can't right now. Caleb. I have tech. Wait. I have a segment for you.
[56:40]
Josh Sharp
Segment. Time. Time.
[56:41]
Caleb Hearon
What's so true to you, Josh Sharp?
[56:44]
Josh Sharp
Oh, yeah. Oh God. I really wasn't prepared for that.
[56:47]
Caleb Hearon
Do you want to think about that while I do true or false with you?
[56:49]
Josh Sharp
Yeah.
[56:49]
Caleb Hearon
Okay. I'm giving you time.
[56:50]
Josh Sharp
I do.
[56:51]
Caleb Hearon
Joshua Cassandra Sharp, I'm going to read you 15 statements. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if you think what I just said is true or false. And if you get 10 or more correct and you didn't even know I was going to do this because this is not the normal one, I'm going to do a different prize. If you get 10 or more correct, I am going to pay for two random listeners of this show to come see Tada. In New York City.
[57:11]
Josh Sharp
This is amazing.
[57:12]
Caleb Hearon
But if you don't get them right, I'm not paying for those tickets. I'll buy two tickets for listeners and you can find out how to pick them. You and Chance can work that out.
[57:18]
Josh Sharp
Okay.
[57:19]
Caleb Hearon
But I will pay for two people to come see your show in New York City. Okay?
[57:21]
Josh Sharp
Understood.
[57:22]
Caleb Hearon
Okay. Guy Fieri is 6 foot 8.
[57:25]
Josh Sharp
False pulse.
[57:26]
Caleb Hearon
He's 5 foot 10. On Gilligan's island, it was never revealed if Gilligan was his first or last name.
[57:32]
Josh Sharp
True.
[57:32]
Caleb Hearon
That is true. More people live in South Carolina than North Carolina.
[57:36]
Josh Sharp
False. False.
[57:38]
Caleb Hearon
It takes Uranus four years to orbit the sun once.
[57:42]
Josh Sharp
False.
[57:43]
Caleb Hearon
False. 84 years. Ms. Piggy and Yoda are played by the same person.
[57:47]
Josh Sharp
True.
[57:47]
Caleb Hearon
True. Frank Oz, the largest statue in the world is the statue of Unity in India.
[57:54]
Josh Sharp
True.
[57:54]
Caleb Hearon
True. Ant queens live to be 30 years old.
[57:58]
Josh Sharp
Ants. Queens, like the queens of an ant colony.
[58:01]
Caleb Hearon
Mm.
[58:01]
Josh Sharp
False.
[58:02]
Caleb Hearon
True. Tom Hanks was born in Canada.
[58:05]
Josh Sharp
False.
[58:06]
Caleb Hearon
False. Meg Ryan. Can you tell I'm working on not giving it away with my voice anymore? Yeah, Meg Ryan.
[58:11]
Josh Sharp
Fucking crushing.
[58:13]
Caleb Hearon
Nailing it. Meg Ryan has an asteroid named after her.
[58:17]
Josh Sharp
Well, I just from a place of deep hope. True.
[58:20]
Caleb Hearon
True. The Book of Mormon opened on Broadway in 2008. 8.
[58:26]
Josh Sharp
Oh, God. False.
[58:28]
Caleb Hearon
False. 2011. Yeah. Nana means mother in Italian.
[58:33]
Josh Sharp
False.
[58:34]
Caleb Hearon
False. Grandmother. The phone number for empire today is 800-5882-300588-23858.
[58:46]
Josh Sharp
Eight. That part's definitely true. 2300. God. I'm gonna go. False.
[58:52]
Caleb Hearon
True.
[58:52]
Josh Sharp
Damn.
[58:53]
Caleb Hearon
2300. Empire.
[58:55]
Josh Sharp
I was like, is the 23? Are you tricking me with the 2300? That's okay.
[58:59]
Caleb Hearon
Empire. That's why zebras have six toes on each foot.
[59:03]
Josh Sharp
False. False.
[59:04]
Caleb Hearon
Just one. Nickelback performed the song Lips of an Angel.
[59:09]
Josh Sharp
False.
[59:10]
Caleb Hearon
False. Was hinder. Smallville ran for 10 seasons.
[59:14]
Josh Sharp
True.
[59:15]
Caleb Hearon
It's true. True. Jesus Christ. Thirteen. Joshua. Cassandra's sharp. I'm so proud of you. Okay, you guys figure out how to find those listeners.
[59:23]
Josh Sharp
This is huge.
[59:24]
Caleb Hearon
And I'll. And I'll buy some tickets.
[59:25]
Josh Sharp
Yeah. What would be the most fun way to do it? Chance? Maybe we leave two at the box.
[59:30]
Caleb Hearon
Office and just say whoever gets to the box office first and yells your face or whatever. No, we can't have people yelling, especially not something like that. What about whoever gets the most from this episode? That's whoever gets a. Whoever posts a comment on. In on the YouTube and gets the most. Like, what if they don't live in New York? Well, that's their Problem get to New York.
[59:48]
Josh Sharp
Well, then they. Then they've got two tickets to give to whoever.
[59:50]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, then they can give it or.
[59:51]
Josh Sharp
What a great reason for a trip. You got two free tickets to the.
[59:54]
Caleb Hearon
Hottest ticket on for summer to the New York Times. Sure to be hot reviewed show. Ta da.
[59:59]
Josh Sharp
New York Times is like. Like dicks. It sucks like much like dicks.
[60:03]
Caleb Hearon
Josh Sharp does not have it. They. They declare. We're calling it. We've seen enough, Josh. The 538 calls it. Josh Sharp doesn't have it. They call it Nate. What's his name? Nate Silver. Yeah, he calls it. He calls it. They. They implicate me as well. These two don't have it. And they talk at the same time too damn much. Yeah, they should have taken more cotillion classes.
[60:23]
Josh Sharp
God, we all should.
[60:25]
Caleb Hearon
God, wouldn't it be nice?
[60:27]
Josh Sharp
Some of these girls need manners.
[60:28]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, they really do. You know what I'm having a craving for?
[60:31]
Josh Sharp
What?
[60:31]
Caleb Hearon
I want to do a voicemail with you. Chance and I were just saying. We don't do the voicemails anymore. Put your headphones on.
[60:37]
Josh Sharp
Yeah, let's do one.
[60:38]
Caleb Hearon
Hello, Caleb and guest. So I just wanted to call in and let you know guys know that I married a few days ago.
[60:45]
Josh Sharp
And for our wedding menu, we had.
[60:48]
Caleb Hearon
Chicken wings and they were delicious. They were smoked for hours, then deep fried.
[60:52]
Josh Sharp
And I just want to know.
[60:56]
Caleb Hearon
What'S your ideal wedding?
[60:57]
Josh Sharp
What is.
[60:58]
Caleb Hearon
What is your. Your guys's ideal weddings look like? What's the food? What are you wearing?
[61:04]
Josh Sharp
What's your partner wearing?
[61:05]
Caleb Hearon
So let me know. Thank you. I know that's a big girl, by the way. I know that's a big girl. And I want to thank. I want to thank you for calling in big girl. Thank you.
[61:14]
Josh Sharp
You.
[61:14]
Caleb Hearon
I'll tell you my ideal wedding. What I want.
[61:17]
Josh Sharp
Go.
[61:18]
Caleb Hearon
Okay. If I were to marry somebody who really cared about weddings, I would defer to them and do whatever they wanted. Okay. I do not like weddings. I don't want to be invited to a wedding. I do not want to your wedding.
[61:28]
Josh Sharp
I'm sort of with you. Everybody thinks I'm doing a cool version of wedding.
[61:31]
Caleb Hearon
You're not.
[61:31]
Josh Sharp
Sort of. Not unless you. Unless you fully don't do it at all. You're not.
[61:35]
Caleb Hearon
That's the only cool wedding. Eloping is the cool wedding.
[61:38]
Josh Sharp
Avoid being a part of the industrial wedding complex.
[61:40]
Caleb Hearon
I am begging you, if you are my close friend, with respect, and you are listening to this chance, please clip this. This. Do not invite me to your wedding. I don't want to come. I don't want to come. And everyone thinks they're the exception. I don't want to come to your wedding.
[61:51]
Josh Sharp
Fully there. I'll still go to some, but. But I just never. I don't buy that. It's like ours is the fun one, but the exception is my brother's wedding. It was the fun one.
[61:59]
Caleb Hearon
I believe you. I don't want to come. I don't want to come to your wedding. I've. I've. I officiated my friend's wedding.
[62:04]
Josh Sharp
Why? My brother's wedding.
[62:05]
Caleb Hearon
I loved it.
[62:05]
Josh Sharp
Of course, he's my brother, so I'm biased one. He's a musician. And so he got some of his incredibly talented musician friends, many of which I think you know. Yes. Rachel Price of Lake street dive at all to do a little pre concert. That's just like a. Come on, girls, let's like, let play some music.
[62:22]
Caleb Hearon
And I hope he got up and did Louise, by the way, say that because, you know, I want to hear Louise.
[62:26]
Josh Sharp
So let's clock Mipso farewell tour. Let's clock that this summer, fall, please see the band. Mipso, you're going with me in Brooklyn. We're gonna be singing Louise.
[62:33]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[62:34]
Josh Sharp
Actually, I have something to say to you. Off, off pod about that.
[62:36]
Caleb Hearon
Okay.
[62:39]
Josh Sharp
Also, because he sells fancy wine to fancy restaurants. He got a bunch of cool restaurants that don't cater weddings to be like, well, we'll do yours.
[62:46]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[62:46]
Josh Sharp
So you weren't doing the normal sort of like wedding food. It was like people who were like, let's just like. So it did actually sort of feel like a dinner party.
[62:54]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Damn.
[62:55]
Josh Sharp
But. And so unfortunately, it's the rare exception to where I was like, damn. You just have to truly adamantly work with only people who've never done a wedding before in their lives.
[63:03]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. My friend, recently, I was telling him how much I hate weddings because he had had one and he didn't invite me, and I thanked him for it. And he said, well, that's just you. You have such a wrong opinion because it's the only time you can get all your friends together. And I said, I don't need that. I don't need all the friends from the different walks of my life to get together. And then, you know, they're not kind of wanting to do. I'm like, I don't need that. I don't know what the. You say that as if it's like an inherently understood good thing. Anyway, all this is to say the wedding I Would do is this. Me and my partner would go to the courthouse with whatever amount of witnesses we need to have. They would ideally not be family, just two random people from our lives, whoever's free. I. Maybe I called somebody and say, what are you doing right now? They say nothing. I say, come to city hall. When you witnesses, we get married, then we send a letter.
[63:45]
Josh Sharp
It's John Cena. Yes, that's who you call.
[63:47]
Caleb Hearon
Yes, it's John Cena and Eric Andre from. From Netflix's Little Brother. And we, we send a letter to everyone we love that says, hey, we got married two months from now. We're throwing a party. Here's the date. No dress code, no gifts. Come if you want to. If not, you can buy us dinner sometime if you feel like it. Love you very much.
[64:03]
Josh Sharp
Perfect.
[64:04]
Caleb Hearon
That is the perfect wedding.
[64:05]
Josh Sharp
No, no notes.
[64:05]
Caleb Hearon
That's the perfect wedding.
[64:06]
Josh Sharp
No notes.
[64:07]
Caleb Hearon
One party, no dress code, no gifts. If you don't come, we explicitly do not care. I love it.
[64:13]
Josh Sharp
No notes.
[64:13]
Caleb Hearon
And that's it. By the way, my mom would get that letter. That's. Everyone's getting the letter. It's. It's across the board treatment.
[64:18]
Josh Sharp
You're gonna throw a filter on the letter for your mom?
[64:20]
Caleb Hearon
I'm gonna raw. I'm smoothing the letter.
[64:22]
Josh Sharp
Okay.
[64:23]
Caleb Hearon
I'm smoothing. Mother, you've changed. Mother has smoothed.
[64:25]
Josh Sharp
Mother has smooth.
[64:26]
Caleb Hearon
What's your ideal wedding?
[64:27]
Josh Sharp
No, it's that. That's literally that. It's like you got to just sort of not have a wedding and throw a party later on. I've had several friends do that. That's the best way to do it. I like respect to everyone in their weddings. I know it means a lot to you. I love you. I love you. But, yeah, I love you.
[64:42]
Caleb Hearon
Shout out to all my friends who have gotten married.
[64:45]
Josh Sharp
This is, you know, this is. This is talking to your straight friends about, you know, baseball or whatever. Yeah, I love that. You love that shit.
[64:51]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[64:51]
Josh Sharp
It is pastoral and boring to me.
[64:53]
Caleb Hearon
Specifically baseball.
[64:55]
Josh Sharp
That you love it.
[64:55]
Caleb Hearon
Specifically baseball, by the way. Way.
[64:57]
Josh Sharp
Yeah, exactly. Specifically, I went to a WNBA game. Got my life. You know what I mean? Like, some sports are good.
[65:02]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[65:03]
Josh Sharp
Well, you know, we're theater people. Basketball has narrative.
[65:06]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[65:06]
Josh Sharp
Baseball does not.
[65:07]
Caleb Hearon
Football does. I'm telling you, football is. If you watch football with me, you'd be into it. I knew you were going to feel this way.
[65:12]
Josh Sharp
I think soccer does, but football doesn't.
[65:14]
Caleb Hearon
Soccer.
[65:15]
Josh Sharp
Soccer has a very avant garde, fluid narrative.
[65:18]
Caleb Hearon
Soccer.
[65:21]
Josh Sharp
Energies shift on a dime. You have to be locked in.
[65:24]
Caleb Hearon
You haven't watched football, Joshua.
[65:25]
Josh Sharp
I watched it. It's a lot of standing around waiting to set up a play. There's too much pause.
[65:31]
Caleb Hearon
You are sick.
[65:32]
Josh Sharp
It's war. It's not narrative. It's war.
[65:33]
Caleb Hearon
You are sick.
[65:34]
Josh Sharp
It's war.
[65:35]
Caleb Hearon
Soccer's a boring game for. I can't stand it. And of course the guys are cute, but that's what makes it so gay. Soccer is just a boring lame. And I can't even talk to people from Britain anymore.
[65:46]
Josh Sharp
Damn, again.
[65:47]
Caleb Hearon
Because half the time it's all they'll talk about.
[65:48]
Josh Sharp
This is trivialized. You say this like it's a negative thing.
[65:51]
Caleb Hearon
Thing.
[65:51]
Josh Sharp
I'm here standing soccer because it's for. That's what I love about it. Whereas your ass is like, oh, let me go down to the NFL arena where a bunch of alt right oil billionaires have paid paid men of color to give each other concussions.
[66:07]
Caleb Hearon
Go ahead. Go ahead. I have internalized homophobia. I will never forget. I will never forget on this show when Alex English said something during his interview and I said, said, well, what would you say to people that think that's maybe internalized homophobia? And he goes, that's okay to have.
[66:27]
Josh Sharp
Our culture can't self love. We give it to so many other cultures.
[66:30]
Caleb Hearon
I said, tell them, Alex.
[66:32]
Josh Sharp
There's so many cultures that have made self loathing a part of their charm. Let gay people do it.
[66:37]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah. Oh, and that's okay to have is such a funny response to that accusation. And that's okay to have.
[66:43]
Josh Sharp
That's okay to have.
[66:44]
Caleb Hearon
Yes. Yes. Ever heard of it? Next. What is so true to you, Joshua Sharp. Joshua Cassandra Sharp.
[66:51]
Josh Sharp
So true to me is, and I don't know if everyone in this room is gonna agree with me, we have to embrace summer. And by that I mean get outside and sweat. And sometimes people are like, oh, I'm so sweaty it feels awful. That's your body working, you know, that's your body cooling you down. And there's a certain liberation in sort of giving up and going, you know what? I'm gonna be sweaty and clammy and gross. Gross. And aren't we all?
[67:13]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[67:13]
Josh Sharp
You know what I mean? Like, take a bath in the discomfort.
[67:16]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[67:16]
Josh Sharp
Enjoy summer. Let your body sweat and don't be, don't be mad about it.
[67:20]
Caleb Hearon
Yes.
[67:20]
Josh Sharp
Do you know what I mean?
[67:21]
Caleb Hearon
I do. And do you know what I mean?
[67:22]
Josh Sharp
A lot of people like, I'm sweating. I'm like, that's good.
[67:25]
Caleb Hearon
We're all doing that.
[67:26]
Josh Sharp
You would be so fucking hot if Your body didn't have a natural way to cool you down, which is sweat.
[67:30]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[67:31]
Josh Sharp
So, like, if you're gonna be a summer girl, be a summer girl.
[67:33]
Caleb Hearon
I'm gonna prescribe something to you, Josh. I want you to listen to the Annie derusso song, It's Good to Be Hot in the Summer. Summer. Because that. What you're talking about is a philosophy that she posited on her most recent album. I want all of you right now to go stream It's Good to Be Hot in the Summer by Andy Durusso. I've been listening to it.
[67:48]
Josh Sharp
I think that's the point.
[67:49]
Caleb Hearon
It's the point. And she specifically is talking about. I'm done when it's 95 outside, going in and turning the AC on 68. I'm sweating. I'm enjoying the summer.
[67:58]
Josh Sharp
You just gotta.
[67:59]
Caleb Hearon
It's good to be hot in the summer.
[68:00]
Josh Sharp
It's good to be hot in the summer. I agree.
[68:01]
Caleb Hearon
A visionary artist with a visionary message that completely aligns with what you're saying. A visionary artist with a visionary message.
[68:07]
Josh Sharp
You.
[68:07]
Caleb Hearon
That's what you are.
[68:08]
Josh Sharp
I'm gonna get Annie a last minute invite to opening.
[68:10]
Caleb Hearon
Would you please? Would you please? I'm sure, I'm sure they will love that. I'm sure. I'm sure your team will be like, oh, thank you, Josh. Throwing people on at the last minute. We love it. Okay, well, I just love you. Is there anything you want to leave the people with?
[68:22]
Josh Sharp
No.
[68:23]
Caleb Hearon
No.
[68:23]
Josh Sharp
I feel blessed to be here. I love you dearly.
[68:25]
Caleb Hearon
We feel blessed to have you.
[68:26]
Josh Sharp
Well, Josharptada.com if you're, if you're. If you're any other than the two got free tickets, that's where you're gonna have to go.
[68:32]
Caleb Hearon
Go.
[68:33]
Josh Sharp
Make your case in the comments for why you deserve it.
[68:35]
Caleb Hearon
Make your case in the YouTube comments and we'll find a way to get.
[68:38]
Josh Sharp
A hold of it. And then Chance, I trust you to pick that to do that.
[68:41]
Caleb Hearon
Chance will figure that out. He's good. He's good at that sort of stuff.
[68:44]
Josh Sharp
I can't get in there as the artist. It wouldn't be right for me to pick.
[68:46]
Caleb Hearon
No, it's not right.
[68:47]
Josh Sharp
We need a third party.
[68:48]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah.
[68:48]
Josh Sharp
You know, or else we're gonna have a La La Land situation again.
[68:51]
Caleb Hearon
You know what else?
[68:52]
Josh Sharp
You know what I mean? We need it. We need a. A clearinghouse.
[68:54]
Caleb Hearon
Does the show have its own Instagram?
[68:56]
Josh Sharp
It does.
[68:57]
Caleb Hearon
It's another way we could have done it is by following the Instagram.
[68:59]
Josh Sharp
That's true.
[69:00]
Caleb Hearon
But we're gonna keep it on the comments.
[69:02]
Josh Sharp
We're keeping in the comments. That's what we already committed to now that we're saying it while you're there. You know what? Follow Josh Sharp to die. I'm not gonna say Chance isn't gonna look more favorably on you if he sees you follow that.
[69:12]
Caleb Hearon
Yeah, Chance. Maybe we do something on the social media where we. We say we'll. We'll. We'll definitely pick someone's voicemail if they prove to us that they follow Josh's show. That could be helpful for the. We'll depict over.
[69:23]
Josh Sharp
I love something. I love this.
[69:25]
Caleb Hearon
We want to a. Have help. We like to be part of the story.
[69:27]
Josh Sharp
And. And as I've always said, look for the helpers.
[69:29]
Caleb Hearon
Look for the helpers. That's. You originated that, did you?
[69:32]
Josh Sharp
I originated that on my children's television show.
[69:34]
Caleb Hearon
Josh, we love you. Thanks for doing it.
[69:36]
Josh Sharp
Bless you.
[69:36]
Caleb Hearon
Bye, honey.
[69:37]
Josh Sharp
Bye, sugar.
[69:38]
Caleb Hearon
That was a headgum podcast.