Keep Your Socks Off the Table | Son of a Boy Dad #412

Summary

Son of a Boy Dad #412 — "Keep Your Socks Off the Table"

Barstool Sports | June 23, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Lil Sasquatch has recently dropped out of college and searches for direction in a confusing world. To bridge the gap in his education, he leans on co-host and producer Rone for guidance. The conversation covers themes of health, masculinity, friendship dynamics, pop culture, awkward family moments, esports drama, and the absurdity of certain modern trends.

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Key Topics & Highlights

1. Chicago Trip Recap & Germ Anxiety (02:46–08:22)

• The hosts return from Chicago, feeling both physically & mentally run-down.
• Francis jokes about Harry's extreme laughter in the office, contrasting it with Harry's claims of illness.
• Discussion of stomach bugs, sharing physical discomfort, and the “Munchausen by proxy” effect after spending too much time together.
  • Quote: “Your attitude made me tired.” — Roan (06:01)
  • Quote: “I just wanted, I just, and it took me, I had to step out of myself and realize this isn't me. This isn't who I am. I embrace life. I move towards the light...” — Roan (07:39)

2. Pop Culture Deep-Dive: Michael Jackson Documentary (08:29–13:33)

• All hosts share their reactions to the new Michael Jackson Netflix doc, discussing allegations, court cases, and the complexity of separating art from artist.

  • Quote: “He was accused, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right.” — Francis (08:49)
  • Quote: “There's a lot of people that are just such hard Michael Jackson fans that they're just like, I refuse to believe that..." — Harry (10:24)

• Compares MJ's enduring popularity to other disgraced figures (e.g., Jeffrey Epstein), skewering the idea of "superfan" denial.

• Jokes about disgraceful celebrity estates and architecture: “If you could ride his [Epstein’s] plane at Universal Studios...people would be like, he actually wasn't that bad of a guy.” — Francis (11:27)

3. Awkward Family Viewing Experiences (13:46–20:11)

• Each host recounts cringe moments watched with parents: from the gory skateboarding movie "The End" to the racy content of "Flight" and a Brokeback Mountain scene with a friend’s mother.
• Discussion about family “racy” rating systems and generational boundaries.
  • Quote: “I don't want to have Love Island on in front of my kids. No, no, that's basically porno.” — Francis (17:55)
  • Quote: “We all felt disquieted.” — Roan (17:07)

4. The Nuances of Adult Friendship (20:25–28:23)

• Rone confesses to struggling with maintaining long-term friendships as dynamics shift with adulthood and families.

• Explores reciprocity, outgrowing friends, and the idea of “one in, one out” for new friendships vs. old.

  • Quote: “The club's at capacity, but nobody's dancing.” — Francis (22:05)
  • Quote: “You're not my best friend until you have the other half of my moon bracelet.” — Roan (25:01)

• Highlights the awkwardness of adults naming “best friends” and the problem of non-mutual friendship declarations.

5. Golf Recap & Travel Fiascos (28:09–39:00)

• Roan talks about golfing at National Golf Links next to the US Open in the Hamptons (29:17).
• Harry shares his North Carolina trip, a comedy club review, and enduring a brutal one-hour hotel check-in (32:20).
• They recount travel woes in Chicago—flight delays, airport frustrations, and Harry’s aggressive “tornado warning” predictions spreading panic in the Delta Lounge.
• Hilarious observations about rude travelers: young guy puts socked feet on food table in lounge, causing moral outrage.
  • Quote: “His stinky black socks...Those hold more smell than white socks.” — Francis/Roan/Harry (38:28)

6. Esports Drama, Money, & Industry Politics (54:14–64:41)

• Recent Counter-Strike and Call of Duty major tournaments discussed.

• The "Bush" team’s rivalry with the LA Thieves, podcast drama, and the politics of esports franchising explained by Harry.

  • Quote: “...open bracket style...anyone can really compete, and you can sort of work your way up to being considered, like, a pro team. Call of Duty in 2019 franchised. Now there’s only 12 teams...” — Harry (58:08–59:08)

• Details the financial hurdles & controversy over buyouts, why successful challenger teams can’t move up due to league structure.

  • Quote: “It would be stupid for us to go to the league right now because ... the overhead for us right now is very small compared to if we were in the pro league. Everyone has to get paid an actual $60,000 a year salary, including the coach.” — Harry (62:59)

• Wild tangent about Robert Kraft’s anti-hate lab at Gillette (66:18–68:43)

7. Miscellaneous & Pop Culture Rapid-Fire (44:34–73:19)

• Francis attends a Norway–Senegal soccer match at MetLife (44:34).
• Dissection of traffic horrors at MetLife vs. the joys of walking into Wrigley Field with Barstool’s Big Cat (52:11–53:54).
• Love Island and the “true crime” doc downturn: debates whether new, increasingly grim documentaries add real value.
• Francis critiques the recent “darkest” documentary on Netflix: “Absolutely not. You got to see it.” (71:17)
• General thoughts on the “low vibration” energy of true crime and why some stories do/don’t deserve the spotlight.

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Notable Quotes & Moments (with Timestamps)

• On moral laziness:
  “You just can't expect me to keep your secrets. It's just I don't care.” — Francis (02:58)
• On the contagious effect of negative energy:
  “I realized that it was just like, as if I was just speaking your language. Your attitude made me tired.” — Roan (06:01)
• Pop culture cynicism:
  “There's a lot of people that are just such hard Michael Jackson fans that they're just like, I refuse to believe that..." — Harry (10:24)
• Childhood awkwardness:
  “We all felt disquieted...” — Roan (17:07) “That movie is a little too dark for me.” — Harry’s mom, recounted by Harry (17:16)
• On friendship:
  “The club's at capacity, but nobody's dancing.” — Francis (22:05) “You're not my best friend until you have the other half of my moon bracelet.” — Roan (25:01)
• On rude lounge behavior:
  “He's got his bare socks on the table. His stinky black socks.” — Roan (38:26) “That was genuinely one of the craziest things I've ever seen.” — Harry (38:49)
• Esports take-down:
  “Start high. End lower than you were hoping for.” — Harry (57:14)
• On True Crime docs:
  “I think that crash documentary was kind of the last one for me where I was like...it kind of just was, like, depressing." — Harry (71:33) “I respect the beautiful game, but I don't know it.” — Francis (49:17)

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Major Segments (Timestamps)

• [02:46] — Chicago trip/physical maladies and Munchausen by proxy jokes
• [08:29] — Michael Jackson documentary discussion
• [13:46] — Awkward family movie moments
• [20:25] — Friendship in adulthood, letting go of old relationships
• [28:09] — Golf & travel stories, hotel check-in nightmares
• [38:28] — Airport/Delta Lounge rude behavior: “Keep your socks off the table!”
• [44:34] — Soccer World Cup, MetLife, and traffic horror stories
• [54:14] — Esports dynamics: Call of Duty, salary structures, league drama
• [66:18] — Robert Kraft’s “Blue Square” anti-hate institute discussion
• [71:33] — Dark documentaries, the nature of true crime content

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Episode Tone & Final Thoughts

The episode jumps nimbly between gross-out humor, sharp pop culture insight, and honest reflections on growing up and “finding your gym.” There’s equal opportunity skewering of celebrities, themselves, and each other. The banter is rapid, irreverent, and self-aware—perfect for listeners who like their social commentary with a hefty side of jokes about vomiting, racy movies, and socks on public tables.

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Best for listeners who enjoy:

• Unfiltered friendship & adulthood talk.
• Candid, funny analysis of pop culture & internet trends.
• Inside looks at the world of esports and Barstool personalities.
• Relatable tales of travel, family, and social discomfort—with a sharp comedic edge.

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Transcript

[Francis]

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[Harry]

Alrighty. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy dad podcast. Today. It's June20. We are here live from HQ3. Welcome back. We are back in studio, back from Chicago.

[Francis]

You just can't expect me to keep your secrets. It's just I don't care.

[Harry]

Back from Chicago. How we feeling? How we feeling, guys? I mean, I've. I've been just non stop moving. I'm in a bad place physically and mentally.

[Francis]

He says this, but I walked past him in the hallway earlier and he was on a zoom call with Telluride Bush and his head was literally like his. He was throwing his head all the way back, laughing. I mean, the back of his head was touching between his shoulder blades, just going, no, that's. And he came in here and he was like, yeah, dude, I've had a tummy ache and shit like that.

[Harry]

I was telling that. I talked about my tummy ache on that too. So talk about it here as well.

[Roan]

I don't. I don't really know what more to do. It's just, it's so apparent that this is an imposition and that is his joy.

[Harry]

No, no, no. That was.

[Francis]

We had to.

[Harry]

I had to record. I came in early and I did that here. And now we're doing this. Like Roan did his show with J. Will.

[Francis]

And I didn't crack a smile. And I didn't crack a smile.

[Harry]

You can watch back the tapes. I didn't crack a smile.

[Francis]

You were fucking scream laughing.

[Roan]

You're allowed to crack smiles.

[Harry]

There was really nothing to even laugh about on that.

[Francis]

It was a.

[Harry]

More of a serious conversation.

[Francis]

Well, then why. Why were you laughing so hard that I heard it through soundproof glass doors?

[Harry]

I just kept on seeing you walking behind and looking in.

[Francis]

I walk behind because I, I just kept on. I. I thought that the firmament of the building was shaking with how hard?

[Harry]

Because I was like, I don't. I feel like I don't walk in when you and J. Will are filming and just stand there.

[Francis]

You're like, across from the bathroom like a voyeurist.

[Harry]

Go to use the downstairs bathroom.

[Francis]

I'm not running just because you're laughing so hard. But he was complaining about he had a vicious tummy ache. What else is new?

[Harry]

This is like one that we've never experienced where it's like shitting and vomiting. Once you start vomiting, that's when you're like, this is no longer, like funny.

[Roan]

No, that's scary.

[Harry]

Yeah. Now this just sucks and it's scary. Scary. Yeah.

[Roan]

I don't know what to tell you. Nothing. Here's what I've learned. Okay. We spent 2 and a half ish days together in Chicago. And you and I, we spent more time together.

[Harry]

Because it's probably that octopus that did it, honestly.

[Roan]

Well, you and I had to run to the. We weren't. We weren't part of the dozen. So Roan was off doing, you know,

[Harry]

dozen stuff, and he was catered for and whatnot.

[Roan]

Correct.

[Harry]

Just strictly dozen food. Dozen.

[Francis]

Only catered to and catered to. Yeah, no, I was catered for too.

[Roan]

I had to get, like, the people who built the set to sneak me sandwich halves.

[Harry]

Could you grab me a meatball?

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Francis was in disguise as a teamster. He just was walking in with, like, grappling hooks around his waist and a hammer in his.

[Roan]

I had voodoo tattoos on my arms. But we were. We were spending. We spent a lot of time together, you and I, Harry and I came home from it and realized that I was just telling everyone how tired I was all the time.

[Harry]

Yeah, yeah, you told me about that.

[Roan]

And I realized that it was just like as if I was just speaking your language. Your attitude made me tired.

[Harry]

Yeah, it's not even like. But like we talked about a little bit. Like, you're not even tired when you say it's.

[Francis]

You had Munchausen by proxy. By proxy. I will explain that he has Munchausen by proxy. And you got it by proxy.

[Harry]

I don't know what Munch. Munchause is, so explain.

[Roan]

Munchausen by proxy is when you keep someone usually, like a child, sick.

[Harry]

Oh, yeah.

[Roan]

There's a till like. Yeah.

[Francis]

Oh, so you just have Munchausen.

[Harry]

I'm.

[Francis]

You had Munchausen by proxy.

[Roan]

But Munchausen by proxy would be as if I was keeping Harry tired.

[Francis]

Got it. But so. But he's keeping himself. So you don't have Munch housing, but you have Munchausen. Yeah.

[Harry]

Have you guys seen that movie where the girl, like, can't walk and then she finds out it's cuz like her mom had been giving her like, dog medicine for like, 20 years?

[Roan]

Are you talking about the show Sharp Objects? Because it's in that.

[Harry]

No, but I've seen that.

[Roan]

That's.

[Harry]

This is a different movie.

[Roan]

That's Munchausen by Proxy.

[Harry]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's a great show.

[Roan]

It scared the out a little dark.

[Harry]

A little dark.

[Roan]

It was. The cutting stuff was.

[Harry]

Yeah, that's a little too heavy. I'm not into that. But the rest of the show was great. The ending.

[Roan]

The ending's unbelievable.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Haunting the teeth. Oh, boy. Say less because.

[Harry]

Say less. I don't want to spoil.

[Roan]

Don't want to spoil. So, yeah, we don't know if it was Munchbox and by proxy or what. But the point is that after Hanging out with Harry for a couple of days, I just started feeling achier and less willing to do things and annoyed that people were reaching out to me. I just wanted, I just, and it took me, I had to step out of myself and realize this isn't me. This isn't who I am. I embrace life. I move towards the light. I need to get back to that. I need to re embrace the fact that I'm not constantly fatigued. Let's get in the gym, let's eat clean, let's be positive.

[Harry]

Yeah. So you're feeling good now?

[Roan]

Feeling great. 91 Sleep score last night.

[Francis]

Oh, God, love that.

[Roan]

Great outfit. I call this, this is a Backstreet Boys outfit. But because it's pride month, it's a back shots boys outfit. That's what I'm going for.

[Francis]

Damn good.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I could see you hitting like the Michael Jackson. The wind blowing on your top.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Your bottom shirt stays tight.

[Roan]

And I'm so glad you brought Michael Jackson up because I have been watching the Michael Jackson documentary on Netflix.

[Harry]

Oh, yeah?

[Roan]

Either of you two seen any of it?

[Harry]

Yeah, I finished it. I think I brought, I think I talked about it a little bit.

[Francis]

I'm two episodes in out of three, so I, I, he was doing it.

[Roan]

I'm only one and everything.

[Francis]

He was accused, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right.

[Harry]

Yeah. I mean, they go a little bit more into like both sides of it when you get to the third episode, like, because it's more like the court case. So that's kind of where you see like the more like opposing arguments of like, maybe why he maybe didn't do it.

[Roan]

I guess he had a box of porn in his bedroom that he was showing the kid who was sleeping with him.

[Harry]

Yeah. So I'm going to go with he did it as well. I'm not, look, I'm not on his. I think he definitely sounded like you were like, no, I think, Wait till

[Francis]

you hear them out.

[Harry]

No, I think he definitely did it. But the third episode is where you get like the other side.

[Roan]

I'm not going to watch that one.

[Harry]

Yes, it's, there's really no point in watching it.

[Roan]

I'm going to believe what I believe.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I don't want both sides.

[Harry]

Well, the third episode is kind of crazy because that's when like the kids start testifying and they're all just saying, he didn't do anything.

[Roan]

They are recanting their Macaulay Culkin.

[Francis]

Why would a kid ever recant their original account of abuse?

[Harry]

Yeah, I mean, like Macaulay Culkin comes in and it's like. That's when it's like the stars are out.

[Roan]

Yeah, I know, but. But Michael Jackson didn't touch him because he knew he would be the star

[Harry]

witness or he touched him and Macaulay Culkin didn't want to admit it.

[Francis]

And he's got Munchausen by proxy now.

[Roan]

That's it.

[Harry]

That more likely scenario.

[Francis]

I. Doesn't make you guys look at Chris Tucker and Usher as, like, kind of up too. Why that after all this entire trial, they're, like, going up on stage, like, having a dance off with Michael Jackson.

[Harry]

There's a lot of people that don't, like. I don't know what it is, but, like, it's. It's not. It's almost similar to, like, the Epstein files in a way of, like, there's a lot of people that are just such hard Michael Jackson fans that they're just like, I refuse to believe that,

[Francis]

like, the big Jeff Epstein fans out there. Well, you know, it's like, I just love his financial advice.

[Harry]

I'm being. Yeah, exactly.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

He made me millions.

[Francis]

He got me rich as hell. I can't say a bad word. He got the guy. He was always nice to me.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Jeffrey Epstein doesn't seem to have anything lasting from which people can benefit.

[Harry]

I kind of meant more like, I don't know, like Trump.

[Roan]

No, but I was going to say that.

[Harry]

I didn't want to say it.

[Roan]

I was going to say that MJ's muse, Michael Jackson's music endures. Right. And people still get so much joy from it.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

If Jeffrey Epstein's playing were still in service and paid for in perpetuity for a handful of people, maybe they would be like, I don't think he did anything right.

[Francis]

If you could. If you could ride his. His plane at Universal Studios, Orlando, I feel like people would be like, he actually wasn't that bad of a guy.

[Harry]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Francis]

If you could go on a couple loops. Or just like, if his island was public access.

[Harry]

The Four Seasons was there now.

[Roan]

Bingo.

[Harry]

Yeah. Or top to top vacation destination in the States.

[Francis]

It honestly looks like kind of trash.

[Harry]

It kind of. It does, it does. Like where it's cloudy.

[Francis]

Where's the. And like, where's, like, the nice architecture? Like, it was like folding chairs.

[Harry]

Yeah. They got that big blue, like, temple.

[Francis]

That shit sucks. It's like, it doesn't look comfortable. It doesn't look like there's enough seating or, like, enough pools or anything like that. It looks underbuilt why haven't they, like, destroyed it?

[Harry]

Like, why don't they, like, blow it up?

[Roan]

We're talking about Epstein Island.

[Harry]

Talking about both that and that and Neverland.

[Roan]

Yeah. Neverland seems seedy.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Seed everywhere.

[Harry]

Yeah. You don't want to go in the

[Francis]

documentary when they open up the. The door and it's just like, maybe a billion movies and someone's like, we're going to have to go through this. How the fuck are you guys going to go through, like, at what, like, pace? Are you going to go through every recording that he has in his home?

[Roan]

Yeah. I did the ordering of the child pornography videos in a magazine. The guy's like, yeah, we. We just went through a phase.

[Harry]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

But there's a magazine, like, you're getting, like, a baseball glove. Like, that's. It's like. There's an East Bay magazine for kids.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I've been through some. Some weird phases in my life. Never that, though Skateboarding, you know, I never once led to me circling illegal.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Child pornography in a magazine.

[Harry]

Sharpie.

[Francis]

Circling.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Spitfire just came out with this crazy edit. The kids skate and then they circling it.

[Francis]

So you want to get.

[Harry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Francis]

You're begging for the. The release. And I mean, the fact that that assistant guy was also one of his victims, it's like, of course there were victims that aren't the famous people too. Like, there's.

[Roan]

He.

[Francis]

He probably had a deep roster.

[Harry]

100%. I mean, he's the key. Was the king of the world.

[Roan]

Did you guys ever. Did you guys ever experience anything with your parents?

[Francis]

No.

[Harry]

Come again?

[Francis]

No, I didn't. Thank you.

[Roan]

I'm going elsewhere. Where you revealed, like, I'll give. Just. I'm just gonna tell you what happened to me. So.

[Francis]

Okay.

[Roan]

It's thinking about the skateboarding again. And for my birthday, I asked for this seminal skateboarding movie called the End.

[Francis]

It's Native American skateboarders.

[Roan]

No.

[Francis]

Seminole.

[Roan]

Oh, Seminole.

[Francis]

Oh, got it.

[Roan]

Got it Al.

[Francis]

Got it.

[Roan]

Got it with Tony Hawk is in it. I mean, it was like the movie to watch. And there's a scene in it where they kind of pretend that someone's head has been cut off.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And it, like, rolls around and there are, you know, tendons and ligaments and things like that falling off the end of it. And it was so gory, and I was so revolted. And I was watching the movie with my parents.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And we took it back.

[Harry]

Like, you returned.

[Roan]

We returned it after purchasing it.

[Francis]

What did they say when they got to the Well, I was.

[Roan]

I. I was just mortified by it. I was. I don't know. And I was probably nine. Did you ever watch a movie with your parents when you were too young where there was something in it that was, like, awkward for all of you?

[Harry]

Yeah, but, like, so, yes and no. So I have a story. So I was like. I would think I was in fifth grade, and I slept over at one of my buddy's houses. We all played, like, hockey together, and it was like four of us, and we would always, like, sleep over at one of his. Our. One of our friend's houses, and we would watch, like, a movie. And he. He had, like, older brothers and stuff, so it was kind of like a little bit more relaxed on, like, what movie? Like, my parents, it would be like, they'd be more strict because I was like, my sister was a year older than me. Like, we were young and we watched Flight with Denzel.

[Roan]

Oh, my God. That you saw that movie as a child is fifth grade. And because that movie came out way into my adulthood.

[Harry]

Yeah, I know. It's funny. It's fine. It's funny that.

[Francis]

I think I was working at barstool

[Roan]

pret confident I would. I watched it on a flight when I had status.

[Francis]

Yeah, I think I saw it with K. Marco,

[Roan]

but.

[Harry]

So we watched that movie, obviously, while I was watching it, I was like, this is pretty insane. I've never seen anything like this. And then my mom picked me up the next morning, and we were, like, driving home and she was like, would you guys, like. You guys watch a movie? And I was like, yeah, we watched Flight and she was like, really? She was like, we watched Flight last night and she was like, we turned it off because of, like, how graphic it is. And so, yeah, she was.

[Francis]

Well, that movie within the first, like, three minutes.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Has, like, tons of titties and an upside down plane crash.

[Harry]

Yeah. Full frontal 30 seconds of the movie

[Francis]

and a plane that, like, crashes into the Amish.

[Harry]

And then a guy doing blow and drinking himself to death pretty much.

[Francis]

Right. Right away into the movie. Yeah. Great flick.

[Roan]

What a movie.

[Francis]

Though yours doesn't seem like it was that bad, honestly. Which is like, that. Just the head was rolling around. Were you mortified by it or just your parents were.

[Roan]

I think, together. We all felt disquieted.

[Harry]

This is a little much for us.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Yeah. A little heavy.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Does your family have, like, a word that they'll use? Because my mom will always be like, that movie is a little too dark for me. Oh, and I'LL be like Anchorman. My mom, he's a drunk in it.

[Roan]

I'm trying to think. We definitely had a movie. We had a word for when there was like, you know, nudity and stuff like that.

[Francis]

What was it?

[Roan]

I can't remember.

[Harry]

Racy.

[Roan]

Racy. It might have been racy. Yes. Racy is exactly the word. That's exactly what it was. Because I was thinking, was it risque? I knew it was an R. Yeah, but no, it was. It was racy for sure.

[Harry]

Yeah. I mean, my parents, we like. We still don't watch movies like that.

[Roan]

Yeah, that's.

[Francis]

I get it. I don't want to have Love island on in front of my kids. No, no, that's basically porno.

[Harry]

Yeah. I mean, me and my dad watched Shane's special live in Austin. We got like 30 seconds in and my mom was like, turn this off.

[Francis]

I think my mother in law and her new husband tried to watch that too. And they were just like, it was a little bit much.

[Harry]

I remember the line. It was when he goes, me and my dad talk, eating pussy and fracking. And that was when my mom walked by and she was like, jesus, fracking.

[Francis]

Did you see the picture he posted of his dad?

[Roan]

Was that his dad? I thought that was Phil Mickelson. But it was weird because I saw the photo and I was like, well, Phil's a lefty.

[Francis]

He looks so fucking jacked.

[Roan]

I know.

[Francis]

That's a. That's a dense body with ropey muscles.

[Roan]

His dad was playing golf and looked very much like a very jacked version of film.

[Francis]

Quads and fucking everything about him. And he was in like the US Open or Masters gear.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Damn.

[Francis]

This happened, Francis. Your story happened to me. My senior year of high school, I went over my friend's house and we were sitting down, about to go out, and his dad called him into another room because he had had a party the weekend before and his dad called him into a room to yell at him. And his mom was still in the room and I think that she'd been drinking. And we had Brokeback Mountain. Unbeknownst to me, I'd never seen it on the TV Scre. And it literally like jumped to a gay sex scene as his dad called him out of the room. And I was just sitting there in silence with his like, teetering mom.

[Harry]

So you watched. You watched Brokeback Mountain just with his mom.

[Francis]

I mean, that scene was on and then basically like, that feels illegal. It felt illegal.

[Harry]

It was.

[Francis]

It was massively uncomfortable.

[Roan]

Weird as hell.

[Harry]

Why did the mom not be like, hey, let's maybe let's throw something else on.

[Francis]

I think she was teetering. I don't know. I don't know. I think there's something about being Irish, too. Yeah. She was hammered. She was just. Just being like, oh, this is uncomfortable. Suppress this forever.

[Roan]

Quite literally. Pause.

[Francis]

Yeah, we. We could have it. That's disgusting. That's very risque. I wish that either of your parents had been there.

[Harry]

I know they would have shut it down.

[Francis]

I wish they'd shut it down a little bit too much.

[Harry]

It's not your fault, man. At a young age, how do you guys feel about.

[Roan]

Oh, sorry.

[Francis]

How do we feel about.

[Roan]

No, no, no, I, I didn't mean to.

[Francis]

No, I was done.

[Harry]

Yeah, I was done as well. I was kind of petering what I

[Roan]

was going to ask. How do you guys feel about friendship at this point in life?

[Francis]

Wow, great question. What do you. Where are you at with it?

[Roan]

I think that I've been struggling a little bit with the concept of friendship. And I'm struggling with this thing where I have friends with whom I've been friends for many, many years. Many years. But those people don't. They're not necessarily continuing to be good friends.

[Harry]

Yeah. Yeah. Like. Well, like, just distance.

[Roan]

Either they're drifting apart, they're drifting into their families, or they're just. They've become assholes kind of. And when we hang out, it's not that fun anymore. Whatever. And then I meet new people who I find amazing. I've met some amazing new friends.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

In. In the last couple years of my life. And I wonder if I owe it to the people I've been friends with for many years to maintain that friendship in spite of. Or can you kind of like one in, one out?

[Harry]

Well, I think it's more so if they're putting in the effort to be friends. If they're not putting in any effort to reach out to you, like, then, no, I don't think you owe them anything.

[Roan]

Was that the end of it then?

[Harry]

I don't necessarily think.

[Roan]

15 year friendship.

[Harry]

Yeah. I don't think you got to look at it as, like, it's the end of it. But I think, you know, people grow apart if you don't live in the same city as people. If you don't. Like. Like, if I didn't play video games with my friends from home, I would barely speak to them.

[Roan]

But you have. You wouldn't have had falling outs necessarily. It just would be on ice for a bit.

[Francis]

I've. I've come in contact with this problem before. The club's at capacity, but nobody's dancing.

[Roan]

It's really good.

[Francis]

And what you have to do is you got to turn the lights on, get some people out of there, bro.

[Roan]

You need to turn the lights on

[Francis]

and just be like, hey, like, we're closing up for the night. And then get a new. Get a new group or, you know, stock the. Stock the club with the people who are going to dance.

[Harry]

Yeah, you got to tighten up that circle. It sounds like.

[Francis]

Yeah, I think that. But I also think that you describe two different things. If people are becoming assholes, kick them out of the club.

[Harry]

Yeah. Fuck them.

[Francis]

They're not involved. They're not invited to the club. I will say people recessing into their families, that's fine. That might not be their choice. And I know because I feel like I'm going through that somewhere. It's like, I'm not with a lot of my friends. Not because I don't want to be, because, like, a lot of that time is now otherwise occupied. But it would really be valuable for me that if I could hop back into that club whenever I have a couple of dance moves.

[Roan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Francis]

You know what I mean? As opposed to just being excluded from the club just because I couldn't dance.

[Roan]

At that one point, I. I understand that the onus is on me to. To make plans with the people who have families, because I have no family and I have the time and the energy. And I also feel like, fundamentally, it's just easier for someone who's married with kids to be like, so and so asked me to come.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Instead of being like, I've organized a night away from you.

[Harry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Roan]

And the children.

[Harry]

When is last time you organized something for us?

[Roan]

Yeah, I want to go to Fort Charles.

[Harry]

Y. Yeah. It's actually my favorite restaurant.

[Francis]

Stop listening to my combos.

[Roan]

But there's that. So. But then. But then I come back to this thought, which is that someone once said that people who have friends who have no. No friends for many years before, and all their friends are new people, but that's kind of a bad sign about that person, that they're.

[Harry]

People do say that. I've heard that before.

[Roan]

And I know people for whom that's the case.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Boys or girls?

[Roan]

Both.

[Francis]

Does it happen more frequently with one of the genders?

[Roan]

Yeah, it does.

[Francis]

Okay.

[Roan]

Yeah, it does.

[Francis]

I'm not saying it's all of whichever gender, but there is. It does happen more frequently with one of them.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I actually. I don't know a lot of guys that are like that.

[Harry]

No, but I know a couple. Yeah, well, fresh set of friends.

[Roan]

Yeah. I just know you. You know when people proclaim you their best friend or something early on, that's weird. That is not a good sign.

[Harry]

Yeah, I haven't had that happen in a long time.

[Roan]

I don't even really like the term best friend. I get awkward hearing that.

[Harry]

Yeah, it's a lot of. It's kind of a little bit of a commitment.

[Roan]

Yeah. It's also non consensual.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Right. You're not my best friend until you have the other half of my moon bracelet.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You can't be asked. You can't just like assume that there's

[Harry]

a lot people who their best friend that unrequited. Yeah. That person might have another best friend.

[Roan]

Bingo.

[Harry]

And then you're going, well, is this just like a one way best friend? Yeah, because that's not. That one way best friend is not a best friend. No, that's a friend.

[Francis]

Right.

[Harry]

Well, for you, one of them's a little bit obsessive.

[Francis]

Right. One that belongs on the watch list.

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[Harry]

Yo, have you been telling people you're my best friend? What the. You're not even in my top five. Listen, I like you, but best friend seems extreme.

[Francis]

Yeah, maybe in certain groups. Like I'll spend the most time with you at work.

[Roan]

Son of a boy. Dad is brought to you by Mountain Dew. Guys, summer is here and I cannot wait for the 4th of July, specifically, where I know I'm going to open up a big old cooler and pull out an ice cold Mountain Dew.

[Francis]

Oh, my God.

[Roan]

Think about that. Wait, I'm talking like 3, 4pm right now, heading into the golden hour, you know, get that little citrusy kick. My goodness, goodness. Nothing goes better with the fourth of July and hanging with your friends than the refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew. I had one on the golf course this past weekend.

[Francis]

Oh, my God.

[Harry]

I was gonna say that's the best part about going to Chicago. That office they just got them on. I mean, they may as well have them on tap. I'm slamming them out there.

[Francis]

It's so nice. I got one back home too. It's with a hot dog, with a hamburger, with some potato. Potato salad.

[Roan]

Tofu substitute. Burger.

[Francis]

Tofu substitute.

[Roan]

Mountain Dew was proudly born in the foothills of Tennessee. Enjoy the refreshing citrus kick of Mountain Dew. An American original. Every time I crack one, I can almost hear the mountains calling.

[Harry]

I hear. Every time I crack one, I hear a bald eagle chirping. In my ear.

[Roan]

Grab a do. Tasting great since 48.

[Harry]

Yeah, it is tough. I mean, I've always felt weird about it because, like, I feel like I have my really good friends, but I also feel like that's definitely, like, stopped me from making a lot of other good friends because I'm like, well, I already got my boys, which will probably backfire at some point.

[Francis]

I do think at some. At some points in your life, it feels a bit needy to be trying to create new friend groups. But I think that's toxic. I think that that's a toxic problem that I have. Like, I don't need any. Any new friends.

[Roan]

Like, for me, it has happened naturally.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

The golf course.

[Roan]

Yeah. New.

[Francis]

New.

[Roan]

New places, new towns, new jobs, whatever, you know, that. That all of a sudden, I've just been spending a lot more time with people I. I don't. I didn't know two years prior. But with you saying, I don't need any more friends, there may come a day where you realize that. That Bo and Nate and Peters and me, we're not as available.

[Francis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Roan]

As we once were. In fact, I gotta tell you around. Want to hear something awesome?

[Francis]

What?

[Roan]

Harry called me this weekend.

[Francis]

Oh, my God.

[Roan]

And I didn't pick up.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

How'd that taste?

[Roan]

Nor did I even reply.

[Harry]

No, you replied hours later. Yeah, that is true. I was a little thrown later. I was a bit thrown off. I'll say that. I was like, what the fuck? Texting and no response. I was like, what the hell's going on here?

[Francis]

When I call you, you don't know. If there's an emergency, I need you to pick up.

[Roan]

Golly.

[Francis]

Wow.

[Roan]

Now take that and multiply it by 4,000. Yeah. And you know how I feel.

[Harry]

Yeah, but I didn't. I didn't complain.

[Roan]

I didn't.

[Harry]

I didn't complain.

[Roan]

No.

[Francis]

And by him bringing it up now, that is kind of him responding.

[Harry]

Yeah. Yeah, definitely.

[Francis]

If you had never brought it up.

[Roan]

I ultimately. I ultimately did. I'm too good of a person. I can't. I can' Right. I also knew you golfing. Yeah, I played a lot of golf this weekend.

[Francis]

I knew.

[Harry]

I knew not to call twice.

[Roan]

Yeah. If. If it's the weekend I'm golfing.

[Harry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Francis]

I'm out there because you got a T shirt.

[Harry]

You hit a nice course this weekend now.

[Roan]

Oh, I did. I played national. National Golf Links of America.

[Harry]

Where is that? In the Hamptons?

[Roan]

Yeah, it's in south. It's adjacent. It abuts Shinnecock, where the US Open was. And there's a hole, I think it's 11, 10 or 11, where. I mean, I was 200 yards from a green on Shinnecock. Damn. You hear people clapping.

[Harry]

That's pretty.

[Roan]

My buddy who hosted us was like, gentlemen, I want us to stop and realize that this is the closest we'll ever come to playing golf in the US Open.

[Harry]

That's pretty cool.

[Roan]

Playing golf. Very.

[Harry]

Playing golf next to the US Open.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

That's pretty sweet.

[Francis]

Like having a pickup game. Right? Right next to the NBA Finals. Yeah.

[Harry]

Should have started just shooting some balls their direction.

[Francis]

Throw them off.

[Roan]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Francis]

That's nice. How'd you hit him?

[Roan]

I played pretty well at National. Yeah, I played, but it's not a very hard course. It's amazing. It's probably my favorite course in the world, but it's not that hard. You can miss anywhere. There's no. There's no real out of bounds.

[Francis]

That's nice.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

So nice fat ones for the. For the rich guys to go out, have a good time on vacation.

[Roan]

Yeah. Yeah, bro.

[Harry]

I was in. I was in North Carolina this weekend.

[Francis]

Did you pick up a sweatshirt? Unc Wilmington.

[Harry]

I did not know Mook did, though, bro. So. So we were in Chicago last week, obviously. Flew back Thursday, flew to Wilmington on Friday morning. Brutal.

[Francis]

Not really. Pretty easy flight.

[Harry]

Pretty easy flight. But when it's the third flight of the week, when it's the third flight of the week, you're like, I can't believe. I'm like, I was just at LaGuardia yesterday and now I'm back here again today. Like, that sucks.

[Francis]

You're getting money, bro. You're just going one place, getting money, going to another.

[Harry]

Exactly. Exactly. That was that. I had to remind myself. I was like, well, I'm getting paid, so this is good. Yeah. And also the club, I gotta say. Have you done that room? No. It's one of the best rooms I've ever done.

[Roan]

Come on.

[Harry]

Really? I swear to God.

[Roan]

Wow.

[Harry]

Dead Crow Comedy Club. It is an unbelievable.

[Francis]

It's where Hinchcliffe shot his last.

[Harry]

Oh, no, it's not.

[Roan]

Wait a minute. This is in Wilmington.

[Harry]

This is in Wilmington.

[Roan]

Why didn't you just drive?

[Francis]

No. North Carolina.

[Roan]

Excuse me.

[Francis]

Multiple Wilmingtons.

[Roan]

Valid.

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[Roan]

Thought it was valid, yeah.

[Harry]

Two hour drive to Wilmington, Delaware, North Carolina. I highly recommend doing it.

[Roan]

Okay.

[Harry]

Very, very fun club.

[Roan]

I'll see if they have enough seats.

[Harry]

Yeah, it might be a little small for you, but perfect size for me if anything. Maybe a little too big.

[Francis]

This comedy club is just right Yeah, I saw that. I saw a still image. And there were people sitting on stage with you now. Yes, there were. It was like. It was. They were under the spotlights. They were like, right up on the stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Harry]

It was like. I don't know how to. I mean, but they weren't on the stage, but whatever. But that's besides the point. It was very fun. Club. This was a first for me. I don't know if this has ever happened to you guys, and I would be curious to know your longest times checking into the hotel. I pulled up to the hotel. I almost fell to my knees.

[Roan]

What.

[Harry]

What is the law? What's the longest amount of time it's taken you guys to check into a hotel?

[Francis]

45 minutes in Vegas where I had to wait in a long line. It's like a long check in line.

[Harry]

This was over an hour.

[Roan]

Come on.

[Harry]

I swear to God. I waited, I stood. There was. I counted. I was 32nd in line.

[Roan]

Oh, my God.

[Harry]

Their whole system was down. I mean, it was. That's pretty much.

[Roan]

Was there some sort of.

[Harry]

But that. The thing that was annoying was it's all. It's all people on vacation.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Harry]

So they don't give a. Like, I'm looking for someone to match the energy. Like, I'm ready to get loud, you know, get angry.

[Roan]

Oh, yeah.

[Harry]

And these people, they're just thrilled to be there. So it's like I'm in the worst mood I've maybe ever been in, and there's people in front of me, like, playing, like, yacht rock music, like, out loud off of a JBL in line. Like, it was. I, I. Yeah, it was tough. Tough.

[Francis]

Just getting a drink out of line. Sending the wife.

[Harry]

Oh, they were all drinking in line.

[Francis]

Yeah. Yeah. Get a drink in line. Send the wife to the pool.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Send the kids to the pool.

[Harry]

Yeah. They were all, like, so happy to be in line. And I was like, this is the

[Francis]

most angry they showed up.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Roan. When Harry and I went to o' Hare for our first effort to get out of Chicago on Wednesday, Harry, we were. We were getting delayed and delayed and delayed. And finally we said, okay, let's just give up on this. It doesn't look good. And we stopped at an information desk.

[Harry]

Oh, my God, this was ridiculous.

[Roan]

And we're. I'm on the phone with Delta because I have the diamond medallion hotline, which is never more than a single minute of waiting. And I'm talking to her, and she's telling me to rebook for the next day. Or whatever. But we finished up and then we got to the guy and Harry turned to me and he's like, this is the type of situation where, like, I feel. I feel like I should. I'm going to get mad. He's like, I feel the need to

[Harry]

get mad because we waited in line for the. For the. For the Delta help desk or whatever it is. We wait.

[Francis]

The green one.

[Harry]

Yeah. So we wait in line. We get to the front of the line. We're like, what's going on? Like, do you think any of these flights are gonna go out? The guy pulls out the weather app on his phone and he's like. He's like, man, it doesn't look good. And it's like, dude, we. Like, we've all got iPhones. Like, we weren't waiting in line. Yeah, we weren't waiting in line for someone to look at the weather on their phone. Dude.

[Roan]

Harry. Harry at one point, like, turned me and said, what? That. And then I. And he was surprised that I wasn't mad.

[Harry]

No, you were. You were fired up too.

[Roan]

No, I was just. I was. I was annoyed, but accepting I was designed.

[Harry]

We got outside and you were like, I'm trying really hard to not lose my cool right now.

[Roan]

I'm saying what you wanted to hear. I like to feed the beast here. You're the tone setter. Misery loves company. The only time you like hanging out with me is when I'm fucking miserable too.

[Harry]

Oh, no.

[Roan]

We're both mad about the same thing,

[Harry]

but I genuinely don't. I can't think of a word. Maybe jfk. I can't think of, like, a worse airport to have to go to to then leave because that airport is so far away from everything.

[Roan]

I spent three hours in Ubers to and from o' Hare on the same afternoon.

[Harry]

Yeah, you went back. I was like, I'm there. I waved the white flag.

[Roan]

And then there again because all of a sudden it was sunny.

[Harry]

I don't know what. And what the Was that. They're like, it's going to. I'm hearing from everyone there's going to be tornadoes.

[Roan]

Yeah, you're. You kept going to tornadoes.

[Harry]

Yeah, because that's what they told me.

[Roan]

You were like, we need to find the tornado shelter here in o'. Hare.

[Harry]

Yeah, on the yak. Everyone' there's going to be tornadoes. And then I'm like, I'm telling Francis. I'm like, apparently it's just going to get worse. Like, this is going to keep getting worse.

[Roan]

Harry was throwing tornado around in the airport, as if, you know, like. As if it was like some kind of ice cream treat that he was hungry for.

[Francis]

Really? You were saying that. That one. I treat tornado like saying like gun in a movie theater.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I don't even put the energy into the air. That's how they start.

[Harry]

No, I was throwing it around. I was definitely.

[Roan]

He was telling. Didn't you tell other passengers?

[Harry]

Yeah, I told a lady in the Delta Lounge.

[Roan]

That's what it was.

[Harry]

I said, this flight's not going tornadoes. I said, there's going to be a tornado.

[Roan]

And he told her because. Because we were on her flight. We're sitting in the Delta Lounge. We're on our flight.

[Harry]

First of all, this was pretty baller, though, you got to admit. When, you know, like this just. It kind of just goes to show, like, we've been here before, We've done this before. Like, we didn't wait for more than five minutes. And we were like, let's get the fuck out of here.

[Roan]

No, hold on a second. First of all, Harry's behind me because he went through security. He doesn't have TSA PreCheck. I don't know why. He's some kind of conspiracy theorist.

[Harry]

No, I just don't. I haven't gone and gotten it.

[Roan]

He doesn't want his name on any sort of.

[Francis]

Only person that's ever waived it. Yeah, the only person that had it gave it up. Now wait in line.

[Roan]

You know how he always knocks? Clear Guy jumped right into the clear line.

[Harry]

Oh, yeah. I've been paying for it.

[Francis]

He's.

[Roan]

He's had clear. But he hates it.

[Harry]

But I hate it. But when it's. When it's useful, it's useful.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Isn't that the exact business model?

[Harry]

Yeah, but nothing's more annoying than when you're depending on it. The thing is, I just don't depend on it anymore. I used to rely on it. And then you get there and there's more people in the clear line than the general line.

[Roan]

He's a bit of a clear weather fan. So the point is he's behind me because I had TSA pre. I just got right through, and I go into the lounge and he comes in after me. I've chosen for our seats.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Which ones? At the very front or did you go back to the left?

[Harry]

Middle of the pack?

[Roan]

Back to the left.

[Francis]

All the way back.

[Harry]

Not all the.

[Francis]

Too far.

[Harry]

Not all the way back. But like, kind of like closer to the bathroom.

[Francis]

Yeah. More seating over there.

[Roan]

And we're there. And I Went to go get some food. And when I got back, Harry was there. And then sitting next to us was a young guy who.

[Harry]

Probably like my age, his shoes off

[Roan]

and his feet in socks on a food table. Not a fucking table like this. A table that is at, you know,

[Harry]

level one person to eat food off of.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Harry]

And he's got his bare socks on the table.

[Roan]

His stinky black socks.

[Francis]

Black.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Those hold. Those hold more smell than white socks.

[Roan]

They really do.

[Harry]

And look, I'm not like I was saying to Francis, I was like, I'm not like a. Like a manners guy. Like, I obviously, like. But like. Like, I'm not super picky about stuff like that. That stuff doesn't bother me. That was genuinely one of the craziest things I've ever seen.

[Francis]

If you go smack a.

[Harry]

He was with. The guy was with his dad.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Harry]

I was like, dude, my dad would have knocked me clean out if I did that.

[Roan]

And I liked hearing that from you.

[Harry]

Yeah. I mean, that's like crazy.

[Roan]

We were raised similarly. I would never have done that.

[Harry]

I've never seen that.

[Roan]

Yeah. It was truly. I mean, you got a phone.

[Harry]

We'll have to tell.

[Roan]

I have to photo to Tyler the story of it. But, you know, it was. It was truly like the Chicago Black sox scandal of 2026.

[Francis]

Really?

[Roan]

And.

[Francis]

And his ass.

[Roan]

Yeah. And. And we walked out.

[Francis]

Oh.

[Roan]

As we're leaving, there's a woman who was sitting near us because we're talking about tornadoes and, you know, tsunamis and Armageddons and talking about all the reasons we're probably not getting out that day. And we're going to LaGuardia. And we're like, yeah, let's fucking bail. And this woman sees us bailing and she pulls her headphones out and she's like, were you guys on that LaGuardia flight? We were like, yeah, we were. And she was like, and you think. You don't think it's gonna go. And Harry was like, torn it. Not with the tornadoes that are barreling down.

[Harry]

I said. What I said was like, I've been in this situation so many times where they keep delaying it and then they just cancel it.

[Francis]

Right. And did you show her The Max Velocity YouTube live stream?

[Harry]

No, but that is what all of my knowledge was coming from. Yeah. Which I don't know if they're. I'm hope there. It seemed like there were some tornadoes somewhere.

[Francis]

Well, I mean, he was dead on where he was like, if your flight's at 2, you'll get out anything later. It's going to.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And it was 2:30 flight. It was dubious.

[Harry]

It was dubious.

[Francis]

Velocity was on the fucking money.

[Harry]

Velocity. Nailed it. But then the flight ended up going.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

I went back to the airport, just hoping on a prayer, back to the lounge. I checked in and I was flying standby. Now, on our original flight that I had been booked off of.

[Francis]

This is the plot of Home Alone.

[Roan]

I know. And the woman at the front desk was like, oh, there's a lot of people on standby, but maybe given your status, you'll have a shot. There were 10 seats that were not filled. I was the 10th of 10 added off of the standby list of 50 standby passengers.

[Harry]

Oh, shit, 50.

[Francis]

So you jumped some people then?

[Roan]

I jumped 40.

[Francis]

Oh, you were 51.

[Roan]

I was. I was.

[Francis]

You were Puerto Rico.

[Roan]

I beat out. Yeah.

[Francis]

You jumped to fucking.

[Roan]

I was Michelle Obama. Yeah, exactly.

[Harry]

Crazy.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

What the fuck? That's amazing.

[Harry]

I didn't know that's how that worked.

[Roan]

I was the last guy on and there was a woman to my right. When I sat down, I did have a middle seat. Not great. But she was like. She was like, I'm surprised you're not flying up front. She was like a Boydad fan.

[Harry]

Oh, really?

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Harry]

That's funny.

[Roan]

And then I'm sitting on the flight the whole time being like, well, I better not fart and pick my nose and shit.

[Harry]

Better not open up my phone.

[Roan]

Better be on my best behavior. In fact, I literally read the entire flight so that she would think that's what I do. And I'll be honest, I loved it.

[Harry]

Yeah, I got it for.

[Roan]

For the first time. And how I can't remember how long I got off the flight being like, boy, my eyes don't feel bloodshot. I don't feel strained. Yeah, I just read for two hours.

[Harry]

That's nice.

[Roan]

I'm also loving my book. I've already mentioned it a number of times. The sun by Philip Meyer. Holy, what a book.

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How long?

[Roan]

It's like probably 450 pages, something like that.

[Francis]

How many did you get through on the. On the flight page? A minute?

[Roan]

15, 80, 70, something like that.

[Harry]

Yeah, I don't know, I'm not that.

[Roan]

I'm not that fast of a reader.

[Francis]

No, don't say that.

[Roan]

I'm not even being self deprecating. I. I like to enjoy the pros.

[Harry]

Nothing wrong with that. Appreciate the grammar. Appreciate that punctuation. That's a genuine grammar with the semicolon there.

[Roan]

Like a boy who enjoys a bachelor party. Party in Colombia. I like the pros.

[Francis]

Oh wow. Very nice. And the Dominican Republic has the pros too.

[Roan]

Is that so?

[Francis]

I've heard. I've heard it's a very professional city. Really books the fight.

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[Francis]

I'm going to the Senegal Norway game tonight.

[Harry]

Oh my God. Really?

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Where is it? MetLife?

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Hell yeah.

[Roan]

I wanted to go to a game.

[Francis]

That's the one that's gonna be. I mean I don't know if it's the one. It's the one I'm going to.

[Harry]

What team are you rooting for?

[Francis]

Come on. I think Norway. I don't have anything to prove. I can root for Norway right With impunity. Feels like you think they take the title from me. They're not gonna.

[Harry]

Yeah. Any Norway gear though? Like what's your gear situation?

[Francis]

I have a man's a man city. I mean just like a man city jersey.

[Roan]

Erling Hall, Holland.

[Francis]

But it's not a Holland jersey. But it's just like a blank man city.

[Harry]

So does that. I don't know what that means.

[Francis]

He play. That's his club.

[Roan]

He's a striker on.

[Harry]

So that. Yeah, that's the best players in the

[Francis]

world that should play that should play, right?

[Harry]

Yeah. Yeah. That's gonna be sick. That's gonna be like. I'm excited to hear about it because I've heard, like.

[Francis]

You didn't hear about it?

[Harry]

What, the World Cup? Yeah, no, I. I've heard. I've heard. I just don't know anyone that's been personally, but my sister and her husband went to.

[Roan]

Your sister's married?

[Harry]

Yeah, we've had this conversation, like, five times.

[Roan]

What? When?

[Harry]

Over a year ago. We went. They went on their honeymoon.

[Francis]

Isn't that good news?

[Roan]

Have I met her yet?

[Harry]

No, they went to game in England.

[Roan]

Where do they live?

[Harry]

Massachusetts.

[Roan]

So I'll meet them at Logan.

[Harry]

Yeah, probably.

[Francis]

You should.

[Roan]

I'm going in next week.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Yeah, you should see them.

[Roan]

Can you tell them to swing through?

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Roan]

All right.

[Francis]

That upstairs. Delta Lounge.

[Harry]

But they went to a game, and they said it was insane.

[Francis]

Really?

[Harry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Francis]

It's got to be. Who's playing? Was it the.

[Roan]

It was.

[Harry]

I forget.

[Francis]

Oh, you said it was in England.

[Roan]

It was in England that they went to the. A World cup game.

[Harry]

No, it wasn't a World Cup. They just went to, like, a massive soccer game. I forget what it was.

[Roan]

A friendly, probably.

[Harry]

Probably something like that, huh? But I mean, they look so sick.

[Francis]

It looks so fun.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Like the environment.

[Francis]

I got to get in with the Norwegian dudes, just be like, oh, yeah, that shit looks sick.

[Roan]

I think I want to go to an England game.

[Harry]

That would be awesome.

[Roan]

That's who I'd like to see.

[Harry]

Yeah. It's probably expensive, right?

[Francis]

This one's like a random. There's even a Philly game, I think. Philly. Iraq or something like that tonight as well. Or France. I'm sorry. France against Iraq in Philly. I was like, philly's playing against Phillies.

[Harry]

Playing Iraq.

[Francis]

Philly pd.

[Harry]

I didn't see that coming.

[Francis]

Yeah, no. Philly's really good this year, the Union. But I think that tickets to see France and Philly are more expensive just because it's France. So England would probably be expensive, was the point I was clumsily trying to make.

[Harry]

Makes sense.

[Francis]

My clumsy ass point.

[Harry]

I haven't really kept up too much. I. I watched. I've been watch. I watched the U.S. of course, I didn't. I missed most of the. Their second game. That was actually when I was checking into the hotel and I could hear people in the bar yelling about it.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Harry]

But I didn't.

[Francis]

They look good.

[Harry]

They look good. They look. They look good.

[Francis]

Yeah, they look good.

[Harry]

Are they gonna win?

[Francis]

No, no, but they can make the quarterfinal, though. I think that they have enough.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Nice.

[Francis]

A nice draw so far. That would be sick.

[Roan]

We do. They say that our group has been a historically easy group.

[Harry]

Oh, really?

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Harry]

But that's what they always say. They say that about any team that's doing well. It said about the Patriots last year, you know, people love blaming the schedule.

[Roan]

Fine.

[Francis]

The they've been playing.

[Roan]

There's just a humility around knowing that we haven't been exactly tested by a world superpower of soccer.

[Harry]

No.

[Francis]

Messy, but, like random teams. You know, Spain's getting weird ties and Belgium's getting weird. You know, everything's.

[Harry]

Yeah. Was Spain the one where that guy, like, did that bet?

[Francis]

I don't know.

[Roan]

You know, people do like.

[Francis]

They'll do like the LeBron million dollars to make 80,000. Yeah, maybe.

[Roan]

Yeah, I saw that against Cape Verde, right?

[Harry]

Yeah. Yeah, because people will do that. Well, they'll bet like LeBron to have over 10 points. And it like, for. I mean, up until. Until, like, I think towards the end of this year, it had hit every single time, forever, pretty much since he started playing. And then it. One day, it just didn't hit. People lost.

[Francis]

That's a tough way to live.

[Roan]

Damn.

[Harry]

Well, it's a pretty tough bet to make where you got to put in a bunch of money to make. Not a lot of money, but, like, the idea is that it's like a guarantee. It's a lock, but then it isn't.

[Roan]

Right.

[Francis]

Yeah, that sounds nice.

[Roan]

Right?

[Francis]

I've been asked. I've been asked bet in the World Cup. Luckily, I. I did good during basketball, but I'm like 1 in 10 bet in the World Cup. I need some winners, Francis. I need some winners from you, brother.

[Harry]

I won. I won when the US Won the first game, and then I put another bed in and I lost. And then I'm done. Yeah, that's it for me.

[Francis]

I just don't know the game. I don't know the beautiful game like these people do.

[Harry]

I don't.

[Francis]

I respect the beautiful game, but I don't know it.

[Harry]

Nothing but respect for the game. Yeah, but I do not understand it.

[Francis]

They're saying that the American team's playing little ticky taco stuff, though. Oh, really?

[Roan]

Are they now? Who's the coach? Is it Mario Enchiladi or whatever Marion

[Francis]

Enchilada is his name. Really?

[Roan]

Enchilada tonight is a marinade. Marinated enchiladi.

[Francis]

Yeah, we got marinated enchiladi out there.

[Roan]

Brown butter reduction.

[Francis]

It's gonna be sick. I'm gonna. But I don't know what the travel's gonna be like.

[Harry]

It's gonna.

[Francis]

I mean, Sean said we paid for parking at the American Dream Mall, which is supposed to be right next door. So it's a 15 minute walk.

[Roan]

Supposedly is really good.

[Francis]

Supposedly like that. Supposedly. And it was pretty expensive. But just get. I mean, I just don't want to take the transit. Seems like a nightmare. Why is the transit so much worse than a Giants game?

[Harry]

I don't. I actually. I think it's probably the same. I think just the. Have you. When was the last time you've been to a Giants game?

[Francis]

It sucked ass.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

It was impossible to leave. But I didn't.

[Harry]

When I went last time I went to MetLife, I went to Bill's game with Shane. It was the opening game. It was the game where Aaron Rogers got hurt. I'm gonna name drop and I'm gonna go a little bit further as well.

[Francis]

Aaron Rodgers.

[Harry]

We had field passes.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Harry]

From Josh Allen that were given to Shane and me. Of course. Don't forget about me. I was in there as well. I'm sure Josh knew that. I went to Shane's apartment at 3pm and he was like, we just got to get to the. We just got to get to the stadium by like 7:30 to get the team to get the field passes. And we left his apartment I think at 3:30 and we got to the game at think 8:25.

[Roan]

No way.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Yep.

[Harry]

We did not get the field passes. And the first play of the game that we saw was Aaron Rogers getting hurt.

[Francis]

How the. Did you walk? What do you mean? It took five hours.

[Harry]

We were stuck in traffic for hours.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Hours. There was a.

[Harry]

There was at one point where we were at a. We were at a red light for so long. I got out of the car, went and got us beers and then came back to the car and it had not moved.

[Francis]

What? Where?

[Harry]

This was like. It was like right up. It was like by like Midtown.

[Francis]

What?

[Harry]

Yeah. It was also pouring out.

[Francis]

The traffic was in the city.

[Harry]

It was in the city and it was going into the game.

[Roan]

It was.

[Harry]

I think it was the first game of the year and it was Aaron Rodgers first game with the Jets.

[Francis]

What a trash stadium city setup.

[Harry]

And I've also had times where I've gone and it's taken me like three hours to get home. Getting home is brutal.

[Francis]

I hate to hear this.

[Harry]

So best of luck.

[Francis]

You. Yeah. Such a scumbag.

[Harry]

I'm just letting you know I'M saying, I think it is just. It's probably just as bad for those games.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

You know, it wasn't bad. Was going to the Cubs game with Big Cat.

[Francis]

Yeah, that was.

[Harry]

Yeah, that was super easy.

[Roan]

How nice is it that there's a beautiful ballpark right smack dab in the middle of the city? You just walk in.

[Harry]

It's pretty sick. We waltzed in, and Big Cat is like, goodfellas. Like, that felt like we were walking. It felt like the beginning of Goodfellows.

[Francis]

Yeah. That was crazy that we came out through the dugout, out.

[Roan]

All three of us were like, you just gave that man $20.

[Harry]

It's pretty crazy because, like, it. I don't know if you guys felt this. It feels like there's kind of like a mutual respect between, like, Big Cat and, like, his fans. He'll say hi, but, like, don't come up and don't be, like, bothering.

[Roan]

He's there so frequently that people who are there know not to just.

[Harry]

There's like. There was, like, a couple people that would be like, can I get a few photo? But for the most part, everyone's just like, hey, Big Cat. And then he's like, head down. Just like, hey. And just keeps walking. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

[Roan]

That was cool. I totally agree.

[Harry]

And his seats are insane. Yeah, Right on the right on the dugout.

[Roan]

Second row, just past the first base.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

The pitcher comes up to you before the inning and asks, like, what should I start off with?

[Harry]

Yeah, yeah. Shakes your hand.

[Francis]

Should I throw the curve?

[Roan]

We were in a difficult spot to get at foul balls or balls that were sort of foul tips that, like the pitching coach or, you know, first.

[Harry]

Which you were pretty. You were pretty torn up about.

[Roan]

Well, I certainly was, because I'll never forget getting a foul ball at a Portland Sea Dogs game.

[Harry]

Yeah, of course. I remember getting mine at the Boston Braves or the Born Braves.

[Francis]

You went to the Born Braves?

[Harry]

Of course.

[Francis]

Damn. I didn't realize anybody was still going.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Paul Tuckett. You ever go up to Paw Tuckett?

[Harry]

Of course.

[Francis]

Paul Tuckett's got a good squad, great team, team.

[Harry]

Love what they're doing.

[Roan]

New ownership, I think the grandfather and tuck everlasting.

[Francis]

Who tucks his dick between his legs.

[Roan]

Old Paul Tuck it.

[Francis]

He's always running around the campsite with his. With his bird out. They're like, paul, Tuck it,

[Roan]

Man. Oh, very good.

[Harry]

Lots of. Lots of esports stuff going on this week.

[Roan]

Okay. Okay.

[Harry]

Counter strike major just wrapped up.

[Roan]

Wait a minute. I have a question. I'm seeing all these clips.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Other groups are talking about you guys.

[Francis]

Who faze?

[Roan]

Who isn't?

[Harry]

Oh, like, yeah, the LA thieves were talking about us.

[Roan]

Do they all have podcasts?

[Harry]

Yeah, they do. They're like. They all do like a podcast with, like, their players.

[Francis]

It's usually like.

[Roan]

Like, I had a hard time understanding if they were being a little bit like, kind of, you know, curving you guys a little bit.

[Harry]

No, no, no.

[Roan]

Guys swerving.

[Francis]

Yeah, they were swerving. You.

[Harry]

I mean, that's like. That's the top team in the league right now.

[Roan]

Were they being a little snide about you guys or were they being appreciative?

[Harry]

I think they're being appreciative.

[Roan]

That's not the way I took it.

[Harry]

Well, you don't know them.

[Roan]

I. Neither do you. I do. You don't know them personally.

[Harry]

I genuinely do.

[Roan]

What are their names?

[Harry]

Which ones?

[Roan]

Oh, see?

[Harry]

Scrap.

[Francis]

Scrap government names.

[Harry]

Ernie. Wait, wait, that's his name. It's Ernie. He's the best player in the league right now.

[Roan]

Right?

[Harry]

Talking about the bush.

[Roan]

One of them had, like, a French accent.

[Harry]

Yeah, that's Hydra.

[Roan]

Hydra Government.

[Harry]

I don't know.

[Roan]

I sensed a little bit of guff coming from Hydra.

[Harry]

Well, he's like. I mean, he's king of the world.

[Roan]

He's the best.

[Harry]

He's like. Yeah. I mean, right now, the best player

[Roan]

of Call of Duty.

[Harry]

I think he won MVP at the last major.

[Roan]

He's the best call her duty player in the world.

[Harry]

Probably like top three.

[Roan]

Really?

[Harry]

Yeah. If not number one right now.

[Roan]

Just hard to believe that a Frenchman would be good at war. The.

[Harry]

The mage. The major this weekend is in Paris. It's the. It's going to be the biggest Call of Duty event ever. There's gonna be like 30,000 people there or some fair.

[Roan]

Okay.

[Harry]

The French, they love esports. Love them.

[Roan]

Right?

[Francis]

I wonder why.

[Harry]

I don't know.

[Roan]

So wait a second. If you go back and watch that clip, I'm going to tell you right now, I think you're going to read between the lines and see that they're not that thrilled about what you guys are up to.

[Harry]

I don't know if we're talking about the same clip. Are we? I mean, we must be.

[Roan]

I think they were talking about how they didn't think that you guys were paying your players enough or something like that.

[Francis]

Ernie was saying that there was like.

[Roan]

There was someone said something like $2,000 and like, they were asking for more. Maybe they thought they were. You guys were asking for too much. Money for a certain player.

[Francis]

Oh. Oh.

[Harry]

They were probably talking about the buyout thing that happened with C9. That's what they were talking about. Now I know you're talking about. Yeah, that's like a whole different thing. That's.

[Francis]

That.

[Harry]

That's. Yeah. We were asking for an insane amount of money.

[Roan]

How much?

[Harry]

$10,000 and that.

[Roan]

And then you settled for, what, $2,000. That is a high amount.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Negotiating. That's what Shaq does.

[Harry]

Yeah. Start high.

[Francis]

That's exactly what Shaq does.

[Harry]

Start high. End lower than you were hoping for.

[Francis]

Magic.

[Harry]

And way below what you guys were expecting. But the bush. I mean, my God, it's a dynasty. We've won the last four tournaments.

[Roan]

When's the next major?

[Harry]

This weekend in Paris. So if we win this major, the dynasty will be cemented. We will be. I think we'll be the greatest challengers team of all time.

[Roan]

You won the previous major.

[Harry]

Yes.

[Roan]

And that was where.

[Harry]

In Atlanta.

[Francis]

If I'm another challengers team, I'm, like, pissed off and just like, all right, just go to, like, go to the pros now. Like, stop being, like, a super team and, like, let everybody compete.

[Harry]

Yeah, that's what is happening.

[Roan]

But now that I think about it, they were saying that they thought you guys should be pros.

[Harry]

Yeah. Yeah, our team should be.

[Roan]

Is there a chance you'll get promoted?

[Harry]

No. No.

[Roan]

Why not?

[Harry]

Because the way that it works is it's. There's so much money in it.

[Roan]

It's enough with the money. It's all I hear. Can't we argue?

[Harry]

I'll give you the. The full rundown. The way that. The. What happened is the way that all esports work pretty much is that it's like, open bracket. Like. Like, anyone can really compete, and you can sort of work your way up to being considered, like, a pro team. Call of Duty is in 2019, I think, franchised. So now there's only 12 teams, and they want each of the 12 teams to, like, represent, like, a city. So that, like, the idea would be, like, there's a team like the Boston Breach. Like, the idea would be, like, people from Boston would be, like, go Breach. Like, I love the Breach. In reality, no one in Boston gives a. About the Boston Breach or really, a lot of people don't really care about esports, so that didn't work at all. All those teams all had to pay $20 million to get into the league to get their spot. A couple years later, no one was getting the returns that they were promised. They were all Promised that, like, they were going to be making a ton

[Francis]

of money off of, like, who got the 20 million?

[Harry]

What do you mean?

[Francis]

They all paid 20 million to who?

[Harry]

Activision. Activision is the company that owns Call of Duty.

[Francis]

What?

[Harry]

So they were all promised these things, like they were going to make a bunch of money from like, the. The microtransactions in games, like buying skins off of, like, sponsorship off of viewership. All this did was actually it hurt the league more than anything because now instead of getting this like, open bracket style where you're like, there's like, amp, like Pro Ams. Like, it used to be like, every tournament would be like a Pro Am, and now it's. You're watching the same 12 pro teams play each other every single time, when in reality only four of those pro teams are even competitive. So then the bottom eight teams are like, our players could beat a lot of those teams. So the reason that we can't just get into the pro league is because those people, they. They were refunded their $20 million because they. Because of how poorly everything went, but still, like, there's this exclusivity to it where they don't want to just let us in for free when they've had to go through all of this when they.

[Francis]

To give money and got all the money back.

[Harry]

Well, I think they got most of it back, but they didn't get it all back.

[Francis]

Got it.

[Harry]

So, like, they don't want us to just come in and reap all the benefits that they were promised when they had to spend all this money.

[Francis]

Oh, so they're. They got an embargo on you guys?

[Harry]

Pretty much. So, like, we have to like, like right now would not even be. It would be stupid for us to go to the league right now because

[Francis]

you really should be trying to just like, be like, hey, nobody should have ever gave money to Activision. This should be by the people, for the people.

[Harry]

Exactly.

[Francis]

And everybody should just compete at our league. Like, you need to get Pro Ams going against those top four teams.

[Harry]

Yes.

[Francis]

And just get them down to play against you guys.

[Harry]

No, that's like, that's actually like what needs to happen.

[Roan]

Would they be allowed to do that?

[Harry]

No, by no means.

[Francis]

But like, allowed by Activision? By the. By the man, by the corporation.

[Harry]

Activision would not let that happen.

[Roan]

Paul Rabel started a rival lacrosse league a number of years ago called the pll. Up to that point, it was just the MLL as far as outdoor lacrosse went.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

And they underpaid their players it was poorly organized fans turnout was not very good. He built a new league and then all the MLL players came over.

[Francis]

But then he starts dating Diana Rossini and it's like, what? All right, Coach Rabel, like, I don't know why you want to do that. That kind of like undercuts the whole PLL thing. Because they had a good thing going. Yeah. And now.

[Harry]

Well, yeah, he fucked it all up,

[Francis]

but AJ Brown's going to be playing PLL this year, so.

[Harry]

Yeah, I mean, the whole thing's broken. Fun fact. This is a fun fact. We have out earned with the we. So we've won eight tournaments this year. We've out earned eight of the 12 CDL teams this year. In terms of winnings.

[Roan]

All of them combined, you mean?

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

No.

[Harry]

Like we have made more money from prize winnings than.

[Francis]

For the players then. Yeah, right. For the players.

[Sponsor/Ad Voice]

Players.

[Harry]

Oh, oh, the, the top fight then in comparison to.

[Roan]

So this is kind of my point. Isn't there an argument to be made that the pro league would benefit from the exposure that Bush brings to the game? The esports?

[Harry]

Yes, 1000%.

[Roan]

But why don't you make that argument?

[Harry]

That's the only argument.

[Roan]

Okay, that argument at some point, the

[Harry]

reason is it's not. It's like they know that the league knows that we know that. It's the billion dollar owners of these teams that put all this money into it that would refuse to let happen.

[Roan]

I'm just saying that if you somehow got into the top flight, I bet you that the sponsorships for Bush.

[Harry]

Oh yeah.

[Roan]

The level of seriousness with which the company would take you guys 100%, everything is gonna start floating your way.

[Harry]

But also something that you have to consider is that the overhead for us right now is very small compared to if we were in the pro league. Everyone has to get paid an actual $60,000 a year salary, including the coach. Like it's just not an option right now.

[Francis]

Yeah. And the people he's fighting against are the Saudis, sort of somewhat Jordanians.

[Harry]

No, no, they are the Saudis. They don't own the whole league.

[Francis]

Got it, Got it. But those are the owners who are like, don't let them in.

[Harry]

No, no, they don't give a fuck. They would probably love for us to be in. It's the owners that don't that wouldn't want us to be in. Who are those billionaires are the bottom teams who like think that they got like fucked over and now they just like, who's like, what statue do we

[Francis]

have to handcuff ourselves to. To make this happen. Whose office do we have to storm in Mass to make this happen?

[Harry]

I don't want to say it, but Robert Kraft, to be honest.

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Yeah.

[Francis]

Wait, so Dave could just talk to him?

[Harry]

They. Apparently Dave talked to them and they were like, we lost a shit ton of money.

[Francis]

What about. What if Meek Mill and Jay Z talked to him?

[Harry]

No, that. That could work.

[Francis]

Didn't. I think this weekend they just bought him a Maybach. They bought him a new Maybach? Yeah, the one he's.

[Harry]

Oh, I saw that. I did see that. Yeah.

[Francis]

Meek Mill and Ro. Robert Meek Mill and Jay Z and someone else bought Robert Kraft a Maybach.

[Harry]

Yeah, I saw that.

[Roan]

Why?

[Harry]

Because he needed it.

[Francis]

Yeah, he wanted it really bad. And it was his 62nd birthday or some shit.

[Harry]

He wanted it really bad. For some reason he didn't already have it. Even though he could probably buy the

[Francis]

dealership easily, but he had to get gifted a Maybach. The fact that they're going in on a gift is a little bit poor.

[Harry]

Yeah, it's a little poor.

[Francis]

You know what I mean?

[Harry]

Buying two Maybachs.

[Francis]

Buy him your own Maybach.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Francis]

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[Harry]

He's still doing that whole thing? The whole, like, prison reform? No, the craft. What, the Blue Square.

[Francis]

What's that?

[Roan]

The.

[Harry]

The. He's like. He has a whole, like. Is it in Gillette where they have the whole, like, system that's, like, monitoring, like, Jewish hate online?

[Francis]

I don't know. It.

[Harry]

He's. You've never seen this?

[Francis]

No, I don't think I have.

[Harry]

Oh, this is. It's crazy. He's got like a whole, like, it's. It looks like it's straight out of, like, the CIA and they've got like, like, TVs on the screen, like, tracking tweets and stuff. Stuff.

[Francis]

And it's like if you walk into a stadium, so you. You get banned because you.

[Harry]

No, he's doing it as, like, a worldwide thing and it just happens to be happening, like, at Gillette. There was like, a video of him, like, walking someone on the Patriots, like, through the whole thing. It was very. It was. It was interesting.

[Francis]

Gotta be Edelman.

[Harry]

It wasn't really. Yeah, I think it was Will Campbell.

[Francis]

He was talking Will Campbell through it. Like.

[Harry]

You see this? Yeah, yeah. But have you seen, like, the actual, like, lab that they've got.

[Francis]

They have a lab. Is it like in. Yeah. The Dark Knight where he's like, Mr. No, it's literally like, get rid of this.

[Harry]

It's genuinely like that.

[Francis]

I'll have to destroy the system when I'm done with it.

[Roan]

This is too powerful for one man.

[Harry]

No, it is this.

[Roan]

Yeah.

[Harry]

Wow. He's got a whole fucking. Yeah, it's near. Oh, yeah, there he is in the lab.

[Roan]

All right.

[Francis]

Don't tell me it's just a computer.

[Roan]

Blue Square Alliance Against Hate. That doesn't really roll off the tongue that. Well.

[Harry]

No, this is all craft. Yeah, look at this. Look at.

[Francis]

Well, they have it on really big screens. It's like a NASA launch kind of, isn't it? Yeah, it does like that. Wow. It's in a boardroom. Yeah, they. They. Did they use Jumbotron technology on that?

[Harry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Francis]

Fascinating.

[Harry]

And it's broken down into, like, categories. Did you see that? Holocaust related.

[Roan]

I don't know any of this stuff. This is all I do. Wow.

[Francis]

I do Hate. Jewish hate.

[Harry]

Of course. Who doesn't?

[Francis]

I don't know. You're kind of making light of Jewish hate.

[Harry]

I'm not making light. I'm making light of the facility of the Jewish hate that Robert Kraft runs. This is why the. This is why the Boston Breach can't succeed. All of the money's going into the Blue Square alliance you guys are talking

[Francis]

about on the bush calls. Have you seen this? They're trying to stop hate. And by they're getting gifted maybacks.

[Harry]

Classic.

[Francis]

Fascinating. Truly fascinating.

[Harry]

I feel like I'm getting a good sweat going in here today.

[Francis]

It's a nice fit.

[Harry]

A little sauna. We should get one of those. The rocks right here. Yeah, you can pour some body armor on them.

[Francis]

So. And it just steams up the room.

[Harry]

Yeah, pour a little more body armor on those rocks.

[Francis]

Has anyone ever done a podcast in a shower or is that dangerous? Or a sauna? You think that you would die.

[Harry]

No, I don't think you'd die, but maybe you'd get like electrocuted.

[Roan]

Guys, I turned my shower on this morning and the water came dark brown.

[Harry]

Really?

[Roan]

Yeah. I took a picture of it. I'll send it to Tyler to put on the screen.

[Francis]

But that happens every time I try to draw a bath for my kids. I have to let it run for.

[Roan]

There was this the whole time?

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Roan]

What the.

[Harry]

That happens to both of you?

[Francis]

Yeah, we get. It's. It's from the fracking.

[Roan]

Jesus.

[Harry]

I've never had that. Ever.

[Francis]

Must be nice. Yeah.

[Harry]

It's got black sludge coming out of your sinks.

[Francis]

It was just where my kids bathe.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Roan]

Blue Square found a bunch of anti Semitic tweets of mine and changed my water.

[Francis]

Now it only rains over his apartment.

[Roan]

Why don't we divert the sewage pipe with the clean water pipe and see how he likes that for a day or two.

[Harry]

Six months of black sludge for Ellis.

[Francis]

Black sludge. That was probably. Is. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Foul. Yeah. I can't wait for this game. It's going to be so nice. You guys haven't watched any Love Island? No, I did watch a documentary that would be right up your guys alley. It was the darkest, most depressing thing I've ever heard or saw in my life. What was was about some lady that like gets pulled over for having a baby.

[Harry]

Oh, I saw this. I saw the trailer and now I. I did not even.

[Francis]

It's the. It's the lowest vibration. Dark. Nothing from it.

[Harry]

I don't really know.

[Francis]

About time you got to see it.

[Harry]

That Was a. That was. As soon as I saw the. Even the description, I was like, yeah, no, I'm good on that.

[Roan]

It's a doc or a movie?

[Francis]

It's a doc number one on Netflix. It's so dark and terrible. You have to watch it.

[Harry]

Is it. Is it actually worth watching?

[Francis]

Absolutely not. You got to see it. Yeah.

[Harry]

Now, I'm not gonna. I'm gonna skip that.

[Francis]

I literally. It added nothing to my life. And it's only. And I hate to be going on a sexist rant, but it's. It's for the girls. This is all for girls. Girls are doing this.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Dudes are not clamoring for this.

[Harry]

I'm kind of out on just, like, the true crime in general. Like, I think that that. That crash documentary was kind of the last one for me where I was like. I was like, this wasn't even really that good. And it kind of just was, like, depressing. And I don't. I'm not really getting anything out of

[Francis]

this doc miniseries for sure. And that's why I was drawn to this one. It's like, it's an hour 26, and they tell the whole story.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

In. But nope, not worth it. Dude.

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The.

[Harry]

The. The True crimes, where it's just like, something that happened in, like, a local town that, like, no one's ever really heard about. And, like, maybe one person died brutally. It's like, do we really need a.

[Francis]

Yeah, that's your business, bro.

[Harry]

Yeah, like, that doesn't need to be made into a movie. Like, it's just like a tragedy.

[Roan]

Preach.

[Harry]

Like, I get it more when it's like, Ted Bundy. You're like, he's a guy. Well, no, it's more so just like, how did this even happen? Happen? Like, he killed, like, 80 people or some. Like, how did you gotta. You wanna. You wanna learn about. Like, that's more interesting because. Because of, like, the absurdity of it. But, like, yeah, I don't need to see a documentary about a girl driving her boyfriend into a tree. Like, I'm sure that happens quite a bit. You know, I mean, look, like, we don't need to make a documentary about every car crash that happens.

[Roan]

Happens.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Harry]

It's just like, doesn't it feel a little wrong?

[Francis]

I. I totally agree. Like, when it's on, I think it's dark. It's dark. Low vibration energy.

[Harry]

Yeah, but, like, it doesn't. It, like, it feels more wrong when it's like a smaller story for some reason.

[Francis]

Well, because it's these people were never meant to be famous. And now everybody who's involved with the story's life is ruined.

[Harry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And it's like now they have a. There's a spotlight on them.

[Harry]

Yeah. There is a chance.

[Francis]

They get like. Like Oklahoma panhandle off of it.

[Harry]

Yeah, that's true.

[Francis]

That is true. Get local. Local. A local crazy woman. Yeah. But that's best case scenario. All right, all right, cool.