Funkopopification | Son of a Boy Dad #425

Summary

Son of a Boy Dad #425: "Funkopopification"

Release Date: August 6, 2026
Hosts/Guests: Lil Sasquatch (Sean), Rone, Francis

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Episode Overview

This episode finds the "Son of a Boy Dad" crew—Sean (Lil Sasquatch), Rone, and Francis—exploring a wild assortment of everyday grievances, pop culture debates, and New York adventures. The show jumps from blue-collar heroics and Funko Pop-body critique, to rants on credit cards, social surveillance, weed laws, and the strange physics of professional tennis. Throughout, the trio mix irreverent humor and self-aware banter, keeping things light even when wrestling with deeper social, political, and existential questions.

Their main theme: navigating adulthood in a world that’s constantly changing (and increasingly weird), leaning on each other for perspective, and processing how “manliness,” technology, and culture are shifting.

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Key Discussion Points & Memorable Moments

1. NYC Blue Collar Moment: Francis Joins the Trash Men

• [01:35] Francis recounts his morning, unloading trash with sanitation workers after getting stuck in traffic.
  • "I saved us five minutes by helping." (Francis, 03:19)
  • "They weren't wearing masks, so I thought, well, then Fouchy's a liar." (Rone, 03:00)
• Crew jokes about blue-collar life and gaining the respect of construction workers.
  • “I’ve always been attracted to… working class, man. And if I can get a little dose of it, it just helps me feel a little less bad about how my life is.” (Rone, 05:19)

2. Credit Cards, Debits, and Financial Responsibility

• [10:07] Roan passionately extols the virtues of credit cards and roast Sean for using debit at 7-Eleven.
  • "He's punching in his fucking pin code for a $0.67 water!" (Roan, 12:04)
• Francis and Roan interrogate Sean’s stubborn financial habits, with Sean defending his "all-liquid" approach.

3. Are Russia and Israel Enemies? And Why Do Americans Respect Russia?

• [14:17] The group unpacks a seemingly simple question about foreign affairs.
  • “[Russia and Israel] maintain a cautious coexistence defined by pragmatic risk management…” (Roan, 14:57)
• They riff on movie villains, how Russia is always cast as a “worthy adversary” (“From Russia with Love,” “Rocky,” "Top Gun"), with comic asides about Hollywood’s avoidance of real countries.
  • "They had to do, like... Princess Diaries that shit." (Francis, 18:40)

4. Tour Guide Insult & Gendered Work Advice

• [19:11] Francis is devastated when his wife suggests he should be a tour guide upon retiring—seen as a layered insult.
  • “That’s a lasagna of affront to me…” (Francis, 20:02)
• [20:39] Rone relays advice to staff one's industry team with women for their work ethic, only to humorously contradict himself on air.

5. Spider-Man’s Apartment & ‘FunkoPopification’ of Hollywood

• [22:19] Joking about Marvel heroes living in implausibly swank NYC apartments, and what superheroes would actually do for side hustles.
  • “If you have a superpower, you could probably find some cash…” (Sean, 22:39)
• [31:17] The Ozempic craze leads to the episode’s title: “the FunkoPopification of Hollywood,” critiquing bobble-head physiques seen on celebrities.
  • “A lot of people are all drawn like… one of those pop toys… FunkoPopification of Hollywood because of the Zim [Ozempic].” (Francis, 31:17)

6. Weight Loss, Drugs, and Health Culture Hot Takes

• [32:49] Contrast between Ozempic and Adderall as society’s go-to “shortcuts,” and skepticism over BMI as a metric.
  • “The healthy way to lose weight is obvious… diet and exercise.” (Roan, 33:36)
  • “I don’t care what people put in their body.” (Francis, 35:12)

7. Smoking: Cigarettes, Weed, and the Allure of Vice

• [37:13] Discussion about the normalized “performative” act of posting cigarette selfies, and the rise of weed surpassing cigarettes and alcohol in popularity.
  • “Posting photos smoking weed, I view that as bum behavior.” (Sean, 37:56)
• Imagining future trends—smoking vegetables, vaping beer.

8. TV and Movie Habits: Cable as Dopamine Reset

• [48:55] A passionate defense of TV channel-surfing as an analog “dopamine reset.”
  • “It is a truly sublime feeling to click into something on cable and to pull the blanket up to your chin.” (Francis, 49:06)
• A side debate about the right (and wrong) places to put TV screens in the house, leading to “carabification” (wall-to-wall screens).

9. Eating Out in NYC: Michelin, Bib Gourmand, and Food Snobbery

• [54:35] Explaining the Michelin ranking system and debating personal favorites (For Charles, Le Bernardin).
  • “Four Charles should have five stars.” (Sean, 55:54)
  • “Wine is way more of a scam than this.” (Francis, 58:15)

10. Surveillance, Flock Cameras, and Personal Liberties

• [74:47+] Jokes and anxieties around “flock cameras”—automated surveillance tech for license plates and beyond.
  • “I have no idea. Anyone who’s pro flock camera is compromised.” (Sean, 74:32)
  • “A flock camera is an automated license plate reader… but it’s not just capturing cars, it’s capturing human images and using data…” (Francis, 75:00)
  • Imagining a surveillance state run by animatronic Waka Flocka clones.

11. Rap Beefs, Social Media, and Sober Listening

• [64:02+] Following J. Cole’s recent beef, the role of therapists in rap, and which of the “Big 3” (Drake, Kendrick, Cole) holds up.
  • “I think Kendrick’s probably my goat right now.” (Sean, 68:11)
  • "Drake’s new stuff doesn’t do it for me like the old stuff did." (Sean, 67:38)
• They affectionately tease each other for changing music tastes after quitting weed.

12. Tennis vs. Golf: Which Is Harder?

• [86:51+] Extensive debate about the brutal difference between hobbyists and professionals in sports.
  • "If I played Novak Djokovic… I might win one point per game." (Roan, 88:11)
  • Relating experiences in video games to sports skill gaps.

13. The Value of Opinions & Tuning Out News

• [78:03] Rone proudly claims he’s stopped obsessing over the news—his opinions have dissipated with his media consumption.
  • “I just hope that nobody takes a single thing I say seriously.” (Roan, 78:27)

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Notable Quotes by Segment

• Francis on Tour Guide Insult:
  “That’s a lasagna of affront to me…” [20:02]
• Roan on Masculinity and Seeking Community:
  “I’ve always been attracted to… working class, man. And if I can get a little dose of it, it just helps me feel a little less bad about how my life is.” [05:19]
• Sean on FunkoPop Bodies:
  “A lot of people are all drawn like… one of those pop toys.” [31:17]
• Francis on Credit Cards:
  “He’s punching in his fucking pin code for a $0.67 water!” [12:04]
• Roan on Social Media Outrage:
  “Run, don’t walk.” [60:37] (mocking influencer food recs)
• Francis on Dopamine and TV:
  “It is a truly sublime feeling to click into something on cable and to pull the blanket up to your chin.” [49:06]
• Sean on Surveillance:
  “Anyone who’s pro flock camera is compromised.” [74:32]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:35] Francis’s blue-collar trash adventure
• [10:07] The great credit vs. debit card debate
• [14:17] “Are Russia and Israel enemies?” (foreign policy riff)
• [19:11] Wife's “tour guide” jab and work-life gender advice
• [22:19] Spider-Man, housing, and superhero side hustles
• [31:17] FunkoPopification & Ozempic culture
• [32:49] Adderall vs. Ozempic: the quick fix debate
• [37:13] Smoking trends: cigs, weed, and absurdity
• [48:55] Cable TV nostalgia as dopamine reset
• [54:35] Michelin vs. food reality: restaurant rankings in NYC
• [74:47] Flock cameras and debates on privacy
• [64:02] The Big 3 in rap: Kendrick vs. Drake vs. Cole, and "sober rap"
• [86:51] Professional vs. amateur skill gap (sports & gaming)
• [78:03] The value (or non-value) of opinions in today's news cycle

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Episode Tone & Language

• Casually explicit, often self-deprecating, irreverent, and quick-witted
• Heavy use of inside jokes and extended analogies
• Frequent, knowing breaks in the fourth wall—reminding listeners not to take their “serious” debates too seriously

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Summary Takeaways

• At its best, this episode is a group-therapy session for aimless young men, dissecting everything from cultural aesthetics (FunkoPopification) and social surveillance, to credit cards, fitness shortcuts, and why you should never use your debit card at 7-Eleven.
• Social critique runs throughout but always with a heavy dose of absurdist humor ("Waka Flocka cameras" as nationwide surveillance), pop culture deep dives, and personal anecdotes about New York malaise.
• Friendship and self-reflection are front-and-center, balancing fun with fleeting moments of earnest introspection.

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This episode is a must for fans of observational comedy, guy-talk podcasts, and anyone navigating adulthood with a sense of ironic detachment and humor.

Transcript

[Francis]

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[Sean]

Alrighty. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy Dad Podcast. Today it is August 4th. It is 11:30am and we are here live from HQ.

[Francis]

Francis is overheated.

[Sean]

Francis is overheating.

[Francis]

It's just.

[Roan]

It's insane to me. We're the one room in the entire New York City office that just for whatever reason does not have air conditioning or air at all of any kind.

[Sean]

I'm still. We're breathing in the same air that we left with yesterday, bro.

[Roan]

I'm tired of it. I've brought it up.

[Sean]

Look at that hat.

[Francis]

What are you talking about?

[Sean]

We sell those.

[Francis]

There's a reason why Francis is overheated.

[Sean]

That's a beautiful hat.

[Francis]

We said Francis was driving me in today.

[Sean]

What the hell is this? What the is this?

[Francis]

We're stopped in traffic.

[Sean]

What the is this?

[Francis]

We're. We're stuck behind a garbage truck and they have to unload a full construction site worth of from a dumpster.

[Sean]

So he helped.

[Francis]

Francis popped out and for a cool 10 minutes was loading looking tra trash cans that were full of like building material, like drywall, cinder box, like plywood. And he was just sweating bringing everything in. It was no wonder you're overheated. You just burned 300 calories. Like lifting 400 pound trash cans.

[Roan]

One, the trash cans were way heavier than I was expecting them to be. Two, I totally Underestimated the amount of dust and asbestos. Oh, yeah, that would be swirling. They weren't wearing masks. So I thought, well, then Fouchy's a liar. Yeah. I really. I mean, I saved us five minutes by helping.

[Sean]

Yeah, I really did.

[Roan]

I saw how much they had to. To load, and there was no way around them. And I was like, all right, obviously, I'm going to help. But what was so funny was that at that very intersection, there were other cars stuck.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Were two construction workers across the street in hard hats watching. And then there was a truck, one of those big bed moving trucks with three guys in the cab watching. And when I got back into my car after helping, all of them were like. Everyone was like, cool, man. Way to help out.

[Francis]

You know, like holding the collar of their shirt. Blue collar.

[Sean]

Blue collar.

[Francis]

Like us. And that's all. So.

[Roan]

Boy, I've always also wanted to throw trash into those. Trash.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Roan]

And watch the.

[Sean]

Have a little attitude while you're doing it. Yeah, it's really. Just send it in there.

[Roan]

Yeah, Just throw it. Yeah. And it's funny because initially they were like, we'll throw it in. And then eventually they were like, you're one of us.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Yeah, go ahead.

[Sean]

You should have been like, what time's lunch? Yeah. You got a.

[Roan]

What's the injury pay?

[Francis]

Like, on this fucking gig? We get overtime.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Is that.

[Sean]

Did they. Did you say anything when you went out? Like, were you just like, do you guys care if I help or did you start moving?

[Roan]

I said, it'll go faster if I help. And they're like, if you want.

[Francis]

They were all smaller than him.

[Sean]

Oh, of course.

[Francis]

They all had curlier hair than him.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You know what I mean?

[Sean]

Yeah. Mexicans.

[Roan]

The best part of it was when there was one trash can that was so heavy that I carried it with a guy.

[Sean]

Oh, really?

[Roan]

He took a handle, and I took

[Francis]

footage of that as well.

[Sean]

Did you guys, like. Was there, like, fist bumps or anything at the end?

[Roan]

There was a fist bump.

[Sean]

Love that.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Sean]

That's great. Great, Great sense of community in the city today.

[Roan]

I. I've always been attracted to men.

[Sean]

Of course.

[Francis]

Working men.

[Roan]

Masculine specifically, you know, working class, man. And if I can get a little dose of it, it just helps me feel a little less bad about how my life is.

[Sean]

I. Do you guys think. Do you think those guys have any thoughts the way that. Like, negative thoughts the way that we do, or do you think it's just

[Francis]

grabbing it together?

[Roan]

Oh,

[Sean]

That's insane.

[Francis]

The cloud of dust yeah, it got really thick.

[Roan]

I could. I was like, ugh, I have asthma, Sean.

[Francis]

I'm air dropping a T. Right.

[Sean]

You can't let them know that.

[Roan]

No, I couldn't let them know that, but I'm just. I knew within five minutes that. That life wasn't for me due to my health concerns.

[Sean]

I feel like those guys, like, they probably hate their jobs. Realistically, I don't know, maybe they don't. But like, I feel like a job like that, like you get home and you just pass the fuck.

[Roan]

Bingo.

[Sean]

Sleep like a baby.

[Roan]

Exactly.

[Sean]

I need that.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Sean]

I might have to pick up a side gig.

[Francis]

Trash. Trash sanitation.

[Sean]

Yeah, sanitation.

[Roan]

Part time.

[Francis]

Trash sanitation engineer. The good thing about that is that was dry trash.

[Roan]

My dad used to be a garbage man. In the summers when he was in high school or he. He would ride around on a truck on Sandy Hook, New Jersey. And they had some song that had to do with the. The juice from the Fisherman's, like, weight, you know, cast off bits and stuff. They had. They had some name for it and they had a song for it that he would sing.

[Sean]

Yeah, that shit's nasty.

[Roan]

He said it was his like favorite job ever and that he would work on holidays and they'd get like two and a half time pay or something like that. Work on the 4th of July, that is.

[Francis]

It's a good way to make money. Like if you're. If you're coming out of a tough circumstance, you just want to bust your ass. That movie Dirty Work, do you ever watch that movie Dirty Work? Emilio Estevez.

[Sean]

No, I know it. I haven't seen it though.

[Francis]

It's a classic.

[Roan]

I guess my point is that like, trash runs in my blood.

[Sean]

Yeah, trash through and through.

[Roan]

If all of this disappears, which I expect it will, some barstool. Not barstool, like the New York office will. Will be washed out to the city. I will definitely go into trash.

[Sean]

Nice. All right, well, that's good. I'm glad you have that lined up. I mean, you. Did you get those guys numbers or anything? Like. No, actually. Looking for work?

[Roan]

No, I didn't.

[Francis]

Should have got a card from them.

[Roan]

What we'll do is we'll post this video with my email at the bottom.

[Sean]

That's a good idea.

[Roan]

If anyone's looking for someone who works on their lower body to.

[Francis]

Or I mean, like, they'll be back in that area.

[Roan]

They could well be.

[Francis]

Why don't we just like same, same time and place next week?

[Roan]

Yeah, because that is the. That's my crew. I. There was chemistry with them, you know, definitely. They weren't put off. They were so welcoming. Which most. If I know the trash world, it's that, you know, there's a lot of territoriality.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

But I think that, etc. So something I noticed in the four minutes the. That it. It took, like, you're going to. They were already starting to lean on you.

[Roan]

They were.

[Francis]

They were already starting to kind of take a back seat to you. They're like, oh, he's the strongest.

[Roan]

Initially, they were picking up the heavier ones. And then as soon as I showed up, they were like, clydesdale's here. Yeah, yeah, get out of his way.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

They were doing, like, kind of loose pieces, like one in each hand.

[Francis]

Leave these for the gringo. Rojo.

[Roan]

El

[Francis]

Rojo.

[Roan]

Ferdinand.

[Francis]

Yeah. That must have been like what the fucking Mayan saw when Cortez landed. Cortez have a white beard or a red beard? White beard. I thought maybe.

[Sean]

I have no idea.

[Francis]

Try to remember. Trying to remember what my boy Cortez looked like. But, yeah. That was an impressive display from Francis and he got us here faster. We would have been stuck in traffic for.

[Sean]

Why'd you guys drive?

[Roan]

Roan can't walk.

[Sean]

Oh, of course. I was thinking in my head, I'm like, I'm surprised they didn't bike. It's a pretty nice day out.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You can't bike with that.

[Francis]

I can't bike.

[Sean]

That would be. That would be really. It'd be like Forrest Gump when he breaks free from the braces.

[Roan]

Bike. Adam.

[Francis]

Yeah, I need to get chased by some bullies.

[Sean]

Speaking of Chase, I would like to clear up that Chase did not drop us. There seems to be a little bit of a misconception there. I'm glad you're saying they just ended.

[Roan]

Yeah. We had a six week presenting partnership, limited time partnership.

[Sean]

That's how all the sponsors are. They come on for a certain amount of episodes and then it's gone. And maybe they'll come back, maybe they won't.

[Roan]

You guys just thought we belonged to Chase from here till forever, or you

[Francis]

thought that we would do anything to cross our brothers at Chase. Of course. Those are our. That's our family.

[Sean]

Yeah. People were. It is like, everyone's first assumption was like, they up.

[Francis]

Well, it's because most other brands at this company will up and lose a sponsorship. That's not us.

[Sean]

No, we don't.

[Francis]

We are brand friendly.

[Roan]

Yeah. Without sponsors, we're gonna keep talking about Chase until they come back.

[Sean]

Exactly.

[Francis]

A little free ride. Yeah.

[Sean]

We Might just get the sign back up right now. Like, we want to keep it.

[Roan]

Actually, I'm closing in, I think for my preferred card. If you spend five grand in the first three months, you get a hundred thousand Chase points. Which? Man, I'll tell you, Chase points are fucking valuable. I booked that hotel in Tokyo in September. Oh, yeah, it was half off because it had this Chase points boost.

[Sean]

Damn.

[Roan]

Where the points are worth double. Truly. Like half off.

[Sean]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Roan]

I'd never seen that before.

[Sean]

I. I'll be honest. I've never used a single point and I don't even know how to find them.

[Roan]

I give up, man.

[Sean]

Yeah, I know that. Really, like, that's got to be like. That's like rage bait for you.

[Roan]

It's just like, you know, I.

[Sean]

Because, like, I've always just used like the miles and stuff. Like, I don't know where you even see the points, Roan. Well, I've also just been using a debit card instead, too. You're really r. Mostly just a debit card or cash.

[Francis]

And I'm just racking up a massive credit card bill as well that I'm refusing to pay off.

[Sean]

Francis sick.

[Francis]

He's seething. This is going to drive him to trash.

[Sean]

I think the debit card is what really. That set him over the edge. I hates the debit card.

[Roan]

I hate the debit card so fucking much.

[Sean]

I remember when I used a debit card at like 7:11 and I was with Francis and he was so mad. He was like, you have to enter in a code.

[Roan]

He had.

[Francis]

He's putting.

[Roan]

He's punching in his fucking pin code for a $67 cent water.

[Francis]

And I'm like shielding the thing so you don't look at his bank code.

[Roan]

It's just insane. Like, I, you know, I don't use it.

[Sean]

I don't use a debit card ever anymore unless I have to, you know.

[Roan]

Good.

[Francis]

It's because you shamed him.

[Roan]

I mean, I pushed for a long, long, long time. I walked him through the credit cards. Then he told me he'd gotten one. And he lied. No, he remained. You stayed on the debit card for another, like three or four months until finally your business manager came in.

[Sean]

Yeah, probably. But the debit card, I mean, it's. When you're. When you're all liquid. Debit card's great. You're just.

[Roan]

Your cash is not making. You're not making no money on your money.

[Sean]

And it.

[Francis]

And it.

[Sean]

Well, I am now. I am now. I have a business manager

[Francis]

who you're paying the same amount that you know

[Roan]

what he's earning, he's taking.

[Sean]

No, that's not true.

[Roan]

Here, why don't you just run this for me and whatever you get above the number I put in, that's yours.

[Francis]

Yeah, I want to say the same, but I. I want you to make something.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I want all my boys to eat what you're being, including my business manager.

[Francis]

You honestly, you don't talk to anybody that's not related to you or on your payroll.

[Sean]

Of course.

[Francis]

That's the only way to play.

[Sean]

I want my whole team on my payroll. Yeah, all my boys.

[Francis]

Exactly. Otherwise they're compromised.

[Sean]

Exactly.

[Francis]

Hate to see a compromised wolf.

[Sean]

Hate to see it. I just hate it. Hated compromise. What do you think Austin is? In what sense is Austin compromised? Like, is he working with Israel or Russia perhaps? Did you gotta add in Russia these days?

[Francis]

You do?

[Sean]

Yeah, it just makes it sound better.

[Francis]

It sounds less bigoted.

[Sean]

Yeah, or Russia.

[Roan]

But our. Never mind.

[Francis]

What is he working with the South Sudanese dissident groups?

[Roan]

I'm so glad. I was about to ask a really dumb question and I stopped myself.

[Francis]

Well, what's it going to be?

[Roan]

I'm not going to say.

[Francis]

We can have the joy.

[Roan]

I'm not going to say.

[Francis]

Because you didn't say it. You didn't say it.

[Sean]

You didn't say it. You stopped yourself. You addressed. It was a dumb question. So now let's hear what the question.

[Roan]

Someone I know was wondering whether or not Russia and Israel are enemies.

[Sean]

I actually have no idea. I don't know if they have any.

[Roan]

I think that they are by deep proxy because I think Russia is aligned with Iran. Is.

[Sean]

Is Russia aligned with. I thought. I thought that was China.

[Roan]

Well, Russia, China are both, I think aligned.

[Sean]

Damn.

[Roan]

Primarily with Iran. It's like whoever's against us, they're with.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah, of course. So yeah, then. No, I would say. Yeah, you're probably right. I would assume is whoever. Israel. Whoever we are against Israel is against. Vice versa. Yeah, we are one.

[Roan]

Well, this is a pretty nuanced answer. Russia and Israel are not formal enemies, but rather maintain a cautious coexistence defined by pragmatic risk management and tact deconfliction rather than a true alliance.

[Francis]

It's kind of like the Russia's at the club they get. Israel's at the club they get. It's like they're not gonna beef because like that scares away the hoods.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

So it's like as long as they just keep on.

[Sean]

That's a Great explanation. I feel like I fully understand it now.

[Francis]

So stay over there. Stay over there. Just don't fuck up the.

[Sean]

I think we can honestly just end the Israel talk on that. I think that was. I think that Roan really just hit the nail on the head there.

[Roan]

Forever.

[Sean]

Yeah, forever.

[Roan]

I think we're done.

[Sean]

We're done with Israel.

[Roan]

Yeah. I've told you. I get so many messages.

[Sean]

People don't like the Israel talk.

[Francis]

That Krav Maga is Israeli.

[Roan]

Well, that's cool.

[Sean]

That is cool. Well, I don't think people. People just don't want to hear me talk about politics, which is fine. I get it. I wouldn't want to hear myself talk about that either.

[Francis]

Well, then other people should stop talking about it, because that's all see in the world. And it's like when you keep yapping like we're regurgitation show. It's just like, I'm spitting out what I'm being fed.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You know, that's all that's happening.

[Sean]

And I'm spitting out a lot of information based on, like, reading half of a headline.

[Francis]

Right. For example, I heard that Vladimir Putin is outlawing GMOs in Russia to the point of execution.

[Sean]

Oh, wow.

[Francis]

So if you. If you put, like, a seedless watermelon in the ground in Russia.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Putin will execute. He'll kill you personally. That's a half headline.

[Sean]

They'll come to your house and kill you.

[Francis]

That I read. If they don't want me to talk about that, the algorithm should stop showing me.

[Sean]

Yeah, I agree.

[Francis]

They don't want me to regurgitate that. Putin is killing people for Monsanto adjacency.

[Sean]

Don't tell me. Yeah. You know that people. I do feel like we can still talk about Russia.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Because there's no. They don't have a religion that's, like, based around them. Russian Orthodox Christians don't have the same.

[Sean]

And we just, like. We've always had to hate Russia.

[Roan]

That's kind of just how they've been our enemies forever.

[Sean]

Yeah. Unless you're talking donk.

[Roan]

You know what? You know, it's funny about Russia is that there are enemies, but I think we are a country. I think we have this weird respect for them. Meaning you don't hear people, like, mock Russia. No, it's always like, man, those guys drink vodka and fight bears and live in Siberia and are badass.

[Francis]

They could climb to the top of any building.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Sean]

They're like.

[Roan]

They're. They're, like, scary in a way. And really, really intense. They're not like little bitches or.

[Sean]

I mean, no one, really. Yeah, you're right. No one, really. That is, like, the general opinion.

[Roan]

They've. In movies, they're always presented as worthy adversaries.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

You know, it's fucking Ivan Drago and Rocky. It's.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

From Russia with Love and James Bond. That guy who used the cord to kill him, suffocate and kill people. What's that cord called?

[Francis]

Garrotte Wire. Yes.

[Roan]

Well done.

[Francis]

Who was the. Who was the bad guy in the most recent Top Gun movie? What ethnicity were they?

[Roan]

They.

[Francis]

Were they brown?

[Sean]

Don't give it to me. Don't give it.

[Roan]

No, it's. It's. It's a. It's a fake Russia. It's. It's meant to be Russia. It's implying Russia.

[Sean]

Was it, though? I thought it was Korea or something.

[Roan]

No, no, no. It was definitely Russia because they were

[Francis]

so scared of being racist towards anybody that they had to do.

[Sean]

It's always Russia.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah. They had to do, like, Princess. In the Princess Diaries. They. They made up a country called Genovia. They're so scared. They basically. Princess Diaries. That.

[Sean]

That's like. Did you guys ever see Red Dawn?

[Francis]

No.

[Roan]

Well, that's Korea.

[Sean]

But then. Then they made another one that was Russia, I believe. Oh, there's two. Like, Josh Peck is in one of them.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

My wife said the meanest thing to me, and she wasn't even trying to be mean. She hit me with, when you retire, you should become a tour guide.

[Sean]

And I was just like, damn, it's ruthless. Why is she already thinking about your retirement?

[Francis]

Why would you. And. And it was. She was like, you just love to, like, spit out facts about stuff.

[Sean]

That's pretty much her being like, get. You got to get this out somewhere else.

[Francis]

Talk to somebody else.

[Roan]

By the way, you're never gonna stop working.

[Francis]

Yeah. She's like, you're mansplaining Earth to everybody that you encounter.

[Roan]

You will need a job for when your main job is done so that I don't have to deal with all your facts.

[Francis]

I had to, like, sit her down and explain why. That's, like, deeply insulting. On, like. That's a layer cake of insult. That's a lasagna of affront to me because there's just, like, no, that. That's.

[Sean]

That's tough.

[Francis]

So. It was so hurtful.

[Sean]

Tour guide stuff.

[Francis]

Tour guide is insane.

[Sean]

What would you be.

[Roan]

I would also say, like, you guys get along, right?

[Francis]

So why would she. So why would she take this dig at me.

[Roan]

I'm just saying I'm not that worried.

[Sean]

You should hit her with. You should just hit her with. You guys get on her back with it.

[Francis]

But this is. I mean, it put a chink in the armor for sure. Oh, yes. It's like, enough where it's like, okay, do I have to talk to Francis's guy?

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah.

[Roan]

Who's my guy?

[Francis]

Your divorce lawyer woman, was it?

[Roan]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

Really?

[Roan]

They're better.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Really?

[Roan]

Yes.

[Sean]

Like a pit bull.

[Roan]

I think women. Someone Shane was, I think. No, no, it wasn't Shane. Ricky Velez once told me. He was like, do whatever you can to surround your team with women in the industry. Like, make your team your agent, your manager. Everyone should be women because they just, like, they have a chip on their shoulder. They work harder.

[Sean]

Yeah, but you didn't do that at all.

[Roan]

No, I said I don't want. You know.

[Sean]

I know. Your agent and manager, both men.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I can't have, in the middle of a negotiation, my main person, you know, going off with period cramps.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly.

[Francis]

They might fall in love.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly.

[Roan]

That's how a deal falls apart.

[Sean]

Yeah. They're gonna want to you.

[Francis]

They're gonna have feelings for you. It's like, let's just get ahead of this. Let's dip this in the butt. Yeah.

[Sean]

It's more of a hazard than anything.

[Roan]

Oh, Lord.

[Francis]

That's smart.

[Roan]

Oh, Lord.

[Francis]

It's just. This is infuriating. It's just, like, boiling underneath my skin.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

There's two good tour guides that you can think of, and it's Vince Vaughn from that. The breakup with Jennifer Aniston.

[Sean]

What is he a tour guide of in that?

[Roan]

Buses.

[Francis]

Buses in Chicago.

[Roan]

Chicago.

[Francis]

He's very charming.

[Roan]

He and his brothers run a family

[Francis]

business and they have a sick apartment, which, like, they could never get on the tour guide salary. Let's be honest.

[Sean]

Yeah. That's a big. People are really honing in on that. Do you see those? Like, the Spider man stuff.

[Francis]

Yes.

[Sean]

How people are, like, raging online about how Spider man has, like, a nice three. He has a nice three monitor set up and a treadmill.

[Roan]

I mean, this is always the case anytime there's something set in New York City.

[Francis]

Right.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Friends forever. People were like, these loser bums.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Live in a.

[Francis]

But your point about Spider man, square foot apartment was hilarious.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You're like, he's a. He's half spider. You're worried about his apartment size. He's half spider.

[Sean]

He's literally a man who is A spider.

[Francis]

His wrists jizz rope, and he can dangle from buildings.

[Sean]

I also feel like if you have a superpower, you could probably find some cash.

[Francis]

You could finagle it. Yeah.

[Sean]

You could make some cash on the side.

[Francis]

Reach into the register before anybody noticed.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly. Or you could just. I would just be like. You could be a street performer.

[Francis]

How fast are you? Door dashing?

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, doordash would be crazy. Just.

[Francis]

Yeah, the doordash guys are probably trying to get bit by spiders.

[Roan]

Save all your colleagues from jumping off the Brooklyn Bridge.

[Sean]

Yeah, yeah,

[Roan]

No, I haven't delivered yet.

[Francis]

That would be a great. A Spider man. That. That would have been an incredible storyline for him. Like, that basically is a spider man storyline. A guy's about to jump off the Brooklyn Bridge.

[Sean]

Yeah, it is. Have you. Are you guys. Are you guys into that shit? The spider verse? No, no. I haven't really gotten into it myself either.

[Roan]

I'm too old now. That series was meant for, I think, a decidedly younger audience, I think. Spider Man 1, was that like, the Tom Holland. Yeah.

[Sean]

Really?

[Roan]

I think it's the most Disney of all the Marvel superheroes.

[Sean]

Yeah, I would agree with that.

[Roan]

And I loved the original one with Tobey Maguire.

[Sean]

That was great.

[Roan]

When I was a kid, I mean, I was obsessed with that one. That one. Spider Man 2 were both great. Spider Man 3, not so great.

[Sean]

I don't know if I remember the third.

[Francis]

Spider Man 3 turned out to, like, turn into a Fallout Boy video. Yeah, yeah, it really did. It was like they had, like, black bangs, like, going down the street. There was, like, a musical number.

[Roan]

Was that three or two?

[Francis]

Was that two? If you like two, then that speaks. That's a.

[Sean]

What's the one with the green with.

[Francis]

Really?

[Roan]

That might have been three. Which one?

[Sean]

That's one.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Yeah, that's the best one. That one's a banger. William Defoe is scary in that one.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Sean]

I used to be so scared of the Will Goblin.

[Roan]

Yeah, that.

[Francis]

That is Willem Dafoe.

[Sean]

Something new every day.

[Francis]

William.

[Sean]

I thought it was William my whole life.

[Francis]

Willem.

[Sean]

Willem Dafoe is a great actor.

[Roan]

He is a really good actor.

[Francis]

Willem is a bit of a little boy's name, though.

[Sean]

It's a little bit of a boy's.

[Roan]

A little boy. You know that meme that always comes up of him when he's like, he's gay, but he's not gay.

[Sean]

Yeah, that's a classic.

[Roan]

That's one of my favorites.

[Francis]

You know that Will. His. His dick was too big to be.

[Sean]

Yes.

[Francis]

What's this exact story? I don't remember his dick. He needed. They needed a stunt double down with a smaller dick. Yeah. Because he said his dick stuck out too much. So they just needed a tiny cocked stuntman.

[Roan]

Wow.

[Francis]

How do you even cast for that?

[Sean]

What was the movie? Antichrist.

[Francis]

You zoom in a little bit on that.

[Roan]

Enhanced his physical endowment. Was so large that it confused and distracted the cast and crew.

[Francis]

Confused?

[Roan]

What is that?

[Francis]

They're disoriented.

[Roan]

How could that be?

[Francis]

My ears are ringing. What day is it?

[Sean]

It's like that Key and Peele sketch.

[Roan]

I thought he was not supposed to have a large penis.

[Sean]

Confused is such a funny word to use. What is that?

[Roan]

I'm sorry. What are we doing today?

[Francis]

Must have been beautiful.

[Sean]

It's a good problem to have, though. Stunt double for the.

[Francis]

Well, it's a good job to get if you can. It's the best small penis job. Because they're really not a economy for the small penis.

[Sean]

It's got to be tough being the stunt double, though.

[Francis]

I don't know.

[Sean]

That's what you were just saying. That's a good job.

[Francis]

I think that. Yeah, I think that if it's like getting work in the Lollipop Guild as a little person, it's like, that's the bet. That's the best job you can get in that world.

[Sean]

I don't know if you want to be the guy that gets the call. Like, hey, we're looking for a guy with a small dick who's not going to confuse anybody.

[Francis]

You gotta let me read for this.

[Sean]

Yeah, we got Willem Defoe over here. He got them. He got the role, the lead role. And also his dick is big.

[Roan]

Yeah, the. The. The role calls for someone with a small penis. And. And then. And then what would happen is just like how people get angry when, like, they cast Bryan Cranston in a role in a wheelchair.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Roan]

The, like, crew of disability disabled or handicapped actors are like, we have so few role opportunities anyway.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And this is like, you know, it's

[Sean]

like when they cast a straight dude as a gay guy. Yeah. Yeah.

[Roan]

It's like so Hollywood, you know, it's just there's so many of us that have small dicks that could have played that role convincingly.

[Sean]

Yeah. The stunt doubles showing up and he's like, well, I mean, you know, like, I can act like this role was really, like, meant for me.

[Francis]

Yeah. But it's like going forward, that's like a Hollywood that we can hope for. It's like how back in the day people were like, white actors were in blackface. Now Willem Dafoe is in small penis.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And one day, like, we dream of an equality for small penis actors to be able to.

[Sean]

They need to start a union, you know, a small, Small. Small Dick Actors Guild.

[Francis]

Stag.

[Sean]

I'm a part of stag. Small Dick Actors Guild.

[Francis]

We're marching for stag rights. Stags on strike. It's only big dick actors working right now.

[Sean]

One thing I will say about Will was he was very respectful of my small dick. There was no. No slights.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sean]

I got in, I did my job, and he did his job. It was simple as that.

[Francis]

The yin and yang, it works perfectly together. For every big dick you see, there's, like, five small dicks behind making it happen.

[Sean]

Lifting him up. Lifting up his dick.

[Francis]

Who made the PR for that? That's like the best pr. The only good PR after that for dicks was when I think, was it Ariana Grande was, like, talking about Pete Davidson's dick.

[Roan]

That's right.

[Francis]

I was like.

[Roan]

And it's 10 inches or whatever she said. Yeah, she said someone. I think someone asked her, was it.

[Sean]

Was it Charlemagne?

[Roan]

I don't know.

[Sean]

Why do I feel like it was on the Breakfast Club? Or maybe he talked about. Maybe Pete Davidson talked about it on the Breakfast Club.

[Francis]

You're talking about Charlemagne. That came in from nine. Oh, got it. Like 10 inch.

[Roan]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

And then she, like, like, sang about it in songs.

[Roan]

Oh, she replied. She replied to a tweet.

[Francis]

She said it was. Yeah, in that. Thank you, next song. And she's, like, singing about how Mac Miller's dead and Pete Davidson has a big dick. She's a. She's going through it right now.

[Sean]

She's going through it bad.

[Roan]

Is she?

[Sean]

Yeah. Hoping. Hope she's figures it out. Honestly, it's pretty depressing to watch.

[Roan]

What's wrong with her?

[Sean]

She's got, like, a really bad eating disorder.

[Francis]

No, she doesn't. Now you're, like, not allowed to say that she's a bad eating disorder.

[Roan]

Why?

[Francis]

Because then you're like, shaming or like.

[Roan]

We're not shaming.

[Francis]

We're celebrating.

[Roan]

No, we're concerned.

[Sean]

We're concerned, but it is, like, genuinely concerning. Like, she looks really, really unhealthy.

[Roan]

Okay, well, now we're getting a little shamey.

[Sean]

I don't think it's shamey, but it's like, someone's gotta help her.

[Roan]

Oh, gosh.

[Francis]

She's like a rib cage with a jaw.

[Sean]

Yes.

[Francis]

Respect. Super respectfully.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Great singing voice.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly. That's the thing.

[Francis]

Incredible.

[Roan]

Makeup artist is an amazing talent.

[Francis]

Amazing. And we have to say all this. We have to say this part.

[Roan]

This podcast is brought to you by our partners at Ariana Grande. One thing Ron and I can agree on is that Ariana Grande looks beautiful. No matter how much she's eating.

[Francis]

We like to see her in Wicked and her songs. Most of the stuff, I'm already spending money on it. I'm good. I'm just concerned for her. Yeah.

[Sean]

I think that's kind of the general opinion is everyone is concerned for her.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Body. Body negativity took over the zmpi took the zombie killed. Body positivity. Yeah.

[Sean]

The Zampi is. It's a nasty. Nasty. I don't know. What do you guys think about it? The zamp.

[Francis]

I think it's probably good for some people, but I also think that.

[Sean]

And a lot of walking around with bobbleheads now, a lot of people are all drawn like. Like one of those pop toys or what are they called?

[Francis]

Funko Popping. The Funko popification of Hollywood because of the Zim. But I think that it is a shortcut, and it probably has helped and saved a lot of people's lives. But also people are taking the shortcut that could get there the long way or that also don't even need to get there. You know what I mean? Like, they're taking the.

[Sean]

I mean, the Funko Pops is pretty spot on. It's exactly what they look like. But it's only like some people, you know, some people, it looks like they look good.

[Roan]

If I took Ozempic, I'd be Funko poppy because I have a humongous head and there's only so much sort of skin that you can lose on your face.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And head.

[Sean]

I think it's good and it's bad. I don't know. I don't know.

[Francis]

Wow. Way to take a stance on this one. Holy shit, bro.

[Sean]

I just think there's a lot of people that are doing it that don't need it.

[Francis]

Yes. Yeah.

[Roan]

Which is like, what are you supposed to say? You're not fat enough to take it?

[Francis]

Well, that's why they used to say it was for other shit.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

That's so hard to. To sort of draw a line because

[Sean]

I feel like there should just be, like, a required bmi.

[Roan]

But the BMI hole measurement is also

[Sean]

completely ridiculous because you're morbidly obese.

[Roan]

I'm morbidly obese.

[Francis]

What about people who just want to taste Bozempic? For a couple months.

[Sean]

I don't know.

[Francis]

I don't know.

[Roan]

Well, Dana cycles on and off.

[Francis]

Well, it doesn't work on day.

[Roan]

It doesn't work.

[Francis]

His surviving barstool card said that he's the only person that's gained weight on Ozempic.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Mathematically, which is a feather in his hat.

[Sean]

I mean, what if you just took a bunch of Adderall? Like, what if you just started taking, like.

[Roan]

You know, I don't know if that's, like, a healthy way to lose weight, but. Is stay up more hours and grind my teeth?

[Sean]

Well, I mean, more so because it suppresses your appetite. But, like, what it. Like, not. Not so you can just get cracked out of your mind.

[Roan]

It's gonna be awake for 20 hours a day, and that way I won't be lying down and not burning calories.

[Sean]

I don't. All I know is that when I was taking Adderall when I was a kid, I weighed, like, a hundred pounds. But, like, what?

[Roan]

What?

[Sean]

Oh, well, then what's healthier, though, you know? Like, I don't think either of them are necessarily a healthy way to lose weight. They're both suppressing.

[Roan]

The healthy way to lose weight is obvious. It's known. It's been around.

[Sean]

Go to the gym.

[Roan]

No, it's diet and exercise.

[Sean]

Yeah. All right, but come on now.

[Roan]

What?

[Sean]

I said come on.

[Roan]

Yeah, exactly. Like, people can't have necessarily the discipline to. To do that or. Or their. Their body. Their constitution doesn't wire that way. I've come away from this idea that if I don't know that people are overweight because it's their fault. I don't believe that at all.

[Sean]

Oh, you think? Okay, I see.

[Roan]

I think I've know enough people now who I have seen be overweight, even though they're trying not to be.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And I'm like. Yeah. There's just certain genetic factors, whatever things that. Unfortunately, it's, like, a unlucky situation.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I also know the other way. People like J. Will and like, Marty Mush who eat nothing but, like, fast food.

[Roan]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

And they're in, like, pretty good shape.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Like Taco Bell and Baja Blast. Blast for breakfast?

[Francis]

Yes. You're, like, having straight Baja Blasts and you cannot get fat.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And that's because you're God's favorite. Yeah.

[Sean]

It's just metabolism.

[Francis]

Yeah. God.

[Sean]

But I mean, like, what. Like, if they both are just suppressing your appetite, like, wouldn't. I don't know if it's. If it's me, I'm going. I'm going. The Adderall. The Adderall diet.

[Francis]

Yeah, because at least you'll be able to grind. You're gonna grind so hard. Grind your teeth, but you're also gonna write something good. Get everything done. Check off your, you know, your entire checklist for the day. Clean the house with a toothbrush.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly.

[Francis]

I also do not care what people put in their body.

[Sean]

No, not at all.

[Francis]

Truly. Do not give a. If people take Ozempic or Adderall or anything.

[Sean]

Do you think it's the food?

[Francis]

No, I think it's a. I think. I think people are born with certain metabolisms.

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[Francis]

I'm tired of people saying that they go to Italy and they lose weight, but they do. They do.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Yeah, because they smoke a pack of skinny cigs a day while they're over there.

[Sean]

What was the who? Who was what? What? What movie is it where the guy says, like, he's like, smoking doesn't kill you. He's like, people in China smoke and they live till they're 130. Like, it's the. They say it's the food. The food in America.

[Roan]

Dude. There's this new phenomenon where for whatever reason, people think it's sexy to post photos of themselves smoking cigarettes.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sean]

I mean, that's come back forever.

[Roan]

No but it didn't for a while, and now it's back. I think it's an automatic ew.

[Sean]

I think that's been a thing for, like, I would say the last gross 10 years.

[Roan]

I don't mind if you smoke a cigarette. Don't take a photo of it and post it.

[Francis]

Well, I think that just like guys.

[Roan]

It's performative.

[Sean]

Yeah, of course.

[Francis]

But I think it's sexy for guys like Liam Neeson's stunt double who see it as, like, a phallic thing. Like, oh, that's my size. That's. That's. That looks like my penis.

[Sean]

I would rather see someone post a photo of them smoking a cigarette than people that post photos of them smoking weed.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Posting photos, smoking weed. I view that as bum behavior.

[Roan]

That's bum behavior too. But I think the cigarette thing is even worse. Honestly.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Did you see that weed has overtaken cigarettes as the.

[Sean]

And alcohol.

[Francis]

I didn't know about alcohol.

[Sean]

I think it's, like, the most consumed.

[Francis]

Well, I was saying most smoked thing, so I don't know how many people are smoking alcohol, but I'll take your word for it.

[Sean]

They're vaporizing it.

[Francis]

Isn't that, like.

[Sean]

Yeah, apparently. Like, if you do that, like, you

[Roan]

smoke the whole beer, I'm gonna go home and smoke a six pack.

[Sean]

I think you can get, like, insanely drunk.

[Francis]

Yeah. Yeah. Way too fast. I guarantee Dana Beers is working science to figure that out right now.

[Sean]

Yeah, they gotta get. Yeah, we gotta get beer carts.

[Francis]

They have DMT in a pen.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Why can't we have a.

[Sean]

Can we have a Bud Light in a pen? Smoking on an ipa, it's an acquired taste.

[Roan]

This here, it's from Vermont. Small batch.

[Sean]

We might get to a point where we're just smoking everything, you know?

[Francis]

Yeah, for sure.

[Sean]

Especially how we consume vegetables. Yeah. Time for my broccoli.

[Roan]

I hate this.

[Sean]

Yeah. Oh, gross.

[Francis]

Or like, how they've made weed. Like, how weed used to be like 20 THC and, like, a beer is, like 6% alcohol, but now there's like, like 40 THC.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

I mean, and so now, like, you're gonna have, like, a 40 alcohol beer vape.

[Sean]

I don't think the. The higher the thc. I don't think. I think it just makes the side effects significantly worse. Like, I feel like there's no difference between, like, 25 THC and 40 THC other than you just feel worse the next day.

[Roan]

Yeah, I. I feel it big time.

[Sean]

Really? Yeah.

[Roan]

Because I have a higher tolerance now. And 20% gets me whatever. Normal, relaxed, 40% gets me high.

[Sean]

Yeah, but what if you just smoked more of the 20%?

[Roan]

I don't know. I don't like to do that. I don't like to just pile it on.

[Sean]

That's why you have a bong.

[Roan]

I don't have it anymore.

[Sean]

Oh, you got rid of it?

[Roan]

Nikki took it when she got successful. She's like, that's mine now.

[Sean]

The not smoking is. Is.

[Roan]

Is.

[Francis]

I don't know.

[Sean]

I don't know how long I'm gonna. I'm gonna do this for, to be honest.

[Roan]

What?

[Sean]

Yeah, I'm just kidding.

[Francis]

You're two days in now.

[Sean]

What do you mean? I'm over a weekend.

[Roan]

Come on back, baby. Come on back.

[Sean]

It's been over a week.

[Roan]

It's dangerous out there.

[Sean]

Yeah, there's, like, no fun.

[Francis]

What do you mean? You've had the most product. You were on the limitless pill all week.

[Sean]

Yeah, but now I'm burnt out.

[Francis]

No, you're not.

[Sean]

I'm looking to.

[Francis]

You're burnt out of being nuts. Not being. Not high.

[Sean]

I'm trying to melt some wa. Brain.

[Roan]

No, you're gonna come back stronger than stronger.

[Sean]

Dabs. I'm getting a nectar collector.

[Francis]

Don't get a neck.

[Roan]

You went out beyond the wall and it scared you, so you're gonna come back in and make sure that you never leave again.

[Sean]

It's just feeling like shit's too serious, you know?

[Roan]

Yeah. I don't like it.

[Sean]

I just feel like.

[Roan]

I mean, it's all, like, how motivated you are. It's making me very self conscious.

[Sean]

I don't. I. I mean, it's obviously like a mental thing, but, like, I guess I just associate nighttime with smoking weed. And, like, when I don't smoke, which I haven't been smoking weed, it's like I feel like I work all day, and then I just get in bed, and then I, like, I'm just, like, waiting to go back to work, you know?

[Roan]

Yeah, there's no. There's nothing. Life sucks.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You need to get up to escape from your podcast job.

[Sean]

Yeah. Which is bad. So that's why I'm like, maybe I should take more of a break.

[Roan]

You're missing. You're missing the routine, the ritual, the grinding, the rolling. That's all comforting. That's all nice. Yeah, that's a bro.

[Francis]

Make a lettuce wrap. Then, like, you can. You can get that routine through other things. The tactile routine. Get the La Marzocco.

[Roan]

I need you. No, no, no.

[Sean]

But I am Like, I do feel so much better, and I feel like I am having more fun. Like, I played. I was playing video games with Bo and Matt last night. Like, I had a blast. And then I get off, and then I'm just like. I guess it's time to go to bed.

[Roan]

Is there a world where you could only smoke right before you go to bed?

[Sean]

No, that's. It's a slippery slope. Even if I do, when I do go back, I'm gonna go weekends only, I think. No.

[Roan]

Yeah, I don't think you will.

[Sean]

I think I will.

[Roan]

I think we're gonna. We're gonna get you back.

[Francis]

You're gonna come back. You're gonna build back better.

[Sean]

No, no, you're gonna be stronger. I'm gonna build back in a healthier routine.

[Francis]

No, no, no. I think that you're gonna build back, like, more. And. And you're gonna be. Be taking, like, 15 breaks every 15 minutes of the podcast to go to the bathroom like a cokehead. You're gonna be doing weed like a cokehead.

[Sean]

Yeah. No, I. I hope not.

[Francis]

That would be pounding on the bathroom door.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And you're gonna be, like, slumped in a stall.

[Sean]

No, see, I don't. I don't like that at all.

[Francis]

Well, that's what's gonna happen to you.

[Sean]

No, I would hope not.

[Francis]

If you don't take control of your life, it's because of your endless need for dopamine.

[Sean]

I think it is to dopam my dopamine, My dopamine receptors are fried.

[Francis]

So that means you need to, like, reset them through aggressive, like, exercise. No, no. Like, you need no stimulation for long periods of time. You need to be under stimulated. So even the slightest thing, like. So seeing the color red, like, does

[Sean]

that gets me going?

[Francis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sean]

Yeah. I think I might. I think I just need to go full dopamine reset.

[Francis]

You need to stare at a wall?

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

For weeks.

[Roan]

Do you guys have any TV shows that you like?

[Sean]

Vlog. Beep's the funniest show I've ever watched.

[Roan]

Anything new?

[Francis]

Amazing.

[Sean]

So funny.

[Francis]

Have you watched All Veep?

[Sean]

No, he refuses to watch it. Strictly because I suggested it.

[Roan]

No, I refuse to watch it because it has a female lead.

[Sean]

Oh. It's literally like. It's the. She's in a male role.

[Roan]

I know. I'm kidding. Amazing.

[Sean]

It is so funny. No, I heard that Widow's Bay show is pretty good. I haven't watched it, though. It's on Apple tv.

[Francis]

House of Stasi on Hulu. Really good. No. Why not?

[Roan]

That Stuff is not for me.

[Francis]

How do you even know what it is?

[Roan]

Well, it's everywhere. And I was talking to, like. Who was I talking to? Una. Because Una had her on.

[Sean]

Oh, really?

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Stacy. Yeah.

[Roan]

Yeah, she had her on her drawing show.

[Francis]

Damn.

[Roan]

And she was like, none of my episodes do anywhere with. With famous people. Do anywhere near as well as, like, Harry.

[Sean]

Well, I mean, come on now.

[Roan]

Big cat face.

[Sean]

You're talking about the face

[Francis]

you should just have you on again. Honestly.

[Sean]

I mean, hey, why don't you co

[Roan]

host that show with him?

[Sean]

No, I don't think that's a good idea.

[Roan]

Why is that?

[Francis]

Because only thing he's drawing is hits from the bong. Only thing he's drawing is a nice long toque from the joint.

[Sean]

I might have to get. Maybe I'll start smoking. Smoking cigs. Maybe that's next.

[Francis]

You couldn't handle six?

[Sean]

No, I couldn't. So gross. I tried to smell. I smoked like a cig in Vegas because everyone was smoking cigs. Nasty. Yeah. It's so gross.

[Francis]

Horrible.

[Sean]

You brush your teeth nine times. It never goes away in that city too. Oh, hot.

[Francis]

But also just like concrete and, like, unnatural.

[Sean]

Well, we were. We were in. We were in the burbs.

[Francis]

Oh, you were?

[Sean]

Oh, yeah. We had a great, Like, a sick pad.

[Francis]

Where were you?

[Sean]

We were like, 20 minutes outside Vegas.

[Francis]

Holy shit.

[Sean]

And we had. We were right on a golf course. Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

I could see a Sig hitting out there.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I don't know.

[Sean]

It's just not really for me.

[Francis]

Yeah. 6. You need to be back on the booze to enjoy a Sig, and that's intermittently.

[Sean]

Yeah, I literally have no interest in going back to the booze.

[Roan]

I'm going to Vegas in September.

[Sean]

Really?

[Roan]

With my friends.

[Sean]

Oh, really? For fun?

[Roan]

Well, it's. They're expecting to have fun.

[Sean]

You're not?

[Roan]

I'm just going because I miss them.

[Sean]

Yeah, you'll have fun.

[Francis]

Why did they pick Vegas?

[Roan]

They like it. They like to gamble. They like that.

[Sean]

It's pretty hard not to have fun in Vegas.

[Roan]

I don't have fun there.

[Sean]

You will.

[Roan]

I don't like to.

[Sean]

You will.

[Roan]

I don't like it.

[Sean]

You're gonna have fun.

[Roan]

My idea of fun is like a ski trip or a whitewater, you know, being outside.

[Sean]

But a casino is fun. On.

[Roan]

For. If you're winning, which I'm not. And for a couple hours.

[Sean]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Roan]

We're going for three nights. That's an eternity in Vegas.

[Sean]

Yeah, It's a long time especially. Are you guys staying like in Vegas.

[Roan]

Yeah, we're staying at the Wind.

[Francis]

Only place to stay.

[Roan]

Only place.

[Francis]

Yes it is. It's the only place to stay.

[Sean]

It's the only place to stay.

[Roan]

Haven't they. Not really renovated the rooms in forever. When was the last time they renovated the win?

[Sean]

Was it Dante that had to get that? Got a smoking room in Vegas cuz he wanted to hit his vape.

[Francis]

I don't know who.

[Sean]

Who was it?

[Francis]

Wouldn't surprise me. You guys, you should get a suite up there.

[Roan]

Maybe we will. I have. I'm going with some heavy hitters, right.

[Francis]

Go with the heavy hitters, get a suite with the heavy hitter.

[Roan]

Some pipe laying.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Have a little hangover like experience.

[Francis]

Is that from Pulp Fiction? Yeah.

[Roan]

I'm gonna call up a couple of my. Some. Some heavy pipe hitting. I missed a pervert here. I wish he was dead. I don't know.

[Francis]

It's after he got raped.

[Roan]

Yep. After the rapes and bud comes back. As far as you and me is concerned, we cool.

[Sean]

Would you guys see yourself ever watching that movie again?

[Francis]

Yes. Yeah, Whenever.

[Sean]

It's amazing movie, whenever it's on, I'll watch. Because you're a cable guy. Yeah, yeah, cable. I feel like it's better you get now that you get more of a

[Francis]

natural and you can catch it in the middle of it.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You don't have to watch everything from the beginning.

[Sean]

Maybe I should get cable.

[Francis]

Cable, it's nice to jump into that.

[Sean]

Yeah. I think cable actually might replace the weed for me. Oh yeah.

[Francis]

It's way easier because you kind of

[Sean]

get a good dopamine hit of like changing the channels and then show that you're like, oh shit, something's actually on.

[Roan]

Oh, what a wonderful like retro.

[Francis]

Yeah, it's step back.

[Roan]

Yeah, it's your version of TV Vinyl.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly.

[Francis]

Because.

[Roan]

Yeah, no, I only have 27 channels. Did you see that show on ESPN? Oh, you mean eight.

[Sean]

Yeah, but I think that could be a good like. I think that is kind of a dopamine reset in a way because it's like you don't just get to like. It's almost overwhelming having to open up the smart TV and it's like, what, what should we watch? We could watch literally anything. There's. We could watch anything that has ever been made rather than cable. You're like. Some nights you're going to have to watch a movie or like maybe you

[Francis]

find a new movie that you didn't expect.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly.

[Francis]

There's a. It is a truly sublime feeling to click into Something on cable and to pull the blanket up to your chin.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

And you're just there. And you're just like sitting there for a while.

[Sean]

Yeah. The roast is when you don't even know, like, if you're at like a shitty hotel. You don't even know what the movie is.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sean]

You're just watching a movie.

[Francis]

Yeah. There's no tv, God channel.

[Sean]

I'm looking up the quotes from the movie, trying to figure out what movie I'm watching.

[Roan]

Yeah, dude, I started watching the movie Hamnet Hamnets.

[Francis]

I fell asleep in that one, bro.

[Roan]

Normally in the past, this would have been a movie I would have loved. Yeah, I know. It's well regarded, well reviewed, nominated. It's sort of Shakespeare in Love meets, you know.

[Sean]

Oh, I. I've seen this. You saw? I haven't seen. I've seen, like. I know the movie.

[Roan]

Okay, well, anyway, I've now. It has been three attempts to finish this movie. I don't think I'm a third of the way through.

[Sean]

Yeah. That you fall asleep.

[Roan]

No, I watched 20, 15 minutes of it and I am like, there is nothing else that would be less interesting than what I'm doing.

[Sean]

Yeah. I don't know how you consume movies like that.

[Roan]

It's my point, because I know I. I'm trying to re. Strengthen my attention muscle. It has atrophied from scrolling. Scrolling. Yeah. Variety.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

As you said, I just always. I'll watch five, ten minutes of something and assume like.

[Francis]

That's why you have to pull the blanket up to your chin like that.

[Sean]

That is block key.

[Francis]

Like it. Because it. Basically it removes your hands from the situation. If the blanket is to the chin, you. You can't scroll. One thing.

[Roan]

One thing.

[Sean]

You guys have a TV in your room?

[Francis]

I do.

[Sean]

You watch tv, like when you're going to bed?

[Francis]

No, not really.

[Sean]

I have a TV in my room now. It's awesome.

[Roan]

Is it? I've been wondering if I should do that.

[Sean]

It's pretty sick. Especially if you have like. If you have nothing the next day or whatever. Like, it's nice to like lay in bed and watch something.

[Roan]

I don't do that.

[Francis]

That's not for you.

[Sean]

Because you don't have a TV in your room.

[Roan]

No, I just don't. Like, I could. That would make me feel. That would make me feel really lost. You'd feel, I promise, rot in my bed.

[Sean]

What do you mean rot? You're watching a movie. Am I not talking about 11? I'm talking about the night before.

[Roan]

Oh, I thought you Said.

[Sean]

I said like if you have nothing the next day so you don't have to worry about like, oh, I gotta go to bed.

[Roan]

Oh, miss, I misunderstood. I thought you meant the next day is when you're watch the movie.

[Sean]

No, no, that. That's the thing that sucks is I. I'm going to get another TV because I. I'm. I don't watch TV at all during the day because I. Again, like what you just said. I don't want to lay in bed at 11am and watch something.

[Roan]

Right.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

So you only have one TV right

[Sean]

now I only have one TV. What if your drive was fueled with more like more protection for more time on the road? Shelby Power Nitro plus provides more protection for longer lasting engines. So it helps you keep your engine running like new for. For whatever drive is ahead. Shelby Power Nitro plus engine performance that lasts compared to minimum detergent gasoline. With continuous use of Shelby Power Nitro plus and gasoline direct injection engines, actual effects and benefits may vary. See Shell us more dash protection for more information. But they're.

[Francis]

Dude, they're so cheap. There's no excuse to only have one then. Exactly.

[Sean]

I'm going to get a second.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sean]

4K.

[Roan]

And that second one is for what reason?

[Sean]

Living room.

[Roan]

So that you can watch TV during the day.

[Sean]

Football.

[Roan]

That's fine. But.

[Sean]

But you're gonna need a TV for football.

[Roan]

Now all you're telling me is that it's only gross if you watch TV in your bedroom during the day.

[Sean]

Yeah, as long as.

[Roan]

As long as it's out in the open, it's healthy.

[Sean]

I mean. Yeah. I mean I'm not gonna walk.

[Roan]

I don't even disagree.

[Sean]

I don't watch TV during the day. Regardless.

[Roan]

I don't disagree with that.

[Sean]

Like I. I never watch TV during the day. I don't really TV as it is. So like I don't. I play video games.

[Roan]

You wouldn't want to watch t. You wouldn't want to watch football in your bedroom.

[Sean]

I've done that. I've had that set up before. It's. It's nice. But no, I would much rather watch TV like on the couch.

[Francis]

So you're gonna screen out your crib. You're gonna. It's the carabification of your crib.

[Sean]

Yeah, definitely.

[Francis]

Just gotta have. You might. So you're one step away from having eight screens in your living room.

[Sean]

Currently they're are three screens in my living room and one screen in my bedroom.

[Francis]

And you're going to add a TV fourth. And once you add a TV. You need two side TVs for the.

[Sean]

I love how you're thinking games. Love how you're thinking.

[Francis]

And then, like, two lower computer monitors.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

So you can watch Red Zone.

[Sean]

What do you think? Do you think I do that? You think I go. You think I go one regular TV or you think I go, like, four small TVs? Quad box.

[Francis]

No, no, I think you go one. And then wings, you need your main one.

[Sean]

So two side monitors, vertical. Side monitors, vertical.

[Roan]

I want your home to look like the lobby at cnn.

[Sean]

I want it to look like the. The scene in the Dark Knight.

[Roan]

Yeah, exactly.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly.

[Roan]

When you're finished typing your name,

[Sean]

like, I want to be able to sit at my desk and, like, be doing whatever. And then I got my. And then I got my spinny chair, and I want to turn around and see Drake May throwing a dime to A.J. brown.

[Francis]

Yeah. It's key to have one of your TVs be on a lag so you can watch it and then watch the replay in real time.

[Sean]

Yeah, I love it.

[Francis]

Spinny chair.

[Sean]

I love it.

[Francis]

You need it on at all angles.

[Sean]

Yeah, but. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what I'm gonna do.

[Francis]

Then you treat yourselves, and then you get out to Queens and you just. You stretch your goddamn legs.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah, legs are getting stretched. That's for damn sure.

[Francis]

You have some delicious Queens food. I got the Michelin app. There's a lot of Michelin restaurants out in Queens.

[Sean]

Yeah, all the food out there is insane.

[Roan]

Well, they probably have a lot of the Bib Gourmands out there.

[Francis]

What does that mean? I was looking up. What is Bib Gourmand?

[Roan]

Bib Gourmand is really good food. Really good value. Oh, they're like, awesome, awesome restaurants that don't. They're not quite fancy enough to have a star, but. Yeah, but that doesn't mean that they're worse. I. Some of my favorite restaurants are Bib Gourmand.

[Francis]

Oh, so some of the stuff on the Michelin app isn't Michelin Star, it's Bib Gourmand.

[Roan]

Yeah, and then they even. They have that. And then they also have.

[Francis]

Do you have the. The app?

[Roan]

No.

[Francis]

So you're just aware of the Bib Gourmand system without even.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Subscribing to the app?

[Sean]

I mean, how many Michelin star restaurants are there even in New York?

[Roan]

Oh, there's so many. If you count Bib stars, there's like 40. Oh, really? Two stars. There's probably like 12. What's the three stars? There's probably like four. In fact, I bet you I could name the three star restaurants.

[Sean]

Wait, is. Is Le Bernard Den one of them?

[Francis]

Yeah, for sure.

[Sean]

Is for Charles one of them? No, though.

[Roan]

No. 4 Charles might have one star, but I don't know.

[Sean]

See, that's where the system is broken to me, because four Charles, in my opinion, should have five stars.

[Roan]

Right?

[Francis]

Yeah, but there's. It's like a different.

[Roan]

It's so much more about the food and the service and the preparation and

[Francis]

the style of cooking. And there's like. Like almost trophy generation diversity quotient, where it's like you're Cambodian and Yemeni. Food needs to have, like, representation too.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

So it's like you. There's going to be a place that has a Michelin star, that's by jfk, where you can get Trinidadian food and like that. And it's like.

[Sean]

Yeah, that's what Queens feels like. A lot of the places in Queens feel like somewhere that, like, Anthony Bourdain

[Francis]

would go, yeah, and you're sitting on a stool.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly.

[Francis]

I want to hear you try and name them the places with four.

[Roan]

I know. Masa got relegated to two, too.

[Sean]

Real.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Congrats.

[Francis]

No, it's bad.

[Sean]

Oh, they got. They got brought down. Relegated. Oh, my.

[Roan]

And by the way, why congrats to me?

[Sean]

I was congratulating them. Brought up, but I misunderstood.

[Roan]

No, they got taken down to two, which is bad for them because I think they're the single most expensive restaurant in New York City.

[Sean]

Oh, that's detrimental. They'll never recover from that.

[Roan]

Correct. That's not good. The top ones are Bernarda. I think it's. Another one is. Oh, boy. I'm not.

[Francis]

You should know. You shouldn't. There's one you should know and there's three. I'd be shocked if you knew.

[Roan]

The mark Forgion. No, is not three stars per se. Is three stars.

[Francis]

Yes, per se. Exactly.

[Sean]

Great poll.

[Francis]

Great call. Per se.

[Roan]

Is Gabriel Cruiser.

[Francis]

It's not

[Roan]

close, though. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Francis]

One of them is Daniel. No, Norris Penny. But salute to Daniel Penny.

[Roan]

Wait, don't tell me. Keep that one.

[Sean]

That Robert De Niro owns, Atomics is

[Roan]

two stars and it should be three.

[Francis]

They said Atomics is not. And of course you think that Locanda Verde is.

[Sean]

Is that the one that Robert De Niro owns? I've never been. I don't go to these dumbass restaurants. This shit is all. All dumb. I want you guys to know that I'd actually like. I support you guys. I support you guys being more into like the fancy, like, wine and stuff like that than this.

[Roan]

Well, that's what this is.

[Sean]

Yeah, but this is. It's a scam. You're being scammed.

[Francis]

No, wine is way more of a scam than this.

[Sean]

No, I went to Le Bernardin. It is a scam.

[Francis]

Certainly not.

[Sean]

Certainly is.

[Francis]

How did you not enjoy the food you tasted?

[Sean]

I'll get. I'll get the lobster. And then they bring it down into tic tac tack. It's a tic tac sized lobster. You go, wow, that seems like it would have been good if there was more of it.

[Francis]

So if you ran the Michelin star program, like Red Lobster. Because they have big lobsters.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly.

[Roan]

If.

[Sean]

If I would go to Red Lobster a hundred times before I went to Laburna.

[Francis]

Then again, that's insane.

[Sean]

Diet Coke in one of those cool, cool cups.

[Francis]

One of them, you know, The Samal. Yeah.

[Roan]

Oh, 11 Madison park is three stars. Yes.

[Francis]

Yes. Wow. There's a Korean one.

[Roan]

I don't know.

[Francis]

The Jung Sik. Sushi show.

[Sean]

Yeah, I don't really snap it up for Sushi show.

[Roan]

Snaps. Snaps, Snaps. I think the two stars are the. Are the ones you want to hit though, if you really want that level of like high cuisine. Because they're the ones that are fighting so hard to get a third star.

[Sean]

So what is for Charles? Did we confirm? Because that's. I'm basing that as the number one restaurant in New York for me, for my cuisine, my taste, my preference, my wine tastes. They have all of my favorites. Red white house.

[Francis]

Red house white.

[Roan]

Just quickly, Tyler, would you look up whether or not four Charles has a. Has a designation under Michelin or they're

[Francis]

simply a bib gourmand.

[Sean]

They could.

[Roan]

Which I doubt they would be because I don't think that their prices would suit them. That does not have a Michelin star. It's a recommended. It's a recommended. It's still noted.

[Francis]

Well, Michelin doesn't have to be your only food recommendation site. You could. I mean, the infatuation, I think, does a good job of recommending food.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Eater is the best eater every. The eater has in all the top cities in America. It has the. For whatever reason, the 39 best restaurants in Chicago. The 39 best restaurants in.

[Francis]

But their social media presence is infuriating. I think they're the ones who are like, if you go to London, you have to try this burger that's gonna change your life.

[Sean]

Run, don't walk.

[Francis]

Yeah, that's. That's the Eater cadence.

[Roan]

But the thing that. The one thing about Eater that I do really like.

[Francis]

Belly, actually.

[Roan]

Fuck yeah, that's Belly. I don't like Belly.

[Francis]

That's Belly.

[Roan]

The one thing about Eater that I really like is that you can go to the map and then see which restaurants are near you, which I think you can do. On Infatuation.

[Sean]

I think they have the. Oh, Yelp.

[Francis]

I think everyone has integrated the map.

[Sean]

Yup.

[Roan]

The problem with Yelp is like, they're like, here's their hot dog stand. It's great. And then there's too many. There's too many restaurants on Yelp.

[Sean]

Yeah, they got everything on Yelp. Yelp is. Yelp has, I think, surpassed, like, Google Maps and Apple Maps.

[Roan]

I don't like Yelp.

[Sean]

It is the map. You could type in, like, I need to get an 8 gigabyte flash drive. And they're telling you exactly where to go.

[Francis]

Yelp has like it. There's too. Too many people can offer their input where it's not. Not a reliable narrator.

[Sean]

But if they have a ton of reviews, you know, this place is incredible.

[Francis]

Yeah. I don't know. Yelp's not for me. I was too poor for you boys.

[Sean]

It's the poor man's belly

[Roan]

hungry. Yeah.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I opened my social media on Monday morning and I saw a picture of my good friend Obes filming the J. Cole concert.

[Sean]

Oh, really?

[Francis]

From. He was. Had a beautiful video, black and white, of J. Cole performing. And I realized that I had tickets to that jcole concert. Beautiful floor seats to the jcole concert that I bought for my wife. And I didn't know that I had tickets to. The show was at the Barclay. It was at Madison Square Garden.

[Roan]

How did you not know that you had tickets to that?

[Francis]

I just didn't know when the show was.

[Sean]

Oh, so he was on the Perkies.

[Francis]

I was on the Oxies, the Roxies.

[Roan]

What are Roxy's?

[Sean]

I think they're just like super strong Oxy. So I don't know, it's like a street. I think it's like a street drug.

[Roan]

I remember a friend of mine used to have those on him.

[Sean]

Oh, really?

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Are you guys still close?

[Roan]

No.

[Sean]

Yeah. It's not surprising, but this was like,

[Roan]

probably 2012 and he called them Roxies. Roxy Codon. Strong prescription opioid pain medicine.

[Francis]

It's a brand name.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Always interesting when you come up with a brand name for a Drug. What the Are they thinking?

[Sean]

Yeah. Why do they have to make them sound so cool? Like Roxy's. That sounds.

[Roan]

Well, Roxy Codon is not cool. But then if you can, you know, abbreviate it to something cute.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Take a sting out of it.

[Sean]

Zans.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Xanax is just a made up word, though.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Zyrtec. Like, they just wanted to make a cool word. Even, like, Mounjaro is just, like, made up. It's just a made up word. It's not bad based on anything. It's not like a chemical compound.

[Roan]

No, no.

[Francis]

How are they coming up with that?

[Sean]

Maybe it's like that. Maybe there's just some dude whose last name is Roxy Codon. Matt Roxy Codon.

[Francis]

For the Roxy Codon family. Oh, dude, I can get a table anywhere. I got the Roxy Fortune oxycodone for two. I felt so dumb having not made. Made it to the concert. I would have been limping up there, but it would have just been sick to see. J. Cole.

[Roan]

I like J. Cole a lot. Has J. Cole come back from his fall from grace as a result of being sort of.

[Sean]

I don't know if he really fell,

[Roan]

to be honest, because he just got out of the beef.

[Sean]

Yeah, I think he started the beef and then he kind of just bailed at the right time.

[Roan]

Didn't people say he was a bit of a pussy?

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sean]

I mean, Kendrick said, there's three goats left, and I see two of them hugging and kissing on stage,

[Roan]

and that's Drake and Drake and J. Cole were. Were hugging and kissing each other on stage, Essentially, yes. What?

[Francis]

But I think Drake also had words. Had choice words for J. Cole after the beef or during his last album. I think Drake had some choice things to say about J. Cole.

[Roan]

They said mean things to him, and he didn't come back, which I thought showed maturity.

[Sean]

Yeah, me too.

[Roan]

Too.

[Sean]

I don't think he wants. He's not. He's not about that. He's above that.

[Francis]

His therapist is just up the rap game.

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly.

[Francis]

His therapist is like, don't respond.

[Sean]

He's good. Sober rap. That's what me and. Me and my friends, we say. J. Cole, sober rap.

[Francis]

Drake Cole expressed his lingering disappointment. Drake expresses lingering disappointment during Make Them Pay.

[Roan]

I like. I like Jake. I like Cole.

[Sean]

Jake. I like all three of them, to be honest.

[Francis]

No, that's not. That's not an acceptable. I know that's controversial, but that's not acceptable.

[Sean]

I don't like Drake. Nat. Like, I don't love Drake's new Music, but his old music, it's just undeniably amazing.

[Francis]

Who?

[Sean]

Drake?

[Francis]

You don't like his new music, did you say?

[Sean]

I just don't really listen to. I really just listen to. If you're reading this, it's too late. On repeat.

[Francis]

You know that he has been the leading streamer every month of this calendar year with like, at minimum, 1.6 billion streams a month pay to play. Play what?

[Sean]

Yeah. Oh, also, that has nothing to do. I don't. I don't. I don't. I know Drake is still.

[Francis]

We got a lost ninja here.

[Sean]

It's just. It's just not really. I know Drake is still very big. It's just not. The new stuff's not really my cup of tea.

[Francis]

I'm. I just hate to hear a lost ninja like you. I don't like Drake grasping at straws, regurgitating narratives. Go back to the Israel.

[Sean]

I like when he acts tough. Go back to the Israel stuff.

[Roan]

Yeah. I liked you more when you were on Weed in Israel. Yeah.

[Sean]

No, a lot of people did. I'm a. I've been getting. I will say, since my. Since my kush break, I've only been listening to rap. None of that. None of that lame I was listening to before. No. Mumford and Sons, I'll tell you that. Much too angry, just too pissed off to be listening to that.

[Francis]

Yeah, a big three. Anyway, there were too many chefs in the kitchen. It was a mess to begin with. Boom.

[Sean]

That's Drake.

[Francis]

That's Drake.

[Roan]

That's a bar.

[Francis]

Weak ass bar.

[Roan]

I like that.

[Francis]

Bar, weak bar, Chefs in the kitchen, mess to begin with.

[Sean]

No, I understand.

[Francis]

No, no, no. You don't get the syllables, bro.

[Roan]

You have to hear it to. To know it.

[Francis]

Must to begin with. That's multi syllable magic right there.

[Sean]

I think he just got buried. Too bad. Like, he just got buried.

[Francis]

Me, I stood on 10 tees and accepted the mission. That's the same rhyme scheme. I'd rather death than death and submission. Same rhyme scheme. That's multi syllable. How can you press the ignition and let some memories of your past affect your decision? That's ins. That's insane. Chefs in the kitchen. Says who, bro? I honestly will. I'll have him come and I might have Chubbs come and do it, bro. Honestly, honestly. It doesn't even have to be chubs.

[Sean]

Look, I. I respect Drake.

[Francis]

We could have party come and slap the.

[Sean]

Probably in my top five most streamed artists.

[Francis]

Oh, wow.

[Sean]

I'm a Drake fan. I like Drake. I'm just saying, the new stuff doesn't do it for me like the old stuff did. There's nothing wrong with that.

[Francis]

You didn't listen.

[Sean]

I didn't.

[Francis]

Yeah, so that's your fault. That doesn't mean it didn't do anything for you, bro. You're just embarrassing yourself. I'm sorry, bro. Obs. I'm sorry, bro. He gets. And he's coming off weed.

[Sean]

He's with, you know, something a little. I'm a little moody right now.

[Francis]

You're picking fights. My bad, bro.

[Sean]

Just trying to start.

[Francis]

He's like. He's being a goof. Like, he actually is obsessed.

[Sean]

I think Kendrick's probably my goat right now.

[Francis]

I'm sorry, bro.

[Sean]

It's just. It's undeniable.

[Francis]

Like, what's. What. What thing? Did he say that you liked everything? Like, what everything? Like, what's the thing?

[Sean]

Yeah, exactly. Mustard. I love that.

[Francis]

How did he come up with that?

[Sean]

Come on, bro. You know he's a better. He's a better rapper than Drake. Don't even play good, kid. Mad City. It's a masterpiece.

[Francis]

Great, great album. Are we talking about the one from 2012? Yeah, but they're all years ago.

[Roan]

I tried to listen to Pimp A, but to. To Pimp a Butterfly all the way from start to finish was like watching Hamnet.

[Sean]

That one's. That one's a little exactly the same

[Francis]

as him, and you just kind of like wake up from a nap and someone's screaming and it's just like, whoa, didn't do it.

[Sean]

But what's it could. What was it? Damn. Was that one of them?

[Francis]

That was one of them.

[Sean]

That album's great.

[Roan]

That had swimming pools on it.

[Sean]

No, that's. That's good, kid.

[Roan]

Mad City Swimming Pools is amazing.

[Sean]

That's corny ass song.

[Roan]

Okay, Corny.

[Sean]

I remember some kid came up to me once and he was, like, trying to explain it to me, like, when I was in high school. He's like, it's about, like, how, like, bad alcohol is. And I was like, yeah, I know, dude. It's pretty straightforward. It's not like there's no Easter eggs in that song.

[Roan]

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[Sean]

You see all that weed in Texas? What like the laws? Like you get caught with a gram. It's like I think you get life in Prison?

[Francis]

Yeah. I saw Casey Musgraves. No, it's not even just weed. It's like, Delta.

[Sean]

Like, yeah, that shit's all illegal now.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sean]

All the hemp.

[Roan]

Oh, they went backwards.

[Sean]

Yeah. Apparently 70% of people in Texas wanted it to be fully legalized, and then they made it way more illegal.

[Francis]

Eagle. Oh, and which makes you just think, like, what's Rogan even doing down there?

[Sean]

I know, right? What's happening down there?

[Francis]

Because I'm pretty sure I watched Musk and Rogan, Chief and Devil's Let on the set in Texas.

[Roan]

Also.

[Francis]

Texas.

[Sean]

Like, I don't know. Didn't all those guys move down to Texas because they were like, we got to get out of California. It's too government. Too government heavy. And now it's like, if you smoke weed, you go to prison.

[Roan]

This is the forever fallacy of, like, yeah, all the. All the red states have strong bans on. On things like Gam. You can't. Sports game now in Texas right now. Now you can fully.

[Francis]

I mean, prediction markets have opened up. All different types of, like, DraftKings is legal in all states now because the prediction markets.

[Sean]

But can you even bet on sports on that?

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Huh?

[Francis]

Of course. Come on, bro.

[Sean]

What? That's. This is all like, you can't smoke weed, but you can smoke Delta 9 now. You can. You can't gamble, but you can do prediction markets. Like, what are we doing?

[Francis]

Just. It's endless.

[Sean]

So stupid.

[Francis]

It's an endless cycle of loopholes.

[Sean]

Yeah, like. Like just legalize it if there's going to be all these insane loopholes. You got people smoking angel dust thinking it's weed

[Francis]

or 2k. Yeah, I think it's. The tax rates in California are pretty bad, though. Oh, definitely not just the government's big, but, like, the amount that you're getting taxed and that you have to be trans to live there.

[Sean]

That's crazy that they're making that a

[Francis]

law that you have to be trans.

[Sean]

And they're using the flock cameras to find all the CIS white men and kill them. You know, that's what this. You know, that's what the flock cameras are. They're. It's an attack on straight white cis.

[Francis]

Whites. Yeah, well, you would think that, but then I. I listen to the brother, Matt Walsh, just talk about how good flock cameras are for, like, 30 minutes.

[Sean]

He's. He's compromised.

[Francis]

Aren't you supposed to be against this?

[Sean]

Anyone who's pro flock camera is compromised.

[Francis]

He's like, this is a time when a flock camera Stopped a crime or. Or like, helped catch someone who did a crime. It's like. That's insane.

[Sean]

Who.

[Francis]

Who is caping for the flock cameras?

[Sean]

I have no idea. Idea.

[Roan]

Who? What is the camera?

[Francis]

They're privatized. It's. It's 1984. You've read 1984?

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

It's just.

[Sean]

We're under 24 hour surveillance.

[Francis]

Yes. And at. In all places, at all times.

[Sean]

A flock camera is an automated license plate reader system used by law enforcement, private businesses, and HOAs to capture vehicle data. Each solar or battery powered roadside unit. Typically it doesn't matter. Cost $3,000. Data captured snaps high contrast photos of license plate, vehicle make, model, color uploads.

[Francis]

I don't know. But it's not just doing. It's not just capturing.

[Sean]

But why is this such a big deal? I genuinely don't.

[Francis]

It's not just capturing.

[Sean]

I'm just talking out of my ass.

[Francis]

It's not just capturing cars. It's capturing like, human images and like, it's using data to like, be like. Like this guy's walking down the street with a description of them.

[Sean]

Yeah. So is this everywhere or is this just in certain states right now? Cuz I haven't seen these in New York.

[Francis]

I think it's in certain, like, places and neighborhoods. And I saw like.

[Sean]

I know people are like, destroying them when they see them, which is probably a bad idea.

[Francis]

Why?

[Sean]

Cuz they're recording you.

[Francis]

Well, that's why you have to sneak up from behind. Honestly, that's what garage wire should be used for. Just go.

[Sean]

Yeah. Taking out the flock cameras.

[Francis]

Oh, no. He's choking me. Killing the AI with your hands. It's a big. It's a big hot button topic on the debate shows.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah, it's a big. It's a buzz right now.

[Francis]

You got to hear what Riley Gaines has to say about flock cameras.

[Sean]

I was trying to talk to my buddies about it last night. Just completely just making up as I usually do. But I was just. Just, you know, just trying to start something. Something.

[Francis]

Yeah, get the. You know, get it going.

[Sean]

You guys hear about these flock cameras? Bad news.

[Francis]

You actually. You floated it on the last episode of Son of a Boy. Dad.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

And nobody bit now. But now.

[Sean]

Now we're here.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Yeah. I was waiting.

[Francis]

Yeah. Yeah. It was only a matter of time before we got into the flock cameras. Francis, you need to. You need to check this out as a serious infringement of our liberties.

[Sean]

Now, Francis will be pro flock camera.

[Roan]

Unfortunately, I don't know that I Will be. In fact, I don't think I would.

[Francis]

Yeah, see, Love that.

[Roan]

But love that I don't think. Flock. Waka flocka cameras.

[Francis]

I got a whole lot of money. Waka flocka cameras. I would pay for 100%.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Sean]

Cameras that just start recording Waka Flocka 24 hours a day.

[Francis]

That would be amazing.

[Sean]

There's cameras set up around the entire country tracking specifically waka flocka's movements.

[Francis]

Satellite just honing in on Waka flocka. I was kind of picturing like, full waka flockas with cameras for as eyes that are just on every street corner. Just like a full, like, animatronic waka flocka on in every, like, private community.

[Sean]

I like that a lot, hoas.

[Francis]

But yeah, really, you know, is it.

[Roan]

Is.

[Francis]

Is that our. Is that our freedom of. Is that journalistic integrity? Is that freedom of the press? It's not exactly the press. Guess it's kind of just surveilling.

[Sean]

It's just surveillance.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I've done something nice in my life, which is that as I have checked out from keeping up with the news, I have also allowed my opinions to dissipate. I think most people go the other way.

[Sean]

It's a bad. This is bad.

[Roan]

They become less informed.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Stronger opinions.

[Sean]

You need your opinions.

[Roan]

I don't want to have opinions. Nobody needs to know what I say,

[Sean]

disagree, or to be able to say

[Roan]

that speaking into a microphone. But again, I just hope that nobody takes a single thing I say seriously.

[Sean]

Oh, me as well. Because I know I'm wrong.

[Francis]

Doesn't I think the Japanese think that, like, if you. If you know a lot about politics, you're a nerd.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah. They don't give a. About politics out there.

[Francis]

Yeah. They think it's uncouth to be, like, busying yourself with the everyday politics. And most of the guys, like, running for politics are, like, in, like, a Barney outfit or, like a full yellow suit with, like, spiky, funky hair. Like.

[Sean]

But do they have flash cameras in Japan?

[Francis]

I actually probably.

[Sean]

They probably do. They probably got something way more high tech.

[Francis]

They're probably filming you, like, through your toilet seat or. They did. They made people. They make noise when you take a picture. Because people are taking too many upskirts.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Francis]

Because so. So maybe they're fighting against that. I don't know. You'll be boots on the ground. When are you leaving for Japan?

[Roan]

Japan?

[Francis]

Are you going to Japan first or Las Vegas?

[Sean]

Oh, Vegas to Japan.

[Roan]

Going to Vegas. You're in War dogs middle of September. And Then I'm gonna go to Japan at the end of September.

[Francis]

What? You're going to both in September?

[Roan]

I'm only going to Japan for four days.

[Sean]

It's a lot of MQDs.

[Francis]

Good God. You're trying to go around that MQD wheel twice, trying to double.

[Sean]

This might be the year. You think this could be the.

[Roan]

For 360. No. You know, we're not going to talk about it. It's not going to happen.

[Francis]

Did you. I think Big Cat announced that the Internet Invitational is going to be next week.

[Roan]

Did he?

[Francis]

I think he said that on the act.

[Sean]

Oh, really?

[Roan]

I'm pretty sure that's great.

[Sean]

Hell, yeah. That's.

[Roan]

I'm really excited to see him, actually. He was so fun last year. It's like, there is definitely something really fun about. About not being in the tournament. You get to relax and just.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Roan]

Jokes. And hang out with really cool and funny people.

[Sean]

Yeah, it's probably a blast. You're pretty much chilling.

[Roan]

Everyone who I've talked to, who I've mentioned that I'm very, very nervous about it tells me that I'm playing with house money. That's not true.

[Sean]

No, not at all.

[Roan]

I'm not playing with house money. What?

[Sean]

Where would the house money be?

[Roan]

They're like, well, you already won it once. It's like, yeah. And now there's an entirely new competition happening.

[Sean]

Yeah. And the prize has what? Quadrupled.

[Roan]

Quadrupled.

[Sean]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Roan]

If anything, I was playing with pesos before.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sean]

Now we need this bad.

[Francis]

You're playing with Japanese yen.

[Roan]

We need it.

[Sean]

I think we should get a flock camera. If you win, just get out. Get one of our own. Because you said it said personal businesses have them. Like, we could have one. Just get one just mounted right there.

[Francis]

There.

[Sean]

We should record our podcast via Flock camera.

[Francis]

Or like, via a network of flock cameras. Like, we just travel in between flock cameras. I mean, 20.

[Roan]

We.

[Francis]

25 to $3,000 a year. Like, that's. That ain't that much.

[Roan]

Speaking of business, I saw Kelly Keegan standing on business yesterday with what? You know that guy Kareem?

[Sean]

Yes, the guy that we work with. The guy who's been here for, like, eight years.

[Francis]

He's the. Yeah.

[Roan]

Karim was giving her a hard time about talking about Austin.

[Sean]

Oh, really?

[Roan]

At this concert that they were at.

[Sean]

What a weird conversation for a concert.

[Roan]

No, no, that Austin was at.

[Sean]

Oh, you meant they, like, ran into each other at a concert and started arguing about Austin?

[Roan]

No, I don't think that's what it was either way. Kelly went, you. You know, you. She. She rises. She rises to the occasion. And I watched that happen, and I was like, yeah. She said to Kareem, she was like, what are you saying? Say that louder. Because then one of the people started. Robbie started filming, and then Kareem kind of wilted. Kareem was like, you're talking about my boy. And I went, gay. He's like, it's one of my boys. I was like, how many boys do you have, Kareem? I was doing that. I was ruining it for everybody. That's fun, but it was fun for me.

[Sean]

Yeah. No, I love it. Yeah.

[Roan]

But I was also. I was also de. Escalating by inserting humor into what was mounting into an armed conflict.

[Francis]

I think Kareem was the one who I was talking about yesterday that would cancel the. Cancel his door dash orders or say. Say they didn't get delivered.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah, that's not surprising.

[Francis]

At the risk of exposing myself to his burner army, Kareem said that he

[Roan]

grew up playing Call of Duty and that he was really, really good at it when he was younger.

[Sean]

Yeah, everyone is.

[Roan]

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[Sean]

People don't realize how much worse they are than these guys. Like, they don't realize, like, how good these people are. Like, the.

[Francis]

I don't know.

[Sean]

We don't got to get all into it, but, like, the. The difference between, like, like, so obviously our season's over and, like, we're going to have to get, like, a new roster and, like, rebuild and everything. Everything. And, like, people are, like, sending me clips of people who, like, play really well and, like, ranked play on Call of Duty. And it's like, every single person in challengers is. Would be the best person in ranked play. Even the worst players in challengers are the best players in, like, ranked play. Like, the skill Gap is not even. It just looks the same because they're playing against people who are the same skill as them. You know what I mean?

[Roan]

Sure.

[Sean]

Like, it's like if you were like. Like we had. Me and. Me, Bo and Matt were talking about last night because Bo started playing tennis and. Really?

[Francis]

Yeah, he's getting into tennis. Why'd you bury the lead? Bo's getting into tennis?

[Sean]

Yeah, he's getting into tennis.

[Roan]

Bono that I play tennis.

[Francis]

Yeah. You know, Francis is.

[Sean]

I'm. I'm sure. Yeah, he's getting into tennis.

[Roan]

Wait, does he, though?

[Sean]

I don't know.

[Francis]

Text him.

[Sean]

Text him.

[Roan]

Bo, you need to know right now. Yeah, maybe I'll.

[Sean]

I mean, he'll listen to this.

[Roan]

It's.

[Sean]

He listens to every episode.

[Roan]

Well, I'm playing tennis. I. I mean, I have always played tennis.

[Sean]

He listens to every episode, and it pisses me off so much.

[Roan]

It. Tennis runs in my family. My mom was an all American tennis player in college. What? Yeah. First class of women at Princeton. She was an all American tennis player.

[Francis]

Jesus.

[Sean]

That's pretty impressive.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sean]

So.

[Francis]

Yeah. What years was she at Princeton?

[Roan]

I don't know, 1950, something, something. No, that's when she was born. Must have been in the 1970s. Probably the late 1970s.

[Francis]

Damn. That was the first year of women there.

[Roan]

Let me look at. See what.

[Sean]

So Matt, his brother, is, like, insane at tennis. Like. Like, that's like all. Like, that was his whole life pretty much until, like, the last couple years. And Matt, therefore, is also good at tennis. And Bo was pretty much arguing that he thinks that he could. He could beat Matt in tennis after playing. I think he said he has played eight times and had two lessons. And I was like. And he was like, I can hit the ball over the net. And I was like, brother, there's a. There's. There's more to it than just that. Like, the. The skill gap is still massive.

[Francis]

Brag to you that he can hit the ball over the net.

[Sean]

He's lost. He's. He's completely lost.

[Francis]

Is he four?

[Sean]

He might be.

[Francis]

I can hit the ball over the net.

[Sean]

Yeah. That was his big standing point.

[Roan]

That's like, I'm never gonna play with him. He's way too far behind me.

[Sean]

Yeah, he is.

[Roan]

Bo, are you hearing this?

[Francis]

You.

[Roan]

I can't believe you. You could play tennis with me.

[Sean]

We were also debating if. What. What's a harder sport to get into? Golf or tennis?

[Roan]

Golf.

[Sean]

They said golf. I said, it's the same.

[Roan]

Getting to what I would call scratch in Golf, which.

[Sean]

I don't know, but we're not even talking about that.

[Roan]

I'm just saying to a proficient level or a high proficiency level in golf is far harder than a high proficiency level in tennis, in my opinion. Opinion.

[Sean]

I don't know. I know, but you haven't played. You've played golf at a much higher level than you've played tennis.

[Roan]

I don't know if that's true. I grew up playing competitive tennis.

[Sean]

Yeah, but you play golf against. You've played golf with professional golfers.

[Roan]

Yeah, I don't compete with them, though.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I'm just, like, there among them.

[Sean]

I don't know. The way that I saw. The way that I saw it in my head was like, if you're playing tennis against someone, even if, like, I. I think, like. Like, I feel like if Bo was to play tennis against someone who's really good at tennis, like, he would never even have seen the ball come at him that fast. Like, he wouldn't even know what to do with himself.

[Roan]

Yeah, he'd lose. 6, 060.

[Sean]

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like, it's not like, just because you can hit the ball doesn't mean that you're gonna be able to hit the ball against.

[Roan]

Yeah, but if I played match playing golf against a PGA Tour professional, I'd lose every single hole. Maybe I wouldn't lose every hole, but I'd lose quickly.

[Sean]

But you don't. So you don't think you would lose every. Every. Like, do you think.

[Roan]

I think that if I played Novak Djokovic in a full set of tennis on my serve, I might win one. One point. I might win one point per game. Per game.

[Sean]

I don't think you're getting a single point.

[Roan]

The thing is, is that I have a big serve. You're probably right. I probably.

[Francis]

Well, because he might have an unforced error, though.

[Roan]

I don't think my serve. I. I was. I had a big serve, but it

[Sean]

doesn't matter because he goes up against people with the biggest.

[Roan]

He's going to get everything back. Yeah, you're right. But I do think Francis has a big serve.

[Francis]

I don't think you're.

[Sean]

But this is, like, me being like,

[Roan]

my serve is so big that when, like. Like when I'm tired, they have to bring in people with small serves to.

[Sean]

You're not getting a single point.

[Roan]

It, like, makes people confused. My serve confuses me.

[Sean]

It doesn't. Your serve confuses people who don't play tennis. But if you were going up against the. One of the greatest Tennis players of all time. His serve would make, per. Your serve would make perfect sense to him.

[Roan]

You're not.

[Sean]

There would be no confusion about yourself.

[Roan]

I'm just saying, like, if I, I could hit a bomb flat serve out wide that would. One. Once. Let's call it once in a set. Once in a set. He might not get back. It might, he might just. He might not get it back. And there's a point.

[Sean]

It's possible.

[Roan]

It's. That's a point, right?

[Sean]

Yeah, that's possible. Possible.

[Roan]

I'll walk off a point. A game. I'll, I'd call it. I think I would win.

[Sean]

I think it's the same.

[Roan]

I could win four points in a set.

[Sean]

I think it's the same argument as people saying that if they were, if they were to get that 100 at bats in the MLB, they would get it. They would get a hit. I don't think they would.

[Francis]

Well, there's only one way to sort this out.

[Roan]

One hit out of a hundred at bats.

[Sean]

Yes.

[Roan]

Someone who's played baseball.

[Sean]

Not obviously not someone who's played it

[Roan]

like professional high school baseball.

[Sean]

High school baseball. I don't think someone's gay. They're getting a single.

[Roan]

But didn't Marty Mush, like hit a ball off that?

[Francis]

Marty Mush played in college.

[Sean]

D1.

[Roan]

Okay, so you're just discounting him?

[Sean]

Well, D1, college baseball is obviously closer to the MLB than high school baseball.

[Roan]

Sure, I, but he, he hit against that guy.

[Sean]

I just feel like, I feel like

[Roan]

it's just got a hit.

[Sean]

The professional is just, everything's just faster and, and, and perfect. Like I feel like you're getting up to bat if you're like someone who's confident that you could get a hit and then all of a sudden the ball comes at you faster than you've ever seen anything move in your life.

[Roan]

What do you think is harder? Returning an Andy Roddick in his prime serve or a Ben Shelton serve right now or hitting a 100 mile an hour fastball into the play?

[Sean]

It's, I mean, it's hard for me to say because the both of those are so insanely far fetched for me. I don't think I would do. I don't think I would make contact with either.

[Roan]

The only reason I would say tennis is because I've played tennis.

[Sean]

Yeah, I've never played tennis.

[Roan]

Whereas I'd have no frame of reference for hitting 100 mile an hour. I just close my eyes.

[Sean]

Yeah. I would be terrified in both scenarios.

[Roan]

I'd be less Terrified in tennis because you can stand all the way against the backstop.

[Sean]

Yeah, that's true.

[Francis]

Do you think I don't know that your mom was at Princeton at the same time as John Nash?

[Roan]

That's a good question. I don't know. She was. Class of 1973.

[Sean]

I don't want, like, I. I don't want to bring it back to video games again, but I'm going. My, my reference point here is that I've played Call of Duty my entire life. Right. Over probably 20 years, I've been playing Call of Duty. And I spawned in and that at that tournament and the people that I was playing against, it was like. It was like, like, you watch Professional Call, I watch the professionals play. And in my head I'm like, I could get it. Like, I could, could. I could. If I was. If I was dropped into a team with three other pros, I could hold my own. And then you get out there and it's like, you. Oh, my God. Like, I don't even know what's happening. Like this, like, the difference from people that do things professionally to people that have done things as a hobby, even like, like, very seriously.

[Francis]

Like, it's. If you drop someone on fourth mic with us right now.

[Sean]

Exactly.

[Francis]

They'd be. They'd be lost.

[Sean]

Exactly.

[Francis]

They wouldn't know. They wouldn't know what to say because they'd be like, whoa, what are we talking about? Willem Dafoe still.

[Sean]

It's just, bro. I feel like people don't remember that these people dedicated their entire life that

[Francis]

were goats top 200.

[Sean]

Like those people their entire life was dedicated to returning a serve.

[Roan]

None of this is. They take away from anything. All I'm doing is trying to decide whether or not I think the golf or the tennis is harder.

[Sean]

Yeah, it's a good. It's a good debate.

[Roan]

I. The man. It's crazy. Marty Fish had a very good interview excerpt that I saw about this Bo.

[Sean]

That's what I. Bo said he was Feder and I said, you're Marty Fish.

[Roan]

Marty Fish said something about. They were like, what's harder? Golf or tennis or something. And he said that winning a ma. I think it was like winning a major in tennis or winning a major in golf. And he said it was. He said that in tennis, it's so fast that you can't, like, adjust on the fly or like, it's over before you know it. It's all happening so quickly. Whereas golf, there's so much time to tense up and think about what's Happening and closing out a major. I think he ultimately came to the conclusion that winning a major in golf was harder.

[Sean]

Yeah, I could see that.

[Roan]

And this is a man who plays really good golf and obviously really good tennis.

[Francis]

His.

[Sean]

That documentary of Marty Fish was so good.

[Roan]

Oh, about his anxiety.

[Sean]

Yeah. Marty supreme got me. Got me through. Got me through a dark time.

[Roan]

I thought that was really good. And I also thought it was amazing when Andy Roddick said that he was the only player he'd ever seen who kind of in the later half, like, switched into that second gear.

[Sean]

Oh, yeah.

[Roan]

What it need. What you need to do.

[Sean]

Yeah, that was pretty interesting in order

[Roan]

to actually be that good, because I remember thinking that and being like, okay, well, so I just haven't found my second gear yet.

[Sean]

Yeah. You're still waiting to find it.

[Roan]

Well, I was. I always think about clicking into it. I'm like, some point soon I'll really put the pedal to the floor. And then you remind me that it's not cool to do that.

[Francis]

No.

[Sean]

I feel like I'm starting to hit my second gear.

[Francis]

Can you tell him what you were telling me in the car?

[Roan]

What is this?

[Francis]

That I don't know if I'm allowed to say it.

[Roan]

I don't think I want to talk about that yet. I think. I don't think I want to talk about that yet.

[Francis]

It was that it was news that was. It was the most excited that I've been of any news that I've received in 2026.

[Roan]

Very soon, very soon, I'll talk about that. If that becomes something, and even if it doesn't, then I'll tell how funny it was that I thought it would. But it's funny.

[Francis]

Talk about a fucking tease.

[Roan]

No, I'm not trying to tease. I apologize.

[Sean]

I feel like I'm being teased.

[Francis]

Do you feel teased?

[Sean]

I feel teased and I feel like a fool. I feel foolish and like an outsider.

[Roan]

I mean, maybe I'll tell you after we're done. I don't want to tell.

[Francis]

Don't even tell.

[Roan]

I don't want to put it out into the world because it's. It's like what Emperor. What Caesar says about Rome.

[Sean]

Rome, which is.

[Roan]

It was. It was Julius Caesar in Matt, in Gladiator, before the old man, before he dies, before Commodus kills him. And he's like, Rome was so delicate, you even. You would only whisper about it and it might disappear.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Is that him that says that?

[Francis]

No. And then he's like. And I'm bringing in some pipeline.

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I'M lost up Rome.

[Sean]

I'm completely lost now. Now all I'm thinking about is what this is.

[Francis]

You and me are good.

[Roan]

What this is.

[Sean]

What this is. Does it. Does this benefit.

[Roan]

The dream of Rome was so fragile that anything more than a whisper would make it vanish.

[Sean]

Is it. Is it something about the show?

[Roan]

No. Marcus Aurelius.

[Francis]

It's completely different.

[Roan]

Marcus Aurelius.

[Francis]

Aelius that said that. Uhhuh. No way. That was Aelus.

[Sean]

Is LeBron coming on the podcast?

[Roan]

This one?

[Sean]

I'm just trying to guess what. What this could be be.

[Roan]

No.

[Sean]

You're in touch with LeBron.

[Francis]

You see that Jaylen Brown went skydiving.

[Sean]

No, I didn't.

[Francis]

I'm out on him that he's not on the Celtics.

[Sean]

Yeah. And I don't watch him anymore.

[Francis]

He wants guys a bum.

[Sean]

Enjoy your Twitch streamer.

[Francis]

You're so hurtful, bro. And, like, I just don't know why

[Sean]

I'm rooting on that team's downfall.

[Francis]

Enjoy. When AJ Brown gets four catches for 30 yards and he goes on a janky Rondo.

[Sean]

We don't need A.J.

[Roan]

brown.

[Sean]

You don't. We don't need them.

[Francis]

Clip that.

[Sean]

We don't need them. Got. We got Booty.

[Francis]

Booty's getting traded, bro. Booty.

[Sean]

Come on.

[Francis]

Since.

[Sean]

Come on now. Booty's a patriot forever.

[Roan]

All right.

[Sean]

I'm expecting a big breakout year from Trayvon Henderson.

[Francis]

Do you see the stuff he's been saying about God? Of course. He with him.

[Sean]

Heavy with him. So heavy. And I love that.

[Francis]

I think he's making AI posts about God.

[Sean]

I think that God with Travy on heavy duty, too.

[Francis]

Really? Well, he wouldn't need AI to talk about God if he just could speak from the heart.

[Sean]

You think Trayvon's going AI?

[Francis]

It reads like an AI post about God. I hope not AI say something glowing about God. Actually put that prompt in.

[Sean]

Do you think I've kind of wanted, like, I've thought about this. Like, if you. Do you think if you. I know Ben Avery did this. He did. Like, he tried. Tried to get engagement. Like, he tried to, like, engagement bait enough on Twitter to, like, see how much money he could make. But I'm wondering, like, if you were to just, as a side hustle, just create a fully AI account, like, how fast do you think it would gain traction? And, like, how fast you think you'd, like, start making actual money with it?

[Francis]

It depends what type of AI you want it or what type of content you want to do.

[Sean]

I mean, there's really two options. Or like politics slash tech guy that doesn't exist on Twitter who just tweets things better.

[Francis]

But like that will require more input in your AI to create like realistic pictures.

[Sean]

Yeah, I think it's just like long ass essays on Twitter.

[Francis]

I think anti, like, like, like racial stuff I think would go crazy. Yeah, like, you know, there's like, you know how they in fight club when they like killed the guy and like 20 of them take took his place?

[Sean]

Yeah.

[Francis]

The same thing is happening right now with Chud the builder.

[Sean]

There's a bunch of new chuds.

[Francis]

There's Mexican Chud the builder.

[Sean]

No, come on.

[Francis]

That's a dude who's called Mexican. Chud the building.

[Sean]

Yeah, but you can't be Chud the builder if you're Mexican. It doesn't work.

[Francis]

I mean, it's working. He's just saying the N word to people's faces.

[Sean]

But it's a Mexican like that. People are expecting that already. The Mexicans say it more than black dudes say it.

[Francis]

He's almost white. Presenting honestly. All right, all right, good.

[Sean]

All right, we will see you guys next week. Thank you for listening. Goodbye.