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Ron
Hey. Son of a boy. Dad. Listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music.
Sass
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Francis
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Sass
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Francis
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Sass
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Shane Gillis
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Francis
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Shane Gillis
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Francis
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Ron
Are you coming from somewhere? Are you going to somewhere?
Shane Gillis
I'm going back to Westchester.
Ron
Oh, nice.
Sass
Taking the chopper. The blaze landed in the front yard. All right, Ready?
Francis
We good to go?
Shane Gillis
I'm so ready.
Sass
Alrighty. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy dad podcast. Today it is February 16th. It is. What time is it? Three?
Ron
Yeah, almost 2:52. 2:52.
Sass
Early, early start. And we are joined by special guest Shane Gillis. Hey, how's it going?
Shane Gillis
You got a good voice there at the beginning.
Sass
Oh, thank you. I appreciate that.
Shane Gillis
Welcome to.
Sass
I've got it down to a T. Yeah.
Shane Gillis
And the ads. You're good at the ads.
Sass
Oh, thank you. That means a lot. That means a lot to the advertisers.
Francis
Are you serious?
Shane Gillis
Listen, I'm an avid listener.
Francis
His ads, I don't know, I struggle.
Sass
Sometimes because they send.
Shane Gillis
I knew Frank was going to be a joke.
Sass
He hasn't. He's not going to like that.
Ron
He's. He's going to like A lot of things.
Francis
Well, the ads. I would not. That wouldn't be at the top of my list.
Shane Gillis
Oh, yeah.
Sass
We want you to have this.
Ron
We want you to have this gift.
Shane Gillis
Thank you.
Sass
No one has it.
Ron
It's the son of a boy. Dad. When it's just Ron and Sass. So when Francis wasn't on the show.
Francis
That's it.
Ron
It's the old logo. Francis.
Francis
Didn't you.
Shane Gillis
Oh, it says with Francis.
Francis
No.
Shane Gillis
It does with Francis. Yeah. Frank's made his way onto it.
Francis
I think somebody made those for us special. I can't remember exactly.
Sass
It was the same person who made you that. Warlords. Oh, Right before it was Bush.
Francis
Not a lot of people have.
Sass
Not a lot of people have those.
Ron
It's rare. You should actually get in on Telluride Bush, bro. If you're. If you game, you could change things.
Shane Gillis
Call of Duty. Yeah. In the elevator he was telling me he's gonna stop smoking weed because he's not that good at Call of Duty. I'll say. That's the most loser. I really gotta make some changes.
Sass
No. It's literally strictly for my game. I'm stepping back.
Shane Gillis
But I get it. You get older, you start sucking in video games.
Sass
Yeah. And I need every advantage. I've literally thought about going to the doctor and, like getting my Adderall prescription. And then I was like, I can't. I can't do that.
Ron
Have you tried sitting forward?
Sass
Literally.
Shane Gillis
Changes everything. I don't know what it is. Yeah.
Ron
The brain balance gets you.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
You. You be a major player on Telluride Bush. You could change things. If you guys.
Shane Gillis
Who do we need to get?
Sass
You could be the face of the. Yeah. It'd be Telluride.
Ron
Shane.
Shane Gillis
Isn't Jersey Jerry on it.
Sass
Yeah. You said you were in his chat the other day.
Shane Gillis
Was it?
Sass
He said you. You were in his Twitch chat. It easily could have just been another dude named Chan Gillis.
Shane Gillis
I might have been. I just got into Twitch. I didn't know that was a thing. It's pretty fun.
Sass
Yeah.
Ron
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
But now. Now it's just chicks doing asmr.
Sass
Well, that's like always been like that.
Shane Gillis
I'm very afraid that my name's gonna show up.
Francis
Yeah, It's.
Sass
It's been like.
Ron
You didn't switch it up at all. Frank.
Shane Gillis
You move a little slow today.
Francis
Feel great.
Shane Gillis
Couple whiskeys.
Francis
I.
Shane Gillis
And you were bragging about it.
Francis
What was that?
Shane Gillis
I'm laughing. You here.
Francis
I was one ahead of you.
Shane Gillis
I'm really. I can drink. Really.
Francis
I mean, You're a beer man.
Shane Gillis
But people love to say that. You don't think I can switch?
Francis
I just. I just.
Shane Gillis
You don't think I can do well with whiskey.
Francis
I guess the question becomes why was I one ahead of you all night?
Shane Gillis
I think you were nervous.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Or a little thirsty. Excited. That was like a date, though.
Ron
That was.
Shane Gillis
Was fun. We needed those whiskeys.
Francis
We did. We went to Fort Charles last night. Damn.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, for Charles. He took me out.
Sass
That's crazy. I asked Francis for a 4 Charles hookup.
Shane Gillis
Like, wouldn't it be a waste on him? Wouldn't he get, like, peanut butter and jelly?
Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Shane Gillis
Get like, chicken fingers, some buttered noodles.
Sass
Damn good chicken fingers, though.
Francis
I took. We. We went out and then at the end of the date, I let him.
Shane Gillis
Order for me, too. Yeah, he did.
Ron
Gentlemen.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Francis
In the show. And then we did Rock, paper scissors for the bill. Shane was standing up to take.
Shane Gillis
Like, he really wanted to do you. You really wanted to do rock, paper scissors for the.
Sass
I know.
Francis
And I lost. And this was like, right after Shane kind of.
Shane Gillis
No, no, no.
Francis
I won't say anything, but.
Ron
But, like, now you have to say no, no.
Francis
It was the dumbest rock, paper scissors I've ever done in my life.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Francis
We had, like, six ties, too.
Sass
Oh, yeah.
Francis
Somehow that hurts way more.
Sass
Or was he going late?
Francis
No, I, like, just.
Ron
We're on the same wavelength.
Sass
You're saying you guys are so connected from that dinner.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
So on the same day, the table.
Shane Gillis
Over was watching us.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, it was. It was a heated rock, paper, scissors.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
And that's an intimate environment.
Shane Gillis
It really is. Like, everyone knows you're doing the conversations we were having next to a family.
Sass
Oh, yeah.
Shane Gillis
It was two little kids and their parents.
Ron
And you guys were saying some nasty.
Shane Gillis
We're saying some heinous, explicit, horrible things.
Francis
Horrible.
Ron
I imagine he did.
Sass
I brings their kids to four Charles.
Francis
Wealthy people.
Sass
Yeah, I guess.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
What did you go? We went burger. Some.
Francis
Let's think. We did fat ass steak, shrimp scampi. Then we did. We split a burger, and then we did prime ribs.
Shane Gillis
It was crazy.
Francis
Yeah. We did prime ribbon, and then we did side of broccoli. We did a side of Mac and cheese. The truffle Mac, of course.
Sass
I'm actually. I'm not a fan of that.
Francis
Really?
Ron
A little heavy.
Sass
A little too truffley.
Ron
Yeah. You'll feel it in your pores.
Francis
Specifically at Fort Charles.
Sass
Specifically. Just anything. I'm over anything. Truffle and truffle infused. If you will.
Francis
Gotcha.
Sass
Not my thing.
Francis
And then we had one other thing. And I can't remember exactly what it was. We had another side.
Ron
No steak.
Sass
No one even remembers because there was too many damn whiskeys.
Shane Gillis
I had two whiskeys. It was crazy.
Francis
Yeah. And we had a beer before.
Shane Gillis
And a beer before.
Ron
Oh, my God.
Francis
And I had a Manhattan before that.
Shane Gillis
When he was we. Then we go to a bar after, and I'm like, all right, now we're gonna start drinking. And he was like, I think I'm gonna call it, Shane. I'm gonna call it now. I've had enough. We had three seconds. We were about to drink.
Francis
I didn't know. I don't know. And then right as we were getting as. I was like, let's. Because he. I knew he had a lot of stuff to do today. Yeah. And he had said he might. Come on, boy, dad. As long as we didn't get too fucked up. And that was when I was like, you're pulling it.
Shane Gillis
You were wasted.
Francis
I had to drink for us. It was like, Jonah Hill.
Shane Gillis
And get him to the Green. He was in, like, a nice outfit. I had a lovely time tonight.
Sass
Drinking Shane's drinks for him.
Ron
Yeah.
Sass
The show, you know.
Francis
And get him to the Greek. When Jonah Hill, like, smokes all the weed so Russell Brand can't have any before he goes on the Today show. And then he throws up. You know what I'm talking about?
Shane Gillis
You never.
Ron
No.
Francis
That's a really, really funny movie.
Shane Gillis
It was very corny. I watched that before I did the Greek.
Francis
Wow.
Shane Gillis
It was very embarrassing.
Francis
That's cool.
Sass
That's a cool event.
Francis
That's pretty cool. Yeah.
Sass
That's sick. That's. That one that's, like, half out. It's like, kind of like.
Shane Gillis
I shouldn't have said this.
Sass
Why?
Shane Gillis
Because it is embarrassing. I was embarrassed on my friends. I was watching get him to the Greek the night before. But I watch Rudy before I go out tonight and shit like that.
Sass
Yeah, of course. You gotta watch.
Francis
That's awesome.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Sass
Yeah.
Ron
All right.
Shane Gillis
I take it back.
Ron
It's cool.
Shane Gillis
It's sick. But Frank. Let's go back to Frank. Yeah.
Ron
Yeah, of course.
Francis
Huh.
Sass
You texted us this morning. I didn't know that any of that happened. You texted us this morning and you were like. You were like, man, I'm in a bad place. Just out of context, I was like, oh. I was like, what happened? I'm checking Twitter, dude.
Francis
I had this guy. I had my. I had my espresso technician come at 9. 30 in the morning.
Sass
Damn.
Francis
Because my machine finally arrived.
Shane Gillis
This is crazy shit.
Francis
Yeah. And he was affixing the. The wood accent knobs, which I specially ordered from Australia. And he was doing all this work, and I had to. I had diarrhea because of what we'd eaten and drank.
Sass
Yeah, of course.
Francis
And I had to turn my shower on to sort of camouflage the sounds from.
Shane Gillis
Yes.
Francis
Lovely espresso technician.
Sass
Yeah.
Ron
Francis. I saw a picture of the espresso, and I'm worried that the. The shade of wood doesn't really match your interior decor.
Francis
That's okay.
Shane Gillis
I didn't like the shade of wood.
Ron
Don't you kind of feel like it's a little bit.
Sass
I thought it looked great. Friends.
Ron
It'S dark for the rest of the kitchen.
Francis
We'll move. We'll move it, then. We'll move it.
Sass
I'll.
Francis
I'll move apartments. In order to match the espresso machine. This thing is. I said to these two guys. So Harry's whole, like, puts all of his love into his PC and his gaming setup.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
And his monitors. Ron has his children.
Ron
Right.
Francis
And then I now have this thing, and I. When I finally got it all assembled, I literally thought, like, I would. I would take a bullet for this machine.
Sass
It's nice. I'll be honest. I saw. I looked at it and I looked at it for a while.
Francis
I finally have something in my life where. When people say, what's the one thing you'd grab if Your house.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
How heavy is it?
Francis
Heavy. Yeah.
Shane Gillis
But you've been training.
Francis
I mean, I'm in shape.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Sass
And there's a lot of trinkets.
Francis
Yes.
Sass
Which I appreciate it.
Francis
Gizmos and gadgets.
Sass
Yeah. A lot of gadgets. A lot of accessories. Yeah.
Ron
I kind of want to kidnap it, honestly. To see how much you really love it.
Shane Gillis
Don't you dare.
Ron
Savannah Guthrie's mom. Just dangle that over you. How much would you. How much would you pay ransom for it? If it came down to it, the thing.
Francis
The thing that's tricky. Right. Is that it takes so long for these to get made. So if you said, like, would I pay the amount of money that I paid for?
Ron
It's worth more than that.
Francis
I mean, I'd pay up to close to that.
Sass
How much money was it originally?
Francis
The machine was 4900, like, in total with all the.
Sass
With all the gizmos and gadgets.
Francis
The grinder was 900 because I bought it on Facebook Marketplace place instead of new, of course. And then all the gadgets probably another three, 400 bucks. But then I'm buying now I'm buying handmade ceramic bugs from Japan.
Sass
Bugs. I was like, what the.
Francis
And then I bought some vintage Hermes cups on Etsy.
Sass
Hermes cups?
Francis
Yeah, they're holiday themed. I don't know why I bought them.
Sass
I don't even know if I know what that is.
Francis
They're cozy for like a month.
Ron
Just a couple months. Yeah, it'll be nice. So you. So you have.
Sass
So it's probably around 6k total.
Francis
This is not the type of stuff we talked about at dinner last night.
Ron
It definitely has to be. You at least floated the coffee stuff.
Shane Gillis
Just as he did talk about.
Francis
Did I mention it?
Ron
Does this interest you at all?
Shane Gillis
You said you and Mullen bonded over the coffee stuff.
Francis
Yeah, I sent him a photo of it.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Francis
By the way, I asked you for Mullen's phone number. Oh, I didn't bring my phone. I didn't realize he's texted me before. And I saw. Because I texted him the photo, the coffee.
Sass
I think I know what it is.
Francis
The last thing that he texted me was the most insane.
Sass
Was it the sketch?
Francis
Yes. He wanted me to play, like, a trans Frankenstein or some shit.
Shane Gillis
I think I got that part. I played Frankenstein then.
Francis
It might have. It might not have been that. It was something, wasn't it?
Sass
Like the Terminator. But he was trans.
Francis
Maybe that was.
Sass
I remember you telling me about it.
Francis
And I was like, you left him on red? No, I was like, man, I don't know if I'm really in a place in my career where I can accept this role. Like, this seems like it could really send me in one direction. I haven't earned the type of armor that you have. Yeah. You know, Know.
Sass
I remember when. I remember when you told me about.
Francis
That, and he was like, no problem, man. Good luck. That was the last thing. And then photo of my coffee machine.
Ron
Did he like it? Did he respond well?
Francis
Yeah, he was like, why is this so cool? And I explained it.
Ron
Yeah, put him on.
Francis
How.
Sass
How has the coffee been, bro?
Francis
On, I'm not kidding you. It's unbelievable.
Sass
Is it, like, actually, like your, like, first taste, you were like, holy. Or was it first taste you were like, no. Kind of had to force it.
Francis
The technician is also fine.
Shane Gillis
Definitely. I'm gonna go to your house and give you two cups. One Starbucks.
Ron
One year's blind taste testing.
Francis
I'm gonna the Pepsi challenge, and you're gonna. You're not gonna believe how good it is.
Shane Gillis
You do, like, the finer thing. I do It's a great dinner. You were right.
Francis
Yeah. That was. That was an awesome day.
Shane Gillis
But we sit down, he orders everything on the menu. And I was like, I know. You worked out as hard as you could for this meal.
Ron
You have to work yourself to getting hungry.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. Pizza.
Francis
Earlier I told him, I texted him. I was like, don't eat. He's ordering.
Shane Gillis
All of a sudden he's like, we should get an ice cream. Cream sundae.
Francis
Well, they had one next to the table next to us. And I was like, that's coming. And he was like, no. I was like, there goes my night. Okay.
Ron
You need to prep for a dinner like that. You need to train for a dinner.
Shane Gillis
I swear to God. It was actually a pretty reasonable amount of food.
Francis
Yeah, we did.
Shane Gillis
It wasn't that crazy.
Francis
No, it wasn't.
Shane Gillis
A steak would have been wild.
Sass
Francis does go nuts at restaurants, though. Like, he'll eat until he falls, until he dies. Like, until he literally. There's no more food that can go in.
Ron
You gotta be a fat fuck.
Francis
We got a big reservation there for Harry's birthday a couple years ago. And I was like, these are the things you gotta have. And you're like, I don't want any of those things.
Sass
But then I ended up eating all of them.
Francis
Begrudgingly.
Sass
Well, I think I was like, I wanted a full burger. And you were like, you're never gonna eat a full burger.
Francis
Yeah, the burger was too. Is too big. If you'd had a whole burger yourself, you would have not wanted any of the other things.
Sass
I had, like, one, like, grilled cheese, like, triangle piece of a. Yeah. And I was stuffed. Yeah, Stuffed right after.
Francis
I will say that the steak at Fort Charles is. Is kind of a miss.
Sass
Yeah.
Francis
I don't think that that's trash.
Ron
Isn't it a steakhouse?
Francis
Technically, I think.
Ron
And their steak is bad.
Francis
Their prime rib is better.
Shane Gillis
You're never getting back in, dude.
Francis
What's that?
Shane Gillis
You can't trash them like this.
Francis
I'm not trashing them. I think that the state.
Ron
I think the steak at the steakhouse is bad.
Francis
They're known for the burger. The burger is what they're known for. And they came and they did the whole song and dance.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, it was nice.
Francis
They cut the E. Who filmed they drip it?
Shane Gillis
No one.
Francis
Neither think I filmed it.
Ron
Yeah, you're like, put. Put the light on.
Sass
Do they have the white gloves on?
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
Those are crazy, the gloves.
Francis
I told Chain a lot reminds you of slaves.
Shane Gillis
That's why I like it. It's Like a slave giving me a cheeseburger with an egg on it.
Ron
The slaves what came first were. Were slaves here while cheeseburgers were being served in America.
Francis
No.
Sass
No. No way.
Francis
Probably, I think just turkey.
Shane Gillis
It's probably really close.
Sass
Oh, yeah, No, I think. I just totally.
Ron
I don't know.
Sass
I think it'd be like it was.
Ron
You said it was just turkey.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Might have been the 1885.
Ron
I was gonna say technically, 88.
Sass
No, but technically, no, but there's probably some straggles, a couple guys holding it down still 25 years after, like, dudes.
Ron
In Vietnam who didn't know the war was over.
Sass
Yeah. Still fighting. There's a lot of stories like that. Yeah. Like, yeah, this dude was in the jungle for 30 years after the war.
Ron
Didn't know.
Sass
Just waiting. Cheeseburgers waiting for the enemy.
Ron
Yeah. It's brutal.
Shane Gillis
Damn, that must have been disheartening to be one of those Japanese guys after World War II.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
And you get out. You get out in the 70s and everyone's like, God damn this. The whole country changed. We were going nuts. When I went to the jungle, there's.
Ron
So much pride and honor walking out. Yes. You defended the post. Waiting for.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
There's a story of that guy in Japan that was like, throwing grenades at, like, tourists in the 80s.
Sass
Just still holding it down.
Ron
It'd be fun to buzz his tower.
Francis
Oh, yeah.
Ron
Because the grenades probably suck. They're probably like 20 second grenades. Just throw it back.
Shane Gillis
It's probably like neighborhood kids that are like, don't go up there. Yeah, he's gonna throw a grenade. They're bringing it.
Ron
Running his house, poking the POW.
Francis
Did you. You watched World War II in color. I'm sure there. I think there was that episode where they talked about the dropping of the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And I. I had a complete misconception about how that went about, like, the effect of the bomb and how people were killed.
Shane Gillis
It was like fires, right?
Francis
Yeah, Yeah.
Ron
I thought.
Francis
I didn't know if it was like, people were just evaporated.
Shane Gillis
Think close to it.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
But that's what I would want.
Shane Gillis
Then it was all just fires and it was really terrible. Yeah.
Francis
And the radiation.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, yeah.
Sass
Cancer.
Francis
For a long time.
Ron
But I think, like, the bombing of Tokyo was almost the same at, like, it was the same, like, magnitude. Yeah. Like, as just a single atomic bomb. Just because it was all, like, lean.
Shane Gillis
And it was just firebombing and it was. Yeah, yeah.
Ron
Fire would rip through it, but look how strong they built back Though they.
Shane Gillis
Did build that, handled it well.
Sass
They kind of had their clothing so well.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
They're like, never again. When they dropped the bombs the first time, our clothes exploded.
Shane Gillis
We need stronger materials.
Sass
Yeah. I've said it before, but if I. If I was in a country that was getting bombed, like, nukes dropping, I would want the bomb to land on top of me.
Shane Gillis
Of course.
Sass
Like, I want to be the first person to die.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Catch it.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Sass
I want it landing on top of my head. Yeah. Just straight down on.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. In Queens, every time they show a nuke going off in New York, it's always like, Times Square.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
The ring was always like, I'm just gonna burn.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Astoria. You're on fire.
Sass
You'd be like, trying to put the fire out.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. It'd be a tough. And everyone else would meet Dami and o' Connor filming a podcast. All three of us are hammered.
Sass
Oh, the windows would just explode.
Shane Gillis
Tommy be like, God damn it, Chris, Would you do.
Sass
We had Tommy on a couple weeks ago.
Shane Gillis
I saw that wasted. It's like 10am.
Ron
Gonna drink with us. We drank with them, though. He was just like a pow. He was dressed like.
Francis
Yeah, yeah.
Ron
Was defending an island in Japan.
Francis
Did I tell you guys that when I bought my place upstate, the first thing I did was check the blast radius, the radii of the largest nuclear weapons in the world to see if my home was far enough away from New York City that I would miss. Was it. There was one that would have been. I would have been inside the radius. What was it, the hydrogen bomb? It's the big. Whatever. The biggest one is that this Tsar Bomba.
Shane Gillis
There's probably new ones now, right?
Francis
That might have been it.
Shane Gillis
That was the old one. I don't know.
Ron
They're getting so good.
Shane Gillis
I'm afraid of nukes, too.
Sass
The big one now is the H bomb, the hydrogen bomb. I think Korea. North Korea is the only one that has it.
Shane Gillis
I don't think that's right.
Francis
That can't be there.
Ron
Did you see their new leader? That. Who knows?
Shane Gillis
Who knows.
Francis
For sure?
Sass
Someone told me that. I think about 10 years ago.
Shane Gillis
Think North Korea has.
Francis
No.
Sass
They got everything.
Ron
They're seeing their parades.
Shane Gillis
Parades are sick.
Sass
The parades are insane.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. Those are nice.
Sass
And I'm starting to fall into the North Korean propaganda.
Shane Gillis
We're the ones getting propaganda.
Sass
I think people love living there. I think they love it. I think they're there and they're like, what do you mean, South Korea?
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Sass
This is the greatest country on the.
Shane Gillis
Big the big building, though. The big evil building they have.
Sass
Well, every. Every country's got to have one.
Shane Gillis
Pyongyang has like a clearly an evil villains layer.
Francis
A ministry of truth.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. No, it really. It literally is like a triangle. Yes.
Francis
I finished 1984.
Shane Gillis
Nice. It's good.
Francis
Oh. Oh, man. I thought it was really bleak.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, it's really sad.
Francis
The part in the end where he's getting like brainwashed and tortured when it's.
Shane Gillis
Like, she betrayed you.
Francis
So long. Yeah.
Ron
Is that the one you peeled off his shelf?
Francis
Yeah, that was the book I read. Five pages.
Shane Gillis
Insane. Walk into my house and take 1984 off the shelf. Take your shirt off and read it.
Francis
I never. Me borrowing the book bothered you. I understood the shirt part, but I thought you would have liked me reading a book.
Shane Gillis
Taking a book's crazy.
Francis
Okay. Yeah. I make a lot of mistakes. I do. Yeah.
Ron
But you're also just a instantly familiar and comfortable guy.
Francis
Can I.
Shane Gillis
It's so comfortable.
Ron
Yeah, he's comfortable.
Francis
Let me set the space a little bit. Shane had this amazingly bucolic, charming farmhouse. Rented. And he was away. And it's like it was. The sun was setting on a warm October afternoon and he was going to be back in an hour. And there was a beautiful Adirondack in the yard. And I was like, well, I guess I'll wait.
Ron
Dystopian fiction.
Francis
Yeah. And read and look out at this beautiful apple orchard that he's got. And that was sort of my mindset.
Sass
Nothing wrong with that. In my mind.
Francis
Taking my shirt off was crazy. That was a mistake. Yeah.
Ron
I think they're kind of equally insane. Honestly, like people's books aren't for you to read. They're for them to show off what they've done and like what they've accomplished in life.
Francis
I. I wonder. I love, like lending books to people.
Ron
If you go to a hotel room, there's a couple books in there. Are you cracking one open?
Francis
Well, they only ever have the Bible.
Sass
Yeah.
Ron
I think some hotels I've been to recently.
Sass
Remember when they were saying that there was money in the Bibles at the hotels?
Francis
Did they?
Sass
I checked. There was none. No money.
Shane Gillis
It's just a trick to get you Jews. Just trying to get you Jews into Jesus. Dude, I heard there's money in there.
Ron
I shook it from the spine. And you could say that because you're Jewish.
Sass
Somewhat.
Ron
But when Francis, when you came over and. And met my kids, we were like sitting. I have like a U shaped couch and we were all like sitting there like, just kind of conversing. Him, My wife and I. And he did. He laid fully down on the couch while we were crazy with, like.
Shane Gillis
He laid down on the couch?
Sass
Yeah.
Francis
I took my shoes off.
Shane Gillis
I thought you were gonna say shirt again.
Francis
Did I do that?
Ron
You laid down.
Francis
Wasn't that because Climbing all over me.
Ron
No, it was. It was. You getting comfortable.
Francis
It was fine. I'm sorry.
Ron
No, no, it's fine.
Shane Gillis
Was this. Was this the time he went on another kid date later?
Ron
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Right? That was. That was terrifying. Dude.
Francis
What did I do?
Shane Gillis
There's. He took a picture of you with another family.
Francis
Oh, yeah.
Shane Gillis
You're like, I have to go. I got to get to the gym. Just hold.
Ron
I went right outside to walk my dog.
Sass
I think that photo might be one of the funniest pictures I've ever seen.
Francis
You.
Shane Gillis
You answering the door is one of my favorite. I was unbelievable.
Sass
I had just flown from Portland, Oregon. I took a red eye and I.
Ron
We had.
Sass
We had to film at 10:00am and I landed at, like, at like, 8. And I went home and I was like, I'm gonna sleep for, like, 30 minutes. And I woke up, it was like three hours later, and my. Someone's pounding on my door. And I go to the door and it's Francis. And I was like, oh, my God.
Francis
I was pretty gentle, though.
Ron
You were so nice because we were pissed.
Shane Gillis
Pissed.
Ron
And you were.
Francis
We had a rented space for a certain amount of time, and it was a big production.
Ron
There was another shoot afterwards.
Sass
He just answered the door and he's like, we gotta go.
Francis
Are you okay?
Sass
We didn't think we did two podcasts after the video.
Ron
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Ron
It was insane.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
That was a rough day.
Ron
Yeah, that was a wild one for sure. But I thought that you were really nice about it.
Francis
Yeah, I could tell he was, but when he opened the door and I saw his face, I was like, his face is. He's so scared. He's so scared.
Ron
Sweaty and catching your breath. I'm so gross. Waking up. Sweaty, matted hair, dark red eyes. The lantern.
Sass
I had literally just opened my eyes. I was so tired.
Ron
What did you think it was? Did you know that there was a podcast or something to film? Yeah.
Sass
I mean, I've woken up late before. I haven't done it like that in a really long time. But when I was, like, drinking a lot, I would wake up and it would be. I would wake up for the yak, and it would be 3pm, the 1pm show is over, and I just woke up.
Shane Gillis
I Didn't think you were that bad of a drinker.
Sass
I mean, that's because you liked to instigate.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
It's pretty fun to watch.
Sass
I would be, like 15 beers deep, and you'd be getting me shots for everyone not involved.
Ron
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
To make someone have a bad day.
Ron
Just for you to be able. Just for you to like.
Shane Gillis
It's really funny. Go, yeah, dude, do a show. You want one? I go, no.
Sass
That was when I noticed that you were getting me drunk. Is it? And then you just wouldn't take one. You'd be like, no, I'm not drinking. I remember after your special filming shot last night, too.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Francis
Of whiskey. So I had five whiskey drinks.
Sass
It's a lot of whiskey.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
Any wine?
Francis
No wine.
Sass
Is your stomach in shambles right now?
Francis
I told you, I got it all out.
Ron
Well, you diarted out.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
Smart man.
Sass
Usually when I diarrhea, though, I'm like, that was maybe 15.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. It's gonna be an all day.
Ron
Yeah. Yeah.
Francis
Five whiskey drinks and four beers. That's a big night for me. It is. Yeah.
Sass
It's a big night.
Ron
Did you brothers. Did you brothers see Michael Jordan pinch.
Sass
Pinch in that ass?
Ron
I'd be remiss if we didn't get to at least touch on that.
Sass
There's got to be an explanation there, right?
Shane Gillis
I think MJ likes. He probably did 15 shots.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Just having fun.
Ron
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
He's awesome. Miss every shot. You don't think.
Sass
But he didn't just pinch that boy's ass. It was. He was assaulting that boy's ass.
Francis
I haven't seen this.
Sass
He was. He was going like. Like, this is the boy's ass. Tiny boy. And he's just going.
Francis
I haven't seen this. Like a.
Ron
Like a drunk crab.
Francis
Who's the boy?
Shane Gillis
No one knows. No one knows. Ignoring him, too.
Ron
It was like an IndyCar driver son or something like that.
Francis
Huh.
Sass
Because the.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
The kid didn't react at all. Yeah, the kid, he was just like, mike. Mike's at it again.
Ron
Here we go. A live reaction.
Sass
And we could talk about the Katie burners, too.
Francis
You up?
Sass
Are you guys up to date on that?
Shane Gillis
I'm not sure what that is.
Ron
Oh, how many pinches, Tyler?
Sass
You definitely.
Shane Gillis
That's one too many pinches.
Ron
Yeah. That's so many pinches. He was just ravenous.
Shane Gillis
One is funny.
Ron
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
One would still be weird, but it's funny.
Sass
Seventeen is a little.
Francis
Scratching the backs of his legs. Well, it's weird that the kid didn't. The Kid didn't notice.
Sass
Yeah.
Ron
Do you think he knew it was Michael Jordan and he was just tired of it, or do you think that that's just how they horseplay on that, on that racing team?
Francis
I just don't know. Maybe. Yeah. I don't know.
Sass
It's tough. It takes a minute to process if you need a couple minutes.
Ron
Yeah, they're saying that LeBron's the goat now.
Sass
Yeah, they're saying that they're. Well, I mean, I've been a LeBron GOAT fan. I've been a LeBron guy my entire life. And this kind of just. This is the concrete.
Ron
He has no footage of him fucking drunken crabbing a little boy's ass.
Sass
Exactly.
Ron
He couldn't be stopped. It was nasty. But then. Yeah, the KD burners. I don't. I have no problem with that.
Sass
I don't have any problem with it either. It's hilarious.
Shane Gillis
I know what that is. Yeah.
Ron
I think that he was just talking on his teammates. I think he's allowed to do that. I'm sure you see the videos of.
Sass
Him yesterday, though, walking around on the court with the phone in his hands and he's like, every single video that came out of him yesterday, it's him like with his phone like this, like, eyes wide open.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. Just like True detective.
Ron
But I'm surprised that he gives a. Like, he has the most out of pocket on the Internet every day, no matter what. He doesn't need a. A burner to say that kind of.
Sass
He's talking on the team, though.
Ron
Yeah. His current and former teams and his coaches and I think he.
Francis
Who did he.
Ron
What. What do you say about Jabari. Jabari Smith? He's like, he. I think he just called him retarded.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
Yeah.
Ron
But it was something else. He had a good modifier on retarded. Maybe he's like functionally or something.
Shane Gillis
Just low key retarded.
Ron
That's nice.
Shane Gillis
Then.
Sass
And then they were going after like, like the. What was the juicy. The one that. It was like. He was like, man, looks like she's with Herbo now. And then someone replied and they were like, dude, aren't you about to play in one minute?
Ron
You said it in the group chat.
Sass
Yeah, yeah, in like a Twitter group chat with just like random NBA fans and KD under a burner and he's know it's him. Yeah. And he's messaging them like drama one minute before the game starts.
Ron
Do you think that there is gaming buddies? Because the Bond people have with gaming dudes, they've never met before is the strongest bond that people have. Like, didn't Jersey Jerry have his boy Ravioli or something like that, who's like, his best friend? He, like, come.
Sass
I don't know if him and Ravioli. I think Ravioli quit it. And then he had to stop playing. Quit?
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
He rang the bell.
Sass
He rang the bell.
Shane Gillis
He wasn't built for it.
Sass
Yeah.
Ron
Bush got too old and too high.
Shane Gillis
He just couldn't. Too old, too high. Time, dude. Can't keep smoking weed and gaming like that.
Sass
No, you really can't.
Ron
You have to pick. You really just.
Sass
And it's really. It's like. It's sickening. It's devastating.
Ron
Or it's just time for you to be a CEO. Like, you're not a player anymore. You don't.
Shane Gillis
You're not.
Ron
You're like Kendrick Lamar. Your best rapping's behind you. You just got to be a CEO now.
Shane Gillis
Know.
Sass
I just wonder what would have happened if I applied myself at the right age.
Ron
You'll never know, bro.
Sass
Just like, 22, almost 25. It's over.
Ron
You should hear.
Shane Gillis
You still this young? I feel like I've known you for 10 years. Every time I meet him, he gets younger.
Sass
I was probably 19 when we met.
Shane Gillis
Is that when you started comedy?
Sass
Yeah, around then.
Shane Gillis
God damn it. I was making you drink. Maybe I'm a pedophile. That's crazy.
Ron
We were pinching another shot.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Ron
No. Me and my wife went to multiple bars with him while he had fake IDs, and he'd just be getting X's on his hands.
Sass
Yeah, we almost got kicked. I almost got Roan and his wife kicked out of a bar because of me. That was, like, one of the worst moments of my life.
Shane Gillis
What were you doing in there?
Sass
They were on. They were in Nashville, like, on Vac. We, Me and Ron had to go film something in Nashville, but then he was like, I'm extending the trip through the weekend, and my wife's gonna come down, like, vacation. And then I was like, all right, cool. I'll stay too. And then it turned into, like, him and his wife with me and my buddy, and we're both waiting in line at the bar while the dude's like, these are fake. Like, you're not getting.
Francis
Like.
Sass
He's like. He's got, like, flashlights up to the IDs, and it was just.
Ron
He put the X's. And then we were still drinking. We were, like, passing them drinks in.
Sass
The Barone, bought us beers when we got in, and then we all got thrown out.
Ron
Nice.
Francis
I was like.
Sass
It was a good time.
Shane Gillis
How did you carry on up the first time? Because I think. Wasn't I there for that at the stand?
Sass
No, no.
Shane Gillis
Oh, okay. I was there. One of the first times you went up.
Sass
Definitely one of the first times. I don't remember how old I was when I started. I guess it was probably. It was like, June or you starting.
Shane Gillis
To see any results or.
Sass
Still working on it, but I don't remember. I guess I was probably 20.
Shane Gillis
Nice.
Sass
Around then, maybe. Maybe 19. I don't know.
Ron
What did you think of his set that you saw at that time? Do you remember any. Any takeaways?
Sass
I don't think he watched it.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. I don't know if I watched it.
Sass
It's probably awful. I think I bombed.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. It's pretty hard the first couple times.
Ron
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Really? Especially upstairs at the stand. Oh, yeah, you bomb now.
Sass
They had. That was before they had the curtain.
Shane Gillis
There's no curtains. It was just an open restaurant. It's just a restaurant.
Sass
Yeah.
Ron
Oh, people could see loud music.
Sass
Blasting music.
Shane Gillis
You just bomb.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
I was in there once in, like, five waiters came in at the same time.
Sass
Oh, yeah.
Shane Gillis
There's, like, five separate tables. Everybody got a pizza.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
I was just bombing. And the whole show just stopped for everyone to get their pizza.
Sass
If you go first or second. If you go first or second on one of those shows, like, you're. There's. There's a lot of times where there's more wait staff in the room than audience.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
And it's just. No one's paying. You're taught. You're telling your jokes and you're looking at people just not. Yeah. Not even paying attention.
Shane Gillis
There's, like, a girl podcaster on the lineup, so the whole audience is just 20. 20 girls that are just. They hate me every time. I would do those shows, but I'm not coming up here anymore. I'm not doing this anymore. I don't need this. And they'd all be like, you're. You're terrible, aren't you?
Ron
You're still grinding it up there, though, Sass, right?
Sass
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
Francis
Exactly.
Sass
I run that room.
Shane Gillis
Exactly.
Ron
And you made it your business.
Sass
The king of the upstairs.
Shane Gillis
You're the king of New York.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
You run New York right now.
Sass
I run the country now.
Shane Gillis
I'm running right now.
Ron
I saw Clav in the city this weekend. I don't know if you still.
Sass
I know. I'm surprised you didn't run into him, because you were out with T. Yeah.
Ron
I saw the Top G this weekend. I saw him. He was at the. I was staying at a hotel for Valentine's Day, and I saw Tate go scurrying by.
Francis
Can I give you a little bit of a hard time? Of course.
Ron
Why are you asking?
Francis
Ron did a staycation. Yeah, I think that is. I spend money on dumb. I think that is the single most insane use of money I have, and people do it all the time.
Ron
Yeah, yeah.
Francis
Staying in a hotel within five minutes of your permanent home, I can't justify it.
Ron
Get. Get kid. Get kids.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, and watch.
Ron
Dude, you. You have to get out of your house.
Francis
Fair enough. Fair enough.
Ron
You have to get out of there or you're kicking them out. You're putting them in the nice hotel and just having them head for themselves. You need a little bit of time.
Francis
Fair enough.
Ron
It's. It is. It was a nuts move. It's so crazy, but it felt good.
Sass
I mean, it must have been a nice hotel. Well, if top GS there.
Ron
The top G walked by. He, like, strolled into dinner.
Francis
Is that Andrew Tate?
Sass
Yeah. Yeah.
Ron
Andrew Tate walked into dinner. I, like, sent him, like, a sneaky video.
Sass
Was Tristan there?
Ron
Tristan was not there. No. Tristan Tate, brother.
Francis
Oh, who's that?
Sass
His brother.
Francis
Oh, there. Okay.
Ron
Adam, his trafficker in arms.
Francis
Oh, yeah. I thought he wasn't allowed to leave the country.
Sass
No, he wasn't allowed back now, but now he's back in Hungary. No, he wasn't allowed in the United States.
Shane Gillis
Oh.
Sass
For like, a day.
Francis
Why?
Sass
We cleared it up.
Francis
Okay.
Ron
Yeah, we were at the. We were at, like, the bar area, and he walked into dinner, and while he was in dinner, there were these two guys or these two girls over in the corner with, like, an older lady. And at first my wife and I thought that, like, we're like, oh, that's like their mom taking them out. But the one had, like, a ridiculously low cut shirt, and the other one was, like, taller with, like, a red dress and, like, stringy hair. And I was like, like, no, that's the madam. And these two girls are working. And then when Tate walked out, he was, like, red, and she just fought. She just followed him out.
Sass
That's crazy.
Shane Gillis
Dan. You saw him do this.
Ron
He just went red.
Shane Gillis
Is that a true thing? Because that's crazy.
Sass
That's nuts.
Ron
No, that's not true. That's a. There's, like, a Chris Berman story of walking into a bar and being, like, red beckoning with the.
Sass
I thought that actually happened. I mean, I would. I wouldn't have doubted.
Ron
No, my real. Yeah, my real story was at. On the last day, I was like, walking through the spot. We had like, a couple's massage and like, the biggest bodyguard I've ever seen in my life walked in at like 6, 6, 8. Just like, you'd hate to sleep in this divot. It was fucking massive. And right behind him. I couldn't tell at first. And I was like, like, I think.
Shane Gillis
That'S half pipe sleeping, that you might launch out the other end.
Ron
Snow angel of a divot in his bed. But walking behind him was Jay Z walking in there. I couldn't tell if it was Jay Z. And HOV walked into the spa and I, like, did my massage. And then I got to the. Like, I walked to the sauna after the fact and like, Jay Z was like outside the sauna, like, like, cranking it up. I sat down inside and the alarm started going off because he cranked it up too loud, too high. And then a maintenance guy comes, fixes it, and then he, like, goes back inside and closed the door all the way and cranks it up again. And this happened like three times. The maintenance guy was like, we just have to keep the door a little bit cracked. And Jay Z was just like, in Europe, the. The sauna in. In Europe, the saunas go up to 194. Like, here they only go to 100. So, like, nobody just like, does his.
Francis
Bodyguard go into the sauna with him?
Ron
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Francis
Yeah. Instead of my sweater that I got.
Ron
You, I also wore that sweater. I wore two sweaters and such high quality at quints that I kind of got the same compliments and looks.
Francis
I can't be mad at you for for opting for your quint sweater over my rat.
Ron
I opted for both sweaters. I wore both sweaters and they were both beloved.
Francis
Loved. The quince sweaters are nicer than my rat sweaters. I'll be honest.
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Francis
That's right. Balance.
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Francis
I want to talk about this but one of the coolest things I ever saw was when the the UN General assembly was in session or something. I went to Nobu in Tribeca and there was a table of dignitaries having dinner. I didn't know them, but you could just tell because it was like people from seven different countries and they had the whole back half of the restaurant. And then in front of them were two tables of secret service agents, all of whom were enormous, wearing suits and ties, earpieces, squiggly ear pierces. And their two tables were basically buffering the dignitaries from the rest of the restaurant.
Shane Gillis
Kids table.
Francis
Yes. And they were eating humongous plates of Nobu sushi. And I just couldn't help but think like, like, my God, that's going on the tax bill. Like, this is their job, is they're getting to eat, like, and, and they're so big that they need, you know, hundreds and hundreds of dollars of sushi. That's where they are for dinner. And I, I, that was one of my favorite things I saw.
Sass
Yeah, that would be a good job.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
It's so nice.
Francis
You've got to do what they're doing.
Sass
Yeah.
Francis
Which I thought was awesome.
Ron
Do you think that they get to do anything else? Like, have you ever watched the videos of Met or. Yeah. Messi's bodyguard? It's like a bald dude that, like, he's on his body at all times and he'll like, sprint up if someone even comes on the field.
Francis
Yeah. He runs so fast across the field when someone gets on the field. Yeah.
Sass
Like, kills the kid.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
He's snapped.
Sass
He walks over and the kids. Blood's coming out of. Yeah. So nice to meet you.
Francis
What really happened is the kid, the kid gets there and Messi starts, like, taking his shirt off to give it to him. And then I have to imagine the bodyguards. Like, what am I even doing here?
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Francis
Yeah, you're totally, yeah. Going against our policy.
Sass
Yeah. I guess it's just like, in case.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
Do you think that guy has. What's his vacation, like a week, a year, two weeks a year? And then every other moment he has to be on the body.
Francis
I wonder.
Sass
Probably getting paid so much money, though.
Francis
Probably has someone tag in.
Ron
There's no way he could find love. It's probably so hard for him to find love.
Sass
Messi's guard.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
Why?
Shane Gillis
I bet it's really easy, you think.
Ron
That to find love, lust. Sure, sure.
Francis
But.
Sass
Limerence, perhaps you think that he's.
Ron
Can have a stable relationship.
Sass
Definitely.
Ron
You don't think there's a.
Sass
You don't think there's a girl out there who's like, yeah, I guess I will fly with you and Messi everywhere for the rest of my life.
Ron
I don't think that that's how it's working. Yeah. He wouldn't allow that because then he's going to be protecting the girl and he's going to forget about Messi.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. What if the girl and him get in a fight?
Francis
Right.
Ron
What side are you taking?
Sass
Yeah, well, you'd have to take Messi's. But then you say to the girl, you say, you knew about this when you signed up for this. You knew there was a chance of this happening. And I'm going with Messi.
Ron
How much of a would the girl be? Is she just starting with a messy. The meal ticket?
Francis
Any.
Shane Gillis
Any girl on earth.
Ron
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
After the third hangout. He's kind of a dick.
Ron
You laugh harder.
Shane Gillis
Why do you always do what he says? You should be the one.
Ron
Stand up for yourself.
Shane Gillis
What a dick. Yeah.
Sass
Messi's a prick.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Ron
That guy. Tired of his Ronaldo all the way.
Sass
Yeah.
Francis
Is Messi playing in the World cup again?
Sass
I don't know.
Ron
I presume so. Because he's still playing. Like, why wouldn't Argentina want him back?
Francis
No, for sure. I just, I. I thought that the last World cup was the last one he was going to play.
Sass
And for when is the World Cup? Soon.
Shane Gillis
This summer. Yeah.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
You guys watch any of the Olympics this week?
Shane Gillis
Yeah, a lot of it.
Sass
The quad God took a nasty fall in the final. I didn't see this done.
Ron
I only saw a still photo of it. Describe it to me.
Francis
I mean, he didn't feel comfortable. The pressure got to him.
Sass
The lights were too bright. That's what it came down to.
Francis
He didn't even. He went in to do a quad and it just did a single.
Sass
He did a single straight up. Fell on the next one.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
That's so bad. You know, it's going to define his life. Like there's not gonna be a day that ever goes by.
Sass
I mean, it sucks for these.
Francis
Didn't cry, which made me think he might be straight.
Sass
He's straight, I think. Yeah. I think he's one of the straight ones. But you can tell because he never wears like Dune. Yeah, he'll look like Zelda walking out.
Shane Gillis
The straight guys dress like pirates. Pirates of the Caribbean.
Sass
Yeah, literally. It's weird.
Shane Gillis
The gay guys, really gay though. And they have thick asses.
Sass
Yeah, they all big asses.
Ron
So is he quad guy? He's not quad God because he has big quads.
Francis
Because the speed skater from Wisconsin or wherever the he is. Did you see his quads? They had a two side photo. It was his quads versus Saquon Barkley's.
Sass
And his were bigger.
Francis
It was. Yeah, it was almost disgusting.
Shane Gillis
Skaters gay too?
Sass
A little bit, probably. I don't think fully though.
Shane Gillis
If you skate outside of hockey, you're gay.
Ron
Yeah, probably gay.
Francis
Blake.
Sass
I hate. I don't even. I don't even wear skates that aren't hockey skates. Like if I got that spike on the front, I'm sawing it off. I don't want that. I don't want that.
Ron
I didn't even Know there was a difference now how straight I am.
Francis
I think the speed skaters might be.
Shane Gillis
I think they're straight.
Francis
Straight.
Sass
Have you ever seen their skates? They have, like, two blades.
Francis
Scary.
Sass
They have, like, two blades and they're like.
Shane Gillis
I watched. I watched a good one. I was watching the downhill, like, the big, big air jump. Jump.
Sass
Oh, yeah.
Shane Gillis
And a guy just got knocked out. It's pretty great. He landed straight on his back, and then to stretch him out.
Ron
That's so brutal.
Shane Gillis
It just kept showing, like a Norwegian guy with, like, a Viking helmet, like, blown horns. And everyone was like, this guy just landed flat on his back after flying, like, 80ft in the air.
Sass
It is pretty crazy. Like, the nerves must get to them because it's the. The sports that they're competing in are so, like, niche sports.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Sass
And then they, like, 90% of them up brutally. Like, it seems like they barely know.
Francis
How to do it.
Shane Gillis
Like, they're.
Sass
They're like. I think this is how it. How it's done.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
Like, the bobsledding people, the losing. I watch the L. That's like the single person one. They. Every single person up.
Francis
How they just all.
Sass
They just. They're slamming into the sides off the drum.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. Yeah.
Sass
And once you hit the side, once.
Ron
You'Re just done, you're rattling.
Sass
Because then it's like when you get speed wobble. When you're skateboarding now, you're just banging the sides on both ends for the next two minutes.
Ron
The only one I saw was the bro who went in backwards. Was it a Japanese bro or something like that? It was like, the finish. They were doing, like, a simultaneous race one day.
Sass
Oh, the moguls.
Ron
Yeah, I saw that.
Sass
I think that was accident.
Ron
Yeah. But still.
Francis
Still cool.
Ron
Sick.
Sass
Still impressive.
Shane Gillis
These guys would go down the jump backwards, some of them.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Like, the giant ramp down. They would.
Francis
It was hitting it. Switch. Terrifying. Yeah.
Ron
Yeah. It's so nuts.
Sass
You.
Ron
You still skiing? No.
Francis
No.
Sass
We got to get out there. I want to go skiing bad. After watching all this Olympics.
Shane Gillis
The skiing's fun.
Francis
Snow in the west is the worst this year that it's been in many years.
Sass
I heard they got. I heard they got to get dumb and tell Rod this weekend, though. Really not a foot.
Francis
Wow. Okay.
Ron
When we were with finance, he was talking about a snow. A ski trip that you guys took.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, that was. It was. He hit the moguls, and it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. I was. I went to the bottom, and he Was like, I'm gonna hit the movie the Moguls. And I was like, all right. He had no idea where the moguls were. He thought they were ramps that you go off the top of. He just gets to the top, goes off the first one, and just Yard sale everything. He fell on, like, the second ramp.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Had to roll down.
Sass
I did the moguls once on a double black diamond, and I. I hit the first one, flew 30ft into the air. I double ejected from my skis and landed under the. Under the gondola or whatever chairlift. And I got the wind kicked out of me. And so there's people going above me, and I'm laying on the ground, like. And people are like, are you okay? And I'm like.
Francis
It's the altitude.
Shane Gillis
I went skiing once with a girl in Vermont, in Killington, and I was like, I can ski. I didn't skied since. Since eighth grade. We're going up the lift. You can see clouds at the top of the mountain. I was like, holy. And then we got off the lift, and I couldn't ski, so I just fell. I landed, and my one ski was under me, and I was like, I literally. I can't even get up. And she peed her pants.
Sass
Did you actually get taken down on this?
Shane Gillis
No. I figured it out. So long to stand up, I feel.
Ron
Like it'd be so scary because I haven't skied since seventh or eighth grade either. And, like, I would never d. To think that I could ski after that. Like, that. I feel like even your leg muscles would be like.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
By day three, I was. I was about done.
Francis
Were you. You weren't a border?
Shane Gillis
No.
Francis
I can. I can picture you on a snowboard.
Shane Gillis
Really?
Sass
That's crazy. I thought you snowboarded, to be honest.
Shane Gillis
That's. That's absurd.
Sass
I can see it.
Francis
What's the nearest ski mountain to where you grew up?
Shane Gillis
It's a place called Ski Round Top. It was very close. Yeah.
Francis
Was it decent size or.
Shane Gillis
No, it's pretty small. Yeah. That's why I thought I could ski.
Ron
There's the Penn State one that's, like, super tiny. People just rip down it. I know that you've been to some insane one, so I know you dropped off a helicopter in Switzerland or something.
Francis
I've never. I've never done any heli skiing. I'd like to. There's this cool thing now called 11 experiences that does in Iceland. And you ski down to the. To the lake. Oh, wow. So there's, like, just Water in front of you. You hel. Ski fresh track. And then there you stay to watch fresh tracks. Yeah, you stay. You stay in a lodge and they have, like, a chef. And it's a really elevated experience.
Sass
That's pretty sick.
Francis
I'd like to do it.
Shane Gillis
You love the awesome experiences.
Francis
I really do.
Shane Gillis
You do?
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
I see why. That was a great dinner.
Francis
Yeah, that was fun. That was nice.
Shane Gillis
But the book ideas. Just the one I was telling you that you should write.
Ron
Is that your story?
Shane Gillis
No, it's his. But just an exaggerated version.
Ron
No, I'm saying, like, your biography. Because I think Francis has like a.
Shane Gillis
No, I don't want biography. I'm saying he should write a fiction about a guy who should be CIA and looks like a spy. And it's like, at nice places and it's just a buffoon. It's like, oh, there's fresh powder. Takes his shirt off and does push ups. The. Is this guy doing.
Ron
I'm sure. Or a show? Like, you need to write your own vehicle. You gotta get a vehicle.
Shane Gillis
I heard the snow this year is the worst the west has seen. Just does push us.
Francis
I gave up. I gave up on trying to not be myself a long time ago.
Shane Gillis
No, it's nice.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
I think you're great.
Francis
I have to just be me.
Ron
That video you sent us today was hilarious. And it's a good sentiment.
Francis
I thought that there was. I was thinking about how it might. Well, I'm genuinely a little surprised at this point that my name has not come up in the Epstein files. He was at Harvard, heavily involved with. While I was there.
Ron
That means he chose not to invite you to stuff.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, boys get invited.
Francis
I have classmates who are in the files. I have people I know very well.
Shane Gillis
What were you doing that would get you into the files?
Francis
There was a. There was a theatrical group called the Hasty Pudding Theatricals that.
Shane Gillis
It's like them.
Francis
It's like the Lampoon. It's like similar, you know, many, many hundreds of years old or whatever. Whatever theater troupe. They do the whole show in drag. And my. My freshman year roommate was the president of it. And Epstein donated to that group through a guy who was also in the Final Club. He was a major benefactor of the Final Club I was in. What are you donating to the theatricals? Because they travel and they put the show on the road and stuff, but also their production costs and all that.
Sass
They let them use their plane.
Francis
I mean, I would think I would taste their kids. The guy who. The guy who was like, he was donating through who? And this guy. I mean, this guy shows up 150 times.
Sass
That's got to be tough.
Francis
Yeah, but he gave a lot of money to the club that I was a member of.
Sass
I mean, no one said he was bad all the time.
Ron
No, he had great taste in comedy clubs. He loved the Hasty Pudding. Whatever the Hasty Pudding would put on, you would not miss it.
Sass
Dude, they did.
Francis
They had. Every year they had a man and a Woman of the year, and it was always a celebrity. And they would do a parade for them down Mass Ave. Oh, wow. In, like, a Bentley. And it was always in, like, a convertible. And they'd have them seated up, and then the whole cast, all these guys in drag would be, like, around the. The. It was Anne Hathaway and James Franco one year. The next year was Charlize Theron and. And, oh, my God, Christopher Walken. It was a big deal. And I remember the year it was Charlize Theron. I was walking alongside the car and I thought she was the most beautiful person I'd ever seen in my entire life. I've never seen a person like that. I wasn't.
Shane Gillis
I wasn't even drag Secret Service.
Francis
I wasn't. I never.
Shane Gillis
Be really embarrassing if, like, a JFK situation happened. I know everyone's in dresses and Hathaway got her head blown off. And the Hasty Puddings are trying to scoop us back in.
Ron
Pulling, blowing guns for their garters.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Ron
That's nasty. So does that mean that he. He was. Did he see the Hasty Pudding perform? Who, Epstein?
Sass
Jeff.
Francis
Yeah, I'm sure he did.
Ron
So he saw you perform?
Francis
I wasn't in it.
Ron
Oh, got it.
Francis
Got it. I never could because of sports.
Ron
Got it.
Sass
But you would have any. Any other interests.
Francis
He's.
Ron
He's a renaissance.
Francis
You can't, like. You can't look into a building funding or. Or a book there without finding that he had his hands on it somehow.
Ron
I heard you love the acapellas.
Francis
Yeah, I'm sure he did. I mean, dude, he was.
Shane Gillis
I don't think I hate anything more than a acapella, especially a college Harvard acapella group.
Francis
I did audition for the Den and Tonics.
Shane Gillis
Den and Tonics?
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
I mean, that's the Dins. I mean, they've all got final rights.
Shane Gillis
These are, like, bad quizo names. I heard that. A quiz. I'd be like that.
Francis
The Dins and the Crocodillos were the two. The two big groups.
Sass
What was the biggest one?
Francis
Probably the Crocs. I was going to say of the Yale's Whiffin Poof.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. The what?
Francis
The Whiffin Poofs. The Poofs.
Sass
The Whiffin Poofs. And they.
Francis
By the way, the Whiffin Poofs. I mean both the Crocs and the. And the Poofs every year the Whiffin Poofs are only seniors at Yale and they have to take a whole year off from college because if you get into the WIFs. I think this is true. They do a seven continent tour over the course of a year. China, Japan. It's massive.
Ron
It's probably the best time of their life though.
Francis
They get a door deal, they might get paid.
Shane Gillis
They're only seven. Is that Antarctica?
Ron
They're going to Antarctica.
Francis
This was back when Australia was considered a continent.
Shane Gillis
I think it still is.
Francis
Isn't it a. It's a continent and a country though. Yeah.
Ron
No, but New Zealand is part of the continent of Oceania.
Francis
Australasia.
Shane Gillis
Right now it's Australasia.
Francis
I don't know.
Ron
I don't know about that.
Francis
Oceana's from 1984.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, but I think it's still called that.
Francis
Is it right?
Shane Gillis
Yeah. No, isn't it?
Ron
We're getting some nods and some thought.
Sass
It was just Australia. I thought that was the continent.
Shane Gillis
The continent's Australia, but I'm saying it wrong.
Francis
Says both is Oceana from 1984.
Shane Gillis
No, it's.
Francis
What's that one called?
Shane Gillis
I think it's something like that.
Sass
Australasia.
Shane Gillis
I think it was just using that.
Francis
Boy, I'm confused. I don't feel great cuz it had.
Shane Gillis
Too many cocktails at the dinner.
Ron
Super diarrhea that you didn't get out.
Shane Gillis
Do you remember singing? You were blacked out and you're like, shane, I could have been a crocodile.
Ron
How can there be?
Shane Gillis
Oh Francis, you've done it again. I have to go.
Francis
Dude. They perform in. In tails. They wear full tuxedos with tails, green bow ties and white gloves. Like the guy who cut our burger.
Sass
Wait, what are the tails like crocodile tails?
Francis
No, no. Tails are an even more like elevated version of black tie.
Sass
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The long jacket. Yeah, yeah. I thought you meant literal like they wore crocodile tails.
Shane Gillis
No, they should.
Sass
Yeah.
Francis
Do you know that Eaton Boys College, Eaton Preparatory School in England. The where like all the royal family, princes and all that go, they have their. Their outfit for school as middle schoolers is tails.
Sass
Yeah.
Francis
That's awful. They were tales to like science and.
Ron
It'S called Eden Boys. A little on the nose.
Sass
Jesus Christ.
Shane Gillis
Dude, their sister school sucking boys.
Ron
Do you think that there's anybody that just said no to Epstein? It seemed like he had his way.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Rogan had showed me that email, like, a while ago.
Ron
What was the. I didn't see it.
Shane Gillis
I forget exactly who the guy was that invited him, but was like, come meet with these people. And he was like, no.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Weirdos.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
Wasn't it like, after he had already been. Yeah, yeah.
Francis
Trump. Trump was also not. There was a one thing where he was not happy about it.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, I. I remember that. That was before all the new ones came out, but I don't know.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
After years and years of having the time of his life, he finally cut him off.
Sass
Yeah.
Ron
Sometimes like LeBron and Drake.
Shane Gillis
Sometimes you go, bro, we gotta stop chilling. You crazy.
Sass
This is the ninth baby you've eaten this week.
Francis
Got to be.
Shane Gillis
You've had too many babies.
Sass
No, we have guests coming this weekend.
Shane Gillis
Frank, you would have dominated that island.
Sass
Oh, yeah, Running.
Shane Gillis
All right, I'll have one more baby.
Sass
Or no.
Ron
He'd be like, waking people up hungover. He'd be like, I made a fresh round of babies.
Shane Gillis
You won't believe. I dropped the babies on the floor. I blew it. I'm going home. I spilled the baby. Jeffrey, I have to tell you something. I spilled some of the babies earlier.
Francis
I've started calling. I've started calling, like, I do a joke in my set about it, and I call, like, of age, women mainlanders, which I think is pretty funny. Yeah.
Ron
That is damn good. It would have just been nice to get an insult or an invite so you could decline on your own terms.
Francis
Yeah, yeah, that's true. I just. It's crazy.
Sass
Declining is definitely the best spot you could be in right now.
Ron
So if you're on it.
Francis
Yeah, Right.
Sass
Worst spot is Elon Musk.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. It's an embarrassing. Come on, dude.
Sass
Come on, man. I'm looking for a good night. He's like. He's. He's like. He's like, I'm not looking for any relaxed night. I'm looking for your wildest night. And then the reply is like, we've actually decided to cancel the weekends.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
On Christmas Day.
Francis
Sorry, Elon, we're closed for a private event. Yeah.
Shane Gillis
You know how brutal that hang must be if pedophiles are like, I'm not gonna a kid this weekend.
Sass
Yeah.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
I'm gonna take a weekend off.
Sass
Oh, Elon's coming. I'll go to Diddy's party.
Ron
I'll just have kids at Home just ordering kids. Him and Dershowitz, they were killing Alan Dershowitz. They're like, this guy's brutal, shitty hanging.
Sass
But it does make you wonder, like, Woody Allen, was he just like. Like everyone? It seemed like everyone loved Woody Allen. No one had a bad thing to say about him.
Shane Gillis
Was he at the island?
Sass
Oh, lived there.
Ron
He's the worst. I can't get on board with any of his movies. I hate all of his movies.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. I don't really like him.
Ron
Even the, like, Midnight in Paris, the ones that he's not even in.
Francis
I liked Midnight in Paris.
Shane Gillis
I was gay when that came out.
Sass
I love that movie.
Shane Gillis
That's so.
Francis
Depiction of Hemingway is really good. It's really funny.
Ron
What if I ran into all the heroes?
Shane Gillis
I watched it again when I was older, and I was like, this shit's gay.
Sass
I think I watched it again recently, and I was like, still holds up.
Francis
Yeah. I watched it on the flight home from Paris and I was like, that was the exact experience I had.
Sass
Yeah.
Ron
Who are the other, like, ghosts that he runs into?
Francis
F. Scott Fitzgerald, Gertrude Stein. It's all the Lost generation writers, but famously. Did you read Movable Feast?
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Francis
There's that scene where he goes to. He goes to Gertrude Stein's house, and he's hanging out in the house waiting for her, and he hears her having sex with another woman. And he alludes to it in a Movable Feast, but in a very veiled way. And I think it, like, shook him because I don't know if he knew that she was getting gay. Yeah.
Shane Gillis
That would throw you off.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
I told you, when I read Sun Also Rises, I didn't know. First time I read it, I didn't know his dick got blown off.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
He's in the whole book I'm reading. I'm like, what the is the hold up here?
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Why doesn't he just get with this girl? They keep saying how much they love each other.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
That's what that book's about.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. What is his dick out.
Ron
Is that Obama's favorite book or something like that?
Shane Gillis
It's a good book, but the first time I read it, I was very confused.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Then I reread it, and it's really early in the book, you find out about it, and I was like, somehow I missed that chapter.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
And then was mad the entire book.
Francis
What's her name again that that woman calls her by her last name. And it's like, I think. And it's something very boy's name. Yeah. Yeah. Can we look that up. What is it?
Shane Gillis
Brett. Brett.
Francis
Brett. Yeah. Good memory. Yeah.
Sass
Brett's a tough girl's name. That's like a tough man's name.
Shane Gillis
No, you really like Brett when you read the book?
Francis
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She saw it, but she's with another guy and it's kind of tragic. And the other guy's a doofus. And she admits that, but she won't be with the protagonist because he's impotent, because he's.
Sass
What's the guy? What's the other guy's name? Ashley.
Shane Gillis
No, but they're all like. They're all like Harvard guys. He's a Jewish guy that was a boxer or something.
Francis
Yeah, yeah, but that part, the Paris part of that is quick.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Francis
And then he goes down to. To Spain.
Shane Gillis
You'd like it. I think there's some fishing in it.
Francis
Yeah, there's a lot of fishing.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Sass
I'm dying to get on the water. It's been too long.
Ron
You ever go fly fishing?
Shane Gillis
No. My dad did. I. I didn't have it.
Ron
He took us. It was. I mean, it was brutal for me.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
I think it sucks.
Ron
He didn't say a word about what to do. But I want to try it again. You could just.
Shane Gillis
Regular fishing's fun.
Sass
Regular fishing's fun.
Francis
You gotta go. You gotta go in New Zealand.
Ron
You gotta go.
Shane Gillis
I'm not going to New Zealand. Fly fishing here, it's good there.
Francis
It's the best.
Shane Gillis
Best.
Sass
It is.
Francis
It is the best there is.
Sass
Maybe Iceland or Patagonia could.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
But it's definitely the. One of the best, if not the best. You know what's funny? That photo that everyone's making fun of of Dave with that fish. That fish, the A permit. It's like the hardest fish in the world to catch.
Ron
Yeah. You were steaming, man.
Sass
I was fired up when I saw people were like making fun of him. I was like, what are they making.
Shane Gillis
Fun of shitty fish or something?
Ron
Body.
Sass
They were making fun of his body and the size of the fish. They were like tiny ass fish.
Ron
I thought his obliques looked great.
Shane Gillis
Great.
Ron
He had one oblique that was back me up on this franchise.
Sass
I mean, he.
Ron
One oblique that looked nice.
Francis
I only looked at the fish.
Sass
I didn't think his bod looks that bad. Nor does it mean real.
Ron
I think it looked fine.
Sass
I hope I look like that when I'm 50.
Ron
Right. That's what I mean. People are bodying.
Sass
Yeah. I have tits now.
Ron
At 25. Not drinking.
Sass
Yeah. I can't imagine what 30 more years is going to look like Harry's gonna be.
Francis
You're gonna be so slouched at 50 that you're like, gonna just have to roll down the street.
Sass
I know I'm gonna have to.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, you're gonna roll. Like upstairs at the stand in 25 years. The room's getting better. They put a curtain in.
Sass
It is pretty bad.
Ron
This is his body.
Francis
That's.
Ron
It's a man's body. It's not a bad body, a man's body. Look at his left oblique or his right oblique. Left in the picture. That's a nice looking oblique. A fine oblique.
Shane Gillis
Right.
Sass
Not to mention the permit that he got.
Francis
Oblique mill over here.
Sass
We're really glossing over. Like, I would be. I would never stop talking about it if I caught that fish.
Ron
Why is it hard to catch?
Sass
They're just really hard to catch. I don't know why.
Francis
Is that how you hold it?
Sass
If it's dead? If it's alive, Definitely not.
Ron
Dead.
Francis
Now.
Ron
That'S damn impressive, but I want to get. We got to get back out. I just want to.
Sass
You know, I think that was like that, honestly, was probably the last time I went fishing.
Ron
Really?
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Ron
We gotta get back.
Francis
What. What are. Are you thinking about doing any international tours again?
Shane Gillis
No. Ireland and England. Those are sick.
Francis
You would never want to go play, like a big theater in Paris or a non English speaking country maybe.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. I don't know.
Francis
Is there a market for you in Argentina?
Shane Gillis
I doubt it.
Francis
Huh?
Shane Gillis
I doubt Argentina. I mean, I heard there's some villages there that might like my shit. There's a couple towns in there.
Ron
Who knows how they got there.
Francis
That would be cool.
Shane Gillis
I mean, I know South America.
Sass
You don't think you could do Brazil?
Shane Gillis
No, I'm doing the halftime show, the world Brazilian Championship.
Francis
What I was gonna say isn't, I saw some of the places that Louie's going, and I was like, boy, I feel like they're. I'm surprised.
Shane Gillis
There's a lot of English speaking in Europe, for sure.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
I think he's going to Japan. He's doing India, isn't he?
Sass
Didn't he do Ukraine, like, when the war started?
Shane Gillis
That was, like, right at the beginning.
Sass
He was there.
Shane Gillis
I don't think he went. Yeah, I could be wrong there, because I remember talking to them at the Cellar about it.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Because he was taking Adrian and.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
She was like, I don't know if I should. If I should tell him not to.
Francis
I was like.
Shane Gillis
I remember being like, russia's not gonna Do. I was like, they're just talking.
Ron
Years later, there's no boys left over there.
Sass
I went to a restaurant the other day, like, Velseca.
Shane Gillis
This friend gave me a gift.
Sass
Velka. And I was looking around, and I was like, why do they got all this Ukraine up still? And then I was like, oh, it's a Ukrainian restaurant.
Ron
We moved on.
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Is.
Sass
Feels like, dude.
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Ron
Begging it.
Sass
They haven't updated their decorations.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
That's brutal. How was the food?
Sass
It was good.
Ron
I don't think I've ever had any Ukrainian.
Sass
They.
Francis
They do.
Sass
They do, like, breakfast food.
Ron
Where did.
Shane Gillis
See you later.
Ron
Where did you and Francis go after. After 4 Charles last night?
Shane Gillis
Fiddlesticks.
Sass
No, really?
Shane Gillis
Yeah.
Sass
That's crazy guy. That's like a high school kid bar.
Shane Gillis
Well, it was just right across the street.
Sass
We used to live right next to there. Used to go there, like, every weekend. Yeah, when I was 19.
Francis
Pretty fun.
Sass
Not a bad bar.
Shane Gillis
No, it was good.
Sass
Solid pub. Especially on a Sunday night.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, it was empty.
Sass
Yeah. Good time. Good time.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. Had a couple beers. That's when I realized he was obliterated.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Yeah, he's, like, dressed all nice.
Sass
That's like. Have you ever seen when Rowan gets hammered?
Francis
Armored.
Sass
A couple times, like, 30 seconds prior. You're having, like, a normal conversation, and then you go back and he's blacked out, and you're like, what. What happened in the last minute?
Francis
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
That's a really good. That's really good.
Francis
At the.
Sass
When you. When you did the cold open for SNL and we went to that party after, I remember, like, I went to the bathroom or something. I came back and Rome was just.
Ron
Hammered.
Shane Gillis
Was that what you were talking about? Like, Seth Rogen?
Ron
Yeah, we were doing magic with Seth Rogen.
Sass
He kept on poking Seth roll with Seth Rogen.
Ron
He was so nice.
Shane Gillis
Awesome.
Sass
Oh, yeah. He was cool.
Shane Gillis
Frank, what are you up to?
Francis
I got. Got something cool. I don't mean to interrupt.
Sass
No, no.
Ron
You got a breath.
Shane Gillis
So we do run downstairs.
Francis
It's Monday. We do present Monday.
Shane Gillis
Okay.
Francis
Presents on Monday. And I got some presents.
Shane Gillis
Challenge coins.
Francis
These are from Stephen. Stephen's a bomb tech. What? In the army. So these are challenge coins. That's his squadron. What? He gave us one.
Ron
Wait, this is just. Were these just for you?
Francis
Well, no, he got one for both of you two. But since Harry doesn't value gifts, I think Harry should give his to Shane.
Shane Gillis
Harry. You can put that next to your Call of Duty thing. That's like a real gamer.
Francis
Yeah, it Is true.
Ron
Yeah. Put it on your vest.
Francis
And then these are. This is his. These are his patches. That's yours. Hurt Locker, Hurt Locker type stuff.
Sass
Oh, I'll take one of those. Real guys, get one of those patches.
Francis
Cool, huh?
Sass
Give me the bomb one.
Ron
What's the Stolen Valley?
Shane Gillis
You can wear that to the stand. That could be your patch.
Ron
It's like a helmet at Ohio state.
Shane Gillis
Luck, guys.
Ron
26 bombs.
Sass
Sick. I'm gonna start just PR. Like anytime I have to go, like a wedding, I just start pressing this on, just rocking it.
Francis
How cool is that challenge? That's a pretty cool one, right?
Ron
So what does he get them from?
Francis
Well, in the military, you. You get a challenge coin and it's like, Shane, you can probably. I don't. What's.
Shane Gillis
I'm not sure.
Francis
It's like a.
Ron
Is it like once you've done something good?
Francis
No, I think. Oh, I don't know. I think it's part of. Just like it represents the squadron you're in or whatever. But I know that the Marine Corps at least, like, I have one from my buddy Luke. And when they're out drinking, if someone says, like, I'm coining you, and they bring out their coin, if you don't have yours on you, you have to like, pay for the drinks or something like that.
Sass
You should go to like a veterans bar and pull that.
Francis
Do you see anything about challenge coins?
Sass
Yeah, you just said it exactly. It represents specific groups and a ritual where you slap.
Ron
So we can slap this down now and we can demand drinks from veterans.
Francis
Coin someone.
Sass
Yeah, yeah.
Shane Gillis
Force bomb guy.
Ron
Yeah.
Francis
Yeah.
Ron
You're gonna.
Sass
You're telling me you don't recognize this?
Shane Gillis
Where'd you see.
Ron
Where'd you do your pt?
Sass
I do missions.
Shane Gillis
This is a funny phrase for a bomb squad group. Initial success or total failure? Yeah, I guess.
Ron
Yeah, it really describes it.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
Have you ever seen the. That stolen valor video of the dude in the mall?
Shane Gillis
They're always in the mall. That's great.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
And he's like, one of the guy's with like his kid and he's like. He's like, what did. What did you. What was your focused in the military? It's like mostly missions. I pretty much just strictly did missions.
Shane Gillis
There was a guy that came to just remind me of the story. This guy came to Helium one night. It was a good move. He emailed the headliner and the club separately.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
And was like, I'm an opener for this headliner. And then he emailed, the headliner was like, I'm I'm the opener from the club. So everyone was on board and was like, this guy's the feature. And he had never done stand up in his life. And it reminded me of the stolen valley thing because the owner of the club was like, where do you want the light? And he was like, just on me. They were like, what? And then they said he went out and did one minute. Was like, this is harder than I thought.
Sass
That's a crazy move, emailing the booker and the. And the good move.
Ron
Yeah.
Sass
That's insane.
Ron
It's genius. But also sociopath.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. You got to be a complete psycho. I'm going to be good at standing.
Francis
Yeah.
Sass
And a show host.
Shane Gillis
I'll do 25.
Sass
Yeah. He's featuring. He's chilling in the green room while the host is on.
Shane Gillis
Yeah. And Jerry, the guy runs Healing.
Sass
Yeah.
Shane Gillis
His, like, he was like. I knew we were. When I asked him about the light, he said, just keep it on me. The spotlight.
Francis
I was telling Shane and I told you. But Batavia, Illinois, has one of the best comedy clubs in the country.
Sass
Yeah.
Francis
Yeah. The comedy vault is unbelievable.
Sass
Yeah.
Francis
It's just like. I had no idea. Idea. Top to bottom.
Sass
I gotta get out there.
Francis
Fantastic.
Sass
I gotta get out there stat.
Ron
Yeah, we gotta get sass out there. You're gonna love it. How far from Chicago is it?
Sass
45 from O'. Hare.
Francis
Yeah. It's like an hour and 20 in traffic. Hour and a half. They do things so well. There's so many little things. They don't drop checks until you're done with your headlining set.
Sass
Yeah. That is nice.
Francis
Just so nice.
Ron
But as a fan, it's tough to get out of there. I'll be honest. You're really slowing us down.
Francis
Maybe so.
Ron
Common men.
Francis
Maybe so. So. If that club can do that, though, it does make me wonder why every club doesn't do it.
Sass
Because they wanted the show to be over and they want to go home.
Francis
Well, they turned the room over for the late show in 20 minutes because I thought it would be like, okay, well, maybe they. They need to turn the room.
Shane Gillis
You can ask.
Francis
You can ask them to do that.
Shane Gillis
You can try. Yeah.
Francis
Have you. You've done.
Shane Gillis
I did that. Yeah.
Ron
He hasn't been in a club in a minute.
Francis
No, I know.
Sass
No. No one yelling for hot dogs while I'm on.
Shane Gillis
A dog. Oh, my God.
Ron
All right, I think we're good. Yeah.
Shane Gillis
Nice.
Ron
Thank you, brother.
Sass
Thank you so much.
Shane Gillis
Love seeing the growth of the pod, dude.
Ron
Thank you.
Shane Gillis
You guys are killing.
Ron
Yeah. Thank you for king making us by coming on.
Sass
We appreciate that. Remember last time you were on? So long ago.
Ron
We were. We were all hungover and I think the whole time we're like, like. So what was it like getting kicked off?
Shane Gillis
Yeah, yeah. I had a good like three year podcast run. What was it like?
Ron
We were even self aware. We're like. We're not going to ask you, but what was it like?
Sass
Yeah, well, you got anything you want to promote?
Shane Gillis
No tires in a couple months?
Sass
Hell yeah.
Ron
Really?
Francis
Don't look at me.
Shane Gillis
Me, maybe, I don't know. We're working on it.
Ron
Love it.
Shane Gillis
See if we can get some frank in there.
Ron
That be sick.
Sass
Yeah.
Ron
Hell yes. Appreciate you, brother.
Sass
Thank you guys for listening. We'll see you on Thursday. Goodbye.
Shane Gillis
That sucked. That sucked. Close was over still still underground so.
Francis
I looked older to you.
Shane Gillis
Came I was only falling one way I was only falling one way Days were drifting. More than you listen now I come alive I was only falling one way I was only falling one way I was only falling one way I was only falling away that is to your eyes did you realize no one can take me alive.
Sass
I was only falling one away.
Shane Gillis
Sam.
Francis
Did you realize.
Shane Gillis
No one could take me alive?
Date: February 17, 2026
Host(s): Rone (Adam Ferrone), Lil Sasquatch (Harry), Francis Ellis
Guest: Shane Gillis
In this lively episode, comedian Shane Gillis returns to "Son of a Boy Dad." The group dives into stories of drinking and dining in New York, comedic mishaps, the social dynamics of gaming and aging, pop culture oddities, and high-society satire. The conversation is classic Barstool: irreverent, self-deprecating, and packed with observational humor. Shane’s banter with Francis and the crew spans everything from nuclear anxieties to Harvard acapella lore, with raucous asides and honest reflections on the trials of young adulthood and comedy.
Shane Gillis on Gaming and Maturity (03:08):
“Call of Duty…he was telling me he’s gonna stop smoking weed ‘cause he’s not that good. That’s the most loser—I really gotta make some changes.”
Francis on $6K Espresso Machine (10:13):
“When I finally got it all assembled, I literally thought like, I would take a bullet for this machine.”
Rock, Paper, Scissors Etiquette (05:23):
“We did Rock, paper scissors for the bill. Shane was standing up to take. Like, he really wanted to do you.”
Shane on The Stand Comedy Club (33:02):
“I was just bombing…and the whole show just stopped for everyone to get their pizza.”
Sass Describing Olympic Fashion (47:07):
“You can tell because he never wears like Dune. Yeah, he’ll look like Zelda walking out.”
On Fake Comic 'Stolen Valor' (73:58):
“This guy came to Helium…never done stand up in his life. The owner was like, where do you want the light? And he was like, just on me.”
The tone is up-tempo, sardonic, and very much “boys at the bar.” The episode features friendly ribbing, self-exposure, and a willingness to digress into weird or uncomfortable territory for the sake of the bit. Francis’s erudition collides with Ron and Sass’s dry, bro-y takes, moderated by Shane’s blue-collar, slightly detached perspective.
For new and returning listeners, this episode is a showcase of why “Son of a Boy Dad” resonates: camaraderie, wicked banter, and a transparent look at what it means to be a guy muddling through comedy, adulthood, and modern culture. Shane Gillis’s presence not only brings a steadying comedic voice but inspires the gang to push their stories and bits further. A must-listen for fans of unfiltered, conversational humor.