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Song Revolution with John Chisum
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The Song Revolution Podcast exists to empower you through valuable songwriting insights, inspiration, and interviews with some of the greatest songwriters, producers, arrangers, artists, and creatives in the industry and beyond. Find out more at nashvillechristiansongwriters.com
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JOHN CHISUM: Do You Suffer From Lonely Songwriter Syndrome?
1w ago00:28:21Tap to summarizeSong Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Do You Suffer From Lonely Songwriter Syndrome? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John continues working through his NCS Complete Songwriting Guide, focusing on Theme #4: Overcoming Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS). He emphasizes that one of the biggest obstacles holding songwriters back is not a lack of talent or ideas, but isolation. John explains that songwriting is meant to be a collaborative, community-driven process rather than a solitary journey. Drawing from his 40+ years of experience, he highlights how co-writing, accountability, and honest feedback dramatically increase both the quality and consistency of a songwriter's output. Throughout the episode, John shares practical ways writers can step out of isolation—whether through structured communities like Nashville Christian Songwriters, Zoom co-writing sessions, church-based songwriting groups, or one-on-one collaborations. He challenges listeners to move beyond "idea collecting" and into the discipline of finishing songs, sharpening their craft through relationship and real-time creative exchange. Ultimately, this episode is a call to step out of loneliness and into a creative community that strengthens, challenges, and multiplies your songwriting potential. EPISODE TOPICS Introduction to Theme #4: Overcoming Lonely Songwriter Syndrome (LSS) Why songwriting is not meant to be done alone The emotional and creative effects of isolation in songwriting How loneliness leads to unfinished songs and burnout The importance of accountability in creative output Moving from idea-storing to song-finishing discipline Understanding the value of co-writing relationships Different forms of co-writing (duos, small groups, larger retreats) Writing via Zoom and remote collaboration Finding complementary songwriting strengths (lyrics, melody, music) The role of mentorship and coaching in creative development Avoiding over-reliance on encouraging but uncritical feedback Recognizing "cultural bias" in church and close community feedback Building or joining intentional songwriting communities How professional feedback accelerates growth Taking responsibility for your creative consistency and output KEY HIGHLIGHTS Loneliness is a Creativity Killer: John explains that repeated isolation in songwriting leads to discouragement, inconsistency, and eventually burnout. Without community, many writers stop finishing songs altogether. Songwriting Is a Team Sport: Rather than the "lone genius" model, John emphasizes that strong songwriting is built through collaboration, feedback, and shared creative energy. Co-Writing Builds Skill Faster Than Solo Writing: Working with others exposes writers to new approaches, structures, and creative instincts they would not develop alone. Growth accelerates through collaboration. Accountability Leads to Completion: One of the biggest differences between hobby writers and prolific writers is finishing songs. Accountability helps turn ideas into completed work. There Are Many Ways to Co-Write: Co-writing can happen in pairs, small groups, songwriting retreats, church communities, or virtually through Zoom sessions. There is no single "right" format—only what creates consistency and collaboration. Your Weakness Should Meet Someone Else's Strength: Effective collaboration often pairs lyricists with melody writers, or concept-driven writers with producers and musicians, creating a stronger final result. Feedback Must Be Honest, Not Just Encouraging: John warns against relying solely on supportive friends or church communities, which can unintentionally reinforce weak songwriting through "cultural bias." Professional Input Raises the Ceiling: Growth accelerates when writers engage in structured environments with experienced mentors or coaches who provide honest critique and direction. Consistency Reveals Calling: Your output level is a reflection of your seriousness. Writers who consistently finish songs treat songwriting as a discipline, not just inspiration. FINAL TAKEAWAY Songwriting growth does not happen in isolation—it happens in community. If you want to become a more prolific and impactful songwriter, you must step out of loneliness and into collaboration, accountability, and honest feedback. Co-writing, mentorship, and structured creative environments will challenge you, sharpen your skills, and help you actually finish your songs—not just collect ideas. When you surround your songwriting with the right people, your creativity multiplies, your consistency increases, and your calling becomes clearer and more powerful. RESOURCES & LINKS: FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Transcribe →JOHN CHISUM: Why Are You A Songwriter?
2w ago00:27:41Tap to summarizeSong Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Why Are You A Songwriter? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John continues the journey through the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide with Theme #3: Discovering Your Mission as a Christian Songwriter. He explores the importance of clarifying your personal "why" so that your songs have clear direction, deeper meaning, and lasting impact. John shares stories from his own songwriting journey and from writers he's coached, illustrating how powerful songs often flow from personal experiences, healing, and calling. He explains that while many writers feel drawn to broad goals like encouragement or evangelism, meaningful songwriting comes from drilling down into the specific message God has placed on your heart. Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own life experiences, passions, and spiritual journey to uncover recurring themes that can shape their songwriting voice. This episode serves as a powerful invitation to move beyond vague intentions and begin writing songs that are rooted in purpose, identity, and authentic ministry. EPISODE TOPICS Introduction to Theme #3: Discovering Your Mission as a Christian Songwriter Clarifying your "why" as a songwriter Writing from personal calling rather than imitation Understanding the difference between broad goals and specific mission Learning to write for your own ministry context Turning personal stories into universal messages Identifying recurring themes in your life and testimony Finding your unique voice and songwriting focus Avoiding comparison with established artists Building songs that reflect your personal ministry impact The role of healing, testimony, and experience in songwriting Taking inventory of your life experiences to uncover purpose KEY HIGHLIGHTS Discovering Your Songwriting Mission: John introduces Theme #3 by focusing on the importance of clarifying your mission as a songwriter. Without a clear sense of purpose, songs can feel scattered or unfocused. A strong "why" gives direction and meaning to your work. Write for Your Sphere of Influence: Instead of trying to write songs for famous artists, John encourages songwriters to focus on their own ministry settings—churches, small groups, or communities where their songs can make an immediate difference. Your Story Holds the Key: Many powerful songwriting themes come from personal experiences such as healing, loss, restoration, or spiritual growth. These experiences can become the foundation for songs that minister to others. Make Personal Messages Universal: While your story may be unique, your songs should connect broadly. John explains how personal experiences can be expressed in ways that resonate with many listeners. Move Beyond Vague Callings: Broad terms like encouragement, worship, or evangelism are good starting points, but deeper clarity is needed to build a meaningful songwriting mission. Ask the Right Questions: John encourages songwriters to reflect on four key areas: What obstacles has God helped you overcome? What topics interest and inspire you most? What do you naturally talk about with others? How do you spend your free time? Character Sustains Calling: Talent alone isn't enough. Long-term impact requires maturity, discipline, and clarity of purpose. Knowing your mission helps sustain your calling through both highs and lows. Write from Purpose, Not Pressure: Songs written from authentic calling carry greater emotional depth and spiritual impact than those written merely to meet expectations. FINAL TAKEAWAY Your songwriting becomes powerful when it flows from purpose. Take time to reflect on your life experiences, passions, and calling. Identify the themes God has already been shaping in your life, and allow those themes to guide your songwriting. When your songs are rooted in a clear mission, they carry depth, direction, and lasting impact. RESOURCES & LINKS: FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Transcribe →JOHN CHISUM: Is Your Song Ready?
3w ago00:22:54Tap to summarizeSong Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Is Your Song Ready? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John continues exploring the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide with Theme #2: Taking Your Work from Demo to the World. He walks songwriters through the essential stages of music production—from simple voice memos to professional master recordings—and explains how each level serves a specific purpose in developing and sharing your songs. John emphasizes that songwriting success isn't about rushing into expensive studio recordings but about progressing wisely through each stage. He discusses the importance of capturing ideas quickly with work demos, developing songs through home demos, and only investing in professional production after a song has been tested and proven to resonate with listeners. Along the way, John addresses the role of technology and AI in modern songwriting, offering practical wisdom on how tools can support creativity without replacing authentic songwriting. This episode provides a clear roadmap for moving your songs from inspiration to impact—helping songwriters steward both their creativity and their resources wisely. EPISODE TOPICS Introduction to Theme #2: Taking Your Work from Demo to the World The three levels of song production Understanding the purpose of work demos Using voice memos to capture songwriting ideas Developing songs through home demo recordings Deciding whether to build a home studio or hire professionals Avoiding costly mistakes in professional production Knowing when a song is ready for studio investment Using AI tools wisely in the demo process Releasing music to digital service providers (DSPs) Stewarding time, money, and creativity wisely Testing songs before committing to major production KEY HIGHLIGHTS Understanding the Three Levels of Production: John outlines the progression from work demos to home demos to professional master recordings. Each level serves a distinct purpose, helping songwriters move gradually from idea to polished release. Start with Simple Work Demos: A work demo—often just a voice memo—captures melody and lyrics quickly before inspiration fades. The goal isn't perfection, but clarity and preservation of ideas. Home Demos Help Develop the Song: Home recordings allow songwriters to experiment with arrangements and instrumentation. However, John cautions writers to carefully weigh the time and learning curve involved in building technical production skills. Choose Your Focus Wisely: Songwriters must decide where to invest their time—becoming engineers or becoming better writers. While some can do both, many benefit from focusing primarily on songwriting craft. Avoid Expensive Production Too Soon: John shares cautionary stories of songwriters investing thousands of dollars into unproven songs. He stresses that professional recordings should come only after songs have been refined and validated through feedback. Test Songs Before Investing: Before moving to high-level production, songwriters should seek feedback and ensure their songs resonate with listeners. A proven song is far more deserving of financial investment. Using AI as a Tool, Not a Replacement: AI tools can help generate demo versions of songs when the melody and lyrics are already written. However, John emphasizes maintaining integrity by ensuring the creative foundation remains authentically human. Understanding Master Recordings: If you plan to release music on streaming platforms, you'll need a master recording that meets professional quality standards. This level of production represents the final stage of sharing your music with the world. FINAL TAKEAWAY Every song deserves a thoughtful journey from idea to impact. Don't rush into expensive production before your songs are ready. Start by capturing ideas simply, develop them carefully, test them with others, and invest wisely when the time is right. When you move intentionally through each stage, your songs have the best chance to connect with listeners and make a lasting difference. RESOURCES & LINKS: FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Transcribe →JOHN CHISUM: Are You Drifting as a Songwriter?
May 400:16:34Tap to summarizeSong Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Are You Drifting as a Songwriter? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John introduces Theme #1 from the brand-new NCS Complete Songwriting Guide—the call to become an intentional Christian songwriter. Rather than writing sporadically or waiting for inspiration to strike, John challenges songwriters to develop a clear plan, take consistent steps forward, and steward their calling with purpose. Drawing from decades of songwriting experience, John shares how many writers dream of being heard on radio, in churches, or around the world—but often lack the intentional habits necessary to get there. He explains why lasting growth doesn't happen through giant leaps, but through small, faithful steps taken consistently over time. This episode lays the foundation for the upcoming themes in the guide, encouraging songwriters to move beyond hobby-level creativity and step into purposeful development. It's a motivating and practical call to stop drifting and start growing as a songwriter who writes with vision, discipline, and faith. EPISODE TOPICS Introduction to the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide Theme #1: Becoming an intentional Christian songwriter Why many songwriters stay stuck without a clear plan The difference between dreaming and doing Taking incremental steps toward songwriting growth Moving from hobbyist thinking to purposeful development Investing time, energy, and resources into your calling Developing spiritual and creative discipline Creating momentum through small, consistent actions Building a long-term vision for your songwriting journey KEY HIGHLIGHTS Introducing the NCS Complete Songwriting Guide: John shares the heart behind creating an 80-page resource designed to help Christian songwriters take meaningful, practical steps toward growth. The guide outlines 12 essential themes to help writers develop both skill and purpose. Intentional Songwriting Starts with a Plan: Many songwriters have dreams but lack structure. John emphasizes that growth requires intention—setting goals, creating rhythms, and making songwriting a priority rather than an afterthought. Small Steps Lead to Big Results: Instead of trying to make giant leaps, songwriters are encouraged to focus on consistent, manageable actions. Incremental growth builds confidence, skill, and long-term momentum. From Hobby to Calling: Writing songs casually can be fulfilling, but those who feel called to share their message more broadly must treat songwriting as a discipline worth investing in. Feed Your Mind and Spirit: True growth happens when songwriters nurture both their creative skills and their spiritual lives—drawing inspiration from the Holy Spirit while developing practical tools. Get Unstuck by Taking Action: Waiting for the perfect moment often leads to stagnation. Progress begins when songwriters take the next available step, even if it feels small. Your Calling Deserves Stewardship: Songwriting is not just a creative outlet—it's a responsibility. Stewarding your gift well means being intentional about growth, learning, and consistent effort. FINAL TAKEAWAY Great songwriting doesn't happen by accident—it happens by intention. If you feel called to write songs that impact others, it's time to move beyond wishful thinking and take purposeful steps forward. Start where you are, make a plan, and commit to steady growth. Over time, small, faithful actions can lead to powerful results in your songwriting and your calling. RESOURCES & LINKS: FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Transcribe →PHOEBE SCOTT: Is Inspiration Enough to Write Great Songs?
Apr 2700:49:23Tap to summarizeSong Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: PHOEBE SCOTT: Is Inspiration Enough to Write Great Songs? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with multi-talented artist, songwriter, top-liner, and coach Phoebe Scott to explore the craft, mindset, and spiritual foundation of songwriting. Phoebe shares her journey from small-town beginnings in West Tennessee to becoming a sought-after top-liner in Nashville, revealing how her early experiences, collaborative songwriting, and creative discipline shaped her career. Together, they dive into songwriting processes, the balance of inspiration and skill, and how faith and intentionality fuel artistry. The episode also includes an improvised songwriting session, giving listeners a behind-the-scenes look at how ideas become songs. EPISODE TOPICS Phoebe's journey from small-town bands to Nashville songwriting The role of a top-liner and modern collaborative songwriting Developing a prolific songwriting practice Balancing inspiration with skill and discipline Faith, creativity, and the mindset of a songwriter Importance of consuming quality art for creative growth Improvised songwriting exercise: "It's All Good" KEY HIGHLIGHTS Phoebe's early co-writing experience in Cooper the Band taught her how to write collaboratively and develop artistic identity. Explanation of a top-liner's role: helping artists tell their story through melody and lyrics, supporting their vision while keeping songs cohesive. Insight into how prolific songwriting comes from consistent practice, showing up, and embracing feedback. Faith-centered perspective: every song already exists in God's creation; the songwriter's role is to be faithful and obedient in arranging it. Emphasis on input for output: reading, exploring art, and studying culture directly fuels creativity. Discussion of mindset: success is not only inspiration but showing up consistently, even when ideas feel empty. Behind-the-scenes songwriting moment where Phoebe and John co-create an improvised chorus, demonstrating collaborative creativity in action. FINAL TAKEAWAY Songwriting is both a craft and a calling. By combining discipline, creative curiosity, and faith, artists can show up fully—even when inspiration feels scarce—and trust the process to bring songs to life. Collaboration, input from mentors and peers, and a mindset grounded in purpose transform ordinary songwriting sessions into opportunities for growth and meaningful storytelling. Whether you're a beginner or seasoned songwriter, the key is to consistently engage, consume art, and allow God to guide the process, knowing that every step contributes to the song He's already envisioned. RESOURCES & LINKS: Follow along with what Phoebe Scott is doing! https://www.instagram.com/phoebeisloud/ FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Transcribe →JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Growing
Apr 2000:26:49Tap to summarizeSong Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Stop Waiting, Start Growing HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John shares a powerful and honest message about the importance of mentoring and coaching in the journey of becoming a great Christian songwriter and artist. Drawing from over four decades in the music industry, John reflects on his own apprenticeship under legendary mentors and how that experience shaped his career. He challenges common misconceptions around calling, talent, and success—reminding songwriters that passion alone isn't enough. Growth requires intentional investment, humility, and a willingness to learn from those further along in the journey. John also speaks candidly about the realities of the music industry, the value of paying for professional services, and the responsibility artists have to steward their calling with excellence. This episode is both a wake-up call and an invitation—to stop waiting, start growing, and pursue songwriting with discipline, mentorship, and purpose. EPISODE TOPICS Why mentoring and coaching are essential for songwriting growth The difference between being "called" and being "ready" How John's early apprenticeship shaped his entire career Why talent and passion alone won't make you a great songwriter The importance of investing time, effort, and money into your craft Common mindset traps that hold Christian songwriters back How to evaluate your songs beyond personal or cultural bias Why surrounding yourself with excellence accelerates growth KEY HIGHLIGHTS Mentorship is a biblical and practical pathway to growth Great songwriting is developed, not assumed You are responsible for developing and presenting your calling Feedback, challenge, and accountability are necessary to improve The question isn't "Am I good enough?"—it's "Am I committed enough to grow?" Excellence in songwriting requires both inspiration and discipline FINAL TAKEAWAY Christian songwriting is both a calling and a craft. Passion opens the door, but growth comes from humility, mentorship, and intentional effort. Surround yourself with those who challenge and inspire you, invest in your development, and commit to excellence in every song you write. The journey isn't about proving your talent—it's about stewarding your gift with purpose, discipline, and faithfulness. Start today, seek guidance, and let every step forward bring you closer to the songwriter God has called you to be. Take your next step by downloading the free NCS Complete Songwriting Guide and exploring the coaching and community opportunities available at Nashville Christian Songwriters. Be sure to like, share, and subscribe to Song Revolution so you never miss an episode. RESOURCES & LINKS: FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Transcribe →CLARK BECKHAM: Are You Settling For Average?
Apr 1300:46:52Tap to summarizeSong Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: CLARK BECKHAM: Are You Settling For Average? HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with returning guest, artist, and songwriter Clark Beckham for a powerful conversation on artistry, worship, and the pursuit of excellence in songwriting. From his journey as a finalist on American Idol to becoming an NCS Records artist, Clark shares how his passion for soul, jazz, and expressive musicianship has shaped his unique approach to worship music. The conversation explores the heart behind his Acoustic Worship Sessions project, where familiar worship songs are reimagined through rich chord progressions and deeply personal expression. Beyond the music, this episode dives into the discipline required to grow as a songwriter and artist. Clark and John unpack the importance of skill development, teachability, and resisting the temptation to settle for mediocrity. This is a compelling and honest look at what it really takes to steward your calling and create music that reflects both excellence and authenticity. EPISODE TOPICS Clark Beckham's journey from American Idol to NCS Records The vision behind the acoustic Worship Sessions project Reimagining worship songs through soul, jazz, and expressive chords The role of musical skill in honoring God through creativity Why growth requires discipline, not just desire Learning from mentors and collapsing the learning curve The difference between hobbyists and committed songwriters Overcoming creative passivity and taking action Worship as both spiritual expression and musical craftsmanship The balance between congregational accessibility and artistic depth KEY HIGHLIGHTS A Unique Approach to Worship Clark shares how his love for soul and jazz naturally flows into his worship leading. Rather than trying to be different, his style is simply the authentic expression of his musical journey and relationship with God. The Heart Behind Acoustic Worship Sessions What started organically has become a powerful project—taking well-known worship songs and presenting them in a fresh, intimate, and musically rich way that highlights both skill and sincerity. God Created Every Chord Clark challenges the idea that only simple or familiar musical structures are "spiritual." From major chords to complex jazz voicings, all musical beauty ultimately points back to the Creator. Excellence Is an Offering Both John and Clark emphasize that pursuing excellence is not about performance or pride—it's about offering God your very best. Growth requires intentional effort, learning, and a willingness to refine your craft. Stop Talking, Start Growing A key theme throughout the episode is the difference between wanting to improve and actually doing the work. Real growth comes from discipline, learning from others, and consistently putting in the reps. Learn from Those Who've Gone Before You Whether through courses, books, or mentorship, learning from experienced voices can dramatically accelerate growth and help avoid unnecessary mistakes. Calling Requires Development Being called does not mean being instantly skilled. Often, the calling itself is an invitation into a process of growth, refinement, and deeper dependence on God. FINAL TAKEAWAY Your calling is not just about what you create—it's about who you become in the process. Great songwriting and worship don't come from shortcuts or surface-level effort. They are formed through discipline, humility, and a deep desire to grow. When you commit to developing your craft and offering your best to God, your music becomes more than sound—it becomes a true expression of worship that can impact others in a lasting way. RESOURCES & LINKS: Follow what Clark Beckham is up to! https://clarkbeckham.com/ Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Transcribe →JOHN CHISUM: Don't Be A Lazy Songwriter
Apr 600:28:00Tap to summarizeSong Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: JOHN CHISUM: Don't Be A Lazy Songwriter EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John Chisum dives into one of the most essential—and often overlooked—skills in songwriting: finding truly great ideas. Against the backdrop of today's rapidly evolving AI landscape, John challenges songwriters to resist shortcuts and instead pursue authenticity, depth, and spiritual connection in their creative process. He explores the tension between "high tech" and "high touch," emphasizing that while technology continues to advance, the need for real human expression has never been greater. Through personal stories, practical teaching, and decades of experience, John breaks down how to discover "killer hooks" rooted in genuine faith, lived experience, and a vibrant relationship with God. This episode is both a creative roadmap and a spiritual call to write songs that are not only well-crafted—but lasting. EPISODE TOPICS The importance of great ideas in songwriting "High tech vs. high touch" in a digital and AI-driven world Why authentic testimony matters more than generated content The role of the Holy Spirit in inspiration How environment and influences shape your creativity Developing originality in song concepts The power of language, rhyme, and lyrical tools Learning from books, advertising, and other songs Avoiding lazy songwriting habits Writing songs that stand the test of time KEY HIGHLIGHTS Great Songs Start with Great Ideas John emphasizes that every impactful song begins with a compelling, clear, and focused idea. Without a strong foundation, even the best production cannot carry a song. High Tech vs. High Touch As technology continues to expand, the value of human connection and authentic expression increases. Songwriting is not just about output—it is about the Spirit of God moving through a real person's life and testimony. Don't Outsource Your Voice While AI can generate content, it cannot replace the personal, spiritual, and emotional depth that comes from your own story. Your testimony is your greatest creative asset. The Power of a "Killer Hook" Timeless songs are built on simple, powerful ideas that connect instantly. A great title or hook should stand on its own—clear, compelling, and memorable without explanation. Go Inward First Some of the best ideas come from quiet moments of reflection and connection with God. Asking the Holy Spirit what He is doing in your life can unlock deeply meaningful song concepts. Feed Your Creativity Great writers are filled with great words. Reading, listening, and surrounding yourself with inspiring content strengthens your ability to write with depth and originality. Learn the Craft Understanding tools like rhyme, alliteration, and lyrical structure is essential. Songwriting is both spiritual and skill-based—it requires growth, study, and intentional development. Don't Be a Lazy Songwriter Waiting passively for inspiration or relying on shortcuts leads to shallow results. Proactive, disciplined writers create more compelling and lasting songs. FINAL TAKEAWAY Great songwriting is not accidental—it is intentional, spiritual, and deeply personal. In a world increasingly driven by technology, your greatest advantage is your humanity and your relationship with God. The songs that last are not generated—they are cultivated through time, discipline, and authentic connection with the Holy Spirit. If you want to write songs that matter, start by listening inward, stewarding your voice, and committing to the process. Your testimony, your words, and your calling are worth the work. RESOURCES & LINKS: Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
Transcribe →GINNY OWENS: Different Kind Of Water
Mar 3000:34:08Tap to summarizeSong Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: GINNY OWENS: Different Kind Of Water HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with award-winning artist, songwriter, theologian, and worship leader Ginny Owens. From her early discovery by Michael W. Smith and her years in the CCM spotlight to seasons of burnout, spiritual wrestling, and renewed calling, Ginny shares a candid look at the highs and hardships of life in Christian music. Now serving at Redeemer Church in Manhattan and holding a Master of Divinity degree, Ginny reflects on what it means to go deeper in faith, to wrestle honestly with God, and to create music that fosters real spiritual conversations. She also introduces her new EP, Different Kind of Water, and shares about launching The Asaph Project, a new nonprofit focused on equipping worship leaders and writing songs for the local church. This is a rich conversation about faithfulness over fame, depth over dopamine, and blooming faithfully where God has planted you. EPISODE TOPICS Being discovered by Michael W. Smith and signing with Rocketown Records The realities behind the CCM touring life Burnout, doubt, and rediscovering spiritual depth Moving to New York City and earning an M.Div. Studying under Tim Keller at Redeemer The importance of church accountability for artists Writing songs that spark spiritual conversations The heart behind the EP Different Kind of Water Launching The Asaph Project to serve the congregational church Blooming where you're planted as a songwriter KEY HIGHLIGHTS From Belmont to Rocketown Ginny shares the story of how a simple church offertory led to recording demos, connecting with publisher Michael Puryear, and eventually signing with Michael W. Smith's Rocketown Records. Community and faithful connectors played a pivotal role in her journey. The Hidden Cost of the Dream While touring and recording brought exciting opportunities, Ginny candidly discusses the spiritual and relational toll of life on the road. Without consistent church accountability and rooted community, burnout followed. Her reflection offers valuable wisdom for aspiring artists. Going Deeper After Doubt Following a difficult season of burnout and spiritual questioning, Ginny sensed the Lord leading her into deeper theological study. Her move to New York to attend seminary at Redeemer under Tim Keller became a transformative chapter of growth and renewal. Writing for Spiritual Conversations Her new EP, Different Kind of Water, reflects conversations she longs to have with friends who don't yet believe. Each song addresses universal longings—satisfaction, forgiveness, purpose—and gently points toward Christ as the ultimate answer. The Asaph Project Ginny shares her vision for The Asaph Project, a nonprofit aimed at equipping worship leaders in theology, songcraft, and congregational leadership while also creating new music specifically for the local church. Bloom Where You're Planted Her encouragement to songwriters: bring every dream and idea to the Lord, stay rooted in Scripture, and faithfully serve where you are now rather than chasing the door that hasn't opened yet. FINAL TAKEAWAY Success in Christian music is not sustained by momentum, platform, or applause—it is sustained by presence with Jesus and rootedness in community. Ginny's journey reminds us that calling is deeper than career. Whether you're touring the world or serving your local church, faithfulness begins with abiding in Christ and blooming right where He has planted you. RESOURCES & LINKS: Follow along with Ginny Owens https://www.ginnyowens.com/ Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
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Mar 2300:44:14Tap to summarizeSong Revolution Podcast – Season 4 TITLE: DANIEL DOSS: Revival and Songwriting HOSTS: John Chisum EPISODE SUMMARY In this episode of Song Revolution, John sits down with songwriter and artist Daniel Doss for an honest conversation about calling, perseverance, and the refining process of songwriting. Daniel shares his journey into music, the challenges of building a career while staying grounded in faith, and the lessons he has learned about consistency, character, and craft. Throughout the conversation, Daniel opens up about navigating setbacks, staying creative during uncertain seasons, and learning how to write songs that are both personal and universally resonant. This episode highlights the importance of patience, humility, and long-term faithfulness in a songwriting journey that is often marked by unseen growth before visible opportunity. EPISODE TOPICS Daniel's early path into songwriting and artistry The tension between ambition and surrender Developing craft through repetition and discipline Staying rooted in faith while pursuing opportunity The importance of community in a creative career Writing songs that are authentic rather than strategic Growth that happens behind the scenes KEY HIGHLIGHTS Daniel reflects on how early challenges shaped both his faith and his songwriting voice. A candid discussion about rejection and how it refines both character and craft. Insight into why consistency matters more than momentary momentum. Encouragement to write songs that come from lived experience rather than trends. A reminder that longevity in music requires humility, patience, and a willingness to keep learning. Practical wisdom on staying encouraged during seasons when progress feels slow. FINAL TAKEAWAY A sustainable songwriting career is not built overnight. Daniel Doss's story reminds us that true growth often happens in hidden seasons where discipline, faith, and character are formed. When songwriters commit to the long process—refining their craft, guarding their hearts, and trusting God with the timeline—their songs carry depth that cannot be manufactured. RESOURCES & LINKS: Check out Daniel Doss https://www.danieldossmusic.com/ Check out Nashville Christian Songwriters! NashvilleChristianSongwriters.com FREE DOWNLOAD - The Complete NCS Songwriting Guide: Proven Principles for writing better songs, stewarding your gifts, and building a lasting life of Christian songwriting. https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/guide Join the NCS ONE SONG CHALLENGE! https://courses.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/one-song-challenge Be a part of our community of songwriters from across the globe. Join NCS Community! https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-community Real people writing real songs - check out NCS Collective https://www.nashvillechristiansongwriters.com/ncs-collective/
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