140: Normalize Diarrhea with Ari Shaffir | Soder Podcast | EP 137

Summary

Soder Podcast | Ep 140: "Normalize Diarrhea" with Ari Shaffir

Host: Dan Soder
Guest: Ari Shaffir
Date: June 23, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this lively and candid episode, Dan Soder welcomes comedian Ari Shaffir for a conversation that blurs the line between comedic storytelling, road tales, and genuine friendship. The episode revolves around festival and comedy industry stories, wild food adventures, concert shenanigans, the subtle art of surviving as a comic, and the not-so-glamorous realities of international travel—as captured in the title’s call to “normalize diarrhea.” Both hosts share honestly about their experiences in comedy, touring, friendships, and the importance of just letting loose and being yourself.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Comedy Industry Stories & The Netflix Roast

• Dan sells his car “smoothly,” setting a “waiting for the catch” theme. [00:00]
• Behind the scenes of a Netflix comedy roast: Ari and Dan dissect the oddities of production, crowd seating (“why the rich people up front?”), show pacing, and the nature of live vs. edited televised events. [01:30–05:23]
• Big J’s performance: Both beam with pride about Big Jay Oakerson crushing at the roast, despite nerves about aesthetic biases (“Was anyone worried how ugly he is?”—Ari, 03:55).
• Ari muses on how comedy events could be better for both comics and crowd, like Billy Joel bringing lively fans forward. [10:00–10:23]

Quote:
"[Big J] murdered! I love murdered. He loved it. He was Big J. It’s what I told him."
— Dan Soder [03:48]

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2. Backstage & Table Vibes: The Comic Social Economy

• Comic seating politics: Ari’s table at the roast included Lewis, Tom Papa, and Eric André. Stories highlight the sometimes-uncomfortable jockeying for position, funny photo moments, and the “tornado” energy of certain comics.
• Eric Andre as punk rock spirit and how fame changes (or doesn’t) certain comics.
  Quote:
  "He wants to burn it down at all times, every time. It’s great."
  — Ari Shaffir [08:01]

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3. Red Carpets, the Comedy Store, and the Art of the Hang

• Both bond over their dislike of red carpets and share Comic Store hierarchies, the “door guy” dynamic, respect for the hustle, and dealing with big egos. [24:35–33:05]

Quotes:
"It was our clubhouse."
— Ari, on the Comedy Store [24:38]
"When people understand what other people do at a job, it makes them such a better coworker."
— Dan Soder [27:29]

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4. Food, Travel, and Bodily Taboos

• Yerba mate in Argentina: Ari introduces Dan to the strong South American tea, and the conversation turns to food adventures and guinea pig as a delicacy. [13:30–16:00]
• Food poisoning & “Normalize Diarrhea”: An honest, hilarious deep dive into surviving intestinal issues abroad; Ari gives practical medical tips and shares street-meat horror stories.
  Quote:
  "In Southeast Asia I never didn’t have diarrhea for four and a half straight months."
  — Ari Shaffir [47:00]
  "Normalize diarrhea. That’s a good—that’s a t-shirt."
  — Ari Shaffir [47:18]

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5. Concert Rituals and Social Dynamics

• On earplugs, leaving early, and concert regrets: The duo recall a misadventure at LCD Soundsystem and the importance of “concert hacks” (bring real earplugs!). [48:18–51:17]
• The solo show experience vs. the group: Sometimes enjoying a show means ditching your friends and finding your own corner—a lesson in growing up as a concert-goer.
  Quote:
  "He just wanted to be separated from his family. And he had two drinks, and he was behind us, and I just wanted to be alone."
  — Dan Soder, on a concert dad [54:00]

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6. Fan Culture: Enthusiasm vs. Overwhelm

• They tease "fan shaming," discussing people who “gatekeep” at concerts and ruin it for newbies, and urge listeners to “let people find it.” [56:01–63:12]

Quote:
"It’s great being a fan. Rules. Just don’t be too much of a—let people find it."
— Dan Soder [63:11]

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7. Ari’s New Project: “The End”

• Ari plugs his new self-produced storytelling show "The End" (a spiritual successor to "This Is Not Happening"), sharing how it revives the best moments from the old show and gives comics (including Dan and Shane Gillis) a freer, wilder platform. [63:23–69:45]

Quote:
"You want a comic going, ‘Guys, if you think of something in the moment, go for it. If it doesn’t go, I’ll drop it.’"
— Ari Shaffir [64:57]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On production anxiety:
  "That is the problem. Nothing in my life goes as smoothly." — Dan Soder [00:08]
• On travel dining:
  "I'm honest enough to tell you, like, hey, I tried it—don't do that. Or like, dude, you should try guinea pig...it's delicious." — Ari Shaffir [15:28]
• On managing diarrhea abroad:
  "There's a small difference in feeling between food poisoning and just diarrhea...make the decision right away, which one is this?"
  — Ari Shaffir [45:49]
• On friendship through music:
  "One of my greatest privileges in life is doing drugs and going to concerts with Ari Shafir."
  — Dan Soder [52:14]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–01:30: Opening banter, car-selling anxiety
• 01:30–05:23: Comedy roast and production talk
• 07:39–08:25: Eric Andre’s punk rock comedy ethos
• 09:10–13:01: Stories from the table at the roast/festival
• 13:30–16:33: Yerba mate, food travel stories, guinea pig
• 24:35–33:21: Comedy Store culture and door guy memories
• 39:10–40:28: Adventures in spice and sugar, family food preferences
• 44:10–47:55: Diarrhea and food poisoning tips on the road
• 48:18–51:17: LCD Soundsystem concert misadventure & earplugs advice
• 54:00–56:26: The art of solo concerts
• 62:32–66:48: The return of Ari’s storytelling show, "The End"
• 67:11–68:32: Legendary mushroom episode
• 68:39–69:53: Directing listeners to Ari’s new project and closing

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

Fast-paced, self-deprecating, and loaded with inside-comedy and road life details, this episode captures the chemistry between longtime friends and comedians. The sincerity in sharing mistakes, regrets, and honest-to-God bathroom tales give the show its easy, trusting vibe. It’s an ode to comic camaraderie, surviving on the road, sharp observational humor, and a gentle mocking of fan and industry excesses. Above all, it’s about embracing the mess—whatever it is—and normalizing the less glamorous realities of comedy life and genuine friendship.

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For More:

• Watch “The End” at AriShaffir.com or YMH Studios
• Follow Dan and Ari’s tour dates for upcoming live shows

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Transcript

[Dan Soder]

I sold my car in Carvana last night.

[Ari Shaffir]

Well, that's cool.

[Dan Soder]

No, you don't understand. It went perfectly. Real offer down to the penny. They're picking it up tomorrow. Nothing went wrong. So what's the problem? That is the problem. Nothing in my life goes as smoothly. I'm waiting for the catch. Maybe there's no catch. That's exactly what a catch would want me to think. Wow. You need to relax. I need to knock on wood. Do we have wood? Is this table wood? I think it's laminate. Okay. Yeah, that's good. That's close enough. Car selling without a catch.

[Ari Shaffir]

Sell your car today on Carvana.

[Dan Soder]

Pick up fees may apply July 16 through the 18. I'm going to be at New York Comedy Club in Stanford and then Montreal, just for laughs. I'm going to be there July 25th at Club Soda, doing an hour. So it's going to be, you know, mostly the Netflix hour. If you didn't hear it. I didn't go to Montreal on the tour. Plus some new jokes. But then after that, it's all me working on new stuff. So I will see you in Albany July 31st and 1st at the Albany Funny Bone. Just go to dancer.com. what am I doing? Just go to dancer.com. after Albany, go to dancer.com. it's all there. We all put it up. But I'm on the road working on a new hour, so come check it out. I hope you like it. There's gonna be some real humdingers on there. It's gonna be some real shitty ones, too. So just come see it. Come watch. Get birthed. Watch me push them out on the road. But thank you for watching the podcast. Now we can hit record and get the real shit talking going. Ted Sarandos.

[Ari Shaffir]

And I was like. I was like, hey, buddy. I'm like. Then afterwards, you know, I felt like a fool. I'm like, should have said, like, hey,

[Dan Soder]

we've never officially met.

[Ari Shaffir]

Amari, I like the way you stood up for Chappelle. Thanks for whatever, but nice to meet you.

[Dan Soder]

What was.

[Ari Shaffir]

Instead of pretending this is a question

[Dan Soder]

that obviously I can't ask Lewis, because he'll just go like, oh, my God. Him dancing when the rock came out.

[Ari Shaffir]

Everyone a good time, Everyone.

[Dan Soder]

How were you drunk?

[Ari Shaffir]

We were having a good time.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. That's awesome. Was that was it?

[Ari Shaffir]

We were having a good time.

[Dan Soder]

So when Shane made the joke about, why'd you put the rich people up front? Yeah. All the animals are on the side. And you heard the crowd go, What

[Ari Shaffir]

a good idea to get them involved.

[Dan Soder]

It was great.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Did you feel like the rich people were up? Could you feel that in the jokes?

[Ari Shaffir]

It was early on. It was right away.

[Dan Soder]

It was right away. It was opening monologue. We were walking in and. And.

[Ari Shaffir]

And who was on stage? Oh, fucking.

[Dan Soder]

You came in late.

[Ari Shaffir]

No, no, no. There was a warm up back there. Like, everybody go in.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, really? Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

And they put Alonzo Boden. Alonzo Bowden on stage.

[Dan Soder]

I saw.

[Ari Shaffir]

And people were walking and talking. He's yapping. He was saying stuff about George Wallace and he was just, george, George, I'm talking to you. And he's like. Just did not even know. I had to go over.

[Dan Soder]

I'm like, george.

[Ari Shaffir]

Oh.

[Dan Soder]

Like that.

[Ari Shaffir]

Like no one's paying attention. It was like.

[Dan Soder]

And this is in the pit right in front of the day.

[Ari Shaffir]

It was a check drop spot to warm up. It was so dumb. Just have a band going and then lower the house lights once everybody's in and oh, we're ready to start. It was. It was in. It was. They set him up. The only other one I saw was before the Strokes. They put Seaton in the dark on a shitty mic and said, go before the Strokes.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

In between bands.

[Dan Soder]

It was so.

[Ari Shaffir]

I was so rough.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. That is a. That is a gig where I was really wondering because I thought when you saw the Countdown on Netflix, it was going to go to like red carpet and like someone who's hosting and hey, the event's about to start. And now we're gonna go in live to the. But they were just like, here's Shane Gillis. And then he just came out and did the joke.

[Ari Shaffir]

There's so much that me as a producer would do different on everything.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, my God.

[Ari Shaffir]

On any shoot. And I look at where the cameras are. I just start at a really good

[Dan Soder]

point because I immediately was like, did you go?

[Ari Shaffir]

You didn't go?

[Dan Soder]

No, I was out of there as fast as I possibly.

[Ari Shaffir]

If Big J wasn't on it, then I don't know if. I don't know if I would have gone, yeah, dude.

[Dan Soder]

And by the way, Big J murdered. I love Murdered. He loved it. I loved. He was. He was Big J. It's what I told him.

[Ari Shaffir]

I was only nervous that the crowd would. Would not. Would be upset about how ugly he is.

[Dan Soder]

But.

[Ari Shaffir]

But they seem to not care. They seem not. Shane said the. He looked like he.

[Dan Soder]

He did look like he ran a Reno strip club with the red in the hair. But he. When he. Where he was in the lineup. I. I stopped being worried when I saw.

[Ari Shaffir]

No, we got it together. He goes, they sent me the lineup, like, where I'm like, oh, dude. And also, you're following a non comic.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, it was perfect.

[Ari Shaffir]

I think everyone followed a non comic.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. And that was. That was the note. I would say that was a good note. But something that I said that Katie had a good point on, where I was like, haven't they learned from Comedy Central to edit these? So it's just like an hour of killer. And then Katie was like, I guarantee, with all the famous people they get, they can't do a taped. Because everyone the next day would be butt hurt and be like, hey, you can't do that joke about me. Hey, you can't do that joke about me. Like, it would get heavily. Oh, heavily edited. Well, have to, because they're already cutting jokes now if you watch it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Oh, they did that.

[Dan Soder]

Weren't I.

[Ari Shaffir]

You should have the live version and then. And then a better version later.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Kevin Hart went on two and a half hours into the show. He should be on an hour 40 into the show.

[Dan Soder]

Exactly. And also the Rock did like 30 when he should.

[Ari Shaffir]

When did we just find out the Rock's a black comic?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Holy sh. Yeah, dude. He was. He was dabbing himself. He's like, lady's looking lovely here tonight. He hit him with that. He hit him with a Ladies look lovely here. Did you see anybody at the roast that didn't want to see you? Like, did you see any, like, famous people that you're like. You don't fucking like?

[Ari Shaffir]

Great question. Interview Dan.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Interviewer Dan has a great question.

[Dan Soder]

I do. I was. I think that's a great question.

[Ari Shaffir]

There's one I thought I saw on the way out that I realized, like, oh, shit. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't vet who was at my table. It could have been anybody. That one that we. We both were in the green room a long time ago.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

We're like, g. Yeah. And I think I saw that guy and I was like, oh, my God. Thank God I didn't have to sit

[Dan Soder]

at a table with.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Did you.

[Ari Shaffir]

Did my table ruled.

[Dan Soder]

Who was your table?

[Ari Shaffir]

Me and Lewis.

[Dan Soder]

Great. By the way, Lewis would.

[Ari Shaffir]

How upset Lewis was for getting guest of Ari Shafir because I told them his name so much. And I was like, did you see that? He goes. He was so mad.

[Dan Soder]

He was waiting for the J too. I know Lewis. He was waiting for that J before

[Ari Shaffir]

he goes, it's Jay that put the J and like. Well, it doesn't matter because put it anyway then. No, this is just for the cameras know who they're shooting. Like so put it in.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, so put it to Jay because they know it's me.

[Ari Shaffir]

Doggy sat down. Papa was there with his wife.

[Dan Soder]

Great.

[Ari Shaffir]

Who I've met his wife too.

[Dan Soder]

Love Tom Papa.

[Ari Shaffir]

God, that guy rules.

[Dan Soder]

He's the best.

[Ari Shaffir]

Didn't bring bread.

[Dan Soder]

That sucks. But what did he judge the bread they gave you? Did they give you food there?

[Ari Shaffir]

So I asked beforehand cuz I'm like, I'm going to get lit. So we had to take these pictures. The red carpet so uncomfortable was great.

[Dan Soder]

Lewis grabbing your dick. What a skanks picture.

[Ari Shaffir]

You saw that?

[Dan Soder]

I loved it. I absolutely loved it to everybod.

[Ari Shaffir]

It was also so funny that they were like we come in but it's like 1, 2, 3, 4. The Stephanie Chelsea is over there. So they go, oh no. And they're going a long lens. I'm like, no, no, guys, I'm here. It's supposed to take my picture. Now like yeah, we're long lens this winter.

[Dan Soder]

Damn. Yeah, so they skipped you for.

[Ari Shaffir]

And they're like guys.

[Dan Soder]

And they go for far away Chelsea Handler.

[Ari Shaffir]

Oh, we'll take one shot.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, but yeah, you got the dick. I mean Lewis got the dick. Grabbing. Did he take the gloves off?

[Ari Shaffir]

We held him on.

[Dan Soder]

You held them on? You both had him on. And then.

[Ari Shaffir]

And then Derosa came and goes, I can't go alone. I couldn't either. Yeah, so I understand. I'll go with you. I took those off because it was just a Rosa.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Ari Shaffir]

Although he was a temporary candidate for.

[Dan Soder]

He was until you served him with Shane.

[Ari Shaffir]

Who will betray the betrayed.

[Dan Soder]

When Shane moved in all under my funding. Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

There were people that. And then Eric Andre was there.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, I saw him at your table. He ruled. Yeah, that was a fun. I bet that was a fun.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, I've been. I've sound like a couple times in the last week and it was like, oh yeah, I forgot that guy's just a comic. Some of these guys are going to become massive stars and then change slightly. Well, Eric is like, oh yeah, you're the same dude as. As JFL when we were both trying to get on stuff.

[Dan Soder]

Well, what I learned from him doing this podcast is he's like literally punk rock. He is.

[Ari Shaffir]

He's like punk rock.

[Dan Soder]

He's very punk rock. Like he wants to burn it down

[Ari Shaffir]

at all times every time. It's great. That was a show Ye.

[Dan Soder]

When he was on here, he wanted to burn it down.

[Ari Shaffir]

And then we were like, dude, dude, I live here also. Stop.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, I was just kind of like. There was a moment where I was like, all right, dude, chill out. And then he was like. Like, he completely went like, ah. Like, he. Like. Like, you got it once you get him. So that's a fun. So derosa. Eric, Andre.

[Ari Shaffir]

No, no, there was. There. I just saw him before, and he goes, I can't do this red carpet thing alone, please, because we're so uncle.

[Dan Soder]

You're.

[Ari Shaffir]

You'd be the same way.

[Dan Soder]

I hate it.

[Ari Shaffir]

This is not.

[Dan Soder]

Refuse to do billions red carpets because

[Ari Shaffir]

no one else knows how to hold their. Their arms.

[Dan Soder]

And where they go like this. I. Over here, over here, over here. Give us another pose. I just went through and went. That's why. If you see my red carpet picture from. I think it's season two or three of Billions, I go like this. That was the only smile I. I

[Ari Shaffir]

was like, that's where Lewis comes in handy.

[Dan Soder]

Or he give a.

[Ari Shaffir]

At all. So then he's straight dick grab.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. And they're like, Lewis will be like this. He'll pro wrestle the red carpet.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's great.

[Dan Soder]

Spit water and be like, what are you guys gonna do? He's a theater kid.

[Ari Shaffir]

He doesn't see any moments. He just goes, I'm doing my thing.

[Dan Soder]

Always. Yeah, he's. He's a tornado. If he comes in and crashes your.

[Ari Shaffir]

We were dancing to the Roots. No, our table was having a blast.

[Dan Soder]

Did you see tables that weren't.

[Ari Shaffir]

I'll tell you, there was Mo and. And Earthquake.

[Dan Soder]

Sure.

[Ari Shaffir]

Like, up and right there.

[Dan Soder]

Sure.

[Ari Shaffir]

And Earthquake was standing up going forward every time. Earthquake is having a good time. So is Mo. Because Earthquake also. Earthquake is in the audience. More than that, when you have a crowd, if you have three fat black ladies in front having a good time, everyone's having a good time. And Earthquake did that to that bottom section.

[Dan Soder]

Great.

[Ari Shaffir]

He's the.

[Dan Soder]

He was having a fun time blast also.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yo, that was a great one. And everyone's like, I guess we'll stand up.

[Dan Soder]

And also at rock shows, the. The white ladies that dance.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Because they get other people to go like, oh, we're all dancing. This is moving. You need people moving and grooving in the front section. Yeah. But it felt like there were a lot of executive. When Shane said that, when he was like, all these rich people up front.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's. It. It is.

[Dan Soder]

It's like. Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

So I heard something that Billy Joel did When he was on tour with the gay.

[Dan Soder]

I've heard the story.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Where he was like, no, no, go get the.

[Ari Shaffir]

So they. They don't sell the first two rows.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

And they're like, we. We need the first two rows to be lively.

[Dan Soder]

Sure.

[Ari Shaffir]

So go get the back row. Choose, people. Bring them up.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Ari Shaffir]

Let the. And then now it's like, I'm. I was already gonna have a good time.

[Dan Soder]

Could you imagine if they would have done that with this roast? That's what I said to Katie.

[Ari Shaffir]

Should have done that.

[Dan Soder]

Why don't they have four rows, right. Of just seats for the cameras ahead

[Ari Shaffir]

of the camera, so they can't even see it. Just seats.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Just. Just. It's like almost like a club. Just a monitor so that they can hear the laughs. Because that was the worst part is when they do jokes and you're like, I don't know if they knew that that was funny, because it feels like the audience.

[Ari Shaffir]

We could hear very well. We could.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

That part was great. I mean, I don't know, man. I had a blast. So. So it was. It was. It was me, Tom, Eric, Tom's wife, Eric's chicken. Me and my chick Lewis, guest of Ari, Shabir. And then one last seat for our friend. Our friend Molly.

[Dan Soder]

That's fun.

[Ari Shaffir]

And then.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, my God. So you're probably hugging people, dude.

[Ari Shaffir]

We were having a blast.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. And this was there a moment of, like, being very proud of Jay, where you were, like, so much. And Shane.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yes.

[Dan Soder]

Tony. And Tony and Pete. And you go, look at all these guys doing it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, they're doing it. I mean, even just seeing Jay up there, I went and shook, like, slept high five beforehand. I could see him like this. I was like. I was like.

[Dan Soder]

He was great. He was great. He's great. And I was.

[Ari Shaffir]

I kept looking at Shane shape. We kept looking at Jay. We're doing these or like.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, the three, four Life.

[Ari Shaffir]

And he would do it on camera. Shane would look out. I could see him look at me. And I was like.

[Dan Soder]

So that would be funny. What's funny is there were moments where we were watching. Like, during the rock thing, we were just, like, watching Shane stare down. And we were like. But then I knew Tommy and Chris and all them were at a table.

[Ari Shaffir]

They were there, too. They were. So I was here. They were like, there.

[Dan Soder]

That's what we were wondering. We were wondering if he was. If they were in Shane's eyeline because he would do something.

[Ari Shaffir]

He was looking out. Shane was so smooth and having a good Time that when he started riffing at the end, Cheryl was the only one that really rift. You could see the monitor if you looked and she was like talking. She's like, yeah, I'm gonna do my own thing. Speak from the heart.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Eating. And came back out and did great.

[Ari Shaffir]

Having a blast talk. And it was like he was so smooth with it. I would have been sweating and like I couldn't. I wouldn't be able to see anybody.

[Dan Soder]

From the first thing I noticed that he broke, which really made me laugh, was when Tom Brady thing. And then he came back and goes, well, that was fucking annoying.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

I was like, oh, he didn't pre write that. He didn't pre write that. He was just a comic in the moment, feeling it. Yeah. And he's like, was it fucking crazy? Like his genuine reaction, like if you

[Ari Shaffir]

went on stage at. At the stand and tried a character that didn't go anywhere, I would. And you wouldn't fault me for going, hey, Dan, remember when you thought that would work?

[Dan Soder]

Yes. You know, that's the whole point of a roast. And you go, well, that sucks.

[Ari Shaffir]

Exactly. And it's a roast.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah. I thought it was great. I thought it was very long. But I think like in the age of modern celebrities that they're gonna edit everything out if they don't like a thing that was said. You're like, great.

[Ari Shaffir]

I would say you should be able to edit, but only if what I said didn't work. Let's take that down a little bit.

[Dan Soder]

Not.

[Ari Shaffir]

I don't get any on what other people say to me.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, yeah. You should be able to control your own.

[Ari Shaffir]

So funny. Chelsea had these jokes written in about how tonally is problem. And Shane is problematic. After Chad brings her up, she hangs out with Epstein.

[Dan Soder]

That was the best.

[Ari Shaffir]

Tony, you don't like Jews. He goes, I was never even accused about liking Jews.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. I've never seen a better intro on a roast. Way to cut your legs out, flat out. Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Facts. And I love Chelsea. It was just a funny. It was just a funny way to do it.

[Dan Soder]

What the are you drinking, mate? What is that? It looks like he's drinking leaves.

[Ari Shaffir]

Weed? Yeah. Is it weed? It's Argentinian.

[Dan Soder]

Is it? What is it?

[Ari Shaffir]

It's just ground up. It's just everywhere from. From Southern South.

[Dan Soder]

Hold on. Can I show the camera? I don't know if the camera can see this, but it's like. It looks like. Yeah, I don't know. Oh, here we go.

[Ari Shaffir]

Mananita. It's a decent brand. Manita.

[Dan Soder]

What is it, like a coffee?

[Ari Shaffir]

No, it's tea. Everyone in south eastern Chile to all of Argentina, Uruguay, and then southern Brazil and then in Paraguay, they drink it cold. Animals cold.

[Dan Soder]

So that's hot water. It's.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's hot. Ish. It's not boiling.

[Dan Soder]

And you put it in this and it makes it like a tea.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Did you get into this before this last adventure?

[Ari Shaffir]

No, this adventure is what I get into it.

[Dan Soder]

This adventure?

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah. Is that the part about driving a camper van on shitty, shitty roads in Patagonia with winds so high that when you pass somebody, like, I might get taken into them, you would pee and spray everywhere if you got out to pee. And I needed some energy, so I was driving and I was like, cut me, cut me and just keep the

[Dan Soder]

stuff you were doing. Was that easier to find than like coffee

[Ari Shaffir]

in Argentina or. It's everywhere, so everywhere. So at every airport, if you're at an airport, they'll have a water fountain and a yerba fountain where you can get the.

[Dan Soder]

Right underneath. Is that.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's a brand. There's like 10 brands.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's a decent brand. Today's episode is brought to you by many Anita.

[Dan Soder]

Guys, I'd be sick of that.

[Ari Shaffir]

When you're looking for the great.

[Dan Soder]

I would love some smoothie. You know what I would love? A sponsor of a language I didn't speak, Thinking I had no clue. It's cultural relevance. I just think that's like, that's always something I've always.

[Ari Shaffir]

That's little Morning. What's mananita? Manana.

[Dan Soder]

I don't Maybe look it up. Yeah, but that thing about you're like a. This is the kind of friend everyone should have that tries crazy that maybe you don't want to try. But sometimes. Occasionally it is some you want to try and you go, this isn't one of them.

[Ari Shaffir]

Okay.

[Dan Soder]

Drinking mulch.

[Ari Shaffir]

I'm honest enough to tell you, like, hey, I tried it. Like, don't do that. Or like, dude, you should sure like guinea pig. I'm like, o' Neill came to visit and I'm like, bro, it's not a. It's not a funny thing to eat. It's delicious.

[Dan Soder]

So I had a teacher in high school that was from Peru, and she was like, we love guinea pig. We guinea pig all the time. It's not like, can you believe what we're doing? But we were like white kids in Colorado. And I think it was like high school or middle school. We were like, oh, you Eat fucking guinea pig. And then my friend who was very smart was like, oh, no, it's a delicacy there. They, like, love it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, you can't even afford it always, because it's like graduation. But also, a whole One is, like, 30 bucks. Did you and try it. It's earthy.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, this.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's earthy.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, I'll try this. I was like, I ain't trying to

[Ari Shaffir]

suck it all down.

[Dan Soder]

I go. I like anything.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's earthy. So it takes some getting used to.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. I. I don't. I don't. I don't.

[Ari Shaffir]

I don't hate it.

[Dan Soder]

I thought I was gonna hate it. Yeah, it is. It's very. Tea. It's very like, if your bag of tea busted open.

[Ari Shaffir]

So some people with sugar in there, other people put one mint leaf and buried in there. Or a little slice of lemon to give some taste.

[Dan Soder]

What was the shit you were drinking? Remember when we were doing sixth and jump and you got drunk and you got drunk with those construction workers, and they gave you, like, a bucket of something? Do you remember that? This was in Central America.

[Ari Shaffir]

And you were like, I think.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. You were like. He, like, showed up first off, when we were doing sixth and jump during the pandemic, we're all on Zoom. Jay and I are in Zoom in New York.

[Ari Shaffir]

What a good time. But I love them.

[Dan Soder]

I.

[Ari Shaffir]

That's what. Worth it.

[Dan Soder]

We're. Oh, yeah. Oh, for Covid.

[Ari Shaffir]

For. I didn't want to go.

[Dan Soder]

Whatever.

[Ari Shaffir]

Your mom.

[Dan Soder]

Your mom and P. Are gone. Who Forgotten.

[Ari Shaffir]

But those memories are real.

[Dan Soder]

But I remember you showing up, like, at first, it's Ari's apartment, and then you guys went to Central America in South America, and all of a sudden it was just a jungle as you're setting while everyone was changing their settings to look like jungles.

[Ari Shaffir]

Let me put some looks in that I might have wanted to read.

[Dan Soder]

Or they're doing a fake one of, like, look at me. I'm in the tropics, straight up. Ari was just on a porch with the jungle behind him, and we were like, oh, that's real, dude.

[Ari Shaffir]

I had such few joys. And one of them was like, I'm about to log on. Let me make this look as ridiculous as possible.

[Dan Soder]

And you would, like, walk through coconut with a straw. Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Oh, what's going on?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. And they're like, which, by the way, I think I'm telling you this live on my podcast, but Jay and I agreed for Skank Fest this year, we're doing six and jump.

[Ari Shaffir]

Again, I should do it too.

[Dan Soder]

We're gonna watch Johnny Depp's last episode.

[Ari Shaffir]

That's great.

[Dan Soder]

I think we'll do Depth's last episode,

[Ari Shaffir]

and we should do that.

[Dan Soder]

When he left the show, he left, like, the final Johnny Depp episode.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's the best thing. I was king. Because you could just do some of the stuff. Yeah, I'm in.

[Dan Soder]

And then how we did it, because we did the movie. Watch along at Netflix as a joke. And I tried to explain to him how we did sixth and Jump was perfect with the monitors in front. The venue just couldn't do it. But we. There was a lag between the movie and the monitors at. At. Netflix is a joke, so.

[Ari Shaffir]

But a million dollars a second not to get the sound right. Not enough.

[Dan Soder]

I mean, we had a bunch of problems. They didn't download it. Remember how, dude, before. That's why when DeRosa said that. And you'll hear this, by the way. We're gonna. I think we're gonna release the Made in Manhattan watch along with Tim Dillon, Joe DeRoza and James McCann on Punch Up Live. We did a thing where we were like, we'll download it. And they're like, it's Netflix. We'll just stream Netflix. And then in the middle of it, it crashed. And the WI fi. And you're like, dude, this is why we told you I was Rogan when

[Ari Shaffir]

he did the Live. Thing is, dude, I watched it live. He goes, how was it live? Like, I mean, it lagged a bunch. It kept flipping off. Yeah, the jokes are great, but, like, it kept lagging. It was. It was not a pleasurable experience to

[Dan Soder]

watch, but it was something that we anticipated. And we were like, hey, we should download the movie. Which we did on sixth and Jump.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And it worked fantastic. We could go back. We could go forward. We were. That was when cbok was illiterate. We found out what a great time. We should have put that out on something.

[Ari Shaffir]

Piedmont.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, dude, in the Piedmont, there is no career day.

[Ari Shaffir]

You should find all those and just put them up on your punch up.

[Dan Soder]

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[Ari Shaffir]

It was great.

[Dan Soder]

It was showful.

[Ari Shaffir]

It was. But it was a pandemic podcast where first it was locked down and we had nothing to do. It would have us come together and everyone got the third and fourth podcast and second, third. And then it became like, oh, we're

[Dan Soder]

back on the road.

[Ari Shaffir]

This is getting more difficult.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Really sad to have left it.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. But it was such a fun thing.

[Ari Shaffir]

Such a fun. It kept our sanity.

[Dan Soder]

It really honestly, like, I would get

[Ari Shaffir]

in studio apartment I rented on, like, whatever.

[Dan Soder]

That was the first time we saw each other in a long time. And we got to hang out. People forget the good parts of COVID which was like seeing your friends again and you realize you missed seeing your

[Ari Shaffir]

friends, that he's like, I'm trying to figure out how to get this done. I don't know, let's put a camera behind the.

[Dan Soder]

But it was fun. There's things about humanity that, like, technology takes away that you're like, no, dude. There was fun about seeing each other again. About like. That's what I didn't like about the festival. It didn't have the festival.

[Ari Shaffir]

No hangout. Except the store was de facto one. But that was booze, so it's not as pleasurable.

[Dan Soder]

But also, the store was fun.

[Ari Shaffir]

It was too packed.

[Dan Soder]

It was too packed. It was overwhelming. I couldn't have a conversation with somebody without someone else being like, yo, can I just break in? You're like, yeah, I mean, we should have Norman.

[Ari Shaffir]

And he was like, freaking out.

[Dan Soder]

I was like, I know it's a

[Ari Shaffir]

lot because that was where I my home was. I started there. I know, I know, I know. Crevices. Come with me.

[Dan Soder]

By the way, shout out Rose, because she immediately was like, oh, smoke a joint. The back. There's no one back there right now. You guys go back there. And I went back there with like, three people, we hung out.

[Ari Shaffir]

Rose was a waitress at first, so she also knows where every vibe.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. She was like, get over here. This shit's going on. At one point she was like, just go around here. Because I was like, I want to smoke a joint. And she was like, you're fine. Yeah, it was fun. I had more and more. I go back, I understand the store in a way that I don't think I did when I was just here in New York.

[Ari Shaffir]

Oh. You probably looked at it as this place. It was our clubhouse.

[Dan Soder]

I mean, what I think, like, more and more I go back, I see that especially because, like, I remember early on when you were still. You were living here, but you'd go back to la if I was in LA and you were there. Yeah, I'd be like, I'll go to the store because Ari can show me around.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

But now the more I've gone, I've been like, oh, I see where people hang. Kind of how the. How it moves.

[Ari Shaffir]

So Rogan tried to recreate. He was like, where the hangout spots gonna be? Like, where might you all just end up gathering? One is in the store, is the back hallway.

[Dan Soder]

That's it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Door guys. My old job was to go to massive celebrities. Because, guys, I'm so sorry.

[Dan Soder]

It's bleeding.

[Ari Shaffir]

You gotta. You gotta leave the hallway.

[Dan Soder]

Was there any that you remember being a prick about it? About being like. You being like a door guy and being like, hey, dude, I'm sorry. Because when they do that, a lot of times you're. You're in the middle of having fun. You're, like, interrupting having fun. We're, like, joking around and. And people are like, luckily they were

[Ari Shaffir]

comedian celebrities, and so they would get them like, guys, you're up the show. Do you mind? I gotta get you outside or in or out? In or out? Well, one, a couple times where I was the door guy one time, probably two times. Once I was working the booth at the Comedy Store, and the time Duncan had left, he was a talent coordinator. So I was the assistant talent coordinator. So if somebody wanted something, it fell to me just for two weeks.

[Dan Soder]

What a shitty spot to be in as a comic.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

So you're dealing with people's egos.

[Ari Shaffir]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

But also, like, you had to work hr. You had to work HR for two weeks.

[Ari Shaffir]

But not really. It was just Mitzi doing it. We're just writing it down and delivering the message.

[Dan Soder]

Sure.

[Ari Shaffir]

There was no, like, hook me up. Like, we can't. She's still involved so anyway, this black homeless guy came through the back door of the main room towards me. And the, the back door guy points at him like, get him out. Some guy in a, in sweatpants and a sweatshirt. And I was like, okay, how do I do this? Because I'm 140 pounds. I'm not a good door guy, but I know not to up the show. I'm like, let him get out first, then close it behind him.

[Dan Soder]

It's like trapping a bug. Yeah, you go, well, how are we gonna get this bug out of this

[Ari Shaffir]

if it's going on his own?

[Dan Soder]

Let him go. Just go. Then shut the window. Shut the window.

[Ari Shaffir]

So, so he comes out and I put the thing behind me and I can help you. And he turns and it's Chris Rock. It's not some black eye, it's Chris Rock. And he goes, can I go on next? And I may not have my fists ready to fight. And I have to do tooth. I'm like, one, oh, there's no fight. And, and two, there's an actual super high level comedian asking me for he needs information. And I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, well, people usually go on in the original room, not the main room. And he goes, yeah, but I looked the lineup. There's like four comics left in the original room. And this is the last comic in the main room. And it's better not to bump anybody, right?

[Dan Soder]

And I was like, that's nice to hear. Yeah, that is nice to hear.

[Ari Shaffir]

My first, I'd never seen him before the first time he came in.

[Dan Soder]

That's crazy.

[Ari Shaffir]

And I was like, yeah, by the way, did about 55 minutes or so till 1:55. And he goes, ah, well, I know the waitresses get off of two, so I don't want to keep them.

[Dan Soder]

Great.

[Ari Shaffir]

So that's it for me, man.

[Dan Soder]

I'll tell you right now. And I, this goes about any job. This is not just stand up. It's not just entertainment. When people understand what other people do at a job, it makes them such a better co worker. Where you go, yeah, you're being a dick. Even if you rise up and become a vice president, if you go, well, I know the guy at the parking garage gets off at 8. I don't want to stay past 8 because then this parking garage guy's got to wait. It was like when I was a waiter and I was waiting on a table and it was late and it was like the dinner and people would

[Ari Shaffir]

look around and go, oh, bring us a check now. We'll get out Here.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, yeah. Versus on my birthday one year, I was working a Thursday night, and this couple had a romantic dinner where they were talking to each other about how cute it was they shut down the restaurant. And you go, well, it's not cute. I turn on the lights, and my manager got mad at me because he was like, no, you got to keep the lights low. It's like, it's two hours past our closing, and I've pulled everything from their table. All they have is water glasses.

[Ari Shaffir]

In the movie's like, it's so cute. We shut it down. You sing behind the Things. I'm like, come on.

[Dan Soder]

I literally would come back like this. I would come back from smoking a cigarette.

[Ari Shaffir]

Can you move?

[Dan Soder]

And I look at the buster and I go, francisco, they still there? And he's like, see? And you're like. I'm like, in the kitchen, like, I want to go get drunk. I want to go get drunk with my. It's my birthday too. So it's like, you know when you're. When you're poor and it's your birthday and you work at a job, like a waiting. You're like, people are gonna buy me drinks. This is the one time a year where I'm gonna have a free bar tab. Please let me go. And they're like, I could stare into your eyes, but I like, what big comics do that? Ray Romano does that. Comes into the Cellar, and he goes, who's up? And you're like, daddy goes, all right, I'll go up next. And you're like, thanks, Ray.

[Ari Shaffir]

And like, I remember, start doing impressions.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. When did you become a voice guy? I remember one time, Louie, I was. This is before he got in trouble. This is when he was like, King. I was sitting on the stairs and he came in, and he didn't really talk to lower level comics, but he came in and he. I was sitting on the stairs, and they're like, well, Dan Soder's next. And he looked at me and he goes, is it cool if I go up and do, like, 10 or 15? And you go, you're. I've done it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Thank you for asking. Absolutely. Yes.

[Dan Soder]

That's exactly what I said. I go, you could have done that. You didn't need to ask.

[Ari Shaffir]

Ask.

[Dan Soder]

It's also fun.

[Ari Shaffir]

Also. You do need to ask. It's just so few people have that. You're like, you technically don't have to.

[Dan Soder]

We know. We understand. You don't have to.

[Ari Shaffir]

But, like, you do need to as a human. You do. Just none of them Do. So it becomes surprising when they come

[Dan Soder]

in and they're like. That's why, like, what broke my heart about Chappelle one night was he was there and Michelle Wolf and I were, like, getting bumped. And he, like, knows Michelle. He's, like, friends with her. And I'm on there, and he was just like, I was upstairs, and someone from the club was like, dave, are you gonna go up? And he goes, I don't really know if I want to. You know what? I'll go up. And now you just bumped. Now you see that guy?

[Ari Shaffir]

Like, don't ask him.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, that. That's exactly. I won't tell you which manager it was, but I went up and I went, what the. Now I don't get to go up? And they were like, oh, you know. And you're like, I get it.

[Ari Shaffir]

I mean, I get it, but also, like.

[Dan Soder]

But being a good co worker, I think that art is lost. Like, the. The. The. Like the art of, like, being empathetic towards a guy you work with.

[Ari Shaffir]

I send all my managers and assistants and agents and assistants. I'll. I get high and get ideas. So I'm sending it, but now I go, oh, let me schedule. Send this for Monday morning.

[Dan Soder]

Sure.

[Ari Shaffir]

And not for Friday night. Dude, this is when I have the idea. But you don't have to be. Or I'll go, guys, this is definitely after the weekend thing. If it's Friday day, I'm like, this is definitely for next week. This is not urgent. Yeah, but my idea is here right now, and I will forget.

[Dan Soder]

That's great. And that's like. There really is, like, this thing of. You know, my manager lives in la, so there's mornings where I wake up, it's nine in the morning here, and I'm up, and I'm like, hey, fucking. I'm about to type it. I'm like, it's six in the morning there.

[Ari Shaffir]

Schedule send.

[Dan Soder]

It just. Yes, schedule send is giant.

[Ari Shaffir]

The other major time I was, there was a homeless guy that came in, like, a white homeless guy. And I was like, no, no. And I'm walking down the hallway, but then as I get up there, I noticed he's talking to Dice. So I'm like, okay, now he's bugging Dice. But also he's got a mink coat on. And I'm like, no. And then. And I'm like. And Eleanor was like, rick Rubin. I was like, nope. Kept walking by.

[Dan Soder]

That's crazy that you're like, no, no, no, no.

[Ari Shaffir]

Absolutely not.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, it's one of the greatest producers of all time. That is the thing about la.

[Ari Shaffir]

That is save your look like a mag, Rick.

[Dan Soder]

That is the difference between LA and New York City, though, with that look is New York City straight up will be a homeless guy. Yeah. It will not be Rick Rubin or Chris Rock. You get a guy, you go, oh, he's covered in and he's inside. The crazy thing about being a door guy is the fact that you're a comic. That has to be a bouncer. It's the only club I know where they make. It's the best.

[Ari Shaffir]

Because the. The comics respect the door guys. Because half of them used to be that. Yeah, like, legitimately wore this same T shirt.

[Dan Soder]

The way you talk about it, the way you. Tony talks about it, the way anybody

[Ari Shaffir]

that came up, Bobby Lee was. And then if. If you weren't your friend was sure. And so. Or you saw one go from nobody to a theater comic. And so you're like, these guys? Yeah, they're comics.

[Dan Soder]

This guy might be one of the door guys at the store came up to me when we were hanging out at the festival and he. He's like, I do a danger field. And he was like, hey, hey. And I was like, oh, it's not bad. And I tried doing it. I was like, all right, that was enough. And it was back. And then later, I'm walking through and he stops me. He goes, I have so much anxiety that I did that for you. And I was like, no, no, that's great. I would have done it too. It's fine. A regular dog.

[Ari Shaffir]

I wouldn't have done the second part.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, just the first. But a comic is like, oh, fuck, what did I do?

[Ari Shaffir]

But I loved.

[Dan Soder]

Because I.

[Ari Shaffir]

Because they are comics, but they're also new comics, bro.

[Dan Soder]

But that's something that I used to feel. I wasn't a door guy in New York. You're not a door guy. You're just doing that shit.

[Ari Shaffir]

Guys.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

I don't have to interact with the comics.

[Dan Soder]

That's the whole point is, like, I would be at the. I'd be at like, New York Comedy Club or the Seller, and I would say something and you'd be like, what? And then I wasn't there to go, I fucked up. I fucked. So I just walk around the fucking village being like, I fucked up. I up.

[Ari Shaffir]

There was no time. Like the beginning times. Ralphie told me that early on, like about a year. And he goes, oh, that's when it's just fun. I didn't get it because I was Starving. Sure. But, like, that's a big.

[Dan Soder]

That's a big. Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

I was like, today I had to eat legitimately leftover hamburgers from McDonald's that I froze because that your.

[Dan Soder]

Was that the.

[Ari Shaffir]

Your 29 cent cheeseburger, 39 cent hamburger, Vice versa. Sundays and Wednesdays. So it was like you'd load up, freeze a bunch of those, then the rest of the week you could.

[Dan Soder]

I was a Subway chicken teriyaki on Italian herbs and cheeses. Six inches at dinner. The next day, six inches for lunch, split my bag of potato chips, and

[Ari Shaffir]

I'd get the bag of potatoes, and

[Dan Soder]

I'd get a large drink that I could drink half and have other. It was all about halves. And then staff meal at the restaurant.

[Ari Shaffir]

I gotta get you a yarmulke.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, dude, I've earned it. I thank you.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah. You know, I didn't realize you've actually put in your time.

[Dan Soder]

I really. That means a lot.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And it does mean a lot. As someone that grew up watching Mel Brooks movies and had his alcoholic father using Yiddish. I'm a clump. I'm a little. I'm a little verklempt.

[Ari Shaffir]

And honestly, proper usage.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. What's funny is I didn't realize because Colorado. I knew one Jewish. I knew two Jewish kids. Yeah. And then I moved to New York and I would say stuff, and they'd be like, you're using Yiddish. And you're like, oh, I didn't even realize. I was a. I was a jigga. What do you call a white kid? White kid that wants to be. I was a.

[Ari Shaffir]

What do you want to ask me about my trip? I know you were about to.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, no, you're just. You're just the guy that I go like, what did you eat?

[Ari Shaffir]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Because, like, could you imagine Big J and I on a trip like yours being like, I don't want to eat that?

[Ari Shaffir]

I was in Ecuador and I heard for the first time. Six months there, for the first time, I heard an American accent. And what's that like, okay, first it was like, oh, you were gone for what, seven months? Six months, that one?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Just in Ecuador, car driving around. Bandit. And then I heard an accent, but then I was like, wait, that's not American accent. That is rural Philadelphia accent. Yay.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. You heard that?

[Ari Shaffir]

The first accent I heard. And they were at the. You can get one of those gazebo things at the beach. Sure. For five bucks for the day.

[Dan Soder]

Great.

[Ari Shaffir]

Rent a surfboard for $3 or. Or five or six for two hours. It was like, oh, my God, it was the best. And I. And then eventually I'm like, hey, what do you guys. Yay. And they were like. Once we started talking, they're like, oh, there's a chicken piccata over there. That's so good.

[Dan Soder]

That's so.

[Ari Shaffir]

And I was like, I'm not even a chicken piccata. In Ecuador. There's actually good food here they go.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, we actually talked them into doing it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Two of them ran a DQ in Wildwood.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. You ever. Yeah. You ever had guinea pig?

[Ari Shaffir]

Those guys ruled so much.

[Dan Soder]

You ever had a guinea pig and guinea pig hoagie. Don't put that on. Don't make a hoagie at a guinea pig.

[Ari Shaffir]

I met one of them again once at a show recently that came, and I was like. Like, they were like, there's some people saying they met you in Ecuador. I'm like, oh, bring those guys.

[Dan Soder]

That's awesome. Yeah, that's fun. That's funny to see you. And you're. You're like Tarzan back in society.

[Ari Shaffir]

Two weeks when you meet someone from traveling afterwards, it just becomes like. Like, the people from Lost when they met in real life after, like, we gotta go back. Yeah, we gotta get back to the island.

[Dan Soder]

It's like summer camp friends. When you had summer camp friends when you were young, and then you'd see them back home in reality, you go, well, I got my regular friends there.

[Ari Shaffir]

Is that you and Jay would eat and list and stuff like that. But I would tell you, like, you can try this one or this one's too spicy. Don't. This one is what? Because I'll try everything.

[Dan Soder]

That's the cooking show.

[Ari Shaffir]

Try food. The food is amazing. The best food in South America.

[Dan Soder]

That's the cooking show trip to South America with me, List and Jay.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And you are our Bobby Flay.

[Ari Shaffir]

And it's like, all right, tell me what you can and can't do.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Because if it's like, I really do

[Ari Shaffir]

not want to risk stomach flu. And I'm like, I'm going to cross half these off the list, then. I don't like spicy. I'm like, great, we'll stay in Uruguay.

[Dan Soder]

What happened to two questions? What happens when it goes sideways? Like, what happens when it's too spicy? Did you eat something where you're like, I'm not.

[Ari Shaffir]

My dad was. My dad raised me on spice.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, he did? Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

I'm the guy who goes to Thai. And they're like, thai spice. Like, I don't know. I'm like, I know, I know. Just get it, really.

[Dan Soder]

So you've been a spicy guy your whole life.

[Ari Shaffir]

I would have to get my Asian roommate at Maryland to ask for extra spicy on the phone because they wouldn't believe my accent. So I'm like, you need to ask for it extra spicy.

[Dan Soder]

Do you find it that it's so hot? It's enjoyable that you're that kind of guy. My mom's boyfriend was like that. He was like, I want it like the. Whatever. What?

[Ari Shaffir]

The scale is where pleasure meets pain.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Ari Shaffir]

What is that? Hellraiser?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, but like the.

[Ari Shaffir]

The scale of the Scoville.

[Dan Soder]

Scovilles or whatever. Roy Scovilles. They improv how hot it is, and you enjoy it the whole time. But he was like. There used to be this, like, hot stock hot sauce store in Boulder, and we would, like, go up to Boulder. My mom's boyfriend would be like, like, proud of being like, what's the hottest one you got? And it'd be like a Carolina reaper Pepper. Reaper pepper. And he'd be like, yeah, it's spicy. But he wouldn't freak out. I was a reaper with spice, dude.

[Ari Shaffir]

My dad will do that. He made this own, you know, like, not the Sriracha, but the other brand where it's got all the seeds in it and stuff. Sure. Red and thick. So he made that in his own. And he'd have to ferment it and let it go. I remember him. And it was me. For me, even then, it would take, let's say, salami sandwich on rye. And I would take a. Like, a little bit, spread it very thin all over, like, one spoonful all the way. And I'd still be like, oh, and put ketchup on top of it. Like, oh, my God. It'd be my dad to test it would take a spoon, go and go, oh, yeah, that's good.

[Dan Soder]

Whoa.

[Ari Shaffir]

But it's like, no, it's spicy.

[Dan Soder]

Did your siblings have a similar love? Was there any sibling that didn't like spice?

[Ari Shaffir]

My brother's kid loves it real.

[Dan Soder]

But your brother didn't.

[Ari Shaffir]

My brother likes it.

[Dan Soder]

Okay, but your brother's kids like you. He's like an animal. He's like, I want fucking.

[Ari Shaffir]

And I'm not trying to punish myself.

[Dan Soder]

I guess my question is, is someone that is a. About it? Like, I. I have children. I have, like, I'll put sriracha on stuff, and it's. It's. I find it enjoyable. But that's me older. When I was younger, I hated spice. I was like, this is too spicy. I need mild. I was a. And as I got older, I was

[Ari Shaffir]

like, I feel the same way about chlamydia. Just got to get used to it.

[Dan Soder]

He goes, oh, it makes you. Really makes your dickhole pump. Really gives you the dickhole heat you're looking for. But, like, with the spice thing, has there ever been something that's too much for you when you travel?

[Ari Shaffir]

Thai, Thai, spicy in Thailand, but down there.

[Dan Soder]

And did you have to request it? Did you have to go like, pick the fight and be like, give me your spicy? Or they're like, they just gave it to you. And you're like, oh, they just gave it to you.

[Ari Shaffir]

They'll warn you once in a while if you're in a semi tourist area and they see you being white. Like, oh, we've gotten complaints before from your type.

[Dan Soder]

That's so great.

[Ari Shaffir]

Glad you said that. I'm still fine.

[Dan Soder]

That's always like, the. The white thing is, is do you just know, like, if they know white, they go, they're gonna complain about the spice.

[Ari Shaffir]

They don't know to. To warn them.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, because they just go, this is where you. It's like the amount of ranch you get in Nebraska where you just go. Like, I bet they see, like, other people and they go like, Europeans, they go, you don't want this much ranch. That stuff.

[Ari Shaffir]

In Chicago, I was eating a salad. Me and Rogan is salad somewhere in Chicago.

[Dan Soder]

And we're like.

[Ari Shaffir]

So I'm like, hold on. I'm like, excuse me.

[Dan Soder]

Did you.

[Ari Shaffir]

Did you put sugar on this? And she goes, is it too much for you? I'm like, it was such a. Like, yeah, of course. Was crazy. Did I go ham crazy? But I go too much when I None on a salad.

[Dan Soder]

When I quit sugar and drinks, when I, like, had to make that effort to get it out of my coffee and get it out of my iced tea. Once I had southern sweet tea again. I was like, what the fuck? That's like Thai spice but for sugar. You're like, dude, this is fucking crazy. This is just sugar. And they're like sweet tea. And you're like, I don't like this. I'm getting diabetes right now. But it does rule if you can like it. Like, I can, like, really sweet, very hot. I'm still a. You know what people don't talk about in the summer because it's all hot is bedding. It's only a winter talk. Everyone's like, oh, I got good bedding in the winter. Nah, dude, you need to Sleep good in the summer too. A nice cool crisp sheet when you hit the bed. Oh, then you get some good summer sleep. Especially if you're like out all day in the sun and you're worn out. Get that nice crisp sheet, grab some good, good sleep. Try Brooklyn Bedding. Brooklyn Bedding designs and assembles every mattress in their Arizona factory. So there's no metalman, no middleman, no gimmicks, just top tier quality, honest pricing and real American craftsmanship for better night's sleep if you sleep hot. Brooklyn Bedding uses Glaciotex covers, copper infused foams and temperature regulating materials to help keep you cool and comfortable all night long. Plus, Brooklyn Bedding also offers a 120 night comfort trial if you love it or they'll help you return and swap it hassle free. Go to BrooklynBedding.com and use my promo code SODER at checkout. Get 30% off site wide. This is not available to Everybody else. That's BrooklynBetting.com using the promo code SODER for 30 off site wide. Support our show and let them know we sent you after the checkout. Again, BrooklynBedding.com promo code SODER. I know those of you who have been listening for a while, even back when I was on the bonfire, you know I got Lasik. So you know, I got these laser eyes but they wear off. And honestly, when I come back to my glasses days, I'm going right back to Warby Parker. It's who I used when I had glasses and it's who I'll use when I return to glasses. Warby Parker One stop shop. You go in, you can get an appointment with an optometrist in the back to take a look at your eyes to see you know, how good your vision is doing. They'll do the appointment right in house and then they have your prescription. You can go pick glasses out in the front. So then you have glasses you love with the prescription you need. Bam. It's all right there. And when it comes to quality for the price, Warby Parker is the best. Not even close. It used to have to be, oh, I'm gonna spend a bunch of money on these glasses. I hope they stay forever. Warby Parker. You get two pairs of glasses if you're irresponsible like me and you'll lose them all the time. Warby Parker comes completely. Warby Parker completely change that. The prescription glasses start at just $95 so you actually get quality and stylish frames at an affordable price all in one place. Like I said before, which makes everything so much easier. And it also includes contacts, online, eye exams, and sunglasses. Maybe the best part of Warby Parker, for every pair they sell, they also give one to someone in need. Warby Parker has distributed over 20 million pairs of glasses to people in need through its Buy a pair, give a pair program. Right now, buy one pair of glasses and get 20 off on any additional [e-mail] Sodor that's 20 off any additional pairs when you purchase at W A r b y parker.com Sodor Second thing, when you get food poisoning on the

[Ari Shaffir]

road like that, and you do, and you will, and you go into it knowing that you will.

[Dan Soder]

Is that the way you accept it when you try?

[Ari Shaffir]

I've gotten enough times by now. There's just no avoiding it. My. My o' Neill's chick was like, got it. And we all ate the same stuff and share with each other. Like, it might be a bounce of something in a shower. Like a bounce off a shoulder. You always think you know what it is. And then it could be anything.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, dude. Could be.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's literally a drop of water. So you can wash stuff in the sink. You just have to dry it completely off before you have it. So if a plate comes wet, you gotta, like, no. And just like, I'd rather be. Bobby Kelly said it the best. It's safer. It's more dangerous there to brush your teeth with the sink water than it is here to brush your teeth with toilet water.

[Dan Soder]

Really?

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

As long as it's flushed, that's. It's just gross. You don't even think about that. And you go, like, I'm still in

[Ari Shaffir]

the mode of, like, I sink, water, brush teeth. We got it great here.

[Dan Soder]

Shoveling it in. But like, when you have. When you're, like, going and knowing you have.

[Ari Shaffir]

I saw Fast and Furious five when I was there in Rio.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

And there's a scene where she's, like, in the favela, and they're on the. They're hiding away, and she goes like this with water that she drinks some. I'm like, nope. Rest of the movie is her. Rest of the movie is her now.

[Dan Soder]

Hey, I heard you drink that water. She's on the other side of a door and she's like, dom, you gotta get out of here. They're gonna get me. But do you have, like.

[Ari Shaffir]

No, there's. There's a tri pack. That's what I'm taking immediately. I. Now my technique is good.

[Dan Soder]

That's what I mean.

[Ari Shaffir]

Like don't wait.

[Dan Soder]

You don't wait.

[Ari Shaffir]

Can't hold it down. You're fucked.

[Dan Soder]

You know when they show assassins assemble a rifle in ways I just assume you do that with diarrhea. When you're traveling where it's like, can you put something together? And you take this. Now go over there.

[Ari Shaffir]

There's a. There's a small difference in feeling between food poisoning and just diarrhea.

[Dan Soder]

Do you know what it is?

[Ari Shaffir]

Make the decision right away, which one is this? Because it's gonna get worse. But right now it's about the same. It's like this. And then you know it's gonna go there. Because if it's gonna be the diary shitting and pooping, you're not gonna be able to keep the pill down.

[Dan Soder]

Done.

[Ari Shaffir]

No, you got to keep it down for two hours. And if you have a sip of water will make you barf, then you can't get the pill down.

[Dan Soder]

So what's your advice?

[Ari Shaffir]

Pre. Do it. If you think it. It might be or probably is, get that pill down now.

[Dan Soder]

Start working.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's one a day for three days. You're still gonna suffer, but start the process.

[Dan Soder]

What pill? Amodia May D. Is that such white guy stuff?

[Ari Shaffir]

Is that like me going like, bro,

[Dan Soder]

that's like me going like, I like Tabasco. We were talking about spice.

[Ari Shaffir]

Amodia day is a pocket Palestinian throwing rock at an IDF troop and thinking it'll make a difference. Ammonia made. They really.

[Dan Soder]

Because I always. When I went to Mexico, when I

[Ari Shaffir]

went to Mexico, when I was in Arizona, minutes.

[Dan Soder]

When I went to Mexico and there was. When I was at Arizona, I went to Mexico. I take Amodium ad, and I was fine.

[Ari Shaffir]

That's for basic diarrhea, sure. Not food poison.

[Dan Soder]

Okay, so diarrhea works.

[Ari Shaffir]

Diarrhea, sure. It works.

[Dan Soder]

And I want you, I want the people at home to know that Amodium AD does work for diarrhea.

[Ari Shaffir]

In Southeast Asia. I never didn't have diarrhea four and a half straight months, not constantly.

[Dan Soder]

When you got home and you pooped, Solid. Did it scare you? Like my organs are leaving me. Oh, right, right. Solid. Yeah, that's. Of course, I do feel like if you normalize diarrhea.

[Ari Shaffir]

Normalized diarrhea. That's a good. That's a T shirt.

[Dan Soder]

That's the name of the episode.

[Ari Shaffir]

Normalized diarrhea.

[Dan Soder]

Why aren't Americans normalizing diarrhea?

[Ari Shaffir]

I did bring a nice souvenir home from. From Carnival in Brazil. I got some late night street meat the last Day, which is like, they're closing. I'm like, damn. That means it's been. I want it. My last street meat. And I. I didn't a log for about three weeks after I got home way.

[Dan Soder]

Is it worth it?

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Because sometimes I'll do street meat and I'll go like, I really want it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

And then I'll hurt afterwards and I'll go, it was worth it.

[Ari Shaffir]

It was worth it.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Worth the pain find. That's worth it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Because you're like, I took a tumble.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's good.

[Dan Soder]

Life.

[Ari Shaffir]

Life thing.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, it is. That was the stand I used to get off when I worked at Kroc. I'd get done at 2 in the morning and I go on 6th Avenue. And there was one place and sometimes it would be. Sometimes it me up. But I always knew I was like, hey, we're gonna go into this. Sunday might suck.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

But this is gonna be a great meal. At 2:45 in the morning.

[Ari Shaffir]

It has to be worth it. You don't want it to be the delivery of McDonald's that made you leave before the encore of LCD sound system.

[Dan Soder]

First off, I up. This is a good place to us for us to remedy this situation. I need to apologize.

[Ari Shaffir]

I'm legitimately angry about it. I'm not mad mad, but it. But when I think of it, it doesn't go, oh, yeah, good times. It goes, no, that sucked.

[Dan Soder]

Can I tell you where I up?

[Ari Shaffir]

Okay.

[Dan Soder]

And why Me leaving wasn't the problem.

[Ari Shaffir]

Okay.

[Dan Soder]

Ari and I love LCD Sound system.

[Ari Shaffir]

We've had great times at them.

[Dan Soder]

Great times. Adam Bonnar, the first, Brooklyn Steel, the second. And then we're going back to Brooklyn Steel to see him again with good seats. I up. And we're. We're in our 40s and 50s. We need earplugs. We just do. If you're young, I will tell you the best advice for concerts. Get comfortable with earplugs. It makes your day the next day much better.

[Ari Shaffir]

At minimum, take a piece. If you don't have them, a piece of napkin to shove them in, just do it.

[Dan Soder]

Because you're gonna hit the age. Even if you're in your 20s now

[Ari Shaffir]

and you're like, drugs hit the same regardless.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, the drugs hit the same. You're all fine. And then the next day when you wake up, you don't have tinnitus. You don't have that. You're just like, oh, it's a great concert.

[Ari Shaffir]

So I had a post.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, good luck editing. At the time. I had Earplugs that were the ones you want.

[Ari Shaffir]

Swimmers.

[Dan Soder]

Yes. The ones you want are the. The orange ones made for concerts. Do you already keep that thing on you?

[Ari Shaffir]

Howard Light.

[Dan Soder]

There you go.

[Ari Shaffir]

The light. And by the way, little tip.

[Dan Soder]

Little, little.

[Ari Shaffir]

Small, small.

[Dan Soder]

Before you jam it in your.

[Ari Shaffir]

On your. Take the lens off before you jam it. If on the way into the airplane, if you are stopped in that line where like everyone's rushing to get in, then you stop and slowly.

[Dan Soder]

Right.

[Ari Shaffir]

That little room right before you enter the airplane. That's there.

[Dan Soder]

Sure.

[Ari Shaffir]

That's like the. The.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Okay. Sometimes they have a bag of them.

[Dan Soder]

Yo.

[Ari Shaffir]

And there's no one to protect you. Delta does all the time handful earplug.

[Dan Soder]

And those are really good for concerts.

[Ari Shaffir]

Really good.

[Dan Soder]

Really hear everything. So I up and I bought these, like ones off Amazon that were for swimmers. So they block water out of your ear. They also block a good time. Sound a good time. And Katie, Ari and I all had these in and I kept being like, taking it out and being like, I can't hear taking it out. And then we were there for the whole concert and I was like, oh. And at the end I took him out and I was like, I up. I up. And it was.

[Ari Shaffir]

It doesn't. The sound on. On sound system is. It overwhelms you. The slow rises, the four and a half minute long drops.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Ari Shaffir]

Instead of 20 second drops. She gets too into it. But it's got to envelop you.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

And we didn't let it.

[Dan Soder]

And I up and we were hungry and we were like, let's get the out of here. And we. We left to get food.

[Ari Shaffir]

I was like, okay.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. And it was one of those things where I was like, we're gonna leave. But we. It. I feel like I ruined the night with the earplugs.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

So I gotta buy. I'm. We had good area.

[Ari Shaffir]

We got to a place right before some stanchions, before the vip. So we're right behind the vip. But we had room so we could do. It's a lot of jumping.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Ari Shaffir]

We had something to hold on to.

[Dan Soder]

And I up with the earplugs.

[Ari Shaffir]

And I've done it before. I jump and it's tough to go this way. You end up going like, yeah, my jumping is not. So then I have to put my hand on somebody a lot of times a stranger. And I'm on a lot of molly. I'm gonna. And I don't want to step on them.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

And so people look back. I'm like, sorry. And they go, oh, it's cool.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, you're vibing. You're vibing I up. I think the only way to. To redo this is I need to get us tickets to LCD sound system next time they're in town proper. The.

[Ari Shaffir]

The worst parts was they have a song with a chorus that just. And it makes you think of Earl. The great ones are. I think of, like, Ralphie a lot or whatever, but when they start repeating, where are your friends tonight? Where are your friends tonight? And I'm like, mine are at home with pooping out McDonald's.

[Dan Soder]

They left. They left to go eat McDonald's. Where? Yeah, dude, I really.

[Ari Shaffir]

Where are your friends tonight? I was like, I know, right? I know.

[Dan Soder]

Hey, I know, right?

[Ari Shaffir]

And I did.

[Dan Soder]

And you know what? And I. I'm taking accountability. Okay? Thank you. I absolutely fucked up.

[Ari Shaffir]

Thank you.

[Dan Soder]

And I'm sorry for that. And I will bring. I will bring the proper earplugs the next time that we do drugs and go see LCD sound system, because I'll tell you right now, one of my greatest privileges in life is doing drugs and going to concerts with Ari Shafir.

[Ari Shaffir]

It rules so much. It rules so much. And we've been talked down to by some alcoholic people. I'm like, our drug is so much better than your drug. Fuck off.

[Dan Soder]

You know, it's a memory that I have at. At the Terminal 5. Yeah, we went and saw St. Paul and the Broken bones.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, they climbed all this.

[Dan Soder]

And the guy climbed this. Gave a hell of a performance, Ari. Greg Stone and I, that's who it was. We ate edibles and we sat there and watched. And we're all tall. The three of us are tall. And then these little tiny women behind us. That's so great. Hey, we can't see. We can't see in front of you.

[Ari Shaffir]

And we can't not stand. We're standing.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, we're standing.

[Ari Shaffir]

We have no choice.

[Dan Soder]

So we move, we open the wall and we go, go ahead. And it was two daughters and their mom and their dad and the two daughters. And the mom went ahead of us and the dad was standing there and the daughter said, we bought him tickets. He loves St. Paul and the broken bones. We bought the tickets for Father's Day. And so, you know, the human gate is open of Ari, Greg and I right now.

[Ari Shaffir]

We'll go pull back to the dad.

[Dan Soder]

We go, go ahead, dude. Dude, go ahead. And he goes, I'm okay. And we go, no, no, we really don't mind. And I remember What I said is, I go, no, dude, be with your family. And he looks right at me, and he goes, I'm good. And then we shut the human gate. So the mom and the daughters were in front of us. Dad was behind us. I've never seen a guy have a better time at a concert. He just wanted to be separated from his family. And he had two drinks, and he

[Ari Shaffir]

was behind us, and I just wanted to be alone.

[Dan Soder]

There's a song called Burning Rome, and his family was in front of us. And, like, one of the daughters is on her phone, and the mom's, like, kind of, like, doing it. And he's behind us with two beers. And he goes, they played Burning Rome. Yeah, they played Burning, right? He was, like, screaming it. We were laughing about it.

[Ari Shaffir]

But they're like, we got you something for your.

[Dan Soder]

For father.

[Ari Shaffir]

Like, what is it? He goes, four tickets to.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

And he's like, okay. Who do I bet? So we're all gonna. Craig.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. He's like, craig market. Oh, yeah, dude. That was absolutely the energy where he was like, yeah, I'll have a better

[Ari Shaffir]

time alone in a concert than with a bad group. With the wrong group.

[Dan Soder]

Yes. I've walked away at Queens of the Stone Age.

[Ari Shaffir]

She was like, my friends are all lame. I'm gonna go see this band at the Sphere by myself, and I'm gonna have a blast. I was like, yeah, do it. Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

I was at. It was in Arizona. I went and saw Queens of the Stone Age, and I was with a group of, like, five people. Two of them knew the band. Three of them weren't into it. And I just went like. I was still drinking, but I went. I was like, I'm gonna go get a beer. And I got a beer. And then I just went to the Pit, and I was like, this is what's up.

[Ari Shaffir]

I'm here.

[Dan Soder]

I'm here. Everyone is enjoying it.

[Ari Shaffir]

I had a better time. I have regrets, but I had a better time at Kendrick Lamar. Laying in the grass.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

On my back, far, far away from it. Barely hearing than I did with all those people around.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Too many people.

[Dan Soder]

That was how. That's. That sometimes you got to. A part of growing up is admitting what experience you want.

[Ari Shaffir]

And you could see. It's like, but I kind of want to be up there where there's less people. I can jump.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. And you. Like when. When I was in Amsterdam on Truffles losing my. At Pearl Jam, I went and stood against the back wall and enjoyed what

[Ari Shaffir]

I need right now.

[Dan Soder]

And I was like, this is what's up. I just watched the show. Everyone was like in front of me. I didn't feel like anyone was behind me, like I was with anybody. I just sat there and watched.

[Ari Shaffir]

I. I saw LCD at the. The tennis court, whatever it's called. And.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, yeah. At four sales.

[Ari Shaffir]

Four sales.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah. And I got good seats. And then. And then I was like trying, but it was like kind of bad. I was getting a little recognized, which I do not like. On drugs.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

I don't like that. I don't like being watched.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

On. When I'm on stuff. So I was like. And then I looked. They didn't really sell out the corners. And I'm like, I've seen it before. The light show there is cool, but like, I think I can jump around. So you go to like way, way cheaper tickets that in the moment are much better. And then you could jump and run up and down the stairs and like, have a good time. You have some space.

[Dan Soder]

That's what it's about. It's about having fun at concerts because people lose that real quick and they go, I'm with my group.

[Ari Shaffir]

You're kind of guessing what the vibe you'll want.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

And it's how. What the drugs are going to tell you to do.

[Dan Soder]

Also, sometimes there's fans of the. People can like a band too much. I went and saw.

[Ari Shaffir]

You guys are.

[Dan Soder]

I. I went and saw Greens of the Stone Age at Barclays and I brought my buddy who doesn't know them, who loved it. He went and he was like, what a great live rock show. And we're sitting there waiting for the train. We're waiting for the subway to go back to Queens. And he's telling me how good of a time he had. This girl overhears us. She's head to toe in Queensland, Stone Age shit. And she goes, you don't know Queens of the Stone Age? She goes, no, I don't really listen to him. She's like, how could you not listen to him?

[Ari Shaffir]

And I went, hey, he just got in.

[Dan Soder]

He's in, he's in. Stop. You're fucking gonna.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's just his first day. Relax. You got a first day.

[Dan Soder]

That's what I mean. Where she was like doing that. Where you go, lady, chill the out.

[Ari Shaffir]

Me and Matt Egger went to see. I was trying forever to go see Billy Strings.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Billy Strings Rules got into him. Billy Strings Rules got into him. And then I was like trying to. And then I had a drunken. I. I have been trying for A while to get a Billy Strings Danny Brown collaboration. Sick. And I.

[Dan Soder]

Only man in America that can make that work.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah, I keep pushing it. And there was some episode of. Of Rogan's. Me, Shane and Norman were on there. And. And I'm bombed. And I'm drinking beer out of the. Out of a turned over, like, top of a Christmas tree ornament it. And then I was like, pushing it. And Rogan's like, who's Billy's Tricks? I got. I got Fun Mag.

[Dan Soder]

I was like, rules.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. I do that with Sturgill, man. I'll get mad with people. Don't know Sturgill Simpson. Where I'll be like, well, he doesn't go by Sturgis Simpson right now. He goes by Johnny Blue Sky.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Like, he's Johnny Blue Skies, and you need to look him up. But I think that's the part of fandom that I think we've taken too far with, like, streaming and social media and is you could be too big of a fan that it turns off other people.

[Ari Shaffir]

So I know I wasn't the biggest fan. I just like what I like.

[Dan Soder]

Exactly.

[Ari Shaffir]

And so I'm trying to find a time to see him, and then he's gonna be an awesome one. I'm there. I'm like, oh, sick. I'm like. And I'm like, oh, no, I have shows at night.

[Dan Soder]

Sure. And.

[Ari Shaffir]

And. And I guess somebody showed him that. They made a clip of that. And he followed me. I was like, no way. And I was like, hey, dude, your is so good. You should try to find Danny Brown. I think you guys would do a great. And he goes, I'll check him out. I'm like, yeah, I've been trying to find a time goes, anytime, man. Which I'm like, anytime means. What does any time mean?

[Dan Soder]

It means.

[Ari Shaffir]

It means a specific time, but it means, do I get free tickets?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Or do. Or do you. Do I hit you up again?

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, you go. Because I could hit you up. I don't again.

[Ari Shaffir]

So I tried it. So he played Fort Worth, which is the best city in Texas. The day before I was in Austin doing my shows.

[Dan Soder]

Okay.

[Ari Shaffir]

So I was like, hey, can I come? He goes, got your tickets?

[Dan Soder]

Great, great.

[Ari Shaffir]

So then we got our seats, but we think we had all excess passes. We're on mushrooms.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, boy.

[Ari Shaffir]

Me and Matt Edgar, you know Matt. Yeah, yeah. And then we're like. To the lady, we're like, hey, can we go in there? And she goes, well, you got these great seats. I'm Like, I know, but, like, these guys suck.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. I want a jam.

[Ari Shaffir]

Can we go in there?

[Dan Soder]

Similar to what we were talking about with the roast.

[Ari Shaffir]

She goes, let me ask. And she goes, yeah, it's all access. I'm like, yeah. And we go in there, there's some guy who's so up, who's like, founder, it's our first time. And he goes, oh, bro. And he was so cute. He was like coaching us through it. So he goes, okay. So when he played this into this, that was really big. I'm like, okay. And then later, that's what I do

[Dan Soder]

at Queensland's concerts with Katie. I go, you have to understand, they haven't played Mexicola live that I've seen in like five years.

[Ari Shaffir]

He's not gonna do dust in a baggie. Don't expect him to. But that's. That's good.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

He goes. And he's like, hey, this was about dmt.

[Dan Soder]

You should get it.

[Ari Shaffir]

I was like, okay, cool. And then I found all these wooks that were dancing. Here's a whole wook section.

[Dan Soder]

Great.

[Ari Shaffir]

And it was like, so fun. And so we're like, let's not get too up because there is a non zero chance that we get invited back afterwards to say hi. I do with Danny all the time. Sure. I brought Simon's in there. It's his favorite musician.

[Dan Soder]

That's great.

[Ari Shaffir]

Didn't know that. I knew he liked him. And he comes back, I'm like, hey, Danny, I've gotten to be friends with him.

[Dan Soder]

Sure.

[Ari Shaffir]

It helps that I'm not a rap fan, so I could be cool. Yeah, but. And I'm like, here's my friend Daniel and I love it. Oh, anyway, he likes it. Yeah, but, but. And so I'm like, there's a non zero chance that we're going to meet him, so we shouldn't get too fucked up. So this is moment. We're tripping enough and we're like, wild. And he's sober, but it's like, oh, just like lcd. They play a song for everybody.

[Dan Soder]

Sure.

[Ari Shaffir]

The drunks. For the molly heads. Mushrooms. The people. For the weed heads.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

For the sobers. There's something for each of them.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

And Billy does it too. There's something for the date night people that are just drinking some wine jam with their legs. Definitely. Some for mushrooms. I mean, he was a meth head. There might be a song or two for meth. I couldn't relate. But everyone will like it all, but you'll like it on another level.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

So I saw LCD the time we went when Vita was held up by the crowd.

[Dan Soder]

That was crazy.

[Ari Shaffir]

I saw him the next day just on. Just on. Just some weed. And I'm like, oh, they're playing songs for this. There's an experience with just the potheads and Yesterday for the. For the Molly.

[Dan Soder]

That's understanding your crowd.

[Ari Shaffir]

There was also that. Michelle's like. They spoke through that.

[Dan Soder]

The disco ball.

[Ari Shaffir]

The disco ball.

[Dan Soder]

They're talking to it.

[Ari Shaffir]

I am there they are me.

[Dan Soder]

We took. I mean, we took a heavy dose when we saw LCD sound system. We did Mushrooms and Molly, and it

[Ari Shaffir]

was a night they'd have told the next after.

[Dan Soder]

I did a bonfire. I did a YKWD and a bonfire. You can find it. I pissed nine times during the bonfire episode.

[Ari Shaffir]

Wow.

[Dan Soder]

Because I was up for two days. So this game was like, you're going to pee again?

[Ari Shaffir]

And I was like, yes, yes, again.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Another yarmulker for you.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Ari Shaffir]

So this is moment. We're, like, tripping out or whatever. And then we both had the same realization. We're, like, looked at each other and like, he would not mind if we're too up.

[Dan Soder]

That's like, he would not.

[Ari Shaffir]

He would love it if we got back there like this. He'd be like, yeah, dude, come sit down.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, that is fun. Yeah, that is very fun going like. He'd be proud of us.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah. And all the people telling us about it. It's such a family thing.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

I think he's even way bigger now.

[Dan Soder]

But, yeah, music is. Music has still got that. And I think comedy has that to a certain extent of like, there is a fun part of that old record store culture of like, I don't know this. I'm going in. And someone goes, hey, you should like this. They're into this. They do this. Dead had a great thing doing that string cheese incident. All of them have that. Like, yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

If you're watching a whole night at the commerce store in the old days and you had a guy there telling you, like, so this guy used to be on. He was a Like, Like a senator. Now he's a comic again. Like, oh, really? Or like, hey, this guy's like, Holtzman. He's like, he's gonna go hard. Understand. He's joking.

[Dan Soder]

It's my favorite thing to do when people visit New York and they're like, one of my close friends and they come with me to the Cellar. I'll be like, you got to watch this guy. Because this guy does this and he does this.

[Ari Shaffir]

He'll Crush once every eight times.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Bomb six and do. Okay.

[Dan Soder]

And I'll leave them in the showroom and then, like, come back in and check in with them. And they'd be like, I like that second guy. And you go, that guy's the best. You have the best taste. You're like, yeah, yeah. It's great being a fan. Rules. Just don't be too much of a.

[Ari Shaffir]

Let people find it.

[Dan Soder]

Let people find it. Great way Arch Fear. You're a true mensch, buddy.

[Ari Shaffir]

I love you. I missed you a lot. I thought about you when I was traveling.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, man, I was. I was mad when I opened my WhatsApp. And miss our time to connect.

[Ari Shaffir]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Soder]

You'd send one every five months, but you're back. Yeah. Check out the end. It is.

[Ari Shaffir]

Oh, we gotta say it. Oh, we didn't say it at all. I made a TV show.

[Dan Soder]

It made a TV show called the End.

[Ari Shaffir]

What does it remind you of? I can't say it, but you can.

[Dan Soder]

It reminds me of. This is not happening. Okay, great.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's legally. He made that connection.

[Dan Soder]

I made that connection. Ari did not. But it. You know, it's everybody that loves Ari came out and told the story.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yours was so funny.

[Dan Soder]

Well, I got into mine.

[Ari Shaffir]

You did get into yours.

[Dan Soder]

I said, I didn't have a story. I didn't have anything worked out. Shane was doing it. Shane was like, come on, dude, I don't have a story. And I go, you have so many stories.

[Ari Shaffir]

Shane's always though. And he always prepared for this guy.

[Dan Soder]

And then he kills. Prepare. And then we showed up. What's funny is. And people don't know, this is we when we filmed it. We're on a different episode, but we were filming me and Shane after Ms. Pat, who was murdering about Bob Saget, coming over to her house. Yeah. Talking about eating Shane. And I remembered that gay people gave each other monkeypox. So Shane and I were backstage going. We were doing the phone call to go, hey, Steven, you get me monkeypox? And it was making us laugh like middle school. We're going to get in trouble in class. Hard. To the point that people on your production staff were coming over and going, hey, you guys need to shut the up. Hear you laughing. And then Shane is like, I use. We're both dying. And then we were like, all right, let's go up. But then it came out, great.

[Ari Shaffir]

Thank you. This is why you don't want a network saying, hey, what are you going to say? I need to see everything.

[Dan Soder]

Sure.

[Ari Shaffir]

You Go. You want a comic going, guys, if you think of something in the moment, go for it. If it doesn't go to, I'll drop it. But that was such a funny through line.

[Dan Soder]

It was so funny. And you guys pretty much talked about

[Ari Shaffir]

two separate stories together. Rift off each other.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. And it was like I knew some people's favorite. Oh, that's great. But we had. We had like a lot of fun being like, oh, yeah. And I got, you know, he was like, good at football and I sucked. So it's always fun to be like, this is how bad I sucked at football. And he's like, that's crazy.

[Ari Shaffir]

I sucked slightly after you.

[Dan Soder]

It was. It was fucking great.

[Ari Shaffir]

But you guys are on. It's a. Everyone's a one hour episode. You guys are on ruminations of when I Used to suck.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

Episode 106. They're not in any order.

[Dan Soder]

They're not. But check it out. It is great. You got Nate, you got list. You got Bobby, you got Big J. You got. I mean, Big J tells the Armageddon Story, which I love.

[Ari Shaffir]

That's my right. That was like when I was like, dust that off, man. I got a show coming and I want you to.

[Dan Soder]

That and the list 1. Can you see it? Yeah, let's see it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Can you picture it?

[Dan Soder]

So good. And Bobby's was phenomenal. Ms. Pat's was great. I watched like a bunch of people record. You shot it beautifully at the box.

[Ari Shaffir]

Thank you.

[Dan Soder]

Shout out to Eric Abrams. He was a part of it. Right.

[Ari Shaffir]

He's the best director in comedy.

[Dan Soder]

He just.

[Ari Shaffir]

I was sorry.

[Dan Soder]

I was. Yeah. But I was hanging out with him and I was telling him, like, it was just great. Go check out the end if you want to.

[Ari Shaffir]

Just get that episode. It's six bucks. Why get all of them? They're each an hour. Then it ends up being about four bucks each per hour. And then also, I don't know if you know this. There's a prologue we made to bridge the gap. It's free. Not free for me, but free. Yeah. To get it bridges the gap from that old show. Would you call it. This is not happening to the new show. The End and what happened and why It's a new name and just why I'm bringing it back. And I tried to have a thing of like, the show wasn't just what you saw.

[Dan Soder]

Film.

[Ari Shaffir]

The show was all these live moments.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

For me, anyway, my memories of the show were equal. Ms. Pat telling me that thing about Bob Saget was like that I Guess we filmed it, but could have. It's actually a live show. And so I had this thing of like, all the. My favorite moments that I remember and just a little homage. And you're in there on one of them. Yeah. Which is? Which is we had a mushroom episode in Montreal.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

On Shroom Fest.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

And we're all supposed to take mushrooms and everything at JFL except the two of us.

[Dan Soder]

Everyone bailed. He was the midnight show. And he went, here's what's gonna happen. We're gonna eat mushrooms and then we're gonna do the show. And I was like, tell my stories maybe. I was like, yes. And then I ate the mushrooms before, while the show previously was going on. And I went outside and I smoked a couple joints and I'm kicking it and I'm like, ready? And I'm starting to feel it. And then Ari comes up to me, wild eyed, full of mushrooms. And he goes, we're the only ones that did mushrooms. Where do you want to go in the lineup? And I went like, why isn't anyone else doing mushrooms? And you went, they bailed. And I went, can I go first?

[Ari Shaffir]

Should not have said that. But I was on mushrooms. Too much to know not say that.

[Dan Soder]

And you went. You could go first. Yeah, I went first. And it was going great until the light on the stair kicked in and then I bombed. Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

You were like having a blast. And you're like, yeah. And it. What was your. We're looking at the light drone. What?

[Dan Soder]

Just it went on and I went, did that. Like, I'm on. And the guy went, no. And then the light went on again and turned off. And I went, that light didn't go on and turn off. And he went, no. And then I was like, why is everybody with me? That's why. And I was like, oh, no, where am I out of my story spiral? And I was having so much fun until that moment.

[Ari Shaffir]

So there's an homage in there to just one light bulb.

[Dan Soder]

Oh, yeah, Great.

[Ari Shaffir]

They're not like, so in your face, the homages. There's a light bulb. And that is you from that story

[Dan Soder]

freaked out in the prologue. Yeah. But check out the end. Yma ymh studios.com you can download arisha

[Ari Shaffir]

fear.com it's easier to remember dot com. The link is right there.

[Dan Soder]

Traffic.

[Ari Shaffir]

But guys, this is the way we're kind of going around the system.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah.

[Ari Shaffir]

With this self release. I know people are used to getting stand up for free and I don't.

[Dan Soder]

I don't blame you. For getting a little mad about it.

[Ari Shaffir]

But it's about four bucks per hour. It's like. It's less than.

[Dan Soder]

It's like four.

[Ari Shaffir]

Four movies long.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah. Shit's changing. It's all touring and doing it yourself.

[Ari Shaffir]

It's gonna be rental till a year after we stop selling it. And then I'm gonna figure out a way to get everybody download cards so that they can have it forever. I just don't have that. That yet. But I'll look up. You and I are like, we're way closer to the ticket buyers than the. Than the ticket sellers.

[Dan Soder]

Yes.

[Ari Shaffir]

You know, in the. In the life. So we're like, we understand your plight. So thank you. It's great. Dude, I'm so glad you did it.

[Dan Soder]

It was very fun. It was very fun. I was. I was like, I don't have anything. And then after I did it, Shane was like, that was so fun.

[Ari Shaffir]

If you want to test just their episode and get the. Not the rest, but you get a disc, you get two free. If you get five, so do that. But if you want to test it starts with tolimash.

[Dan Soder]

Great.

[Ari Shaffir]

Then Sam. Talent.

[Dan Soder]

Great.

[Ari Shaffir]

Who's a lot of people's favorite story.

[Dan Soder]

He's my favorite.

[Ari Shaffir]

Bobby Kelly.

[Dan Soder]

Great.

[Ari Shaffir]

Who's a lot of people's favorite story. And then you two.

[Dan Soder]

Yeah, it's fun. It's just a very fun. Watch the end. Irish fear.com.

[Ari Shaffir]

yeah.

[Dan Soder]

Tell you plug it.

[Ari Shaffir]

Yeah. Thanks. I love you, man. I love both you guys.

[Dan Soder]

We love you too. Yeah, we're big fans. We're glad you're back in the country with your bag of mulch.