132: Nacho Cheese Person with Red Richardson | Soder Podcast | EP 130

Summary

Soder Podcast – EP 132: “Nacho Cheese Person” with Red Richardson

Release Date: May 5, 2026
Host: Dan Soder
Guest: Red Richardson

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Episode Overview

This episode of the Soder Podcast is a loose, highly entertaining and candid conversation between stand-up comedians Dan Soder and Red Richardson. While they riff on everything from weather and comedy culture to internet toxicity, social dynamics, and showbiz, their focus is on what it’s really like to make a living as a comic today—especially across the UK/US divide. The show blends personal stories, cultural commentary, mutual admiration, and searingly funny, off-the-cuff banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Origins: Weather, Living Spaces, & Cultural Differences

[03:39–06:15]

• The duo begins with humorous small talk about Soder's video game room, blizzards in the US and UK, and the cultural significance of snow or lack thereof in England.
  • Red (04:19): "The blizzard on Sunday was just spitting on us, really."
  • Dan (05:16): "In England, even this much snow cancels all the trains."
• Red recounts being in London during the record 2022 heatwave, comparing the UK’s lack of air conditioners and ice to the creature comforts of the US.

2. Comedy Scenes: UK vs. US, Audience Sensibilities, and The Edinburgh Fringe

[06:15-08:57]

• The challenges and oddities of performing overseas—especially about more risqué jokes.
  • Red (06:54): “I talked about eating ass and everyone was like...it made me feel like nacho cheese as a person.”
  • Soder and Red dissect how arts festivals like Edinburgh cater to indie “rubbish,” but also reveal cliquey industry mechanisms.

3. Comedy Specials & Mutual Comedian Admiration

[08:25–09:40]

• Dan praises Red’s recent work (‘Bugatti Live’), especially the development of jokes over time, and how comics sometimes get mad at each other’s punchlines:
  • Dan (08:58): “The dildo line, I was really mad about—like, what a good punchline.”
• Red discusses how watching specials can feel like holding on at a rodeo, emphasizing attention span and bite-sized standup.

4. Audience Comments, Online Haters, and Comedic Resilience

[10:05–15:17]

• In-depth, relatable talk about growing a thick skin against online criticism, haters, and the emotional impact of negative comments.
  • Dan (10:19): “The first time I read my comments on YouTube was the second time I did Conan, and I didn’t do well.”
  • Red (11:45): "DarkLord54 said, 'I’m glad your dad’s dead not to watch this.'"
  • Joking about the backhanded support from hecklers or critical fans ("Don’t quit your J job").
  • Everyone reads the comments, developing “scar tissue” over time.

5. Internet & Social Commentary: Comments Sections as Art

[13:08–14:19]

• The brilliance and cruelty of comment section roasts—sometimes outshining comedians.
  • Dan (14:06): “Some people are hilarious. One guy called me Jon Snow Globe. Good, man.”
  • Commentary about everyday people being wittier than professionals online.

6. Death Threats, Celebrity Fan Culture & The Taylor Swift Phenomenon

[18:14–19:52]

• Stories of comics getting death threats after joking about beloved musicians (Taylor Swift), illustrating the emotional attachment people have to music and celebrities.
  • Dan (18:41): “Comedian in England had to call the police...this woman in Vietnam said she was gonna fly over and kill her because of a Taylor Swift joke.”

7. Comedy, Fame, and the Los Angeles Scene

[20:18–22:59]

• Differences between UK and LA/New York scenes: the coolness factor, celebrity presence at shows, and how fame changes performer/audience dynamics.

8. The Real Lives of Celebrities, Female Comics, and Social Media Messages

[23:28–24:59]

• Challenges women face with fame, especially in their inboxes, and absurd or creepy messages they receive.
  • Red (24:16): “Let Red and I read your hidden requests on Instagram...just random, ugly, weird, bent penises.”

9. Old School Internet Culture, Facebook Pranks, and How the Web Has Changed

[25:03–29:31]

• Stories about “fraping” (Facebook pranking) and how Facebook and the early internet fostered wild, anonymous mischief before being “ruined” by adults/institutions.
  • Dan (27:24): “Facebook, like, tag a friend who’s gay—up until my early 30s, still the best joke in town.”

10. Flags, National Identity, & Symbolism

[31:18–33:15]

• How flags take on different meanings—including shifting from patriotism to racism, both in the UK and US.
  • Red (32:21): “When I would see...protests waving flags that aren’t American—you’re like, fly the American flag. Own it.”

11. Epstein, Elite Abuse & The Shark Door Conspiracy

[33:42–36:32, 40:25–41:56]

• A long, darkly comedic riff on the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, including wild theories, VIP lounges, Prince Andrew, shark trapdoors, and the complicity/enabling of elite networks.
  • Dan (34:50): “That’s a James Bond villain—shark door...”
  • Red (36:44): “Have you ever had a sink without a garbage disposal?...Imagine seeing that and wanting it for your house.”
• Jokes about comics and even themselves being “in the files”—the randomness of association with such scandals.

12. Comedy Club Stories: Dealing with Hecklers, Kicking People Out, & Patrice O’Neal

[48:15–52:13]

• Detailed talk on dealing with disruptive audiences, including Soder’s tribute to Patrice O’Neal’s legendary method of paying a table’s bill to eject hecklers.
• Assessing the difference between club and theater management, and stories of legendary ball-busting comics.
  • Dan (50:42): “I watched him do that in awe... it works.”

13. “Ball Busting” Comedy and Changing Sensitivities

[54:16–57:47]

• How the old aggressive, joke-trading atmosphere fostered actually closer relationships but wouldn’t work today in a more sensitive, polarized era.
  • Red (56:27): “We always joked the old OA and ‘Tough Crowd’ guys were so vicious to each other...”

14. Politics, Cults of Personality, and the Internet’s Echo Chambers

[62:33–70:45]

• Candid takes on American and British political fandom, the hollowness of “nationalist” sentiment for another nation, and idol worship of politicians (“Bernie mania,” “Trump cult”).
  • Red (64:36): “It looks pathetic. It looks weak, really.”
  • Dan (69:01): “[Trump] is the best at getting people to blindly follow him.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |-----------|---------|-------| | 06:54 | Red | “I talked about eating ass and everyone was like...it made me feel like nacho cheese as a person.” | | 08:58 | Dan | “The dildo line, I was really mad about—like, what a good punchline.” | | 11:45 | Red | “DarkLord54 said, ‘I’m glad your dad’s dead not to watch this.’” | | 14:06 | Dan | “Some people are hilarious. One guy called me Jon Snow Globe. Good, man.” | | 18:41 | Dan | “Comedian in England had to call the police...this woman in Vietnam said she was gonna fly over and kill her because of a Taylor Swift joke.” | | 24:16 | Red | “Let Red and I read your hidden requests on Instagram...just random, ugly, weird, bent penises.” | | 25:24 | Dan | “Facebook, like, tag a friend who's gay—up until my early 30s, still the best joke in town.” | | 34:50 – 35:26 | Dan & Red | (On Epstein’s "shark door") “That’s a James Bond villain...How real is that?...it’s like the first time I saw Snatch, and Bricktop gives the speech about pig farmers…that feels real.” | | 50:42 | Dan | “I watched [Patrice O'Neal] do that in awe...it works.” | | 56:27 | Red | “We always joked...their ball-busting chin goes. You got to let them punch you…then you land a hard one and go, I didn’t mean that.” |

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Additional Highlights & Running Jokes

• Soder’s Video Game Office: Joking about audience assumptions and his “living room” full of knickknacks (03:47).
• The comment-section-as-performance-art: Roasting strangers online is both an art and a competitive sport.
• Meta-commentary on Podcasts: Both comics poke fun at how everyone has a podcast now—mobsters, reality TV “celebrities,” and the dog show world.
• Critiques of Modern Comedy Trends: Lamentations about attention spans, Netflix’s “plot over-explanation” notes, and the loss of slower, old-school storytelling in movies.
• Ball-busting Stories: Legendary tales of NYC’s Tough Crowd comedy scene, the rules of insult etiquette, and how the culture has changed.
• Travel & Geography: Playful misunderstanding about Tucson, Sedona, and Arizona geography (75:12), and how gigging distances in the US vs UK differ greatly.

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 03:39–06:15 — US/UK Weather, Cruise/Air Conditioning, Cultural Habits
• 07:13–08:22 — Edinburgh Fringe, Comedy Culture
• 10:05–15:17 — Handling Online Hate & Comments
• 18:14–19:52 — Music Jokes, Taylor Swift, Death Threats
• 23:28–24:59 — Women, Fame, and Instagram “Hidden Requests”
• 25:03–29:31 — Facebook Pranks, Early Internet Chaos
• 32:21–33:15 — Flags, Symbolism in US/UK
• 34:38–36:32 — Epstein Theories, Shark Doors
• 48:15–52:13 — Patrice O’Neal, Kicking Out Hecklers
• 54:16–57:47 — Ball-Busting Comedy Culture/Era Shift
• 69:01–70:09 — Trump, Political Personality Cults
• 78:12–79:47 — Stand-Up Venue Dynamics US/UK
• 85:13–86:37 — Social Media Scrolling Addiction
• 89:04–89:48 — Podcasts as Stand-Up Promotion

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Conclusion & Tone

The Soder Podcast with Red Richardson is an unfiltered, highly self-aware, and consistently hilarious hour-plus of two comics splitting open their professions, cultures, and personal quirks for the audience. They move seamlessly from the silly (nacho cheese, fraping pranks) to serious social commentary (celebrity cults, online cruelty, the dangers of idolizing politicians, and coping with fame).

Their style is friendly roasting laced with self-deprecation and warmth, and the episode is a must-listen for fans of modern standup, comedy as subculture, and the behind-the-scenes realities of life on stage and online.

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Recommended: Watch Red Richardson's ‘Bugatti Live’ on YouTube and follow both Dan and Red for tour dates and continued podcast hijinks!

Transcript

[Dan Soder]

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[Red Richardson]

Hey everyone, check out this guy and his bird. What is this, your first date? Oh, no. We help people customize and save on

[Dan Soder]

car insurance with Liberty Mutual together.

[Red Richardson]

We're married.

[Dan Soder]

Me to a human, him to a bird.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, the bird looks out of your league. Anyways, get a'@libertymutual.com or with your local agent.

[Dan Soder]

Liberty, Liberty, Liberty, Liberty. Out here, if you're doing nothing, you're doing everything right? Though on a cruise with Norwegian, even

[Red Richardson]

if you're doing nothing, you're still basking in the warm sun, enjoying the peaceful ocean waves. You're breathing. Don't forget about breathing.

[Dan Soder]

Definitely need to be breathing. So you get to do nothing or

[Red Richardson]

everything, but you still need to be breathing.

[Dan Soder]

It's like really important experience.

[Red Richardson]

The difference with cruises to Alaska, the Caribbean and Europe. Norwegian Cruise Line. It's different out here. Visit ncl.com, call your travel advisor or 188ncl Cruise Norwegian Cruise Line Ships Registry Bahamas and USA hey everybody, thanks for watching the podcast. Netflix is a joke festival. It's going on this week. There's a ton of shows in Los Angeles. If you live in Los Angeles, you should check out those shows. You know what show you should really check out at the avalon Theater at 9:30 on Wednesday night, Me and Tim Dillon watching Made in Manhattan. How fun is that? We're gonna sit, me and Tim Dillon, one of the funniest human beings walking the planet, are gonna sit and watch 90 minutes of JLo rom com slop. We already got the the movie approved. We're gonna come by, we got some, maybe have some, some guests coming by to take shots at the movie. But I know you're gonna be watching a ton of stand up comedy, a bunch of sketch. Why don't you come watch a little Mystery Science Theater 3000 style. Watch me and Tim Dillon make fun of J. Lo's Made in Manhattan. If you think the ice talk is going to be little, you're wrong. Extra ice talk. Hey everybody, thanks for watching the podcast. You know we got the special taping coming up in June. If you. I know tickets sold out fast. We are probably going to be releasing tickets when we find out kind of what the setup of the room is. So stay, you know, keep your ear to the ground about that. We'll probably put it on Instagram, maybe on the podcast. We'll Let you know. But we're going to release more tickets for the tapings June 13th at the Throckmorton Theater in Mill Valley. However, I am running the shit out of this hour before we tape it. October 5th. October, May 15th and 16th, I'm gonna be at the Funny Bone in Omaha, Nebraska, bringing Brendan Sagalo with me. June 1st and 2nd, I'm gonna be at Key West Comedy in Key West, Florida. It's a Monday and Tuesday night, so if you're there on vacation or you live near there, we're gonna have a fun show at Key west comedy. And then May 5, we're gonna. Or, sorry, June 5, we're gonna be at New Jersey Performing Arts Center. Those tickets are almost sold out. Dansoder.com for all the shows I mentioned. And then we will be coming up soon with an announcement. A bunch of club dates, including Batavia, including Baltimore, including a bunch of clubs that are kind of tiny, that I'm going to work on a new hour. We're going to be releasing those. That announcement will happen soon. But to focus, to focus. My add. Funny Bone, May 15th and 16th, comedy, Key West, June 1st and 2nd, New Jersey Performing Arts Center, June 5th. And then we'll see in Mill Valley June 13th for the Netflix special taping. Thank you guys for watching this podcast. I really appreciate it. I'm sorry if I interrupt this guest. That's where I play video games.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

People don't know that. Even my best friend that I grew up with who watches the podcast was like, that's not your living room. And you're like, come on, man.

[Dan Soder]

Really?

[Red Richardson]

That's a bookcase for an office. You can't do that in a living room. People would think, you know.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

They're like, what the fuck? Is soda slightly special with all of his knickknacks?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Do you guys have. You don't have blizzards in the uk not too.

[Dan Soder]

We don't. You get snow really? Hardly.

[Red Richardson]

Did you. Did you have the moment where you're like, enjoy it at all?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, I went out in it, like, sort of just before it got really bad.

[Red Richardson]

Do a. Did you do a circle and stick your tongue out?

[Dan Soder]

No, I was. But it was. It was fun. It's hard on your face.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Well, also, the blizzard that happened on Sunday was like, it wasn't that cold, so it was more wet than snow. So it was. It was just like. Just like spitting on it.

[Dan Soder]

Wasn't as bad. I thought, like, oh, I gotta get inside. Because they were saying like 60 mph winds. I thought it would be people being blown around the streets just watching people.

[Red Richardson]

Cuz also you're like what is that in kilometers? You go 60 mile an hour. Enough to lift a human.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. I was going to order an Uber eats, see how he got there.

[Red Richardson]

You know what's funny man is that is the thing where you. I on Sunday I had to walk the dog. Yeah. You know during the blizzard and I saw UberEats drivers and I was like

[Dan Soder]

which piece of shit has done this?

[Red Richardson]

You better be. They better be handing you cash. Cash just don't even report that.

[Dan Soder]

Well, imagine seeing a blizzard. You know what I fancy A pizza.

[Red Richardson]

A very. A slide disc that slides in a box. Bring that in the worst weather possible.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It's.

[Dan Soder]

We don't. Because England barely snows anymore. You still. I'm being a kid and you go like somebody just doesn't anymore.

[Red Richardson]

Because I always think about like so uneducated. I mean I've been to London but like I think of English Christmas is like a Christmas carol.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It just doesn't happen like Ebenezer Scrooge like that snowflakes falling used to.

[Dan Soder]

I think it's been about. I can't remember when it. Last night but when it does, even if it's like this much, all the trains are canceled. So we're not ready for any weather. Like the most shops don't have aircon. So if it's a heat wave you're.

[Red Richardson]

I was that. I was in London for the hottest day ever recorded. It was like summer of 2022.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And I was doing shows at the Soho Theater.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And your guys air conditioning sucks.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Yeah. It's horrible.

[Red Richardson]

And you don't have ice.

[Dan Soder]

It's.

[Red Richardson]

You don't have the two most important things for the summer.

[Dan Soder]

None of it. How'd you find something there?

[Red Richardson]

I. I liked it.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

I liked it. I was working on. I was like building up the hour so it was perfect.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Because it was just like every night go downstairs, work on the hours.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. Reason I liked Fringe.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Oh, did you do the Fringe?

[Red Richardson]

I did fringe in 2019 and you just do that hour.

[Dan Soder]

Where were you?

[Red Richardson]

I was at the medical school. I was at the Edinburgh Med School. It was like. I forget what the name of the stage was.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But it was cool as.

[Dan Soder]

I want the not Pleasants. There's Pleasant school. Balloon Underbelly. I can't.

[Red Richardson]

I was Underbelly.

[Dan Soder]

Underbelly.

[Red Richardson]

I was Underbelly.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And I was in like one of the lecture halls that sat about 115 people was cool. Haunted as hell.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But really cool. Very funny feeling. UK audiences not, like, specific sex jokes.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. What.

[Red Richardson]

What.

[Dan Soder]

What would you find?

[Red Richardson]

I talked about eating ass and everyone was like, you know what it was, you know, when they. What are they?

[Dan Soder]

American?

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. Really? It made me feel like nacho cheese is a person.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Like, I was going like, oh, my.

[Dan Soder]

Edinburgh is specially for that.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

So Edinburgh's a arts festival, which means a lot of it's rubbish, but that's what I mean.

[Red Richardson]

I think if I would have cried after talking about it, they would have given me.

[Dan Soder]

If you said, I've got an addiction, and it stems from when I was 6, my ass was eaten by my uncle. By my uncle.

[Red Richardson]

He called it a bowl of chili.

[Dan Soder]

Then you were. And then I go, it's a weird place. Yeah. We have a different system to you. So, like, we. That Edinburgh now has kind of died, which I'm. I'm glad for.

[Red Richardson]

Are you one of. Did you. Have you done it a lot?

[Dan Soder]

Done it more? I've done it twice with full shows. I have a real. I've never had a great run. I've never been the.

[Red Richardson]

I feel like. And this is just an outsider's perspective.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But I feel like Edinburgh, the Fringe Festival, specifically the UK comics, is like the comedy. The UK comedy version of the CIA, where they get people who go, we can indoctrinate you pretty easy. And then you're like, natural police.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Red Richardson]

You're like a murder detective, where you're like, yeah. You go, yeah, I take it. I take some bribes on the side, but that's to keep my heat off.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You know what I am doing? I'm putting cases in the black.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. No, it is that I feel that

[Red Richardson]

energy from Red where he's like, by the way, this is Red Richardson. Go watch bugatti live on YouTube right now. The link is below. It's fucking hilarious. Thank you. On. There was. There was a joke that I was so good that I was mad at you. Like, when people write jokes and you go, like, yeah, yeah. There I was trying. There's, like two. One joke I wanted to compliment you on is I saw your don't tell joke about old guys watching. Talking about sports. And then when you watch Bugatti live, the jokes, like, completely evolved.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, wicked. Thanks, man.

[Red Richardson]

But the dildo line, I was really mad about you finding your sister. Go watch that. But you watch it and you go, that's good. What a good punchline.

[Dan Soder]

I actually was gonna open With. I opened a tour with that and then with YouTube you go. They've got five second attention spans.

[Red Richardson]

Great way you did it. I love the way you did with the Filipino kid.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Playing the guitar. But then going into it. But then. Yeah, dude. I mean the joke about Uber and all that, I loved it, man.

[Dan Soder]

Thanks a lot.

[Red Richardson]

A lot of times I watch. I call like watching stand up for me is like a rodeo. I just see how long I can hang.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

I made it through. I. I mean I watched your whole special.

[Dan Soder]

All eight minutes.

[Red Richardson]

No, no, no. I watch Bugatti Live. Yeah, yeah, I watched the whole special. But don't tell. I was like, let me start with this.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, well, a lot of the same bite size. Yeah, yeah, that's it. I know. I find comedy can. Comedies can be horrible to watch. I find. I'm surprised it's as popular as it is.

[Red Richardson]

I'm, I'm. I'm always really impressed with like, like die hard comedy fans.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You could take that much in.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Well, There's a whole YouTube for your scene. Is our whole ecosystem. We don't have that in England.

[Red Richardson]

Really.

[Dan Soder]

And I'm glad we don't. I don't think my stuff would stand. I don't think. But personally I could stand the scrutiny.

[Red Richardson]

Oh, well. Yeah. Well, you can't.

[Dan Soder]

You know what?

[Red Richardson]

I didn't even think about that. It's almost like Spartan training for American comedians. First time I read my comments on YouTube.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Was the second time I did Conan O' Brien and I didn't do well.

[Dan Soder]

Were they bad comments?

[Red Richardson]

They were. Here's the thing. I bet most people, if they read them they'd go, that wasn't so bad. But it's how it makes impact on you.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It's just how it's like. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

But again, it can get you.

[Red Richardson]

It just got right under my roof.

[Dan Soder]

I get some. I don't care. They'll be like fat. I don't give a. And someone be like, this guy's not funny at all. I'm like, at all like a little bit. And a guy with the other day wrote, don't quit your J job. And I was almost like, this is my job.

[Red Richardson]

So good. I want. You're actually being supportive and you didn't

[Dan Soder]

know that I should stay doing this.

[Red Richardson]

You actually told me I needed.

[Dan Soder]

No, it's funny when it. Because you shouldn't. And everyone goes, I don't read the comments. Everyone reads everyone.

[Red Richardson]

Everyone knows every single human being on because it's the curiosity of insecurity. And the curiosity of insecurity wouldn't make you do stand up.

[Dan Soder]

No.

[Red Richardson]

Unless you wanted to read the comments. But I will say you do develop a, like, scar tissue over it. Where now it's not really worth my time to go do it, because once in a while you catch one and

[Dan Soder]

you go, oh, there's the usual ones. And it's weird how easy you start to deal with it, but the surprising ones.

[Red Richardson]

And then, you know, my fiance will come in the room, and I'm looking at my phone and it's got the wind knocked out of me, but it's like, I'm trying to talk to her. She's like, what do you want for dinner? I'm like. And she goes, what happened? I go. Said my premise was weak.

[Dan Soder]

Timmy69 said, when does the comedy stop?

[Red Richardson]

Dark Lord54 said, I'm glad your dad's dead not to watch this.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But the second comment on Bugatti Live is hilarious. Where someone wrote, this guy looks like he's good at bowling.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And that's the flip side of the same coin.

[Dan Soder]

Some people are hilarious. I've had one guy called me John Snow Globe. Which. Good man.

[Red Richardson]

That's fantastic. That's fantastic. That was when it detonated in my brain.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

After you said that rose, like. Like, you walked away. Whoever wrote that comment, I just want you to know that when Red said that, you, in my head, you're the guy that flicks the cigarette behind him and it exploded. Except with Jon Snow. God damn, That's a great joke when

[Dan Soder]

someone does something like that. He's not even a comedian. He probably could be, but he just can't be honest.

[Red Richardson]

Those are the people. And this has been talked about ad nauseam, especially in the American scene. But it's true. It's the guys that are, like, on construction sites or bartenders or people that are always way funnier than us.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. And they write the best some. I check out the comments on every video that you know. When you see someone, they've got a weird head or something. You're like, oh, God, why have they done this? Why?

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

It'll be like. They'll be like a really fat girl or something. Being like 10 things I don't like for Menula. Oh, no, those are the best.

[Red Richardson]

And the comments section has become an art form.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Red Richardson]

Where there are people that can hit it.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Like 50,000 likes.

[Red Richardson]

She showed me a video of a dog, right? Dog on the beach, curly hair, and the sun is going. And the Dog's doing that with its eyes, but it's like, shot from behind and looking in the top. Comments like, girl looks like she just got through a divorce. And you're like. Immediately the comments like, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And it's great.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

So people that act like the comment section doesn't exist, You're. You're being an. To those that are good at it.

[Dan Soder]

I was. There's a guy who's. He's got a big head and he sings. He's unfortunate, but it's like a pro. Like a. I can't remember what the syndrome is.

[Red Richardson]

Oh, he's got. He's got an.

[Dan Soder]

He's got an. His teeth are small, but he's this Aussie guy and he likes to sing. And it's. So the worst thing is, I always check the comments on his. And he likes the one out of every 100. That's nice. He's gonna go, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Which means he's going through that.

[Dan Soder]

And the top comment in one of his videos, someone just wrote, this guy's a sniper's wet dream.

[Red Richardson]

That's great.

[Dan Soder]

And then someone wrote, ignore all the positive comments. Yeah, that's.

[Red Richardson]

I always think that's like. That's the part of the disconnect that people get.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Where they go. I don't read the comment section. It's like, well, at least be honest.

[Dan Soder]

At least tell me that sometimes.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

It's feedback.

[Red Richardson]

You know what it is? Sometimes it's easier to give advice when someone's not looking at you face to face.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But you also should take that with a. With, you know, there's going to be

[Dan Soder]

some guy who goes, this is awful. You should kill yourself. Don't do that. But, like, with the. I think in a roundabout way, they don't turn on people for no reason.

[Red Richardson]

It's not just, where there's smoke, there's fire.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Red Richardson]

If people are shitting on you this hard, maybe go, why do I suck?

[Dan Soder]

Maybe. Maybe something's wrong.

[Red Richardson]

Because, dude, I've had notes, like, I just did podcast, and one of the comments was like, sodor needs to talk 20% less. And I was like, great.

[Dan Soder]

Now maybe you're right.

[Red Richardson]

I go, great note.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You know who hates me more than anybody, buddy? That position's filled.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

I gotta. I got me. I got another me in my head at a desk. Being like, that sucks.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

This guy sucks. So bring it.

[Dan Soder]

I know. Well, they are us, aren't they?

[Red Richardson]

It's a reflection of. It's just. You just read that and you go like, I get it.

[Dan Soder]

Comedians. So would. I wouldn't be supposing there's a comic who has a burner account and imbues themselves on it, you know what I mean?

[Red Richardson]

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[Dan Soder]

My mate does Josh, well, a good comic. He does, like. He'll do, like, jokes about, like, music and stuff like that, but he gets genuine death threats. He's. I don't know why. So because you're with someone's grandma's funeral song or what? You know what I mean? Music has such. Or, like, you'll make a joke about film and they go, why don't you die? People, like, hate it.

[Red Richardson]

Well, there's the emotional connection.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It's. If you talk about music or like, beloved people.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

In a funny way, they'll be like,

[Dan Soder]

oh, what are you doing?

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, we see that. You know Taylor Swift, like, anybody that brings up Taylor Swift, they're like, you got a hit out on you.

[Dan Soder]

Comedian in England had to call the police. This woman in Vietnam would say she's gonna fly over and kill her because she made a Taylor Swift joke all

[Red Richardson]

the way from Vietnam.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. She's not gonna kill you. And it ends up like, she end up talking to the parents who were like, look, she's just really into Taylor Swift. Sorry about that.

[Red Richardson]

If you're on a international phone call.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Apologizing for your daughter's murder threat. I don't know if she's just a big fan.

[Dan Soder]

Is mad.

[Red Richardson]

I don't know if that's the way out of that one. Yeah, yeah. She goes, hey, I. You know, I can't deny your friend is like, no, I can't deny. Yeah, she's.

[Dan Soder]

Because our fans are really nuts, though. I think people have, like.

[Red Richardson]

I think there's a bunch of different musicians who have that kind of. Because, like, what you were saying, it's like their wedding song or when they were getting out of something, they had a song and you're like this. It made me feel something for the first time in 15 years.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. That's comics should never have that emotional attachment.

[Dan Soder]

No.

[Red Richardson]

You should just go.

[Dan Soder]

I don't think we ever do. I don't think anyone gives a. Jokes don't age well.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. I think the best I've ever hoped for is being the guy you're excited to work with at a shitty job.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. That's the energy I want to have.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You're, like, going in, you're putting your apron on, and you're gonna go fill the ice. And you see I'm working. You go, all right.

[Dan Soder]

Okay. Yeah. There you want to go have a

[Red Richardson]

smoke break and talk about everyone, buddy, I'm very hungover. It's all I want.

[Dan Soder]

Yours. Like, your comedy scene's way more like, I went to Los Angeles just before I went to LA first, then Vancouver, than here.

[Red Richardson]

Have you been to LA before?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, once, two years ago. But it's mad. Like, I follow that thing on Instagram, like the. The Comedy Store page. And they'll be like, Tarantino will be in there and stuff. We don't. Comedy is not cool in England. Like, it is seen here.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. I think LA has the advantage of all the famous people live there.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Red Richardson]

And so I think there's just, like, famous people want to go to see stand up. Because sometimes we'll have that here in New York.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But it's like the seller. So it's always. The famous person is always wearing a pea coat and a Yankees hat.

[Dan Soder]

Really?

[Red Richardson]

And it's like, yeah, Leo was there.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Like, cool. But they don't. Who just did a show for 11 from Stranger Things. Millie. Bobby Brown.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Red Richardson]

She came to, like, a show because one of the guys at SNL was on it. And the other comics are like, it truly shows what kind of animals they are because they all just freeze and, like, look at her. Like,

[Dan Soder]

yeah, I did the Laugh Factory and I didn't see her, but my mate was there and he was like, I was sat behind Sydney Sweeney. She was there.

[Red Richardson]

Damn.

[Dan Soder]

I just thought, why are you here?

[Red Richardson]

Just. Just your game up.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Do you think your set would have been up if you knew she was there?

[Dan Soder]

Yes. Yes.

[Red Richardson]

Because you would have been thinking, like, making a joke about big boobs.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Yeah. Or I just start saying loads of MAGA stuff to try and get on a good person.

[Red Richardson]

You go, you know who's doing great work right now? The men and women of Ice.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

She's like, yeah, I'm gonna. I'm taking myself out. I gotta fly.

[Dan Soder]

She's like, this guy, this is the best.

[Red Richardson]

Take his Pants.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, but I. She was there with a guy, so I think she's dating that guy who was managed wherever the swifties want to kill him.

[Red Richardson]

Oh, Scooter brawn.

[Dan Soder]

He had BIE and her, didn't he?

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

What a stable.

[Red Richardson]

That's the guy you want to like you.

[Dan Soder]

I know.

[Red Richardson]

He comes in, he goes, have you ever thought about joining the Illuminati? Yeah, yeah, I have thought about going publicly crazy.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Yeah, that would be.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

But because she. I did a soap advert in the UK and at the same time she was the American, so she was. It was the doctor Squat soap.

[Red Richardson]

Okay.

[Dan Soder]

And we were like. My mate was like, why don't we stay and see if she knows that you did the English. I was like, let's just leave. That's because I would have been going up to go. So you know. You did. I was the UK to you in a way. And she'd be like, I don't know who the.

[Red Richardson]

Or you just lead at the handshake. You go, Sasquatch soap.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Okay.

[Dan Soder]

Well, also they sent me her bath water because they had the, you know, the. So I've got three bars of her bath. I could have said that.

[Red Richardson]

Could you go? That's great. You go now. I'm going to drink it.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, just blow her head up.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. Oh, that's cool. I'm not washing this until I drink your bath water.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, is good to put a face to the bathwater. Hey, hey, Sydney. Is that.

[Red Richardson]

You know what, it's crazy is you don't smell like your bathroom at all. And that's from the drain.

[Dan Soder]

What are you talking about?

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, man. The. The. I. I probably think one of the worst existences would have to be an iconic sexy lady.

[Dan Soder]

What? I'm trying to just be out in public. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Just to be out in public. Ah, just like.

[Dan Soder]

Well, because everyone wants to. Or kill you. It's horrible.

[Red Richardson]

I need you as a trophy.

[Dan Soder]

The amount of like even, like even sort of average looking female comedians get there in boxing death threats. Imagine being Sydney Sweeney.

[Red Richardson]

I mean, it's got to be the

[Dan Soder]

things people want to do to you. It's like being president.

[Red Richardson]

If I think through your Sasquatch relations, Sydney Sweeney should give us her Instagram and let us go through. Not the requests. No, the hidden requests.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, that's the really deep.

[Red Richardson]

No, I want to know the crazy Sydney Sweeney. Let Red and I. Yeah. Read your hidden requests on Instagram and

[Dan Soder]

we'll unredacted so many.

[Red Richardson]

Oh my God. Well. Oh, I can't wait to see. I'm gonna. I'm gonna run through her hidden requests through dick. Like in Gladiator, when his hand goes through, but it's just random, ugly, weird, bent penises.

[Dan Soder]

Be like shock. Made of just dicks.

[Red Richardson]

There's a dick growing out of these dicks. Yeah. Her inbox. Any, like, really hot girls inbox.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

That would. That's a great way to blow up someone's life. It's just to show up at their house and be like, here's your husband.

[Dan Soder]

Do you remember fraping? I was thinking about this the other day. We used to do it in England. It was.

[Red Richardson]

I don't like that.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Fraping. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Anything with aping. Now this just sounds like a different flavor.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. It was basically a trend. You'd leave your Facebook on in someone's laptop, and they'd go on and go, I need eight in my mouth right now.

[Red Richardson]

Shout out. My friend Brian.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

This is how old I am. I was in college when Facebook came out, and you had to be in college to join it. And that was like, you had to sign up with your university email.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

To get a Facebook profile. It was brand new, dude. When that hit the market and you went home for Thanksgiving or whatever, and you're like, are you on Facebook? Oh, yeah. And I'm like. Because for once, you could show profiles of girls that you knew to be like, yo, check out this girl is I friend. This girl on Facebook.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And I got. I got. I got frighted.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

By. We're at my friend's house, and I log in, and my friend watched me log in, and then I logged out, and then I left. And then, like, I fly back to Arizona where I was going to school, and I. I would always. It wasn't. You didn't have smartphone. It wasn't on your phone. I literally had a flip. I had a phone, you guys.

[Dan Soder]

Three days with the app.

[Red Richardson]

I signed on to Facebook and a girl that I had, like, a major crush on. I saw her name in the inbox.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And immediately I'm like, this is it. It's happening.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Why? And I click on it, and it. The messages. That's really great. I'm here for you anytime you want to talk. IGA cough. And I'm like. I'm still thinking, like, oh, I got a shot.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And then I look at. My buddy wrote her like, hey, I'm having a hard time telling people this, but I'm gay.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, yeah. Cool.

[Red Richardson]

And I really. But he wrote it in Like a sentimental way. And then beat and pasted it and just went to girls that I was friends with and just dropped it. So I had messages from girls that were like, this is brave.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You had to be like, no, I'm not gay. I actually want to. You. I want to. You sure you do.

[Dan Soder]

Now they're gonna go, oh, not only is he not gay, he's also so immature because this is his friendship group.

[Red Richardson]

You know, that's your. That's your. By the way, Brian was my smartest friend. It's my smartest. And he go, it's actually pretty smarty. Thought to watch me log in. They go, no, it used to be

[Dan Soder]

Facebook, like tag a friend who's gay. Up until my early 30s, still. Still the best joke in town.

[Red Richardson]

It really worked. I mean, I still think it works.

[Dan Soder]

It's still good.

[Red Richardson]

It still works.

[Dan Soder]

I think it's still gonna be funny. I don't think.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, a mention of your name and like, drop your friend's name. That really needs gay sex today. Yeah, But I think that's what we broke. Like, I think if you're under the age of 30, you don't realize that Facebook was everything we have now, all condensed.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And then we broke it.

[Dan Soder]

Like, the Internet was literally chat rooms. Me and my mate go on. And you just start a fight with someone in Romania and you'd be like, your country's dog. And then it'd be back and forth.

[Red Richardson]

Or you're 12 and you're like, age, sex, location, like on AR. Well, and you'd be like, do you want a cyber?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

I remember telling this girl, I was like 21 and like, my mom's like downstairs cooking dinner and I'm like, yeah, I'm a 21 year old guy. I love sex. And the girl was like, yeah, let's have sex. And I was like, oh, we're typing. And then she was like, ooh, my underwear is full of cum. And I go, women can't come like that. She was like, what? And I was like, I go, or can they?

[Dan Soder]

Just kidding.

[Red Richardson]

My mom's cooking dinner. I gotta go. Yeah, you're a file. I'm 12.

[Dan Soder]

It was the boomers joining ruined it all. Because no one was on there. Journalists weren't on. There was like, when Twitter became a thing, it suddenly people had it. So politicians started, you know, before it was literally for us to call each other gay.

[Red Richardson]

That's it.

[Dan Soder]

That was the only reason.

[Red Richardson]

It's a giant place to go. Look at this meme someone made you're gay.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Yeah. And then suddenly the elections and stuff.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. The cops came in.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

They were like, hey, cool party, guys. Oh, this is where everyone's friends. That's a psyop. You're not real. You're not a real friend.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Hey, we're TurboTax.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Follow us. Why? I don't want to talk about taxes.

[Dan Soder]

No, it's. It's been ruined. But I don't know where it goes for me. I wonder if the new kids will go, this is so lame.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. It's gonna burn off. We've talked about that a bunch on the podcast of like, yeah, kids are going to respond in a way that we responded. Stuff like flags. Let it lead in the gasoline.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Like that ruined our parents. That's why boomers have no emotional control. I bring it up all the time because you go once you realize, look up. For anyone that's curious, look up the Duke University co study with Florida State University on the toxicity level of lead.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Red Richardson]

That was in paint and gasoline in the United states in the 70s.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

All the movies of the 80s make sense.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Red Richardson]

Because it's all. They're doing coke and they have lead brain.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And they're like, what if they just killed everybody?

[Dan Soder]

And then they were raised by people who went through a war, but they didn't go through the war. But they started the residue of it.

[Red Richardson]

Exactly.

[Dan Soder]

And then they.

[Red Richardson]

Your parents, I mean, we had Vietnam.

[Dan Soder]

My dad is a. World War II is his religion. They say about the England they go two religions in England. NHS and World War II. But my dad, in his mind, England is just some jolly. If we just dig this tunnel under there and none of the like concentration camps in the bo war or any of that comes into his eyes. It's all that's cycling through a village.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

You know, old lady souls of murder. You know what I mean? It's that sort of. It's ignore everything else.

[Red Richardson]

You know, in his mind, he's like, well, we're gonna go save these people.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

In the world.

[Dan Soder]

You know?

[Red Richardson]

And you go, what about all the colonization?

[Dan Soder]

We taught Indians cricket.

[Red Richardson]

Hello.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And look how they're doing.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

That's. That is like. You know, that is the one thing that I love about the Olympics is that you can remove everything and just go like, I want my country to beat the out of this.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And that's all in a game with rules that are going to be monitored. It's just like safe war.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Where no one gets hurt. And you're like, yeah, you Norway. And you have no problem with Norway.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But if we're cross country skiing those sons of, of the Third Reich.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. It's so true.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. And it is like, I think that's what, that's the World Cup. The World Cup's going to be so

[Dan Soder]

like an England flag. Weirdly, like, outside of football, a lot of people would go, that's like a racial statement. If you, if you pop a, an England flag or there's, you know, St. George's Cross on your house, you kind of. The implication would be like, this guy hates black people. You know, really. Well, it's come. It's a shame because it shouldn't, but like, it's come to sort of for some people to represent that. And it like.

[Red Richardson]

Well, that's what the. That's like always the thing that blew my mind when I would see, like, protests or whatever and they're, they're waving like flags that aren't American. You're like, yeah, fly the American flag.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Own it.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Hey, we're America.

[Dan Soder]

Well, that's the thing. If you just, you can say the, the flag can mean like racism or it can mean the Beatles or. You know what I mean? Like, what are you talking about?

[Red Richardson]

American flag can mean baseball.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, baseball.

[Red Richardson]

Like, that's the whole thing that people don't realize is like, it's, it's. There are so many people that are stupid.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

That they only go off what they see, where they see in both ways. They could be like, that guy's racist. And meanwhile he's like, I'm just proud of it.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It's like your dad, I love the nhs. And there are guys where you fly around, you go, that, that's. Feel like that guy's. Now for us, what we have is the Confederate flag.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Where people go. Where they go. Hey, yeah, I'm letting you know something without letting you know something. And anyone that tries to go, it's just sweet Dixie. It's like you guys tried to overthrow the government and you lost. Don't tell me it's somehow patriotic.

[Dan Soder]

It's because you couldn't keep slaves.

[Red Richardson]

They go, no, it wasn't. Yeah, it was states rights. That's the one benefit of the Epstein files.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Is it just shows you all the little crooks and things they hide behind to go, no, no, no.

[Dan Soder]

That's about ignored involvement. That's the left alike. Trump's in it. The right alike. It's All Clinton.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. Well, then get them both.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, get them. What if we get both?

[Red Richardson]

That's what Pam Bondi recently was like. If we went after everybody, this system would fail.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, great. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Time for a new system. It looks like something else if all these fucking pervs are running it. Yeah, get the fuck out of here. And then there's people that defend it. Where you go, buddy, I don't think you're listening out loud to what you're saying. You're straight up defending pedophiles.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Red Richardson]

Like, oh, so they want to do business. What the are you talking about?

[Dan Soder]

It's a weird one, isn't it? Because it's like how the Internet is. So now they're like, oh, there's trap doors. They went out to the sea, and Epstein would feed kids to sharks. I don't know how much is real anymore.

[Red Richardson]

Tim Dylan did a fantastic job talking about the Epstein files. And he shows the shark door, and he's like, who's going through the door? Yeah, I want to know who's going through the door also. That's crazy. That's a James Bond.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Villain. Villain.

[Dan Soder]

We's a billionaire.

[Red Richardson]

He's a James Bond villain. The resources now just being, like, feeder to sharks.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Damn.

[Dan Soder]

Is that real? How real is that?

[Red Richardson]

Honestly, at this point, we don't know. I think it's very real. Yeah, I think it's very real. It's like the first time I saw Snatch, and Bricktop gives the speech about pig farmers.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And I went, that feels real.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

That feels like if you want to get rid of a body, six hungry pigs. And he says that thing. He's like, bite through a bone like butter.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Oh, yeah. I bet that's a real thing.

[Dan Soder]

Of course. Yeah. So, yeah, a shark door and what you just throw.

[Red Richardson]

I don't know. Listen, this is. I know this. I know this feels a little apathetic, and maybe I might have. Mike cut this out of the podcast, but in a way, these people that are detached from humanity like that. It's a garbage display.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Have you ever had a sink without a garbage disposal? I don't know if you have them in the uk. We have these, you know, these things where it's a switch and it's a blade at the bottom of your sink, and it goes. And it just grinds everything up.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But, you know, crazy, if you saw that and then you went back to England, you'd be like, well, I want a garbage disposal.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. So Jeffrey Epstein's at another pedal's house.

[Dan Soder]

How'd you get that?

[Red Richardson]

Is it a shark door?

[Dan Soder]

You have a shock door.

[Red Richardson]

He goes, I got the. I'll give you the guy's number. He's showing it as he's opening it. He goes, this guy. And you know what's great? He works quiet. You won't even know they're in the house. But, yeah, it's just like an open door to the sea. And you go, I don't know. The. The casual friends of Jeffrey Epson. It's mad is he's trying to get a movie made. And you go, oh, that's a shark door.

[Dan Soder]

How do they meet each other? How'd you find out someone else is a petty guy? You just on the off chance.

[Red Richardson]

But I also. I think, like. I think like the. To me, everything I'm reading, it looks like the pedophilia was like the VIP lounge where. Yeah, there were people that were partying with Epstein where they're like, didd. Yeah. Where they're like. This is just. Same thing with. There's parallels where you go, oh, I'm at the party. Everyone's wearing white now. The lights are off. Everyone's on round beds covered in oil, taking ecstasy.

[Dan Soder]

Have you seen that video when Diddy comes out, it's daytime, and he comes out in the balcony with a megaphone. He's like, all the kids have got an hour to leave. Like the purge.

[Red Richardson]

I just took a bite here.

[Dan Soder]

He's, like, about to kick.

[Red Richardson]

He took a boner pill and. And I'm wearing white silk.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

So it's going to be pretty obvious what's happening in about T minus 13. I need everyone who's little to get the out of here.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It's also. Just sounds exhausting, you know, I'm an alcoholic. I can't. I loved your joke about quitting drinking and loving sugar.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You're like, for that week of that, then I'm like, that.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But it's true. You just, like, love sugar. I'm so glad I'm not a sex addict.

[Dan Soder]

It's the worst one.

[Red Richardson]

It's the worst one.

[Dan Soder]

Someone had a good joke. Is it Glenn Wall?

[Red Richardson]

He's unbelievable. I love Glenn.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. He had a joke about Russell Brand and it was. He said, I've never met an addict because they're talking about his rape triggers. I never met an addict that didn't steal the thing he liked.

[Red Richardson]

That's a fantastic joke.

[Dan Soder]

I can't remember exactly how he Put it. I butchered it. But yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

So true is the man.

[Dan Soder]

He's great.

[Red Richardson]

But yeah, that is. Is. That is the. Like, that's an addiction where you go, yeah. Oh, you'll blow your whole life up.

[Dan Soder]

But people do. And the weirdest ones are the sex addicts who don't drink or anything.

[Red Richardson]

That's always been the one to me where I go, ew.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

So you're like, in that zone, but

[Dan Soder]

you're also in the bars and everyone's drunk. And how, like, oh, when you're sober, the worst thing to be around is drunk people.

[Red Richardson]

I don't podcast with people that just woke up. I don't stick a mic in there. We're talking for an hour. I was just with my grandma.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

I was just flying kites with my grandma. Why are you in my face? Me and Mike got giant lights. Hey, we're trying to sell ads.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, it's. It's a tough, tough decade for the sex addicts, I think.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. Well, everyone's waking up and going like, wait a second, you guys are all friends and you're doing worse things.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Because that, like, getting invited to the VIP section of the Epstein thing where he's like, so do you like kids? He's like, oh, yeah, I got a couple. And they go, right, right.

[Dan Soder]

How he got Andrews, the fact that where were his handlers and stuff like that.

[Red Richardson]

That's how horny Prince Andrew was.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

He was like, get off of me. Yeah, I gotta some tea.

[Dan Soder]

No, I just. Because he's clearly been played and easy got arrested last week.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. You guys are actually doing something.

[Dan Soder]

It might be, you know, they're actually going after brothers just hung him out. He's been him. You know, he kicked him out, taking his title, so he's just Andrew.

[Red Richardson]

But I appreciate the Royal Family for that.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

The. Just pure backstabbing out in the open. Only. Only England could go kill him. Yes. You guys are the only country they get. We're like, that's my brother. I made a lot of good with him. I love him.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

England. You're like, like, take it. It's so. It reminds me of the scene in Braveheart where he's like, Shane and I always talk about the scene where he's like, fire the arrows. They go, sir, that'll hit our men. He goes, it'll hit theirs. Too

[Dan Soder]

long shanks.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, yeah, dude, you'll get business taken care of. Yeah, but we're not doing anything. We're going like, well, we're still going. We're rubbing our hands going, is it everybody but who everybody?

[Dan Soder]

Thing is, is, what does it mean to be in the files? Like, there's comedians in the files.

[Red Richardson]

I'm in the files.

[Dan Soder]

Else. Oh, really? That's amazing.

[Red Richardson]

Why? Lineup from Comedy Central's Comedy Underground with Davitel. Yeah, he was hosting it. I'm on the lineup. Pete Davidson and I are on the same lineup. And Pete texted me the picture and he goes, look at this lineup. It was me, Pete, Kurt Metzger, Davitel. But there's a bunch of comics. Lewis, Big J, a lot of my friends.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Because they're seller lineups. Because he lived here. So they were just sending him like. Like, hey, here's who at the.

[Dan Soder]

Who said, I'm getting closer.

[Red Richardson]

I might. I'm gonna kill you. What you don't know is my fiance is a massage trained assassin. And you will be taken out the second you go in the hallway. Yeah, yeah. It's just. That's the thing where you. Where you go. I'm a. I'm a people pleaser.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

So I feel like I could have been caught up in that in my 20s if they were like, if you meet this guy, he's pretty important.

[Dan Soder]

Well, he's a billionaire. And it's like he was like, like, who's not going to party on an island with a billionaire? There's a British comedian called Michelle de Swart. She was a model out here in. During 9 11.

[Red Richardson]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And I'm familiar. This is true. She did. She's done a whole routine on it. But she. Her modeling agency got a call on 911 from Jeffrey Epstein because they're all like 15, and he's like, I have a plane. The models on your books want saving on my plane. Right? So he was gonna rescue them from.

[Red Richardson]

That's so funny. 911, Jeffrey, who should we get? He goes, Young, hot 15 year olds. We need to go save them.

[Dan Soder]

He just plane going, I need a plane.

[Red Richardson]

I need a plane full of young nubile girls, please.

[Dan Soder]

His personal. Not his mother, not any relatives.

[Red Richardson]

Kicks her out of here. Oh, sir, please. I'm your loyal house. I'm your. I'm your maid. Get out of here. Go by the middle school. What do you guys need? It's 2001. What's in right now? What's in right now? I think the ipods. Get him an ipod.

[Dan Soder]

Imagine fleeing 9 be flying out of New York and, you know, buildings have collapsed and then you just turn around. Epstein's just Pulled his out.

[Red Richardson]

Well, we got out of that one.

[Dan Soder]

Jesus Christ.

[Red Richardson]

What's also so. One of the worst, you know, obviously these guys are. They should all burn in hell. They should be publicly executed. I'm always like, the part of Helia that blows me away is that these guys can have with kids and then still hang around them where they're like, what are you doing? What's that? He goes, don't touch that. Yeah, yeah, please don't touch that.

[Dan Soder]

Who are the Rolling Stones? Oh, you wouldn't get it.

[Red Richardson]

Prince Andrew. True. Being like upset. Being like, you stupid Mick Jagger, you idiot.

[Dan Soder]

Your dad never show you the Stones.

[Red Richardson]

Your dad's got taste in music. Maybe. Maybe if your dad had better taste in music, you wouldn't be getting right now. You go, jesus. But there is like that thing of like, so you're so horny, you're going to kids and hang out with me.

[Dan Soder]

That's crazy, dude.

[Red Richardson]

I'm around my cousin's teenage kids, I'm

[Dan Soder]

like, yeah, even like a 24 year old. You mean now you're like, you just shut up. You know what I mean?

[Red Richardson]

Dude, they were just at the comedy seller last week. There was like three 22 year old girls right to the stage. Pretty. Like pretty.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

I say that mean. Pretty. Ruined the show. He was there.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

They're just like talking and they go, and then what? Remember when I went up? They were like, yeah, like I was gonna be like. And I was like, shut the up. No.

[Dan Soder]

And then like, no, it's the worst when Because a drunk woman can ruin a show. Because the problem is, is men want to be put down. Like, you have a group of men and they're like, they'll come and go to my mate's birthday. Can you call them gay and Facebook

[Red Richardson]

him in real life?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Women will go and they'll be like, it's. They're at the show, but they're also the show. They're adding four glasses of wine. And then you make one, you'll say something to one of them and they'll start crying. And then the other friend would be like, you piece of. She's an angel. And the problem is though, is you can't carry on because the minute they start crying, it's an unblockable move because no matter how much the crowd hates them there, suddenly it's a crying woman. I was in a show in Bristol in England. It was this tiny room. It was like 40 seats. You know, the crowd is kind of pitch black. This woman's Just ruining the show. And I said something to her.

[Red Richardson]

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[Dan Soder]

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[Red Richardson]

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[Dan Soder]

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[Red Richardson]

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[Dan Soder]

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[Red Richardson]

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[Dan Soder]

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[Red Richardson]

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[Dan Soder]

The crowd is kind of pitch black. This woman's just ruining the show. And I said something to her and everyone laughed. You know, I got an applause break and then I carried on. I went to carry on, then we just heard and I just was like, oh, for

[Red Richardson]

coming out of the darkness after a punchline where there's just like

[Dan Soder]

a lull for sake. And it ruined the gig.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, because you hit a punchline and you go, I said broccoli. More like your on fire. And then it stops. You go, I'm like, excuse me, who's the wailing woman? Excuse me, this ghost of a woman is in your comedy.

[Dan Soder]

You try and do other bits. You know anyone? Anyone been with Uber recently there?

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Are they going worse or is it

[Red Richardson]

just me going into a bit after you made a woman cry? You go, I'll tell you what's crazy right now is the stock market. I don't even know what's going on with this.

[Dan Soder]

And she's like, she's still crying.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Nice. So that's the worst.

[Red Richardson]

I used to always like, never want to have conflict with the audience member. So I'd always be like, just let it. They're talking. Yeah, I'll just let them carry over. And then I got really into kicking people out, but it's harder. I'm doing a theater run which is ending in. In April.

[Dan Soder]

Yep.

[Red Richardson]

But clubs, it's so easy to kick people out.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Because you're like, you out of here.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Theater. You're like, it's dark and you're like, who did that kick Them out.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where are you? And then they gotta get down and walk down.

[Red Richardson]

Walk down the island.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

With their flashlight.

[Dan Soder]

How do you do it? It. Because I always find it. I can't. I don't kick people out, because when I do, I have done before. But the problem is, you're no longer the fun guy. You know what I mean?

[Red Richardson]

A way around this, something that I saw Patrice o' Neill do back in the day in New York clubs was someone would be talking. He would engage with them. He'd like on them. They keep talking. They kind of wouldn't catch the point.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

That this is over. The interaction's over with, and they start to ruin the show. And then you go, hey, can you be quiet? They keep going. And then you go, you know what? I'm gonna pay for your bill. How many people are with you? They're like, oh, four people paying my bill. He's like, great, I'm paying for your bill. Please leave. I've taken care of your bill. I don't want you at the show. And I watched him do that in awe.

[Dan Soder]

And would he actually pay for the bill?

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. And I've done it, and it works.

[Dan Soder]

Really?

[Red Richardson]

It's worth the money to pay the bill to have a better show.

[Dan Soder]

What if they've ordered, like, eight bottles of crystal?

[Red Richardson]

You talk to the manager and you go, maybe police the room a little bit better. Yeah, I'm doing your job for you. But if they're. If it's like. A lot of the times, club managers will be like, I'm sorry. We told them to shut up. They wouldn't go. And you're like, fine. And most of the time, club managers are like, we'll comp it. Don't worry.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Red Richardson]

We'll cop it. But I think I was in Virginia Beach. I. It was like, hot. I kicked this woman out. She was a problem. I did that, though. I was like, I'll pay for your bill. I get off stage, and a waitress just hands me the bill. And you go, very fair, Very fair. You put the credit card in there and you go, you know what? But that is the. If you're gonna. If you're gonna run that play, you gotta risk it. That's what happens.

[Dan Soder]

What was.

[Red Richardson]

But it keeps the energy good.

[Dan Soder]

Did you get with Patricia a lot then?

[Red Richardson]

No, No, I only watched him.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

I met him less than 10 times.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Like, I wasn't boys with him. My friends were friends with him. But I was a. You know, this is like, oh, I was here. 07. He died in 2011.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. I maybe had, like, four experiences hanging with him. Too good. Too. Too negative.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Red Richardson]

He was just. It was like, depending on how you caught him.

[Dan Soder]

I watched the. Was it Comedy Central did a documentary on him?

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, yeah. Comedy Central.

[Dan Soder]

But, yeah, it sounded like it could be. Yeah. If he just.

[Red Richardson]

People up.

[Dan Soder]

What was he. What was the. Too bad with him then? Was

[Red Richardson]

both bads were after the goods.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And then I heard Colin Coin explained it on Opie and Anthony, where he said, patrice is up in heaven right now feeling. Making 50 of the people feel comfortable. 50 of the people feeling uncomfortable. And then he's flipping it. Like, he used to love to do that. So if you thought you were comfortable, he'd be like. He would just.

[Dan Soder]

What? Yeah, just go for you.

[Red Richardson]

Oh, God. One time. It was after the first time. First time I met him or, like, talked to him, I was by myself at the bar at Stand Up New York, and, like, the show had emptied out, and he was on the show, and he was just sitting there. We just had a conversation about porn. He was like, who you watching? And I was like, I named the girls. And he was like. I remember him being like. He was flipping through a New York Post, and he was like, okay, well, like, respect. Yeah. I, like, named a couple girls, and he was like, yeah, I with them, too. And they were talking, and then he was. He was, like, super nice because I was by myself. I was doing the check spots. I was just drinking a beer by myself. He was really nice. And so I'll. I'm like, 20, 30, and I'm like, I'm friends with Patrice now, and I, like, grew up loving. Tough crowd in oa.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And I come back in, and I see him against Damn New York. I go, patrice, what's up? And he goes, what the. Patrice, what's up? Who the are you? And I was like, yeah. And you're like a new comic. Like, okay. So I just went out outside, smoked a cigarette, like. And then I.

[Dan Soder]

And then you kind.

[Red Richardson]

But you kind of learned saying in your head over.

[Dan Soder]

Why would you say that, you idiot?

[Red Richardson]

We're talking about ladies, sexy ladies together.

[Dan Soder]

Even though I saw Bill Burr talking about him. Goes. Sometimes I'd walk in, I'd see him, and if he hadn't seen me, I walk past. Because sometimes I just couldn't handle it.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. I mean, that was. That was like the ball busty scene. We. I caught it on a much lower level.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

I caught it on a. I caught it on it it fading out.

[Dan Soder]

I did the stand.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And it was one of the guys from that group, Rich Voss. Yes.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. He's great.

[Dan Soder]

But he walked in and the MC was there and he was like, oh, you fat. And it was. I was like, this is straight away exactly what I've heard. That's what you want. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And it is fun. It is fun. I made. Colin was last night. Colin was at the. We were at the Cellar or whatever, and I made fun of the mc and I was just like, his dead, lifeless eyes, black eyes, doll's eyes. And I get off. And Quinn's like, you. But you're like, that's what we grew up loving.

[Dan Soder]

Yes. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

We joke around now, like me and Lewis and Joe, and we joke around that all those old O A guys and, like, tough crowd guys were so vicious to each other that it's like, you know, old boxers.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Have you ever seen old boxers where they, like, get punched and they go

[Dan Soder]

out quick like Chuck Liddell, where your chin goes.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, exactly.

[Dan Soder]

Ye. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

So we were joking around that their. Their ball busting chin goes. So you got to let them punch you. And you're like, well, you guys are so good. And then you land a hard one. You go, I didn't mean that.

[Dan Soder]

I didn't mean, like, they get sensitive.

[Red Richardson]

I'm not going to name names, but we've had. I've had private phone calls with a couple of them being like, that don't fucking come in there fucking swinging like that.

[Dan Soder]

Really?

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

That's really fun.

[Red Richardson]

You know, I did go a little hard in the paint.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. It's funny hearing them talk about it as well. They're like, you couldn't even wear a T shirt without getting destroyed. You know?

[Red Richardson]

It was true.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And by the way, that culture, even after Patrice died, stayed alive for a little bit. I wore. And I've told this story before, so I'm sorry if you're hearing it again, but I bought with, like, I got a little bit of money from being on MTV too.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Like, that was like my first paycheck where I bought a couch. And then I went out. I was dog sitting for Bobby Kelly. And so I was up in Hell's Kitchen and I walked by an Adidas store and I was like, look at this hoodie. It was like a hoodie. It was blue, but, like, changed colors on the arms. And I was like, like, looks sick. But it was striped.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Just a striped hoodie from Adidas. And I walked into the cellar and I went up the steps of the Cellar, and it was, like, pretty empty in the olive tree. And Sherrod Small and Joe Derosa from the back of the room were like, what the is that sweatshirt? And I was like, what? And then just. And then everyone jumped in. Norton, Keith. Everyone's like, that sweatshirt stinks. Keith was like, you look like you're shoveling trash on the side of the road. You look like a chain gang member. And then I saw that and I was like. Like, on it. I threw. Yeah, I think I wore it in the house twice more and was like,

[Dan Soder]

this is done now.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, it's just. That's what they meant. I got a bad haircut one time. Oh, man. I'd walk. I remember one time, Sherrod tried on Nick Depalo when I was at the cellar. And he's like, nick, what are you doing? Or whatever. And it's just sitting there. And he looks up, he goes, shut up. You look like a retired Celtic from the Boston. Everyone's like, oh, you do. And there was laughing. Sharp was a little overweight at the time. It was great. But, yeah, it kind of what killed it was the mid teens when everyone started getting real sensitive.

[Dan Soder]

Everything became very sensitive.

[Red Richardson]

Trigger words.

[Dan Soder]

It was funny watching. And I used to listen to op Anti and stuff for sort of my generation to suddenly have that and go, wait, what? I thought this is what you did. You know what I mean?

[Red Richardson]

Exactly. The feeling where you're like, no, no, no, I don't really hate him.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Oh, you made fun of him for being black. And you go, yeah, this is my friend. Yeah, I wanted him.

[Dan Soder]

It didn't help anything. You look at now. I create the pendulums that go way back the other way.

[Red Richardson]

Idiots.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You guys held it and you're like, let it go, let it go, let it go.

[Dan Soder]

And look at this now. It's like. It's just.

[Red Richardson]

You're like. You wish for ball busting.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Red Richardson]

You wish for ball.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It didn't.

[Dan Soder]

It made everything worse. It was a pressure, Val. It was like. And then it just. Everything's gone. Bang.

[Red Richardson]

Maybe the ball busting was what was keeping those PED files alive, where everyone's going, yeah, look at this guy. This guy's a real. This guy, kids, am I right? Yeah, yeah, I do.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Really? I do it.

[Dan Soder]

I love one thing. Back to that. But Jiz Lane is not. She's kept her mouth shut.

[Red Richardson]

Have you seen the theory that she got spotted in Canada?

[Dan Soder]

Oh, I saw Blonde Lady.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, that. All right, let's take let's take it down both roads. The first one is. Absolutely would make sense.

[Dan Soder]

And they think they've seen Epstein in Israel.

[Red Richardson]

Absolutely would make sense if both of those people were not imprisoned at all because of all the blackmail that they. Hold on everybody, by the way. This isn't an American problem. This isn't an England problem. This is a worldwide problem. So get your. You could take your flag down. No one's coming after your hot dogs or fireworks. We're talking about the elite having a cabal of control over the entire world. Of course they would let him out.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Go. Get out of here. We got a fat heroin addict that kind of looks like you.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, we're gonna kill him.

[Red Richardson]

He wanted to hang himself. Yeah, we. We gave him Narcan.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

So we could make him look like you to kill him.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Just don't post on social media.

[Red Richardson]

Don't go to the Oasis reunion. This is the only thing. But Ghislaine, you were like, yo, that's her. Like, you saw that video and you're like, that was. And she. When the lady comes up and she's like.

[Dan Soder]

She goes, no.

[Red Richardson]

Do you think you have a hard time if you were. If you were hiding and you, like, got jaw surgery, you know, so you, like, have, like, Squidward. Handsome, Squidward jaw, and then you, like, shave your head. And if someone came up with red,

[Dan Soder]

I'm Harry.

[Red Richardson]

You're. You're like the dog.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

In the Odyssey where you're like, I know that person. I can't recognize.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's horrible.

[Red Richardson]

You go, please. But I would immediately crack.

[Dan Soder]

She was hanging out at someone's house. Do you remember before they arrested her, she was staying at someone's house? I can't remember. I think it was. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And she was just looking at her,

[Dan Soder]

and I think she's all over the news. And he probably sat there one day just. I think you gotta go, you know?

[Red Richardson]

Imagine your Cato. Kalyn is Ghislaine Maxwell Kato. Kalin's, like, in Showtime. He's in, like, Cinemax porn.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Doing bad movies.

[Dan Soder]

What's he doing now? Is he still.

[Red Richardson]

I think he's around. He'll do, like, you know, he was

[Dan Soder]

nearly Jeff Daniels in Diamond Dumber, so he says he was. He said he's down to the fun.

[Red Richardson]

That's a Hulk Hogan lie.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

That's a whole. That's got to be a Hulk Hogan lie. Because I've watched too many behind the scenes of Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels. Talking about it.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

That's like Hulk Hogan. I don't know if you know, he used to make these up, these lies that were easily.

[Dan Soder]

Well, just. You could go, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

He said they wanted me to be the basis in Metallica.

[Dan Soder]

That's so funny.

[Red Richardson]

And they just asked Metallica. Metallica was like, no, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

What? But it's.

[Red Richardson]

And we were also alcoholica for all of the 80s and we. That wasn't true. So that Hulk like saying we're blackout drunks. That we even know that didn't happen.

[Dan Soder]

What do you mean that the.

[Red Richardson]

Well, they said that to Metallica. Metallica was like, no, that wasn't even kind of fun.

[Dan Soder]

I see.

[Red Richardson]

And they're like, oh, yeah. You sure you didn't forget because you were drinking. Drinking. And they're like, no, but he's also

[Dan Soder]

famous enough that you think, why do you need to lie? You're Hulk Hogan. You know, you've done enough. It's like Obama being like, oh, by the way, I'm a.

[Red Richardson]

Did I ever tell you I was in swv? I was in sisters with Voices. They couldn't call it that because I'm a brother. I'm not a sister. I was the. I was the sixth member. I was the fifth member of Ang Vogue. That'd be great. Obama, Hulk Hogan lying of people don't know this. I almost stopped 911, but I was too busy at practice with envo. Was gain Maxwell hiding out of this million dollar home paid for in cash. Who was it she was hiding at? 156 acre property in New Hampshire.

[Dan Soder]

Awesome. Sounds good.

[Red Richardson]

But it was paid for in cash through a limited liability company. Of course it was. Damn. It really is under a company because, you know, whoever's that rich that owns that was like, get my name off.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course.

[Red Richardson]

I don't need this just being like turning on CNN on the. On the giant sectional couch.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

In your like room with windows on it. And you're like, jeff Epstein's going to arrest him. You go, you know him?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Is that your buddy? And she goes, yeah, we have Jeff.

[Dan Soder]

Jeffrey.

[Red Richardson]

I haven't heard that.

[Dan Soder]

I think I. The amount of selfies that. That they all took as well. They were like two girls traveling Europe on their gap. It's like Trump and Epstein is just. And Clinton as well. But no one googled him. Why did no one just go, maybe I'll google this guy? Because when you get convicted 2004 first,

[Red Richardson]

the first one, I think it was in 08.

[Dan Soder]

It was an argument in school.

[Red Richardson]

Two high school girls. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

This billionaire. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

He gives her money for massages. And they were like, what? And then they found cats. Did you know that it was two girls in a Florida high school? I swear to God. They started. I think. I wasn't in Hollywood, Florida. I forget where it was. But they were at high school fighting. And one of the girls was like, she's a. She's a whore. She's like, she's not a whore. And then the girl's like, no, she gets paid to give massages. And the teacher went through her bag and found, like, a bunch of cash and was like, where's this cash from? And she's like, oh, this guy that I just give massages to. And they were like, okay, well, you're 15. Who are you giving massages to? And she's like, Jeff. Just going like, Mr. E. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Did Trump meet Melania through that?

[Red Richardson]

They're gonna. They're gonna. They're gonna kill off with his lawyers on this case. They're gonna kill off any. We'll never know. We will never.

[Dan Soder]

But his fans completely ignore it.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Like, have you seen. Have you seen that rapper Tom McDonald, who's Canadian? He's like a Canadian American.

[Red Richardson]

Can I tell you, there is. I don't know, man, because there's people. You've heard of the term Anglophile?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

These are Americans that are obsessed with the uk. The uk, they love the British culture.

[Dan Soder]

They think it's all Downton Abbey and stuff.

[Red Richardson]

It's all Downton Abbey. They want to speak properly. They want to speak the Queen's English. They want to do all this. I've always felt it as an American that it's like. That's embarrassing.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, of course.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. Like, that you. America is such a melting pot of culture that you can pick different cultures. If you want to be a WASP in New England, well, sure, that's like an Anglophile. You can get traces of English culture of that, but, like, selling your soul for another country.

[Dan Soder]

We have it in England now, so there's a lot of people who love Trump in England.

[Red Richardson]

Why?

[Dan Soder]

But they're like. They think they've had, like, their patrons. He's like, no, you just. You on this country, every opportunity get you ramp up how bad it is.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And it's also really funny. It's sort of like they just. It's. It's this bizarre. Like, it looks pathetic. It looks weak, really.

[Red Richardson]

You know, listen, it's the same way that liberals that are obsessed with Mom, Donnie, and they don't live in New York City.

[Dan Soder]

It's like.

[Red Richardson]

You're embarrassing.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, there was a lot about. In England, my mayor. And I was like, you live in shop.

[Red Richardson]

Your mayor is a guy with welts on his head. Like one of those old British mayors. It's like, today is today. You're not Mom. Donnie's like a little kid from. From Queens.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. And also the rapper, probably.

[Red Richardson]

Here's a rule about New York City mayors. Once you get elected, we all hate you. That's just the rule. You, why aren't this. Why aren't the roads clear? You, why isn't MTA cheaper? You, why isn't all this. It's how New York runs. It's a giant machine. It's not Sweetville, Indiana, where the mayor's just a guy. Well, he's a cobbler and he just wants to bet. It's like, this is a machine liking our mayor or opposite disliking him. Because that's happened. I was on the road and people are like, how you doing with mom, Donnie? It's like nothing.

[Dan Soder]

It's the same.

[Red Richardson]

This exact.

[Dan Soder]

My bus is five minutes later than usual.

[Red Richardson]

Dumb mayor.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Liking politicians to that extent is pathetic. And Trump's managed to do it. But we had it in England. There was a guy, Jeremy Corbyn, who's kind of.

[Red Richardson]

Of.

[Dan Soder]

I'd say Bernie, but not. He was further than Bernie, you know, so he kind of. He kind of like. But he had this huge fan base at Glastonbury Festival. They would all. He went, yeah, I know. Glastonbury, yeah. And they all would chant, oh, Jeremy Corbin. But it's when they do that, you're like, this is so pathetic. It was shouting for. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You're friends with the cops completely.

[Dan Soder]

Also what it does is, you know, you can no longer think objective because you're blindly chanting someone's name. So actually he should be held to task by his individual actions, not just this round package deal.

[Red Richardson]

You know, there's. It's so obvious now who's grifting to what side.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And I think it used to be a lot. People were a lot better at it, like hiding it and being like, no, I just. This is how I can feel. And I'm convicted to feel this way. But now it's obvious, like a grift.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Where it's like, if you're going to be loud about anti Trump and you're going to call Trump fans stupid and dumb and like that, then don't be over here being like, Obama was the man. Like, he droned. Struck Yemen in a way that you're like, wedding. There's just. There's just people that were like, it was the best day of my life until I heard a. And you're like, I take you to be my we. What is that? It's like just that noise. And you're like, don't you get it?

[Dan Soder]

In comedy on both sides. People on the left who can't do comedy, so they'll go, words of violence. This is offensive because they can't do it.

[Red Richardson]

They can't do it.

[Dan Soder]

And there's people on the right who can't do it, who are going to. Going, you can't do anything because they can't do it.

[Red Richardson]

You know, the thing I said when Trump won is I was like, all those people on the right that were like, I'd make that joke, but I'd get canceled. Yeah, well, he won. What do you got?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, you're now.

[Red Richardson]

And then it turns out it's Capone's vault, you know? Yeah, it's. There's nothing in there. They go, I just wanted to call gay people the F word. You're like, well, just admit it.

[Dan Soder]

And that's fine. Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But it really is. It's, like, funny watching English people be into Trump.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It's funny when, like, Canadians move to the United States.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And they want to talk about politics. You know, I had John Oliver on, and he was like. And I was like, at what point do you feel weird talking about another country?

[Dan Soder]

I know.

[Red Richardson]

And he said, it's. You know, it was through marriage. He was like, I lived here long enough that you became we. And I was like, I understand that if you live there long enough and you're in the culture, but also, don't forget, you can close ranks.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You could be like, you're not an American. Yeah, yeah, there is that. Like, English do that. All. Every country can close ranks and go, like, of course. So if you're going, like, if you're. If you're not from a country and you're anti immigration. Yeah, yeah, buddy, buddy. That ain't gonna go well for you. And that's what. That's what you see now with all these people that are like, Cuban. Cuban community that was pro ice. And then he comes around like, come on.

[Dan Soder]

I came here two years ago, and so in England, the view of Trump was that it was like this white supremacist. All his followers were white sort of hicks, and you get it. And I first Thing I saw was this disabled guy in a wheelchair and he's black and he's just covered in Trump much. And I'm like, okay, so it's a black disabled guy cult of personality. Yes. It's a feeling.

[Red Richardson]

It is. He is the best at getting people to blindly follow him. Which is going to be in the punchline is. And for anyone that's like fucking soda got political. Blow me. It's in our laps every day, every waking minute. I'm gonna have opinions on it, I promise you. When Trump dies, just the way the Democratic Party died when. When Obama was out, they had nobody left. They had skeleton Joe Biden.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And then super cop Kamala Harris being like, I'm actually a cool guy. No, you're not. Get the out of here.

[Dan Soder]

What a horrible Hillary Clinton.

[Red Richardson]

Hillary Clinton did a lot of up in the 90s. The Clintons did so much.

[Dan Soder]

Well, look at them go.

[Red Richardson]

Look at their policies. I'm talking about from a policy standpoint. What the clintons did from 92 to 2000 is criminal.

[Dan Soder]

Wasn't she. She was a big. Yeah. Anti gay marriage.

[Red Richardson]

They were. They went so hard on people and people forget and they go, he played the sacks and didn't. First off, him for not inhaling.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Who takes. Makes a puff of weed and doesn't inhale, you fucking dork.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But it happens. This is what happens in politics. You get these people that are lightning rods and then the real shadow movers get behind him and push him. So Trump isn't even the problem. It's the people around him that are doing all the fucked up shit. But when he dies and he's gone, you think J.D. vance is gonna fucking take that. That uncomfortable guy who's like. Like, oh, hey, everybody, like, shut the up. It was the exact same thing. It just switches back and forth. The left will probably get a guy that's very charismatic and, you know, brings people in.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And then we're gonna have problems because of him.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Now are the problems going to be as bad? I don't know. But that's. The whole thing is like people. The Internet's got people thinking second to second instead of like, this is long. This is a long. Also, England's been around thousands of years. We're hitting 250. That's crazy. And people are going, like, feels like a thousand. Like, everyone in America's like, this feels like we've been around forever.

[Dan Soder]

I watched the bits of the Kid

[Red Richardson]

Rock super bowl who didn't.

[Dan Soder]

And that guy. I'm Obsessed with this guy. I've never heard of him. He's got like a million followers. He's always a big country.

[Red Richardson]

Oh, the guy. The who?

[Dan Soder]

I just want to catch my fish.

[Red Richardson]

Which sounded like, kiss. Kiss my fish. Yeah, I just want to kiss.

[Dan Soder]

But he got up and he said, was he. Charlie was shot just for giving people a microphone. Give him a chance to say something. Now I got mine.

[Red Richardson]

Oh, my God.

[Dan Soder]

But that's, I think, what. In England, that's the view of what Trump. That guy is who everyone assumes is. You know what I mean?

[Red Richardson]

I mean, they're not wrong. You know, it's like, dude, Kid Rock in 1999, greatest in the world. Yeah, Kid Rock, Devil Without a Cause. Every high school football team was playing that album.

[Dan Soder]

Really? He wasn't very big in England. We. We knew him because he was married to Pamela Anderson.

[Red Richardson]

Sure. He was like, like at the time, the definition of like you. I'm gonna up. And everybody was like, yeah, it was awesome. Devil Without a Cause, let's say.

[Dan Soder]

Do you see the workout video I did with.

[Red Richardson]

So that's the whole point is that he gets older and you go, no, no.

[Dan Soder]

And he's. He looks like a meth head.

[Red Richardson]

Well, what's crazy about him is he grew up very, very rich. He grew up insanely wealthy.

[Dan Soder]

Same with Rage Against Machine as well.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, I don't know about rage. Look up. I don't know if Tom. I mean, they all went to Harvard and so they definitely had money.

[Dan Soder]

Dance was. I can't. I might be wrong, but yeah, go on. Sorry.

[Red Richardson]

This is what you always do though. Follow the money.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, Follow the money.

[Red Richardson]

And then you realize Kid Rock's dad owned like a bunch of car dealerships.

[Dan Soder]

Really?

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. He like grew up. You see the house he grew up in really, like had a tennis. Like a tennis court in a swimming pool.

[Dan Soder]

Nice.

[Red Richardson]

And then he just grew his hair along.

[Dan Soder]

He's like, I'm from the trailer. Yeah, the system.

[Red Richardson]

But at the time it ruled.

[Dan Soder]

That's why he looks like a pimp from a movie that likes Nicholas Cage has to kill because he's got a 15 year old with him.

[Red Richardson]

You know, I mean, you're like, oh my God, a white pimp.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, this is crazy.

[Red Richardson]

White pimps usually just, you know, higher planes of 15 year old girls to leave the island of Manhattan after it's been attacked. But it is like, oh, rage is upper middle. But yeah, yeah, you look behind art, here's what a lot of people don't realize. That's Gonna. It's really gonna hurt your opinion of a lot of artists you like. Very few of us made it on our own. Very few of us slept, you know, with no money, windowless rooms, just trying to do comedy, and then got a break. That's why I think we all feel lucky. A lot of the times when people were like, where did this guy come from? And you look it up, you go, I was. Parents were wealthy and they could just front a ton of money for them to be. Have you ever found that out, like, with an English comic where you're like,

[Dan Soder]

yes, we got people who are like oligarchs and stuff, kids and stuff like that.

[Red Richardson]

But a lot of the times I'm fine with it if you're upfront about it. But if you do like that Kid Rock, where you're like, I'm from the streets.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah. Well, so he's pretending to be like. I think because with rap, you can't really do that.

[Red Richardson]

Can't be like, I grew up rich as well.

[Dan Soder]

No, but like, what he's doing is a contradiction. Do you know what I mean? Is. I don't know much about his music. Was it like, sort of.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. He was like talking about, like, this is for the people in the trailers. This is for the people that are on meth.

[Dan Soder]

It's like if Eminem was. Turns out his dad was Goldman son Axle. You know, I mean, like, you'd be like, my friend.

[Red Richardson]

Shout out my friend Mark, my friend from college. But we always joked around about if you found out. If you found like, Eminem birthday pictures, and he's like, cheering in crystal champagne glasses with his dad and like a Mercedes Benz.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You go by like, you go by 8 mile and you go, holy. Someone very talented came out of this. It makes it better.

[Dan Soder]

People love that story.

[Red Richardson]

It's a great story.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And even like. Like, you know, people from the suburbs, that's even impressive if you go and make something of yourself.

[Dan Soder]

Where did you start in New York?

[Red Richardson]

I. Yeah, I started in Tucson, Arizona.

[Dan Soder]

Ah, that looks amazing. That is that with the. I swear, I Google images. I always look at that place and they got different color. All the buildings are painted nicely, different colors.

[Red Richardson]

Tucson's not that nice.

[Dan Soder]

Okay, I've got the wrong place.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. Phoenix.

[Dan Soder]

I'm thinking somewhere else.

[Red Richardson]

Arizona. Are you think you're thinking of Sedona?

[Dan Soder]

There's like, it's in the desert, but there's like big cliffs all around it and all the house are paint, like purple, yellow.

[Red Richardson]

I think you're thinking of Sedona.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Red Richardson]

I think you're thinking of Sedona or Flagstaff. Cuz Tucson and Phoenix are painfully desert.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Where you go, the desert is all around you. But I started there. But I was just like a middle class. I grew up in the suburbs and I went to college and started stand up there. But I had a dad that was just, you know, I just had a shitty father. Father.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Red Richardson]

So that was my touch to white trash.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Was like I'd go visit my dad and be like holy. But I never. I also liked. I didn't realize it.

[Dan Soder]

Where did he live in Arizona?

[Red Richardson]

Northern California.

[Dan Soder]

So you were born in Arizona?

[Red Richardson]

No, I was born in Hartford, Connecticut. And then I, and then my family moved to connect to Colorado. My mom and I moved to Colorado when I was five.

[Dan Soder]

What was that like?

[Red Richardson]

It was great. Colorado's the.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, I love it. It looks amazing.

[Red Richardson]

It's great. It's like beautiful. I mean I grew up in the 80s and 90s in there where you could live in a, a, a single mom could have a three bedroom house.

[Dan Soder]

You seen any, do you see any bears?

[Red Richardson]

No, I've never, I've seen bears in Alaska. Yeah, I've never seen them in Colorado. That's the thing. We don't realize how land wise.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You go to England and you guys.

[Dan Soder]

We're tiny.

[Red Richardson]

You guys are like the size of Maine.

[Dan Soder]

So I went to Vancouver, I was doing show there and I was going to go to the island, Vancouver island. And I was like oh, it'll just be I. In my head. We drive around in a boat in like 20 minutes and I found it was like six hours from. That's. That's the site. That's what it takes me to drive from London to, to I get to Scotland in six hours.

[Red Richardson]

That's crazy.

[Dan Soder]

You know what I mean?

[Red Richardson]

Like that's the crazy thing about Europe is you can get on a train for seven hours and you're in France.

[Dan Soder]

You know, we're tiny.

[Red Richardson]

Does that make gigging easy?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. But no matter where you are, the, the time it takes is always like four hours is you. You reframe how your brain thinks. So for you guys maybe four hours is nothing.

[Red Richardson]

That's nothing for us it's huge. That's here to dc?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Or here to Boston and the other way, you know the other way. You're up in Boston in four hours.

[Dan Soder]

I'm doing a gig this Saturday and it's three and a half hour drive and I've been sort of toying with pulling it for the last like three days in my head because it just. You just got seven hours round trip.

[Red Richardson]

That is really funny because I. I have a show in Boston. I don't know if this came out after. Thanks for the great shows, but I have a show in Boston the next night. I have a show in Philadelphia. New York's in between that. We're driving. I'm driving up to Boston to see her family, bringing the dog. And then the day. The morning of the show in Philly, we're gonna drive Boston to Philly. Six hours.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Five and a half, six hours.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

So for you, I'd be like, what, are you going to Spain?

[Dan Soder]

Well, I did a UK tour and most nights where I drive home.

[Red Richardson]

Really?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. We drive back from Even Liverpool. I mean, that was stupid, but it was six hours. I just wouldn't. Just may as well get back.

[Red Richardson]

Sure. And you live. Live. Do you live in.

[Dan Soder]

I live in London.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. That. They opened a top secret here.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, I did it.

[Red Richardson]

Very fun.

[Dan Soder]

Did it on Saturday.

[Red Richardson]

It's a very fun club.

[Dan Soder]

Have you done it in London?

[Red Richardson]

No.

[Dan Soder]

So in London it's a. Amazing. Great. It'd be great here too. But they. They've got three rooms. You can just do three shows really quickly.

[Red Richardson]

That's always what you want as a comic is.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

They go like, we have three different opportunities for you to bomb.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Red Richardson]

And you go, great.

[Dan Soder]

But they've got. What's funny is in one of the buildings, there's two rooms. The upstairs, everyone bombs in and then the downstairs is the best room. Like, you just. The problem is you'll kill so much there. And you go, oh, they've got a new. And you don't. Yeah, you don't have a new.

[Red Richardson]

Oh, you have that. Do you have that? False inflation.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, but it's so good downstairs. Then you go. It used to be that you do upstairs first and downstairs you'd bomb. Then you have a great one and leave. Now they do it the other way around. So it's sort of like you end

[Red Richardson]

up with this where you go, I feel great now I'm gonna leave. Walking out. That happens. There's a club here, the Stand.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

That downstairs room is one of the best rooms right in the country. It's just unbelievable. That full feels great. And then sometimes you go upstairs and just leave being like, I've heard that's hard, that room. Yeah. You can leave being like, well, there's always tomorrow Yeah. A lot of walks home because of that.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

I live just far enough that it's a little much of a walk, but

[Dan Soder]

I go like, did you guys la. I just can't get into it with the sort of driving the Ubers. People get a three minute Uber and an Uber will pick you up for a three minute trip.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

That's insane.

[Red Richardson]

Wait till the Olympics are there. That's gonna cost you.

[Dan Soder]

What about the World Cup? But I suppose it's spread out.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. World cup is like. They're doing the road trip thing where it like starts here in New York and then it goes to like Chicago and then they're doing a game and then the finals are in la. The World Cup. The World cup final is going to be in Los Angeles. The Olympics.

[Dan Soder]

You guys give a.

[Red Richardson]

You don't really. We do. I. We would if America was a lot better.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Okay.

[Red Richardson]

If USA was like a powerhouse in the World cup, we would give a massive. But that being said, we have a lot of fans of football.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Of English football.

[Dan Soder]

It's getting bigger here. I mean even when like Messi joined into Miami and you start seeing like Kim Kardashian's there with like kids, you know. Okay.

[Red Richardson]

Beckham really did a lot. How big was. I don't think we understand the scope of how big he was.

[Dan Soder]

In England he was as big as the Queen. You know what I mean?

[Red Richardson]

Like Michael Jordan big.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. We have. But the thing is, Beckham is amazing football. He was never the best, it was just the brand. And he was brilliant. But he wasn't like. I wouldn't. Would he be in top five all time? No. No.

[Red Richardson]

You know, who would you put in the. I only know. Here's what's fun about video games is you can learn about sports very quick. Like I have friends in the UK that play Madden.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

They don't really know about football, but they know how to play Madden.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You go. You get it. That was FIFA for us.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Okay.

[Red Richardson]

And I remember playing with Skulls. Paul.

[Dan Soder]

Skulls.

[Red Richardson]

Paul Scholes was like great. His speed was off the charts.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

So you just slam that. You just hit circle.

[Dan Soder]

Like the whole would be top. I'd say Wayne Rooney.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Gerard. I mean Beckham was brilliant, but Lampard Skulls great.

[Red Richardson]

See, that's the difference.

[Dan Soder]

Kane Shearer.

[Red Richardson]

I guess. I guess we do it with. I guess we do it with Jordan. Where we go, Kobe, Jordan, LeBron. But everyone's really like, it's.

[Dan Soder]

Who would your Beck and be. So imagine Beckham was never like. There was point There was seasons where I think he came like third in the world rankings and stuff. I think like 99. But he was just a very good looking guy who got married to the pop star of the uk. So it was kind of this royal and the press had like a love hate with wing with him. So everyone loved to escape. He was a idiot. And do impressions of him and they kind of, they'd have like their wedding was like ogled, but like, look at these, you know, working class, they don't spend money at all. Give them money and look what they do with it, you know. So it was kind of like, you know, his and hers thrones. And so they were sort of this like institution. But now, I mean, the kids are all. Well, the, the one.

[Red Richardson]

Brooklyn doesn't talk to him.

[Dan Soder]

He's a little.

[Red Richardson]

It's always funny dick. Yeah, well, public.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. She. She looks like a cat that's been thrown in the bar. She's just an expensive cat.

[Red Richardson]

But her, I think you're. What you're watching is. And what the inevitable Netflix documentary will be is you're watching her versus Victoria Beckett.

[Dan Soder]

Yes, of course. Because I think Brooklyn, dumbass. I'm gonna feel myself making a sandwich.

[Red Richardson]

Why? Yeah. And then David Beckham's like, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, I got caught cheating once.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Red Richardson]

Leave me alone. Yeah, I know. That's why he's like, he goes, I want that to remain where it's at.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You'll be keeping that number low. Yeah, you do. Like you wonder because there's always a real story behind these situations. And then you read like, she was a problem with her ex boyfriend. I saw. And then they're like. And then for that drama to get to me, I can't imagine how big it is in the uk. Yeah, because you guys want that stuff. Listen, what we found out is, and this is why the Trumps and Obamas and stuff are so good at politics, rage baiting works. It sells it. If you get people pissed off. And that's what sucks. We got to get away from that. We got to go back to like, how about we just make good stuff? But that's boring.

[Dan Soder]

What? Yeah, it's. I think no one. I think we're done with good stuff now. I think it's over.

[Red Richardson]

It's like trying to get petals to go back to missionary.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

You a 15 year old model, but what about an age appropriate woman and you're face to face with her.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, it's.

[Red Richardson]

It sucks. You're like, I. I want to go back.

[Dan Soder]

We want the big. I mean, like, I watched the Godfight Father the other day, and I was like, this just would never. The first scene's 20 minutes long.

[Red Richardson]

It's quiet.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, let's do this in a minute.

[Red Richardson]

Well, they don't. And it's also like, the thing they say about Netflix that Netflix tells people when they're making movies. Like, hey, keep saying in the dialogue what the plot is. So people.

[Dan Soder]

God, it's hard being a spider man.

[Red Richardson]

Did you see the rip with Ben Affleck and Matt Damon?

[Dan Soder]

What was that?

[Red Richardson]

It's like they're two cops, but they.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, that's a new film. They've been doing a presto or four. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It feels like a parody.

[Dan Soder]

Really.

[Red Richardson]

Like, it feels like when I watched it, it felt like they were like, let's with them. Because every five minutes they're like, don't you understand? There's a ton of money upstairs and a lot of people are coming to get it, and we don't know who's right and who's wrong. And you're like, right. And then the scene happens.

[Dan Soder]

Plus, I've gotten a divorce.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. Am I. And my lady died.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Five minutes later. Don't you understand? There's a lot of money upstairs. Do we all have amnesia?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. God, I wish you didn't have a drink problem.

[Red Richardson]

Am I. Lady's dead. You're like, I don't. I don't like this as a movie.

[Dan Soder]

No, they. Because there was a clip of them saying that. I think they were on Rogan talking about that. They get all these notes, and it used to be there was. Matt Damon was talking about how it used to be like, there was a set piece and then set piece at the end. Now Netflix, like, set piece three minutes in. Because he just. We can't be trusted anymore because the phones.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, they got us. Yeah, whatever. The.

[Dan Soder]

I've read a book in years.

[Red Richardson]

I'm trying, dude.

[Dan Soder]

It's terrible.

[Red Richardson]

I'm trying. Back in.

[Dan Soder]

I look and you go, this. Why isn't this glo going in my face?

[Red Richardson]

It feels like jogging.

[Dan Soder]

It's crazy.

[Red Richardson]

Feels like jogging. You're like, get out there. And you're like, I'm out of breath. Three.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Like, I gotta. I know I gotta keep going to do this more. But they're. It's just so good. They got so good at the programming.

[Dan Soder]

It's crazy.

[Red Richardson]

I cat. I catch myself. At least I'm not joking. At least five times a week going, why am I scrolling?

[Dan Soder]

Wait, it's completely. I was with Mike before this and he said he's deleted apps off his phone and he said the reason was he was waiting for a train and he was just watching a man tightrope walking. And he's. Why? Why? What's the.

[Red Richardson]

I, I, I was like, I remember I got ah, on a flight or whatever and I just looking at it and the first thing is a blue baby being brought back to life like a dead B. It's like I open my. I open Reddit and it's like a guy slapping a baby's back and the baby being like, yeah. And you're like, I don't. Why am I watching this?

[Dan Soder]

And this mad. I've got in this algorithm on Instagram these cat videos, but it's like AI

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, I do DID and the ones

[Dan Soder]

they cheat on, the cat starts cheating on the cat with the gorilla with the horse. Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

She's cheating with the horses, he's cheating with the gorilla.

[Dan Soder]

And I watched like 30 of them in a row.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

I haven't done what. Do something. What are you doing?

[Red Richardson]

They completely nullified. You're just sitting there and you're like, it's so bad. Yeah. You get caught in the algorithm and

[Dan Soder]

you're like, it's pathetic. Hours a day.

[Red Richardson]

And then I would say we're at this weird time where I almost feel empathy for people that go all in on social media creators because of the turnover. They burn out.

[Dan Soder]

So it's so horrible. Women are post once a week. We shouldn't be. I mean, we shouldn't even be doing. This

[Red Richardson]

is like, I wish I'd been around. This is fun. I love having a conversation with you. I wish we were in a world where both of us just did stand up and this was a lunch.

[Dan Soder]

We were just chatting. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

I wouldn't have to worry about it. I wouldn't worry after. About a guy getting butt hurt because I made fun of Trump a little bit.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Even though I doled it out, even I. I wouldn't have to call him and be like, was it a little too hard? I just, There are people that are dumb and I want them coming back to the center.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It's just. I miss, I miss everyone. But there is, there's like, no appeasing everyone.

[Dan Soder]

Put my, like I do a podcast and I get sent the clips from the producer and he goes, put this. I go, why? It's, you know.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, yeah. He's great at picking out clips. Where I go, I go, that's all right.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Because There'll be times where he'll send me stuff and I go, I hate myself.

[Dan Soder]

I hate the laugh. I do a laugh laugh at the end. And I'm like, oh, you look like a. Because my algorithm's comedians. So it's just two guys on a sofa and they'll be like, have you told you about the time I came in my pants? It's not that funny.

[Red Richardson]

But by the way, you know, it is.

[Dan Soder]

And you can see it in their eyes. I love. My favorite one is watching not unsuccessful, but mid level successful podcasts and their friends are millionaires and yet. But they go, we're doing the same laugh. You know, you can see it in their eyes.

[Red Richardson]

Same exact same movement.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Where is my money?

[Dan Soder]

Why am I not making any money?

[Red Richardson]

I just like, I. I enjoy it because I get to have. I get to have people.

[Dan Soder]

It's great to meet people. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

To my apartment and talk to like, you're gonna leave and I'm gonna play arc raiders.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

This isn't like a thing where I. We have a post production meeting and we have to really sit down. It's like Mike and I break down the lights and cameras. When I did Pete Davidson's podcast, it's produced by Netflix.

[Dan Soder]

Really?

[Red Richardson]

And I went in and it was like a movie shoot. And one of the ladies, I was like, waiting. Pete wasn't even there. And I'm waiting for Pete and she's like, what's your podcast like? And I go, it's just equipment we keep next to my dog's kennel in my office. And she's like, wow.

[Dan Soder]

And everyone's in, like, don't you feel like you're ripping people off the road? Like, you know, Spotify paying $100 million. And it changed everything, I think now.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Everyone's trying to get. And everyone has a podcast. We have reality TV stars who were in dog shows 15 years ago, and that will be them sat down talking about their mental health. You're like, why is this still famous?

[Red Richardson]

That's why when everyone, when anyone, like, shits on it, I go, yeah, man, it's not for everybody.

[Dan Soder]

I'm also.

[Red Richardson]

I enjoy the conversations and I enjoy hanging out with people and I. I really appreciate people listening to this. Yeah, but this is all a commercial to come see me.

[Dan Soder]

Yes. That's why I'm doing it, because I want to sell more tickets.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

It's like, like, when I do, I

[Red Richardson]

would hate if I were funnier. You know, that's one of the reasons why I wanted to Go concentrate on my standup is because I felt like I was on podcast being funnier. And it's like I'm putting my time in the wrong place. Now. I can do this. But the work week is one day a week.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. It's an hour a week.

[Red Richardson]

It's an hour a week. We. A little over an hour, and I'm going to go. And then in an hour, I'm going to make another coffee and sit down and write jokes.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And then go do spots. You know what I mean? So it is like. Like, there is an ends. There is a means to the end, but just every.

[Dan Soder]

Like, the guy who killed bin Laden followed me the other day.

[Red Richardson]

That's.

[Dan Soder]

He's got a podcast.

[Red Richardson]

Number one, I'm jealous. Number two, get me on that podcast.

[Dan Soder]

I want to go on it. My favorite thing is the mob guys, the rats.

[Red Richardson]

That's. Colin Quinn has the best joke about that.

[Dan Soder]

Really? What does he say?

[Red Richardson]

He's like, I think it's over. When the mob started a podcast, he's like, you know, they took a oath, famously.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

To never talk about it. And then you're hearing him.

[Dan Soder]

He's.

[Red Richardson]

He's like, what's Collins line? He goes, hey, you know. And then I beat the guy to death with the tire iron. We'll talk about that later. Right now, I want to talk about Dollar Shave Club.

[Dan Soder]

Right.

[Red Richardson]

The best shave of your life. Better than the best shave of your life.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, that's so funny.

[Red Richardson]

But it is, like, you see that? You go, yeah, it's.

[Dan Soder]

It's because you can imagine the 80s, these guys, like, carrying a body and, you know, throwing it in the shark.

[Red Richardson]

Don't tell nobody.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And then it's like their reader glasses and they go, this thing's picking tracks. Yeah, yeah. He's got 5 million views.

[Dan Soder]

Sammy the Bull Gravana didn't Bad health. You ever feeling depressed? He's just.

[Red Richardson]

He's like, you know what I do? I take Blue Chew. It makes me my gooma in a way that I never thought possible. I'm loving it. She might be a side beast, but with my Blue Chew, she's the main squeeze. Now, don't forget, you tell anybody you comment, man. Dude, I would. I want to start. Let's. Let's just. The way we're going to start our Sydney Sweeney hidden request podcast.

[Dan Soder]

Yep.

[Red Richardson]

We're also going to do a podcast of tough guys. Read comments.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And we're gonna have mobsters and mafia bosses and all that stuff. And we're just gonna scroll on a giant screen with a crowd behind us.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

So they can't kill us privately. And you go, oh, look at this one. This one hurt. This guy says, you look like a can of tomatoes. Put on a soup. Put on a suit. Does that. Does that hurt you, Johnny the Strangler?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. I saw one with. Was it that Michael Francese guy? Yeah, him and Sammy the Bull having an argument on Zoom and Sammy, but was like, you've never killed anyone. He's like, I've done stuff. And you're like, this is so funny, man. You're publicly doing.

[Red Richardson]

If we had real police in this country, they'd be like, oh, yeah, yeah,

[Dan Soder]

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Okay. They go to court. They go, what do you got? They go, play episode. Episode 47.

[Dan Soder]

It's mad, but even, like, if you're a burger van, you need an Instagram now.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah. It's all the. Everything is shifted to that. So I understand people hating the overexposure.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

But just like I was saying, with the pendulum swinging and, like, how you have these cults of personalities and stuff, everything changes.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Everything washes away. Human. It's like a. You can't stop erosion. It's just the water, the waves hitting you over and over again. This will be. Dude, there will come a time where I am, like, in my attic or garage, and I find a podcast set up, and I go, what if, for one, we take it back to 2026.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It's just Katie and I old, and I'm like, let's talk about doggy style. This is the first we're talking. We're sex positive.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It'll all change, and it'll go to

[Dan Soder]

something else, and it'll be like.

[Red Richardson]

It'll be worse.

[Dan Soder]

Having a podcast will be like our parents being in, like, a hair metal band in the late 70s. They'll be like, the flares. No, sorry. The leather pants. That will be. This will be our leather pants.

[Red Richardson]

My niece. My niece at her wedding will bring up a podcast. Podcast clip that resurfaced that she's embarrassed by.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Red Richardson]

She goes, uncle Dan, why are you doing that? And I go, I don't know.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

It was high. It was in the afternoon.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Why? Everyone podcasted back then.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Yeah, it is. I mean, the analogy. Ronnie Chang had a great bit about it, but I've heard it before. It's smoking inside.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

We're just all gonna look back and be like, crazy.

[Dan Soder]

What the was that?

[Red Richardson]

Who thought that was a Good idea.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Red Richardson]

And I'll tell you who thought that was a good idea. Cut to the ads. Red Richardson's one of the funniest dudes that I've came across in a. In a while. You're hilarious. You're stand up. I love your jokes. The joke about sucking dick, that was. When I was thinking about that, I got mad about the Dubai.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Like just the king. Do you call the king? You're like, I really want to suck a dick right now. Watch Bugatti live. It's up on YouTube. It's hilarious. Get it. It's got quarter of a million views. Get it to a million. Yeah, million. Get the three million. Get read. So much money that he's on an island with a shark door. That's what we're going.

[Dan Soder]

That's why we do this.

[Red Richardson]

That's why you get in the game. Game. It's not to create. It's to get to the shark door and ask questions about it. But not go through it.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Red Richardson]

Not go through it. Dude, thanks for watching.

[Dan Soder]

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[Red Richardson]

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