Ball Knowers | Son of a Boy Dad: Ep. #326

Summary

Son of a Boy Dad – Ep. #326: Ball Knowers

Date: August 14, 2025
Hosts: Lil Sasquatch (Sass), Vibs (with Francis absent)

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Sass and Vibs take over a classic "Son of a Boy Dad" two-man format, focusing primarily on sports and football—what they dub a true “talking ball” episode. With Francis away at the Internet Invitational, the guys dive deep into NFL talk, share their takes on the upcoming season, and banter about everything from aliens and weird house artifacts to caffeine dependency and sleepers for fantasy football. The show is loose, comedic, irreverent, and full of ball-knowing bravado.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Classic "Duo" Son of a Boy Dad

• [03:26] Sass marvels at recording the podcast with just the two of them, reminiscing about early, rougher days and laughing about old awkward clips:

  "It's like watching myself in high school, pre-puberty..." – Sass [03:58]

• Francis is away at the Internet Invitational, and the hosts lament missing out, joking about not being “real” golf guys compared to some Barstool co-workers.

  "[Francis]'s at the invitational without us? I guess we’re just cut out from the invitational." – Sass [04:23]

2. Golf, Rich Guys, & Hobby Addictions

• [05:23] Joking about Barstool colleagues and celebrities’ obsession with golf ("rich guys always wind up addicted"), and how golf becomes a getaway for men.

  "You get to get away from your family. You get to walk around outdoors. Sometimes you get to wear, like, fancy, cute play dress-up outfits." – Sass [07:00]

• The guys debate whether they could ever “get into” golf, and Vibs mentions preferring fishing.

3. Caffeine, Sleep, and Weird Vacation Life

• [08:21] Both hosts get into their relationship with caffeine and sleep struggle, especially during vacation:

  "If I drink caffeine on a night where I get like four hours of sleep, I'm having panic attacks the entire day." – Vibs [08:21]

• Joking about sleep cycles ("nine is the same as five somehow") and vacation sleep deprivation:

  "Anything below four, I turn into, like, Donnie Darko. I, like, see, like, a rabbit in, like, a field...I glitch out." – Sass [10:44]

4. UFOs, Aliens, and the Cosmos

• [11:57] Sass shares a (misidentified) UFO sighting, sparking a debate on the plausibility of aliens.

  • Vibs admits youthful obsessions with UFO-spotting and being a "ghost guy."
  • They contrast the likelihood of alien vs. robot invasions; Vibs bets computers win out, with Sass calling it “crazy hubris” to believe humans are the most advanced [16:02].

• Discussion of the pop culture stereotype of aliens and people's fantasies of fighting or sleeping with them.

5. Weird House Artifacts & Sex Novelties

• [21:12] Sass describes finding a shot glass shaped like breasts in a family rental, pondering who such things are for, and riffing on international gifts of penis-shaped bottle openers.

  "It's the only shot glass in the house. This is like, exclusively like, we're renting this house from, like, a family...and there's just like, somebody’s getting off to, like, thumbing down a fucking shot glass." – Sass [21:55]

• Conversation sidetracks to tentacle and cartoon porn, speculating (comically) on the psychology and audience for these fetishes.

6. Drink Hype: Topo Chico & Seltzers

• [23:19] Discussion on the addictive quality of Topo Chico (mineral water), with stories about comedians going out of their way to buy it.

7. NFL Deep Dive: Over/Unders, Player Takes, and Fantasy Sleepers

Over/Unders Rundown

• Massive NFL season preview begins at [25:08]. The hosts go team by team, giving their picks for regular season win over/unders, sharing opinions on key players, giving comedy-driven and sometimes dead-serious analysis.

  • Each team gets a run-through, with Sass and Vibs’s (sometimes informed, often entertainingly half-admitted clueless) perspectives driving the discussion.
  • Regular jokes about not knowing ball and haters complaining:

    "If they're mad, it’s just because we said something bad about the team they like." – Sass [46:27]

• They note the dangers of second-year QB hype and the randomness of NFL performance.

• Examples of Over/Under Decisions:

  • 49ers: Under [32:58]
  • Steelers: Over [36:06]
  • Dolphins: Under [38:33]
  • Bears: Over, plus new coach hype [39:00]
  • ...full rundown given at [99:39]

• Specific team/player hype and shade:

  • Baker Mayfield / Bucs:

    "Their offense is insane... Baker Mayfield has to have one of the biggest dicks of any quarterback in the league." – Sass [30:21]

  • Hard Knocks is dead:

    "Nobody wants to be like, yeah, do you want to see, like, us cut players, the inner workings of our superstars..." – Sass [26:33]

Notable Football Takes

• Skepticism on “crowning” every second-year QB (“everybody can't be better”) [45:44]
• Chargers Harbaugh/McConkey optimism (until learning about left tackle’s injury): [78:41]
• Ravens and Eagles as “locks” to be strong [52:29], [77:32]
• Saints and Giants: projected as near-historically bad [61:26]
• Patrots optimism (bias acknowledged), with inside nuggets on pre-season form and special teams [95:14]

  "It's gonna be a new team. I mean, they're saying it's the best offense we've had in seven years." – Vibs [99:23]

Fantasy Football Sleepers

• [102:13] Segment closes with fantasy football sleeper picks:
  • Sass: Tyler Warren ("Penn State tight end. He's gonna be fucking sick." [102:23]), Jerry Judy, Lab McConkey, Neighbors, Tracy (Giants), Rashid Shaheed (Saints)
  • Vibs: Trayvon Henderson ("My sleeper pick of the year." [103:05]), Ray Davis (Bills), Tyrone Tracy (repeated)
  • Other: "Overdraft [Tyrone] Tracy if you get the chance." – Sass [105:43]

Full Over/Under Rundown

• At [99:39], Sass reads their picks for all 32 NFL teams in rapid succession—making this a quick reference/highlight of the episode.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "They love to see a white boy fail. You know, they love to keep a white boy down." – Sass on Christian McCaffrey hate [33:25]
• "Someone has to be bad in that division. It'll probably wind up being the Bears, but someone has to be bad in that division." – Sass, on NFC North [63:30]
• "Chiefs under 11 and a half. Not a serious organization." – Vibs [73:45]
• "We just painted a masterpiece parlay those boys. Give us a fat 32 team parlay." – Sass [100:50]
• "No, nobody actually does it like us. Nobody knows ball like us. I'm talking about all Barstool Sports." – Sass [101:43]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Time | |-----------------------------------------------|-------------| | Show begins (post-ads, cold open) | 03:09 | | Duo nostalgia and evolution of the pod | 03:26–04:23 | | Golf and rich guys’ obsessions | 05:23–07:21 | | Caffeine, sleep, vacation stories | 08:21–11:22 | | UFOs, aliens, robots | 11:57–17:24 | | Tentacle/cartoon porn debate | 18:42–21:12 | | Topo Chico talk | 23:19–24:50 | | Major NFL over/under rundown begins | 25:08 | | Fantasy sleepers discussion | 102:17–106:30| | Full over/under picks review | 99:39 | | Episode closes (ball knowledge claim) | 101:43 |

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Tone & Style

Loose, irreverent, and comedic. Sass and Vibs pepper serious football analysis with absurd tangents, self-aware jokes about their level of sports knowledge ("nobody actually does it like us"), and the kind of bro banter and juvenile humor (“dick or titties”) that defines their style. Direct snark, self-deprecation, and plenty of inside Barstool Sports references.

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In Summary

This episode is a high-spirited, fast-moving football preview and palette-cleanser—full of hot takes, long NFL debates, shameless tangents, and hilarious ball talk. It’s both a love letter and a roast to football culture, fantasy dilemmas, and bro-y obsessions, expertly blending genuine insight with their trademark Son of a Boy Dad brand of chaos:

"Nobody knows ball like us." – Sass [101:43]

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Transcript

[Sass]

Hey. Son of a boy. Dad. Listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Vibs]

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[Sass]

Check, check, check.

[Francis]

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[Sass]

Guys.

[Francis]

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[Vibs]

Oh, cuz, I didn't talk again.

[Sass]

Check, check, check.

[Vibs]

One more time.

[Sass]

Check, check, check.

[Vibs]

All right.

[Sass]

I just won't use these.

[Vibs]

All righty. All righty. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy Dad Podcast. Today it is. August 13, 2025, 1:12:45pm we are here live from the Internet.

[Sass]

You won't believe it, but it's a good old fashioned son of a boy dad. I honestly can't believe that we did the show. Just me and you, dude.

[Vibs]

Every time we go into it now, I'm like, what the are we gonna talk about? It is insane that we did that for so long.

[Sass]

That was just the two of us gabbing about something.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

What the. Have you ever gone back and like, even looked at old podcast clips?

[Vibs]

I've, I've watched a couple of them. Like, I've seen some and it's like the podcast is definitely better now, for sure.

[Sass]

Insanely so. It's. Honestly, I feel like it's like watching myself in like high school, like pre puberty, almost like, like, oh my God, I can't believe I sounded like that.

[Vibs]

It's like almost like embarrassing. Yeah, but it's like, but like the, the worst part is that it's like from like a year ago. It's like not even that long. Like, I'll watch a clip and I'll be like, oh, that's awful. And then it'll be like, oh, that's last episode. Yeah, that was 17 months ago.

[Sass]

It is funny, but Shout out to Francis. It's blossomed. But he's not here this week because he's at the Internet Invitational. He's at the invitational without us? I guess we're just cut out from the invitational.

[Vibs]

Just couldn't get it done. To be honest. I feel like I should have been invited to that over the Ryder Cup.

[Sass]

Why?

[Vibs]

I don't know.

[Sass]

Because you're a big, your Internet personality.

[Vibs]

Well, I'm more of an Internet personality than I am a golfer.

[Sass]

Yeah, but those are all golfers in the, in the invitation.

[Vibs]

They're all like, good at golfing. There's no one on that that like, sucks, I guess.

[Sass]

I don't know. Does PFT suck or does he play a bunch?

[Vibs]

Yeah, PFT doesn't suck. You would think he would. Like, that was the thing that like. Well, I guess I don't want to give anyway any spoilers, but you think all I'll say is everyone's better at golf than I thought. I thought everyone was going to be like, topping every. Like, I was doll. I topped everything. I suck at golf.

[Sass]

It's because they all play golf all the time. Yeah, everybody, I think. I don't, I don't want to make it a Chicago thing. But I'm pretty sure everybody in Chicago is just playing not only the simulator, but they're just getting out. Like, I think the yak ends and they're going to Royal melbourne and playing 18.

[Vibs]

Dude, when we. When we did the Ryder cup, we had. We stayed in, like, in like, condos on the court, like, by the course. I don't think any of that's going to be in it. They didn't film anything there.

[Sass]

It's just.

[Vibs]

Literally just where we were staying. But Jerry was going home.

[Sass]

Like, we were.

[Vibs]

We finished playing and we were leaving, and Jerry was taking the private jet with Big Cat, and he was going to play 18 holes when he got home, like, straight off the plane.

[Sass]

Oh, my God.

[Vibs]

I didn't know Jerry played golf like that. Apparently he plays, like, every day also. I don't want to. I would never say it to Francis, his face, but he's also way better than he lets on.

[Sass]

Francis? Yeah, Francis. I mean, he's one of the guys that's playing every.

[Vibs]

Every day. Every day. I don't know what he. What this talk about the book is. He's upstate playing golf.

[Sass]

He's not writing the book. He's writing for. With a miniature pencil. Have you seen that LeBron got into golf?

[Vibs]

Oh, yeah. He's addicted.

[Sass]

Everybody's like, why do rich guys always wind up getting addicted to. I think that it's pretty clear that anytime you fly over a City, like, 90% of any green real estate is golf courses.

[Vibs]

Oh, yeah.

[Sass]

Any big city that you fly out of Chicago, fly over New York.

[Vibs]

Oh, yeah. It's all.

[Sass]

You're going to see graveyards for 10% of it. And 90% of it is going to be the biggest, most like, luxurious golf courses. You get to get away from your family. You get to walk around outdoors. Sometimes you get to wear, like, fancy, cute play dress up outfits. That's half. That's what Foreplay's whole business model is built on.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Dudes like to play dreams, dress up as golfers.

[Vibs]

I mean, it's fun. Like, don't get me wrong, like, when we did it, I had a blast. Like, I get why people get into it, but, like, I don't know. I feel like there's like a. I feel like fishing kind of cancels out golf for me. Like, if I didn't fish, I would probably golf.

[Sass]

For me, it's marriage. I think I started golfing. My wife would be like, all right, you're done, you're out.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I mean, it's not. It's not really an easy thing to just, like, go out and play 18.

[Sass]

And that's why dudes get addicted, because, oh, yeah, they go out there and they see Obama and LeBron are better than them. Like Steph Curry and Patrick Reed, whoever they're playing with, are better than them.

[Vibs]

Hide in the label.

[Sass]

Show the ass of the can.

[Vibs]

It's a big can.

[Sass]

You carry it with both hands. Like drinking out of a canteen.

[Vibs]

I can only drink caffeine after getting a lot of sleep. I've. I've. I've become. I've. I've started to notice that about myself. If I drink caffeine as it's intended. Like, if I don't drink. If I drink caffeine on a night where I get, like, four hours of sleep, I'm having panic attacks the entire day.

[Sass]

Caffeine, like, masks the symptoms of tiredness. It doesn't cure the symptoms of tiredness. Yeah, I think water cures the symptoms of tiredness, but if you just crush caffeine, like, when you're really tired, you'll just become a caffeine addict who's, like, jittery, tired, on edge.

[Vibs]

It just makes me on edge and jittery. Like, if I. If I. Like, last night, I got eight hours, so I'm slamming, and I'm slamming an energy drink, you know?

[Sass]

Yeah. Just because.

[Vibs]

Why not?

[Sass]

But, yeah, why not? Just, like, double down.

[Vibs]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Just rip a nas.

[Sass]

On this vacation, these boys have been waking up every 45 minutes.

[Vibs]

Brutal.

[Sass]

It's so. It's like, I'm as tired as I've ever been. So if I try to put coffee on top of this, I'll kill myself. It will, like, tourniquet off my. My veins and I'll have a stroke.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I don't understand how people do that, because there are the people that are like, oh, I only got two hours of last night. Like, I need a cup of coffee stat. And it's like that. That a. It'll make me more tired. Like, if I drink coffee on that little sleep, I get more tired. It's also like, yeah, it's just not even an option.

[Sass]

Jackie was saying at the beach house she was getting three hours of sleep a night. But when people say that, are they dead serious or are people, like, exaggerating when they're like, I didn't even sleep last night.

[Vibs]

I don't know.

[Sass]

You didn't get three hours. You're at the beach house. You. It was three. Like, three to six. What's a realistic three hours. Four to seven.

[Vibs]

Four to seven. Three hours. Like, if I get a. If I get three hours, it's like, I'd say I have noticed. Or actually, no. I feel like I've gotten a little bit better, but I feel like six and eight are the exact same thing. To me.

[Sass]

Nine is the same as five somehow.

[Vibs]

Yeah, nine's worse than eight. And I can function off of five fine. Totally fine. I usually get a. Get a second wind at, like, nighttime. Anything below four is a problem.

[Sass]

Anything below four, I turn into, like, Donnie Darko. I, like, see, like, a rabbit in, like, a field, and it, like, I, like, glitch out. It turns into, like, memento.

[Vibs]

Yeah. He starts skipping frames.

[Sass]

Yeah, skipping frames is hilarious. Like, reading, writing on my arm, like, find a Polaroid in my pocket. I'm like, what the did I do? How did it get to this? But I need it. I need it badly. But, I mean, I don't know when I. I don't know when I can maybe I lock back in. Back in New York. I think just road game for the babies. They're not into it.

[Vibs]

No, I could see that.

[Sass]

I mean, doesn't hit the same for them.

[Vibs]

Yeah, getting dropped in a new environment probably throws them off.

[Sass]

I also got Josie in here. Josie's back here, just passed out on the ground. Can you see her?

[Vibs]

She like it?

[Sass]

Yeah, she's having the time of her life.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I'm sure she's out on the beach all day.

[Sass]

Yeah, there's a pool out back.

[Vibs]

Great weather. You're getting some great weather.

[Sass]

It's been great. But it started spitting today.

[Vibs]

Oh, really?

[Sass]

A little bit of mist. Just a little Sierra mist.

[Vibs]

I'm hearing storms out of New York on Thursday, so hunker down.

[Sass]

I was positive that I saw a UFO last night. Positive.

[Vibs]

It was. It was definitely SpaceX.

[Sass]

It wasn't space. It was like Space Force. It's the. It was the other one. It's like the first CIA. We. We found out what it was today. It looked like like a yin yang. It looked like a. Like a descending disc. It was like it had us thrown for a loop. What's your take on UFOs? You. Is this something that you're. You're curious about or like, would be excited about or believe in, or you think it's just.

[Vibs]

No, I believe in them. I don't. I wouldn't say I'm excited about it, but. But I'm like, when I was younger, I used to be. I was, like, fully convinced Like I had like a. We had like a telescope and I would try to find them. But no, I'm definitely a UFO guy. I mean, you know, I'm like a big ghost guy. So it kind of goes hand in hand.

[Sass]

What kind of telescope were you talking about?

[Vibs]

Just like a regular. Nothing. Like not one of those like insane ones that you like can't figure out how to use.

[Sass]

My buddy brought an insane one over the other day and he was like, you should like check it out. I'm gonna go downstairs and get a beer. And I just like was looking at.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I remember when we did Most Dangerous Games. There was in that big. In the mattress firm mansion. There was a massive one and I was there every night and I could not for the life of me figure out how to get it to not be just pitch black.

[Sass]

I know it's so. It's so complicated. But he came over with 15 different lenses and it's like reflecting off of aluminum foil. And he's using a like laser pointer. Like he has a scope on the moon and I can't even figure it out. But when he would line it up, like you could see someone like ducking behind the dark side of the moon. Like you could see everything.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I mean I want to. I would like to get like one of those sick ones. I mean even where you are, you're probably getting some pretty crazy stars, right?

[Sass]

Great stars, great moons. He could see the rings of Saturn.

[Vibs]

Oh yeah.

[Sass]

My dad was telling me that he went to some museum where Copernicus is original telescope was. And Copernicus is the one who figured out that Jupiter had a bunch of moons. But they said if you look through the telescope, it looks like you're looking through like a shitty binocular. Like it's like the same thing that pirates were using.

[Vibs]

Oh yeah.

[Sass]

See, land a little bit away and everybody's like, how the. Was Copernicus seeing this? Yeah, he had like 2010, like what's it. What, what. What was Copernicus. What the was he on?

[Vibs]

I don't know. Something. I mean, that's yet being able. Like those telescopes do nothing. Yeah, like the teles. The only telescopes I've ever used. I mean, that's all I've ever used. Like those are. They're worse than binoculars.

[Sass]

Who do you think would be more important to be nice to in the long run? Aliens if they came or just robots in general?

[Vibs]

I don't know if I believe in aliens in that sense of like, there's going to be like an invasion On Earth and they're like, I guess I just believe in that there's other, there's probably other living things in the galaxy.

[Sass]

Yeah, the, the odds that they wind up talking and looking like us are probably pretty low.

[Vibs]

Yeah. People seem to have a, like a pretty strong idea that it's just going to be like dudes with big green heads stepping off of a tentacle off of a stealth bomber.

[Sass]

Just taking a helmet off, putting it under their arm like they're Cuba Gooding Jr. In that diving movie. But. So you think your, your answer is. Is it's, it's computers? Robots?

[Vibs]

No, I mean. Or I guess, yeah. I mean, I also would say like the, considering that there's nowhere on, in the, in the universe that humans can go other than Earth, I would assume if there's other living beings out there, like, I don't. I think the odds that they can go to Earth or that they're more technology. Tech, technically advanced than we are is probably not that realistic.

[Sass]

You think we're the most advanced?

[Vibs]

Definitely.

[Sass]

That's crazy hubris, brother.

[Vibs]

I don't think so.

[Sass]

I think that that is big time hubris to think that we're the most advanced.

[Vibs]

I think we're the most advanced in this way. Like, I don't think, I don't think it's like there's another universe out there where they've got fucking skyscrapers and like people going in nine to fives.

[Sass]

Yeah, nine to five doesn't sound advanced to me though. Nine to five sound like ass. That sounds like I figured it out. Have like a four day work week. They probably have the three day weekend and like siestas.

[Vibs]

You're just describing Japan.

[Sass]

I'm describing Portugal. They have tapas, they eat shrimp. They're probably living alike. They probably live in this utopian society where there's Spanish women around all the time.

[Vibs]

I, I mean like the odds that they even have electricity are like slim to none.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Vibs]

Like, I think that's the thing that I don't know if I'm like, I, I wouldn't be surprised, I guess, if it, if it came to be true. But like, I don't think it's gonna be like a spaceship pulling up to Earth, landing just as a plane would land on Earth.

[Sass]

It's also funny that people think that aliens are like, they come all the way to Earth and then they're like, coy. They'll like be seen and then they'll like disappear. They're like, oh no, like, I don't want you to see me, like just.

[Vibs]

Teasing it a little bit.

[Sass]

Yeah, they'll just like peek their head out from the bushes and then like run away real quick. You'll be like, what the was that? It was an alien the entire time.

[Vibs]

The best. My favorite alien video that I've ever seen is the one was it in Vegas where they were like, there's a nine foot man standing in my driveway right now. Is it that Was it in Vegas or was it Florida?

[Sass]

I know that there's one from South America where there's like a nine foot man involved or something like that, but I'm pretty sure that that's a basketball player that they're talking.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Chris Bosch is in my backyard right now. I'm going to shoot if you guys don't get it over here right now. I'm shooting Chris Bosh. Chris Bosh me.

[Vibs]

I'm filling him with lead if you're not here in 30 seconds.

[Sass]

Yeah, that's got to be women's fantasy about aliens just getting by them.

[Vibs]

There's a lot of fantasies about like, about like killing things, you know? Like, I think people assume that aliens are going to show up and it's just going to be like open fire. Like we're gonna need. We're gonna need everyone with an AR15 on the front lines.

[Sass]

Yeah. That's why we're staying armed as a country.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Just in case we get to kill these aliens.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Because they're not protected in any way. But have you ever like, you ever see it? Like, I remember going to like the porn conventions when we did those videos early on at barstool and there's dildos that are like probably like 36 inch tentacle.

[Vibs]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Sass]

Like these suction dildos that's like this long tentacle. Like what, who is that fetish for? Is it for the woman? Like, is that for private use or is it for the woman to film? So a guy is into a guy wants to see a girl get by alien or a woman wants to like just bang an alien. Like they're, they're attracted or is like octopus. Like why, why is a tentacle interesting?

[Vibs]

I would assume that that is all fully created by men. Right. I don't think like any woman on earth has ever like. I don't think they were designing the tentacle dildo or like the alien dildos.

[Sass]

They probably get off to like good conversation and strong forearms.

[Vibs]

Yeah, Yeah. I think it's probably a dude who's like obsessed with like men in black and was like this Needs to become a part of my sex life as well.

[Sass]

Everybody's gonna love this. It has to be crazy to discover a new fetish that lots of people can get into.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Like, just being like, yeah, I love Men in Black. And now everybody's into to, like, Men in Black. Like the pug for Men in Black. Somebody or whatever. Yeah, they like.

[Vibs]

Or like a dude that's super into just like, you know, like the Simpsons, and he's like, oh, wow, there's. There's already a whole catalog for this.

[Sass]

Oh, everyone wants to Meg from. That's wild. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. What? Why? Yeah, why are dudes into cartoon porn?

[Vibs]

Just how you're raised, I guess. I don't know, though. I really don't know because, like, you would think, like, you kind of assume everyone that's into that is, like, freak, a freak. Like, you think of them as, like a basement dweller, Someone who's just like. Like, they're gaming. It usually goes hand in hand with gaming.

[Sass]

Right, right.

[Vibs]

People that are super into, like, the anime and the cartoon porn. But, like, I don't know anybody who's into that. And I play video games all the time and, like, my interest hasn't gone up. It's not like I've been playing Call of Duty and been like, oh, man, I gotta look up Call of Duty porn. I gotta. I'm. This is becoming sexual, how much I enjoy this game.

[Sass]

Like, well, I'm hard right now, so this has to be the reason I'm hard, because.

[Vibs]

Yeah, maybe, you know, maybe it's just because I don't play, like, rp, like, role play games. Like, maybe if you're a super into role play games and you just play by yourself all day, you know, maybe like, if you're playing, like, Zelda, maybe there's like a specific final boss that's really, you know, tickling your fancy.

[Sass]

There's definitely Zelda porn or, like, Elven porn. There's definitely busty women. There's a shot glass here at the shore house in Avalon, New Jersey. And there's a shot glass in this house that we're renting and just says Avalon, New Jersey, and it's just a pair of tits. Just.

[Vibs]

Yeah, why not?

[Sass]

It's the only shot glass in the house. This is like, exclusively like, we're renting this house from, like, a family. There's, like, family pictures all over the house, and then there's just like, somebody's getting off to, like, thumbing down a fucking A Shot glass. I don't. I mean, I guess it's fun and funny, but it's. It's funny to have it be part of a family house.

[Vibs]

Yeah. Not very family friendly.

[Sass]

Getting off your shot glasses.

[Vibs]

Yeah, just the dad's just cranking down to the shot glass every night.

[Sass]

It's a fun novelty though. Like, I've gone to other countries and gotten the bottle openers that are like shaped like a shaven, like big wood wooden dildo. Yeah, I've gotten those for people.

[Vibs]

Yeah, you can't go wrong with a little. I mean, when you're drinking, like there's going to be a dick involved somewhere.

[Sass]

It has to be dicker, dicker titties.

[Vibs]

Yeah. Especially if you're like on the shore. Expect to see some. Not human though, like more just drawings and animations.

[Sass]

Yeah, A carved. And it has like the one that I got from my one buddy. I mean they had them like just brown carved wood. But the one I got almost was like a Dia de los Muertos kind of vibe. Like these glow in the dark, pink and yellow dots all over it. It's kind of beautiful.

[Vibs]

Sounds great.

[Sass]

That sounds Muertos, like a bottle opener. I gotta get you one, brother.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I'd love one. Open up some Mexican Diet Cokes.

[Sass]

Yeah. Some Topo Chicos.

[Vibs]

Dude, Topo Chico is phenomenal. I might be switching over to Topo Chico.

[Sass]

Is there like a limit on how much you could drink? Because every time I have, when I feel so good that I feel like it's. I know it's like a drug, like it's like old Coca Cola that there might be like a little, a trace amount of Percocet in it or something.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I mean, I know a couple. Like, I know a comedian who drank Strictly Topo Chico.

[Sass]

Are they loaded?

[Vibs]

Yes. Do you know Rocky Dale Davis?

[Sass]

Of course.

[Vibs]

Do you really?

[Sass]

Of course.

[Vibs]

Yeah. He drinks Strictly Topo Chico and he'll come to the stand and he'll hack because he lives in Brooklyn, I want to say, and he can only get it. He goes to like a specific shop in Manhattan. So he'll do spots in the city and he'll go to the shop and get all of his Topo Chico's before. And he'll show up to the stand with like crates of Topo Chico like, like massive boxes filled with just the glass bottles.

[Sass]

How does he get him home? Is he just city biking? Stacked up Topo Chico's on top of his head. Like he's like some Nigerian merchant.

[Vibs]

He could be I mean, I could definitely see it.

[Sass]

Why can't you order them to your house?

[Vibs]

I don't know. He just, he. He explained it to me. I think it's like he found like, the cheapest way to pick up bulk topo chica. But I'm gonna have to talk to him about it because I'm. I'm definitely switching over. The glass bottle is game changer.

[Sass]

It's game changing. And the topo chico burp is like, unlike a regular burp, it like eeks out of you. Like, it's clearly. It's. It's going inside and it's busting up. It's basically Drano for humans. It is.

[Vibs]

It's like, yeah, you're getting rid of the toxins.

[Sass]

You're getting rid of the toxins. It's just dissolving something on, like the core of the. The core of the body. And I. I mean, it's beautiful. What we. What we really should be taking advantage of this. This pod is. We need to be talking ball.

[Vibs]

Yeah, we got to get into it. Seasons right around the corner. I'll tell you what, I watched the Bills Hard Knocks last night and I watched the first episode when it came out, one of the worst pieces of content I've ever laid my eyes on. And like, I was going into that, like, this is gonna be awesome. Like, I. I don't think I've been looking forward to a Hard Knocks like that. I mean, obviously the preseason ones aren't gonna be great. Like, but then again, I don't know, maybe I'm just comparing it to last year because the Saquon Giants thing was so fucking funny and like, such a good moment in Hard Knocks.

[Sass]

That was a mid season. Like, there was like the preseason Hard Knocks, I think, sucked ass last year as well. Like, was.

[Vibs]

Were the Giants not preseason.

[Sass]

It was. It was like the off season Hard Knocks. They tried it and then the Giants looked so dumb that nobody's ever going to do an awesome Hard Knocks ever again.

[Vibs]

Dude. It seemed like the Bills, like, it seemed like a. They straight up, like, didn't want to do it.

[Sass]

Nobody wants to do this. Nobody wants to be like, yeah, do you want to see, like, us cut players, the inner workings of our superstars, look at our depth charts and like, see our rookies embarrass themselves singing in front of. Yeah, that's the only good part is, like, rookies. It hasn't been good since Aiden Hutchinson on the line saying Billie Jean. Do you remember that?

[Vibs]

No, not at all. I didn't I definitely wasn't watching Hard Knocks then.

[Sass]

It's like three years ago.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I know, I know. In Hutchinson.

[Guest or Music Segment]

But.

[Sass]

Let'S do. I. I have a. Let's do. Can we do team over unders and do. Just go through the whole league?

[Vibs]

Yeah. I'm down.

[Sass]

How do I get to this? So also, this is. This is me and Sass. The two of us are going to be doing a. We're going to be doing a pick show every week called the Whiteboard of All Season. And It'll be like 10 minutes, and we're going to be picking every game, and we're going to be giving our reasoning for every game.

[Vibs]

It's pretty much just going to be what we did last year at the end of Boyd.

[Sass]

Yes.

[Vibs]

But we're going to make it a separate thing.

[Sass]

Just because A, Francis doesn't like that.

[Vibs]

Francis doesn't like talking about football, which is a total lie. That's what bothers me. But then b. B, then people won't have to, like, skip to the end of the show. Like, it'll just be out. It'll. It'll be there, you know?

[Sass]

Right. It'll be out. And we can.

[Vibs]

Because I think it's safe to say there's some people that would like to hear the picks, but don't necessarily listen to the entire podcast every week.

[Sass]

Yeah, I. I mean, I, I. Sorry. I'm trying to find the. The game by game on. On DraftKings. Yeah, I think that people just. There's a market for it. I think that obviously Sass's workflow is upped, but it's also like, we both want to do. We. We both want to talk ball regardless.

[Vibs]

Oh, yeah. I mean, it's. Yeah, it's easy. I. I just placed a future this morning.

[Sass]

What'd you find?

[Vibs]

Took the. Took the. The Bucks, which I did last year as well. This year, I'm more confident I took the Bucks to win the Super Bowl.

[Sass]

What?

[Vibs]

Yeah, nothing crazy. 100 bones.

[Sass]

What was it at?

[Vibs]

Plus 2800.

[Sass]

Oh, my God, dude. I mean, I guess that that's not a. That's. Honestly, it's not a bad pick if you're just going for. If you're swinging for the fences.

[Vibs]

I'm swinging for the fences. I like to get one swing for the fences. Last year was that the Patriots were going to win the super bowl, but I also had the Bucks Last year I had the Bucks, the Patriots to both win the super bowl, and then I had the Lions to go undefeated. How deep did the Lions Go not deep at all. They actually lost. One of their only losses was, I think in the beginning of the season. I thought about taking the Chiefs to go undefeated or to have the most wins, but I did. I can't.

[Sass]

Here's why. I think that, that that Bucks bet isn't a bad bet. I think that Baker Mayfield is turning the up. I think that they're, they're. Their wide receivers are stacked. They just added the dude from Ohio State.

[Vibs]

Yep.

[Sass]

They're loaded right there. Obviously bringing back Godwin. And they still have Mike Evans and they had the dude, Bucky Irving McMillan and, and Bucky Irving Bucky. So their offense is stacked.

[Vibs]

Their offense is insane.

[Sass]

Offense is insane. Their offense is going to put up points and Baker is that dude. I think their defense got better. I think adding Hassan Redick is going to be good for their defense. And I think that Baker Mayfield has to be. Has to have one of the biggest dicks of any quarterback in, in the l. In the entire league.

[Vibs]

I was talking to my buddies the other day and I was saying like, Baker Mayfield puts up like he's obviously. I don't, I don't know if he's as consistent, but like, dude, he puts up like Joe Burrow stats like most games. I had him as my quarterback on Fantasy last year. I had Joe Burrow and Baker Mayfield because we did the two QB league. Dude, Baker Mayfield is insane.

[Sass]

Insane.

[Vibs]

He puts.

[Sass]

And that, that offense. I mean, I don't want to say he's better than Jalen hurts, but he puts up insane throwing numbers.

[Vibs]

He puts up inside. I. That. That's the other bet that I placed. I placed Buccaneers to score one plus passing touchdown in every regular season game.

[Sass]

What was that? What are the odds of that?

[Vibs]

1600.

[Sass]

Good God Almighty.

[Vibs]

Too many odd. There's too many options.

[Sass]

I know. It's really an embarrassment of riches. All right, let's. Let's go through all the teams. Let's go through. Let's. Let's just start it. Let's start at the top. This is a random website. 49ers over 10 and a half. Over under 10 and a half.

[Vibs]

I, I honestly, I don't know if I know a lot about the 49ers right now other than they got rid of Debo and Ayuk. I would say under. To be honest, like right off the.

[Sass]

Bat, I think under two.

[Vibs]

I, I don't know what the odds are that McCaffrey is healthy and that he'll play. Like, I mean, I don't know. I feel Like, I kind of forgot about Mason.

[Sass]

I think they still have Ayuk and do they sign? But. But they lost Jordan Mason. They lost Hufanga. That's their safety. I think they lost. Did they lose Dre Greenlaw or something? I think they lost multiple guys on defense. They lost. No, they didn't lose Bosa. The other Bosa changed teams.

[Vibs]

Yeah, he's on the.

[Sass]

But I think. I think the under. I think the under for. For the 49ers under 10 and a half.

[Vibs]

Oh, my God. Okay. Iuk's not even. So he got. He must have got a knee surgery. It says Niners Brandon Aiuk return targeted for week six of regular season. So yeah, I would go under for sure.

[Sass]

Under 10 and a half because I.

[Vibs]

Mean, they had like a pretty mid season for what they were last year and they got rid of a lot of people.

[Sass]

And maybe Christian McCaffrey comes back, but, you know, maybe he doesn't.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I mean, he. When he came back last year, he was. Remember he came back for like 30 minutes and he was just tearing it up. Yeah, he had like two touchdowns. I think he could be sick.

[Sass]

But also it's tough. Like they just. They love to see a white boy fail. You know, they love to keep a white boy down. And didn't. Did they paid their quarterback? Did they pay Brock?

[Vibs]

Yeah, Brock Purdy got paid a lot.

[Sass]

So that's gonna. Them too, because now they can't afford anything. Brock Purdy's good. He's a seventh rounder.

[Vibs]

But they got Mac Jones, though, so keep that in mind.

[Sass]

Honestly, you gotta start collecting the Mac Jones jerseys.

[Vibs]

Oh, yeah.

[Sass]

You need to get last year's Mac Jones Jags jersey.

[Vibs]

And then I could probably find that right now for like $7.

[Sass]

And then the 49ers Mac Jones automatic.

[Vibs]

I. I mean, I was reading that apparently Mac Jones always wanted to play with Kyle Shanahan.

[Sass]

Yeah. Why wouldn't you?

[Vibs]

I don't know. So hopefully, you know, hopefully, hopefully Shanahan can turn around Mac Jones career. I'd love to see him thrive.

[Sass]

That's an easy under for me, though.

[Vibs]

Easy under.

[Sass]

Next up, we're going out of in no order, so people can't skip ahead to anything. Steelers 8 1/2 wins -120.

[Vibs]

I mean, that's a tough one. Immediately I want to go under just because I think Aaron Rodgers is just completely done. Those videos that I'm seeing of him in preseason are like, it looks like he has something like he has like a disability almost. He looks awful but again then Mike Tomlin's never had a losing season.

[Sass]

Yeah, they just. I feel like they just lock in at 9 and 8. But is this the year that they buck the trend?

[Vibs]

Who are their wide receivers?

[Sass]

Yeah, they just got DK Metcalf, but they got rid of Pickens. Then they have Calvin Austin, the little bro.

[Vibs]

Who'S their running back. Is it still Naji Harris?

[Sass]

No, they. Naj. It's. They drafted this dude, Kelden Johnson in the second round out of Iowa. And they also have the dude who used to be on the Eagles, Kenny Gwell. No, Kenny Gwell. And then they have Jaylen Warren too. So they have a couple running backs, but I can't tell if. If Caleb Johnson, the second round guy, is going to be good. Their defense is definitely going to be good.

[Vibs]

Yeah, their defense is sick.

[Sass]

They traded make a Fitzpatrick for Jalen Ramsey.

[Vibs]

So it's like I would say. I guess I would say because their defense is sick. So it's not like they're going to be giving away games. I don't know. That's a. That's a tough one.

[Sass]

Should we go over?

[Vibs]

Yeah, I'll go. I'll go over. I mean, I guess. Yeah. I mean, statistic like Mike Tomlin, I guess you really can't ignore that.

[Sass]

Even if Aaron Rodgers sucks, they just go back to Mason Rudolph and it's like the same vibe.

[Vibs]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sass]

Next up, Dolphins, 7.5 wins. Seven and a half wins. Are the Dolphins going to be good or the Dolphins gonna suck ass?

[Vibs]

That's a tough one too because, I mean, if the Dolphin. If Tua stays healthy, I would say the Dolphins absolutely go over seven and a half. But again, I don't know if two is gonna stay. I don't. I don't know if I really see a world where two stays healthy, to be honest.

[Sass]

And that guy, Dove Kleiman or whoever the dude. Yeah, he's. He is exclusively posting clips of Quinn Ewers, their backup quarterback, just destroying ass. Yeah, I don't even know if he sucks ass, but he really doesn't. Yeah, he's fine at Texas, but suddenly sucks ass for them.

[Vibs]

I don't know. I watched some of those. Like, it wasn't like I watched that. The dove thing. Like those, those throws weren't bad throws. It was just like that. They're. The corners were playing really well. They were on target.

[Sass]

Yeah, he's like, those are like tough throws to make to go over the middle like that. I mean, he's not just being a sideline.

[Vibs]

Merchant, how many wins did the Dolphins have last year?

[Sass]

I think it was around seven. I'm not positive.

[Guest or Music Segment]

Record?

[Vibs]

Zero.

[Sass]

Zero.

[Vibs]

No.

[Sass]

6 and 11 was it. It's probably 6 and 11. Makes sense.

[Vibs]

No, I was looking at. That was 2015.

[Sass]

Yeah. What was the record in 2015?

[Vibs]

6 and 10.

[Sass]

They were 8 and 9 last year.

[Vibs]

Okay.

[Sass]

So Vegas is saying, are they going to keep it at the same thing or are they going to take a mini step back? I could also see them sucking ass. Tyreek Hill wanting out and Mike McDaniels getting fired.

[Vibs]

Immediate. Like. Like, I could see that. If Tua gets hurt, that will. I feel like that will happen.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Vibs]

But then again, like, dude, their offense is sick. It's just. It fully depends on Tua having to be healthy, which, like, he's one head tap away from retiring.

[Sass]

Yeah. If someone, like, breeding's on him. Wrong.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

If he gets an offender bender, he could die.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

So should we go under?

[Vibs]

Yeah, let's go under, especially. Cause I feel like the Patriots could beat them. The Bills will beat them. I guess it kind of comes down to the Jets. Yeah, I'll go under. I would go under.

[Sass]

We'll get to the Jets. Bears. Over. Under. I'm seeing 8.5 right here.

[Vibs]

Oh, I like the over on that.

[Sass]

Over 8.5.

[Vibs]

Yeah. Tell me why I feel like Caleb is good. You know, I don't. I. I really didn't think last year I. I definitely don't think I came away from that being like, j. Caleb sucks. And also they got. What's his name, Brian Johnson. At a head coach now.

[Sass]

Yeah, Ben Johnson.

[Vibs]

Ben Johnson.

[Sass]

Yeah. He seems like he's whipping the boys in his shape.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I mean, if it's anything like what he did with the Lions, except I feel like I might have seen a video of them trying out one of his trick plays and it was like a total disaster.

[Sass]

Yeah. Someone shit themselves in the middle of it.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know if he's going to be able to replicate what he did with the lines completely because that, like that fake fumble that, like, Gibbs did amazing.

[Sass]

Or, though I don't. Was a play where, like, J.R. goff pretended to fall over.

[Vibs]

Yeah, it was that one. It was the. Yeah.

[Sass]

That was a fake fumble.

[Vibs]

They faked a fumble and then like 10 passes.

[Sass]

They had running back passes even in the playoffs. Like, they were putting up insane numbers. If their defense is just like. Or. Or. Yeah, the. The Lions were. But yeah, the Bears.

[Vibs]

How is the Bears defense? Is it solid?

[Sass]

I think It's. I think it's decent. They have that. Jalen Johnson, their cornerback is a stud. I think they got. They've like a nice little, little safety situation. Montez sweat coming back at the end. I think it's. I think it's solid. It's the. It just depends on what you think is going to happen across that. That north is going to be tough in general. Yeah.

[Vibs]

Who's that? It's the Lions, the Vikings and the Packers.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Vibs]

Oh, I could see the Bears being better than the packers for sure, because I don't think the packers are that good to begin with.

[Sass]

I love that. Okay. Over eight and a half, we're locked in on that. It's plus money too. It's like plus 10.

[Vibs]

Their schedule. Lions Week 1. L. Raiders win, Saints win, Bengals maybe Vikings win, Eagles loss, Browns win. Yeah, I go over eight and a.

[Sass]

Half because that's four wins. That's four wins by week seven.

[Vibs]

You think they'll beat the Vikings?

[Sass]

It depends on how good J.J. mcCarthy is.

[Vibs]

I think he's gonna be mid.

[Sass]

Really?

[Vibs]

No, I don't think he's going to be bad. Like, I've seen. I've watched some of his. His tape, but he looks good. Like his arm's not bad. But he's also never played in an NFL game.

[Sass]

It's also to just get all of our information from Dove Kleinman. Dove Climbing, loves to post about that fat dude on the Tampa Bay Bucks. And it's like you could tell how bad he wants to play.

[Vibs]

Oh, that was weird.

[Sass]

As. Dude, he's posted that same, same post like 20 times.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I saw that one when he, he was like. He was like heartbreaking.

[Sass]

You could tell how bad he wants it and it's just like a guy walking across grass. He wants.

[Vibs]

You can tell he's devastated he's not playing. Yeah, it's like, doesn't he just have to lose weight?

[Sass]

Doesn't he work out for a living and lose weight?

[Vibs]

Stay in the gym for 10 extra minutes?

[Sass]

Yeah, it'll be so easy. Just wear one of those, like trash bag sweatsuits and you should be good.

[Vibs]

Yeah. Yeah, I'll go. Bears over Lions.

[Sass]

Over 10 and a half plus 110. I think people are counting on the lines to get worse because Ben Johnson is gone. OC Aaron Glenn's gone at D.C. but I mean, if they have any luck in the injury world from last year, like, they will be better.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I. I don't know if I see them going under 10.

[Sass]

Under 10.

[Vibs]

I mean, regardless of them losing Ben Johnson, they still have Jared Goff, Amon, Raw, Gibbs. I mean, Gibbs alone is like three wins. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I don't know. Can you, can we go over for every, every player and. Or every team in the same division? Was that even statistically? Like, is that even mathematically possible?

[Sass]

No, that doesn't.

[Guest or Music Segment]

Or.

[Sass]

I guess everybody could. But you just said you don't like the Packers.

[Vibs]

Yeah, true. I don't like the packers, but I don't know what they're over. Under is, I guess. Yeah, I would go over on the lions. I mean, 10 wins, that would be an ins. Disappointing season for them if they went. If they got nine wins.

[Sass]

Yeah. That would be brutal. Hang on. Broncos are next up. Nine and a half.

[Vibs]

I guess. O over, right? I don't know a ton about the Broncos. I don't know. I'm not really sold on Bo Nicks.

[Sass]

Okay, talk to me. I. I like this take.

[Vibs]

I mean, he's got a cannon. Don't get me wrong. He's got a laser. But he also, like, I don't know how, like, he had a lot of interceptions.

[Sass]

I like this. I. I think that the under is on the table for the Broncos. I think everybody's so eager to crown their ass. They had a good defense last year. Sir Tanza, Beast. Nick Bonito is a beast, but I, I'm not their running back. RJ Harvey, like, that's a question mark. He's a rookie. He could be great, but he could be mid. Like, they gave Courtland Sutton Wide Receiver 1. Money. But is he definitely a wide receiver one? He might be like, you know, you might need another, like, stud wide receiver next to him.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

I don't hate Broncos under nine and a half.

[Vibs]

The problem is their defense is crazy.

[Sass]

It's so good.

[Vibs]

What did they go last year? I mean, they squeaked into the playoffs last year. See, 2024.

[Sass]

They squeaked in. Huh?

[Vibs]

Why is it so hard to just find the record?

[Sass]

It's not right. People are crowning Sean Payton's ass, but it's like every second year quarterback is going to be better. Like, I feel like that's what people are like. Okay, Jaden Daniels, top five quarterback in league. Caleb's going to be better. J.J. mcCarthy. Like, he looks like he is a rocket arm. Like, people love Michael Penck. Everybody can't be better. Yeah, the whole class can't be sick. Even the Broncos get nine wins. You know, that's good. But like, are the weapons there? Their defense is sick. But Are the weapons there?

[Vibs]

I don't think so. I think we go under. I mean, they went. They had 10 wins last year and that last win was they played against the Chiefs third line.

[Sass]

So there's definitely going to be a lot of allegations of us not knowing ball. But I just have to remind people that if they're mad, it's just because we said something bad about the team they like. And if. And if they're not mad and they think we do know ball, it's just because we were talking positively about the team that they.

[Vibs]

True. Like, true. I mean, I would say, like, you know, I like the Broncos.

[Sass]

I like the Broncos. Right. Their uniforms are cool. John Elway's the dude.

[Vibs]

Oh, Nick's is cool. Yeah. I mean, they're good. I mean, they're. They're corner. Who's that corner that they got? It's like the best in the league.

[Sass]

Patrick Surtain.

[Vibs]

Yeah. So, yeah, let's go under Hammer the. Under them are the under.

[Sass]

Hey, ever. You know, baseball town. That's a Rockies town.

[Vibs]

Yeah, exactly.

[Sass]

Buccaneers nine and a half over.

[Vibs]

Hammer it. I actually love that. Over nine and a half for the Bucks.

[Sass]

That.

[Vibs]

That's the ultimate disrespect. I think the Patriots are more than that. Oh, we're getting bucks Eagles Week 2. That'll be a banger. I know you guys are afraid of. M afraid of Baker. Eagles killer.

[Sass]

Yeah, we've got smoked by them like every second week. Or like we. We. It's like five times in a row that we get smoked by them early on in the season. It's hot. It's sticky. He truly is the Eagles killer. Yeah, like they beat us last year. They beat us the year before. They beat us in the playoffs before that with Brady. Did they beat us in the playoffs? They beat us in the playoffs with Baker.

[Vibs]

Yeah, they did. Last two years ago. Two years ago they knocked you guys out. Yeah, I would definitely go over on the Bucks. That's a given, though. That's free.

[Sass]

Yeah, that's free money. I mean, that's a. Yeah, that's a great one. Let's look at Texans. Texans nine and a half. Texans over nine and a half. What do we think? Plus 100.

[Vibs]

A lot of questions there. So Stefon Diggs is gone. Is Joe Mixon gone? I think Joe Mixon's gone.

[Sass]

No, he's not gone.

[Vibs]

Is he not. Is he suspended? Didn't something happen with Joe Mixon or am I making that up?

[Sass]

I think that he. He like assaulted a hotel worker or Something like that.

[Vibs]

Something like that.

[Sass]

There's something juicy going on with Joe Mixon. Or maybe he just got hurt. Maybe he got.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I think he might have just gotten hurt.

[Sass]

Okay, maybe he got hurt, but I.

[Vibs]

Think he might be back week one. He's got lower leg issues. I mean they lost Diggs. Tank Dell I would assume is out. Right?

[Sass]

He's out. They still have Nico Collins, who's a beast. They drafted two wide receivers from Iowa State. They got rid of Laramie Tunsil on the offensive line and Kenyon Green. So multiple offensive linemen and the window.

[Vibs]

Don't. Can't forget about Stroud. Sophomore slump.

[Sass]

Stroud had a sophomore slump, but he still won a playoff game.

[Vibs]

He did. He played very well on that.

[Sass]

But.

[Vibs]

But he was really bad at the end of the season.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Vibs]

And that was before Tank Dell got hurt.

[Sass]

That's why we can't be crowning these second year quarterbacks and being like they're automatically going to get way better.

[Vibs]

Oh yeah, Bo. Nick.

[Sass]

People thought Bo Nix was gonna suck ass then he was like pretty good, like a bit above average. And people were like, oh, he's incredible.

[Vibs]

Yeah. But also like, was he above average or did he just have like. He got put into a phenomenal position.

[Sass]

And, and that's the thing with like C.J. stroud. I think after his first year everybody's like, oh, he's top five. And then like, I mean, he's not in the conversations right now being top five.

[Vibs]

No, not at all.

[Sass]

If their offense, offensive line gets really good, I mean, their pass rush is sick. Stingley is sick.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

But I feel like we're leaning towards under on this. Are we or.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I mean, nine and a half. I'm leaning under just because, I mean, another thing though to consider is that their division is dog also with these.

[Sass]

Bets, people are going to want to go over on everything anyway. So more Unders. It doesn't make sense to me, but I like it. Let's go Texans. Under nine and a half. Everybody can't be winning 10 plus games.

[Vibs]

No, exactly. But also, I don't know, maybe we do go over because they're. I mean the Colts, the Jags and the Titans. That's the worst division in the NFL right now.

[Sass]

Yeah, that's bad.

[Vibs]

Colts, Jags, like, I kind of think they destroyed all of those teams outside of maybe the Jags, but they could.

[Sass]

Destroy all those teams and win nine games. Still true. What's the rest of their. What's the rest of their schedule look like? You see.

[Vibs]

They got bucks. Week one, that's an L. Titans. Week two, potential dub. Seahawks dub. Broncos dub. Maybe Titans again.

[Sass]

That could be early game of the year. Texans, Broncos. Week four.

[Vibs]

Yeah, it's a good game.

[Sass]

Circling.

[Vibs]

Texans, Texans, Bucks. Remember Texans, Bucks. Last year, that one that went to like OT Shootout? Yeah, that was a fucking banger.

[Sass]

We could have a shoot out there.

[Vibs]

Cardinals, Texans, Texans, Chargers, Texans, Jags, they have a pretty easy schedule, except later of the season they're going Ravens, 49ers, Jags, Bills, Chiefs, Raiders, Colts, I think over, to be honest.

[Sass]

All right. All right. Our first flip flop. Texans are going over. Okay.

[Vibs]

Eagles. What's theirs?

[Sass]

11.

[Vibs]

I'd go over immediately.

[Sass]

Yeah, I think we gotta go.

[Vibs]

I don't really know if I see a world where the Eagles don't make it to the super bowl again, to be honest.

[Sass]

No, that's not true.

[Vibs]

Unless like Hertz completely collapses and like goes back to his old ways. But they're fucking stacked.

[Sass]

Well, all they have to do is not make mistakes. It's not even like the old ways. They just have to stay healthy and not make mistakes and they'll be all right because the team is good. But I also do. Did you see their backup quarterback in the preseason game? Their backup quarterback might be like top 15 in the entire league. Tanner McKee, he was 20 for 25. He came in and he won a game last year. Like he's going to play this year and whoever he's playing that week, they're winning.

[Vibs]

Damn.

[Sass]

I believe in it that much. Okay, so Eagles over 11 and a half. Yeah, lock it in. Colts over seven and a half. Keep in mind that we've done nine teams and we have six overs and three unders.

[Vibs]

It's not a terrible ratio. I, I like that. Okay, Colts is a tricky one because I'm getting a lot of bias is the problem. My, my sister's fiance is a die hard Colts fan, so I'm hearing a lot of intel from him.

[Sass]

What is he saying?

[Vibs]

I'm seeing just. I'm seeing the opposite online.

[Guest or Music Segment]

And.

[Sass]

Their quarterback situation cannot be good.

[Vibs]

It couldn't be worse. I mean, really, like I Honor, I genuinely think the Browns might be in a better, better spot than the, than the Colts, the Colts.

[Sass]

Even the fans are acting like Daniel Jones wasn't the same Daniel Jones that was on the Giants and was like, yeah, people on the Giants.

[Vibs]

I could see like an uptick in Daniel Jones. Like I could see like a little spark in him. Just because new team, new Year. I mean, he's probably thrilled to be out of the Giants. Like, clearly he wanted out of the Giants, so. But they're gonna be a bottom team for sure.

[Sass]

Yeah. That's Colts under 7.5. It has to be seven because even if he, if he won seven games, I'd be like, that was a really good year by Daniel Jones. And.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I mean, they don't have. They have like a couple weapons. They've got like, what, Jonathan Taylor, Pitman's. Yeah, they've got some weapons, but they don't have an. It's. They're not even like, it's not even a situation where it's like the team around them is good. They just need a good quarterback. They got a lot of holes.

[Sass]

Yeah. Or. And even just their good players aren't like, they're good, but they're not like.

[Vibs]

They'Re not like superstars.

[Sass]

Yeah. They're not changing how I see everything. Colts under 7.5. Commanders up next. Commanders 9.5.

[Vibs]

It's a tough one. I'm leaning. I mean, they were really good last year.

[Sass]

Are they keeping oldest team in the NFL by like a year and a half?

[Vibs]

Yeah. I was gonna say, are they keeping.

[Sass]

McLaurin McLaren still holding in?

[Vibs]

He's holding. He's holding in.

[Sass]

He's still holding in. He's still doing a hold in.

[Vibs]

I could see, I don't know, I. I could see maybe a little bit of a sophomore slump from Jaden Daniels. I don't know if he's going to be able to hold up with that, like, end of the game comebacks. Like, I don't know how consistent he'll be with that again.

[Sass]

Right.

[Vibs]

I mean, McLaurin was not really, like he sucked at the end of the year, kind of. Maybe it was just me because I had him on fantasy. But.

[Sass]

Their running back situation is not good. They're very old. People just love that. McDaniels is like amazing. But they won a bunch of games like very flukily last year. That being said though, like, 10 wins is not that many wins. And like, it's tough because they made.

[Vibs]

It to the NFC Conference championship. Yeah. So it's like, it's hard to go under 10.

[Sass]

So should we just go over?

[Vibs]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Sass]

9.5.

[Vibs]

Let me look at their schedule.

[Sass]

Walk us through the commie schedule. Playing a second place schedule.

[Vibs]

Giants Week 1, Raiders Week 2, Packers Week 3, Falcons, Bears, Chiefs, Lions again, Broncos, Giants, Cowboys. Ah, yeah, I would go over.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Vibs]

I mean, they're. Jaden Daniels is really good. It's I think it's kind of, like, entirely dependent on him, though. Yeah.

[Sass]

If he gets hurt, they. They could sneakily be like a bottom.

[Vibs]

A dog team.

[Sass]

Like, really bad.

[Vibs]

Yeah, yeah. Because it's not like they have, like. I mean, Terry McLaurin's good, but what is he, 30? He's what, 33?

[Sass]

34, I think younger than that, but still. And then they added Debo, who's, like, probably weighs 300 pounds.

[Vibs]

Yeah, he's dog. He's only. Terry McLaurin's only 29. I was way off on that.

[Sass]

They added Laramie Tunsil. Laramie Tunsil makes their offensive line better. They got Bobby Wagner still Zach Ertz, Frankie. Who's good, I bet. I mean, if he stays healthy, they'll be good. They'll win 10 games. If. If he doesn't, they'll just be like, where they were right before he was drafted. There's not, like, that much talent on that team.

[Vibs]

No, no, I would agree. I mean, who's their running back? Brian Robinson. What's his name? Brian Robinson. He's not great.

[Sass]

Yeah, he's not great.

[Vibs]

Didn't Dave bet him to score, like, every game last year?

[Sass]

Maybe, but he's. I mean, he was good at Alabama. I heard one of their radio hosts being like, he was on the sideline in the first game wearing a chain and bright colors. He was, like, furious. Like, you're fighting with a seventh rounder. You don't see Zach Erz doing that. You're fighting for your roster spot against a seventh rounder. He's wearing a chain. Thank you. Things are bad.

[Vibs]

Just blatantly racist. Yeah. You don't see Zach Erz doing that. But the.

[Sass]

The white dude who's never wore a chain in his life except for a small cross that he got at first communion, this thug, Brian Robinson. Yeah.

[Vibs]

I would go. I would go over for Commanders.

[Sass]

Giants over under five and a half wins.

[Vibs]

Under. Hammer it under. And I like it.

[Sass]

You think they're gonna suck ass?

[Vibs]

I think they're gonna be dog. I think Jackson Dart's gonna suck. I could be wrong. You know, I would say Tyrone. What is Tyrone Tracy Jr. Yeah. He's filthy.

[Sass]

He's good. Because then they drafted the white boy from Arizona State. Scattered, and everybody's like, well, he's obviously winning rookie of the year, but that's the same. That's like the opposite of wear a chain. It's like, bet on him because he's a white running back.

[Vibs]

Yeah, yeah. I don't know. I mean, he's kind of a beast.

[Sass]

But I think Tracy is a beast, too. I think.

[Vibs]

I think Tracy's really Tracy.

[Sass]

I think Malik Neighbors will probably get like 200 targets. Like, he's going to catch 120 balls easily just because they're just going to be pitching it to him. And I think that Abdul Carter is going to be a beast, but.

[Vibs]

Oh, I totally forgot to have Abdul Carter.

[Sass]

Abdul Carter, Kayvon Thibodeau and Brian Burns.

[Vibs]

And yeah, that's pretty solid.

[Sass]

Dexter Lawrence. I mean, their D line is nasty.

[Vibs]

Their D line's sick, but it's more. I mean, their quarterback situation is.

[Sass]

Yeah. If Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston and Jackson Dart and. And Tommy DeVito. Yeah, like, maybe Jackson Dart will be sick, but. And I know he's a Birds fan growing up, but I bet they'll start Russell Wilson. I bet they'll lose, like, you know, four of their first six games with him. Then they'll give it over to Jackson Dart. They'll be growing pains.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I mean. Yeah, it's kind of like a rebuild year. I would go under.

[Sass]

Under Saints. Four and four and a half. Under.

[Vibs]

Under. Yeah, they're not. I mean, they're.

[Sass]

They're going to be one of the worst teams that the NFL has ever seen.

[Vibs]

Who's their quarterback right now?

[Sass]

Tyler Shuck. They got this in the second round. Who. Who looks like it's his first time playing football. He looks like he won a contest.

[Vibs]

Yeah. They're gonna suck.

[Sass]

And they're.

[Vibs]

What's his name retired, too?

[Sass]

Cam Jordan.

[Vibs]

No, they're running back. Didn't the running back retire Camara? Yeah.

[Sass]

Did he. I thought he was still in the league, but regardless, it doesn't. It doesn't matter if Barry Sanders. They could have Jesus on the day that he walked on water out there.

[Vibs]

And they're gonna suck.

[Sass]

They're gonna be one of the worst quarterback situations we've ever seen.

[Vibs]

It's just not a good time to be a Saints fan. Consider switching.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Vibs]

Consider picking up a second team for the year.

[Sass]

Saints aren't doing it for you. They're gonna. It's gonna be funny how bad they are. Yeah. The packers, nine and a half.

[Vibs]

I'm going under. I think this is. Jordan loves collapse year.

[Sass]

Yes.

[Vibs]

I think this is the year of the collapse.

[Sass]

Backers under 9.5 and I have no reasoning behind it.

[Vibs]

So we can just go to the next team. I guess.

[Sass]

I absolutely love it. Why not, dude?

[Vibs]

Why.

[Sass]

Why not him to collapse?

[Vibs]

I mean, I just feel like the. I don't Know, I mean, I feel.

[Sass]

Like the Bears high expectations for him. I think last year people were excited about him and then he was like, what, did he get hurt a little bit last year? He got hurt receiver that they drafted in the first round. Golden. I don't think that the rest of their receiving core is that good. I like Jacobs. They're running back.

[Vibs]

Jacobs is all right.

[Sass]

But Jacobs, I just like the under. Someone has to be bad in that division. It'll probably wind up being the Bears, but someone has to be bad in that division. Like, they can't all be like 10 plus win teams.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I mean, but you don't think it could be the Vikings?

[Sass]

Vikings could be bad. Vikings.

[Vibs]

I feel like the Vikings have a better chance of sucking than. Than the Bears. But the problem with the Vikings is like, obviously they have. They have. What's his name? Jefferson. Isn't Addison. I think he's suspended.

[Sass]

Yes. For drunk driving. He drunk drove into a. Or. Yeah. He like fled the scene or he hit like a hotel worker with his car or something like that.

[Vibs]

Yeah, something like that.

[Sass]

Something vicious happened with the hotel worker.

[Vibs]

He suspended for three games. So Packers. I'm going. I. I think we stick with under nine for backers.

[Sass]

Under nine and a half. So nine could still even be a good. You know.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I could see them getting nine.

[Sass]

I could see them getting nine. Browns five and a half. Plus 125. Over five and a half is plus 125.

[Vibs]

I'm hearing that Shador is still. Is still not. I actually think I heard that Chador got hurt.

[Sass]

Yeah. He heard his oblique today, I think.

[Vibs]

Yeah. And then what? So they're gonna have Joe Flaccos. They're having Joe Flacco starting.

[Sass]

They're gonna win four games.

[Vibs]

I think they'll win four. I mean, they do have good players, but.

[Sass]

But. But it's over five and a half, so. Yeah.

[Vibs]

I mean, they're not even in there. Like their division is so good. Yeah. I mean, under four and a half is crazy. Or is it five and a half or four?

[Sass]

Five and a half. Five and a half.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I would go under.

[Sass]

Yeah. Though in five games. Because even if Shador. I mean, Shador will have some growing pains, but I don't think he's gonna. He's not gonna deal like that.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

I also don't know about the dude they drafted in the first round. The. What was it? The D tackle from Michigan. Maybe he'll be sick. Actually, I haven't seen anything that he's doing? It's Mason Graham. Good. I don't know.

[Vibs]

I got a piss real quick, though.

[Sass]

I actually got a piss, too.

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[Sass]

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[Sass]

We just hit the browns under. We're on the raiders six and a half.

[Vibs]

Oh, I go over.

[Sass]

Yeah, I love that.

[Vibs]

I think they'll be decent. I don't think they're going to be a super bowl team, but I think they'll. They'll. It's not going to be like, it's not gonna. I don't think it's gonna be like the raiders last year. I mean, I'm not a huge geno Smith guy, but he's at least, like, capable of winning games.

[Sass]

Yeah. Adding him and genty and Brock bowers shaved his head.

[Vibs]

Brock Bowers is going to be insane. I. Dude, I saw that shaved head and I. He might be a 1 1. He might be a. He might be a first overall, dude. Oh, you're muted.

[Sass]

He might be first overall. Holy. Yeah, he's sick there. He's only a tight end, not a wide receiver because he's a white boy.

[Vibs]

Yeah. 100. If it was a monster.

[Sass]

If he was the same body size, body type and stats.

[Vibs]

Oh, yeah.

[Sass]

As like, just like a shaved head. Black dude. Yeah, that's Calvin. We're talking about Calvin Johnson right now.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

100.

[Vibs]

He's sick.

[Sass]

Yeah. They're gonna be nasty. New coach, new vibes.

[Vibs]

Brady. Brady just on the field with them.

[Sass]

Yeah. Brady deflating balls on his own on the sideline kissing Brock Bowers on the mouth. Jaguars over under seven and a half.

[Vibs]

That's the million dollar question. The Jags, I mean everything, everything would believe me to say or would lead me to say over right. I mean the Jags have been so fucking bad for so many years in a row and if Trevor Lawrence can stay healthy, I don't really see, I see them being decent.

[Sass]

I think that Travis Hunter is amazing. I don't think he makes that big of an impact on defense.

[Vibs]

No.

[Sass]

I think on offense he's a. He gets like 65 catches probably like seven touchdowns or something like that. Really good season on offense and then.

[Vibs]

They got Brian Thomas Jr. And then.

[Sass]

Brian Thomas Jr. Is going to have 110 catches easily. Yeah, that's sick. But I don't know about their running game. I don't know about their D line.

[Vibs]

Their running back is pretty solid. Who they got? They got that. It's Bigsby. Is that his name?

[Sass]

Tank Bigsby.

[Vibs]

He's solid.

[Sass]

It's confusing because his name is Tank so you're like oh he's probably a beast. Anytime a guy has like a car name like Cadillac Williams or something you're like oh that guy's a beast. Yeah, we can go over if you want.

[Vibs]

I mean he, he had, he had seven touchdowns last year and what was.

[Sass]

His second year out of Auburn or something like that?

[Vibs]

Yeah, his first year he only had 100 yards rushing. Last year he only had 7, 6.

[Sass]

766 but maybe breakout year for Biggs. Are we calling that?

[Vibs]

Yeah, I could see that. I could see a breakout year. I mean I, I feel like if, like if Trevor Lawrence can pull it together and play good football their division is so bad they could be good. You know I think I would go over.

[Sass]

I love it. Jags over 7 and a half because it's kind of a zag. I think people want are going to like think the Jags are going to suck ass. Falcons seven and a half.

[Vibs]

I mean so they got Michael Penix is starting. Is Kirk Cousins still a backup quarterback?

[Sass]

I think so.

[Vibs]

I think so.

[Sass]

Clipboard and being positive.

[Vibs]

Yeah I mean it's kind of like can't lose QB situation. Yeah like obviously Michael Penix. Michael Penix could suck but I, I don't know if he'll 7 win suck.

[Sass]

I think he could. Dude, I think that that's very feasible.

[Vibs]

Really? You're not, you're not, you're not convinced by Pennix?

[Sass]

I'm not, I, I haven't, I don't know, I, I haven't seen it all the way yet. That panicks. Yeah, definitely just like gonna deal like that. I mean I just feel like they're just a seven win team all the time. And it's seven and a half. I mean seven and a half minus 145 though. So Vegas says they're pretty likely to hit that seven and a half.

[Vibs]

But, but let's see, let's see their schedule. I mean they have. What's his name?

[Sass]

Bean's amazing.

[Vibs]

Yeah. So he's a problem if Penck can scramble, which we've kind of seen.

[Sass]

Drake London's nice.

[Vibs]

Drake London's good.

[Sass]

They got two. Two, they got the dude from Georgia and the other D.N. they got multiple DNS in the first round. Traded their first rounder next year though. Real dumbass move to the Rams for their first rounder this year. And if Matthew Stafford gets hurt, the Rams are taking a quarterback. And I could see that being an all time dumb move by the Falcons. I could see them, I could see them having traded their first round pick this year and then suck ass.

[Vibs]

I could see that for sure. I mean they're not very smart. We know, we know that based on the Kurt Cousins contract.

[Sass]

Yes, they're dumb. Like and then this trade for just a D end. Who's like, how much is a D? Like is it DN that you get at that point in the draft going to change everything. Yeah, I, I like to under on this. I don't know.

[Vibs]

Their schedule's not that easy either. Like they got, they got Titans or. No, no, they got Bucks week one, which I would assume is a loss. They got Panthers week two, which I could see being a good game. And then week three they got the Bills and then Dolphins. I mean they got a little bit of a, like they got Colts in, the Saints back to back.

[Sass]

Dub, dub.

[Vibs]

But I mean, yeah, their schedule is not that easy. I would go under. I'm going under. I like it. Not a serious, not a serious organization.

[Sass]

We need them or we just need to see more before we can call them a serious organization.

[Vibs]

Exactly.

[Sass]

Done enough for us to be like, yeah, they're legit now. Chiefs 11 and a half.

[Vibs]

Oh man, everything in me wants to.

[Sass]

Say under then let's not overthink it. Chiefs under 11 and a half.

[Vibs]

Not a serious organization. I think they're going to be coming through some. They're going to struggle, I think in the beginning of the season.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Vibs]

Especially when the Eagles just stomp them week one.

[Sass]

The fact that The Chiefs that. That Travis Kelce got. America's Sweetheart cover of gq. T. Swift is coming out with a new album. Too much extra. Too much extracurricular.

[Vibs]

Yeah, it's over.

[Sass]

I mean, not now. It's. It's football season, babe. You had all summer to do this, dude.

[Vibs]

Their schedule is not easy. I will say that. They got. They go Eagles, Ravens, Lions, Commanders, Broncos, Cowboys, Chargers, Broncos. They have literally. I mean, they're. Their first freebie is Giants. And that's like week, like 11. Like there's gonna be. I mean, if they. If they get through the first seven weeks undefeated, they'll.

[Sass]

God bless.

[Vibs]

They'll get to the super bowl easily.

[Sass]

Undefeated. They might go defeated for the first seven weeks.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I mean, that's a. I think. I think that team is. Is. Is bound to crumble.

[Sass]

It's time for them to come back to Earth. Bengals 9.5.

[Vibs]

I mean, I want to say over, but I don't know if I've really seen much that would convince me otherwise. Wise.

[Sass]

I think that their offense is going to come. Yeah, their offense is going to be roaring. I think their running back situation is nice. Obviously, they paid the receivers. I don't know what's happening with Trey Hendrickson. I know that they got the. The rookie into camp, but, like, are they going to get. Are they. Is there. Are there D. Is their defense going to be able to stop anybody?

[Vibs]

I.

[Sass]

That.

[Vibs]

That's kind of the thing. It's like. I mean, Joe Burrow's gonna put up, you know, three touchdowns guaranteed every game, but is their defense going to be able to stop three touchdowns? Because last year it was like, I mean, dude, they could have played against a JV team and this. This score would be tied in the fourth quarter.

[Sass]

Joe Burrow would just be hit, letting his ass hit the bench. And like, the other team.

[Vibs]

I mean, that was tough to watch.

[Sass]

They have to be. They have to be better than that. Here's one thing I will say, though. If I was them and I know how good Joe Burrow is, I probably wouldn't have paid T. Higgins. I would have. I would have spent that money on defense and been like, yeah, Joe Burrow will make someone else sick. You already have our chase. Like, yeah, like, he. Not that I don't think T. Higgin sucks, but I think that that money could be better spent somewhere else.

[Vibs]

Yeah, it. It must have been something where they just wanted to stay together, the three.

[Sass]

Of them, or a big discount or something.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I don't know. I. I agree Completely. I think T. Higgins is great, but I think he's definitely replaceable.

[Sass]

Yeah. Especially with Joe Burrow, because he's amazing.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I mean, there's kind of, I, I, I would argue T. Higgins isn't even the top WR2 in the league.

[Sass]

I would argue that as well. I think that's a very fair argument. He's up there. He's great.

[Vibs]

But I mean, devonte Smith is better than him.

[Sass]

And I think devonte Adams is better than him, too.

[Vibs]

I think Jordan Addison might be better.

[Sass]

And that's where it starts. It getting interesting. Get us on The Fox Sports 1 show.

[Vibs]

I know. So wait, are we going over or under on that?

[Sass]

What do you think?

[Vibs]

I mean, I, I kind of want to go. Like a part of me is leaning under, but also I want the Bengals to be good because I like Joe Burrow.

[Sass]

I'm going over.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I love Joe. I mean, I want Joe Burrow and Jamar like that. Those are the best games to watch is when Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase are popping off.

[Sass]

That's so fun. Ravens eleven and a half. Ravens sick. Yeah. Yeah, Ravens are, they're, they're too much. Lamar's too much. He's too fucking good.

[Vibs]

Yeah, he's incredible. Their team, I mean, it's, I guess it just comes down to the playoffs, but yeah, they're, I don't know. I don't know if they've got what it takes. I mean, it's one, it's got to be. Someone's got to knock the Chiefs out this year before the fucking Super Bowl. I, I, I, no one wants to see the Eagles Chiefs again.

[Sass]

We have Chiefs at 11 and a half. Under 11 and a half, Chiefs might not even make playoffs. Yeah, we're seeing it.

[Vibs]

That would be so nice.

[Sass]

I think that, well, we haven't got to the Chargers yet. So are we saying over on Ravens?

[Vibs]

Yeah, I'd go over on Ravens.

[Sass]

And then we have Chargers next nine and a half. I think the Chargers are going to be sick. You want me to sell you on the Chargers?

[Vibs]

Yeah, I don't know. I can't say I know enough about the Chargers to be making that.

[Sass]

I think Harbaugh is a winner. Harbaugh always has winning records. And when they, when there's no, when there's no skill there, it doesn't matter to him. But the problem is he's got skill. Herbert borderline top five quarterback. Lad McConkey different. Now they have Najee Harris and they drafted Omarion Hampton in the first round. Their offensive line is disgusting.

[Vibs]

Joe.

[Sass]

Alton. Ray. Oh, Ray. Sean Slater's out for the season. Never mind. That changes things so much. Damn it. I was heating up.

[Vibs]

Did that just come out?

[Sass]

I think he got hurt last week right after he just signed that big contract. He got divorced. Signed a huge contract. Right after his divorce. Everybody was giving him W's, and then he got hurt in the preseason. I think he's out for the year.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I mean, Harbor. Harboro.

[Sass]

Harbaugh.

[Vibs]

Harbaugh.

[Sass]

Joe Scarborough.

[Vibs]

Joe Scarborough. Harbaugh. I mean, McConkey is so good.

[Sass]

They're gonna find ways to win.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I mean, that with Herbert and him, it's. It's. The. The possibilities are endless. I would go over for sure. Yeah.

[Sass]

Yeah. Over nine and a half point five. Just swing Becton out the tackle. You know what I mean? Cowboys, seven and a half.

[Vibs]

I mean, kind of just comes down to dak. Their wide receiver room is insane. Pickens and CD Lamb is nuts.

[Sass]

Yeah. Pickens has been amazing playing with terrible quarterbacks his whole career.

[Vibs]

That's insane that they had them at seven and a half.

[Sass]

Why it's so low. Yeah, it's disrespectful.

[Vibs]

I mean, the Cowboys. If the Cowboys don't win seven games, like, the NFL might shut down.

[Sass]

But eight games? Well, they win eight games.

[Vibs]

How's their defense?

[Sass]

I mean, depends what happens with Micah.

[Vibs]

Yeah, true. He'll. I mean.

[Sass]

They got that good D tackle. Their corners always get some crazy amount of picks.

[Vibs]

I mean, if Dax stays healthy, I think they'll. They're easy over seven or over eight.

[Sass]

Over eight or over seven and a half?

[Vibs]

Over seven. I'll go over. Yeah.

[Sass]

Cowboys.

[Vibs]

I just don't see a world where the Cowboys are losing 7.5 more than 10 games.

[Sass]

It would be hilarious if they did, though.

[Vibs]

Yeah. Would be awesome. They got an easy schedule.

[Sass]

Cowboys do.

[Vibs]

I mean, they have the Cowboys or they have the Eagles, obviously mixed in, but outside of that, their schedules. I'm seeing a lot of wins. I think they'll win over eight.

[Sass]

Yeah. Love that. Vikings, nine and a half.

[Vibs]

I want to go under, to be honest.

[Sass]

Let's do it. Let's do it.

[Vibs]

I just don't know if JJ McCarthy's like, the dude.

[Sass]

The.

[Vibs]

The PR run that JJ McCarthy's on right now is historic. Like, he came out of Michigan. Everyone was like, this guy is gonna suck. Like, it was like people were saying that he wasn't even gonna get picked in the first round. And, I mean, he didn't throw at all in Michigan, it's all running, and then, and then Sam Darnold makes it to the playoffs. And out of nowhere, everyone was like, well, JJ McCarthy's going to win the Super Bowl. And it was like, what makes you think that?

[Sass]

Yeah, that's something.

[Vibs]

Nothing's changed.

[Sass]

They just, they spent a high draft pick on him, so they're like, well, we hope he's good. So, yeah, already invested this much in him, but there's no guarantee that he, he's going to be that good.

[Vibs]

I don't, I mean, he's, he's small. We haven't really seen him throw much. I mean, he's got a good arm from the videos that I've seen, but he's biologically gay. He's gay. And, yeah, I mean, Addison's out. Addison's in no man's land, but it's.

[Sass]

Just, it's, it's no guarantee that it's going to be a. I think last.

[Vibs]

Year was a miracle.

[Sass]

Yeah. And they, they do have weird miracle seasons up in Minnesota. Like, they went, they went to the NFC Championship with Case Keenum.

[Vibs]

Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, their code, who's their coach? They got a really good coach, Kevin o'.

[Sass]

Connell.

[Vibs]

Yeah, Kevin o' Connell's good, but great jawline. I feel like there's just going to be too many. Like, I, I, I could, I, I wouldn't be surprised if JJ McCarthy was good, but I think there's going to be a lot of mistakes.

[Sass]

I love it. Jets, six and a half wins.

[Vibs]

I would go under them. I don't, I, I just don't see them being good.

[Sass]

Justin Fields would have to just have a different.

[Vibs]

It's like Justin Fields pretty much has been. He just got put in the same situation that he's been in.

[Sass]

Why did they try to get a better quarterback than Justin Fields?

[Vibs]

I don't even think, I think Justin Fields could be good or good enough to get them.

[Sass]

Fine.

[Vibs]

But, like, I mean, dude, this is like the third team that he's been on that's, like, decent. But, yeah, they're all like, Every team.

[Sass]

Is like, yeah, we could probably do better than Justin Fields.

[Vibs]

Yeah. 100. Yeah, I would, I would go under. And also, I mean, do I see the jets being better than the Bills or the Patriots? No. I mean, it's kind of going to be like a contest to see who's going to suck more, the Dolphins or the Jets.

[Sass]

You think the Patriots are. Well, we'll get to the Patriots, but let's go, let's do the bills next 12 and a half at plus 120 people.

[Vibs]

I feel like people are expecting a fall off from the bills.

[Sass]

Right. But 12 and a half is so many.

[Vibs]

12 and a half is a lot of wins. And Josh Allen makes mistakes. Like he obviously had an MVP year last year. He was like no turnovers for the first like 10 weeks or some shit. But 12 wins is a lot of wins. What do we have? The Eagles were at what, eleven and a half.

[Sass]

Eagles, Ravens and. And Chiefs were at eleven and a half.

[Vibs]

Let's see the bill schedule. I mean the way that I see it is like I could. I could see that happening just because they're the cle. In my opinion, the clear number one in their division. Their schedule is pretty.

[Sass]

I mean what if it was. What if it was 11 and a half? It'd be automatic over.

[Vibs]

I think if it's 11 and a half, it's automatic.

[Sass]

So why don't we just take 11 and a half and. And just judge the odds.

[Vibs]

Yeah, we could do that.

[Sass]

A little bit worse odds over 11 and a half.

[Vibs]

They've got the Eagles and the Chiefs and the Ray O. I mean they got. They got some tough stretches for sure. Oh, you know what I like is they. Oh, never mind. I was gonna say they have a good game. Last game of the season, but I wasn't looking. Yeah, I would go over 11.

[Sass]

Over 11 and a half.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Okay. Rams nine and a half minus 145.

[Vibs]

I don't know.

[Sass]

This Stafford could be worse than people think.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I could see. I mean he kind of fell off. He did not have a great year.

[Sass]

Last year, but he was sick in the. I mean he almost beat the Eagles in the playoffs.

[Vibs]

That's true.

[Sass]

In that snow game. And they added devonte Adams. Oh, and they gave Kyron money. Yeah, but if he's.

[Vibs]

And they have.

[Sass]

Yeah, they have Puka and their D line. Jared versus Disgusting.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I mean hookah and Devonte Adams as your wide receivers is like. Those are some big bodies. Those are some tight ends.

[Sass]

Yeah, that's a win for him. If. But it all comes down to. Do you think Stafford can play like that? He's 37. Will he start falling off?

[Vibs]

Yeah, I. I could see them having a. Not the easiest season, but people are.

[Sass]

Already ready to crown their asses. Your call. You have to make a call on this. I can't make a call. Nine and a half minus 145.

[Vibs]

I would go under.

[Sass]

Under nine and a half. I love that ballsy ass picked you. You just don't you don't.

[Vibs]

I mean, I'm looking at their skill.

[Sass]

Like, you don't win being going chalk.

[Vibs]

No, I mean, they've got some easy games. Like, that's the thing is their schedule is not crazy. But I kind of agree. Like, I, I don't know if I see Stafford having like a great year.

[Sass]

Playoff teams don't always make it back to the playoffs. The fact that it's like this foregone conclusion that playoff teams are going to make it back. We don't know that. When we have to take swings here.

[Vibs]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sass]

We have to go on.

[Vibs]

Yeah, you got to take swings. We can't have everybody winning.

[Sass]

Everybody can't win every game.

[Vibs]

Someone's got to suck. Other than the Saints and the Browns.

[Sass]

Next up, the Panthers, six and a half games over. Love it.

[Vibs]

I think they've got a lot of mo. I don't think they're going to be a great team, but I think they're going to be scrappy as hell.

[Sass]

Yeah, they don't have the talent that the old Lions teams did, but, like, something about them reminds me of the Lions when they first got, when they were like, coming back from being like, oh, and 17 or whatever.

[Vibs]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sass]

Like, they have like a little bit of scrap to them also.

[Vibs]

Like, their division's not crazy difficult.

[Sass]

Yeah, Not a lot of talent but on the team, but I think that they'll, they're going to find a way. Next up, Cardinals, eight and a half.

[Vibs]

Under.

[Sass]

Yeah, that's, that number. Seems high to me.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I mean, the Cardinals, I don't even like, like last year I didn't even like watching the Cardinals play.

[Sass]

And Marvin Harrison Jr. Is, he's supposed to be great, but, like, there's no guarantee he takes a step forward.

[Vibs]

I didn't really see much from him last year that I was like, this guy's a star. And if like he's good, like, he'll, he'll be in the NFL, you know.

[Sass]

But all these other three, at least three rookie wide receivers were better than him.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I also am just like, really not in on, on Kyler Murray.

[Sass]

Yeah. Or their coach.

[Vibs]

Or their coach. I, I, I, I think Kyler Murray is decent, but I don't think, like, I remember a couple games last year at the end that like, it came down to, to it and it was like, there's no chance, like, you watch it and you're like, there's no way going to pull it off.

[Sass]

Kyla.

[Vibs]

Yeah. It's not like watching Patrick Mahomes where you're like, this game's going down to the last second.

[Sass]

And early on in his career, I thought that was going to what it was going to be. Honestly, he's too serious for me. I'd like to see him goof around a little bit more.

[Vibs]

I'd like to see him goof around a little bit. And then that whole thing with Marvin Harrison last year where they were like, why did Marvin Harrison get zero targets in, like, the first week or something? And he was like, well, that's not my job. And it's like, well, no, that it's actually directly your job.

[Sass]

Your only job.

[Vibs]

Unless you meant like, obviously. Unless he means, like, you know, that's not what the coordinators drew up. But yeah, I think that's not what he said. That's not what he said. Exactly. That is your job. So, Kyler, get your priorities straight and maybe we'll change. We'll make some changes.

[Sass]

Cardinals under eight and a half. Seahawks seven and a half.

[Vibs]

They got Darnolds. They still have jsn and they still have Kenneth Walker. Yep.

[Sass]

Who, you know, can he. This is a will he, won't he year for Kenneth Walker. I. I mean, I think I've drafted him in fantasy every year of his. His life. I've always believed in him, but, you know, I. I really need to see. See, I need to see a ton from him this year to continue my belief.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Will Darnold be able to do it again? That's also a big bet.

[Vibs]

I mean, Darnold got paid, right. So it's like he no longer has to worry about that. I think it could either be, you know, like, we don't really know. Like, so if Darnold had never gotten paid until this year, could have been a situation where, like, maybe he was feeling, you know, like cars are stacked against him. Like, maybe it was not great for his mentals. There's also a chance where he was literally giving it everything he had and, like, now he got paid and he's going to take a step back and somehow be like, just awful.

[Sass]

Yeah, that could be the case for sure.

[Vibs]

Or it could be a situation where it's like, he thinks he should. He. He earned that Viking spot. Let me, let me, Let me. Let me show people what I'm made of. But, yeah, I don't know. I. I think the Seahawks, I think losing DK Metcalf is a huge hit. Obviously, JSN is sick, but he's really like, JSN kind of needs a sick wide receiver. One for him to get targets.

[Sass]

Yeah. Sick X. Wide receiver. So he could play in the slot and be.

[Vibs]

Yeah, exactly.

[Sass]

And like that. That.

[Vibs]

Yeah. So I. I would go. I guess I would go under, but.

[Sass]

Under seven and a half.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I just don't really know what to expect from them. Like, I could easily see us getting surprised. I don't think they're going to be a. A playoff team.

[Sass]

Right. But will they win eight games? I like.

[Vibs]

I mean, they don't even have.

[Sass]

They have a.

[Vibs]

They got a new coach, too.

[Sass]

I think the under is. Is compelling.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I'll go under.

[Sass]

Titans five and a half. Cam Ward.

[Vibs]

I would go under just right off the bat. I mean, dude, Cam Ward said in a press conference that they're mid as he already did. Dude. He literally. They were like, how's practice going? He was, like, pretty mid. He was like, we're not where we want to be.

[Sass]

Okay. I love that. Yeah. Under for the Titans. They need to be better. I think he could be really good. I think Cam Ward could be a beast.

[Vibs]

Definitely. I could definitely see him being good, but like that. I mean, that team just reminds me of weapons. It's like the Patriots last year. It's like, even if Cam Ward's good, they're still not going to be great.

[Sass]

So under five and a half.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

And that brings us to our last team, the patriots. The Patriots. Eight and a half plus 100. What do we think?

[Vibs]

I mean, see, the Patriots, I'm so biased towards it. Like, I talked to Aryan at. At the. At the golf thing, and I was like, what do you.

[Sass]

Big T told me that I shouldn't wash my hands.

[Vibs]

Oh, man. Aryan. It was cool to pick his brain about football. Obviously, I'm a. Like, I. I watched all of his tape, so I'm very familiar. I thought he would maybe be a little bit more familiar with me. Not the case whatsoever, dude. Like, never even. Like, like, not. I wasn't expecting, you know, like, oh, what's up? I'm a big fan. But, like, he had never even seen my face before. Like, he was like. He was like, you work at barstool? Yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh, we do a son of a boy dad. And he was like, that's like a podcast. And I was like, bro, come correct here, please.

[Sass]

Please look at the charts, please.

[Vibs]

But yeah, he was saying. I was like, I think the Patriots are going to be sick. And he was like, what would make you think that? And then it kind of made me be like, I don't know. What would make me think that? I mean, look, their offense is going to be guaranteed better than last year, right? Like they're, they have an. They have somewhat of an O line now. It's not perfect, but it's getting there.

[Sass]

But they. That's a great piece to have. Will Campbell's amazing piece.

[Vibs]

Oh, 100%. He's a fucking tank. He's running guys out of bounds in preseason.

[Sass]

Yeah, he's going to be a tone setter for you guys. You like the guy from Ohio State, Travion Anderson?

[Vibs]

I mean, it's hard not to.

[Sass]

Yeah, he's going to be.

[Vibs]

He's incredible. He was a steal.

[Sass]

He was great at Ohio State.

[Vibs]

Do you see that? Did you see that kick return? You didn't see that?

[Sass]

No, I, I can't say.

[Vibs]

Opening, opening play of the game. He runs it to the end zone.

[Sass]

He scored.

[Vibs]

Yeah. First time holding, touching the ball in the NFL. He scores.

[Sass]

Oh, so he's going to be sick.

[Vibs]

He's gonna be insane.

[Sass]

Okay. I love that.

[Vibs]

And like it wasn't even clo. Like, he was gone.

[Sass]

He was gone, dude.

[Vibs]

Like, people were trying to catch up to him from like 40 yards back. It was insane. I mean, obviously that's preseason, so it means nothing, but it was still sick.

[Sass]

I love that. I, I think he'll be good. Diggs.

[Vibs]

Yeah, I mean, I think Diggs is going to be. I've always been high on Diggs. I was high on Diggs last year. And honestly, he played well last year until he got hurt. Diggs was. Diggs was playing his role last year. Obviously he had a little bit of a smaller role on the team than he did on the Bills. Like on, on, on the Texans, it was like obviously you got Tank Dell and Nico Collins, so it's like he wasn't the top wide receiver by any means. And he, he played well. I mean, I had him on my fantasy team. He was scoring consistently, I think.

[Sass]

I think, I think if Drake May was 40 pounds lighter, he would look like he's one of your friend group.

[Vibs]

Yeah, that's a little bit of a concern, but.

[Sass]

No, but I think that he's. I think he's amazing.

[Vibs]

I think Drake May is going to be sick. It's just really about like a. Staying healthy and be like, we've never seen him play under a good team. Like, we've never. Like last year, every time he would play, like you'd. Watching it from like the perspective of a Patriots fan. Like last year, it was like after he got hurt, after he got that concussion. I was kind of like, is he gonna. Is this gonna be, like, a thing where he gets, like, injured? Like, he gets. He was getting, like, concussed all the time.

[Sass]

He gets it to a thing.

[Vibs]

Yeah, but I guess, I mean, they're saying that they've got way more like designated run plays now. And obviously Variable is gonna be completely game changer, in my opinion.

[Sass]

Gonna be sick.

[Vibs]

And we got. What's his name back?

[Sass]

Gonzalez. No.

[Vibs]

Yeah, Obvious. But who's.

[Sass]

Who?

[Vibs]

The offensive coordinator. Br.

[Sass]

McDaniels.

[Vibs]

Yeah. I mean, you don't know about him because he sucked at the Raiders.

[Sass]

Yeah. As a head coach, he sucked ass.

[Vibs]

Yeah. But I mean, I think if he just stays in his spot of, like, I come up with weird plays.

[Sass]

Okay, so what are we saying?

[Vibs]

I mean, let's look at the schedule. We got Dolphins, week one.

[Sass]

I don't mind going over for them.

[Vibs]

I don't either. I mean, dude, their schedule is so easy. Listen to this. They got Dolphins, Panthers, Saints, Browns. That's how we're starting the year.

[Sass]

Okay.

[Vibs]

And then Bucks, Bengals, Bills. That's a. That's a tough one. And then Jets, Ste. Or Jets. Raiders, Steelers, Bills again. Titans, Falcons, Jets, Giants, Ravens.

[Sass]

Yeah, they're going over.

[Vibs]

They're going over for sure.

[Sass]

Wow.

[Vibs]

It's going to be a new team. I mean, they're saying it's the best offense we've had in seven years.

[Sass]

What was seven years ago?

[Vibs]

Probably Edelman and Skronk and probably Super Bowl. Yeah.

[Sass]

That'D be sick of. The Patriots are back. Wow. So that's all of our over unders. Should I read them through one time?

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

So people can just jot it down right here. 49ers under 10 and a half. Steelers over 8 and a half. Dolphins under 7 and a half. Bears over 8 and a half. Lions over 10 and a half. Broncos under 9 and a half. Bucks over 9 and a half. Texans over over 9 and a half. Eagles over 11 and a half. Colts under 7 and a half. Commanders over 9 and a half. Giants under 5 and a half. Saints under 4 and a half. Packers under 9 and a half. Browns under 5 and a half. Raiders over 6 and a half. Jaguars over 7 and a half. Falcons under 7 and a half. Chiefs under 11 and a half. Bengals over 9 and a half. Ravens over 11 and a half. Chargers over 9 and a half. Cowboys over 7 and a half. Vikings under 9 and a half. Jets under 6 and a half. Bills over 11 and a half. Rams under 9 and a half. Panthers over 6 and a half. Cardinals under 8 and a half. Seahawks under 7 and a half. Titans under 5 and a half. Patriots over 8 and a half. I think it's. I think it's perfect.

[Vibs]

I like it. We might. We might go 100%.

[Sass]

We just painted a masterpiece parlay those boys. Give us a fat 32 team parlay.

[Vibs]

You need the 32, and then kick.

[Sass]

It back up to the top once you fucking win. Pay a little to me and Sass, and I guess Francis can have a little bit, too.

[Vibs]

He'll get a. He'll get a percentage.

[Sass]

This is. Is this the last show we're going to have before mascots comes out?

[Vibs]

No.

[Sass]

Okay.

[Vibs]

I don't think.

[Sass]

All right. We'll still. Still get ready for. For mascots. It's going to be great.

[Vibs]

It comes out the 19th.

[Sass]

Oh.

[Vibs]

So. Yeah.

[Sass]

Record another one. All right. Bet. All right. That's it. That's it for me.

[Vibs]

Yeah. That's all I got, too.

[Sass]

Thanks for talking ball with us.

[Vibs]

Hope you guys enjoyed that rundown, that deep dive.

[Sass]

No, nobody actually does it like us. Nobody knows ball like us. And I'm talking about all barstool sports.

[Vibs]

Same. Me, too. That's a call out. We're calling them out.

[Sass]

Yeah, we're actually going to start dropping every day the same day as the Fox Sports 1 show, and we'll see who really drags dick.

[Vibs]

Not a lot of people are going ball like we are. You got any? Well, while we close out final thoughts here. You got any. You got any. Any sleepers? Maybe give a sleeper.

[Sass]

For what?

[Vibs]

For fantasy?

[Sass]

Oh, for. Oh, a player or two.

[Vibs]

Yeah, yeah. Throws a couple sneak. Throws a couple sleepers.

[Sass]

I mean, I've been. I cannot get my hands off of Tyler Warren to the Penn State tight end. He's going to be fucking sick. Like, I'm not saying Brock Bowers, but I feel like you could get him in like the 14th round, you know, I like your other. Take your other tight end before him. Take David and Joku or Dallas Goddard, but then grab up Warren later on. He's going to do way better than Colson Loveland, the dude who was drafted before him.

[Vibs]

I like what I'm hearing.

[Sass]

I love that one.

[Vibs]

I would go for myself personally. Trey Henderson, Trayvon Henderson. My bad. Yeah, I don't know if that's much of a sleeper, though.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Vibs]

And then that's a sleeper.

[Sass]

I think that's a sleeper.

[Vibs]

Yeah. He's just a rookie and then I'm very high stock on. I completely forget who I was Just about to say.

[Sass]

I think Jerry Judy will have a good year. I think Lab McConkey will have a good year. I think that Neighbors and Tracy will have a good year. Yeah, I think that.

[Vibs]

Oh, Ray Davis. That's who I was thinking of.

[Sass]

Ray Davis.

[Vibs]

Ray Davis of the Bills. I think he's getting a lot more action this year. He's shifting. He's a shifty player.

[Sass]

The running back. Yeah, but didn't they just sign James Cook? Yeah, they just signed the brother Cook.

[Vibs]

Yeah, they signed James Cook, who's obviously going to be sick, but I think he might be splitting some more. I think we might see some more Ray Davis reps. That guy can run.

[Sass]

I think Rashid Shahid, the receiver from the.

[Vibs]

Oh, yeah.

[Sass]

The Saints are going to be losing in every game. The Saints are going to be throwing the ball maybe 700 times this year.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

And Chris Olave, like, gets a concussion. When you look at him funny, that's a deep cut. Sleeper.

[Vibs]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Solid.

[Vibs]

Any. Any. Any guys you're high on that are not sleepers.

[Sass]

So I, I've done one fantasy draft already. I took neighbors in the first round. Brian Thomas Jr. Second round. Oh, Kyron, third round.

[Vibs]

Nada. See, this must not have been a serious league.

[Sass]

Kyron, third round. And Garrett Wilson, fourth round.

[Vibs]

A lot of wide receivers, three wide outs.

[Sass]

But there's, I mean, a flex with a wide out and then. So I, I didn't really have a lot of good options at running back. So my running backs. My other running backs behind Kyron are Brian Thomas or Brian Robinson. Eh. Tony Pollard. And then Caleb Johnson, the rookie from the Steelers was the first one that I picked. And that's just like an upside play. Trying to hope. Hope that we could get some upside from him.

[Vibs]

I like what I'm hearing.

[Sass]

Tracy, I've. Tyrone. Tracy's my other one, actually. I'll probably start. Tyrone. Tracy.

[Vibs]

Tyrone. Tracy was my. My sleeper pick of the year, but we already. We touched on him already, so I didn't think it was as much of a sleeper, but, yeah, I'm targeting. I'm targeting Tyrone. He will be on my roster.

[Sass]

Overdraft. Overdraft. So if you get the chance.

[Vibs]

How many leagues are you ripping?

[Sass]

I'm probably gonna rip a cool four.

[Vibs]

I'm on three this year.

[Sass]

Three already. Three that you have locked in?

[Vibs]

Yeah, three I got. We got. I got ours. And then I'm doing one with like, some of like, my cousins and stuff. And then I'm doing. I'm doing just a random one with Twitter.

[Sass]

Dudes.

[Vibs]

I did.

[Sass]

Oh, I did a random one with like, I just hopped in a yahoo league. Coach Larry, two of those. Just. Oh, it's with Coach Larry.

[Vibs]

Yeah, he DM'd me and was like, would you want to do a fantasy league? And I was like, sure, yeah. Why not?

[Sass]

Why not?

[Vibs]

So it's just me and a bunch of like, cheapies.

[Sass]

Which is a great.

[Vibs]

A great thing to be in that we'll see.

[Sass]

Yeah, we got to get the. The league up and running. I don't know, we could do a draft, but.

[Vibs]

Yeah, we'll figure that out. We'll do it this week or next week.

[Sass]

Love it. All right, brother.

[Vibs]

Sweet. Thanks, guys, for listening. We'll see you next week.

[Sass]

Yeah, thanks for listening to some ball talk. I know it's a little bit different, but without Francis here, we had to take full advantage. I'm sure some people will love this, and I'm sure that there are some people who will think this is the worst thing that they've ever listened to in their life. And I wouldn't have it any other way.

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