133: Colorado Barrel Chest with Patton Oswalt | Soder Podcast | EP 131

Summary

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Soder Podcast #133: "Colorado Barrel Chest" with Patton Oswalt

Release Date: May 12, 2026
Host: Dan Soder
Guest: Patton Oswalt

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Episode Overview

In episode 133, Dan Soder welcomes Patton Oswalt for a rich, wide-ranging conversation about comedy festivals, the evolution of stand-up, personal influences, the comedy industry, classic films, and the quirks of comedy life. The duo share stories about the highs and lows of being a touring comic, the bittersweet process of building and recording specials, and their affection for comic legends like Robin Williams and Gilbert Gottfried. The tone is loose, funny, honest, and full of camaraderie, with both comics riffing on everything from self-checkout lines to Rambo movies, and reflecting on how their industry continues to change.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Netflix’s Joke Festival: What Works and What Doesn’t

• Festival Fatigue & the "Special" Problem:
  • Dan and Patton discuss how Netflix has diluted their festival brand by attaching it to too many shows, making the experience less special.
    • “If you put your name on every show, then by definition they're not special.” – Patton Oswalt [02:42]
• Festival Structure & Passes:
  • Soder proposes tiered passes allowing audiences to see big headliners and emerging acts, making festivals more supportive for comics and more fun for fans.
    • “Make it like a system where you're not just going to Chappelle and Shane and Nate…” – Dan Soder [03:57]
• Industry Presence & Showcase Energy:
  • The unique, industry-heavy vibe of Netflix’s LA-based fest is compared to the legendary Aspen Comedy Festival, which, as Patton jokes, mostly just let execs have ski vacations.
    • “...the Aspen Comedy Festival … it really was more of a. Oh, our execs get to have a ski trip. And the comedy was almost like the third thing on the menu.” – Patton Oswalt [05:38]

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Altitude, “Colorado Barrel Chest,” and Comedy at Altitude

• High-Altitude Comedy Hazards:
  • Stories about festivals in Aspen and the effects of high altitude, including partying with Chris Farley and out-of-towners underestimating their tolerance.
  • Dan shares how growing up in Aurora, CO made him the designated “altitude Sherpa” for visitors.
    • “...the altitude thing's very funny because it affects people in ways that will make a white guy that is perma in denim feel like a Sherpa in Nepal.” – Dan Soder [07:59]
• Barrel Chest Physiology:
  • Soder jokes about the legendary “Colorado barrel chest,” the supposed wider ribcages of high-altitude natives.
    • “If you develop in Colorado, your rib cage … is wider so your lungs can expand … I think it's called a Colorado barrel chest…” – Dan Soder [08:22]
  • Patton riffs: “Colorado barrel chest is a different thing where I come from… Will cost $75.” [08:37]

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Legendary Comedy Stories: Drugs, Edibles & Onstage Honesty

• Amsterdam Edibles Gone Wrong:
  • Patton recounts eating an entire weed-infused Snickers in Amsterdam and having to perform with his eyes shut, sharing the experience honestly on stage.
    • “...I could do my material...I could not physically open my eyes.” – Patton Oswalt [11:46]
    • “[to audience] ...I ate the whole [bar] ...I can't open my eyes right now…’” [12:01]
• Onstage Vulnerability:
  • Both agree that audiences respect when comics admit their faults in real-time—be it drunkenness or being too high—because it’s honest and relatable.
    • “For people who don't do comedy … it's like you're telling your boss you're drunk.” – Dan Soder [10:04]

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The Bit That Comes Too Late: Recording Specials and Comic Regret

• The Heartbreak of Finding a Better Tag:
  • Oswalt shares the pain of recording a joke for his special, then coming up with a better punchline only after it’s taped.
    • “I just wrote...my special is coming out on June 9th, and...you just heard a punchline...it will not be that funny on the special because I didn’t think of it till just fucking now.” – Patton Oswalt [14:04]
• Saying Goodbye to Closers:
  • Soder and Oswalt talk about the bittersweet process of retiring a “closer” (your reliable closing bit) after recording a special—likening it to an amicable breakup.
    • “I am ready for a conscience coupler from this closer. I don’t want a bad divorce. It’s not gonna be messy. I appreciate everything. It’s done.” – Dan Soder [15:31]

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Remembering Robin Williams – Legacies, Influence, and Loss

• The Robin Williams Tunnel:
  • Soder shares the emotional weight of seeing the “Robin Williams Tunnel” sign in Marin County, triggering a wave of grief for the lost icon.
    • “It was like someone fucking punched me in the chest…oh, he's fucking ripped me up.” – Dan Soder [16:14]
• Comedic Impact Even for “Enemies”:
  • They joke about how even ISIS supposedly acknowledged Robin’s death, highlighting the cultural reach of his comedy—even if the viral “Juman Jihadi” tribute was a hoax.
    • “We're talking about Zeppelin for ISIS...Stone 72…[but] their PR guy...released a statement.” – Dan Soder [16:53]
• Williams as Comic Book Geek
  • Patton describes his friendship with Williams, bonding over comic books, particularly Robert Kirkman’s work.
    • “We would call each other and go, okay, what are you reading? … He turned me onto … Robert Kirkman.” – Patton Oswalt [23:51]
• The Dark Layers of Mrs. Doubtfire:
  • Dan deconstructs why the movie Mrs. Doubtfire held such power for him—realizing as an adult it was about longing for a father’s involvement.
    • “My dad had all like, Robin Williams, you know, horrible husband, horrible provider. Could be a horrible father. But ... he cared so much about his kids ... my dad hit all three of those. Oh, yeah, we hit the parlay on my dad.” – Dan Soder [22:54]

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The Evolution of Comedy: Clubs, Technology & Archiving Your Past

• Comedy Club “Cheat Codes”:
  • Oswalt and Soder reminisce about legendary clubs—like Comedy Works (Denver), Comedy on State (Madison), and how they could make even mediocre comics’ tapes look like gold.
    • “Both of those ... remind me of back in the 80s. ... They wouldn't take videotapes from [them] ... because those were also cheat codes back then.” – Patton Oswalt [33:59]
• Archiving and Revisiting Early Material:
  • Oswalt reflects on how his alma mater is digitizing his early stand-up CDs and the value of revisiting old, abandoned bits with a fresh eye.
    • “There’s also documentation of me before I was comfortable enough to be vulnerable on stage... it’s like when you watch... Richard Pryor ... trying to be Bill Cosby...” – Patton Oswalt [38:28]
    • Soder: “There also has to probably be something that you never figured out, that you put down out of frustration … you pick it up and you go, oh, shit, that's how that goes.” [41:34]

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Comedy, Culture & Social Responsibility

• Violence in Media: Retrospectives and Regrets
  • Both comedians discuss how their youthful championing of unfiltered violence in media ("fuck parental advisory!") feels more complicated in light of real-world violence and mass shootings.
    • “And then I get older … and a mass shooting happens … was Tipper Gore right?” – Dan Soder [47:31]
• Media Sensationalism & Poor Timing:
  • They reflect on movie marketing insensitivity, like violent movie trailers released after prominent tragedies.
    • “Are these the images and lines to put … Especially with the way the country is?” – Patton Oswalt [49:33]
• Apathy vs. Evil in Business:
  • Patton articulates how greed and apathy feed off each other in the entertainment industry and beyond.
    • “Apathy caused by greed. And then the apathy is there to … soothe their own greed.” – Patton Oswalt [51:58]

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Stand-up as “Dirty Cops,” Comedy Culture & Crowd Work Trends

• Stand-Up’s Corruptibility:
  • Drawing a parallel between “dirty cop” culture and temptation in comedy (stealing bits, chasing shortcuts, doing crowd work), Soder and Oswalt note peer pressure and industry compromise.
    • “We are the most corrupt cops … [‘Why wouldn’t I take the bit? He’s not gonna use it. He’s in fucking New Mexico…’]” – Dan Soder [53:23]
• Changing Crowd Work Etiquette:
  • Maria Bamford is praised for paying audience members she interacts with during crowd work, recognizing the “labor” of being a participant.
    • “Whenever Maria Bamford does crowd work, she'll give the person $20 because, like, you're working.” – Patton Oswalt [54:45]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I almost become a part of comedy history. Almost like a sports draft…” – Dan Soder [03:28]
• On the danger of new edibles:
  • “It’s like getting pills from a pharmacy and just going, so I should take the whole bottle. They go, absolutely not. Please don’t do that.” – Dan Soder [11:38]
• On recording specials:
  • “I just wrote...my special is coming out on June 9th, and...you just heard a punchline...it will not be that funny on the special because I didn’t think of it till just fucking now.” – Patton Oswalt [14:04]
• On technical transitions:
  • “When I started comedy, it was right when everyone went from tapes to DVDs.” – Dan Soder [34:11]
• Discussing young vs. mature comics:
  • “You can watch and you can see the transition starting to happen.” – Patton Oswalt on Richard Pryor [38:42]
• On job automation:
  • “It’s the most cuck chair in the world. Where they go, sit right there in your chair. Watch the computer do it.” – Dan Soder on self-checkout lanes [56:05]

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Segment Timestamps

• [02:30-06:00] – Netflix's festival, industry compares to Aspen, festival improvements
• [07:45-10:00] – High-altitude partying, “Colorado barrel chest,” drunk performances
• [11:04-13:45] – Edible mishaps in Amsterdam, stage honesty
• [15:20-16:45] – Retiring closers, Mill Valley/Robin Williams tunnel
• [20:05-22:54] – Mrs. Doubtfire’s emotional resonance, parental dynamics
• [23:30-25:00] – Robin Williams as a mentor/friend, comic book nerd
• [32:30-34:11] – Comedy club cheat codes, transition from VHS to DVD submissions
• [38:00-41:59] – Archiving old material, Pryor’s evolution
• [46:10-48:19] – Violence in media, generational regret
• [51:40-54:45] – Corruption analogies, comics compromising integrity, Maria Bamford crowd work
• [54:53-56:44] – Bill Burr’s self-checkout bit, automation, and job displacement
• [57:22-58:12] – Soder’s confessions about stealing as a youth at Bed Bath and Beyond
• [58:23-60:10] – Soder’s gratitude for Oswalt’s influence, mutual respect, Oswalt’s new special

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Closing Remarks

Patton Oswalt’s New Special:

• Drops June 9 on YouTube, streaming also on Gorilla Comedy.
• “You can just watch it. No sign-ups, just click and see it.” – [60:01]
  Dan Soder’s Tour Dates:
• DanSoder.com for current shows and updates

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For New & Old Comedy Fans Alike

This episode is a treat for anyone who loves comedy culture, loves hearing shop talk from professionals, or wants to understand the personal and industry shifts shaping stand-up now. Oswalt and Soder’s warmth, insight, and comic energy make this a standout in the Soder Podcast catalog.

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Transcript

[Dan Soder]

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[Brian Redban]

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[Dan Soder]

Hey, what's up everybody? I hope you enjoyed the podcast this week. Thanks for watching. This is our final day in Los Angeles. I'm very ready to go home to my couch to do the podcast, but also to play video games and take a nap. I love to nap on that couch. That's what you don't know where all those people sit down and talk to me. I nap. I put my face right where their butts were. But go to dansoder.com, we announced a bunch of new dates this week. This Friday and Saturday, I'm going to be at the OMaha funny bone. Four shows bringing Sagalo. It's going to be unbelievable. Then if you live in Key West, Florida, June 1 and June 2, I'm going to be at Comedy Key West. It's unbelievable. The ticket link is [e-mail] it's going to be just a Monday, Tuesday show. But I'm excited to come to Key west and, you know, hang out, do this hour before we record it and also kind of fuck around. And then June 5th, New Jersey Performing Arts Center. There are limited tickets left. This is the last, like theater show before we record the Netflix special. Dan Soder.com for all those dates. Go get your dates. Thank you for coming out. The shows, they've been so fucking fun. Netflix's joke was awesome. Thanks for coming to the movie. Watch along. That was unbelievable. This is you guys fucking rule and I can't thank you enough. And I'LL see you on the road. Do you like the Netflix as a joke festival? Being in la? Look, I like becomes Frost Nixon.

[Brian Redban]

I like not having. Look, I like not having to travel. I wish that they would do. They're slapping their name on everything. And if you put your name on every show, then by definition they're not special.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Like, have less shows and really do the thing. It'd be really cool to do a combination of. You have these great big names doing huge shows and that's awesome. But as much light as you put on those really give people the opportunity and make it seem like a special thing to hear. Are names you have never heard before. And you're gonna get to see them here and really push that. That is what is always. Cause that always ends up being the exciting thing down the line. When they look back and go.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

At the same night that person A was at the Hollywood bowl, person B who is now person A was at this was in front of 20 people. Like, that's always exciting.

[Dan Soder]

I completely agree with you that you almost kind of become a part of like comedy history. Almost like a sports draft where you're like, I went and drafted a show in the third round and it ended up becoming one of the biggest guys in the world.

[Brian Redban]

That's a fucking great way to put it.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Think of it as a sports draft. I took a risk on.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

With the smaller ones and it was amazing.

[Dan Soder]

And I went and got this thing. I would say the way I would instantly fix Netflix's joke festival is passes. That's what makes a festival. So buy a.

[Brian Redban]

That's. Yes.

[Dan Soder]

A level. You get one A level headliner. Then you get like five B level. You know what I mean? Make it like a system where you're not just going to Chappelle and Shane and Nate, but you're going to like Chappelle and then maybe an improv. Like our show at the Improv where you are seeing me and you for Absurd Ventures.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, exactly.

[Dan Soder]

That way no one has to shit blood about ticket sales. The way that every single comic for this festival.

[Brian Redban]

You're all. It's like. It's like there were days where I was like. Cause I was originally gonna do a show at the Wilshire E. Bell. And then I looked at the other people. I'm like, can I just host something so I don't need to. And then so I. The Pee Wee's Playhouse 40th anniversary at the Greek. Which was great. The pressure was off me. But part of me was like, are there People in a C suite watching us fight. Like gladiator fights. Like, who's gonna get. Cause we're all scrambling. And also we're doing it this year where nobody has any money.

[Dan Soder]

I know everybody's broke and they just go, so what would you do? It's like, it's, you know, it's the food from Hook where they're going. Like, imagine a budget.

[Brian Redban]

Yes.

[Dan Soder]

If you imagine a budget, then it appears I will say what Netflix is a joke festival does better than any other con comedy festival in existence.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Is the amount of industry that is lurking everywhere.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

It's just, it's an industry fest where you turn around and it's guys in fleeces.

[Brian Redban]

But it's not. Here's what's, here's what sets it apart from the Aspen Comedy Festival. It's industry RIP.

[Dan Soder]

I wish I would have got to do.

[Brian Redban]

Well the, the Aspen Comedy Festival, God bless them. It. It really was more of a. Oh, our execs get to have a ski trip.

[Dan Soder]

That's.

[Brian Redban]

And, and the, and the comedy was almost like the third thing on the menu.

[Dan Soder]

Did you. When you were doing that festival, could you. Because I mean, I'm joking that about the industry. There are, it's just shows and then there's people there. So this is a fun festival for

[Brian Redban]

shows, but this is a better, this is a way better industry showcase.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Because the industry's home and they're comfortable. They're comfortable and they're like, oh, go see some shows and.

[Dan Soder]

But my question to you is when you're, when you were doing Aspen.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Like, you know, there's, there's like a certain like shine and glittery. When you go to a festival and you're figuring it out, how quickly did you put together? This is a fucking ski trip for HBO execs.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, that was, that didn't put it together. But what was great was we all knew that. So the comedians themselves were like, well, let's make this a party for ourselves.

[Dan Soder]

That's what I wanted to know.

[Brian Redban]

So the all night partying that went on, especially up in the oxygen deprived atmosphere. So people. I remember I walked back from a show with Chris Farley. This was like two in the morning in Aspen and it's just freezing cold and everyone's hammered and people are coming out of bars and they're seeing Chris and it was like walking down the street with a pope because, oh my God, it's Chris. And he's grabbing people and throwing them into the snow and people are buying him drinks. And so, like, it became this weird mobile party going down the streets of Aspen. That's incredible. It was gorgeous.

[Dan Soder]

So almost like they were getting mauled by a party yeti. Like, they'd come out and he'd be like, party yeti. He'd be like. Like the same exc of seeing a yeti. It's. Cause it's crispy.

[Brian Redban]

Throw me in the snow bank. And also these. Again, it's all super rich, coked out Aspen residents.

[Dan Soder]

We go, oh, my God. I've seen you before. Toss me. I won't press.

[Brian Redban]

And I'm also. I'm so drunk, none of my nerve endings are sending any pain signals. So this is the time to do it. Oh.

[Dan Soder]

Oh.

[Brian Redban]

So he was just throwing people into fire hydrants and stuff. It was amazing.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. That has gotta be very fun. What is? As a. Someone that grew up in Colorado was a Colorado resident.

[Brian Redban]

You did?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, I grew up in Aurora, Colorado.

[Brian Redban]

Okay.

[Dan Soder]

The altitude thing's very funny because it affects people in ways that will make a white guy that is perma in denim feel like a Sherpa in Nepal. Or the way that you help people where you're like, this man needs water.

[Brian Redban]

Yes.

[Dan Soder]

Man needs a place to lay down.

[Brian Redban]

This man is dizzy. I can. I've seen the signs. He's in the early stages. Well, because the residents, they've adjusted to the oxygen.

[Dan Soder]

Or you have the barrel chest. That's what they say. They say if you develop in Colorado, your rib cage actually is wider so that your lungs can expand more to take more oxygen in. I think it's called a Colorado barrel chest, but I know it's also called just a barrel chest.

[Brian Redban]

Oh. Cause Colorado barrel chest is a different thing where I come from.

[Dan Soder]

That's a sexy place.

[Brian Redban]

Will cost $75.

[Dan Soder]

And she goes, and I won't do it without someone in the room.

[Brian Redban]

And it involves at least two divorcees. It doesn't matter male or female. But they have to be divor for some reason.

[Dan Soder]

But it does. It does really feel like.

[Brian Redban]

Well, it's where the Olympians train.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. In Colorado Springs. So when I would have friends visit me or like, when I would bring, like, a girl I was dating from New York and we would go back to Colorado to meet my family or whatever, I would always be like, hey, number one, my family. My mom's family's very fun. Yeah, they're very fun. You're gonna want to drink with them.

[Brian Redban]

Don't.

[Dan Soder]

I'm telling you right now, it was like, I couldn't have given More of a crossing the river into a jungle country speech to these people. When I go, it will get dangerous. I will be there for you, but there's not much I can do after a certain point.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And then they start drinking, and you go, you're gone.

[Brian Redban]

We're done. Yeah. Yeah. I had one too many one night at a show in Aspen. And it was. And it was one of the few times where I just admitted on stage, like, yeah, I can't hide how drunk I am right now. I'm just. I. And it was. I wasn't drinking my normal amount to get me drunk, but I'm in Colorado.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

So it takes less, and I didn't factor that in.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

And so, yeah, there was just this. Oh, yeah, you know, I drank too much.

[Dan Soder]

Guys admitting that on stage, for people who don't do comedy, you have to understand, it's like you're telling your boss you're drunk. That's the equivalent of you working.

[Brian Redban]

Really. I know you paid money, but I didn't really show up for work today. I'm not really.

[Dan Soder]

If you just went into his office and you go, can I tell you something right now? I didn't adjust to this altitude of the office, and I'm pretty fucked up right now. I don't know if this meeting's gonna go.

[Brian Redban]

You might not want me on the forklift this afternoon.

[Dan Soder]

You might not want me.

[Brian Redban]

Probably not the best idea.

[Dan Soder]

I know the Swiss buyers are here. I would not put me in the room with them. I'm gonna want to ask him for chocolate. I'm drunk, and I really want chocolate.

[Brian Redban]

Okay. Swiss. I was in Amsterdam. My first time in Amsterdam. Yeah, baby. And I went to a coffee shop. I went to a lot of coffee shops to get stoned during the day.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Hell, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Shout out to Bulldog Cafe.

[Brian Redban]

The Abraxas Cafe for me.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

And shout out to Lucky Mothers, which was recommended to me by David Cross.

[Dan Soder]

Awesome.

[Brian Redban]

He was like, go to Lucky Mothers. And they were one of the last. This is in the late 90s. They were one of the last places that would put weed in food.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Brian Redban]

They were like, we can make you. We can roll you a joint, make you tea, or we put it in food for you. Put it in a candy bar or a cookie. And I went, yeah, give me a. Put it in a candy bar. So they gave me a Snickers bar, which they. I guess they sliced the top off, put all the marijuana, put the thing up, shaped the chocolate back on, and just a Snickers bar full of weed.

[Dan Soder]

Great.

[Brian Redban]

Now, I didn't know you're supposed to nibble that over the course of a week.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, it's a dosage.

[Brian Redban]

It's a ding, ding, ding.

[Dan Soder]

It's like getting pills from a pharmacy and just going, so I should take the whole bottle. They go, absolutely not. Please don't do that.

[Brian Redban]

I walked around the rest of the day, and I finished my Snickers bar, and then I had a show that night. And here's what was weird. I could do my material. I was not slurring. I could speak perfectly fine. I could not physically open my eyes.

[Dan Soder]

No way.

[Brian Redban]

So I did my set. I was like, guys. And I was again, I was like, listen, I went to Lucky Mothers and I bought a Snickers bar, and I ate the whole. And clearly I should not have. And I can't open my eyes right now. I'd love to do my material for you. And the audience actually was like, oh, yeah, we've seen this. Yeah, Like American. They came over. He ate the whole bar.

[Dan Soder]

They probably have a goofy Dutch word for it. Like, you, like, did an openstugen. Oh, yeah, that's the open stugen.

[Brian Redban]

Whenever they see that, they have to drink.

[Dan Soder]

I had a train conductor. This happened, too. I know the guy was running a train. Yeah, there is. There is.

[Brian Redban]

I could not open my eyes.

[Dan Soder]

Did you. Now, here's my question. In that moment.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Did you go for the sunglasses, please? Does anybody have a sunglasses?

[Brian Redban]

No. No. I wanted to own it. I was. I was very much that. I am. I really just. I was really. That. That was a point where I was really coming in, to be completely honest, on stage, even when it's embarrassing as shit. Like, absolutely. Say whatever you're doing.

[Dan Soder]

I'm hitting that stage, right?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Well, you're just like, oh, fuck. I. I did. Okay. I did a set last night at the last bookstore. Another Netflix at the joke store. And it was. And by the way, place was fucking to the walls, packed. It was amazing. And I did a joke that I. That is on my new special. This is. By the way, I know you've experienced this. This is gonna. This is gonna make you cinch up when I say it. I have this joke recorded it onto my special. It's. The special's coming out. It's recorded. Did it last night in the moment. Thought of a whole new better tag for it. A whole new better punchline.

[Dan Soder]

He's one of my producers. On my upcoming Netflix special, there's two bits that I fucking know.

[Brian Redban]

Yep.

[Dan Soder]

The second I record Them at the Throckmorton. The second the shows are over at the Throckmorton, and I go do a random show. I'm gonna figure out the thing I've been trying to figure out.

[Brian Redban]

I did it last night. Oh, my God.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, that makes me angry for you.

[Brian Redban]

And I stopped and said, I just writ. I go, my special is coming out on June 9th, and I'm letting you know you just heard a punchline to a bit. It will not be that funny on the special because I didn't think of it till just fucking now. And then I got so angry, I said, now out of anger. I will never do that punchline again. You are the only people to fucking hear it.

[Dan Soder]

That's pretty cool.

[Brian Redban]

Like, I'm just giving it to you, and I'm doing it. Like, there. Oh, I don't know.

[Dan Soder]

That is. That is proof to me that there is an intelligence higher than us that enjoys watching us have moments like that.

[Brian Redban]

Yes.

[Dan Soder]

Because you go every time.

[Brian Redban]

And by the way, every time. Every time I've recorded an album or special, and then I tore on it until it comes out for a couple months.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brian Redban]

At least three new punch lines where I'm like, are you kidding me?

[Dan Soder]

So this is something when I'm. You know, obviously, you still tour after you tape, and then you get tags, and then sometimes you get new ideas from bits. And then you're like, I can't, because I just did that whole bit. But a feeling that I'm looking forward to is I'm. I love my closer. Mm. It's very personal. I, like, like it. I'm so ready to be done doing it. I'm like. I mean, I am ready for a conscience coupler from this closer. I don't want a bad divorce. It's not gonna be messy. I appreciate everything. It's done.

[Brian Redban]

I'm just ready to, like, amicable go on your way. I'll always.

[Dan Soder]

I will leave you in the mists of Mill Valley. I will not.

[Brian Redban]

In the midst of Mill Valley.

[Dan Soder]

I will not see you.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, my God. You're leaving it beyond the rainbow Tunnel.

[Dan Soder]

That's what it is.

[Brian Redban]

You are beyond. It is beyond.

[Dan Soder]

Hey.

[Brian Redban]

What. What happened? That bit you did. It's beyond.

[Dan Soder]

It's beyond. You must go through the Robin Williams tunnel.

[Brian Redban]

Tunnel.

[Dan Soder]

My first time driving back through Marin after Robin Williams has died, and they re. Because I always knew that tunnel when I was a k. You know, You've known it. You've been in. You were in San Francisco in the 90s, early 90s. That rainbow was always there.

[Brian Redban]

Always.

[Dan Soder]

The rainbow was always over the bridge north of San Francisco, just past Sausalito. And when I was driving up to my grandmother's house.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And I took that corner off the bridge and it said the Robin Williams Tunnel. It was like someone fucking punched me in the chest. I was driving through a tunnel, being like, oh, he's fucking ripped me up.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. He's one of those guys that every now and then you go like, oh, wait, he's dead.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, that. Does.

[Brian Redban]

He gone.

[Dan Soder]

It really does sound.

[Brian Redban]

Did he.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, it was also like. You knew that was such a big loss, because I don't. People don't make a big enough deal of this at the time. But Robin Williams died in 2014.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Or. Yeah, 2014. And ISIS made a statement. Do you remember that?

[Brian Redban]

No.

[Dan Soder]

Mike, can you look it up? Isis. And by the way, we're talking about ISIS at its peak. We're talking about Zeppelin for ISIS. We're talking about. We're talking about Stone 72. Fucking ISIS. Like, they are. They're at the peak of their ISIS and they literally. Their PR guy, whoever the PR guy is, it always reminds me of Michelle Wolf's joke about isis, about there's a guy that makes the flag in isis.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that's right.

[Dan Soder]

But there's also a PR guy and he released a statement. Oh, you found it, dude. It's.

[Brian Redban]

Wait, it's real.

[Dan Soder]

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[Brian Redban]

That's fake.

[Dan Soder]

That's fake.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, but I know. Can I say something? I think that that was probably Jim Norton.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Feels like probably Jim Norton doing that.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Brian Redban]

But by the way, I'm sure there were guys like, America should burn and the ashes should be salted forever. But the genie in Aladdin is so delightful. But Mrs. Doubtfire, when the breasts are on, when they catch the fire, he should not be in a dress. Why is he in a dress? He's a man. He's great.

[Dan Soder]

So just recently, embarrassingly, we're talking about all things that are embarrassing. I have really learned how psychologically tied and tormented I am by the movie Mrs. Doubtfire.

[Brian Redban]

Really?

[Dan Soder]

It was on. We pay for the pay channels. We got hbo. We got Showtime.

[Brian Redban]

I spend. I spend.

[Dan Soder]

That's right. I spend the money.

[Brian Redban]

I got a Netflix special. Now I can afford some streaming.

[Dan Soder]

Listen, I gotta see what's going on out there. I gotta keep my thumb on the market. I. But Mrs. Doubtfire was on. Cause it was just like, I will doom scroll and I will watch, like, BBC News and get, like, a lot of anxiety. But now what I'm doing is I'm putting on the movie channels just as background noise and I'm stopping. I watched, like, Meteor man the other day.

[Brian Redban]

Meteor man is a weirdly underrated movie. Weirdly underrated. Actually kind of a really funny riff on superheroes.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Brian Redban]

Robert Townsend doesn't get the flowers he deserves.

[Dan Soder]

Robert Townsend did a black superhero movie. That holds up Pretty fucking great.

[Brian Redban]

Pretty fucking good.

[Dan Soder]

And I had a good time watching Meteor man. But then something rolled into Mrs. Doubtfire and Katie came home from work and she just noticed how much of a lock this movie had on me. Because I've been starting to realize I loved that movie. My dad was from the Bay Area. My dad always, you know, Robin Williams was a hero. His name was Daniel. There's just a lot of connections, okay. He fought to be in his kid's life. That's the whole underlying point of the movie, is he'll do anything to be with his kids. Watching that, as someone whose dad had zero interest being with his kids, I did not realize why I liked that movie.

[Brian Redban]

So, yeah. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And I'm uncovering it in a way that is very uncomfortable with my fiance watching me watch it. And she goes, oh, this movie fucked you up.

[Brian Redban]

And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Because you go, I didn't know. That's why I liked it.

[Brian Redban]

Yes, it is weird as you get older and then you look at something that you were growing up on that you liked for this one reason, and you sitting in and go, oh, no, there's a whole other thing that had me. I didn't realize.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, I thought I liked it because he did voices and it was Robin Williams.

[Brian Redban]

Yes. But then you watch it when you're like, oh, oh, there's way more about his children. Yeah. So much so again, yes, it's a very popular movie. It's, you know, one of the all time families love to watch it. But there is a weirdly dark complex. Like he is a fuck up as a husband. He's a horrible husband and a fuck up as a provider, but loves his kids anyway. And so it's like, how do I do this?

[Dan Soder]

You are. My dad had all like, Robin Williams, you know, horrible husband, horrible provider. Could be a horrible father. But he's not my dad. Hit all three of those. Oh, yeah, we hit the parlay on my dad. But on that one, the one that didn't hit was that he cared so much about his kids that he's willing to. And I will say this, deceive every. It's such a movie where you go, how did they pull this off? Cause this could look real bad.

[Brian Redban]

And there's cut scenes that you can find on YouTube where it was originally a. A much darker film. See, but all that darkness is now underneath it. They just didn't put it in there blatantly.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Cause Robin was. I mean, you know, I didn't. I wasn't friends with him, but we hung out a lot. Especially like, right. In his final years. We really. We kept running into each other at Meltdown on Sunset. Cause I'm a big comic book guy. So every Wednesday.

[Dan Soder]

Was he really?

[Brian Redban]

Oh, yeah. And then we would call each other and go, okay, what are you reading? Well, I just picked up this guy, Robert Kirk. He turned me onto a writer named Robert Kirkman. He goes, anything you see Robert Kirkman's name on, you grab it and start reading it.

[Dan Soder]

Would it be weird when you're like talking about like Planet Hulk and he's like, oh, oh. But then he fights like, would he do like Robin stuff or do you be like, oh, and you think Thor's not gonna make it out? But Son of Scar, he's pretty good. Red Hulk. Oh.

[Brian Redban]

The thing that always. One of the. There's so many tragedies to Robin Williams not being here. But one was that, you know, when you would hang out with him, he would do a little bit of the Robin stuff and then he would just talk and then talk about his life and how insane his career was. And he never got to do an amazing one man show where he just talked about. Cause his stories were so fascinating. And he was such a not just brilliant storyteller, but way tell a story and then give you an insight into it where he's like, I know that I approach the story this way. And then it took me like we were just saying about Miss Doubtfire. And then I looking at it this way, and you're like, fuck that trick. And he never got to do that. Why didn't he get to do that?

[Dan Soder]

I think everyone, you know, we were joking around. Me and derosa were joking around this about last night. Like, he was talking about Regan and he was like, he was like, regan, do one final thing where you just like Joe derosa said. He was like. He told Regan. He was like, just do a special called Cunt. And just like, just like, dude, like, it was so funny. I love Deros. But we were also saying that about.

[Brian Redban]

I'm sorry, you just. I just had a visual. Think of the Netflix save screen. It's the word. But it's still Brian doing his Brian Reagan face.

[Dan Soder]

But he's doing the doofus face where he's like. And it's like this. But like we were talking about that with Nate Bargetzi. Like, just set it on fire on your last one.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And that would be Robin Williams just going like, all right, here's really what happened on Mork and Mindy yeah. And here's what happened on Cadillac, man.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And I wasn't happy about Awakenings because De Niro was a prick. And you're like, I would love to hear. Yeah, you're right.

[Brian Redban]

We were like. The stories he would tell me about making Popeye crazy when they're so coked

[Dan Soder]

out of their mind.

[Brian Redban]

Well, first off, have you rewatched Popeye?

[Dan Soder]

No.

[Brian Redban]

Okay, go rewatch Popeye.

[Dan Soder]

We might have to do that as another watch along.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. It is a sneak remake of McCabe and Mrs. Miller, his earlier Robert Altman movie, to the point where they go to. When they go to the bedding track, there's a little red light. Whorehouse.

[Dan Soder]

Sure.

[Brian Redban]

And there's a woman with red curly hair lying on, like, one of those opium beds looking at a piece of stained glass, which is the final shot of McCabe and Mrs. Miller. They put that in there in the movie. And he said, we're on the island of Malta, which is gorgeous. But they had very, very strict import laws. We couldn't get cocaine in there. And our producer was Robert Evans. Robert Evans. One time I got Harry Nielsen and Robin Williams and Robert Altman to do Popeye. Was I crazy? I was like a fox.

[Dan Soder]

Whoever played Robert Evans in that show about making the Godf.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Who did that?

[Dan Soder]

Look that up. It's the Miles Teller Show.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, about.

[Dan Soder]

What is it called?

[Brian Redban]

Like, not the bargain.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, we'll get the Offer. The. Might be called the Offer.

[Brian Redban]

Okay.

[Dan Soder]

It might be called the Offer. It is the offer. That show was fucking phenomenal.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

But the guy that plays Robert Evans, if we look it up, he was fucking fun. Matthew good. Robert Evans.

[Brian Redban]

Listen, Matthew was good, but was he great? No one could be Robert Evans.

[Dan Soder]

No one, baby.

[Brian Redban]

No one, baby.

[Dan Soder]

Hey, we're gonna get coke. We need to get coke to Mota.

[Brian Redban]

Well, so Robin said they couldn't. They were having trouble getting cocaine in. And then suddenly every Friday, three, like, insanely hot Slovenian models would show up, and then they would go into the restroom and they would come out, and then there'd be cocaine for everyone. So. So Robert Evans would, like, get them to. You know, and. And then the custom guys were like, belize. And they wouldn't bother them, and then they would. That's how they got the.

[Dan Soder]

Can I tell you right now, by

[Brian Redban]

the way, that's a movie in itself.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Make that movie. Holy shit.

[Dan Soder]

Can I. Can I also tell you, it makes me yearn for a simpler time where beautiful women could trick men of authority by doing, like, under the chin and then smuggle in a kilo of cocaine in their pussy is by going, like, under the chin of a guy where he goes, oh, like that. You're like, please come to Malta.

[Brian Redban]

You're right, right.

[Dan Soder]

And then they're like. And they go, there you go, Evans, I got your brick in.

[Brian Redban]

Let me open this balloon up.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, that was.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Cause I only met Robin Williams once and he was very quiet. It was at the Comedy Cellar.

[Brian Redban]

He was. He. When he wasn't on, he was conserving

[Dan Soder]

his energy and like, Gilbert Godfrey. It was very similar.

[Brian Redban]

Yes, Gilbert was the same way. Yeah. I mean, although, every time I ever hung out with Gilbert, we were yakking about old movies and Belugosi. So I never really saw him calm

[Dan Soder]

because I watch him almost get, like, activated at the Cellar.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

He would just be, like, sitting there and he'd be like, oh, hello. Thank you. Thank you, Gilbert. You have to go on. And then you'd be like, why is

[Brian Redban]

it that I can't?

[Dan Soder]

But it was like, zero to a thousand. It's like the sand flats.

[Brian Redban]

You flip the switch. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

It was like one of those cars on the sand flats. He'd be like, I always remember. This is specifically what I always do. And everyone will talk about. Gilbert Godfrey always wanted to take home food.

[Brian Redban]

Yes, he did.

[Dan Soder]

So when you were comedy seller, food utensils. Anything.

[Brian Redban]

Anything. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

So him and his lovely wife would be at the Comedy Cellar, and they would always be talking to a waitress. And this was always before his set. And he'd be like, yeah, please, can

[Brian Redban]

I get that to go?

[Dan Soder]

And they'd give him, like, one of those plastic bags with, like, five to go things.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, my God.

[Dan Soder]

And then he would just go down those stairs and he would go up and he would just immediately. You could walk, you could sit in the stairs and hear it, like. Like a fucking siren go off. He'd be like, I'm standing here wondering why. That was when I used to listen to him. That's when I started doing Michelle Wolf as Gilbert Godfrey.

[Brian Redban]

And she was like, I don't understand. Why am I.

[Dan Soder]

It's very close.

[Brian Redban]

It's very similar. It is very.

[Dan Soder]

Okay, yeah, right. I do Michelle Wolf going, I have

[Brian Redban]

red hair and I love to run. What am I doing? Am I fast? Okay. I hate to take this conversation, in a way.

[Dan Soder]

Do it any way you want to.

[Brian Redban]

You were talking earlier, and then I cut you off and we never got back to it. About your new special, you have this closing bit that you'll Be very, very happy to be. Cause we're talking about when you think of a new thing.

[Dan Soder]

Sure.

[Brian Redban]

And you were about to say something about. Cause I also have a closing bit that I'm very secure knowing I can always close my show on it, but I have to let it go because I gotta do something new.

[Dan Soder]

It's a binky.

[Brian Redban]

It is a binky.

[Dan Soder]

It's a binky. I will tell you right now. When I was building this hour, I had that first. And there's, like, for any young comics watching, I would give the advice of get your closer first. Figure out, because you almost go. I would hit 35 minutes. I knew my closer was 20 minutes, so I would go, like, it would hit that 35 minute. Even if I was struggling, even if the show was like, I'm trying jokes and they're not really working, and I'm

[Brian Redban]

at the funny bone, I can always land on this.

[Dan Soder]

That 35 minute mark, and I go, like, here we go. You just go like, it was. It felt like a parachute. Like, you throw it and be like, all right, we're laying safely on this. But then now it's like I really am doing like a. Almost like a sitcom final episode. Like, running my hand along it being like, we went through a lot of shit, baby.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

But this is it. This is it.

[Brian Redban]

Remember that time we were locked in that ball?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. It's just me being like, oh, that show in Portland, Maine, really wasn't going well. And then you bailed me out, brother.

[Brian Redban]

So, you know, have they. Do they know what the release date of the special's gonna be? Cause you don't know that yet.

[Dan Soder]

They're. Now, this is one of those leasing ones where we're just making it.

[Brian Redban]

Oh. And then they'll. Okay.

[Dan Soder]

So it's like a Netflix special. One of the. You know, the people at Netflix are great. They've been great to work with, but one of them texted me and they were like, we're so excited to do this. And I was just not in the right mood, and I texted back, yeah, I'm excited for you to borrow my special for two years.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And then just no response after that.

[Brian Redban]

What if you had written back? Who's we?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, that's what it is.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

But there really is, like, they, you know, it's cool, and I'm excited for people to see it, but I. I'm very excited to tape a special in the Bay Area and. Because I feel like in the Throckmorton

[Brian Redban]

is such a gorgeous theater.

[Dan Soder]

It's so cool.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

So like very Northern California.

[Brian Redban]

My. My new special was the first one that I taped in an actual comedy club. I taped it at Comedy on State in. In Madison, Wisconsin, which I did it like a year and a half ago. That. Fuck. Yeah. It is a cheat code.

[Dan Soder]

That comedy works in Denver.

[Brian Redban]

Cheat codes is ridiculous. You know what it reminds me of? No, no, not the comedy works. That comedy on. On State in Madison was.

[Dan Soder]

No, I'm saying both of those.

[Brian Redban]

Both of those.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, they're equal cheat codes.

[Brian Redban]

They remind me of back in the 80s. The two clubs. Remember. Well, you're young. You don't remember this. We would send out. We would send out videotapes of ourselves, and they club that you mailed it. They had a vcr and they would put your tape in them.

[Dan Soder]

Okay, well, it's getting late now.

[Brian Redban]

That's how you. Yeah. Are you enjoying your peas, Patton?

[Dan Soder]

We're the first example of podcast sundowning.

[Brian Redban]

Yes. Oh, my God. But you would mail Judy Tanuda there with her. But we would mail our videotapes out. And the two places they wouldn't take videotapes from were Charlie Goodnights and Raleigh and the Ice House. Cause those were also cheat codes back then.

[Dan Soder]

So they knew.

[Brian Redban]

They're just like, this is not an indicator of how good or bad you are, buddy.

[Dan Soder]

You could fart on stage and get a standing ovation.

[Brian Redban]

You kinda could.

[Dan Soder]

Really?

[Brian Redban]

Especially at Charlie Goodnights. It was ridiculous how good it was

[Dan Soder]

when I started comedy. It was right when everyone went from tapes to DVDs.

[Brian Redban]

Yep.

[Dan Soder]

And I was starting in comedy, but I was an open Microsoft. I didn't have a tape or anything.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Dan Soder]

But I remember the club I started in Tucson, at Laughs.

[Brian Redban]

Okay.

[Dan Soder]

I would work other clubs around there or whatever. And I remember the owners being like, they're old. They were like old club owners and they go like this.

[Brian Redban]

Believe.

[Dan Soder]

They want us to take these DVDs. Like, they're like, what is this? You got. I got to buy a laser disc.

[Brian Redban]

Going to buy a whole new machine. What am I?

[Dan Soder]

Like, you send a tape.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And you get the tape. But I was at the ass end of the vhs.

[Brian Redban]

Okay.

[Dan Soder]

I was in the beginning where people

[Brian Redban]

were in the weird. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

If you had a camcorder that could make DVDs, you were like. You were king. People were like, please take my set.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Dan Soder]

First weekend that I emceed at Laughs is on a mini dvd.

[Brian Redban]

It's all the ones they had to

[Dan Soder]

put in the bigger one. Do you remember those?

[Brian Redban]

Yes.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Holy Jesus. That that pure technology truly transitioning. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

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[Dan Soder]

That's fucking.

[Brian Redban]

So I'm gonna send them all my raw CDs, and they're gonna catalog them. And so I'm like, damn.

[Dan Soder]

Before you do that, I would ask just because I always love finding out more stuff about comics that have been around longer. Because I think, like, what you said about the stuff about admitting your faults or whatever. Man. If I would have learned that in my 20s, I would have been such a better comic. Because it's so hard to learn.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. But I think what I'm glad is there are. Now there's documentation. My first HBO half hour and a lot of these early CDs.

[Dan Soder]

Piss Drinkers Inc.

[Brian Redban]

Even before that and also after that. But what I'm saying is there's also documentation of me before I was comfortable enough to be vulnerable on stage. There's early versions of me where I'm still in that. Let me tell you how it is.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

And I'm awesome and I'm brilliant and so you can. And it's like when you watch. There's really early. I'm not comparing myself to Richard Pryor, but there's early Richard Pryor where he's trying to be Bill Cosby. He's just not Richard Pryor. You can watch and you can see the transition starting to happen.

[Dan Soder]

There's. I think it's not the Dick Cavett Show. It's earlier than that.

[Brian Redban]

But way earlier.

[Dan Soder]

There's way earlier. There's like a prior on Might have been Jack Parr. Yes. And he comes out and he is just doing Cosby.

[Brian Redban]

Absolutely.

[Dan Soder]

Which is. If you ever can read the book Prior Convictions, the Autobiography of Richard Pryor, which he wrote before he died. There. The scene about him going to Berkeley and wearing the dashiki.

[Brian Redban]

That's right.

[Dan Soder]

Doing acid and then cussing. And then what's crazy is what they have documented is you can watch Richard Pryor live and Smoking, which he recorded at the Improv in New York City. And he fucking bombs.

[Brian Redban]

He bombed.

[Dan Soder]

He starts talking about sucking dick and it being addictive.

[Brian Redban]

They showed it at the American Cinematic and it's the one. And they even show a tiny clip of it at the beginning of Live In Concert where all the balloons are on stage. And he riffs something with the awning. And that actually gets laughs. But the rut. The audience, they are not ready for it. They're not digging it. And it's crazy to watch the junkie thing. And he. And he starts, he starts weaving back and forth. He goes, I'm sick. And the audience is just dead. Like, what are we looking at?

[Dan Soder]

He did not want it.

[Brian Redban]

No, no, no, no.

[Dan Soder]

You see, because then you watch 78, you know, live in concert, which is like one of the greatest hours of all time, which he's being heckled the entire time.

[Brian Redban]

Everyone's yelling. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Screaming at it. And he's doing these bits about his dad dying of a heart attack while fucking. And people are just fucking screaming at him. It's wild. And he stayed in the pocket. But I think the thing is, is like the question I had about getting older is, so you have all this archive.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Is there a part of you that before you send it to your alma mater, wants to listen to go, oh, I never did anything with that bit. But now I'm a much stronger comic. I can take that premise. Young, young, young Pat thought it was a good premise. Maybe older Pat.

[Brian Redban]

And can I really? I kind of. I remember Stephen King saying something about. He goes, I don't keep a notebook because if I get an idea and then it just stays with me and eats at me and then I know that's an idea to pursue. And if it doesn't stay with me, it means it probably wasn't that important. And if there was a bit that I just could not or didn't follow up on, I mean. Yeah, actually, I mean, I should listen to them.

[Dan Soder]

So just wonder if like. Like the thing we were talking about about you, you tape a special and all of a sudden you figure it out. Well, there also has to probably be something that you never figured out, that you put down out of frustration. Yeah. And then, you know what I mean? You walk by as. As a vet now and you pick it up and you go, oh, shit. That's how that goes. Because now I gotta.

[Brian Redban]

You know, old notebooks, well, they're. They're digit. Yeah. I have so many notebooks.

[Dan Soder]

So maybe do that. Like.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, do the notebooks. Yeah, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Because it is cool where you go. That's actually not a bad premise. 22 year old Dan.

[Brian Redban]

They're digitizing all that for me right now. So once I get it all. Cause I mean, it's just like hundreds of CDs of stuff being recorded off of soundboards and clubs. Like, hey, do you want this? I'm like, yeah. And I just took it and threw it in a closet.

[Dan Soder]

Great.

[Brian Redban]

But now I have it so I'll go through it and. Yeah, and I also. I have so many fucking notebooks, so I can go to those.

[Dan Soder]

And, you know, that's always what I thought was great about Stand up is like, nothing is ever really dead until you record it.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And then you just go like, oh, fuck, I completely forgot.

[Brian Redban]

And as we've learned, sometimes even when you record it, it's not dead. Because then a month later, you're like,

[Dan Soder]

hand comes out of the ground and you're like, seven of it.

[Brian Redban]

You're still alive. Has this ever happened? You have a bit, and you got it all worked out, and you fucking record it on a special on an album. And then you realize, oh, the whole first three minutes I could leave out, and it's even tighter. But I don't even need the whole fucking preamble for it.

[Dan Soder]

The reason I'm pointing at him is when I did my YouTube special, I did an hour in Portland. Portland Helium.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, that's a great club.

[Dan Soder]

That's a cheat code.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, that's another cheat code.

[Dan Soder]

We film it and we're in my living room editing it, and we just went like, I don't think we need that first 15 minutes at all. And then we cut it and we put it out. And then like, the first response was like, this is fucking airtight.

[Brian Redban]

And you're like, well, it had a

[Dan Soder]

bunch of air in it. They had 15 minutes of fucking burps and farts that we cut out of it. But yeah, I. It's like, that's always. To me, the fun part of the editing thing is, like, taking away stuff from it and being like, you don't need that. You don't get right there. And it's also like, I wish more things did that. Like companies and, you know, whether. Like car companies and just make things better. I feel like we're in a weird stage because, I don't know this disclosure.

[Brian Redban]

We're in incidentification right now where we're adding too much.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Brian Redban]

You know, like your. Your car. It's almost like I. It's almost like my car. My car dealership needs to have its own version of a genius bar I can bring, and they teach me what all the buttons do. Like, I don't need all this shit. Just run. Yeah, please just turn it on and go easy.

[Dan Soder]

Gps. But that's what's interesting right now is like, we're not efficient at making stuff as much as we used to be.

[Brian Redban]

No.

[Dan Soder]

And now there's also stuff coming out where you're like. And there's aliens might be real. Like, this is what it's happening. Like when we're inefficient and where we're just like. Yeah, because it keeps going. Like other people keep going. Like Disclosure. And the Spielberg movie happens to be coming out with like every. I don't know if I'm being marketed to or if there's otherworldly beings. That's what I'm trying to say.

[Brian Redban]

Or are they trying to ramp us up toward it so that there's not mass panic? Are they trying to ease us into it? And.

[Dan Soder]

Which is like.

[Brian Redban]

And by the way, listen, I rewatched Close Encounters of the Third Kind, which that movie is. That movie is probably one of the best movies of the 70s.

[Dan Soder]

So they're saying that this movie, Disclosure Day that comes out in June is an answer to that.

[Brian Redban]

Well, okay, here's. That's what I heard.

[Dan Soder]

I don't know if that's true.

[Brian Redban]

This is gonna sound very kind of. This is gonna sound. I hope this doesn't sound evil, but the whole section of the movie where they are trying to. They show the government dirty tricks, guys going, okay, we gotta think of a thing. It's a gas leak and we gotta scare people off. And they got the Piggly Wiggly trucks and they're hiding everything. And you're like, then from when that movie came out, based on how we have reacted to Covid and trans people and anything new and the panics that it's caused, I'm like, I think the government was right to keep that shit from, like, clearly as a species, we can't handle shit. So we cannot handle anything.

[Dan Soder]

This is an excellent point, that this is the only time I can make this point. I completely agree with that. Yeah. Because I am a child of the 80s and 90s. I grew up with hyper violent action movies.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

I mean, I grew up crazy obsessed with Rambo, Commando, Schwarzenegger and Stallone. Anything they did. I mean, B movies, anything. I could see where there was hyper violence.

[Brian Redban]

All the ripoffs. Want to see them?

[Dan Soder]

Oh, I want to say all the Jason, the eradicators. I love them. I love RoboCop Top 1, 2 and 3. I love the whole franchise. It's all my.

[Brian Redban]

I love them equally. Don't ask me to choose.

[Dan Soder]

Don't. I won't. Because I won't. I won't. Just like, I won't choose my Rambos. No, I know First Blood is an actual movie, but three. Three, they teach the Taliban to fight the Russians.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, I.

[Dan Soder]

Which that age Aged horribly.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Where you watch Rambo literally train Al Qaeda.

[Brian Redban]

And they. They're.

[Dan Soder]

I'm not joking. That's in. In Rambo fan.

[Brian Redban]

And the end title is, this movie is dedicated to the brave fighters of the Mujahideen who took down the building. Thank you, Osama.

[Dan Soder]

See?

[Brian Redban]

And then there's also. There's a James Bond movie where he teams up with the Mujahideen.

[Dan Soder]

That's what I mean.

[Brian Redban]

One of the Timothy Dalton ones. You're like, okay, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

The only thing better than getting pussy is teaching tennis how they fight. And you're like, I don't remember that one in James Bond.

[Brian Redban]

But I.

[Dan Soder]

I'm a child of hating Tipper Gore.

[Brian Redban]

Right?

[Dan Soder]

Parental advisory. Mtv, we were looking up to. Your generation is like, these guys. You guys were in your 20s.

[Brian Redban]

We don't give a shit.

[Dan Soder]

And you guys were cool. Gen X was like, fuck all this shit. Rock and roll needs to be uncensored. Rap music needs to be uncensored, and television needs to be uncensored. And I'm a kid, and I'm like, fuck, yeah. And then I get older and I grew up in Colorado, and, you know, a mass shooting happens, and you go, what a tragedy. Columbine. And then another one happens, and you go, was Tipper Gore right?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

You go, where? All those people that were like, there's too much violence in movies. And you're going, like, yeah, I'm on their side.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Like, you don't want to be on their side. But you're like.

[Brian Redban]

And then you read about, like, how the School of the Americas trains assassins. And one of the things. They desensitize people to violence. They torture animals from. Show them footage of people being killed. They don't. You're like.

[Dan Soder]

And you go, oh, no. And it would. I think what would have happened. Fast track. The thought of maybe they were right is if we found out that mass shooters were doing, like, Arnold lines. There he goes, like, sorry, mall's closed.

[Brian Redban]

Let off a little steam.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Did you know that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold's last words were schools out?

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And you go, oh, no, Pencils down.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. I would not.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, no, man. This makes it so much worse that they're doing fucking, like, little Arnold stingers at the end of their tragedies.

[Brian Redban]

I am all for free speech. I could not be more for free speech. But every now and then, there's something where I'm like, I'm all for free speech, but I'm also for smart speech. Like Sarah McLachlan she wrote that song Possession. And a lot of the lyrics, she took them from a letters that this obsessed fan was sending to her. A stalker. So she used his lines in the song. And I'm like, is that the best idea also?

[Dan Soder]

Let's just get into the legalities of it, right? Does he have a gripe as a songwriter?

[Brian Redban]

Apparently he did sue her. And it was. And then he ended up killing himself. But it's like, is that this? And then I remember right after the Oklahoma bombing, and you can watch it, there's a trailer for that horrible remake of Day of the Jackal called the Jackal.

[Dan Soder]

Jackal with Bruce Willis, Jack Black.

[Brian Redban]

And it's close ups of a hand.

[Dan Soder]

Or is that Falcon or Bruce Willis?

[Brian Redban]

No, Bruce Willis and Sidney Poitier and Richard Gere.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Brian Redban]

And Jack Black has a horrific death in that movie.

[Dan Soder]

Yes. With the gun. I know, exactly. Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

But there's so in the trailer, there's like close ups of the hand of hands. His hands. Like building a bomb and wiring stuff. And the voiceover is. In his own way, he's an artist, and this will be his master masterpiece. I was like, are these the images and lines to put. Especially with the way the country is. Is that the best thing to be saying right now? Everyone, I am an artist.

[Dan Soder]

Because the doc, the documentary, if you were alive, for the Oklahoma City bombing. And I remember at the exact same time, what was going on was Richard Kuklinski. So people were linking, thinking that the Unabomber was the Oklahoma City bomber.

[Brian Redban]

Right.

[Dan Soder]

And then it was like. But you're right, there was this, like, fever where all anyone wanted to talk about was Oklahoma City bombing.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

So there was an exec that was cutting it where the guy, the voiceover guy goes, I, I can't do this. I can't do this.

[Brian Redban]

I don't.

[Dan Soder]

They go do it. And he goes, this. This is his art. I mean, I lost a cousin. My cousin worked in the federal building in Oklahoma City, and this is his masterpiece. I mean, guys, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah, There is like this.

[Brian Redban]

Do you want to get your deck stained or not?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. But there is this, like, sensitivity where you go, maybe we don't do this right now.

[Brian Redban]

Maybe it's not the biggest.

[Dan Soder]

Same with.

[Brian Redban]

Look, I love Eli Roth. And this probably isn't even Eli's fault. Again, they cut the trailers. You have very little control. But it was right after all of the Trayvon Martin death and again, all the students. His remake of Death Wish.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, yeah.

[Brian Redban]

And the trailer is he's like in a hoodie and I've got to protect what's mine. And then there's this hot blonde with big boobs. You're locked and loaded, baby. I'm like, these are not the best images to be putting out right now, guys.

[Dan Soder]

You guys are really putting some. It's like starting an argument between a drunk couple. There you go. Didn't you forget her at the airport one time? And they go, yeah, you fucking did, you bitch. And then they're just in it. And you go, you shouldn't have.

[Brian Redban]

Shaking up a jar of red ants. There we go.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, exactly. You're just making everyone angry. And there always is like. I'm always amazed at that level of evil, which I don't know if you can call it evil or if you want to call it just pure apathy.

[Brian Redban]

I think it's pure apathy or greed.

[Dan Soder]

Apathy caused by greed.

[Brian Redban]

Apathy caused by greed. And then the apathy is there to. So they can soothe their own greed. They've looked in a mirror and gone, fuck. That's a really evil, greedy ass thing to do. And then so the only way to predict it's like, well, I don't fucking give a shit. Look at me. Is the businessman balling, dude?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Or then they'll do this shit where they're like, look, we all do this shit. Like, they try to make it so that everyone is like, no, not everyone is corrupt and shitty as you.

[Dan Soder]

Which I feel like is the antithesis of how they got so many people in the Epstein shit where they were just going like, what, man? We all go to the island. We party. Like, there might be guys that just went to Epstein island that were like, dude, I did a business deal. They said they would sign the deal if I went to this island.

[Brian Redban]

Listen, go watch or read Serpico. The first thing the corrupt cops do is like, like, hey, you want some free, free food? You want to. They're like, they. They immediately want you. Yeah, they and the park. The first thing they want to do is get you on the payroll. So you can go now. You can't blow a whistle, cuz you're on it too.

[Dan Soder]

That's that meeting in the park with all the other cops. They go, yeah, dude, we just do this.

[Brian Redban]

Come on, man, you're in.

[Dan Soder]

And by the way.

[Brian Redban]

And the first person that goes, hey, I don't want this. They're like, okay, get rid of him.

[Dan Soder]

By the way, comics are no different. We are no. We are the most corrupt cops. Where they go like this. Hey, you should really, like, just try to be funny, try to be real, try to be yourself. Try to be authentic and make people laugh. And you go, yes. Protect and serve. That's all I want to do. And then you see the first guy that goes, well, I took the bit because I needed it.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

He's like smoking a cigarette. He goes, why wouldn't I take the bit? Well, he's not gonna use it. He's in fucking New Mexico. So I took it and I took it to la. And you go, oh, that's corrupt. But then they do a small thing where they go, I don't know, I've got a lot of fans. Why don't you come on my. My podcast? Like, oh, man.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, am I compromised.

[Dan Soder]

We could totally dirty cop in 2026.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. I mean, again, I don't want to bring up the Riad thing, but we could go down some very bad roads

[Dan Soder]

here, like, get a taste.

[Brian Redban]

Come on, man. Don't you want a little baby, baby?

[Dan Soder]

This guy from Montreal. Have a little taste. And you go, oh, yeah.

[Brian Redban]

Anyone you've ever attended, they've all had

[Dan Soder]

to fucking do it.

[Brian Redban]

Don't worry about. You know, I'm like. It's like Denzel Washington in Training Day. Yeah, listen, you gotta do this shit so you can then do the stuff that. Then we can do the stuff that's good.

[Dan Soder]

Exactly. You have money to tour. Meanwhile, I'm at home like a Chicago cop, holding on with my wife. I'm like.

[Brian Redban]

I'm like, don't you understand, Katie?

[Dan Soder]

I'm doing jokes about my dead dad.

[Brian Redban]

They're out there doing TikTok shit.

[Dan Soder]

I don't want to be posted on

[Brian Redban]

their damn influencers acting like caps. I don't want to talk to the crowd, but it's what everyone's doing.

[Dan Soder]

I do feel like Dennis Farina.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Just that whole thing is farina, you know? I don't know, what am I doing here? I was a wise guy. They're not wise guys.

[Brian Redban]

But have you seen how now whenever Maria Bamford does crowd work, she'll give the person $20 because, like, you're working.

[Dan Soder]

That's so great.

[Brian Redban]

You should get money for this. It's the same as when you go to the store and they have the automatic bag or thing. You're like, are you going to pay me for putting in and out time doing shit?

[Dan Soder]

I think the sign of hall of fame all time joke is that whenever you do something, you think of someone's bit. I cannot bag my own groceries without thinking of Bill Burr's joke about work, the self checkout line where he goes, oh, this whole time I thought I was a comedian. Turns out I was late for my

[Brian Redban]

shift at the grocery store.

[Dan Soder]

He like does this whole thing. I think of that line every time I'm back where it's like, oh, yeah, no, I work at the grocery store.

[Brian Redban]

Well, I did a bit and I stopped doing because it was so grim, but it was real. I mean it got laughs, but I got sad doing it. Do you remember when the self checkout things first came out and they had the other checkout, the actual checkout, people teaching you how to use it, teaching you how to replace them.

[Dan Soder]

They go, I'm gonna be absolute.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. But they, they made the humans in the store come over and go, this is how I'm out of a job.

[Dan Soder]

They still do that.

[Brian Redban]

Let me show you which is the.

[Dan Soder]

It's the most cook chair.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

In the world. Where they go, you sit right there in your chair.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Watch the computer do it.

[Brian Redban]

But like part of you wants to go, no, let me, let me go over to your aisle and let you, no, no, I don't want you getting

[Dan Soder]

out of my way, please. I will go out of my way to check out.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Human being.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah, me too. To be like, I won't use those things. I feel terrible.

[Dan Soder]

Bag of meat. Look at me. Bag of meat.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Scan, scan. The things that bring me fuel.

[Brian Redban]

It's. It's 5:45. You just put in eight hours work and we need you to put in another 20 minutes here at the store. By the way, none of your groceries are going to be cheaper. You get no discount for doing this.

[Dan Soder]

And I, if I'm going to do that, I'm going to take smoke breaks with the guys that work at the grocery store.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

You're going to be like, where were you? There's an island backed up and I'm

[Brian Redban]

going to steal some yogurt pretzels out of the bulk bins like everyone else does.

[Dan Soder]

I mean, my God, I do. Honestly, one of the things I do miss about working a shitty job is stealing from a place that I thought was fucking me over. It's a good youth thing to go to.

[Brian Redban]

It's a very good you thing to

[Dan Soder]

do because you feel like you take a little bit of the power back.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. A little bit of the. No matter where you work because you are making someone else money and you're throwing away.

[Dan Soder]

If it's a large corporation, I'm not talking about small businesses.

[Brian Redban]

No if you're working for. But if you're a massive change.

[Dan Soder]

I worked for Bed Bath and Beyond.

[Brian Redban]

Oh.

[Dan Soder]

This is when I was saving up money to move to New York.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, so that's why they went out of business. Because of your shit.

[Dan Soder]

Because I just was in the middle, taking those chocolate bars of the sheets, eating a whole chocolate bar and then hiding it in like the plastic of a down comforter. Like, you know how many people in Tucson, Arizona bought down comforters? Went home and took it out of the bag and found a lint wrapper, like stuffed in the thing where they were like, why is there a chocolate wrapper? Just because 21 year old me was just eating chocolate and shoving it in there.

[Brian Redban]

The Arizona Chocolate Phantom. I can't believe I'm talking to him. Wow. I always thought it was an urban myth.

[Dan Soder]

Apparently it's real Arizona chocolate fandom. If that's not the real this episode, I'm never podcasting again. Dude, I can't tell you how much this meant that you were able to change your schedule and come and hang out.

[Brian Redban]

I was glad you were because my schedule got today. So this was great, man.

[Dan Soder]

You are all timer. One of my favorite comedians. I said this to you when we hung out in Grand Rapids with Brandon Sagalo.

[Brian Redban]

That's right.

[Dan Soder]

Which was very fun. And also Sagalo didn't want to do this, but you're as fast favorite comedian. He was just like the whole time like, dude, this is surreal. You did a guest spot where we

[Brian Redban]

were at Dr. Grins and I stayed and watched your set and it was fucking so goddamn hilarious.

[Dan Soder]

I really appreciate that.

[Brian Redban]

It was so chaotic and real and it was like, I don't want to gush too much, but it was one of those things where, I mean, I did a guest set, I did very well. But then you came in and it was you and the audience clicked on this other level. And I just kind of of sat back and went, oh, here we go. And it was so great.

[Dan Soder]

I'm having you're. I'm gonna have you cut that exact piece. I'm gonna play that when I'm on a plane fucking sliding.

[Brian Redban]

Oh, here we go.

[Dan Soder]

You know, as I told you in Grand Rapids, truly your HBO One night stand, yours and Dave Chappelle's are truly the reason. Same season.

[Brian Redban]

That's right.

[Dan Soder]

I can still quote most of the half hours, both yours and Dave's. I could do the whole Nick Nolte is on solo. I can do the whole cops bit. I can do Piss Drinkers Inc. As I said earlier, wow. But truly set me on my way to doing stand up, because I watched you and Dave Chappelle and I was like, well, I want to do that.

[Brian Redban]

Thanks.

[Dan Soder]

Like, I remember that. So just the fact that you went and hung out and how cool of a guy you are means the world to me. This is, like, the best.

[Brian Redban]

Thanks, man.

[Dan Soder]

OSWALD the Special, June 9. On.

[Brian Redban]

On YouTube. On. You can get it now. Gorilla comedy. New streaming app has all your favorites on it. Me, David Cross, Every. Every. Everyone's on there. Yeah, but then on June 9th, it'll be on YouTube.

[Dan Soder]

That's. I'm telling you right now. The thing about YouTube specials that's great is when people hear that, they go, I have access to that.

[Brian Redban]

You can just watch it right now.

[Dan Soder]

You just watch it, right? Fucking watch on your phone to go sign up for anything.

[Brian Redban]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

It's fucking great. Well, check out a special June 9th. This rules. You rule. Thank you.

[Brian Redban]

Thanks, man.

[Dan Soder]

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[Brian Redban]

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