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Dave Portnoy
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Dave Portnoy
I started training a new a new goal of mine. I just got a brand new goal today.
Owen
What is it? Best. That's mine.
Dave Portnoy
And you never fall short. I've never seen you falter.
Owen
I'm trying. Not there yet though.
Dave Portnoy
No, you are, bro.
Owen
It's all about resilience.
Dave Portnoy
It's the climb.
Owen
Honestly, I'm all about practicing resilience these days.
Dave Portnoy
The joys and the journey.
Owen
Yeah, exactly.
Francis
Problem is you haven't been knocked down.
Owen
Oh, I've been knocked down.
Francis
No reason to employ the resilience.
Owen
I've been knocked down, brother.
Dave Portnoy
No.
Owen
You get like you couldn't even imagine.
Francis
Be resilient until something bad happens, right?
Owen
The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. No. I don't know if anyone's ever told you that. Hey, listen, it'll beat you up and knock you to your knees if you let it.
Dave Portnoy
You drink a whiskey drink, you drink a vodka drink. You drink a cider drink. You drink a locker drink. You sing the songs that remind you the good times Sing the songs that remind you the best times.
Francis
When the going gets tough, the tough get going. Pressure makes diamonds.
Dave Portnoy
Pressure makes perfect.
Owen
Been big into motivational videos.
Dave Portnoy
My new goal is to do a front split.
Owen
Really give up on that immediately.
Dave Portnoy
Imagine if I just sat down in front of you boys. Fucking dead. Eye contact with both of you, cross eyed. Hate it. And I just did a fucking front split in your fucking faces.
Francis
Harry drops like a piece of paper or something. You're like, oh, I'll get that for you.
Owen
You know, it's weird and it's not even like. Not even in, like in a homophobic way of saying it, but it is like when we were. When I was growing up, all the kids that were like, everyone assumed were gay who ended up being gay, all could do splits, easel. Like it was just like a thing. Like they all could do. They could.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, that is true. Someone looking you dead in the eyes with their hands on their hips, like.
Owen
Oh, yeah, they had recess banging out splits.
Francis
Uhhuh.
Dave Portnoy
They're just loose. And I don't know what it is.
Owen
I don't know what it is.
Dave Portnoy
Cuz like, they wind up in sports like figure skating and gymnastics. But it's not because those guys, those sports attract gay people now. It's because you, while being gay, are predisposed to having really limber.
Owen
I don't know if you are here. I think it might just be a coincidence, really.
Dave Portnoy
Just a cosmic maybe.
Owen
There's probably some straight bros out there who can do splits and just don't know.
Dave Portnoy
And maybe it's Maybelline.
Owen
Yeah.
Francis
At what point does coincidence become correlation, Right?
Dave Portnoy
Exactly. It's causation. You don't know split. So you're just like, wow, this feels incredible.
Owen
I guess you are right because I remember being little and trying to do a split and you're like, I guess I'm strange.
Francis
You saw a pair of tits go bouncing by, like, I'll come right back up here. That hurts. That's too hard. My body's not supposed to bend that way, man.
Dave Portnoy
The best.
Owen
Absolutely the best. Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Some motivational speeches on the wall just like they had up the posters.
Owen
Yeah, I've been liking motivational speeches. I've been liking. Oh, I started quarterbacks last night.
Francis
I'm gonna get into that. So good. Yeah.
Owen
Yeah.
Francis
I'm so glad to hear that. It was.
Owen
Dude, I started it and I was skeptical because I watched the trailer for the first season. I was like, this looks like a reality show. Like this looks. And it was like, Patrick Mahomes.
Francis
I know all about his wedding and stuff like that.
Owen
I didn't care about this at all.
Francis
That's what made me get out of it. Get in the huddle.
Dave Portnoy
Let's get in the locker room.
Owen
And then I. And then I started season two because Ronan Tyler were talking about it. And it is. I would say I was like, I don't want to see anything. I don't care about Kirk Cousins. The Kirk Cousins stuff is phenomenal.
Dave Portnoy
He is the best story the best.
Owen
Part of the whole entire show.
Francis
Hang on a second. Is this their previous season? Last season, yeah. Okay.
Owen
But it is like, it's really good. Like, it goes. It goes into detail about starts before the season.
Dave Portnoy
He goes into his rehab, his joy of signing with them. Then they talk about them.
Owen
Yeah, them drafting panics. It talks about Joe Burrow, like having. Playing the best football.
Dave Portnoy
He has a gay fashion designer.
Owen
Oh, yeah.
Dave Portnoy
How cool is that?
Francis
A gashing designer.
Dave Portnoy
He has a gashing designer and he designed the.
Owen
He designed the backless suit that he.
Dave Portnoy
Wore at the fashion show.
Owen
He was.
Dave Portnoy
He walked in Louis fashion show, wore a backless suit.
Francis
Did he really?
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, it was him and Justin Jefferson. And Justin Jefferson was like, nah. Yeah, not inward.
Francis
Wow, cool.
Owen
Yeah, it's good.
Dave Portnoy
It's perfect. It's so nice. Yeah.
Owen
They taught. They show like, him playing really well and then how obviously how their defense was dog.
Dave Portnoy
Doesn't him having a gay Asian fashion designer, like, make you see him different as a quarterback?
Owen
Not at all. I assumed his fashion designer was. Was a gay, gay, Asian, you know, but also he's showing up to the games wearing like mesh suits. So yeah, I kind of expected that.
Dave Portnoy
But like, even just the fact that he has the boldness to do that as a person, it's like, oh, yeah, he's gonna make that throw. He can make a layered throw over Cover 2 coverage.
Owen
I think he could be the best in the league.
Francis
Easily. Dresses like he's trying to make a statement about fishing and sustainable fishing, like the need to clean up excess netting and stuff.
Owen
Wearing like the six pack rings around your neck.
Francis
Yeah. Oh, what a giant dude one. That's funny. That was better. You did better.
Dave Portnoy
So statted. What made you been there if you hadn't brought that up?
Francis
Yeah, I allied, but he ooped so.
Dave Portnoy
Hard you can't oop on your own.
Francis
I. I heard a thing about him that made me really respect him even more as a quarterback, which is that I know someone who ended up going to one of those Michael Rubin White parties.
Owen
Oh, yeah.
Francis
And he was there and he said that Joe Burrow was just rolling and chain smoking blunts the entire time, but like rolling them himself.
Owen
Oh, yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Oh, I thought you meant he was like rolling.
Owen
Yeah, I thought you meant he was rolling.
Dave Portnoy
Oh, no, no, no.
Francis
He was like rolling up like, and then clip it.
Dave Portnoy
Clip it right up.
Francis
Chain smoking blunts. And I. It's like, you know, a guy like that, I don't know. I would have thought he would have the equivalent to that receiver that Stands up next to him to catch the passes while he's warming up of a blunt roller. Yeah. Because he's someone who needs to get dedicate all of his time and energy right. To learning plays and.
Dave Portnoy
But he made like he made 260 million. He could easily do that.
Francis
Why doesn't he have a guy right next to him? Some kid who rules the tightest, best blunts in the world.
Owen
He could just stay process.
Francis
Learned the process himself and perfected it and mastered it.
Dave Portnoy
The show starts with him playing piano.
Francis
Does he.
Owen
It's a little performative.
Francis
I had a feeling.
Owen
Let's relax on that.
Dave Portnoy
He was learning.
Owen
Let's just say he has a piano and he knows how to sit on next to it. He's literally just like pressing, right?
Dave Portnoy
No, it was his first time. You heard. You hear the song he was playing by the end.
Owen
I really want to get better at this.
Dave Portnoy
But I mean they couldn't show him rolling blunts. Like they're probably trying to illustrate Francis's same point, but they can't do it with that. So they're like, could you learn to play the piano real quick?
Francis
He's well rounded is what they're trying to say. But I said it a better way with a better vignette.
Owen
His whole thing about going to bed at what, seven during. During the season?
Dave Portnoy
Maybe I zoned out.
Owen
I don't know if that. No, I don't know if that's in the documentary.
Dave Portnoy
I don't know.
Owen
He. That's what he said that in. In past, didn't he?
Dave Portnoy
Okay.
Owen
I don't know if I believe it.
Dave Portnoy
I don't know. These guys need the sleep.
Owen
I believe that, but I don't know if I believe.
Dave Portnoy
Doesn't LeBron sleep for. Actually, it's LeBron. He's probably lying. He's like, I sleep for 16 hours.
Owen
A night like a lion.
Dave Portnoy
I sleep for probably like nine months a year.
Francis
French bulldog.
Dave Portnoy
I hibernate.
Owen
I don't know. I just like anyone that says they're going to bed at 7. I just don't know how that's even. Like, how does that even. Like you don't have anything going on after. Like, I can't go to bed at seven if you have. Like I have people reaching out to me for. If you two.
Francis
If you were friends with someone who went to bed at 7pm p.m. the two of you would never speak ever?
Owen
No.
Francis
No. You'd never be able to talk to each other.
Owen
I don't go to bed crazy. Or I do, but I Don't really as often anymore.
Dave Portnoy
You'd be shift passing for sure though.
Francis
But like seven is seven hours ahead of when you routinely go to bed. By the time he, by the time he's ready to wake up from a healthy night of sleep, you're like, I'm gonna take my last sip of diet Coke and shut it down.
Owen
What's the point? Like, so he's waking up when at 3.
Francis
3:30 would be my guess.
Owen
4.
Francis
And he starts getting going. That's what truly high functioning athletes do.
Owen
They wake up at midnight and wake.
Dave Portnoy
Up at eight because the practice facility opens probably at five o'.
Francis
Clock. My guess is that I go to.
Owen
Bed at like 11.
Dave Portnoy
But he's got to be the first one in the build. Like he's setting the tone.
Owen
I just, I, I just have a hard time finding any need to wake up at.
Francis
I'll tell you why. I tell you why this.
Owen
And I've always, I've always.
Francis
I'll tell you why this is the case. Okay, so you know, as a former almost profess athlete myself. Well, so we, the training room opened at 5:30 and we would have conditioning and lifting and stuff like that. Mandatory team stuff starting at like seven. So if you wanted treatment, you know, because we only had one trainer, two trainers that could help us for like 15 guys that needed treatment before everything. You had to get there early enough to get strapped in and do all your, get your lotion and all the hot tub cult, whatever at a time well before the mandatory stuff. And so my guess is that Joe Burrow, they probably have mandatory team stuff whether it's film or Lyft or whatever at like 8:30am, 9:00am Maybe earlier. Yeah, yeah, and she'll be up five.
Owen
Hours ahead of time for him to.
Francis
For him to have his morning. You know what I mean? Like. Yeah, yeah, you, you have a morning routine. Yeah, right. You wake up, you look at your clock, you're like, holy. We're recording the podcast in 15 minutes.
Dave Portnoy
I gotta jerk off.
Francis
I forgot we were going as early as 1pm today. And then you.
Owen
I was up hours before the podcast today. First one here too. So. Funny joke, but not true at all.
Dave Portnoy
Well why not 4 then?
Owen
Why weren't you were the last one here per usual.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, true. And what, what reason did I give for that? I'm sure I texted something.
Owen
Something. Some nonsense.
Dave Portnoy
Some nonsense.
Owen
Something about taking care of kids.
Dave Portnoy
So I'm absolute. I mean maybe he likes to just have a leisurely.
Owen
It is kind of because you were late before you had kids too.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah. It's the best excuse.
Francis
I would. Much rather I would. This is what I would say. I'm at a point now in my life at 36, where it's more important for me to wake up earlier and get through my morning routine than it is to get that extra hour of sleep and like rush out the door.
Owen
Yeah, I get that. I'm. That's kind of what I'm trying to do.
Francis
Even if it means like going from eight hours to seven hours or from seven hours to six hours, I'm like, I gotta. If I'm going to the airport at like 8:00am, I'm waking up at, at 6:30.
Owen
Yeah.
Francis
Like leaving at 8.
Owen
Yeah. I would say mine's just I. I want to be up like two hours before I gotta. Before I have to leave.
Dave Portnoy
You ever hear Jeff Bezos's full routine? He says he spends an hour in the morning puttering around. He. He reserves an hour specifically to putter. That's like the word he used. He putters around.
Owen
So just like, just like pacing.
Dave Portnoy
I don't even know what puttering really.
Owen
Is, but I don't understand, like that, like that type of, like that doesn't even sound appealing, having that type of lifestyle where it's like, all right, time to put her for 30 minutes.
Francis
I putter a little bit, but. But my puttering is very productive.
Owen
Yeah.
Francis
Yeah. It's running the dishwasher, folding laundry.
Owen
But do you have that scheduled in or is it. No, I just know that some free time. Let's putter.
Francis
It's time where I'm doing that type of stuff and not thinking. God, I gotta get down to. To real work.
Dave Portnoy
Just puttering around. Make yourself some coffee.
Francis
Tidying.
Owen
Yeah, I tidy all the time. I tidy it, say once or twice a day, but I'm not, I'm not. I don't have it like scheduled in.
Dave Portnoy
But is it a frantic, tidy, 30.
Owen
Minute, 30 minute putter or is it a meandering tidy? I tidy. Most of my day is spent tidying.
Francis
I don't see how that's possible.
Owen
No, I'll tidy. I tidy usually once or twice a day.
Francis
What do you like to do when you tidy?
Owen
Clean everything up.
Francis
And what does that mean? Clutter, declutter. So no, no spritzing or spraying.
Owen
Oh, I spritz and spray with your mouse and wash and scrub.
Dave Portnoy
409 Windex. What are we talking?
Francis
It's. He uses the minty Mouth mouse wash.
Owen
Well, I have that.
Dave Portnoy
I have actually was correct. You almost fumbled it and that's actually a beautiful alliteration that worked out so perfectly.
Francis
And it was a total mistake.
Dave Portnoy
Mouth mouse wash. Incredible.
Owen
I have that.
Francis
I have.
Owen
You know, I got a. I got a vacuum. I got.
Francis
You have a vacuum?
Owen
Of course.
Francis
Is it a Dyson?
Owen
No, it's the cheaper version.
Francis
It's one you got to plug into the wall.
Dave Portnoy
No.
Francis
Oh, it's an automatic.
Owen
It's an automatic. It's electric, but it's definitely.
Francis
How big is it?
Owen
It's like a Coleman.
Francis
I think.
Owen
It'S pretty good.
Francis
It's really. It works. It's the one that used to be sold by the guy that. Your wife door to door.
Dave Portnoy
Another vacuum.
Owen
I don't have a ton of space to vacuum. I just got it at like Home Depot or some shit.
Dave Portnoy
The wife came home with a new vacuum recently. It has an infrared green light on the front necessary that lights up all the dust. It's so satisfying. Trick my ass into vacuuming. It's so satisfying.
Francis
Good thing you don't have a cat.
Dave Portnoy
Why?
Francis
Oh, those lights drive those cats wild.
Dave Portnoy
Really?
Francis
Yeah. They sucked up into vacuums.
Dave Portnoy
Use the infrared. Mm.
Owen
I'm gonna get a cat in the fall. I think the probably two realistically adopt.
Dave Portnoy
Don't shop, bro.
Francis
Obviously war cat though.
Dave Portnoy
You need a lynx.
Francis
You need a warcat.
Owen
A warcat?
Francis
Yeah.
Owen
What's a warcat?
Francis
That's one that's gonna. That's gonna go to work for you.
Owen
Yeah.
Francis
It's the equivalent of getting a Doberman.
Owen
Yeah, but I don't want like. I don't want like.
Francis
But it's gonna. It's gonna solve your mouse problem.
Owen
I don't have a mouse problem.
Francis
You said you did.
Owen
I've taken care of it with my routinely sprays.
Dave Portnoy
You won't have to anymore. These will be bringing the mice to you in supplication. They'll be like another mouse.
Francis
Yeah. And also you're just going to kill those cats because they're going to eat poisoned mice.
Owen
Well, obviously if I got minty flavored mice, I would remove the poison.
Francis
The mice carcasses, you're going to finally take care of that.
Owen
Also, the spray is made of essential oils.
Francis
If that mouse spray is actually as effective as you say it is, I gotta believe it is not an all natural chemical.
Owen
It doesn't. Because it's not. It's not. It doesn't kill anything. It just repels them. It's repellent. They don't like the smell, so they say away.
Dave Portnoy
Does it work?
Owen
Yes. They're not Here. Haven't seen one in two years.
Dave Portnoy
They might know. They might be synced up with your schedule.
Owen
It could be.
Dave Portnoy
They do nasty things to mice for research. I would let them live a little bit. Being a city mouse as opposed to being a research. A lab rat. That would be.
Owen
If I could kill all the mice on the planet, I would with one, and it wouldn't even look back.
Francis
They're important.
Owen
Like, if it was, like, a button and it was, like, dead, all of them.
Dave Portnoy
That's the true sociopath.
Owen
Like Thanos. Snap my finger.
Dave Portnoy
They're. No, they're actually super essential.
Owen
I am inevitable.
Dave Portnoy
No, they're part of the ecosystem that we need.
Owen
Of what?
Dave Portnoy
You don't have the mice, then the cats have nothing to feed on, and they start eating the cockroaches directly. If the cockroaches die, the termites die. If the termites die.
Owen
Sounds, Nothing crumbles into the sea.
Dave Portnoy
Like 20. The firmament of Africa crumbling into the sea is a positive.
Owen
Is there a single redeeming quality for my sore rats?
Francis
Yeah, there's something.
Dave Portnoy
They're like, some of the smartest animals. What about lab rats, bro?
Francis
What do you think?
Dave Portnoy
Fouche was working.
Owen
You always say they're smart, not. Not smart.
Francis
How does it matter if not for mice?
Owen
It doesn't matter how smart animals are if they're not even going to ever be on a comparable level to humans. Like, mice are smart. Why? Because they can smell food.
Dave Portnoy
But that. Then it makes it. It's like a ethical thing to kill, basically.
Francis
To destroy to.
Dave Portnoy
To. To experiment on. And that's progressed us as a human. Like, your recourse to this is. Is whatever the Nazis were doing experimenting on humans. You're basically like, oh, we should always experiment on humans instead of mice that will only live for four years.
Owen
So let's. Here's an idea. Let's keep six mice. Will keep six mice on the planet.
Dave Portnoy
Okay.
Owen
And then, like, they can do all.
Dave Portnoy
The experiments on those mice.
Owen
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
What are the snakes gonna eat?
Owen
Dumbass pellets? I don't know.
Francis
Sure.
Owen
We can make some that make their, like, teeth clean themselves or some.
Francis
You're gonna get to a species. You would say, oh, well, we don't need snakes either, right?
Owen
No, no more snakes either.
Francis
Yeah, but that's My point is, St. Patrick, through that food chain, you are going to get to a species that will get rid of a species we really like and need.
Owen
Yeah. So I'm just saying, mice, snakes gone. Yeah.
Francis
But then, flick of a sweat, mice.
Owen
Wouldn'T even think if it was right here.
Francis
Mice gone means snakes are gone. Snakes gone means eagles are gone. And then how do we. What's the point of the quarter?
Owen
And why are eagles gone and snakes are gone?
Francis
Eagles eat snakes only exclusive.
Dave Portnoy
You never saw the Don't Tread on Me flag.
Owen
I have.
Dave Portnoy
Or isn't America based on eagles eating snakes?
Francis
Yes.
Dave Portnoy
There's like, every flag has a eagle.
Owen
I could do without eating seagulls. We have seagulls.
Dave Portnoy
Don't even say that, bro.
Owen
Those are pretty good.
Dave Portnoy
Seagulls suck ass.
Owen
These seagulls aren't bad. There's less birds in the air. We would see more seagulls too.
Dave Portnoy
That's. And I know that you're a Birds fan. I know that you with the birds.
Owen
Yeah. Why don't you. You guys could be the Philadelphia Seagulls.
Dave Portnoy
There aren't even seagulls in Philadelphia. There's no body of water there. There's no gulls.
Owen
Go goals.
Francis
Fighting Seagulls.
Owen
G U, L, L, S. Goals.
Francis
No, they'd spell it G L E S at the end of goals.
Dave Portnoy
Eagles.
Owen
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Wow. Calling them the gulls with just the same logo would be sick. So that would be sick merch to have ghouls.
Owen
I'm just saying. I'm not a mouse guy.
Dave Portnoy
Did you. Have you seen the new shirts that are out as LGBT and it's. Let's go birds. Transsexual. They are timeless.
Owen
But I have seen. Did. Did I read this? Was this a joke or is this true? Are they removing the bi community from the. From the lgbtq?
Dave Portnoy
They're kicking them out.
Owen
I. I think it could have been a joke.
Dave Portnoy
I wouldn't be surprised.
Owen
But I thought I read something that that b was being.
Dave Portnoy
Pick a side. I mean, that there's nothing more attention seeking than being bi.
Owen
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Just be what you are.
Francis
Yeah. There's another word for by horny.
Dave Portnoy
Terminally horny and willing to do anything.
Francis
Omnivore.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah. So insane to be bi because one of them. You're faking it. One side you're absolutely full of and you're doing it to be edgy.
Owen
Oh, absolutely. You're either gay or. Yeah, 100.
Dave Portnoy
You're either gay or not.
Owen
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
If you're like gay and like, you're so gay that you're bi that you're like, no, I'm so gay. I don't give a fuck. I'll go back to where I came from.
Owen
Yeah. You can't be bi and be in like a long term relationship. A long Term like straight relationship.
Dave Portnoy
Because everybody's a threat.
Owen
You lose your bi. I heard you. Limitations.
Dave Portnoy
Yes.
Francis
I heard something so amazing and so damning the other day. Get this. So the divorce rate among heterosexual marriages is 50. Yeah, that's what they say. I think it's probably like more. More like 48, a little below 50. But I think the idea is that it's at 50.
Owen
Bro. Always wants to be special.
Francis
What do you think? What do you think? That was good. I'm in the minority. What can I say? You know, I'm in the bottom 48%. What do you think the divorce rate among gay couples versus lesbian couples is?
Dave Portnoy
Is it like 90 gay and like 15 lesbian?
Francis
What do you think?
Owen
I would say 20 gay, 5 lesbian.
Francis
Okay. What I was told, and I'm obviously, we're gonna need to fact check this. Owen, if we could. I was told that the divorce rate among gay couples is like 10% and among lesbian couples, 70.
Dave Portnoy
Oh. So I was completely wrong.
Owen
We were.
Francis
Both of you were. Had it flipped?
Owen
Well, I had gays at 20, so.
Dave Portnoy
He had both low.
Francis
But you had. The point is you had women lower. Both of you had women lower than.
Dave Portnoy
Men, so even they can't stand them.
Francis
Correct. Owen?
Owen
72% of lesbian.
Francis
72% of lesbian marriages end in divorce. What about gay marriages?
Owen
That's insane.
Dave Portnoy
And then I also would wonder how many.
Francis
A third of that. Okay, so it's way, way less.
Dave Portnoy
And then I would wonder what percent of. Of straight marriages are initiated by the woman? And I bet it's the exact same percent as the lesbian divorce rate that.
Owen
Relationships are initiated by.
Dave Portnoy
That the divorces are initiated by the woman. Well, I'm not like, I Bet it's also 72% of divorce are initiated by a woman. And 72% of basically, women are the worst.
Francis
Am I right, boys?
Owen
I don't know. The worst. I don't know if I would agree with that. Because you gotta factor in all the dudes who are like, it. I'm getting devoted. I gotta. I gotta get back in the scene.
Dave Portnoy
But I'm saying That's only like 30. Whatever. Percent. 38.
Owen
You think?
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, And I think it's mostly women. Do you think that many dudes are like, I gotta get back in the scene?
Owen
I think there's a good amount, but I also think there's probably a lot of dudes who are like, this is too much. They're like, I'll just live my life like this forever.
Dave Portnoy
I think men are way more like it.
Francis
I.
Owen
Oh, really?
Dave Portnoy
No. One does it.
Owen
That's. That's interesting.
Francis
They. Owen just said that they. The divorce rate in the Netherlands is basically non. Existent.
Dave Portnoy
Well, you're about to refute my point.
Francis
Well, I had a theory, but I'm sure that it is wildly assumptive and wrong.
Dave Portnoy
Talk to me. I mean I've been super wrong.
Francis
My gay friends tell me that in their gay community and their community of friends the idea of like sexual openness is far more common and received well and normal. So there's a little bit more flexibility on.
Dave Portnoy
They're all poly.
Francis
You talk about like wanting to get back in the scene. They are in the scene. True. In their relationships.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah.
Francis
They never left to some degree. And I'm not.
Owen
No, I think you're right.
Francis
I'm not saying everybody. Obviously that's not the case. But I don't.
Dave Portnoy
99.
Francis
I have. I have comic friends. Gay comic friends.
Owen
Yeah.
Francis
Who are like they're in serious healthy relationships and they're. And he. Buddy of mine told me he was like. My only rule, our only rule is that if one of us is going to hook up with someone else, it has to be in front of the other person.
Owen
Yeah. Yeah.
Francis
And that the other person gets to choose who the other person hooks up with. So they'll be at a party and they like that.
Owen
Like very accepting, very open.
Francis
Well, it's. Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
And then I need you to. My man.
Owen
I'm gonna need you to fuck my boyfriend now.
Dave Portnoy
A minute of your time.
Francis
See that guy over there?
Owen
I'm straight at the vending machine.
Dave Portnoy
I don't care. This is what we're into. Don't yuck my yum.
Francis
Don't you care about our future?
Owen
I got a good offer for you.
Dave Portnoy
Your dick, his whole. Ah.
Owen
I'm okay. I'm all set. I'm good.
Francis
Well anyway, that was my theory. I have no idea.
Dave Portnoy
No, that's. That's definitely true. And they're probably just like, yeah, so you sucked a little bit of dick. Like we're not gonna dissolve our financial institution over this.
Owen
I mean I've talked about it before. I've. I live right near a lesbian bar. They fight every night. Every night outside of my apartment. There's a blow up. Like you could in a. Between two girls. Every time I fucking hate you. Like screaming at the top of their lungs.
Francis
Is it called the Cubby Hole? Is that the bar?
Owen
I don't know. I don't know what it's called.
Francis
There's a lesbian bar in the West Village called the Cubby Hole. That's a.
Owen
There's like two, I think, in all of New York.
Francis
Yeah.
Owen
So I probably shouldn't say that.
Francis
The Cubby Hole is also on Saturday morning. It's also an Arsenal bar.
Owen
Really?
Francis
No, I can see it.
Owen
I wouldn't be surprised.
Francis
You want to wake up at 5am and catch the new Arsenal game.
Dave Portnoy
Like the lesbian firms fighting against, like, the Everton.
Owen
Imagine being like a bartender at a bar like that and watching the people from the night before, like, file out. And then the soccer fans.
Dave Portnoy
I know that the lesbians could dust the American soccer fans easily. American soccer fans are not all of them, but a lot of them are the worst.
Francis
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Guys who are up at 4. These are also 4am guys. These are Joe Burrows. Maybe Joe Burrows is watching Man City.
Owen
He could be.
Dave Portnoy
Honestly, dudes are just up at 4am on a Saturday.
Francis
There's a. There's a group of clipboard people right now outside the whole foods on 24th and 7th. Yeah. Where I went in to get my lunch today, and I haven't seen those people in a long time. The people who are standing back to back on the sidewalk as you come up, they're like, look at that shirt you're wearing. You know, I'm talking about the people.
Dave Portnoy
Who responded to job ads that are looking for rock stars. We need a rock star. And it's just you on the street being like, hey, can I get a second? Like, they throw you a football and they're like, you want to sign up to help the wwf?
Owen
Yeah. I haven't seen those in a while. When I first started at barstool, it was.
Francis
They were everywhere. And I haven't seen them in a long time. And there's a huge gaggle of them both sides of the street.
Owen
Yeah.
Francis
On 7th Ave. Today, the rock stars are back. And I walked in and I had to pass a guy and he knew who I was. He goes, barstool guy. And I was like, dude, if you know who I am, what the fuck happened to you? How are you doing this job? Did you age out of camp counseling? Were you finally told? Like, I think this needs to be your last summer.
Owen
Pretty. It's a pretty, like, unforgiving job.
Dave Portnoy
I know you have to take just so much rejection.
Owen
It's just. It's the whole day. You're just. You're giving it everything you have.
Francis
It's like being a man getting.
Owen
Getting denied over and over.
Francis
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Hey, man, can I get a second of your time real quick?
Owen
Up.
Francis
Well, I was like, I. I said to him, I was like, I'm sorry. I'm in a rush. And then I went into Whole Foods.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, yeah.
Francis
Which, by the way, I know Aziz has a bit about this. Like, Aziz used to do a bit about this where he's like. And then I went into a Jamba Juice. They were like, you have a second for gay rights? And he was like, and then I went into a Jamba Juice. They watched me come in. And then when he came out, the guy was like, I thought you said you had something to do. And he's like, well, when I went in there, I saw someone making some homophobic comments, and I stabbed him. What have you done? But I went into Whole Foods, and then when I came out, he saw me again. He goes, dave said, it's okay if you talk to me.
Dave Portnoy
Oh, God.
Francis
And I'm carrying a bowl of rice and teriyaki salmon. And I went, I have to get to work. And he goes, dave already said that. He gave the okay.
Dave Portnoy
What. So what is their goal? They want you to sign up to pay 15amonth or something?
Owen
It's for. I think it's literally for anything.
Dave Portnoy
Is it?
Owen
Like, this was.
Francis
I think this was for trans rights. Which kind of pissed me off because I was like, dude, if you're that big of a fan, then you should know that I hate staunchly against.
Dave Portnoy
I mean, you said it time and time again.
Francis
How could you possibly. I always thought Dave would give me permission.
Owen
I always thought they were just trying to get you, like, signal.
Francis
By the way, I feel like I should qualify that.
Owen
Oh, obviously. Of course.
Dave Portnoy
I. That's what I think. I don't think it's just a petition, like, AT&T. If it's a petition, I'm like, whatever. I'll sign up for anything. Save the libraries. I don't care. But. But it's.
Francis
Stop reading online.
Dave Portnoy
Show up in person, crack a book joke. But I. I think that they will.
Francis
You join us in turning your computer screen all the way down to the darkest setting. That's what we're doing. We're calling it the dark out night. And we're all gonna do it. It's gonna be on June 48, and it is night.
Dave Portnoy
Way nicer on your body. I actually just turned mine.
Francis
Now nobody can read.
Owen
I got my on. I just keep my on that orange mode.
Francis
I don't know that mode, you know.
Owen
Like the nighttime mode where it turns your screen kind of like to an orange tint.
Dave Portnoy
You have been way more willing to do recently. Is that why? Because you turned off the blue light.
Francis
Your eyes have been a lot less bloodshot. And I thought it was because you kind of finally cut down on the gun.
Dave Portnoy
You know how they say that carrots make your eyesight better?
Francis
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
That's propaganda by the big carrot. Oh, it's. It was propaganda by the British when they originally developed some technology. Maybe radar, but some kind of technology where they were flying during World War II and they could detect other people. And their propaganda was they had just been eating a lot of carrots. That's how they're able to do it, because it makes your eyesight better. But really, they had crazy technology. Cares. Do nothing for your eyesight, I thought. Wonders for your hearing, so. Francis, you should try.
Francis
Yeah, I should. My next guess, by the way, would have been the Anti Rabbit League of America.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, which I mean that rabbits are not as cute as they're portrayed. You grow up thinking rabbits are awesome. They're rats with long ears.
Francis
The more carrots, the more rabbits.
Owen
I disagree. I like rabbits.
Francis
On paper, you could get a rabbit.
Owen
I'm not getting a rabbit. I've had rabbits.
Francis
Not gonna get along with your.
Owen
They die. They die super easily.
Francis
Yeah, they do.
Owen
Rabbits will get scared and just.
Francis
Can I get you a pet?
Owen
No, seriously.
Francis
Could we get you a pet as a gift?
Owen
No.
Francis
Why not?
Owen
Because I'm just gonna get a pet myself.
Francis
What if we get you one and it's our choice?
Dave Portnoy
A gecko sounds awful. A gecko for you.
Owen
I'm gonna get a tarantula. Be one of those kids.
Dave Portnoy
We're never going to his house.
Owen
Yeah. I got a tarantula in my living room. He roams free.
Dave Portnoy
Those are. Those are bad.
Owen
Look who snuck up on me in.
Dave Portnoy
The middle of the night.
Owen
Just on your head.
Francis
Oh, were you cold?
Owen
Look who came to cuddle.
Francis
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Bringing a girl.
Francis
I said not in the bed, but okay, one more time.
Owen
My tarantula.
Dave Portnoy
What's wrong? You haven't touched your rotting corpse.
Owen
Yeah, he'll sneak up. He'll just sneak right up on you. He loves that.
Dave Portnoy
This lady loves to play.
Francis
Nothing like waking up with a tarantula in your armpit in the morning.
Dave Portnoy
No, let him make a web under your. Under your legs.
Francis
You know, I was pretty lonely for a while, but then I got the trench and things are looking up.
Owen
Trapped to the ceiling every morning.
Dave Portnoy
Adopt, though. You have to adopt.
Francis
Finally redownloaded match.com.
Owen
Please do not buy, do not adopt the.
Dave Portnoy
Well, there's Tarantula Mills.
Owen
Yeah. There's so many good shelters in New York.
Dave Portnoy
They're killing the tarantulas. And even if you have to, like, they'll bring up crates of tarantulas from Puerto Rico and Florida and stuff like that.
Francis
Well, there's such a. There's such an in vogue accessory these days that people get them assuming it's not going to be a lot of work. And everyone underestimates.
Owen
You get the hypoallergenic that goes into.
Francis
Keeping a happy tarantula.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah. It's brutal. It is. Some people say it's more engrossing than having children.
Francis
Did you know that French bulldogs are also a dog that is often given up? There's a huge amount of French bulldogs at. At shelters.
Owen
Well, why? Because they are a lot of maintenance.
Francis
There's so much maintenance. So people think that they're like, you know, whatever. It's a dog that is fashionable.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah.
Francis
And so idiots get them because they're like, I want that handbag of a dog. Yeah. And then they underestimate that the dog is basically dying in real time. You know, bring it to the vet.
Owen
Yeah.
Francis
Give it. Get all that it needs.
Dave Portnoy
There's. It's so sad. There's a French bulldog that's. Someone in my building, like, slides outside every day. Just moves so slowly. It's just such a poor. Yeah.
Owen
They're just in pain constantly.
Dave Portnoy
I feel so bad for it.
Owen
Knows me when people in New York have like, big dogs too. Like, so you'll see something with like a Bernice Mountain dog and you're like, why? What would be the reason that you'd need that in New York?
Francis
Yeah. But that person also has a PJ and flies from Teterboro to Vail every weekend.
Owen
If that's what they do, then I have no problem.
Dave Portnoy
My richest friend in New York had a. A massive dog.
Owen
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
A huge.
Owen
I'm just not a fan of like studio apartment husky or like an Australian.
Dave Portnoy
He thinks he's a small dog. Yeah. He's just all in all over your entire apartment.
Owen
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Dave Portnoy
The fact that dogs can herd like that. Have you ever seen the video of the dog that herds at like a Texas state fair or something?
Francis
Oh, yes. Separates the black sheep from the white sheep.
Dave Portnoy
So impressive.
Francis
I did see that it's actually a descendant, a longtime descendant of one of the great German shepherds from the segregation era.
Dave Portnoy
Really?
Francis
Of America.
Dave Portnoy
Wow.
Francis
I was famous for, you know, ensuring that colored folk use the right water fountain.
Dave Portnoy
No, that's how they train them at water Fountains and bathrooms. They train the shepherds.
Francis
So you can see why separating white from black would.
Dave Portnoy
It's deplorable.
Francis
It's inherent.
Dave Portnoy
Why don't you display that with this here Oreo? Show me exactly what you mean with this. Tupac Shakur of Oreos.
Francis
Wow, look at that. Did you notice that I went into the snack closet the other day and I opened up the big box of the Oreos and there's three different types. There's double stuff stuff. There's the white cream ones, which are unbelievable.
Dave Portnoy
Oh, really? I think those are an abomination.
Francis
You don't like those? And then there's these basic ones. And we. We only had the basics left, which basically means we are, as an office fat.
Owen
Nah, I don't know. Because no one wants the, like, no one wants. Everyone wants the double stuff. It's like, once they made the double.
Dave Portnoy
Why'd you wish for that?
Owen
Once they made the double.
Dave Portnoy
Once they made the double stuff, they.
Owen
Should have just come to making the regular ones. No one's like, I want to. Let me get one that tastes worse. Do you have the less good version of these?
Dave Portnoy
You used to make something way worse. You still carry that?
Francis
Yeah, yeah, but nobody wants triple stuff.
Dave Portnoy
No, they definitely make triple stuff.
Francis
They do, but nobody wants them too much stuff.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, it's like those milk bar cakes. They're so sweet.
Owen
As I was in, I would have changed double stuff to just the traditional. Just lose double stuff. That's now the Oreo.
Francis
It's like the third porn star in an all internal gang bang. You're like, really? I got to get in there after the two guys before me already finished?
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, that is nuts. But people's. There's no bounds to how much people want to snack, how much people want sodies.
Francis
I like bringing up pornographic references because I know it makes sass a little squeamish.
Owen
Yeah, not at all.
Francis
You're not big on in dirty intercourse references.
Dave Portnoy
The repression, that crazy repression that you have going on sexually. You have a crazy sexual repression. And you'll let it out. Just keep going. To betterhelp if you came in as.
Francis
A great sexual repression.
Dave Portnoy
A friend of mine said that he went on a first date with a girl to a sex party.
Owen
Like a public sex, like an orgy.
Dave Portnoy
But I. I don't know if I guess it's an orgy, but like, I was like a party in Brooklyn. It was like, in Brooklyn, you brought.
Owen
It to like a Bonnie meet up.
Dave Portnoy
Just the line of a thousand dudes in one of Them.
Owen
What are we waiting in line for?
Dave Portnoy
Why is everybody. It's really good. This place is, like, the best in town.
Owen
Waiting for three hours.
Dave Portnoy
Anything worth a line, you have one.
Owen
Of those buzzers that you get at.
Dave Portnoy
Like, Applebee's, you take a ticket. The buzzers for the bonnet.
Owen
It's our turn.
Dave Portnoy
Oh, here. Hurry, hurry, hurry.
Francis
4:13. Is that.
Owen
Is that. And then you walk in, and it's Bonnie blue in a glass box.
Francis
A very smudged, very foggy glass ass box.
Dave Portnoy
Slip as you walk in.
Owen
I think we got, like, 45 minutes.
Dave Portnoy
You guys didn't call. 452. You're at 600. I don't know if there was. You guys missed me. Oh, what was it again that you wanted?
Owen
So sorry, sir.
Dave Portnoy
You can hop right in after this guy.
Owen
We'll get on that.
Dave Portnoy
Oh, man. I think they said they went to, like, a private room and then, like, eventually do people just, like, matriculated and just people just, like, came into the room. Literally, I guess. Gross. They also have the Annie's pretzels in there. The Annie's snacks. I think that the cheddar ones of the Annie's are so much better than the cake ones.
Owen
I think it's time to drop Annie's as a snack.
Dave Portnoy
You think the Annie's is dead?
Owen
Their Mac and cheese is good. They're never gonna be goldfish.
Dave Portnoy
I thought you said you like.
Owen
Their.
Dave Portnoy
Mac and cheese is crack.
Francis
Yeah. When the powder gets stuck in one of the shells, you get that one bite of deep, deep tang.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah. That's so nice, that tang.
Owen
It's like one Dorito.
Dave Portnoy
I thought you liked bunnies, though. Yeah. 10 seconds ago you're sucking off bunnies. Now you want to kill Annie.
Owen
I think everyone knows I like fish a little bit more.
Dave Portnoy
Bunny's ears don't really, like, stick up like that either. This is like, the cartoon bunny, everybody, huh?
Owen
Mid hop.
Dave Portnoy
I don't even. Bunny's hops aren't even that impressive.
Owen
It sounds like you've never seen a bunny.
Dave Portnoy
I've seen bunnies all the time, dude.
Francis
You ever see a snake eating a rabbit?
Dave Portnoy
That's nice.
Owen
No, I did. Like I said, I hate snakes.
Dave Portnoy
Indiana Jones over here.
Owen
Like, snakes and spiders and mice. Like, it's on site.
Francis
Indoor Anna Jones over here.
Owen
Cockroaches. Like, cockroaches are, like, annoying, but, like, they don't gross me out.
Dave Portnoy
Massachusetts. Jones over here. Cockroaches don't.
Owen
Not to the extent that mice do. Mice. It's like cockroaches. It's like, like. It's like the equivalent of like finding a Lego on the ground. A mouse is like, this is a living thing.
Dave Portnoy
Well, if mice were more chill about it. If mice weren't like sprinting.
Owen
Dude, they move like 900 miles.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, that's what gives me anxiety. It's just they're like, whoa. The was that if they just like kind of meandered around, you're like leave. And they're like kind of like drag their.
Owen
Just toss it outside.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, that'd be fine.
Francis
How much of our disgust over. See, for me, mice don't discuss me. And you know why?
Owen
Because you don't have them.
Francis
No, cuz the name Mouse cute little mouse, Mickey Mouse is as palpable of a. And it's an. It induces bile.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah. It hurts to say roach.
Owen
It might be because I've never had more than one roach at a time.
Francis
You go, you. You have so many cockroaches that you've. Now you just go roach for sure.
Dave Portnoy
It's like saying goals just roach to you.
Owen
I mean, I think roaches is pretty common. Roach. Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Suck my car.
Francis
I can't remember the last time I, I called them roaches. I always thought a roach was the, the very end of a joint that you kind of smoked with tweezers before you had money.
Dave Portnoy
Did you guys ever watch the video the that's funny. The. The Dave the Day video at the porn convention when the ladies like talk dirty to me and he's like, suck my.
Owen
I haven't seen that. But I've seen the videos of Dave at the porn conventions. I just haven't seen that one.
Dave Portnoy
So funny. Suck my.
Owen
Like Devlin's gay joker. I like the.
Dave Portnoy
So funny.
Owen
Have you ever seen that?
Francis
No.
Owen
We did, we. We did the. When we were on the Yak, we did the Barstool Idol and this dude Zach, who's a comedian and Nashville. Zach Town said, yeah, he's actually opening.
Francis
For Theo now for me in Nashville. Yeah, he did my zany show. He like hosted the zany show.
Owen
He did a. He was on it and he did a character called Horny Batman. And he went around like interviewing people and he went up to Devlin and he was like, what makes you horny? And he was like, I like the cop.
Dave Portnoy
He's like, actually, I like the cop.
Owen
It was so funny.
Dave Portnoy
The goker, the gay joker.
Francis
Did he do a joker impression?
Dave Portnoy
I guess he'll dress up head to toe and be the gay joker. He'll like run around New York City without cameras. Just Being the gay jokers.
Owen
Love of the game.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, that's so funny. Oh man. But that dude, when he is like a funny comic and then he came to Barstow Idol and only would do horny. Batman, like he has so many other bits. He's like other successful comedy online but would only do horny, which is actually a way funnier bit.
Owen
I know.
Dave Portnoy
It is funny in totality.
Francis
I mean, dude, honestly, if I had to guess and I could be dead wrong about this, the future at barstool for stand up comedians is closed. I don't think we will. I don't think we'll ever hire or I don't know if a hiring a stand up here will ever work again.
Owen
I don't know about that. I mean, I don't know who we would hire in New York. Like New York. I don't think they're hiring anybody. I mean, I'm sure Chicago's got some good stand ups.
Francis
Yeah. I just think that, I don't know, it's a different thing. The idea of like buying into this world is anathema to most standups.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah. I think it's way more likely that people start at barstool and then become stand ups. Exactly. They're like, oh, I like to perform in front of people. I have a built in fan base and I can write some.
Francis
Right.
Owen
Yeah, agreed.
Dave Portnoy
Totally. Well then let's, let's talk no more on that subject.
Owen
Let's move on.
Francis
Boy, that guy. Why did that get uncomfortable? I wasn't. I don't think it did.
Owen
I don't think it did either.
Dave Portnoy
I wasn't uncomfortable.
Francis
Oh, well, usually when people are like, let's move on.
Dave Portnoy
Oh, no, I was just.
Francis
It's indicative that I've stepped in it.
Dave Portnoy
No, no, I don't think you have. I, I think that that's a. I'm curious to know more about why. Why you think that.
Owen
Honestly, you up too late.
Francis
You guys said move on. I shall heed.
Owen
We're already moving on and we're already on.
Dave Portnoy
No, now I can't leave it. Why would.
Francis
You know why? You know why?
Dave Portnoy
Good spot at barstool. Because it's the same discipline.
Owen
It's because they're afraid to step in the lines, Dan.
Dave Portnoy
That's a fact. Yeah, they just want to run to the stage to be center of their own world. They really can't take the heat.
Owen
A lot of people can't take the heat.
Dave Portnoy
The comments, there's no comment section and stand up comedy, I'll tell you that much. Unless you have your own podcast, in which case there will be a nasty subreddit about you. True. All comedian subreddits. Kill them if you get successful enough.
Owen
I mean, all subreddits in general hate.
Dave Portnoy
The thing they purport to love.
Owen
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Might say more about Reddit. Sub.
Francis
I forgot. You know, living upstate, I. I don't. I don't really. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't run into people who know who I am up there. It's all. I mean, I guess you could say we all know each other. It's a pretty small community, but I'm certainly not.
Dave Portnoy
And you were saying the most delightful banjo player came to the co op the other day.
Francis
Yeah, the farmer's market. We had Fergie Ferguson and the Bluegrass six.
Dave Portnoy
That video is that shot in. The video was the funniest of you sitting cross legged while that guy played the guitar.
Francis
I was really hoping there would be some kids doing it, but I had to set the tone and nobody joined me.
Dave Portnoy
Did the guy think you were making fun of him?
Francis
I gave him 10 bucks first or second after.
Dave Portnoy
Sorry. Sorry about that.
Francis
That vid's doing well. Picked up some steam that's closing in on a million views.
Owen
It'll change the world.
Dave Portnoy
I mean, it's just good, clean fun.
Francis
This is silly little thing.
Dave Portnoy
Did you see. Did you guys watch the clip that Adam Schefter posted about what golfer was it? Scotty Scheffler, who's like, you get to the top and it's like. And you feel nothing. You're like happy for a couple minutes when you win the major day.
Francis
Right? But he said that. Yeah, I didn't watch it. Everyone was like, you should watch this. And I didn't. But now I'm going to because you recommended it.
Dave Portnoy
It's just pretty interesting, actually. It's kind of sad. I think he might be depressed.
Francis
Yeah. Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Honestly, he's like, you get to the top and you just don't feel something in the career isn't fulfilling because you worked your whole life for this. And you're like, okay, what's for dinner now? I just won the championship. He's that. He's actually definitely depressed.
Owen
He's definitely depressed.
Dave Portnoy
Definitely got some.
Owen
He had like the best years of his entire career.
Dave Portnoy
He's so successful.
Owen
Has he.
Francis
Yeah, probably two years. I would say he's maybe even three. I mean, he won the Masters three years ago and then he won it again a year ago. So he won, then he didn't win, and then he won it again. He won the PGA this year.
Owen
Yeah.
Francis
And he's been number one in the world for. Yeah, a few years now.
Owen
Mountaintop's lonely.
Dave Portnoy
That's why that Miley Cyrus had it on point, bro.
Owen
The climb Scotty winced for. There were no more courses to concert to conquer.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, he really did. That is sad for him.
Owen
But I mean, it probably does. Like, if you love golf your entire life and now it's like you go back to your home course and you shoot 15 under, probably like, you know.
Dave Portnoy
How easy this is for me.
Owen
Yeah. Yeah.
Francis
I could see him being like, I've made the decision to play baseball. It's what my dad always wanted me to do.
Dave Portnoy
That probably is why Michael Jordan.
Francis
That's exactly why he did that.
Dave Portnoy
He's like, yeah, it sucks. It's. I'm so good at this that it just sucks now. I mean, if I went learning basketball than playing.
Owen
If I went fishing and I caught a fish every single cast, I would probably be like, all right, I think I get it.
Dave Portnoy
It's like hunting for buffalo on the Oregon trail.
Francis
It's why I have a hard time continuing to do roan.com challeng against SASS. Get to a point where you're like, I'm just beating up the kid in the wheelchair here.
Dave Portnoy
I thought that's why you were going to say about standups. Just like you have mastered the craft.
Francis
I am a little. Well, you know what? I'm not going to say that.
Dave Portnoy
Please come see. Please come see Francis.
Francis
Yeah, Lots of fun dates this fall.
Dave Portnoy
The Fall of Francis is a great tour name.
Owen
Yeah, the Fall of Francis.
Francis
I made that poster based off of the. The post poster for the Diddy doc. The Fall of Diddy.
Owen
Did you use Chat gbt?
Francis
No, I used. I use the graphic designers because I like to give them the business.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah.
Francis
And I feel bad that they're into. All of their jobs are.
Owen
Yeah. Big time.
Dave Portnoy
There's still some really good graphic designers out there, though.
Francis
Yeah, there are. But like that. I mean, that's. That's almost literally the thing that I think will be replaced the quickest graphic design, kinda. It's like you tell ChatGPT is an unbelievable graphic designer.
Dave Portnoy
Make me a logo about my business for beef jerky that incorporates a longhorn cow in the logo. Yeah, it's on. It's on it. True.
Francis
You're like, oh, make it less this, make it less that that.
Dave Portnoy
You know who's who can't get replaced? Those interior designers. Those queens. They literally can't get replaced. You know Sarah Sherman Samuel the goat interior designer. She's so good.
Francis
Is she now?
Dave Portnoy
Dude, look up her. I commented on one of her Instagram posts and she responded. I was so gassed.
Francis
That's cool.
Owen
Yeah, that's big.
Francis
I got a little bit into design interior. Yeah. For my place upstate. My home.
Dave Portnoy
Mid century modern. What are we talking?
Francis
I like to mix worlds a little bit, but I'm staying with neutral palettes mostly. You know, browns and creams and tans of course. But lighting is the thing.
Owen
I got creams, tans, whites.
Dave Portnoy
What kind of like a low lighting?
Francis
No, just the light fixtures. Like I, you know, pendants versus chandeliers. You got sconces, lights.
Owen
I know it.
Francis
Huh.
Owen
I bet you got bright ass lights.
Francis
When Bo and Peters and all those guys come and, and stay at my place when you guys come, you're the first thing you're gonna comment on is how great the lighting is.
Owen
I feel like it's one of those places where like you gotta piss in the middle of the night and you turn on the lights. It's like a flash grenade went off.
Francis
No, it's the opposite.
Owen
Blinding.
Francis
If anything. You'd be like it's really dark.
Dave Portnoy
Look at Sarah Sherman Samuel style, bro. Tell me you don't love it.
Owen
Dude, isn't Sarah Sherman the girl on snl?
Francis
Sarah Squirm.
Dave Portnoy
Sarah Squirm. I think.
Owen
What is her name? Sherman.
Dave Portnoy
I'm talking about Sarah Sherman Samuel.
Francis
Yeah. I love this stuff.
Dave Portnoy
I mean she is truly flawless and she. I'd love to see Chat GPT give her a run for the money.
Owen
Damn. Sauce Gardener just signed 120 million dollar.
Dave Portnoy
Contract the day after Garrett Wilson did.
Owen
130 for Garrett Wilson.
Dave Portnoy
They just gave out 250. Woody Johnson's dropping bags. That's what other podcasts are you getting Sarah Sherman Samuel right into Woody Johnson.
Owen
I know.
Dave Portnoy
Now that's so nice. All that still suck to have Justin Fields where Instead of giving 250 to a quarterback, they gave it to a wide out in the corner. I know they're just hoping that Justin Fields, fast ass is gonna.
Owen
I think he'll be. I think they'll. He'll be better than Aaron Rodgers was for sure.
Dave Portnoy
The threat to run is key. He also has never like sucked that bad. He just hasn't been that good.
Owen
Yeah, he wasn't bad on the, on the, on the Steelers though at all. It was just Russell Wilson was, was.
Dave Portnoy
Ready to play and they've been investing in their own line too.
Francis
Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
So what are we saying? Low lighting like upwards or like funky lamps or. What are we, sconces?
Francis
It's my turn again.
Owen
Francis, are you going to do the fantasy league this year? Are you skipping out?
Francis
I'll do it.
Owen
Well, you got to actually do it.
Francis
I'm in.
Dave Portnoy
You should have. You should have somebody else to. To do it with you.
Owen
If you don't do it, you're off the podcast. Not. Not if you don't. Not if you just don't do it. But if you do it and you bail again.
Francis
Okay, so I am gonna do it then. I'm not gonna do it.
Owen
Why don't you just. Just set your lineup? It's so.
Francis
I have no problem setting my lineup. I don't understand the trade stuff.
Owen
There's barely any trades that take place.
Francis
Every single person in our league by the end of the season had a completely different roster from what they started. Agency, whatever the it's called.
Owen
I think we. There was like three.
Francis
All my guys got injured and nobody told me how to cycle them out, so I just ended up playing with like a two man team.
Dave Portnoy
You trying to get him to participate in fantasy football is like him trying to get you to clean your apartment. Like it's like clean. The definition of insanity. To keep on trying. Like it's so crazy that you're like, francis, please do this thing you don't like to do.
Francis
Yeah, he doesn't want to do it.
Owen
He's missing out. You're missing out. Down. You're gonna miss out.
Dave Portnoy
He doesn't want to do it. He has his own likes and interests.
Francis
I believe that. I want to do it. I just need more help. And nobody wants to help because it's competitive, which is understandable because no one else.
Owen
I never used the platform. I figured it out. I. I never used.
Francis
Not that I've never used the platform.
Dave Portnoy
You're a ball junkie.
Owen
I never fantasy set up the whole league.
Francis
I've never done fantasy football.
Owen
I've done it. I had done it like twice up until this year.
Francis
Two more times than I'd done it.
Owen
Well, according to your halo argument, that didn't mean anything thing.
Dave Portnoy
Wow.
Francis
I don't apply that more clearly. Apply it more clearly because I want to see if what you just said makes sense. And I don't think it does.
Owen
I'm not actually.
Francis
Break that down. I refuse. Cuz it's wrong.
Owen
I refuse.
Francis
There's no chance that that works the way you thought it did.
Dave Portnoy
It sounded cadence wise. It sounded like a mic drop rolled off the tongue.
Francis
Well, yeah, it did.
Dave Portnoy
But I didn't. I didn't look into it at all. I didn't really think about what was actually said. It was truly lost on me.
Owen
Just wish ball was on.
Francis
That's all. It is the opposite of what you said. Because I do think I've played more Halo than you have. And my argument would have been that for you, you having done more fantasy football, it's not even worth getting into.
Owen
Yeah, that's why I said I don't.
Francis
Well, because I caught you. I caught your foot in the rabbit's trap there. Saw it off and put it on a keychain.
Dave Portnoy
That was a weird thing that you could win at a fair, a rabbit's foot. Because I didn't even know what they were because I got. I won like a blue one or something. It was on a keychain. Then you, like, look closer and there's nails. Oh, this is the foot of a rabbit. I thought it was expired Native American name or something.
Owen
Yeah, they don't do that.
Francis
There's a fair near my home, my permanent home upstate. And it's a county fair, so it's only there for a few days, but they got the tilt, the whirl, and the Ferris wheel. And it's. It's. It's got bells and whistles. And I saw it and I thought, man, that'd be fun. That'd be fun thing to go to on a random Friday night, you know? And then I thought, no, it wouldn't. Because I remember the games. Yeah. And how enraged I would become when I never won.
Owen
Yeah, they're impossible.
Francis
You know, there was one that had a bowling ball that went over this track and there was a little bump in the track back and then a dip. And then another thing. And the goal was you had to roll the ball perfectly such that it went over the bump and then nestled down into the trough below it and didn't roll back up and come back to you over the bump. And I must have spent $10 as a seventh grader, which is equivalent to, I don't know, a hundred grand today for me just playing this game. And I remember the guy who ran the booth was like, almost. Better luck next time, sonny. Yeah.
Owen
Cuz he's high on Vicodin.
Francis
I hated this guy. I went, it's rigged. And he goes, it's not. And then he came out of the booth and did it and showed me that it wasn't rigged.
Owen
Yeah.
Francis
Which made me even more angry.
Dave Portnoy
He's a dirty carny.
Francis
Yeah, well, he's also it's like, well, dude, that's the thing you're good at. Rolling the bowling ball with the perfect weight. If you were really good at this.
Owen
Yeah, sounds like he flamed you. Well, I, I came out and pulled off the uniform and he was like, he's like, sure, it's done.
Dave Portnoy
It's like when you try to fight a cop, Take off that badge and fight me. And he takes off the badge and beats your ass. But I kind of have to refute that. I went to a fair a couple weeks ago with mother in law, sister and brother in law, like their kid and my kids. And I was. And I just realized like I can be in charge of who has fun. And I just started fucking throwing money around. And we played every game in the fair. I was making everybody play. We won tons of prizes, throwing a bunch of money at it. It was fucking incredible. But these were very easy to win. And that's how it should be. There should be loose games at these fairs as opposed to like a tight ass game that nobody can throw the ping pong ball into the milk jug. Like that's bullshit.
Francis
A basketball hoop that'13ft high with a rim that's the size of a pint glass.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, it's like an oblong pint glass.
Francis
Rim bent in on the side. Yeah, you gotta just, you have to basically swish the middle of the hoop every single.
Dave Portnoy
I knew that it wasn't rigged. When, when I was making the basketball shots, I was like, oh yeah, this isn't rigged. And we all went home with stuffed animals, mini basketballs. Speaking of rigs, upside down.
Francis
Yeah, speaking of rig, did you guys see that $25,000 match between Riggs and the guy?
Dave Portnoy
Oh, I said no, the last one I watched was Riggs against the one hater.
Owen
Yeah, the guy who last I saw.
Francis
Oh man. He played this guy for $25,000.
Owen
Recently, like.
Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It came out more recently than that. Hater match. Okay. And it came down to the final putt.
Owen
Really?
Francis
I won't say what happened, but it's a pretty damn good video, I'll say that much.
Dave Portnoy
So Riggs wins 25.
Francis
They each took out $25,000 cash and the winner walked home with. With it.
Owen
That's crazy.
Francis
No, nuts.
Owen
Tax write off though.
Dave Portnoy
Yeah, you think Off?
Francis
I guess.
Dave Portnoy
Content. Content, yeah. Rigs is probably just like content.
Owen
Absolutely.
Dave Portnoy
I actually do this as content.
Francis
I got to tell you, I'm not really looking for a $25,000 tax write off right now. I'll pay the tax instead of losing 25 grand.
Owen
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Francis
I can't. I'm not happy if I'm like, well, I can write that off against my earnings. Like, that is my earnings.
Dave Portnoy
But Riggs probably just drops another hat.
Francis
True.
Dave Portnoy
He's just like, oh, I gotta put out some more Malar. I just have to count my residuals off the Malar. My take off the Titleist clubs that have my name embossed on the side.
Francis
Taylor made. Shout out. TaylorMade.
Dave Portnoy
Shout out to Taylor Made. Of course.
Owen
We gotta make golf dad hats.
Francis
Huh?
Owen
We gotta make boy dad hats.
Dave Portnoy
I know. Just so we can gamble with them.
Owen
Yeah, yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Just so we can gamble with high stakes.
Owen
That's our way out. That's our way out of the gutter.
Dave Portnoy
Boy dad hats.
Owen
Boy dad hats.
Dave Portnoy
International shipping too, of course.
Owen
Multiple languages.
Dave Portnoy
That's crazy. What?
Owen
Money. Printing money.
Dave Portnoy
That's so good.
Owen
Passive income.
Dave Portnoy
Como say boy dad and espanol, bro.
Francis
Garcon pear.
Dave Portnoy
That's French.
Francis
Yep. Yeah.
Dave Portnoy
I mean, if. If Alex Cooper had like, said the words boy dad, it would be a massive thing.
Francis
Yeah.
Owen
I mean, she's probably gonna put out boy dad hats before we do.
Dave Portnoy
Will Compton definitely is.
Owen
I think they. I think we kept their girl dead hats. They can't be happy about that.
Dave Portnoy
Barcelona did. Yeah, they definitely just made their own girl dad. Girl pop, Girl Papa gal dad.
Owen
Find it on a link tree.
Dave Portnoy
Miss those brothers, Miss those boys.
Owen
Miss those bastards.
Dave Portnoy
Like my. That's why I just watch Battle Camp on Netflix every day. Just so I could get some eyes on Taylor.
Owen
Oh, yeah.
Dave Portnoy
Who removed his hand tattoos? Did you see that?
Francis
I thought that I did see that.
Owen
I thought was makeup. Was it not?
Dave Portnoy
I thought he got him real life removed. Yeah. So he could be a clean comic like me, you and Francis.
Owen
Not a bad play.
Dave Portnoy
All right. All right.
Owen
Well, we'll see you guys on Thursday. Thank you for listening. Hope you guys enjoyed the episode.
Dave Portnoy
Goodbye.
Owen
Close was over.
Dave Portnoy
Still still underground.
Owen
So.
Francis
I looked older to you Came around.
Owen
I was only falling way.
Dave Portnoy
I was.
Owen
Only falling one way.
Dave Portnoy
Now I come.
Owen
Alive I was only falling one way I was only falling one way.
Francis
I.
Owen
Was only falling one way I was.
Francis
On your phone away that is to your eyes.
Owen
Did you me alive.
Francis
No.
Owen
One can take me alive I was only falling one way Sam, did you realize no one could take me alive?
Date: August 5, 2025
Hosts: Barstool Sports (Lil Sasquatch [Owen], Rone [Francis], Dave Portnoy)
Theme: Life lessons, masculinity, pet peeves, sexuality, routines, and playful banter—Owen (Lil Sasquatch) is feeling adrift after dropping out of college and looks to his peers for guidance on adulthood, ambition, and what it means to be a man.
This episode is a classic, riff-heavy Son of a Boy Dad, mixing personal updates, observational comedy, and Barstool-style commentary. The group dives into topics ranging from fitness goals and morning routines to sexuality, pets, divorce stats, and the mechanics of fairground games—all framed as informal life education for the allegedly “rudderless” Lil Sas, but ultimately a group therapy session in bro-logic and anti-establishment humor. Memorable for playful jabs about splits, the ethics of killing mice, sexual openness, and the misery of fantasy football.
Irreverent, blunt, and deeply self-aware, the episode delivers "fratty” insight, with detours into social satire and personal confession. No topic is off limits, but everything is handled with the mocking, defensive style that’s a Barstool hallmark—blurring sincerity and parody.
For full banter, check the episode—these guys riff en route to insight.