EA's own Kevin Currie-Knight and I discuss our respective essays, Growing up Metal and Growing up Grunge. We talk about the appeal of heavy music and different conceptions of masculinity, the differences between early and late Gen Xers, growing up in the 1970's and '80's, authenticity, and much more. 01:00 On the "Growing Up" Essays by Dan and Kevin. And why music? 09:20 Why "Growing Up Metal"? Life as a kid and teenager in 70's and 80's Long Island. Dan's Bizarre Connection to Public Enemy. Metal and Masculinity. 34:30 Why “Growing Up Grunge?" Grunge and Hair Metal. Grunge and Masculinity. Kevin Sings. Grunge masculinity is a kind of "dirty Alan Alda." Grunge, Tone and Masculinity. The Paradox of Authenticity. Dan Tries to Imitate Grunge Vocals. 01:05:00 Clique Identification and Defensive Cliques