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Francis Ellis
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Harry Shuttleworth
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Harry Shuttleworth
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Francis Ellis
You good?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, good.
Can't see out of one eye.
Roan Shuttleworth
All righty. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy Dad Podcast. Today it is December 8th.
Monday, 1:35pm.
And we are here live from HQ.
Harry Shuttleworth
The Mayor of Stuy town, Stuyvesant. Yeah, I got a sty that is truly aids. Yeah, it's just AIDS on the right side of my face.
Francis Ellis
Does it hurt?
Harry Shuttleworth
Hurts so much.
Roan Shuttleworth
What is poppet?
Harry Shuttleworth
I think it's just a piece of bacteria or something that gets on.
Roan Shuttleworth
It's from when you're eating ass.
Harry Shuttleworth
That would make sense.
Roan Shuttleworth
You've been eating ass.
Harry Shuttleworth
Boston dude. Tell you what.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, you're eating ass in Boston.
Harry Shuttleworth
Eating a lot.
Roan Shuttleworth
Like you don't have two stars.
Harry Shuttleworth
Back Bay booty.
Francis Ellis
Yeah. Tight skinny jeans.
Harry Shuttleworth
Beacon Hill butthole. They have the best seafood, so it's all clean up there. Oh, all the women eat seafood so that, that comes out nice and clean now.
Francis Ellis
Right now, Chicago, a steakhouse town has some of the most. Got to have some rancid ass out there.
Harry Shuttleworth
Milwaukee has really wet women's butthole. Ew, nasty cheese curds. They don't know how to wipe correctly.
Francis Ellis
And the cheese.
Harry Shuttleworth
And the cheese.
Francis Ellis
And the steak.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, and the cheese.
Francis Ellis
And like the kielbasa.
Harry Shuttleworth
Big heavy sort of like German immigrant influenced food.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, beer cheese.
Francis Ellis
Beer cheese ass. Yeah, that's. Everybody's walking around there. Double blind surveys. They just have two styles simultaneously.
Harry Shuttleworth
You guys hold it down for two minutes. I need to get something. I forgot that I was going to get. Yes, you just talk to each other. I'll be right back. I'm sorry. I forgot about this.
Francis Ellis
You got it. Of course, if he comes back with another style, I'll be very disappointed. I just had to grab this. You're thinking of conjunctivitis with eating ass.
Roan Shuttleworth
Pink eye conjunctivitis. But it's the same exact fucking thing, is it not?
Francis Ellis
You're thinking of folliculitis. No, I think a sty is biblical.
Roan Shuttleworth
I thought it's both. They're both just bacteria in your eyes.
Francis Ellis
Is it?
Roan Shuttleworth
I think so. Feel like one of them just hits the lid and one of them hits the ball.
Francis Ellis
Is that really what it is?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
Have you had one before?
Roan Shuttleworth
Sty? Yeah, I've had like four since I've started working at barstool.
Francis Ellis
I don't remember that. I don't remember your styes.
Harry Shuttleworth
That.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh yeah. I had to wear shades on the yak a couple times.
Francis Ellis
Oh, okay. Because of your sty.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, see I got one. I think I got one last year.
Francis Ellis
I feel like pink eyes. Much more shameful than a sty, I think. Feel like pink eyes. Like a suggestion of an unclean lifestyle.
Roan Shuttleworth
I think pink eye is so much better than a sty.
Francis Ellis
Really? From a pain point.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. Pink eye, you can get the drops and it goes away in a day.
Francis Ellis
But you're just leaking. You're leaking pus.
Roan Shuttleworth
Same with a sty though.
Francis Ellis
He's leaking pus right now.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
How contagious is it? Super styes are. I thought you just said it was bacteria. I thought it was like a fucking. Like a wound.
Roan Shuttleworth
Touch his eye with your eye.
Francis Ellis
Fuck. I'm going to be seeing eye to eye with my brother Francis today.
Roan Shuttleworth
It's only contagious. Eye to eye.
Francis Ellis
So he was ball to ball with someone?
Roan Shuttleworth
I guess so.
Francis Ellis
He was smearing his balls with another man or woman Child. Congrats on this weekend. The bush.
Roan Shuttleworth
Of course. Of course. Big Bush. 10,000 big, big things happening in the Bush world.
Francis Ellis
10,000 concurrence. Big victory. And some bubble wrap.
Roan Shuttleworth
Francis got some bubble wrap.
Harry Shuttleworth
That's for my eye.
Roan Shuttleworth
For your eye.
Harry Shuttleworth
They say that when you place bubble wrap around your face, you would you bring in the gland. Well, I have a present for you.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, again?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
Tonica, this is overwhelming.
Harry Shuttleworth
Just think that you're a guy who deserves a present every eight episodes of.
Francis Ellis
Presents for every week.
Harry Shuttleworth
You're like a girl. I want to. And you're just hold. You're holding out. So I'm going to keep buying you things until you realize, shower him.
Francis Ellis
He's your muse.
Harry Shuttleworth
Life could be better with me. And then as soon as you commit to me, no more presents.
Francis Ellis
Don't tell me it's an eighth of Jack Herrera for him.
Harry Shuttleworth
O. I wish.
Well, I do think we. I wanted to celebrate this moment, this magical moment where you finally came out and shared your truth.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, my God. Which is this has been all this has been last 48 hours.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. Well, you know, you finally. You said you came out of the. The closet. You came out of the proverbials.
Roan Shuttleworth
Come out of any closet.
Harry Shuttleworth
You came out of a closet.
Roan Shuttleworth
I was born out of the closet.
Harry Shuttleworth
You came out of a storage bin. No, you came out of like a hidden door, secondary compartment.
Roan Shuttleworth
You got me mixed up with somebody.
Harry Shuttleworth
Else on the other side of. What did you.
Roan Shuttleworth
What did you get? Is it like a bong or something? No, it definitely is.
Harry Shuttleworth
Why don't you go ahead and unwrap that?
Francis Ellis
Come. Come on. The cousin. Walk with us, brother. Come finally walk with your cousins.
Harry Shuttleworth
If we could get in real tight on this in the edit, that'd be awesome. Is that an easy thing to do before you get it open there? We'll get in real tight. We'll get in real.
Roan Shuttleworth
This is sick.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, let's get real. What is this for Real tight. Well, this is some sort of glass.
Roan Shuttleworth
I ordered an Xbox card. I didn't order this.
Harry Shuttleworth
This is.
Roan Shuttleworth
That's a classic if you get the reference.
Harry Shuttleworth
Hand blown glass out of master glass makers out of Maine. Our friend. Courtesy of our dear friends at Blue Lobster Cannabis Company, Hayden and the boys.
Francis Ellis
Hold it up for the.
Harry Shuttleworth
Karen says this is a beautiful.
Roan Shuttleworth
Not familiar with how this works.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's a. It's a trout.
Yeah, it's a. It's not a brown, though. What is that?
Roan Shuttleworth
I don't know what it is.
Harry Shuttleworth
What kind of a fish. It's a trout.
Roan Shuttleworth
To be honest. This is insane.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's super cool. 500 now. Truly. And they don't. They bought it for you to give to you.
Roan Shuttleworth
Who's they?
Harry Shuttleworth
These boys, These guys. The Blue Lobster. The group that gave us all the really good weed up in upstate that you took some of the stuff you saw.
Francis Ellis
Yeah. The black maple you swore never to talk about publicly, but then you came out of the closet as a full blown Cheech and Chonger.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. I said my boy needs the best now that he is a spokesperson for the marijuana industry.
Roan Shuttleworth
Does crack work through this? Smoke crack out of that?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, you would. You would like that, wouldn't you? Gateway man over here. I mean, look at Gateway computers over here.
Francis Ellis
Beautiful.
Roan Shuttleworth
It is honestly, like insane.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's a stunning, stunning piece of art.
Francis Ellis
And I wouldn't even want to smoke out of that.
Harry Shuttleworth
No. I figured Harry Might, you know, throw a little beaded bracelet through it and put it up on his Christmas tree as an ornament or wear it as a necklace. Could do.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. Yeah, definitely wear it around my neck.
Francis Ellis
500 on my neck and it's a fucking fish bong, dude.
Harry Shuttleworth
I liked this so much that I was hesitant to give it to you. Sure enough, you came out and said, I need to get my life together. I'm smoking tons of weed. You already.
Roan Shuttleworth
Well, that's not exactly what. That's not word for word.
Harry Shuttleworth
I said, okay, well, now he needs a proper vessel through which to imbibe his beloved partake.
Roan Shuttleworth
This is really cool.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
Give us like a kind of like, show us. Show us how it would be. Like, what would it look like if you were smoking? Like, pretend there's actually weed in there, like.
Roan Shuttleworth
Well, I smoke tobacco. Pipe tobacco pretty much.
Will do. Good for the pipe.
Francis Ellis
Show us the first hit though, bro. Just. What do you go mouth to mouth with the bass typically?
Roan Shuttleworth
Get some matches going.
Francis Ellis
Okay.
Harry Shuttleworth
Loose leaf tobacco out of a water pipe.
Francis Ellis
Oh, boy. That's such a nice gift.
Roan Shuttleworth
Insane. Yeah, the, like, the colors are, the sparkles.
Harry Shuttleworth
Come on. What kind of a fish is that?
Roan Shuttleworth
I genuinely don't know.
Harry Shuttleworth
Do we not know what type of a fish?
Roan Shuttleworth
It's a green. It looks like it would be some sort of trout.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's a trout for sure.
Roan Shuttleworth
But they typically don't have holes in the side of them like this.
Harry Shuttleworth
Well, if you use a big enough hook.
Then you could certainly puncture the fish.
Roan Shuttleworth
This is sick.
Harry Shuttleworth
May I see it really quick?
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, of course.
Francis Ellis
Have you inspected it? Have you fingered that down?
Harry Shuttleworth
I have not tried it. I'm just.
Roan Shuttleworth
It's like genuinely like. Like it's a piece of art.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. Wow.
Francis Ellis
It's crazy that people can do this with stunning. I think there was like a Netflix glassblowing show that I watched a season of and it was amazing what they are able to do. But is the primary.
Skill of a glassblower bong making?
Roan Shuttleworth
I think we talked about this recently and I think we had a lot of glassblowers saying it's not.
Francis Ellis
What else do they do?
Harry Shuttleworth
They make stemware. So, you know, wine glasses and champagne stuff and all that. They make light bulbs.
Francis Ellis
Hand blown light bulbs.
Harry Shuttleworth
Well, that's all glass. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it's hand blown.
Francis Ellis
There's just Amish people and fucking the GE factory blowing glass, dude.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's pretty amazing what the process of glass is. I've said this before, given how ubiquitous glass is. Meaning ubiquitous. Oh, everywhere.
Roan Shuttleworth
I lost that one.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's everywhere. Glass is everywhere.
Francis Ellis
It's ubiquitous.
Harry Shuttleworth
And yet the process of making glass, as far as I can tell, is not the easiest thing in the world.
Roan Shuttleworth
Isn't it just coal and sand in the furnace.
Harry Shuttleworth
You might be right.
How do you make a window?
Roan Shuttleworth
I'm killing right now.
Harry Shuttleworth
Killing yourself?
Roan Shuttleworth
I'm pulling deep references. That's a Minecraft reference. That's the recipe for glass.
Francis Ellis
You'Re crushing. He spends one day on stream and he comes back talking full gamer lingo. Oh, I fucking get it, bro.
Harry Shuttleworth
My eye hurts so much, I can't even think about anything.
Roan Shuttleworth
Let me give you a couple tips.
Harry Shuttleworth
Please.
Roan Shuttleworth
We've been through this before for the sty.
Harry Shuttleworth
I've talked about this before. We've had. I've had them on the pod. I'm good for about four a year. I don't know if I'm like, rubbing my eyes with the hands of a child for a year, some grubby child, but I'm good for about four a year.
Roan Shuttleworth
Were you visiting your friend's children yesterday?
Harry Shuttleworth
No, I just. It was. The week in Boston was so, like, grueling. I knew this was going to happen.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, you think they're, like, stressed eyes?
Harry Shuttleworth
I think it's just like being out too late, being around a lot of people. Like.
Also, I think that I sleep with a sleep mask on and I worry that if I don't wash that enough. Yeah, the. Whatever. Maybe the sweat from it or something touching my eye. I'm not sure.
Roan Shuttleworth
That could definitely be. Is it one of the ones that touches your eyes or do you have the gap?
Harry Shuttleworth
I want there to be a gap, but I also want it to be tight enough that it doesn't fall off my face while I'm sleeping so often.
Francis Ellis
What fabric are we talking?
Harry Shuttleworth
I don't know. Polyurethane. Glass.
Roan Shuttleworth
Glass.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's made of.
Roan Shuttleworth
I'll get you a good sam hole. I'm a big eye mask.
Harry Shuttleworth
Are you. Do you sleep with an eye mask?
Roan Shuttleworth
Yes, I do.
Harry Shuttleworth
Really?
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. I started when I went to Iceland because I bought eye masks. Everyone was like, it's not going to get dark. And it didn't. And I was the only one that used. My friends didn't use them. I bought it for everybody. That was a nice gesture.
Harry Shuttleworth
That is a nice gesture.
Francis Ellis
You know, girls are. Girls are rocking with, like a puffy ones.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
Like, there's, like, ones that aren't even of the same, like, strap and.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, yeah.
Francis Ellis
Like, guide Material like lavender scented like. Like they barely like touch you. It's like sleeping on a cloud. Francis. As a. As a high taste man.
Harry Shuttleworth
I don't know what to do.
Roan Shuttleworth
We got to get you like a leather one.
Francis Ellis
We need to get you a nice.
Harry Shuttleworth
The end of my goddamn rope right now.
Francis Ellis
The man in The Iron Mask 1. Why are you at the end of your rope? You're fucking.
Roan Shuttleworth
Because the style I hurt.
Harry Shuttleworth
I've been so fucking much. And like you move your face though. I need to stop making expressions.
Roan Shuttleworth
I have prescription topical shit forced us.
Harry Shuttleworth
I think I do too, but I think. Okay. What is it?
Roan Shuttleworth
I can give it to you. I don't know what it is.
Harry Shuttleworth
You have it right now?
Roan Shuttleworth
No, it's at my apartment, but I.
Francis Ellis
Could get go get it.
Harry Shuttleworth
You're not. You don't let me come over there.
Roan Shuttleworth
Well, if you came over, I would.
Harry Shuttleworth
Give it to you, but you stay outside.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yes, absolutely.
Harry Shuttleworth
Because you don't want me to bring my sty inside.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, I'm not looking to get infected.
Harry Shuttleworth
Well, something tells me that, you know, if you are not getting styes in your apartment, you must be immune.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, I've gotten plenty of stars built.
Harry Shuttleworth
Up an immunity because if that your apartment is a sty breeding ground.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
What is it? What's the recipe for? How did you get yours? Because he was saying that it's bacterially Pass. Pass along. It's like from. From dirt. You think that?
Harry Shuttleworth
I really don't know. I mean, I. I feel it coming ass. No, you're thinking of pink eye, dude.
Roan Shuttleworth
Isn't it the same thing? Like, isn't it. Don't you get it the exact same way?
Francis Ellis
Maybe you can't keep doubling down.
Roan Shuttleworth
I think it's like the. I think you get it the same way.
Francis Ellis
I don't think it is.
Roan Shuttleworth
I could be wrong.
Francis Ellis
Pink eyes. Yeah. That's like.
Roan Shuttleworth
I always thought it was just like.
Francis Ellis
It's like from poop in urine, but. And like.
Harry Shuttleworth
Oh, well, you didn't say urine. I've been getting golden showers for weeks. Why didn't you say that? I thought it was just butt. I was like, no, I haven't been near that.
Doused.
Roan Shuttleworth
Welcome home pissed on in Boston.
Harry Shuttleworth
Blowing my hair back.
Francis Ellis
Damn. How was it up there?
Harry Shuttleworth
Power washing my forehead, dude. Boston, all right.
Roan Shuttleworth
Skin is glad to have been freezing.
Harry Shuttleworth
One day it was pretty cold. One day it was like 40. Let me say this. I don't know when this happened, but Boston is a fancy fucking city.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, big time, dude.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's fancy. I don't remember it being that way. And it is from the. From the apartment buildings to the really nice. Obviously. I was in Beacon Hill. I walked around there, which is like the most charming, stunning neighborhood I've ever seen in any city in the world. I can't think of a more beautiful. Acorn Street, Chestnut Street. They have these little, like, parks that you don't even walk in. They're. They're. They're just for, you know, centerpieces for gazing. Yeah. Cobblestone streets. Beautiful. Truly, truly beautiful. Very close to Boston Common, which was. They had done the lighting ceremony. Ceremony. And there's a pond in there that you can. It says, skate at your own risk. There's no oversight as to whether the ice is thick enough or not for people to skate. You can just go out onto the ice.
Roan Shuttleworth
I like that.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
America.
Harry Shuttleworth
And no homeless in sight. I think the cold sterilizes them from the streets.
Roan Shuttleworth
I mean, yeah, they probably die that pure.
Harry Shuttleworth
Those puritan winds that are blowing through and forcing them to. I don't know where they go.
Roan Shuttleworth
I feel like the homeless in Boston are a little bit more.
Harry Shuttleworth
Tight. I think they stay together. I think that the homeless in Boston, when they have that sign that says just need money for bus fare, they're being honest.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
I think they fuck as soon as they get it. They. They do leave.
Francis Ellis
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
And they go to Tampa or Den or. Or San Diego or whatever.
Francis Ellis
That sounds amazing. It's a. It is like a very. It's European almost.
Harry Shuttleworth
The.
Francis Ellis
The layout of the city. It feels like you're in Europe.
Harry Shuttleworth
Feels like Geneva.
Francis Ellis
Yeah, it's just like, old, but, like, well laid out. Thoughtfully laid out, bro.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's clean. It's super clean. So clean in Boston. And I told my buddies this in my group chat, and they're all kind of. They all lean pretty far, right? And they're like, well, they got that communist mayor. It's like. Well, I don't. Whatever the mayor's doing is fucking working. Because it was the cleanest city. The public transportation ran really, really well. I love the fact you've taken public transportation, dude. I had.
Roan Shuttleworth
Took the tea.
Harry Shuttleworth
I had an awesome time. The Harvard men's lacrosse coach invited me.
Roan Shuttleworth
To come speak to the team. Yeah, I forgot that.
Harry Shuttleworth
So flattering. And they're not even. It was not mandatory because they're in reading period, which is the two weeks before exams when there are no classes and the athletic coaches can't make. Per Ivy League rules. Cannot make the kids come down and do practices or even mandatory Weightlifting or anything like that during that period. So anything they do is optional. And the coach just, like, casually texted the captains and was like, hey, just let the team know if they want, Francis Ellis is coming to the locker room and we'll, like, be around to talk. And, like, 20 of them showed up. And they were all so well behaved.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, I'm sure.
Harry Shuttleworth
And so handsome, of course. Oh, my God, they were perfect. They were just perfect. Well, I mean, my prime. Was it like, from my prime, Right?
Roan Shuttleworth
Was it like, the same, like, has there been big renovations? Or, like, did you walk in and you were like, holy shit?
Harry Shuttleworth
It was pretty darn similar. We. My senior year, they redid the entire locker room, and it had made it really cool. I think they're due for another facelift because that's been. Yeah, 15 years now. I mean, it's. It's stunning. But I do think that they're. They're due.
Francis Ellis
Well, maybe they. They had you in for, like, a little boosting session.
Harry Shuttleworth
I wonder.
Francis Ellis
Well, nil. Money.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
I'm certainly not the guy for that.
Francis Ellis
They don't know that. They don't know that you have to keep that illusion up.
Harry Shuttleworth
You can't even afford sty cream.
But no, I mean, it was. It was super cool, and it was very informal and just sort of my. My goal in speaking to them. I didn't really have, like, an agenda, but it was just to show them that, you know, there's options out there for them professionally other than finance. Because I went around the room and sort of asked them all, like, yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
They all said finance.
Harry Shuttleworth
What's your name? Where are you from? And what are you. What are you thinking of doing? Yeah, and I would. Sports. 95%, dude. Not even sports business. It was quite literally finance.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
And they were all going to. Which, look, I get it. Promising career, almost assured financial success. There's a very clear road that has been paved by the guys that were ahead of them on the team to show them, like, this is how you punch up your resume. These are the classes you need to take. This is the alumni network that you need to tap into. And then they all go on and they make crazy money and whatever. But I was like, look, you know, I thought about that and I tried. It didn't really connect with me, and it took a lot longer for me to become successful. But, like, I'm so happy now. I have a really cool life and a really cool job that is not so linear in a way.
Francis Ellis
That's quite nice.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, kind of a nice Message. Yeah, it was cool.
Roan Shuttleworth
Sick. Did you guys get to get a. Get a little tossing?
Harry Shuttleworth
No, really? I didn't want.
Roan Shuttleworth
Dude, of course you wanted.
Harry Shuttleworth
30 degrees out.
Roan Shuttleworth
I know you were leaving, going. I would have loved to pick up a stick.
Harry Shuttleworth
I don't have. I don't have much interest in playing lacrosse.
Francis Ellis
When was the last time you touched spoon?
Roan Shuttleworth
When me and. Probably when me and you threw it around.
Harry Shuttleworth
Did we have a catch?
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, in the Chicago office.
Harry Shuttleworth
That would have been it.
Roan Shuttleworth
I don't know how.
Francis Ellis
You don't remember.
Roan Shuttleworth
We're tossing for about an hour. No, now. Five minutes. But I mean, we were.
Francis Ellis
Long toss and it was good, though.
Roan Shuttleworth
We were throwing rockets at each other.
Harry Shuttleworth
He can catch. He's got hands.
Francis Ellis
Really?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, I played.
Francis Ellis
I know you played, but I just never. I never know.
Harry Shuttleworth
Harry is a quiet athlete.
Roan Shuttleworth
There's never been anything more false said about me. I am the least athletic that person.
Harry Shuttleworth
Not even true, dude. I don't know why you even want to, like, like, put out that false flag, bro.
Roan Shuttleworth
Have you ever seen me run?
No control over his body.
Harry Shuttleworth
I've seen you swing a golf club. I've seen you cast a fly rod.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, but toes are in that. Casting a fly rod's that.
Harry Shuttleworth
No, again, I don't know. I understand golf. I will not get swing for the sake of comedy.
Roan Shuttleworth
I got a good swing.
Harry Shuttleworth
You're sacrificing truth to be funny. And it's. I don't stand for it.
Roan Shuttleworth
I can do, like, the technical stuff. Like, I can throw lacrosse ball.
Harry Shuttleworth
Okay.
Roan Shuttleworth
Catch lacrosse.
Harry Shuttleworth
The technical stuff. Put another way, athletic things. Hand eye coordination.
Roan Shuttleworth
Well, I mean, look, I'll take the gas if you're throwing it around, but.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, you talk about, like, oh, you know, I was bad at hockey and my dad's like, do you want to keep doing this? And I was like, no, you're still on a travel team. You're still playing hockey at a level where there were tryouts.
Roan Shuttleworth
Towards the end, you made the team. Towards the end, you made 18. There was no making teams at the end of the fuck out, dude. I think I was on the C team when I quit.
Francis Ellis
I saw him. He like, like, roller skated in a loop around the office a while ago for the yak. And he was fucking flying, dude. He looked like he was in Mighty Ducks because I know how to skate. He literally was like. He was like, stopping on the side of his blade and, like, sending cement up to the wall. I'd never seen someone do that, dude.
Roan Shuttleworth
Carving into the skew.
Francis Ellis
Carving the Cement.
Harry Shuttleworth
Harry masquerades around as this sort of like devil may care, right? Calculated, like deeply pothead, kind of riddled. I wear the same clothes, I roll out of bed. I'm just bumbling my way through.
Francis Ellis
This is genius pr.
Harry Shuttleworth
Meanwhile, under this bullshit fucking stuff that you wear is a chiseled rock hard. It's a fighting athletic machine.
Francis Ellis
An erudite well read.
Harry Shuttleworth
And you know that if you lose yourself, you're going to lose the who also have lost their way.
Francis Ellis
You know, I've heard him slip into Arabic before accidentally. And he'll just start saying something. And yeah, every once in a while.
Harry Shuttleworth
We get a glimpse. He's like, oh yeah, no, the cameras aren't working. Let me just code up a new app to fix that for us.
Roan Shuttleworth
And no, I mean I appreciate the, the, the words, but no, there's nothing.
Francis Ellis
Nothing gassing about it. No tire pumping.
Harry Shuttleworth
You appreciate the truth, It's.
Roan Shuttleworth
Well, I mean, I don't know about chiseled and all that, but. I don't know. I don't know.
Francis Ellis
You're a all star video game owner.
Roan Shuttleworth
I am that, but I'm not good at video games at all.
Harry Shuttleworth
Well, that's true. You suck at all video games.
Francis Ellis
But that could be part of the COVID up.
Harry Shuttleworth
I wonder.
Francis Ellis
That's part of the science.
Harry Shuttleworth
You're like some reverse Bruce Wayne. Instead of going the billionaire, glitzy, glamorous playboy route, you were like, I'm gonna go the opposite way. But I'm still Batman.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, I, I'm bad at video games for sure. Which is unfortunate.
Harry Shuttleworth
Well, let's talk about, let's talk about your success. So yeah, let's talk bush. Let's talk bush really quickly. Can you fill me in on what happened here? Because it seems as if something good finally did happen.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, yeah, it was a great weekend. It really wasn't. It's not as big of a deal like in overall as it seems, but like for us obviously, like we were fucking psychedelic. We had like the first matches of the year. So it's like challengers, which is like what? We're in the amateur league. It, it's open bracket. I think there was like, I think they said there was like 450 teams competing in it and we won the whole thing.
Harry Shuttleworth
Oh my God.
Roan Shuttleworth
But it went over the course of, spanned over two days and the first day, the first day was a total joke. Like we didn't, we streamed the entire thing. We probably didn't need to. It was still fun. But it was us just like how Many hours. The first day was. Was 12 hours.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
And those are athlete numbers. Yeah. And then. Or no, maybe it was 10. I don't. I don't feel.
Francis Ellis
That's endurance athlete numbers.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Iron Man.
Roan Shuttleworth
It was a lot. And then I had a spot after and I was. I got on stage and I was like.
Francis Ellis
Felt like a bad dream.
Harry Shuttleworth
Ptsd.
Roan Shuttleworth
My ears are ringing.
But I actually had. I had a good set and. And then we did the next day. And the next day they were like, it's going to be a lot shorter today. Should be a lot tighter. Shorter. Like everyone here is professionals because now it's the top eight teams. Sunday. And it was so much longer and so many more delays. We were. We went live, I think at 11:00am Eastern and we got off at 1:00am.
And we played three matches or. Yeah.
Francis Ellis
So what the.
Harry Shuttleworth
Were you doing four hours or, or.
Roan Shuttleworth
No. Each match takes like an hour and a half.
Harry Shuttleworth
So there was a lot of downtime between.
Roan Shuttleworth
Unbelievable amounts of downtime. But it wasn't downtime where it could be like, okay, our next match isn't for six hours. Let's hop off. We'll go live again.
Harry Shuttleworth
No, you had to smoke your weed in between.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, no, it was like. We couldn't.
Francis Ellis
He keeps tying his shoe. Why does he bend?
Harry Shuttleworth
His shoes are on fire. Oh, my God.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, but they, they kept on.
Francis Ellis
We.
Roan Shuttleworth
We got. We got. They call it torching.
Harry Shuttleworth
Sure.
Roan Shuttleworth
They do, yeah. Explain it to weed. Not weed.
Harry Shuttleworth
Oh, no, they call. What do you mean?
Roan Shuttleworth
They call it torching?
Francis Ellis
Where another team.
Roan Shuttleworth
They'll put us on ice.
Harry Shuttleworth
Oh, okay.
Roan Shuttleworth
So it's like they're.
Harry Shuttleworth
They're.
Roan Shuttleworth
They're delaying the game.
Harry Shuttleworth
I've put ice cubes in my bong before. Laying the game down a little bit.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, yeah. This has nothing to do with weed or bombs.
Harry Shuttleworth
Then you're not doing a very good job because every word you're using, they call it torching. Yeah, right.
Francis Ellis
And where you, like, try to smoke your opponent.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yes, exactly.
Francis Ellis
Especially the green ones.
Roan Shuttleworth
And it will more of a. I guess it would be more of a I for. I don't know what the word I'm looking for is, but they delay it. We got fucked. The dudes that were playing what we were playing against were playing in another tournament at the same time.
Harry Shuttleworth
So they were saying warm.
Roan Shuttleworth
So they were. No, but like they were playing in a local. There's things called Local lands where it's like you play in person at like a video game like Hub or whatever and Internet cafe. In Internet cafe. Exactly. Dude, we were. We were playing the team.
Harry Shuttleworth
We were.
Roan Shuttleworth
We're waiting to start. We've been live for, like, 10 hours. And they're like, nah, yeah, they're. They're at a. They're at a local land right now. And it was like, well, why. Why are they doing that? And it was like. Cause they had, like, they wanted. They signed up. So then we had to wait another, like, four hours for these dudes to finish up their other tournament, which is when Jerry went on Twitter and made a video and was like, shut the. Like, this is out of fucking control.
Francis Ellis
They got a forfeit.
Roan Shuttleworth
They got a forfeit.
Francis Ellis
They should have.
Roan Shuttleworth
Dude, Jerry is a star. He is the funniest fucking person I know. I was screaming, laughing.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. Yeah. So I think this is a good moment where I wanted to say this, but, like, I don't know about our fans, but. And how they feel about Jerry. But certainly we feel that. I have always felt, and I know you feel, and Roan feels, that Jerry is one of the funny, if not the singular funniest person that works at bar.
Roan Shuttleworth
Easily.
Harry Shuttleworth
I have always felt that way. And I'm. I'm baffled by the.
Roan Shuttleworth
I don't know what, like, the.
Harry Shuttleworth
Any negative reaction to him. I think he is.
Roan Shuttleworth
I mean, well, I think a lot.
Francis Ellis
Of people are like, he doesn't work hard, but it's like, why would you want, like, your, like, the comedian to, like, work hard? Why would you want to, like, see it? Someone who's, like, making you laugh, like, be working hard? Like, I just don't like it put in, like, the work into the. Like, why do you. What do you want to see of his working hard?
Roan Shuttleworth
Like, I think it's just like a. That's just like a.
Francis Ellis
It's a cycle.
Roan Shuttleworth
It's just like the oldest, like, barstool complaint of all time is like, oh, they're not working enough. And it's like, it's not a 9 to 5.
Francis Ellis
And also, it's not how you know what work someone's doing.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, it's all based on the output.
Harry Shuttleworth
And then, like, people accuse me of trying too hard, and it's like, well, that's the way I get there. I don't know my other. And another process. Like, Jerry has small, like, the hole in one thing. He catches lightning in a bottle. But if you try to force those things all the time, people, it's. It doesn't work.
Roan Shuttleworth
100 agree.
Harry Shuttleworth
You got to be patient. And.
It doesn't come that way. For me, I. I do have to force it.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. Yeah. He's like. I also will say, I think he's. Although he is insanely, like, he's very naturally funny, I think he also is, like.
Francis Ellis
He works. He works it out.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. I think he's a lot smarter and thinks things over a lot more than.
Francis Ellis
People being, like, tactful. But, like, if he just, like, threw at the wall all the time.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
People would, like, criticize that. Like, how is being tactful not, like, a smarter, funnier move?
Harry Shuttleworth
Let me tell you. When we did Surviving Barstool, so I found the. The first key of the game.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
You know, the keys that unlock the box and unlock the idol. So.
I don't know. I was so bad at playing that game that I think I just told a couple people right off the bat to sort of, like, gain favor, get friends or something like that.
Francis Ellis
Play the game.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. And all it did was just overexpose me and show them that I was a fucking patsy.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
And I went to bed in the Anus studio. I lugged one of the cot mattresses up there because I didn't want to sleep in a room with 12 people. And the lights were out. I was. I was falling asleep. And the door bursts open, and the lights in the Anus studio are all automatic.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
So instantly all the lights burst on, and it's Jersey Jerry.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
So it's the first night.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
And he goes, francis. And he's alone, no cameras, nothing. And he goes. He sits down and he goes, I heard you found a key. He goes, tell me everything about it. And I'm like, oh, hey, Jerry. Let me just take my night guard out really quick.
Francis Ellis
Let me just get this mask off.
Harry Shuttleworth
We're not on the same team. We've net. We haven't had any real conversation about an alliance or anything.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's just aggressive fact finding that he's doing. And he sits down, and I'm like, well, yeah, so I found this key. Blah, blah, blah. He goes, what does it look like? And I'm like, it's got a feather on it. It's on a keychain. And that. This. That. Blah, blah, blah. And, like, then they bring you into a room. He's like, what kind of a room? And I'm like, at the confessional room. And I, like, walk him through the process, and he's asking really specific questions and not. Not being warm or anything. And then I'm like, yeah, so that's the deal. And he goes, okay. And then he just gets up and leaves. He didn't say, like, thank you or goodbye or like, let's keep this between us or like, let's work together. Just. That was the.
Francis Ellis
He just bully balled the game.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
He didn't finesse the game at all.
Harry Shuttleworth
The end of what he needed and he just came all over my stomach and walked out.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
He's a businessman is what it was. Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
He's strictly business.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. And I was like, wow, that guy. That guy's intense.
Roan Shuttleworth
He is, dude.
Harry Shuttleworth
The.
Roan Shuttleworth
So, yeah, we had the whole thing with the delays, and that's when he gets into. There's this. There's this like the, like this CEO of like, I don't know, the commissioner of the cdl, the professional Call of Duty League. He is. He, like, overlooks the Challengers League, but, like, barely. Jerry's sending videos at the guy, like the commissioner of the league, and he's like, dude, he. His name's like. I forget what the fucking guy's name is. But there was a. There's an account on Twitter called Challengers intel, which is just a random guy who just posts the stats from the matches, just like a fan. And Jerry. Jerry goes into this big meeting with all of these dudes on this podcast called the Flank. And they're all these, like, top. All these, like, the. The faces of professional Call of Duty. And Jerry's like, it's. He's going into it and he's like, get CDL intel on the horn now.
Like, he was like, the comm. He thought he was the commissioner of the league. And we were like, dude, this is just like a kid in his apartment. Is. No say in any of this. But it was. Dude, it was so funny.
Francis Ellis
And then he's.
Roan Shuttleworth
He's on the show with them and they're talking about, like, there's a 15 minute rule. And Jerry's like, yeah, it's. It's 3.2 section 3.2 in the rule book. And he's got the PDF pulled up and he's reading through the rules. It was. It was insane, but it was.
Francis Ellis
He come out to a match, Jerry. Yeah, I was texting with him this morning. He said to come out to one. How would that work? You guys don't even go anywhere. What, am I supposed to go to your apartment?
Roan Shuttleworth
No, so let's come out to a match there. There will be, like, in person. LAN tournaments.
Francis Ellis
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
So, like, this is all, like, qualifiers and like, and like, pretty much just determining, like, the seeds, like, who's seeded where. And I think in January we have Our first major where we'll have to go to Dallas and our team will compete.
Francis Ellis
You can expect me and Francis to be there online. Anything to support our brother.
Harry Shuttleworth
That's it. Bingo. Bingo Bango.
Francis Ellis
What day of the week is it going to be?
Roan Shuttleworth
It'll be Friday. Saturday.
Francis Ellis
Unfortunately, I'm out.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's not going to work.
Francis Ellis
Damn.
Roan Shuttleworth
Unfortunately. Our team is fucking insane.
Francis Ellis
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Jt.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
That boy is. I actually have never seen you react like that one. Video.
Roan Shuttleworth
Tj.
Francis Ellis
Tj.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
Jt. Tj. It's the same feeling like these same initials.
Roan Shuttleworth
Feeling like teach.
Harry Shuttleworth
What's he doing?
Roan Shuttleworth
He'll get picked up by a professional team.
Harry Shuttleworth
Oh, he's no longer on the team.
Roan Shuttleworth
He will. If we're lucky, we'll play major one with him.
Harry Shuttleworth
He's that good? Yeah, he.
Roan Shuttleworth
He's been. All of the guys on our team have been in and out of the pro leagues. So there's a chance that they could all get picked up.
Harry Shuttleworth
They're journeymen.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
They're donkeys.
Harry Shuttleworth
They swung up and down.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. Yeah. And they've all had big success, so.
Harry Shuttleworth
Doesn't sound like it.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, they have.
Harry Shuttleworth
Really?
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
But then why would they be down in the lower league?
Roan Shuttleworth
Because shit happens. There's only 12 teams in the league. Four per team.
Harry Shuttleworth
For this 48 players.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's not a lot. And they're not in the top 48.
Roan Shuttleworth
I would say our guys are definitely in the top 48.
Francis Ellis
JT is.
Roan Shuttleworth
I think there's guys in the pro leagues that probably shouldn't be in the pro leagues.
Harry Shuttleworth
Wow. Is this why our guys promotion relegation system?
Roan Shuttleworth
Like.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. If your team finished top of your league, would you get promoted into the number one league?
Roan Shuttleworth
Into the cdl?
Harry Shuttleworth
Sure.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, that's not how that works.
Harry Shuttleworth
How do you get into the cdl?
Roan Shuttleworth
They have to. They'd have to ask us to be involved in it. I mean it's definitely a possibility.
Harry Shuttleworth
Ask.
Roan Shuttleworth
They used to be there was a buy in. It was like a $25 million buy in. And then they realized. I think they realized that that was dumb. They returned all of the money to the teams and now there's no longer a buy in. But it still is franchise. So there's only 12 teams. So like there's been talks about like some teams like getting kicked out, maybe new teams coming in. So.
Francis Ellis
So exactly what Francis said. Relegation. Someone gets lowered out and one person gets.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, but it hasn't happened. I don't think it's happened since the cdl.
Francis Ellis
Well, let's start Making a push.
Roan Shuttleworth
Well, that's what we're.
Francis Ellis
Yeah, let's go. I mean, should be. That's the true meritocracy. Yeah. You can't just tank out and suck.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. I will say though, the goal is not to get like. Obviously if we got invited to be in the professional league, we'd obviously do that.
Harry Shuttleworth
So that's the goal.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, that's not the goal.
Harry Shuttleworth
Why. That should be the goal.
Roan Shuttleworth
But that's not the. The. The goal.
Harry Shuttleworth
Why would I want to watch you guys fuck around in the ahl?
Roan Shuttleworth
Because it's fucking entertaining.
Harry Shuttleworth
Okay. Well, I'd much rather see you guys entertain in the top league.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, but once you get into the top league, it's. It's like the. The whole driving factor to all of this is the content. And once we get into the pros, then we have. It's kind of. It becomes more of like a business. Salaries. Yeah. You got to pay a coach. Like, we don't have the money. Obviously. It wouldn't be. It's not like if we got brought into the cdl, it's like I'm paying salaries. It would be.
Francis Ellis
Yeah, you could still just make content.
Roan Shuttleworth
But like right now there's no one like there's like a. There's this dude Zuma who runs that show that I was talking about. He does content for challengers. But outside of that, like, we're like. Worked like that's the whole plan. Worked. So we're.
Francis Ellis
But it doesn't. It doesn't help the Savannah Bananas argument.
Roan Shuttleworth
Well, it does.
Harry Shuttleworth
You said it's more about the content than about getting to the top league. That is Savannah Bananas written.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, I said it's content driven, whereas the Savannah.
Francis Ellis
But we got to win.
Roan Shuttleworth
We still got to win. Like it's. The team's only going to go as well as the team is.
Harry Shuttleworth
Sure.
Francis Ellis
But put it on the fucking place card. Put it on the note card. Put it on a fucking T shirt. What is it? The team is only going to go as well as the team is.
Roan Shuttleworth
If you.
Harry Shuttleworth
If you got invited into the top league, would you accept it?
Roan Shuttleworth
Obviously.
Harry Shuttleworth
Right. Well, then I really think that should be the goal. I mean, it's like worry about the long term.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Infrastructure.
Francis Ellis
When we get.
Harry Shuttleworth
Dude, think of. You want to talk about content if you're in the top league. Right?
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Now we're talking about tour buses, personalized controllers, merch.
Roan Shuttleworth
We can do all that.
Harry Shuttleworth
Now we're talking about. Yeah, but not on the same level. Right. So think about this. In the Premier League in soccer, when those teams get promoted, they immediately make way more money.
Roan Shuttleworth
I think we would make less money.
Harry Shuttleworth
No, it's insane, actually.
Francis Ellis
I don't know what the fuck it's.
Roan Shuttleworth
Actually, it's really not.
Francis Ellis
I'm not going to argue with it. But the ceiling is higher.
Harry Shuttleworth
Totally.
Roan Shuttleworth
The ceiling is definitely higher if we're in the pro league. But the only problem is that it is it's a business. Once you're in the pro league, like, there's. You have to pay for a lot of shit. And that's why most esports orgs make $0. Esports is not a profitable industry unless you're doing content. But like teams that are just going and competing, none of those teams make money.
Genuinely.
Harry Shuttleworth
Okay.
Roan Shuttleworth
Like it's like a losing.
Francis Ellis
But the players do.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, yeah, they make a ton of money.
Francis Ellis
Yeah, but you'll make money off the content no matter what. Like, Jerry could be yelling at the commissioner of this tiny league, or he could be yelling at the commissioner of the big league. And it's still funny if he's doing it because nobody was doing it before.
Roan Shuttleworth
There's no consequences if you yell at the commissioner when you're not in the league. If you're in the league, you get fined.
Harry Shuttleworth
Oh, are you worried that if you. Are you worried that you guys will be held out of the league because of the relationship you've got with the commissioner now?
Roan Shuttleworth
No, not at all. Because we cleared things up with the commish.
Harry Shuttleworth
What's his name?
Roan Shuttleworth
I don't remember. It's something with his last name is. It's spelled like T S a Y zay.
Something like that.
Harry Shuttleworth
Do you want me to see if we know someone who knows him? Do you want me to lean on him?
Roan Shuttleworth
Well, I think we know him now.
Francis Ellis
I think there's probably some finance brothers from the lacrosse team that might be able to have a hand in his pocket.
Harry Shuttleworth
It. You'd be surprised how many people I know and how many people I can. I can get to.
Francis Ellis
He has access like this.
Roan Shuttleworth
I know.
Harry Shuttleworth
I mean, we know there's no skill I'm better at other than grammar than getting to the person at the top and. And having a conversation.
Francis Ellis
Grammar's a tool to get there. A lot of times people respect good grammar, especially tse.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, of course.
Harry Shuttleworth
What do you say?
Francis Ellis
What is he related to?
Harry Shuttleworth
General.
Francis Ellis
So.
What is his. What kind of name is he? Generals wrote into town on the tsunam.
Harry Shuttleworth
Why does he have a. Oh, watch out. You might get bitten by a zitzi fly.
Francis Ellis
What what is the. What kind of. Is it. What kind of nationality is that name?
Roan Shuttleworth
I don't know.
Harry Shuttleworth
Zay.
Francis Ellis
Is it. Is it, like, Filipino or is it, like, Indian?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, no, I think Filipino would be right. Or. I don't want to say. It's not Korean.
Roan Shuttleworth
I really don't know.
Francis Ellis
Can we get a 23andMe on Zay? On Zay. Flowers.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
Fuck. We were just saying how we didn't watch any ball this weekend.
Harry Shuttleworth
I watched a lot of ball.
Francis Ellis
Really?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
I didn't get to watch, like, any.
Harry Shuttleworth
I watched a lot of ball.
Roan Shuttleworth
I'm jealous. That Thursday night game was great. Cowboys, Lions.
Francis Ellis
What are you. Do you wear shoes in your house?
Harry Shuttleworth
No.
Francis Ellis
You take them off right away.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yes.
Francis Ellis
But you keep socks on. Sometimes you overheat.
Harry Shuttleworth
I like to be. I like to wear as little as I possibly can in my home, but.
Francis Ellis
So you're just thonged out watching ball.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, that's right.
Roan Shuttleworth
So you go, no socks. I'm. I got. I'm always selling socks.
Harry Shuttleworth
I don't. I don't wear socks very often. I don't like the feeling. I like being barefoot.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, I hate it.
Francis Ellis
But you're. You're, like, gonna be a crumb magnet if you take your socks off. If you walk around, you look like you just breaded some chicken cutlets.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, no, no. My.
I will say it.
Francis Ellis
My.
Roan Shuttleworth
There was a time where it definitely was like that, and it was really fun.
Harry Shuttleworth
Gary walking around barefoot in his apartment is like walking down a driveway.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Gravel driveway in the Hamptons.
Francis Ellis
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
There was a time where it was like that. Luckily, that's not an issue anymore. Or keep it tidy.
Francis Ellis
You know how in Home Alone 2 when they become the sticky bandits and he just wraps his hand in tape and puts in the Salvation Army?
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
Coin. Coin bin. That's just you stepping down onto your floor. How'd you. How'd you get it? How'd you bust it up?
Roan Shuttleworth
Clean it up.
Francis Ellis
Yeah. Or did you scrub? Or what'd you do?
Roan Shuttleworth
I got a vacuum.
Francis Ellis
Smart.
Roan Shuttleworth
I'm always vacuuming.
Harry Shuttleworth
I. I don't believe you.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, yeah.
Francis Ellis
Actually, maybe that's something we should get him for Harry Hanukkah.
Harry Shuttleworth
I know.
Roan Shuttleworth
I got a great vacuum.
Harry Shuttleworth
I think we need to get him one cleaning lady.
Francis Ellis
Yeah, that'd be so nice.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, not needed. I had Bo. Bo is just at my apartment. He cleaned that up nice. Clean the kitchen, Clean the living room. Oh, yeah. I have no idea. I came back, place was clean as a whistle.
Harry Shuttleworth
He's like, if I'm Gonna stay here three more days. I need to. I can't have it like this.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. I think it was just because he wasn't doing it because I was out of town.
Harry Shuttleworth
He's like, I want to have children someday.
One of the family. And this is going to stop that from happening unless we do something.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
How long did it take him?
Roan Shuttleworth
I don't know. You never really told me.
Francis Ellis
I feel like it was probably like an episode of Hoarders. He just, like, put the bin out front.
Roan Shuttleworth
He did move some things that I was like, all right, well, that didn't need to.
Harry Shuttleworth
Like. What didn't need to go.
Roan Shuttleworth
He moved. He put some stuff in some places where I was like, well, that doesn't go there.
Harry Shuttleworth
He put things away.
Roan Shuttleworth
He put things away.
Harry Shuttleworth
That needs to be back out in the open.
Roan Shuttleworth
Exactly.
Harry Shuttleworth
Didn't you see that? I built more of my desk for that specifically.
Roan Shuttleworth
He might be moving to New York soon.
Francis Ellis
Him with you?
Roan Shuttleworth
No. West Village, Definitely not.
Harry Shuttleworth
No. He's not a WV guy.
Francis Ellis
He should move out to far Bushwick and live that artist lifestyle that he. We know he has deep inside of him.
Roan Shuttleworth
He was talking about Bushwick.
Francis Ellis
I could also see him doing a little Murray Hill.
Roan Shuttleworth
I think it's just awesome. Everything's so expensive.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, it really is.
Francis Ellis
That's why I said Murray Hill.
Roan Shuttleworth
Is Murray Hill not expensive.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's the classic post college fratty, sort of.
Roan Shuttleworth
I think they're saying that's It's. It's drifted away from that almost. Right? I don't know, like, what's there? There's a new Murray Hill. Hell's Kitchen.
Francis Ellis
Is it?
Harry Shuttleworth
Mm.
Roan Shuttleworth
All the frat bros are up in Hell's Kitchen.
Francis Ellis
There's none of the gay bros anymore. Where are they Fucking and sucking.
Roan Shuttleworth
This thing's gonna dumbo.
Harry Shuttleworth
This king's gonna draw real nice.
Francis Ellis
Did you know that gay Pat was at a party in Dumbo this weekend? And he said it was. It was the rate it was for 40 to 3 ratio.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
40.
Francis Ellis
40 dudes. Three girls. All gays.
Roan Shuttleworth
In your guys, huh? In your hood?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. Did you guys pop by?
Francis Ellis
I couldn't make it by, but I was fucking. I was so sad that I missed out on his day bacchanal.
Harry Shuttleworth
I couldn't go out with my eye looking the way that it does.
Francis Ellis
The gays would torture.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, maybe. Like.
Francis Ellis
Yeah.
But they probably take you in.
Roan Shuttleworth
You know what you need is the lid scrub.
Harry Shuttleworth
I have that.
Roan Shuttleworth
That works well.
Harry Shuttleworth
I've been doing that lid scrub.
Roan Shuttleworth
Don't be afraid. To get in there either.
Harry Shuttleworth
What do you mean?
Roan Shuttleworth
Like, when you're lid scrubbing, don't be afraid to, like, put some.
Harry Shuttleworth
Apply some pressure on my eyeball.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, you're trying to. You want to loosen up all the shit in there.
Harry Shuttleworth
I know.
Roan Shuttleworth
Get it to. Get it to go away.
Francis Ellis
You just tell the gays as monkey pox.
Roan Shuttleworth
And they'll be like, oh, yeah, Are you doing, like. You got to be hitting some massage.
Harry Shuttleworth
I'm having an allergic reaction to my new prep.
Francis Ellis
But I am very on prep. Open for business.
Roan Shuttleworth
You gotta go warm. Compress.
Scrub.
That's it?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
Maybe rice. You ever go, like, rice with the sock or.
Harry Shuttleworth
Oh, that's not a bad idea. I hadn't thought.
Roan Shuttleworth
People say that works really well.
Francis Ellis
They say that the rice in a sock.
Roan Shuttleworth
They say that the rice absorbs the moisture in your eye. I'm serious. I'm giving you real tips right now.
Harry Shuttleworth
I think you're thinking about when you drop your phone.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
You're thinking about.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, no, no, no, no. I'm giving you guys, stop.
Francis Ellis
Take your eye to the. You break iFix store, and they'll get you a new screen for your eye.
Roan Shuttleworth
I'm being honest. I mean, I don't know how Best.
Francis Ellis
Of luck avoided the sty. I don't know if it's the contacts or secretly protecting me. Well, I don't. I can't believe you brothers are getting styes like this.
Roan Shuttleworth
I got. Look at my eyes. No styes.
Francis Ellis
You said you got four stars since you've worked here.
Roan Shuttleworth
Since I've worked here? Yeah. I had one pretty recently. When we were.
Harry Shuttleworth
When we were.
Francis Ellis
You know who else just had a sty? Annika.
Harry Shuttleworth
Did she? Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
Really?
Francis Ellis
She was wearing sunglasses for what felt like weeks.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, I mean, sometimes they take a while to go.
Harry Shuttleworth
Really?
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
I thought you could get rid of this by, like, tomorrow.
Harry Shuttleworth
I mean, I'm hoping to. Holy.
Roan Shuttleworth
That shit's not gonna be gone tomorrow.
Harry Shuttleworth
Not tomorrow, but. What about by Saturday? Yeah, I'm going to this huge party in Dumbo.
Roan Shuttleworth
I mean, it might.
Harry Shuttleworth
You might. 3 to 40.
Roan Shuttleworth
I'm worried that you're not massaging the eye enough.
Harry Shuttleworth
Will you relax? I'm just touching my eyes.
Francis Ellis
He's gonna spread it. If he scrubs it now, you gotta break it up.
Harry Shuttleworth
Okay. With what? A pool cue?
Roan Shuttleworth
Like, honest. I'm trying to forget. Remember what I use?
Francis Ellis
Honestly? That pee.
Roan Shuttleworth
They say, like, really, like.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, I get it. Listen, I understand. I understand. Just.
Roan Shuttleworth
How do you get in there?
Francis Ellis
You poke your own eyes.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. Or just Take a little like.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
Where'D you eat while you were in Boston?
Roan Shuttleworth
Puncture.
Harry Shuttleworth
Honestly.
It was such an effort for me to not to sort of stay within myself. Like I. I had so many shows. I had seven shows and I've never done that many before. So I was trying to be very careful about not blowing up early in the week.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
And I stayed at the sickest hotel maybe that I've ever stayed at in a city.
Francis Ellis
What do you mean blowing up?
Harry Shuttleworth
Like going out drinking after a show.
Francis Ellis
Are you saying just because, like you didn't want to be. You wanted to be slim on stage?
Harry Shuttleworth
No, blowing up meaning like I blew up last night.
Francis Ellis
Oh God, I got it.
Harry Shuttleworth
Waking up hungover.
Francis Ellis
I thought you meant that you need the gua sha facial.
Harry Shuttleworth
No, I wanted to really get to the finish line as best as that I could. And so I. I just ate at my hotel. Which again, fine. Hotels Resorts collection. American Express Platinum Card. $100 resort credit. $100 per day. It was a hundred dollar per day. Breakfast credit.
Roan Shuttleworth
Who's dropping a hundred bones on breakfast?
Harry Shuttleworth
You'd be surprised. The steak and eggs was $59.
Roan Shuttleworth
You get. Get them twice.
Harry Shuttleworth
I mean, you get one of those and then I get the. I got the Zatar croissant and I got an orange juice and a triple shot iced oat milk latte. And then I tipped the rest of the way home.
Francis Ellis
So you just got that for a hundred free $100 of food?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
Wait, that. Wait, I'm sorry, I'm gonna miss. How did you get the hundred dollars a day?
Francis Ellis
The Amex platinum card.
Harry Shuttleworth
Having credit card.
Roan Shuttleworth
Okay, got it. Yeah, I have the Amex debit.
Remember how long.
Harry Shuttleworth
Do you remember how long you lived with a debit card for?
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
And how many.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, how could I forget? It was last year.
Harry Shuttleworth
And how many. How many times I bugged you about getting a credit card. Do you have a credit card now? I still don't even know if I believe.
Roan Shuttleworth
Of course.
Harry Shuttleworth
Oh yeah, you do. You do.
Roan Shuttleworth
I have two. I got the platinum as well.
Harry Shuttleworth
Good, you have the platinum Amex Platinum, yeah.
Francis Ellis
So you're the resorts and all Right, so you just opt in.
Harry Shuttleworth
My goal now I'm an org owner.
Roan Shuttleworth
You think I don't got the platinum?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. My goal, Roan, is in the same way that I made it so that Harry will never allow himself to sit coach. Which is hysterical because. Because I do. I still do. Won't see him back there, but he won't do it. I do. I sat coach on the way you don't sit coach. You said, why would I ever sit coach?
Roan Shuttleworth
Actually, no, I didn't.
Harry Shuttleworth
You don't. Yeah. You're so full of shit.
Roan Shuttleworth
All right, continue.
Harry Shuttleworth
And he won't. He won't go backwards. Now. I need to get that. Him to do that with hotels. I want him to. Only once he gets that taste, you're.
Francis Ellis
Going to incept him into self respect.
Harry Shuttleworth
Dude, the first time that Harry comes back to his room in the middle of the day and finds all of his charging cords wrapped with a little black velcro thing, which you could probably keep. Yeah, you can.
Roan Shuttleworth
I have them at my house already.
Harry Shuttleworth
That or all your toiletries, you. You've left out, and you come back and they're all sitting on a clean washcloth perfectly arranged out for you.
Roan Shuttleworth
I don't know if I would like that.
Harry Shuttleworth
All your. The blinds and the lights are all automated. And there's a switch when right in front of the door. And there's a switch right next to the bed.
Roan Shuttleworth
So when you want to go to.
Harry Shuttleworth
Bed at night, you don't have to.
Roan Shuttleworth
That's. You're describing the citizen out.
Harry Shuttleworth
No.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. Whole room's controlled by an iPad. Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
You could do leds in there.
Harry Shuttleworth
You come home and there's just a plate of fresh macaroons every time you come home.
Roan Shuttleworth
That's pretty sick, dudes.
Harry Shuttleworth
This place had you. Every room you get your own personal butler.
Roan Shuttleworth
Jesus.
Harry Shuttleworth
And they text you.
Roan Shuttleworth
What, do they just sit in the room all day?
Harry Shuttleworth
No, you know, they're out doing whatever.
Francis Ellis
Bathroom attendant. They just have like cigarettes and freshen.
Harry Shuttleworth
Up for the punani. Punani, punani.
Roan Shuttleworth
Having a bathroom attendant in your hotel bathroom.
Harry Shuttleworth
If you want punani tunai. Freshen up. Those are the two songs they sang at this one club we used to go to in Oxford.
Francis Ellis
They were singing.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. The Jamaican guy, when you walked into the bathroom, he would sing one of two songs. Those two songs. He wanted to give you a spritz of Acqua di Giovanni and a breath mint. And then you had to tip him a couple quid.
Francis Ellis
Yeah. Having a quid, being like, yeah, I don't have any quid, but can I still get a cig?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
Oh, yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
I guess Europe sure do.
Francis Ellis
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Harry Shuttleworth
I've seen the sweater of yours and I asked you who makes that and you told me it was quite.
Francis Ellis
It was quince and my wife was like, why are you dressing? What are you dress dressing up for? And I wasn't dressing up, I was just dressing and it was just like quince and I just threw it on. She was like, what's the. Basically, what's the special occasion? She basically asked me if I had a job interview.
Harry Shuttleworth
Wow.
Francis Ellis
I said that we're doing just fine.
Harry Shuttleworth
Are you, are you seeing someone on the side?
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
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Harry Shuttleworth
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Francis Ellis
Thinking of a hockey game.
Harry Shuttleworth
Hockey game, fun. Rangers.
Francis Ellis
I mean Rangers would be ideal but maybe go to Islanders games. Top of Barelli's.
Harry Shuttleworth
Wow.
Francis Ellis
I think that you could get a reservation at Borelli's on Game time.
Harry Shuttleworth
That could be 11, your 11th day of game time. Go to 12days of gametime.com today for a chance to experience one of these moments.
Roan Shuttleworth
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Roan Shuttleworth
You guys watching Landman?
Harry Shuttleworth
No. And. And I would.
Roan Shuttleworth
I watched the first four episodes, and then it. It made me. Tried to get me to sign up for Paramount. So I'm out west.
Francis Ellis
Landman, Kevin Costner.
Roan Shuttleworth
It's good, but it's not that good.
Harry Shuttleworth
You get Paramount as a perk, as part of the MX Platinum. I really do.
Roan Shuttleworth
Really?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. I think you get to choose between Peacock and Paramount. And I'll be honest with you, I cannot believe that you liked that show.
Roan Shuttleworth
Did you finish it?
Harry Shuttleworth
All her fault.
Roan Shuttleworth
Did you finish it?
Harry Shuttleworth
That show made me sick to my stomach with how bad it was.
Roan Shuttleworth
You didn't finish that show.
Harry Shuttleworth
Gave me a sty. That's a bad. It was just so bad. Just poisoned me. Fed into my eyeballs.
Roan Shuttleworth
You didn't finish it.
Harry Shuttleworth
That's.
Francis Ellis
How many episodes did you get?
Roan Shuttleworth
One. He didn't. He didn't even pick it up. After he left, I went back and.
Harry Shuttleworth
I finished the first episode, and I was like, this is so trash. This is so trash that I can't. I can't.
Roan Shuttleworth
You watched one of eight episodes.
Harry Shuttleworth
How do you have such a low bar for quality?
Roan Shuttleworth
Because everything is shit.
Harry Shuttleworth
Well, fine, but, like, you get, like.
Roan Shuttleworth
One good show and you're like, okay, I'm sticking.
Harry Shuttleworth
That show sucks, man.
Roan Shuttleworth
You didn't watch it.
Harry Shuttleworth
Since when is that a thing we need to have done in on this podcast?
Roan Shuttleworth
Episodes. Eight episodes. You got to give it more than that, dude. But I will say, if you didn't like the first episode, just don't watch it.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, there you go. There we go. It's always because. It's always gets.
Roan Shuttleworth
Because the first three episodes are good, then the middle two are bad, and then the back. The back ones are really good.
Harry Shuttleworth
Do you know what I did watch was Begonia.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, yeah, that was good.
Harry Shuttleworth
Stav is in it.
Roan Shuttleworth
I know he's good. Theaters.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. You saw it in theaters?
Roan Shuttleworth
Of course.
Francis Ellis
To support a comic.
Roan Shuttleworth
Of course.
Harry Shuttleworth
It was a good movie. I liked it.
Roan Shuttleworth
I thought it was fucking great.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. I thought it was really, really solid.
Francis Ellis
Who's the female lead?
Harry Shuttleworth
Emma Stone.
Roan Shuttleworth
Stone.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. She's very compelling. Severe, I would say.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Helped by the sharp that she has a buzz cut.
Roan Shuttleworth
True.
Harry Shuttleworth
I don't know, man. Sometimes women with buzz Cuts. Do it for me. GI Jane, Demi Moore, buzz cut that.
Francis Ellis
They. They did it in Teachers.
Harry Shuttleworth
Natalie Portman in. In V for Vendetta.
Roan Shuttleworth
Everyone's got their personal preference.
Francis Ellis
What about just a short haircut on a female?
Harry Shuttleworth
That can do well for me too.
Francis Ellis
Yeah, it was all the 90s stuff. But point Break, the. The lead in that has kind of short surfer hair. And then Jamie Lee Curtis in that Arnold Schwarzenegger movie when she does that. Bust out the strip teeth.
Roan Shuttleworth
Got the short hair.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Classic.
Francis Ellis
You say one.
Roan Shuttleworth
I don't know.
Francis Ellis
Will Smith's wife, you know, he said that.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, you already said that.
Francis Ellis
That's.
Harry Shuttleworth
That's bicked. I'm not going to go that far. I need a little stubble on there to, to get my.
Francis Ellis
That's wicked.
Harry Shuttleworth
I don't need Vin Diesel in my bedroom.
Francis Ellis
I live my life a quarter mile at a time.
Harry Shuttleworth
Babe, will you get the back of my skull scalp. I have a hard time reaching.
Roan Shuttleworth
Have you ever seen those videos of like the, the. The full ball dudes shaving their head, Not a care in the world?
Francis Ellis
No.
Roan Shuttleworth
When they go Bic. Yeah, they're just like. It's. They're doing it like a dog, like scratching their ear with a fucking razor blade. It's insane.
Harry Shuttleworth
I think there are special razors for doing that though.
Roan Shuttleworth
I think. I think it's just. They just. They've been doing it.
Francis Ellis
They don't care if they die.
Roan Shuttleworth
No fear. No fear for the blade.
Harry Shuttleworth
Send it.
Francis Ellis
Yeah. Utmost respect to those brothers. Just going hard, but that. I mean, they have to be creamed up too. They have to be shaving creamed up.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. Oh, they get full head dip.
Francis Ellis
Yeah, I know. You're not shaving creaming.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, I, I gotta. I use a electric razor.
Francis Ellis
Have it on your balls.
Roan Shuttleworth
On my balls?
Francis Ellis
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
Scissors.
Harry Shuttleworth
Now.
Roan Shuttleworth
I've already said it. I said I don't shave my balls. I think I've been over this. I don't. My balls aren't.
Harry Shuttleworth
He looked like a wise old Japanese man. No, a soothsayer.
Roan Shuttleworth
Like people, we've talked about this before. People who are like, oh, man, I gotta shave my balls. Like, what is it like? It's like a peach. It's covered in a. Your balls are fully covered in hair.
Harry Shuttleworth
If Harry. If Harry. If you could talk to Harry's balls, they would sound like this.
Japanese.
Francis Ellis
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
Yes.
Harry Shuttleworth
You must respect my very wise.
Roan Shuttleworth
Respect the blade.
Harry Shuttleworth
They. They speak in fables. There's always some metaphor buried deep within.
Francis Ellis
They. People say that I'm too crazy. But really, I'm too nuts.
Oh, lordy, these talking balls.
Roan Shuttleworth
How are you feeling about your birds tonight?
Francis Ellis
I mean, this episode will have come out by then.
Roan Shuttleworth
I know, but it's good to get a little read on it, just to check in.
Francis Ellis
I think they're going to be sick.
Roan Shuttleworth
I think they're going to win.
Francis Ellis
They'll win by a tutty.
Roan Shuttleworth
I think they'll win by a tutty.
Harry Shuttleworth
Dude. There were some. There were some important things that happened yesterday in the NFL. I mean, it's the most obvious thing ever, but.
Roan Shuttleworth
Chiefs are out.
Harry Shuttleworth
The Chiefs. And by the way, they tried. It was not Patrick Mahomes fault. The drops from the stars at key moments in the game. Travis Kelsey, my God, Gray was dropping everything, bro. He was hitting them in the hands.
Roan Shuttleworth
I didn't get to see a lot of the game.
Harry Shuttleworth
He was being heroic. He was doing his thing where he's like gimpy. And it's third and is my mic.
Francis Ellis
Is my mic been out? Oh, here we go. I'm back now.
Roan Shuttleworth
No, yours isn't out.
Francis Ellis
Well, I apologize for that. That little bit of bad audio. I think that that's from my mic cord. I was fiddling with it. It.
Roan Shuttleworth
So that's not me banging around on the Skechers. I saw you with the sketchers. I said, no, no, no.
Francis Ellis
Why don't you stop me?
Roan Shuttleworth
Figured you'd learn, idiot.
Francis Ellis
I'm a goddamn fool.
Roan Shuttleworth
Bills.
Harry Shuttleworth
The Bills. Bills won a game they had to win and they.
Roan Shuttleworth
That was a great game.
Harry Shuttleworth
Really good. Josh Allen, man.
Roan Shuttleworth
You think they'll ever win, though?
Harry Shuttleworth
I think if they do, it'll be this year. I think the Bills are going to win the Super Bowl. Mark it.
Roan Shuttleworth
It's a hot take.
Harry Shuttleworth
Really. No, not a hot take.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, I mean, they're favorites.
Harry Shuttleworth
Favorites to win the Super Bowl.
Francis Ellis
Are they?
Harry Shuttleworth
Right now, the actual favorite to win the super bowl is.
Francis Ellis
I think it's got to be the Patriots.
Roan Shuttleworth
I don't know. I mean, I. I just worry about the Patriots and their lack of experience in the Super Bowl.
Francis Ellis
Yeah, I mean, May's going to get one, but is it going to. Is it going to be this year?
Roan Shuttleworth
That's. That's my question.
Francis Ellis
Figure it out. But why not get one early?
Roan Shuttleworth
I mean, one second year would be.
Francis Ellis
He's at least going to go.
Roan Shuttleworth
That's fucking.
Francis Ellis
How heartbreaking is it watching Jaden Daniels. I mean, even one season ago, everyone's like, Jaden's the one.
Roan Shuttleworth
He'll figure. He has to figure.
Harry Shuttleworth
The fourth favorite.
Roan Shuttleworth
Fourth?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
Really? Who's one.
Harry Shuttleworth
Rams.
Roan Shuttleworth
Really?
Harry Shuttleworth
Rams, then Seahawks, then Packers. Bills, then Patriots. Pats and Broncos are tied at fifth. Then Eagles, Texans, Jags, Niners. Niners are way back.
The Seahawks are at 2 plus 650.
Francis Ellis
Yeah, Seahawks are dealing ass whippings.
Roan Shuttleworth
They're dealing ass. But I mean, I don't know if it's.
Francis Ellis
That's what I said. I think I said dealing ass whippings.
Roan Shuttleworth
They're dealing ass whippings, but I don't know if they're. Darnold.
Francis Ellis
Yeah. I mean, last bringing home hardware, Vikings were 14 and 3, but, you know, Darnold, their defenses. Actually, the Vikings defense last year was good, too. I think Darnold bringing home hardware is nuts. The Rams, I think, will be the most boring.
Roan Shuttleworth
Rams. I don't think the Rams will win the Super Bowl.
Francis Ellis
Give me one. Give me anybody but the Rams.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
You know, one wants the Rams to win.
Francis Ellis
Give me the Eagles over the Rams.
Roan Shuttleworth
It's crazy because the Rams. The Rams won a couple years ago.
Francis Ellis
And now we're talking ball. Yeah, just like that.
Roan Shuttleworth
Just like that.
Harry Shuttleworth
All right, I'll pivot really quick. So I've been on this medication for a year now. Over a year.
Roan Shuttleworth
What is it called?
Harry Shuttleworth
Well, it's a Plenzen, but it's a version of Wellbutrin, but it has some kind of whatever, extended release thing. It's very specific, and it's an expensive drug. And our insurance has covered it for the most part. Well, almost entirely. I pay 50 bucks every time I get a refill, but it's like, it is expensive.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, yeah.
Francis Ellis
How many are in a refill? Is it a 30 day or a month? So 50 bucks a month?
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, it's no problem. I mean, I think. I think the medication is like 1500, 2000 bucks. So my insurance, our insurance covers almost all of it, which is really nice. Out of nowhere, they were like, we're not covering this anymore.
Francis Ellis
Ooh, what Barstool's insurance threw you out.
Harry Shuttleworth
On the street anthem Blue cross, Blue Shield. Really was just like, nope. And then they said, if you want to stay on this medication, we suggest that you try this drug, some more generic version of it.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
And I was like, I'm sorry.
Do you guys think that you're psychiatrists? What? You got people in the lab back there going through my CAT scan, knowing my history and assessing me and determining, like, what I should. What drug I should be on. Well, who the do they think they are?
Francis Ellis
And then that's insane because they all affect you differently.
Harry Shuttleworth
Correct. Get this So I go to my psychiatrist and I'm like, this is what's going on. She's like, okay, we'll put in a prior authorization form with a rush. Because yesterday I took the last pill that I had.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
And.
Over the weekend they put that in. Or like they put it on. I've been fighting this since Wednesday. And the insurance company came back and was like, oh, he's no longer enrolled with us on plan.
Roan Shuttleworth
They pulled you.
Harry Shuttleworth
Well, that's complete horseshit because then I went through our company and our HR people enrollment. I absolutely did. I was the first person here to do it. It.
Francis Ellis
The. Is that proven.
Harry Shuttleworth
Neil Armstrong of re enrolling.
Francis Ellis
You put your flag in the re.
Harry Shuttleworth
I was. The minute we got that notification, I went in and signed it back. Right up. Back. I. I'm terrified of letting my insurance lapse. So of course I'm totally re. Enrolled in good standing. All that. So then I double check on that. And then they're like, oh, well, you know, it requires this. And they're like, you got to fax us this. And they're basically throwing as much red tape, tape and as much at this problem as they possibly can to quite simply avoid having to pay for an expensive drug.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
So what are we thinking, Luigi, bro.
Harry Shuttleworth
I'm telling you, it was a moment where I was like, I get why he did that. I get why he did that.
Francis Ellis
That's definitely.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, yeah.
Francis Ellis
System that they put in place to make it difficult for people to access the things that are there. That's like a very corporate consultant. Like, hey, we'll bring in the consultants and like, yeah, we'll, we'll still offer that, but it will be very difficult.
Harry Shuttleworth
Dude. Insurance makes its money betting that you're not going to get sick.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Or health insurance that you're not going to. You know, life insurance that you're not going to die and car insurance you're not going to get. Right. So when you do actually need their help, they're. They're like, ah, fuck. They got.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah, they're pissed.
Harry Shuttleworth
They got. They. Oh, he got us. You know, and I, I have spoken openly about how efficacious this medication has been for me for a year. It's changed my life. To be told by the corporate overlords.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
That we need, we need to, we're going to give you it. We want you to try a different formula. Why don't you go. Instead of eating organic chicken, why don't you go fucking kill yourself? Why don't you try these frozen Nuggets from Trader Joe's.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
It's like, I don't know because my brain has completely rewired to this drug.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Over the course.
Francis Ellis
You're not Trader Joe's even.
Harry Shuttleworth
No.
Francis Ellis
Trader Joe's has something organic.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
This is the stop and Shop, like Dollar Tree Nuggies.
Harry Shuttleworth
I. I don't want to. I mean, I. I don't know how this will come off and I don't. But I'm genuinely like one scared.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
Because like, now I'm all off medica. I'm have to switch medication. So. Stats.
Francis Ellis
So what's going to happen is Francis is starting a GoFundMe. We're going to put together some money for his.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Roan Shuttleworth
Thank God you won the Internet invitation.
Harry Shuttleworth
I'm not. I still can't pay for this medication out of pocket.
Francis Ellis
Not with the invitation. You're gonna have to win the invitation.
Harry Shuttleworth
Next year's Invitational when the pot presumably goes up 5x.
Francis Ellis
You're gonna need to win it before then.
Harry Shuttleworth
I think it'll go to. I think it'll be huge.
Roan Shuttleworth
But if it goes to 5x, then, like, aren't you gonna have like, actual, like PGA people being like, let me get involved in this.
Harry Shuttleworth
I don't think you can.
Francis Ellis
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
I don't think you can take a true pro into this tournament.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
And then to that end, people will be like, well, it don't. Didn't Wesley Bryan win the RBC Heritage or whatever? And it's like, yeah, I think he got a sponsors exemption because amateurs can play in the pro events as long as like a.
They get a sponsor's exemption. Someone pays for them to go play.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah. Interesting.
Harry Shuttleworth
You should try to play in that next year.
Francis Ellis
He will tell you, if Bush keeps going good, you should play. That's going to be your ticket out of here.
Roan Shuttleworth
But people are good in that.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah, but there's also people who are bad.
Roan Shuttleworth
Not that bad. Like, who's the worst?
Harry Shuttleworth
You. You would not have been the worst player in the field.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, really?
Francis Ellis
Don't say anything about my brother, Chandler Holland.
Harry Shuttleworth
It wasn't a him either. It was the Duke. There's a guy in the field who's the Duke.
Francis Ellis
Yeah. It's like if they had Frank the Tank playing.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, the Duke. It's a powerful name.
Francis Ellis
The Duke was a powerful man.
Roan Shuttleworth
He gave himself that.
Harry Shuttleworth
And he refers to himself in the third person with the. Before his name.
Roan Shuttleworth
Really.
Harry Shuttleworth
The Duke just hit a good shot, but Duke needs another cigarette.
Roan Shuttleworth
This guy sounds like the Man.
Harry Shuttleworth
He's pretty Funny.
Francis Ellis
That's how you get from the 1 million to 100 million. Marketing brother. You just need to put yourself out there.
Roan Shuttleworth
I know this ass. So I'm gonna start calling myself and.
Francis Ellis
Just like pissing on the golf course.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
Just whip it out and piss in the cup after you make a shot.
Roan Shuttleworth
Pissing and. And everywhere.
Francis Ellis
Yeah, that's good. That's good and funny.
Roan Shuttleworth
That's how I do.
Francis Ellis
Hell yeah. All right.
Harry Shuttleworth
All right.
Roan Shuttleworth
Anything else?
Harry Shuttleworth
No.
Francis Ellis
I hope something good happens with your fucking. With your insurance.
Harry Shuttleworth
I don't know what. I don't know how to.
Francis Ellis
You're die for life.
Harry Shuttleworth
I know. I don't really know how to unfuck it. Let's put it this way. If over the next couple months on the podcast, you notice that I start reverting to my rather disconsole itself. Don't blame it on me. Don't blame it on me. No. It is the fault of Anthem, Blue Cross, Blue Shield.
Roan Shuttleworth
We'll get you on something.
Harry Shuttleworth
I was so mad. I was on the. I mean, I spoke to 20 different people.
Roan Shuttleworth
Oh, they don't. And they don't give off.
Harry Shuttleworth
Well, I find the last woman I spoke to did. Did. Yeah. And I almost won, dude. I almost.
Roan Shuttleworth
After 30 phone calls.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. I almost told her, like, I'm gonna go rip you guys apart.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
On the Internet and shit. If you don't figure this out.
Roan Shuttleworth
And what they say.
Harry Shuttleworth
Well, I didn't say that because I hate people that talk that way. I'm not going to be that guy.
Roan Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Harry Shuttleworth
So instead I'm just telling the truth. This is what happened. And I've never really dealt with it before. I mean, I've had shitty things happen with insurance and stuff.
Francis Ellis
Well, just pay for the first one and hopefully they resolve it. Just.
Harry Shuttleworth
I can't. What? I'm going to buy myself 30 more days.
Francis Ellis
Yeah. And then hopefully they resolve it within 30 days. Just pay the 2000 up front and then we. Class action. Sue their asses.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah.
Francis Ellis
Together as brothers.
Harry Shuttleworth
Are you getting screwed on some medication too?
Francis Ellis
I'm not.
Harry Shuttleworth
Well, then.
Francis Ellis
But they don't know that. They don't know that. I could be on Wellbutrin too. I could be on the Snap Crackle Pop. Like fake.
Harry Shuttleworth
Yeah. Right.
Roan Shuttleworth
Is it like a shortage or something?
Harry Shuttleworth
No, it's just that it's expensive. Why else would they have suggested another medication that they think works just as well?
Francis Ellis
Well, it's because they hired that new CEO, Martin Shkreli.
All right, cool.
Harry Shuttleworth
Good shit.
Roan Shuttleworth
Thank you guys for listening. I'm going to be in Dallas, Texas this weekend or Addison. However, I think it's still in Dallas, but tickets@harrysuttlewebsite.com I'm also going to be in Arlington, Virginia, slash DC the weekend of New Year's Eve. Six shows that'll also be on my website.
Harry Shuttleworth
Nice.
Roan Shuttleworth
Harrysolwebsite.com.
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Release Date: December 9, 2025
Hosts: Harry Shuttleworth (Lil Sasquatch), Roan Shuttleworth (Rone), Francis Ellis
Podcast: Son of a Boy Dad by Barstool Sports
In this episode, "Stuy Town," the hosts dive into an offbeat and deeply personal journey through everyday struggles, recent achievements, and philosophical riffs about adulthood. The topic lens ranges from Lil Sasquatch’s troubling eye sty (“Stuyvesant” pun intended) to eSports victories, absurd home hygiene confessions, the state of insurance in America, and building a healthy worldview post-college. The trio's comedic, irreverent tone persists throughout as they trade stories, self-roast, and support each other, offering an authentic peek into what it means to be finding your way as a young adult.
Complaint: Harry is suffering from a painful sty on his right eye, cracking, “The Mayor of Stuy town, Stuyvesant.”
Riffing on Causes: Hilarious speculation on the cause (e.g., “from eating ass in Boston” - 01:36) morphs into a riff on culinary hygiene and regional stereotypes.
Medical Confusion: The group debates the difference between styes, pink eye, and folliculitis.
“I feel like pink eye’s much more shameful than a sty.” — Francis (03:28)
Suggested Remedies: Roan suggests lid scrubs and warm compresses; jokes about “just touching my eyes” causing further spread (45:12).
Harry surprises Roan with a hand-blown glass fish bong, courtesy of Blue Lobster Cannabis Company.
“It’s a stunning, stunning piece of art.” — Harry (07:46) “500 on my neck and it’s a fucking fish bong, dude.” — Francis (08:03)
Conversation drifts into glassblowing as an underappreciated art, with Netflix show references, and usage beyond bongs (lightbulbs, stemware).
Boston’s Transformation: Harry praises Boston’s surprising cleanliness and elegance, the “Beacon Hill butthole” riff turning heartfelt:
“From the apartment buildings to... Beacon Hill… the most charming, stunning neighborhood I’ve ever seen in any city in the world.” — Harry (15:05)
Homelessness Commentary: America vs. Europe, and how harsh winters drive the homeless south.
Speaking at Harvard: Francis shares experience giving informal career advice to Harvard men’s lacrosse team, encouraging non-traditional (beyond finance) careers:
“...there’s options out there for them professionally other than finance… I have a really cool life and a really cool job.” — Francis (19:51)
Bush eSports Team: Rone breaks down the team’s big victory, outlasting 450+ competitors — massive commitment for their amateur squad.
“We won the whole thing… for us obviously, we were fucking psyched.” — Roan (24:19)
Marathon Gaming: Two days; first day was “a total joke,” second day was 14+ hours with technical delays and “torching” (delaying) tactics by other teams.
Jerry as Content King: Both Harry and Roan praise co-worker Jersey Jerry’s comedic brilliance, despite fan grumbling about work ethic:
“Jerry is one of the... funniest people that works at Barstool. Easily.” — Roan (27:53)
Debate: Should the Bush team aim for pro status (CDL) or focus on content?
“Once you get into the top league... it becomes more of like a business. Salaries, coach, merch…” — Roan (36:37) “You’ll make money off the content no matter what. Like, Jerry could be yelling at the commissioner of this tiny league, or... the big league and it’s still funny.” — Francis (39:03)
Promotion/Relegation in CDL: Discussion on structural barriers and the financial hazards of eSports orgs.
“There was a time where it was like that. Luckily, that’s not an issue anymore. Or keep it tidy.” — Roan (41:49)
“I think the Bills are going to win the Super Bowl. Mark it.” — Harry (64:34)
“They’re just throwing as much red tape… as they possibly can to quite simply avoid having to pay for an expensive drug.” — Francis (68:45) “Insurance makes its money betting that you’re not going to get sick.” — Harry (69:46)
“If… I start reverting to my rather disconsolate self, don’t blame it on me… It is the fault of Anthem, Blue Cross, Blue Shield.” — Harry (73:26)
The trio maintains a brutally honest, self-deprecating, and quick-witted rapport. They oscillate between legitimate life advice (“there’s more to life than finance”), to deeply unserious bits (glass bongs shaped like trout, grainy debates about ball shaving), to airing frustrations about adulthood (insurance problems, hygiene struggles, blurry self-worth after dropping out of college). This mix of absurd humor and cathartic real talk is what makes the episode so inviting for fans and newcomers alike.
Episode #358 of Son of a Boy Dad combines sharp, wild humor with slices of modern young adult struggle—emphasizing friendship, self-doubt, hustle, and moments of unexpected wisdom. Whether dissecting the nuances of pink eye vs. styes, celebrating gaming triumphs, or bemoaning the broken health care system, the show stays relatable and hilarious.
For more episodes and content from Son of a Boy Dad, visit Barstool Sports podcast page.