Telluride Bush Support Group | Son of a Boy Dad #410

Summary

Son of a Boy Dad #410: "Telluride Bush Support Group" Barstool Sports | June 16, 2026

Episode Overview

In this candid and chaotic episode, the Son of a Boy Dad crew (Sass, Rone, Francis, Jerry, and Mook) gathers in Barstool’s Chicago office to hash out the drama and inner workings around their esports team "Telluride Bush." Lil Sasquatch reveals the emotional fallout of recent podcast mistakes, opens up about getting in trouble with fans and upper management, and explores what it means to be adrift post-college. The boys blend classic Barstool riffs with confessions, war stories, and their signature comedic tangents—from crack-era hustling to South Jersey break-ins, Twitter’s dark side, and international esports rivalries.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Telluride Bush Drama & Management Woes (02:11–19:10)

• Bush C-Suite on the Hot Seat: The team dives into rumors about their supposed million-dollar salaries, with jokes about who actually makes what and poking fun at Dave Portnoy’s viral tweet claiming each of them nets $333K/year.
• Accidental Leaks & Backlash: Sass recounts sharing sensitive organizational details on a prior episode, which triggered fan and management backlash, and led to personal doubt. "Maybe I should text Tyler and have him cut that. Oh, you thought about it like, 15 times." (Sass, 04:09)
• Vague Explaining, Damage Control: The group attempts to explain the controversy without specifics, noting the real trouble stemmed from a private convo becoming public, and unintentional management drama.
• Fan Reaction and Team Morale: Sass details the "tough days" the fallout caused, both for himself and the esports squad, feeling at odds with fans, players, and Barstool staff: "I mean, I was just getting it from every angle. Every angle." (Sass, 06:19)
• Inside Baseball Lingo: The crew introduces in-group lingo ("fries," "checked," "needs to get shot") and jokes about the sensitive nature of esports players: "They go from being in a good place to a really bad place really fast... Like, if one thing happens, they're like, it's over." (Sass, 07:20)
• Financial Realities vs. Perception: They laugh about the misconception that Bush management is "Saudi rich," sharing how Dave's tweet reignited expectations they’re mega-funded. In reality, the squad runs on tight budgets, often running errands for players' comfort.

Twitter, Social Media, and Internet Insanity (10:46–14:38)

• Francis Quits Twitter: Francis deleted his 300K-follower Twitter to avoid fan tagging and toxic commentary: "I deleted an account that had...I had grown over nine years to 300,000. Completely gone." (Francis, 10:46)
• Dark Side of Timelines: The hosts riff on how Twitter can quickly serve up dark or explicit content ("I'm on tit Twitter now. Bookmark a couple titties and they start feeding you more titties." —Mook, 11:59) and discuss the algorithm's unpredictability and public scrolling hazards.

Esports Team Management: Players, Perks, and Unreal Expectations (16:30–19:40)

• Treating Players Like "Princes": Sass and Mook detail the slippery slope of being over-generous with players at events (running for Tylenol, Benadryl, cookies) and how initial pampering backfired.
• Escalating Demands: Mook shares: "Our new player wants me to pay his rent." (Mook, 18:54)
• Boundaries and Burnout: The cast emphasizes the impossibility of meeting endless player demands, especially with financial misconceptions running rampant.

Travel Mayhem & Barstool Logistics (20:20–23:48)

• Cancelled Flights and Sandwich Turf Wars: Francis and Sass recount a day of booking flights at dawn due to cancellations and the hierarchy of sandwich distribution among Barstool staff and event competitors.
• Sandwich Law & FA Regulations: Francis laments how staffers (jokingly) police access to perks, comparing it to federal oversight: "It is funny how much I am, like, somehow breaking sandwich laws and FAA regulations at the same time." (Francis, 23:28)

Life Stories, Crack Hustling, and Homeless Generosity (34:59–44:48)

• College Degrees, Debt, and Addictive Hustle: Jerry reflects on his past—earning more money as a drug dealer on crack than many college graduates. "I was on crack, making more than that..." (Jerry, 35:02)
• Crack Addiction Candidness: Jerry offers dark humor-laced stories of addiction: "For me, it did the opposite. It was a downer...I'd just be peeking out the window for like eight hours." (Jerry, 36:50)
• Giving Back: Homeless Donations: Jerry describes giving a homeless man $250 and the complicated feelings around generosity and addiction: "That's irresponsible." (Host, 40:44), "I've been there, man." (Jerry, 40:47)
• Modern Panhandling with Venmo: Sass shares: "A homeless dude...took his phone and sent himself 20 bucks on my Venmo." (Sass, 44:35)

Riffing on Race, Immigration, and Global Esports Rivals (31:25–55:42)

• Russians, Asians, and Cultural Camouflage:
  • Francis: "I think that's because we fear them." (re: why Russians in the US don’t experience overt public backlash, 32:28)
  • Sass: "It's because they're white. That's the big one." (32:37)
  • Side discussions about Chinatown, Flushing, and the dynamics of New York immigrant communities.
• Esports and International Competition:
  • Saudis’ Oil Money: "Like all this... we're like, 'We need to buy... Their oil money.' It's insane. They have handlers for their players." (Sass, 53:40)
  • Deep-dive into Arab team camaraderie: "You guys know you're in trouble when your players start praying five times a day." (Francis, 54:09)
  • The peculiar realities of international esports, with stories of Saudi teams, expectations, and high-stakes pressure brought by "handlers."
• Caste, Racism, and Twitter Hate:
  • "Most white supremacists are Indian." (Sass, 51:22)
  • Banter about the social divides and intra-ethnic perceptions among Indian, Latin, and Middle Eastern groups.

Life Transitions, Jersey Stories, and Generational Change (64:52–68:06)

• Jersey Migrations and Crime:
  • Jerry recounts his mother moving from North to South Jersey after a car theft, reflecting generational and demographic neighborhood changes.
• 55+ Communities & Aging:
  • The advantages of moving into senior communities early: "You want to get in...if you're too late, you just wind up in hospice." (Host, 67:40)
  • Gallows-friendly Barstool banter about nursing home abuse: "You're guaranteed to get sexually abused by Jamaican...It's in the fine print." (Host, 68:14)

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Standout Quotes & Memorable Moments

On accidental oversharing on the pod:

• "I was just going for it right behind my...I'll talk a little bit about the inner workings of Bush...The next day, the entire day I told you guys kept coming into my head, and I kept on being like, maybe I should text Tyler and have him cut that." — Sass (04:09)

On being overzealous esports managers:

• "We went too crazy. We treated them like they were literally like princes." — Sass (16:54)

On Twitter and dark content:

• "I'm on tit Twitter now. Bookmark a couple titties and they start feeding you more titties." — Mook (11:59)

On giving money to the homeless:

• “You gave a homeless guy 250. Started crying. That's irresponsible." — Host & Jerry (40:42–40:46)

On racial tensions and America’s perception of Russians:

• "I think that's because we fear them." — Francis (32:28)
• "It's because they're white. That's the big one." — Sass (32:37)

On global esports rivals:

• "They're backed by, like, billions of dollars...these guys can't even imagine." — Sass (53:34)
• "You guys know you're in trouble when your players start praying five times a day." — Francis (54:09)

On Barstool’s sandwich economy:

• "It is funny how much I am, like, somehow breaking sandwich laws and FAA regulations at the same time." — Francis (23:28)

On 55+ Communities:

• "You want to get in early because you miss. Try to get in at 8 to be there…Let's go to the nursing home or something." — Host (67:49)

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Important Segments and Timestamps

• 02:11—Bush management jokes & financial misconceptions revealed
• 03:41–05:31—Sass's self-doubt after oversharing, "getting got," and fan backlash
• 07:17—Gamer and esports culture, their volatility/mood swings
• 10:46—Francis explains leaving Twitter; discussion of online toxicity
• 16:30—"Saudi prince treatment" of esports team, player demands escalating
• 20:20—Travel chaos, flight cancellations, and food hierarchies at Barstool
• 34:59–44:48—Crack hustle stories, panhandling, and giving to the homeless
• 51:03—Discussion of Indian Twitter racism and supremacist culture
• 53:34–56:02—Saudi esports teams, oil money, and competition
• 62:22—If Europeans visited America, where would they go?
• 64:52–68:06—Jerry on his mom's move from North to South Jersey for safety, 55+ community life

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Conclusion

"TELLURIDE BUSH SUPPORT GROUP" offers a turbocharged blend of office politics, esports management confessions, and regional nostalgia, all spiced with irreverent, unfiltered humor. Listeners are taken on a rapid-fire ride—from accidental HR-level leaks to global Call of Duty drama and the struggles of adulting after college. The four hosts hold no punches: expect inside jokes, real talk about addiction and recovery, and the most Barstool take possible on everything from Twitter boobs to nursing home perils.

Subscribe for more behind-the-scenes insanity, and definitely don’t ask Jerry for rent money.

Transcript

[Host]

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[Sass]

All righty. Welcome back to the Son of a Boy dad podcast. It is a day in June. I don't know what today is.

[Francis]

15th.

[Sass]

It's the 15th. It is June 15th and we are here live from Chicago. We are in the Chicago office.

[Host]

We're joined by the esteemed members. Very important day. We have all of Telluride Bush's upper management. We have the C suite of Telluride Bush in the building right now. And what better time to have Telluride Bush after we found out that you guys make $9,999,999 a year between the three of you and we're gonna find out right now who makes what.

[Mook]

I don't.

[Host]

I don't want to be here at all.

[Mook]

This is a Get in Trouble podcast.

[Francis]

This is what?

[Mook]

This is a gotcha podcast.

[Francis]

It's not a gotcha It's. It's a get got.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And we often get ourselves got.

[Host]

Yeah. Francis, they said that. That I'm. I'm the hot. I'm dipping everybody in hot water.

[Francis]

They. They. So they were mad at me too, for not. For not not removing the noose from Harry's neck. It's like, well, what do you want me to. You know, I didn't know he was building a gallows and the whole thing.

[Host]

Francis gets in hot. More than hot water than anybody.

[Francis]

I'm a. I'm a bag of tea. Little tea bag.

[Mook]

You two are lifeguards. You let Harry drown last episode.

[Francis]

I won't let that stand.

[Mook]

The other way. You look the other way. And you. You let him dig a hole.

[Francis]

We know. What is his confidential information? We were asking. I just said, how's the book?

[Mook]

Everything.

[Jerry]

Now you can't say anything anymore.

[Sass]

Oh, no, I don't. Talk about working.

[Jerry]

Yeah. Might as well cut the pod right now.

[Host]

It's a gag order. No. We could give Harry a pool floaty to save himself, and he would just stab it.

[Mook]

Yeah, he did go rogue.

[Sass]

Yeah, I went rogue. It was tough. Yeah, it was tough. I don't know what. I really don't know what I was thinking. I think I was thinking, podcast is almost over. Can't wait to go home.

[Host]

You're like, phil, some air.

[Sass]

Yeah, I was just kind of just going for it right behind my. I'll talk a little bit about the inner workings of Bush. And then I guess. Yeah, I mean, I watched it back, though. I. The crazy thing was, the next day, the entire day I told you guys kept coming into my head, and I kept on being like, maybe I should text Tyler and have him cut that. Oh, you thought about it like, 15 times.

[Francis]

That's usually a pretty good sign. Anytime I've had that thought, I'm like, yeah, I'm. If I'm worried.

[Host]

I said, what slur.

[Sass]

I. I feel like every time I do that, I'm always overreacting. And then this time I was not.

[Host]

When I watched the clip back on Viva last year or whatever, I never watched it. It was like, the first time I was seeing it, I was like, oh, my God, too much. Why is he saying all this? Like, I wasn't in the room, and

[Mook]

then you two are sitting there like investigators, like, so what does that mean?

[Sass]

Yeah, I was watching it.

[Francis]

I. Yeah, it's interesting information. I didn't know that you guys were about to have. Why don't we just. Can you explain what.

[Sass]

Yeah, I Can explain it in the most vague way possible. But pretty much what happened was, you know, we. Well, we were doing Boy Dad. Tough episode of Boy dad as well. We can talk about that. I really. It was just a really, really tough day for me.

[Jerry]

What do you mean?

[Sass]

Wednesday, Thursday, Friday were probably three of the worst days I've had in a while. Just a really, really bad.

[Host]

What are you talking about?

[Sass]

Well, I mean, the Boy Dad. We clearly didn't have a lot to talk about. We're all going to Chicago. We knew. We were all, like. It was like we had a bunch of shit coming up. Everyone was getting back from stuff. We didn't have a lot to talk about. The Trump glass rant was maybe a little bit much. Maybe we didn't need to talk about it for 45 minutes. And then.

[Francis]

I don't even remember what we said.

[Sass]

You guys didn't say anything. I was just. Just kept on digging the hole into the Trump glass.

[Host]

It was. Once you had set that precedent, there was no digging you out of any holes that you had.

[Sass]

I don't even know what I was.

[Host]

You were on a war path to nothing.

[Francis]

Ye.

[Host]

Nowhere.

[Sass]

I wasn't trying to accomplish anything. There was nothing to accomplish. And then after that. So then at that point, all the Boy dad fans are like, sass sucks. We hate him now. And then leading into that, I go into the bush thing, where then I get Jerry and Mook in trouble. Austin's in trouble. The fans are furious. The players are mad at me. The players are like. They're saying, I terrorize.

[Mook]

They said, sass, nuke the bush.

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[Francis]

Oh, no. Oh.

[Jerry]

So I was.

[Sass]

I mean, I was just getting it from every angle. Every angle.

[Host]

Oh, no. Yeah.

[Jerry]

Just some inside lingo. Ron and Francis, they like to say, like, fries.

[Sass]

Yeah, it's fries.

[Mook]

It's fries.

[Jerry]

What? That means like, you're working at, like, McDonald's.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Like, they all say, like, this year. Like, they'll be like, it's fries. After, like, if we don't win this tournament, it's fries.

[Host]

Oh, love that.

[Francis]

That's the best one I've heard.

[Host]

Pretty cool, right?

[Francis]

That's so much better than the other one. They do. No, checked. Checked.

[Sass]

Check.

[Francis]

Yeah. Checked is not as good as fries,

[Mook]

or they'll be more forward and say, sass needs to get shot.

[Host]

What's that? What does that mean?

[Jerry]

Sometimes they wake up and they just text the groom. They're like, somebody shoot me.

[Host]

I didn't even see my lingo. That seems straightforward. It doesn't seem like Slang.

[Sass]

They're very like. I don't know what the word is to use because I was watching the Counter Strike Major this weekend. I was thinking the same thing. I don't know if it's all like esports players or what, but they're like. They're like. They're like abnormally sensitive.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Like, they. They're in your.

[Host]

Your team is. I'm going to stop you right here because I feel like you're about to say something that's going to have something bad.

[Sass]

No, I'm not saying them specifically, but it's like all gamers, it seems like they get. They go from, like, being in a good place to a really bad place really fast.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Like, if one thing happens, they're like, it's over.

[Mook]

And that's why they're friends with Jerry.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Because Jerry's same way, does the same thing.

[Mook]

Jerry comes in the office and shut down. It's bad day, terrible day.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Yeah.

[Mook]

I'm out of here.

[Jerry]

Just drive. Walking this morning. When I say I walked in this morning and I was like, just sat down. Mook walks in. He's a yo. Can I get you for like a little Instagram story? I'm like, nah, the bush is dead. Bush died last night.

[Mook]

That's every day.

[Jerry]

Every day.

[Mook]

Every day I come in here, I'm like, positive attitude. I got sunlight. And then Jerry just goes, I'm going back to Jersey. This is over.

[Sass]

Yeah, I'm done now. It dies daily.

[Host]

So explain. Explain if someone's just watching this episode as a one off. Explain what you said and what hot water it got you in. You said you wanted to be in charge of your own.

[Sass]

Well, we're not going to get into all that.

[Francis]

We're.

[Jerry]

Look, I just want to look what you're doing. Look what you're doing.

[Mook]

Right.

[Sass]

Tying the cinder blocks onto my ankle.

[Mook]

Literally 45 pounds.

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[Francis]

That's so ridiculous.

[Mook]

There you go with the one of them.

[Francis]

But hold on a second, hold on a second.

[Sass]

We don't talk about this.

[Francis]

We don't. Fundamentally. You guys didn't really tell us which part of it was so bad. We don't have to talk about it.

[Sass]

I briefly explained it in the other room, but it was like. The reason it was bad was because, A, it was supposed to be a private conversation. B, we had the conversation with Austin right after we recorded Son of a Boy, dad, and the meeting went very well.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Like, we were all like, we're all on the same page. We get it now.

[Jerry]

Some clarity.

[Sass]

Yeah, we Got some Claire. We're just gonna put our head heads down and grind for the rest of the year.

[Francis]

Well, I know, I know it must have go morning. You say that a meeting went well.

[Sass]

We all left that meeting. Like, I think that cleared up a lot of things. Like we're all in a good space

[Francis]

now because you do 14 meetings a day.

[Sass]

Yeah, there's a lot of meetings.

[Host]

So you're 14 meetings. Why?

[Francis]

Yeah, so you're, you're, you're appraisal of

[Sass]

a. I can gauge a good meeting.

[Francis]

No one has more meeting experience than you do.

[Sass]

No, I'm, I'm big into meetings.

[Francis]

You're like an ambassador, like an Indian chief.

[Host]

You are. But, but.

[Sass]

So that meeting went well.

[Host]

But then maybe a little peek behind the curtain after the meeting. Like what's everybody's moods? You know what I mean?

[Sass]

After the meeting, everyone's moods is like, hey, that, that makes sense.

[Jerry]

Probably going to be like next year. Probably like fully funded and not worry about any budget at any major like going into the year next year.

[Host]

Really.

[Jerry]

Like, hey, this is the butcher's budget. Bush's budget for the year.

[Sass]

For the year.

[Jerry]

You guys are good.

[Mook]

We have a concrete plan in place this year. We're running around like chickens with our heads cut off next season. We're organized.

[Sass]

Yeah, that's like our big concern was like, we don't want to have to do this. Like, are we going to get the funding or not? And then Austin pretty much said like, we're gonna have a meeting at the end of the year. Go over everything and decide that.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Sass]

And then the clip came out, obviously from Viva Lestool or whatever. Which one posted it? Yeah, Neil posted it.

[Host]

Those are the, those are the cinder block people. We're not the cinder block guys. Yeah, those are the lifeguards who are sleeping on the job.

[Francis]

Do you have no idea? You guys asked me why I nuked my Twitter. Why?

[Sass]

Why I fried my Twitter with Neil

[Francis]

and it was because I just didn't want those people to be able to tag me anymore. Yeah, I deleted an account that had. I had grown over nine years to 300,000.

[Jerry]

You're still off Twitter.

[Sass]

You deleted the full.

[Francis]

Completely gone.

[Jerry]

Oh, wow.

[Host]

He didn't private you.

[Jerry]

How's it feel?

[Francis]

Like zero difference. Not positive, not negative. Just doesn't. I don't know. It doesn't matter.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Oh, no, I'm not, you know, watching a transsexual be run over by that. Oh, no.

[Host]

And we send him that screen. Record the coffee.

[Francis]

J. So much worse. Without the fucking stimulus of, you know, a firing squad murdering a child.

[Sponsor Reader 1]

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[Francis]

In Abu Dhabi or something.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Twitter's a really bad place.

[Host]

You missed a good one this week of a Russian dude who beats up an old man in an elevator.

[Sass]

Oh, I love those.

[Host]

Any of you guys.

[Sass]

I saw one of a bunch of dudes that. They threw a guy off a building. You see this one? And they found out that he wasn't, like, tethered into the bungee.

[Host]

It was a woman.

[Jerry]

That was a girl.

[Host]

It was a woman. And it was off of a cliff.

[Sass]

Yeah, that one I watched and I was.

[Jerry]

Your Instagram story. No, that morning, she's like, who the hell is letting me jump off a bridge? That was on her Instagram?

[Host]

Wow.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Host]

So that's what you're missing.

[Sass]

You're missing.

[Host]

You're missing heat.

[Sass]

Yeah, I saw that. I watched that video and then I was like, what the was that? And then I read the caption and I was like, okay, so I just watched someone die. Pretty much that was what that was.

[Mook]

I've fixed that, by the way.

[Host]

How?

[Mook]

I'm on tit Twitter now. Bookmark a couple titties and they start feeding you more titties.

[Sass]

That could be. That can be a darker place.

[Jerry]

Yeah. Because that could turn into dick Twitter. Yeah, I've got caught a couple dicks. Yeah.

[Host]

Wait, what do you mean? Like, sex dicks or just, like, just raw penis? Penis. So you can't scroll in public then?

[Mook]

No, no, no, no, no. I can't scroll. Like, even if on. I'm on stream and I pull up my Twitter, I have to, like, do it off screen and then search.

[Host]

Really?

[Mook]

But it's better than guys dying.

[Sass]

It's definitely better than guys dying.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Francis]

You're definitely. I could see you mook being like, you want your phone. The second you queue it up to have some kind of Dicks.

[Host]

Dicks and boobs.

[Francis]

You're a big smut guy.

[Mook]

Yeah. Dicks.

[Francis]

And you're a smart guy. No, some dicks.

[Sass]

Dicks is crazy.

[Mook]

The dicks are collateral. The. The dicks are the cost of the boot.

[Host]

You catch a dick. Yeah. You don't. Yeah. You're not like, hunting dick. You just catch a dick. It just wanders into your trap.

[Mook]

Hunting tits. And then dicks fall. Yeah, exactly.

[Francis]

That's your tax. Yeah.

[Host]

They're saying tits are back.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Host]

That one girl. Who's that one girl with the. Well, she's like a crazy. She's like a superhero name. She just walked a red carpet and she Has. Do you know who I'm talking about?

[Sass]

Describe her tits, it might make it easier.

[Francis]

Oh, she's the Australian girl for the Sports Illustrated swimsuit.

[Host]

See?

[Francis]

Oh, she's unbelievably good looking. I've never seen anything like her.

[Sass]

I don't know her.

[Francis]

Where did she come from?

[Host]

Absolute jubblies is how.

[Jerry]

I just seen the World Cup. They're. They're showing.

[Host]

Yeah. World Cup. It's international titties. Yeah, it's like for the World Cup. So it's like a good time for tits.

[Francis]

Good, yeah.

[Host]

What is it? She has like a cool name. Yeah, she has like a cool different name. How'd you catch wind of her?

[Francis]

You know, newspaper. I was a little magazine got scent. It was a little down standing down wind, you know. I said, oh my God. Does that smell like tits?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Some grass in the air, 30 yards north.

[Host]

Did you find. Did you find her book?

[Mook]

I tried. I hit three scrolls. I couldn't find her. I found other tits. Not her tits.

[Jerry]

I never see tits on the timeline.

[Sass]

No, never. Really never.

[Jerry]

I don't know why. Just never. I don't. Maybe I'm not a tick guy.

[Sass]

That's probably why.

[Host]

Oh, your ass.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Like I don't know what to do with the tit, you know what I mean? It's like if they're on top, it's like, do I suck it, do I touch it? And then like you go to sucking, sometimes you miss, like, oh, what am I doing? I mean, you missed, you missed the nipple. You know what I mean?

[Host]

It's just dealer's choice though.

[Francis]

Nothing like getting a whole mouthful of meat. Yeah, meat, no nip. Just, just. It's like kissing a wall. There was. I knew it was. Well, my eye. Mouth coordination is not what it used to be. I'm with you on that.

[Jerry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

It's like being a baby. You got to grab it. It's really a two hand thing. Like you're drinking a bowl of soup.

[Jerry]

Which one do you touch too? Like what am I to run?

[Host]

Yeah, it's. Oh, because you have paralysis by analysis. You're like, there's so much to do here. So many options.

[Jerry]

Exactly. Do I bite it? Do a nibble on it? You know what I mean? I don't know what to do.

[Host]

So everything's going good with the bush at this point. Like before the clip comes out. Everything was good before the clip comes out. And then the clip comes out and then where's everybody's head at from there?

[Sass]

Yeah, really bad.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Host]

Who's. Who's the worst?

[Mook]

Jerry gets me. Right?

[Sass]

I mean, I call. I got a call from Mook and Jerry and to be honest, I didn't really even know. Like I didn't know. There's gonna be any backlash to that, right?

[Host]

To Bush, right?

[Sass]

There was lots.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Yelling from what I've heard.

[Host]

From whom?

[Sass]

Can't say, Won't say.

[Host]

Austin.

[Sass]

Whoa, no.

[Host]

Austin yelled at who?

[Sass]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[Mook]

Nope.

[Sass]

We're gonna move on.

[Mook]

Nope.

[Sass]

We're just gonna move, right?

[Mook]

Nope.

[Host]

Austin, he yelled at you guys.

[Mook]

Weights. No weights on my.

[Sass]

Jerry, talk to us a little bit about this. Bears stadium. What is going on with the Bears?

[Host]

Austin yelled at you guys?

[Jerry]

I didn't say that.

[Host]

That's so crazy. No, that's hilarious. You think he heard himself?

[Sass]

And I'm sure if he did, he probably had a good reason to.

[Host]

Yes, yes, of course.

[Sass]

But I don't think he would ever do something like that.

[Host]

Did any of you guys talk to Dave directly or. It was just Dave tweeted out twice.

[Sass]

Dave just tweeted out.

[Host]

Dave tweeted that you guys are rich. It's like you guys all each make $333,000. That's good. Yeah.

[Mook]

Terrible that doing that math. Me up. Me up.

[Jerry]

Good.

[Mook]

I mean I was doing. I was doing algebra.

[Host]

Yeah, because you're like, I know what A equals.

[Mook]

Exactly.

[Host]

So what does B and C equal?

[Mook]

If I was doing five figures plus X equals seven. Yeah.

[Jerry]

They were even talking about it on the Call of Duty broadcast.

[Sass]

Yeah, the seven figure team. Yeah. That was tough.

[Host]

Isn't that usually like the players too

[Mook]

would be worth seven figures now the players think we're like Saudi princess.

[Sass]

That's the biggest. That's the biggest problem because we've been trying to get it across to them for the last. Since Dallas. Look at the first tournament we did was Dallas. Dallas. We went too crazy. We treated them like they were literally like princes.

[Host]

What you do?

[Sass]

Just buying them everything they wanted.

[Host]

Like what?

[Sass]

Like, like going out to get dinner for them. Like. Yeah, all this. It cost thousands of dollars. Medicine.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Drug.

[Sass]

Medicine.

[Mook]

Hard drugs. No, actual medicine.

[Sass]

Actual like Tylenol and Benadryl.

[Host]

Thought you were Saudi, cuz you got

[Sass]

them D. Yeah, they were all sick, bro. We had the whole weekend we were just driving around getting them.

[Mook]

They had sass run into Walgreens multiple times a day.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Like it was not one of them was actually sick. They were just stocking their medicine cabinets for later cuz they knew you guys were suckers.

[Jerry]

Yeah, yeah. It'd be like, late at night, they'd be like, yo, I'm crav some cookies right now. All right, we'll get you some cookies then.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Literally, we be like, all right. Yeah.

[Host]

Well, like your pledges at a fraternity, you're just like, all right. Yes, sir. Whatever you need, sir.

[Sass]

Yeah. Cuz we thought, like. We pretty much thought, like, that's what they needed to perform well. And we've been trying to find, like, a fine line between that of, like, obviously we're going to help them out with dinner and stuff, but, like, yeah, maybe if you need Tylenol, like, you can go get some Tylenol, like, stuff like that.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Sass]

And then that tweet from Dave set that back months.

[Mook]

Oh, yeah.

[Sass]

Because now they're under the impression that we're all millionaires.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. And you can't. You guys can't differentiate, too. Like, mooc, you're gonna have to be spending a bunch of money on tylenol.

[Mook]

Oh, yeah.

[Sass]

MOOC's gonna have to be a millionaire.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Mook]

I mean, we got one kid, Spart. I remember the first major. He was like, I only drink at the setup. I only drink sweet tea with no sugar, though. And I was like, where do you even find that?

[Sass]

Yeah, we had to. We were. We were flying around town.

[Host]

How can you make sweet tea?

[Sass]

Exactly. Unsweetened.

[Mook]

Went to four different Walgreens.

[Sass]

Yeah, we did find it.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Host]

So it was bad. It was bad for a little bit.

[Sass]

It's bad now. It's still bad. There's. Now, the thing with the bush is there's always something new.

[Jerry]

Yeah. I mean, we're, like, in discord like, every day, every night to, like, 2 in the morning, just trying to figure

[Sass]

out what to do.

[Mook]

Our new player wants me to pay his rent.

[Jerry]

Yeah, that was crazy.

[Mook]

He was like, so, like, what are you guys gonna do to cover my rent? I was like, I can't cover my rent.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Mook]

Like, let me pay mine first.

[Sass]

Yeah, that's. That's not. That can't happen. Yeah.

[Host]

Have you guys thought about maybe roping in Francis to. To be part of this thing?

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Host]

You know what I mean? Of course.

[Sponsor Reader 1]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I got nothing.

[Host]

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[Francis]

So Harry and I, we had an interesting morning to say the least. This is hysterical. We were supposed to come in today and Harry, by virtue of living now five minutes from LaGuardia Airport has decided that he, well, effectively the plane won't leave until he gets there. Pretty much is the way he sees it. So. You know, I woke up very early. We had an 8:30am flight and got an immediately saw that our flight had been canceled.

[Sass]

So then cancel, full cancel.

[Francis]

Yeah. And then.

[Host]

Which should be illegal.

[Sass]

Should be illegal.

[Host]

They shouldn't be allowed to do that.

[Jerry]

It's crazy.

[Host]

That's absolute.

[Francis]

So then we're scrambling to find another flight and Roan and I are going back and forth on our chat with Harry. This is 5:50am yeah, it's 5:50am But I'm like, should we book this? That Harry. I know Harry's not. The flight's 8:30. Harry's not gonna wake up until 7:45.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

So I'm now like, I'm like booking Harry a flight. We're gonna talked about that. All of this is, you know, getting kind of. We're not sure what to do. I had booked another flight initially thinking. But this is before I decided you

[Jerry]

guys are booking flights.

[Host]

I sent, I sent Francis.

[Francis]

None of the travel coordinators, none of the travel coordinators were awake. What'd you say?

[Jerry]

You guys are like, like a well oiled machine. Nobody's booking your guys flight. Taking care of that for you.

[Francis]

Nobody's awake. It's, it was, you know, it's 6:00am here. Caitlin Walker is 5:00am in Chicago.

[Jerry]

Yeah, good point.

[Francis]

And Caitlin Walker, bless her heart, has lost all faith in me. Yeah, she. Well, because of him.

[Sass]

What Did I do? Oh, the first class stuff.

[Francis]

Bingo.

[Sass]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Francis]

She thinks that I'm like, like scheming Hannibal Lecter.

[Sass]

Yeah, yeah.

[Francis]

Like, if I'm getting on a plane, there needs to be shackles, armed guards, and there needs to be government approval and, like, oversight on a level. I literally, like, we were in Ireland and we decided to come home a day early and, like, everyone switched their flights and, like, all those guys were like, yeah, just put us on this one. And then I, like, texted her and I was like, yeah, we're all switching our flights. And she was like, I need express written approval from Riggs that you're allowed to do that.

[Mook]

Oh, you got that Two step verification.

[Host]

Yes. Double factor off.

[Mook]

And again, you need a sign note.

[Francis]

This is totally understandable from Caitlin Walker. I think she was given a directive that I am like, Guantanamo. Like, truly the. The hoops through which one must jump.

[Host]

I wonder when Austin gave her that directive.

[Sass]

That's up. That's between you and Austin.

[Francis]

Between Austin and God. Anyway, the point is, literally I walked in today to the office, and there I was starving. We were starving. I was saying to you as we were walking in, let's go get sandwiches. Let's go get sandwiches. And we walk in and there's. There's seven gigantic boxes of sandwiches. And I immediately walked in and I was like, oh, my God, thank God, sandwiches. And Caitlin goes, not for you.

[Sass]

Really?

[Francis]

And I was like, oh, why not? She's like, well, not yet. We'll see. This is you for the dozen players.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And I'm not here for the dozen. And then Big Cat, to his, you know, credit, came in and was like, here, just split a turkey with me. And he. He broke off half a turkey for me in front of Caitlyn.

[Host]

He's like, you could have a bite, right?

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah. She's just doing her job. I don't. I don't want a dog. Kaylin Walker. I love her. But there's. It is funny how much I am, like, somehow breaking sandwich laws and FAA regulations at the same time.

[Jerry]

That's why I ordered the food today. I knew that.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Host]

12 players played in the dozen this morning, and there were maybe 400 sandwiches.

[Sass]

That's what I was thinking. Like, how hungry are these? How hungry are these food?

[Jerry]

Goats it quick.

[Mook]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jerry]

Janitors are pocketing everything.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jerry]

It seemed late at night, parents are

[Francis]

taking it home to their kids.

[Mook]

We got guys freezing sandwiches around here.

[Jerry]

Stephen J. Eats like, the leftovers, like six days.

[Host]

Oh, yeah, really?

[Mook]

Every day. He's much that's unhealthy.

[Jerry]

Like we'll have like Sunday football and then like next Sunday, like, oh, there's wings from last week still here. And let's just eat the wings.

[Sass]

That's crazy.

[Jerry]

He's a big leftover.

[Host]

How do you even reheat wings like that?

[Jerry]

Microwave.

[Host]

You microwave wings from a week old?

[Mook]

He nukes them.

[Host]

Oh my God.

[Mook]

Four minutes in the mic.

[Francis]

They're bone. They're to start, they're on the bone, and by the end they're bump on the swings.

[Host]

I thought that Asian people are the best at reheating stuff. I thought that Asian people are masters of a walk. You throw something in a wok, you put a little oil in a wok or something like that.

[Jerry]

Spanish are good too.

[Host]

Yeah, Spanish, yeah, they should be pretty good.

[Francis]

You always got to bring, you know. I know you do, but like we're not competing. We're not doing Asia versus Mexico right now. As far as I can tell, they're not in the same group. Won the World Cup. But we ended up having a crazy morning and Harry and I, by the way, I texted him and I was like, hey, I'm driving to the airport, want me to pick you up? And he was like, haha, man, I don't know.

[Sass]

I just said, it's up to you.

[Francis]

I live five minutes from the airport. And I'm like, you're right, that is really gay that I offered to do that. And I'm gonna go and meet you there. There. So we finally get to the airport and we take off.

[Host]

You guys have to fly into Milwaukee.

[Francis]

We had to fly to Milwaukee.

[Host]

Every single flight into Chicago is booked or canceled today. Every seat on every flight. They're offering 2500 for people on my flight to take a different flight.

[Sass]

Kaylin Walker booked them all up for the dozen people booked every flight.

[Host]

And so me and Francis are texting at 5 in the morning being like, hey, should we call Harry and see if he can get on one of these other flights you try to book them on a United or an American trying to get any other. And we're like, I don't want to bother him because I feel like you'd be angry if we like started.

[Sass]

Well, I was reading the text at that point and then you said, start spamming. And that's when I replied and said, I'm awake.

[Francis]

That is such horseshit that we're like discussing you and you're just reading them,

[Host]

being like, these guys will figure out.

[Francis]

I wonder if they'll get It Right.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I wonder, should I. Oh, I'm not

[Jerry]

gonna get my frequent flyer miles.

[Host]

Make sure you put in my number.

[Francis]

It's better for me to enjoy.

[Sass]

As soon as I checked in, I was. I tried to see if they had first class, and then they didn't.

[Francis]

Yeah. So we finally ended up. We flew to Milwaukee. We got in an Uber from Milwaukee. This is the only way to do it.

[Sass]

And surprisingly, not that far. It wasn't like an hour and a half.

[Francis]

Yeah, pretty nice. There was no traffic either, but we

[Sass]

didn't take the standard. We had, like, stop lights the whole way. I don't know if you noticed.

[Francis]

I did notice.

[Sass]

I don't know where we were.

[Francis]

No, but it wasn't so bad.

[Sass]

No, it was easy.

[Francis]

And in the Uber, I had to take a call from my accountant where I was telling, you know, not be totally transparent about figure team. Yeah, I had.

[Host]

I had.

[Francis]

I got hit with a second quarter estimated federal and state tax bill for the quarter two of 2026. That was so high because they're basing it off of my earnings from last year when I won $350,000 in the Internet Invitational. And they're like, surely you'll make more this year. You're doing great. We're betting on you, Francis. I'm like, I'm never going to win that tournament again. Are you out of your mind?

[Sass]

That's what I said. I said, it's going to suck when you got to call them and tell them you want it again.

[Francis]

Yeah, I'd be happy to make that call.

[Host]

The IRS is betting on you. Yeah, the IRS is like, we know. France is good as hell.

[Francis]

It is tough. They. They make these estimated, you know, tax sort of assessments based on your earnings from the previous year. And then it's like, well, in theory, if I don't make that much, they'll send me it back, or I can put it forward, but I don't.

[Sass]

I don't, with that.

[Francis]

Have the money each quarter.

[Sass]

You can do, like, estimates.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah, I do. Estimated.

[Jerry]

Yeah. End of the year, do you ever

[Host]

get bang with, like, a big one?

[Jerry]

Last year was bad.

[Host]

Really?

[Jerry]

Yeah, really bad.

[Host]

You owed him a lot.

[Mook]

Yeah, a lot.

[Francis]

Well, he's eight tenths of the million dollars.

[Jerry]

This year was good. I don't know how.

[Sass]

Yeah, you said that.

[Jerry]

Like, I got off the phone, like, look, you hear that?

[Mook]

Yeah, I was throwing up out the wind.

[Host]

You got some back.

[Jerry]

I said, you see how much money I made? I. I'm getting money back. Well, I do. I Do do, like head of household. I got the two kids. So, like, I also. My fiance. Is it fiance?

[Francis]

Right, sure.

[Jerry]

Okay, cool.

[Host]

I don't know. I don't know your situation.

[Jerry]

I get confused on the, like, is the girl the fiance or is the guy the fiance?

[Francis]

No, they all both are. But for you, I think it would be fiance.

[Jerry]

Yeah, my fiance. So, like, I claim her too, as, like a dependent. Spend it because, like, she doesn't work. So I think that helps out a lot. But I did the same thing last year, but I made more money this year. I made less money last year and owed so much this year I made, like, way more money. And maybe you overpaid.

[Francis]

You got. You got a rebate of this year. That was his salary, right?

[Jerry]

Close to it.

[Host]

Claiming your fiance. Fiance.

[Jerry]

I don't know. I still don't know how taxes work.

[Mook]

Here's a. Here's a tip for you guys. You want to pay less in taxes, make less.

[Sass]

Yeah, it's true.

[Jerry]

Yeah, yeah, true.

[Host]

That's what my old accountant used to say. Whenever I'd be like, this is how much I owe. He's like, so you're complaining you made too much money this year? I fucking fired him,

[Francis]

by the way, people. I used to do a joke where I would say. I started doing a joke where I said, you know, people talk about being jealous in relationships. I don't get jealous anymore. And the way that you can avoid jealousy in relationships is date people you don't like very much.

[Host]

Yeah, that is really nice.

[Francis]

Don't have strong feelings for a person. They can do whatever they want.

[Host]

No jealousy.

[Francis]

Bubbles won't bother you.

[Host]

So you're in this high level conversation in the cab on the way down, talking to your finance people.

[Francis]

Yep.

[Host]

What? How did it land? Were you listening in on the conversation?

[Sass]

A little bit, but not fully.

[Francis]

You know, I had it on speaker. I wanted him to hear everything.

[Host]

Yeah. Flex on the boy a little bit.

[Francis]

I would never.

[Sass]

Driver was swerving here in the numbers.

[Francis]

Yeah, he was like.

[Host]

Yeah, he put in a call for a hostage situation.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Host]

Our driver, Wales.

[Francis]

Our driver was Russian. And it occurred to me, was he okay?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Either Russian or, you know, trying to

[Host]

get you down here. Quick.

[Francis]

Ukrainian, something like that. Right. But here's something that occurred to me, right? So historically, obviously, we've had a lot of problems with the Russians in America. And if you look back on history and in the times where we've been at odds with different countries, right? Like let's say Japan and World War II, Japanese Americans faced Incredible amounts of.

[Sass]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

Like prejudice and racial hate. All this stuff during that time. Right. Even during COVID Chinese, people were getting, you know, beaten up in the streets,

[Host]

thrown off of tracks.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Rinsed. Crazy.

[Francis]

By the way, Mook found the boobs, girl.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Yeah.

[Mook]

Penny.

[Francis]

He's just got it.

[Host]

Penny Lane.

[Francis]

He's just got it live. It's not even closed. It's just sit and on a loop.

[Host]

He wants to give her the clicks.

[Mook]

It's keep. It's keeping me at ease right now.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is his fidget spinner.

[Mook]

They're bouncing.

[Francis]

But I was gonna say, though, that, like. And I'm sure I'm wrong about this, I can't remember, at least in my lifetime, in spite of renewed animosity with Russia, a time where, you know, I've seen a clip of someone finding out that someone's one was Russian on the street or whatever and being like, get out of here, you dirty, risky rusk. And I think that's because we fear them.

[Sass]

I don't know if it's that or if it's. Well, I'll tell you two things. First, one, I'm going to tell you it's because they're white. That's the big one. No, I wonder.

[Francis]

I actually wonder. I wondered that, too. I wonder.

[Sass]

No one's going to see someone like, oh, my God, that person's slightly paler than I am. Let's get them.

[Francis]

Yeah, they're scary white people. They're scary white people, actually.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

And nothing is scarier than that now.

[Sass]

Yeah, they're foreign whites, you know.

[Francis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sass]

And so that's the first thing.

[Host]

I think they can hide in plain sight, too. They could be like.

[Sass]

Yeah, exactly.

[Host]

For a while, there was. My barbershop is all Russians. And when all this happened with Russia, they all pretended to be Ukrainian.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Oh, yeah.

[Sass]

That was a big thing.

[Host]

They can switch. Yeah, exactly.

[Mook]

Northeast Philly, ton of Russians.

[Host]

Right.

[Mook]

Russian or Ukrainians.

[Host]

And they'll just lie about it for a little bit.

[Jerry]

That's crazy.

[Host]

After. But even after, to your point, after September 11, like. Like, everybody hated brown people. Yes, it was. Everybody was anti brown people. And it didn't matter if you were from Afghanistan or Iran or whatever or like India, which is, like, very different.

[Sass]

Yeah, no, it didn't matter. It's just like if you're. Yeah, exactly.

[Host]

Whole different type of race.

[Francis]

I. I hated brown people for a while, but that was just before, way before that. It's just because we played them every year and I'm like, you Guys are barely an Ivy. The fuck out of here. Oh, Hermione Tiny goes to your school.

[Host]

Did she go to Brown?

[Francis]

She did.

[Host]

Don't they not have grades at Brown or some like, absolute. I think the whole school is like, pass fail.

[Francis]

It may well be. Yeah. It's certainly the most progressive.

[Host]

I think there's some absolute. And what's the Ivy League school where everybody kills himself?

[Sass]

Cornell.

[Francis]

Cornell.

[Host]

Cornell.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Sponsor Reader 1]

Really?

[Host]

Right. Yeah, Everybody.

[Sass]

Well, it's in like the middle of nowhere. Right.

[Francis]

All the way up in Ithaca, New York. The weather's horrible. It's very remote, and they have these gorges. They got nets from which you can jump.

[Sass]

Successful nets now, I think.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Wow.

[Sass]

Similar to like the. The Golden Gate.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

The stress from school and.

[Sass]

Yeah, probably.

[Francis]

I think so. And you know, again, it's Cornell. It's like barely an Ivy. It's like school is just a waste. You're gonna go all the way up there to get like a.

[Mook]

It is.

[Jerry]

I think it is.

[Host]

Because. Because school used to mean that you were guaranteed. If you went to college, you were guaranteed to be in, like, management.

[Jerry]

Oh, yeah.

[Host]

You were guaranteed to be like the guy in charge. And then everybody got in. And now the quality of people at most schools, like, they can't be that much smarter than the students. They're just staying a chapter ahead.

[Jerry]

I mean, people are going to college for like six years, getting out, making like 55, 000.

[Host]

Right. And they're. And they're 400, 000 in debt.

[Jerry]

I was on crack, making more than that. I was like. Had an active crack addiction, selling weed and making like 55

[Francis]

people.

[Host]

Really don't. Don't notice how much you can, like, make while you're on crack. Like, you can. You can make.

[Jerry]

You lose everything, but, like, you can lose everything.

[Francis]

I've, I've. I've let it. Let the secret out. Okay, I gotta go back to the narrative. No, it's bad. It's bad. It's actually bad. Ruins your life.

[Host]

Hunter Biden, I mean, there's probably some Charlie Sheen. There's probably some crack addicts who like. And that's got to be the toughest way. You don't even have to grind for your crack.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Host]

Just shows up on your doorstep.

[Francis]

By the way. Okay, there's a Instagram account. Hunter Biden.

[Host]

It's his son.

[Francis]

It is his son.

[Host]

Yeah. And he's got, like, the show and he's got, like, looking for my dad.

[Francis]

Exactly. I think it's his. Is it not his nephew.

[Sass]

You.

[Host]

Oh, I think it's his.

[Francis]

It's his son.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Cuz I. This guy, like, followed me and I'm like, oh, my God. V. Hunter Biden?

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sass]

He like, replied to like, he like, likes my stories all the time, I think.

[Francis]

Yeah, him too. And. And finally he messaged me one day and I'm like, hey, man, we, we. We love you. Yeah, he's a character. We'd love to. I said the same thing. I was like, if you ever want to come on the pod. And he was like, I think you're thinking of my dad. Dad or uncle or whatever.

[Mook]

Jerry, how much fun is Hunter Biden having right now?

[Jerry]

Right now? Like, like now he's been sober for

[Mook]

a while, but doing crack. And that's got to be a ball.

[Jerry]

Yeah, I was like, yeah, see, I was the opposite. Like, I never got to experience that. Like, there's guys out there that like, smoke crack just to like, jerk off for like 10 hours or get prostitutes. Like, I was the total opposite. I did it. Like I. I got stuck from it. Like, I never, like, it's an upper, but for me, it did the opposite.

[Mook]

It was a downer for you.

[Jerry]

Yeah, it was like. Like I'd just be peeking out the window for like eight hours, like, oh, they're coming for me. They're gonna kill me. My mom's like, upstairs, like cooking dinner and I'm like, in the bathroom.

[Mook]

That doesn't sound fun at all.

[Jerry]

No, Terrible. Yeah.

[Francis]

Boy, I can't wait to keep watch tonight. As soon as I'm done with this work, I get to get back into my. My vigilance.

[Sass]

Why would you keep doing it out the wind?

[Jerry]

Like, it's just the rush of it, so it's only like a 30 second high too.

[Mook]

And then you're just on guard.

[Jerry]

Yeah, dude, like, no.

[Francis]

You're rehiting though, aren't you?

[Jerry]

You have to keep doing it to like, get that feeling back, you know what I mean?

[Francis]

Chasing.

[Jerry]

Yeah, you're just.

[Mook]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jerry]

You're like chasing. Like chasing an airplane, bro.

[Host]

Doing it at home with your mom. Home.

[Jerry]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude. I remember one day, like, she called me and like, I just gotten fired from the shop, right? And I was backing. I was like a. A stalker. She called me and like, she knew full blown. Like, I'm a bad guy at this point. Hey, do me a favor. I forgot I'm cooking dinner tonight. Take out the pork chops from the freezer, let them defrost. I was like, all right, no problem. Now I'm now she's at work, and I'm running all day. I'm going. I'm like, walking a couple blocks in a project building every, like, hour to get crack. And it was like, 4:30. Mom gets home from work at like, 6. It's like 4:30. I'm like, the pork chops. It's like, do, bro. I got. I went upstairs, got him out the freezer, started burning them. Like, oh, this is bad. He gets home from work. They're like rocks. And she is like, you are the biggest scumbag of all time. I hate you so much. You know what?

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[Francis]

I'm a bad guy.

[Host]

You tried to quick defrost him with a lighter.

[Jerry]

It's a butane big one. Oh, yeah.

[Host]

You juiced up the flame.

[Mook]

Yes.

[Host]

W. That's so funny. Doesn't crack smell weird?

[Sponsor Reader 1]

Yeah, it does.

[Jerry]

I mean, I've gotten burned a lot too. Like, buying fake too, you know, selling a smoking Sheetrock.

[Francis]

Yeah, you said. You said smoking sheetrock.

[Jerry]

Yeah. That's like the worst.

[Francis]

That's the worst dupe of all the dupes. Sheetrocks. You're like, oh, no. Oh, again.

[Jerry]

You can't tell when you buy it. Then, like, when you go to put it and he's like, you hit the hit. It's like, it's cheap.

[Host]

You're like, I'm gonna need more,

[Francis]

but I wonder. My dealer's house is falling down.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

No, but it definitely. I mean, up my brain for sure.

[Sass]

Oh, yeah.

[Jerry]

I don't even sleep.

[Mook]

Yeah, you don't sleep anymore.

[Jerry]

Yeah, I don't sleep.

[Francis]

You said that you would go back to the projects every couple of hours. Why didn't you just buy enough in one go to have it scamming like

[Jerry]

you're scamming, like you're trying to get the money up every couple hours. You know what I mean?

[Francis]

Oh, so in the end, rich, like,

[Jerry]

I don't have to give us funds in the interim.

[Francis]

You would get high and then go find money.

[Jerry]

Or you just rob somebody or, like, rob something, sell something. You know what I mean?

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Try to get stuff on credit. Yeah. It's like, that's never ending cycle.

[Mook]

You're getting scam reps. That's why you're so good now.

[Sponsor Reader 1]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Wow. That's quick fire scams too.

[Jerry]

Yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Host]

So if you see somebody on the street. The street who's, like, asking for money, do you think. Do you feel like you have a pretty good sense of what. Which of those people are gonna use that Money to buy some drugs.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Host]

And you still give them the cash. Yeah, Right?

[Jerry]

Yeah, I'm giving out big dollars, too. I'm gonna go have a ball. Here's like six, two, like, three twenties I ever gave a guy. And I'll never Forget. It's like 2-5-50.

[Sass]

Damn.

[Host]

You gave a homeless guy 250.

[Jerry]

Started crying.

[Host]

That's irresponsible.

[Jerry]

I've been there, man.

[Host]

Yeah, but. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That's so generous. But also, like, why not like. Like, give him 55 different times, you know what I mean?

[Sponsor Reader 1]

Yeah.

[Host]

Like 250. Like, he can't even.

[Sass]

That becomes another mouth to feed.

[Jerry]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Host]

It's a dependent.

[Mook]

I mean, that's got to be the equivalent of, like, a Disney trip.

[Sass]

What the is that?

[Host]

It smells like someone hit one.

[Sass]

No, it smells like oil.

[Jerry]

Something's burning. I just got, like, a crazy ass.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Host]

If you smell it, it can't be that dangerous, right?

[Jerry]

No, gas is very dangerous.

[Sass]

No, that's. It was the bad one.

[Jerry]

Like, a light could just for all. No, that's gas.

[Sass]

Yeah. Something just smacked me in the face.

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[Jerry]

Like, did you know that with gas, like, if you hit. If, like, if there's, like, actually active gas leak and, like, you turn off a switch to a light, like, that could spark.

[Sass]

Oh, yeah. If you flick a light, y, it's over.

[Host]

You try to. You hear that defrost the. The. That rushing wind? Yeah, Yeah, I hear that too. It almost seems like there's, like, butane pouring into this.

[Jerry]

Like, actually getting scary now, bro.

[Sass]

I got hit with it, like, some. Like, it came from here, and it Felt like someone blew butane in my face.

[Host]

Is there a venom ghost of crackhead's past?

[Jerry]

Maybe Chef Donnie left the stove on.

[Host]

Spider.

[Mook]

Spider.

[Sass]

Nothing.

[Host]

I do smell it a little bit.

[Francis]

Yeah, it just came out, bro.

[Sass]

It hit me like someone sprayed gas in my nose.

[Jerry]

Does that ever happen?

[Host]

I've been in the studio a long time. I never nothing like this before.

[Mook]

I'll tell you what.

[Host]

It doesn't smell crazy out there. Should we just leave the door cracks or save our lives maybe? Or.

[Jerry]

I don't know.

[Francis]

We don't wanna.

[Sass]

I'm getting hit with, like, a breeze right here.

[Jerry]

Yeah, a breeze abuse.

[Sass]

Feels hot.

[Host]

It feels like a little bit hot on me right here.

[Sass]

I'm not smelling it as much as I was anymore.

[Francis]

Let's put it this way. Don't defrost any pork chops right now.

[Jerry]

Now wash through devil talking to me right now.

[Host]

You know what I mean?

[Mook]

You want me to leave this open?

[Host]

Nah, for the sound quality. We. We don't want.

[Francis]

People might have just.

[Sass]

They might have just cut the. Cut the gas.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Sound went away.

[Host]

The heat. The heat level in the room changed, too.

[Sass]

No, I went from, like, 0 to 100 fast.

[Jerry]

That's the devil right there.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Jerry. Remember that smell. Jer, Come back. Come back.

[Host]

Come back to the light side.

[Jerry]

I'm good now.

[Host]

250 is insane. Yeah.

[Jerry]

You still give money to the homeless?

[Host]

Yeah, of course I give money to the homeless. Yeah. Couple, but a couple bucks.

[Jerry]

Yeah, I do a couple bucks sometimes, too. You know what I mean? Like, depends on what I got in the wallet or in the car.

[Sass]

I used to way more than I do now. When I first moved to the city, it was like, I'd, like, go back to my apartment to get cash and give it to a homeless guy. And then I was walking to the stand one night. I told this story before, but I was walking to the. The stand in Union Square, and a homeless dude came up to me and asked me for money. And I was like, I don't got any cash, trash. And then he was like, what about Venmo?

[Jerry]

Wow.

[Sass]

And I was like, I don't know why? I was like, well, it's like, everyone's got Venmo. Yeah. And then I opened up Venmo on my phone, and he took. I was like, what's your Venmo? And he took his phone and sent himself 20 bucks.

[Mook]

Wow.

[Host]

At least it was only 20.

[Jerry]

Yes.

[Host]

He could have got you for 200.

[Sass]

Ever since then, that one kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

[Francis]

So yeah.

[Sass]

Been a little bit more stingy.

[Francis]

I've been bringing food to the homeless.

[Jerry]

They don't like that.

[Sass]

Yeah, they don't want that.

[Francis]

Oh, I don't know about that.

[Jerry]

Really.

[Francis]

Some of the ones that I've given it to

[Jerry]

ritual.

[Francis]

I'm also. I'm also giving them, like, nice stuff.

[Jerry]

Okay.

[Francis]

Like good beef jerky.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

That's good.

[Francis]

Pistachios.

[Jerry]

Nice.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Cuz, you know, I made it.

[Mook]

They don't want your almonds, bro.

[Francis]

I'm telling you. It was one of those. By the way, it was one of those Latin families and they. They were all together. Together.

[Jerry]

Okay. So there's, like, kids or there's like, migrants or clearly.

[Francis]

I think so. Okay.

[Host]

Certainly in New York, if there. If there's a family unit on the street together. Yeah, they just got here.

[Mook]

Yeah, they just got flowers or chocolate.

[Francis]

The right way to say they're asking the wrong guy.

[Host]

Latin is like, I am Os Arum. That's like the. The Roman emperors in Victoria.

[Francis]

Romana. No, they all hate each other, by the way.

[Sass]

The Latins.

[Jerry]

Oh, yeah. They all hate each other.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Mook]

They're daily.

[Host]

And they're all butted up against each other. Colombians by the Dominicans.

[Jerry]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

They ha.

[Jerry]

Dominicans. Yeah, they all hate each other.

[Francis]

Oh, wow.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Why?

[Jerry]

I don't know just how they are.

[Sass]

Interesting.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Host]

Because people lump them in together and they're like. Actually, we're like this, like, Haitians and Dominicans. They share an island and they're.

[Francis]

They hate each other.

[Host]

At war with each other.

[Sass]

Are the Haitians. The ones that.

[Francis]

But the Haitians aren't Latin.

[Sass]

Admit that they're not black.

[Host]

I know. That's Dominicans. I know. Black.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah. But Haitians aren't. Haitians aren't Latin. Latin. Right. They're Creole.

[Jerry]

I don't know.

[Francis]

French. They were former French colony.

[Sass]

That's a new one for me.

[Francis]

They speak Creole.

[Jerry]

Hearing that sound, like absorbing purses on

[Francis]

New York, I would think those are Haitians. I in on Canal Street. Those guys are from, like, West African. West African, yes, exactly. That is what I was.

[Host]

But then they. They lead you to the Chinese.

[Jerry]

Chinese.

[Francis]

Do they?

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

So those.

[Francis]

They work together.

[Host]

The Chinese, the old Chinese ladies who, like, wear gloves in the daytime, they're selling the fake Gucci purses.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Gotcha.

[Francis]

With the help of the Ivory Coast.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

[Sass]

That makes sense, because I've never seen a Chinese lady. I've only ever seen the. The Ivory.

[Francis]

The Ivory coasters.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've only ever seen Those guys selling tusks.

[Sass]

What would happen, like, if you were realistically to go over there and just steal all of the bags?

[Host]

There's a Nick Shirley video where he's walking down that street and they're all like, get the out of here.

[Jerry]

Yeah. They went at him.

[Host]

Are. You know Shirley?

[Jerry]

Yeah, yeah. Why? We talk.

[Host]

No, I'm saying he was on an old video that you did.

[Jerry]

I know.

[Host]

I just.

[Jerry]

We're friends. Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah. Well, how do you know from then?

[Jerry]

It's a long story.

[Francis]

Never heard of this guy.

[Jerry]

We.

[Host]

We became, you know, Nick Shirley. He's the guy that exposed all the daycares. The daycares in Minnesota. He was like the first guy that.

[Francis]

You don't know him. I'm not sure that I know him.

[Jerry]

You had to.

[Host]

I'm sure.

[Francis]

I've recognized. I'd recognize.

[Host]

Changed the American discourse.

[Jerry]

He did like, California. He ended up now.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Yeah. He's exposing everything.

[Francis]

Cool.

[Jerry]

Yeah. But then. Yeah, but the guy went like, the. The people in the corner went, like, after his camera and swinging at him and stuff.

[Host]

Yeah. His cameraman was kind of standing on it. His cameraman was like, spider. He was like. Like a Hispanic spider. Yeah. And he was just, like, flipping them off, but they kind of, like, beat the out.

[Jerry]

Oh, yeah.

[Mook]

Damn.

[Sass]

Wait, so why. Why were they going after him?

[Francis]

Is that what they are? Hispanic spider?

[Host]

A cucaracha?

[Francis]

A pinata?

[Host]

Because you walk down canal filming, and they're like the. Out of here with the cameras. Yeah, you cannot, because they were basically selling, like, shitty weed and fake bags and stuff. It's like, bro, you're in broad daylight in America.

[Sass]

No one's trying to stop you.

[Host]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jerry]

They don't really care anymore. I feel like.

[Host]

Yeah. I think if they didn't do anything, it's like the Streisand effect. Like, if they hadn't, I mean, what

[Sass]

are they going to do?

[Host]

The phrase Streisand effect?

[Francis]

I don't know.

[Host]

Use it.

[Francis]

What is it?

[Sass]

Like, it's like she. What she had. She bought a super expensive house.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

House.

[Sass]

And she didn't want anyone to find out about it, and then everyone found out about it.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

When you.

[Host]

When you conspicuously try to hide something and it brings more attention to it that you tried to hide it. Like, I. It. I learned it because I was in Jackson Heights and there was a girl who was clearly a hooker, and she saw the camera. She was like, oh. Like, no, you can't film here. And it's like, no one would have noticed you if you hadn't had such a big reaction. Yeah. Type of thing.

[Sass]

Yeah, yeah. And the cheetah print bag.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Host]

There was a lot of. A lot of hookers out in Jackson Heights.

[Sass]

Really?

[Host]

Roosevelt Ave. Where's Jackson Heights?

[Francis]

Where's that?

[Host]

It's in Queens.

[Sass]

Queens?

[Jerry]

Don't you live in Queens? Yeah.

[Sponsor Reader 1]

Yeah.

[Host]

Oh, wow.

[Sass]

Yeah. No hookers. No hookers by me, though.

[Host]

You sure? How do you know? You checked.

[Sass]

I guess I. I guess you don't know.

[Jerry]

Vietnamese queens is everything.

[Sass]

Queens is really everything. It's mostly. I don't know if it's Vietnamese.

[Francis]

Greek.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Flushing is China. Town of.

[Sass]

Of Queen Flushing's everything but Flushing is. They say Flushing is like the melting

[Host]

pot, but it's definitely mostly Chinese.

[Francis]

Yeah, it's big ch. It's more of. It's a. More like concentrated China Chinatown than micro center.

[Host]

They were selling. They were selling live crab on the streets.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Really?

[Host]

Buckets of live crab in Flushing. Even Flushing on the. The street in the morning.

[Francis]

Damn.

[Host]

Where do the crabs come from? In the morning?

[Mook]

Yeah,

[Sass]

Hudson crabs.

[Host]

They didn't even get a chance to fish the crabs yet.

[Sass]

Have some jet black crabs.

[Host]

That's nasty. You guys ever miss New York? You ever miss Jersey? You ever miss the East Coast?

[Mook]

I miss the East Coast a lot. I miss Philly. Yeah, I do miss New York a little bit. For sure.

[Host]

Where did you live when you were out there?

[Mook]

Jersey City.

[Sass]

Mooc had a rough go in New York.

[Mook]

Oh, yeah.

[Sass]

Terrible because you were. He was only there for like six months, right?

[Mook]

I was there for six months. I lived with a random guy named Vabav.

[Sass]

Yeah, Indian.

[Mook]

Yeah, Indian with a white girlfriend that he would like. Borderline assault every night.

[Sass]

Damn.

[Jerry]

Damn.

[Mook]

So I just heard, like, abuse every day and then. Yeah, I was just sweaty the entire time.

[Host]

You never stepped in. You're never like, you're hurting her.

[Mook]

It's not my fight.

[Sass]

Yeah, no, I let that one be.

[Mook]

He was like one of those Indians that was here for college and the far right got his hooks in him.

[Sass]

Oh, really?

[Mook]

And now he tweets just like the most racist things you could ever imagine. Really?

[Sass]

He's a racist Indian?

[Mook]

Yeah. Big, like, big racist.

[Sass]

No, actually, that's actually pretty common.

[Mook]

I think he's like a lot of Indian supremacists.

[Sass]

Yeah. Yeah. That's a big thing, Indian supremacy.

[Host]

There's also Indian white supremacists all big time.

[Sass]

Most white supremacists are Indian.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Mook]

He thinks he's white.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sass]

That's. A lot of people don't know that it's crazy,

[Francis]

bro.

[Sass]

If you go on Twitter and you look at, like, find the most racist account you can find.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Sass]

And then you go to the location. Always in India.

[Mook]

Oh, yeah.

[Sass]

Always in India.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Yeah.

[Mook]

He's, like, replying to Sydney Sweeney's tweets

[Sass]

like, oh, yeah, you.

[Francis]

That's incel, isn't it?

[Mook]

It's incel. And then he's saying bad things about everyone besides Indians and whites.

[Sass]

Yeah, it's.

[Host]

Well, Indians have, like, a cast system, so, like, cultural divides are built into their, like, national fascination fabric. Like, there's always somebody that you think you're better than if you're born in India.

[Mook]

God.

[Host]

I think it's like.

[Sass]

Yeah, it is.

[Mook]

It's.

[Sass]

It is.

[Host]

I don't know much about.

[Jerry]

The Saudis are better than everybody.

[Sass]

The Saudis, Really?

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

At least the, like, what we're dealing with, really.

[Sass]

Jerry's got, like, real beef with the

[Francis]

Saudis, by the way. You might want to cool that.

[Mook]

No, no, no. We've talked about it.

[Francis]

I don't know if the last time we pissed off the Saudis.

[Sass]

Yeah, no, we know about that. We bring that up. Yeah.

[Francis]

Found a way.

[Mook]

They want my tongue and they want to, like, hang Jerry.

[Sass]

They hit up Mook and they say, we want your tongue.

[Mook]

Yeah, we're gonna take it.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

That's a delicacy in Saudi Arabia. Ginger tongue. Yeah.

[Sass]

In, like, Arabic.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sass]

And you got to translate it. They also are big on the hahas.

[Mook]

Oh, big.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Like, if they, like, they'll beat one of our teams and then the replies will be like. Not just like, hahaha. It's like they all use the full character limit and they just copy and paste it.

[Mook]

You depress show more.

[Sass]

Yeah. So all the replies are.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

And they're like, bastards. Bastards.

[Sass]

Bastards. Like, that's, like the N word here. Yeah, yeah.

[Mook]

Your dad's a drunk bastard.

[Sass]

Yeah. They're like, bastard.

[Host]

Yeah, bastard. Crazy Moot.

[Sass]

Got pulled up on by nine Saudis.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Sass]

I was surrounded in Birmingham by himself, solo. They surrounded him.

[Mook]

They started. They started pointing at me like, you're next. I had to pull out, translate. I had no clue what they were saying. It was weird, dude.

[Host]

What, were they British speak or, like, were they British guys or.

[Sass]

These guys are. They fly into the tournaments from song.

[Host]

Fresh out of the Ferrari.

[Jerry]

Oh, yeah.

[Host]

Oh, my God.

[Sass]

And they're backed by, like, billions of dollars.

[Jerry]

Oh, yeah.

[Sass]

Like, all this that we have, like, where we're like, we need to buy, like, their oil money.

[Mook]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jerry]

It's Insane.

[Mook]

They have handlers for their players.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Mook]

Like Tier 2, Call of Duty.

[Sass]

Yeah. They fly out.

[Host]

They thought you guys were. That's what your team thought that you guys were doing, probably.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Like, millions of followers. Like, all these guys are paid.

[Host]

Yeah. Guys are like, white Saudis.

[Jerry]

Yeah. White Saudis.

[Sass]

Our boy.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Our bo. Boys must be wishing they went to rock or.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

100%. Like, the. But those years are probably just getting abused as soon as they lose to us.

[Francis]

You guys know you're in trouble when your players start praying five times a day.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah. Oh, this. No, I'm stretching. Does anyone know which way west is?

[Host]

When their players pull up on a Lamborghini that's on two wheels and they're shooting an AK47 out of the opposite window, you know they're in trouble.

[Jerry]

We beat this one team, and I think it was either me or Mook or me and Sass. We seen Dom.

[Sass]

He was getting, like.

[Jerry]

He was getting dragged from his handler.

[Mook]

He was so down bad from losing that he, like.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Mook]

He, like, dishonored his country. His handler had to grab him underneath, like, under his shoulders, pulling him away.

[Host]

They're probably going to chop his hand off.

[Jerry]

Oh, yeah. They're like, be. As soon as they get on that plane, they're getting beaten. Like, come on, you know what? Pants down. Let's go, Bell. They all. You know, it's crazy. Like, they all scream this, like, saying before they start, like. Like, there's a setup and then there's another setup. And, like, they're, like, screaming, kind of, like, intimidating. Oh, blow this place up. They're so, like, fight with each other. Like, bro, they're like.

[Sass]

They're like brothers.

[Francis]

There's much more of.

[Sass]

Of a connection between them. Like, even our guys, like, they're all friends. They've all played together forever, but, like, they're not. Like, if one of our guys plays bad, the other one will be like, yo, you suck.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Sass]

These guys, like, if one of them plays bad, like, they're in a group huddle before, like.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Praying away the negative energy.

[Mook]

Yeah, bro. They just had to drop a guy from their team.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Mook]

I think they killed him.

[Sponsor Reader 1]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Mook]

I think they just eliminated.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

I see nothing of them.

[Mook]

Nothing.

[Jerry]

No tweets, no nothing.

[Francis]

Do you guys beat. Beat them?

[Sass]

Oh, yeah.

[Jerry]

Yeah, we own them.

[Sass]

We own them. Well, it's kind of been back and forth. There's one team Rock. There's like, three or there's like, five. Yeah, they have their own, and they have their own League, which Byron played.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Host]

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[Host]

You guys need to start doing. You guys need to have that kind of camaraderie on your team.

[Sass]

We tried.

[Jerry]

Yeah, we tried.

[Sass]

There's not much we can do. We thought about bringing in Francis for that. Give the boys a little pep talk.

[Francis]

I want to. I want to.

[Sass]

We don't know how well they would respond to it.

[Francis]

If they don't, I'm going to hurt them.

[Sass]

Yeah. But then maybe the thing is they're.

[Francis]

I'm tired of these guys.

[Sass]

They're not going to.

[Francis]

Not appreciating their opportunity.

[Host]

Community.

[Francis]

Oh, yeah. You boys, you're gonna. You want to keep languishing here. Second tier, Call of Duty.

[Sass]

Yeah, we're saving.

[Francis]

We're saving their lives.

[Mook]

They would get off that meeting with you and be like, Francis needs to get shot. That's it.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Yeah.

[Sass]

For word.

[Mook]

What kind of drugs is he on?

[Francis]

I think what we should do is, you know, do a retreat.

[Jerry]

You guys should come to Vegas.

[Francis]

We should do a bonding treats, something like that.

[Host]

What about Paris? Why not Paris?

[Jerry]

Par out the question.

[Sass]

Yeah. Not even.

[Jerry]

Not funds for that.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Francis]

They can't go.

[Sass]

No, they're going to go.

[Jerry]

They're going to go. Yeah. We're not going to go.

[Francis]

You can't go.

[Jerry]

No.

[Mook]

No.

[Francis]

You don't want to. You guys want to go?

[Sass]

No.

[Jerry]

No.

[Francis]

Why not?

[Sass]

Yeah, Just because Birmingham was a nightmare.

[Mook]

Oh, my God. Birmingham.

[Francis]

Paris is a fun city to go to.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Sass]

It's just the whole.

[Francis]

We all go. Not for.

[Host]

Not for these three.

[Francis]

What the. We'll pay for ourselves.

[Sass]

Also, there's another Paris tournament this year.

[Jerry]

There's two.

[Sass]

So we're kind of trying to.

[Jerry]

But I think you guys should definitely come with us to Vegas and if you like it, like go to Paris with us.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Host]

I can't think of three people and. And I can't think of three people that would hate Paris more than one. Two.

[Francis]

Come on.

[Sass]

It's supposed to be the biggest Call of Duty event ever.

[Francis]

I can show them a Paris that they would love. We'll take a. A bateau mush down the Seine.

[Mook]

You think our four gamers never.

[Francis]

They're going to be inside.

[Jerry]

But.

[Francis]

But we there as their supporters, their. Their bonding, you know, team building guys or whatever. We will go out to dinners and do fun stuff around it.

[Jerry]

There's money coming from.

[Francis]

We're just gonna have to pay for ourselves.

[Jerry]

I'm out.

[Sass]

It's a lot. I mean, I think for all of us to go, it would have been like $50,000. What yeah.

[Francis]

Including your players.

[Sass]

Yeah, yeah, with the player. I mean, we'd have to get the players. You have to get an Airbnb. Everyone has to get flights.

[Mook]

And then. And then you're there, and then. And then you're just spending every dollar you have trying to make them happy.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Host]

Why don't you do it like a car wash or something?

[Jerry]

We were gonna do a bagathon.

[Host]

Why not do a bag.

[Mook]

Shut down?

[Francis]

By who?

[Mook]

No, we can't talk.

[Host]

Austin saying you guys can't even beg. You guys can't even. You're giving $250 to homeless people. Karma would say that that 250 should come back to you from multiple people.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

No, it never comes back.

[Sass]

Don't need it.

[Host]

Yeah, you guys should be allowed to beg.

[Sponsor Reader 1]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

No, no begathon.

[Sass]

No bagathon.

[Mook]

We're fine.

[Sass]

We don't need one.

[Host]

Yeah, we're gonna go to Paris later in the year. Francis will take you on a roham down the sin.

[Jerry]

Look, I don't.

[Francis]

I don't expect Bryson dechambeau to be there, but I. You know, I will say that Paris in. What is it?

[Sass]

It's the August 5th and 6th.

[Francis]

Oh, that's not a good time to be in Paris.

[Sass]

Hot.

[Francis]

No.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Paris is empty of French people. It's all tourists at that time.

[Jerry]

Oh, damn.

[Sass]

Oh, it sounds perfect.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Miserable.

[Sass]

It's like going to America.

[Francis]

Yeah. Mix in a bunch of, like, freaky deaky Irish people.

[Sass]

Yeah, true. That's got to be weird, going to Paris if you live in Europe, like, vacationing in Europe.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

It's like us going to a different state.

[Sass]

True, true.

[Host]

Or someone coming to New York.

[Sass]

What would you like if you were lived in Paris? Would you ever visit, like, if you were to visit America, where would you go?

[Francis]

If I lived in. That's a great question. I think about this a lot because you. You hear from. I have. I had some friends in England, and they would tell me, like, we're going to Vegas for Halloween. And I'm like, you're gonna fly from London to Vegas for Halloween? And they were so excited about it, too.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

They were like, mate, the broads were gonna like, we're gonna shag the rankest boards ever. I've got four different costumes planned. It's gonna be unbelievable. And, you know, it was like, you know, I didn't have the heart to be like, dude, Vegas is a nightmare. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they go.

[Sass]

Do they think of it as a nightmare when they go?

[Francis]

No, they think of Vegas the way that we think of like Ibiza or like Amsterdam where go to Ibiza. You don't realize how seedy and gross it is.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

But the truth is they go people in Europe. I mean San Francisco is a really cool city for them to visit.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

They vision, they envision California the way that like we envision.

[Sass]

I feel like that would be worse. Garden of Eden going to visit la.

[Francis]

Worse.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Yeah. LA would be tough.

[Sass]

But San Francisco, this is not what we.

[Francis]

Right. You're not seeing oddly flat warehouses.

[Sass]

Yeah. Not a lot of sky. Not as many skyscrapers as I was picturing.

[Francis]

Yeah. They go. They're like we're gonna go see the Hollywood sign. And it's like they didn't realize it was an hour and a half of driving. 10 miles.

[Host]

You can walk nowhere. You can't even walk to get a cup of coffee.

[Sass]

It's gonna be a one minute uber and a 35 minute walk.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Francis]

I'm trying to think. It's, it's, it's neat. New York. It's New York. San Francisco. They're not going.

[Host]

Miami.

[Francis]

Yeah, Miami. Big time.

[Sass]

Yeah, Miami.

[Host]

But they're not like people in, in, in Europe who. The places they vacation are cities that we've never heard of. It's like a small city in Spain or like a small city in Greece.

[Francis]

Brussels, Luxembourg. Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Sass]

That shit's probably insane too.

[Host]

Some that we've never even like it's not even on our radar.

[Sass]

I mean it's probably the same as someone like everyone has like their little vacation spots, you know, like put in bay or like random places.

[Host]

What's the place in Mac? Mackinac. Mackinac island or whatever. Mackinac Island. Where is that? In Michigan? I don't know. Sea aisle?

[Mook]

Sea.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

Yep.

[Jerry]

Jersey.

[Host]

Yeah. South Jersey. South Jersey. You ever go down to South Jersey?

[Jerry]

My mom just moved there.

[Host]

South.

[Jerry]

Yeah. Where A lot of break ins. North Jersey. So she was done. She was like this. I'm out.

[Host]

Did she go to the beach side or by Philly?

[Jerry]

Beachside.

[Host]

Beach side. Really?

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Sponsor Reader 1]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Yep.

[Host]

You want to say what town or off camera?

[Jerry]

No. Tom's River.

[Host]

Okay. Okay. That's like Central.

[Sponsor Reader 1]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Central Jersey.

[Jerry]

It's considered south.

[Sass]

Common debate.

[Host]

Is it they. They won two. Didn't they win the Little League World Series?

[Jerry]

I think they're always good.

[Mook]

Always.

[Jerry]

They're always good.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Crazy, huh? I don't know.

[Sass]

How do you have a little league team that's always good.

[Jerry]

I think it's just so big.

[Sass]

Yeah. It must be.

[Jerry]

It times over like they have like four different.

[Mook]

Yeah, like recruit you.

[Jerry]

That's pretty crazy.

[Sponsor Reader 2]

That's.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Your mom, you must have liked it that your mom lived in northern Jersey with all the break ins. Cuz then you could just blame your own behavior.

[Sass]

Yeah, true, true. That's good point.

[Francis]

They took, they took the armchair.

[Jerry]

Dude. It's pretty crazy. Like the last one that happened to her was she went to get groceries and then she parked outside side. She left her keys in the car and she popped the trunk to get the groceries. Brought the first batch in, came out for the second batch, car was gone. The whole car. Whole car.

[Sass]

Oh my God.

[Jerry]

And the rest of the groceries.

[Sass]

That's crazy.

[Host]

They didn't even leave the groceries for.

[Jerry]

No, I didn't leave the groceries. No. And then they found it like a month later and it was like burn holes all over. Yeah, it was crazy. And then she was like yeah, I'm putting the house up out of here. Cuz the area we grew up in was like. Used to be like really Italian. And then like over time it just like switched.

[Host]

That's how it happens.

[Jerry]

And then. Yeah, it just became like really rough. And then. Yeah, just she's like this. I'm going to South Jersey. So she went to like a 50. 55 and older.

[Sass]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

One of those gated communities which is actually like pretty nice where she's living now. The beach is really close and stuff like that.

[Host]

That's amazing.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Pool once, whatever she wants it so it's great.

[Host]

Have you visited her there yet?

[Jerry]

No, I will be in August twice.

[Sponsor Reader 1]

Yeah.

[Francis]

Oh is 55 and older primarily like very old or is that sort of young?

[Jerry]

I think my mom's the youngest.

[Francis]

Oh.

[Jerry]

In the community right now.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Cuz she, she's like 55.

[Host]

Wow.

[Francis]

She went as soon as she could.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

Oh yeah.

[Host]

Cuz you want to get into one of those communities?

[Jerry]

Yeah, yeah. You want to get in.

[Francis]

It's like New York City private school. It's like you, you, you start in kindergarten. You can go all the way through. It's the easiest way to get in.

[Host]

Yeah, for sure.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Host]

You don't want to be apply 70.

[Francis]

No, no.

[Host]

They're like you have no potential.

[Francis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jerry]

Grass for. They like do everything for like their HOA is like super nice.

[Host]

It's so nice.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Host]

Really cool. My mother in law just got in one. I think my mom's gonna get in one. Yeah, it's nice because at some point you just wind up in the. In hospice if you're, if you're too late.

[Jerry]

Yeah.

[Host]

You just wind up. You got to get in early because you miss. Try to get in at 8 to be there. Let's go to the nursing home or something.

[Jerry]

I would never like, I'd put that in like my documentation. Like I can't ever be in a nursing home. Kill me. Like those, those people. Like, I don't care what anybody says. Those people are doing bad.

[Host]

Oh, yeah. You're guaranteed to get sexually abused by Jamaican. If you're in a nurse. There's guaranteed. It's in the small. It's in the fine print.

[Jerry]

I think like half the population in nursing homes like have STDs.

[Sass]

Oh, yeah.

[Francis]

But that's cuz they're all each other.

[Host]

Yeah.

[Jerry]

That's what they want you to think. Oh, it's the AIDS doing it.

[Sass]

Definitely could be.

[Host]

Really is like, oh, she's. She has dementia.

[Mook]

Yeah.

[Host]

Line up. Yeah, that's nasty. It's very.

[Francis]

Why don't we rap?

[Host]

Okay. That was fun.

[Sass]

Yeah, we've been going.

[Host]

Perfect. Great. Great call.

[Mook]

Awesome.

[Host]

That was awesome.

[Jerry]

That was fun.

[Francis]

Really fun.

[Host]

Okay, mooc's back. Let's end it. Let's end it.

[Sass]

All right, Mook, we're signing off.

[Mook]

Signing off.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Host]

Subscribe to. Subscribe to the Bush's YouTube channel. Yep. Follow everything that they do. Even though they're not doing a begathon. Put some money on these boys books. Yeah. At least you guys could do.

[Mook]

Thanks for having us. When he starts spewing Bush business in

[Host]

the future, we'll just give you the.

[Mook]

Do it. Do a little bit. Get a whistle.

[Host]

Why don't we just let you guys listen to the episode. Why don't we just have an open feed while we record? So you could be like, flag that.

[Mook]

I would love that.

[Francis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sass]

Phenom will listen every word.

[Francis]

It's like in the rest. In Per Se. In New York, they have the live feed to the restaurant, the French Laundry, because Thomas Keller wants to keep an eye on both.

[Host]

Yeah, exactly that. We'll have Phenom in the French Laundry.

[Sass]

Do you guys know Phenom?

[Host]

No.

[Sass]

You guys would love.

[Mook]

You would love.

[Francis]

Yeah.

[Sass]

Now I'm pissed that we just brought this up because we could go hours talking about Phenom.

[Host]

You'll have to come.

[Sass]

He's a discord mod.

[Mook]

We'll do it. We'll do a home at home. We'll come to New York.

[Host]

In New York. Yeah. When you guys. In August, when you come out to New York. Yeah, you should fly out too. We'll just have a phenom.

[Mook]

Me and Jerry got plans in Jersey.

[Sass]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll have numbers on then too.

[Jerry]

Yeah, we get numbers on there too.

[Sass]

Yeah, that'll be great.

[Host]

Cool.

[Sass]

Sweet.

[Francis]

All right.

[Sponsor Reader 1]

All right.

[Sass]

Thank you, guys for listening. We'll be back on Thursday. Goodbye.