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David Krause
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Evgeny Kissin
In the end, the audience made me play as many as 13 encores until at half past midnight, firemen walked onto the stage and said, this is a municipal building. We have to close.
David Krause
You're listening to Speaking Soundly, a backstage pass to today's biggest stars of the music world. I'm your host, David Krause, principal Trumpet of the Metropolitan Opera. During each episode, you'll hear me speak with inspiring performers about their creative process and the personal journey that led them to the stage. We're very close in age, just about a month apart. Which makes it all the more striking to me that while I was just starting at Juilliard, you're already deep into a full blown international career and giving your sold out, live recorded now legendary US debut recital here at Carnegie Hall. Of course, you've performed regularly here since then. Does just walking in the backstage entrance bring you back to that monumental performance? Performance?
Evgeny Kissin
I've played at Carnegie hall dozens of times, so I cannot say that every time I am backstage I'm thinking of my very first performance here. But I remember it very well. I remember that during the first half of it I felt very nervous and played some wrong notes during the intermission. I was somehow able to hold myself together. The second half went better. Quite good in fact.
David Krause
Yeah, well, it's understandable to be a little nervous playing for a sold out Carnegie hall in your U.S. debut recital. In fact, these few missed notes led one reviewer to say that those slips only prove that you are human. On the rare occasion when you do miss a note, do you have a strategy or an ethos for shifting the focus to the task at hand?
Evgeny Kissin
I have no such strategy for during a performance. I developed one for before my performances in order for them to go well, namely to Prepare well and to just concentrate on the music totally, even before I go on stage.
David Krause
But no superstitious rituals?
Evgeny Kissin
No. I guess practicing and warming up cannot be called a ritual, right?
David Krause
Yeah. Can you recall the first time you realized your playing had a real impact on an audience?
Evgeny Kissin
I remember several occasions. I think it was sometime in 1993. I played a solo recital in Berlin, and after the program was over, the audience would not let me go and made it play eight encores. I must have prepared only four. So the rest I played from memory. And at a certain point I addressed the audience in my bad German, saying, thank you so much. You cannot imagine how happy I am. And then in April 1994, I performed in Bologna. Before the concert, I told the organizer about my Berlin experience, and the audience would not let me go either. After the fourth encore, which I had prepared in advance, I had to start playing more from memory. And the organizer backstage kept saying, we must beat Berlin. And they did. In the end, the audience made me play as many as 13 encores, until at half past midnight, firemen walked onto the stage and said, this is a municipal building, we have to close. And of course, that's when I really felt an impact of my playing on the audience.
David Krause
You grew up in Moscow to a very musical household. Your mother and sister, both pianists, and your father, though an engineer, played the accordion. I read that at 11 months you were already singing Bach, and by two you were climbing up on the piano keyboard and improvising at the piano. While you likely don't remember that far back, how do you think your family responded to this extraordinary display of musical talent?
Evgeny Kissin
They were certainly extremely surprised. Originally, they did not think that I would become a musician. My sister was studying piano, and my parents thought that I would be doing something different, and they would just let me do what I wanted to do. Sing and play by ear and improvise.
David Krause
I Wonder what a 2 year old improvising sounds like.
Evgeny Kissin
Me, I certainly don't remember what it sounded like.
David Krause
Yeah. Older siblings often set the stage for us as we grow. And I would imagine that hearing your sister practicing had a tremendous impact on you. Was there a moment or something specific in her playing that made you want to sit down at the piano yourself? When did music stop being something around you and start becoming something within you?
Evgeny Kissin
I don't even know how to separate the one from the other. If I felt like singing and then playing by ear, it means that the music had already been in me since I had an urge to reproduce it.
David Krause
As a piano teacher, Your mom must have recognized your natural talent very early on. What do you think she saw in you, and how did she guide or protect your musical path along the way?
Evgeny Kissin
Until the last moment, she did not want me to study music. Because in the school where my sister was studying, which was actually considered the best music school in Moscow and in the whole country, the atmosphere was very competitive, not only when the pupils, but also between their parents. My mother found that unhealthy, and she did not want me to experience that. In the end, I went to the other special music school in Moscow. In those two schools, music was the main subject and was taught on the top professional level. But all the other subject of the regular school curriculum were taught as well. And in the school where I went to, the atmosphere was better. My mom just hadn't been aware of it before.
David Krause
You've said that playing music has always been your greatest joy. But I'm curious. What about practicing? Did you ever resist this tedious aspect of the process of becoming a musician? Or was practicing just a further extension of your love for music and the instrument?
Evgeny Kissin
When I was a child, I did not like practicing at all. And during the first years of my music studies, I was able to achieve things without practicing much. Only later came a point when it became obvious to me that in order to play well, I had to practice a lot.
David Krause
You perform a wide range of repertoire, connecting deeply with music from all periods and all composers. But given your upbringing, do you feel a particular closeness to Russian composers? Or does your connection to music somehow transcend culture, geography, and even time?
Evgeny Kissin
Yes, Russian music has always been very close to my heart. And I assume that the fact that I grew up with that music was at least one of the important reasons for that. I assume that had I grown up in Italy, I would have felt close to the Italian opera, which I generally do not, not having grown up there. In spite of my great love for Italy and its culture in general, my love for music certainly does transcend culture, geography, and time. Music is the most international of all arts, even though lots of classical music contains national elements. And I find it wonderful because I believe in both. I believe that there should be brotherhood and peace between different nations. And. And at the same time, I think it's wonderful that there are so many different nations on our planet which have created and continue to create so many different cultures.
David Krause
You've had great success as a performer throughout your career, but you also compose music and write poetry. How does the process of creating music for others to perform differences from performing someone else's work yourself. Does composing give you a different connection to the creative process?
Evgeny Kissin
Playing music is my profession. Writing music as well as poetry and prose are my hobbies. Therefore, I devote almost all of my time to playing piano. As for writing, whether it's music or literature, I do that only sporadically, when time permits. So these are two completely different things for me. I have no illusions about the quality, the level of my writings. When I started playing piano by ear at the age of 2 years and 2 months, I began to improvise my own music. Soon afterward, and after I went to school and learned how to read music, I began to write down my own music. That continued for several years until at a certain moment, I felt that I had no more musical ideas coming to me. I stopped hearing my own music in my ears. That coincided with the moment in my life when I started giving more and more concerts. So then I decided that it was meant to be so. However, maybe 13 or so years ago, I again began to conceive ideas of my own music. Maybe that had to do with certain important developments in my personal life. Maybe that opened some hidden potential, creative potential inside me. So I started writing my own music again. I remember my third opus is a string quartet. When I wrote it, I sent it to the members of the Koppelmann Quartet, who were good friends, some of them old friends. They liked it, they played it and even decided to record it. They recorded it in a small place in Wales. I went there for the recording sessions with my wife. And I remember how while we were working, the musicians were playing and I was making comments. At a certain moment I felt something and immediately shared my feelings with my wife. I said to her, you know, I have dubious feelings now. On the one hand, it's really exciting to hear my own music being played and even recorded. But on the other hand, I'm hearing my own music now and thinking. But compared to Chophear, it's such a shame. About one week ago, I listened to a recording of the very last piece I wrote. It is a piano trio about the current war in Ukraine. And then I said to my wife, remember what I said to you when our friends from the Kotlman Quartet were recording? Mike washed it. But now, listening to my own trio, I feel that I am actually liking it. But again, of course, I know, but it cannot be compared to Shostakovich's, Tchaikovsky's or Beethoven's Trio. I'm perfectly aware of that. In fact, after I wrote what became my very first opus, Four Pieces for Piano Solo, I showed them to our Pat. And I said to him, please tell me absolutely honestly, do you think I should continue doing this, writing music or not? And he said, you definitely should. So I continued and some people like it and want to perform it, which of course I'm very happy about. As for literature, again, of course I have no illusions. I'm perfectly aware I'm not and shall never become a great poet.
David Krause
In your memoir, which was published in 2018, you recall writing your last will and testament. As a child, you had specific instructions on what your gravestone was to read. Here lies Evgeny Kissin, a servant of music. On the one hand, it seems pretty dark for a kid to imagine their own gravestone, but on the other it reflects a deep and early connection to music as your life's purpose. What was it about music, do you think, that gave you such a strong sense of identity back then and now, as you reflect on it? What has a life dedicated in music given to you?
Evgeny Kissin
Regarding the first question, I honestly do not know. No one cannot explain love, and to tell you honestly, I'm very happy that one cannot explain it because I personally would like to such things as love to retain their mystery. Even if one day scientists are able to explain it, and I'm sure they will one day, I'm not sure if I'll want to learn about it. As for your second question, one cannot be an artist without love for art, and therefore I believe that I'm a very lucky person. My life is devoted to what I love. In this respect, we musicians are much luckier than most people on our planet.
David Krause
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Speaking Soundly: An In-Depth Conversation with Evgeny Kissin
Episode Title: Evgeny Kissin
Host: David Krause, Principal Trumpet of the Metropolitan Opera
Release Date: May 13, 2025
In this compelling episode of Speaking Soundly, host David Krause engages in a profound dialogue with the esteemed Grammy Award-winning pianist, Evgeny Kissin. The conversation delves into Kissin's illustrious career, his creative processes, personal journey, and his deep-rooted connection to music.
Evgeny Kissin hails from a highly musical Moscow household. His mother and sister were both pianists, while his father, an engineer by profession, played the accordion. Kissin's extraordinary musical abilities surfaced remarkably early:
Early Talent: At just 11 months old, Kissin was already singing Bach. By the age of two, he was climbing onto the piano keyboard, improvising melodies.
"I have no such strategy for during a performance. I developed one for before my performances in order for them to go well, namely to prepare well and to just concentrate on the music totally, even before I go on stage."
— Evgeny Kissin, [03:08]
Despite these prodigious talents, Kissin does not recall these early years. His family, particularly his mother, did not initially anticipate a musical career for him. While his sister pursued formal piano studies at a prestigious Moscow music school, Kissin attended a different special music school that offered a balanced curriculum in both music and regular academic subjects. This environment fostered his musical growth while maintaining a healthier, less competitive atmosphere.
Kissin's relationship with Carnegie Hall is storied and significant. His U.S. debut recital there became legendary, showcasing not only his technical prowess but also his profound connection with audiences.
Memorable Performances: In [00:58], Kissin recounts playing up to 13 encores during his Bologna performance, culminating in the fire department's intervention to close the municipal building.
"In the end, the audience made me play as many as 13 encores until at half past midnight, firemen walked onto the stage and said, this is a municipal building. We have to close."
— Evgeny Kissin, [00:58]
These experiences solidified his reputation as a performer who deeply resonates with his audience, transcending mere applause to create unforgettable musical moments.
Kissin emphasizes a disciplined approach to performance, focusing on preparation and concentration rather than relying on specific strategies during concerts.
Performance Strategy: Kissin avoids superstitious rituals, instead prioritizing thorough preparation and mental focus.
"I have no such strategy for during a performance. I developed one for before my performances in order for them to go well, namely to prepare well and to just concentrate on the music totally, even before I go on stage."
— Evgeny Kissin, [03:08]
Practice Habits: Initially, Kissin did not enjoy practicing, but as his career progressed, he recognized the necessity of diligent practice to achieve excellence.
"When I was a child, I did not like practicing at all. And during the first years of my music studies, I was able to achieve things without practicing much. Only later came a point when it became obvious to me that in order to play well, I had to practice a lot."
— Evgeny Kissin, [08:54]
Growing up immersed in Russian music, Kissin maintains a special affinity for it, although his love for music transcends cultural and geographical boundaries.
Cultural Influence: Russian composers hold a special place in his heart, stemming from his upbringing. However, he acknowledges the universal nature of music, appreciating its ability to bridge diverse cultures.
"Yes, Russian music has always been very close to my heart. And I assume that the fact that I grew up with that music was at least one of the important reasons for that."
— Evgeny Kissin, [09:37]
"Music is the most international of all arts, even though lots of classical music contains national elements. And I find it wonderful because I believe in both."
— Evgeny Kissin, [09:37]
While predominantly known for his performances, Kissin also explores composing and writing poetry, albeit as hobbies rather than professional pursuits.
Creative Process: Kissin discusses his sporadic engagement with composition, highlighting the challenges and personal reflections it brings.
"Playing music is my profession. Writing music as well as poetry and prose are my hobbies. Therefore, I devote almost all of my time to playing piano."
— Evgeny Kissin, [11:18]
Personal Compositions: He shares insights into his compositional ventures, including his string quartet and a piano trio inspired by the war in Ukraine.
"When I wrote it, I sent it to the members of the Koppelmann Quartet, who were good friends... I listened to a recording of the very last piece I wrote. It is a piano trio about the current war in Ukraine."
— Evgeny Kissin, [11:18]
Despite his modesty regarding his compositional skills, Kissin finds personal fulfillment in creating music, acknowledging its complexity and the high standards set by classical masters.
Kissin's deep-seated connection to music is evident in his personal reflections and memoir. He shares poignant insights about his identity and the role of music in his life.
Life’s Purpose: As a child, Kissin inscribed his gravestone with the words, "Here lies Evgeny Kissin, a servant of music," reflecting his early and enduring commitment to his art.
"I'm very happy that one cannot explain it because I personally would like such things as love to retain their mystery."
— Evgeny Kissin, [16:26]
"One cannot be an artist without love for art, and therefore I believe that I'm a very lucky person. My life is devoted to what I love."
— Evgeny Kissin, [16:26]
His memoir reveals a lifelong dedication to music, portraying it as both his identity and his greatest joy.
This episode of Speaking Soundly offers a rich and intimate portrait of Evgeny Kissin, exploring his journey from a musically gifted child in Moscow to an internationally acclaimed pianist. Through heartfelt discussions, Kissin shares his philosophies on music, performance, and creativity, providing listeners with valuable insights into the life of one of today's most revered classical musicians.
Notable Quotes:
"In the end, the audience made me play as many as 13 encores until at half past midnight, firemen walked onto the stage and said, this is a municipal building. We have to close."
— Evgeny Kissin ([00:58])
"I have no such strategy for during a performance. I developed one for before my performances in order for them to go well, namely to prepare well and to just concentrate on the music totally, even before I go on stage."
— Evgeny Kissin ([03:08])
"Yes, Russian music has always been very close to my heart. And I assume that the fact that I grew up with that music was at least one of the important reasons for that."
— Evgeny Kissin ([09:37])
"Playing music is my profession. Writing music as well as poetry and prose are my hobbies. Therefore, I devote almost all of my time to playing piano."
— Evgeny Kissin ([11:18])
"One cannot be an artist without love for art, and therefore I believe that I'm a very lucky person. My life is devoted to what I love."
— Evgeny Kissin ([16:26])
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the essence of the conversation between David Krause and Evgeny Kissin, highlighting the pianist's remarkable journey, his philosophical approach to music, and his continuous quest for artistic fulfillment.