Boy Story IX | Son of a Boy Dad #414

Summary

Son of a Boy Dad #414 - "Boy Story IX"

Date: June 30, 2026
Hosts/Guests: Lil Sasquatch, Rone, Francis, Nick, KB, Harry, Rudy (Chicago Barstool crew crossover)
Theme: Rudderless and Raw—Life Lessons, Generational Gaps, Drugs, and Dads
Location: Live from Chicago

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Episode Overview

This lively crossover episode brings together the "Son of a Boy Dad" hosts with several regulars from the Chicago Barstool crew. Amidst self-effacing humor and candid storytelling, Sasquatch (Sass) leans on Rone and the gang to riff on coming of age, finding meaning, and the absurdities of adulthood—landing somewhere between therapy, roast session, and hangout.

Topics range from generational anxieties, substance use, and dealing with trauma, to family legacy and the changing landscape of rap and streaming. The hosts blend irreverence with vulnerability, always circling back to the theme of figuring out what it means to be a man in an age where traditions and expectations are up in the air.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Breaking the Ice: Chicago, Cubs, and (Fake) Life Changes

[03:04]–[04:34]

• The crew jokes about moving to Chicago; only Rone and Roan play along while others feign disappointment.
• Light banter turns into plans to attend a Cubs game; takes on Chicago and baseball teams’ struggles set the episode’s playful tone.

2. Board Game Bars and Best Board Game Drugs

[05:21]–[06:31]

• Sass brings up a new board game bar (“Third Space from the Sun”)—Nick laments how moving reduced his gaming.
• Talk derails into what drug pairs best with board games. ("Heroin, that's the answer for any question. What's the best drug to do Blank? Heroin." — Nick, [05:56])
• The group spirals into comedic riffs on substances and optimal states for game night.

3. Kratom, Gas Station Drugs, and America’s Opioid Taste

[06:32]–[08:07]

• A detailed, sardonic chat about kratom and new gas station drugs, including 70 and cava. Regional differences and dangerous legal highs come up.
• Reference to Lamar Odom’s overdose on “gas station boner pills.” ("He was off the rhino, dude." — Nick, [08:07])
• Jokes highlight how normalized and accessible questionable substances have become.

4. Drug Narratives: The Hilarious and the Harrowing

[09:19]–[12:15]

• Stories of reformed addicts who make the lifestyle sound exciting instead of tragic: “You're just a loser and you're still on drugs the way you’re telling these stories.” — Harry, [09:52]
• Addiction narrative satirized: “My life was a constant party.” — Sass, [09:57]
• Examples of hiding alcohol (in eggs, the sink) elicit both horror and admiration for creative addiction workarounds.

5. Experiencing and Processing MDMA: Ego, Depression, and Deeper Thoughts

[11:57]–[15:44]

• Harry shares his first MDMA experience in years, describing “ego ascension” and profound comedown (“I envied my perceivers… I wished I could see myself instead of these dudes.” — Harry, [12:13]).
• The aftermath: surreal “out of body” sadness, imagining himself as a baby in his own lap (serotonin crash, existential dread).
• Group humorously unpacks his story, wavering between mockery and empathy.

6. Childhood Trauma, Leashes, and Dark Memories

[17:25]–[19:48]

• Nick describes being put on a leash as a child after attempted kidnapping, and a literal home bombing due to his dad’s job—boomerangs between tragedy and farce. ("My leash was when I was in seventh grade… It was pastel blue and probably about 4ft." — Nick, [18:07])
• Laughter offsets heavy stories, questioning how to process and retell personal trauma.

7. Nostalgia for Childhood & Parental Bonds

[19:53]–[21:09]

• Francis shares a poignant childhood memory with his mom (“I can smell it, I can see it, I can feel my mom helping me…” — Francis, [20:00]), sparking a group discussion on aging, the passage of time, and the melancholy beauty of memory.
• Fear of time speeding up and death becomes a semi-serious recurring motif, leavened with jokes about taking kratom for relief.

8. Sobriety, Oxys, and Ball-Breaking

[22:44]–[23:48]

• Sass admits to considering oxy for back pain; Rone teases him and the conversation devolves into playful accusations around addiction and personal limitations.
• They dig into where friendly ball-busting ends and serious issues begin.

9. Food Aversion, Restaurant Adventures, and Staff Dynamics

[24:25]–[34:59]

• Recollections of a high-end dinner where some skip desserts for candy (nerds gummy clusters > gourmet pie); the awkwardness of dress codes, Mook’s notorious lazy style, and unique restaurant staff (career waiters, handmade Wagyu steak presentations).
• A study in contrasting “refined” and “juvenile” tastes, with everyone poking fun at one another’s preferences.

10. Rap, Streaming, and the Future of the Genre

[40:09]–[51:10]

• Spirited talk about favorite rappers (Nick’s dad’s Black Thought fandom, DaBaby’s skills, and physical prowess, etc.).
• Reflection on "extinction" of traditional rappers in favor of streaming and online personalities ("Rappers are gonna be extinct within, like, 20 years... Not at the right [replacement] rate." — Sass, [50:39]).
• DaBaby’s controversies, "massive penis," and magnetism are recurring comedic refrains.

11. Generational Drift, TikTok Accents, and The Cycle of Cool

[55:58]–[59:56]

• Jokes about Gen Alpha, washed-up Gen Z, and the “rise of aspirational nonchalance" among young people—a kind of performative indifference and cross-cultural speech patterns.
• Roan admits he's aged out of relating to 16–19 year olds, wondering if he’ll ever be relevant to younger generations again.

12. Concert Anxieties, Aging, and Fashion Cycles

[64:09]–[66:27]

• Roan and others voice growing anxiety at concerts/crowds—fear of not being able to escape; references to Woodstock 99 and Astroworld only reinforce this avoidance.
• Closing thoughts on cyclical nature of “cool” in fashion, the resurrection of old men’s style, and the broad futility of generational relevance.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Heroin, that’s the answer for any question. What’s the best drug to do Blank? Heroin.” — Nick, [05:56]
• “You’re just a loser and you’re still on drugs the way you’re telling these stories.” — Harry, [09:52]
• “My leash was when I was in seventh grade… It was pastel blue and probably about 4ft.” — Nick, [18:07], on experiencing childhood trauma and parental overprotection.
• “I can smell it, I can see it, I can feel my mom helping me…” — Francis, [20:00], recalling a bittersweet childhood memory.
• “Rappers are gonna be extinct within, like, 20 years… Not at the right [replacement] rate.” — Sass, [50:39]
• “Everyone looks like they just came off of a brain freeze.” — Harry, [56:39], on Gen Alpha
• “There’s like, also old people in, like, nursing homes and moomoos and, like, who like themselves. But I wonder if that will be iconic when we’re in hospital gowns ourselves.” — Sass, [61:37]

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Segment Timestamps

• [03:04] — Chicago intro, Cubs game plans
• [05:21] — Board game bars and drugs tangent
• [06:32] — Kratom, gas station highs, Lamar Odom story
• [11:57] — MDMA reflections, ego and crash
• [17:25] — Childhood trauma, leashes, and the bomb
• [19:53] — Nostalgia, aging, mortality
• [22:44] — Sobriety and friendly roasting on addiction
• [24:25] — Food, restaurant culture, waiter stories
• [40:09] — Rap debates, DaBaby, Lil Baby, and streaming era
• [55:58] — Generational divides and TikTokified speech
• [64:09] — Concert fears and evolving idea of "cool"
• [61:43] — Fashion cycles and admiration for old men’s style

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Tone & Style

• The conversation is loose, comedic, equal parts self-deprecating and deeply honest.
• Frequent meta-humor—hosts roast each other, reflect on their own insecurities, and question their relevance.
• The group is quick to detour into bit territory, with riffs often turning dark or absurd before boomeranging back to sincerity.
• Heavy topics (trauma, addiction, mortality) handled through humor and camaraderie.

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Final Thoughts

Boy Story IX captures the spirit of "Son of a Boy Dad": a group of friends poking holes in the myths of adulthood as they careen towards it, armed with sharp jokes, soft insights, and an unbreakable code of ball-busting love. Engaging for listeners of any age grappling with what it means to “grow up” now—or just looking for a good, rambling laugh.

Transcript

[Sass]

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[Nick]

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[Roan]

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[Sass]

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[Roan]

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[Francis]

Whenever.

[Roan]

All right.

[Host (Ron)]

All righty. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy dad podcast. Today it's June 16th, and we are here live from Chicago with KB, Nick and Rudy.

[Harry]

Thanks.

[Host (Ron)]

How we doing, fellows?

[Nick]

Really good. Really good. Thank you for having us.

[Francis]

Of course.

[Host (Ron)]

Of course.

[Sass]

Glad as we always start when. When we have these crossover episodes. KB tells us a story.

[Host (Ron)]

Kb, you had a story.

[Roan]

Was there a story coming?

[Harry]

Is there a story?

[Sass]

You said you're gonna make it into a story.

[Harry]

What did I say?

[Nick]

I forget.

[Host (Ron)]

I forget as well.

[Sass]

I'm usually pretty good at remembering, and I also forget.

[Roan]

Well, while you're thinking about that story, I think this would be the right time to tell the world that we have decided we're all moving to Chicago.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Whoa.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

I don't know about that. Cheers to us.

[Roan]

How about that?

[Nick]

This is big.

[Sass]

I thought that they'd be more excited, honestly. Francis.

[Nick]

Oh, I knew this was coming.

[Sass]

Super jacked up about this.

[Host (Ron)]

Chicago's nice, but I don't know if I'm gonna move.

[Roan]

Oh, so it's just me and Rome then?

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

I think it's just gonna be you guys.

[Roan]

And that will be the end of O.

[Host (Ron)]

And I'll be remote.

[Sass]

Will you tend to my kids? Will you tend to my seeds?

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, definitely. I can stop by when needed.

[Nick]

We're going Cats when needed. You're going to be there all the time.

[Sass]

You can't leave out milk for them. Can't leave out a bowl of milk

[Nick]

for them to laugh.

[Sass]

They don't have rough tongues.

[Nick]

There's probably one person that believed that announcement.

[Francis]

Now they're just livid.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I wonder.

[Sass]

Crest fallen. We are going to the Cubs game tonight. The Cubes. We are big.

[Host (Ron)]

The Chicago Cubes.

[Nick]

Nice.

[Host (Ron)]

Can't wait.

[Nick]

Who they playing?

[Sass]

Rockies.

[Host (Ron)]

The Rockies.

[Francis]

Dude, love the Rockies, man.

[Sass]

Yes.

[Host (Ron)]

Get their ass kicked tonight.

[Francis]

Yeah. Watching them all year. Big fan.

[Roan]

But.

[Francis]

Yeah. Aren't they, like, the worst team that's ever existed?

[Nick]

The Rockies.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Cubs are bad right now, too.

[Host (Ron)]

I think the Red Sox are really bad right now.

[Nick]

Red Sox are bad, too.

[Francis]

I did that year that they were actually good, though I did get to go to a World Series game that was pretty sick. Was like the Matt Holiday year when he slid into first against San Diego.

[Nick]

I've never been to a meaningful game.

[Francis]

They got their pumped by the Red Sox, but it was still cool.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. For what? Baseball or just in general?

[Nick]

In general. I don't think there's a new board

[Sass]

game facility that opened actually very close to your apartment. It's called Third Space from the Sun. Nice. And I think that you. I think that you'd like it to have.

[Stella Blue Coffee Announcer]

Is it just.

[Nick]

You play board games there? It's a board game bar.

[Sass]

It's like a. Not. It's not a bar at all. It's just board games.

[Nick]

I like that.

[Roan]

It's pure.

[Sass]

I think that you'd love it.

[Nick]

Dude, my board gaming's gone down a ton since I've moved here.

[Host (Ron)]

That's what this city will do to you.

[Nick]

I know.

[Host (Ron)]

Strip of all your joy.

[Harry]

Right?

[Nick]

Man, I'm just a husk.

[Francis]

What would be the best drug to do with board games?

[Host (Ron)]

Probably heroin.

[Nick]

I mean, that's the. That's the answer for any question. What's the best drug to do Blank? Heroin.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Harry]

The one that I'm bored as a pillow.

[Nick]

Yeah. And it's like.

[Harry]

It's like tempur.

[Nick]

Yeah, dude. I'll take the drug that makes it feel like you're orgasming constantly under a warm blanket.

[Francis]

That makes it.

[Nick]

Yeah, that'll improve anything.

[Francis]

The one that makes being homeless tolerable.

[Nick]

Yeah, dude.

[Roan]

Voluntary.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Choice.

[Nick]

House with no heroin or streets with heroin. It's unanimous.

[Sass]

I mean, Kratom is basically the same thing.

[Game Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. Are you still ripping the Kratom? Are you off it?

[Harry]

No, because it. It did not work for me, and I reasoned that some people have an opioid brain.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Harry]

Because I've tried oxy's, too, in the past, and I was like, this sucks.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Harry]

But some. And then, like, the people I was with loved it.

[Host (Ron)]

Really? And they're like, the Kratom.

[Harry]

They're like yoxies. They were like, I like this a little too much. Really. The Krato, The Pittsburgh boys.

[Host (Ron)]

Yep.

[Nick]

Damn. Yeah, dude. Pittsburgh, their predisposition. They're like.

[Harry]

It's. I think it is the thing. I think it's, like, a regional thing.

[Nick]

I don't know what it is or if it's the diet or something.

[Harry]

Something. Yeah, they love it in the hills.

[Sass]

Yeah, it's the hills, too.

[Host (Ron)]

I think it's so crazy that they just sell that just everywhere.

[Nick]

Kratom.

[Harry]

Oh, they're selling, like, new at gas stations.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Like, I want to, like, get a lawsuit.

[Host (Ron)]

There's some. What is there? There's some new drug that they're selling at gas stations. What's it called?

[Harry]

It's like, 70.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Game Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Harry]

And people are, like, saying it's. That's the. The most devastating withdrawals. Yeah, it's just like kratom mixed with something else.

[Sass]

Cava. Cava.

[Host (Ron)]

It's like a new, stronger Kratom, but it's. Apparently, it's really bad.

[Roan]

Did you guys watch the Lamar Odom Untold?

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, it was great.

[Roan]

And how when he. When he. When they found him unconscious at the Bunny Ranch in. Outside of Vegas, they, like, tested his blood, and he had taken, like, 14 times the recommended dose of gas station. Bonus.

[Nick]

Yeah, he was off the rhino, dude.

[Host (Ron)]

But he had, like, six heart attacks. Yeah.

[Francis]

Like the size of a regular human.

[Host (Ron)]

True.

[Nick]

Maybe that was his logic.

[Francis]

That's a lot of dick to keep.

[Nick]

But, dude, like, it's true. Those ladies at the Bunny Ranch are so lucky that he died for a second because he would have them, so

[Host (Ron)]

they were probably thrilled.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Oh, Lamar's dad.

[Sass]

Oh, he's back.

[Harry]

He's.

[Nick]

Oh, thank God.

[Francis]

They bring out the paddles and they're

[Nick]

like, no, no, no, no. Please wait. Think about what you're doing.

[Host (Ron)]

That documentary is pretty nuts. I didn't realize all of, like, the Kardashian stuff as well. Like, I didn't know any of that.

[Roan]

It makes Courtney look good.

[Host (Ron)]

It makes her look very good. I mean, she was, like, 19, like, fully just taking care of this grown man.

[Roan]

I know. Who's cheating on her relentlessly, and she's, like, monitoring who can actually come in and out of the hospital room to.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Sort of for publicity's sake. Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Go to the hotel rooms and, like, clean up.

[Roan]

Yeah. Covering his gigantic track.

[Host (Ron)]

Massive. He was, like, freebasing coke or whatever. Like, she said she would come in there, be, like tinfoil everywhere. Like, he was, like, a real drug addict.

[Roan]

Oh, yeah, Big time.

[Harry]

You ever see the guys who, like, they're like, they preach, like, a sober lifestyle, but they talk about how they're a reformed coke addict and all of their stories make their coke experience sound awesome as hell.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. Yeah, dude.

[Harry]

I was. I was. All of my secretaries, I would wake up, 99 apples, three lines of coke, go to work, three of my co workers, do more coke in the bathroom, drink more liquor in the bathroom, go home a supermodel. It's like, no, you didn't.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Harry]

You're just a loser and you're still on drugs the way that you're telling these stories.

[Sass]

My life was a constant party.

[Host (Ron)]

That is how they describe it. It's never like they hit a devastating low. It's just like the highs were too high.

[Nick]

No. Their rock bottom is tired of y.

[Harry]

I literally had to do coke around the clock and just so I could get my dick hard. And 22 year old co workers non stop and he's like tweaking while he's telling the story. It's one specific guy I'm thinking of.

[Sass]

There's a couple guys that I've seen like that because there's the one guy who I think is in. Maybe he's tweaking or maybe he's in withdrawal. Like he is like was maybe an alcoholic or something. But he tells the stories and the story seems so insane. It's all Wolf of Wall Street.

[Host (Ron)]

Oh, I thought you were gonna talking about the dude that does the videos where he's like reenacting his alcoholism.

[Nick]

Love that guy that he like gives himself the shake. Yeah, it's like him sneaking it into like his eggs.

[Host (Ron)]

It was like. Yeah, it's like, like an orange peel.

[Sass]

Yes.

[Nick]

Yeah, he's sink and it'll be like do like the smug point at the captions like guess where I snuck the booze. They shows his plate and he like lifts an egg and it's like a fucking shooter under the fucking sunny side up.

[Sass]

It was in this, it was in the sink. It was like he would. The night before he would pour alcohol into cups.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, in the sink.

[Sass]

So when he would go to the sink in the morning and like just drink something out of the cup, there would be like boot in there to

[Host (Ron)]

get rid of the shakes.

[Roan]

That's bad.

[Sass]

I was going to say it was genius.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Really smart.

[Sass]

Oh, I think he had a good.

[Host (Ron)]

He had another 10 years in him.

[Sass]

Yes.

[Nick]

Dude, you could tell with his brain. Barry Sanders, he was still sharp as a. Keep drinking a little. You still have so many good ideas.

[Harry]

So skilled. Don't waste this.

[Host (Ron)]

What are you going to do with all these hiding spots? It's going to let him go to waste.

[Nick]

Being that addicted to booze that. Where you only see things as hiding spots for booze.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, that's got to be tough.

[Sass]

Just amputating a leg. Being like I could fit so much bougie.

[Nick]

Oh my God.

[Host (Ron)]

Think of all the shots that could fit in there.

[Roan]

Kyle, what's. What's your sobriety like right now? What's your.

[Harry]

I just went to a Rufus to soul concert and. And did MDMA for the first time in several years and experienced what I would call an ego ascension.

[Nick]

Yeah, you've been a dick since that concert.

[Harry]

I was, I cannot lie. I was crowd completely ass consumed by my own identity. I was like envying my perceivers I was like. I was, like, turning around to face, like, the back of the audience. I legitimately thought people were snapping photos of me. I felt like a vulture. Headline. Bower, 33, spotted with his fiance moving unnaturally gracefully. Dude. I felt like, like the man. I felt like all eyes were on me. And I. And I was, like, taking it all in. I legitimately thought fans were, like. It was pitch black. And I was like. They were like. I was, like, posing for dudes.

[Roan]

Rufus du Sol plays background music at Kyle Bower appears.

[Harry]

I was like, I wish I could see myself instead of these dudes, instead of Tyrone Lundquist. John, you were jealous of everybody. I was, yeah. I envied my perceivers. I was like, holy, this is good. And then I paid the man. Disastrous. Disastrous inverse of a come down.

[Roan]

Oh, really?

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

You had.

[Roan]

What's that called? The. The. The post day Molly. Like, what is that called? There's a name for that.

[Harry]

A come down.

[Roan]

I don't know. I thought there was like, the day after, like, the hangover from doing Molly or whatever.

[Harry]

Well, I had that.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Harry]

I was like, panicking. I have to do my chores. So I started booking flights. A serotonin death, that's a serotonin syndrome is like this rare thing that people try to warn you about, but, like, no one really gets. You have to really abuse it.

[Host (Ron)]

That's what my roommate in college told me he took. He took Molly every day for three months.

[Roan]

Oh.

[Harry]

You always hear stories. It's not addictive, but you take it for the first time. It's so good that you, like, you want to keep doing it.

[Nick]

I'm. I'm of the fact if something feels that good, it's probably addictive.

[Harry]

It's worse than addiction.

[Sass]

Could you have taken the hair of the dog of Molly and had, like, a little taste of it the next day to, like, abate that feeling Or. Or like, what do they mean?

[Harry]

But you're just delaying the. The debt that you'll pay.

[Sass]

So you'll pay the debt.

[Host (Ron)]

You're paying the debt one way or another.

[Harry]

Tremendously sad that sounds. I was booking. Is it like, what.

[Host (Ron)]

I've never done it, so is it like when you wake up the next morning, like, are you still like, wow, last night was fun, as. Are you more so just like.

[Harry]

No, it's. There's like an absence in your brain. Like, you can feel the physical void. Like, which is ironic. Yeah. But I was booking flights and I forgot to set the. The birth year correctly to 1993.

[Roan]

Oh.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

So I left it at 2026 and I got a notification from United. It was like, passenger Kyle Bauer is under 2 years old. Would you like to select the infant in seat option? Infant in lap option for him? And I got tremendously sad picturing two year old me or like baby me in lap. And I. And I. Visual. It was so vivid. Like I could see my baby self in my own lap. And I was like, almost like I wanted it to start crying so I could comfort it, but it. It was just like emotionally paralyzed. Like Casey Affleck in Manchester by the Sea and just looked at me with like the saddest eyes.

[Roan]

I can't. It was like, I can't beat it.

[Harry]

I know you'll never be able to raise me to be anything more than just a slightly different version of yourself.

[Nick]

Dude, that sounds like a pretty rough morning.

[Host (Ron)]

This is a crazy 48 hours. I mean, that's like the ultimate high and low of all time.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Also strange double outer body sort of experiences.

[Harry]

The way it said passenger Kyle Bauer is under 2 years old freaked me out.

[Roan]

It's a wake up call for sure.

[Sass]

Passenger. Passenger is a deep word.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, yeah, that would be. But it didn't happen. Like that was just all in your head.

[Sass]

Right.

[Host (Ron)]

But wouldn't you be able to, like,

[Sass]

this isn't like, this is.

[Host (Ron)]

Were you not able. Are you not able to like pull yourself?

[Francis]

It's not like a Tom Hanks movie where he gets like transformed into like some fantasy.

[Nick]

Wait, Kyle, you were joking, right?

[Sass]

This definitely didn't happen.

[Host (Ron)]

Wouldn't you be able to be like, well, I'm not too. I'm definitely not under two.

[Harry]

I wasn't completely consumed by that.

[Host (Ron)]

Got it. Got it.

[Harry]

It was more of a thought. Like I never really pictured myself as a baby.

[Nick]

I don't like looking at baby pictures of me.

[Sass]

Feels like it's someone else.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Really? I feel like I'm just like, that's me as a child.

[Roan]

There's a. There's a specific memory from my childhood that if I allow myself to like access it, it brings me to deep sadness and it's a happy memory.

[Sass]

I'd like.

[Harry]

I get those too.

[Nick]

Yeah, I find myself chasing those a little bit.

[Game Promo Announcer]

Really?

[Nick]

Why? Yeah, I've been talking to my mom more of asking about just stories and it makes me sad every time, but I keep doing it.

[Host (Ron)]

We were talking about yesterday. We had. We had big cat on the podcast and he was talking about leash kids. Oh, yeah, it was that Nick had a leash teen.

[Nick]

That was the worst that Was. That was one of the worst days of my life.

[Host (Ron)]

Was the leash because you got lost or was it after you got lost?

[Sass]

It was a loss. He was kidnapped.

[Nick]

No, I was. Attempted to be kidnapped. Somebody tried to pull me out of a shopping cart when I was a kid and that up my mom. And then somebody bombed our house when I was a kid.

[Harry]

Bomb?

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Nick]

My dad was the city manager and fired somebody and he bombed our. He built a bomb and like blew up our garage door and it was right above my room. My mom was always a helicopter mom after that. But my leash was when I was in seventh grade, which I didn't like.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, I don't think I need. So you need a big light.

[Francis]

A serious leash.

[Nick]

It was. It was.

[Francis]

I need like a leash for like a Doberman.

[Nick]

It was wrist arrest. It was like. It was like. It was for adults. No, it was like. It was like pastel blue and it was probably about 4ft.

[Host (Ron)]

Not terrible, but still not. Not great.

[Nick]

I mean, I had like, pubes.

[Sass]

Yeah, you were a teen.

[Game Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

But you were also almost taken and blown up. So I do understand.

[Nick]

Yeah. My mom has the right to be.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. You were like Harry Potter as a child a lot.

[Nick]

Very, very. Yes.

[Host (Ron)]

I mean, we're coming for you.

[Francis]

Ain't going to stop a bomb.

[Roan]

No.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, that's true.

[Francis]

You get two for one then.

[Nick]

Yeah, you're right. It's a perfect person to bomb.

[Harry]

You were late on this story, telling it.

[Nick]

I know.

[Harry]

It's extremely traumatic getting bombed.

[Sass]

No one gets bombed. Where are you from? Lebanon.

[Nick]

Yeah, right.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick]

No, it was like. It was like a homemade kind of thing this guy did up our garage door. I remember.

[Sass]

Was it a good bomber? It sounds like kind of a trash.

[Nick]

It was just loud. Just loud.

[Host (Ron)]

A little flashbang loud ass. I mean, I'd imagine.

[Nick]

And that guy took a step back. I said, he came back and he's put a bunch of eggs in our ac, which is like such a step back from a bomb.

[Sass]

He probably was like, I'm not prepared for bomb.

[Francis]

Yeah, he felt bad. He went back to what he knows best.

[Nick]

Oh, I almost killed that baby. Let's make their house stink.

[Sass]

Putting fish in the dunks

[Nick]

might have been a little mom.

[Harry]

Oh,

[Francis]

this isn't me.

[Host (Ron)]

He probably saw the bomb barely get through the garage door and was like, yeah, I don't. I don't know what I'm doing.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sass]

He's like, I tried my hardest on that.

[Nick]

Maybe I am a failure.

[Host (Ron)]

Maybe I should have been fired.

[Sass]

What was your super Happy memory, Francis. That brings you to tears. I'd like to cry.

[Host (Ron)]

Oh, yeah.

[Roan]

Oh, well, there was an assignment that we had, I remember, in school, which was to bring in four leaves from four different species of tree. And it was in the fall, and obviously in New England we have really beautiful foliage. And I remember walking up to this field with my mom and we had these baskets and we were collecting different leaves and I can smell it, I can see it. I can feel the temperature. I can feel my mom helping me. And when I think about that memory, it makes me feel very old and that the passage of time is happening far too quickly.

[Nick]

Yeah, that's been. The speed of time has been really the first thing I think about every morning for like the past year is me dying.

[Sass]

Oh, hate it.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah, I get it before bed.

[Host (Ron)]

Have you tried Kratom?

[Nick]

I need. I need some cradle. I need some creative dude.

[Host (Ron)]

If I bring some life back into you. Wake up in the morning, don't think about a thing. Just, where's the crate? I'm at.

[Roan]

I don't think about me dying. I think about my parents dying. Yeah, that's far. That's far sadder. Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

What about you dying? Let's change topics.

[Nick]

Dude, I'm so glad this is your episode.

[Harry]

There needs to be like a social media page that gives updates of like, aging notable people who are doing very well, health wise.

[Sass]

Yeah. Because all you hear about is like this 76 year old celebrity who died.

[Harry]

Yeah. Like Rob Riggle. It is once again cancer free.

[Sass]

Yeah. Rob Wriggles. Yeah.

[Roan]

Gene Hackman's corpse found riddled with.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Rotting dog food because his dogs were passing away because no one was feeding them. Right. That whole story was like the most.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I don't think I know this Gene Hackman, the actor. Yeah, he. His. He and his. I think his wife were found. Passed away. But like, well, after they had passed away, their dogs had also died because nobody fed them.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. Yeah, I remember hearing about that. It's crazy.

[Roan]

Yeah. And he was. He had. Had dementia and like had no idea what was going, you know.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Roan]

It's pretty brutal. Bad stuff going on there.

[Host (Ron)]

Not a good situation.

[Francis]

But yeah, we need more positive headlines like, Ron has begun stretching.

[Nick]

That's nice.

[Host (Ron)]

Ron's been stretching. Yeah.

[Roan]

But I don't know what.

[Host (Ron)]

What it's doing necessarily, but it's making

[Sass]

my back feel better.

[Host (Ron)]

We appreciate you going through it.

[Nick]

You were, you had a few years of just in pain, terrible back.

[Sass]

I was gonna, I was gonna go to oxycontin Whoa.

[Host (Ron)]

The hell's wrong with you?

[Sass]

It feels so good.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Rowan's a big opioid guy.

[Nick]

That's a bold claim.

[Sass]

I'd like to be, but I just know I don't have an addictive personality.

[Host (Ron)]

So is that why you smoked weed every day for a decade?

[Nick]

Damn. Sass for the pedestal.

[Host (Ron)]

Golly.

[Nick]

Oh, my God. Do you guys like each other?

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, of course. We're just riffing.

[Sass]

Breaking my balls.

[Host (Ron)]

Can raz on oxy break. Can raz about oxy addiction.

[Sass]

Break my balls up a little bit.

[Host (Ron)]

No, that was unnecessary.

[Roan]

It's.

[Host (Ron)]

I just like to keep my boys honest, truthful.

[Sass]

You have to, and I love it. And you're. And that's coming from an addict.

[Host (Ron)]

Oh, come on, now.

[Sass]

That's why you had to quit drinking, because you found yourself.

[Host (Ron)]

That is true.

[Nick]

Did you consider yourself an alcoholic Sass?

[Host (Ron)]

No. Like, I don't. I didn't consider myself as, like, you know, like, I can't put down the bottle or anything like that, but I just knew, like, I can't drink and not get hammered.

[Nick]

But you would go out and have, like, six Coors lights.

[Host (Ron)]

No, I'll go out and have, like.

[Francis]

I feel like the majority you were talking about was, like, you just couldn't handle the pooping anymore.

[Game Promo Announcer]

It was.

[Host (Ron)]

All the pooping definitely was a factor. That's kind of a factor in everything.

[Nick]

Have you been to a gastro?

[Host (Ron)]

No. Yeah. But I have been eating a lot more fiber, and it's been helping a lot, so that's good.

[Nick]

Oh, I have some husk upstairs in the studio if you want to get some of that. Oh, my God.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, it's been helping me a lot.

[Sass]

Dude, you wouldn't even touch the veg that we got last night. You barely had any of the veg

[Host (Ron)]

because there was, like, a bowl of green mud on the bottom of it.

[Roan]

That was a sauce.

[Sass]

Sauce.

[Harry]

Delicious.

[Nick]

Was it pesto?

[Game Promo Announcer]

Beautiful.

[Harry]

Why would they put them on it?

[Host (Ron)]

I ate everything. Everything. I. To be honest, most of the stuff that we ate was delicious, was really good, but so it wasn't the most visually appealing, you know? Like, you'd be like, I'm not really sure what this is.

[Roan]

Harry. Harry wouldn't have an either of the desserts. We had a beautiful slice of cheesecake and this sort of strawberry rhubarb meringue situation. He's like, yeah, I'm good. Then he went home and ate the gummy bears from the mini bar.

[Host (Ron)]

What's wrong with that? I said. I literally said I was gonna do that. While we were there, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna have the gum. I'm gonna have the candy.

[Francis]

But why?

[Host (Ron)]

You said, you're gonna have candy.

[Francis]

I said, yes, but why are you skipping. Why are you skipping the gourmet dessert?

[Harry]

Yeah, I don't really.

[Host (Ron)]

That stuff doesn't really do it for me.

[Sass]

Sass.

[Nick]

I'm the same way.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Nick]

I would rather have nerds gummy clusters than a piece of pie.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, I would rather them bring out a tray of candy.

[Roan]

To Harry's credit, he. He was a little bit more adventurous with his eating last night. In fact, Ron and I both ordered cocktails, and Harry tried a little sip of both of them.

[Sass]

And then, like, he had one, and we had to, like, pull it away from him.

[Game Promo Announcer]

The whole.

[Host (Ron)]

They were. I was. She was like in the Exorcist. I was levitating above the booth.

[Nick]

How did it taste?

[Roan]

Good.

[Host (Ron)]

They were both very tasty.

[Roan]

Yeah, but you didn't like. You liked. You didn't like yours. Mine.

[Host (Ron)]

I like Roan's more.

[Roan]

Yeah, but you said you didn't like Mezcal. And he.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, and he said it was tequila.

[Roan]

Trojan horsed it in there for you.

[Host (Ron)]

But, I mean, I had them. We're talking micro sip.

[Sass]

What's a micro sip? Isn't a sip

[Francis]

micro chug not what

[Host (Ron)]

you boys are drinking.

[Roan]

He wet his lips and then licked them.

[Nick]

Exactly.

[Roan]

Yeah. You had a bigger sip of mine. You trusted mine more.

[Sass]

I saw the white. I don't remember.

[Host (Ron)]

I don't. I don't think so now. I think it was pretty equal sips.

[Roan]

I think you have. You did trust mine, though.

[Host (Ron)]

I don't think so. I think I trusted them both. I didn't think you guys drugged them.

[Roan]

I saw the movement of your Adam's apple with mine.

[Sass]

Okay, guys, let's talk about helm boots. You see these boots right in front of us?

[Roan]

Listen to me. Those are unbelievable.

[Sass]

Look at these loafers.

[Roan]

I've tried these on. These are so good for summer, and they meld to your foot like a sock.

[Sass]

And, I mean, these are born in Austin, Texas. But all you have to do is take a look at the new Montauk shoe by Helm boots. And these are the ones. We've been wearing these all around. It's like a loafer meets a boat shoe.

[Roan]

Bingo.

[Sass]

What they're calling it. And that makes perfect sense. The texture is versatile. The look is great. It's a tan suede, has really nice stitching, white sole. You can see them@helm boots.com. you can see them if you're watching the. Or if you're watching the pod right now. You see him right in front. Oh, Sass. Look at those numbers.

[Roan]

Like a nice Chuck kind of.

[Sass]

Yeah, that's beautiful. Oh, my God.

[Roan]

Those are sick. You know, Falls right around the corner, too. Let's not. Let's not get it twisted.

[Sass]

Yeah. And they're out of Texas. They make handcrafted boots and shoes. And you can tell the craftsmanship that went into this pair that Sass is holding up. Hold that up. Unbelievable. That. That is so me there.

[Roan]

That is you.

[Sass]

They're known for their 100 day free worn in returns as well. You can wear these things for months to make sure that you like them. And here's where we drop the hammer. We have the deepest discount that Helm has ever offered. Literally.

[Harry]

Whoa.

[Roan]

I'm afraid of what number you're about to see.

[Sass]

The deepest discount is insane. They told us they've never gone this deep. And it is to create an irresistible offer for guys to try them for the first time and experience Helms quality for yourself. $100 off. Any pair of home boots or shoes. A hundred dollars off is insane. You can get the Montauk for just $98. Insane. For this quality. Use code BOYDAD100 only@helm boots.com limited to one use per customer while supplies last. Last past. And see if they have your size now. Helm boots. Check them out. Great deal. Did you go. Did you get a workout in this morning?

[Roan]

No, I will later.

[Sass]

Yeah, we got to later on before the Cubs game.

[Roan]

Yeah, I hit it hard yesterday.

[Harry]

Yeah, I can. And I can tell you guys all look like. Like that you've evolved into dudes like, I wouldn't step to.

[Nick]

No, no chance.

[Harry]

You were never, like, made presenting. But I don't. It's the way you look, dress and, like, carry yourself. I'm like, like, these guys in the past, I would have been like, oh, I might go chill with those guys. See what they're about now. It's like, I wouldn't step to you guys.

[Nick]

Genuinely intimidated by you three.

[Roan]

Yeah, come on.

[Harry]

No Sass included now.

[Host (Ron)]

That's crazy.

[Nick]

Francis, do you know, like, before I text you, I, like, write it out, Pen and paper. I'm like, I can't this up.

[Roan]

Long hand.

[Nick]

I cannot.

[Roan]

We had such a nice text exchange a few days ago.

[Nick]

It was nice. And guess what? There's, like, crumpled paper in my garbage where you could reread the.

[Roan]

God, that's the silliest dude.

[Nick]

I use, like, dip Pen. I changed nibs for you, Francis.

[Sass]

Yeah, well, step two, like, brawl. Are you talking about brawling?

[Harry]

Just like approach, like.

[Sass]

Yeah, because you said chill with at first, but then step. I think of step two being like.

[Harry]

No, not. Not like if there was an open

[Nick]

seat at the bar and you guys

[Harry]

were there, I would.

[Nick]

I would stand.

[Harry]

Yeah. I wouldn't want to encroach upon your session.

[Roan]

No way.

[Sass]

We definitely overlapped at dinner last night though. And people were there. It is. People were at us. People were side eyeing us.

[Harry]

I don't like that.

[Sass]

Were they? Yeah. So you didn't even notice?

[Host (Ron)]

No, I was paying attention. I mean, everyone in there was a thousand years old. No wonder they were side eyeing. We was like. Francis was like, wear pants. It's a nice place. It was the nicest place I've. I wore this exact outfit. It was the nicest place I've ever been. And we were the only ones in there without suits on.

[Nick]

You guys live in New York City?

[Host (Ron)]

I didn't know we were going to the. I don't even know what it was, to be honest. I can't describe it.

[Roan]

I didn't know how nice it was until I got there.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Because I. I just thought it was like a steak house.

[Host (Ron)]

Mook was gonna come and they would have removed him.

[Roan]

Oh, it was so good that Mook didn't come.

[Harry]

He would have been moved by machinery, a claw machine.

[Nick]

Pretty advanced tech. We go out to dinner with Mook and he just.

[Game Promo Announcer]

Just.

[Sass]

It's.

[Nick]

It's disgusting. He'll wear. He like, you know the average price of an outfit. Like, think of it.

[Game Promo Announcer]

His.

[Nick]

His has. Is free. Every time.

[Francis]

It's negative. I think they pay him.

[Host (Ron)]

He's in low cash mode.

[Roan]

His clothing is.

[Harry]

Rolls up to Bavettes and like.

[Nick]

Yeah, we went to the vets.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Game Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I buy him clothes too. I bought him a really nice shirt.

[Harry]

Yeah, he has it.

[Roan]

It good.

[Host (Ron)]

He brings it out. He wears it out.

[Nick]

No, he wears it. Eagles hoodie.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Yeah. He like.

[Sass]

What was his excuse that he couldn't. Why couldn't he come?

[Host (Ron)]

Well, he called me and he was still at the office and he was doing. And then I was like. And then he said he didn't have pants.

[Sass]

He said, I don't have pants at the office.

[Roan]

Yeah, I mean, look, they. I walked in and I was like, we're just gonna be three now, not four. Because one of our four didn't have the right clothes. And they were like, oh, we don't have a dress code. And I Was like. Like, trust me, if you'd seen this guy, you would have not let him in. Like, he would have needed an adult high chair.

[Host (Ron)]

He has.

[Sass]

He has silky basketball shorts that are somehow stiff from come. Silky stiff shorts, dude.

[Nick]

Some of. Some of his fits. Like, I would, like, be afraid to be seen at the gas station

[Sass]

alone at home, dude.

[Nick]

So he rings my doorbell and change.

[Sass]

Was great, though. They. The. The waiter was. He was just like, a bit.

[Roan]

He.

[Sass]

He, like, gave us the perfect amount of information and we were charmed by it, but it was such a small restaurant that, like, I think he heard us being charmed by his first interaction with us. And then he couldn't stop giving us charming interactions. And it became uncharming. He uncharmed himself. Like you asked. At one point, there was like a big. There was a full chartreuse menu.

[Roan]

Yeah, they had the back page of their drinks. Menu was just all this vintage chartreuse.

[Francis]

I've never even heard of that.

[Nick]

Yeah, the mom says you were right.

[Host (Ron)]

The monks made it.

[Roan]

Yeah. Truce. Exactly. And we asked. We asked what this other guy, and he's like, you know, I don't really know. And then our waiter came over. He's like, if I may.

[Sass]

He popped up from behind, told the other guy.

[Host (Ron)]

He's like, get the.

[Roan]

Yeah, he did. Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Seriously. He literally said that.

[Roan]

The other guy say he said something funny.

[Host (Ron)]

I don't remember.

[Roan]

He was like, I think I'll go figure something else out. And then he gave us the whole, like, spiel on the.

[Francis]

So he was a pro.

[Nick]

Did you get the chartreuse?

[Sass]

No, no, he wasn't just a pro. He was like. He was first team, all pro.

[Francis]

Yeah. There's steak houses that have guys, like, career.

[Roan]

Career waiter. Yeah, for sure. This guy was.

[Francis]

Yeah. I mean, that one time we went to that place where we had that one guy that moot. Got his number.

[Nick]

What?

[Roan]

Whoa.

[Harry]

Yeah, it was Gibson's.

[Francis]

Gibson's.

[Harry]

He was a lifer.

[Francis]

Yeah. He was like, talking about, like, oh, yeah.

[Nick]

And then I don't like going to restaurants where they show you the cuts before they cook them.

[Roan]

Oh, that's exactly what they did.

[Nick]

I don't like that. I don't know what to do.

[Host (Ron)]

It's a lot.

[Sass]

Show us the cut. They. That. There was one thing that was like, this is a. There's a farm in Japan where you can buy a single animal from the farm. And we, like, bought one of the animals from the farm in Japan at auction. And it was just this, like, there. It wasn't just marbling. It was just a hunk of fat. It was just a pure hunk of. Of fat. Wagyu.

[Roan]

Yeah, it was. And you know, God knows how expensive we. But we issued that fortunately. But he was like, yeah, we were very lucky as a restaurant to get one of the 31 animals.

[Francis]

Oh, that work.

[Harry]

That would work on me.

[Roan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harry]

We like just like a club of wagyu fat. That.

[Sass]

It was a glob.

[Harry]

I would have to be so good.

[Sass]

It was a glove.

[Host (Ron)]

I think they said it was.

[Sass]

Both were like, we can't. We don't do wagyu because it's so. It's so fatty.

[Host (Ron)]

I mean, I. We had barely. I was so hungry, I was like, if I get wagyu right now, it's gonna kill me. That's all I eat for dinner.

[Harry]

I love. Yeah. I mean, obviously fat. Yeah. Meat fat.

[Sass]

Meat fat's great.

[Harry]

It's so good.

[Roan]

I find wagyu to be too rich for my tastes.

[Host (Ron)]

I think wagyu is good, but I think it's the best in, like, small, small doses. Like when we did that when we went to that Korean barbecue place.

[Roan]

That was kind of fun. Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Because it's just small pieces.

[Roan]

Yeah. Small tiny bites maybe. But no, the whole experience was pretty good. Harry did take his hat off, which I thought was really well mannered.

[Host (Ron)]

I mean, it was like if I. If I wore that.

[Game Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

People were going to be looking at me the entire time.

[Nick]

Dude. I'm the same way. I wear a hat. I feel hideous without a hat.

[Host (Ron)]

Oh, I felt

[Harry]

your hat.

[Host (Ron)]

I went to the bathroom and I saw myself in the mirror and I was like, oh, my God.

[Sass]

I thought you looked cute.

[Host (Ron)]

Hadn't showered. Hair's greased back, dude.

[Nick]

I load up on any sort of accessory on body. Oh. Like, I'm always incognito.

[Sass]

The beard's an accessory.

[Nick]

Sure is. Beard, glasses, like, what. What percentage of my face are you really seeing?

[Roan]

Under 10.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

D. Shaved was shocking.

[Nick]

Oh, yeah. That was horrible.

[Host (Ron)]

It's always funny when someone shaves who's had, like, a beard forever.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Like, when your dad shaves.

[Sass]

Hated that.

[Host (Ron)]

I would cry.

[Nick]

I would weep.

[Sass]

I love watching the videos of little girls watching their dad.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Because they're horrified.

[Host (Ron)]

I remember when my. The first time my dad shaved and being like, what the. I remember being, like, shocked.

[Sass]

Did he have a beard?

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, he had like a big. He had like a full beard.

[Sass]

Really?

[Game Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Not like long, but.

[Sass]

But he should bring that back.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Nick]

I've never had eyes on your dad.

[Sass]

I just got eyes on him. Within the last week.

[Nick]

What are we thinking?

[Harry]

Last week?

[Sass]

Within the last week you got to meet him. No, no, just got eyes on him.

[Host (Ron)]

I was gonna say.

[Roan]

When?

[Host (Ron)]

Where. When did this happen?

[Sass]

I got eyes on him. Oh, the family picture.

[Host (Ron)]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nick]

You keep the fam under lock and key, bro.

[Roan]

It's so funny. So we. Okay, so we met. We've talked about this, but we met Harry's mom and sister at the airport leaving Florida from fish week two. And they were the loveliest people ever. And we had such a nice sort of encounter with them in the terminal briefly. And then yesterday, Roan was saying to Harry at the dinner, he was like, you know, I kind of.

[Game Promo Announcer]

We.

[Roan]

Because we landed in. In Milwaukee, and Harry has said that his dad does work in Milwaukee. And Roan was like, I bet you guys thought you might see. What. What did you say?

[Sass]

I thought. I mean. Yeah, I thought you guys were gonna run into, like, his. His dad or something.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And Harry was like, that's ridiculous. We would never have. And then sure enough, though, when we landed in Milwaukee, we got out to where the Ubers were gonna pick us up on the curb, and Harry looked around and he goes, I wonder if my dad's here. And I'm like, what is he scheduled to be? He's like, no, he's just here all the time. Roan made the exact same comment later. Harry was like, that's ridiculous.

[Host (Ron)]

No, Roan said he lived in Wisconsin. In Wisconsin. Johnson.

[Sass]

I don't think I did.

[Host (Ron)]

That was what the entire argument was.

[Roan]

I see, I see.

[Host (Ron)]

And I went back and said he actually did at one point.

[Roan]

And then we went down this train of like, we're just gonna meet Harry's entire family at different airports around the country.

[Nick]

But do you communicate with them enough to like, hey, are you in Milwaukee?

[Host (Ron)]

I mean, my dad travels pretty much every week, so, like, I usually know, but I don't think he's not in Milwaukee right now. Okay.

[Roan]

And then he said something very sad, which was like. Like, my dad will come to New York and I won't even see him.

[Host (Ron)]

Well, I mean, that's cuz we see each other a lot.

[Nick]

Yeah, I guess so, being your dad and all.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nick]

But like, do your parents have any desire to, like, tour through the office or like.

[Host (Ron)]

No, I don't think so. But they. They come. They come to New York and visit.

[Sass]

They're so sweet and nice people. Yeah, they're so nice.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Nick]

They're not.

[Host (Ron)]

They're not big in the.

[Nick]

Well, my dad lived in New York. I like straight up hung out with him as a.

[Host (Ron)]

As a friend.

[Nick]

He had me as a young, young boy.

[Sass]

The same age, right?

[Nick]

Yes.

[Francis]

Your dad's a good hang.

[Nick]

He's all right.

[Roan]

He is.

[Sass]

He's a great hag. Harry's dad is. Is literally him with gray hair.

[Host (Ron)]

Pretty much, yeah.

[Sass]

He looks exactly like you.

[Host (Ron)]

Pretty much.

[Sass]

I look like my dad, but not like exactly like my dad. Your dad looks exactly like you.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, I know it's weird. Is he's jacking my style?

[Harry]

Is he more assertive than you or

[Host (Ron)]

he's kind of like.

[Sass]

He likes Black Thought.

[Host (Ron)]

He likes Black Thought?

[Harry]

Likes Black Thought?

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

He's really.

[Host (Ron)]

He claims to.

[Sass]

I don't know which I think is telling. I feel like that's very telling.

[Roan]

That's cool. Yeah.

[Francis]

At first I thought that was like.

[Nick]

How did that come up?

[Sass]

Because one time I said my, like I thought the best rappers. Black Thought and like Harry scoff. He's like, that's like someone like my dad likes that.

[Harry]

Says way more about your dad.

[Sass]

Yeah, yeah, your dad's cool.

[Host (Ron)]

I mean, I still think it's a crazy answer.

[Sass]

Black Thought is technically like an incredible, like perfect rapper. Has a cool voice.

[Host (Ron)]

Technically.

[Roan]

I think Dub Baby is one of the best rappers.

[Harry]

I think he's the coolest dude I know. Every time I see him, I like sink into him and he has like

[Sass]

his body and he's just like. He understands stand your ground law so well that I think that he's killed multiple people on live stream and always gets away with it.

[Host (Ron)]

He like killed a guy in a Walmart.

[Harry]

Every loophole.

[Host (Ron)]

He like killed a guy in a Walmart. I don't even think he was ever even like arrested for it.

[Nick]

He'll do like premeditated self defense.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Sass]

He also like cooks for his entire, like his tour. His entire tour on the road that.

[Francis]

I watched the video, it was like a seven minute video. He like makes a full meal, like catered almost.

[Sass]

Yeah. And he's like chefing the vegetables and like a big wok. Like he's cooking.

[Francis]

He's like, I got 30 minutes, I got to be on stage. And he's like dominating this kitchen. He's like a magnetically.

[Nick]

Yeah, he's.

[Sass]

Oh my God, a real alpha.

[Harry]

The rap community, they'll be like the baby's ass trash. Then I'll see him with a shirt, his shirt off and a chain freestyling and. And it's pure magic.

[Roan]

Does he Have a good body.

[Sass]

No, no. Insane. And he's a knockout artist, too. Like, he had. He's like. He could fight. He'll kill you with a gun, but he also can fight live.

[Host (Ron)]

I'm gonna look him up.

[Sass]

He has, like. Look up, I think has it. I think his penis has been leaked too.

[Host (Ron)]

I think his penis is massive.

[Sass]

Yes.

[Host (Ron)]

No, I think it is.

[Sass]

It is.

[Host (Ron)]

It's like 18 inches long.

[Sass]

Yeah, he has.

[Nick]

18 inches long.

[Sass]

He's a massive penis. He could cook. He can fight, he can kill. He can rap his, like. Like, cadence.

[Host (Ron)]

But people get mad because his rap all sounds the same.

[Sass]

They say, so what?

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, I agree. I agree.

[Francis]

I've never seen a video of him being bad at anything.

[Nick]

How tall is the baby?

[Host (Ron)]

Small.

[Francis]

Small.

[Host (Ron)]

That's pretty short.

[Nick]

Well, that just makes the penis look bigger.

[Host (Ron)]

I don't think his penis needs to look any bigger.

[Sass]

I think he's all set.

[Nick]

I think.

[Host (Ron)]

I think you get the idea. When you look at it. This is all.

[Nick]

But if you saw the penis without the body, how tall would you say the baby was?

[Host (Ron)]

7ft tall.

[Roan]

He's five. Eight.

[Sass]

Yeah, five eight with it. Absolutely.

[Host (Ron)]

Have you seen that video of him with the guy filming him through the window of his car? And he's like, yo, I loved you on the box?

[Harry]

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking of.

[Sass]

Yeah, I saw a video of him. Someone made, like, a portrait of his daughters or something like that.

[Game Promo Announcer]

That.

[Sass]

And came to one of his concerts, and the guy filmed himself trying to give the guy the. Try to give Dababy the portrait. And the baby just, like, walked past him and didn't even look at him. And the guy tried to make it, like, really sad and, like, make himself a victim on the Internet. And the whole Internet's like, you're a weirdo for bringing pictures of Dababy's daughters.

[Harry]

Yeah, that is. Yeah.

[Sass]

Live to debate.

[Nick]

A weird, weird move.

[Host (Ron)]

That's so crazy.

[Nick]

That's a Darren Ravel move.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, that's crazy. It's so crazy that people do that, and then they're like. Like, oh, I'm gonna post this online now, because I still think that I'm not the weird one.

[Sass]

I'm in the right. It might not have even been a picture. It might have been, like, one of those people that makes, like, custom bath mats or something like that.

[Nick]

A rug of your child?

[Sass]

Yeah, I made custom bath mats of. Of the baby's babies.

[Host (Ron)]

It took me three years to make.

[Francis]

What the.

[Sass]

It was preposterous. But, I mean, the baby is. I can't believe you're into the baby. That makes me so glad.

[Roan]

Yeah, I don't know. I saw. I saw one of his freestyles recently, and I was, as you said, mesmeri. Mesmerized by it. It's a very different flow. And he.

[Sass]

It's like iambic pentameter. It's like,

[Harry]

yeah, whatever that is.

[Francis]

I love his voice. Sounds like, so, like silky and, like, manly.

[Sass]

It's so nice.

[Francis]

It truly is a deep ass voice.

[Sass]

You kind of have the same, like, build as the baby.

[Roan]

Do I have the same build as him?

[Sass]

They're like, fully, fully maxed out.

[Roan]

I have a little. Yeah, I could see. I. I could see me and Dababy having something.

[Francis]

When you meet him, if you ever meet him, you should say we have the same bodies.

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[Nick]

You'd love that.

[Francis]

You would love that. Yeah, he'd be receptive.

[Sass]

He'd pull out penis.

[Roan]

Hi, Da.

[Nick]

Is it okay if I call you Doc?

[Roan]

But

[Nick]

please, my father's baby.

[Roan]

Me and my. Please call me die.

[Nick]

You're making me feel old. Baby makes me feel old.

[Sass]

He just got. Did he fully get canceled because of, like, the home? He was like, what, was he homophobic?

[Francis]

He's like, shout out if you don't got aids.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, it was, like, really odd.

[Francis]

And then it was like a whole thing.

[Host (Ron)]

It was at, like. What was it?

[Roan]

The.

[Francis]

Some festival?

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Sass]

And the only thing I saw was it was. It was like background noise on, like, a tailgate video or something. Like someone's filming stuff.

[Stella Blue Coffee Announcer]

Stuff.

[Host (Ron)]

Oh, I don't even know. I don't think I ever even saw the video. I just remember Elton John tweeted about it, which is probably not good.

[Francis]

Yeah, no.

[Nick]

Do you follow Elton John?

[Host (Ron)]

No, that's.

[Nick]

That's why.

[Host (Ron)]

That's why it's bad. Yeah, I saw it. And he had, like, multiple paragraphs.

[Sass]

Why is Elton John like, inheriting other people's beef? Like, he doesn't have aids. No.

[Host (Ron)]

He's gay.

[Sass]

Yeah. But he doesn't speak for the AIDS community.

[Host (Ron)]

I think he probably speaks more for the AIDS community than Dababy does. And Dababy's weirdly taking an anti AIDS stance and, like, Wait.

[Nick]

Are ways.

[Host (Ron)]

No, but he's like. He's taking, like.

[Nick]

I'm glad he's anti aids.

[Host (Ron)]

Well, anti aids, of course. We all are, but he's more anti aids, Havers. Ah, yeah. Which is a weird stance to have this time of.

[Francis]

It was also, like, remarkably unprovoked.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, that's what I mean. It's like, 20, 25, and he's like, anyone who has AIDS, dude, that's like

[Nick]

the crowd that hates barstool but loves pmt. I hate aids, but I love when people get it.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's probably, like, no one even in the crowd that has aids, which why

[Sass]

it should be, like, a good thing. It's like being in Philly, being like, the Cowboys.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Think that all the fans are all in the same.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Maybe there's, like, one dude that has aids, and he's like, huh.

[Nick]

I guess this isn't for me.

[Host (Ron)]

Just really didn't see this coming today.

[Nick]

I use this as an escape.

[Francis]

I got to say something.

[Nick]

Life is pretty tough. I use this concert as an escape.

[Harry]

I was trying to distract myself.

[Sass]

He's on his Make a Wish foundation trip.

[Host (Ron)]

Yo, if you got aids, go yourself. You get out of my show.

[Sass]

One guy's leaving.

[Nick]

Dude, just. It would suck to have, like, a personal emergency. Right. When he said aids, because everybody would think you had it as you were leaving.

[Sass]

No, not me. Not me.

[Nick]

I just got to go.

[Host (Ron)]

No problem. The crowds. The crowds clearing the path for you.

[Nick]

Oh, you get out so easy.

[Harry]

The Moses of aids.

[Nick]

The Red Sea.

[Host (Ron)]

The Moses.

[Sass]

Or being the AIDS guy and leaving. And they're like, you want us to stamp you to get back in? No, I'm all set. I'm actually all good.

[Host (Ron)]

The AIDS tank. You come pick me up? I'm in the AIDS tank at the baby show.

[Sass]

Yeah. Aids.

[Nick]

All right. You get one call.

[Francis]

They took my camel back.

[Harry]

A breathalized 1.0 AIDS.

[Francis]

I'm getting ticketed.

[Sass]

It's not right. It's not right. What the baby did. Lil Baby is a whole other story too.

[Nick]

I confuse my babies.

[Host (Ron)]

I love Lil Baby.

[Sass]

You do? Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

How could you not?

[Nick]

All right.

[Host (Ron)]

You don't like Lil Baby?

[Sass]

I'm not crazy about him. I'm more of a Daby guy guy.

[Host (Ron)]

I mean, feel like that's completely different sides of the rap world, you know?

[Harry]

How so I missed that, like, Little

[Host (Ron)]

Baby's a part of.

[Nick]

What's it called?

[Francis]

Ysl.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Harry]

I miss the generation cut off where, like, younger people are obsessed with him and NBA Young Boy.

[Host (Ron)]

Oh, yeah. I'm not. I'm not like, super. I like Lil Baby. I know a couple of his songs, but, like, there are people out there that, like, think that, like, Young Thug is the greatest artist ever.

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Ever.

[Harry]

That was more my job. Yeah.

[Francis]

I'm one of those people.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. And then everyone. All those people love.

[Harry]

Okay.

[Francis]

Otherwise, Be A Young Boy is discreetly, like, one of the biggest rappers in the world.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

[Francis]

He releases an album, like, every two weeks, and they all sell out of this world.

[Sass]

Are you familiar with NBA Young Boy?

[Roan]

No.

[Francis]

He's.

[Harry]

He.

[Francis]

He's an interesting dude. He's a bizarre guy.

[Sass]

I think that he went. I think Gillian Wallow maybe went to his. He's, like, on house arrest in Utah.

[Francis]

He's, like, riding horses and smoking cigarettes and recording 2 billion song songs.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And, like, he doesn't, like. You can't understand half the. He says. And he's pretty terrifying. But also in interviews, he, like, whispers

[Sass]

lean on someone's shoes intentionally and, like, made them, like, delete. Made, like, Gillian Wallow, like, delete the interview or something.

[Francis]

Oh, I didn't know about that.

[Sass]

I'm not even sure.

[Francis]

Yeah, he's got. I've listened to a few of his songs. Are good.

[Harry]

But, dude, the top rappers still have the motion that they used to.

[Host (Ron)]

No, I don't think so.

[Harry]

Now that, like, fame tears are more ambiguous, like, who are the top dogs?

[Sass]

I was with some rappers before we went on to this Kai so not stream. I was with all the battle rappers in, like, a theater in the basement of Kai Sonat's house. And they were theorizing. They're like, rappers are gonna be extinct within, like, 20 years. Like, rappers are. Are not.

[Nick]

It's, like, Japanese.

[Sass]

Yeah. The birth, though, like, replacement rate of rappers isn't at, like, the right. It's not at 2.2.

[Harry]

The same motivation when you can stream Team.

[Sass]

Right.

[Harry]

And do so many other avenues of entertainment that don't Require, like, extensive laborious work, like songwriting, rapid getting in the studio, releasing albums.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Kennedy was like, he had, like, he was very well thought out. Like, he. But he was like, yeah, like, rappers are not. Like, it might be something that people do, but it's not going to be a thing.

[Nick]

That's something that streamers will do for one video.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Roan]

Ever since the rise of female rappers, they're just not having kids as much. Missy Elliott really set, you know, a new standard where women are like, I can rap. I don't need to.

[Sass]

There are lots of tough women rappers these days.

[Roan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harry]

Good.

[Host (Ron)]

I feel like there's also just a lot more rappers these days that are just like full on junkies.

[Sass]

That's like the aesthetic.

[Host (Ron)]

I feel like it's not like what it used to be of, like, gangster rap. It's like dudes that are like, can't stand up.

[Harry]

That started like, like eight years ago where like, you had to be extremely incapacitated on opioids.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, like the, like the lean, lean, mean. Like, did you see that video of Chief Keef and all of his guys getting out of the plane? They can't walk.

[Sass]

Yeah, they're.

[Host (Ron)]

And they're all like, they're all bad as. But you can tell it's like rock hard. Like, it's all like just like constipated.

[Sass]

And then. And now there's like, young men.

[Host (Ron)]

I'm so serious. Like, the, the videos, like, the guy's guts. Like, who is this? L. Like, it's opioid constipation.

[Roan]

Chief.

[Nick]

You saw the video. Like, he has so much in it.

[Host (Ron)]

Dude, he can. He can't walk. It's not Chief Keef. It's like Chief Keef's friend, but Chief KE there.

[Sass]

Yeah, but there's. There's young dudes who aren't even on drugs that are, like, now emulating the, like, speech patterns of the.

[Harry]

Yeah, dude.

[Sass]

Rappers on drugs who are sober. Like, people. The Eagles first round draft pick, Makai Lemon, people are like, criticizing him for how he talks, but then there's other people being like, he's talking. Like, the rappers he knows because they're like drug addled like that. Their brains are fried.

[Nick]

He the guy that moves like a snake?

[Sass]

Yes, exactly. Slithers, bro.

[Harry]

He from Orange County.

[Sass]

It's a great call, but, like, people are.

[Harry]

Yeah, yeah. It's more of like a display.

[Sass]

It's a display and it's. I mean, it's. It's a weird thing to emulate, I guess.

[Francis]

Yeah, I just Feel like we're streaming now. Like, I watched, like, Wiz Khalifa and Kid Cudi started streaming.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And they were, like, making songs live. And Wiz Khalifa. I don't think I've ever seen someone look cooler. Like, he's at the point now where,

[Host (Ron)]

like, he's kind of having, like, an aura resurgence.

[Sass]

Yeah, but he's really.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harry]

I think it's the opposite. Do it with mgk. He's kind of like, I heard a

[Sass]

story where he was like, my kid goes to school and I saw all the teachers say he smells like weed every day. Yeah, that's not aura.

[Harry]

That's not. That's not really lame.

[Sass]

Yeah, that sucks.

[Francis]

But he's at the point now where, like, he was so famous and, like, kind of beat the story mode, and now he's, like, in these streams and all he's doing is, like, wearing, like, elegant cloths, smoking joints, and then just does verses.

[Nick]

Yeah, he's in the post game, but, like, Polo G is a streamer now, dude.

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T Gris.

[Host (Ron)]

Wait, is Polo og the one that is streaming and he's getting, like, no viewers and he's, like, starting from the bottom.

[Francis]

You know who the Slim Jimmy from Ray Shremmer is, like, streaming him rapping to, like, a dozen people.

[Game Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Francis]

It's crazy. T. Grizzly made his own GTA RP server.

[Game Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Nick]

He's making so much money off.

[Harry]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

I. I actually would bet that's probably where most of his money is coming from.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Wiz Khalifa's body is pretty interesting.

[Harry]

Have you seen Wiz Khalifa's Clelius?

[Roan]

Dude, I'll be honest with you. It's been a long time since I had any purchase on this conversation,

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since

[Nick]

I've been, like, sneakily googling so I can. What about Polo G? This is over here.

[Harry]

You're in the right jack button to cut.

[Nick]

The camera to us is collecting dust.

[Harry]

I cannot believe I'm even trying to participate.

[Roan]

Just like you're throwing out names that feel like you're punking me. You know?

[Host (Ron)]

T Grizzly's the best.

[Sass]

T. Grizzly GTA server.

[Nick]

Yeah, that's how I feel you to

[Roan]

be like, yeah, I do love that guy. And then you can all be like, he doesn't exist. Exist.

[Nick]

Gotcha.

[Harry]

Francis, wait.

[Nick]

You like

[Francis]

how you feel?

[Nick]

Somebody laughing at me like that with just the exhale would hurt so bad.

[Francis]

How you feel right now, Francis, is how I feel when they talk about literally anything else.

[Sass]

I. Nick, I've heard people call that the millennial wheeze.

[Nick]

Really?

[Harry]

That's. Yeah, we do that.

[Host (Ron)]

I do that all the time.

[Sass]

You do the Millennial?

[Roan]

Are you.

[Nick]

You're not a millennial. Are you a millennial?

[Host (Ron)]

No, I'm Gen Z.

[Nick]

Hell yeah.

[Sass]

I heard gen alpha is 16 now.

[Host (Ron)]

Really?

[Sass]

They're on your ass because the producer, the dude who directed that movie is

[Nick]

like, they're gonna catch up. They're gonna be Z soon.

[Francis]

What? Obsession?

[Sass]

Yeah. Was he 20?

[Francis]

Yeah, I think he's.

[Nick]

Back rooms is 20 right?

[Sass]

Back rooms. Maybe he's 20. 20 and then there. But then everybody's like, well, yeah, like, people are giving Gen Z all this credit for it. But, like, Gen Alpha is four years away from being in the exact same shoes. And you guys are about to be washed.

[Nick]

You're about to be geny.

[Host (Ron)]

Gen Alpha is going to be real bad.

[Sass]

Why?

[Host (Ron)]

Their brains don't work.

[Francis]

This is what every generation has said.

[Nick]

No, this one's bad.

[Host (Ron)]

This one's bad.

[Nick]

Walk past the interns and just be like, oh, boy.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

This one's like Z.

[Sass]

What are you talking about? They're not Gen Alpha.

[Harry]

Younger Gen Z. I think Gen Alpha

[Sass]

is like, going to be like.

[Host (Ron)]

They're like reset after ages 16 to 19.

[Harry]

Currently

[Host (Ron)]

nothing going on.

[Nick]

And what you're saying isn't even controversial.

[Francis]

16 to 19. Were we brilliant?

[Host (Ron)]

No, we were smarter than these people.

[Harry]

Yeah. Everyone looks like they just came off of a brain freeze. And they're like, staring at you with glassy eyes.

[Sass]

It's because the rise of nonchalance. I don't think it's even glassy eyes. I think it's like.

[Host (Ron)]

I think it's the rise.

[Sass]

Aspirational nonchalance.

[Harry]

And they speak like, that's my vibe. Like in Mexican Ebonics.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

The queer white dudes.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Talking like hood Mexicans.

[Francis]

You're describing the coolest person on earth.

[Nick]

It does sound like. It sounds awesome.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I have no exposure to 16 to 19 year olds at all. I don't know if I've ever met with one. This isn't.

[Francis]

I guess we're not detectives.

[Roan]

No, I know. I'm just trying to think like that age now is out of my world.

[Harry]

Are you curious?

[Roan]

Not really.

[Sass]

I mean, that's for the best.

[Roan]

That's like. I don't know. I don't.

[Game Promo Announcer]

I don't.

[Roan]

I'm never going to work with those people. That's. I'm too far removed. I'm never going to have an issue with them.

[Harry]

Right.

[Roan]

They'll see me as so old that I won't Even be like a target for them. I mean, I, you know, like, I don't think I'll be relevant to them. I don't think that I would be someone they would even make somebody trying

[Nick]

to impress or make laugh.

[Roan]

They in. In. In a way where if you passed a flock of them on the street and someone younger than me, I think they might be like, look at this loser with me. They'll just see me as like an elder.

[Harry]

That's a good place to be.

[Roan]

I don't mind it. Yeah, it's peaceful. Maybe I'm dead wrong about that.

[Host (Ron)]

No, I think, I think you're a little off. I think you got a couple more years of them calling you a loser.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Don't you.

[Nick]

Don't be too hard.

[Roan]

But I'm not trying to access there. I'm not, I'm not trying to have anything in common with that.

[Host (Ron)]

No, no.

[Roan]

I tried to. Had. I tried to have stuff in common with your generation. I tried to stay young enough to like, you know, have commonality with. With you guys.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And then you made fun of me. Me for that. You guys did. Which is fine. I get that.

[Nick]

What is?

[Host (Ron)]

You got me and my. Me and my crew.

[Nick]

Do you feel like even you have a disconnect with people your own age because you started. I did sooner.

[Host (Ron)]

I definitely did when I was younger. Like when I was like when all my friends were in college.

[Nick]

But like, you had a job when they were in college. You're, like, pissed that you were only making 60 grand. They were like, that's more money than I could ever think of.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Game Promo Announcer]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Then I definitely felt like I had a disconnect. Now I don't because all my friends have jobs.

[Nick]

Okay. But I would have been sad at first.

[Host (Ron)]

It was more just like, weird. Like when your friends are going out like five nights a week and I'm like working and doing bullshit. Especially I was touring a lot, so it was like a lot of just work. Yeah. But now I'm chilling.

[Sass]

That is nice. Whenever I get like that pang of being the older guy and I'm like, these kids probably think I'm a fudgeing loser. Then I just think about my case. I'm like, yeah, but my kids are going to think they're fucking losers. Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

It's tr.

[Sass]

So nice. So nice to have reset and think

[Roan]

that you're the man.

[Sass]

My kids, for a while. For a little.

[Roan]

Yeah, I think.

[Sass]

But even that I'm not even like, like being like reframing it. So I'm the man. I'm just reframing it. So the guy who thinks he's the man now is like just a future loser to just a different group of people.

[Harry]

That's a healthy way. Yeah, it's never going to stop now.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. It is really just a never ending cycle.

[Roan]

I wonder if there will be a generation that looks upon on our generation. Roan. And I guess you guys too, with any admiration.

[Francis]

I don't think we've done anything of note.

[Nick]

Are there.

[Host (Ron)]

But are there any generations that anybody.

[Roan]

I. I'll say. Specific to like fashion. There's been this sort of up, up, upwelling of like people love the way old men dress.

[Host (Ron)]

Like right now.

[Roan]

Yes.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, yeah.

[Roan]

In menswear it's like always some photo of a guy.

[Harry]

I'm noticing that on the. The websites.

[Roan]

Yeah. Going. What's that?

[Host (Ron)]

The websites.

[Harry]

The websites that I shop. The models are. Are very old.

[Roan]

Old men. Yeah, yeah, exactly. There's like this, I don't know, vintage Americana, kind of the coolest guy that you've ever seen dressed is the guy coming back from the bodega with grocery bags.

[Francis]

No, it's of a lot of like Kennedy.

[Roan]

Yeah, yeah, there's that too. But I'm talking even more like guys who are like 75 years old are being vaunted as. As like the best dress.

[Host (Ron)]

What is it because they're wearing like nice, like they wear like a, like a suit when they go out or what?

[Roan]

No, it's. I don't know. I'll try to find something to show you. But like they're wearing like a chore jacket with like baggy pants and like espadrilles or something. Something. And somehow that's like.

[Harry]

But people are being influenced by something with the substance of just a still image, not actually the behavior.

[Roan]

Yeah. You're like that guy's dressed well. But there's a 75 year old a block away who looks like.

[Nick]

Oh, disgusting.

[Sass]

Of course.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Sass]

There's like also old people in like nursing homes and moomoos and like, who like themselves.

[Roan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sass]

But I wonder if that will be iconic when we're doing it when we're in hospital gowns ourselves.

[Roan]

I agree. I don't know that there will be an admiration for, for. Because we didn't fight in any wars. We didn't really do anything.

[Host (Ron)]

I feel like it's just a cycle of the younger generation or people in the younger generations think the people in the older generations them over somehow and then they like think. I just think they all hate each other. Not actually hate each other, but, like, it's just like a general, there's an animosity. Yeah, Yeah, I, yeah, I was, I,

[Francis]

I, I ran into, I was walking my dog the other day and there was a bunch of probably like 17 year olds going to a concert now. And I was like, holy. And it was like a weird glimpse into my past for, like, it was a crew of, like, guys and girls. They were all like, clearly, like, had, like, water bottles and like, I'm envious

[Nick]

when I see that.

[Francis]

Yeah. And I was like, man, they're having so much fun. But the funny thing is, like, their fashion, now that I'm thinking about it was identical. It was just dudes that like, wearing like a, like a fucking Mavericks jersey to, like a music festival.

[Nick]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And then they were like, the guys were, had like drawstring backpacks and, like, just were taking their shirts off, you know? Mean, like, it was the same weird, stupid horseshit you wear.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Like, we wore.

[Host (Ron)]

I used to love a drawstring.

[Francis]

Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Host (Ron)]

I would hate when the, when the, when the straps would get, like, uneven.

[Francis]

Oh, yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

And you, like, they were like, impossible to fix.

[Francis]

No, it was, it was, it was three ingredients, but they would, if one broke.

[Host (Ron)]

It was impossible to fix.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Were you a drawstring bag in high school, kid? Not like, I hated early pregnancy.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah, no, no, I wouldn't, I wouldn't bring one to school. I had a regular backpack.

[Sass]

Okay.

[Nick]

The Nike drawstring

[Sass]

is tough.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

I definitely had a Nike drawstring, though, too.

[Sass]

You were a Y N. Oh, yeah.

[Harry]

You were.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. I always forget about, I guess back then.

[Francis]

Yeah. But imagine going to a concert now, Francis, and you're wearing a Toronto Raptors jersey.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

There's a point like, it seems like when you're like 16, 17, you go to a concert concert, and you're like, I need to show my arms.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You know what I mean?

[Roan]

I suppose.

[Host (Ron)]

No, me, I was like, I'm wear a black hoodie.

[Nick]

It's 90. It's gonna be like 90 today.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. I could probably get away with pants.

[Roan]

I think that, you know, more importantly, and Harry and I both agree that going to a concert period is out of the question for me.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Francis]

What are you talking about, bro?

[Roan]

I, I, I, I get very anxious at concerts.

[Host (Ron)]

I just don't know what to do, really.

[Roan]

I have a crowd. Yeah.

[Francis]

That's understandable.

[Roan]

I have a fear that I won't be able to escape if something bad happens.

[Harry]

Oh.

[Roan]

And it's, it's really crippling.

[Francis]

Oh, shit.

[Roan]

And it happens in large, like, standing room. New York.

[Francis]

Living in New York City helps.

[Roan]

Well, I don't know. I avoid crowds in New York City.

[Nick]

You need to start listening to less popular, popular bands.

[Host (Ron)]

True. Yeah.

[Sass]

You need to go see some trash.

[Roan]

Yeah, I mean, that's true. Like, I don't. I love like a little, small, tiny concert kind of show or whatever, but

[Francis]

do you feel that way at a sporting event somehow?

[Roan]

Sporting events don't bother me as much

[Host (Ron)]

because you're seated probably.

[Francis]

There is a bit of an anarchy to a lot of shows.

[Sass]

What about like going to a big concert at like Madison Square Garden where you have a seat?

[Roan]

I wouldn't do it. I would not be. I wouldn't, I wouldn't.

[Sass]

You wouldn't just go sway to Casey

[Roan]

Musgraves, dude, I haven't been to a concert in probably 20, 15 years now because of this. And maybe I'm just like fueling my own fear by probably by saying this sounds like it. Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah. You'd hate a music festival because there's so many people and then like, you look to your right and then there's like a 15 year old getting stretchered off.

[Nick]

Oh, yeah.

[Roan]

I think that this is exactly it. Like, since the last time I went to a concert, there was the Travis Scott situation, There was documentaries about Woodstock 99 that came out.

[Sass]

The Ariana Grande.

[Roan]

The Ariana Grande. It's just been like a litany of horror at concerts that I have said, those are not safe places and I will not venture near them.

[Francis]

Just stick to like Mumford and Sons. You'll be chill.

[Host (Ron)]

But Mumford and Sons, like, like, one of my friends was asking if we could get tickets to Mumford and Sons in New York and it's like even that, like they got like the pit. He was like, we got to go in the pit.

[Nick]

The pit.

[Host (Ron)]

And I was like, see the wall,

[Francis]

dude?

[Nick]

I just saw there was no pit.

[Host (Ron)]

I guess at MSG there's going to be like standing area on the ground. But I. Yeah, I'm not. That's like an immediate no.

[Harry]

I'm a crowd hater. But I do need to be in the pit.

[Host (Ron)]

Really.

[Harry]

I can't be confined to like a stadium seat.

[Roan]

I.

[Host (Ron)]

That's the thing too, is I don't think the stadium seat be fun.

[Roan]

Not enough.

[Harry]

I want to be able to like sway, move around, walk to the beer tent.

[Host (Ron)]

Are you dancing? Are you.

[Harry]

Are you grooving perception?

[Host (Ron)]

Like, when you took the mdma, were

[Harry]

you like, grooving yeah.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah. Like what? Any, like, any like full on. Like he's.

[Harry]

Oh, he's going very like incredibly graceful. I like that in my head.

[Francis]

Whatever he says,

[Harry]

I don't dance.

[Sass]

I took MDA at like probably. I was probably like 22 and I took it at like a, like a jingle ball type of event.

[Harry]

The corporate one AT T Mobile arena.

[Sass]

It was like an indoor arena where like they just shuffled on artists and I, I like, I think I was. I. I think I'm pop locked.

[Harry]

Rolling at the Iheart radio like Megan Trainer.

[Sass]

I couldn't believe was good fun. You guys have a heart out.

[Host (Ron)]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Okay.

[Host (Ron)]

Well, this was very fun.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Nick]

Thank you for having us. I appreciate it.

[Roan]

Thank you guys. Appreciate you.

[Francis]

Yeah, it was fun.

[Roan]

All right. That's son of a boy. Dad, we'll see you soon.

[Host (Ron)]

Goodbye.