Daniel Foxx - Straight people can have Facebook

Summary

Sofieland with Sofie Hagen

Episode: Daniel Foxx – Straight People Can Have Facebook
Date: February 24, 2026
Guest: Daniel Foxx

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Brief Overview

In this lively and irreverent episode, comedian and host Sofie Hagen welcomes fellow comedian Daniel Foxx for a hilarious, free-wheeling conversation full of sharp wit and self-deprecating humor. The episode moves from playful, satirical policies for the imaginary land of Sofieland and musings about straight men on social media, to discussions of supernatural experiences, drugs, comedy, self-perception, and the problematic allure of the “pick me” phase. Listeners are treated to both high-energy banter and surprisingly thoughtful insights into insecurity, sincerity, and personal growth.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Entry into Sofieland and Imaginary Laws

• Government Roles and Power Dynamics ([01:22])

  • Sofie jokingly appoints Daniel to her imaginary land's government. He prefers to wield influence as "power just to the right of the throne."
  • Daniel: "I would never want to be...on the throne. No, I'd love to be the power just to the right of the throne." [01:32]
  • Hilariously imagines Sofie as a ventriloquist's dummy and Daniel as the puppeteer.

• Satirical Law: Ban on Straight Men on Social Media ([02:09])

  • Daniel proposes banning straight men from Instagram and TikTok, allowing them only on YouTube “for looksmaxing and gaming,” and Facebook as a background check tool.
  • Daniel: "When I see a cis straight man on Instagram or TikTok...I recoil."
  • They explore exceptions and elaborate an elaborate system where straight men are tracked like tagged animals to monitor their whereabouts. ([04:03-04:49])
  • Sofie: "How can you look them up to see if they're normal before you date them?"
    Daniel: "Well, then I think you should have...Facebook." [03:32–03:39]

2. Compliment Exchange and Self-Deprecation ([07:06])

• Mutual admiration is both sincere and undercut with playful jabs:
  • Sofie: "You are one of the smartest, most articulate, and most talented comedians..." [07:06–07:19]
  • Daniel mockingly compliments Sofie’s confident use of vocabulary: "You just used the word arsenal and there wasn't even a flicker of the doubt I know you had..." [07:48-08:09]
  • Discussion on how Sofie is a mix of impressive intellect and weirdly basic gaps in knowledge.

3. Supernatural Experiences and Belief

• Ghosts, Rituals, and Skepticism ([10:26])
  • Neither Sofie nor Daniel has seen a ghost but both want to believe and share stories of strange, unexplained happenings—from Daniel's mum's experience in an antique shop ([11:11]) to friends who encounter mysterious phenomena (e.g. recurring needles in a maid’s room: [15:08–16:24]).
  • Discussion of rituals, intention-setting, the value of ceremony, and how psychology and spirituality overlap.
  • Daniel: "There's something in putting intention out into the world...just for our own brains." [12:05]
  • Sofie’s practice of talking to hotel ghosts and expressing empathy as a tactic for peace.

4. Drugs, Psychedelics, and Self-Experimentation

• Therapeutic and Ceremonial Curiosity ([17:53])

  • Both voice interest in psychedelics as a tool for self-discovery (e.g. ayahuasca, mushrooms), but with strong preferences for safety—ideally blending shamans and medical staff.
  • Daniel: “I want some people in...a feathered sort of robe...and I also want someone in a white lab coat with a CPR qualification.” [18:38]
  • Reflections on the need for “annoying enlightenment,” i.e. how everyone becomes tedious after discovering ayahuasca.

• Drug Stories and Party Antics ([21:29])

  • Both share a lack of affinity for traditional clubbing/drug scenes. Daniel discusses never clicking with weed, and Sofie shares her experience with weed brownies.
  • The pair bond over the idea that they’d thrive not as drug-takers, but as the organizers/preparers of drugs, attracted to the “accessories” of drug culture rather than the drugs themselves. [23:33–24:00]

5. Love, Comedy, and Dating

• Comedy as a Deterrent in the Dating World ([25:01–26:35])
  • Both discuss how performing comedy and revealing their silly sides can be a turn-off for potential romantic partners—especially for Daniel as a gay man.
  • Daniel: "Let me show you that I'm capable of being fuckable. And then I'll show you my silly side." [26:35]
• Cautionary Tales about Fancying Male Comedians ([26:35–29:04])
  • Sofie shares a cringeworthy tale of messaging a Danish comedian she fancied, only to encounter that same message years later in a professional context. Both agree male comedians can create misleadingly vulnerable onstage personas.
  • Daniel: “You’re seeing the serial killer in action.” [27:14]

6. “Pick Me” Phases, Self-Reflection, and Growth

• Pick Me Behavior and Internalized Biases ([29:04–35:37])

  • Both reflect on their youth spent trying to differentiate themselves via “pick me” behaviors.
  • Daniel recalls his “Richard Dawkins phase” and being embarrassingly outspoken against religion as a teen ([29:50-30:24]), as well as reviewing his own cringeworthy early tweets (e.g., "Took my laptop to get fixed by the lovely men at PC World. Toasted Twister from KFC on the way home. Lovely stuff." [31:16]).
  • Sofie shares being the annoying contrarian in school religion lessons, trying to out-logic religious educators ([33:24]), and how early comedy sets relied on tired tropes about women.

• Insecurity as the Root of Judgment ([35:03-35:52])

  • They note that mocking or cringing at others is often a reflection of one's own insecurity or unfinished self-work.
  • Sofie quotes: "How dare you forget who taught you the thing you're now being self-righteous about?" ([35:46])
  • Daniel: "That should be a tattoo. We should all have to co-sign that before we're allowed outside." [35:46]

7. Romantic and Aesthetic Preferences

• Attracted to “Messed Up Faces” ([37:26])
  • Chat about dimples, scars, facial quirks, and the allure of unique features, segueing into a detailed (and passionate) discussion about The Phantom of the Opera and its protagonist’s disfigurement ([40:08-42:58]).

8. Musical Musings

• Andrew Lloyd Webber & Musical Preferences ([43:12])
  • Debate over the merits (or lack thereof) of Andrew Lloyd Webber musicals, with both largely unimpressed with his oeuvre except for some Phantom songs.

9. Closing Banter

• Daniel shares his socials: “Search for Daniel Foxx with two X's and there I will be. I am everywhere.” [44:35]
• Joke about hiding early embarrassing tweets from the public.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Daniel (on social media bans):
  • “When I see a cis straight man on Instagram or TikTok...I recoil. Like when you accidentally touch a spider.” [02:50]
• Sofie (on tracking straight men):
  • “Like a sex offenders registry where they have to go...say, ‘Hi, I’m Philip, just to let you know, I am a straight man.’” [04:51]
• Daniel (about intention rituals):
  • “There's something in just like putting intention out into the world…and that can be woo woo…but also just for our own brains.” [12:05]
• Daniel (on safe psychedelic use):
  • “I want some people in...a feathered robe...and I also want someone in a white lab coat with a CPR qualification.” [18:38]
• Sofie (on dating comedians):
  • “What you’re seeing is someone who’s learned a script that is like, how am I most likable? I’ll just repeat this.” [27:05]
• Daniel (reviewing his own early tweet):
  • “Took my laptop to get fixed by the lovely men at PC World. Toasted Twister from KFC on the way home. Lovely stuff.” [31:16]
• Sofie (on self-righteousness):
  • “How dare you forget who taught you the thing you’re now being self-righteous about?” [35:46]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 01:22 - Welcome to Sofieland, governmental appointments, and power banter
• 02:09–04:49 - Satirical discussion on straight men and social media
• 07:06–08:23 - Compliment exchange and affectionate mockery
• 10:26–17:52 - Ghosts, the supernatural, and psychological rituals
• 17:53–24:00 - Psychedelics, safe spaces, and party anecdotes
• 25:01–29:04 - Comedy, sex appeal, and cautionary tales in dating comedians
• 29:04–35:52 - Pick me phases, growing up, and self-reflection
• 37:26–42:58 - Preferences for “messed up faces” and passionate Phantom of the Opera rant
• 43:12–44:40 - Musical theater discourse and closing plugs

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Tone & Style

• Playful, irreverent, and honest. The episode is full of affectionate teasing, self-aware confessionals, and comedic exaggeration, mixed with moments of genuine vulnerability and reflection. Both Sofie and Daniel are quick-witted, weaving pop culture references, social observation, and personal anecdotes seamlessly.

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This episode gives listeners a peek into the minds of two sharp comedians who never shy away from skewering themselves, their peers, or broader social norms—always managing to balance biting satire with disarming sincerity.

Transcript

[A]

Dear citizens of Sophie land, I will let you listen to the episode in approximately 60 seconds. But first I just want to let you know that my brand new show, I think some of this is my fault, will be going to the Edinburgh Fringe this August. And then in November I'm taking it to Soho Theater in London. Then it's going on tour to Denmark, Copenhagen, Unser and Aarhus, Sweden, Melmurg and Stockholm. Then I'm going to Berlin. I'm going to Rotterdam. The UK dates have just come out which are Leicester, Sheffield, Selby, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Reading, Brighton, Cambridge, London and Exeter. Tickets can be found on sophie hagen.com link is in the show notes alongside the link for the Patreon or the substack. Because this podcast is self produced, meaning I do all of the stuff. I do the editing, the uploading, the booking of the guests, the interviews, every single effing thing. So your support means the whole world to me. So if you sign up for the Patreon or the substack, you will get extra fun bonus content and you get to support me. I really appreciate it. I really love you. Thank you so much for listening. Please enjoy this episode. Thank you. Welcome back to this. Next week it'll probably still feel as if we've been hanging out for a week straight and talking non stuff, but I've decided, Daniel, that I will allow you to live in my land.

[B]

Oh, thank you.

[A]

And also that you can be on the government if you want.

[B]

Oh, I would. I think I'm hungry for power.

[A]

Okay, good. But just know that I can veto. That's fine.

[B]

I can veto as long as I'm. I would never want to be. I've always thought this. I'd never want to be on the throne. No, I'd love to be the power just to the right of the throne.

[A]

Oh, yeah, the real power.

[B]

Not even necessarily the world power, but just the sort of whispering, the smug eunuch, the like leaning down.

[A]

I want your hand up my bum. And control my mouth at your silent, my liege.

[B]

A wonderful decision, my lord.

[A]

Yeah, that's. I need that. I like that. I need that on my. By my side.

[B]

Caroline. My lord.

[A]

Well, that's it then. What's your thing? What do you want to. What. What kind of law do you want to make in the land?

[B]

I malish would love if you would ban straight men from being on social media. Oh, I don't think they belong on it. Yeah, I don't think they belong there. It's not for them, it's for us.

[A]

How do you define YouTube? Does that count? YouTube? TikToks.

[B]

I might let them have YouTube.

[A]

Yeah. Facebook.

[B]

They can't go on TikTok or Instagram.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And. And I reserve the right for future ones that come up to also ban them. They can have their YouTube. They like that. And they can post about looks, maxing and gaming and stuff on there. But I. When I see a cis straight man on Instagram or TikTok.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I recoil. Like. You know when you accidentally touch a spider and you look down, you're like, yeah. I'm like, oh, what are you doing on here? It's so embarrassing. It's so embarrassing when you see them on there.

[A]

I do have to say. What about obviously, the man with the axe? The man on TikTok with the axe. Yeah.

[B]

But I would. Okay. But I don't think he should be the one in charge of that count.

[A]

Oh, so they can be there if someone else controls it.

[B]

Yeah, I think just a good woman.

[A]

Someone who's about to.

[B]

A little gay PR boy. Something. Someone can be posting him.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

For their own material gain. But I just don't think it should be. I think it's so cringe just to see any straight cis man having social. Having an Instagram or TikTok. What are you doing? What are you doing?

[A]

How can you look them up to see if they're normal before you date them?

[B]

Well, then I think you should have. Well, Facebook.

[A]

They get to have Facebook.

[B]

They can have. Yeah. Or maybe there'll be some sort of. We'll have to think it through. We'll have maybe some sort of subsidiary, like. Like a yellow pages.

[A]

Yeah, it has to be like an. Like an official one. Like, like a blue. Do you have the blue book in school? Is that a thing?

[B]

No, the yearbook. Yeah, yearbooks.

[A]

Oh, we just call it the blue.

[B]

Yeah, something like that.

[A]

Which is where someone else has made it. Someone else has written down who you are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So we can still look at them, you know, when.

[B]

Well, I think this actually more generally, again with straight men, you know when they track sharks and dolphins and they sort of like shoot a dart into all of them and tag them. Or they'll, like all the tigers within a certain sanctuary, they'll have, like darted them, sedated them, and they attach a tracker to their ear. I do think we should know where all straight men are at all times.

[A]

Yeah, I like that.

[B]

And just sort of. And then we go like, okay, what's this? Okay, so this is Philip. He's a mature male. He's 36 years old. We can see that he's been going to the west of the enclosure quite a fair bit. He's a few pounds lighter than last year. We'll keep an eye on that. And he has a thing for blondes.

[A]

Great. Yeah.

[B]

And then I would. Hello. Fit, like.

[A]

And then they should do what they do in like. Like a sex offenders registry where they have to go. Every time they move to a new area, they have to go and say, hi, I'm Philip.

[B]

Just to let you know. Just to let you know, I am a straight man.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And we go, thank you for letting me know. And then we say to our gay children, don't go near that man.

[A]

Don't go near that man. I'm not allowed within 6, 6ft of a B and Q.

[B]

Don't. Yeah. Yep. So that maybe is my secondary policy. But I just. I think when I see. Genuinely, when I see a straight man on social media, I think, what are you doing here? And they're never good at it.

[A]

I don't know. I'm prone to a few.

[B]

Like, who?

[A]

Musicians who play nice music, maybe. I mean, the guy with the axe.

[B]

Okay. I'm gonna say some comedians, I think. I don't mean ones who use it professionally.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Though I would like them all off. But I think, like, because I like watching the occasional comedian.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Straight one or. Or like Hosier or whatever. But I think I'm Lewis Capaldi. Capaldi. I'm cringing at just like your average non famous, Right. Cis straight guy. Who is. This is what I have for lunch. Here's a selfie of me.

[A]

I see.

[B]

Oh, had a good time at Wilderness Festival. Like, get off of here. You're not up with all our funny things. Right now. At the time of recording is the point where Michelle Yeoh is going around going, madame Morrible. Mm. Flip it around. Wicked Witch. Like, they are not across that. And if they did try and do something, I'd be like, ugh.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They have like. They're sort of so out of the loop and it's so embarrassing.

[A]

Yeah. In a way, you're doing it to protect them. Yeah.

[B]

I want them off and they can have their own thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A bit like, you know when you give young children a mobile phone with no SIM card in it so they can pretend. Yeah. Or like a calculator and you're like, I'm going to phone my friend.

[A]

Yeah. You go on your Instagram.

[B]

Did you take a selfie?

[A]

Why does your Instagram different than mine?

[B]

Shh. Oh, I don't know.

[A]

Yours is the real one.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I like that. I like that theory. I think it'd be a menace on my. In my government. My next question.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Is this. I think, and I really, genuinely believe that you are one of the smartest, most articulate and most talented comedians of.

[B]

Thank you. That's very nice.

[A]

Day. I really think, especially these last couple of years, days we've spent together. It is insane how quick your mind works and, like, the arsenal of jokes that just must live in your head constantly and that doesn't even measure up to just, like, what a good friend you are, which is really overwhelming. Has helped me a lot in my life. And the question is, what compliment would you give me?

[B]

I'm.

[A]

I hate you for not just pretending to laugh at that.

[B]

I'm so proud of you that you just used the word arsenal and there wasn't even a flicker of the doubt I know you had in your mind of whether that is the right word to use or not. You have come such a long way. You said that so confidently.

[A]

Yeah. The football team.

[B]

Yes. You said it as if you knew it was right. And that's half the battle, isn't it? Yeah. And when you said that, I thought, she's gonna be okay.

[A]

You gave me one of my. It wasn't even a compliment. But you. You said that I'm in some things about me. Oh, I'm the smart. Really, really smart. And then there are the most basic things in the world. I don't know, like an alien.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

I think about that every day in

[B]

some ways in some topic, and I never know. So sometimes, like, am I being incredibly patronized now? Because I'm about to explain something really basic. But you are someone where some things that are so obscure and so complex and so academic, you are like a genius expert on. And then there are other things where I'm like, well, it would be ridiculous to explain this because of course she knows. You've never even heard of it, which makes every day fun. Never know. Never know what we're gonna have to go over or not go over.

[A]

I think about it every day. I've never had anyone encapsulate who I am as a person as well. But you knew I was going to give you a compliment, so you had your smug face on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I couldn't catch you off guard.

[B]

Yeah. Because you've. You've been torturing comedians around the country who I think have probably been taking you so sincerely.

[A]

They've been so nice.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Horrible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But it's fun.

[B]

I wonder when someone will really get you with it. As in, as in really know that you're joking but have something to like ruin you with in response.

[A]

Oh, they've all been very. Yeah. It's a stupid question, I guess if

[B]

I was to give you a sincere compliment.

[A]

Yeah, I'm still waiting.

[B]

It's how brilliantly, I think just across your career you have sort of like concealed your extreme right wing views because it's not what you're known for.

[A]

I know,

[B]

but like the level of bigotry.

[A]

What's the off button is like.

[B]

And like I'm not, like I'm not someone. But shocking. It's shocking. It's like very, very shocking.

[A]

You're such a crap. Have you ever seen a ghost?

[B]

No. I really, really want to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm someone who is so. I think I do believe in the supernatural but I'm like so ready to believe in like witchcraft and energy and ghosts and aliens and like just general, like I want there to be more than meets the eye and I think there is. But I've never experienced anything that I can put a finger on, particularly where I go. And that convinced me there's nothing. I've never had a thing. But I know people I trust who have like. My mum's had a few like supernatural experiences.

[A]

Which ones?

[B]

Well, recently she was in Edinburgh last year at the Fringe and she went into like, she and my brother went into like a, like a fossil shop or a crystal shop or something like an antique shop maybe. And she was like leaning down to look at this antique and then she felt like a sharp strong poking in her shoulder and she sort of like laughed and turned around to speak to my. To say stop it. To my brother until there was no one there. She was alone in the room.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

And then like all the hair on the back of her neck stood up and she was like, oh, and like a few other things like that in her life where I'm like, well, I believe you. Like I know you're not lying to me so. But yeah, I've never. I would love like I'm so open to a ghost.

[A]

I feel it. But what do you mean you. I mean because you're doing like spells and stuff. You're doing like candles and yeah, moon, moon stuff. So like you must believe in that, right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or is it more like about the ritual?

[B]

Yeah, well, it's a bit of that and it's also a bit of like to be not funny about it. But like I think there's something in just like putting intention out into the world and that can, that can be woo woo, but it can also just be like, like just plain psychologists, scientists, people who are like completely anti supernatural are like, oh, it's beneficial to us to put our intentions out there just for our own brains. It's more likely to happen because we've made it a thing, we've said, we've put a focus on it. So I'm sort of like, well, it's either that or it's like prayer and witchcraft, spells and positive thinking and all of those. It's all kind of the same thing of just going this thing and manifestation. It's all like I'm saying this thing and I'm sort of willing it to be so. And I'm saying it out loud. I'm like putting it out there. So I'm like, it's either that or it's just the psychological thing. But either way it feels like it's a good thing to do. But what I want is to do that and then like a fireball explode from the crystals and I want to like levitate in the air and then be like, okay.

[A]

Have you stayed in haunted places?

[B]

Yeah, you have you stayed in that

[A]

prison, the Oxford Melissa, after one of

[B]

your racist attacks, we were put in that prison, that haunted prison, Oxford Mel Mason, which is for the listener, like an old, I think from like the days of like Robin Hood. Like an old, it was old prison, like medieval.

[A]

They hung people on like right outside of the prison and stuff.

[B]

And then it was a prison up until like the 19 somethings. And then it's been turned into this like luxury hotel.

[A]

Really lovely hotel.

[B]

They make amazing sliders, scratch marks and dents in the door doors because it's the original prison doors.

[A]

It's incredible. It's incredible. Probably so unethical, but so fun.

[B]

Best sleep of my life. Super cozy. Didn't feel a ghost anywhere.

[A]

I know, but I also, but I think it. I go in and then I talk to them. I've stayed in so many haunted, like supposedly haunted hotels. I said one in like Brussels or something. That was, it was so spooky. It was like the room that people had been tortured in.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

But I go in and I talk to them. I go, hi, I'm so sorry about what happened to you. I read like, I, I'm sorry, like I, I'm sorry what you've had to go through that. If you're, if you're listening, if you're here, you know, I'M I feel for you and then I sit there and I, like, feel it and I just, like, I'm so sorry. You know, I'm. I would just like to sleep here tonight, but I'll treat it with respect. And, you know, I'm going to be quiet and I'm going to be nice about it. And I'm so sorry. And let me know if I can do anything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think it helps.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Because I've not experienced anything directly myself, but again, same as you. People around me that I trust have experienced so many things.

[B]

People where you're like, it means nothing to tell another person it. Because the moment it becomes a friend

[A]

of mine, you don't know them anymore.

[B]

But when it is your friend.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Or loved one, you are sort of like, I genuinely know that you wouldn't lie.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You're not just making this up. This is a thing that happened.

[A]

And also with my friend, she, who lived in an old maid's quarter, like a. It's like a flat in Copenhagen, Central Copenhagen. So it's really, really old. And then it's like, across the hall from the flat. It's like a separate room, which is for the maid in the olden days. It's like a little sink. And then she'd have, like. What's it called? Under the bed.

[B]

Oh, a bedpan.

[A]

Yes, under the bed. So one of those little rooms, she. That's where she lived. And she would. When she moved in, there were needles like. Like sewing needles all over the floor, in the blanket. In the blanket, in the cap rug. In the rug. And she would, like, pick them all up, make sure there was no one. And she would, like, take her hand over the rug, over the carpet, until she was like, there are no more needles here. And she'd go to bed, wake up, and there'd be needles again. And I was in that room often with her as she was picking up these. And she put them in this little pillow, this tiny, tiny pillow. She put all the needles in. And it just got more and more needles, like, every week. And she. And I saw her, like, run her hand through it. And I saw her as she found the needles to put them in this little thing. God, like, and she would. She could see ghosts, she said, at least. And she would do this thing where we were, like, having a chat in this room, and then suddenly she would look right above my head and she'd, like, look down really quick and go, no, no, it's fine, it's fine. I promise you. It's fine.

[B]

I'd be like, that's so something I would have done as a teenager. Well, it is weird when like. So like my parents house is like a really old cottage that used to be a farm cottage. It's like 200 and something years old. And when we first moved in when I was like 12, there was. I remember a couple of the rooms had a weird feeling. That's probably the most supernatural thing. There was just a slightly foreboding feeling. And guests would come over and be like, feels a bit weird in there, doesn't it? And the animals wouldn't go in there.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

Like if you tried to like get the dog to go in there, it'd be like, no, thank you.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

And then one day it just cleared. I don't really know what happened, but suddenly it was fine. And then the animals would go in there. But sometimes you'll be in there. And cats do this all the time. But people say that cats are like supernatural and can see the other side and whatever, see beyond the veil. And sometimes they do that thing and I've had it where like both two cats in the room, just in the sitting room and they both suddenly sit bolt upright and stare at the same time at nothing. And then both track it across the room.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

Until they both, at the same time go. And then just carry on as. Because it's gone now. They both just look back to normal life. You're like, what was that? Because you were both very visibly watching something. That's the only tiny thing. And that could. I mean that could be a speck of dust.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

That they were watching. But like that's as much as I. But I would. I'm so up for it. I think I'd quite like to try some of the more medicinal side of psychedelic drugs. For example, not acid, but ayahuasca and magic mushrooms within a sort of ceremonial thing where you're with my therapist recommended because I said I was interested in that. And there's like a. I think there's several. But there's an institution in South America where it is a mix of traditional shamans and also like a scientific institute is there who are like studying it. And that's like the ideal.

[A]

Oh, that's perfect.

[B]

Yeah. I want to be. I want some people in. I want someone in like a feathered sort of robe and a rattle and like fire and spirits being like, I'm a wizard. And I also want someone in a white lab coat with a CPR qualification.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And like an airlift out of their way for me. I've always had quite a few mushrooms, but I'm going to do them in like the car park outside of an

[A]

A and E,

[B]

just in case with

[A]

like an armband that has your name

[B]

and your address, everything filled out and like an overnight pajamas.

[A]

This is why we're friends. We're not going to do it at a party. That was.

[B]

Yeah. No. Oh my God, no. No, I want to.

[A]

We're ready to do it.

[B]

Yeah, I'm going to do it. But like.

[A]

Cuz I want to do ayahuasca. But like what I want to do it to. I want something to unlock in my brain. I feel like I've done so much therapy and I feel like I have gone into every single nook and cranny in my brain I can possibly go to without any kind of medicine or drug. And I feel like if there was a drug that could open a door to a new room where like I could then poke around in there.

[B]

And I think it's interesting to like experience because it's still your body and your mind. So how interesting to be like, oh, let me experience some things that this body is capable of that I'm not capable of accessing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To just experience some emotions and some states that's like. Oh, but without it being the level of like lsd, acid stuff where it's. Is that going to mess you up and like you never come back and you sort of twitch in weird forever. Don't want that.

[A]

It's not about escaping reality. It's about going even further into something that's real.

[B]

But not in a way that's going to make me a real bore at parties.

[A]

I think, I think that you can't have one without the other. As soon as you've done ayahuasca universe, man. But you become annoying.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The most cool people in the world. Will Smith's biography is so good. Until he does ayahuasca. And then it's just like the rest of the book is a story of the 40 stories of the 40 times he's done.

[B]

I mean you become enlightened, like someone's done it. Jesus did it and the Buddha did it.

[A]

Did they do ayahuasca?

[B]

Yeah, I think so. Like after that it's like it's been said, it's been done. What? Yeah. Oh, you just discovered that we're all one and we need to love each other. Great.

[A]

That's why my friend Casper, who wrote a book, a Danish book about doing ayahuasca he just started throwing up. Then he started himself and then he felt really sick and like nothing else happened. That's what I like.

[B]

But at least he had a good sick and shit.

[A]

He had a really good shit.

[B]

You'd walk away being like, I am so empty. I've been purged.

[A]

Sometimes that's what you need.

[B]

Sometimes you just need to, like, empty out and just start again. I've had some really bad meals lately, and now I'm nice and empty.

[A]

So you didn't. You're not like a night. You weren't like a nightclub party.

[B]

Oh, yeah, of course I was.

[A]

What?

[B]

You were. Of course not. Look at me.

[A]

Oh, you have beached hair. Isn't that.

[B]

I have bleached hair in a different way.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

I went to a few. I would still go to, like, maybe on an annual basis, a club. And it would be on, like, a friend's birthday and it would be something slightly more wholesome, like a themed, like going to, like, a gay bar where they're doing a Kate Bush night.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

That kind of vibe. But, yeah, I've never really. I did it a little bit. I never loved it. Clubbing, uninvited drugs.

[A]

I like that. Yeah, I think I like that about you.

[B]

I tried weed a couple of times and it never felt like it really did anything. And I've never done any others.

[A]

I did the brownie, wheat brownie. And I slept for so long, it was so good. One brownie woke up.

[B]

Let's try that. Like an edible. People do all those gummies now, don't they?

[A]

I used to do the gummies, but that's not. I mean, I don't know if it was the same gummies I did.

[B]

Like cbd.

[A]

No, that was the ones. Those are the ones that.

[B]

Proper weird ones. I don't know.

[A]

But I would also just do gummies without the weed. And that's. It would make me as happy, I think.

[B]

And just some nice.

[A]

Just some sugar.

[B]

Just some nice chewy sweets.

[A]

Oh, I like. But you. So ayahuasca. Mushrooms.

[B]

Mushrooms. Maybe like half of a mdma.

[A]

Yes, yes.

[B]

Because again, it's about feeling. Oh, it's like immense compassion and love and sort of humor and that's like a nice thing. I don't want to do, like, Coke where it's like, oh, I think I'd like to feel annoying and angry now. Like, what?

[A]

Yeah, The. The one Coke I did was not fun. It's not fun. I felt really pathetic.

[B]

One coke.

[A]

One coke. One coke. And it was with Sean McLaughlin. Comedian Sean McLaughlin. And I kept. They didn't want me. They didn't. They didn't like my vibe because I kept saying, ooh, we're doing coke. Wow. Like in the movies. Wow.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And I was like, oh, my God. You're doing the thing with the card where you're, like, dividing it into things.

[B]

That's something I think is really upsetting about. It is. I think you and I would both be people who would flourish at the chopping and organizing of the coke.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think I'd really enjoy that.

[A]

I wouldn't like using my credit card.

[B]

I'd use someone else's credit card.

[A]

No, I would buy something specific. Oh, a nice little gold something.

[B]

Yeah. And it's, like, glamorous. The old days when people used to have their little pocket mirror and that's what they did their coke on. That shit. I'm all over.

[A]

Yeah. The accessories to the drugs.

[B]

I could swear so have been 50s, 60s housewife, hates her fucking husband.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Has, like. Makes the kids a strawberry milk for, like, lunch and then makes one herself with gin in it and drinks some uppers while she's doing it. And then, like, hoovers the fuck out of her house.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That I could have gotten better.

[A]

I wish. I wish I could drink wine. I wish I was into wine because I love the idea of, like, when I cook with wine, I would love to just pour an extra glass of red and then walk around drinking wine wearing, like, a. An apron. But I just don't really like the taste and I don't really need. I don't want to get drunk.

[B]

Can I tell you a joke?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I love cooking with wine. Sometimes I add food.

[A]

Oh. People can't hear how much I'm laughing.

[B]

I can't wait to age into the sort of person whose kitchen is covered in that.

[A]

You have the personality. You just need the signs.

[B]

I just need a husband, and then I can fill that fucking house. You do need a husband.

[A]

Why do you think.

[B]

Why do you think I haven't got one?

[A]

Why do you think no one left you? What is it about your specific personality?

[B]

Oh, God,

[A]

You've done a lot.

[B]

I burst into tears.

[A]

No, I like that. Nice to see. Just a little. So you have some humanity, some human emotion.

[B]

I think people are intimidated.

[A]

I think so. You're famous and, like, hot and just bleak funny.

[B]

I genuinely think comedy doesn't help.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think it helps straight men.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I think women see someone doing comedy and they go, that's so sexy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I Think straight men see women and gay men see each other and go, yeah, well, not even. But like for everyone else, we are going up on stage and putting on the silliest parts of ourselves and also the most tragic and embarrassing stories. And like, I don't think I always avoid saying comedian when I'm on a dating app. If they ask what I do, I'm like, I'm working on some writing projects right now. Yeah. Because I don't, like, I don't. I'll tell you on the first day, but I don't want you to go before our first date and see me doing videos where I'm pretending to be a middle aged woman going, darling, hello, darling, my daughter. Like, that's not sexy.

[A]

No.

[B]

Let me put on. Let me show you that I'm capable of being fuckable. And then I'll show you my silly side.

[A]

Yes. And I also will say to any straight women or just anyone fancying straight male comedians, because I think what we fall for is that we think it feels safe because that we think they're showing us their, like, worst sides, but they're being really charming about it. And also they're being really funny about it. But then you learn that they are not showing who they really are, they're showing who they want you to think they are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then that becomes a lot less attractive because what you're seeing is someone who's learned a script that is like, how am I most likable? I'll just repeat this.

[B]

You're seeing the serial killer in action.

[A]

Yeah. Did I tell you? Oh, God, it's so horrible. I saw one of my favorite comedian, like a Danish comedian. I saw him before I started, like way way before I started doing stand up. And I said, oh, he did all these jokes about, oh, I'm single and like, I can't find a partner, I can't find a girlfriend and no girlfriend wants me. Like, there's no. I'm just so unpopular. But like, people just think I'm ugly. And I was. But I think you're beautiful. So I sent him a Facebook message being like, I'm such a big fan and you know I would date you, you know, if you ever, if you're looking for someone to date, I date you. I just think you're so hot and so funny. Like, don't believe, don't believe what they've told you because, like, you're so hot and you're so handsome. And then. Cut. Forgot about that. Cut to a few years later. I was doing Stand up in Denmark. He was the host at the MC of an open mic. So I had to send him a message. I was like, oh, hello, I would like to ask for a spot on this date. I would like to do. Just do five minutes. I mean, you can be sensit. And then the old message popped up from a couple of years before, from

[B]

when you were a group from where I was like.

[A]

And I was like, trying to be different in that one. So I was like. It was like to go out for a cup of chai tea, because I just learned about chai tea.

[B]

And that was so cool then.

[A]

It was so cool. And then he. I could do nothing but, like, wait till he'd seen it and then could scroll up. And at that point, I knew him and I knew he was bathing in. He had so many women just sitting across his crotch. Like, it was so embarrassing to see my old self believing the. That he went up on stage and pretended to be.

[B]

Yeah. Buying into it. But everyone does. Everyone does because they don't know what they're like.

[A]

They don't know what they're like. But it's all lies. It's all lies.

[B]

Lies. It's a palace of lies.

[A]

Yeah. Apart from us. We say the truth on stage and we're being true. I am being myself on stage. But I have. I have more layers. We all have more layers.

[B]

You're wearing a lovely cardigan.

[A]

It's the biggest cardigan. It's so.

[B]

You are. You have a lovely cardigan and your hands have not emerged from those long sleeves all day. And it's very. Pick me girl.

[A]

It's so pick me girl. I like it. Oh, no, I'm just.

[B]

I'm just like.

[A]

I was used to be such a pick me.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like the worst.

[B]

I was a pick me gay, which is so bad. Well, like, being like. I don't know why we need pride.

[A]

Were you, like, anti, like, spirituality back then?

[B]

No. I had my Richard Dawkins phase, as every male on this planet does.

[A]

I did. Yeah. As a pick me girl. I had a male phase.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But not. I have always been absolutely desperate to be a powerful wizard. So definitely, always open to that. But, like, definitely to, like, organize religion. I can fucking tweets of me being like, if you're religious in any way, unfollow me now because. Shut up. So embarrassing. Do you ever read. When did you join Twitter?

[A]

Oh, it must have been almost immediately.

[B]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

It must have been 2010.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And I. Which when I was. I think I was 15, maybe 14. I was like, as early as it's possible to have got on Twitter. I was.

[A]

Well, you're also so much younger than me.

[B]

So much younger.

[A]

You are. You're 31. Yeah, I'm 37. So much younger. Yeah, that's really young.

[B]

But when I was on it, like, I scroll back to like my earliest tweets. I'm like, who are you? Who are you? Not in the sense of like, oh, you posted so many young dumb things. No, I was posting things like the most boring middle aged man. This is. This is verbatim. Here's my tweet of the day at that age. Took my laptop to get fixed by the lovely men at PC World. Toasted Twister from KFC on the way home. Lovely stuff.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

That's who I was.

[A]

What?

[B]

That was me being like authoring a wonderful little message for the day.

[A]

Who is that? Were you wearing like a hat? Like a cab?

[B]

More insulting than. Were you wearing a hat? Yeah, literally, like my fedora. Yeah. Lovely stuff. Oh, no. I like, how awful is that? Oh, God, how awful. Who are like. I'm like, I can't believe. Like a totally different life form. I can't believe that was me.

[A]

No, that's true.

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

Oh. Oh, God.

[B]

Lovely stuff. No toaster Twister on the way home. Lovely stuff.

[A]

God, I'm so happy because I was. Because you were so young. I was six years older than you, so I was 21 or something. 21, 22. It's still bad, but not that bad. Yeah, I would not want to. Oh my God. Oh my God. I. Oh, it makes me feel sick. Like I would do. It was all just these like, okay, so this is where I do. Because I was also anti religion. Very anti religion because. Oh, you think a man is sitting on a cloud? Oh, you're idiot. But then we went on with religion, like in our school, on the, with the religion class. We went to Berlin and we had to visit all the big, like a mosque and the Catholic church and what's it called? The Jewish one, a synagogue and one other, a Protestant church or something. And then we had to, you know, we're being shown around or we had to like speak to like a priest or something. And I was the biggest cunt. Like we were sitting this like, imam, this beautiful, wonderful imam was like explaining Islam to us and like how things worked in the mosque. And I was like the only one putting up my hand, being like, but how can you prove that God is real? And these beautiful Men spent so much time trying to explain to me why they believed and like, what they believed in. They're like, well, I can, I can believe that Allah exists because I see every morning the flowers births from the ground. And because. And I was like, well, that's just nature.

[B]

Well, that could be explained.

[A]

That could be explained by evolution, actually.

[B]

I believe in empirical evidence over things. Just because you think you're Sky Daddy.

[A]

I was such a. Even my religious teachers were like, well, I calm the fact down.

[B]

I hear that you don't like that thing, but are you wearing mixed fabrics? Because if you are, then actually.

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

One thing I, One thing I hold dear is that I. Whatever else is going horribly wrong. I do think I'm becoming less insufferable with age. And you might be listening to that going, that can't possibly be true. But it is, Trust me.

[A]

It was worse.

[B]

It was so much worse. Like, I'm so much more just like, oh my God. Just living that love.

[A]

My God. Some of my first, like jokes were all about how much women sucks. But like, I'm special.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Women don't get jokes. Women are not funny.

[B]

Oh my God. I used to. I spent so much time trying to be a certain type of gay and trying to sort of like sneer at other types of gay when I was them and just being like, like, even. Even really, it's so recent. The first Queer Eye of the new seasons, that. Of the new. The new version that came out. I remember Jonathan Van Ness rubbing me up the wrong way. I mean, like, ugh.

[A]

It's internalized stuff though.

[B]

Yeah. But within like two or three episodes I was like, do you know what? They are like, so themselves and they give a. Yeah. About little weasel 23 year old me or whatever I was at that point. So actually get over yourself.

[A]

But I think that's it. Like when we do feel this like, ugh about other people, we're really feeling something ugh about ourselves.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Like, it's so. It's so still, often I have to like address a feeling within me and go, is this a thing that's actually in existence annoying? Or is it something that I'm interpreting as being annoying because it's something I'm

[B]

desperately trying to fix within myself.

[A]

Something I want to happen to me. Or like, it's something I hate about myself or something I wish I was

[B]

or I did once and learn otherwise.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now I'm like furious that someone else is doing it.

[A]

Oh, it hurts. So there was this quote I found On Instagram, which was something like, how dare you forget who taught you the thing you're now being self righteous about?

[B]

That should be a tattoo. We should all have to like co sign that before we're allowed outside.

[A]

It's all insecurity the whole way around.

[B]

So sad.

[A]

God. Some of the sort of. The worst thing is when it's written down. Like the po. We talked in the last episode about romance and I remembered I was so in love with this guy Lesser on my, like, boarding school. Oh, he was so. He was so beautiful. And he. He played music and I was writing poems about him because I was so in love with him. He was so funny. And then one day I said to him, like, oh, I've written these songs. Like, I would love for you to put, like music to them. And then he was like, yeah, come by my room later. And then I came by with my poems and he'd like written a song and he was like singing this song, but it was like a song about him that I'd written. So he was like singing a song about himself that I'd written about him. I just remember one of the lyrics was when you. When you. When your brown eyes tell me I should stop pretending I let my guard down and pray for a happy ending.

[B]

That's not bad. Hey, that's quite good.

[A]

Okay. He now works for the Danish BBC and he's like a constant thing in, like my professional life is all I think of when I see his name. I'm like, when you're brown. I just sat there and I just thought, this is the most romantic, most beautiful moment in my life. He's like singing the song. He doesn't even know. I think he knew. I think it was incredibly obvious.

[B]

Yeah. More than the fact that he came and sang it. It's a little something there.

[A]

He was very sweet. He had dimples.

[B]

That's nice.

[A]

I do like a dimple.

[B]

Yeah, me too. I, you know, I quite like when there's just one. Sometimes people just have one.

[A]

Oh, that's cute.

[B]

Endearing.

[A]

No, I think as many as possible. 4, 5, 6. I like a chin dimple.

[B]

Yeah. When just their whole face looks like one of those bat sofa that we're sitting next to. A Chesterfield, if you want to Google it. A Chesterfield sofa. Yeah. Like a real up face.

[A]

No, I like, like. I like. Yeah, I like a messed, messed up face. I like a scar.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

What do you call these? The one that Joaquin Phoenix had.

[B]

Sophie's pointing at her teeth. Just so you know.

[A]

I'm Lifting up my lip scar. No, that's not what it's called. Joaquin Phoenix has it. The thing where the lift goes like this.

[B]

A scar.

[A]

It's not called a scar.

[B]

A cleft lip.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's not a cleft lip, though.

[A]

What's it?

[B]

What do you mean? Well, cleft lip is where your lip. It's like a. God, what's the word? Babies will be born with it and. Yeah, we'll know. It's like, where this bit connects up to there. Hasn't Joaquin Phoenix just.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Got a scar that makes his lip kind of like, cinch up a bit.

[A]

Isn't it called. No, it's. I know it's called. In Denmark, it's called, like, ha, something.

[B]

Oh, Haskell.

[A]

No, Haskell.

[B]

Like a hair lip.

[A]

I don't know. Hair lip. Not a thin lip, not a white lip. Does that call something? Look up Joaquin Phoenix lip thing.

[B]

Joaquin Phoenix lip thing.

[A]

What's it called?

[B]

Oh, he does have. It's a microform cleft lip.

[A]

A microform cleft lip.

[B]

Oh, my God. Because Google does AI overviews now. I've searched Joaquin Phoenix lip thing, and it says the speech marks. Lip thing on Joaquin Phoenix. Oh, no, It's a cleft lip that's been fixed, so now it's a scar.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

But a cleft lip is like. Doesn't look like that. That's it fixed. So it's a scar now.

[A]

Oh, so it used to look, like, different.

[B]

Well, it would have gone up into, like, his nostril and just inside of his.

[A]

I can't imagine that.

[B]

I'm going to show you a cleft flip.

[A]

Show me Original Joaquin Phoenix original.

[B]

It's like that when it's.

[A]

Oh, that's fine too. I mean, it doesn't look nice. It doesn't look comfortable.

[B]

But then. Yeah, yeah, they stitch it, so it's like they fix it.

[A]

Oh, I see. So it starts out.

[B]

It starts out as, like, a hole.

[A]

Oh, ouch. That sounds so painful.

[B]

And then they stitch it and then

[A]

you have the thing.

[B]

I think it's quite easy.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And then. So I mean, like this.

[A]

Oh, little baby.

[B]

So then they fix it. And then you have a scarf.

[A]

Oh, okay. So the scar are like. Well, don't mind.

[B]

Or, you know, it's your preference.

[A]

Yeah, if it's there, it's fine.

[B]

Sophie likes a cleft. This was what I was saying. Some fucked up stuff. If you delve into Sophie, I think

[A]

it's nice to have, like, a little special thing.

[B]

Yeah, I love a little scar on Someone.

[A]

Yeah, a little scar, but that's so

[B]

the classic crooked something. The sexy. Oh, could anyone ever love me when I'm a beast? With a scar like this? And it's like the most aesthetically beautiful little scar through the eyebrow or like a little birthmark that's just like red in the shape of.

[A]

No, don't get me started on Phantom of the Opera. Do not get me started on Phantom of the Opera where in the book he has no nose.

[B]

That's what I want.

[A]

There is an open gap into his face. His eyes are so far into his head, he can't see out of them. He's like. He. He barely has a jaw because the. Like, he is like, genuinely, like, his whole face looks like. But then like in the movies, it's Clive Owen or whatever wearing, like, you know, who has, like, what, like one little tiny, like, bump under his one eye or whatever, and they're like. Oh, no, no, don't get. No, no. It is a wonderful, beautiful story because when. When Phantom was a child and was named Eric, by the way, he bet. Oh, my God. In the book. I can't. His mother hates him so much. It's so sad. So then for his birthday, she goes. He's told by the priest, the local priest, that it's his birthday, and he doesn't even know what a birthday is. He's like five or six years old. He doesn't know what a birthday is because she hasn't celebrated him once.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then she says to him, okay, fine, you have a birthday. What do you want? And then he goes away, he thinks about it, then he comes back and she says, okay, do you know what you want? He goes, can I have two? And she's like, are you kidding me? What is it? He goes, can I have two? She goes, what is. And he goes, I would like a hug. One for now and one for later.

[B]

Oh, my heart. Oh, that's very sad.

[A]

Everything. I've read that book like, a million times, by the way. I don't think it's the official book. I think it's like fan fiction about fanfiction. But it's Susan something. It was really good. And like every.

[B]

Sarandon wrote that.

[A]

Susan something.

[B]

Susan Sarandon wrote that. Wow.

[A]

It is beautiful. It describes his whole childhood, why he is the way he is. He runs away, joins the circus, and how he ends up getting those, like, kind of special powers, sort of. So then at the end, when he's butter that kisses Christina, she kisses him. It's the first time he's ever been. He kisses one girl at one point who's like, he. He's like. He's young and she's young, and then he kisses her, and then she gets so scared, she. She looks at him, like, without the mask, and she falls and dies. Which is another reason why when Christine kisses him voluntarily, he's just like, oh, this is the first time he's been seen as a human because his mother wouldn't even hug him.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

So stop giving him a nose.

[B]

Want to fuck his cleft lip, obviously

[A]

inside of his nose hole so hard. Because he sings so good.

[B]

Oh, he does sing good things.

[A]

Good.

[B]

Yeah. Where do we go with that?

[A]

Well, we have to probably end the episode.

[B]

I think we can.

[A]

Unless you have any kind of opinions about Phantom of the Opera.

[B]

It's not my favorite. I think it's okay. It has some good songs. I'm not an Andrew Lloyd Webber fan.

[A]

No, no, no. What other.

[B]

What's he done that's good?

[A]

Well, then there's, of course.

[B]

Was he involved in Hunchback?

[A]

I don't think so.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

But there's Love Never Dies, the sequel. The Phantom of the Opera.

[B]

The sequel that no one asked for.

[A]

It's kind of good. I mean, not the story. Ignore the story. Ignore the story. Doesn't make sense. Eric would never do what he did at the end. But the. The. The. The confrontation between Raul and him. So fun.

[B]

Anything to do with Hunchback?

[A]

I don't think so, but that's a guess.

[B]

No, I didn't think he did.

[A]

Is this sond time? I know nothing. This is so embarrassing.

[B]

No, he didn't. He. He did Cats. That's dreadful.

[A]

Yeah, that's dreadful.

[B]

What else has he done?

[A]

Oh, God, I don't know. No one knows. Les Mis is not him, is it?

[B]

No, I just don't like his thing. But Phantom, I. Yeah, I like when the. When the thing drops. Masquerade.

[A]

No. Now I'll have to pay someone for some rights to something. God, Andrew, get out of my DMs. Thank you very much. Where can people find your stuff? Where can people listen to your stuff and go and see.

[B]

Search for Daniel Fox with two X's and there I will be. I am everywhere.

[A]

You're everywhere.

[B]

I'm on. I'm on every platform, so come and get me. Apart from Twitter, don't scroll back to my earliest tweets. I think that's humiliating. Oh, my God.

[A]

Thank you so much.

[B]

Thank you, thank you. Thank you for letting me in.

[A]

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