Bush | Son of a Boy Dad #350

Summary

Son of a Boy Dad #350 — “Bush”

Date: November 6, 2025
Hosts: Barstool Sports (Francis Ellis, Jerry “Sass” Mooc, Ronan/Rone)
Episode Purpose:
This episode blends trademark Barstool banter with sincere conversation about growing up, starting businesses, and embracing the chaos of adult life — particularly for Sass, who’s recently dropped out of college and is seeking guidance from his peers and podcast “elders.” The cast riffs on pop culture, sports, entrepreneurial schemes, Instagram culture, and plans for a group fishing trip, all with irreverent humor and self-aware takes on masculinity, adulthood, and ambition.

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Main Themes and Episode Flow

• Existential Drift & Guidance Post-College:
  Sass discusses feeling “rudderless” after leaving college and explores what it means to be a man with the help of his co-hosts.
• Entrepreneurial Antics (Telluride Bush):
  Extended discussion of Barstool’s “Telluride Bush” video game esports team — its valuation, ownership drama, and investment ideas.
• Pop Culture/Media Tangents:
  Classic Barstool run-throughs of movies, actors, sports fashion, and the evolution of taste.
• Satirical Take on Business & Investment:
  Playful (sometimes pointed) debate about who deserves equity, how to value their projects, and faux-Silicon Valley analogies.
• Fishing Trip Planning:
  Genuine logistics for the cast’s upcoming fly fishing trip, veering into gear debates and outdoor philosophy.
• Social Media & Life Musings:
  Commentary on Instagram “dump” culture, influencer behavior, and how people broadcast (or overshare) their lives online.
• Masculinity, Fatherhood & Legacy:
  Francis shares anecdotes about his dad’s jokes, sports wisdom, and generational influence.
• Food, Ethics, & Animal Meat:
  A humorous but thoughtful debate about eating ethically, which meats are fair game, and anthropomorphic bias.

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Key Topics, Moments, and Timestamps

1. Movie & Actor Banter (01:01-08:18)

• The crew opens with riffs on iconic crime films (“The Town,” “American Gangster”), debating actors and logistics of crime scenes.
• Notable Quote:
  “He’s the coolest actor in Hollywood right now.” — Francis Ellis on Idris Elba (02:24)
• Discussion of classic Sports Illustrated for Kids comics (Buzz) and doctor’s office reading materials.

2. Sickle Cell Anemia Sidebar (07:04-08:18)

• Rone shares a personal connection: his father researches sickle cell anemia and cheap diagnostic tests.
• Memorable Bit:
  Roan joking about a “Timbaland beat” being the test (08:01).

3. Social Media & Magazine Nostalgia (08:18-14:46)

• Reminiscing about early 2000s pop culture and media, including sports anchors and magazine comics.
• Transition into institutional loyalties and “what you wear” as identity.

4. Cloning Dogs and Existential Dread (08:34-10:03)

• Tom Brady’s cloning his dog sparks debate on grief, attachment, and the strangeness/rationale of cloning pets.
• Great Quote:
  “That’s God’s version of cloning.” — Francis, on breeding versus cloning (09:42)

5. Sock Game & 80s Fashion (10:03-13:13)

• Tangent about cool socks, “cream” tones, and the cultural symbolism of 80s simulated thong aerobics fashion.
• Series of jokes about dress codes and masculinity.

6. Video Games, Mass Shootings & “Offseason” Life (13:35-15:28)

• Classic “old blame new” takes: video games as scapegoats for violence.
• Sass discusses lack of current fun in gaming, comic take on anti-gaming hysteria.

7. Esports Ownership Saga: The “Telluride Bush” Segment (15:40-26:13)

• Major Episode Thread:
  Sass details efforts to buy back or invest in Barstool’s Telluride Bush esports team, running through:

  • Attempts at raising money.
  • Inside machinations of equity stakes (negotiating with Dave Portnoy).
  • Comical attempts at startup valuation.
  • Parodies of startup analogies: Holmes, Jobs, Wozniak, Winklevoss.

• Notable Quotes:
  “You created a valuable asset out of thin air. This thing hasn’t even begun. You’re like the Elizabeth Olsen—no, no, no, Holmes, Elizabeth Holmes.” — Francis Ellis (18:59)
  “We're shaking things up.” — Sass (22:35)

• Satirical knockoffs of “Shark Tank” pitches:
  “I will give you $10,000 for 10 phone calls from you a week.” — Francis (23:39)

8. Instagram Culture, “Dumps,” and Oversharing (33:01–38:43)

• Railing on influencers and how people curate “carousel” posts and Instagram dumps.
• Memorable Analogy:
  “You can sift through that dump with a fine-tooth comb.” — Francis (34:37)
• Discussion of friends who have “lost it” and share too much online.

9. Family, Dads, and Sports Wisdom (48:48–54:07)

• Francis shares stories of his father’s “bits” and tips for navigating life (e.g., “bend your knees” in the elevator).
• Classic Bit:
  “My father’s paying!” — Francis’s dad’s favorite restaurant joke (50:15)
• Email about sports drafting strategy (“Teams with first round choices should trade them…”) (51:57)
• The generational bond over sports and “loving ball.”

10. Fly Fishing Planning & Outdoor Gear Banter (56:56–61:04)

• Intense gear breakdown: vests vs. packs, magnets, Orvis store pricing, and fishing ethos.
• Practical Laugh:
  “I only do DIY. I mean, we gotta catch and release, right?” — Sass (60:07)

11. Hunting Ethics and Animal Consumption (61:04–67:48)

• Spirited debate on hunting fairness, anthropomorphized animals, and which meats are “okay” to eat.
• Great Quotes:
  “Eagles are the coolest thing ever. I don’t think they’ll ever not be cool.” — Francis (62:47)
  “You just said you eat cow!... Cows, they never had a chance.” — Ronan/Jerry (67:48)
• Ethics of eating horse, bear, wolf, and the difference between factory-farming and “wild” meat.

12. “Girl Math” and Financial Justifications (78:09–79:33)

• Joke explanations of spending logic (“girl math”), using savings in one area to justify purchases elsewhere.
• “My kids are eating girl math, boss is at it again.” — Rone (79:49)

13. Final Trip Logistics & Sleepover Vibes (77:49–79:49)

• Deciding what games and consoles to bring; “adult sleepover” energy.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Sass on leaving college:
  “I’m just working it out as I go, man.” (Ongoing throughout)
• Francis on business schemes:
  “You created a valuable asset out of thin air. This thing hasn’t even begun. You’re like the Elizabeth Holmes … of video games.” (18:59)
• Rone on social media:
  “I want what God did for Brianna Chickenfry to happen for me.” (33:05)
• Jerry on fashion:
  “You look like Rocky's unsuccessful nephew.” (56:13)
• Francis on ethics of eating:
  “No, because they have been anthropomorphized to a level that you... because of Winnie the Pooh or the Berenstein Bears.” (67:00)
• On fishing skills:
  “A woolly bugger is probably going to be your best bet, because you don’t really need to do anything.” — Sass (70:24)
• Francis on Instagram “dumps”:
  “The art of throwing up just like seven or eight Instagram stories... you can learn a lot about a person based on their dump.” (34:24)

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Key Timestamps for Reference

• 01:01–08:18 — Movie/pop culture riffs, actor debate (Idris Elba)
• 08:34–10:03 — Ethics and personal pain in dog cloning
• 15:40–26:13 — Telluride Bush esports business saga
• 33:01–38:43 — Social media oversharing/carousel photo culture
• 48:48–54:07 — Fatherly wisdom, sports drafts, family dynamics
• 56:56–61:04 — Fishing gear, trip planning
• 61:04–67:48 — Hunting fairness, animal ethics
• 77:49–79:49 — Sleepover logistics, “girl math” justifications

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Tone and Style

• Conversational, irreverent, often self-deprecating
• Mixes satirical business speak with genuine admission of uncertainty or failure
• Rapid fire, overlapping, and self-aware — typical Barstool-style comedic chaos

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Summary Takeaways

• This episode delivers a blend of absurd humor, earnest confusion about adulthood, and satirical commentary on entrepreneurship and modern culture.
• The biggest, most recurring thread is the saga of the Telluride Bush business plan, with everything else orbiting around their dynamic as “lost boys” making it up as they go.
• Fans of the show will enjoy the embarrassing anecdotes, pop culture asides, and the way masculine bravado softens into real talk about growth, failure, and what to wear on a fishing trip.

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If you want to feel caught up, brush up on your fishing slang, investment jargon, and the long, strange legacy of dad jokes — and tune in for another week of Barstool’s blend of chaos and camaraderie.

Transcript

[Ronan Farrow]

Hey. Son of a boy. Dad. Listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Francis Ellis]

When cool creamy ranch meets tangy bold buffalo. The whole is greater than the sum of its sauce. Say howdy, partner. To new buffalo ranch sauce only at McDonald's for a limited time.

[Jerry Mooc]

A participating McDonald's.

[Ronan Farrow]

You are standing inside a secret prison. It houses the Nazi high command.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm gonna put Hermann Goering on trial. Sony Pictures Classics presents Nuremberg. Starring Academy Award winner Russell Crowe, Academy Award winner Rami Malek, and Academy Award nominee Michael Shannon.

[Jerry Mooc]

Do you plead guilty or not guilty?

[Guest/Interjection]

Order. Order.

[Ronan Farrow]

Nuremberg opens only in theaters everywhere November 7th. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

We are not. I'm not. I'm not going back to County.

[Jerry Mooc]

Set up. You're gonna set up a desk outside the office.

[Francis Ellis]

What movie is that?

[Ronan Farrow]

I'm not going back to County.

[Francis Ellis]

What movie?

[Ronan Farrow]

I don't know.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm holding court here on the street. What movie?

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't know.

[Francis Ellis]

The Town. Jeremy Renner.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, really? For some reason, I was thinking American Gangster. And he shoots that dude in the head.

[Francis Ellis]

That's pretty baller. I still don't understand how he got away with that.

[Jerry Mooc]

That scene doesn't make much sense logistically.

[Ronan Farrow]

Because they don't tell in the hood.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, but. Come on.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, but I mean, like, they were at a restaurant that was back down.

[Francis Ellis]

Look, I'll tell you what. I lose my appetite if I see somebody, like, yelling at somebody. Yeah. Shooting somebody in the head in the street.

[Ronan Farrow]

I'm not even going back to your.

[Francis Ellis]

Peach cobbler omelet after that.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah. That's so bold.

[Jerry Mooc]

And he takes the tip jar. He lives the tip.

[Ronan Farrow]

Or did he put it on his chest or something like that?

[Francis Ellis]

He put the. On his chest?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. Yeah. That's good.

[Francis Ellis]

Why did he do that again?

[Jerry Mooc]

Because that guy was coming around asking for money in front of his family.

[Francis Ellis]

Cross the line and that's.

[Ronan Farrow]

You don't do that.

[Francis Ellis]

That actor, that great actor, Denzel Washington. Idris Elba. Idris Elba. Is it Idris?

[Jerry Mooc]

I've no idea.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, it is. Good call.

[Francis Ellis]

It is, right?

[Ronan Farrow]

Idris from the Wire.

[Jerry Mooc]

Old ass name.

[Francis Ellis]

You don't know Idris Elba? No. Come on. Yes, you do. Idris Elba.

[Jerry Mooc]

I've never seen the Wire.

[Francis Ellis]

It's not just that. Now he's in everything.

[Ronan Farrow]

He was gonna be James.

[Francis Ellis]

He's the coolest guy. He's the coolest actor in Hollywood right now.

[Jerry Mooc]

It doesn't sound like it.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, he. It is and by the way, you not knowing who someone is is a credit to them.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't know. I'm really bad with actors.

[Francis Ellis]

Seems so.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't know. Like, I know actors.

[Ronan Farrow]

He own phase.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, I know. I know actors. But their names. When someone says the name of an at. Like if you named like, 15.

[Francis Ellis]

Did you watch that show about the plane that gets hijacked?

[Jerry Mooc]

No.

[Francis Ellis]

It's like they're on the flight the whole time.

[Jerry Mooc]

Flight attire.

[Francis Ellis]

It's called hijack, I think now.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't think so.

[Francis Ellis]

It's pretty good. You might like it. He's in that. He's in everything, man. I'll just look him. I mean, come on. You know who. Idris.

[Ronan Farrow]

I know.

[Jerry Mooc]

I probably know some fucking respect. Idris.

[Ronan Farrow]

Show a little bit.

[Francis Ellis]

One of the most, like, bookable.

[Ronan Farrow]

He's a classic.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, yeah, of course.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. What are you talking.

[Jerry Mooc]

Who doesn't know this guy?

[Ronan Farrow]

Which is actually a credit against him that you know him.

[Francis Ellis]

Go back to not knowing him so I can be successful. Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

He's the one that gets shot in the head, right?

[Francis Ellis]

Thor Ragnarok. Yeah, he's the one who gets shot in the head.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, he's in Molly's game.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, he's the lawyer.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, you're right.

[Francis Ellis]

Let's go.

[Ronan Farrow]

Aren't you looking at his.

[Francis Ellis]

Come on, man. Let's fucking go.

[Jerry Mooc]

I just didn't know. He's. He's very talented. Wish him nothing but the best.

[Ronan Farrow]

Sass is best in the wire. Sass is at his. Cool guy, hottest. Whenever he wears a beanie.

[Francis Ellis]

The beanie. Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

He's out.

[Francis Ellis]

You know that we don't really get along with espn, right?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. So I've thought about that a good bit, actually. But then I. It's just like. I wish I could just rip this part off.

[Francis Ellis]

But you had that sweater assigned for this week.

[Jerry Mooc]

For this week, yeah. That's the problem.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Well, you have been wearing it since I got it. Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Actually. You wore that to snl?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, of course. It was casual.

[Francis Ellis]

Like, what. What's your thought for that? What happens there where you're like.

[Jerry Mooc]

I just love how this sweatshirt fits. It's really. That's all it's about. It's about how it fits.

[Francis Ellis]

But it says something.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, but that's not important.

[Francis Ellis]

It says. It says, I really like to watch the sports highlights.

[Jerry Mooc]

Brown said I was a walking.

[Francis Ellis]

At 9am At 10am if I stay home sick from school, I'm running it.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm watching Sports Center.

[Ronan Farrow]

Stuart Scott, svp, who is an absolute men. Rosillo back in the day.

[Francis Ellis]

Now, was he an anchor on Sports Center?

[Ronan Farrow]

No, but he was a. He had a show on espn. So I guess just the top part of the sweatshirt is represented by.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yep.

[Francis Ellis]

Barcel Van Talk.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. See, I didn't know if I was like, I wondered for a minute if it was going to be something that would like cause problems.

[Ronan Farrow]

Should I send it to Dave right now?

[Francis Ellis]

I don't even know, to be honest with you. That's all way over my pay grade.

[Jerry Mooc]

So I don't think it is.

[Ronan Farrow]

It's like a throwback. Like you got that for like a subscription to Sports Illustrated in the mail back in the day.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Sports Illustrated for Kids. Buzz.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Remember Buzz?

[Jerry Mooc]

No, who was Buzz?

[Francis Ellis]

They did a comic. There was always a comic feature at. In. Yes, I think it was at the end. Yeah, the kid's name was Buzz.

[Jerry Mooc]

The only time I ever watched or I ever read Sports Illustrated for Kids is when I went to the doctor. They had all the magazines.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

I read Highlights at the doctor.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

You know what? I read Cosmopolitan because it would always be like 101 tips to get your man hard as a rock. And that would be on like the COVID of the little girls magazine. So. But I was a little boy, so.

[Francis Ellis]

Highlights. Highlights. Did some great features. One time they listed all the best palindromes.

[Ronan Farrow]

Race car.

[Francis Ellis]

A man, a plan, a canal Panama.

[Ronan Farrow]

Rise to vote, sir.

[Francis Ellis]

Wow, that's a good one. Mr. Owl ate my metal worm.

[Jerry Mooc]

We had the. We used to have like the double XL or XXL magazine at our doctor's office.

[Francis Ellis]

Really thought he was gonna.

[Ronan Farrow]

I thought, yeah, if you did like a 20 word palindrome, that would have been so sick.

[Jerry Mooc]

I wish I could.

[Francis Ellis]

Race car. Anyway, back to double xl.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, no, it wasn't even. It was a dumb joke.

[Francis Ellis]

Where did you go to the. What doctor did you go to?

[Jerry Mooc]

I went to one in Harlem.

[Guest/Interjection]

Just.

[Jerry Mooc]

Trying to get out of this joke, honestly.

[Ronan Farrow]

What was the. What was the joke?

[Jerry Mooc]

The joke was going to be that my doctor had the double. That's how I found out about the freshman class every year getting my balls looked at.

[Ronan Farrow]

That's funny.

[Francis Ellis]

Going to nutrition, when in check on and whether or not you had sickle cell anemia. Is that the. Is that the disease that only black people can get or are they the only group that cannot get it?

[Ronan Farrow]

No, no, they get it.

[Francis Ellis]

They're the only ones that get it. Right.

[Ronan Farrow]

I don't know if they're the only Ones.

[Jerry Mooc]

But my common.

[Ronan Farrow]

They got it for sure.

[Francis Ellis]

It's. It's endemic to them. Right?

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't know.

[Ronan Farrow]

My. My dad is one of the. Like, his. His life work is researching sickle cell anemia.

[Francis Ellis]

No way.

[Jerry Mooc]

Really?

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah. And like, finding a better test for it. It's hard to find a cure, but finding a cheap test like that you can sell in African countries.

[Jerry Mooc]

What's the current test?

[Ronan Farrow]

I mean, it costs like 2 cents to make.

[Francis Ellis]

You were right, Roan. It is not only. It does not only affect black people, although it is most common individuals of African descent, it also affects people of any race or ethnicity whose ancestors came from other parts of the world where malaria was or is widespread.

[Ronan Farrow]

The. The current test is they put on a Timbaland beat and see if you can bob your head to it, like. Oh. Yep, he's got it. Yeah, he's got sickle cell. It's bad. Oh, no, he's pop locking. Oh, he's got it.

[Francis Ellis]

Brutal.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, I guess I should do this intro.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Let's. Come on. Fire it up, brother.

[Jerry Mooc]

Welcome back to the Son of a Boy dad podcast. Today, it's November 4th. It is 3:40pm and we're here live from HQ. Tres.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

You guys see another beautiful day in New York City.

[Ronan Farrow]

You guys see Tom. Tom Brady cloned his dog.

[Francis Ellis]

I did see that.

[Jerry Mooc]

I did not. But we were just discussing that downstairs.

[Ronan Farrow]

So you saw it or you didn't?

[Jerry Mooc]

I didn't see it. I heard.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, sorry.

[Jerry Mooc]

But yeah, that's interesting. I don't. I think that's a pretty weird idea.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah. I don't know why rich people decide to do that.

[Francis Ellis]

I mean, I don't hate it. I don't know. It'd be a little weird, but, like, you lose a dog, it's. That's the. That everyone knows that that is the problem with dogs is that they die, is that they die. Yeah, but it's a nightmare. And if you could, the day after your dog died, have the dog its life over.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, but it's not like some pet.

[Francis Ellis]

Cemetery type of shit.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, but then aren't you looking at it being like you're not fucking whiskers?

[Francis Ellis]

I mean, it's the closest it's going to be. Yeah, that's the thing.

[Jerry Mooc]

I feel like it would be better. I'd rather just get a dog. Like, like breeding the dog like that. Like, didn't you say you did that, Francis? Like you guys had a dog and then it died, but then you had like, the puppy from it.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, Waggy was the matriarch and we got sparkle from her.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, like I think that's a, that's.

[Ronan Farrow]

God's version of cloning. Cloning.

[Francis Ellis]

Well, what was cool for them was that they got to stay together as a family.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh yeah, of course.

[Francis Ellis]

Mother and daughter.

[Jerry Mooc]

That's great. Yeah, love that.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah. That is the dream. Yeah. It's just like what if you. What if they have a different personality? Like what if it's a. Yeah, what if that one dog was perfect?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. What if this one Tom Brady's new dog bites.

[Francis Ellis]

We just quickly just comment on my socks, cuz I finally got my socks right.

[Jerry Mooc]

Hell yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, that's right.

[Francis Ellis]

These are the cool, cool socks.

[Jerry Mooc]

Are they?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, they're cool.

[Jerry Mooc]

Those don't look like Nike elites.

[Francis Ellis]

I've been struggling with my sock game for a long, long time, bro.

[Ronan Farrow]

Really?

[Francis Ellis]

And this is what we're going to be doing from now on.

[Ronan Farrow]

What is, what is it?

[Francis Ellis]

Cuz I'm always on the pod putting my leg over my knee.

[Ronan Farrow]

I know.

[Francis Ellis]

And I'm always conscious about my sock always showing off.

[Ronan Farrow]

It actually doesn't go with anything. It's so embarrassing.

[Francis Ellis]

And this is what, this is what. When you go to like, you know, you know, who would, you know who would have these socks or the. Are the guys on failing upwards?

[Ronan Farrow]

You think so?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

Those look like dress socks.

[Francis Ellis]

No, no, no, they're cream.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. You'd wear them under a cream suit.

[Francis Ellis]

I don't have any cream suits.

[Ronan Farrow]

What do you wear?

[Francis Ellis]

I don't have cream suits.

[Jerry Mooc]

You don't got a single cream suit.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm not a slave owner.

[Ronan Farrow]

Well, I never the perfect socks, I do declare.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm not waiting for sweet tea to be batched.

[Jerry Mooc]

I think there's anything wrong with a nice cream suit.

[Ronan Farrow]

They are, they are really nice. But I was worried that they, they kind of have the like a, a jazzer size hue to them.

[Francis Ellis]

Really Jazzer size.

[Ronan Farrow]

Like over like not what I'm going for. You'd wear that, you'd wear like a tight legging and then those would be over the top of the legging at the bottom.

[Francis Ellis]

Think about the 80s and those videos the. Where the women had like the simulated thong.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yes.

[Francis Ellis]

The simulated thong wasn't actually a thong because they had other stuff going on beneath it. But that look.

[Ronan Farrow]

I don't even know if they invented the thong yet. Some like bushy curly hair and a simulated thong.

[Jerry Mooc]

What's the simulated thong like on the tights?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, you wear you where you're Wearing a leotard. Right. So it goes below, you know, say down to the knee or something like that. And yet there is also a thong thing happening. You know, I'm talking.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, yeah, of course.

[Francis Ellis]

A couple bags of sand, I think.

[Jerry Mooc]

I think having to dress like that as a girl must be the worst thing in the world. I mean, to leave the house every day in like tight clothes.

[Francis Ellis]

Well, it's, it's moved though. Women don't wear tight, tight clothes anymore.

[Jerry Mooc]

They're not leaving the house. And in an ESPN crewneck.

[Francis Ellis]

Let me tell you something. The last few women I've dated, I still own a lot of their clothes.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Because I wore them home. I was like, these jeans fit me better than they fit you, you baggy.

[Jerry Mooc]

I guess that is true.

[Ronan Farrow]

That is.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm like, do you have a sweatshirt? And they bring me one. I'm like, is this from an ex? And they're like, no, I just bought that it's weak.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, that is. But so is Athleisure completely out for women?

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't think so, no.

[Francis Ellis]

You mean tights?

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, like, yeah, like leggings. A Lululemon set.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. No, I think that's always, that's, that's always going to be around. But, but as far as jeans and stuff go for women, right now, they're in a baggy phase.

[Jerry Mooc]

They are baggies in.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm going even baggier. Look at these pants. You know how many shotguns I could bring to a school with these pants on? You know how many weapons? Did you ever see that video?

[Jerry Mooc]

No.

[Francis Ellis]

Of the guy. There's like a PSA that came out or something around, Around Columbine.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Where they showed a video of a guy and they were like, you think this is a normal student and he's wearing normal clothes? School.

[Jerry Mooc]

And they.

[Francis Ellis]

And yet. And then he starts pulling weapons out of his hands.

[Jerry Mooc]

Sound like that.

[Francis Ellis]

He's got idea. A fucking shotgun down one leg. He's got like three pistols, one of those semiautomatic like guns, snub nose things, you know.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yesterday I was trying to. I was trying to write. And I was trying to write a joke about video games and like how they were. Everyone said that they were the cause of like mass shootings, gun violence. Tipper Gore said that. And I was trying to, I was trying to come up with like other. I was trying to remember the other. Like the reasoning that people had that thought. I looked up like an article from it from like 2019.

[Francis Ellis]

They also blame Marilyn Manson too. But I'm sorry, keep going.

[Ronan Farrow]

You say 2019. I feel like this is like a 1995 argument.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. But it came back recently and I was trying to look. I was trying to look at like, the reasonings that they had as to like, why. Why gun violence is caused by people that play video games. And then it was like. One of the counterpoints was like, actually, some people say that people that play more video games are less likely to shoot up a school because they're so occupied with the video game that they have no time to act to find guns. Or I was like, I don't think that's one of the worst points I've ever heard.

[Ronan Farrow]

I'm out of time. I was supposed to do my shooting today, but I ran out of time.

[Jerry Mooc]

Sling. I'm slammed playing Fortnite all night.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, I mean, I don't think it's that bad of a reason. You know, I can't get you to meet me for a sandwich, let alone shoot up a school.

[Jerry Mooc]

But like, anyone who wants to find a gun, I don't think their, their biggest hang up is like, well, then what's. When am I going to be able to play Call of Duty if I'm out buying guns all day?

[Francis Ellis]

Fair enough. I. Seriously.

[Ronan Farrow]

But that is kind of. I mean, he, he plans his one trip a day to Best Buy.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

No, no, no. I actually haven't been gaming as much as I. As I would like to. We're in a. We're in a terrible off season right now.

[Francis Ellis]

I don't believe you.

[Jerry Mooc]

I.

[Francis Ellis]

It's true.

[Jerry Mooc]

Unfortunately. I'll sit down to play video games a lot and then sit there.

[Ronan Farrow]

Phone rings. Off the hook.

[Jerry Mooc]

No, I just sit. I'm like, none of these look fun.

[Francis Ellis]

What do you do?

[Jerry Mooc]

I have do a lot.

[Francis Ellis]

Give me, give me just. And I'm not even being condescending. I want to know. I'll. Give me a slice of your life.

[Jerry Mooc]

I can get. I mean, yesterday I did this and then I did some stuff for, for Telluride Bush, which was going stronger than ever.

[Ronan Farrow]

What stuff did you do, though?

[Jerry Mooc]

Reaching out to advertisers. Setting.

[Ronan Farrow]

No, you didn't.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yes, I did.

[Ronan Farrow]

No, you did not.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

You're selling the team.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm selling the team myself. Someone's got to do it.

[Ronan Farrow]

You're reaching out to advertisers.

[Jerry Mooc]

Logitech, HyperX, Razor, Intel Core.

[Ronan Farrow]

We've been doing this show for years. You haven't never.

[Jerry Mooc]

You have like 15 ad reads an.

[Ronan Farrow]

Episode because you reached out.

[Jerry Mooc]

No, they sold it themselves this Is one. We need this to be sold stat.

[Francis Ellis]

I did always wonder if there was a world where if we could bring in some huge ad ourselves for something that we created at barstool, whether or not we would get the sales commission for that.

[Ronan Farrow]

And the answer is no.

[Francis Ellis]

And that's because we don't want to take the work away from our sales team.

[Jerry Mooc]

There's some weird deal that Rome was explaining to me where they get like. I think it's if you get one for your personal. Instagram. If you get one for like a personal account. Yes. Like if you reach out to an advertiser and you get an ad for a personal. Like a story on Instagram, you would get a slice of that pie.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, well, obviously.

[Jerry Mooc]

But if it's for a brand, it's for a barstool brand.

[Francis Ellis]

But then why are you. Then what are you doing?

[Jerry Mooc]

We're trying to buy Telluride Bush from Dave. That's the current plan.

[Francis Ellis]

Are you fucking kidding me right now?

[Jerry Mooc]

Dave or Jerry actively. Right now is negotiating over text with Dave for us to buy the company from him.

[Ronan Farrow]

The company?

[Francis Ellis]

What's Dave quoting?

[Jerry Mooc]

The team? He says having Austin do all of.

[Francis Ellis]

It for the team.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, Right now we got 50k for 50%, but we're not taken.

[Ronan Farrow]

Wait, but then Jerry just.

[Francis Ellis]

That means the team is valued at $100,000. That's what Dave is valuing the team at.

[Jerry Mooc]

Sort of. Yes.

[Francis Ellis]

No, actually.

[Jerry Mooc]

But we did have an. We did have someone looking to invest $100,000 for 10%, which that could mean that we're valued at.

[Francis Ellis]

But you shouldn't tell him that yet.

[Jerry Mooc]

$1 million.

[Francis Ellis]

Then he's going to bump his price. Who, Dave.

[Jerry Mooc]

Dave. We're hoping that we're going to be able to work something out with Dave where we don't have to give him $50,000. But we're not there yet.

[Ronan Farrow]

No, but it's better for them if their valuation's a million dollars than if it's a hundred. If he could buy 50% after.

[Francis Ellis]

But after he buys the team, we got to own it right now. That's going to drive the value of the price of the team up. Yeah, Dave's gonna hear, oh, you wait a minute. You have an offer for 10% of the team for 100k. That means it's worth a million dollars. I'm not selling you half the team for $50,000. Yeah, price just went up.

[Ronan Farrow]

Jerry's gonna have to hit some bets.

[Jerry Mooc]

He just did.

[Ronan Farrow]

I'm saying if he wants the half million, he could buy it out right, Right now.

[Jerry Mooc]

He could. Yeah, we're. We're doing that. And then I had a spot at the stand last night, which.

[Francis Ellis]

Hold on a second. Wait a minute. Wait, whoa, whoa.

[Ronan Farrow]

Because we just time travel.

[Francis Ellis]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. You're telling me a little bit of that is your issue?

[Jerry Mooc]

Shut it down.

[Francis Ellis]

Hang on.

[Jerry Mooc]

Right around? Yeah, right around, actually. I went to bed at 11.

[Francis Ellis]

Why are you blowing past this? Can you. Can you just let me stick on this for one second? Because I have so much. This is an amazing thing you've done.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, the Telluride book.

[Francis Ellis]

You created a valuable asset out of thin air. You haven't even started. This thing hasn't begun. You're like the Elizabeth Olsen. No, no, no.

[Ronan Farrow]

Holmes.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, Holmes. Is it Holmes?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Holmes.

[Francis Ellis]

The blood company.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yes.

[Francis Ellis]

Elizabeth Holmes video games.

[Ronan Farrow]

She didn't own. She didn't make anything yet. And then she started selling it.

[Jerry Mooc]

Genius.

[Francis Ellis]

She got billionaires to invest hundreds of millions, maybe billions of dollars in this company that had no proven tech that they hid. They hid the technology in the dark. It didn't fudgeing work.

[Ronan Farrow]

And now she is in jail.

[Francis Ellis]

She's in jail.

[Jerry Mooc]

Okay, so maybe not our best example.

[Francis Ellis]

And behind the brilliant minds. Let's just recap. Behind this modern day Elizabeth Holmes creation in the video game world are a former crack addict, a guy who wears the same sweater every single day, despite the what it will do to.

[Jerry Mooc]

This is our. This is our. Like Steve Jobs in the. In the garage. Yeah, we're just getting warmed up.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

Big things on the way.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, but Jerry is Steve Jobs. MOOC is.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm Steve Jobs. I'm Steve Jobs. I want to get that under.

[Ronan Farrow]

You're not definitely 100.

[Francis Ellis]

Definitely Steve Jobs.

[Ronan Farrow]

I watched your guys live podcast. He's the only one.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm talking brains.

[Francis Ellis]

Then you'd be woes.

[Jerry Mooc]

No, Jobs is the brains.

[Francis Ellis]

No, Jobs was branding and vision. Woes was brand was tech and structure. And like the DNA of the product was product.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm all of that.

[Ronan Farrow]

You are not.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, you're not.

[Ronan Farrow]

You are not all of that.

[Francis Ellis]

You're not.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm not. Obviously it's a team. We're going to. It's a team thing. But it's honestly, I mean, I think it's a great.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm trying to think about in the Apple parallel what you would.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm Jobs. I'm Jobs at Pixar, not Apple. Different guy.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, you're. You're a whole different class of human being. You're Severin.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, Eduardo?

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, he's Eddie Saver.

[Jerry Mooc]

Eduardo.

[Ronan Farrow]

Or maybe you're Winklevoss.

[Francis Ellis]

No, no, no, I'm Winklevoss.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm Winklevoss. If Dave takes barstool or if Dave.

[Ronan Farrow]

Takes Bush, then you're.

[Jerry Mooc]

Then I'm Winklevoss.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

And then we're gonna be in a courtroom and he's gonna be saying, if you created the Telluride Bush, you would have created Telluride Bush.

[Ronan Farrow]

Hang.

[Francis Ellis]

What do you mean if Dave takes Bush?

[Jerry Mooc]

Because that's what happens. The Winklevoss twins.

[Francis Ellis]

I get it. But would. Would he do that? What does that mean? Right now?

[Jerry Mooc]

He's already said. He's already said he's doing it. Yeah, he's taking it.

[Ronan Farrow]

So you're.

[Jerry Mooc]

But I don't think he's actually going. I think he's just fucking with.

[Francis Ellis]

Jerry owns it.

[Jerry Mooc]

He said, Jerry said, we want. We're willing. Jerry pitched Dave and said, we're willing to give you 10% of Telluride Bush for like $10 million.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Jerry Mooc]

Dave said, well, I own 100% of it already, so why would I give you $10 million?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

And here we are.

[Francis Ellis]

Okay. So right now, as things stand, Dave owns 100% of Telluride Bush. Why are you trying to buy it back? Why are you not trying to work within the system?

[Jerry Mooc]

Because when the Saudis come knocking, we're gonna want a slice of the pie. When the Saudis are looking to throw that 500 million dollar bag around, you're.

[Francis Ellis]

Trying to already create that like Chiclets rev share situation.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yes.

[Francis Ellis]

You're trying to separate while you're at push five play.

[Jerry Mooc]

Five play. Exactly.

[Francis Ellis]

It's an interesting tactic and one I haven't seen done before at barstool, but.

[Jerry Mooc]

We'Re shaking things up.

[Francis Ellis]

Well, does that mean that you will relinquish the marketing?

[Jerry Mooc]

No, that's the thing. Well, this is actually. Honestly, I probably shouldn't even be talking about this. This is all behind the scenes stuff. But no, we're trying to do. We want to do something where it would be like, there's like, obviously we want Barstool to still be involved.

[Ronan Farrow]

That's so nice of you. So like as like a charity, like you're looking out.

[Jerry Mooc]

No, we want it to be a team effort, you know?

[Ronan Farrow]

Right. Like you're still gonna let.

[Jerry Mooc]

But like I'm pay. Like I had to pay out of like I. There's already shit that I gotta pay for out of pocket.

[Ronan Farrow]

Right.

[Jerry Mooc]

That's why we're trying to get this Worked out so that.

[Ronan Farrow]

So you're gonna need funding instead of expensing it. We're gonna be like you. You actually owe us.

[Jerry Mooc]

Well, we can't expend. This is in no way something that I could expense.

[Francis Ellis]

Why. Why don't you come to people like me? I'd be willing to invest.

[Jerry Mooc]

We. This is a conversation that we're having literally after this show.

[Ronan Farrow]

Why don't you come to people like me?

[Jerry Mooc]

Keep your ringer on tonight.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Ronan and I will each come in.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. You're also going to be getting a call tonight.

[Ronan Farrow]

What are we talking?

[Francis Ellis]

A lot of calls.

[Jerry Mooc]

They're going to be talking. We're going to need a lot of money.

[Francis Ellis]

I will give you $10,000 for 10 phone calls from you a week.

[Ronan Farrow]

And 10%.

[Jerry Mooc]

That's a lot of phone calls a week.

[Francis Ellis]

Spend 30 minutes on the phone with me. That's more than 20 times a week.

[Jerry Mooc]

That means that there's a couple of times where we're doing three a day.

[Francis Ellis]

We got to talk about Bush. I'm now. I'm now a big shareholder.

[Jerry Mooc]

You got to keep the board happy.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm on the board.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

I want a board seat.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah. So how much?

[Francis Ellis]

What.

[Ronan Farrow]

What kind of equity are you offering.

[Jerry Mooc]

Me and Francis right now? Best I could do is 5%. 10 GS?

[Ronan Farrow]

No, it's got to be between 9 and 11 if we're going to be involved with Bush.

[Francis Ellis]

Well, that. Again, your valuations are now all over the map. If you're saying 5% for 10 GS, doesn't that mean you're valuing the company at 200,000 dol. Dollars right now?

[Jerry Mooc]

Where are these numbers coming from right now? We wouldn't really say we have a value. We don't. We don't really think that.

[Ronan Farrow]

Exactly. So let's make it $5,000 for 25%.

[Jerry Mooc]

Well, but. But when we ask for funding, we're gonna need a lot more money than that. So, like, we don't. The problem is we can't get into rev. We can't get into equity and stuff right now because we need to. We need the company back first.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, I understand that.

[Ronan Farrow]

So should I just. We should go to Dave.

[Francis Ellis]

We could do.

[Jerry Mooc]

And what are you guys gonna say?

[Ronan Farrow]

We won't put. We want five. $5,000 for a little part of the company.

[Jerry Mooc]

For a little part of Barstool or.

[Francis Ellis]

No, from Dave. From Dave.

[Jerry Mooc]

You're gonna buy it from him.

[Francis Ellis]

We're gonna buy it from Dave. We'll slowly divest him of his shares. And then now we've created what you wanted. Wouldn't you rap? Would you rather have the company in the hands of us or more Dave?

[Jerry Mooc]

Dave for sure.

[Francis Ellis]

Really?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Dave won't even pick up your phone calls.

[Jerry Mooc]

No, he won't. But if it's an either or I. If it. If it's between, those are the two options.

[Ronan Farrow]

No, no, it's Dave or. Or nobody.

[Jerry Mooc]

It sounds like it's Dave or you two.

[Ronan Farrow]

Well, either way, it's not you.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. So in that scenario, I'm gonna say.

[Ronan Farrow]

So it's either Dave and nobody or us and you or.

[Jerry Mooc]

Or us three.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, I mean, yeah, okay.

[Jerry Mooc]

Or that. That's one of the options.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, I think we go 20%. 20%. 20%.

[Jerry Mooc]

What the hell are you guys getting? 20%.

[Francis Ellis]

20% to Jerry. Well, first of all, think about the promotion value of the two of us.

[Jerry Mooc]

Okay.

[Francis Ellis]

You know, we've got a lot of followers and this is the most.

[Jerry Mooc]

But this is where this is specifically we're talking.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm gonna right now pumping bush. I'm going to be absolutely creaming.

[Jerry Mooc]

If that's. I mean, if that's true. If you're going to be like a live or die by the bush kind of gu. Then yeah, we'll definitely.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm diving face first into some bush with my Instagram, Twitter and TikTok.

[Jerry Mooc]

This is great news. The fellows are going to be. They're going to love this look because.

[Francis Ellis]

Your success is my success now that I own 20% of the company.

[Jerry Mooc]

How much of son of a boy dad do you guys own?

[Ronan Farrow]

33%. 33%. 33%.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, I have 75 right now.

[Francis Ellis]

Fairly sure I do not.

[Jerry Mooc]

What would you guys do if you found out that I was. I've just been. I've had a rev share the whole time. Yeah, why don't you do Fiori again? As I'm just printing cash, it's going straight to my account.

[Ronan Farrow]

You don't care about smoking the first class list because you're just. It's coming out of your own pocket.

[Jerry Mooc]

I mean that like that happens with podcasts all the time.

[Ronan Farrow]

You own the entire thing the entire time.

[Francis Ellis]

What do you got in that bag there? This.

[Jerry Mooc]

What is this?

[Francis Ellis]

Rounds?

[Ronan Farrow]

No.

[Francis Ellis]

What's that? What do you got in there?

[Jerry Mooc]

It's not from. It's not mine. I've never seen that bag in my entire life.

[Ronan Farrow]

Your fingerprints are all over it. What are you talking about?

[Francis Ellis]

Seem to recall you.

[Jerry Mooc]

You know what was.

[Ronan Farrow]

You're picking it up like you knew exactly what the weight was. That's clearly that you had lifted that bag before.

[Jerry Mooc]

Now I was gonna say, though, have you guys this morning I was walking. I was. Or no, I wasn't walking.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, shit.

[Jerry Mooc]

This morning. This morning I was standing at my window, I was walking.

[Francis Ellis]

No, wait, that couldn't have been today.

[Jerry Mooc]

Someone else was walking.

[Francis Ellis]

That was yesterday. I did walk yesterday.

[Jerry Mooc]

This morning I was getting ready and I was looking out my window. Guess who's walking right up my street?

[Francis Ellis]

Emily.

[Jerry Mooc]

Bradley Cooper. Cheese in ear to ear, just smiling his ass off.

[Francis Ellis]

Come on.

[Jerry Mooc]

I think that guy's People say main character syndrome. He's got it. He looked like he was mid film.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, but he is a main character. He's the main character, so I don't fault him.

[Jerry Mooc]

It was. It was like I saw him and I knew it was a celebrity before I even saw his face.

[Francis Ellis]

I've met people like that.

[Jerry Mooc]

He had like the fit. Looked like he. Someone picked that fit out for him this morning. A professional, most likely.

[Francis Ellis]

He dresses really well and he had like.

[Jerry Mooc]

He had like over ear apple headphones on. And then I got a closer look and it was just Cooper Coops just smiling ear to earth. He was having a great morning.

[Francis Ellis]

Do you know that he's Alex Cooper's uncle?

[Jerry Mooc]

I did, yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Checkmate.

[Francis Ellis]

Well played.

[Ronan Farrow]

Checkmate on the.

[Francis Ellis]

You won. You won that Dikembe Mutumbo. Me?

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, no, no.

[Francis Ellis]

Thought I had a shot there.

[Ronan Farrow]

I mean, that's just a friendly neighborhood cheesesteak operator.

[Jerry Mooc]

I know. I tried to take a photo of him, but he got away.

[Ronan Farrow]

Have you guys been to Danny and Coops?

[Francis Ellis]

He escaped to what?

[Ronan Farrow]

Danny and Coops.

[Francis Ellis]

He started a cheesesteak spot, right?

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, I heard it's amazing.

[Francis Ellis]

Really? That makes sense.

[Jerry Mooc]

I've heard it's good. I've heard that Pavs when. And he went and Bradley Cooper was working behind the counter.

[Ronan Farrow]

That's what I mean. Like, he's like chopping. He's like sweating.

[Jerry Mooc]

Have you ever made a cheesesteak? Have you ever had a job where you had to make a cheesesteak? That was one of your sandwiches. Oh, man. I worked at a sandwich place and we used to make cheesesteaks. They're pretty easy to make and they're fun.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, I guess I have a job. You chop the fuck out of.

[Jerry Mooc]

You just smash them around for like 15 minutes and then throw it into a roll.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Pre chewed food basically.

[Jerry Mooc]

Exactly. We had our cheesesteaks. They were. They were weighed out pre. So like we would get the big thing of steak. And then they would cut it. They would put it into little tiny plastic bags and be like, this is the cheese steak. This is the steak for one cheesesteak. Nasty as they ever. You'd go into the freezer and there's just individual little baggies of meat. It's gross.

[Francis Ellis]

Why?

[Jerry Mooc]

Just is. It's a little peek behind the curtain.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm not certain that I have a problem with that.

[Jerry Mooc]

You would if you worked there.

[Francis Ellis]

It's a portion control thing.

[Jerry Mooc]

It's nasty.

[Ronan Farrow]

You think meals.

[Jerry Mooc]

Someone's handing those things up before they're putting it in the bag, and then it's sitting in that bag.

[Ronan Farrow]

That's every piece of food you get at a restaurant. True, people are handing it up, but.

[Jerry Mooc]

This was a shitty restaurant. This was a.

[Ronan Farrow]

At a lot of cheesesteak places, they separate it with some wax paper. So you just slap the wax paper on the grill.

[Jerry Mooc]

Interesting groon.

[Francis Ellis]

I feel bad that you have to talk.

[Ronan Farrow]

It sounds so shitty.

[Francis Ellis]

Well, it's not that. It's not that it sounds bad. I just want to save you.

[Ronan Farrow]

Is that it Sounds so bad.

[Jerry Mooc]

Sounds painful.

[Francis Ellis]

We can. We can if you want to chill, you know, we can talk.

[Ronan Farrow]

I'll shut the up.

[Francis Ellis]

No, I'm not telling you to shut the up. No, no, no, no, no. I would never do that. I just. I can feel the pain. Is it painful?

[Ronan Farrow]

No.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, then never mind.

[Ronan Farrow]

It just sounds bad.

[Guest/Interjection]

No.

[Ronan Farrow]

No, you don't.

[Francis Ellis]

I don't.

[Ronan Farrow]

It really was for you.

[Francis Ellis]

No, my throat didn't. My voice didn't go. It just. I had deep, searing pain in my. On the right side of my esophagus, and it came from eating too many Sour patch Kids. No, I swear to God, I don't know what happened.

[Ronan Farrow]

What the fuck?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, I had a problem.

[Jerry Mooc]

You try any water? Because I'm seeing a lot of drinks around you that aren't water.

[Ronan Farrow]

I've been drinking. I. I just chugged three waters while we were shooting that thing downstairs.

[Francis Ellis]

More?

[Ronan Farrow]

Huh?

[Jerry Mooc]

You need more?

[Ronan Farrow]

I've been having three teas a day. Three waters. I'm chugging. Honey, I'm having that.

[Jerry Mooc]

Ain't it.

[Ronan Farrow]

Mucinex, Tylenol.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't think three waters counts Nyquil. If you match the three waters with three weed drinks.

[Ronan Farrow]

You just gave me this weed drink, and then suddenly you're trying to, like, chastise me for it?

[Jerry Mooc]

No, I did not.

[Ronan Farrow]

What's in the bag, then? Empty the B bag.

[Francis Ellis]

Can I see the back?

[Ronan Farrow]

There's.

[Jerry Mooc]

It's not my bag. I'VE never seen that bag in my entire.

[Francis Ellis]

It's my bag. May I have it?

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, give it to him.

[Francis Ellis]

I. I'd like my bag, right? May I have my bag, please?

[Ronan Farrow]

Exactly.

[Francis Ellis]

Let me have my bag.

[Jerry Mooc]

You're not touching my bag. But there's. The only thing that's in the bag is Phoenix energy drinks.

[Ronan Farrow]

That's a lie. I see a Stella Blue popping out the top.

[Jerry Mooc]

Me and Dave are thinking about doing like a one for one. Like, I'll throw him 50 of Bush. He throws me 50 of Phoenix.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, yeah. A little equity trade.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. Little trade off. Just a little friendly banter.

[Francis Ellis]

Bush swap. Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

A little High Noon maybe sprinkled in.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, that would be. That would be very nice.

[Ronan Farrow]

High Noon for the white people.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't know if we deserve that.

[Ronan Farrow]

When people do a High Noon ad, are they getting paid by High Noon? For example, it was on Brianna chicken fries story the other day. A picture of her tagging a High Noon. Is she getting paid for that?

[Jerry Mooc]

That's above my.

[Francis Ellis]

I would think so. And I love how frequently you bring up Brianna chicken fry.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, yeah. My eyes on the sparrow, my boy.

[Francis Ellis]

She's your great white buffalo.

[Ronan Farrow]

I see her do something. I'm like, I want for. For me what God did for her.

[Francis Ellis]

I don't, I don't. Those things don't pop up for me. I. I follow her. I always see her still, like, obviously not that closely. Photos. She's always posting great photos. She's kind of like, I don't know, they're always like, they look like album covers.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

They're cool. They're highly produced. They're moody. There's like a pool table and some red fucking linen behind it for some reason. Like, where did she even find that room?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. I wonder that a lot about certain. I wonder if certain people that are like influencers, if they're like, if their day to day is just like photo shoots all day.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

Because everyone like these people, they're every day they got a new like 4K professional photo. The dump that they're putting.

[Francis Ellis]

You know what? I'll tell you the art of throwing up just like seven or eight Instagram stories or these carousel photos has, has really. I've started to learn the people that I think actually have taste and how they curate these things.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Because there's like always like a picture of the side of a church.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Like the corner of a sandwich.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And then there's like a stoop with three pumpkins on it. And then there's like Their drink that they had at a bar. And then there's, like, a candle, you.

[Ronan Farrow]

Know, and it's their breasts.

[Francis Ellis]

Random shit. And then. Yeah, like, one selfie of me. You know, whatever. But I'll tell you, you can. You can learn a lot about the type of person based on the. What they're posting.

[Ronan Farrow]

Their dumps.

[Jerry Mooc]

Their dumps.

[Francis Ellis]

The stool sample in those dumps. Yes. You can sift through that dump.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

You get some fine tooth comb.

[Ronan Farrow]

Jurassic Park.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, there's a little kernel of cloud.

[Ronan Farrow]

Like, elbow deep in the dump.

[Francis Ellis]

There's a little nugget of. Of. Of taste.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't love the carousel as much as I used to. I think it's like, people are putting, like, 40 photos in there now.

[Francis Ellis]

That's all right.

[Jerry Mooc]

You can't just.

[Ronan Farrow]

Can't do it all. You just don't have the. Like, you don't have the eye for it.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't.

[Francis Ellis]

I have a friend who has lost his mind.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, yeah?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

What happened?

[Francis Ellis]

And I know this because of what he started posting on Instagram. Have you ever had this?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

You have a friend that, like, all of a sudden, it happens slowly at first, and then after a couple of weeks, you're like, holy shit, dude. You've got nine stories of your cat. 9.

[Jerry Mooc]

I've seen it happen to a couple of people.

[Francis Ellis]

I have a friend who has fully lost it.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

And by the way, I don't. I know he doesn't listen to this because I think he's sworn off technology.

[Ronan Farrow]

Of all kinds, but he might be reading the transcript.

[Francis Ellis]

Could well be.

[Ronan Farrow]

At which point he's fucking furious.

[Jerry Mooc]

Maybe at this point he's not happy.

[Francis Ellis]

But I also think he's like, this.

[Ronan Farrow]

Can'T be about me.

[Francis Ellis]

I think he's adopted a new religion that preaches pacifism. Maybe. But either way, this is a guy who, you know, has really kind of gone off the reservation a little bit.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

And so he's Native American.

[Francis Ellis]

It's through. Yeah. But he's trying to convert to white.

[Ronan Farrow]

The packed. The historically pacifist white people. That's one thing I know about us. We hate a war. Damn. So what else is he posting, brother?

[Francis Ellis]

It's more like. What isn't he posting?

[Jerry Mooc]

Is it like a Liver King situation where he's, like, breaking down?

[Francis Ellis]

I don't know what happened to Liver King.

[Ronan Farrow]

One day he just started posting.

[Jerry Mooc]

He started posting? Yeah, pretty much this dude will throw up that he was gonna kill his family.

[Francis Ellis]

So many Instagram stories that the. The.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, it's A dot.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, it's a dot.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Of one slide to the next.

[Jerry Mooc]

That's like. When I see that, it's like sometimes I just think. I'm like, you got to keep some of those thoughts in your head. Not everything has to go, you know.

[Francis Ellis]

No, but all. Some. Somehow I get to the end of them all.

[Ronan Farrow]

Are those people using it as their dating pool?

[Francis Ellis]

No, this guy is not. He's not. I don't think he's dating. I don't know. He. That is not what he's doing.

[Ronan Farrow]

I am dating, but he's so. He's not using technology. But he's posting on Instagram.

[Francis Ellis]

He is using technology. I'm trying to think. I mean, I. I don't. It's not like I've talked to him and how is he?

[Jerry Mooc]

Is he all there?

[Francis Ellis]

He does. He's. Well, when you talk to him, he's. I'm like, why are you doing this?

[Jerry Mooc]

And what does he say?

[Francis Ellis]

He's like, oh, I was just, you know, having fun with it.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, that's no good. When they're having. When someone starts having fun with social media, that means their life is ending.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, you got to get in contact with his parents. Hey, your kids having fun with.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, I'm just. Just making Instagram casual again, you know, just kind of getting everything out there.

[Ronan Farrow]

You don't need it all out there.

[Jerry Mooc]

Every minute of every day.

[Ronan Farrow]

But people do. They put it every. Put it all out there. We have co workers who do it. I guess it's kind of our job. No, I mean, like, you could see how it was like, oh, it's my job to post a lot.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not everything. Not most things, to be honest.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, they're lying about some stuff. They're not posting, like, the fights with their, like, significant other and like that.

[Jerry Mooc]

Or you saw that. You see that video of Zoron dancing at a club and then it was like, it cuts. There's like a cut in the middle and someone was like, what could they possibly have cut? It's like him at a club and he's dancing and then it just like the next one, it's like he's like. It's like into another dance move. But it clearly was cute. I was like, what? What? What? In that two second time period, what did he do?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, yeah, that.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, I bet that is what it was.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, I bet that's what it was.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, I bet that's what it was first because his hands were all up.

[Ronan Farrow]

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[Francis Ellis]

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[Ronan Farrow]

It's kind of like yesterday's balloon animal.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. People were like, I thought you were on the road to war. I thought you were in the best shape of your life. And I'm like, I am, but I'm not able to regenerate that quickly. Why are you putting this type of pressure on me?

[Ronan Farrow]

But Rose Sparks makes it feel like you ate the heart of a black bear.

[Francis Ellis]

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[Jerry Mooc]

Alrighty. Let's talk about Simplisafe. Is your home actually safe if you have old school home security? Traditional security systems respond after someone breaks in. Simplisafe is different because it can stop crimes before they happen. With its active guard outdoor protection AI powered cameras detect threats while they are still outside your home and alert real security agents. This is a game changer. The agents take the act, take action while the intruder is still outside. They confront the intruder. This is sick. They confront the intruder, letting them know they're being watched on camera and the police are on their way. And even sounding a loud siren and triggering a spotlight if needed. I gotta get this. I want to get this for my apartment. This is how you stop a crime before it starts. Other systems have cameras that let you talk to intruders, but they require you to see the alert yourself. Simplisafe's monitoring agents have your back and talk to intruders even if they aren't there. Do you guys have any. Do you guys have this? You guys have this?

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah. It's so good. It's so good.

[Jerry Mooc]

I like it. I love it. And I, I don't, I don't have one personally, but I want one. I want it. Don't miss out on Simply Safe's biggest sale of the year. 60% off. Right now our listeners can save 60 off on Simply Safe home security [e-mail] sun that's simply safe.com Sun do you guys have this? There's no safe like Simple Safe. It says share how Simplisafe protects your home. And I was like, is this a. I don't know who has it. That's a. That's a pretty bold one to be like and talk about how you use the product to yourself.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, they did. Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

Also, it didn't make sense when it said Simply Safe talks to the intruders while they're not there. What are they? They're in touch with them. Prior. Yeah, you better not. Better not pull up to this house.

[Francis Ellis]

Man. I hit a hard workout this morning.

[Jerry Mooc]

What'd you hit?

[Francis Ellis]

Hit it, dude.

[Jerry Mooc]

What didn't you hit? I guess is a better question I took. And what were you listening to?

[Francis Ellis]

20 pop smoke and Da Baby.

[Jerry Mooc]

I've been big on Lil Baby these last couple days.

[Francis Ellis]

I like Da Baby.

[Jerry Mooc]

I think Lil Baby might be the truth. Da Baby gets a little repetitive.

[Francis Ellis]

Really?

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, he has the same rhythm.

[Jerry Mooc]

He's the same rhythm in every song.

[Francis Ellis]

I like Da, but I. I like pop as well.

[Jerry Mooc]

Pop's good. Lil is good as well.

[Francis Ellis]

Which one?

[Jerry Mooc]

Lil Baby.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, right. Okay.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, I've been listening to Olivia Dean a lot.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, my God, me too.

[Ronan Farrow]

The best.

[Francis Ellis]

Top to bottom. That new album is un believable. The final song, she slows it down.

[Ronan Farrow]

She's amazing.

[Francis Ellis]

It was just like the guitar.

[Ronan Farrow]

You guys are in the rap world. I just can't relate. I'm on Olivia.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm crossing over.

[Jerry Mooc]

All I'm listening to is hip hop these days.

[Ronan Farrow]

But he's listening to pop smoke. Where are you respecting pop smoke? When was the last time you respected pop smoke at all?

[Francis Ellis]

I don't know.

[Jerry Mooc]

To be honest, I never got into pop smoke. If I'm being.

[Francis Ellis]

If I'm being frank, can I tell you about the workout? I gotta tell you the. Because when you put on some pop. When you put on some pop, you do things that your body did not expect.

[Jerry Mooc]

You wait till you put on some little baby, you'll play a little baby and you'll say, maybe I shouldn't play Lil Baby. Yeah, because this is getting dangerous.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm setting pr. I took. I did my. I did my whatever, five minute warm up. And then.

[Jerry Mooc]

Come on, hit us with the one.

[Francis Ellis]

I just do this, don't leave anything. I like that. And then I do dynamic stretching for a bit. But I went. Went back to my thing of doing five burpees, five pull ups, every minute on the minute, trying to get to 10. Man, I'm having a hard time with it. I got to seven this time. My record's eight. And I just couldn't after seven this time. I couldn't.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, couldn't go on.

[Francis Ellis]

I couldn't get back up on the bar. The burpees aren't the problem. The pull ups are the problem.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

But then after that, I took two 22 pound kettlebells, one in each hand, and I did single leg. You guys will like this.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, Romanian deadlifts.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, yeah. Love those, love those.

[Ronan Farrow]

That must be good for the hip flexor.

[Francis Ellis]

It's Good for your hamstring strength. It's good for your balance. I. On each side, balance and. Yeah. You ever work on your balance?

[Ronan Farrow]

What do you know about balance?

[Jerry Mooc]

No, but it's good because I was gonna say we got to be balanced on the river this week. Yeah, I don't want anyone taking a spill.

[Ronan Farrow]

No, I'm gonna be floating down the river like Ralph Wiggum.

[Jerry Mooc]

You better not be. Better not.

[Ronan Farrow]

I am, dude. I have bad balance. I need to be doing my single leg Romanian deadlifts.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, you got to try those because those. Those will SAP you. I mean, I walked up the stairs today and I needed to a break. That's not too many stairs.

[Jerry Mooc]

No, but that's a tough.

[Ronan Farrow]

That's a weirdly tough staircase. Well, I don't know why the. The curves always get my heart going. I feel like I'm in a corn maze.

[Jerry Mooc]

The staircase here.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, man.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, sorry, I didn't realize. I'm talking to Greg Lamond over here.

[Jerry Mooc]

Because you guys don't walk up. You guys both live on like, you're the 30th floor of your building. What's the only stairs you got to walk up all day?

[Ronan Farrow]

That's true. I'm an elevator rider.

[Francis Ellis]

You live on the second floor.

[Jerry Mooc]

You wouldn't know what that's like though, would you?

[Francis Ellis]

I lived on a fifth floor walk up for the first. So did five years. I lived in New York.

[Jerry Mooc]

Then we lived in West Village. Or we lived in our old apartment.

[Ronan Farrow]

It was.

[Jerry Mooc]

It was a fifth floor walk up, but it was actually the sixth floor if you count the fucking stairs up to the building.

[Francis Ellis]

It's funny, dude. The. When you're young, I remember like going down out of my apartment and being like, oh, shoot, I forgot something.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, it's the.

[Francis Ellis]

And then I would just bound rent back up to the top.

[Jerry Mooc]

I think the worst part about living on a walk up like that is the. Is moving out.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

Or in. In is pretty bad too, because we didn't have an elevator. No elevator. So he's got to carry everything up five floors.

[Ronan Farrow]

But you're saying now you forget something upstairs. It's like, hey, I'll get it tomorrow.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm not going back.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Not dealing with the. The door, the elevator, doorman, any of that stuff. Tell me this.

[Ronan Farrow]

You boys engage your core when you go up steps?

[Jerry Mooc]

No.

[Francis Ellis]

No.

[Jerry Mooc]

Do you.

[Ronan Farrow]

You got to try it.

[Francis Ellis]

My core audience. Yeah, like Instagram story. Hey, everybody.

[Jerry Mooc]

No, I never have ever even considered that.

[Ronan Farrow]

You try it.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'll give it a try. What is the point?

[Ronan Farrow]

It just. It really isos your legs.

[Jerry Mooc]

Interesting.

[Francis Ellis]

My dad did a bit my whole life. My dad did bits, he ran bits. And he always. He had about seven bits that he just did for 30 years.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, of course.

[Francis Ellis]

And one of his bits was that every time we'd get in an elevator, he would say, bend your knees. And the reason behind this, his reasoning was that if the elevator fell when we crashed into the bottom of the earth, if your knees were locked.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

You wouldn't absorb the shock.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Whereas if your legs were bent, you'd somehow survive it.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

And he would do this when other people were in the elevator to embarrass.

[Ronan Farrow]

Us as a bit.

[Francis Ellis]

As a bit. He'd be. We'd get in and we'd be going up and he'd go, bend your knees. Bend his knees. And then the people would look at him and, yeah, that's pretty. Give him a giggle. But they didn't know.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

They didn't know why you guys were preparing. He was making that joke and. Because he was making them nervous and they would laugh. Right. He thought the bit was working.

[Jerry Mooc]

Sounds like it was killing, to be honest.

[Francis Ellis]

It's. It's a terrible bit.

[Jerry Mooc]

It's a great bit.

[Francis Ellis]

It's a terrible bit. I don't even. You have to know, I actually might.

[Jerry Mooc]

Start using that one myself.

[Francis Ellis]

I would hope that you would.

[Jerry Mooc]

I might try that out.

[Francis Ellis]

Carry on his legacy.

[Ronan Farrow]

Get some nervous laughs. Laughs or laughs.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, Laughs or laughs.

[Francis Ellis]

Have I told you the other, his big, his most reliable bit?

[Jerry Mooc]

The grand Slam.

[Francis Ellis]

The grand slam.

[Jerry Mooc]

Let's hear it.

[Francis Ellis]

Is when a waitress comes over.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, I already don't like where this is heading.

[Francis Ellis]

At the end of the dinner or the meal and she's handing the bill or whatever to someone, he would point to me and go, my father's paying.

[Jerry Mooc]

Ah, that's actually pretty funny. I like that.

[Ronan Farrow]

That is a good.

[Jerry Mooc]

I bet that always worked.

[Francis Ellis]

It works because they laugh because they want a tip.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. Laughs. A laugh.

[Francis Ellis]

Come on.

[Jerry Mooc]

A laugh is a laugh. I would laugh if someone said that to me.

[Francis Ellis]

Did I tell you that when I became a comedian, it made my dad feel that he had had this funny thing in him all along.

[Ronan Farrow]

I mean, he did. You were swimming around with some jokes in his ball.

[Francis Ellis]

It cranked his efforts to be funny. Like, he started shooting, you know, scatter shot. He's like, well, I just missed my calling. Clearly, it's in me.

[Jerry Mooc]

Does he send you genetically?

[Francis Ellis]

I had the ability to do this. I just. I didn't do it. But my son's doing it. So I now I'm going to catch up now that I'm retired from my first gig. Like, I'm gonna lean into this.

[Jerry Mooc]

Get into comedy.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, he's. He's throwing bits around.

[Jerry Mooc]

Does he text you, like joke ideas?

[Francis Ellis]

Not really, no. But he does text me. I mean, you guys would probably. I think my dad would like you guys both, as his sons more than he likes me.

[Ronan Farrow]

That's definitely not true.

[Francis Ellis]

I think so. And I'll tell you why. Because my dad loves ball. Of course he loves ball.

[Jerry Mooc]

Everyone loves ball.

[Francis Ellis]

Loves the Giants.

[Ronan Farrow]

So did you reject ball as like a rebellious act?

[Francis Ellis]

It's not that I rejected it. I just. It hasn't quite caught me the way that it caught him.

[Jerry Mooc]

Better because you're doing the whiteboard this.

[Francis Ellis]

Week my dad sent me, so I.

[Jerry Mooc]

Need you to lock it in.

[Francis Ellis]

My dad sent me an email. No subject. And here's all the email says. Teams with first round choices should trade them for multiple second and third round draft choices. Everyone gets hurt. Barkley, Beckham, Daniel Jones, Andrew Thomas, neighbors. They have all missed half of their games in their first three years. Draft more second and third round players who are very good. A team stocked with lots of good players will beat a team with four superstars because those four will get injured, get a superstar in free agent market. Lots of good players and a great qb, which we now have.

[Ronan Farrow]

But they got him in the first round.

[Francis Ellis]

He thinks I work for the Giants.

[Jerry Mooc]

That is what that sounded like. He sent that just to you?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

That's awesome. He's already walked the in. Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

He is dialed.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

He watched the game with like a clipboard out, like taking notes.

[Francis Ellis]

What he'll do, what he'll do is because he'll usually have house chores on like Sunday.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

In the morning. So he goes out into the woods and like, you know, saws down dead trees with his chainsaw and hauls. Does a brush fire. That's usually what we had to do on Sundays.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

And then he'll go in and start the game a little late. But he's recording it so he could skip commercials. So he can skip commercials. But he will then throw his phone across the room so that he can't have the game spoiled for him. So I'll call my parents at like 6pm sometimes on Sunday and they'll be like, don't tell us about the game. We're in the first quarter. Yeah, like that started five hours ago.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, my parents do the same thing. My Parents always record. I don't know if they do it as much as anymore, but when I was growing up, that would be like a constant. My dad like, my dad calling and being like, start recording the Red Sox game now. And you're like, I don't have no clue how to do that. And you gotta like choose something to record over. Yeah, like a Jeopardy episode.

[Ronan Farrow]

It's always a Jeopardy. I have every Jeopardy for the last three years saved on my cable. I just set the auto record. Yeah, it's fun to jump in. You can fast forward. You watch 10 Jeopardy episodes in an hour.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh yeah, I go. I watch the YouTube jeopardies. It's just question that. They just, they just don't stop zoom.

[Ronan Farrow]

Over the stupid that are like one time I went on a boat trip. No one wants to hear your anecdote.

[Jerry Mooc]

We just want trivia.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, give me some homonyms.

[Jerry Mooc]

Trivia might be the longest lasting game.

[Ronan Farrow]

You guys want to watch Jeopardy. Tomorrow night? And let's, we'll, we'll. We'll see who can score the most Jeopardy points.

[Francis Ellis]

I mean we can do that.

[Jerry Mooc]

I just don't know.

[Francis Ellis]

I don't know how whatever's in that bag is going to hit me.

[Jerry Mooc]

That sounds like it's just going to make me look like a.

[Ronan Farrow]

So now you get, now you get what we do.

[Jerry Mooc]

I think actually Alexander was the king of that village that no one's heard of at that specific period of time that probably didn't exist.

[Francis Ellis]

You know, you say that and yet but I don't know.

[Jerry Mooc]

I just don't know land I don't know little facts like that.

[Ronan Farrow]

No, you're just pretending to be stupid. Even though you're very smart.

[Francis Ellis]

You gotta preserve this image of a genius of this brilliant sharp.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm aware that I'm a freak genius.

[Francis Ellis]

You look like we need to not let you have any sharp objects.

[Ronan Farrow]

I'm just how you're dressed. Yeah, you're dressed like you're.

[Jerry Mooc]

Comfortable. Furloughed out of the local thick denim on weighing you down all day.

[Ronan Farrow]

Not thick denim.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm active stiff.

[Ronan Farrow]

I could turn the car mine more flowy than yours. You. You have come crust on yours.

[Francis Ellis]

You're wearing pajamas.

[Jerry Mooc]

I am.

[Francis Ellis]

You're wearing clothes you'd. You'd wear if you had a cold.

[Jerry Mooc]

It was a plan today. You know, I, I woke up and I said do I want to go khakis? And I said I haven't. I haven't worn sweatpants out in a.

[Ronan Farrow]

While in a day.

[Francis Ellis]

It's it's that they're. They're the same color as the sweatshirt.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, but who gives a about that? You're wearing this. You're wearing all black.

[Francis Ellis]

This is charcoal. The socks are cream. We already talked about it.

[Jerry Mooc]

And this is a lighter navy. This is a faded. This is a faded navy, and this is a dark blue.

[Francis Ellis]

Tell me where dark blue isn't navy.

[Jerry Mooc]

It's a different palette.

[Ronan Farrow]

Those are both navy. Come on, Sass. They're both navy.

[Jerry Mooc]

No, this is a faded navy.

[Francis Ellis]

You look like Rocky's unsuccessful nephew.

[Ronan Farrow]

You do.

[Francis Ellis]

You're gonna train for a fight. Nobody gives a chance.

[Jerry Mooc]

All right, well, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go run up a staircase after this.

[Francis Ellis]

No, you're not. I remember when you got those sneakers.

[Jerry Mooc]

Why? I can't run in my sambas.

[Francis Ellis]

We already talked about stairs. You've had enough stairs for the day.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm gonna go run on a turf inside.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, I remember when you got those. Remember that?

[Jerry Mooc]

Of course. In Cleveland.

[Francis Ellis]

Cleveland.

[Ronan Farrow]

I remember when you got those. Sandro Fall 2025.

[Francis Ellis]

These shoes. Yeah, yeah. These are from Ven Space, which sells those awesome boots that you have that I want to get too.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, the pair of boots.

[Francis Ellis]

The pair of boots.

[Ronan Farrow]

The avorias.

[Jerry Mooc]

What are you guys thinking for. For foot. For footwear this week? Fish week?

[Ronan Farrow]

What should I wear? Like, can you guys tell me exactly what, what to bring? Because I feel like I'm gonna be like in some sweatpants or something and you're gonna be like, why the would you wear that?

[Jerry Mooc]

I mean, only thing that is that you will need is if you guys buy waiters. You're going to need boots for the waiters.

[Ronan Farrow]

What shoes should I wear?

[Jerry Mooc]

If you don't want to buy fishing shoes, just wear a pair of beat up shoes that you don't give a fuck about.

[Ronan Farrow]

Could I. Oh, if I had like duck boots, I could have worn those. I don't have those with me though.

[Francis Ellis]

We need proper attire. We need. We can't have anything potentially inhibiting our ability to catch fish.

[Ronan Farrow]

We have to look sick for this video too.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Ronan Farrow]

What, like, what would someone wear to fishing that makes them look like a Benny or like a.

[Francis Ellis]

Like they don't know a Jerry?

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, Jerry.

[Francis Ellis]

Like on the ski slopes, like a Jersey Jerry.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't know. I don't know. For fly fishing? I don't know. Honestly, it's like the last gear you have, the more of a Jerry you are.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, really?

[Jerry Mooc]

It's like if you're. If You. You want to look like you're about to go, like, raid drug den as a swat, and you're, like, in swat.

[Ronan Farrow]

So I should wear my ice gear?

[Jerry Mooc]

Pretty much, yeah. Like, you want, like, goggles, like, fingerless gloves?

[Francis Ellis]

Do you know that my neck. My neck has a magnet that hooks it to the back of my pack, My fish pond pack? You mean the net that was given to me that I let you have?

[Jerry Mooc]

No, I have a net that also has a magnet on it.

[Francis Ellis]

And what are you. Are you going pack or vest?

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm going pack.

[Francis Ellis]

You're going pack?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Cool.

[Jerry Mooc]

Well, I'm. But I'm the guide, so I kind of need my pack. I need my gear.

[Francis Ellis]

People say we. That the whole industry has moved away from vests and more into packs.

[Jerry Mooc]

That's. That's correct. I have a vest, though, if anyone wants it.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, I think I want it. We need to drop a bag at Orvis.

[Francis Ellis]

We're going nuts. We're gonna go butt.

[Jerry Mooc]

You don't want to walk.

[Ronan Farrow]

We're gonna spend however much Dave was going to pay for Bush.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't know if you want to walk into an Orvis with the idea.

[Ronan Farrow]

That we're taking that money, a lot.

[Jerry Mooc]

Of money at Orvis.

[Ronan Farrow]

Why?

[Jerry Mooc]

Because you're going to walk in there, you're going to spend a lot of money regardless. Everything is so expensive.

[Ronan Farrow]

Really?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

So even if we play it. If we play it tight, we're still gonna fucking burn it down.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. I mean, how much did all that shit cost when you went to that fly shop?

[Francis Ellis]

Well, I bought a reel, I bought a pack, I bought leader, I bought line, I bought the net.

[Jerry Mooc]

You have all that shit still?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, that's all upstate. Unfortunately, I bought it all, like, a week before the fish pond people hooked everything up.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

But now we have two.

[Francis Ellis]

We have a little. We have some duplicates so that when, you know, I break my net over your skull because I tied the wr long, you've been giving me woolly buggers. And we all know they're biting nymphs. And you've just been.

[Jerry Mooc]

You boys are fishing exclusively woolly buggers.

[Ronan Farrow]

No. Come on, bro. Where's all those flies that bro sent us?

[Francis Ellis]

Francis, I got those.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, you do?

[Francis Ellis]

I'll bring those.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, we need those.

[Jerry Mooc]

I already got you. I've already got a setup for you guys that'll work.

[Ronan Farrow]

Don't put training wheels on me.

[Jerry Mooc]

You're getting the biggest training wheels.

[Ronan Farrow]

Let me have some fun.

[Jerry Mooc]

You'll have fun.

[Ronan Farrow]

Just bring whatever's in that bag and some fun.

[Francis Ellis]

Should we bring a guide?

[Guest/Interjection]

No.

[Francis Ellis]

You sure?

[Jerry Mooc]

Diy. I only do diy.

[Francis Ellis]

Okay.

[Ronan Farrow]

I'm with that because then if it's all. If we up, it's on you. A God. A God guarantees us like some. We're gonna catch something. We're eating good. If. If you up.

[Jerry Mooc]

I mean, I've gotta ruin the trip. I'm probably going to.

[Francis Ellis]

I mean, we gotta catch and release, right?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, I was thinking that we could maybe throw one on the.

[Jerry Mooc]

The cast iron skillet regulations, but I'd assume for that river it's probably only catch and release.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, I think so. You boys are going to have to buy permits too.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't worry about it.

[Francis Ellis]

I got it in every.

[Jerry Mooc]

I got. I got a U.S. permit. It's called a 45 license.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm talking about eminent domain.

[Jerry Mooc]

Isn't it insane that you have to buy a license to fish in America?

[Ronan Farrow]

No, because they will subsidize and charge you for everything. It's. You have to get a beach tag in New Jersey on the. To go on the beach.

[Jerry Mooc]

True. You got to do that everywhere, though.

[Francis Ellis]

And is.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Isn't this what these are? The. The cost of the licenses is what subsidizes the game wardens and the protecting of the fishery, supposedly.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, that's what they say, right? Yeah, that's what they. That's what I hear. But then why is USGS down? Answer me that.

[Ronan Farrow]

Because the government shut down.

[Jerry Mooc]

Exactly. So why am I buying a license to go fishing if we don't have a government.

[Ronan Farrow]

We don't have a.

[Jerry Mooc]

We actually probably don't need to get a light. There's no game wardens out.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, they're taking some time off.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, they're on vacation, actually.

[Ronan Farrow]

We should kill something that's like. Yeah, let's kill a baby.

[Jerry Mooc]

Let's kill all. Let's keep all the fish.

[Francis Ellis]

Let's kill an eagle.

[Jerry Mooc]

We should just go out there with one of those big ass nets. That would be so funny for the video. Halfway through the day, you just pull out one of those huge nets and toss it into the river.

[Francis Ellis]

I've always wanted an eagle.

[Ronan Farrow]

Killing an eagle would be amazing. That's. That's like the most evil thing you could do without being like racist.

[Francis Ellis]

Kill.

[Jerry Mooc]

Killing an eagle.

[Francis Ellis]

Lynching. That's one step ahead of that.

[Ronan Farrow]

That's insane.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, yeah. I want to spread its wings above my bed. Mounted. If we counted bald eagle.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, we're cooking it up on the fire.

[Francis Ellis]

When did you get that? I'm like it's the last one that was killed before they outlawed it. It's my great grandfather.

[Ronan Farrow]

It was a window in time where they could. It was like that year you could go to Cuba. You could just kill an eagle because nobody was on the watch.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

I wonder what eagle meat tastes like.

[Jerry Mooc]

It's gotta be chicken. I think it tastes like chicken. My friends told me it tastes like chicken.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, so it's good.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

I was guessing it was tougher than chicken. Tough, Definitely. Tougher than fat ass turkey.

[Jerry Mooc]

Definitely.

[Francis Ellis]

Dude, eagles are the coolest thing ever. And I don't think they'll ever not be cool. Do you ever think we'll get to a point where eagles are so ubiquitous that they won't even be cool?

[Ronan Farrow]

No.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, but they're not endangered anymore, right?

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, but they're still so awesome to see. You see a falcon, you see a hawk. Suck my dick.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, we'll see some hawks. We'll see some red tail hawks.

[Jerry Mooc]

I think I've only ever seen the eagle like once.

[Francis Ellis]

Come on. Yeah, well, we might see one. I bet you we might see one.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'd love to see any.

[Francis Ellis]

They have bears up here too. Black bears. Eagles are not bald. Eagles are no longer considered endangered and they removed from the Federalist in 2007. But they're still protected under federal and state laws. Which we don't agree with because we are sovereign citizens.

[Jerry Mooc]

Exactly. And the government's shut down.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Or what if we, like, set a bear onto an eagle and have it do our dirty work for us?

[Jerry Mooc]

Little fight instigate. Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

That would be the honey pot. You hear what he was calling you? He called you a black bear.

[Jerry Mooc]

He said you're a what?

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, God.

[Francis Ellis]

Are there, Are there animals that. Is there animal meat that you guys would not eat?

[Jerry Mooc]

It's so many.

[Ronan Farrow]

If they sell it, I'm eating it most.

[Francis Ellis]

I think, like if I, if, if I said, boys, we're eating good tonight. I've been cooking all, all day upstate and I pulled out dinner and you're like, what is that?

[Ronan Farrow]

I'm not eating dog or cat.

[Francis Ellis]

Well, what.

[Jerry Mooc]

Well, what's the animal?

[Francis Ellis]

Black bear.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

No, you wouldn't eat black bear.

[Ronan Farrow]

I would definitely eat black bear.

[Francis Ellis]

They say that the heart of a black bear tastes like filet mignon.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm sure it does.

[Ronan Farrow]

I bet it. I bet your. Your roc hard for three weeks if you eat the heart of a black bear. I bet you can't, like, quell your boner. Yeah, it's probably who the is Eating.

[Jerry Mooc]

The heart of a black bear.

[Francis Ellis]

So a lot of people, Mainers. I was supposed to go on a bear hunt, and I was. I backed out because I couldn't handle it emotionally.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. Apparently insane.

[Francis Ellis]

They tree the bear with dogs.

[Jerry Mooc]

So what the hell does that mean?

[Francis Ellis]

They. The dogs chase the bear in and it. It's scared, so it runs up a tree and then you come under the tree and you shoot it out of the tree, which seems really unfair to me.

[Jerry Mooc]

Seems really unfair. And it's also like. It's not even. Doesn't even sound like hunting. Sounds like your dogs are doing all the work and then you just go and execute it.

[Francis Ellis]

But this is where most people, like, there's. There's. There's a huge conversation about, like, the fairness of hunting, which is where Rogan hunts with a bow.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

And stalks the elk or whatever. And that seems to be the most fair.

[Ronan Farrow]

I think the only fair way to do it is to have the animal live with about 20, 000 of that same animal for like, three years and then just shoot it in the back of the head one time and have some, like, a burger of it.

[Francis Ellis]

Because it has a 1 in 20,000 chance of that happening.

[Ronan Farrow]

No, no. All of them die.

[Francis Ellis]

What do you mean?

[Ronan Farrow]

Like a factory farming.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, I see.

[Ronan Farrow]

I think that's the only ethical way that I'll actually eat something is if we heard it through life. Feed it only olives so it tastes a little bit sweet when you have.

[Jerry Mooc]

So little that you wouldn't know if no one told you.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah. Yeah. That is interesting.

[Francis Ellis]

Do you guys like foie grasp?

[Ronan Farrow]

I do.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't know I think I've ever had that.

[Francis Ellis]

Or pate.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't think I've had that either.

[Ronan Farrow]

They're from the liver.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm not a big liver guy.

[Francis Ellis]

The process of it is pretty. Pretty nuts.

[Jerry Mooc]

I think I'm good with just, you know, chicken and steak.

[Francis Ellis]

What about duck? Do you like duck?

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't mind it, but I don't, like, ever. I'm never going out. Like, would you have a duck?

[Francis Ellis]

Would you have a bison steak? Bison's great.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, I would have bison. I've had bison.

[Ronan Farrow]

So this is just that what you've had and are okay with. It's not like you're taking some Ethan Ethical stand about, like, the intelligence of certain animals. You're just like, I'm familiar with this. So I'd eat it again.

[Jerry Mooc]

Well, no, it's the. I wouldn't. I don't think I would Eat a bear.

[Ronan Farrow]

Why?

[Jerry Mooc]

Because I don't need. I don't. I don't think there's any need.

[Francis Ellis]

No, it's because they have been anthropomorphized to a level that you hear because.

[Ronan Farrow]

You live in Chicago for a year.

[Francis Ellis]

Of Winnie the Pooh or the Berenstein Bears.

[Jerry Mooc]

Because bears have, like.

[Ronan Farrow]

They are huge.

[Jerry Mooc]

They have feelings and they have, like a family. Family. And then you're gonna.

[Ronan Farrow]

They're not unlike all other animals that just spawn.

[Jerry Mooc]

Well, they're not like. It's not like cows, where there's 70, 000 of them in one.

[Francis Ellis]

You know, lone wolves also have families.

[Jerry Mooc]

Lone wolves?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

Well, I wouldn't need a wolf either.

[Francis Ellis]

You wouldn't?

[Jerry Mooc]

No.

[Francis Ellis]

I would eat a wolf.

[Jerry Mooc]

That's insane.

[Francis Ellis]

I think of what I would do with that power. There's coursing through my paws.

[Jerry Mooc]

It's gonna be guilt. Coursing through your paws?

[Francis Ellis]

No, it's gonna be guiltless.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, that's great.

[Francis Ellis]

Heightened sense of smell. Bloodlust.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm not eating any wolf and I'm not eating any bear. And I'm probably not eating. I don't want to eat anything that's bigger than a.

[Ronan Farrow]

You just said you eat cow.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, but that's different because, like we said, they're in a factory farm, so.

[Ronan Farrow]

They never had a chance.

[Jerry Mooc]

They never had a chance.

[Ronan Farrow]

Right.

[Jerry Mooc]

It's not like there's one cow in, like, a big farm or a big meadow.

[Ronan Farrow]

So it's more ethical to not hunt, but to kill in a factory farm for myself.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, definitely.

[Ronan Farrow]

I'm fine with that. Yeah. Every man needs to live by a code.

[Jerry Mooc]

Exactly. That's my code. Go to the grocery store like a normal person.

[Ronan Farrow]

What about horse? Would you eat horse?

[Francis Ellis]

No, I've eaten horse. I have. I know in Iceland I ate horse meat.

[Jerry Mooc]

I will say, depending on the country.

[Francis Ellis]

Either that or eat my boots. And I'm not going to eat my boots now. You're not paid a lot of money for my boots.

[Jerry Mooc]

Obviously you're not eating boots. Let's not be foolish.

[Francis Ellis]

Do you know that the men of Shackleton's voyage had to eat their boots? Of course, they were starving when they got caught in the ice.

[Ronan Farrow]

How many calories are in boot?

[Jerry Mooc]

Like, enough.

[Ronan Farrow]

Really?

[Jerry Mooc]

Surprising amount.

[Francis Ellis]

Think of how many times you'd have to chew a mouthful of boot to get it down.

[Jerry Mooc]

I'm sure there's a strategy.

[Ronan Farrow]

Or how about a perfectly shaving.

[Jerry Mooc]

Shaving it down. Boil it like good fellas with the garlic.

[Ronan Farrow]

So Thin. You could see.

[Francis Ellis]

His boot. You could eat it with a spoon right off.

[Ronan Farrow]

It's like, look at the window.

[Jerry Mooc]

Exactly. That's probably how you would go out of boot.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah. But I mean, if they don't have, like, they probably don't have the hand skill to be able to. Thin slice of boot.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

That's a delicate, delicate move by a good man, that is. How are we on time? Should I piss?

[Francis Ellis]

We're good.

[Jerry Mooc]

We're good.

[Francis Ellis]

We got. We need more time. We need to keep going a little bit.

[Ronan Farrow]

Okay. Let me fish.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go for it. Hair. Do you think we're gonna catch fish this weekend?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, I do.

[Francis Ellis]

I think. Amazing.

[Jerry Mooc]

I think we will because I think it's a really good time of the year to go fishing.

[Francis Ellis]

Okay, awesome.

[Jerry Mooc]

And if we have three people fishing, you know, that ups our odds.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Right.

[Jerry Mooc]

That makes us have a lot better of a chance of catching something.

[Francis Ellis]

But let me ask you this. Be honest. Yeah. I am utterly inept as a five fisherman.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. And so is Ron.

[Francis Ellis]

So do we even count? What are. Like, how hard is it? Could we just get lucky even though our technique is terrible?

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, it's not.

[Francis Ellis]

Or are we not even in the fucking conversation of catching a fish because we are so bad?

[Jerry Mooc]

No, no, you're definitely able to. That's why I said I would like. A woolly bugger is probably going to be your best bet because it. You don't really need to do anything.

[Francis Ellis]

Right.

[Jerry Mooc]

Like the. You. I. I mean. Yeah. Yeah, it's possible. You know, the hardest part is landing the fish. Fly fishing.

[Francis Ellis]

And setting. What about setting the hook?

[Jerry Mooc]

Like setting the hook and landing the fish is the hardest part of fly fishing.

[Francis Ellis]

Setting the hook is you see it. About the bite. It bites and then you pull.

[Jerry Mooc]

Setting the hook is knowing what a strike is and then setting the hook like the. Like, Like. Like if you're fishing like on an IND with an indicator or like a bopper. Like you're watching the bopper.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

And sometimes it goes down and then obviously you have a fish.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

But sometimes it's like. It's more of like just like a sudden slight movement. Like it'll. It'll be going and then it'll slowly stop and then it'll keep going. That slow stop is usually like a bite or it's just you hitting the bottom of the so river.

[Francis Ellis]

So you and I have been fishing together twice now.

[Jerry Mooc]

Have we?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. One time we went with Sydney.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

One time we went on the river.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

And when we went With Sydney. I caught fish before you did.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

And I.

[Jerry Mooc]

Big ass.

[Francis Ellis]

We caught huge fish. And then on the river, we didn't catch anything.

[Jerry Mooc]

But the river. I don't even. I wouldn't even count that. Yeah. For five minutes.

[Francis Ellis]

It was too cold.

[Jerry Mooc]

It was too cold.

[Francis Ellis]

Boy, am I excited. I am fucking jazzed up. Boys, boys.

[Jerry Mooc]

I think. I think it'll be fun. Like, I think we'll probably catch fish. I don't know if we'll catch any big fish. I think you guys are going to be.

[Francis Ellis]

Doesn't matter.

[Jerry Mooc]

It does.

[Francis Ellis]

Why?

[Jerry Mooc]

It matters because when you catch a fish, when you catch a two inch trout.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, come on. Fine. Yeah, that's.

[Jerry Mooc]

You're gonna be like. And you'll catch. Like, usually if you're going to catch a big fish, you're gonna catch like seven tiny ass trout at first. Like, that's a good sign that there's fish.

[Francis Ellis]

Right?

[Jerry Mooc]

You know?

[Francis Ellis]

Right.

[Jerry Mooc]

Rarely is it you just get hit with the hammer.

[Francis Ellis]

I found a really good present for you.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, great.

[Francis Ellis]

For what? Just because I like you.

[Jerry Mooc]

Just in general.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I want to buy this present for you, but it's. I'll tell you what it is.

[Jerry Mooc]

Okay.

[Francis Ellis]

Someone sent it to me on Instagram. They DM'd it to me and they said, you should get this for sass. And it is this. These expert glass blowers, right? And they make these trout. They make brown trout pieces of art.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, I have seen those.

[Francis Ellis]

That are so.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, those are super cool.

[Francis Ellis]

And I DM'd them and I said, can you make this such that you could smoke pot out of it? My friend wouldn't want it otherwise. And they have not gotten back. So I'm gonna find out if they can amend it because I don't think they're like pipe making people.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. They probably hate that.

[Francis Ellis]

It's more art. Yeah. But we're going to see all of them, though.

[Ronan Farrow]

If you blow glass, you smoke bongs.

[Francis Ellis]

Correct.

[Jerry Mooc]

I mean, all you got to do is just like poke a little hole in the front.

[Ronan Farrow]

Whoopsies.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah. Right. Now you have a bong.

[Ronan Farrow]

Somebody said that you should reenact Walton Goggins upstate House Cribs episode.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, that's kind of fun.

[Ronan Farrow]

You haven't seen his. It's like an Architectural Digest.

[Francis Ellis]

This place is unbelievable.

[Jerry Mooc]

Really.

[Ronan Farrow]

He bought like, it was like 120 acres or something. Something like that. And he has this house from the 1800s and he's just taking you room to room, talking intimately about the person that designed every aspect of his house. It's actually. It'll get you hooked on architecture.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Look, I think we need to like level set a little bit. I have a two bedroom condo.

[Ronan Farrow]

Okay.

[Francis Ellis]

The idea that I have this like farmhouse on rolling acres. A little misplaced, but it's great. But it is. It's two bedrooms. And then I have my buddy who has a place next door. They're not using it. They're letting us use it.

[Ronan Farrow]

We'll get to meet your cows though, right?

[Jerry Mooc]

Cattle.

[Ronan Farrow]

We'll get to feed the chickens. Right?

[Francis Ellis]

We will. We will feed all the llamas and alpacas and vicunas.

[Ronan Farrow]

And we'll get to spend some time with your milk mage. Right. Churn some butter, local Amish people. Are there Amish up there? There's no.

[Francis Ellis]

There are. And they all make furniture. Oh, that's what they do.

[Jerry Mooc]

Really?

[Ronan Farrow]

If we have the company car, we might as well get you a credenza.

[Francis Ellis]

I could use a bed.

[Jerry Mooc]

That would be huge.

[Francis Ellis]

A giant wooden bed.

[Jerry Mooc]

That's what this whole series should just turn into. It's just what furnishes do with the company card.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Jerry Mooc]

So first we're gonna stop by Orvis. We don't even end up going fishing.

[Ronan Farrow]

We just spent.

[Jerry Mooc]

Just dripped out fantastic $10,000 on waiters.

[Ronan Farrow]

And then we just have a six pairs of waiters and then a 12 person table for the middle of Francis's apartment. There's not even a room for it, but there's leaflets that were taken out.

[Francis Ellis]

Guys, we have two options right now. We could not spend this money. And then when it's time for us to ask for raises, point to all the money we brought in, and try to get raises. Or we could spend all the money right now.

[Jerry Mooc]

I mean, I don't hate it.

[Francis Ellis]

Useless shit.

[Jerry Mooc]

I don't hate that idea, actually.

[Ronan Farrow]

What about this as a series though? We. We window shop. So we go and like almost buy things and then add our review. We take it back to Dave. We're like, this is all the stuff we could have bought. And we just get really close on really high price tags.

[Francis Ellis]

Look, Ron, I actually don't know how much working capital we have. You're the. You're the money man. You know what we actually are allowed to do?

[Ronan Farrow]

We're trying. We're. This is a pilot episode of a series that we're gonna try and sell multiple times.

[Francis Ellis]

So we need to spend a lot.

[Ronan Farrow]

We need to set a baseline. Because if we're like, we only. We only spend this little amount. Amount, then they're Gonna be like, oh, well, we only need to sell it for this. We need to, we need to buy the Rob McElhenny.

[Jerry Mooc]

This is a million commercial outfit. Yeah, yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

We need to start. We. You start at the top. Yeah. You don't work your way into the call Big cat.

[Ronan Farrow]

See what great week sells for. Triple it.

[Jerry Mooc]

Yeah, yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Perfect.

[Jerry Mooc]

And that's like, that's the bare necessity. Like, that's like.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, no, that's just shoestring there. Yeah, shoestring operation.

[Jerry Mooc]

Two million per shooting would make it easier here.

[Francis Ellis]

I told. It's. I feel ridiculous because I actually thought we were. I was trying to be a little conservative on our finances and I, I. My cleaning ladies were going to come before and I said, no, no, no, just come after because all. And I cleaned up my place myself. Not that I always keep it expensive. It would have been 200 bucks. That's it. And I said, no, no, no, no, I don't think we have that.

[Ronan Farrow]

Oh, 200 bucks, that's cheap. They're illegal. Illegal.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, they're forbidden.

[Ronan Farrow]

They just got here.

[Francis Ellis]

They only work at night.

[Guest/Interjection]

Yeah.

[Ronan Farrow]

Good God.

[Francis Ellis]

Wow.

[Ronan Farrow]

That's their fourth job.

[Francis Ellis]

They don't come in a car. They come through the woods with their mops, buckets, and. Quick, quick, quick. Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. Underlay, underlay through the floorboards.

[Jerry Mooc]

That's so funny.

[Ronan Farrow]

Just. I'm picturing the guy from Inglorious Bastards, like, coming in looking. Yeah, yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Do you mind if I smoke? Are they under the floorboards right now?

[Jerry Mooc]

What am I bringing in terms of games? Am I bringing my games?

[Francis Ellis]

Bring. Bring games, bring everything.

[Jerry Mooc]

Bring my console. We need a PlayStation.

[Ronan Farrow]

We need.

[Jerry Mooc]

The only thing I can bring is a PlayStation.

[Francis Ellis]

That's fine.

[Ronan Farrow]

This is like a heavy duty sleepover. This is an adult sleepover.

[Jerry Mooc]

Kind of Problem is there's not that many games on the PlayStation.

[Ronan Farrow]

Thinking, well, we're not really that many games.

[Jerry Mooc]

Preload.

[Francis Ellis]

We can also buy a console on the way up because I didn't have the cleaning ladies Come.

[Jerry Mooc]

True, true.

[Ronan Farrow]

So that's kind of against your girl Math.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. One console, 10 games and 14 controllers. Not bad with the hand fans.

[Ronan Farrow]

That's genius. That's like what Jordan Woodruff said. She didn't. On the way to the airport, her parents got her. So she didn't take an uber that saved 60 bucks. She didn't get the food at the airport. That saved her 20 bucks. So she has 80 bucks to spend on makeup.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, girl math, Really?

[Ronan Farrow]

A little bit of girl math.

[Francis Ellis]

I mean, I do a lot of girl math. I do a lot of girls. You do it with like your pants?

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah. You're like, oh, I bought.

[Francis Ellis]

I buy the clothes first, and then I hitchhike to Chicago instead of taking a Delta flight.

[Jerry Mooc]

I got a. I. I kind of do it too. Right now. I'm trying to. I'm trying to get it. I want to get a new CPU for my PC, but it's like 500 bucks, and I can't really justify spending it because I don't really need it. And so now I'm just not ubering anymore. Just taking the subway and biking everywhere for like a month.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, I do it too.

[Jerry Mooc]

Save that 500 CPU do.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, it's smart. I do it.

[Jerry Mooc]

I. I'll.

[Ronan Farrow]

I'll max out my kids 5 29s and then not eat dinner for a week.

[Jerry Mooc]

Of course.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah, of course.

[Francis Ellis]

Well, that's a little different.

[Jerry Mooc]

You got credit cards for him yet?

[Ronan Farrow]

Maxed out.

[Jerry Mooc]

Maxed out. Yeah. Get them started early.

[Francis Ellis]

The 529 is the tax free education fund.

[Ronan Farrow]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

I mean, yeah, we're talking about buying a computer and jeans. He's like, I'm investing in my children now. Any eat ramen for a week. I don't really know if you're in the same conversation of waste that Harry and I are.

[Ronan Farrow]

It's girl math for that for you. My kids are eating girl math. Boss is at it again.

[Francis Ellis]

Sweet.

[Ronan Farrow]

Sweet. This is going to be great. Subscribe up right now.

[Jerry Mooc]

Big week.

[Ronan Farrow]

We're going to grandfather everybody in who subscribes right now. Special offer before you have to pay. Next week before you have to pay. So subscribe up. Otherwise we're going to hit you over the head.

[Jerry Mooc]

50 bucks an episode. Barstool TV. All right, thank you guys for listening. We will see you next week. Big week. Big week. Spread the word. Tell your friends. Subscribe, follow comment below. Nice things only. And yeah, we'll see you guys next week.

[Francis Ellis]

Goodbye.

[Jerry Mooc]

Oh, I'm actually Chicago. I added a Thursday. Late show tickets for that are out now.

[Francis Ellis]

Nice. Yeah, I'll be in Austin at Cap City November 21st weekend right before Thanksgiving. So hope to see you there in Boston. Punch up dot live. Frances Ellis.

[Jerry Mooc]

Okay, sweet.

[Guest/Interjection]

Still, still underground so I looked older to you Came around I was only falling one way I was only falling one way Way Chase world drifting for was I so, so then you listen now I come alive I was only folding one way I was only folding one way I was only falling one way I was only falling one way I need you real no one can take me alive I was only falling one way See just a distant light Call it just a memory Take my head and you can see Sam. Love did you realize.