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Yinka
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Dilly Carter
I'm Dilly Carter, the organized one. And this is Sort yout Life Out Unpacked. Get ready to unpack three boxes with my celebrity guest. Every box has an item from their own home, plus a load of stories and memories. And standby for my tips on how to sort your own life out too. This episode, my guest is a presenter who was born and raised in London. You've heard her on Radio 1 and you've seen her on TV documentaries. She gives herself a very capable 8 out of 10 when it comes to organization, which is doubly impressive given she has a one year old daughter. Welcome to the brilliant Yinka bikini.
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Yinka
Thank you.
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Dilly Carter
Hello. So nice to meet you. I mean, eight out of ten is impressive.
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Yinka
Yeah. Because I wanted to give room for improvement.
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Dilly Carter
Okay.
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Yinka
But I'm often impressed daily and weekly by how much I get done and how much I remember. So I wanted to be honest with the rating.
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Dilly Carter
When you're eight, you're like, you know, you're quite.
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Yinka
No, I've got.
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Dilly Carter
You're solid in your conviction, you know,
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Yinka
an Excel dock in my mind. Oh, really? And even in my house, it's pretty chaotic. I am a bit impulsive. I impulsively do things and buy things and all of that, but I know where everything is.
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Dilly Carter
That's key.
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Yinka
If you want scissors, they're in the drawer above the bin. If you want wrapping paper, it's underneath the bed in the third compartment. Like, I know where things are even if it doesn't make sense to everybody.
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Dilly Carter
I love that. That is really important. Do you think you've got photographic memory? No, because like, you just described that like I'm. I work in people's houses, obviously. It's what I've been doing for 25 years. And if someone rings me and says, where is this? I go literally close my eyes and I'm like, it's in the left drawer by this, at the back of this. I can still remember. I remember where most things are. If I place them in your house, I remember where it is.
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Yinka
How does it feel being one of God's favorites?
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Dilly Carter
I know, she's really good. So before we unbox your items from home, I'm going to ask you a few quick fire questions. So number one, how would you describe your home in a sentence?
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Yinka
I would say that my home is warm and inviting, lovely, and you're always
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Dilly Carter
welcome for a time, for five minutes
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Yinka
and then it's time to go home.
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Dilly Carter
You are welcome between 4 and 5pm for 5 minutes and then you must go.
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Yinka
And then we slap our knees and we say woo and everyone knows that it's time to vacate.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah, this was lovely. Thank you so much. Now I must put the baby to bed. If I turned up unannounced, what room would you be banning me from entering?
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Yinka
I would ban you from entering my laundry room. So this house that I live in is the first time to have a room that's designated for laundry.
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Dilly Carter
Yes.
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Yinka
And the house is like really nicely decorated. Me and my other half did it together. We're really proud. But where the washing takes place, that is chaos. I mean, there's clean laundry, dirty laundry, there's stuff on the floor. I hang things on the, like the things sticking out of the wall. It's just. It smells fabulous. But it's my Monica cupboard. Like, it's a no go.
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Dilly Carter
Everyone has a moniker cupboard. Nice to be able to close the doors on it. Do you keep anything in a particularly weird place?
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Yinka
Well, yeah, but I didn't know this was weird and. Okay, I know it's weird, but I didn't realize how strange it was until I saw everybody's reactions.
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Dilly Carter
So I'm intrigued.
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Yinka
I keep my playing cards in the fridge.
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Sharival
What?
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Yinka
Yeah. And it's not to keep them fresh. I know that they don't go off. It's not milk. I understand that, but it's that I've always lived in shared accommodation, right.
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Dilly Carter
So.
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Yinka
And we would always lose them. So I put them just like where the eggs go, so I always know where they are. It's part of that, the organization in my mind. So.
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Dilly Carter
So the playing cards live in the fridge.
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Yinka
It's just where I've always kept them. And then when I have friends coming over, or even my family are used to it now, people will be like, oh, do you want to play cards? And I say, of course they're in the fridge. And then I get that exact look. That exact look is what I get.
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Dilly Carter
I'm baffled.
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Yinka
No. But until I explain that it's not to. It's not because I Think they're perishable. It's just the place that I just
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Dilly Carter
thought, you know, that it's always contained. It's always going to be there.
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Yinka
Yeah. Because you put them in the fridge and then you don't go in that bit of the fridge. So it goes in the door.
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Dilly Carter
Oh, you put them in the door of the fridge?
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Yinka
Yeah, in the door. The little bit where the eggs are meant to go.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah. I mean, that's another question. Do your eggs go in the fridge or do they not?
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Yinka
Oh, I put my eggs in the fridge.
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Dilly Carter
You know, your eggs shouldn't go in the fridge.
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Yinka
But then they say after you buy
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Dilly Carter
them, you fridge because your eggs. Basically, when we think about where we store things in our homes, always think about where you bought them from.
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Yinka
And you bought them from the shelf.
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Dilly Carter
You bought them from a shelf.
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Sharival
Yeah.
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Dilly Carter
So why are they now going into the. In, into the fridge?
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Yinka
You're asking real questions.
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Dilly Carter
This is. This is what this podcast is about. It's ask answering real life questions. Yeah.
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Yinka
Because now they're going to stay on the side.
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Dilly Carter
It's a mystery. It's a mystery. Why? Because the other mystery is why do they then give you a fridge container that's purpose built with an egg thing? An egg container?
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Yinka
Little holes.
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Dilly Carter
Every fridge you buy has an egg container.
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Yinka
Yeah.
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Dilly Carter
Why? It's not meant to go in the fridge.
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Yinka
They're trying to trick us.
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Dilly Carter
They're trying to. There's some sort of witchery going on.
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Yinka
Something going on.
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Dilly Carter
What about your home are you most proud of?
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Yinka
The thing is, I'm not really. I'm not like a house proud person, but I am proud of my plants.
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Whole Foods Market Advertiser
Ooh.
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Yinka
I am a plant mum.
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Dilly Carter
So whereas most people, I would say I can't keep anything alive.
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Yinka
No, no. My plants, they live a life of luxury.
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Dilly Carter
So you like, nurture them? Sp.
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Yinka
Yeah, I wipe them down. We have chats in the night.
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Dilly Carter
You talk to them.
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Yinka
I do.
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Dilly Carter
Like a plant sanctuary, I love.
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Yinka
And when a plant. When I lose a plant. Oh, it's a dark day. You've got to cover the windows with shrouds. Like in that scene in Bridgerton. Like. Yeah. Put black on the mirrors.
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Dilly Carter
Oh, my gosh. Oh, gosh. Okay. Right, let's move on to your first box, shall we? Yes. Right, hand it over. I'm very excited to see what you brought in. Is it gonna be a plant in this box? So I'm opening the small box and in this small box, my first box. Oh. Is a camera. And I think now, is this a. Just A camera that you've got in your house, or is this a baby monitor type of camera?
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Yinka
This is a camera to put in the studio so that, you know, I'm always watching. I'm joking.
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Dilly Carter
Big Brother is watching you.
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Yinka
This is a baby monitor.
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Dilly Carter
Ah, baby monitor. Because, yes, of course, you have recently had a baby. So tell me all about.
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Yinka
So she is.
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Dilly Carter
What is she?
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Yinka
A year and a half.
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Dilly Carter
A year and a half, yeah.
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Yinka
And she's amazing. She's changed my life. And I think anyone who has become a mother. Yeah. Sort of understands the push and pull of it to an extent that you would never really get it. Yeah. Otherwise, I. I've got so many nieces and nephews. My daughter makes 12 of the sort of second generation of my family.
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Dilly Carter
Wow.
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Yinka
And every day is brand new. So I thought that this baby monitor, which I use very often when she's having her naps and when she's sleeping in the nighttime, was sort of a good visual representation of the sort of shift of my mind and the shift of my eyes. Always have to be open and I have to be, you know, looking everywhere and in the back of my head, because she will climb on that.
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Dilly Carter
Yes. She's here, there and everywhere. And how has motherhood changed you?
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Yinka
It's made me nicer, to be honest. I think I've always been quite a pleasant person, but it's softened me in a way that I didn't realize could happen. You know, I've got a lot more time for my family and I take much more time for my family.
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Dilly Carter
And you've got a big family, haven't you? You're one of seven, aren't you?
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Yinka
I'm one of seven.
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Dilly Carter
One of seven.
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Yinka
It's really loud.
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Whole Foods Market Advertiser
Yeah.
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Yinka
That's why I talk so much, because I don't get to talk at home.
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Dilly Carter
This is your chance to talk as much as you can.
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Yinka
But before, I would work and work and work and you know what it's like sort of, you know, being a freelancer and being on screen or on mic. You're only as good as the job that you have coming up. Whatever you've done, even if it was yesterday or today, that's. That doesn't matter. It's what is next, the next stepping stone. And motherhood has sort of forced me to recalibrate and rethink about what is important. And the why is very important to me now. And I'm really grateful for that. Having that balance and knowing what is my priority now.
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Dilly Carter
How was your birth?
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Yinka
It was probably by anyone's it was probably quite traumatic, but because I was in labour for five days.
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Dilly Carter
Oh, wow.
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Yinka
But I feel like I could do it again.
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Dilly Carter
You very quickly forget, don't you, the pain that you went through.
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Yinka
It's a bit like a tattoo.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah, it is, isn't it?
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Yinka
Because when I'm in that tattoo chair, I think, why am I doing this to myself?
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Dilly Carter
I know so much. Stop.
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Yinka
And then two weeks later, I think I've got space on the back of my arm.
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Sharival
Yeah.
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Dilly Carter
Let's have another one. Yeah. Does your daughter have a nursery?
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Yinka
Yeah, yeah. Ye. She's just taken over.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
Once there was a box and then there were three boxes, and now there's an entire unit and a rug. And then she's got her own room of all these toys and her cot. And then now in the kitchen there's stuff. And everywhere I look, I'm standing on Lego.
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Dilly Carter
It just multiplies, doesn't it?
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Yinka
Yeah. So we're implementing this lovely thing, which we're going to start on her second birthday and at Christmas as well, is that we're going to donate all the toys that she doesn't to make space for the toys that she's gonna receive.
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Dilly Carter
So important.
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Yinka
And especially at Christmas as well. So I'm starting to sort of separate the toys that are a bit young for her.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
And then I'm gonna take her with me and make sure that we do that as a tradition together.
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Dilly Carter
That's a really, really important thing you've just said there. Because actually, when children are donating their toys or when you're trying to reduce children's toys, taking them with you to see that process, I mean, your daughter's very young still, but even then, being a part of that process of donating, going to the charity shop, filling up the bag, it just teaches from a young age, rather than always thinking or being scared that Mummy's gonna clear my toys now, and they see everything go in a bag and then it disappears. Actually, that can be quite daunting for a kid. They're like, hold on, I don't. And that will stop them wanting to donate. Yeah. So from a young age, if you can get them involved in that process, it's so important. Is everything quite organized?
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Yinka
It was organized.
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Dilly Carter
It was.
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Yinka
But then I'm not her only parent.
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Dilly Carter
Okay.
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Yinka
And when he comes home, he's like, just put it all in. We've gotta tidy up. So it sort of goes by the wayside a little bit. He's a shover.
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Dilly Carter
He shoves it. Oh, no. We Would not get on. He's a shover, she's a shover. Shover of stuff. Shove it in the cupboard. Shove it in the drawer. Quick, everyone's coming around.
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Yinka
Sometimes when I open a cupboard, things may fall and I'm like, who put this in here? He's like, sorry. So yeah, and I'm a. If you put things away properly the first time, you don't have to do it again. If you shove. You're just doing two jobs now.
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Dilly Carter
We're cut from the same cloth, you and me.
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Yinka
Yeah.
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Dilly Carter
Aren't we exactly do it right the first time. Shall we have a look at your second item?
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Yinka
Yes.
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Dilly Carter
Okay, so this is medium sized box. Oh, let's see what's in this one. So in our second box. Oh, I think this is, this is a slightly more random thing.
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Yinka
You're gonna think I'm weird.
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Dilly Carter
I don't think you're weird at all. I mean, believe me, I've, you know, seen lots of different things in my life.
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Yinka
This is gonna make sense.
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Dilly Carter
Okay, so I've pulled out a little orange see through, almost like a gift bag. What are these called now? What's the word for this bag? It's like a not.
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Yinka
I don't know, it's like a little pouch. Yeah.
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Dilly Carter
Let's just say this little orange pouch. It's see through but in the little orange pouch. Dental flosses.
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Yinka
Yes.
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Dilly Carter
Dental flosses. Yes. So this is a bag of dental flosses.
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Yinka
And I carry it everywhere I go dilly. Do you really?
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Dilly Carter
In your handbag?
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Yinka
Yeah.
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Dilly Carter
You never leave home without five dental floss in your bag.
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Yinka
Absolutely not.
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Dilly Carter
Tell me about these. Why have we got these?
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Yinka
I thought it was a really good representation of my job. Because you have always on camera. I'm always on camera. And you cannot have anything in your teeth.
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Dilly Carter
No.
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Yinka
That is ridiculous.
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Dilly Carter
But that's like a real worry, isn't it?
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Yinka
Yeah. And it's one of my biggest fears.
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Dilly Carter
Your biggest fear is someone filming you with something in your teeth? Yeah.
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Yinka
Or getting hiccups on air. But that's a different story.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
So basically I carry dental sticks wherever I go. I used to carry dental floss and then I'd have like string. Yeah, you've just got in my pocket. That's gross.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
Right. Whereas these, you can be a little bit more discreet because you're not. It's not a two hander.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
You know, just. And then also you can snack because sometimes you're on your feet for eight hours.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
And you don't know when your next meal is going to be. Potentially, you just get a bar then. Yeah. Oh, peanut in your tooth.
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Dilly Carter
I have just had a peanut bar, to be fair.
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Yinka
Would you like a dental stick?
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Dilly Carter
I was thinking, should I be using this? Have I got anything else?
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Yinka
And I would tell you if you did.
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Dilly Carter
Thank you.
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Yinka
And you do not. Your teeth look amazing.
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Dilly Carter
Thank you.
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Yinka
People never tell you if there is something in your teeth. Oh, I'm a teller and I appreciate that because the other day I would tell you I interviewed Ed Sheeran.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah. Oh, wow.
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Yinka
And then I. And we finished and it was great. And I was like, you know what, Yinka, you're a master at your job. And I went to the bathroom and I went to pat myself on the back and I looked in the mirror and bang, no spinach.
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Dilly Carter
Ed didn't tell you from my omelette. He did not tell you.
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Yinka
Well, I don't think he saw because the microphone was in front of your face. But everyone else saw.
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Dilly Carter
And no one told you. No.
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Yinka
And then all of the videos use it from a certain side. Yeah.
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Dilly Carter
But you can't see it.
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Yinka
No, no, no, no. It didn't. It didn't go viral or anything. But that's. That's one of my fears. And I just think in my job, you spend three hours getting ready to do something for 10 minutes.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
You. The majority of my time is spent making sure that I look like I am meant to be there. Whereas obviously the half an hour, one hour, 15 minutes, whatever you spend doing the actual job is the most important thing. And imagine all of that work going by the wayside because I've got popcorn there. It's such a funny thing because I'm not particularly precious about pictures or videos or anything like that of me going out there. I don't really mind how I look, but the way I look is really important and it is sort of part of my brand that you kind of feel like.
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Sharival
Yes.
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Dilly Carter
Cultivate.
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Yinka
Yeah. And especially if you, you know, you use it in your job.
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Dilly Carter
Of course.
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Yinka
And my brand can't be the girl with things in her teeth.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah. I mean, what would people think that's fallen to the way she's become a mum and now look at her.
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Yinka
Yeah.
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Dilly Carter
She doesn't even brush her teeth. Are your toiletries organised at home? I mean, it sounds like it is. Everything has a place.
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Yinka
Yes. Yes. I have a little, sort of like. It's like a lazy Susan.
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Dilly Carter
Love. A lazy Susan in the bathroom with all your products on.
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Yinka
Yeah. So at the top is.
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Dilly Carter
I love that you know what a lazy season is?
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Yinka
Yeah.
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Dilly Carter
That makes me so happy.
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Yinka
At least I. I see you.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah, I can feel that.
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Yinka
I see you.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
And I respect you.
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Dilly Carter
Thank you. Thank you. I feel like we're kindred spirits. This is it. Yeah.
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Yinka
So on the, on the lazy, it's
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Dilly Carter
three tier and fancy one.
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Yinka
My toothbrush at the top.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
With. It's sort of like my. I've got two toothbrushes, I've got a manual and a.
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Dilly Carter
Of course you have.
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Yinka
Yeah. So it depends on. It actually depends on if I'm being lazy. So if I can't give myself the full two and a half minutes with the electric, I'll just go in with a manual anyway. And so the toothpaste and then face creams.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
And then the middle tier is sort of nail things.
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Dilly Carter
Nail care.
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Yinka
Yeah. So nail clippers, nail brush, files and hand cream and things like that. And then the bottom is daily hair care, mostly for the baby.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
So shampoo, conditioner, hair curling cream and maybe a comb or something.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
And then that exists and that rotates. And then in the cupboards are the stock.
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Dilly Carter
Stock for those things.
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Yinka
For those things, yeah. Very organized now.
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Dilly Carter
Is your partner organized?
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Yinka
I am. The remedy to his chaos.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah. That's nice though. I like that. The remedy to his chaos. That's a nice term.
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Yinka
Yeah. I'm trying to be really nice about it. He is k otic, Is he? Yes.
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Dilly Carter
So, I mean, he's a shover.
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Yinka
Yeah.
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Dilly Carter
So we've already, we know this picture already.
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Yinka
And he's a. Like, I know that he showered because when he showers everything falls off the. Off of the shelf. He is. He's like a tornado.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah. I mean, God forbid they are the same as us and they want to keep the house clean and boring. Yeah. I always say to my husband, you know, you're so lucky. I mean, I say that 200 times a day. Do you realize how lucky you are to be married to someone like me? You could be married to someone that's really messy. He's like, yes, I know. Yes, I know. Anyway, moving on from your toothpicks, should we have a look at your third
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Whole Foods Market Advertiser
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Dilly Carter
Bed box. I mean, I've got no idea. I literally have got no clue about what is going to be in this box. Given the last two items.
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Yinka
It's a bit heavy.
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Dilly Carter
Oh, okay.
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Yinka
Not.
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Dilly Carter
Oh, it's not. Oh, okay. It's not. This is the biggest box. Let's see what's in this box. Oh, my. I mean, literally, this is the biggest box with the tiniest, tiniest, tiniest little thing in there.
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Yinka
I didn't know that the smallest thing was gonna go in the biggest box. That's not on me.
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Dilly Carter
The enormity of this box. And I have got the tiniest little chess piece, which is called the pawn.
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Yinka
The queen.
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Dilly Carter
Oh, no. Is that the pawn?
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Yinka
That's the queen.
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Dilly Carter
Oh, okay. So, you know, I don't play chess anymore. This is the queen. I thought it was a pawn.
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Yinka
Cause it's so tiny.
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Dilly Carter
No, she's little.
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Yinka
It's a mini chess set.
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Dilly Carter
Oh. So thank you. Right. Can I just clarify, if you were to see this chess piece, it looks so small that it looks like the pawn. It does, but it's the queen. Why have we got the queen from the chess set?
[18:32]
Yinka
I'm not sure if you've noticed. All of my items represent something.
[18:36]
Dilly Carter
Yes.
[18:36]
Yinka
So it's not really about those specific items, even though it can be. So the chess piece represents games and family game night.
[18:46]
Dilly Carter
I love it.
[18:47]
Yinka
And playing games with my nieces, my nephews, my partner, my brothers, my sisters. We are such a game, family. And chess is the game of the month that everybody is hooked on. It was Cluedo last month and the game of Life two months ago.
[19:03]
Dilly Carter
But chess is quite a game of time. So how do you do that when you're getting all together? Because, well, you just play.
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Yinka
We've been playing sort of two on two.
[19:13]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[19:14]
Yinka
But whenever you've got a spare 20 minutes, we just get the chessboard out and just play, have a whack at it. Every Friday, it's not a Friday night dinner, it's Friday night games time. And whoever's available will just come down and it just. This sort of chess piece, it just represents sort of just that time that I love spending with my family. Like any spare day or a few hours, we're at my family home, which is where my sister and brothers live, and that's our hub for everyone to come together. And we all have keys. So. Sorry, I just show.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah, you just turn up. I love that. Why do you think you're all so close.
[19:49]
Yinka
Well, we lost our mum in 2008.
[19:51]
Dilly Carter
I'm sorry.
[19:52]
Yinka
And it's okay. So as an adult, I've not had a mum who's here.
[19:56]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[19:57]
Yinka
So with my sisters, so there's four of them and the closest one in age to me is five years older than me.
[20:05]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[20:05]
Yinka
And then it goes up from there. And they just took over and looked after us. I was 18, 19 when my mom passed away and they just. And my brothers were younger.
[20:14]
Dilly Carter
Pivotal.
[20:15]
Yinka
Yeah. And it's really young. And I looked after her before, before she passed and they just.
[20:20]
Dilly Carter
That must have been tough.
[20:21]
Yinka
Yeah. But they just took over and they just. It wasn't always sunshine and rainbows. I mean, we don't always get on. But over the years and we lost my dad two years ago, so over the years of going through extraordinary highs of, you know, having children or me being able to take the family on a holiday. And one year for my birthday, I took everyone to a barn and then there was this freak storm, so the power went out. But I was with all my siblings and we just were by the fire playing cards that I kept in the fridge.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[20:49]
Yinka
You know, it's just we have always been together.
[20:55]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
And when I was younger, I never understood why my parents had so many children. I always thought that that's a lot
[21:00]
Dilly Carter
of kids, it's a lot to deal with.
[21:02]
Yinka
But having six ready made best friends who. And a lot of my friends are. They find it a bit weird how close me and my siblings are because my sisters, they're my best friends. Like we're in the same friendship groups, we have the same friends and. And you know, it could be a little bit codependent, but for us it works and we raise our children together. Some of them are married, some of us have got, you know, long term partners and they all just kind of fit into this gorgeous stew of our family.
[21:28]
Dilly Carter
I mean, how incredible is that?
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Sharival
Absolutely.
[21:31]
Dilly Carter
So rare to hear that. But how amazing that you've created. It's almost like your own village amongst you.
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Yinka
Yeah. Like my sister Sade, who looks after my baby. She's like my mum. You know, everything apart from kind of anatomy, you know, apart from the actual reason that we're related. It's a mothering relationship. You know, when you look from the outside in, you could be forgiven for thinking that, you know, we all seem like only children because there's so many of us that I think there's a sort of just a little bit of a main character thing going on with all of us. But you could be forgiven for thinking that, or you could be forgiven for thinking that. You know, our lifestyles are flashy because you get to meet famous people and, you know, you're sort of invited to parties and all of that sort of stuff. But actually, in reality I'm at home chopping cabbage for the coleslaw. Yeah, but. And that's the beauty of it and that's the importance. And I think that this item just sort of in a nutshell. It's like there's so much stuff going on all the time and things change and your career can change and your life can change and there's different factors and are you hot? Are you not? Blah, blah, blah. But when you have a family who A, will always tell you the truth, but B, who really like you and are there for you.
[22:52]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
All you've got to do is go home.
[22:54]
Dilly Carter
And do you still have your family home?
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Yinka
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My sister and brothers live there.
[22:58]
Dilly Carter
Yeah, they're all there together.
[22:59]
Yinka
They. They love it, man.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah, they love it.
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Yinka
We moved there in, I think it was the year 2000 or 2001, which feels like yesterday, but it was quite a while ago now and sort of that's where I have the most of my teenage memories and last memories of my mom. And that's when I got my own room because we moved from a four bedroom flat to a six bedroom house.
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Dilly Carter
I mean, there's seven of you.
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Yinka
Yeah, yeah. It was like, wow, how was that? It was very busy.
[23:29]
Dilly Carter
Busy. I mean, sharing that space. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause how many would they have been in a room?
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Yinka
Well, because we, you know, I don't know if it's the same in your family, but there's always sort of like aunties and uncles running about as well.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah, they.
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Yinka
Yeah. So my mum used to foster children as well. And so it was always really busy and really vibrant and I, I always thought I had like 10 brothers and sisters because, you know, this is your new brother, X, Y and Z and this is your new sister. So.
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Dilly Carter
And so always people in and out. So had an open house and I've
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Yinka
always had that kind of mind frame and I think that's probably why I'm happy for people to leave.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
I'm like, you can come, but you have to go. Whereas my sister is. Come, come, you want to move in, bring your bags. Like, she's very, very welcoming.
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Sharival
Yeah.
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Yinka
And that's just the way that we've always sort of lived and that's why all of us have still Got a key to our family home, even though we don't live there anymore, which is so lovely.
[24:19]
Dilly Carter
You can just go there anytime. Yeah.
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Yinka
And they can't pretend not to be in except to open the door.
[24:22]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
What are you gonna do?
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Dilly Carter
I know you're there. No hiding behind the sofa.
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Sharival
Exactly.
[24:27]
Dilly Carter
Going back to your chess piece and your board games. I hope they're all organized.
[24:31]
Yinka
Oh, of course.
[24:32]
Dilly Carter
How have you got your board games organised?
[24:34]
Yinka
Well, you're gonna love this. Right, so above my stairs I have a really big bookcase.
[24:39]
Dilly Carter
Yep.
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Yinka
And in the last sort of column I have my board games and we have board games. So that would be anything from Scrabble to Snakes and Ladders. But then we have the interactive board games. Right. Which is the articulate, the five second rule, the double.
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Dilly Carter
All the ones.
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Yinka
Yeah, yeah. And then we have games.
[25:01]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
And games are like chess or Pictionary, you know, things that you've got to do things with.
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Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
And that's how I organize it.
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Dilly Carter
And when they're on their shelves, are they all in high order?
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Yinka
Yeah, like a little pyramid.
[25:13]
Dilly Carter
Oh, good, good.
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Yinka
Yeah, it looks. It looks good.
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Dilly Carter
And actually, if you are lacking space and if you are a family that have lots and lots of board games, you can empty the board games and you know, this is very controversial, but you can empty the board games into the plastic sleeves and then you can just write the board game on there, cut the front, front of the board game cover off, put in the instructions and then you can line them up on the shelf. Yeah. So then you can fit in 30, 40 board games onto one shelf rather than all the big heavy boxes. Because sometimes the board games take up so much space that actually when you don't have space, and if you're a lover of board games, then it's a great way to reduce them by emptying the board games into the bag so that you can keep them nice and organized. You know, when your board games expand, maybe that's something you can think about if you need to do that. So if you had to, what would you donate, keep or sell out of those three items?
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Yinka
I would donate the baby monitor.
[26:12]
Dilly Carter
Donate the baby monitor.
[26:13]
Yinka
Yeah. I would keep the dental floss. You can't take it away from me. No matter how much you try. I'd go down kicking and screaming and sell the chess piece.
[26:22]
Dilly Carter
Sell the chess piece.
[26:22]
Yinka
Because that's the options in the game you've given me.
[26:25]
Dilly Carter
It's the only options. It's the only options you've got.
[26:28]
Yinka
I've got nothing Left.
[26:29]
Dilly Carter
You've got nothing left. I'm sorry. That's all you can do. So before we go, just one more question. Where in your home is your happy place?
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Yinka
Where in my home is my happy place? The feeling of going home after a long day and just unlocking that door and the familiar smell, the familiar temperature, the familiar plant.
[26:55]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
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Yinka
And knowing that, you know, if my baby's there waiting for me or my partner's there waiting for me, you know, that feeling of just dropping your shoulders is something that is so priceless. Yeah. My home is my happy place. And I also think that you, like, rents and mortgages are a lot of money, so you're paying a lot to leave it. You know, like, people go out all the time. And I'm like, you've paid so much money to not be somewhere like, you should. You've paid for this. You should sit on that sofa.
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Dilly Carter
Yes. And I like that. I love that. In fact, I love being in my house as well. I think, like you just said, we spend so much money on our houses and.
[27:36]
Yinka
To go out.
[27:37]
Dilly Carter
Yeah, to go out. Why, I could just sit in front of the fire. That's my happy place. To sit in front of my fire, on my sofa.
[27:43]
Yinka
You have a fire.
[27:44]
Dilly Carter
I've got an open fire.
[27:45]
Yinka
Yeah. Gorgeous.
[27:46]
Dilly Carter
My favorite time of the week is a Sunday afternoon. The fire's on and we're both just sat there. Him at one side of the sofa, me at the other, the dog in the middle by my feet. You know, like you said, we don't want to escape them. Why would we want to?
[27:59]
Yinka
No, exactly.
[28:01]
Dilly Carter
Yinka, thank you so much. You've been so lovely. It's been so lovely to talk to you and find out all about the things that you have around your home in your fridge. You know, I love it all.
[28:12]
Yinka
No, because now it's going to follow me around.
[28:14]
Dilly Carter
It's not. No.
[28:15]
Yinka
And I'm the car fridge person.
[28:17]
Dilly Carter
You are the cards in the fridge person forever. But I love that. And I love that I've met you and I love that I've got to sit and talk with you. So thank you so much.
[28:24]
Yinka
Thank you, sweetheart.
[28:28]
Dilly Carter
I can't wait to be back with you. For more revealing home truths, organizational hacks and celeb unboxings. Sort your life out. Unpacked is presented by me, Dilly Carter. You can watch us on iplayer and listen on BBC Sounds and don't forget to subscribe on BBC Sounds and have push notifications turned on to make sure you don't miss any episode.
[28:54]
Sharival
Their tactics may be evolving.
[28:56]
Yinka
There's nobody who's safe from a sophisticated attack.
[28:59]
Sharival
But the fight back against the scammers is on.
[29:02]
Dilly Carter
I know exactly what you're up to.
[29:04]
Yinka
I know how much money you've stolen from my mom.
[29:06]
Sharival
I'm Sharival. And together with the Scam Secrets team, we shine light on the techniques criminals are using techniques to steal your money so we can put the power back into your hands. He's wary. He spotted the red flags himself.
[29:21]
Yinka
That's really saved her from a whole lot of financial devastation.
[29:24]
Sharival
The brand new series of Scam Secrets. Listen first on BBC Sounds.

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Sort Your Life Out Unpacked

Episode: Yinka Bokinni: Red Carpet Dental Floss
Date: August 11, 2026
Host: Dilly Carter
Guest: Yinka Bokinni

Episode Overview

In this warm and lively episode, organization expert Dilly Carter chats with award-winning presenter Yinka Bokinni. Together, they unpack three mystery objects from Yinka’s home, each sparking heartfelt conversations about motherhood, family rituals, personal quirks, and the realities of keeping life and home “sorted” – especially with a toddler and a big, close-knit family. As Dilly and Yinka explore these objects, they share candid tips on organisation, laughter, and the power of home as sanctuary. The conversation radiates candid humour and practical wisdom, balancing vulnerability and fun.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Yinka's Approach to Organization and Home Life

Yinka rates herself an “8 out of 10” on organization—leaving “room for improvement” (01:18).
- Quote: “I’ve got an Excel doc in my mind. ... Even in my house, it’s pretty chaotic. ... But I know where everything is.” – Yinka (01:33)
She manages chaos with mental systems, knowing the unique spot for every item—even if it seems odd to outsiders.
- Quote: “If you want scissors, they’re in the drawer above the bin. ... If you want wrapping paper, it’s underneath the bed in the third compartment.” – Yinka (01:45)
Yinka is proud of making her home “warm and inviting,” but admits guests are occasionally ushered out quickly to preserve her space (02:32).
- Humour: “You are welcome between 4 and 5pm for 5 minutes and then you must go.” – Dilly (02:46), “And then we slap our knees and we say woo and everyone knows that it’s time to vacate.” – Yinka (02:51)

Memorable Quirks

She keeps playing cards in her fridge —a legacy of living in shared accommodations and wanting to always know where they are (03:55–04:50).
- Quote: “People will be like, oh, do you want to play cards? And I say, of course, they’re in the fridge. …” – Yinka (04:18)
Proud plant mum: Yinka nurtures her houseplants, talks to them, and treats them as beloved family members (05:41–06:07).
- Quote: “I wipe them down. We have chats in the night.” – Yinka (06:00)

2. First Object: Baby Monitor — Symbol of Motherhood

[06:40]

Object: Baby monitor – representing the constant vigilance of motherhood and how her attention has shifted since becoming a mother.
- Quote: “This baby monitor…was sort of a good visual representation of the shift of my mind and the shift of my eyes. Always have to be open…because she will climb on that.” – Yinka (07:21)
Yinka describes becoming “nicer” and more family-focused after motherhood (07:49).
- Quote: “It’s softened me in a way I didn’t realise could happen.” – Yinka (07:49)
She grew up in a lively household—one of seven siblings. Her family’s dynamic deeply influences her approach to parenting and organizing.
On keeping her daughter’s toys organized: Teaching her young child the tradition of donating old toys to make room for new ones (09:36–09:59).
- Insight from Dilly: Involving children in the donation process empowers them, preventing anxiety over lost possessions (09:55).

3. Second Object: Bag of Dental Floss — Life On (And Off) Camera

[12:02]

Object: Bag of dental flosses, always in her handbag – a red-carpet readiness hack.
- Quote: “You cannot have anything in your teeth. ... That is ridiculous. ... It’s one of my biggest fears.” – Yinka (12:27)
Yinka’s ever-present dental floss represents both the anxiety and the necessity of looking presentable as a broadcaster and the practical side of being busy.
- Telling Moment: She recounts finishing an interview with Ed Sheeran, only to discover spinach in her teeth after the fact. (13:22–13:43)
The conversation segues into how she keeps toiletries organized—using a three-tier “lazy Susan” with separate zones for toothbrushes, face creams, nail care, and baby hair care (15:01–15:55).
- Quote: “I’m the remedy to his [my partner’s] chaos.” – Yinka (16:16)

4. Third Object: Chess Queen — Family, Resilience, and Togetherness

[18:09]

Object: Small chess queen from a mini chess set – symbolising the importance of family game nights and their evolving traditions.
- Quote: “The chess piece represents games and family game night…and playing games with my nieces, my nephews, my partner, my brothers, my sisters. We are such a game family.” – Yinka (18:35–18:46)
With a rotation of games (chess, Cluedo, Game of Life), board games have become a thread connecting family memory and healing, especially after the loss of both parents (19:48–21:00).
- Heartfelt Moment: Yinka recounts the passing of her mum (2008) and later her dad, and how her siblings “just took over” caring for one another (19:51–20:20).
Family is her ‘village’: Siblings serve as best friends, co-parents, and core supporters. The family home remains a central hub (21:28–22:52).
- Quote: “All you’ve got to do is go home.” – Yinka (22:52)
Family openness: The Bokinni house is full of siblings, in-laws, and sometimes foster children—reaffirming a loving sense of “organized chaos” mixed with deep attachment (23:24–24:11).

Organizational Tips & Takeaways

Give everything “a home”—it doesn’t matter how unusual the spot, as long as you remember where it is.
Involve children in decluttering to build positive associations with giving and sharing.
Use shelf organizers (like a three-tier lazy Susan) and categorize by use zone—a practical hack for busy bathrooms (15:01–15:55).
Gaming storage: Consider grouping board games by type, and (controversially) store pieces in labelled bags to save space if collections keep growing (25:14).
- Dilly: “If you are a lover of board games, then it’s a great way to reduce them by emptying…into the bag so that you can keep them nice and organized.” (25:15)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Organization:
- “I’ve got an Excel doc in my mind.” – Yinka (01:33)
- “My plants, they live a life of luxury.” – Yinka (05:49)
On Family and Home:
- “Having six ready-made best friends… they all just kind of fit into this gorgeous stew of our family.” – Yinka (21:02)
- “All you’ve got to do is go home.” – Yinka (22:52)
- “My home is my happy place…that feeling of just dropping your shoulders is so priceless.” – Yinka (26:39)
On Quirks:
- “I keep my playing cards in the fridge.” – Yinka (03:55)
- “You cannot have anything in your teeth. ... That is ridiculous.” – Yinka on camera anxieties (12:27)
- “And now I’m the cards-in-the-fridge person forever.” – Yinka (28:16)

Timestamps for Key Segments

Yinka’s organizational style & quirks: 01:13–05:41
Motherhood, the baby monitor & family priorities: 06:40–09:36
Yinka’s toy-donating tradition & decluttering tips: 09:36–10:55
Dental floss & red-carpet readiness: 12:02–13:48
Bathroom organization tips: 15:01–15:54
Chess piece & family game night lore: 18:09–19:48
Personal family story and resilience: 19:48–24:22
Board game storage hacks: 24:31–25:15
What to keep, donate, or sell: 26:07–26:28
Yinka’s “happy place”: 26:39–27:59

Final Thoughts

This episode of Sort Your Life Out Unpacked is a heartfelt exploration of how organization intersects with love, loss, and the vibrant quirks that forge family identity. Yinka Bokinni’s personality shines, from her fridge-bound playing cards to her rituals of nurturing plants and orchestrating game nights. Through laughter and honesty, she reminds listeners that home is less about perfection and more about intention—creating a place of comfort, meaning, and togetherness.

Dilly Carter’s closing words capture the tone:
“You’ve been so lovely. ... I love that I’ve met you and I love that I’ve got to sit and talk with you.” (28:16–28:24)

Listen and watch: Sort Your Life Out Unpacked is available on iPlayer and BBC Sounds.

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[00:00]
Yinka
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[00:37]
Dilly Carter
I'm Dilly Carter, the organized one. And this is Sort yout Life Out Unpacked. Get ready to unpack three boxes with my celebrity guest. Every box has an item from their own home, plus a load of stories and memories. And standby for my tips on how to sort your own life out too. This episode, my guest is a presenter who was born and raised in London. You've heard her on Radio 1 and you've seen her on TV documentaries. She gives herself a very capable 8 out of 10 when it comes to organization, which is doubly impressive given she has a one year old daughter. Welcome to the brilliant Yinka bikini.
[01:14]
Yinka
Thank you.
[01:15]
Dilly Carter
Hello. So nice to meet you. I mean, eight out of ten is impressive.
[01:18]
Yinka
Yeah. Because I wanted to give room for improvement.
[01:21]
Dilly Carter
Okay.
[01:22]
Yinka
But I'm often impressed daily and weekly by how much I get done and how much I remember. So I wanted to be honest with the rating.
[01:30]
Dilly Carter
When you're eight, you're like, you know, you're quite.
[01:31]
Yinka
No, I've got.
[01:32]
Dilly Carter
You're solid in your conviction, you know,
[01:34]
Yinka
an Excel dock in my mind. Oh, really? And even in my house, it's pretty chaotic. I am a bit impulsive. I impulsively do things and buy things and all of that, but I know where everything is.
[01:44]
Dilly Carter
That's key.
[01:45]
Yinka
If you want scissors, they're in the drawer above the bin. If you want wrapping paper, it's underneath the bed in the third compartment. Like, I know where things are even if it doesn't make sense to everybody.
[01:56]
Dilly Carter
I love that. That is really important. Do you think you've got photographic memory? No, because like, you just described that like I'm. I work in people's houses, obviously. It's what I've been doing for 25 years. And if someone rings me and says, where is this? I go literally close my eyes and I'm like, it's in the left drawer by this, at the back of this. I can still remember. I remember where most things are. If I place them in your house, I remember where it is.
[02:19]
Yinka
How does it feel being one of God's favorites?
[02:20]
Dilly Carter
I know, she's really good. So before we unbox your items from home, I'm going to ask you a few quick fire questions. So number one, how would you describe your home in a sentence?
[02:33]
Yinka
I would say that my home is warm and inviting, lovely, and you're always
[02:39]
Dilly Carter
welcome for a time, for five minutes
[02:45]
Yinka
and then it's time to go home.
[02:47]
Dilly Carter
You are welcome between 4 and 5pm for 5 minutes and then you must go.
[02:51]
Yinka
And then we slap our knees and we say woo and everyone knows that it's time to vacate.
[02:56]
Dilly Carter
Yeah, this was lovely. Thank you so much. Now I must put the baby to bed. If I turned up unannounced, what room would you be banning me from entering?
[03:05]
Yinka
I would ban you from entering my laundry room. So this house that I live in is the first time to have a room that's designated for laundry.
[03:14]
Dilly Carter
Yes.
[03:15]
Yinka
And the house is like really nicely decorated. Me and my other half did it together. We're really proud. But where the washing takes place, that is chaos. I mean, there's clean laundry, dirty laundry, there's stuff on the floor. I hang things on the, like the things sticking out of the wall. It's just. It smells fabulous. But it's my Monica cupboard. Like, it's a no go.
[03:37]
Dilly Carter
Everyone has a moniker cupboard. Nice to be able to close the doors on it. Do you keep anything in a particularly weird place?
[03:45]
Yinka
Well, yeah, but I didn't know this was weird and. Okay, I know it's weird, but I didn't realize how strange it was until I saw everybody's reactions.
[03:54]
Dilly Carter
So I'm intrigued.
[03:56]
Yinka
I keep my playing cards in the fridge.
[03:57]
Sharival
What?
[03:58]
Yinka
Yeah. And it's not to keep them fresh. I know that they don't go off. It's not milk. I understand that, but it's that I've always lived in shared accommodation, right.
[04:07]
Dilly Carter
So.
[04:07]
Yinka
And we would always lose them. So I put them just like where the eggs go, so I always know where they are. It's part of that, the organization in my mind. So.
[04:17]
Dilly Carter
So the playing cards live in the fridge.
[04:19]
Yinka
It's just where I've always kept them. And then when I have friends coming over, or even my family are used to it now, people will be like, oh, do you want to play cards? And I say, of course they're in the fridge. And then I get that exact look. That exact look is what I get.
[04:32]
Dilly Carter
I'm baffled.
[04:33]
Yinka
No. But until I explain that it's not to. It's not because I Think they're perishable. It's just the place that I just
[04:39]
Dilly Carter
thought, you know, that it's always contained. It's always going to be there.
[04:43]
Yinka
Yeah. Because you put them in the fridge and then you don't go in that bit of the fridge. So it goes in the door.
[04:47]
Dilly Carter
Oh, you put them in the door of the fridge?
[04:49]
Yinka
Yeah, in the door. The little bit where the eggs are meant to go.
[04:51]
Dilly Carter
Yeah. I mean, that's another question. Do your eggs go in the fridge or do they not?
[04:54]
Yinka
Oh, I put my eggs in the fridge.
[04:55]
Dilly Carter
You know, your eggs shouldn't go in the fridge.
[04:56]
Yinka
But then they say after you buy
[04:57]
Dilly Carter
them, you fridge because your eggs. Basically, when we think about where we store things in our homes, always think about where you bought them from.
[05:06]
Yinka
And you bought them from the shelf.
[05:08]
Dilly Carter
You bought them from a shelf.
[05:09]
Sharival
Yeah.
[05:10]
Dilly Carter
So why are they now going into the. In, into the fridge?
[05:12]
Yinka
You're asking real questions.
[05:14]
Dilly Carter
This is. This is what this podcast is about. It's ask answering real life questions. Yeah.
[05:18]
Yinka
Because now they're going to stay on the side.
[05:20]
Dilly Carter
It's a mystery. It's a mystery. Why? Because the other mystery is why do they then give you a fridge container that's purpose built with an egg thing? An egg container?
[05:30]
Yinka
Little holes.
[05:30]
Dilly Carter
Every fridge you buy has an egg container.
[05:33]
Yinka
Yeah.
[05:33]
Dilly Carter
Why? It's not meant to go in the fridge.
[05:36]
Yinka
They're trying to trick us.
[05:36]
Dilly Carter
They're trying to. There's some sort of witchery going on.
[05:39]
Yinka
Something going on.
[05:40]
Dilly Carter
What about your home are you most proud of?
[05:42]
Yinka
The thing is, I'm not really. I'm not like a house proud person, but I am proud of my plants.
[05:49]
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[05:50]
Yinka
I am a plant mum.
[05:52]
Dilly Carter
So whereas most people, I would say I can't keep anything alive.
[05:55]
Yinka
No, no. My plants, they live a life of luxury.
[05:58]
Dilly Carter
So you like, nurture them? Sp.
[06:01]
Yinka
Yeah, I wipe them down. We have chats in the night.
[06:04]
Dilly Carter
You talk to them.
[06:05]
Yinka
I do.
[06:05]
Dilly Carter
Like a plant sanctuary, I love.
[06:07]
Yinka
And when a plant. When I lose a plant. Oh, it's a dark day. You've got to cover the windows with shrouds. Like in that scene in Bridgerton. Like. Yeah. Put black on the mirrors.
[06:17]
Dilly Carter
Oh, my gosh. Oh, gosh. Okay. Right, let's move on to your first box, shall we? Yes. Right, hand it over. I'm very excited to see what you brought in. Is it gonna be a plant in this box? So I'm opening the small box and in this small box, my first box. Oh. Is a camera. And I think now, is this a. Just A camera that you've got in your house, or is this a baby monitor type of camera?
[06:41]
Yinka
This is a camera to put in the studio so that, you know, I'm always watching. I'm joking.
[06:45]
Dilly Carter
Big Brother is watching you.
[06:46]
Yinka
This is a baby monitor.
[06:47]
Dilly Carter
Ah, baby monitor. Because, yes, of course, you have recently had a baby. So tell me all about.
[06:54]
Yinka
So she is.
[06:56]
Dilly Carter
What is she?
[06:56]
Yinka
A year and a half.
[06:57]
Dilly Carter
A year and a half, yeah.
[06:58]
Yinka
And she's amazing. She's changed my life. And I think anyone who has become a mother. Yeah. Sort of understands the push and pull of it to an extent that you would never really get it. Yeah. Otherwise, I. I've got so many nieces and nephews. My daughter makes 12 of the sort of second generation of my family.
[07:21]
Dilly Carter
Wow.
[07:21]
Yinka
And every day is brand new. So I thought that this baby monitor, which I use very often when she's having her naps and when she's sleeping in the nighttime, was sort of a good visual representation of the sort of shift of my mind and the shift of my eyes. Always have to be open and I have to be, you know, looking everywhere and in the back of my head, because she will climb on that.
[07:44]
Dilly Carter
Yes. She's here, there and everywhere. And how has motherhood changed you?
[07:49]
Yinka
It's made me nicer, to be honest. I think I've always been quite a pleasant person, but it's softened me in a way that I didn't realize could happen. You know, I've got a lot more time for my family and I take much more time for my family.
[08:07]
Dilly Carter
And you've got a big family, haven't you? You're one of seven, aren't you?
[08:10]
Yinka
I'm one of seven.
[08:10]
Dilly Carter
One of seven.
[08:11]
Yinka
It's really loud.
[08:12]
Whole Foods Market Advertiser
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[08:12]
Yinka
That's why I talk so much, because I don't get to talk at home.
[08:15]
Dilly Carter
This is your chance to talk as much as you can.
[08:17]
Yinka
But before, I would work and work and work and you know what it's like sort of, you know, being a freelancer and being on screen or on mic. You're only as good as the job that you have coming up. Whatever you've done, even if it was yesterday or today, that's. That doesn't matter. It's what is next, the next stepping stone. And motherhood has sort of forced me to recalibrate and rethink about what is important. And the why is very important to me now. And I'm really grateful for that. Having that balance and knowing what is my priority now.
[08:52]
Dilly Carter
How was your birth?
[08:53]
Yinka
It was probably by anyone's it was probably quite traumatic, but because I was in labour for five days.
[08:58]
Dilly Carter
Oh, wow.
[08:59]
Yinka
But I feel like I could do it again.
[09:02]
Dilly Carter
You very quickly forget, don't you, the pain that you went through.
[09:05]
Yinka
It's a bit like a tattoo.
[09:06]
Dilly Carter
Yeah, it is, isn't it?
[09:07]
Yinka
Because when I'm in that tattoo chair, I think, why am I doing this to myself?
[09:10]
Dilly Carter
I know so much. Stop.
[09:11]
Yinka
And then two weeks later, I think I've got space on the back of my arm.
[09:14]
Sharival
Yeah.
[09:14]
Dilly Carter
Let's have another one. Yeah. Does your daughter have a nursery?
[09:18]
Yinka
Yeah, yeah. Ye. She's just taken over.
[09:20]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[09:22]
Yinka
Once there was a box and then there were three boxes, and now there's an entire unit and a rug. And then she's got her own room of all these toys and her cot. And then now in the kitchen there's stuff. And everywhere I look, I'm standing on Lego.
[09:35]
Dilly Carter
It just multiplies, doesn't it?
[09:37]
Yinka
Yeah. So we're implementing this lovely thing, which we're going to start on her second birthday and at Christmas as well, is that we're going to donate all the toys that she doesn't to make space for the toys that she's gonna receive.
[09:50]
Dilly Carter
So important.
[09:50]
Yinka
And especially at Christmas as well. So I'm starting to sort of separate the toys that are a bit young for her.
[09:55]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[09:56]
Yinka
And then I'm gonna take her with me and make sure that we do that as a tradition together.
[10:00]
Dilly Carter
That's a really, really important thing you've just said there. Because actually, when children are donating their toys or when you're trying to reduce children's toys, taking them with you to see that process, I mean, your daughter's very young still, but even then, being a part of that process of donating, going to the charity shop, filling up the bag, it just teaches from a young age, rather than always thinking or being scared that Mummy's gonna clear my toys now, and they see everything go in a bag and then it disappears. Actually, that can be quite daunting for a kid. They're like, hold on, I don't. And that will stop them wanting to donate. Yeah. So from a young age, if you can get them involved in that process, it's so important. Is everything quite organized?
[10:35]
Yinka
It was organized.
[10:37]
Dilly Carter
It was.
[10:37]
Yinka
But then I'm not her only parent.
[10:39]
Dilly Carter
Okay.
[10:40]
Yinka
And when he comes home, he's like, just put it all in. We've gotta tidy up. So it sort of goes by the wayside a little bit. He's a shover.
[10:47]
Dilly Carter
He shoves it. Oh, no. We Would not get on. He's a shover, she's a shover. Shover of stuff. Shove it in the cupboard. Shove it in the drawer. Quick, everyone's coming around.
[10:56]
Yinka
Sometimes when I open a cupboard, things may fall and I'm like, who put this in here? He's like, sorry. So yeah, and I'm a. If you put things away properly the first time, you don't have to do it again. If you shove. You're just doing two jobs now.
[11:09]
Dilly Carter
We're cut from the same cloth, you and me.
[11:11]
Yinka
Yeah.
[11:11]
Dilly Carter
Aren't we exactly do it right the first time. Shall we have a look at your second item?
[11:19]
Yinka
Yes.
[11:19]
Dilly Carter
Okay, so this is medium sized box. Oh, let's see what's in this one. So in our second box. Oh, I think this is, this is a slightly more random thing.
[11:34]
Yinka
You're gonna think I'm weird.
[11:35]
Dilly Carter
I don't think you're weird at all. I mean, believe me, I've, you know, seen lots of different things in my life.
[11:41]
Yinka
This is gonna make sense.
[11:43]
Dilly Carter
Okay, so I've pulled out a little orange see through, almost like a gift bag. What are these called now? What's the word for this bag? It's like a not.
[11:52]
Yinka
I don't know, it's like a little pouch. Yeah.
[11:54]
Dilly Carter
Let's just say this little orange pouch. It's see through but in the little orange pouch. Dental flosses.
[12:02]
Yinka
Yes.
[12:03]
Dilly Carter
Dental flosses. Yes. So this is a bag of dental flosses.
[12:06]
Yinka
And I carry it everywhere I go dilly. Do you really?
[12:10]
Dilly Carter
In your handbag?
[12:11]
Yinka
Yeah.
[12:11]
Dilly Carter
You never leave home without five dental floss in your bag.
[12:14]
Yinka
Absolutely not.
[12:15]
Dilly Carter
Tell me about these. Why have we got these?
[12:17]
Yinka
I thought it was a really good representation of my job. Because you have always on camera. I'm always on camera. And you cannot have anything in your teeth.
[12:27]
Dilly Carter
No.
[12:28]
Yinka
That is ridiculous.
[12:29]
Dilly Carter
But that's like a real worry, isn't it?
[12:31]
Yinka
Yeah. And it's one of my biggest fears.
[12:33]
Dilly Carter
Your biggest fear is someone filming you with something in your teeth? Yeah.
[12:36]
Yinka
Or getting hiccups on air. But that's a different story.
[12:38]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[12:39]
Yinka
So basically I carry dental sticks wherever I go. I used to carry dental floss and then I'd have like string. Yeah, you've just got in my pocket. That's gross.
[12:48]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[12:48]
Yinka
Right. Whereas these, you can be a little bit more discreet because you're not. It's not a two hander.
[12:52]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[12:53]
Yinka
You know, just. And then also you can snack because sometimes you're on your feet for eight hours.
[12:58]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[12:59]
Yinka
And you don't know when your next meal is going to be. Potentially, you just get a bar then. Yeah. Oh, peanut in your tooth.
[13:04]
Dilly Carter
I have just had a peanut bar, to be fair.
[13:06]
Yinka
Would you like a dental stick?
[13:07]
Dilly Carter
I was thinking, should I be using this? Have I got anything else?
[13:10]
Yinka
And I would tell you if you did.
[13:11]
Dilly Carter
Thank you.
[13:12]
Yinka
And you do not. Your teeth look amazing.
[13:13]
Dilly Carter
Thank you.
[13:14]
Yinka
People never tell you if there is something in your teeth. Oh, I'm a teller and I appreciate that because the other day I would tell you I interviewed Ed Sheeran.
[13:22]
Dilly Carter
Yeah. Oh, wow.
[13:23]
Yinka
And then I. And we finished and it was great. And I was like, you know what, Yinka, you're a master at your job. And I went to the bathroom and I went to pat myself on the back and I looked in the mirror and bang, no spinach.
[13:35]
Dilly Carter
Ed didn't tell you from my omelette. He did not tell you.
[13:38]
Yinka
Well, I don't think he saw because the microphone was in front of your face. But everyone else saw.
[13:43]
Dilly Carter
And no one told you. No.
[13:45]
Yinka
And then all of the videos use it from a certain side. Yeah.
[13:48]
Dilly Carter
But you can't see it.
[13:49]
Yinka
No, no, no, no. It didn't. It didn't go viral or anything. But that's. That's one of my fears. And I just think in my job, you spend three hours getting ready to do something for 10 minutes.
[14:02]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[14:02]
Yinka
You. The majority of my time is spent making sure that I look like I am meant to be there. Whereas obviously the half an hour, one hour, 15 minutes, whatever you spend doing the actual job is the most important thing. And imagine all of that work going by the wayside because I've got popcorn there. It's such a funny thing because I'm not particularly precious about pictures or videos or anything like that of me going out there. I don't really mind how I look, but the way I look is really important and it is sort of part of my brand that you kind of feel like.
[14:37]
Sharival
Yes.
[14:37]
Dilly Carter
Cultivate.
[14:37]
Yinka
Yeah. And especially if you, you know, you use it in your job.
[14:41]
Dilly Carter
Of course.
[14:41]
Yinka
And my brand can't be the girl with things in her teeth.
[14:43]
Dilly Carter
Yeah. I mean, what would people think that's fallen to the way she's become a mum and now look at her.
[14:48]
Yinka
Yeah.
[14:49]
Dilly Carter
She doesn't even brush her teeth. Are your toiletries organised at home? I mean, it sounds like it is. Everything has a place.
[14:57]
Yinka
Yes. Yes. I have a little, sort of like. It's like a lazy Susan.
[15:02]
Dilly Carter
Love. A lazy Susan in the bathroom with all your products on.
[15:06]
Yinka
Yeah. So at the top is.
[15:07]
Dilly Carter
I love that you know what a lazy season is?
[15:09]
Yinka
Yeah.
[15:10]
Dilly Carter
That makes me so happy.
[15:11]
Yinka
At least I. I see you.
[15:13]
Dilly Carter
Yeah, I can feel that.
[15:14]
Yinka
I see you.
[15:14]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[15:15]
Yinka
And I respect you.
[15:16]
Dilly Carter
Thank you. Thank you. I feel like we're kindred spirits. This is it. Yeah.
[15:19]
Yinka
So on the, on the lazy, it's
[15:21]
Dilly Carter
three tier and fancy one.
[15:23]
Yinka
My toothbrush at the top.
[15:24]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[15:25]
Yinka
With. It's sort of like my. I've got two toothbrushes, I've got a manual and a.
[15:30]
Dilly Carter
Of course you have.
[15:31]
Yinka
Yeah. So it depends on. It actually depends on if I'm being lazy. So if I can't give myself the full two and a half minutes with the electric, I'll just go in with a manual anyway. And so the toothpaste and then face creams.
[15:43]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[15:43]
Yinka
And then the middle tier is sort of nail things.
[15:46]
Dilly Carter
Nail care.
[15:47]
Yinka
Yeah. So nail clippers, nail brush, files and hand cream and things like that. And then the bottom is daily hair care, mostly for the baby.
[15:55]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[15:55]
Yinka
So shampoo, conditioner, hair curling cream and maybe a comb or something.
[16:02]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[16:03]
Yinka
And then that exists and that rotates. And then in the cupboards are the stock.
[16:11]
Dilly Carter
Stock for those things.
[16:12]
Yinka
For those things, yeah. Very organized now.
[16:15]
Dilly Carter
Is your partner organized?
[16:16]
Yinka
I am. The remedy to his chaos.
[16:18]
Dilly Carter
Yeah. That's nice though. I like that. The remedy to his chaos. That's a nice term.
[16:22]
Yinka
Yeah. I'm trying to be really nice about it. He is k otic, Is he? Yes.
[16:28]
Dilly Carter
So, I mean, he's a shover.
[16:29]
Yinka
Yeah.
[16:30]
Dilly Carter
So we've already, we know this picture already.
[16:31]
Yinka
And he's a. Like, I know that he showered because when he showers everything falls off the. Off of the shelf. He is. He's like a tornado.
[16:42]
Dilly Carter
Yeah. I mean, God forbid they are the same as us and they want to keep the house clean and boring. Yeah. I always say to my husband, you know, you're so lucky. I mean, I say that 200 times a day. Do you realize how lucky you are to be married to someone like me? You could be married to someone that's really messy. He's like, yes, I know. Yes, I know. Anyway, moving on from your toothpicks, should we have a look at your third
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[17:34]
Dilly Carter
Bed box. I mean, I've got no idea. I literally have got no clue about what is going to be in this box. Given the last two items.
[17:44]
Yinka
It's a bit heavy.
[17:45]
Dilly Carter
Oh, okay.
[17:46]
Yinka
Not.
[17:47]
Dilly Carter
Oh, it's not. Oh, okay. It's not. This is the biggest box. Let's see what's in this box. Oh, my. I mean, literally, this is the biggest box with the tiniest, tiniest, tiniest little thing in there.
[17:59]
Yinka
I didn't know that the smallest thing was gonna go in the biggest box. That's not on me.
[18:03]
Dilly Carter
The enormity of this box. And I have got the tiniest little chess piece, which is called the pawn.
[18:09]
Yinka
The queen.
[18:10]
Dilly Carter
Oh, no. Is that the pawn?
[18:12]
Yinka
That's the queen.
[18:13]
Dilly Carter
Oh, okay. So, you know, I don't play chess anymore. This is the queen. I thought it was a pawn.
[18:18]
Yinka
Cause it's so tiny.
[18:19]
Dilly Carter
No, she's little.
[18:19]
Yinka
It's a mini chess set.
[18:20]
Dilly Carter
Oh. So thank you. Right. Can I just clarify, if you were to see this chess piece, it looks so small that it looks like the pawn. It does, but it's the queen. Why have we got the queen from the chess set?
[18:32]
Yinka
I'm not sure if you've noticed. All of my items represent something.
[18:36]
Dilly Carter
Yes.
[18:36]
Yinka
So it's not really about those specific items, even though it can be. So the chess piece represents games and family game night.
[18:46]
Dilly Carter
I love it.
[18:47]
Yinka
And playing games with my nieces, my nephews, my partner, my brothers, my sisters. We are such a game, family. And chess is the game of the month that everybody is hooked on. It was Cluedo last month and the game of Life two months ago.
[19:03]
Dilly Carter
But chess is quite a game of time. So how do you do that when you're getting all together? Because, well, you just play.
[19:11]
Yinka
We've been playing sort of two on two.
[19:13]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[19:14]
Yinka
But whenever you've got a spare 20 minutes, we just get the chessboard out and just play, have a whack at it. Every Friday, it's not a Friday night dinner, it's Friday night games time. And whoever's available will just come down and it just. This sort of chess piece, it just represents sort of just that time that I love spending with my family. Like any spare day or a few hours, we're at my family home, which is where my sister and brothers live, and that's our hub for everyone to come together. And we all have keys. So. Sorry, I just show.
[19:45]
Dilly Carter
Yeah, you just turn up. I love that. Why do you think you're all so close.
[19:49]
Yinka
Well, we lost our mum in 2008.
[19:51]
Dilly Carter
I'm sorry.
[19:52]
Yinka
And it's okay. So as an adult, I've not had a mum who's here.
[19:56]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[19:57]
Yinka
So with my sisters, so there's four of them and the closest one in age to me is five years older than me.
[20:05]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[20:05]
Yinka
And then it goes up from there. And they just took over and looked after us. I was 18, 19 when my mom passed away and they just. And my brothers were younger.
[20:14]
Dilly Carter
Pivotal.
[20:15]
Yinka
Yeah. And it's really young. And I looked after her before, before she passed and they just.
[20:20]
Dilly Carter
That must have been tough.
[20:21]
Yinka
Yeah. But they just took over and they just. It wasn't always sunshine and rainbows. I mean, we don't always get on. But over the years and we lost my dad two years ago, so over the years of going through extraordinary highs of, you know, having children or me being able to take the family on a holiday. And one year for my birthday, I took everyone to a barn and then there was this freak storm, so the power went out. But I was with all my siblings and we just were by the fire playing cards that I kept in the fridge.
[20:49]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[20:49]
Yinka
You know, it's just we have always been together.
[20:55]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[20:55]
Yinka
And when I was younger, I never understood why my parents had so many children. I always thought that that's a lot
[21:00]
Dilly Carter
of kids, it's a lot to deal with.
[21:02]
Yinka
But having six ready made best friends who. And a lot of my friends are. They find it a bit weird how close me and my siblings are because my sisters, they're my best friends. Like we're in the same friendship groups, we have the same friends and. And you know, it could be a little bit codependent, but for us it works and we raise our children together. Some of them are married, some of us have got, you know, long term partners and they all just kind of fit into this gorgeous stew of our family.
[21:28]
Dilly Carter
I mean, how incredible is that?
[21:30]
Sharival
Absolutely.
[21:31]
Dilly Carter
So rare to hear that. But how amazing that you've created. It's almost like your own village amongst you.
[21:38]
Yinka
Yeah. Like my sister Sade, who looks after my baby. She's like my mum. You know, everything apart from kind of anatomy, you know, apart from the actual reason that we're related. It's a mothering relationship. You know, when you look from the outside in, you could be forgiven for thinking that, you know, we all seem like only children because there's so many of us that I think there's a sort of just a little bit of a main character thing going on with all of us. But you could be forgiven for thinking that, or you could be forgiven for thinking that. You know, our lifestyles are flashy because you get to meet famous people and, you know, you're sort of invited to parties and all of that sort of stuff. But actually, in reality I'm at home chopping cabbage for the coleslaw. Yeah, but. And that's the beauty of it and that's the importance. And I think that this item just sort of in a nutshell. It's like there's so much stuff going on all the time and things change and your career can change and your life can change and there's different factors and are you hot? Are you not? Blah, blah, blah. But when you have a family who A, will always tell you the truth, but B, who really like you and are there for you.
[22:52]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[22:53]
Yinka
All you've got to do is go home.
[22:54]
Dilly Carter
And do you still have your family home?
[22:56]
Yinka
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My sister and brothers live there.
[22:58]
Dilly Carter
Yeah, they're all there together.
[22:59]
Yinka
They. They love it, man.
[23:00]
Dilly Carter
Yeah, they love it.
[23:02]
Yinka
We moved there in, I think it was the year 2000 or 2001, which feels like yesterday, but it was quite a while ago now and sort of that's where I have the most of my teenage memories and last memories of my mom. And that's when I got my own room because we moved from a four bedroom flat to a six bedroom house.
[23:23]
Dilly Carter
I mean, there's seven of you.
[23:25]
Yinka
Yeah, yeah. It was like, wow, how was that? It was very busy.
[23:29]
Dilly Carter
Busy. I mean, sharing that space. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause how many would they have been in a room?
[23:34]
Yinka
Well, because we, you know, I don't know if it's the same in your family, but there's always sort of like aunties and uncles running about as well.
[23:40]
Dilly Carter
Yeah, they.
[23:41]
Yinka
Yeah. So my mum used to foster children as well. And so it was always really busy and really vibrant and I, I always thought I had like 10 brothers and sisters because, you know, this is your new brother, X, Y and Z and this is your new sister. So.
[23:52]
Dilly Carter
And so always people in and out. So had an open house and I've
[23:56]
Yinka
always had that kind of mind frame and I think that's probably why I'm happy for people to leave.
[24:02]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[24:02]
Yinka
I'm like, you can come, but you have to go. Whereas my sister is. Come, come, you want to move in, bring your bags. Like, she's very, very welcoming.
[24:10]
Sharival
Yeah.
[24:11]
Yinka
And that's just the way that we've always sort of lived and that's why all of us have still Got a key to our family home, even though we don't live there anymore, which is so lovely.
[24:19]
Dilly Carter
You can just go there anytime. Yeah.
[24:20]
Yinka
And they can't pretend not to be in except to open the door.
[24:22]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[24:23]
Yinka
What are you gonna do?
[24:23]
Dilly Carter
I know you're there. No hiding behind the sofa.
[24:26]
Sharival
Exactly.
[24:27]
Dilly Carter
Going back to your chess piece and your board games. I hope they're all organized.
[24:31]
Yinka
Oh, of course.
[24:32]
Dilly Carter
How have you got your board games organised?
[24:34]
Yinka
Well, you're gonna love this. Right, so above my stairs I have a really big bookcase.
[24:39]
Dilly Carter
Yep.
[24:40]
Yinka
And in the last sort of column I have my board games and we have board games. So that would be anything from Scrabble to Snakes and Ladders. But then we have the interactive board games. Right. Which is the articulate, the five second rule, the double.
[24:58]
Dilly Carter
All the ones.
[24:59]
Yinka
Yeah, yeah. And then we have games.
[25:01]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[25:02]
Yinka
And games are like chess or Pictionary, you know, things that you've got to do things with.
[25:07]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[25:08]
Yinka
And that's how I organize it.
[25:09]
Dilly Carter
And when they're on their shelves, are they all in high order?
[25:11]
Yinka
Yeah, like a little pyramid.
[25:13]
Dilly Carter
Oh, good, good.
[25:14]
Yinka
Yeah, it looks. It looks good.
[25:16]
Dilly Carter
And actually, if you are lacking space and if you are a family that have lots and lots of board games, you can empty the board games and you know, this is very controversial, but you can empty the board games into the plastic sleeves and then you can just write the board game on there, cut the front, front of the board game cover off, put in the instructions and then you can line them up on the shelf. Yeah. So then you can fit in 30, 40 board games onto one shelf rather than all the big heavy boxes. Because sometimes the board games take up so much space that actually when you don't have space, and if you're a lover of board games, then it's a great way to reduce them by emptying the board games into the bag so that you can keep them nice and organized. You know, when your board games expand, maybe that's something you can think about if you need to do that. So if you had to, what would you donate, keep or sell out of those three items?
[26:07]
Yinka
I would donate the baby monitor.
[26:12]
Dilly Carter
Donate the baby monitor.
[26:13]
Yinka
Yeah. I would keep the dental floss. You can't take it away from me. No matter how much you try. I'd go down kicking and screaming and sell the chess piece.
[26:22]
Dilly Carter
Sell the chess piece.
[26:22]
Yinka
Because that's the options in the game you've given me.
[26:25]
Dilly Carter
It's the only options. It's the only options you've got.
[26:28]
Yinka
I've got nothing Left.
[26:29]
Dilly Carter
You've got nothing left. I'm sorry. That's all you can do. So before we go, just one more question. Where in your home is your happy place?
[26:39]
Yinka
Where in my home is my happy place? The feeling of going home after a long day and just unlocking that door and the familiar smell, the familiar temperature, the familiar plant.
[26:55]
Dilly Carter
Yeah.
[26:55]
Yinka
And knowing that, you know, if my baby's there waiting for me or my partner's there waiting for me, you know, that feeling of just dropping your shoulders is something that is so priceless. Yeah. My home is my happy place. And I also think that you, like, rents and mortgages are a lot of money, so you're paying a lot to leave it. You know, like, people go out all the time. And I'm like, you've paid so much money to not be somewhere like, you should. You've paid for this. You should sit on that sofa.
[27:27]
Dilly Carter
Yes. And I like that. I love that. In fact, I love being in my house as well. I think, like you just said, we spend so much money on our houses and.
[27:36]
Yinka
To go out.
[27:37]
Dilly Carter
Yeah, to go out. Why, I could just sit in front of the fire. That's my happy place. To sit in front of my fire, on my sofa.
[27:43]
Yinka
You have a fire.
[27:44]
Dilly Carter
I've got an open fire.
[27:45]
Yinka
Yeah. Gorgeous.
[27:46]
Dilly Carter
My favorite time of the week is a Sunday afternoon. The fire's on and we're both just sat there. Him at one side of the sofa, me at the other, the dog in the middle by my feet. You know, like you said, we don't want to escape them. Why would we want to?
[27:59]
Yinka
No, exactly.
[28:01]
Dilly Carter
Yinka, thank you so much. You've been so lovely. It's been so lovely to talk to you and find out all about the things that you have around your home in your fridge. You know, I love it all.
[28:12]
Yinka
No, because now it's going to follow me around.
[28:14]
Dilly Carter
It's not. No.
[28:15]
Yinka
And I'm the car fridge person.
[28:17]
Dilly Carter
You are the cards in the fridge person forever. But I love that. And I love that I've met you and I love that I've got to sit and talk with you. So thank you so much.
[28:24]
Yinka
Thank you, sweetheart.
[28:28]
Dilly Carter
I can't wait to be back with you. For more revealing home truths, organizational hacks and celeb unboxings. Sort your life out. Unpacked is presented by me, Dilly Carter. You can watch us on iplayer and listen on BBC Sounds and don't forget to subscribe on BBC Sounds and have push notifications turned on to make sure you don't miss any episode.
[28:54]
Sharival
Their tactics may be evolving.
[28:56]
Yinka
There's nobody who's safe from a sophisticated attack.
[28:59]
Sharival
But the fight back against the scammers is on.
[29:02]
Dilly Carter
I know exactly what you're up to.
[29:04]
Yinka
I know how much money you've stolen from my mom.
[29:06]
Sharival
I'm Sharival. And together with the Scam Secrets team, we shine light on the techniques criminals are using techniques to steal your money so we can put the power back into your hands. He's wary. He spotted the red flags himself.
[29:21]
Yinka
That's really saved her from a whole lot of financial devastation.
[29:24]
Sharival
The brand new series of Scam Secrets. Listen first on BBC Sounds.