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Francis
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Ron
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Harry
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Francis
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Harry
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Ron
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Francis
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Harry
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Ron
Plus, by the way, my credit score, I don't know what the. Is going on down.
Harry
Is it down?
Ron
It's just there's factors that, like, I. I don't understand where they're coming from. I don't understand. Checking it. Huh?
Harry
Checking it too much.
Ron
It's fine. It's 7:57 right now.
Harry
You'll be all right.
Ron
That's pretty good.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
Favorite plane and your credit score?
Harry
Mine's a CRJ 900.
Francis
Mine's a 380.
Ron
Mine's the 800.
Harry
The 800?
Ron
Yeah.
Harry
I don't know if I know that one.
Ron
It's a plane made after a credit score. All right already.
Harry
Welcome back to the Son of a Boy Dad Podcast. Today it is a day.
Francis
That's the truth. Is that your old knife, Francis?
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
It's a nice knife.
Ron
Well, I. I got it.
Harry
You bought it? Like, is that from home or did you get that in the office?
Ron
The kitchen.
Francis
Oh, it's light, actually. I thought it was going to be heavy. No, I just retooled on my knives at home. A mixture of Swedish and Japanese.
Ron
Did you really?
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Talk to me about that.
Francis
I got some absolute heat. Some heavy hitters. The Swedish ones are from this Swedish chef that he just died. I don't even know him. He's like a famous Swedish celeb chef and he just perished. And the knife store guy said that, like, the, the ones that he sold me were the last ones, and then the Japanese ones were. Were some absolute heavy hitters. Lighter handle than I wanted, but I mean, the blade.
Ron
Yeah, the blades. Amazing. The problem is the Japanese knives take a lot of maintenance. I heard.
Francis
I know that's what I was told. I'm worried about that. But if I have to take care of these, they. I mean, they cost what those shoes cost. They're high end.
Ron
Oh, I believe it.
Harry
They're high.
Ron
Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. That will be my next obsession.
Francis
Nice blade.
Ron
Well, now that you've bought some, I have to steal.
Francis
You have to have better ones. Yeah, but come get.
Ron
No, no, Better ones. Just of. Of your league. I want to be in your league.
Francis
Yeah. I can't have better knives than, you know.
Ron
You can have better knives.
Francis
Better equally good.
Ron
You could have them. I just. I would have to not know about it.
Francis
You got to get a hand on this knife. You got to dice some cukes with.
Ron
A hand on knife. Yeah, yeah.
Harry
What have you cut up?
Francis
Red peppers, onions, garlic, potatoes, and all.
Harry
Of those you cut with, like, a spoon. So give me something good.
Ron
What are you talking about? Can't cut those things with a fucking spoon.
Harry
Red pepper.
Ron
So that.
Harry
With your hands.
Ron
That says, like, sometimes you say things that just make. Would make a normal person think you're an alien. Remember when you were like, dude, you asked for coffee for Christmas. Why don't you just go buy some at cvs?
Francis
That was crazy.
Ron
Who buys coffee?
Harry
It's CVS over that.
Ron
Me.
Harry
I do.
Ron
Was that about.
Harry
Dude, K cups.
Ron
God, man, New York. Some of the best coffee in the world is here.
Harry
I'm not a big coffee guy, clearly.
Ron
I know.
Harry
I won't be, unfortunately. Unless you can start. Because that is that espresso machine. Make zero sugar energy. I'll try get some zero sugar energy pumping out of that thing and I'll.
Ron
Pull through, buy a carbon carbonator, and bush a gallon of gasoline. Fucking fizz it up for you.
Harry
I've been hitting the Phoenixes pretty hard. I won't lie.
Francis
They're so damn good.
Harry
You might notice there's a stack in my workspace.
Ron
That's good. Yeah, I like to see.
Francis
I saw you leaving the office, filling up a hockey bag with Phoenixes on your way.
Harry
I'll be honest. I was like, part of me. I wish that I replied to that email and asked for some. They said. They said they would stock your house with them if you wanted.
Francis
Yeah, you can get a pallet. He'll pull up with a pallet of Phoenix.
Ron
Okay. Speaking of hockey bag, I went back and watched more of heated rivalry. Of course I'm going to be honest with you. And it got better. I now am going to endorse the show more than I did in our most recent episode, for which I'm sure at this point I've been pilloried, but it was. I missed the second and the third episode, and I jumped right into the fourth.
Francis
That's insane.
Harry
Why?
Ron
I'm. I'm watching it with someone, so I'm on their track.
Harry
I see. I see. And you got to catch up.
Ron
I just came in and they were halfway through that episode, and I Jumped in and they explained to me what was going on. And then I'm watching with this dude. I'm. So I should probably clarify.
Francis
But anyway, explains the shirt from.
Ron
This is his second time through, so he doesn't really have to pay attention, which is why he blows me while we watch it. But no. Anyway, so I will say that it got better to the point where the character development and the acting and the writing is much more compelling than I wrote it off. I wrote it off after watching the first episode as pulp. It's trash. And now I actually have been quite impressed by what's going on.
Francis
It could be a Harry Potter situation where in like, the first Harry Potter movie, the kids aren't good at acting by like four by seven.
Harry
Yeah, they're not bad.
Francis
They're eating on stage.
Ron
And what I'll say, too, is that, you know, it's just a love story that, you know, we're so used to seeing love stories between a man and a woman. And if you can just get past that and accept that it's between a man and a man, which. It's 2026 at this point. If you're not accustomed to seeing that, you must be living under cock.
Harry
Rock, Rock hard cock.
Ron
What am I saying? Bills are favored at Denver by a point and a half. That can't be.
Francis
Did you see on New Year's when, like, they're doing the kisses on SportsCenter and Scott Van Pelt was like, what are we. What are we seeing out here? Lots of love. Like, he's about to just be like, what are we doing here? But he realizes 2026 and the windows closed on gay bashing.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Such.
Ron
It's just a sort of a. There's that great line in Borat where he goes to do the driving instructor test and he greets him with the two kisses on the cheek or whatever.
Harry
Yeah, yeah.
Ron
And the guy goes, I'm not accustomed to that, but that's okay. I think that's the general attitude. It's like, yeah, it's not what I'm used to seeing, but that's okay.
Francis
Quick sidebar while we're on Borat.
Ron
The.
Francis
A very famous Kazakh actor died the other day. And I saw a bunch of tweets being like, fuck Sacha Baron Cohen. Like, this guy was great. Fuck Sacha Baron Cohen.
Harry
Really?
Francis
And I don't know if that. He just made Kazakhstan look clownish. But I didn't realize that there was a sect of the Kazakhs that hate Sacha Baron Cohen for what he did.
Ron
To him, Borax. I had heard that, I had heard that he was not, they were not happy with his portrayal. And I also heard that a big part of that was because the scenes that are allegedly filmed in Kazakhstan, he didn't film there and that they were mad.
Francis
It's actually Turkmenistan Aeran, their heated rival.
Ron
Yeah, No, I, I, I think that they were annoyed about that. It's like. Well, he still would have.
Harry
Where were they filmed?
Ron
Like rapists and stuff? Yeah, probably la. Yeah. You know the Valley. Yeah.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
I was shocked to hear that. But I guess, I guess the globalization has really hit.
Harry
But on haters back home.
Francis
Yeah, it's nasty.
Harry
It's brutal.
Francis
The guy was hot and strong, though, the Kazak guy.
Harry
Oh, really? So he was like, it should have been me.
Francis
Yes. Yeah, probably something like that.
Harry
He probably does like his own Borat. And they're all like, this is, this is the actual guy.
Francis
Very nice.
Harry
You're way funnier.
Francis
He was jacked and like, he was like holding two women. He actually was one of the most jacked men I've ever seen.
Harry
Yeah, the Middle Eastern jacked is a different type of jacked.
Francis
Yeah, it's nice. It was like Tibetan jacked. He was like a mountain. Or he had like, lung capacity. Sharp.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
But back to your gay show.
Ron
No, I'm done with that.
Francis
Well, so. But you're just saying that it got way better.
Ron
It did. Yeah.
Harry
I mean, I believe you.
Ron
I'm at a point where I'll probably finish the show by myself. Yeah, I bought in.
Francis
You're most.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
But I also, I'll say I still haven't seen like a super gay scene.
Francis
Well, I heard episode five is where it gets, like, out of control. It turns into midnight in Paris or whatever. Yeah.
Harry
I haven't seen episode five is where it gets gross.
Ron
Maybe I've just been lucky to or what? Not lucky, but I've, I've just selectively missed the most kind of scarring scenes for someone that would be unused to that. But it hasn't been that, you know. Brutal.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Or shocking to me. I've been fine with it.
Harry
I think this might be a worse way of describing it.
Ron
Well, I don't know.
Harry
Hasn't been too brutal or shocking.
Ron
I don't know. I don't know how you guys, you're. I watched the clip. Your reactions to me admitting that I had watched the show were what made me realize that I was insane for admitting that.
Harry
No, no, I don't actually care. It's a, it's a very popular show. I'm not surprised.
Ron
But I guess maybe there aren't that many straight men.
Harry
I'm sure there's a good amount of straight men that are watching it.
Francis
What's the last show that was built around being gay? Not that I. Gay characters.
Ron
Will and Grace.
Francis
Modern Family. Will and Grace was awesome.
Ron
Will and Grace is awesome.
Francis
Were they hot mouthing on Will and Grace though?
Ron
I don't know what that means.
Francis
Kissing. Oh, was there men kissing on that show? I feel like it was like gay, but it was really just like.
Harry
I've literally. I've never even heard of this show. Like it's never even come up once.
Francis
I used to watch. I used to watch. I used to be locked in on Will and Grace.
Ron
Really?
Francis
Oh, shit. There's a new Will and Grace.
Ron
Will and Grace was as popular of a sitcom as how I met your mother.
Harry
Yeah, it's not ringing.
Ron
Years and years and years.
Francis
When it was Megan Mullally was like the female. She was hilarious. She's married to Ron sw. Really? Yeah, they're power couple. And then Deborah Messing, I think was the. And I had a light crush on Deborah Messing as a child when Will and Grace was coming out.
Ron
I never really watched it, but it did come on after another show. Was it on after Friends or something like that?
Francis
Probably, or. And one of them was real femme and the other one was like kind of mask presenting. There was the one guy who was like fucking gay as shit. But I don't know if they were ever. Were they? I don't know if there was anything like very sexual on it. It was more like sitcom style where someone would like skid through the door and be like, this is the problem I'm facing today.
Harry
Yeah, yeah.
Ron
It's like frasier. Kind of Ms. Frasier apartment show. Friends. That was. That was the Seinfeld. All those shows were based on that. It was the New York City apartments.
Harry
Yeah. And this was just the gay version it crushed though.
Francis
What is it called?
Harry
Will and Grace.
Francis
Will and Grace. Homophobe.
Harry
Sorry. Back in my day, it was Jill and Grace.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
That'd be two girls. Jill and Grace would be two girls.
Harry
Bible says true.
Francis
That's gayer.
Harry
That is gayer.
Francis
So what other gay shows have there been like? This is. I can't think of a lot of shows like obviously Humpback Mountain.
Harry
I'm only getting movies. I'm having a hard time thinking of shows.
Ron
There are. There are others. There was the one that was on HBO for a moment. Glee.
Francis
Glee's Gay. Gay adjacent. But it's not.
Ron
There was a gay character in that. There's the one that had definitely more than one Billy on the street. Billy Eichner was in one.
Francis
I think Euphoria had some gayness, for sure.
Harry
Well, that's like more. That's more just like gay undertones.
Francis
I mean, isn't there a. There's a trans person. Those are undertones, Father.
Harry
That's undertones.
Ron
There's also.
Francis
That was overt.
Ron
Yeah. The tones are pretty on the top.
Harry
They're under.
Ron
It's the harmony.
Francis
Straight.
Ron
I guess you can hear the melody of those tones. The father. There's a flashback scene where he goes to a gay bar and is, you know, dancing with this. His. His high school buddy. And they end up making out and stuff.
Harry
Classic.
Ron
But then he finds out that he got his high school girlfriend pregnant.
Harry
Brutal.
Ron
His whole life is derailed.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
From being the happiest gay dude of all time.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
To be trapped into a fatherhood life.
Ron
He's secretly one of the best characters on that show.
Francis
Now he just has to go to baseball practice.
Harry
I know. Brutal throw.
Francis
Batting. Batting practice.
Ron
Brutal.
Harry
It's got to be tough as a.
Francis
Gay dude learning throwing motion.
Harry
Yeah. With your son learning the throwing motion. You're both learning at the same time, watching YouTube tutorials.
Francis
The son's putting his arms around the dad to show him how to swing him back.
Ron
Are you sure you're not left handed? You keep throwing like. It's like you're throwing it with your off hand. Just try it with the other hand. No, even worse. My God.
Francis
Oh, God. Yeah, but. So maybe that's why the show is so groundbreaking. That there hasn't just been stuff about. Is it about hockey or is it about being gay.
Ron
There? I mean, hockey is the canvas upon which they build the story. And it spans over the course of over 10 years, at least.
Harry
Oh, wow.
Francis
Really? If you guys were gay, what type of athlete would you go for?
Ron
Good question. Good question.
Francis
I guess I could say as a straight person, what kind of athletes would you be into? But it's more interesting. If you were gay, what kind of athlete would you go for? Because a lot of people think hockey is the hottest.
Ron
No, I wouldn't go for a hockey player. I would go for probably football or soccer. Probably soccer.
Harry
Football.
Francis
Football, I feel like has a lot of domestic violence. Football or football? Oh, yeah, football. That's. That's nice.
Ron
American football. But now that I think about it, soccer.
Harry
But if you were in a gay.
Ron
Relationship in American football, I'm sorry.
Harry
If you're in a gay relationship in American football, like, it's not like you're gonna be, like, on the sideline with, like, the wives of the team. You're hiding in a hotel room waiting for your guy to finish up the game like that. That wouldn't be like a public thing.
Francis
Just gooning to red zone.
Harry
Yeah. It's not like you're nine hours straight.
Francis
Of commercial free football.
Harry
Yeah. It's not like you're gonna be on the sideline with Cardi B and. And Michael.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
Not yet. Not yet.
Harry
Not yet. Maybe in like a decade.
Francis
But there's more male cheerleaders.
Ron
True.
Francis
Like the Eagles game, there was like, multiple cheerleaders.
Harry
I'm not surprised.
Ron
There's that. There was that guy on the Raiders who was out, Carl something.
Francis
Nassib?
Ron
Yeah.
Harry
Oh, I thought you were talking about the dude that got cut in the off season. No, I don't think he was gay.
Francis
No, he. He definitely. Christian Wilkinson.
Ron
He made the. The whole thing about that and him and got cut. But Carl Nassib just quietly, he was like, I'm gay. No big deal. And then everyone moved on.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Now, I can't speak for the locker room.
Francis
No, wasn't there. Wasn't there. I thought there was an instance of Carl Nassib. I don't forget where we talked about this. I don't think it was on here. But Carl Nassib, like, called someone before he came out. He called someone on the field the f slur. And they're like, come on, is that true? They're like, come on. We don't say that.
Harry
That's crazy.
Ron
Well, then I'd like to take this moment to tell you that I actually am allowed to say of the only people on this field that I can say, I can say it.
Francis
Yeah. But the dude on the Patriots, Christian Wilkinson, I don't know if you guys ever saw when he was on Clemson and they won the national championship, he fucking does a high leg kick, grabs it, and then falls into a split and starts twerk. I gotta find this video. It's like, well, fucking duh.
Harry
You don't.
Francis
You don't. Like, you're not just born knowing how to do that.
Ron
Christian Wilkinson. Yeah, and it's Christian Wilkinson out.
Harry
He's the one that got cut from the Raiders, right?
Ron
No.
Francis
Yes, he is. He's the one that this season got caught. Cut from the Raiders.
Harry
He was kissing dudes on the list.
Francis
Maybe they said he kissed someone on the forehead or something.
Harry
On the forehead.
Francis
Allegedly. But then nobody else signed him. Who's the guy he might have been finger popping? You sent it.
Ron
Who's the guy that you were talking about?
Harry
That's who I was talking about.
Ron
No, but a couple years ago, the black guy.
Harry
I gotta see this. That's crazy.
Ron
That was weirdly less gay than I thought.
Harry
It was less gay than I thought.
Francis
Really?
Ron
Because he.
Harry
Because he didn't really get the split.
Ron
I thought it would be more like cheerleader esque.
Francis
No, he nailed it.
Harry
I'm with Francis. I'm with Francis.
Francis
You said not gay on.
Harry
That's not gay. Not gay. That Sky's having fun.
Ron
Yeah, that's great. That's. We just won.
Francis
No, but in front of the whole team.
Harry
Not gay. Not gay. If he went. If that split was a little bit more defined, I would have said he's 320 pounds, but it was like his legs are like. They're like. You can tell it hurt a little bit, you know?
Ron
I completely agree.
Harry
Like, he got to.
Ron
He popped his.
Francis
Afterwards.
Harry
He was like, that was the last.
Ron
Game of the season. I'm gonna need some rehab in the IR from popping.
Harry
Yeah. I thought it was one of those ones where he just, you know, jumped and landed.
Ron
He fell into it.
Francis
Have you seen the dude? Zesty Sturdy or whatever his name is? I don't think he goes on. He went on. Could have been records. The Drew Ski Stream. But he gets like. He gets sturdy, like New York style, but is like the fucking gayest.
Harry
Oh, maybe I have seen him.
Francis
He's so funny.
Ron
I don't know what any of that meant. That Drew Ski Sturdy. What does that mean?
Francis
Tyler, can you find that one?
Harry
Maybe Zesty Sturdy.
Francis
Zesty Sturdy.
Ron
What does get sturdy mean?
Harry
It's like in New York, it's like.
Francis
Like the pop. Like how people dance to, like, pop smoke music. It's like type of. Type of dancing.
Harry
Yeah, it's like the. What's it called?
Ron
What's that one? What is that?
Harry
What's that one? You know what I'm doing.
Francis
What was it? Do it again. One more time.
Harry
The gritty. It's like the gritty. The gritty is like a version of getting sturdy.
Francis
No, gritty is like Louisiana. Sturdy is like a New York thing.
Harry
But when they're getting sturdy in New York, they're doing a little bit of a gritty.
Ron
Is it like crumping?
Francis
Yeah, I like crumping.
Harry
It's exactly like that.
Ron
It's like crumping.
Francis
Is that Zesty sturdy?
Ron
No.
Francis
Oh, this is just getting sturdy. This is just a tutorial on.
Ron
Oh, wow. Cool. That is cool. That's a little bit like Christian Wilkinson.
Harry
What's up, guys? Today we're talking about how to get sturdy. First thing you're going to need is a massive empty room.
Francis
What's the word? Buzzing.
Ron
I will say. I will say that my only issue with this. I love the auditions for Drew Ski, but the problem I have is that he. A lot of them are just people he hired to come try out comedians. Well, he's revealed. That's awesome.
Francis
It's so gay.
Harry
Did you guys see that?
Ron
Did you see the one. Did you see the one where his bodyguards started to carry the guy out and, like, rough him up? And she was like, wait, hang on, that's one of my guys. That's a comedian.
Harry
Oh, really?
Ron
And, like, tried to talk them off, which in itself is very funny. That he didn't warn his crew.
Harry
Security.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
That this was one of his plans.
Harry
That megachurch video that he did is insane. Did you see that?
Ron
I only saw the. The COVID of it.
Harry
It is crazy.
Francis
I only saw the COVID as well. I haven't really watched it.
Harry
Yeah, it's so good.
Ron
What's the. Who's the old. The running back for the Seahawks, Marshawn Lynch. Yeah. You know what I was thinking today on my way in? Was that the sweater that I wore in the last episode. That was a mistake. Um, and I'm really not happy about it. I really regret it. And I'll tell you, I walked out. Out of the studio because you guys were kind enough to not really say that much.
Harry
I'll be honest. It didn't look like that in person.
Ron
Yeah, it looks. It looks really bad.
Harry
In hindsight, the camera definitely highlights it. But when I was looking at you, I was like, I couldn't tell.
Ron
I look like I'm going to some club called Sweat.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Or Splash. Or Pulse. Yes.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Throb.
Francis
Yeah, Throb.
Ron
Vascularity. Yeah.
Francis
Hard. And there were people in the office that were making fun of.
Ron
That's the biggest problem.
Francis
That had no business making fun of him.
Ron
Well, this is my point is, you know when you get mocked by the content floor. Now, with a couple of exceptions, I'll say to. Not to chicks in the office. Kelly, maybe, whatever. But. But everyone down there dresses like they are fucking out of work.
Francis
Like everything was free.
Ron
Like, they are really just raiding that donation bin we have, and they're like, don't throw out that T shirt that was gifted, you know, from the coffee store or whatever. I'll wear that. That's new.
Francis
It was a lot of people with elastic around their ankles making fun of you.
Ron
Yeah, yeah. And they were mocking me. And like, Robbie Fox pulled up a picture of Ed Hardy, man wrestler, not the shirt maker.
Harry
Sting on you. Yeah. They were really photos.
Ron
Yeah, it was really bad.
Francis
No, that was a feeding frenzy, really.
Ron
Eye opening.
Francis
There was blood in the water. And they were gay.
Ron
Pat, who is the worst dressed gay man I've ever met, was like, I would never. And. And I'll tell you something, I thought of the Marshawn lynch line because, you know, I've been throwing myself out there, a lot of clothing, like, take some risks.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
And they're not. And I said to myself on the way in, I said, I'm going to get God, but I'm going to get mine more than I get got, though. Which is his famous quote.
Harry
Of course I remember.
Ron
Do you remember that?
Francis
So what did he say again?
Ron
He said, I'm going to get God, but I'm going to get mine more than I get got, though, though.
Francis
I think where you put the.
Ron
He said it differently. He said it in a way that didn't sound so second language.
Francis
He kind of does have a second language quality to his speech.
Harry
The goat Marshawn.
Francis
Like, he's struggling to read when he's just saying his thoughts out loud.
Ron
I'm gonna get mine, Mom. Go get mine. More than I get got, though.
Francis
That's good.
Harry
That's the way he said he was in that movie. He was in that movie with Rachel. Sanaa. What was it? The one that she made? Bottoms. Yeah. He was very funny in that, dude.
Ron
You know, the industry kind of tried to make him a funny guy.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
I never bought it.
Harry
He was pretty funny in that.
Ron
I'm happy to hear that. They were doing stuff with him and Conan playing video games. It never really landed for me.
Francis
Yeah, well, they're trying to, like, just pair him up. They're trying to make him, like, goofy by putting him with, like, an articulate white guy. White guy.
Harry
Yeah. They're like, look at this jacked black dude next to this, where it's like, he's like.
Francis
He's like black guy funny. Like, he'd be funny in a room full of black guys. Like, you don't have to, like, fish out of water him for him. For him to be funny.
Ron
Yeah, they really did try to do that.
Francis
But he's like an Oakland. He's like an Oakland. And they're like, oh, he. He eats Skittles. Isn't that funny. Like. Oh, Skittles.
Harry
Yeah, I eat Skittles. You're not alone. Marshawn.
Francis
Yeah, exactly. I stand with Marshawn, man.
Harry
They mash the two Skittles together.
Ron
Do I?
Harry
Classic.
Ron
Sometimes I'll take a whole handful and just gobble it all together.
Harry
Actually, I feel like I actually have seen you do that.
Ron
Yeah.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
Do you think that that's deranged?
Harry
No, I don't.
Ron
Dude. Skittles. There was a. Some. Some dietary thing popped up that I saw where they evaluated the nutritional value of 20 different types of foods.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
And they said that the single food that they came up with that was the absolute worst for you, more than anything else, was Skittles.
Harry
Really?
Ron
Yeah.
Harry
That's surprising.
Ron
And they've added other candies and things like that. That. That was the per. You know, gram or whatever.
Harry
That's interesting, because I wonder when. When was that? Probably not that recent.
Ron
No, I think it was quite. What do you think they've added?
Harry
Well, I think that Celery formula. No, I'm just wondering because, like, Skittles. I feel like when I was younger, like, that was, like, my go to. Because that was like, this is the good sour. Like, but we didn't.
Ron
We didn't know any better. That's not. That's not.
Harry
No. But I mean, now the. That I eat is. It's got to be worse. Like, the candy that they're making now. Like, I would. I would consider Skittles to be, like, on the healthier side.
Ron
I don't think so, man.
Harry
Dude, the. That I'm eating is literally their formula.
Ron
They haven't changed their formula, but.
Francis
And Skittles is the densest goop. Like, everything is less dense goop.
Harry
It is dense.
Francis
Like a sour patch, kid.
Ron
My mouth is watering. Filled with fluid.
Harry
Like, I just have a. I just can't believe that Skittles are worse for you than, like, Jolly Rancher chews.
Ron
Yeah, they are. It's the. I almost think it's the granularity of a Skittle.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Where that just, to me feels like a tiny pod filled with absolute sugar.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
I would never. I'm never seeking out a Skittle.
Ron
I went through a Skittle phase, and then I thought, time to grow up. You can't be eating these as a snack.
Harry
Definitely not.
Ron
No.
Harry
I mean, I'm not, like, going to the store like, oh, shit, I got to go get some Skittles. Let me get out of here. I go through your shopping list again.
Ron
I became obsessed with the purple pack.
Harry
I don't know if. Is that the tropical one?
Ron
Blue one is the tropical.
Harry
That one even sucked.
Ron
Yeah, that was bad because they had a banana.
Harry
Yeah. Nasty.
Ron
But the purple one was just.
Harry
Oh, you know what was really good? I don't even know if they still make them. They had ones that you would put. You'd throw them in and they would like fizzle a little bit.
Ron
Never. I'm not a fizzle guy.
Harry
See, I like all of the gizmos and gadgets.
Ron
Like I need everything but fizz for me. I never liked pop rocks. I never liked Coca Cola flavored candy.
Harry
You don't like the gadget all. I'll take it all. I wonder if I want it fucking. I want there to be liquid on the inside.
Ron
Give me a refrigerated Reese's Spicy on.
Harry
The outside without a whole bunch of.
Ron
Defecate in the middle.
Francis
That's clean. The I heard and this could be true. Correct me if I'm wrong, fellas, but I heard that M&Ms. Were invented because snipers needed a candy that they could eat it in war times that weren't going to be sticky. Is that true?
Ron
This is one of those weird phenomena where phenomenon. No, it is phenomena phenomenons. Where. Where what? You saying that has made me think I've heard that before, but I don't have any idea if I've never heard that.
Harry
I thought that M M's were like the original candy and I think they.
Francis
Were like for snipers.
Harry
What were the candies prior to that that were like sticky as hell, Like Good and Plenty or like Baby Ruth's.
Ron
Good and Plenty came before.
Francis
Imagine eating a Baby Ruth bar while you're trying to snipe.
Harry
Yeah, that would be tough.
Ron
Good and Plenty was a candy that actually was used to tamp rifles in the Civil War. They're like actually wait a minute. These taste okay.
Francis
Good with the soot on the outside.
Harry
Most candy was actually made for self defense purposes in World War II.
Francis
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Ron
Wait, what about the. Are you just predicting that that's the last four?
Harry
Wow, you're going to be wrong, way off.
Ron
You said Seahawks, Texans, Broncos and who?
Francis
Rams?
Ron
I don't know why I'm not like I'm thinking the fucking Texans can win the super bowl with their defense there.
Francis
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Harry
That's if they got through Drake May or not.
Ron
I wonder who the who's the favorite right now?
Harry
The Texans?
Francis
No, no, it's the Seahawks. Seahawks and Rams.
Harry
The Seahawks defense is really good, too. It's not as good as the Texans, but it's good.
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Ron
Yeah, I don't like nougat.
Francis
Who's it for? Is it for old people?
Ron
Yeah man.
Francis
Is it? Yeah, I know like Werther's Originals are classically for old people but I like that. I think they're good. But a nougat, that's nasty.
Ron
That's gross for no one. That's pretty gross.
Francis
You guys are going to Orlando?
Ron
Yes, we are.
Harry
Yep.
Ron
Did you see if you got upgraded?
Harry
Yeah, I don't think I did because I don't think I've checked in.
Ron
You're in 37C 37A I think. Wow.
Harry
Or F maybe I don't know.
Ron
That is really far back.
Harry
I haven't even been on a plane that has that many rows in a while.
Ron
That sucks, dude. I'm sorry to hear.
Harry
It's all good. I don't mind.
Francis
What are you doing there?
Ron
Are you giving me that?
Harry
What time is the flight?
Ron
I don't want it. I just was wondering if you were trying to sneak me something there.
Harry
What's that? Candy Sh.
Ron
Ginger chews.
Harry
Ginger chews?
Ron
Gingers. I like those.
Harry
Nasty. It'll settle your stuff for the tummy though.
Francis
Yeah, exactly. What do you mean nasty?
Harry
Not my thing.
Francis
It's a palliative, as my boy Francis would say.
Ron
Tell you what, hairball. You better get used to snacks of that ilk. Ilk. Because that's the basket they're gonna. That's what's gonna be left when they on 37A. Sir, all we have are these ginger chews. But we noticed you're a little nauseous because you're sitting next to the lavatory.
Francis
Someone traded in these ginger chews for some of the candy in there. They put the ginger chews in the basket. Are you in? Are you in 37?
Ron
I don't know exactly where I am yet. I got upgraded to premium economy, but I have not yet seen. I'm hoping for, you know, the big push. The big push. What.
Harry
What time is that flight?
Ron
5:55 out of LaGuardia. PM that's brutal.
Francis
On Sunday.
Ron
Right in the middle. Right at the end of the Patriots game.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
You're flying during the Patriots game?
Harry
No, I might have to push that back.
Francis
Fraud alert. Fraud fan.
Harry
We're not filming until. Until Monday, right? Yeah, might have to bomb on.
Ron
We could go later. But we.
Francis
7Amt time though.
Ron
The one after that would get us in at 10:30pm and you guys have.
Francis
To get a dinner while you're down there.
Harry
Is that the plan?
Francis
That Orlando culinary scene I heard is sublime.
Ron
Oh my God. We're staying in an A loft.
Harry
Really?
Ron
They're okay.
Harry
I'm not familiar.
Ron
You never stated in an A loft. No, I don't think I've been assigned to stay in them on road weekends from. From clubs.
Harry
No, I don't think I've ever been in one.
Ron
San Diego puts us. Put us in an A lock.
Harry
Oh, really? Solid. That was a solid one.
Ron
You have stayed in one.
Harry
If we were in San Francisco at San Diego. You said Diego. No, not me because I haven't done that club.
Francis
That was Brandon. That was definitely Brandon.
Harry
Yeah, no, a loft for me, unfortunately.
Francis
Where are you staying? Oh, you're staying in the 4C.
Harry
They got me. They got me on the course tent.
Ron
Sting in the Caddy shack.
Francis
Yeah, yeah.
Harry
Just sleep here. Tea times early enough. It's only a couple hours outside.
Francis
I heard the. Yeah, I heard you're staying at the Polynesian resort at Disney World in Epcot. Yeah. The Magic Kingdom Castle.
Ron
By the way, the Bills are favored by a point and a half at Denver.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
And I think that is outrageous.
Harry
Oh, I don't.
Ron
I'm betting Denver all day.
Harry
Oh, really?
Francis
Well, this will already be out, Drew.
Ron
Great. I stand on business, as Marshawn lynch would say, though.
Harry
I stand on business, though.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Stand on business, though. That'll be nice to be down in Orlando. I like the downtown.
Ron
Do you? Oh, yeah.
Harry
That's a great.
Ron
I don't know a whole lot about Orlando, man.
Francis
I heard the 4C. I heard it. The pro family travel move. Because obviously I'm looking into this as you stay at the Four Seasons in Orlando if you're going to Disney World.
Ron
That makes sense.
Harry
Ship on in for Disney.
Ron
I would say 99.9 of the people who visit Disney World cannot afford the Four Seasons season.
Francis
I think that's got to be the differentiator.
Ron
Yeah. So therefore, I would guess that the Four Seasons is probably not that expensive.
Francis
I heard it's.
Harry
I heard it's pricey.
Francis
I heard it's a nice family resort. Like a top tier family resort.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
How old do you think I could take my boys to Disney World? And Francis, would you like to come?
Ron
I'm coming. And thank you. And I think we should probably wait until they're what, four?
Harry
Four is almost too old.
Francis
Three. Two is too young. It's got to be three then.
Ron
This is how I remember. I remember going to Disney World when I was a kid with my family. And this is how I know we weren't always wealthy. I remember very distinctly the room that we had.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
In our hotel.
Francis
Where was it? Grand Floridian.
Ron
I don't know what it was, but the bed was a Murphy bed. I'd never seen that before. And I remember my parents pulling it down out of the wall and they were a little upset that that were. There were cigarette burns in the bedding.
Francis
That's so insane.
Ron
That's where we stayed, all four of us when we went to Disney World.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
That's fucking nuts. Moms used to love to. To find something wrong with the hotel room.
Ron
Really?
Harry
I feel like dad.
Francis
Huh.
Harry
My dad used to get in like brawls with the hotel Staff for like an hour. Like we would get to the hotel and you just go straight to the lobby and sit down because you're like, there's no way. We're just checking in and going to the room. That hasn't happened once. Instead it's my dad just like facing off with the guy working the desk for an hour and a half.
Francis
My mom still talks about a face off she had in turns and Caicos with somebody. She faced off about the room that we had. She literally has brought it up twice in the last calendar year about how she like, yeah, got us upgraded room. It wasn't good enough. I said, we're not staying here.
Harry
That's what my mom. My parents would always do that. And I would always be like, why does it matter? Like, who gives a fuck?
Francis
Or why'd you book it? Why did you book this if it's not good enough for you?
Harry
Yeah, they'd be like, well, they said there was going to be a view and there's no view. Yeah, you'll understand when you're older. You spend a lot of money on things like this.
Francis
We came to New York for my grandmom's funeral and we went to a hotel and there was cigarette burns in one of the chairs. And so we all had to pack our things and go to a different hotel. It was like a multi room suite.
Ron
We ate it. When we were a family, this is what we dealt with. We accepted that that was the way things were. Which is why now you cannot handle flying coach and I can.
Harry
Not even close.
Ron
I was born in the darkness. I was born among. I was raised among cigarette burned sheets at Disney. Sheets with holes in them.
Harry
When I was.
Francis
See what I'm saying? She's with holes.
Ron
I do sheets with holes, Harry.
Francis
And not the KKK kind.
Harry
No, no, not the eye holes.
Francis
Way different ones. Yeah, I gotta get down to Disney World, but you guys should stop by. I've been to Disney World twice as an adult. It's pretty nice.
Harry
I think I've only been or maybe I've been twice because I went one time when I was like older. I don't really remember.
Ron
I'm not gonna go to Disney World.
Harry
Yeah, I'm not a big Disney guy.
Francis
Gross.
Ron
I'd rather go to Italy.
Harry
Well, why don't you go to.
Francis
We're gonna be in Orlando.
Ron
Oh, you mean this week?
Francis
Yeah, it's a business trip.
Ron
We're in and out. I don't spend any more time in Orlando than I have to. I don't have a Problem saying that because I don't think they have a comedy club there.
Harry
Can't you go to Italy in Disney?
Francis
You can.
Harry
I think I've been.
Francis
It's very nice. It's better than the real Italy.
Harry
It's way better.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Because you can get to Germany like that.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Did I ever tell you guys?
Harry
It's like literally the next door over.
Ron
We were. I think we were somewhere in Florida, probably close to Orlando. And I was in seventh grade and I had a girlfriend. Sheesh.
Harry
Damn ruthless.
Ron
And I was. I was young enough that I was embarrassed about it.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
But she was cute. She was a gymnast.
Harry
Really?
Ron
Yeah.
Harry
I think all girls in seventh grade are gymnasts.
Ron
She was good. She could do. She could. She could tumble on. On. On grass.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
She could do like seven back handsprings into a backflip.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
She's going somewhere.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Didn't go anywhere.
Francis
She probably just, like, grew to be 5 foot 2. And they're like, she's too big.
Ron
She was quite short, but I bought her as a gift because it was over Valentine's Day that I was down there, and I came back and I bought her as a gift a gigantic lollipop. One of those. The size of a Frisbee, of course.
Harry
Colorful, tough to travel with.
Ron
And she brought me. She bought me a wallet.
Harry
Wow.
Ron
Inside of which she put a photo of herself.
Harry
Wow.
Ron
Which.
Harry
Very mature.
Ron
Really made my lollipop look silly. Shit. Yeah. But years later, she was killed.
Harry
Oh, shit.
Ron
Swear to God. What? Yeah. Yeah.
Francis
I'm waiting for, like a punchline.
Ron
No, there's no punchline. She was. It was really strange. She was in Atlanta and she. She was a chef, and she was dating a chef, and they lived together and they were killed in their home with guns.
Francis
By whom?
Ron
I don't know. I don't know.
Francis
Sounds like that Austin Butler movie.
Ron
I never learned that. I never learned much about this story. I mean, you know, it didn't work out for us in seventh grade, so I'm trying not to laugh. Oh, my God. We didn't keep in touch after that because it ended.
Francis
I don't think I know this movie.
Harry
Is it a movie? I don't even know.
Francis
There's no movie.
Ron
This is a true fucking story.
Francis
It is a movie. Boy who Cried Wolf.
Ron
I almost want to tell you her name because it would. You could look up the news story. People will probably figure this out.
Francis
I'm racking my brain to see what.
Ron
Movie I'm not making. No word of a lie.
Harry
It's going to be Tough to find.
Ron
No word of a lie. And. And. And I never heard what. How that was resolved or why. And it was one of those things where I was like, did she fall into bad probably times? Why? Or was this just, like a freak, you know, robbery gone wrong or something like that?
Harry
How often does that really happen, that someone is robbed and then they're killed?
Ron
Probably more often than you'd think.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Yeah. That's what like, living in a bad area means. Yeah, that's what happens.
Francis
I don't think robbers want to kill, though.
Harry
No.
Francis
I feel like if you're.
Harry
If they just want.
Francis
If you have a propensity to kill, kill. Just become a killer.
Harry
Yeah, just kill.
Francis
Just be a killer. You don't have to do, like, the rob.
Harry
Well, I think once you kill, you're no longer a robber. Now you're just a killer.
Ron
Yeah, but this is why you.
Harry
You.
Ron
You're assuming that most robbers bring guns simply to threaten people into submission so they can safely take their stuff. I think that.
Harry
I don't think they want to.
Ron
I think there's a lot of crossover between robbers and killers.
Francis
Carjackers. I could see someone. If someone gets smart with their mouth.
Harry
Most robbers are. Are typically young. It's true.
Ron
Is that so?
Harry
Most like breaking? Yeah, most breaking. Usually like, people like their tennis. Yeah, it's usually they're like 18 to early 20s.
Ron
Yeah.
Harry
And.
Francis
And usually it's younger than 18. You don't wait till 18 to start robbing. I'm finally old enough to rob.
Harry
Yeah, that is true. So it'd be younger than 18. And then apparently it's also like a large percentage of the time, it's like someone that you know, like, in your neighborhood.
Ron
Yeah, yeah, I've heard that. I've heard that.
Francis
The case, the joint. Well, I'm sorry about your friends.
Ron
No, it was strange. I was her first kiss.
Francis
But she wasn't yours.
Ron
No way, Jose.
Harry
It's crazy.
Francis
That is fucking.
Ron
Not that she was long after mine, but. But, you know, I've been around.
Francis
What was the. How. How long ago was.
Harry
Was today this morning?
Ron
I'm gonna look that up. I'm gonna look it up.
Francis
I'm trying to be sensitive and not.
Ron
Oh, my phone's bricked up right now. I forgot to unbrick my phone. I can't look anything up. You can't even use Can't.
Harry
You can't go on safari. Oh, dude, that's not one of the ones that you can lock.
Francis
I had to.
Ron
I had to. That safari is a back way into every one of your apps. You can theoretically go on ebay and Etsy and Instagram. Ebay on. This is the problem. It's not even so much using my phone. It's spending money online. You can go online journal. Yeah.
Harry
You gotta have like. You might need, like to get put in like a Britney Spears situation.
Francis
Like a conservatorship.
Harry
Yeah. Someone just takes over.
Francis
I'll hold your phone.
Ron
Phone. Yeah. Yeah, I could hear.
Francis
I'll put out content about you.
Ron
I'd like that.
Francis
Francis is just secretly dancing and giving out clues to the comment sections, trying to escape from his conservatorship.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Wear blue. Next video if you're in trouble.
Ron
Francis hasn't blinked in 20 minutes. What's he telling us?
Francis
Poor gal.
Ron
No. Yeah.
Francis
Do you think?
Ron
I don't know. She must probably killed like. Like 10 years ago now. Yeah, I think she was in her mid-20s, early 20s.
Francis
You think the lollipop had anything to do with it?
Ron
No, I don't think so.
Harry
Apparently that's the only thing that was left behind was a full lollipop unlicked.
Francis
Or a melted lollipop that she got stabbed with. Just kidding.
Ron
No, I. I don't have a whole lot of connection to this, but it is a true story.
Francis
I mean, you were her first kiss. You have the most connections. You get three loves in your life and she was one of them.
Ron
I did. I was quite fond of her.
Francis
How did things break off?
Ron
I don't know. You know, you just date. Like you go out with a new girl. The next week you're going out with someone else through you break.
Harry
Sounds like someone on the fast crowd.
Ron
I am. You would. We would break up on AOL instant messenger and then you'd break up so that you could. Could go out with someone else.
Francis
You give a reason on the breakup. Why'd you break up with her?
Ron
I was like, I feel like you're heading in the wrong direction.
Francis
I feel like you can't cook.
Ron
You're. Yeah. You're like, I'll show. Going down a dark path. I just sense you're probably gonna move to Atlanta at some point.
Harry
I can't go to Atlanta from Maine.
Francis
I don't really like rap that much. I can't go to Atlanta, though. I do like Ludacris, Gucci and outcast Gucci.
Ron
Big then Gucci mane.
Harry
Or I guess 10 years ago.
Ron
He wasn't out. No. Well, growing up. Up. What. What time. What part of the story are you putting us in here?
Harry
I don't really Know, I don't know.
Ron
Because we were talking about seventh grade. Well. Which was probably the peak of my powers. Things only went down from there.
Harry
Was Gucci. When was Gucci the biggest? Because I knew Gucci when he went to jail.
Ron
You knew him like 2004.
Francis
Ish. Was a big Gucci main year.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
We had Yard Fest, spring of my freshman year in college, and Wale opened for Kid Cudi and someone in the crowd had a free Gucci mane sign up. And Wally started laughing. Why? He's like, I didn't expect to see someone with a free Gucci mane sign at the Harvard concert.
Harry
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Ron
It was some white kid. You know, it's like nothing more.
Francis
Yeah. Better than ironically liking rap or ironically saying free Gucci mane. Like, do you think they really meant free? They really wanted free Gucci mane?
Ron
I think that that person was taking the piss.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
A little bit.
Harry
Gucci.
Francis
Very funny.
Harry
Gucci had a troubled past. You know Gucci and Waka Flocka are cousins. Yeah, of course.
Ron
I did know.
Harry
It's a common fact. Should have known, you boys.
Francis
I don't think I knew that.
Harry
And not. And not cousins. They're cousins.
Francis
What do you mean?
Harry
You know what I mean. They're related by blood. By blood.
Ron
What would the other meaning have found?
Harry
That's how the dude says it in the. In the Vice documentary. There's like a Vice documentary about Gucci mane and he's like. A lot of people don't know that Gucci Mane and Walk a Flock of Flame are cousins and not cousins. Really. Cousins to the last.
Ron
The last two minutes have just been. You regurgitating a bit. A documentary as though it was a bit.
Harry
No.
Ron
You just took that. What you said word for word.
Harry
Oh, that they're not cousins.
Ron
You're like. A lot of people don't know this.
Harry
Yes. Yeah. Spot on. You nailed it.
Ron
Actually. Pretty funny. To quote a documentary. It's a great. To make it a bit.
Harry
You guys should watch that doc. There's one on.
Ron
I will. I'm compelled.
Harry
It's super good. There's one on Gucci Mane and then there's one on Chief Keef as well. The Chief Keef one's pretty good. The Chief Keef one's pretty funny because he's, like, dumb. Yeah. Autistic.
Ron
Gucci mane has an ice cream cone on his face. He had a big beef with Meek Mill Gucci. Yeah.
Harry
Did he?
Ron
He had a beef with someone who made fun of the fact that he had an ice cream cone on his face.
Francis
I mean, it is pretty, but he's, he's so tough that it's like, yeah, if you weren't tough, you couldn't have an ice cream cone on your face.
Ron
I saw him at Game 6 of the NBA Finals. Or actually was this, was this jacked.
Harry
Gucci or fat Gucci?
Ron
He looked pretty good post prison.
Harry
He's ripped.
Ron
He had a bracelet on that had more diamonds and was more brilliant than anything I'd ever seen in terms of jewelry.
Francis
And you went to Harvard.
Ron
But he was, he was in the second row of courtside, which felt like a slap in the face a little bit.
Francis
Yeah, well, just like two fewer diamonds and you're in the first row.
Ron
You know who was courtside? Courtside was Waka Flocka, G. Eazy because it was Celtics against the.
Harry
That feels racist Warriors. How are you going to throw G. Eazy on in front row but not Gucci?
Ron
Well, I think G. Eazy had put out more relevant music that made more money at that moment than Gucci mane. My favorite Gucci Mane song is Met Gala Fitter to me. I got the ice on the wrist. You know, that's my favorite Gucci.
Harry
I like, I, I, I, I liked his, the album that he put out after he went to jail. When he got back, when he got back from prison, that was.
Francis
You look like Gucci mane a little bit.
Harry
You got a little Gucci in you.
Ron
No one's ever said that. Yeah.
Francis
Wait, put ice cream cone tattoo. Yeah, just hold up an ice cream cone, see if you really look like him. He's probably pretty handsome Gucci. Yeah, he's a handsome guy.
Harry
Definitely.
Francis
Don't you think? Powerful too.
Harry
Apparently he killed a prostitute.
Ron
If I were to get ice cream tattooed on my face.
Harry
It'S true.
Francis
Conversation so ridiculous.
Ron
I'd get a pint of, of dairy free vegan Van Leeuwens ice cream.
Francis
Or like the Talenti had it on my face. The Talenti gelato.
Harry
I would get Ben and Jerry's, the Fallon one. And I would get the whole, I would get the whole label on my face.
Ron
The Tonight dough. Really?
Harry
Tonight though, you get that.
Ron
That sucks, man.
Francis
Anything with cookie dough is good.
Ron
I don't understand how that has become the Ben and Jerry's flavor that is the most ubiquitous. I don't get it.
Francis
I don't know.
Harry
Making a lot of money from that.
Ron
Yes.
Francis
Yeah. He's printing money.
Ron
Ben and Jerry's is everywhere.
Harry
Yeah, I know, but I mean, like, do you think he gets a, like a good chunk of that?
Ron
His face is on the fucking carton.
Harry
That's great. But no one's buying it because of him.
Francis
Doesn't matter.
Harry
You're buying it because more people are.
Ron
Buying that because of him than you'd think.
Harry
Maybe. I think they gave. I think he just got. He. He got the. He got the best flavor. He lucked out.
Ron
No, I mean Stephen Colbert has one as well.
Harry
No one's buying that, Lib.
Ron
I wouldn't think so.
Francis
I mean there's not a More and beanless vanilla.
Harry
Yeah, true. Ben and Jerry's is super lib Vermont.
Francis
Yeah, but didn't they break up because like one. One of them wasn't liberal enough for the other or something like that? Maybe I'm thinking of Tenacious D. You might be.
Ron
Might be thinking of Simon and Garfunkel. No, you're right, it is Tenacious D. Tenacity and Garfield.
Francis
Something happened with the Ben and Jerry's guys.
Harry
With Ben and Jerry?
Francis
Yeah. It's tough that these brothers are breaking up over a political ideology.
Harry
One of them moved to Atlanta with some girl from Maine like 10 years ago.
Ron
I feel bad. I mean I don't think anyone giggle through it. Only because I couldn't stop looking at his face. And he was. I couldn't.
Harry
Because I couldn't tell if he was real or not.
Ron
I couldn't stop. I mean it was. I know it's an abrupt left turn that I took.
Francis
Everybody's just like.
Ron
That is what happened.
Francis
Then what happened.
Ron
And it was an unbelievably short shocking thing.
Harry
No, it sounds. I would be shocked too.
Ron
That was probably the. The person in my life that I don't know. I guess romantically I was the most involved with who has been. Who has died.
Harry
Yeah, that would make sense.
Francis
And you're the kind of guy laughs at a funeral.
Ron
No, can't understand But I know that you soon will.
Francis
Is that the rest of that can't understand what I mean you soon will.
Ron
That's what it is.
Francis
I'm the kind of guy that wears my mind almost leave. I have a strip taking off my shirt.
Ron
It's been.
Francis
You don't know that song.
Ron
One week since you looked at me.
Francis
You don't know Chickadee China the Chinese chicken. Have a drumstick.
Ron
Rain starts clicking Watch the next files with the lights on.
Francis
That's early Gucci mane. Yeah.
Harry
No, I can't say I've heard that one.
Francis
Gucci Mane and Blues Traveler.
Ron
He actually used to spell it. M A I N E. Small town guy before he moved to Atlanta.
Harry
Before he stole your girl and moved to Atlanta.
Ron
Yeah, no, before he killed my girl in Atlanta.
Francis
Wait, didn't you say. What? Did he kill a prostitute?
Harry
Apparently. Yeah, that's what they say. They say that together. There's like. Apparently something happened or he had a prostitute. Yeah. And then he killed her. Yeah. I don't know. Buried. I think he buried her outside.
Francis
Jesus Christ. Yeah, burying someone is. Yeah, just cut him up and dissolve them, you know?
Harry
Yeah, exactly.
Francis
Burying is asking to get caught.
Harry
I know. A shallow grave.
Francis
Shallow grave is so crazy.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
You gotta bury him under someone else that died.
Harry
Yeah, that's a good idea.
Francis
So then the cops find the first one.
Harry
Yeah. Like, oh, there's nothing here.
Francis
It's like. No, no, no.
Harry
A deep breath.
Francis
Eight feet deep. No one thinks you go eight feet. That's where it stops.
Ron
I'm fairly sure the espresso machine I purchased can actually dissolve a body. Probably has a dual boiler system.
Harry
Oh, yeah.
Ron
And the cleaning tablets are said to go through bone like butter.
Francis
So if we ever hear Huey Lewis on the news blasting from Francis's apartment, we know that some poor hooker goes through like butter.
Harry
That's not good. I feel like that shouldn't be sold if anything. That goes through the bone like butter.
Ron
That's from Snatch.
Harry
Snatch through like butter.
Ron
He goes. They can go through bone like butter.
Francis
That's what he's talking about.
Ron
Like feeding the hogs. Yeah, he's feeding the people to the hogs.
Harry
These are. It sounds like, like, do your guys knives that you got, are they. Those go through. Bound like butter.
Francis
They're actually like. I don't even like looking at them. It's so scary to have around.
Ron
Does it have that? Does it have that? Sort of, sort of. It all comes down pattern on the blade. Is it almost striated or something?
Francis
I have one that. The last one I had is a bit dappled. These ones are less dappled.
Harry
Is there any cool design? Like, is there like a dragon on the big one or what are we talking?
Francis
I think so. I'll take some pictures and stuff.
Harry
There is.
Francis
I mean, there's Japanese characters. Characters.
Ron
Are you cooking so much that you have gotten into?
Harry
You got anime knives.
Francis
I'm cooking a bit.
Ron
That's awesome.
Harry
You have like Naruto on them.
Ron
By the way. For our next.
Harry
The Death Note logo on your steak.
Francis
Dragon Ball Z on my steak knife.
Harry
Yeah. These are real. They're Japanese.
Ron
They are.
Francis
This is ash from Pokemon. For our next one.
Ron
What? Steak off. I want to just have Harry and I want Us to just compete. Cooking a batch of rice, Something that simple. I want it to be that simple. Who can cook rice better?
Harry
I'll just bring a rice cooker.
Ron
I don't think you can do that.
Francis
You think it's cuz it's unfair or do you think he's unable?
Ron
You got to go the acoustic way.
Francis
What, on a stove top?
Harry
Yeah. I've never done that.
Francis
I made. I made rice on the stove yesterday.
Ron
I just made a bunch today.
Francis
I made some dirty rice last night.
Ron
What is that, Daddy?
Francis
Kind of has like a little Cajun spice to it.
Ron
Oh, that's awesome.
Francis
It's not quite jumbalaya. Some jumbo. Not quite a gumbo or jumbalayo, but it get the job done.
Harry
Are you good at cooking?
Francis
No.
Harry
Yeah, I didn't think so.
Ron
He's lying.
Harry
About the jambalaya?
Ron
No, about being good. He's definitely good at cooking? No, he's being the roan, humble guy who kind of does this. You are a Clark Kent figure.
Francis
Oh, yeah, you are. I'm actually Superman.
Ron
You hide, topple.
Harry
What's your top dish?
Francis
I don't have a top dish.
Harry
Exactly.
Ron
Yeah.
Harry
What can you. What are you best at cooking?
Francis
Nothing. I'm not that good.
Harry
Nothing?
Ron
Nothing.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
Ron knows that. Presenting himself as an everyman.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Instead of shows, you know, he's like.
Harry
I do a mean eggs Benedict.
Ron
Keeps him. Keeps him ahead. And then out of nowhere, he raps in his Lexus on the way to the Phil the Eagles game. And you're like, what in the absolute. When did you come up with that? When did you write that?
Francis
Yeah, that's old. It's just been in there.
Ron
Yes. Just. No, Just kicking around.
Francis
Just rattling around in the old. The old brain, the old think tank. But I am trying to cook more just because if you want to have the things that you want, like I can't go out to restaurants. Like my kids will just grab everything off the table. So it's like if I want the things I could get from a restaurant, like I need to be able to make that at home.
Ron
Will you be cooking for your boys a lot? Once. Once they're really eating.
Francis
They're eating now. They were eating salmon and butternut squash last night.
Ron
Jesus Christ.
Harry
Really?
Francis
Yeah. But then once.
Harry
How were the reactions?
Francis
The one is. One of them's. Wes will eat anything. Finn just like. He like shuddered.
Harry
Butternut squash at Juan.
Francis
Not even one.
Ron
Remind me which one my friend is.
Francis
Is Wes.
Ron
Wes is my friend. Yeah.
Francis
And he's like you. He'll Just he can put down like, he'll eat an entire butternut squash.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Soup to butternuts.
Harry
What are the serving sizes look like? I'm imagining like you, your wife and your kids sitting down and they. Everyone has like the equal serving sizes. Like a porterhouse just hammering down a cut of salmon.
Francis
They like a. Like a 14 ounce New York strip.
Ron
Yeah, those boys will go through bone like butter.
Francis
They're like a boning ribeye.
Ron
They.
Francis
The boning like, but I fed that.
Ron
Hooker to Ron's twins.
Francis
Elliot, Anything wrong?
Ron
Bad news. It happened again. Get him over here.
Francis
Send them over. Just chop them up. Fine.
Ron
Just remind me what the rate is now.
Francis
Yeah, they love it. I mean, they'll crush waffles. They like, you know, they eat a lot of. A lot of. Like that. It's nice to have. Just.
Harry
I didn't know kids that age ate, like, real food. I thought it was just like, you.
Francis
Have to get them started eating or else they'll wind up. They'll grow up to be like chicken nuggets.
Ron
Kids.
Harry
Yeah, that makes sense.
Francis
They like watermelon a lot, but, you know, we gotta just try them on some. They have the craziest kid kid food now. It's like they're just eating like puffs. Like, they're basically eating like cheese.
Harry
Cereal. Yeah, it's like cereal constantly.
Francis
It's nice. They just put some of that shit out.
Ron
What about baby food?
Francis
It's not as much. Baby food's that gross and they know.
Ron
It, you know, so the world has moved away from baby food.
Francis
It's still there. You could still buy it. But like, we bought like the beef paste baby food, and it's like, foul. It's just like a paste in a glass jar. Give it to him a little bit. Or like, there's a squeezy one.
Ron
I was thinking more like apple saucy.
Francis
Stuff they do, but I think that that's. That's the stuff that's really making them shudder. He's like, what the is this?
Ron
Oh, wow.
Harry
Where's the salmon?
Francis
Yeah, I need something Atlantic. I need something fresh.
Ron
Do they have teeth yet?
Harry
It sounds like they've got all of them.
Francis
One has six teeth and the other has two. Huh.
Harry
Tonight we're doing spaghetti and meatballs.
Ron
Actually.
Francis
Tonight we're gonna make the carbone spicy rigatoni.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
Penny. Al.
Harry
Vodka for the boys.
Francis
They like a little kick to it, though.
Ron
It's Wes's birthday, so. Well, it's both of their birthday.
Harry
Likes Indian. We're doing vindaloo.
Ron
Medium spice.
Francis
They're out of bay leaf, so, know. Looking for a substitute.
Harry
Wes loves vindaloo.
Ron
It's gonna be a four on the Scoville scale.
Francis
It is nice to get. To get Indian food or to. Or like, make some. Something with like, a sauce or something like that. Because, like, they. They'll go to town on. On the sauce. Yeah, they're just crushing a sauce lasagna this past. Some homemade lasagna. They're just crushing the sauce.
Ron
So they're not doing breast milk at all anymore.
Francis
They're on a. For a regular. A formula.
Ron
Right. Okay.
Francis
A formula, I say.
Harry
Right.
Ron
Like that. I don't.
Francis
I don't know. Yeah, they're on no explode.
Ron
Yeah.
Harry
You got them on creatine yet?
Francis
Yeah, they're on Jack 3D, one part Phoenix, two parts. I want them growing. Your dad's making you protein. Shakespeare saw a clip of Brendan Schaub saying that.
Harry
Really?
Francis
Brendan Schaub said that he was driving with his kid and that. He said he told his kid. He was like, you know, one day I'm gonna die, and you're gonna be sad. He said his kids started crying. He's like, are the other kids dads making them protein shakes? This is all in one clip? In a very short clip. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I guess I gotta let him know. I gotta. I guess I gotta let them know about mortality.
Harry
Early dropping the kids off at school, and you got to tell the teacher, like, you just got to shake the bottle every 30 minutes so the protein will stick to the bottom.
Francis
He doesn't like it stirred. He likes it shaking and frothy.
Harry
You got one of those spring balls in your kids drink?
Ron
Declump.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
You can stir enough where you don't need the spring ball.
Harry
The spring ball works.
Francis
I don't know. I've gotten clumps in my spring ball.
Harry
You can't. You can get clumps in the spring ball, but I feel like the clumps, they stick to the spring ball. Ball, making it so that you don't.
Ron
Get a lot of clocks. You guys aren't shaking hard enough.
Harry
Are you a spring ball guy?
Ron
I was.
Harry
Problem is, I lose the spring ball.
Ron
I used to crush in Durox.
Harry
Really?
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
It's crazy. Anything that ends in an X is insane.
Ron
Durox was. Was the recovery.
Harry
I was big on Jocko Fuel.
Francis
Serious Jocko Willinks.
Ron
Yeah.
Harry
Jocko Fuel. It was good. I mean, that worked.
Ron
Yeah.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
That's where you really perk up from the hours of 1am till 5 in case there's raid plan.
Harry
That was. I think that was the closest thing I've ever done to steroids.
Francis
Yeah.
Harry
You wake up the next morning stronger than you were.
Francis
Like, when did I tunnel out of my apartment? Yeah, I remember digging this some jocko fuel.
Harry
I might have to pick up some more.
Francis
I might have to top tap into his show.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
And listen, get some leadership tips.
Ron
Do you have any use for a serious knife, like a hunting knife or a. A sort of a tool knife of any kind?
Harry
I got, I bought myself, or I got, I bought myself a nice L.L. bean Blade years back when I was like getting into fishing and I was like, it's gonna be good. Like I'll bring this. Like I bring it when we go to Wyoming and stuff. I think it's only ever been used to cut open boxes. Like Amazon packages.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Which is disrespectful to your good blade.
Harry
It's disrespectful to the blade. It's never seen, it's never even seen like grass, the dirt, anything. It's never, it's never filet of fish.
Francis
You have to respect your blades.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
Like these new Swedish blades I got, my wife was like trying to use them to like cut pasta. I was like, don't. You fucking. Don't do that.
Ron
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Francis
You just save it for a snake.
Ron
Wait, which are better, the Japanese ones or the Swedish ones?
Francis
Well, they're just different. Like the Swedish ones are for like eating and the Japanese ones are.
Ron
Oh, you have nice tableware.
Francis
These are. Yeah, it's like steak. Steakish table.
Ron
That's awesome, dude. Really lacking.
Harry
When you eat dinner, do you and your wife, like, when you got, do you guys sit on like opposite ends of the table? I imagine like a 50 foot gap between you guys on both sides of the table. Why? How are you enjoying your meal?
Francis
It's not like that big ass table we do. I mean we have a, a regular sized table.
Ron
They don't live in a cathedral.
Francis
You've, you've been to my apartment and seen my table.
Harry
It's a cathedral.
Francis
I think you've eaten out. You might have eaten at my table.
Harry
Pass the salt. Like you're curling plates and play shuffleboard on it.
Francis
Yeah, there's just sand on my table so it can slide easier.
Ron
I'm trying to think.
Francis
You've been to that table, you sat, you've eaten at that table. It's a normal sized table.
Harry
I had Papa John's at that table.
Francis
I'VE done Papa John's since then.
Harry
Padre Juan for our special Juan.
Ron
Padre Juan's.
Francis
I need some Padre Juans. I wonder if the Mexican bros like pizza as much as we do or they just have enough in their cuisine where it's like, yeah, we can just remix beans and tortillas forever. We never even have to get to pizza.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
I don't know.
Ron
Did you see the Quigs edit of us in Spanish?
Harry
No.
Ron
He must have aied our voices.
Harry
Yeah.
Ron
Into Spanish translations of a clip.
Harry
I gotta see that.
Ron
It was very funny.
Harry
Sounds funny.
Ron
And then there's subtitles and I'm laughing and it's Jaja.
Harry
That's Quigs. That's the Quigs touch.
Francis
I, I got it right here.
Ron
Once he gets his hands on something, you know it's going to be good.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
Because your v.
Harry
Have to learn Spanish and just go full espanol for an episode. That would be hilarious.
Francis
It's so worth it. All you got to do is get in the kitchen. They said I was close on that whistle.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
I don't know what I missed on, though. Am I, is my pitch wrong or am I, am I missing a word?
Ron
I don't know it. I don't know. I, I, I learned French.
Francis
I watched one battle after another, though.
Harry
Oh, banger.
Francis
It was a banger.
Ron
Yeah, it's good. Good. The best part is the car chase scene at the end.
Harry
Yeah. I thought I loved it. I thought it was great.
Francis
I thought so too. And I hated licorice pizza.
Harry
Well, yeah.
Francis
Movie was Cheeks was the same director.
Ron
Oh, it was pta.
Harry
I didn't know, but I tried to watch that movie twice, and both times I turned it off.
Francis
It's vicious Cheeks. I mean, it has the same, like, frenetic, like, chaotic energy as this movie did, but, like, with no stakes.
Harry
No.
Ron
There Will Be Blood is as good as it gets.
Francis
That's him too, right?
Ron
As far as movies go, it might be the best in my time. The best movie I've ever seen.
Harry
You think?
Ron
Yeah, truly, I think it's the best movie. And that's not, that's not a. I mean, I'm a little bit of that take is informed by.
Francis
Give me the blood, Eli.
Ron
I want the blood.
Francis
Give me the blood.
Ron
It's so funny.
Francis
It's so good. He's the best.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
I watch. And, and he just doesn't miss on the movies he picks, too. I think he did a Daniel Day Lewis has, like, a period piece movie about living in New York that's supposed to be One of the best movies about New York York that I've never watched.
Ron
Is that Phantom Thread?
Francis
No, I think it's.
Ron
Before that I never saw that one.
Francis
But I bet that one's good too. But I never watched it because it just. It's a little. It feels a little.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Fruity.
Ron
I don't know what it's about. I don't even know.
Francis
Phantom of the Opera, Phantom Thread.
Ron
I think it's about some Taylor, maybe a ribbon cutter.
Harry
I think Phantom of the Thread.
Francis
A guy who just opened Phantom of the Threads here.
Harry
Yeah.
Francis
All right.
Ron
Yeah, let's. We've.
Harry
We've exceeded expectations for today as well.
Ron
As we can cover a lot of ground.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
All right.
Harry
Thank you, everyone, for listening. We will be back on Thursday. Goodbye.
Ron
Close was over.
Francis
Still, still underground.
Ron
So I looked older to you.
Harry
Came around.
Ron
I was only falling one way.
Francis
I.
Ron
Was only falling one way.
Francis
James.
Ron
Was drifting.
Harry
Fool who was that?
Francis
I. Now I come alive I was only.
Ron
Falling one way I was only falling one way I was only, only falling.
Harry
One way.
Ron
I was only falling one way that is true, you're right did you realize no one can take me in.
Harry
I was only falling one way.
Ron
That you can see. Sa.
In this episode of Son of a Boy Dad, Lil Sasquatch (Lil Sas), Rone, Francis, and Harry engage in a loose, freewheeling conversation that mixes everyday anecdotes, pop culture observations, irreverent humor, and memories both light and dark. Marshawn Lynch, while referenced throughout, inspires a central thread on risk-taking, authenticity, and being misunderstood. As always, the team leans into their strengths: riffing on masculinity in the modern world, sports, showbiz, cooking obsessions, and formative memories.
The episode is marked by irreverence, quick-witted exchanges, and the classic Barstool blurring of sincerity and satire. The hosts oscillate between self-deprecating personal stories, pop culture hot-takes, and compassionate (if awkward) support for each other. References to race, sexuality, and trauma are approached with a blend of dark humor and genuine curiosity, reflecting both how young men process discomfort and how the culture itself is changing.
While Marshawn Lynch is not a direct guest, his persona, philosophy, and the themes he represents—authenticity, risk-taking, being misunderstood—form a backbone to the sprawling conversation. The episode is rich in inside jokes, generational references, and the kind of group therapy that only happens among old friends with microphones—unfiltered, often heartfelt, occasionally poignant, and always hunting for a punchline.