Dreams From My Father | Son of a Boy Dad #364

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Son of a Boy Dad

Episode #364: "Dreams From My Father"

Release Date: January 6, 2026
Hosts: Lil Sasquatch (Sas), Rone (Harry), Francis Ellis, Tyler

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Overview

In this lively and meandering episode, the hosts regroup after the holidays, catching up on their travels, life resets, sleeplessness, and post-break habits. The episode centers around Francis Ellis’s disorientation after returning from New Zealand, drifting jet-lag, and his search for life lessons. Throughout, the group indulges in storytelling, gentle roast sessions, personal updates, and gift giving, peppered with observations about manhood, hobbies, and the perennial struggles of young adulthood.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Francis's Jet Lag Odyssey

• Francis returns from New Zealand, plagued by brutal sleep disruption. He shares a surreal cycle of waking up at 12:30am and feeling overwhelmingly awake through the early hours.
  • “Four nights in a row, I have power napped from bedtime until just into the next day... I could conduct driving tests. I could land a plane. I could assemble Legos. I could build a home.” — Francis (06:22)
• Despite experimenting with melatonin, Ativan, magnesium, and sleep routines, nothing fixes his schedule.
• The group debates late-night loneliness versus the creative, unique solitude of odd hours.
  • “When everyone else you know is asleep... it gets spooky.” — Francis (13:16)
  • “That’s my favorite time to exist. I live for those hours.” — Tyler (13:22)
• Reading and audiobooks are tried as sleep aids; Francis cycles from Jon Krakauer’s Into Thin Air to Obama’s Dreams from My Father with little relief.

2. Gift Giving Tuesday: Travel Souvenirs & Sentiment

• Francis brings back quirky and thoughtful gifts from New Zealand, leading to laughs about the authenticity of “Maori surf camp kits” (which turn out to be Delta amenity bags).
• Real gifts include artisanal wool (and possum!) sweaters and New Zealand chocolate.
  • “If I ever see you wearing that, it will make me so happy.” — Francis to Harry (48:51)
• The crew openly roasts and appreciates the gifts, with extended banter about possum wool (“What’s the percentage of possum in yours?”).

3. Francis’s Sneaker Purge

• Francis recounts selling his prized sneaker collection: the saga of packing them in tote bags, hustling through NYC sneaker shops, and being “fleeced” on resell prices.
  • “I went to one spot... I had nine pairs of sneakers in two canvas totes... They bought each for $200.” — Francis (20:30)
  • “I said, ‘You can f*** my face in right now.’ He goes, ‘We won’t. They’ll just sit on the shelves.’” — Francis (22:41)
• The discussion tracks the death of the hype sneaker market and how personal style shifts over time.

4. Stories of Adolescence and Destruction

• Sas reminisces about destroying his prized “Reebok Zigs” shoes while longboarding, prompting nostalgia and comical reflections on suburban childhood.
• The group explores their own youthful accidents and resourcefulness (slide gloves made from kitchen cutting boards).

5. Francis’s New Zealand Pilgrimage: Self-Discovery and Solitude

• Francis details his solo trip: after a few days with friends, he ventures out alone, facing unexpected loneliness, existential car rides, and “bucolic, sheep deep areas.”
  • “My thoughts were swirling... I was mad that I was mad.” — Francis (56:33)
• Experiences range from tourist traps to elite fishing expeditions, culminating in an earlier-than-planned return due to emotional burnout.
  • “The next day I went fishing. That was like the best thing of all time. I’m better than you are.” — Francis (58:33)
• Revelations include appreciating his career, feeling antsy when away, and recalibrating what brings him satisfaction.

6. Random Asides and Group Chemistry

• Banter about artificial intelligence jokes, Mad Men, Oled TVs, viral meme cycles, and questionable movie representations (“Edward Norton pretending to be special needs in The Score”).
• Debates on candy preferences, sleep strategy, and manly life goals.
• “That’s just being a male... just being a boy.” — Francis and Tyler (75:47)

7. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On insomnia:
  • “I feel like I’m on coke.” — Francis (01:24)
• On travel fatigue:
  • “I don’t think I ever need to talk to a woman again.” — Francis (85:29), jokingly reflecting on a quiet trip.
• On growing out of passions:
  • “I was an avid [sneaker] collector, and now I wouldn’t be caught dead wearing a pair of Jordans.” — Francis (26:39)
• On masculinity and life’s arc:
  • “I started feeling really antsy. I love my job to the point of, I don’t want to be away from it for that long.” — Francis (85:54)
• On attempting sleep aids:
  • “Obama, five Ativan, two melatonin, and the Obama-Springsteen podcast blasting in the background.” — Tyler (15:05)
• On existential wisdom: (Cormac McCarthy from No Country for Old Men)
  • “All the time you spend trying to get back what’s been took from you, there’s more going out the door. After a while, you just have to try to get a tourniquet on it.” — Francis, quoting Ellis (89:44)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Francis’s Jet Lag and Insomnia: 05:22–16:40
• Gift Giving Tuesday & Laughs: 16:58–48:55
• Sneaker Resale Saga: 18:00–31:22
• Childhood Mishaps & Longboarding: 27:33–30:31
• New Zealand Recap (from isolation to fishing): 55:00–67:11
• Revelations about Work & Satisfaction: 85:31–87:11
• Advice via ‘No Country For Old Men’ Quote: 89:44–90:09

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Tone & Style

The episode is loose, irreverent, and authentic with the casual, rapid-fire energy of friends catching up. The hosts blend self-deprecation, introspection, and humor, highlighting both the absurdity and tenderness of male friendship. Themes of adulthood, routine, and self-discovery thread through their stories, offering relatability alongside laughter.

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For New Listeners

If you missed this one, expect a rollicking mix of storytelling, clever ribbing, and true-to-life confessions about battling inertia, shifting interests, and reflecting on what it means to be “a man”—all woven into a spontaneous hangout, where jokes and deep thoughts mingle.

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Transcript

[Tyler]

Hey. Son of a boy. Dad. Listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube Prime. Members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.

[Francis Ellis]

Cracker Barrel is home to all the more country anytime. That means buttermilk pancakes whenever you want them. Homemade classics like chicken and dumplings. And a country store full of fun finds. Swing by and visit Cracker Barrel today. So y' all know that we're big fans of Cracker Barrel. And this holiday season, I will be sat at their table with a big plate of country fried turkey.

[Harry]

And Brandon, I'll be right there with you. And I'll check it off my Christmas list in the country store while I'm at it. It'll make a nice holiday tradition.

[Francis Ellis]

Oh, that's so cute of you.

[Harry]

Enjoy all the more holiday traditions only at Cracker Barrel.

[Francis Ellis]

I feel insane right now.

[Tyler]

I know.

[Francis Ellis]

I want you to.

[Tyler]

I want to hear about it on the podcast.

[Francis Ellis]

I am so, so delirious.

[Harry]

Did you end up falling back asleep?

[Francis Ellis]

No.

[Harry]

Oh, Jesus.

[Tyler]

Let's just rip into it. I want to know about all this. I want to know about this live.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. All right. We get together.

[Tyler]

You got duffel bags under your eyes right now.

[Francis Ellis]

Do I?

[Tyler]

No offense.

[Francis Ellis]

And also, this is the brightest it's ever been in here.

[Tyler]

Like, you're still the most handsome guy on the show. Still.

[Harry]

I feel like you.

[Tyler]

You're.

[Harry]

I mean, I guess I kind of can see it, but it doesn't look bad. You look pretty normal.

[Francis Ellis]

I feel like I'm on coke.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

I want to, like, grind my mouth together.

[Harry]

Yeah. It's the worst feeling.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

I did bring some coke if you want to do some coke from Venezuela. Surprise coke episode.

[Francis Ellis]

Imagine if Roan walked in with cigars right now. Oh, I'd throw myself off the building.

[Tyler]

Dipped in coke just around the mouth.

[Harry]

Well, now we've got cigars just kind of waiting.

[Tyler]

No, Those too dry. Yeah. We need a humidor.

[Francis Ellis]

I know. All right.

[Harry]

Alrighty. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy dad podcast. Today it is. Oh, It's. It's Tuesday, January 6th. Happy 6th.

[Tyler]

Happy day six.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

This is coming out today. You guys will hear this today. So out.

[Francis Ellis]

What a day.

[Harry]

Welcome back.

[Tyler]

Yeah. So happy to be back with you guys. I miss you guys like crazy.

[Harry]

Long ass break.

[Tyler]

My one main question I have to ask is, Francis, are you okay?

[Francis Ellis]

You know, I'm kind of just. I don't know. I'm. I'm. I'm. I feel very weird. Really weird.

[Harry]

Yeah. Francis texts me, like, the. I. I think you guys Have a warped idea of what time I go to bed. You texted me at like 4:30 and we're like, are you up? No. Why would I be up? Because why would I ever be up?

[Francis Ellis]

There's anyone I know in my world who would be up at that time. It's you. Or maybe him with his kids.

[Harry]

I think there's more of a chance that Roan's waking up than me still being awake.

[Francis Ellis]

You've had. You've had plenty of nights where you were like, oh, shoot, not in a.

[Harry]

I haven't pulled a. I haven't been up since that. In.

[Tyler]

That late. That late.

[Harry]

Since probably in like two or three years.

[Tyler]

That's not. That is not true.

[Harry]

I don't have it in me. I don't have it.

[Tyler]

That's not two or three years.

[Harry]

Around one now I start just shutting.

[Tyler]

Someone could pull the tape set where you talked about it, where you, like, watch the sun come up.

[Francis Ellis]

Like when you said that you wear that shirt all the time and you'd never worn it. What? Brand new shirt? No, the one that had. That was made of corn husks.

[Harry]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that is not. I have that shirt still. Great shirt. L.L.

[Francis Ellis]

Bean, my favorite.

[Tyler]

Actually.

[Harry]

No, it's Old Navy.

[Francis Ellis]

Okay, well, then I don't like the.

[Tyler]

Younger Brother brand, but I feel like we have a childlike understanding of what, like, Sass's sleep schedule is.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Like, I go to bed at like, you know, like. Like I usually cap out at 2. Like, asleep by 2. But 4:30, if I'm up at 4:30, I'm in panic mode. I'm like, what is. I gotta go to bed. What is happening?

[Francis Ellis]

Did you guys see that viral clip of that college girl whose friend woke her up and she comes to the door and she's very Her. Her. She's got bedhead and she's just woken up and it's dark. And she goes, what time is it she got. The other girl goes, It's 5:30. She goes. @ night? And the girl goes, yeah. And she goes, did the day.

[Harry]

Happen? Oh.

[Francis Ellis]

No. She goes, yeah. And she goes, are you dead ass? And the girl goes, yeah. She goes. She goes, what'd you. Bro, I watched this 20 times. Yeah, this girl killed.

[Harry]

Me. Yeah. I mean, that's like the worst feeling. I don't think I've ever had a full, like, sleep till 5:30. No, but I've woken up at like 2 and been like, feels right. You're, like, sick to your stomach. You're like, I'm A piece.

[Francis Ellis]

Of.

[Tyler]

Yeah. You feel like you got robbed of some of your.

[Harry]

Life.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. The only way to make up for it is to stay up super late that.

[Harry]

Night.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And then you're Tyler.

[Francis Ellis]

Durden.

[Harry]

Yeah. That's how the cycle.

[Tyler]

Glitching. So what have you been doing since 1:30 when.

[Francis Ellis]

You. Bro, I don't even want to talk about it. Well, I do, but, I mean, here's the thing. I tried, of.

[Harry]

Course. It's also funny to keep in mind. Francis called me like three days ago. And he was like, yeah, pretty much beat the jet lag, having no problems with.

[Francis Ellis]

That. All right, so I flew home. And the fir I got home at, I landed at JFK at 8pm on January 1st. And I went home and I went to bed at 10:30. And I had slept like so much on the two massive flights I had. And I woke up at 7:00am first night home, 10:30 Eastern Time, p.m. to 7:00am, and I was like, whoa, I'm.

[Harry]

Good.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Holy shit. I thought this was going to be a tough readjustment. That night I went to bed at 11 and I woke up at 12:30pm Hour and a half.

[Harry]

Later. Yeah, that's not.

[Francis Ellis]

Good. And that has happened for the last four nights. Four nights in a row, I have power napped from bedtime until just into the next.

[Harry]

Day.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. What? And then I am awake. I am so awake. I am. I am. I could conduct driving tests. I could land a plane. I could learn things, complicated things. I could assemble Legos. I could build a home there. I. There's so much that I could get done. I've never felt as alert as I have from 12:30 until 6 in the.

[Harry]

Morning.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. These.

[Tyler]

Last. When are you getting tired, though? Like, are you getting tired at like 6pm? Could you just conk out.

[Francis Ellis]

Then? Well, no. I don't know what's going.

[Harry]

On. It sounds like you might just not need eight hours anymore. I think you're an hour and a.

[Francis Ellis]

Half. I feel physically.

[Harry]

Sick. That's.

[Francis Ellis]

Six. I feel nauseous. And there's a dull, throbbing pain behind my left.

[Harry]

Eyebrow. Could that have to do with the hair.

[Francis Ellis]

Transplant? No, they didn't take hair from my.

[Harry]

Eyebrows. You never.

[Francis Ellis]

Know. Yeah, you.

[Tyler]

Do. You got the.

[Francis Ellis]

Strip. I was.

[Harry]

Awake. I took the.

[Tyler]

Strip. They repopulated the.

[Francis Ellis]

Eyebrows. So, yeah, I mean, I think the way it's been happening is I end up struggling so hard and I finally do get back to sleep from like 5am and the first day, I slept till 11am from 5am to 11 and then I. Whatever. Hello? Oh.

[Harry]

Hey. I thought that was Pat. Bev.

[Tyler]

Bev, say hello to.

[Francis Ellis]

My. No. Oh.

[Harry]

Man. Are you doing anything to try to fall asle? Like, are you taking like. Cuz I'm. When I can't sleep like that, like I'll give it like two.

[Tyler]

Hours. He said he's taking one of everything. He's taking the.

[Francis Ellis]

Fistful.

[Harry]

I'm. You just got to take the.

[Francis Ellis]

Cocktail. Every night I take a different.

[Harry]

Thing. He takes the blissful. Start.

[Francis Ellis]

Mixing.

[Harry]

No.

[Francis Ellis]

Yes. That's. Do you know what I've.

[Harry]

Taken? It doesn't.

[Francis Ellis]

Matter. I've named it on this.

[Tyler]

Post. I threw all the vans, the.

[Francis Ellis]

Prams. I took. I took melatonin, magnesium, Ativan. Ativan worked on the plane. Ativan knocked me the fuck.

[Harry]

Out. You've built a.

[Francis Ellis]

Tolerance. No, I.

[Harry]

Haven'T. Sounds like you're building a.

[Tyler]

Tolerance. You might be in withdrawal during the.

[Harry]

Daytime. Yeah, that's probably what's happening. You're waking up sweating and shaking at 1:30 looking. Looking at the bottom of a pill.

[Francis Ellis]

Bottle. I haven't slept that late. I've also. I've also. I've been forcing myself to wake up earlier. So I slept from like 6am till 9am and dragged myself out of a fucking.

[Harry]

Coma.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And then had just held on for the rest of the day. Went to bed at 10:30 and I was like, I've slept so little. Surely I'll make it through the.

[Harry]

Night.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Woke up at.

[Tyler]

12:30. Well, you came back early from your trip. What have you been busying yourself with during the daytime? Is there anything like strenuous workouts? I feel like are your bread and.

[Francis Ellis]

Butter. Yeah. Listen, I. I have so much to share with you guys, but I have no idea how to organize my thoughts right now. So you're just gonna have to guide whatever you want to hear and I'll try to answer it.

[Tyler]

Quickly. So, daytime routine. Since you've been.

[Francis Ellis]

Back. I've been. I've been working on the book and editing it. And then I work out. I do work out. And then I've been cooking a lot. Healthy. I need to get outside a little more. Yesterday I did not exit. I didn't touch.

[Harry]

Fresh. There's no reason.

[Francis Ellis]

Though. No. They say that that's big for jet.

[Harry]

Lag. I've.

[Francis Ellis]

Heard. Yeah, you need.

[Harry]

Sunlight. That makes sense. I've heard that exercising is. Is the biggest helper for jet.

[Francis Ellis]

Lag. They say that seeing the sunlight tells your body it's daytime, not nighttime. Don't get sleepy, don't go to.

[Harry]

Bed. Yeah. I mean, I think the jet lag is honestly just impossible to beat, especially if you're coming off of a two week.

[Francis Ellis]

Trip. The problem is, is not, it's not changing. I'm not shifting it now. It's the, it's, it's rock.

[Harry]

Solid. No, this is just it now. This is hit until you got to go.

[Francis Ellis]

Back. I need to move there, bro. It's so bad and so up. Every fucking night I wake up and I. I am praying. Yeah. As I reach for my fucking.

[Harry]

Watch, that it's going to be like.

[Francis Ellis]

That it's going to be like.

[Harry]

Four.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And it's 12:30. I'm like, Sass isn't going to be asleep for three.

[Harry]

Hours. I mean, I think you got to start going, ollie Melatonin. That shit will push you.

[Francis Ellis]

Out. What's that like.

[Tyler]

The. So the, the soda pop.

[Harry]

Olipop. No. Different spelling. Oh. L, L, Y. They make like gummy vitamins.

[Tyler]

And. Got.

[Harry]

It. They're. They're melatonin. Like. Well, you'll wake up in the morning scared. You'll be like, I don't even know what.

[Francis Ellis]

Happened. I am scared that you'll be more scared. Deep.

[Harry]

Fear. Yeah. In my life, like, you'll have full storylines that you're like. That never.

[Tyler]

Happens. What do you.

[Harry]

Mean? Because the dreams are so vivid.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Yeah. I had like a dramatic like, flushing them down the toilet moment in college where I was like, get these things out.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Oh, my.

[Harry]

God. Because I couldn't sleep. Well, I just got in the, the habit of taking them every.

[Tyler]

Night. Yeah. That, that up your, your glands, up everything. Yeah. That'll up your brain, the pineal glands. That'll destroy it if you take that too much. Which is why you might have to go all natural. Maybe get like a blue collar job or.

[Harry]

Something. Yeah. Just for the.

[Francis Ellis]

Week. I'm not, I'm not trying to up my pine needle gland. I'm really. Look, I, I said it in the, the, the thing I threw up there on the Instagram, but. Oh, man, I knew I wasn't going to remember what I was trying to say. Keep going. You were, you were on a.

[Harry]

Roll. I don't know if I have.

[Tyler]

Anything else he was saying. He was pouring grease straight down his drain in college or.

[Francis Ellis]

Whatever. Oh, I know what it was. The hours that I'm.

[Harry]

Awake.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Are really.

[Harry]

Scary. Scary like how.

[Francis Ellis]

So? Dude, you're. You're awake. I was when I was in New.

[Harry]

Zealand.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. You know, I knew that people were sleeping back home, but it was like the middle of my day or my afternoon, and there was some loneliness and distance.

[Harry]

There.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. But you could be active when you're just asleep. When you're awake. When everyone else, you know is asleep in your time zone and you have.

[Harry]

Hours.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. To fucking kill. It gets.

[Harry]

Spooky. Oh, I like, I think that's like my favorite.

[Tyler]

Time.

[Harry]

Yeah. To.

[Tyler]

Exist. I feel.

[Harry]

Like. Yeah. Like I live for those.

[Francis Ellis]

Hours. What are you.

[Tyler]

Talking. When it feels like you're stealing time and you're like, you. You have something that nobody else.

[Harry]

Has. Yeah. You're like, there's not a single person that's going to reach out to me right.

[Francis Ellis]

Now.

[Harry]

Okay. But, like, I'm just. I'm just hanging.

[Francis Ellis]

Out. What are you. Oh, dude, I am.

[Harry]

Battling. I'm.

[Francis Ellis]

Listening. I turn on a book on tape. This was the advice I was given. Turn on a book on tape. That I don't have any interest. Doesn't.

[Harry]

Work. That doesn't work for people. Unless you don't read or like reading. Like, I remember, like my sister told me, because my sister reads constantly. She's like, everyone, like, she'll be like, I can't sleep. And people will be like, well, just read. And then she's like, well, then I'll just finish the book. She's like, I'm not. It's not going to make me fall.

[Francis Ellis]

Asleep. The book makes me.

[Harry]

Tired.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And I. Because I have a physical book and I read that and then I get tired and I close the book and I turn off the light, and then I'm wide awake again. And then I turn on the book on tape. The first night that helped was Into Thin Air by Jon.

[Harry]

Krakow. Classic. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Cracksic little Mark Norman there.

[Francis Ellis]

Comedy. And then the next set, I turned on Dreams of my Father by Barack Obama. And for whatever reason, that. That did not.

[Harry]

Work. Well. Yeah. I mean, you got Obama in your.

[Francis Ellis]

Ear. Wasn't him way more soothing of a voice than whoever narrated Into Thin Air, which is a story of adventure and.

[Harry]

Death. True, true. That would be a tough one to fall asleep.

[Francis Ellis]

Too. But I fell asleep to that. As he's talking about, you know, the fucking Kungu ice.

[Harry]

Flow. And you're getting down. You're going down a dangerous path of. Look, you're looking into it too much now. You're going to be. Every night, you're going to be like, I can't sleep without. Into thin air. That's the only way I can fall asleep. OBAMA 5 Adavan to melatonin and the Obama Springsteen podcast blasting in the.

[Francis Ellis]

Back. You're welcome to sleep over, but have you ever read Into Thin.

[Tyler]

Air? Yeah. Bring it to, girl. Bring.

[Francis Ellis]

It. Because if this is going to work, you're going to hear it every night for the rest of your fucking life, though. Yeah, it.

[Tyler]

Is. I don't know. I don't know how to. How to lick this for you. We got to be able to beat.

[Francis Ellis]

This. I mean, I'm hacking at it and then ultimately I give up and then I just scroll deep. Secondary market Japanese clothing websites until six in the.

[Tyler]

Morning. Yeah, they get any salvage.

[Francis Ellis]

Denim. I get into pricing arguments with men who cannot not speak.

[Harry]

English. The only people that are awake, Indian.

[Francis Ellis]

Dudes. They're Japanese. I'm pretty sure they're Japanese the way they omit.

[Harry]

Verbs. You think the Japanese sell their own.

[Francis Ellis]

Denim? I'm not buying denim. I wouldn't buy.

[Harry]

Jeans. Oh, I thought you were buy. I thought you were strictly buying them. Okay, I.

[Tyler]

See. Do you think that they. Do you think that the Japanese telemarketers have the same problems that American telemarketers have where it is like an Indian dude pretending to be, like, down the street from.

[Francis Ellis]

You?

[Tyler]

Definitely. And then it's just like an Indian dude pretending to be a Japanese.

[Harry]

Guy.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Pretending to be down the.

[Francis Ellis]

Street.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

100%. Imagine that fucking accent. Language barrier. An Indian guy trying to speak local Japanese to a Japanese guy. I feel like that conversation gets heated.

[Harry]

Quick. Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Definitely. Well, there's so much to update you guys on, but first, I think since it's our Tuesday episode and this has become a bit of a ritual, we will do the giving of the.

[Harry]

Gifts. The giving of the.

[Francis Ellis]

Gifts. We will do the giving of the gifts. Since it's Tuesday. It's gift giving Tuesday. We do it every.

[Harry]

Tuesday. You brought multiple.

[Francis Ellis]

Gifts. I brought.

[Harry]

Gifts. What the.

[Francis Ellis]

Hell? Of course I brought.

[Harry]

Gifts. Well, I didn't know we were doing that. I thought we were doing that for tomorrow's episode.

[Francis Ellis]

So. It's so funny that Ron finished that sentence because we, again, we did not collaborate. But there is a Vulcan mind melt between the.

[Tyler]

Podcasts. No, this is a different.

[Harry]

Shirt. That's Will Angus's.

[Tyler]

Shirt. It can't be Will Angus has Will Angus's.

[Francis Ellis]

Shirt.

[Tyler]

Okay. This is for you.

[Harry]

Sass. Thank.

[Tyler]

You. Around. Yeah, I got you this. It's from any Last Words Battle Rap.

[Harry]

Events. This is huge. Are you on.

[Tyler]

It?

[Harry]

No. Oh, what the.

[Tyler]

Hell? But the website is on.

[Harry]

It. This would actually be sick if it was like, Roan you were on it, I would rock it for sure. But I don't know any of these.

[Tyler]

Guys. Come on.

[Harry]

Bro. I know this guy, actually. Who's this guy? What's he from? Real Deal. Yeah, Real.

[Tyler]

Deal. Yeah, he's from.

[Francis Ellis]

Pittsburgh. But.

[Harry]

He. He's like an og.

[Tyler]

Right? Yeah, yeah, Real.

[Harry]

Deal. I still seen him in some of your.

[Tyler]

Videos. Yeah, of course. He's.

[Francis Ellis]

Og. I wonder if he shops on the real.

[Harry]

Real. He might, which is.

[Francis Ellis]

A. A source of.

[Harry]

Mine. Oh.

[Francis Ellis]

Really? You can resell used clothing on.

[Harry]

There. He doesn't look like he's much of a sweater.

[Tyler]

Man. No, he wears. He wears flat brims with a tall.

[Francis Ellis]

Dome. Oh, speaking of black people, I sold all my.

[Harry]

Jordans. You sold all.

[Francis Ellis]

Your. All of them? I sold them all. Every single.

[Harry]

Pair. What was your biggest.

[Francis Ellis]

Flip? The off white Chicago.

[Harry]

Ones. How much you sell them.

[Francis Ellis]

For?

[Harry]

$900. How much you buy them.

[Francis Ellis]

For? I got those for.

[Harry]

$160. Damn. It's a good flip. Good.

[Francis Ellis]

Flip. Well, I could have sold them online for 3,000, but I did. You. Because I don't want to go through the rigmarole of boxing up and.

[Harry]

Shipping labels and all that saran.

[Francis Ellis]

Wrapping. I wanted this done, and I went to one of.

[Tyler]

Those. No, you didn't. You went in.

[Harry]

Person. Oh, you got.

[Francis Ellis]

Fleece. Sure.

[Harry]

Did. They fleeced.

[Francis Ellis]

You?

[Tyler]

Absolutely. For all of them. We'll give you.

[Francis Ellis]

25. It's so much. It's so much worse than what you're even thinking. And the number of people who messaged me begging me to sell them my shoes who are going to hear this and be so.

[Harry]

Upset. Is this going online? Like, are we going to see a video of you going.

[Tyler]

In? No, because there are the Instagram accounts and the tick tock accounts of the guys just behind the.

[Francis Ellis]

Counter. Ever since Tracks lost his mind, I'm not gonna be about that life, to be.

[Harry]

Honest. They're great videos, too. They're very.

[Francis Ellis]

Entertaining. They.

[Tyler]

Are. Yeah. They're so fun. Did they bang the bottom of.

[Francis Ellis]

Them? Dude, they did everything. They did everything.

[Harry]

To sound hollow. Like a watermelon. Like a.

[Francis Ellis]

Watermelon. Like, do I look like somebody who's trying to scam you.

[Tyler]

Guys? Could they hear the ocean in.

[Francis Ellis]

Them? Yeah, they smelled them.

[Tyler]

They. Have you worn them? How many. How often have you worn.

[Francis Ellis]

Them? Did a black light test. I wore them a lot. I mean, some of them I wore so much that even though they're very valuable shoes. So I had to go. I went to this first place that had, like, 4.9 stars or whatever. On Google Reviews? No, on Broadway. It was called Laced Up. And I went there and I had like, nine pairs of sneakers in two canvas tote. Like trader.

[Harry]

Tote. Oh, you didn't. I thought you had. I thought you had, like, the boxes so that you.

[Francis Ellis]

Were. No, I don't have any of the boxes. And that was like, the first. Immediately they were like, yeah, loose shoes. No boxes. Yeah, no.

[Harry]

Boxes. Who'd you steal these.

[Francis Ellis]

From? No, I wore these. What kind of a person wears the shoes and keeps the boxes? The amount of.

[Harry]

People. A shocking amount of.

[Francis Ellis]

People. You're right about.

[Tyler]

That. It's everybody on that T.

[Francis Ellis]

Shirt.

[Harry]

Yeah. Yeah. They got like a room of just.

[Francis Ellis]

Boxes. No, I. Trust me, I would have had the boxes, but too many birds died flying into my.

[Harry]

Windows. They're all.

[Francis Ellis]

Graves. They're all tombs. So I went in and they. The guy. The guy, like, took all the shoes out and he's like, I only want these two pairs. He goes, I can't even. I can't even move the rest of these any. One was the Witherspoon Air Maxes and the other was the Fuck. I can't even remember, with one of the Jordans. And he bought each for 200.

[Tyler]

Bucks. So you had to take your tote.

[Francis Ellis]

Bag. I then had to go to another fucking.

[Harry]

Shop. And they shot, but they bought them all at the other.

[Francis Ellis]

Store. Then I went to the other one, which was in the Lower east side. Oh, you're. So I went from no home to the Lower east.

[Harry]

Side. When was.

[Francis Ellis]

This? Dude, you're asking the.

[Harry]

Wrong. Like a month.

[Francis Ellis]

Ago. I have no sense of.

[Tyler]

Time. It must have been when you got.

[Francis Ellis]

Back. Sun.

[Tyler]

Sunday. Yeah.

[Harry]

Sunday. Oh.

[Francis Ellis]

Wow. So Sunday for.

[Harry]

Ball.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Man. I would never do that on a Sunday. Good for.

[Tyler]

You.

[Harry]

Why? I don't know. It just feels like that's. That sounds like a pain in the.

[Tyler]

Ass.

[Francis Ellis]

Nice. Because it's a. Because it's a.

[Tyler]

Thing. Yeah. It's leaving the house on a Sunday, but killing time before ball. Like, I feel like that stretch until 1 o'.

[Harry]

Clock. I call that.

[Francis Ellis]

Sleeping.

[Harry]

Yeah. On a.

[Francis Ellis]

Sunday. Well, now you're just.

[Harry]

Bragging. Roll out of.

[Francis Ellis]

Bed. You know, I do not get much of that. I went to that second place, they were like, we'll take these two. And nobody wanted the most expensive pair because they were like, we can't even move these. Why? And I was like. I. I literally said to the guy, I was like, dude, I said these words. I go, you can. My face in right now. And he goes, I can't even. I can't even move them. He goes, we won't. They'll just sit on the.

[Tyler]

Shelves. That's too gay to.

[Francis Ellis]

Paul. Then sell them for whatever you.

[Harry]

Want. Yeah, sell them for five.

[Francis Ellis]

Bucks. So I don't know, I guess on principle, they wouldn't let me sell them to them for, like, whatever. So I sold two more pairs there. Once again, got my face fucked in the shattered backboards I sold there. And then I sold some other thing. And then I had to go. And then I was like, where? I have four more pairs. Where do I.

[Harry]

Go?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. He's like, there's one more store. Try two doors down. I mean, this place. If that place was McDonald's, this place.

[Tyler]

Was. You walked into a Somali.

[Francis Ellis]

Daycare. I don't know, man. This was like the backwash of that other proper.

[Harry]

Store.

[Francis Ellis]

And I walked in there and I had. They had a bin, a bargain bin. It was just all loose.

[Tyler]

Sneakers.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Some of which might not have even had a pair.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And it said, everything in here is under $100. So I go up to the front, put my really good ones on the. On the counter, and then I had three other pairs, one of which was the Serena Williams off whites, which are pretty nice. And then you're.

[Tyler]

Nodding. Do you know what he's saying with.

[Harry]

These?

[Tyler]

No. Okay. No, no.

[Harry]

Whatever. There's no way you know what the Serena Williams off whites.

[Tyler]

Are. I don't. I really don't. But I. But you've been looking like you've been. I'm an active listener.

[Harry]

Okay. I'm just engaging in active.

[Tyler]

Listening. So you rock it with the Serena Williams off.

[Francis Ellis]

Whites. Anything that's off white. The designer was this guy Virgil.

[Harry]

Abloh. Oh, yeah, No, I know what off white.

[Francis Ellis]

Is. He.

[Harry]

Died. Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And I got all these before he died. So once he died, it's kind of like art where the artist dies and then the paintings become more valuable, of course. And his sort of, I guess, most coveted sneaker is that Jordan 1. Chicago. So I still had those. And then I had one other off white pair, and then I had two pairs of Jordans, one of which was the snakeskin fours. Great.

[Harry]

Sneakers.

[Francis Ellis]

Beautiful. And then these, like, aquamarine ones. And he goes. He goes, yeah, I don't know what you like. I can't. He goes, the only pair I want is. Is the Chicago.

[Harry]

Ones.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And he was like. But even then, it's hard to move these because no one will. They'll sit for A long time. Because they're so.

[Harry]

Expensive. Like, how much are they? Are these the ones that you sold for.

[Francis Ellis]

900? Yeah, but I should. But I should have sold them for $2,000.

[Harry]

Easily.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And nobody's buying sneakers, especially used sneakers with no.

[Tyler]

Box.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. For $2,000 anymore. Because nobody has crazy bitcoin money now or, like.

[Harry]

Fucking. Or money at.

[Francis Ellis]

All. Stimulus cash floating around, you.

[Harry]

Know?

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Nobody's buying up.

[Harry]

Those. That's surprising, though. I feel like they'd still be like. Like, if you're own. If you own a sneaker shop, like, wouldn't you want a pair of expensive sneakers in.

[Francis Ellis]

There? Dude, these.

[Harry]

Guys. Even if no one's gonna buy them, these guys.

[Tyler]

Were.

[Harry]

That's.

[Francis Ellis]

Damn. Yeah, those are great. These guys. All these guys. These proprietors of all these sneaker stores were, like.

[Harry]

Depressed.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

The. Well, sneaker culture is a little bit, like. It's gone, by the.

[Francis Ellis]

Way. The hype market is.

[Tyler]

Dead.

[Harry]

Yeah. Comes in.

[Francis Ellis]

Waves. I think there's no greater indicator of that than the absolute polar switch that I've made in my.

[Harry]

Life.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I was an avid collector, and now I wouldn't be caught.

[Harry]

Dead.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Wearing a pair of Jordans. And I still love Jordans. It's just like, I think I'm a different guy.

[Harry]

Now.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Yeah. And that's what they said they were like. People grew up. White people. No, I was the only white guy in any of these.

[Harry]

Stores.

[Francis Ellis]

Really?

[Harry]

Yeah. What are they all wearing? Sperrys. There's no way you could tell me that. All those dudes were like. Yeah, I grew up at. I grew out of Jordans. They're definitely still rocking.

[Francis Ellis]

Jordans. They were. But they were all selling their Jordans. This was a fire sale, dude. They're selling their Jordans to borrow line around the border. Nautica boat.

[Tyler]

Shoes. Well, the most popular shoe this past summer was, like, those Reeboks that are, like $90 and everybody was wearing them. And you weren't like, a scumbag if you wore, like, those Reeboks, you know what I.

[Harry]

Mean? Which one? The.

[Tyler]

Zigs. Whatever the, like, classic, like, Reebok.

[Harry]

Is. Do you guys remember the.

[Tyler]

Zigs? No. What's the.

[Harry]

Zig? You guys weren't. You guys. You guys were probably. I wasn't alive yet, Tyler. I know. They all know Zigs. Zigs were. Reebok came out with a sneaker. And it was just. It was a zigzag. The Bob the Soul was a John. Oh, they weren't Reebok. No, they were. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Harry]

They. They. Those were like the shoe for like, I don't know, two years probably. Like the bit like. Those were the only shoes that I ever was. Like, I need a pair of the Zigs. And I got them and I destroyed them the day.

[Francis Ellis]

Of.

[Harry]

How? I was longboarding and I was on my.

[Francis Ellis]

Stomach. We.

[Tyler]

Would. We.

[Francis Ellis]

Would. You were.

[Harry]

Losing? Yeah, we were bomb.

[Francis Ellis]

Downhills. Is that the skeleton you were.

[Tyler]

On? The.

[Francis Ellis]

Skeleton?

[Harry]

Yeah. It was insane that we would do that. But yeah, we would go down head.

[Francis Ellis]

First. Did you have like pads on your.

[Harry]

Hands? I used my feet and my shoes got.

[Francis Ellis]

Destroyed. You're on your stomach and you used your.

[Harry]

Toes. I would use. You'd use your toes on brand new.

[Francis Ellis]

Shoes?

[Harry]

Shoes. Never even considered that it was gonna.

[Tyler]

Just. That sounds anything I've ever heard.

[Harry]

Bro. I got off the lawn board and it was like that. The front of my shoes were like.

[Francis Ellis]

Flat. They were on.

[Harry]

Fire. Your toes are just poking out like.

[Tyler]

The.

[Harry]

Like. It.

[Tyler]

Was. They were fully grandparents and Charlie in the chocolate.

[Harry]

Factory. My parents were so.

[Francis Ellis]

Mad. Where were you doing.

[Harry]

This? I was in fifth grade. I was at my friend Johnny Campbell's house is.

[Francis Ellis]

Duxbury.

[Harry]

Hilly. Hilly.

[Francis Ellis]

Enough. Yeah. Yeah. You were hill.

[Harry]

Bombing. That was pretty much all we did for a.

[Francis Ellis]

While.

[Harry]

Sure. It was like midnight.

[Tyler]

Hills.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Yeah. Really? Like, honestly, from like fifth grade to like seventh.

[Tyler]

Grade. Why are your parents mad? Did they get you new.

[Harry]

Ones? Because they just got me, but.

[Tyler]

I'm saying, did they get you a new pair.

[Harry]

Afterwards? No, that was the only pair I ever.

[Tyler]

Had. Yeah, it's just like. Well, you it.

[Harry]

Up? Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Why be mad? I don't know. They're not gonna have to replace.

[Francis Ellis]

Now. You're gonna have to play basketball with your toes coming front like you're the.

[Harry]

Hulk. Yeah, they were literally like. They turn into.

[Tyler]

Sandals. You won't like me when I'm bombing.

[Francis Ellis]

Hills. By the way, Johnny Campbell is a completely made up name and there's nothing you can tell me.

[Harry]

Otherwise. I've got a couple people I know that are named Johnny.

[Francis Ellis]

Campbell. You're protecting that guy's.

[Harry]

Identity. No, I swear to.

[Francis Ellis]

God. Johnny Campbell is. Dude, there's no one on earth.

[Harry]

Anymore. I swear to God. I have. I know multiple people named Johnny.

[Tyler]

Campbell. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you talking like witness protection programs? Like Mr. Smith or.

[Harry]

Something? You know Soup? People call you Soup? What's up, J.

[Tyler]

Soup? I have a friend named Supes. Yeah, but his name's not Johnny.

[Harry]

Campbell. What's his last.

[Tyler]

Name?

[Francis Ellis]

McBride. It's like me saying I had a crush on Betty Jenkins growing.

[Tyler]

Up. Yeah, he's a cartoon.

[Harry]

Character. We got a lot of soups.

[Tyler]

So. So you sold them all? You got. You moved.

[Harry]

Off. Do you hold on to, like, a single.

[Francis Ellis]

Pair? Dude, that guy, when he said, these are the only ones I want, I go, then you can just have the others for.

[Harry]

Free. He said.

[Francis Ellis]

Now. And he said, okay, I'll throw them in the bin.

[Harry]

Who. And these are.

[Francis Ellis]

Ruthless. So he gave me 900. I got. I got 2,000 bucks.

[Harry]

Total. My.

[Francis Ellis]

Bad. I was. I was hoping for.

[Harry]

$3,000. Oh, so.

[Francis Ellis]

Terrible. I mean, 66%. I don't know.

[Tyler]

But. Well, it's also. Now you don't.

[Francis Ellis]

Burden. Whatever. The whole point was to. To get more shelf space. I needed to. I did. I did a lot of good stuff this week. I. I.

[Harry]

Cleansed.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I got back from New Zealand, I had some resolutions. I learned a lot about myself. I have so much to tell you.

[Harry]

Guys. Well, we're like an hour in right.

[Francis Ellis]

Now. Are.

[Harry]

We?

[Francis Ellis]

No. Well, let's do presents first. Let's do presents because I think present. We can't miss present. It's Present Tuesday. Of.

[Harry]

Course.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Gift giving Tuesday. All right, so.

[Harry]

Okay.

[Francis Ellis]

The. I think I'm going to.

[Tyler]

Do. Yeah, that one.

[Francis Ellis]

First. Well, okay, so New Zealand is. I went to this one really cool town in the north of Auckland. When I first got there, that was like, kind of like a surfer town. And they had a really cool program there where the local, like, original people are called the Maori. Yeah.

[Tyler]

People. And imagine, like, Taj Maury, like Tia and.

[Francis Ellis]

Tamara. I believe you. I don't know what that is.

[Tyler]

Sister. Sister. You never watch. Sister. Sister. Tia and Tamara.

[Harry]

Mowry. Of.

[Tyler]

Course.

[Francis Ellis]

Anyway. Yes.

[Harry]

Sister.

[Tyler]

Sister. Just active.

[Francis Ellis]

Listening. So anyway, they had a cool program there where they do surf. They do surf camps for, like, underprivileged.

[Harry]

Kids.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And they have these cool, like, sort of bags or whatever kits that they make, which they say that every one of they sell of these goes towards helping buy surfing equipment and surfboards for these kids, of course. So I actually got one for each of you.

[Harry]

Guys.

[Francis Ellis]

Surfboard. There you.

[Tyler]

Go. No, no, this.

[Francis Ellis]

Is. This is not what that.

[Tyler]

Is. No, this is from a Delta.

[Harry]

Flight. Hell.

[Tyler]

Yeah. This is very clearly from.

[Francis Ellis]

Us. Open that up. No, no, no. This is from the Maori people. That.

[Tyler]

Program. This is clearly.

[Francis Ellis]

From. There's all kinds of cool stuff in.

[Tyler]

There. Well, no, it says missoni for Delta. It's also Emblazoned on the inside here.

[Francis Ellis]

Missoni4Delta. Oh, golly damn. No, that can't be. Tricked.

[Harry]

Me. This is. This is definitely a higher quality than the.

[Tyler]

Typical. Yeah, that one's really.

[Harry]

Nice. This is like the typical.

[Tyler]

Typical. Actually, there's. There's multiple. It's like the Three little.

[Francis Ellis]

Bears.

[Harry]

Yeah. Some free goodies. Like, I feel like I'm opening my. Opening my stocking on.

[Francis Ellis]

Christmas.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Some absolute bullshit from your.

[Harry]

Parents. Oh, a pen.

[Francis Ellis]

Chapstick. Okay, well, you know, enjoy that. I think you might be right. That's not from the Maori people. That's from Delta, the local. I forgot about.

[Harry]

That. What would you guys do if I started carrying this around as, like, my wallet? I was like, it's just.

[Tyler]

Easier. I use it as my travel kit so much that my wife, for Christmas, got me an actual travel kit. She's like, I'm embarrassed to see you with the Delta travel.

[Harry]

Kit. It's a solid travel.

[Tyler]

Kit. I thought so.

[Francis Ellis]

Too. Harry, I know that you footwear is, like, not a major priority in your life, and you were joking about sandals and stuff, but I know that you don't have.

[Harry]

Sandals. Oh, I've got multiple.

[Francis Ellis]

Pairs. So in that surf town, I actually got you a pair of.

[Tyler]

Sandals. Oh, wow. Wow, these are.

[Harry]

Great. Oh, my God. These are.

[Tyler]

Missoni. You were smuggling them off the Delta.

[Harry]

Plate. I feel like these are you. You.

[Francis Ellis]

Use. Those are sandals for.

[Harry]

You. These are.

[Francis Ellis]

Worn. Those are.

[Harry]

Waterproof. These aren't.

[Francis Ellis]

Bad. You should enjoy those. They say one size fits all. I don't know.

[Harry]

How. That's very supportive sole, too, because.

[Tyler]

It'S a very specific size.

[Harry]

Too. This is like, a good way to ground yourself, is throw these on.

[Francis Ellis]

Rowan. I'm sorry that I didn't have. I didn't get one of those for.

[Tyler]

You. I've been to that surf town. I have a.

[Francis Ellis]

Pa. I.

[Harry]

Was. Oh, these are the bottle openers on the bottom. That's.

[Francis Ellis]

Sick. Okay. Okay, jokes aside, I got you each some New Zealand chocolate at the airport. This is real.

[Tyler]

Stuff. Dark.

[Francis Ellis]

Ghana. And you can trade. If you don't like those ones, trade with each other or.

[Harry]

Whatever. No, I'll definitely take this. Which one do you.

[Tyler]

Get? I got the dark Ghana. You got the dark.

[Harry]

Cacao. I got the dark.

[Tyler]

Cacao. What percentage? 72. 72 is damn near an aphrodisia. 72. I will.

[Francis Ellis]

Be. It'll keep you up at.

[Tyler]

Night. Open.

[Harry]

Yours.

[Tyler]

No. Let's have a. Let's have a.

[Harry]

Nibble. I don't want to open mine Right now it's going to be.

[Francis Ellis]

Sour.

[Tyler]

What? I don't think you have an understanding of how.

[Harry]

Chocolate. You don't want to soil. You don't want to spoil your.

[Francis Ellis]

Chocolate. Why would it be.

[Harry]

Sour? No, I'm saying I don't want it too.

[Francis Ellis]

Sour. Just. It's sour so bad. It's chocolate. It's not soury.

[Tyler]

Based. No, no, it's.

[Francis Ellis]

Not. I think dark chocolate. Yeah. Milk chocolate has milk and I.

[Tyler]

Think dark chocolate doesn't have milk. It says it has soy, may contain milk.

[Harry]

Wow. Exactly. So you can crack yours.

[Francis Ellis]

Open. It's not like open air cow.

[Harry]

Milk. You crack yours open and watch it spoil, watch it grow.

[Francis Ellis]

Mold. Sour dark chocolate.

[Tyler]

Bar. All right, I'll have.

[Harry]

Some. Looks like Francis might have already gotten a little nibble out of.

[Francis Ellis]

Mine. No, I.

[Harry]

Did. Little tear in the.

[Francis Ellis]

Wrap. That's the case. That's just from sitting in my bag and.

[Tyler]

Bouncing. Did you try.

[Francis Ellis]

Any? I had. I have a couple bars myself. These were, these were purchases at the airport of. I have $56 of New Zealand cash left and I need to get rid of it.

[Harry]

Somehow. What kind of cash do they use out there? What's the.

[Francis Ellis]

Currency? Dollars, but it's New Zealand dollars And it's like 70%, 65%. Actually, I think it's. Yes. 60% of the US dollar. And their economy, at least from what I saw, has not caught up to the influx or to accommodate what Americans are willing to spend. So everything was fucking cheap. Dude, not everything. The hotels were expensive, but meals were cheap as.

[Harry]

Fuck.

[Francis Ellis]

Really?

[Harry]

Yeah. That's surprising. It was great because it's kind of like an island. Like you would expect it to be like similar to. I guess it's huge.

[Francis Ellis]

Though. It's not that.

[Harry]

Big. New.

[Francis Ellis]

Zealand. It's nowhere near the size of.

[Harry]

Australia.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Five million people.

[Harry]

Total. Oh, wow. That's smaller than I would have.

[Tyler]

Thought. You know there's a whole subreddit for maps without New.

[Harry]

Zealand. Why you have earplugs.

[Tyler]

In? Fucking yapping like a lot of.

[Francis Ellis]

Maps. Unactively.

[Tyler]

Listening, a lot of maps will just leave off New.

[Francis Ellis]

Zealand. How's that?

[Tyler]

Why? I think that they just like forget it or disregard.

[Francis Ellis]

It. It's a strong, strong chocolate.

[Harry]

Yeah. That's the equivalent of smoking a cigar, pretty.

[Francis Ellis]

Much. That's rye bread.

[Tyler]

Yeah. It's dry and it's.

[Francis Ellis]

Nice. It is.

[Harry]

Good. Definitely glad I got the.

[Francis Ellis]

62. That's.

[Harry]

Healthy.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. That every bite of that is good for.

[Harry]

You.

[Tyler]

Yeah. For milk or.

[Francis Ellis]

Dark. I like somewhere in between.

[Harry]

Probably. I like them both. To be honest, I used to hate.

[Tyler]

Dark.

[Harry]

Why? Because I'm.

[Francis Ellis]

Racist. Son of a boy. Dad is brought to you by DraftKings. We love DraftKings. And, folks, the NFL playoffs are upon us. Let's go. My goodness. Do you guys watch? Ravens? Steelers, of course. I think that's the best football game I've seen.

[Harry]

Since.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Bill's Chiefs.

[Tyler]

Probably. I mean, there were some. The. The Seahawks Rams.

[Harry]

Game. Oh.

[Tyler]

Banger. That was equally a.

[Harry]

Banger. Patriots.

[Francis Ellis]

Dolphins. With the stakes in the Steelers Ravens game and the.

[Tyler]

Rivalry. And that's never happened before that a kick at the end of the last game of the season has determined whether two teams will make the playoffs or not make the.

[Francis Ellis]

Playoffs. Felt bad for that guy. He's going to be, you know, bussing tables next.

[Tyler]

Year. Speaking of bus. And Justin Tucker, also a.

[Harry]

Kicker.

[Tyler]

Yeah. On the.

[Harry]

Ravens. I know. Do we wish we took. Do we wish we kept.

[Tyler]

Him? He did a lot of busting in his.

[Francis Ellis]

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[Tyler]

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[Francis Ellis]

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[Harry]

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[Tyler]

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[Harry]

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[Tyler]

Really?

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Interesting. Take the drive.

[Harry]

Down. I wish I could.

[Tyler]

Join. I went last year to Eagles packers via Game Time and you really remember, you know the experience of going to the game more than you remember who even wins the game though. The Eagles did beat the packers and I have high hopes this weekend against the 49ers. But no matter what, lower those.

[Harry]

Hopes. Just being realistic with you, you don't know. Bring those hopes down to about 50.

[Tyler]

50. You don't know a dang thing about.

[Harry]

Ball. I know what. I know what I.

[Tyler]

Saw. What'd you.

[Harry]

See? I've seen. I've seen this Eagles team fall apart once, and I'm watching it fall.

[Tyler]

Apart. They beat the.

[Harry]

Bills. It be by one.

[Francis Ellis]

Point. Yeah. Niners quarterback's pretty beaten up.

[Tyler]

Though. Niners, they.

[Harry]

Have. You know they got Mac Jones on deck.

[Francis Ellis]

Right? Oh.

[Harry]

Boy. He'll carry them to the Super.

[Tyler]

Bowl. They got Fred Jones or Fred Warner.

[Harry]

Out. They'll be.

[Tyler]

Back. Trent Williams has been.

[Francis Ellis]

Hurt. I think the Niners are limping into the playoffs. I think the Eagles are.

[Tyler]

Ready. Soar soaring. You.

[Harry]

Know. You know the. I hate to continue this conversation because obviously we're trying to wrap this up, but the Niners didn't punt for a month straight. They punted for their first time. Against.

[Tyler]

Who?

[Harry]

Seattle. Against Seattle.

[Tyler]

Again. They lost. Right. That. Wasn't their vaunted offense supposed to be untouchable? And then they got.

[Harry]

Smacked. I'm not saying they're as good as the Seahawks are a better team, but I'm saying the 49ers are the real.

[Tyler]

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[Harry]

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[Tyler]

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[Francis Ellis]

Today. Okay. And then I have a really good present for both of you. So, truthfully, New Zealand's known for sheep. That's their big thing. Their wool is amazing. And I stayed at this one place up north on the South Island. Not north, but near Mount Cook, which is their biggest mountain on this sheep farm, quite literally. I had to. I talked about this. I don't know. You.

[Tyler]

Probably. I.

[Francis Ellis]

Listened. He listened. I know. You.

[Harry]

Didn'T. I.

[Francis Ellis]

Dabbled.

[Tyler]

Okay. Well, how much did you listen.

[Harry]

To?

[Francis Ellis]

Enough. There were sheep roaming and buying.

[Harry]

Whatever.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. All about my tiny little hut, which was just sitting solitary on a hill overlooking the amazing lake and.

[Tyler]

The. And it was.

[Francis Ellis]

Tiny. It was ridiculously small, but it was it. I got into WI fi. No WI fi. And I got into the vibe data. Stop it. I'm giving you a. It's gift giving Tuesday. This is sacred. Let me give you goddamn.

[Harry]

Present. Just curious about.

[Francis Ellis]

The. This was near an actual, like, another sheep farm that they pointed me to, where they were. Like, that place is a family that owns that place, and they shear their own sheep and then they weave it into stuff. So I got you, Harry. What? An.

[Tyler]

Authentic.

[Francis Ellis]

Wow. Real deal wool New Zealand sweater and roan. I got you one as.

[Harry]

Well.

[Francis Ellis]

What? Wow. Slightly different, Delta. I kind of tried to pick out what I thought you. I tried to pick out what I thought would suit you.

[Tyler]

Both.

[Harry]

Nice. Now this is super.

[Francis Ellis]

Nice. And then I got myself one too.

[Harry]

So. Oh, hell.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I figured we can be all sweater.

[Tyler]

Boys. Do you want to do an episode where we wear them.

[Francis Ellis]

All? I would, but they are warm. I will tell you that. They are cool. Quite warm. And they're really nice. These are. These were like US$250 each.

[Tyler]

Yeah. That's so.

[Francis Ellis]

Nice. And then the chocolate was probably like 10 bucks each. Yeah. So I spent significant money on you.

[Harry]

Guys. We'll get some Venmos going. This is.

[Francis Ellis]

Sick. Is that.

[Harry]

Everything?

[Francis Ellis]

That's. Do you want to try it on Harry? No, not right now. Will you wear that?

[Harry]

That's. I just.

[Francis Ellis]

Definitely. I went like. I know you don't like flashy shit. So I literally was like, what's the most muted basic. I figure he'll wear this, and then. This has got a little more pizzazz to it. I actually loved this myself, but I'd already bought.

[Tyler]

This. And I ever want to do an exchange, I'm happy.

[Francis Ellis]

To. No, I want you to. I got jerseys. I got it for you, but I was like. The whole time, I was like, I could keep it and then not give Harry his either and have three sweaters, but I didn't really. I didn't really. I didn't want Harry's. I just wanted this one. That's too.

[Tyler]

Basic. Have gifted it for someone. To someone else.

[Francis Ellis]

Though. Yeah, I guess.

[Harry]

So. No, I'll definitely. I'll wear this a.

[Tyler]

Lot. You know, this would go so good with the Serena.

[Francis Ellis]

Threes. Yeah, they should. I should go.

[Harry]

Back. You got to go back. They're 3K now.

[Francis Ellis]

Unfortunately. Harry, I will tell you that if you. If I ever see you wearing that, it will make me so.

[Harry]

Happy. I mean, I'll probably wear it.

[Francis Ellis]

Tomorrow. I'm. It will make me so happy. By the way, these.

[Harry]

Are. Laundry's tight right now. How you did.

[Francis Ellis]

That? These are really amazing. They look seriously nice sweaters. This is not a.

[Harry]

Joke. Yeah, definitely a lot more wearable than the. The Iceland.

[Francis Ellis]

Sweaters. Boy, this is kind of Funky. It says 65% merino lambswool. I'm not kidding you. 25%.

[Harry]

Possum. Dude, mine's like 50. Mine's.

[Francis Ellis]

50%. 10% silk. Yours is possum.

[Harry]

Fur. Dude, the first thing it says is possum fur. And fine merino.

[Francis Ellis]

Wool. That's weird. Dude. They told me it was fucking wool. They didn't say anything about.

[Harry]

Possum.

[Francis Ellis]

Possum. I'm pretty sure possum is like, that's rodent. Strictly roadkill.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Awesome. I mean, it feels.

[Tyler]

Great. One, when I lived in Manayunk, there was possums that infested our.

[Harry]

House.

[Tyler]

Really?

[Harry]

What? Like, who would have.

[Tyler]

Thought? My roommates had a girl over, and she went to shower, and she, like, slid open the shower curtain, and there was, like, three possums, like, a mom and two babies just, like, hissing up at.

[Francis Ellis]

Her. Dude, they. They didn't. They didn't do the play dead thing so.

[Tyler]

Well. I mean, they. They probably couldn't see because I think that they're blind. But then another time, I was getting back from work, and I turned into the driveway, and I saw one of my roommates with a cinder block over his head. He smashed the.

[Harry]

Possum. Dude, that's.

[Tyler]

Crazy. Cinder.

[Harry]

Block. I swear to God, I've never.

[Tyler]

Understood. And I watched. I watched it happen. I went up to the. To possum, and I looked at it, and it's like, tongue was, like, sticking out of its mouth, like, cartoonishly dead. The next morning, I went out to the. The same cinder block, and the possum was gone. And the cinder block was in the exact same.

[Harry]

Spot. Yeah, like, a coyote probably came and ate the.

[Tyler]

Possum. They can't lift coyotes in.

[Harry]

Mank. There it.

[Tyler]

Is.

[Harry]

Coyotes. There definitely is. You talking coyotes.

[Tyler]

Everywhere. Like, I thought that they played dead. Like, this was a different level.

[Harry]

Playing dead because it was dead. You watched your roommate kill it. And trying to deny was it was gone. You got to let it.

[Tyler]

Go. It was gone. It's dead. It was gone.

[Harry]

Papa. When I was. When I was really young, I killed a. A bird on accident with a wiffle ball. And it. It was. It was.

[Tyler]

Gone. You didn't kill a wiffle.

[Harry]

Ball? No, I swear to God, it was, like, insane timing. I. Someone threw a wiffle ball at me. I hit it with the bat. It hit a bird. The bird immediately just hit the.

[Tyler]

Ground. No, it.

[Harry]

Didn'T. And then my mom was like, we're gonna go on a walk. And then I came back and the bird was.

[Tyler]

Gone. Your dad came and shot it.

[Harry]

Put it out of its.

[Francis Ellis]

Misery.

[Tyler]

Nope. Took us. Your dad at a cinder block.

[Harry]

Yeah. I've never got this. The smashing technique. I think there's so many more ways to go about.

[Tyler]

It. Yeah. Would you find their way.

[Francis Ellis]

Back? Would you be willing to pick it up and break its.

[Harry]

Neck?

[Tyler]

No. A wiffle ball is not killing if you shot it out of a 50 cal. A wiffle ball is not killing a bird in air.

[Harry]

No. If a wiffle ball hits a bird while it's in the air, it's taking a.

[Tyler]

Dive. No, a wiffle ball. Do you even know what a wiffle ball.

[Harry]

Is? Dude, this. The bird was like this.

[Francis Ellis]

Big. It was the size of a badminton and.

[Harry]

Birdie. Not even.

[Tyler]

Close. No, a badminton birdie is more solid than a wiffle.

[Harry]

Ball. A wiffle ball coming straight off of the bat. They are thing is sailing through the.

[Francis Ellis]

Air. They are meant to slow down. They're meant to be. They're filled with.

[Harry]

Air. But I'm.

[Francis Ellis]

Talking. This wasn't like.

[Harry]

Balloon. It wasn't like. It was like on the way down. And this was. I'm talking like milliseconds after.

[Tyler]

Contact. I hit it. I hit it with a.

[Harry]

Bubble. Like, this would have hurt humans if it hit.

[Francis Ellis]

It. I think even if you'd hit that bird with the wiffle ball bat, it would have been fine, right? No way. There's no way. In a whiffable.

[Harry]

Kit. It was doing that weird thing where they're like. They're trying to fly, but they can. It's just bouncing up and down. It's pretty dark. Clearly its arms are.

[Tyler]

Snapped. Your mom was just trying to convince you you were.

[Harry]

Strong.

[Francis Ellis]

No. Oh.

[Tyler]

Wow. You really hit that one.

[Harry]

Hard. No one anticipated my strength from a young.

[Tyler]

Age. You really killed that bird hard. Francis. Thank you so much. These are such nice and thoughtful gifts. I cannot wait to wear.

[Francis Ellis]

It. Oh, my pleasure. I think you guys are really going to enjoy those. The kits that come from that Maori village I'm going to, which are for a good cause. Remember, because each time you brush your teeth with whatever's in there, you with the wooden toothbrush. Kids riding a wave. Basically what that.

[Harry]

Means. I mean, it's got. It's got some solid toothpaste in.

[Francis Ellis]

It. It's funny that that one is better, Harry, because Larvis, that comes from the flight to. From la. To.

[Harry]

Auckland.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And this is probably the one.

[Harry]

That'S from New York to L.

[Francis Ellis]

A. New York LA or LA or L A. Boston or Boston L A. And the difference in quality of seat. Yeah. I. Delta 1 for both was.

[Harry]

Astronomical. Oh.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I'm not surprised that my Delta 1 seat on that fucking flight, the 13 hour flight both ways.

[Harry]

Was. Do you know what kind of plane you were flying.

[Francis Ellis]

On? A350. Airbus. Not A380. Airbus.

[Harry]

A350. I was hoping you were gonna say.

[Francis Ellis]

A380. Are those even still.

[Harry]

Around? Yeah, they are, but I think they might just go to, like.

[Francis Ellis]

Dubai. That's.

[Harry]

It. Yeah. I ask everyone that flies across the country, I'm like, would you take flies across the world? And I don't know anyone that's.

[Tyler]

Been. Well, they don't fly over America anymore because they kept on getting hit with wiffle balls. They're getting knocked out of the sky with wiffle balls. They have to go. A country where they don't play baseball or wiffle.

[Harry]

Ball.

[Tyler]

Yeah. That's so sick. I mean, if people haven't listened. Go back and listen to Francis's entire account. Yeah. Of his. Of his journey there. But the account stops while you're still over there and having a good.

[Francis Ellis]

Time. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And then three days later, you. Or maybe two days later, you texted us and you're like. Like.

[Francis Ellis]

I'm. I'm done. I'm.

[Tyler]

Done. What was, what was.

[Francis Ellis]

That? It was a bit of a roller coaster, honestly. The first three days, I was at this, my friend's place with his family. Really comfortable home environment. We had playing awesome golf courses, you know, doing active stuff, swimming, boating, fishing. So I was.

[Harry]

Comfortable.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And I was around people and I was doing things that I, you know, I'm accustomed to and having great experiences and I had no problem adjusting to the time zone over.

[Harry]

There.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Just first night I was like, on.

[Tyler]

On.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Of course, then I flew to the south island and I was now by myself for the rest of the.

[Harry]

Trip.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And I think the second day that I was down, I flew down there on New Year's on Christmas Eve, and then on Christmas Day, I went and did this super touristy thing, and I didn't know how touristy it was gonna.

[Harry]

Be. And what was.

[Francis Ellis]

That? Milford.

[Tyler]

Sound. It's on the podcast. He talked about it on the last.

[Harry]

Podcast. I don't. I don't remember that.

[Francis Ellis]

Part. That's.

[Tyler]

Okay. He went on a boat with a bunch of other people and they were.

[Francis Ellis]

Chinese.

[Tyler]

Yeah. And he didn't like that. He didn't like it one.

[Francis Ellis]

Bit. No, I didn't. No, it's. I mean.

[Harry]

Mean. Look, did you feel like you were in the.

[Francis Ellis]

Pacific? The. The real problem was the drive.

[Harry]

And I was just car.

[Francis Ellis]

Sick. No. I was driving two hours each way by myself and I had no cell phone service because it was up these mountains and down through a mountain pass. So just sitting in silence on Christmas day, driving alone and I was just like. My thoughts were.

[Tyler]

Swirling. You could have hit the local.

[Francis Ellis]

Radio. I didn't even think to do that. I don't think I could have though. I mean, there was. You got nothing. Yeah. Up there you're in the middle of.

[Harry]

Fucking.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. You're in sticks and it's like truly up a mountain. Switchbacks. Then you go down the other.

[Harry]

Side. Is it was the road like this the whole way. Dude, that is.

[Francis Ellis]

Hell. It was hell. And it was pouring.

[Harry]

Rain.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Single.

[Harry]

Lane. You're going like 10 miles per hour for like four hours.

[Francis Ellis]

Inching. I mean, it just scary. Both hands on the wheel. Tense driving. And I was thinking about things that frustrate me back home and I just was pissed off. And then I was mad that I was mad. You know what I mean? Yeah, of course I was mad that I'm in New Zealand in this beautiful place having this once in a lifetime experience and I'm like wasting space and thought on dumb shit that I can't control that is a million miles away that I can't even get to or start fixing or addressing for weeks. So anyway, that was a tough day. But the next day, and that was the day where I was like, I might be coming home. Yeah. After like four days.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I might be done. Period.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I don't like going on boats with other people. I don't like other people being on the boat with.

[Francis Ellis]

Me. No. Especially like 150 people on the.

[Tyler]

Most touristy boat with all the ching chong and all.

[Francis Ellis]

That. Sure. There were some Scottish people on the boat. Scottish people are really warm. I like them. The.

[Tyler]

Scots. It's the.

[Francis Ellis]

Wool. Yeah. Then. Then the next day I went fishing. And that was like the best thing of all time. Yeah. And I'm. I'm better than you.

[Harry]

Are. No, I don't know about.

[Tyler]

That. He caught fish every time that he dropped line in a very hard place to catch.

[Francis Ellis]

Fish. If you.

[Harry]

Put. Let's get.

[Francis Ellis]

Serious. All the browns that I caught on in a bin and put that bin on the scale and you put all the browns that you've ever Caught in your life in a bin. On a scale, I think I would have more fish.

[Tyler]

Mass. His guide said that he wouldn't even catch one. And then he caught one on his.

[Harry]

First. Everybody. They don't say that they're perfect. That's literally like you're falling in love with a stripper. That's what that is. The guide. They're cosplaying to be your best.

[Tyler]

Friend. They're like.

[Harry]

No. The guy never seen someone catch a.

[Francis Ellis]

Fish. This guy was.

[Tyler]

Not. He.

[Francis Ellis]

Wasn'T. To me. He almost wasn't nice because he's down.

[Harry]

Under. Those guys, they're. They're a little bit more harder.

[Francis Ellis]

Now. You've just completely changed your whole.

[Tyler]

Story about a culture you know nothing.

[Francis Ellis]

About.

[Harry]

Just. I know everything about it. You've.

[Tyler]

Pivoted. Yeah. The New Zealand.

[Harry]

Guy. Well, I've watched a fly fishing. I watched fly fishing video recently with. Then they were in New Zealand. And the guy was kind of a hardo, but he's busting balls.

[Francis Ellis]

Mostly. He was. He was frustrated with.

[Harry]

Me.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Because I.

[Tyler]

Kept. You know, I don't probably be in.

[Francis Ellis]

Whimsical. I don't know what the fuck I'm.

[Harry]

Doing. Did you tell him, like, I.

[Francis Ellis]

Don'T know what I'm at One point I got. He kept being like, tighter loops. Tighter loops. Your loops too big. Your loops too big. Which means that, you know, he's like, you're not turning it.

[Tyler]

Over.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. He's like, you're not turning it up. You know, he's just.

[Harry]

Fucking. Is he better than me? What was he better guide than.

[Francis Ellis]

Me? You're not a guy. Standish. Silent, selfish dick to be in the river.

[Harry]

With. I mean, it doesn't sound like this guy was much.

[Francis Ellis]

Better. He was amazing. No, he was incredibly. Except for this one moment where I couldn't get it.

[Harry]

Right. You couldn't get it.

[Francis Ellis]

Tight. And he. He had a fish that he'd spotted that.

[Harry]

Was. Oh, that's when really turned.

[Francis Ellis]

Nasty. A monster. And he really wanted me to get it. That's when I couldn't get the. I couldn't get the fly to land in the right spot. And I'd done well up to that point. And this one was just. I couldn't get it.

[Harry]

Right.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And I finally. I finally was like, I. I don't know what I'm doing.

[Harry]

Man.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I. And he heard the resignation in my voice and he backed off a.

[Harry]

Little.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And then we had a nice lot. We had to. We stopped for lunch and then we went up the river, the afternoon was way harder because the fish were less hungry and they were more wary. But I still caught some.

[Tyler]

Monsters. Then they had some beers.

[Harry]

Afterwards. I know. Looked.

[Francis Ellis]

Great. To finish the trip, the part that I didn't cover, I went back from where I was in that lovely kind of bucolic, sheep deep area with all that natural, beautiful water. Did this awesome sauna thing and then I went down to Queenstown, which is very like fratty for New Year's. Yeah. It's all adventure.

[Harry]

Sports.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Bungee jumping, whitewater rafting. You do a different thing every day and every. The whole street is just packed with these like tourism offices that you book that stuff.

[Harry]

On.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And it's very touristy. I will say. I hope this is okay to say. I got recognized more there than I do maybe in New York. Really? Yeah. As a combination of Kiwis and Americans that were on holiday and like Canadian.

[Tyler]

People. That's.

[Francis Ellis]

Sick. I mean, not really. I don't say that. I just was.

[Harry]

Shocked. You should do a show out.

[Francis Ellis]

There. Well, they would recognize all of us. I was, I was shocked that our reach is that far. But then it makes sense because it's just an English speaking.

[Harry]

Country.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah. What did anyone say? Like, oh, like, what are you doing out here? Like.

[Francis Ellis]

Today? Kind of. They would all. Yeah, they'd be like, what are you.

[Tyler]

Doing? You were doing a.

[Francis Ellis]

Show.

[Tyler]

No. Did you get the sense that you could have done some.

[Francis Ellis]

Dates? I think I could have done something in Auckland, but not at that week because everyone's on holiday so nobody's like, everyone's out of the city. But anyway, in Queenstown it's all under, they have all these under 21.

[Harry]

Clubs. Oh.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. The drinking age is 18, so there's clubs that are, you know, 18 to 21. And these kids are just fucking roaming the streets in.

[Harry]

Packs.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And they're, they're up big time up. They don't know how to.

[Harry]

Drink.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And the girls are like falling.

[Harry]

Over. Are they all.

[Francis Ellis]

Jacked? No, they're all little people, they're all young kids. I mean, I'm sure there were a lot of like 15 year olds among the 18 year olds with like fake IDs or whatever. Yeah. And I mean there were some spots that had, I'm not kidding you, like 150 kids in line to get into this some nightclub and they're just, you're like, I'm trying to avoid them. It all fucking, it's, it's noisy, it's a mess. And I was like, ah, this.

[Tyler]

Sucks. All that. It's all soft parenting down there. That's where the kids did that. Like they, they have an obsession with doing like Project X parties down.

[Francis Ellis]

There.

[Tyler]

Yeah. They're always trying to.

[Harry]

Project.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. They get after.

[Harry]

It. Isn't that where Project X takes place, is in.

[Tyler]

Australia?

[Francis Ellis]

No. The original story that that movie was based on was a kid from Australia.

[Harry]

Yeah. That's what it is.

[Tyler]

Yeah. What was in here? Like a sick news.

[Harry]

Interview.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. He's like, I'm not taking my sunnies.

[Harry]

Off.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. She's like, don't you think you should take your sonnies off and apologize? He's like, I'm not coming. I'm not taking them off. They're cool. They make me look cool. I'm known for.

[Tyler]

It.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I'm not. Yeah, yeah, they're fine with the.

[Tyler]

Famous. Your glasses are.

[Harry]

Famous. Yeah. They show that at the end of the.

[Francis Ellis]

Movie. Yeah, yeah.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Classic. So I'm in Queenstown and New Year's Eve, I go to this really nice restaurant again, 3pm, like late lunch, you know, fucking 16 course situation. Sit there for three and a half hours on my own and I'm just like, I don't want to have another meal by myself. I can't handle this anymore. So I was supposed to fly out of Queenstown three days later, January 4th. This was December 31st. And I was gonna go back up north, two hour drive to that fancy.

[Harry]

Place.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Lindis Lodge. Do more fishing and hiking. And I was just like, I've done my.

[Harry]

Trip.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I feel.

[Harry]

Satisfied. I mean, how long were you out there at this.

[Francis Ellis]

Point? Like, I've been there 11.

[Harry]

Days. Yeah, that's.

[Francis Ellis]

Plenty. And I just, I couldn't, it wasn't just eating alone. Like I didn't want to go out to a restaurant.

[Harry]

Anymore.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I wanted to sit at home and eat a cooked.

[Harry]

Meal.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And watch a.

[Harry]

Movie. I mean, especially because you're not, you're not really having the most basic meals when you're going.

[Francis Ellis]

Out. No, it's, it's.

[Harry]

Heavy.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Meat like lamb and an appetizer. I mean, everywhere I went I had this chef's.

[Harry]

Menu.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Because that, they were like, you gotta have the chef menu. He's known for it. They'll pick the best stuff for.

[Tyler]

You. He's.

[Francis Ellis]

Famous. Yeah. And I know I'm doing Australian, the, the New Zealand accent is.

[Tyler]

Different. It's too.

[Francis Ellis]

Nuanced. It's. But I can't, I can't.

[Harry]

Do. Is it. I thought it was exactly if.

[Francis Ellis]

You heard them talking next to each other, you'd get it. Yeah, you'd hear it. It's a strong Canadian accent versus a strong American.

[Tyler]

Accent. Interesting as notice, like, the Australian accent with brown hair. Yeah, sure. Is it true that you kept notches, like, for the amount of times you pleasured yourself on your penis like the. The butcher or like the barber from Gangs of New.

[Francis Ellis]

York? I actually got a very miniature sheep brand. And I would brand fish that's 45 horseshoe, so.

[Harry]

Yeah. Did you ever get a length on that fish? From the.

[Francis Ellis]

God? No, I never. I think he said 22.

[Harry]

Inches. Checks.

[Tyler]

Out.

[Harry]

Why? Because we were just going back and forth about.

[Francis Ellis]

It. Harry's biggest fish he's ever caught is.

[Tyler]

20. I mean, that red.

[Harry]

Snapper. Biggest trout I've ever.

[Francis Ellis]

Caught. That's all we're talking about. You and I both caught those crazy.

[Harry]

Things. True. We caught, like, sharks. I was gonna say, though, remember, like, when I said the guides get mad. Remember when we were like, when we first got out.

[Francis Ellis]

There? And they're.

[Harry]

Like. They were like, when we were in Virginia and they're like. They're like. You see them, you see those fish? And you'd be like, I don't even.

[Francis Ellis]

Know. I couldn't see.

[Harry]

Anything. Yeah. You're like, dude, I don't. All I'm seeing is blue.

[Francis Ellis]

Water. Like, are you born different? Yeah. What kind of eyeballs you got there.

[Harry]

Pal? Then that's when they get mad. They're like, right. Right off the bow. You don't see it? Like, I. Dude, I don't know what you want me to do. I don't see anything. Yeah, well, they're gone. They're.

[Francis Ellis]

Gone. So that's the.

[Harry]

Day. That's the.

[Francis Ellis]

Day. That's exactly it. Yeah. So I. I just moved everything up and I. I quit on the. The last three days and just said because I didn't want to. I was like, already in the place I was gonna have to come back.

[Harry]

To.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And I was like, I'm just gonna leave.

[Harry]

Tomorrow.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. And I skipped all of New Year's.

[Harry]

Eve. Oh.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. All the festivities. I did watch from my hotel window or balcony, the fireworks. Which, by the way, everyone raved about the fireworks. They were like, oh, the fireworks. Fucking.

[Harry]

Amazing.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Let me tell you something. Roman candles, they were solid, but they don't do a grand.

[Harry]

Finale. Oh, that's.

[Francis Ellis]

Disappointing. The last, it.

[Harry]

Dwindled. Oh, I hate.

[Francis Ellis]

That. It was a whimpering.

[Harry]

Decrescendo. You gotta end with, they don't got the shit that we got.

[Francis Ellis]

Though. No, they did. They had good stuff, but they needed to go off with a bang at the.

[Tyler]

End. The last two years, American firework technology has reached a new.

[Harry]

Height. It's. It's.

[Tyler]

Improved.

[Harry]

Yeah. But all of the prices are skyrocketing because Erica Kirk's sucking them all.

[Francis Ellis]

Up.

[Harry]

What? She's using all the.

[Francis Ellis]

Fireworks. What do you mean? Tell me.

[Tyler]

This. Every time that she comes.

[Harry]

Out. Oh, she walks out on.

[Tyler]

Stage. Every time she walks out on stage, she's got two fucking AKs and fireworks going behind.

[Francis Ellis]

Her. Good joke. I love that. That's.

[Harry]

Excellent. Have you not seen those.

[Francis Ellis]

Memes?

[Harry]

No. Really? You. They don't have Internet in New.

[Francis Ellis]

Zealand? I don't know, man. I don't know what's going on in my.

[Harry]

Life. That's right now. That's like the Internet right.

[Francis Ellis]

Now. Now.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Is Erica Kirk Char. Charlie Kirk's face on? On? Yeah, it's really just JJ McCarthy memes and.

[Harry]

Erica. The PMT stats one was so funny. Did you see.

[Tyler]

That? I don't think.

[Harry]

So. They were like. They were like first playoffs without Burrow. Mahomes, Lamar and Nine. That's J.J.

[Tyler]

Mccarthy. That's hilarious. Oh.

[Harry]

Man. He's.

[Tyler]

Trash. Yeah, he's.

[Francis Ellis]

Trash. I want one time in my life. I know it might come with a human cost, but I want to be at the place where there's a fireworks.

[Harry]

Catastrophe. Oh, that's not tough to.

[Francis Ellis]

Find. I need to be in the one place where they go to.

[Tyler]

Newark.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Blow up at exactly the same time. I want to see it. I want to be there for it and watch.

[Tyler]

That. I don't know if I've.

[Harry]

Ever. I don't know if I've ever been there for the full on catastrophe. I've definitely been there when like, like, you know, one of them, like tips.

[Francis Ellis]

Over.

[Harry]

Yeah. And everyone's like, get the.

[Francis Ellis]

Back.

[Harry]

Yeah. And it's like shooting like straight out on ground.

[Tyler]

Level. What was your Christmas.

[Harry]

Like? Very relaxing. Quite.

[Tyler]

Relaxing.

[Harry]

Really?

[Tyler]

Yeah. What are we talking, forehand.

[Harry]

Massages? No, no, none of that. Just pretty much hung out with the.

[Tyler]

Famous. Very.

[Harry]

Relaxing. Chilled. A lot of. A lot of bush stuff that we had to do. That was cool.

[Tyler]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Wow. I didn't have like a crazy break, you know, Just relaxed for the most part. I got a new.

[Tyler]

Monitor.

[Harry]

Oled. I don't know if you guys are.

[Francis Ellis]

Familiar. I always thought it was.

[Harry]

Oled. I mean, it is because you.

[Francis Ellis]

Say. Because you say led.

[Harry]

Right? Yeah, yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah. You don't say.

[Harry]

Lead.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Okay. I don't.

[Harry]

Know. I guess that's a good. That's a good point. But people say, oh, that for some reason do.

[Francis Ellis]

That. Well, if they do, I trust.

[Harry]

You. I never thought about that. It is. It's hard to explain. You'll just have to come. You guys will have to come stop.

[Francis Ellis]

By. Well, we would if we.

[Harry]

Could. This is one that I'm willing for people to come stop by for. Like, this is.

[Tyler]

Like. It's like when you. When you get a new.

[Harry]

Puppy.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Okay. Come see the kids. This.

[Tyler]

Is. Come get my.

[Harry]

Dog. This monitor, this thing is. It's like nothing you've ever.

[Tyler]

Seen. Come pet.

[Harry]

It. I swear to God, like, it's. It's. Words can't describe the.

[Tyler]

Difference. What's it.

[Francis Ellis]

Like? Let's put it this way. Harry's entire window is covered in moths, just blacked out with bugs from the absolute.

[Tyler]

Brightness. Yeah, you can't see stars in the Lower east side.

[Harry]

Now. The day it arrived, I had to go to Arlington, and it was like I set it up, turned it on, and then I had to just walk away. And I was like, that's tough.

[Tyler]

Why. But that you must have been thinking about the whole time down in.

[Harry]

LinkedIn. Oh, yeah. I was just talking. Just talking to Mook about it for.

[Tyler]

Hours.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I feel like I'm dying right now. I just want to say that I actually feel like I'm like, my brain is in.

[Harry]

Critical. It probably.

[Francis Ellis]

Is. I feel like I'm in a critical.

[Harry]

Spot. You need an.

[Tyler]

Oled. No, he. God, no. You need to. You need an eye.

[Harry]

Mask. They make OLED TVs, but they're like 10.

[Francis Ellis]

Grand. I've seen.

[Harry]

Those. They're.

[Francis Ellis]

Expensive. You wait for Black Friday, you can get it. 85%.

[Tyler]

Off. Yeah. We're making Son of a OLED.

[Francis Ellis]

TV.

[Harry]

Dude. Did you guys see.

[Francis Ellis]

That?

[Harry]

That. There's that company that's doing canned White Russians.

[Francis Ellis]

Now. Someone sent us.

[Harry]

That. Yeah, I sent it to.

[Francis Ellis]

You. Was it.

[Harry]

You? Yeah, someone sent us that. Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Me. Can I just say that I. The correspondence between me and Harry is 90% me, 10%.

[Tyler]

Harry. Is that.

[Francis Ellis]

True? When I started texting him about fishing, it was as if I had hit the mother.

[Harry]

Lode. Well, he was talking shit. That's.

[Francis Ellis]

Why. No.

[Harry]

No. He's sending photos going, this is bigger than one animal you've ever.

[Francis Ellis]

Caught. No, at first I was nice, but then. Then I realized that I actually had caught bigger trout than you'd ever caught. Because you admitted.

[Harry]

It. Well, we don't know. I mean, it's tough to.

[Francis Ellis]

Judge. We know it's tough to.

[Tyler]

Judge.

[Harry]

Why? Because it's impossible to tell the length of a fish based on the.

[Tyler]

Photo. That's not true at all. It's math. What are you talking.

[Francis Ellis]

About? You take my.

[Harry]

Hands. It's. It's. There's.

[Francis Ellis]

Perspective. What are you, Pav.

[Harry]

Bev? Yeah, that was the.

[Francis Ellis]

Joke.

[Harry]

Okay. But no, it's like. Yeah, you're. If you're like, bo will catch a fish that's this.

[Francis Ellis]

Big. The reason I didn't get that was because yours actually made sense. But. Okay, keep.

[Harry]

Going. Bo will catch a fish that's like, this big, and then he'll hold it right up to the camera, and then it looks like it's a fucking.

[Tyler]

Whale. Yeah, but there's other things that you can measure it by. It's like if you know how tall somebody is and you know how. Where the shadows are, you could tell how big the building is. Like, that you could see by, like, how long someone's finger is. If it's perspective, the fingers are gonna look bigger too. Like you can figure.

[Harry]

Out. Yeah. I remember I was looking at Francis photo. I was like, I don't think his hands are that.

[Francis Ellis]

Big. I have big.

[Harry]

Hands. Not that big.

[Francis Ellis]

Though. Trust.

[Harry]

Me. You had the Hulk.

[Francis Ellis]

Hands.

[Tyler]

What? Let him measure his hand, then. Let him measure his.

[Francis Ellis]

Hands. I just bought.

[Harry]

Gloves. That's you holding the.

[Francis Ellis]

Fish. And I went, xxl leaving some room. There's a little bit of room. They're not.

[Harry]

Tight. XXL is that. I didn't even know that was a thing for.

[Tyler]

Gloves. Yeah, he had the freshman cipher.

[Harry]

Gloves. I. I brought my mittens home. That was. That was one big thing that I did. I found my old mittens. I got good mittens. They're.

[Tyler]

Leather. Mittens is such a childish.

[Harry]

Thing. No, they're leather. And then they got the zipper.

[Tyler]

Gloves. Okay, that's still childish. Why would you need the extra hill.

[Harry]

Bomb? Perfect for.

[Francis Ellis]

Skiing. He's. He's on his stomach on longboards. Yeah.

[Harry]

Mittens. You know, I actually used to make slide.

[Francis Ellis]

Gloves. I did know that, like, we.

[Harry]

Would get, like, old or not old. We would just get, like, work gloves and then you get Velcro and you would. Velcro cutting board, plastic cutting board to the gloves and then their slide gloves for longboarding. It was.

[Francis Ellis]

Sick. You're such a resourceful.

[Harry]

Guy. You know, I've been through a lot of.

[Tyler]

Phases. Yeah. Trying to find your.

[Harry]

Thing. Haven't found it yet.

[Francis Ellis]

But.

[Harry]

Yeah. Looking constantly trying to find my.

[Tyler]

Thing. Which is nice. That's like. That's just being a male. Yeah, that's just being a boy.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Do you want to tell us about the Dominican Republic at.

[Tyler]

All? We caught him, we went down there, we brought him home, we got his ass in and out. You know what I.

[Harry]

Mean? Our vibes. There were people like, are we next? Like, were they like, asking you for.

[Tyler]

Intel? No, it's not that far.

[Harry]

South. It's.

[Tyler]

Decent. No, it's not close. No, it's not at.

[Harry]

All. You were closer to Venezuela than Francis was to.

[Francis Ellis]

America. That's probably.

[Tyler]

True. Yeah. No, so I'm just saying what.

[Harry]

The. We were close.

[Francis Ellis]

Enough.

[Harry]

Perspective. Yeah. Did you hear like the 300 planes flying over in the middle of the.

[Tyler]

Night? No, we did it pretty.

[Francis Ellis]

Silently. That's.

[Tyler]

What. That's what Delta. That's what the 360 gets.

[Francis Ellis]

You. Yeah, he flew Delta, Juan. Down there. Yeah.

[Tyler]

Juan. They. Yeah, if you're. Yeah. If you're in Delta 360, you get to extract foreign leaders from banana republics. I didn't realize how bad it was in Venezuela. Did you guys.

[Harry]

Know? No, no. You know what's weird? I remember like. Like probably like a year ago, I was talking to Beau about, like, for everything going on in the world, like Ukraine and Palestine and all that. And he was like, you know what the real issue is, is Venezuela. And I was like, what the are you talking about? And.

[Tyler]

Then. Because he probably watched that John Krasinski.

[Harry]

Show. Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Probably. What was.

[Tyler]

That? What show is that? Is that like a.

[Harry]

Jack. Jack.

[Francis Ellis]

Right? Yeah. Jack.

[Tyler]

Reacher. Jack Ryan. Jack Ryan, Yeah. And he's like. He's basically doing the Jeff Daniels scene where it's like, everybody thinks America's so great, but we're this, like, we're. And he's doing it about Venezuela. Like, Venezuela got the most gold. More gold in the world in South Africa. More oil than.

[Harry]

China. It's always weird when someone's got like a weird thing for another.

[Tyler]

Country.

[Harry]

Yeah. We had like a kid that I grew up with that was like super into Russia. You know, like in like middle school, he was wearing like those Russian hats and they'd be like, you can't wear a hat in school. And he'd be like, this is part of my.

[Tyler]

Culture. I'm.

[Harry]

Russian. Yeah. And they would let him keep it.

[Tyler]

On. You know, kids do that with Brazil. There's like a subsect of kids that get a of bunch obsessed with Brazil that have never been there and will never go.

[Harry]

There.

[Tyler]

Really. People just fall in love With.

[Harry]

Brazil. Why.

[Tyler]

Soccer? I don't know. I think it's just like the food favelas and the hills and the planes juggling on a beach or.

[Harry]

Whatever. Interesting, but.

[Tyler]

Yeah. I didn't know Venezuela was going through it that.

[Harry]

Bad. Well, how was the.

[Tyler]

Doctor? Good, until Nick Shirley showed up and busted our.

[Harry]

Asses. Piece of.

[Tyler]

Shit. You follow Nick Shirley at.

[Francis Ellis]

All? There have been so many things you've said that I have no.

[Tyler]

Idea. Nick Shirley is the kid that's been doing all the Somali daycares in.

[Harry]

Minnesota.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Doing the YouTube videos about.

[Francis Ellis]

That.

[Tyler]

Okay. Have.

[Harry]

You. Are you familiar with the daycare.

[Francis Ellis]

Situation? I don't know. Why? I don't.

[Tyler]

Know. That's big news. That's big.

[Harry]

News. Is it.

[Tyler]

Though?

[Harry]

Yeah. I feel like that was not as big as people were like, acting like it was really like that was supposed to be like a. Like people were supposed to be like.

[Francis Ellis]

Furious. I saw something about Tim Waltz stepping.

[Harry]

Down. Yeah, well, that is true. Last night, right? He was eating McDonald's or.

[Tyler]

Some. Yeah. Tim Wall Step stepped down because of gross fraud and. And negligence and.

[Francis Ellis]

Abuse. Does that have to do with the.

[Tyler]

Daycares?

[Harry]

Daycares? Yeah, apparently there were like those Somali daycares that. Well, there was just. No, there was no one there.

[Tyler]

There. There's no one at the Somali.

[Francis Ellis]

Daycares. Look, normally I'm a little more tapped in. I've been selling sneakers and. Yeah, basically like. I mean, that's a full time job right.

[Harry]

Now. Staying up all night just being like, what else can I.

[Francis Ellis]

Sell? Well, I keep selling stuff so that I can buy more. I'm emptying shelves so that I.

[Tyler]

Can fill them, which is a nice.

[Francis Ellis]

Feeling. I said I can't. I can't buy any more sweaters from Japan until I sell my draw Jordans. And I sold them all. I can fit like 20.

[Harry]

Sweaters.

[Tyler]

Yeah. You're getting sweaters from Japan when you just were at the sweater mecca. Look, Zealand.

[Harry]

Look. They don't got possum sweaters in.

[Francis Ellis]

Japan.

[Harry]

No. I don't know what you're expecting to find over.

[Tyler]

There. They have like giant possums down there or something. Yeah, a possum doesn't have enough.

[Harry]

Hair. This is short. 75.

[Tyler]

Possums. Everyone donated their full.

[Francis Ellis]

Body. What percentage possum is.

[Harry]

Yours? It doesn't say. It leads with possum, which means that's the biggest ingredient. I think this is almost all.

[Francis Ellis]

Possum. Let me see it. Let me see.

[Tyler]

It. It says hand wash and lukewarm.

[Francis Ellis]

Water. Whoa. That's possum. That's straight.

[Harry]

Possum.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Oh, I'm not going to be able to wash this.

[Harry]

Right. Wash in hot.

[Tyler]

Water.

[Harry]

Lukewarm.

[Tyler]

Lukewarm. Do not rub or ring the garment. Gently squeeze the garment to remove excess water or lay flat in the shade. Ease Garmin to shape while still wet. Do not iron. Do not tumble dry, as this may cause shrinkage. Dye may run in first. Wash, dry, cleanable. I mean, those are all the things I like to do. They're asking me not to do that. Maybe I just never wash.

[Francis Ellis]

It. Yours.

[Harry]

Is. It's all possum. There's nothing wrong with.

[Francis Ellis]

That. It literally says 100% New Zealand possum fur. Yeah. But then it says fine merino wool blend. So it says including possum for 100% natural and an environmentally responsible choice. This luxurious fiber. I don't know. I don't. I don't think possum and think luxury, but has a unique hollow core that is warm, lightweight, and insulating. But then fine merino wool is renewable natural fiber that is soft and durable. I think you're gonna love this.

[Harry]

Dude. They'll be like, what do you. What is that? I'll say.

[Francis Ellis]

Possum. Don't be. Don't be thrown by the.

[Harry]

Possum. I'm not at.

[Tyler]

All. Could I feel.

[Francis Ellis]

His.

[Harry]

Yeah. Not. I'm intrigued by.

[Tyler]

It. Oh, it's significantly more.

[Harry]

Possumy. What if I. What if it turns out I'm allergic to possum and I put that thing on and all of a sudden it's just skin tight? I mean, I'm swelling.

[Francis Ellis]

Up. I.

[Harry]

Went. By the way, I'm bursting through.

[Francis Ellis]

It. What size are you guys? I went larges on.

[Harry]

Both.

[Tyler]

Large. Large.

[Francis Ellis]

Works. Feels.

[Tyler]

Right. Especially for.

[Harry]

Sweaters. Yeah, you don't want to. You don't want a baggy.

[Francis Ellis]

Sweater.

[Harry]

Yeah. You want it.

[Tyler]

Tight.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. I had a hard time figuring out what size you two.

[Harry]

Are. I feel like we would both be easily a large Rowan might be.

[Tyler]

You know, xl, double xl, but I'll wear double xl. Just as a nod to the.

[Francis Ellis]

Magazine. Yeah. Right, Right, right.

[Tyler]

Right. This is a tip of the cap to the.

[Francis Ellis]

Mag. The freshman class. Or was that.

[Tyler]

From. No, no, that was freshman. Freshman.

[Francis Ellis]

Cipher.

[Tyler]

Yeah. The.

[Harry]

Best. I saw Marty Supreme. Oh.

[Francis Ellis]

Good.

[Harry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Fun.

[Tyler]

Cool. Why don't you talk about it in the. In chat bcc. I feel like we have, like, a really nice movie chat going in Chat BCC right.

[Francis Ellis]

Now.

[Harry]

Yeah. I must have forgot to lay that.

[Francis Ellis]

Down. I'M on a movie heater right.

[Harry]

Now. I'm on a Mad Men.

[Francis Ellis]

Kick.

[Harry]

Really? Yeah. And it's.

[Francis Ellis]

Good. I watched the first season, then I kind of petered out.

[Harry]

It's. To be honest, it doesn't really start ramping up to the next level until season four, I.

[Francis Ellis]

Believe. Oh, I can't wait that.

[Tyler]

Long. Yeah, that's insane.

[Harry]

Mean. Yeah, it's good the whole.

[Tyler]

Way. Well, does the.

[Harry]

Bus. I'll say a little too much for.

[Tyler]

Me.

[Harry]

Okay. Like an absurd amount of. In that.

[Francis Ellis]

Show.

[Tyler]

Okay. That's what I was about to ask.

[Harry]

About. An absurd amount. Like. I mean, I'm not like, you're prude. No, I'm.

[Francis Ellis]

Not. Yes, you are. You always have.

[Harry]

Been. No, I'm not. I'm not. And you watch this and you go, maybe I am. Because there is a sex scene. It's literally like the format of the show. It's every other scene, scene. It's like, here's a serious off putting. Here's two.

[Tyler]

People. What kind of a serious.

[Francis Ellis]

Scene?

[Tyler]

More. How are they showing it on.

[Harry]

Screen? It's not like graphic. It's just like. It's mostly.

[Francis Ellis]

Noises.

[Harry]

Loud.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Or they, or they like show. They'll. They'll show them start ripping each other's clothes off and then they fade to something else. So you know what.

[Harry]

Happens?

[Tyler]

It's. I wish that someone's putting each other on the kitchen counter or.

[Harry]

Something. There's a lot.

[Tyler]

Of. Like that, like sweeping a table.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah.

[Tyler]

Yeah. By the way, clean up well.

[Harry]

In the, in the 60s, doesn't matter. You just, you, you and then you clean that.

[Tyler]

Up. And while you're at it, cook me.

[Harry]

Something. The men really had just. There was no consequences. They could just do whatever they.

[Francis Ellis]

Wanted.

[Tyler]

Wanted. It seemed like a golden.

[Harry]

Era. It is. That show is like. It's almost like a culture shock watching it. It's.

[Francis Ellis]

Crazy. Yeah. It's.

[Harry]

Just. They just don't.

[Tyler]

Stop. It definitely was not like.

[Harry]

That. You think? No, I think it was. I don't think it was. I think it.

[Francis Ellis]

Was. I don't think I spoke to a single woman the entire time I was in New Zealand except the. The odd waitress. And I came back and I was like, you know, I don't think I ever need to talk to one of them.

[Tyler]

Again. Oh, wow, A.

[Francis Ellis]

Woman.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Yeah. It's way easier to go.

[Francis Ellis]

Gay. I was very. I don't need. I don't know. Like, I was very aware while I was there. I became very aware that one. And I said this, that I Love my job to the point of, like, I don't want to be away from it for that long. I started feeling really.

[Harry]

Antsy. Yeah, I know what you mean. I. I didn't get that at all until yesterday.

[Francis Ellis]

Weirdly. Yeah, I felt it.

[Harry]

Yesterday. I was like, you know, it's Monday after break. You're coming in. You're like, I got. I'm gonna be really productive today, this year. Yeah, this is. Everything changes, like, replying to emails. I'm updating my website and shit. And then like, an hour went by, and I was like, I literally don't have a single other thing to do. That was it. You did 10:00am you did your whole year of work. I'm like. Like, I literally. I had two spots last night. I spent, like, probably like noon until 7pm trying to find something productive to do and just bouncing around. And then eventually I was just like, I guess it's gonna be the shows that's gonna be the productive.

[Tyler]

Thing. What. What the. Your comedy shows or. Yeah, got.

[Harry]

It. Yeah, it's.

[Tyler]

Boss. Maybe you write a.

[Harry]

Joke. I.

[Francis Ellis]

Try.

[Tyler]

Any. Any.

[Harry]

Heat. Working on some new stuff with. About AI, But I got.

[Francis Ellis]

Something. I did write something that I was excited.

[Harry]

About. I got. I got some new AI stuff that I think is funny. But then I'm. I'm also worried that it's just like, it's. Everyone's gonna have AI stuff.

[Francis Ellis]

Now. By the way, really quick in. In. In this vein, I have a lot of cool, fun cities coming up. I'll be in D.C. the first weekend of February at the Improv.

[Tyler]

Then. Oh, see, I say Febru. Airing.

[Francis Ellis]

Me. Do you. That's wrong.

[Tyler]

That's. I'm pretty sure if you. You write it out.

[Francis Ellis]

Though. But I've never met someone who February says it.

[Harry]

Correctly. That's why English is the hardest language to learn, because you're getting. You're getting hit with like, that all the.

[Tyler]

Time.

[Harry]

February. Yeah. Imagine trying to learn English and they're like, well, it's actually February. February. What do you. No, there's an R right in front of the.

[Tyler]

U. So February six year in D.C.

[Francis Ellis]

Then I have Super Bowl. Batavia, Illinois. Batavia.

[Harry]

Chicago.

[Francis Ellis]

Really? After that, what's the.

[Harry]

Club Urban? No, I was thinking of.

[Francis Ellis]

Urbana. No, it's.

[Harry]

Batavia.

[Francis Ellis]

Batavia. Supposed to be a good.

[Harry]

Spot.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Then I have.

[Harry]

Pittsburgh. The.

[Francis Ellis]

Improv.

[Harry]

Yep. Apparently. I'm hearing. I'm hearing that there's a. There's a massive photo of your boy at the Pittsburgh Improv. Mike sent it to me this.

[Francis Ellis]

Weekend. Happy to hear.

[Harry]

That. He said that it's a.

[Francis Ellis]

Mural.

[Harry]

Wow. And he was like, what happened when you were in.

[Francis Ellis]

Pittsburgh? Well, you. You. You came back glowing about that.

[Harry]

Club. Yeah, I had a good.

[Francis Ellis]

Time. You said it was great. I'll be there. Then I have. Is that the cops gonna have Denver, San Francisco, Houston, And I know there's one more in there. I can't quite remember, but just go to Punch Up Live la. Well, I'm gonna do la. I'm gonna do the. Netflix is a joke fest at the Improv. And then there's some other place. Anyway, I watched Punch Up Dot Live slash Francis Ellis. Do you have.

[Harry]

Anything. Oh.

[Francis Ellis]

No. Okay. I.

[Harry]

Watched. I'm still. It's a work in.

[Francis Ellis]

Progress. I watched no country for Old Men again last night, which is a great. If you want to read Cormac McCarthy, it's probably his most successful book. It's a really good book. And there was a quote at the end of the movie that, had I heard it while I was in New Zealand, would have proven a palliative to the ills I suffered. And the quote is actually from a character named Ellis. So there's a lot of layers here. And the quote is this. All the time you spend trying to get back what's been took from you, there's more going out the door after a while. You just have to try to get a tourniquet on.

[Harry]

It.

[Francis Ellis]

Interesting. You.

[Harry]

Follow?

[Tyler]

Yeah. What do you feel like was taken from.

[Francis Ellis]

You? I mean, just being pissed off about. Shit. The more that I stay angry about it, the more I'm losing of my.

[Harry]

Life.

[Francis Ellis]

Exactly. And after a while, I just have to say, you know.

[Tyler]

What? Let.

[Harry]

Them. Let them. This too shall.

[Francis Ellis]

Pass. Can't. Can't handle it. Let's wrap a tourniquet around it and shoot some.

[Harry]

Heroin.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Or what's that gun that they use in no country for Old Men? Shoot. Shoot that.

[Harry]

Thing. Oh, that. Oxygen tank or.

[Francis Ellis]

Whatever. That one. And then he also has that.

[Harry]

Silencer. Oh.

[Francis Ellis]

Yeah. Silencer.

[Harry]

Rifle. I would much rather get shot by that thing than whenever the fuck the air.

[Francis Ellis]

Was. Well, you wouldn't feel. I mean, the.

[Tyler]

Air. You're just.

[Harry]

Dead. I looked. It looks like a painful way to.

[Tyler]

Die. The best scene in that movie is when he flips the coin for the old.

[Francis Ellis]

Man. It's pretty.

[Harry]

Good. It's.

[Francis Ellis]

Amazing. I'd have to know what. What I'm putting up. You've been putting it up your whole life. You just didn't know it. Sugar, don't put that. Don't put that Question in your pocket, then becomes any other coin that's a.

[Harry]

Banger. It's a certified.

[Francis Ellis]

Banger. What a.

[Harry]

Movie. You guys watch the New Glass or New Knives.

[Tyler]

Out? No, Dec. Glass.

[Harry]

Onion. Yeah, I was going to say Glass Onion, but it's the newer version.

[Tyler]

Of. So there's. Is there a third one? Yeah, no, I'm done. Those movies are about.

[Francis Ellis]

Sweaters.

[Harry]

Yeah. I mean, they're fun. They're fun movies. Fun to watch with.

[Tyler]

Family. No, the second one, just, like, they're just. Yeah, they're laying it on a little bit thick for.

[Harry]

Me. I don't know. I enjoy.

[Tyler]

Them. Why? Because it's just like a little whodunit.

[Francis Ellis]

Heist.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Just play Clue, dude. You want to figure it out at least. You don't know who. Who wins. Include. You figure it out. And then Knives out, you're like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[Harry]

Clue. It seems a little bit more like a process to get that.

[Tyler]

Going. Yeah, but it's at least interactive and.

[Harry]

Fun. I mean, Knives out is pretty much.

[Tyler]

Interactive. Was it the same cast or they. They switch up the cast they.

[Harry]

Got that same dude from? He's in all of.

[Tyler]

Them. James.

[Harry]

Craig.

[Tyler]

Yeah. Who's gay in Knives Out. No, in the second one, like, he's just mysteriously.

[Harry]

Gay. He's the one that's, like, hosting the party in Glass.

[Tyler]

Onion. Is it Daniel.

[Francis Ellis]

Craig? Oh, that's Edward Norton, I.

[Harry]

Think. Yeah, you're right. He gets sent to the island. That's what it is. As.

[Tyler]

Detective. Daniel Craig is mysteriously gay. Edward Norton. I watched the Edward Norton movie called the Heist, and it's Edward Norton, and he is. He's a thief in the movie. And the way they get away with all the heists in the movie is he pretends to be.

[Harry]

Retarded. Oh, hell.

[Tyler]

Yeah. He just walks around and not. He pretends to be special needs. He doesn't pretend to be a specific malady. He pretends to be garden variety retarded. Yeah, like you would pretend to be in second.

[Francis Ellis]

Grade. Are you talking about the Usual.

[Tyler]

Suspects?

[Harry]

Nope. It sounds like he's going like Gilbert.

[Tyler]

Grape. It's way further than.

[Harry]

That. Because Gilbert Grape, they never really say what he's.

[Francis Ellis]

Got. You're talking about the Italian.

[Tyler]

Job. Oh, maybe. Is it the.

[Harry]

Score? The.

[Tyler]

Score? I thought it was the. Is it the. It could be the score. Is it the.

[Harry]

Score? The.

[Tyler]

Score? Edward Norton, he just pretends that the. Oh, yeah, it's the score. I'm sorry. Not the heist. It's the score. Yeah, the.

[Francis Ellis]

Score. Boy of Unusual Ability. Obsessed with keeping the box score at a baseball game. Turns around the Oakland Athletics, thanks to his fabulous graph of.

[Tyler]

Statisticals. Mysterious Mets fan. I couldn't believe.

[Francis Ellis]

It. Moneyball meets.

[Tyler]

Radio. He. His like, he just, like his character is introduced in the movie, just like limping down the street, being like. It's like, what the is going on? This is so far away from something that would fly.

[Harry]

Today. Oh, yeah. But it's also like the, the, the, the. The. What is it that they're supposed to be having when they do.

[Tyler]

That? That I don't.

[Harry]

Know. I don't think anyone knows. I don't think it's a.

[Tyler]

Thing. And afterwards, he like, he's like, yes, I've just been tricking everyone the entire time. He just goes back to like.

[Harry]

Just being like, dude, that's worse than the heists. That's worse than the.

[Tyler]

Stealing. Yeah, we didn't catch you for stealing the diamonds, but we caught you for pretending to be a special needs.

[Harry]

Person for decades for.

[Tyler]

That. And he was just living as that, as like a handsome functioning member of society just to eventually get into steal some diamonds. The.

[Harry]

Score. Norton is good.

[Tyler]

Though. I mean, this made me question everything about what I thought about.

[Harry]

Norton. That could have been like a humiliation ritual type.

[Tyler]

Thing. It could have.

[Harry]

Been. He signed the contract like, okay.

[Tyler]

I'm not going to a man, but yeah, I'll go pretend to be. Yeah, it was insane because it was the same plot as the Italian Job, but instead of him being. Because he's like this kind of sinister character, but, like, the only twist is that he's just like, dragging his foot behind and like, drooling. It's so fucking insane. I would recommend it to.

[Francis Ellis]

Anybody. It was.

[Tyler]

Good. It was, it was. You couldn't look.

[Francis Ellis]

Away.

[Harry]

Yeah. Oh, man, I gotta check.

[Tyler]

That.

[Harry]

Yeah. So he went Skilberg rape. Yeah.

[Francis Ellis]

Fully.

[Harry]

Like. You've never seen Gilbert.

[Tyler]

Grape? No, I've never seen.

[Harry]

Gilbert. You're not missing much. It's pretty much just like Leonardo DiCaprio. Darkest movie.

[Francis Ellis]

Ever. Famous movie.

[Harry]

Though. Leo really booked some, like, pretty dark.

[Francis Ellis]

Roles.

[Harry]

Yes. What a. I watched Basketball Diaries when I was in sixth grade and I think it ruined my life for like, two years. Yeah, that movie is.

[Francis Ellis]

Insane.

[Tyler]

Yeah. The basketball.

[Harry]

Dairies. Not a lot of basketball in.

[Tyler]

It, but they are.

[Harry]

Shooting. Oh, they're.

[Tyler]

Shooting. If you know what I.

[Harry]

Mean.

[Tyler]

Facts. Heroin. So happy to be back recording with you.

[Francis Ellis]

Guys. Good to be back. Let's wrap so we can get this episode.

[Harry]

Out. Yes, true. I feel like we got much more to talk about. So stay in tuned for the Thursday.

[Tyler]

Episode. Stay in.

[Harry]

Tuned. Thank you guys for listening. Enjoy your rest of your day slash week slash. We'll see you on Thursday.

[Francis Ellis]

Goodbye. I looked older til you came.

[Harry]

Around I was only falling one.

[Francis Ellis]

Way.

[Harry]

I was only falling one.

[Tyler]

Way.

[Harry]

Chase, we're drifting. Now I come.

[Francis Ellis]

Alive I was.

[Harry]

Only for you one.

[Francis Ellis]

Way I was.

[Harry]

Only falling one way I was only falling one.

[Francis Ellis]

Way I was only falling.

[Harry]

One.

[Francis Ellis]

Way that is true, you're.

[Harry]

Right. Did you realize? No one can take me alive? I was only falling one.

[Francis Ellis]

Way. The bra color just a memory Take my head and you can.

[Harry]

See.

[Francis Ellis]

Sa. No one could take me.