Boy Hollerin' Ft. Jason Williams | Son of a Boy Dad #403

Summary

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Son of a Boy Dad #403: “Boy Hollerin’” Ft. Jason Williams

Date: May 21, 2026
Guests: Jason Williams (“White Chocolate,” former NBA player)

Episode Overview

This episode brings NBA legend Jason Williams (aka “White Chocolate”) into the Son of a Boy Dad universe. With their usual blend of irreverence and curiosity, hosts Lil Sasquatch, Rone, and Francis Ellis bounce between sports myths, athletic superlatives, gender debates in sports, nostalgic college stories, and, most centrally, what it means to be a “freak athlete” and a “boy hollering.” The hosts probe J. Will’s experiences in basketball and life after the league, riff on the intersection of masculinity, competition, and culture, and cook up some wild hypotheticals, all in the spirit of both comedy and genuine curiosity.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Merging Podcasts & Naming Antics

[02:06]

• The hosts joke about blending “Son of a Boy Dad” with J. Will’s own “Hoopin’ and Hollerin’.”
• Riffing on naming (“Boy Hollerin’,” “Hollerin’ Boy”), they poke fun at podcast crossover culture and the double meaning of “holler” (basketball yelling vs. West Virginia topography).

2. What is a “Freak Athlete”?

[03:30-09:20]

• Francis reflects on childhood assumptions about being a “freak athlete” until meeting NBA players:

  “And then I met you, and I realized there’s nothing special about me there.” (Francis, 03:39)

• They banter on athleticism among white male athletes (“privileged white sports” like lacrosse), with self-deprecation and irony.
• J. Will notes:

  “There’s a lot of things special about you, you know, just because you’re not a freak, there’s something special about you—you have to find it.” (J. Will, 04:11)

• The group compares broad jump records and the limits of “whiteness” in certain athletic feats, juxtaposing myth and reality.

3. Athletic Feats & Obscure Sports Trivia

[07:54-13:00]

• Extended discussion of track-and-field skills: broad jumps, long jump, triple jump, high jump, decathlon.
• The hosts and J. Will reflect on “real” athleticism and how various sports measure it:

  “High jump doesn’t impress me as much as long jump.” (Host 1, 10:12)

• They riff on bizarre real-world applications:

  “I can’t imagine there’s a place where there’s three 19-foot streams in a row where you have to jump.” (Host 3, 43:01)

4. Gender Politics & Trans Athletes

[11:11-16:29]

• Spirited debate about trans athletes in women’s sports, referencing famous cases and public discourse:

  “All these failing male athletes transition in order to be better than women.” (Host 3, 12:03, paraphrasing a common argument to spark discussion)

• J. Will gives a blunt opinion:

  “I’m not a fan of boys playing with the girls, man.” (J. Will, 15:10)

• Riff on Serena Williams:

  “She says she can’t beat the like top 200, 300, 400, 500 ranked guy…Why can’t them broads listen to that? To her? Well, just accept that.” (J. Will, 15:25)

• The segment balances joking, edge, and moments of genuine reflection about fairness and competition.

5. NBA Life, Taxes, and Why Retired Athletes Live Where They Live

[28:05-34:53]

• J. Will explains his move from West Virginia to Orlando:

  “I couldn’t go back to West Virginia…just because of the cold weather. I’m not living anywhere cold weather.” (J. Will, 28:15)

• The hosts discuss how pro athletes pick permanent residences, with tax implications as a key factor:

  “We play taxes in every city we play.” (J. Will, 32:39) “Disney ain’t giving nothing for free.” (J. Will, 35:18 on paying for Disney fast passes as a local celebrity)

6. Disney World Hacks & Family Life

[33:44-36:35]

• Hilarious stories about Disney’s fast passes, the privilege of celebrity, and what it’s like to do parks with family:

  “[The guide will] pick you up, bring a van, and you just…walk straight up the exit line and get on the ride…People hate you.” (J. Will, 34:53)

7. Food: Fried Bologna & Regional Snacks

[23:53-26:29]

• Nostalgia and culture around bologna, pork roll, and mortadella.
• Banter about the difference between southern and Italian deli culture.

8. Youth Sports, Violence, and Masculinity

[47:51-54:11]

• The hosts reminisce about physicality in high school/college—hockey, lacrosse injuries, and random violence at parties.
• Discussing hyper-masculine party behavior:

  “Did you guys have people in your high school…who just, like, tackle somebody?” (Host 1, 52:26)

• Francis on party “bouncers”:

  “I didn’t like people who, when they were drunk, would hug me too hard...I hate being tickled.” (Francis, 52:44)

9. Comedians & Online Fame

[54:30-55:47]

• The hosts praise internet comedians like Druski for dominating without traditional standup:

  “Honestly, I admire him more for not going on stage. It’s like he knows what he’s incredible at and doesn’t do that obvious thing.” (Francis, 54:48)

10. Golf: Competition, Money, and Endorsements

[62:24-73:12]

• J. Will and Francis plan a golf day and joke about who gets more handicaps:

  “I need four aside.” (J. Will, 63:52)

• The group debates the fairness of golf tournament prize allocations:

  “Nobody remembers the second place winners, really, of the Masters.” (Francis, 68:17) “If you’re a golfer, you better be good…at least win once or twice to get some endorsements.” (J. Will, 71:02)

• Insights into the psychological demands of individual sports versus team sports.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Podcast Success (Naming) [02:06]
  Host: “What if we blend hoopin’ and hollerin’ with Son of a Boy Dad and call it Boy Hollerin’?”

• On the Meaning of a “Freak Athlete” [04:11]
  J. Will: “There’s a lot of things special about you…just because you’re not a freak, there’s something special about you.”

• On Gender in Sports [15:25]
  J. Will: “Why can’t them broads listen to that? Serena says she can’t beat the like top 200, 300, 400, 500 ranked guy…just accept that.”

• On Home & Place [28:15]
  J. Will: “I never really thought about coming back [home] at all, but I never really thought about leaving either.”

• On NBA Taxes [32:39]
  J. Will: “We play taxes in every city we play.”

• Disney Privilege [34:53]
  J. Will: “We walk straight up the exit line and get on the ride. And if the kids wanted to ride it again…just not get up…People hate you.”

• Golf Prize Money [68:17]
  Francis: “Nobody remembers the second place winners, really, of the Masters.”

• Party Exclusion [58:33]
  Host: “And then just slowly walk back to the car.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [02:06] — Podcast blending & “hollering” banter
• [03:30-09:20] — Freak athletes, privilege, and sports
• [11:11-16:29] — Gender in athletics and trans athlete debate
• [28:05-34:53] — Hometowns, cold weather, choosing where to settle
• [34:53-36:35] — Disney World, celebrity hacks, family outings
• [47:51-54:11] — Youth violence, high school party roughhousing
• [54:30-55:47] — Comedians, Druski, and new models of “funny”
• [62:24-73:12] — Golf, handicaps, and the business/psychology of the game

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Tone & Style

The episode is marked by a loose, comedic, and candid tone. There’s irreverence, quick subject changes, and a willingness to poke fun at themselves and sports legends alike. The conversation swings smoothly from serious to absurd, typified by the transition from gender policy debates to fried bologna snack hacks, and from broad jump records to college party humiliations.

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Useful For

• Anyone curious about the cultural intersections of sports, masculinity, and fame.
• Listeners interested in the personal experiences of a retired NBA legend.
• Fans of backstage and locker room stories, with a comedic, self-aware twist.
• Athletes or sports fans who like candid, off-the-cuff takes on gender and competition.

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Memorable Closing

J. Will (75:40): “Son of a hollering boy—that sounds like a good ass country song.”

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If you skip the ads, intros, and outros, this episode is a crackling, often hilarious, and sometimes thoughtful reflection on athletes, sports culture, and the enduring oddity of growing up “boy hollerin’” in America.

Transcript

[Host 1]

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[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'm nervous. I feel like y' all gonna pull up a topic without getting me nervous.

[Host 2]

No, no, never.

[Host 1]

That's how I start us off, brother. What are you waiting on?

[Host 2]

Ready? I was waiting. I was waiting for it to be okay. Alrighty. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy Dad Podcast. It is the middle of the day on Tuesday, 1pm on the dot, actually. And we're joined by J. Will White Chocolate.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

What's happening? I appreciate y' all having me, of course.

[Host 2]

Appreciate you being here.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You guys. You guys have the look on your face as if you guys got some mischievous shit up your sleeve today.

[Host 2]

Oh, no, not.

[Host 3]

Well, I think. I think we should with, you know, not stand on ceremony here. This is our day to officially ask if you want to blend hooping and hollering with son of a Boy dad. And we're going to call it boy Hollering Hollering Boy. And just say, you know, let's stop. Let's stop with the two thing.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'm here, I'm here to help you help me. And I did have a question about hooping and hollering. It was called hooping and hollering. I like that name. But like, what are we going to do with it. Like almost not basketball season.

[Host 1]

I think holler. I always thought of holler was like. Like West Virginia. Like a holler. Like where? Like the. Like a river. Like a holler. Like that.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Like a holler.

[Host 1]

Yeah, like a holler. So maybe we got to get to lean into the holler part and less of the hoop.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I mean, we should go up to one of those hollers and shoot a podcast.

[Host 2]

That'll be a great idea.

[Host 3]

You switch from basketball to topography.

[Host 1]

Yeah, topography. Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You got to be versatile.

[Host 3]

That's fair enough, right?

[Host 1]

Was a holler. Can you fish in a holler?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

There's creeks and shit.

[Host 1]

Cricks.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No creeks.

[Host 1]

What is the difference between a crick and a creek? There's cricks. In Pennsylvania, people call it a crick.

[Host 2]

I think just the pronunciation. I'm pretty sure the same thing.

[Host 3]

No, no, no. You can get a crick in your neck. You certainly cannot get a creek in your neck.

[Host 2]

A rick in your neck.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Crick.

[Host 1]

Well, you can have a creaky neck, though.

[Host 3]

That's true. True.

[Host 1]

That's two completely different things. Francis, you gotta see Jwill's golf swing. He was just showing me videos of his golf swing.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'm gonna imagine I'm one of the best tens you ever met.

[Host 3]

I. I am. I believe that. You know, I gotta tell you. Jwell, let me tell you something. This is a lie. Go ahead. No, it's not. Growing up, I was called a freak athlete. I was. I defied what people expected. I was very fast. I could jump very high. And I grew up firmly believing, like, you know, I'm. I'm really a freak. And then I met you, and I realized there's nothing special about me there.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

There's a lot of things special about you, you know, just because you're not a freak, there's something special about you have to find it.

[Host 3]

Freak is successful white player in the NBA. That's freak.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

That really is freak level athleticism.

[Host 1]

I think that you have pretty freaky bounce. You are pretty fast.

[Host 3]

You can dunk freak for privileged white sports.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

Like that's. That's.

[Host 2]

Yeah. You are lacrosse free.

[Host 3]

Yeah. There's nothing wrong to people that don't hang out with black people. I was afraid.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

That's really what I realized. Maine is the least diverse state in the country. Second is West Virginia, actually.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Really?

[Host 3]

Yeah. We're better than you.

[Host 2]

I think you might be forgetting Detroit, Michigan, brother.

[Host 1]

Yeah, Detroit, Michigan. The least diverse city.

[Host 2]

The least diverse city in the country, really. It's all black people.

[Host 3]

I was going by states.

[Host 2]

No, no, I was kidding.

[Host 3]

But. But yeah, we're the whitest state in the country and up there. Freak. I was a freak.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Well, I was a freak in West Virginia as well.

[Host 3]

You're a freak everywhere.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No, no, not really.

[Host 3]

You're a freak. You're dunking on Mario Ely. I always thought it was Ely, not Ellie.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I think it's Ellie.

[Host 3]

Ellie.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I've always thought it was Ellie.

[Host 3]

Like weasel.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I don't know about that.

[Host 3]

He's the most prominent Holocaust author.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Okay.

[Host 3]

I'm sure they've never met. Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Was he. Was he an athletic freak?

[Host 3]

I. Well, there's a scene in Night, which is his seminal work, where the. They are transferring them from one camp to another and he has to run all through the night. He never stops.

[Host 1]

Oh, he escapes a concentration camp?

[Host 3]

No, I don't think he escapes.

[Host 1]

There had to be some freaks that escaped concentration camps. Like some athletic freaks that were just like.

[Host 3]

Yes.

[Host 1]

Ran up the wall or something.

[Host 3]

The ultimate prison.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Would you consider Forrest Gump a freak

[Host 3]

mainly because of his acumen?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

What do you mean?

[Host 3]

How stupid he was?

[Host 2]

Well, no, but he was also an athletic. Quite athletic. I mean, he started running and he never stopped.

[Host 3]

Endurance. Yeah, endurance athlete. You know, Kenny Powers famously said, I'm not trying to be the best at

[Host 1]

exercising, but he was a football. He's a return man in football.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's fellowship. Alabama. Didn't he.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did ping pong.

[Host 1]

That's real. That's.

[Host 3]

Yeah, maybe you're right. A little bit of a freak.

[Host 2]

Yeah, definitely a freak.

[Host 1]

He just doesn't strike me as a guy with a good vertical, though.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Probably not very athletic, but he could

[Host 1]

run fast in a straight line.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

He run fast. What sports do you do that in?

[Host 1]

Yeah, I guess football. Well, basketball.

[Host 2]

Basketball, baseball, baseball.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You have to do other things than run in these sports you guys are mentioning.

[Host 2]

It's true. That is true.

[Host 3]

Did you ever have to test your standing broad jump?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I haven't never.

[Host 1]

There was no combine or anything like that?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

There was, but I was a junior. I came out here my junior year. That was for seniors. Had to go, whatever. My agent was probably kind of smart. He didn't allow me to go my junior year because he didn't want me to knock myself down.

[Host 2]

You end your junior year of college?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

After my junior year.

[Host 3]

Nice.

[Host 1]

Nice. What about 40 or your. Your vertical, rather.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No idea.

[Host 1]

You never had a vertical jump?

[Host 3]

You never.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I mean, I probably jumped like in high school or sometime in college, but I don't remember that stuff.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Humble. I like that.

[Host 1]

Being a 40 inch vertical. That's right there.

[Host 3]

Wow. That's amazing.

[Host 2]

That's a.

[Host 3]

That's all because I was 39.

[Host 1]

Really?

[Host 3]

Yeah. I was 39.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You just have red hair. I don't.

[Host 3]

You got. You got it from me, brother. And that means that's. That's a mile in basketball.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'm gonna give it to you. Probably can read faster than me too.

[Host 3]

Great. That's, you know, done so much for me. I want to brag one more thing. My standing broad jump still stands as the record on the Harvard lacrosse team.

[Host 2]

Some.

[Host 3]

I graduated in 2011, so we're talking 15 years later. I think it's the only record that still stands, but it has been tied by a guy a couple years ago named Isaiah. So you do the math.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, that's right. What is the number?

[Host 3]

9ft 11 inches.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

And that's just standing in this swing. Your arms go.

[Host 3]

Yeah. From one? Yeah.

[Host 1]

Really?

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

That's crazy.

[Host 1]

911 broad jump.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

That's insane.

[Host 3]

I was very frustrated not to get to 10. I like round numbers.

[Host 2]

I mean being able to jump 10ft with no momentum is insane.

[Host 3]

But then you look at the NFL combine and there are D backs that are jumping 12ft and you're like, they

[Host 2]

also can squat 700 pounds.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

They're also not white.

[Host 1]

They're also.

[Host 2]

That is also a big factor.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Huge.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Byron Jones. 12ft 3 inches.

[Host 3]

Do you have any idea how much farther 12ft 3 inches is than 10ft? I was burying 2.3. I was jumping like orders of magnitude farther than everyone else on our team. Yeah. Of. Of athletes. D1 athletes. And this guy would have looked at the way I jumped and been like, you're a puny little.

[Host 1]

It's sick videos.

[Host 3]

Is that much longer?

[Host 1]

It's so funny.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

In all honesty, if he shows up to a. To an event and you're there too, he's already thinking that you're really good if you're even there in his event. Is that fair?

[Host 3]

I scare him.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So don't.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Don't cut yourself short, bro. There's always. It's always somebody better. Right. No matter where.

[Host 3]

I wonder. That is true.

[Host 1]

That's Olympic level shit right there. That's a four yard jump. That's just like. If he's on the fucking five yard line, he just get down to the one, just extend into the end zone.

[Host 3]

There was a frogger. There was a maybe it is this clip and I can't Quite tell. But there's one where he does it and there's all the guys around watching, like, go nuts.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'm not so sure what I'm more impressed about, him doing that, jumping that far or keeping his balance when he landing.

[Host 1]

Yeah, that's nuts too. Or even. I mean, the long jumps in the Olympics, those dudes are jumping like 22ft. Yeah, that's fucking nuts.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Or maybe longer than that jump.

[Host 2]

Yeah, exactly. That's what I was saying. High jump. Jesus, Francis, you ever do the high jump feet?

[Host 3]

I never did, no.

[Host 2]

Really?

[Host 1]

High jump doesn't impress me as much as long jump.

[Host 2]

Oh, high jump is sick.

[Host 3]

Really?

[Host 1]

But it just doesn't look as crazy.

[Host 2]

Like, I think it's crazy get your

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

body up over a party.

[Host 1]

Talking pole vault.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No, I'm talking about that bar they jump over and they go over backwards, Backwards over it.

[Host 1]

I don't know. Those. Those guys suck.

[Host 2]

No, that's crazy. That's crazy. That's peak athleticism than the long.

[Host 1]

Oh, definitely eight feet high. Like, you can't even.

[Host 2]

The long jump is for people who can't jump high.

[Host 3]

That's.

[Host 1]

That's right.

[Host 2]

They got to jump out.

[Host 1]

Like, I think Forrest Gump will be

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

standing in the sand.

[Host 2]

Exactly.

[Host 1]

I think they do. They don't stay on balance.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

They all got sand all up the crack of their ass, every one of them. When they get up, bro, they just

[Host 1]

jam their heels into the ground.

[Host 3]

Do you think that. You know, because they said that the person who won the decathlon or whatever was theoretically considered back then the best athlete in the world. And Bruce Jenner won the decathlon.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Right. So they were. Don't go there.

[Host 2]

You're talking about Bruce when it was Bruce.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Correct.

[Host 2]

Nothing wrong with that.

[Host 3]

Nothing wrong with that. But it is interesting to think that at. In this day and age, Bruce Jenner could have.

[Host 1]

The best athlete is a girl.

[Host 3]

Made the transition with the hope of dominating the women's decathlete after by quite a degree. Yeah, right.

[Host 2]

I don't know.

[Host 3]

And then it would have been an uproar.

[Host 1]

Wait, so what are you saying? If.

[Host 3]

If the. Caitlyn. Bruce became Caitlyn at a time before there was like this whole controversy of

[Host 1]

which lane you could swim in.

[Host 3]

Competing in women's sports and winning by so much.

[Host 1]

Right.

[Host 2]

But also, Bruce Jenner didn't need to do that because Bruce Jenner was the best in the men's.

[Host 3]

That's my point, though. Right. It's like all these failing male athletes transition in order to be better than women.

[Host 1]

That'd be like if Usain Bolt just ran to women.

[Host 3]

Yeah, exactly.

[Host 2]

Trying to get a win under the

[Host 3]

Usain Bolt becoming, you know, Usain just with a Betty or whatever.

[Host 1]

Yeah. Wig on. Usain Bolt just smoking the girl.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

What's your opinion on that? Trans playing with women?

[Host 2]

I don't give a fuck. Because I think it's happened, like three times ever that we know of.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Right. Yeah.

[Host 2]

So I don't give a.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Like, back then, it might have been happening. Yeah.

[Host 2]

If it was a thing where it was like every single girl sport that you watch, it's just all clearly just dudes on the fields, then I would be like, maybe they should do something about this. But it's happened like twice. So it's like, who gives a. Yeah, like the swimming thing. It's like, who gave a. About swimming before that? No one.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah. Except during the Olympics. That's it. Right.

[Host 2]

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 3]

I don't care.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You don't care?

[Host 3]

Well, look, you know, you would care

[Host 2]

if you were competing.

[Host 3]

Bob Costas had a very good take on it. Did you see that?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I did not.

[Host 3]

He was just like, let's be sensible here. You know, of course, that trans people need to be protected and all that, but applying that to sports is a bridge too far. Something like that.

[Host 2]

I would say maybe if you're going to transition, maybe think about how it's gonna affect your competitive sport in advance, you know, like, maybe wait, maybe let's push it off a year, finish out the career, maybe win gold, transition, retire, you know?

[Host 1]

What about just having a Trans Division?

[Host 2]

Trans Division. I think that'd be great.

[Host 1]

And just like, dominate the Trans Division.

[Host 3]

I like that.

[Host 2]

I think that would be great.

[Host 3]

You know how a bunch of freak athletes, great European soccer players, they reach the twilight of their career and then they come play in America. America and the mls.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

So it's like Wayne Rooney and Messi and all these guys who are at their kind of last couple years, they come to America and play.

[Host 1]

Come. Come to the wnba, I think.

[Host 3]

I think you could have soccer players or whatever, transition genders and go play in women's leagues in Europe and just dominate and. And raise awareness and hype there. Raise awareness. Like imagine, like, imagine like inter Miami women's socce. Like, hey, guys, we got a new player. Here's.

[Host 2]

Maybe they should just start a co ed league.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

How about the girls just stay girls and the boys just stay girls and y' all play over there and we'll play against the boys? How about that?

[Host 3]

Wait a minute. I mean, how dare you, jw? I mean, how dare you? I feel, I feel threatened.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Well, I apologize to you, but as

[Host 3]

a father of a future non binary daughter, I hope you'll be a little bit more considerate for the rest now that we're a one podcast. I not sure I can handle that type of microaggression.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You want to toughen up if you want it to be one podcast,

[Host 3]

but

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

yeah, I'm, I'm not, I'm not a fan of, of the girls. Boys playing with the girls, man.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

What about if there were a woman athlete who was so amazing that she could play with the boys?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

If, if Aunt Kathy had a dick, she'd be Uncle Jerry.

[Host 1]

Well, I think that's the root of the issue. Yeah, I think that's exactly what we're talking about.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, that, that, that. The girl. Yeah, that'll never happen. Serena Williams said it herself, bro. She's the best, right? As a female. Yeah. She says she can't beat the like top 200, 300, 400, 500 ranked guy. So there. Why can't them broads listen to that? To her? Well, just accept that.

[Host 3]

Sure. I mean, yeah. I mean, they're good, the women.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Great athletes.

[Host 3]

Oh, they're amazing.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Great athletes.

[Host 3]

There's, there's a. There's a reason that women's tennis and women's golf are as lucrative as they are, which is that they're still very fun to watch. Those women are unbelievable. I agree, unfortunately, visually, and maybe this is controversial, Women's bot basketball versus the NBA looks like it's in slow motion.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

It does.

[Host 3]

So the golf there. Whereas, like, women tennis players are beating the shit out of the ball. Women golfers are going six under on the same courses.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

With that being said, the women golfers and the women tennis players can't beat the men golfers and the men tennis player.

[Host 3]

That's exactly true.

[Host 1]

There's the battle, but the sexes. I don't know what point I'm trying to make with this, but there was the battle of the sexes where Billie Jean King played against Don Houston, I think, and I think she beat him. A woman in the 60s beat. Beat a man.

[Host 2]

I remember this.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I think it was yesterday, but I, but I probably. Serena is probably right that she's getting smoked by some dude, some random dude who could just serve at 150 miles an hour.

[Host 2]

Well, I feel like Serena could probably beat 99% of people on the planet, but like, for sure.

[Host 1]

Bobby Riggs.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I mean, I guess if it's a.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's who Billie Jean King beat right there.

[Host 1]

Yeah, she beat this dude. She beat this.

[Host 3]

She beat him so badly that he started foreplay.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Who is he? Who? Who was he?

[Host 1]

55 year old retired male champion.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Oh, so he played tennis pro.

[Host 1]

So she was 29.

[Host 2]

She was 29. He was 55.

[Host 1]

Oh, I didn't know that. And then he went on to star in Revenge of the Nerds.

[Host 2]

You put up like a pretty good fight too.

[Host 1]

55 is crazy. I didn't realize they were handicapping the dudes like that.

[Host 3]

Not really. Straight sets. That's not that good.

[Host 2]

No, no.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

For her to beat him, that's not good at all.

[Host 3]

To me, he didn't. I'm saying she beat him soundly.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yes, she should.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

The motherfucker daddy just ain't laid down.

[Host 1]

He's 55. What is that?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Well, I'm just talking about in those terms of playing. She's 20. Whatever. Yeah, she's the peak of her game out of here.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Let her go play Nadal or Roger Federer and I bet she don't score a point.

[Host 3]

Yeah, probably not one point. Yeah, you're probably right.

[Host 1]

29. I don't know, bro. That's like saying a 29 year old girl from who is like in the WNBA now is going to beat you in basketball.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

She would.

[Host 1]

You think?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I think she would.

[Host 3]

Come on.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I can barely move side to side.

[Host 1]

That's not true.

[Host 3]

But you think you play one on one right now against a peak starting

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

like let's just say Paige. Paige Beckers would. I think she would beat me.

[Host 3]

Well, that's incredibly egalitarian of you.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Whatever that means. The is that. Yeah, we play like horse or something like that. I think I got a chance.

[Host 1]

Asia Wilson is 29. Oh yeah. Asia Wilson. Smoking your boots. Honestly.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, she. Yeah, I got, I got.

[Host 1]

She's sick though. She's like the mvp.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah. There's a lot of these girls that are good players that will beat my ass in basketball one on one today. Right now.

[Host 3]

That's Asia. That's how you. That's that.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

I would not have had a chance.

[Host 1]

A apostrophe J, A. How would you go with Ja?

[Host 2]

Like it's like African.

[Host 3]

It's my best guess. I don't know. I don't want to get it wrong. I'm just gonna pass. Ms. Wilson, if you're not married.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No, not yet. She's dating Bam. Out of bayou for Miami Heat.

[Host 3]

Is she now?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Can you imagine a kid that they'll have?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

How old is that kid, before they could beat you.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Their son.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Or daughter.

[Host 1]

Yeah. If they have a son. How old is it? Would. Would that kid have to be before he could.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Well, time's not on my side, Ron.

[Host 1]

Okay, how about you right now, if you were preserved in glass, 50 year old you, how old could there could Asia Wilson and Bam out of bios kid be before they beat you?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Is it a boy or a girl? Boy, probably 13, 14.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Maybe even before that. Honestly, he might be a monster.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Because the kids, they get the kids starting out young now.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

They do.

[Host 2]

You're three, you're in training.

[Host 1]

They're always in those AAU teams with the pink jersey.

[Host 2]

Oh yeah. Those neon.

[Host 1]

They always have the pink and neon jersey. The Julian Newman.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah. And for some reason imagine their AAU team when they. When he gets older though, with that dad and that mom.

[Host 1]

She's six four.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Oh my God, bro. The whole family would beat our ass basketball at any moment.

[Host 1]

Six four, he's six nine.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, that's probably being nice.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

He's got to be bigger than that.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, it's huge. Not to mention how. I'm sorry to cut you off, but not to mention how good he is in basketball.

[Host 2]

He's good.

[Host 3]

Bam and her scored 83 points.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah. I don't know how I forgot how he blanked on that.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

And she's quite possibly the best ladies basketball player ever. Really? Quite possibly.

[Host 3]

Wow.

[Host 1]

She's sick.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yes, she is.

[Host 3]

Where did she go to college? Yukon?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No, South Carolina.

[Host 3]

Oh, wow. Cradle of the Union.

[Host 1]

What is it? Is that what it's called?

[Host 3]

Not the Union. Cradle of the Confederacy. Jesus.

[Host 1]

I just didn't know if they. They renamed it or something like that. Beautiful city, though. Charleston.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Charleston, South Carolina. Do you ever go there in Columbia though?

[Host 2]

I never been.

[Host 3]

I've been across the ships there. A lot of hotties in.

[Host 1]

In Columbia or Charleston?

[Host 3]

Charleston.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

A lot of hotties.

[Host 3]

Yeah. That's where all the Charles. That's where all the hot girls are.

[Host 2]

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[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I do not, man. I like play. I'll shoot around. Play horse. Yeah.

[Host 1]

I just saw a video you showed me you golfing on your phone. You said scroll either way. I scroll one direction, it was a dick pic. I scrolled the other direction and it was a fucking he. You like hitting like bounce pass shots at your high school?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Oh yeah.

[Host 1]

Like doing the bounce pass shot.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You mean just like for fun?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Oh yeah, I got that. I got a big bag of fun.

[Host 3]

Do they, do they honor you at your high school more because you went to the NBA or because you were the first person to go to college from there?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You know what? I'm going to go with the NBA because I'm not so sure who the first person wants to go to college. But actually my high school is not a high school anymore. It's a. It's a junior, it's a middle school. Oh, nice.

[Host 1]

Oh yeah, same curriculum.

[Host 3]

They just had to keep holding people back. They were like, look, let's just get rid of that.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's right. But yeah, it's. It's a good place. Great place.

[Host 3]

Nice.

[Host 1]

Yeah. That was nice that you went back. How was it being back in the town? Was it like memories flooding back to you like, this is where I had my first kiss, this is where I went to prom type. Or was it just like reg?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Just regular day for me, bro. Yeah. I mean, let's get some good food.

[Host 2]

Fried baloney, fried bologna.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

When's the last time you had. Have you ever had bologna?

[Host 2]

I've had bologna. I've never had it fried though.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Really? Just like cold?

[Host 1]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host 2]

I don't. I'm not a big fan of it.

[Host 1]

Didn't you have the balloopas when Brandon Walker was making the belupas?

[Host 2]

I don't think so.

[Host 1]

The bologna chalupas that were like, those are fried. I don't remember to bring them around on the yak.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Cheese.

[Host 1]

Definitely had them. We had them on the case race.

[Host 2]

They were making balloopas never seen this before.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah. So this. They got like a. They're like this thick slice, like that thick with like, some kind of like, barbecue type sauce on it.

[Host 3]

It's good.

[Host 2]

Little bologna.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Francis, what would it take for you to eat that?

[Host 3]

Dude, I've had this. I've had it. It's very similar to pork roll, right? I've had pork roll.

[Host 1]

Oh, yeah, that's similar. Yeah, you got to put the little snip in it.

[Host 3]

Yeah, I've had that. I don't love it.

[Host 1]

Like Hulk shirt before he rips it. Kind of like.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Little slit in it. You don't like it?

[Host 3]

No, Too much sodium.

[Host 2]

Oh, well, I mean, baloney. That's going to do it. Yeah, a lot of sodium.

[Host 3]

That's what I'm saying.

[Host 1]

Sodium.

[Host 2]

The cold cuts.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Do they make bologna the same way they make hot dogs?

[Host 2]

I think it's got to be similar. I mean, you ever get like the. The. What is the. What's like the original, like the bologna that you would get and it's like the. Just the perfect circles and you just like, peel them off.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

The red stripe.

[Host 2]

Yeah, Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I forget the name of it, but I wouldn't go that way. I'll just. Because that takes too long.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You know what I mean?

[Host 1]

But it's just the whole loaf. You mean you're talking about like, Oscar Meyer, like, you peel it off. I think I'm thinking Oscar stripes of baloney in there.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I think I'm thinking the Oscar Meyer where it's just the pad. You just get the thick pad of bologna.

[Host 1]

But isn't like mortadella. Isn't that basically just Italian bologna?

[Host 3]

I thought mortadella was cheese, to be honest with you.

[Host 2]

You're thinking of mozzarella.

[Host 3]

I may be. Well, but for some reason, I always just thought that was like. You hear that as part of these sandwiches that are made at Italian delis. And I always thought it was. I always thought mortadel.

[Host 1]

It's a cheese. It's a. It's a meat. It looks like. But that's basically like bologna. It's like on the same type of round loaf.

[Host 2]

For some reason, it looks better.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That is not bologna.

[Host 2]

No, that's not bologna.

[Host 1]

You don't think so?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Why?

[Host 1]

Because there's a in it.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

They didn't have that in West Virginia, so it can't be baloney.

[Host 1]

You don't think so? I'm sure that they have something Just like that in West Virginia.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Everybody's in West Virginia has even ever said that word.

[Host 2]

More than doubt.

[Host 3]

Oh, it's a portmanteau of morta something and portadello or lardello. You see that?

[Host 1]

No, I didn't realize it was a portmanteau.

[Host 3]

Portmanteau. Portmanteau, Jason, is two words that have been smushed together to create one. Man. I knew you were going to ask me that. Can we look up some famous portmanteaus? It's P O, R, T M A

[Host 1]

N T, E, A U. Portmanteau. I didn't think we'd be getting into portmanteaus. I'm trying to think. It'd be nice to get think of one brunch.

[Host 3]

Is one brunch. Smog, smogel. Spork, Froyo, Cyborg cosplay.

[Host 1]

Gerrymander. What the Gerrymanders.

[Host 3]

Benifer. When Ben Affleck and Jennifer and.

[Host 2]

Oh, wow. Internet's one. Very interesting.

[Host 3]

Pretty good.

[Host 2]

This is top tier podcasting right here.

[Host 3]

Yeah, it is. Spam. There you go. Spam. That's up your alley. Spice Plus.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, not me. I'm Baloney Guy. I'm fancy. That shit comes in a can. I don't do that shit.

[Host 3]

I have a question that should. So I. I've recently been traveling quite a lot, and, you know, you realize in that so many people know, even no matter what, where they grew up, they end up moving back there eventually because they liked the way they were raised and they think that that's like, ultimately the center of the universe, whatever the case. Where you grew up.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Was there ever a part of you that was like, someday I'd like to come back and raise a family here? Or were you like, I hope to make enough money that I never have to come back here?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I never really thought about coming back there at all, but I never really thought about leaving either. Does that make sense? Yes, it does.

[Host 1]

That doesn't make sense to me.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's a good thing because I'm talking to France. No, but yeah, I couldn't go back to West Virginia and live. Not because it's my. My favorite place, but just because of the cold weather. I'm not living anywhere. Cold weather.

[Host 3]

Oh, okay. Wow. That's amazing that it bothers you so much.

[Host 2]

So even growing up there, you were like, I fucking hate this cold weather.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, that's.

[Host 2]

That's crazy.

[Host 3]

Not even that cold of a place.

[Host 2]

West Virginia. Yeah, it definitely gets cold.

[Host 3]

Come on. Compared to Minnesota, Maine, whatever. Northern States it's nothing.

[Host 2]

Maybe not Minnesota, but it definitely gets cold.

[Host 1]

It was pretty cold.

[Host 2]

It's like mountain mountains.

[Host 3]

Are you covered? Did you have snow for most of the winter?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

We did.

[Host 3]

On the ground?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Like, feet of it. No dustings?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No, we had. We had. You know, we'd get out of school and like that for snow.

[Host 3]

Oh, you had snow days?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Can't imagine that's happening much anymore.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Did you grow up among the smoky wines?

[Host 2]

Not be happening.

[Host 3]

Nobody has snow days anymore.

[Host 2]

Yeah, they do.

[Host 3]

Not really.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah. My sisters had, like, weeks off of school.

[Host 3]

Oh, that's because you guys go to Duxbury.

[Host 2]

No, that has nothing to do with school.

[Host 3]

If there's a.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You know, my kids were gonna get out of school in Orlando because it's gonna be like, 30 or 25.

[Host 1]

No precipitation just because.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Zero pursuit sun. I think the reason is because there's no heat in the school.

[Host 1]

25.

[Host 2]

Oh, really?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

That's crazy.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

What, they got a plan better for that down there? Has it? I'm assuming it never snows in Florida, right?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I've lived there since zero. Ever since.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I have a similar question, because I was wondering why you wound up in Orlando. Why do so many. Or. It feels like a lot of pro athletes wind up in the last place that they played. Like, if somebody plays his last couple seasons on the Eagles, maybe they stay in Philadelphia.

[Host 2]

There's no one does that. Yeah, I'm getting the. Out of Philly.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I don't.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Like, if you could choose to live in Philly. Why would you. You could choose to live in Chicago or New York. I'm just that kind of dude. I'm not. I'm not living in these cities.

[Host 2]

No.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Way too cold.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I mean, like, Jason Kelce played in Philly. Now he lives there permanently. Like, Anthony Rizzo played in New York, now he. He lives in New York. Like, I think there's a lot of athletes.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's two out of.

[Host 2]

I was gonna say.

[Host 3]

Those are terrible.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Travis. Kelsey's gonna live in Kansas City when he's done.

[Host 1]

It depends on what Taylor wants to do. You think? It's her family.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

She's in and out every time.

[Host 1]

There's got to be some people that have stayed in Kansas City.

[Host 2]

She's probably. She genuinely probably has never even slept.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Let's get on the jet, fly out to the next date, and we'll come back.

[Host 1]

They left immediately. Well, your last stop was Orlando.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, but I've had a house. And you live in 02.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's been home for me since 02.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

So. But I've always had a house, whatever city I played in because I have wife and kids and dogs. They don't they with me. They're not staying.

[Host 1]

Yeah, got it.

[Host 3]

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[Host 3]

How does it work in the NBA? You know, you, you travel. You've 82 games a year. 41 of those are away games. As far as declaring where your permanent residence is, I'm assuming that effectively you spend fewer than half the year in your permanent residence anyway. Would you be allowed to choose almost any state to make your permanent residence or do does it have to be the state in which the team you play for?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No, you can choose.

[Host 3]

You can literally choose any state.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You can. But obviously, you know, we play taxes in every city that we play. All that too. Yeah.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

So I mean, I think that's kind of for guys like on the west coast because they got playing in California a lot more times than teams on the east coast.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Sucks.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, it sucks.

[Host 1]

But we're in Texas though. I mean there's. That's a huge come up.

[Host 3]

Yeah, people talk about like wanting to play for the Knicks or these major market teams. It's like I would play for Tampa Bay over the Knicks any day of the week.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Well, I think all these superstars would like to play for the Knicks because it doesn't affect them.

[Host 3]

They're just making enough that it doesn't matter.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, I mean, but I get, I get your point.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Do a lot of guys pick where they live based on the tax implications? Is that why guys are going to Florida? Because there's still a lot of ex NBA guys who are in California just getting fucked on taxes?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, I don't know. I'd like to say yeah, that's why they do that. But. But a lot of them probably had to ask their wives why they're living there instead of them.

[Host 1]

And what about. And that's why Orlando was appealing to you?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I like Orlando. I mean, I went to school. Florida got it. So Orlando's great.

[Host 1]

How many. How often do you ride the ride?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

So at Disney, anywhere. I mean, in the fast pass, used to, like. Like when my kids were younger, I told my wife I would go like once a summer. Like, they got the year long pass and shit. But I'll go once because they had this thing, like a celebrity tour. A guide. You can get a guide. They will pick you up from the house. They bring a van, pick up the whole family from. From the house, take you back to Disney. And I don't know if you guys are familiar with Disney, but all the parks, it seems like they're built, like, in a circle. And the middle of all the parks are, like, in the back of the parks. It's like everywhere.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

So we just park there and walk over to Epcot, Walker to Magic Kingdom, whatever. So I would let them use me once a year to get through the lines and shit like that. Like, I'm talking about people standing in lines for two hours. You guys have been to Disney, and she stand in line for two hours and ride a ride for like 10 seconds. Yeah, but we walk straight up the exit line and get on the ride. And if the kids wanted to ride it again, they would just say, yeah, we want to ride it again, and just not get up. As the cart comes in and you're ready to get on that cart, there's three or four motherfuckers that stayed on the car. How pissed would you be? Furious. Yeah, furious.

[Host 3]

I mean, that's like. Like disabled level privilege.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah. The checkbook. You write the check, you get it.

[Host 3]

You had to be a marquee player for the Magic to get, like, wheelchair child level?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Maybe not even that. Just. Just the bank account had to match up for it.

[Host 3]

Oh, did you make, like a donation or something?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No, it's like $400 an hour. For the. For that. For that status.

[Host 3]

That's a lot.

[Host 1]

Oh, you're paying for that?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I thought they were, like, offering it to you.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Disney ain't giving nothing for free.

[Host 1]

I think Dave got, like. I think Dave rode with, like, some of the special needs people that work here. And, like, it was like he brought, like, five people that work here to Disney World, and they were taking him up to all these rides. I doubt that he was coming out. Maybe he was coming out of pocket. I don't know.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Meek Phil got molested on It's a Small World.

[Host 1]

No, but he did that to get the fast pass, right.

[Host 3]

Yeah, that's right.

[Host 1]

He did it on purpose.

[Host 2]

That shit would get me fired up, though, for sure. If I was waiting in line.

[Host 1]

He just rode.

[Host 2]

He just went.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's right.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm not a big. The lines at Disney would definitely destroy me.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I hate it.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I don't think I'd be able

[Host 1]

to, especially for with kids. Yeah, you got it. I think it's probably worth 400 an hour. And I bet it's gone up since then, for sure. It's probably like a thousand dollars an hour now. I feel like it would still be worth it just to make those days okay.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I mean, they, they. They'll get you a table for lunch and at whatever time you want anything. No skipping every line.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

People hate you.

[Host 2]

Yeah, they definitely.

[Host 1]

Is there somebody walking with you? You have like a guide. Disney. God.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

If you. If you got an odd number, they'll stay with the kid or somebody don't want to ride the ride.

[Host 3]

Oh, it's like the marker player in the Masters, correct? Yeah. That's like where on the last day, if. If the number of people who made the cut for the final round is an odd number because they play as twosomes.

[Host 1]

Okay.

[Host 3]

The person who's in last place under the cut, the last, or I guess technically, probably the first two ball to go off, plays with a member of Augusta National Golf Club. Who is this guy who's like, been a member for however many years, and he's like. He has the course record at Augusta National. He's an absolute ace, and a lot of the time he beats the pro that he's playing alongside. There's a famous story where, like, I don't want to get it wrong, I want to say it was John Rom, but it might not have been John Romney. Some player, pro, high profile pro that he was playing with in the Masters.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

He out drove him on a. On like a hole, an early hole, and the guy went up to him, was like, you're making me look bad. Don't do that again. He's like, okay, I'm sorry. On the next hole, he just blasted it over him again. Nobody tells me what the to do.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, I would not.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Would you. Would you not hit it? I'd be trying to hit it past 100. Yeah.

[Host 3]

100%. Yeah.

[Host 1]

There's a similar.

[Host 2]

That's why you're playing with Me. Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's why you're not playing with anyone on the tour.

[Host 1]

Yeah, there's a story about the. The line marker guy in Disney World too, who, like, fucking. He rode like so many rides back to back one day and they're like, stop. You can't fucking ride another ride. And he just fucking whipped the Tower of Terror again. Just the absolute fucking legend.

[Host 2]

Psycho buzz in the tower.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Did you get the Tower of Terror?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'm not idea, but I'm not. I'm not a fan.

[Host 2]

I never did that one.

[Host 1]

Too terrifying. It was way too terr. Terrifying.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Both times I hit it, I was terrified.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I'm trying to think of what the one I liked. Splash Mountain.

[Host 1]

Rock and roller Coaster, I think, you know, they shut down Splash Mountain.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Really?

[Host 1]

You know, I jumped off Splash Mountain right before. Before it went down.

[Host 2]

So you did as it was collapsing?

[Host 1]

No.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

The last day. I was the last man on Splash Mountain.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You've been to Epcot?

[Host 2]

Yeah, but I went when I was really young, so I didn't really. With Epcot, like, that one's more for, like, learning.

[Host 1]

Yeah, it's like to. Yeah, to learn about the. It's a Small World and.

[Host 2]

Yeah, exactly.

[Host 1]

With the German beer, you know.

[Host 3]

You know where I learned that? In Europe.

[Host 2]

Really?

[Host 3]

My parents took me to the actual countries. We didn't do some digitized nonsense version of a world tour. They actually cultured us. I had a passport before I was born. The photo on it is just the fucking ultrasound. Ultrasound photo. That's it.

[Host 2]

Trust us.

[Host 1]

This is what he looks like.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'm not talking about Epcot as in that fashion. I'm talking about the rides.

[Host 3]

What.

[Host 2]

What rides do they have?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

They have, like, one called Soarin.

[Host 2]

No, I never did that. I don't even know if I did that many of the rides. I was pretty terrified.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah. I could give two about the World

[Host 3]

and learn,

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You know, that was the least.

[Host 1]

Soaring.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, soaring. It's like it's not even really a ride. It's like. I can't explain it, man.

[Host 1]

There's some. Sometimes they would just, like, blow on your neck in there. Yeah. Like a tube and starting to shake you.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You start in Northern California and soar all the way down through Southern California.

[Host 2]

Are you actually in the air here?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No, it's a screen. Looks like you're in the air.

[Host 2]

I would definitely do that.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Oh, you'd love it. Yeah.

[Host 2]

That looks fun.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Like, we might. Me and my family might have rode that 17 straight times one. It's indoors.

[Host 1]

What do you mean?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

R.O.

[Host 3]

road.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Well, sat down in there. You know what I'm saying?

[Host 2]

17 times.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Just sitting in front of a screen, like, getting up, walking around, and then getting back in front of the screen.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Front row, too. I mean, you know, I mean, look at that.

[Host 1]

That looks like you're at an aquarium. You can, like, just look down at the ground.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No, no, no. They'll raise you up a little bit. Oh, they do? Yeah, they do. Like your feet can't touch.

[Host 2]

Oh, I like that.

[Host 1]

Oh, you're really soaring.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, you're soaring. You go over a golf course, a ball come at you and. Like that.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 3]

But this is my point, though, right? You see these people? They're soaring over the Golden Gate Bridge. I was just there. You don't experience the. The sound of the gulls and the breeze coming off of the Pacific or the screams of the people killing themselves.

[Host 1]

You got to be their impression to see them jump.

[Host 3]

Speaking of which, with our broad jump, we would have cleared those nets no problem. You know what I'm saying?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yes, sir.

[Host 2]

I don't even.

[Host 3]

I know you didn't even test it, but we would have died successfully.

[Host 1]

Triple jump is also sick. The triple jump. I know the long jump isn't really your guy's flavor, but the triple jump is so sick. You ever see that?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Of course I've seen. I'm 50, bro.

[Host 1]

You don't think the triple jump's pretty impressive?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I think they're definitely athletic. Yeah, but.

[Host 2]

But again, I've never seen this.

[Host 3]

This one seems the most unnecessary to me.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Like, to me, hitting a backhand in tennis is way harder than this.

[Host 1]

That dude flies.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

I'm not taking anything away from Bud.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah. That's the thing. It's like. Like, I guess, like, at this level, it makes sense because it's the highest level. So, like, they probably are the best to do it. Maybe. But, like, don't you think, like, if Saquan Barkley just got out there, he's clearing 10ft.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I was going to go. I want you to go through how many highlights he can find of. Of long jumps. And there's not many black people doing it.

[Host 1]

Yeah, exactly.

[Host 3]

No, but.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

But if these guys or NBA long. We want to jump long into a sand pit, that going to do.

[Host 3]

Jumping long is a skill to some people.

[Host 1]

But.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

But, but you make no money jumping long.

[Host 3]

No, but you can be remembered at Harvard.

[Host 2]

You're right. You're right. The money's not in long.

[Host 3]

10 high.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Correct. That's right.

[Host 3]

That's right. I will say the. I think that the triple jumpers, if they were anybody, they'd be doing the long jump. I think this is the like fucking jv way out of actually realizing you can't do it that well.

[Host 1]

60ft. He did 60ft in three jumps. That's fucking nuts. That's floating 60ft.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No, look at him. Yeah, look at him, John.

[Host 2]

Jonathan Edwards.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No athleticism in Jonathan's body at all.

[Host 1]

That's. There's not three steps from the 20 yard line. What are you talking about? That's not athletic.

[Host 2]

No.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

What?

[Host 2]

There's not a three step from the 20.

[Host 3]

Giannis can go to the rim from half court with one dribble. That's that.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

And dunk it.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, I also don't think, I don't understand any sort of, like, not that they have this, but real world application of this. Like, I can't imagine there's a place where there's three 19 foot streams in a row where you have to jump. You know what I mean? Whereas like I've had to water hazards at a golf course. I'm like, I don't want to go around, so I back up and jump across. Long jump.

[Host 1]

Right.

[Host 3]

Three. Three in a row seems highly.

[Host 2]

Three in a row. You'd have to be moving to what's

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

more impressive, Jonathan jumping how many feet?

[Host 2]

60. 60.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Or, or somebody dunking a basketball from the foul line. It's only 15ft or 18ft, whatever it is.

[Host 1]

Yeah, but that's.

[Host 3]

No, no, no.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, but don't be like my wife. Just give me a answer. Say, yeah, Jay Will. You're probably right, bro. You got me. Instead of trying to, you know, I mean that. Yeah, you got me, dog.

[Host 3]

Imagine Jonathan trying to dunk from the foul line. He just smashed into the stanchion,

[Host 2]

Just

[Host 1]

no jump at all.

[Host 3]

The top of the ball might breeze the bottom of the net.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Clear the. He would clear the baseline for sure.

[Host 1]

Disparage these Olympic athletes. These guys are freak athletes.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'm not saying they're not.

[Host 1]

You guys are saying they are.

[Host 2]

I'm saying I'm, I'm saying I think there's a lot of them that might not be freak out Jonathan. Like, he could be a freak. Who knows at long jumping at exactly. When you bring him down to the. You get him to the combine, he's like, oh, you run a. You're in a 10 second 40.

[Host 1]

No, it wouldn't be like that. Get him on the slam ball court and see what he could do. He's probably a beast at slam ball.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Ball.

[Host 1]

You ever watch slam ball? Remember when that was on like, what was that on espn?

[Host 3]

Spike? TNT or something like that? I liked slam ball. But the thing about that was weird about slam ball was that the rules meant I think you could like there was full contact allowed in certain times.

[Host 1]

Yes.

[Host 3]

But most of these guys, like, weren't really thinking about that. And then every once in a while, out of nowhere, somebody would just like full body check another guy and that guy be like, dude, we, we, we don't actually do that. We all agreed that that didn't need to be part of this.

[Host 1]

We get paid very little. Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

This reminds me of roller derby. Yeah, roller derby.

[Host 2]

Those trampolines are sick. Those are the ones that bounce highest.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Like I'd like to go out there just by ourselves and just, you know,

[Host 3]

see, There you go. That's what I'm talking about.

[Host 2]

Contact.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah. None of that. Let's just go out. You get your ball, I get mine, and we do, we have fun.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Play it separate sides of the court.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Do you think, do you think that these guys are more likely failed NBA players or failed gymnasts?

[Host 2]

I think, to be honest, I think they probably first to see like the flyer sign up.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I don't think these people are.

[Host 3]

Do you like basketball and trampoline?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Well, we've got something for you.

[Host 1]

Just a casting call. Yeah. I bet there's some football players in there too though.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Do that dunk the slam ball.

[Host 1]

Yeah. The guys that want to hit basketball players don't want to hit or get hit for the most part.

[Host 2]

I love those.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You mean. Hold up, hold up.

[Host 1]

I'm talking about you. That's all you ever talked about. I said, why do you, why do you quit football? Because I didn't like to get hit.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

It seemed like you, the way your eyebrows were concocted there when he was talking that like that, you meant basketball players aren't physical or the NBA is not physical?

[Host 1]

Don't put words in my mouth.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

It just looked like that.

[Host 1]

What I said, my concoction said nothing to do with that. It was just that I don't think they want to get tackled for the most part.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

NBA guys. Yeah, I agree.

[Host 2]

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[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You didn't like the physicality?

[Host 2]

Yeah. I mean, I played hockey for a while and then when I got into like the Lee, like the league where you could start like checking, I was like, I was also. That was the worst. I was. So I was on like the C team.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And then the C team would just be a combination of guys from different sports who like guys that played football who were like, I want something to do in the off season.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And they just wanted to hit people. And like, they didn't even know how to skate. And I was like, probably like five foot one. And there'd be a dude that was like, one of the guys on our team ended up going to Notre Dame as like a. An alignment. I got wrecked and just went head first.

[Host 1]

He probably never even thought about.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah. I got off. I got off the ice and my parents were like, you're done, dude.

[Host 3]

When I went from middle school to high school and I tried out for the varsity team, my freshman year in high school is a completely different thing. Like, we weren't that physical in middle school.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

And then all of a sudden it was like there were. There were guys on my team that were just meatheads. And there was particular. In particular, there was a senior named Matt Ginn. And the. His whole purpose was to like teach the rookies what they. What zone of pain they'd entered into. Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

So his dad beat him.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

First, I'll never forget, like, in tryouts, like, going for a ground ball and, like, picking it up, passing it, and getting hit, like, five seconds late, full body check to the ground. And the coach came over and like, lifted me up, and he goes, don't let them see cry.

[Host 2]

Oh, my God.

[Host 3]

And I was like, what? I wasn't good. Now, I will now put that in my mind. But, you know, this kid was a fucking menace, an absolute menace. And now I'm pretty sure he has opened, like, a sushi restaurant in Portland, Maine, and it's getting written up in, like, the James Beard Awards and stuff like that. And it's such. I cannot imagine someone with his. His brutality.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

Becoming a precise artist of, like, you know, yellow tail and.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

Sushi.

[Host 2]

He was. Yeah, maybe he did. He transferred all of his rage to the culinary.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Or he's just stabbing the side of a huge.

[Host 3]

Yanking the tuna with his hands.

[Host 2]

I will say, like, in all of the. All the years that I played hockey, like, the. I played lacrosse for, like, two years. I think, like, every time, like, the amount, like, I had been. I got, like, slashed. I took, like, pucks to, like, like, the center of my stomach. Like. Like that. Nothing hurt more than playing lacrosse for like, half a game. Like, half a game of lacrosse. I would be in more pain than my entire career.

[Host 3]

Your forearms there. There'd be a little gap between your glove and your arm pads, and they would just hit right here with a metal pole.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

So often full slash, iceberg.

[Host 2]

You think, oh, on purpose you're trying

[Host 3]

to hit your stick. In theory, but that they know that like.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Like, it's hard to call that.

[Host 3]

You can get. Well, technically, it's not even really illegal. If they do, like, three windups in a row and don't hit your stick, then they might get called for a slash, but they'll get two free ones.

[Host 2]

I was playing. I remember they said it was just if they two hand, then it's illegal, but if it's like a. If they're just like, jabbing you, which. That kills.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Like, it doesn't look like it would hurt, but, like, it hurts, dude.

[Host 3]

I would get. I would get slashed on the back below my shoulder pads. And you'd lift your shirt up later and there would be. Be a perfect outline of the head of the lacrosse stick. Sometimes if it was the side, you'd actually read brine or warrior, like, on your back.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Is lacrosse more physical than hockey?

[Host 2]

I don't know if it's more physical. I think it's just. There's less padding. Like in lacrosse. Like, lacrosse, it's like you have, like, this is all just open.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

And that's where they're attacking you.

[Host 3]

I don't think lacrosse is more physical than hockey. I think hockey is more physical for a few reasons. One, in lacrosse, we don't have boards, so, you know, they're hitting each other the other end of the boards, which is pretty dangerous.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Seems like a bigger space to run around in, too.

[Host 3]

Yeah. You get hit and lacrosse, you're just flying off into space or, like, parents or something.

[Host 2]

Getting hit into the boards, though, doesn't actually hurt.

[Host 3]

That's what everyone says. Until you realize, like, people get paralyzed that way.

[Host 2]

It's like that you. When you get in, I think it's what is, like, the Bantams is the league, the age group, where you start hitting and in Bantams, before you sign up for Bantams, they make you go and take a bunch of courses on, like, how to get hit properly and, like, how to take a check. Yeah. Stuff like that.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Your buddy should teach that class how to get up.

[Host 1]

Did you guys have people in your high school that at, like, parties or even early in college that would just, like, tackle somebody?

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 1]

Just. You're just, like, standing around, and then someone just, like, spears the. Out of someone that's just standing ill.

[Host 2]

Just randomly getting physical.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah. You had that all the time.

[Host 3]

I hated that. I didn't like people who, when they were drunk, would, like, hug me too hard.

[Host 2]

I hate that.

[Host 3]

I hate physical bruising. Guys who are, like, trying to, like, you know, I hate being tickled or whatever.

[Host 2]

Great sketch about the.

[Host 1]

What is it?

[Host 2]

It's like. It's like your one friend who starts getting weirdly physical. Like, when. When the hoes get around. Oh, yeah.

[Host 1]

And you just, like, box y.

[Host 2]

He's like, bro, what are you doing? But it is like, that's pretty much all of middle school and high school is you just have one friend who just consistently is just punching you a dick. Yeah. And you're just like, what are you doing, dude?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

And he can fight and probably beat everybody up.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

The dudes who tackled were, like, dudes who could, like, beat people up.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And then they would just, like, tackle somebody who was, like, really drunk into, like, a chair. Like a folding chair. You just get, like, bundled.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Did that person not do anything back. Back?

[Host 1]

No, because they're probably, like, skinnier and, like, super drunk or. I don't know. It's just like, everyone's like, laughing. They're like, I don't know. That's. I think that's just Taxi boy was

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

his friends laughing as he got tackled. Yeah, that was the worst, bro.

[Host 2]

Yeah, that is annoying thing.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

It's brutal.

[Host 2]

It is a thing, though, very consistently.

[Host 1]

Yeah, I guess just insecure. Insecure, dude. Or. I don't know. Oh, my God.

[Host 2]

It's pretty funny how funny it is with no audio, too. Yeah. So you still get it.

[Host 3]

That's how you know he's really good.

[Host 1]

Yeah, he's really got it. Do you look down on him for not going on the stage? I know he tells a story about Kevin Hart being like, when you really gonna step up and get in the ring? Basically being like, you're not a real comedian unless you get on stage and tell jokes.

[Host 2]

I would say Drew Ski's funnier than, like, 99 of comedians.

[Host 3]

Honestly, I admire him more for not going on stage. It's like he knows what he's incredible at and doesn't do that obvious thing where it's like, yeah, I've done some funny movies. I'm gonna. Let's go do some stand up.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Time to tour the world.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

He did have a tour, though.

[Host 2]

He did. He was, like, opening for, like, J. Cole.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Drew Ski was?

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Like, when he first got on.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Like, right when he was, like, first blowing up.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

How old is he?

[Host 1]

28 or something. Looks like he's pretty young.

[Host 2]

I remember finding him in. I was a freshman in college, and he was posting videos. He had, like, all these, like. The original video that he, like, blew up from, I think was the one where he was, like, a frat dude. He just plays like a frat dude and he's just itching his balls the whole time.

[Host 1]

So he's, like, getting his underwear. Yeah, dude. You guys gotta go. Are you a brother here? Who do you know here? That is so funny.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Did you ever have to kick people out of a house party, Francis? Or like, a frat party or a social club party? Finals club party?

[Host 3]

No, no. And I waited until you got it right.

[Host 1]

I knew it was in there.

[Host 3]

I. No, I didn't.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I.

[Host 3]

We didn't. I didn't. They didn't, like, run the door or anything like that. We were lucky. We didn't have to do that. We just had, like, a guy. We called her. They were called stewards, who, like, were staff, but they paid, you know, salaries and stuff, and they were adults. One of them had a gun.

[Host 1]

Dang. Shit.

[Host 3]

He ran the door.

[Host 1]

You had a bouncer With a gun and he was running the door.

[Host 3]

Well, because, I mean, we were in the middle of Cambridge, and, like, the door was right to the street. So, like, sometimes we'd have parties and, like, a homeless dude would try to come.

[Host 2]

Oh, yeah, makes sense.

[Host 3]

And you'd have.

[Host 1]

You'd have to shoot him.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

You'd have to kill them.

[Host 3]

Shoot him in the leg. It's like, oh, now he's limping on both sides.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Even him out.

[Host 3]

Did you ever.

[Host 2]

Did you guys ever get kicked, like, not kicked out, but, like, not allowed into a party?

[Host 3]

Oh, all the time.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Yeah, it's the worst.

[Host 3]

That would. That happened all the time.

[Host 2]

I took notes, but why?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Why wouldn't you be allowed?

[Host 2]

I took mental notes every time time said, I remember that face.

[Host 3]

Yeah. I wrote it down and put it on my wall.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Let me get your full government name real quick before I bounce. I'm gonna keep track of you for the rest of your life.

[Host 3]

Why weren't we allowed in?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I mean, you just go to parties and people are like, no.

[Host 3]

And you're like, we're at capacity, bro.

[Host 2]

Didn't expect that to happen. House parties like that. Yeah. Club. I mean. Yeah, that happens.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Don't you just circle back around now, trade shirts. Not necessarily guns. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Something has to be done now.

[Host 2]

That's what you want to do as a kid. But we never really had the right. The option to light it up, But I would. I mean, now there's rocks everywhere. Yeah, I know.

[Host 1]

At Penn State, there'd be frat parties, and, like, football players wouldn't get in. And they just want to brawl. Brawl with the fat frat brothers. The football players against the frat brothers on the lawn. Tyler, I know you saw that.

[Host 2]

I mean, same thing.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Because they're taking the broad. The girls.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Probably had something to do with it.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

There's so many girls in there.

[Host 2]

Probably.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Not enough.

[Host 1]

And they're all for the brothers. Sorry. Those are all for the home team. Not for you, bro. Have your own party college.

[Host 2]

I never really got it because I didn't go to a college that had, like, Greek life.

[Host 3]

But

[Host 2]

I definitely remember in high school being like, a parties that we clearly weren't invited to. And Bo was a big, like, let's just go. They're not gonna care. And then we'd go, and they'd be like, no. And then we'd be like, that's exactly what I thought was gonna happen.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

It's a terrible feeling.

[Host 2]

Yeah. And then just slowly walk back to the car.

[Host 3]

You want to know something funny? I mentioned Briggs earlier. So Riggs is a barstool guy. Golfer, you know him, of course. And Riggs was a class ahead of me when I got to Harvard, and he was at a club called the Delphic. And as a freshman, they were one of the few clubs that kind of had a more open door policy specifically to their basement parties, which were really fun. And very often, since he was a sophomore, he would be the guy at the door. And I will say he was probably great at that. He was very nice about it.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Real.

[Host 3]

He was like the one guy who would be like, yeah, come on in. Like, to everyone, kind of.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Oh, really?

[Host 3]

Yeah, that was my memory.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's good.

[Host 2]

That's hilarious of him.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I would not have imagined that at all.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You know, the opposite.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I would have said the opposite.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

It.

[Host 3]

He was pretty cool.

[Host 2]

Where are your hoes?

[Host 1]

Who do you know?

[Host 3]

I mean, we would just. Yeah. Like five little freshman dudes showing up and be like, all right, come on.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

What about. Did they ever ask for, like 20 bucks, 5 bucks, something like that?

[Host 3]

Not really. I mean, these clubs had budgets, they had slush funds, so they would cover the cost of the keg or whatever.

[Host 1]

I know you never had a problem getting into a party at Florida.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I didn't go to many parties, but the ones that I've never been told no. What type is that?

[Host 1]

Even you weren't drinking, so, like, you drink at all? You went into a party at Florida and just posted up.

[Host 2]

You never. You didn't drink when you were younger either?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Never, never.

[Host 1]

So it sucks. It wasn't. It was probably like. It's probably like an annoying energy, like going to a Florida party and everybody's shit faced. And also there's a. Cocaine was probably pure.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Somebody's smoking some dope.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Somewhere in a party you found that.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah. I'm not going to go there and stand and watch y' all drink and around.

[Host 2]

Yeah, I know that sounds like.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Hell, yeah. I wouldn't. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

I love the image of someone holding a clipboard at a door and you're like, he'. Like, I'm not seeing white here.

[Host 1]

Could it be under something else?

[Host 3]

Should I try chocolate? I don't chocolate either.

[Host 1]

Look like chocolate.

[Host 3]

Jason. We got a lot of Jason.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Well, one I would never show up with just me.

[Host 2]

Yeah. Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'll be with a bunch of black guys, probably.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Athletes. So, yeah, we're good to go. That's cool.

[Host 1]

We're getting in here. What? Who was on the football team? At that time in Florida.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Oh, yeah. Fred Taylor.

[Host 1]

Oh.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Danny Warfel was the quarterback.

[Host 1]

Oh, that's it.

[Host 3]

Sick.

[Host 1]

Were you buddies with those guys at all?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

What's that?

[Host 1]

Were you friends with those guys at all? Of course. Amazing.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, we had a lot of classes together.

[Host 3]

I have a two part question. Do you have more black friends than white friends? And if so, why don't you like us?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

No, I think I probably have more white friends. Like, a friend is like. I mean, there aren't too many black guys at golf. Let's be real. I play a lot of golf.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

So, yeah, I'm gonna go with white.

[Host 3]

Good. That's what I wanted to hear.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

I would have been fine with either.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You would have.

[Host 2]

Yeah. I don't have a preference.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

We're just people, right?

[Host 2]

Yeah, exactly.

[Host 1]

And see, I was hoping to breathe the same air.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's right. Blood is red.

[Host 2]

Yeah, exactly.

[Host 1]

Cut these fellas and they bleed.

[Host 3]

I'm having a lot of.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I got a question for you. You got all these questions for me.

[Host 3]

You were. I've said this. You were someone I really admired as a kid. So it's very fun for me to talk to you.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I appreciate that. Is that just because I was a white guy and was athlet.

[Host 1]

Athletic?

[Host 3]

Probably. You made me dream.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I love it.

[Host 1]

But you were doing cool shit, though. You weren't your garden variety white guy. You weren't Greg Ostertag.

[Host 3]

No. I was a huge Steve Nash fan too.

[Host 1]

But he was doing cool shit too, though. Like there's. There's lumbering white guys.

[Host 3]

Vitaly Potapenko loved him.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

He was. He reminded me of that guy, the sushi owner now, Matt Ginn. I bet you Potapenko was like that growing up.

[Host 3]

I wonder.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, I bet you.

[Host 3]

Where's he from, though?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Like, Ukraine or like Slovenia?

[Host 3]

Yeah. They learned to dribble with bayonets. You know what I mean?

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's probably why I can't dribble too well. But no, the question. When are we going to play some golf?

[Host 3]

Yes. So I have a direct answer for that. My course that I'm so excited to show you. Bayonne Golf Club redid the entire fourth green this year, and the new green is opening this week, the first week of May. I didn't want to bring you there when they had a temporary green on the middle of the fairway. I want you to see the course in all its splendor. So anytime, starting like next week on, I will be thrilled to have you.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Well, what. What temperatures do you like to Play

[Host 3]

golf in, you know, 70s.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Like how slow as you go 70?

[Host 3]

No, I would go. I would play in 50 degree weather. But I'm. I'm assuming, like what's ideal.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Like you're looking for warm.

[Host 3]

You want it to be high hot.

[Host 2]

You're looking for like 90s.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I don't mind that, but I'd rather be 80s.

[Host 3]

Yeah. Then probably June would be the right time to wait for. Honestly, they do their big member guests in June, so that's probably when the course is at its be good. Purest.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Let's do it then.

[Host 3]

I. I would like to do it more than once.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Oh, I would too.

[Host 3]

Great.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

But at your course. Let's go when it's warm.

[Host 3]

Bingo.

[Host 1]

It starts with one. You got to get one in first.

[Host 3]

We'll get one in.

[Host 2]

One in.

[Host 3]

Yeah. So easy for you because as I said said you'll come. You'll come in, fly into Newark or whatever, come do your pod. Then we'll go out on the boat over there and then you'll take the Uber from the course to. Back to Newark and it's like 10 minutes from the course.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I need four aside. I'll be good to go. It'll just solidify the deal.

[Host 3]

Deal. Four aside.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

That's generous.

[Host 2]

Four aside.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'm playing good right now. That's why.

[Host 3]

No, but I'm saying, like, like you don't deserve that many strokes off me. If you're a 10, what are you? Five? I would say like, I'm. I'm probably supposed to give you three aside. Two to three aside. Oh, yeah. Three.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

We're not using your math.

[Host 3]

Okay, we can do four, especially since it's I home for quick. What?

[Host 2]

You back down quick on that.

[Host 3]

I have faith.

[Host 1]

But he might be a. He might be a sandbagger though.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Could Sass and I play you and Roan at golf.

[Host 3]

Yeah, that would be pretty fair there.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Probably like we do like a shamble.

[Host 1]

But he's good though.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

We'll do like a scramble.

[Host 1]

But he's good.

[Host 3]

I'm better enough than Harry at. Than Harry the last time we played all of your shots then most likely. But.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

But what we would do putter two a bit.

[Host 3]

The putting is really where it. Because we'd have you putt first, which would show me the line and that's a huge advantage.

[Host 1]

Got it. Got it. So I'm actually super important in this putting wise.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You also make the team. Seems even.

[Host 2]

Yeah, exactly.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I feel good about yourself.

[Host 1]

Someone has to be the fourth best.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Exactly.

[Host 1]

And that's Only three away from the best. So I'm like right there with you guys.

[Host 2]

Honestly, you got some time too. You could practice before.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, let's set that up.

[Host 3]

Okay.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

A little scramble.

[Host 3]

Where do you want it?

[Host 1]

Where do you guys want to scramble, though?

[Host 2]

Is that.

[Host 3]

I can see if we could do it at Michael.

[Host 1]

No, no, I don't want to sully your course. I'm gonna. I'm gonna rip that up.

[Host 3]

We might. Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I want to go to Florida. That's easy. You let me.

[Host 3]

No, but I'll go.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

But getting.

[Host 3]

Getting in and out of Orlando is not.

[Host 2]

I'm not doing the night. I would stay the night, but I would go.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Listen, let me help you all with mco. If you in and out of mco, Orlando Airport, you got to leave early in the morning. Oh, leave early.

[Host 2]

Problem is I'm.

[Host 3]

Harry goes to bed early in the morning.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, that's a problem.

[Host 3]

If you told Harry you were like, you got. You guys are going to take a 6am he's like a red eye. You want me on a red eye?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, Red eyes are the worst.

[Host 3]

Why would I do that?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Oh, man.

[Host 1]

Do you mess with video games at all?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Not really.

[Host 1]

No.

[Host 2]

No, I feel like you enjoy them.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I used to play like Tiger woods golf on the PlayStation.

[Host 2]

Oh, so you're just. You just love golf.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, you do.

[Host 2]

You just. Part of you wish you were a pro golfer instead of basketball.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Not really. Because all that, that's. That's all me, is nobody to blame is.

[Host 2]

It's true.

[Host 3]

That is true. I think those individual sports are. Are such a fucking mess, mentally. Yeah, it's a mess battle. Why all those people get up? Well, because if you screw up, it's your fault entirely. There's never anyone to be around being like, we got you, you know, And a lot of these people are coached by their parents. That just always seems to be the way. And like they often the parents are like also their managers. So if you don't win a tournament as a 16 year old, like, there goes that month's mortgage payment.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

You know, for the house.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Hard.

[Host 3]

Yeah, it's hard.

[Host 1]

And there's probably no one to share the glory with.

[Host 3]

With.

[Host 1]

Like, you probably win something. You're like, oh, I want to share this with somebody. And then someone's celebrating with you and you're like, you didn't do it.

[Host 2]

That's bad. I think that might be the best part of it, that when you win, you're like, it's just me up here. Like, I did this all myself.

[Host 1]

That's how Jaylen Brown feels every single time that he plays in the Celtics. He hates to share the glory. He's like, jason Tatum's here, but we won a championship.

[Host 2]

That's part of him. I want Jaylen Brown off the team.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I think golfers share their share a little bit of. Of. Of. What's the word I'm looking for? Happiness with their caddy.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

Well, the caddy also gets. I think it's 10% of whatever their winnings are. So if you win the Masters and you're on the bag of the winner, that's what, 400 grand? Something like that.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Pretty good week.

[Host 3]

What's the prize for winning the Masters?

[Host 2]

I thought it was 20 million.

[Host 3]

If it is, then I'm way behind. I didn't think it was that much.

[Host 1]

20 million?

[Host 3]

Yeah. Four and a half. It may be that there's total verses. Yeah.

[Host 2]

First place only gets four and a half. One fourth of the prize.

[Host 1]

That's less than 1 4th, brother. That's pushing 1 6.

[Host 2]

I was round.

[Host 3]

But this is where like, yeah, like, look, you, second place gets.

[Host 2]

See, that would drive me nuts.

[Host 3]

Yeah, but listen, the winner.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Get that in the second place. Get that.

[Host 2]

Yeah. That would drive me insane. The winner's only getting $2 million. But nobody second place.

[Host 3]

Look, there's. Nobody remembers the second place winners, really, of the Masters.

[Host 2]

Unless second place guys.

[Host 3]

Somebody chokes. But my point being, you win a green jacket at the Masters, your sponsorship opportunities go.

[Host 1]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

To a completely different level.

[Host 2]

It's definitely true.

[Host 3]

There's like a. Your. Your pedigree as a marketing figure.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'm with you, but I'm with sas, too. Like, the winner should get more.

[Host 2]

I think it should be like, 10 million.

[Host 1]

Winner take off.

[Host 2]

Yeah. No, and then maybe second place gets

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

two because everybody else got to get a little piece somehow. But.

[Host 3]

Well, what's crazy always to me is that, like, guys who are not, you know, fighting for second, or like, let's say you're fighting for third or whatever, and you're in a really good spot, but you're not contending. If you have, like a four, five foot putt on 18, that doesn't matter for the tournament. Missing that could still mean you've now lost 500 grand.

[Host 2]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

Into your pocket.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Like, I'm thinking, like, the last. The top 20 should get the money. Everybody else should just get, like, their expenses. Yeah, yeah.

[Host 2]

You get a free flight home. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Host 3]

If you make the cut, you're in the money. I think that's how it works.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah. I don't think the last 54th place should get. What's that, 54,000 or 51,000.

[Host 2]

That's crazy.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I don't think they should.

[Host 2]

Yeah, all he did is show up.

[Host 1]

Yeah, that's right. I don't even think that. No, none of them should really be getting paid except for the winner. Like, they should have other jobs because, like, you can all. You can already afford to play golf. Like, it can't be that. Yeah, yeah. You're already playing golf.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'm not so sure they all can afford to play golf.

[Host 1]

You don't think. I don't.

[Host 2]

I mean, what. So what's the biggest prize for first place in the whole season?

[Host 3]

It's the Players Championship.

[Host 2]

And what's that?

[Host 3]

I don't know. Gotta look that up, too.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Well, the FedEx cup, they have that too. That's point system. Yeah, it gets like 10. Used to be 10. I don't know what it is now.

[Host 3]

It's a lot. Now all these are going up, by the way, ever. Thanks.

[Host 2]

10 free overnight shippings, live Players Championship

[Host 1]

first prize, immediate shipping anywhere in the world.

[Host 3]

Oh, exactly the same. That's kind of surprising. I thought it was more.

[Host 1]

Shout out to Matt Fitzpatrick, second place, fifth place, almost.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah, that's not right, bro.

[Host 2]

Like, if I'm second place, I'm going up to first place and I'm being like, you barely got more money than me.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah,

[Host 2]

congrats. But you're not really going to get much.

[Host 3]

Yeah, but hold on minute. Look at this. I think. I think Those who got fifth are splitting $925,000. Among.

[Host 2]

So they got the hardest.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

They got boned. No, but presumably 6th is making more money than them.

[Host 3]

I doubt it would be that. If there was a sole person in six, they would get the whole thing. I don't think it would work out that way.

[Host 2]

That would be the worst. The worst setup imaginable.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

If you're a golfer, you better be good.

[Host 2]

Yeah, you better be first.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You got. I mean, you gotta. You gotta at least win once or twice to get some endorsements.

[Host 3]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host 1]

Imagine coming in first place, but you're going back to California.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Oh, yeah.

[Host 3]

We gotta get you in the Internet

[Host 2]

invitation that's getting pulled.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I'd love to do it.

[Host 3]

Oh, my God, you'd be fantastic in that. Do you know about that tournament?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Does a fat hog fart? Do I get my strokes? My handicap?

[Host 3]

No, no, but it's all. I mean, dude, it's all done in a way that should make it not Matter like the. I was way worse than so many people, but on my team was the best player in the tournament.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Oh. So how. How'd you get that guy on your team?

[Host 3]

We just. When it got down to the final 12, we split ourselves into teams of three, and there was a long discussion about how to make that fair.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Why don't you just do handicaps?

[Host 3]

Because, like, did you guys. There were women in the field who don't hit it as far, and you needed to account for, like, wanting on the team to be a long ball hitter and.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

But don't they get to play up a tee?

[Host 3]

We all play from the same tees.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's the way the world should be.

[Host 3]

I agree. Yeah, I kind of agree.

[Host 1]

Why?

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You know, a woman accountant gets paid just as much as a man accountant.

[Host 1]

Do they?

[Host 3]

Sure.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Some places we should all be able

[Host 1]

to swim in the same pool, is what you're saying.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

Wait a second.

[Host 2]

Water fountains.

[Host 3]

I'm glad we've come all the way back to like, gender equality, quality in sports.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 1]

And you have a completely different take on it.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

How was the course, though?

[Host 3]

Spectacular. Payne's Valley. Tiger woods designed it.

[Host 2]

Yeah.

[Host 3]

That whole place, what's it called? Big Cedar is. Is great. There's a number of really cool courses.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Is that. Is that the course with the, like the 19th hole with the island green?

[Host 3]

Yeah. And that's. Yeah. And then there's also a brand new par 3 course that opened up, which was really cool school. That was where we did the semi finals. I came this close to hitting a hole in one for a hundred thousand dollars par.

[Host 2]

Three courses can break you.

[Host 3]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

They can break you mentally because you go into that being like, I'm gonna play unbelievable today. And then you're three tee shots in a row straight into the hazard. Yeah.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Let's go.

[Host 2]

And you're like, now I'm double par immediately.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Golf hard.

[Host 1]

It's golf. That's why we got to get out, bro. That's why we got to get out to Beth Page or some.

[Host 2]

Gotta get out to a black, too.

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[Host 2]

you know what was funny? I did a. I played in a tournament at a par three course when I was in high school, and people found it online, but it doesn't say that it's a par three course. So everyone's like, he actually played pretty well. How bad I did that?

[Host 3]

It.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

The.

[Host 2]

The score is closer to like, par for playing a full 18 at, like, a regular course than it is to par three.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You have a handicap?

[Host 2]

No, I haven't played his handicap at 20.

[Host 3]

I mean, I think if you, like, went to the driving range two days in a row. Yeah, I think you could. You could play off of like 15, 18, something like that. 15 probably. Dude, your short game was better than mine, fundamentally.

[Host 2]

My short game is money.

[Host 3]

He was nipping wedges on. Off tight lies around the green.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

3.

[Host 3]

He grew up.

[Host 2]

Exactly, Exactly.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Yeah.

[Host 2]

Yeah. I used to just chip balls. It's all I would do.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

I can't chip. Save my life.

[Host 2]

I love chipping. Love a flop shot.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Hate it, love it. Give me the bunker all day.

[Host 2]

Yeah, in the bunker. When I get in the bunker, I just pick it up.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

You do. See how it's over? You don't have to hit the ball.

[Host 2]

I do. I don't know how to do it. I only know how to hit a fairway bunker shot.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

That's talent.

[Host 2]

Well, that's that you just hit it normally.

[Host 3]

Mm hmm.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Just that easy.

[Host 2]

Just that easy.

[Host 3]

Thank you for coming on, Jwell.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Thanks for having me.

[Host 3]

I think this was really fun. We appreciate you coming on. And check out hooping and hollering and hopefully we'll get you on the golf course soon.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

What was the new podcast going to be called?

[Host 3]

Boy? Hollering. Hollering boy. Yeah.

[Host 2]

Son of a hollering boy.

[Host 3]

Son of a hollering hoop.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Son of a hollering boy.

[Host 1]

Sounds like a good ass country song.

[Host 2]

I know, right?

[Host 1]

Like a classic country song.

[Host 2]

Flashlight on, old ass.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

All right, we all get the scramble set up. Me and Sass are ready for whenever y' all are.

[Host 2]

Yeah, exactly.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

It doesn't matter.

[Host 2]

We're ready.

[J. Will (Guest NBA Player)]

Whenever you're ready, we're ready.